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<v Speaker 1>So here, I sit in San Francisco Bay Area, California.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm over in the East Bay of the Bay if

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<v Speaker 1>you're familiar with this waterway, the Peninsula and so forth

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<v Speaker 1>of the Bay Area. I'm in north of Berkeley. And

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<v Speaker 1>I have to tell you there's some great news, fantastic

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<v Speaker 1>news that the powers would be probably are unhappy about,

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<v Speaker 1>and that is this new scanning technology. You got, the stars,

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<v Speaker 1>you got, you got all kinds of new satellite directed

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<v Speaker 1>coverage scanning. You have amazing results coming out. And what

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<v Speaker 1>is the beauty of this whole thing is that the authorities,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm poking fun at the Egyptians because they drive

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<v Speaker 1>me nets, they can't do anything about it. They cannot

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<v Speaker 1>do anything about it. If you heard the interview with

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<v Speaker 1>man who says today Robert Schock and Trevor Grassi, man

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<v Speaker 1>who was discussing a someone, I guess it's a law

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<v Speaker 1>that if you're scanning at such a distance like miles

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<v Speaker 1>above the atmosphere, it's free for anyone who wants to

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<v Speaker 1>analyze the data. And this is what's this happening with

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<v Speaker 1>this scanning of the Caffrey and Cufu pyramid at the

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<v Speaker 1>bewilderment of the authorities in Egypt. And I have to

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<v Speaker 1>tell you, if you saw the interview with Joe Rogan

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<v Speaker 1>and Zahi Hawas, you have to wonder to yourself, this

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<v Speaker 1>is the head of the Egyptological community, Zahi Hawas. He

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't the guy is Oh my god, he's a clown.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm not going to get into any more personality

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<v Speaker 1>assassination because it's so easy for me to go there.

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<v Speaker 1>But he's a product of that country. The country is

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<v Speaker 1>just in turmoil, educational, political, economical, they are in turmoil,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's a result of that. Now Mark Lerner, who's

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<v Speaker 1>an American, is also a head figure in the Egyptological community,

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<v Speaker 1>but he's less vocal than Zahil was. And if you

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<v Speaker 1>saw that interview, Zahi is scary. He needs to retire.

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<v Speaker 1>He needs to retire now. In fact, I think Rogan

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<v Speaker 1>said yesterday on his program that it is the singular

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<v Speaker 1>worst worst interview he has ever done. And we're talking

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<v Speaker 1>thousands upon thousands of interviews. And if that's bad, that

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<v Speaker 1>tells you a lot. And there's a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>who are making excuses for Zahi's behavior, for Zahi's lack

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<v Speaker 1>of education and lack of knowledge. This is the This

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<v Speaker 1>is just just the nature of this academic guy, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's just the way he is. That's the

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<v Speaker 1>way he rolls. He only wants to remember certain things

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<v Speaker 1>and he wants it to be his point of view.

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<v Speaker 1>And if it's not, if it does he doesn't know

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<v Speaker 1>about it, then it doesn't make any sense. So these

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<v Speaker 1>scans he immediately invalidated. And this is gonna This is

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<v Speaker 1>this is important. This is important. Now we have just

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<v Speaker 1>fallen upon some new data in the southern part of Egypt,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is the Hawara Labyrinth, known as the Hawara

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<v Speaker 1>Pyramid Labyrinth because it's part of the pyramid. I have

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned that I have published these images, these scans that

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<v Speaker 1>were taken ten years ago, and they are now becoming relevant.

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<v Speaker 1>And we're going to find out in a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>weeks with a three part panel of experts, including the

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<v Speaker 1>technician who took the data from satellite and processed it. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest problem we have is we can go ahead

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<v Speaker 1>and we can take the photograph, we can take the scan,

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<v Speaker 1>process it and get the data. Getting at it is

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<v Speaker 1>a huge problem. Are we ever going to get it

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<v Speaker 1>to Cufu and Caffrey Pyramids and the Giza Plateau to

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<v Speaker 1>see if these underground phenomenon are readily available. It's very

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<v Speaker 1>doubtful when it comes to Hawara Labyrinth. Will we ever

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<v Speaker 1>get a chance to dig? Probably for a price, and

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<v Speaker 1>I should say that for probably for a price. In

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<v Speaker 1>Egypt you could probably get it. Money speaks very very

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<v Speaker 1>loudly there. Unfortunately, unfortunately, and this is what the trend

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<v Speaker 1>is right now, which is very very problematic for me.

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<v Speaker 1>When you sign on to do a scan, they have

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<v Speaker 1>the rights and restrictions to edit the data that comes

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<v Speaker 1>in as released. Here's where the problem is. So good

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<v Speaker 1>scientific method is you get one out of you get one, two, three,

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<v Speaker 1>four or five verifications of a scan. So in other words,

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<v Speaker 1>we get the scan of the Caffree Pyramid and then

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<v Speaker 1>we have somebody else start digging or use ground penny

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<v Speaker 1>training radar. There's where the problem is. And this is

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<v Speaker 1>where we deal with problem. We deal with education, We

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<v Speaker 1>deal with religious fundamentalism. And I'm sprinkling that right now

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<v Speaker 1>because Egypt is now run is it's falling, it's falling behind.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's probably, oh God, a couple of decades

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<v Speaker 1>behind the times. I like to say twenty, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>probably more like fifty years. It's really really said, great

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<v Speaker 1>to visit, amazing the visit, but damn it, we want

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<v Speaker 1>to know what's going on. We want to see these

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<v Speaker 1>anomalies that Chris Dunn talks about, that Robert Schock talks about,

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<v Speaker 1>that Graham Hancock talks about that, everybody on this show

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<v Speaker 1>talks about, and this Hawara Labyrinth that Herodotus wrote about.

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<v Speaker 1>We want to see this thing. We want to get

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<v Speaker 1>in there. We want to see these columns, we want

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<v Speaker 1>to see these rooms, we want to see the details. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>we got to go through a government that's decades behind

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<v Speaker 1>the times. So how's that going to work out? The

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<v Speaker 1>only way it's going to work out is for Elon

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<v Speaker 1>Musk to donate some money. We need some billionaires to

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<v Speaker 1>step up. If you're listening and you have some serious money,

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<v Speaker 1>catch us in two weeks when we do this Hawara

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<v Speaker 1>Labyrinth special program. It's going to be a special edition

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<v Speaker 1>with XS and we're going to see exactly and here

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<v Speaker 1>exactly what they have discovered, what their next steps are,

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<v Speaker 1>and then we'll probably develop a growth fundme program that

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<v Speaker 1>allows a group of experts, including scientists and filled archaeologists

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<v Speaker 1>to go there with permission with Antiquities Department Egyptian Antiquities

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<v Speaker 1>Department oversight to see what's there, to see if it's true.

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<v Speaker 1>This is one of the great wonders of the world

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<v Speaker 1>that has been talked about and was. I mean, most

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<v Speaker 1>people thought it was a myth. Most people thought that

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<v Speaker 1>Herodotus was on you know, mushrooms or something. We don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what Petrie talks about it. Petrie saw parts of

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<v Speaker 1>it the Father of Egyptology, but we haven't heard much

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<v Speaker 1>after that. So this is going to be a very

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<v Speaker 1>very important program that I hope you can join us with.

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<v Speaker 1>In a couple of weeks, we'll get into more detail,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's going to be a special edition of Earth Agents,

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<v Speaker 1>which means that it'll probably be posted in the middle

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<v Speaker 1>of the week, so stay tuned for that. But hey,

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<v Speaker 1>the point I'm trying to make is this new technology

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<v Speaker 1>is wonderful. It takes the burden out of orthodoxy and

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<v Speaker 1>places it on the independent researcher, who in many cases

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<v Speaker 1>has better equipment, better ability to process it quickly and

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<v Speaker 1>get it out. So look forward to that, all right.

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<v Speaker 1>Today's program is with Christopher Knight. He is a research

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<v Speaker 1>investigator and he wrote a book that just came out

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<v Speaker 1>called They Built the Earth. It's a real detailed, fundamental

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<v Speaker 1>look at not only ancient civilizations on Earth, but also

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<v Speaker 1>what is known as the Megalithic Yard that was first

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<v Speaker 1>coined by doctor or professor Alex Alexander Tom. And we've

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<v Speaker 1>talked about doctor Tom, who was a brilliant British scientist.

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<v Speaker 1>He was actually an engineer who was studying these megalists

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<v Speaker 1>around England and came across this discovery of the megalithic Yard,

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<v Speaker 1>which we will talk about today. So we are also

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<v Speaker 1>going to present some interesting details on pantspermia, and we

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<v Speaker 1>have talked about pantspermia seeding the Earth with microbes for

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<v Speaker 1>a number of years. We've had Chandra, doctor Chandrowick Ramsey

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<v Speaker 1>on the program. We've had doctor Wainwright talking about spores.

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<v Speaker 1>And by the way, if you're listening to this podcast

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<v Speaker 1>ramseying and listen to those podcasts because they give fantastic

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<v Speaker 1>updates and details on how our evolution may be processed

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<v Speaker 1>or proceeding through the viruses that we are inflicted with,

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<v Speaker 1>including COVID. So something to think about. So today's program

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<v Speaker 1>is They Built the Earth and my guest is Christopher Knight. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>to Mexico, but it's pretty much hands off on climbing,

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<v Speaker 1>on interacting with the temples and the pyramids. I love pyramids.

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<v Speaker 1>past and the energetics that were part of the Mayan culture. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>slash tours. This is not to be missed. There's always

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<v Speaker 1>a big question. We've talked to doctor Chandra wick Ramsey

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<v Speaker 1>on pan spermia. We've talked about theories on our creation, humankind,

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<v Speaker 1>the hominin known as Homo sapien sapien? Are we an accident?

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<v Speaker 1>Are we a creation of some advanced race? And this

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<v Speaker 1>has been a question now that we've pondered over for

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<v Speaker 1>the last many many years. Today my guest is Christopher Knight.

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<v Speaker 1>He and his co author Alan Butler have written a

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<v Speaker 1>book called the They built the Earth then seated life

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<v Speaker 1>three point seven billion years ago and then the second

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<v Speaker 1>line is it's time to unlock the message they left,

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<v Speaker 1>which is a fascinating title for the book we're presenting today.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is a look at a hypothesis that is

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<v Speaker 1>fairly radical but also has a place in our understanding

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<v Speaker 1>of the past. So, hey, Chris, welcome to Earth Ancient.

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<v Speaker 1>It's great to have you on the program.

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<v Speaker 2>Good to be worthy clips. Yeah, give us a.

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<v Speaker 1>Sense of what you and Alan I should say how

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<v Speaker 1>you started, because this is a big question. What would

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<v Speaker 1>be a sense of starting for you on this.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we had no interest in the subject matter. We

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<v Speaker 2>didn't set out to prove a theory or a hypothesis

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<v Speaker 2>that we've got at all. In fact, we've spent many

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<v Speaker 2>years working together researching megalithic metrology, that is unix of

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<v Speaker 2>measurement used in the Late Stone Age, which are for

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<v Speaker 2>sure that they cover units of length, time, capacity, weight

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<v Speaker 2>to everything, and it doesn't sort of make sense in

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<v Speaker 2>the standard history, but it's provably there. But we were

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<v Speaker 2>continuing our researchers in this area and I can't remember how,

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<v Speaker 2>but we suddenly found that it works for the Earth.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a geodetic system. It's based on these units come

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<v Speaker 2>from the physical nature of the Earth. But they also

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<v Speaker 2>worked for the Moon in every complete detail with great accuracy,

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<v Speaker 2>but nowhere else in the Solar system. You know, Alan

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<v Speaker 2>and I scratched our heads, thought, this is just crazy,

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<v Speaker 2>sure it's not a natural object, And we spent the

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<v Speaker 2>it by accident. Basically, that's all I can say. Once

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's funny that you bring up this megalithic yard,

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<v Speaker 1>because I've studied the work of Professor Tom and he

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<v Speaker 1>when he started discussing this megalithic yard, he was summarily

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<v Speaker 2>I guess absolutely they.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, very briefly, Alexander Tom was a renowned engineer. He

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<v Speaker 2>by birth. He spent half a century surveying ancient megal

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<v Speaker 2>ethic sites and doing a detailed engineering assessment of them.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's like he said, no good being an archaeologists

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<v Speaker 2>It's a wrong mindset because archaeologists are very good to

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<v Speaker 2>get up bits of pottery and the Old Bono two,

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<v Speaker 2>but they useless when it comes to math. So I've

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<v Speaker 2>and they criticized Tom because they basically don't understand it.

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<v Speaker 2>They feel threatened. So he said, well, the archaeologist said,

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<v Speaker 2>how could they have done that? And he said, it's

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<v Speaker 2>know that they did do it because the evidence is overwhelming.

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<v Speaker 2>So Alan and I set out many moons ago to

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<v Speaker 2>try and work out how they did do it, which

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<v Speaker 2>we've succeeded in doing. Alexander Tom's closest friend, professor of

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<v Speaker 2>astronomy at Gladsbourg University, joined him with us and said,

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<v Speaker 2>how what a breakthrough it was. He said, if only

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<v Speaker 2>Sandy at Alexander Tom was still alive, he would love this.

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<v Speaker 2>And we've had other leading academics from other spheres, engineers

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<v Speaker 2>both subjects from Canada checking our work and checking Tom's work,

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<v Speaker 2>and they said both are correct. Tom was right, and

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<v Speaker 2>Alan Butler and I write in working out how they

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<v Speaker 2>did it, but then we accidentally find that it applies

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<v Speaker 2>to the moment, then yeah, where do you go next?

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<v Speaker 2>It was a jult to put it mildly for us

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<v Speaker 2>because we you know, we're interested in the pyramids and things,

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<v Speaker 2>because we were finding this. Megworthic units are used here

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<v Speaker 2>in England a thousand years before the pyramids were built,

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<v Speaker 2>but they were the layout of the pyramids Guze applied

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<v Speaker 2>to our pyramids that is identical, but much smaller than

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<v Speaker 2>structures that they build a thousand years earlier in England,

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<v Speaker 2>not in terms of mats or height, but in ground area.

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<v Speaker 2>And they both followed exactly the same rules of Orion's

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<v Speaker 2>Belt using megalithic units. So something huge was going on.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you expect, Chris, that the you say four thousand

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<v Speaker 1>years ago was the inception, but it really feels to

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<v Speaker 1>me that it's much much older than that, simply because

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<v Speaker 1>it's a very sophisticated way of measuring large, large bodies.

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<v Speaker 2>What has become clear, and we're talking about over five

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<v Speaker 2>thousand years ago, but what is clear is that they

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<v Speaker 2>were using something they were sort of resurrecting something that

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<v Speaker 2>had existed long before them. They were using their technology

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<v Speaker 2>to recreate something that had been in place way way

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<v Speaker 2>before that, and they couldn't have originated it, but they

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<v Speaker 2>worked out how to recreate it. So we've been pushed

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<v Speaker 2>back in time passively. There really is. I have to

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<v Speaker 2>say I was a pretty conventional thinker until this happened

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<v Speaker 2>to us. You know, I was quite happy to believe

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<v Speaker 2>the standard textbooks. But not anymore. When you've got the

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<v Speaker 2>massive masses of information and you look at the data coolly,

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<v Speaker 2>you've got to say something seriously weird has been going

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<v Speaker 2>on here.

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<v Speaker 1>Talk about the weirdness for a minute. I mean, you

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<v Speaker 1>said the megalithic yard is used for measuring what planets.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course you're also referring to your homeland, which is

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<v Speaker 1>places like a Stonehenge and Averaberry and these other megalithic

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<v Speaker 1>sites measuring those structures. But why is the megalithic yard

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<v Speaker 1>so impressive?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's impressive for all sorts of brieges. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I could be washed up on a desertaland with nothing,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the closest stand up in and I could,

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<v Speaker 2>just by gathering materials, I could work out to nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>nine nine percent accuracy the leader, the pound, the ounce,

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<v Speaker 2>the mile, the key, the kilometer, the leads and the

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<v Speaker 2>pint anything you want, because I understand the rules underpin

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<v Speaker 2>it or and it all comes from astronomy. But these

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<v Speaker 2>these ancient engineers couldn't have originated it's anymore from the

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<v Speaker 2>Greeks originated the work that they did, because when they

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<v Speaker 2>first measured the circumference of the Earth, it was an

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<v Speaker 2>exact number of Greek feet. That's because the Greek foot

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<v Speaker 2>was created as a subset of the Earth in the

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<v Speaker 2>first place, so they were reverse engineering it. And the

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<v Speaker 2>same is true for the megalithic yard. I mean, the

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<v Speaker 2>situation is that on the Earth there are three hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and sixty work three hundred and sixty six degrees to

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<v Speaker 2>a circle. So because there are three hundred and sixty

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<v Speaker 2>six turns of the Earth in the year, it feels

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<v Speaker 2>like three and sixty five because one gets wound off

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<v Speaker 2>with our orbit around the Sun. But it is three

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and sixty six if you look at any star.

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<v Speaker 2>So the pin number, if you like, is three sixty six.

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<v Speaker 2>And they divided the Earth into three sixty six, and

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<v Speaker 2>then they sub divided again and again until they get

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<v Speaker 2>three hundred and sixty six megalithic yards, who are second

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<v Speaker 2>of arc in the polar circumference. So, as I said, Camel,

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<v Speaker 2>what made us do it? That we found on the moon?

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<v Speaker 2>It's exactly one hundred, one hundred to a tiny exectitude.

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<v Speaker 2>And of course there's lots sub strange things about the Moon.

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<v Speaker 2>We know, for example, that it is exactly one four

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<v Speaker 2>hundredth of the distance between us the Earth surface of

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<v Speaker 2>the Earth and the Sun, and that it is four

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<v Speaker 2>hundred times smaller. So because of that four hundred and

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<v Speaker 2>four hundred we get this remarkable thing older than eclipse,

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<v Speaker 2>which we take for granted because it happens, but it

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't happen anywhere else that we've ever not even vaguely

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<v Speaker 2>on any of the planet. And it's such a round number,

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<v Speaker 2>four hundred, four hundred, And then you get the one hundred.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe they go on that's the second about And then

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<v Speaker 2>you find all the numbers in the moon of the Earth.

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<v Speaker 2>And then we found that one other place as well,

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<v Speaker 2>that was connected out in the asteroid belt. And they

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<v Speaker 2>are playing the same numbers, repeating them, repeating, repeating them

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<v Speaker 2>because they want to communicate these numbers. And we believe

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<v Speaker 2>we know why these numbers are important, But clearly these

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<v Speaker 2>were there billions of years ago these relationships. So I said,

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<v Speaker 2>we're talking about something weird. It's weird and extreme, but

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<v Speaker 2>you can't escape it because stats is merciless, you know

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<v Speaker 2>when you look at the that you can't escape. But

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<v Speaker 2>the chances of these patterns emerging by accidents our zero,

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<v Speaker 2>absolute zero.

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<v Speaker 1>Talk real briefly, then we'll move on. What did Alexander

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<v Speaker 1>tom I mean, he termed it the megalithic yard, But

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<v Speaker 1>did he see it across different cultures, the Egyptians, the Sumerians?

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<v Speaker 2>No, because he only I say only he surveyed so

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<v Speaker 2>many sites, but across the British Isles, England, Scotland, Wales

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<v Speaker 2>and parts of France like Brittainy, which was has very

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<v Speaker 2>similar sorts of structures, and he analyzed those very carefully.

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<v Speaker 2>But he didn't He wasn't trying to be an archaeologist

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<v Speaker 2>story his story, and he wasn't trying to find anything

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<v Speaker 2>other than proving that these measurements were used. Subsequently, Alan

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<v Speaker 2>Butler and I have done exactly that, looked at what

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<v Speaker 2>the Samarians were doing and the Egyptians were doing, and

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<v Speaker 2>without shadow with doubt, they were using the same techniques

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<v Speaker 2>and adopting them to their own requirements, and we're still

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<v Speaker 2>use today, of course, the Sumerian timekeeping system, which is

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<v Speaker 2>based on sixties and tens in the minutes and seconds

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<v Speaker 2>and minutes in an hour, and seconds in a minute,

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<v Speaker 2>et cetera. Sixty and the greasiness circles meant is three

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and sixty, because the Sabarians changed the three sixty

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<v Speaker 2>six to the three hundred and sixty because it was

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<v Speaker 2>easier to manipulate. Once they'd invented mathematics. They knew it

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<v Speaker 2>was wrong, but they had ways of correcting for that error.

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<v Speaker 2>It was just easier to use in the first base.

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<v Speaker 2>And it likewise the Egyptians, when you find that the

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<v Speaker 2>Great Pyramid, for example, has has got so he's said

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<v Speaker 2>to exhibit the existence of pie, Well it does, and

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<v Speaker 2>the reason is that they use their trundle wheel with

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<v Speaker 2>a circumference of one megalithic yard. He's still doing twenty

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<v Speaker 2>along each side. And then they use the diameter to

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<v Speaker 2>measure the height they call that royal cubit to measure

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<v Speaker 2>the height, and you automatically get pie because you've used

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<v Speaker 2>the circumference for one purpose and the diameter for the other.

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<v Speaker 2>So of course it exhibits pie but they use the

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<v Speaker 2>megal ethic yard, that's for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>It seems like it's a real organic mathematical system that

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<v Speaker 1>we're not using anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>Well we are, are we?

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<v Speaker 1>So is it? Is it geometry?

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<v Speaker 2>Is that?

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<v Speaker 1>Well?

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<v Speaker 2>No, Every units of the imperial system, the ones that

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<v Speaker 2>are still us and the ones that have gone out

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<v Speaker 2>of use, bushels and so forth, come from this, and

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<v Speaker 2>so do the metric system. They're both descended from it,

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<v Speaker 2>if you like, they're always connected.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so it's like the foundation for what we're using today.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean an Italian team of investigators at the

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<v Speaker 2>University in Italy wrote, how is it? Why does a

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<v Speaker 2>meet along pendulum beat at once a second work it out? Well,

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<v Speaker 2>that's a really strange coincidence. On it's not a coincidence.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what it comes from.

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<v Speaker 1>They use pendulance, and so it's really a sacred science

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<v Speaker 1>that we've we just accept now. It's been handed down

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<v Speaker 1>from the Greeks.

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<v Speaker 2>The Greeks were very good gatherers of knowledge, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like the Larbie Alexandria, which is basically a Greek structure

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<v Speaker 2>Alexander it is helping Macedonian. They were great reinventors. They

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<v Speaker 2>they cataloged things, and they searched, and they did a

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<v Speaker 2>great job. But they didn't They weren't necessarily very original.

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<v Speaker 2>They were bringing together ancient knowledge that they didn't fully understand.

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<v Speaker 2>As I suspect the main with the people before then,

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<v Speaker 2>God knows where they got it from. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>So your hypothesis is that Earth and its companion, the

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<v Speaker 1>Moon are engineered from an advanced race. What are the

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<v Speaker 1>signs of advanced engineering. Let's start with the Moon.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's hard to take you in isolation, but the

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<v Speaker 2>Moon is the most unlikely object. As I say, it's

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<v Speaker 2>in this strange position when viewed from the surface of

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<v Speaker 2>the Earth a human perspective is four hundred and four

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<v Speaker 2>hundred relationship. It's got an incredibly low mass. Some people

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<v Speaker 2>say it's hollow, which isn't quite accurate. But it's center

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<v Speaker 2>of gravity is not in the middle where you would expect.

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<v Speaker 2>That's progonomical logic. It has these mas goons around the

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<v Speaker 2>outside seven areas where there is concentrations of gravity, which

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<v Speaker 2>causes habit for spacecraft when they get to the Moon.

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<v Speaker 2>There is nothing natural about the Moon, and one week

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<v Speaker 2>Alan Butler and I wrote who Built the Moon? We

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<v Speaker 2>took apart the idea that it was created because we

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<v Speaker 2>know it's largely built a material taken from the Earth

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<v Speaker 2>plus other material, and there was a theory that MOUs

424
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<v Speaker 2>size object it there had been this gigantic event throwing

425
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<v Speaker 2>off all this material that's then coalesced into the Moon.

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<v Speaker 2>But everyone sort of knew that didn't work for all

427
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<v Speaker 2>sorts of reasons. It wouldn't spin, it wouldn't be where

428
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<v Speaker 2>it is, It didn't work at all. So I suggested

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<v Speaker 2>it had been hit many times in a constructed way

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<v Speaker 2>to sort of hammer out the Earth and to deliberately

431
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<v Speaker 2>manufacture the Moon. And since we wrote Who Built the Moon?

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<v Speaker 2>An Israeli team have come forward and have demonstrated that

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<v Speaker 2>exactly is the case. Yeah, and which is now accepted.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it's clean. There is nothing in this book

435
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<v Speaker 2>that isn't. All the core material is fully accepted by

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<v Speaker 2>various disciplines of science. They just don't put it together.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, there's there's no one putting the pieces together.

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<v Speaker 2>If this is true, this is true, this is true,

439
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<v Speaker 2>You'll say it is, this has to be true.

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<v Speaker 1>But let me just stab you for a minute, Chris,

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<v Speaker 1>Because the What you're saying, though, is that this is

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<v Speaker 1>a direct panspermia kind of event, where it's it's intelligently

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<v Speaker 1>designed by some super race to Okay, talk about that

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<v Speaker 1>for a minute. Yeah, you use pan spermia throughout the book.

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<v Speaker 2>Francis Crick, the guy that was one of the discoverers

446
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<v Speaker 2>of the double helix of DNA. Twenty years after doing that,

447
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<v Speaker 2>he came up with the idea of directed pant spermia

448
00:32:46.920 --> 00:32:49.240
<v Speaker 2>and then supporting about people out of count Sagan and

449
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<v Speaker 2>various other's and increasingly it's more and more supportive because

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<v Speaker 2>it's ultily impossible to any only scientist to say that

451
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<v Speaker 2>it happened by accident, the idea that you know, lightning

452
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<v Speaker 2>bolt struck the old primeval soup and life just came

453
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<v Speaker 2>into existence. That is provably nonsense. So respectable scientists talk

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<v Speaker 2>about pantspermia i e. Bacteria or some DNA life form

455
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<v Speaker 2>coming from out of space, But directed pant supermia is

456
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<v Speaker 2>suggested that it was targeted at us. Now, if you

457
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<v Speaker 2>think about it, anyone thinks about it. Logically, if you

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<v Speaker 2>were going to plant life on Earth, you wouldn't just

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<v Speaker 2>scatter it any Olhow on a happy you know likely

460
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<v Speaker 2>looking planet, you'd engineer it to be a an incubation unit.

461
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<v Speaker 2>You'd make sure, like any decent farmer, you'd make sure

462
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<v Speaker 2>the soul was right, it was right, the weeds weren't there,

463
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<v Speaker 2>that the threats weren't there, all of that stuff, which

464
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<v Speaker 2>is what they did, and they created. The Earth has

465
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<v Speaker 2>got liquid water on it all the time these days.

466
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<v Speaker 2>In the past it has been frozen, but that's one

467
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<v Speaker 2>ten thousands of the range for temperatures throughout our Solar system.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just the Goldenlock zone isn't in it. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>it is amazing. And if the Moon wasn't exactly where

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<v Speaker 2>it was originally, which was much closer in, and if

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<v Speaker 2>it hadn't moved out exactly as it is, we wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>be here to talk about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because of the gravitational polls and it kind of

474
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<v Speaker 1>helps Earth support life, is what you suggest.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, the whole thing has been a precision job of

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<v Speaker 2>from the first DNA, which hasn't evolved because all of

477
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<v Speaker 2>the information was in the original DNA and it's been

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<v Speaker 2>allowed to unpack it over three point seven billion years

479
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<v Speaker 2>to us. But it could not have had by accident,

480
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<v Speaker 2>as scientists say, you know, if every molecule, every particle

481
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<v Speaker 2>in the universe, the entire universe, had one chance for

482
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<v Speaker 2>every second it's been in existence turnity DNA, there still

483
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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't be any DNA. The odds that beyond this can't

484
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<v Speaker 2>be measured. It could not have happened by accident. It

485
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<v Speaker 2>was done deliberately. And once you are brave enough, as

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<v Speaker 2>Francis Crick and Carl Sagan and others have been brave

487
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<v Speaker 2>enough to say, let's face it, and you get people

488
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<v Speaker 2>overturning the whole life's work who are brave enough to say,

489
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<v Speaker 2>I've got to say, you know, I'm in my eighties now,

490
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<v Speaker 2>but everything I thought is wrong because there's no zero

491
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<v Speaker 2>zero old chance of life starting on its own. It

492
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<v Speaker 2>just isn't an option. So you can only get on

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<v Speaker 2>with serious, the serious debates once you bite the bullet

494
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<v Speaker 2>and say that paradigm is nonsense. Clear the decks. Let's

495
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<v Speaker 2>talk about what's real instead of this sort of Basically,

496
00:36:22.239 --> 00:36:27.880
<v Speaker 2>the old idea of lightning strikes with the primordial soupers

497
00:36:28.360 --> 00:36:31.159
<v Speaker 2>is no better or worse than the book of Janeesips.

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<v Speaker 2>What is it.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to take a short commercial break to allow

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<v Speaker 1>our sponsors to identify themselves, and we will return shortly

501
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<v Speaker 1>with my guest today, Christopher Knight, discussing his new book,

502
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<v Speaker 1>They Built the Earth. Will be right back. My guest

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<v Speaker 1>today is Christopher Knight. He's written a new book called

504
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<v Speaker 1>They Built the Earth, and we're discussing the details of

505
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<v Speaker 1>his theory on our ancient planet. I mean, the thing

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<v Speaker 1>that I'm trying to understand, and you hint on it

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<v Speaker 1>on the book, is what are what's the signatures of

508
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<v Speaker 1>a technology involved in this? I mean, if we're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about billions of years ago, this must be a culture

510
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<v Speaker 1>that is we can't barely we could barely conceive of

511
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<v Speaker 1>it being able to create a planet, being able to

512
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<v Speaker 1>make it inhabitable for hominiss, for creatures to live. And

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it's just mind blowing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes it is, But a lot of what we do

515
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<v Speaker 2>today would have been mind blowing, you know, to people

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<v Speaker 2>four hundred years ago, years ago, whatever. You know, we

517
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<v Speaker 2>can do things that are just beyond all reason. So

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<v Speaker 2>the fact it seems remarkable doesn't make any difference. It

519
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<v Speaker 2>clearly it's like elegant Tom He's saying, I can't explain

520
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<v Speaker 2>the megalathic yard, I'm just telling you it's there. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so we just need that sort of clarity. Think, let's

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<v Speaker 2>not cloud the issue and saying we can't allow things

523
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<v Speaker 2>unless we can explain them. Yeah, the fact is it

524
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<v Speaker 2>was manufactured and it makes perfect sense. And I suspect

525
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<v Speaker 2>personally that we're the only life in the entire universe.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of people don't want to believe that, and

527
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<v Speaker 2>may be right that there's other aliens, but I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think so personally from the evidence.

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<v Speaker 1>You bring up NASA's Don mission and the Circes discovery

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<v Speaker 1>and that discovery, but more of it's the actual investigation.

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<v Speaker 1>Why is this important?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, when we brought Allen and I had who Built

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<v Speaker 2>the Moon, published twenty five years ago, we pointed out

534
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<v Speaker 2>all these mathematical measurement based connections which were utterly impossible

535
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<v Speaker 2>between the Earth and the Moon based on the Sun.

536
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<v Speaker 2>That appeared to be a signpost, you know, there was

537
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<v Speaker 2>I'm posting something because they kept with these same numbers,

538
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<v Speaker 2>very detailed numbers. The three decimal places keep on reoccurring

539
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<v Speaker 2>and reoccurring. And we published that and we think that's

540
00:40:12.599 --> 00:40:14.880
<v Speaker 2>they've got to read that and got thinking about it,

541
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<v Speaker 2>and they spotted something, and that's the Little Planet Series,

542
00:40:20.519 --> 00:40:26.920
<v Speaker 2>which sits out there in the neck between Us and Mars.

543
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<v Speaker 2>And it's so small, but it's just big enough to

544
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<v Speaker 2>be a sphere, and its relationship to the Moon is

545
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<v Speaker 2>exactly the same as the Moon's relationship to the Earth.

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<v Speaker 2>The Moon is three point sixty six times smaller than

547
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<v Speaker 2>the Earth Series is three point sixty six times smaller

548
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<v Speaker 2>than the Moon. The Moon has got a mast it

549
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<v Speaker 2>is one eighty first to that of the Earth series

550
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<v Speaker 2>has a mast that is one eighty first to the

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<v Speaker 2>Moon and eighty one. Is it interesting because it's three

552
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<v Speaker 2>to the barer of four. They keep playing these number

553
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<v Speaker 2>games and the chances of those two things happening are

554
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<v Speaker 2>so unlikely. Because the Door mission was canceled. They were

555
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<v Speaker 2>going to go to have a look at series and

556
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<v Speaker 2>they canceled it. Then our book came out. Within two

557
00:41:23.360 --> 00:41:26.400
<v Speaker 2>years they had it up running again, and we think

558
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<v Speaker 2>we'd like to think that it was because of what

559
00:41:29.840 --> 00:41:34.360
<v Speaker 2>we pointed out in that book. And certainly when they

560
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<v Speaker 2>finished the project within days they announced that they were

561
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<v Speaker 2>now changing their attack and looking for signposts for high

562
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<v Speaker 2>technology that are not based, not a human based, not

563
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<v Speaker 2>Earth based so there was a very distinct change once

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<v Speaker 2>they're completed that mission.

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<v Speaker 1>Did they actually use the language of looking for technology signatures?

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<v Speaker 1>I think you call it techno signatures.

567
00:42:03.760 --> 00:42:09.119
<v Speaker 2>Yes, techno signatures which go ahead, which which which which?

568
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<v Speaker 2>By which they meant the signing the signs of sophisticated

569
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<v Speaker 2>technology that have got nothing to do with humans, modern

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<v Speaker 2>humans as we know it.

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<v Speaker 1>And what signatures did they find? Did you? Did they

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<v Speaker 1>ever report them? Of course that would be admitting the

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<v Speaker 1>ultimate the fact that there are aliens, and that's been

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<v Speaker 1>a challenge for NASA since to do they were started.

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<v Speaker 2>For sure, but I don't think it's got much to

576
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<v Speaker 2>do with aliens, but that that is what they declared

577
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<v Speaker 2>their intent was. And as far as I'm aware, they

578
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<v Speaker 2>haven't published any detailed findings on it, but they admitted

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<v Speaker 2>that's what they were doing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I'm curious because over twenty probably closer to thirty

581
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<v Speaker 1>years ago, Russian scientists made an astounding statement that the

582
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<v Speaker 1>moon Phobus, which was circulating Mars, was artificial. And when

583
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<v Speaker 1>they made that statement, most of the American scientific community

584
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<v Speaker 1>shot it down on a number of levels. But the

585
00:43:28.960 --> 00:43:34.760
<v Speaker 1>Russians actually sent Phobus satellite too different satellites to scan

586
00:43:35.519 --> 00:43:39.559
<v Speaker 1>the surface of this moon, and there were a number

587
00:43:39.599 --> 00:43:46.639
<v Speaker 1>of very very anomalous, strange features that made it seem

588
00:43:46.760 --> 00:43:48.039
<v Speaker 1>like it could have been man made.

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<v Speaker 2>Once you opened this Pandora's box and intellectually opened your

590
00:43:56.159 --> 00:44:01.320
<v Speaker 2>mind that these things are muting possible. The only things

591
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<v Speaker 2>that are impossible the old ideas like life spontaneously coming

592
00:44:04.760 --> 00:44:08.400
<v Speaker 2>into existence. That is impossible. But it's not impossible that

593
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<v Speaker 2>there are artificial structures. The Earth was remodeled and the

594
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<v Speaker 2>Moon was made. Is beyond any argument that any serious

595
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<v Speaker 2>scientist that wants to argue, they'll have to argue away

596
00:44:27.719 --> 00:44:31.800
<v Speaker 2>lots of data. It's not a matter of who are you.

597
00:44:32.039 --> 00:44:34.480
<v Speaker 2>I'm more important than you, My opinions more important in

598
00:44:34.480 --> 00:44:36.360
<v Speaker 2>your opinion. It's nothing to do with that. It's like,

599
00:44:36.679 --> 00:44:41.280
<v Speaker 2>just just crunch those numbers and tell me again. The

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<v Speaker 2>numbers speak for themselves, you know, Alan and I don't

601
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<v Speaker 2>have a job to do with represented them to the world,

602
00:44:47.440 --> 00:44:49.760
<v Speaker 2>and we're saying to the world, now, get on the

603
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<v Speaker 2>talk about.

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<v Speaker 1>What's fascinating to me. And we've had a number of

605
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<v Speaker 1>scientists and research investigators on Earth, the ancients to speak

606
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<v Speaker 1>on this topic. But these hominiss, these different creatures. It

607
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<v Speaker 1>seems like like there's been starting and stopping of various

608
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<v Speaker 1>experiments here on Earth where there's these ape like creatures

609
00:45:13.320 --> 00:45:18.360
<v Speaker 1>and then there's these uh you know, Neanderthal and beneficence

610
00:45:18.719 --> 00:45:23.039
<v Speaker 1>and Homo sapiens and then Homo sapien sapiens. What's your

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<v Speaker 1>what you're thinking on?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh?

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<v Speaker 1>The Earth has this huge petri dish. And who's the

614
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<v Speaker 1>one who's setting these creatures up? I mean, is it

615
00:45:35.719 --> 00:45:41.800
<v Speaker 1>direct prinspermia that is the founded foundation for this scientific test?

616
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<v Speaker 1>Or is it more like aliens are placing these creatures

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<v Speaker 1>to see if they'll live and last?

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<v Speaker 2>No, I think there's a full awareness. Three was a

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<v Speaker 2>full awareness three point seven billion years ago where it

620
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<v Speaker 2>will bring us to and it is to today because

621
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<v Speaker 2>these number of values that we see only apply right

622
00:46:05.880 --> 00:46:11.679
<v Speaker 2>now in this current human period, so that the message

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00:46:11.760 --> 00:46:19.639
<v Speaker 2>is there for us. And DNA suddenly materialized with all

624
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<v Speaker 2>this complex programming in it and through the three point

625
00:46:25.519 --> 00:46:28.559
<v Speaker 2>seven billion years of its existance, so it suddenly arrives.

626
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<v Speaker 2>It's complicated as spacecraft, you know. I mean the first

627
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<v Speaker 2>year first bacteria was was no little simple thing. It

628
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<v Speaker 2>was in massive, massively complex piece of engineering, and we're

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<v Speaker 2>we're we humans are only here right the tail end,

630
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<v Speaker 2>you know, just to paper across a mile, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>in terms of what's happened. But the first bacteria was fired,

632
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<v Speaker 2>if you like, by viruses, and viruses keep turning up

633
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<v Speaker 2>and changing everything. They're like little reprogrammers. And you can

634
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<v Speaker 2>see various key points through the billions of years and

635
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<v Speaker 2>millions of years where there are big time changes and

636
00:47:18.239 --> 00:47:23.719
<v Speaker 2>they've been increasing and increasing, Like how come people started

637
00:47:23.760 --> 00:47:26.559
<v Speaker 2>building pyramids at the same time all around the world.

638
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<v Speaker 2>Why how did language subtlelymitterialize so very recently, How did well,

639
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<v Speaker 2>you go back a bit further, how did suddenly mammals

640
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<v Speaker 2>appear from reptiles? Bang? Bang, You get these And it's

641
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<v Speaker 2>all to do with viruses landing on the bacteria and

642
00:47:46.440 --> 00:47:51.559
<v Speaker 2>reprogram them them. It's viruses are considered by mainstream science

643
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<v Speaker 2>to be a living entity, and yet they're they're like

644
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<v Speaker 2>a spacecraft. They're very complex. The land of the bacteria

645
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<v Speaker 2>on that land on the legs, and they have got

646
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<v Speaker 2>this central injector and they some of them inject their

647
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<v Speaker 2>own DNA into the DNA of the bacteria to reprogram it.

648
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<v Speaker 2>Because a piece of DNA is a program. It's a

649
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<v Speaker 2>massively complex program. So I think I suspect we get

650
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<v Speaker 2>these sudden changes happening because we're having the dial to

651
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<v Speaker 2>fine tuned. Right. We call it the UCA unknown creative Agency.

652
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<v Speaker 2>In the book, we said that this unknown creative agency

653
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<v Speaker 2>decided to put life on Earth and put this preprogrammed

654
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<v Speaker 2>DNA on Earth after they've carefully constructed the whole incubator

655
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<v Speaker 2>to take it, and then at appropriate points they adjusted

656
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<v Speaker 2>and adjusted, and they keep on adjusting. So that's fine

657
00:49:01.440 --> 00:49:03.920
<v Speaker 2>tuning the machine as they go. It's it's not it

658
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<v Speaker 2>wasn't the one out spare yet, spray and go.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what's fantastic, Chris, is that they are continuing to

660
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<v Speaker 1>pepper Earth with uh new alterations in DNA. UH I

661
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<v Speaker 1>got uh with Ramsey to say that his belief is

662
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<v Speaker 1>that these viruses are the basis for COVID and other

663
00:49:36.960 --> 00:49:40.440
<v Speaker 1>diseases that we're dealing with because they're modified, they're modifiers,

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<v Speaker 1>they're modifying who we are.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, is it.

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<v Speaker 1>Your belief that these beans are still among us?

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<v Speaker 2>Well? And in the book we we we lead to

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<v Speaker 2>the end the discussion on the identity of this uncreative agency.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, we can only think of three possibilities, but

670
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<v Speaker 2>the evidence comes down massively in favor of one of them,

671
00:50:15.119 --> 00:50:21.800
<v Speaker 2>because they know exactly what's going to happen next. And

672
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<v Speaker 2>it's impossible to escape the conclusion that they appear to

673
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<v Speaker 2>be humans from our own future. We're time traveling backwards

674
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<v Speaker 2>to make sure that they get the future that they want.

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<v Speaker 1>I've tried to wait a little bit longer to spill

676
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<v Speaker 1>the bees on that, Chris.

677
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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry about that.

678
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<v Speaker 1>You're giving it up right now. And this is what's so,

679
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<v Speaker 1>it's a profound implication. If it's true that it's we're

680
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<v Speaker 1>looking at our future, if.

681
00:50:54.199 --> 00:50:57.440
<v Speaker 2>If if we don't handle this properly, because they've given

682
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<v Speaker 2>us all the information, maybe there won't be a few

683
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<v Speaker 2>ship because it's it's it's arriving at the point at

684
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<v Speaker 2>which we are brilliantly able to dispatch ourselves forever and

685
00:51:09.679 --> 00:51:15.480
<v Speaker 2>then kill all life on Earth, whether it's creating cod

686
00:51:15.639 --> 00:51:21.760
<v Speaker 2>type back viruses, or nuclear weapons, or over population or

687
00:51:21.760 --> 00:51:28.280
<v Speaker 2>whatever else, global warming, climate change, whatever else. We need

688
00:51:29.000 --> 00:51:33.880
<v Speaker 2>to do something now. And serious scientists, very serious scientists,

689
00:51:33.880 --> 00:51:37.480
<v Speaker 2>have said for years that it could well be that

690
00:51:37.559 --> 00:51:41.800
<v Speaker 2>there's a huge message it's been called exactly fedd Galaxica

691
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<v Speaker 2>buried inside O our DNA, all DNA on Earth, because

692
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<v Speaker 2>all life is one which if we only knew how

693
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<v Speaker 2>to extract it, would would tell us exactly what we

694
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<v Speaker 2>need to do next. Well, all these number patterns that

695
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<v Speaker 2>they keep repeating, repeating, repeating, are giving us the values

696
00:52:02.400 --> 00:52:06.360
<v Speaker 2>to put into the system, to break the code, if

697
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<v Speaker 2>you like, and to open the message that's in DNA.

698
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<v Speaker 2>So what Alan and I are trying to do with

699
00:52:12.159 --> 00:52:18.079
<v Speaker 2>this book is nudge the powers that be in the

700
00:52:18.119 --> 00:52:21.360
<v Speaker 2>scientific community to wake up and swell the coffee and

701
00:52:21.440 --> 00:52:28.519
<v Speaker 2>realize that this is a really big chance to save

702
00:52:28.840 --> 00:52:32.159
<v Speaker 2>us from our own stupidity, because if we don't, the

703
00:52:32.199 --> 00:52:35.039
<v Speaker 2>people in the future know that they will probably not exist.

704
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<v Speaker 2>It's like the plot from a movie, and a lot

705
00:52:37.639 --> 00:52:40.239
<v Speaker 2>of people have a problem with that to time travel

706
00:52:40.280 --> 00:52:45.400
<v Speaker 2>and going back to build the moon. So but no

707
00:52:45.519 --> 00:52:48.880
<v Speaker 2>scientists has a problem with it. Any physicists will say, yeah,

708
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<v Speaker 2>that's entirely possible.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you mentioned now your book. A lot of the scientists,

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<v Speaker 1>when they start looking at the numbers, they don't seem

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<v Speaker 1>to have a great deal of problem with this.

712
00:52:59.719 --> 00:53:05.639
<v Speaker 2>No, not at all. But it's counter counterintuitive. But then

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<v Speaker 2>I say to people, you know, if you read about

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<v Speaker 2>quantum mechanics, it's not a counterintuitive because you've got an

715
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<v Speaker 2>object that has to spend round twice before it returns

716
00:53:17.679 --> 00:53:20.360
<v Speaker 2>to the place where it once was, and you've got

717
00:53:20.400 --> 00:53:24.679
<v Speaker 2>electrons that are communicating across the full width of the

718
00:53:24.760 --> 00:53:29.440
<v Speaker 2>universe instantaneously. Well, you know, those things should not be possible.

719
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<v Speaker 2>But people accept that quantum mechanics is there. So why

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<v Speaker 2>do they have Why do some people have more difficulty

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<v Speaker 2>believing in scientists when they say time travel is not

722
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<v Speaker 2>an issue?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know, it's funny because it brings them bahole

724
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<v Speaker 1>bunch of other topics like UFOs and UAPs. There's a

725
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<v Speaker 1>there's a branch of viewrphology which believes that these individuals

726
00:53:55.719 --> 00:53:59.000
<v Speaker 1>who are flying in these crafts are us, yes, and

727
00:53:59.159 --> 00:54:05.360
<v Speaker 1>the future, and they're basically anthropologists studying our development.

728
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<v Speaker 2>I think the first part of that is almost certainly true.

729
00:54:12.079 --> 00:54:15.800
<v Speaker 2>The second part, that they're stabbing us as anthropologists, is

730
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<v Speaker 2>a reasonable sort of explanation of why they might be

731
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<v Speaker 2>doing it. I mean, I remember, you know, in the

732
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<v Speaker 2>nineteen nineties talking to NASA people, and when I was

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<v Speaker 2>in Seattle and other places, and they showed me that

734
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<v Speaker 2>there was all sorts of footage which hadn't been shown

735
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<v Speaker 2>where people in the Space Shuttle were routinely saying, yeah,

736
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<v Speaker 2>they're here again, here they come. And they told me,

737
00:54:51.159 --> 00:54:54.840
<v Speaker 2>they said, we don't think they're aliens. We strongly suspect

738
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<v Speaker 2>that the formal lesser line internally was that they are

739
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<v Speaker 2>some aspects of humans that are just somehow apart from us.

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<v Speaker 2>Really and yeah, and I thought, whoa. That was too

741
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<v Speaker 2>much information for me at the time, and I thought

742
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<v Speaker 2>I can't handle that. But over the years it's suddenly

743
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<v Speaker 2>made more sense that people who aren't going to travel

744
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<v Speaker 2>X number of White years or hundreds of my years

745
00:55:26.480 --> 00:55:30.559
<v Speaker 2>to have a look at us, but people tomorrow in

746
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<v Speaker 2>the future, Yeah, why not.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to take a short commercial break to allow

748
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<v Speaker 1>our sponsors to identify themselves, and we will return shortly

749
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<v Speaker 1>with my guest today, Christopher Knight, presenting his new book

750
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<v Speaker 1>They Built the Earth. We will rejoin you shortly. Christopher

751
00:56:34.280 --> 00:56:36.280
<v Speaker 1>Knight's my guest today. He has written a new book

752
00:56:36.320 --> 00:56:39.000
<v Speaker 1>called They Built the Earth, and we are discussing the

753
00:56:39.079 --> 00:56:44.199
<v Speaker 1>details of this research and of the Megalithic Yard a

754
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<v Speaker 1>tool that our ancestors used to build the pyramids and

755
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<v Speaker 1>other megalithic structures. What are some of the signs that

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<v Speaker 1>our DNA is being manipulated Chris? I mean you bring

757
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<v Speaker 1>up the fact that it's a brilliant piece of biological

758
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<v Speaker 1>engineering to start with. Uh, but it you know, it

759
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<v Speaker 1>has its own and we don't really understand it's full

760
00:57:14.480 --> 00:57:19.159
<v Speaker 1>function yet. We're we're we've we've broken down the genome

761
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<v Speaker 1>of the DNA, we know all that kind of detail.

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<v Speaker 1>Is it just that we had to keep looking at

763
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<v Speaker 1>it and breaking it down further?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's the DNA that's been broken down has been

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<v Speaker 2>principle involved with the reproduction of the species, which is

766
00:57:42.119 --> 00:57:45.400
<v Speaker 2>part of what's held in DNA. But the bigger part

767
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<v Speaker 2>of it is what used to be called junk DNA,

768
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<v Speaker 2>which has no apparent function. So they thought, well, it's

769
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<v Speaker 2>just rubbish, you know, it's just they try to collected there,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's it's not. An increasing number of scientists are saying,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe that's really important bit. But the interesting thing is

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<v Speaker 2>that it hasn't changed. That part what used to call

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<v Speaker 2>the junk DNA has not been allowed to change from

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<v Speaker 2>day one three point seven billion years ago. It's fixed.

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<v Speaker 2>The other bit can have trial and error amendments as

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<v Speaker 2>it goes along the Darwinian type evolution. But the really

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<v Speaker 2>important but is fixed in time. It's as it was

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<v Speaker 2>left there. So that arguably is the message part for

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00:58:34.159 --> 00:58:39.559
<v Speaker 2>us that we need to investigate. It's completely separate to

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<v Speaker 2>the part that allows the species to reproduce itself. But

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<v Speaker 2>the difficulty has been where do you start to understanding it? Well?

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00:58:51.719 --> 00:59:00.519
<v Speaker 2>The message has been put into astronomical events around us,

783
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<v Speaker 2>the Earth itself, the Moon series, taken from the Sun,

784
00:59:06.039 --> 00:59:10.280
<v Speaker 2>and again experts have said, if you want something to last,

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<v Speaker 2>it has to be either very very very small like DNA,

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00:59:16.239 --> 00:59:21.119
<v Speaker 2>or very very very big, like a planet. Those things endure.

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<v Speaker 2>Things in between get crushed and lost and changed, and

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<v Speaker 2>mountains come and mountains go. You know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>Species come, dinosaurs come, and then they go. But what

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<v Speaker 2>hasn't changed is the relationship between these bodies and our

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<v Speaker 2>solar system. These as far as we can send key

792
00:59:45.320 --> 00:59:51.480
<v Speaker 2>bodies and our DNA, and there is some of that.

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<v Speaker 2>DNA is still the original DNA is still in existence.

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<v Speaker 2>In Western Australia, for example, there are small areas where

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<v Speaker 2>the original DNA is there just in case we lose it.

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<v Speaker 2>So there's a big, serious story here. It sounds like

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01:00:10.079 --> 01:00:16.679
<v Speaker 2>something from a movie. I mean Roland Emrick made his

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01:00:16.760 --> 01:00:21.639
<v Speaker 2>film Moonfall after reading Alan de Meier's last book Who

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01:00:21.639 --> 01:00:23.760
<v Speaker 2>Built the Moon, because it tickled his fancy and he

800
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<v Speaker 2>spent ten Yeah, and he credited us with it. But

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01:00:33.039 --> 01:00:37.719
<v Speaker 2>his storyline was pretty pathetic compared to the real storyline.

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01:00:38.320 --> 01:00:43.039
<v Speaker 2>But it's moved on so much it sounds like an

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01:00:43.079 --> 01:00:48.599
<v Speaker 2>Arthur C. Clark sort of novel. But it's not because

804
01:00:48.639 --> 01:00:52.079
<v Speaker 2>you break it down, each part is for real and

805
01:00:52.440 --> 01:00:56.519
<v Speaker 2>testably checkably there, and there's a host of scientists defending

806
01:00:56.559 --> 01:01:00.000
<v Speaker 2>each part of it. So there's no part of it

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<v Speaker 2>that we have invented and saying, oh, we believe it's

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<v Speaker 2>strict always saying is that all these scientists already in

809
01:01:07.880 --> 01:01:12.400
<v Speaker 2>violent agreement. They're just not putting it together to come

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<v Speaker 2>to the ultimate conclusion because the skinned of it. Have

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<v Speaker 2>you have you seen the.

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<v Speaker 1>Work of doctor Waynwright. He's a brit and he he

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<v Speaker 1>took Wick Ramsey's idea a step further and was capturing

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<v Speaker 1>minerals and deposits in our atmosphere and discovered that there

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<v Speaker 1>were engineered molecules that actually were giving off bits and

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01:01:43.480 --> 01:01:48.000
<v Speaker 1>pieces of DNA and other viruses and things like that,

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<v Speaker 1>and he was summarily shunned by the scientific community. And

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<v Speaker 1>now he's kind of resurfaced a little bit because people

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<v Speaker 1>are more accepting of his theories on panspermia.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's like if anyone speaks about Atlantis, they are

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<v Speaker 2>shunned as oh god crazy. And if anyone speaks about

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<v Speaker 2>is there some technology in the pyramids of the Giza Plateau,

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01:02:17.719 --> 01:02:24.119
<v Speaker 2>they shunned. And maybe they're not right, but everything should

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<v Speaker 2>be looked at in its own way and assessed. Then

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<v Speaker 2>then they know, for example, that it takes just two

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<v Speaker 2>hours for viruses, so because they're so high up in

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<v Speaker 2>the hemisphere to go around the whole planet, so they

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<v Speaker 2>can adjust everything virtually simultaneously. It is. It is astonishing,

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01:02:50.719 --> 01:02:54.079
<v Speaker 2>but people like that have got to be brave. We

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<v Speaker 2>need more bravery. So many the problem is, you see

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<v Speaker 2>the peer peer reviewed system for articles in academic journals.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a great idea to keep out silly stuff, I suppose,

833
01:03:09.599 --> 01:03:14.639
<v Speaker 2>but it does tend to serve the old ideas, however

834
01:03:14.880 --> 01:03:20.320
<v Speaker 2>week they are, because you know, if there are the

835
01:03:20.320 --> 01:03:23.320
<v Speaker 2>people doing the peer of you really believe A, B

836
01:03:23.440 --> 01:03:26.320
<v Speaker 2>and C. They hate somebody coming along and says they

837
01:03:29.239 --> 01:03:33.880
<v Speaker 2>so it doesn't get published. But slowly, slowly things move.

838
01:03:35.000 --> 01:03:41.920
<v Speaker 1>He took a micron, a very powerful microscope, and actually

839
01:03:43.519 --> 01:03:50.239
<v Speaker 1>found these artificial spores that are a certain part of

840
01:03:50.440 --> 01:03:54.199
<v Speaker 1>a certain phase of their dissension from out of space

841
01:03:54.239 --> 01:04:00.239
<v Speaker 1>into the Earth's atmosphere. They burst and give off their contents.

842
01:04:02.039 --> 01:04:05.280
<v Speaker 1>There's the damn this thing. And child Wiwick Ramsey and

843
01:04:05.360 --> 01:04:08.840
<v Speaker 1>him actually wrote a number of papers based on his research,

844
01:04:08.920 --> 01:04:12.639
<v Speaker 1>and it's so mind blowing because it's artificial. You can

845
01:04:12.679 --> 01:04:15.239
<v Speaker 1>see their little capsules.

846
01:04:15.519 --> 01:04:18.719
<v Speaker 2>It's fish engineering, isn't it. It just reeks of engineering.

847
01:04:18.840 --> 01:04:24.719
<v Speaker 1>It's total engineering. Yeah, So I don't know. I want

848
01:04:24.760 --> 01:04:27.840
<v Speaker 1>you to explain a little bit the unknown creative agency,

849
01:04:27.840 --> 01:04:32.599
<v Speaker 1>which is what you term for the brilliance of planet

850
01:04:32.639 --> 01:04:37.159
<v Speaker 1>building as well as I would think the creation of

851
01:04:38.159 --> 01:04:39.320
<v Speaker 1>Homo sapien sapien.

852
01:04:46.199 --> 01:04:49.000
<v Speaker 2>Can you give me that question?

853
01:04:50.000 --> 01:05:01.239
<v Speaker 1>So you're terming uca unknown creative agency as the force

854
01:05:01.400 --> 01:05:06.800
<v Speaker 1>behind Earth creation, Yeah, but if you think it one

855
01:05:06.840 --> 01:05:13.519
<v Speaker 1>step further, the brilliance of creating a creature is also

856
01:05:14.039 --> 01:05:14.599
<v Speaker 1>part of that.

857
01:05:15.320 --> 01:05:19.639
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Sorry, right, The for mine money all life on

858
01:05:19.679 --> 01:05:23.519
<v Speaker 2>Earth is one. Remembering that we got our DNA is

859
01:05:23.559 --> 01:05:25.960
<v Speaker 2>sixty percent the same as a daffodil, you know, in

860
01:05:27.559 --> 01:05:31.760
<v Speaker 2>all life on Earth is one. Fungus came first, then

861
01:05:32.119 --> 01:05:38.320
<v Speaker 2>animals and plants, and there's this continuum, and we clearly

862
01:05:38.360 --> 01:05:44.280
<v Speaker 2>are the homosapening champion. That is the pinnacle, because we

863
01:05:44.360 --> 01:05:50.000
<v Speaker 2>are able to think and make tools and make judgments

864
01:05:50.760 --> 01:05:55.719
<v Speaker 2>and achieve technology. But it's not even that's down to

865
01:05:55.760 --> 01:06:01.639
<v Speaker 2>the virus that infected the bacteria billions of years ago

866
01:06:02.280 --> 01:06:07.280
<v Speaker 2>and caused it to produce oxygen, and oxygen was poisonous

867
01:06:07.320 --> 01:06:10.000
<v Speaker 2>to the very creatures that were producing it, and it

868
01:06:10.079 --> 01:06:13.000
<v Speaker 2>killed them all eventually the old oxygen they produced. But

869
01:06:13.079 --> 01:06:17.039
<v Speaker 2>if our atmosphere hadn't been oxygenated, we couldn't have had fire,

870
01:06:17.159 --> 01:06:21.559
<v Speaker 2>which means we wouldn't have metrology, we wouldn't have glass,

871
01:06:21.599 --> 01:06:23.360
<v Speaker 2>we wouldn't be able to keep warm, we wouldn't have

872
01:06:23.400 --> 01:06:30.239
<v Speaker 2>been able to become the humans that we are today.

873
01:06:32.519 --> 01:06:36.679
<v Speaker 2>So there's a real long line of happy events that

874
01:06:36.800 --> 01:06:44.199
<v Speaker 2>lead to us. And I don't think we're different to personally.

875
01:06:44.239 --> 01:06:46.719
<v Speaker 2>I don't think we're't necessarily different to anything else. We're

876
01:06:46.760 --> 01:06:52.760
<v Speaker 2>just the thinking pinnacle. Of life on the planet.

877
01:06:55.239 --> 01:06:58.400
<v Speaker 1>So let's take that one step a little further. Where

878
01:06:58.440 --> 01:07:05.599
<v Speaker 1>are the signatures of an advanced human Earth human as

879
01:07:05.760 --> 01:07:08.920
<v Speaker 1>the you know, no matter how many billions of years.

880
01:07:09.119 --> 01:07:11.360
<v Speaker 1>I think it's kind of funny that even it's an

881
01:07:11.440 --> 01:07:17.840
<v Speaker 1>amazing hypothesis, because you're saying, we survive for hundreds of

882
01:07:17.840 --> 01:07:21.239
<v Speaker 1>millions of years and then at some point we create

883
01:07:22.320 --> 01:07:23.920
<v Speaker 1>the ability to go back in time.

884
01:07:26.360 --> 01:07:30.400
<v Speaker 2>But I think I think that point is probably about

885
01:07:30.599 --> 01:07:34.239
<v Speaker 2>five to ten years away. How many years five to

886
01:07:34.239 --> 01:07:37.639
<v Speaker 2>ten years away that we can actually go back, yes,

887
01:07:37.880 --> 01:07:40.800
<v Speaker 2>because we will have the instructions into how to do

888
01:07:40.840 --> 01:07:46.760
<v Speaker 2>it in the DNA. Once we apply these huge strings

889
01:07:46.760 --> 01:07:50.880
<v Speaker 2>of numbers that materialize that we're being given, we'll be

890
01:07:50.920 --> 01:07:53.599
<v Speaker 2>able to open that message and the message will say,

891
01:07:54.280 --> 01:07:56.000
<v Speaker 2>here's what you do, guys.

892
01:07:56.719 --> 01:07:59.679
<v Speaker 1>But you're actually saying that the DNA will be will

893
01:07:59.719 --> 01:08:04.480
<v Speaker 1>be able to read the engineering engineering blueprints.

894
01:08:05.239 --> 01:08:10.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it will essentially give us the engineering blueprints of

895
01:08:10.280 --> 01:08:12.840
<v Speaker 2>how to build drones to go back to build the moon,

896
01:08:13.320 --> 01:08:16.239
<v Speaker 2>and it will tell us how to do everything, and

897
01:08:16.239 --> 01:08:20.439
<v Speaker 2>we'll created the loop that completed the loop then, so

898
01:08:20.479 --> 01:08:24.479
<v Speaker 2>we're not talking about humans from tens of thousands of

899
01:08:24.560 --> 01:08:29.359
<v Speaker 2>years time we're talking about people that are our lives today,

900
01:08:30.239 --> 01:08:33.479
<v Speaker 2>that we'll be able to do that if we investigate

901
01:08:33.520 --> 01:08:38.800
<v Speaker 2>the DNA, the so called junk material using these number sequences.

902
01:08:38.840 --> 01:08:41.680
<v Speaker 2>I mean, there's enough scientists, serious, every duty scientist out

903
01:08:41.680 --> 01:08:44.960
<v Speaker 2>there saying, if only we could do that, well, you know,

904
01:08:45.640 --> 01:08:50.640
<v Speaker 2>here's here's the number sequences. It's like being given the

905
01:08:50.760 --> 01:08:54.880
<v Speaker 2>number sequences for opening Fort Knox. You know, if only

906
01:08:54.920 --> 01:08:57.319
<v Speaker 2>we knew how to open these locks, will be rich.

907
01:08:57.680 --> 01:09:02.239
<v Speaker 2>Well we do so.

908
01:09:02.359 --> 01:09:06.199
<v Speaker 1>Do you think this is how it is? This reality,

909
01:09:06.279 --> 01:09:13.560
<v Speaker 1>this dimension that we're in where we have the you know,

910
01:09:14.399 --> 01:09:17.760
<v Speaker 1>life evolves to a point. Then when we get we

911
01:09:18.199 --> 01:09:22.520
<v Speaker 1>begin looking back at what we did and adjusting it.

912
01:09:22.560 --> 01:09:26.800
<v Speaker 1>Is it for is it to learn or is it

913
01:09:26.800 --> 01:09:27.760
<v Speaker 1>to get better?

914
01:09:29.600 --> 01:09:35.760
<v Speaker 2>It is the breakpoints. We're heading towards point zero, when

915
01:09:36.399 --> 01:09:39.199
<v Speaker 2>we will have completed the first cycle, have taken three

916
01:09:39.239 --> 01:09:45.800
<v Speaker 2>point seven billion years, and after that everything will be

917
01:09:45.920 --> 01:09:54.600
<v Speaker 2>clear and we will have everything under control. Because it

918
01:09:54.600 --> 01:09:58.640
<v Speaker 2>seems to me probable this is a philosophical thought more

919
01:09:58.680 --> 01:10:01.960
<v Speaker 2>than most things. The book our hard science, but this

920
01:10:02.000 --> 01:10:04.239
<v Speaker 2>is a bit of philosophy. I think it may be

921
01:10:04.279 --> 01:10:09.359
<v Speaker 2>our role to stop the universe deteriorating because they say,

922
01:10:09.720 --> 01:10:14.079
<v Speaker 2>ultimately the universe will be like a thing, even soup,

923
01:10:14.960 --> 01:10:18.239
<v Speaker 2>just a tiny bit of absolute zero. It's got no

924
01:10:18.359 --> 01:10:22.319
<v Speaker 2>future ultimately, you know, in the huge distance. But maybe

925
01:10:23.000 --> 01:10:26.920
<v Speaker 2>as humans, our role is to turn the universe into

926
01:10:26.960 --> 01:10:31.560
<v Speaker 2>something really thinking, thoughtful and big, the whole thing, and

927
01:10:31.960 --> 01:10:34.119
<v Speaker 2>we will be in the driving seat once we could

928
01:10:34.560 --> 01:10:39.560
<v Speaker 2>get to a point of maturity. And we need that

929
01:10:39.920 --> 01:10:43.520
<v Speaker 2>big nudge because we'll be told if we open DNA

930
01:10:43.720 --> 01:10:47.279
<v Speaker 2>and it says, stop that nonsense in Ukraine, stop you

931
01:10:47.319 --> 01:10:51.960
<v Speaker 2>know whatever, stop doing this, start doing that. We will

932
01:10:51.960 --> 01:10:54.359
<v Speaker 2>have instructures because they're coming from our own future, so

933
01:10:54.399 --> 01:10:57.680
<v Speaker 2>they know what we've done, what we're currently doing, and

934
01:10:57.920 --> 01:11:04.800
<v Speaker 2>they'll guide us through it and we'll be entering a

935
01:11:04.840 --> 01:11:09.319
<v Speaker 2>whole new Golden age. All we've got to do apply

936
01:11:09.479 --> 01:11:12.560
<v Speaker 2>these numbers to the DNA. It's not a big deal.

937
01:11:13.960 --> 01:11:19.479
<v Speaker 2>It just takes a few scientists with them enough imagination

938
01:11:20.159 --> 01:11:25.479
<v Speaker 2>and nowse to to do it.

939
01:11:26.520 --> 01:11:31.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the books called they built the Earth, then seeded

940
01:11:31.680 --> 01:11:34.560
<v Speaker 1>life three point seven billion years ago. My guest today

941
01:11:34.560 --> 01:11:40.239
<v Speaker 1>has been Chris Knight, Christopher Knight. As we conclude, Chris,

942
01:11:41.479 --> 01:11:45.199
<v Speaker 1>do you have you followed the the the yugas the

943
01:11:45.319 --> 01:11:51.000
<v Speaker 1>Indian system of time they have there's huge numbers, one

944
01:11:51.079 --> 01:11:54.560
<v Speaker 1>hundreds of thousands of years, and you have to you

945
01:11:54.640 --> 01:11:59.359
<v Speaker 1>have to think about these ancient cultures that developed the

946
01:11:59.479 --> 01:12:04.840
<v Speaker 1>megalith Yard as understanding the intricacies of life a little

947
01:12:04.840 --> 01:12:06.239
<v Speaker 1>bit better than we do now.

948
01:12:08.000 --> 01:12:11.680
<v Speaker 2>I think there's been peaks in the past. I mean,

949
01:12:12.439 --> 01:12:18.039
<v Speaker 2>I was speaking at a science conference over twenty five

950
01:12:18.119 --> 01:12:22.680
<v Speaker 2>years ago now and over dinner talking to him, a

951
01:12:22.680 --> 01:12:28.319
<v Speaker 2>professor from Stanford who's expert on them the way the

952
01:12:28.359 --> 01:12:34.800
<v Speaker 2>brain works in terms of its quantum mechanic effects and

953
01:12:34.840 --> 01:12:37.760
<v Speaker 2>all sorts of things, and he said, the more we learn,

954
01:12:39.800 --> 01:12:42.319
<v Speaker 2>the more we realize what we thought was right is

955
01:12:42.319 --> 01:12:45.640
<v Speaker 2>not right, and the more we realize that the ancient

956
01:12:46.039 --> 01:12:52.319
<v Speaker 2>people of India had it right. So there have been

957
01:12:52.319 --> 01:12:59.039
<v Speaker 2>insights in the past. I suspect there work. I don't

958
01:12:59.039 --> 01:13:00.720
<v Speaker 2>know if there are ways that they were in touch

959
01:13:00.760 --> 01:13:06.319
<v Speaker 2>with things. So it feels like there were connections in

960
01:13:06.359 --> 01:13:09.760
<v Speaker 2>the past, and maybe instructions were given at different points

961
01:13:09.760 --> 01:13:12.880
<v Speaker 2>in time. I don't I don't know, but it clearly

962
01:13:12.960 --> 01:13:18.720
<v Speaker 2>has been huge nuggets of information, like the mego ethics

963
01:13:18.760 --> 01:13:23.239
<v Speaker 2>system of measurement, the megathic yard. Yeah, that that's that's

964
01:13:23.319 --> 01:13:26.680
<v Speaker 2>come from something super ancient that was established long ago.

965
01:13:27.720 --> 01:13:33.920
<v Speaker 1>Would you say it's like prediluvian or I mean extremely old,

966
01:13:34.119 --> 01:13:39.439
<v Speaker 1>that megalithic yard. It's not.

967
01:13:39.800 --> 01:13:43.840
<v Speaker 2>It's not impossible at all, far from it. And again

968
01:13:43.880 --> 01:13:49.399
<v Speaker 2>I was with a professor in Scotland for several days.

969
01:13:51.399 --> 01:13:55.000
<v Speaker 2>He was head of geology at Cambridge University, and I

970
01:13:55.039 --> 01:14:00.439
<v Speaker 2>was discussing within the the flood and that. I said,

971
01:14:00.439 --> 01:14:05.039
<v Speaker 2>of course it can't happen. And he said why and

972
01:14:05.119 --> 01:14:08.640
<v Speaker 2>he said, you're thinking the closed system it could have happened,

973
01:14:08.640 --> 01:14:11.319
<v Speaker 2>And it apparently did happen, and he gave me all

974
01:14:11.319 --> 01:14:18.319
<v Speaker 2>the references. So it appears there was a flood dating

975
01:14:18.399 --> 01:14:22.479
<v Speaker 2>you know, eleven twelve thousand years ago. Well, very easily,

976
01:14:22.720 --> 01:14:24.960
<v Speaker 2>very easily. They could have been a high technology before that.

977
01:14:26.239 --> 01:14:33.800
<v Speaker 2>It's not beyond the bounds of probability. That's alone possibility. Wow,

978
01:14:33.880 --> 01:14:35.800
<v Speaker 2>the world is not as simple as people, some people

979
01:14:35.800 --> 01:14:36.600
<v Speaker 2>would like it to be.

980
01:14:37.640 --> 01:14:40.399
<v Speaker 1>No, and our ancestors knew a lot more than we

981
01:14:40.760 --> 01:14:41.439
<v Speaker 1>think we give it.

982
01:14:41.520 --> 01:14:42.800
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, that's for sure.

983
01:14:43.039 --> 01:14:46.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but again they built the earth just came out.

984
01:14:46.920 --> 01:14:50.359
<v Speaker 1>I think it just came out in May, right, Yeah,

985
01:14:50.600 --> 01:14:53.920
<v Speaker 1>So you can get it on Amazon and your website.

986
01:14:54.039 --> 01:14:56.279
<v Speaker 1>Is they built the earth dot com? Correct?

987
01:14:56.880 --> 01:15:00.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, with dashes between the words they built dash the

988
01:15:01.319 --> 01:15:02.760
<v Speaker 2>doctor all right, they.

989
01:15:02.720 --> 01:15:07.079
<v Speaker 1>Dash built dash they okay? Good? Where else can people

990
01:15:07.159 --> 01:15:09.479
<v Speaker 1>learn about you? Are you on YouTube?

991
01:15:11.079 --> 01:15:20.520
<v Speaker 2>No, although Alan and I are reviewing that, we possibly

992
01:15:20.600 --> 01:15:25.640
<v Speaker 2>need to be, because we've just got to push we want.

993
01:15:25.680 --> 01:15:30.000
<v Speaker 2>Our target is to get eighty one leading scientists behind this.

994
01:15:30.159 --> 01:15:32.640
<v Speaker 2>Eighty one because that's the part of the number value,

995
01:15:32.720 --> 01:15:35.319
<v Speaker 2>the three to the power of four that's built into

996
01:15:35.359 --> 01:15:39.119
<v Speaker 2>the system. And if we can get even the small

997
01:15:39.159 --> 01:15:44.640
<v Speaker 2>percentages of them on board, we can start to push

998
01:15:44.680 --> 01:15:48.199
<v Speaker 2>this along. So not on YouTube at the minute, but

999
01:15:48.279 --> 01:15:49.800
<v Speaker 2>we soon will be, hopefully so.

1000
01:15:49.960 --> 01:15:53.199
<v Speaker 1>Eighty one to contribute to a white paper or eighty

1001
01:15:53.239 --> 01:15:56.159
<v Speaker 1>one to not acknowledge that you have something.

1002
01:15:57.439 --> 01:16:00.359
<v Speaker 2>Eighty one to take the time to look. Oh. Just

1003
01:16:01.520 --> 01:16:03.600
<v Speaker 2>and if they want to come up and say, well

1004
01:16:03.600 --> 01:16:08.159
<v Speaker 2>we think that's all nonsense, yeah, fine, just explain why why?

1005
01:16:08.680 --> 01:16:10.880
<v Speaker 2>Because it's not our data, you know, we're just putting

1006
01:16:10.920 --> 01:16:14.880
<v Speaker 2>the data together from other squeaky clean sources.

1007
01:16:15.119 --> 01:16:20.279
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, fantastic, Chris, the real pleasure, much success on this book.

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01:16:21.520 --> 01:16:25.159
<v Speaker 2>It was good speaking with you, Okay, pleasure, thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to mention briefly that the artificial moons on Mars,

1010
01:16:33.680 --> 01:16:38.119
<v Speaker 1>Phobus one and Foremost two were of great interest to

1011
01:16:38.199 --> 01:16:41.199
<v Speaker 1>the Russians. The fact they and I mentioned this in

1012
01:16:41.199 --> 01:16:46.039
<v Speaker 1>the interview, that they actually built unique satellites to orbit

1013
01:16:46.760 --> 01:16:51.000
<v Speaker 1>and in one case land on Phobus I, and something

1014
01:16:51.079 --> 01:16:58.520
<v Speaker 1>strange happened. They lost the communications with that satellite, and

1015
01:16:58.800 --> 01:17:02.840
<v Speaker 1>the second satellite for too they put up also had

1016
01:17:02.880 --> 01:17:06.800
<v Speaker 1>some technical problems, and just before they lost contact with it,

1017
01:17:07.159 --> 01:17:11.960
<v Speaker 1>a photograph was taken of a circular or disc shaped

1018
01:17:12.000 --> 01:17:18.279
<v Speaker 1>craft reflecting a shadow on the body of the satellite.

1019
01:17:18.479 --> 01:17:20.680
<v Speaker 1>And no one's been able to explain what happened to

1020
01:17:20.720 --> 01:17:24.920
<v Speaker 1>these two satellites. But you need to look at both

1021
01:17:24.920 --> 01:17:31.560
<v Speaker 1>of those moons. Phobus one is the most strangest of

1022
01:17:31.720 --> 01:17:36.720
<v Speaker 1>both of those moons, and I don't say this casually.

1023
01:17:36.760 --> 01:17:41.439
<v Speaker 1>There's two monoliths. There's one massive stone monolith on Phobus

1024
01:17:41.479 --> 01:17:47.680
<v Speaker 1>one and on the Phobus Two's got some strangeness as well.

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01:17:48.359 --> 01:17:53.000
<v Speaker 1>If you do a close up inspection of Phobus one,

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01:17:53.039 --> 01:17:56.920
<v Speaker 1>you'll see that it looks like it's been sewn together

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01:17:58.359 --> 01:18:01.319
<v Speaker 1>with still rivets of some kinds. Very very very strange.

1028
01:18:02.079 --> 01:18:04.319
<v Speaker 1>No one talks about it, NASA doesn't talk about it,

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01:18:05.520 --> 01:18:07.960
<v Speaker 1>and then Russians stopped talking about it over twenty years ago.

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01:18:08.079 --> 01:18:15.439
<v Speaker 1>So artificial planets appear to be in our cosmos. Something

1031
01:18:15.479 --> 01:18:22.199
<v Speaker 1>to consider. Hey, if you're enjoying Earth Ancients, Destiny and

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01:18:22.239 --> 01:18:27.439
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<v Speaker 1>and subscribe. Very easy to do. The ticket every month

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<v Speaker 1>out of your ATM or your credit card, and we

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<v Speaker 1>have a number of really neat gifts for you. We

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<v Speaker 1>have now about thirty five different ebooks. Some of them

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<v Speaker 1>are by well known authors, some of them are by

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<v Speaker 1>new authors, and that is your gift from us here

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<v Speaker 1>at Earth Ancients Destiny and Earth Ancients Special Editions of

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<v Speaker 1>the Archives. So again, to become a subscriber, go to Patreon.

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<v Speaker 1>That's p A T R E O N dot com

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<v Speaker 1>Forward slash Earth Ancients and subscribe. Hey, I want to

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<v Speaker 1>mention we are going to be in Guatemala. We're we're

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<v Speaker 1>doing our Sacred Temples of Guatemala December first of the twelfth.

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<v Speaker 1>You can see that and other tours on Earth Ancients

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<v Speaker 1>dot com, Forward slash Tours. We just release new data

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<v Speaker 1>on our Sacred Egypt tour. What's going to be which

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<v Speaker 1>is going to be April twenty eight through May second.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a brand new tour, brand new itinerary. You

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<v Speaker 1>old timers who have been with me in Egypt before

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<v Speaker 1>might want to look at this because we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>some new places. It's with our great friend Mohammed Ambraheem

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<v Speaker 1>and his wife Nola Nohah. And I'm really looking forward

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<v Speaker 1>to this tour. For the entire itinerary and all the

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<v Speaker 1>other details go to Earthacients dot com, Forward slash Tours,

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<v Speaker 1>look for the banner and everything there is laid out

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<v Speaker 1>for you. All right, that's it for this program. I

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<v Speaker 1>want to think my guest today, Christopher Knight, coming to

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<v Speaker 1>us from London and the release of his new book

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<v Speaker 1>They Built the Earth. As always, the team of Gail Tour,

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<v Speaker 1>Mark Foster and everyone who makes this thing happen. I

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<v Speaker 1>really appreciate your help. All right, take care of you well,

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<v Speaker 1>and we will talk to you next time.
