Speaker 1: So here, I sit in San Francisco Bay Area, California.
Speaker 1: I'm over in the East Bay of the Bay if
Speaker 1: you're familiar with this waterway, the Peninsula and so forth
Speaker 1: of the Bay Area. I'm in north of Berkeley. And
Speaker 1: I have to tell you there's some great news, fantastic
Speaker 1: news that the powers would be probably are unhappy about,
Speaker 1: and that is this new scanning technology. You got, the stars,
Speaker 1: you got, you got all kinds of new satellite directed
Speaker 1: coverage scanning. You have amazing results coming out. And what
Speaker 1: is the beauty of this whole thing is that the authorities,
Speaker 1: and I'm poking fun at the Egyptians because they drive
Speaker 1: me nets, they can't do anything about it. They cannot
Speaker 1: do anything about it. If you heard the interview with
Speaker 1: man who says today Robert Schock and Trevor Grassi, man
Speaker 1: who was discussing a someone, I guess it's a law
Speaker 1: that if you're scanning at such a distance like miles
Speaker 1: above the atmosphere, it's free for anyone who wants to
Speaker 1: analyze the data. And this is what's this happening with
Speaker 1: this scanning of the Caffrey and Cufu pyramid at the
Speaker 1: bewilderment of the authorities in Egypt. And I have to
Speaker 1: tell you, if you saw the interview with Joe Rogan
Speaker 1: and Zahi Hawas, you have to wonder to yourself, this
Speaker 1: is the head of the Egyptological community, Zahi Hawas. He
Speaker 1: doesn't the guy is Oh my god, he's a clown.
Speaker 1: And I'm not going to get into any more personality
Speaker 1: assassination because it's so easy for me to go there.
Speaker 1: But he's a product of that country. The country is
Speaker 1: just in turmoil, educational, political, economical, they are in turmoil,
Speaker 1: and he's a result of that. Now Mark Lerner, who's
Speaker 1: an American, is also a head figure in the Egyptological community,
Speaker 1: but he's less vocal than Zahil was. And if you
Speaker 1: saw that interview, Zahi is scary. He needs to retire.
Speaker 1: He needs to retire now. In fact, I think Rogan
Speaker 1: said yesterday on his program that it is the singular
Speaker 1: worst worst interview he has ever done. And we're talking
Speaker 1: thousands upon thousands of interviews. And if that's bad, that
Speaker 1: tells you a lot. And there's a lot of people
Speaker 1: who are making excuses for Zahi's behavior, for Zahi's lack
Speaker 1: of education and lack of knowledge. This is the This
Speaker 1: is just just the nature of this academic guy, you know.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's just the way he is. That's the
Speaker 1: way he rolls. He only wants to remember certain things
Speaker 1: and he wants it to be his point of view.
Speaker 1: And if it's not, if it does he doesn't know
Speaker 1: about it, then it doesn't make any sense. So these
Speaker 1: scans he immediately invalidated. And this is gonna This is
Speaker 1: this is important. This is important. Now we have just
Speaker 1: fallen upon some new data in the southern part of Egypt,
Speaker 1: and this is the Hawara Labyrinth, known as the Hawara
Speaker 1: Pyramid Labyrinth because it's part of the pyramid. I have
Speaker 1: mentioned that I have published these images, these scans that
Speaker 1: were taken ten years ago, and they are now becoming relevant.
Speaker 1: And we're going to find out in a couple of
Speaker 1: weeks with a three part panel of experts, including the
Speaker 1: technician who took the data from satellite and processed it. Now,
Speaker 1: the biggest problem we have is we can go ahead
Speaker 1: and we can take the photograph, we can take the scan,
Speaker 1: process it and get the data. Getting at it is
Speaker 1: a huge problem. Are we ever going to get it
Speaker 1: to Cufu and Caffrey Pyramids and the Giza Plateau to
Speaker 1: see if these underground phenomenon are readily available. It's very
Speaker 1: doubtful when it comes to Hawara Labyrinth. Will we ever
Speaker 1: get a chance to dig? Probably for a price, and
Speaker 1: I should say that for probably for a price. In
Speaker 1: Egypt you could probably get it. Money speaks very very
Speaker 1: loudly there. Unfortunately, unfortunately, and this is what the trend
Speaker 1: is right now, which is very very problematic for me.
Speaker 1: When you sign on to do a scan, they have
Speaker 1: the rights and restrictions to edit the data that comes
Speaker 1: in as released. Here's where the problem is. So good
Speaker 1: scientific method is you get one out of you get one, two, three,
Speaker 1: four or five verifications of a scan. So in other words,
Speaker 1: we get the scan of the Caffree Pyramid and then
Speaker 1: we have somebody else start digging or use ground penny
Speaker 1: training radar. There's where the problem is. And this is
Speaker 1: where we deal with problem. We deal with education, We
Speaker 1: deal with religious fundamentalism. And I'm sprinkling that right now
Speaker 1: because Egypt is now run is it's falling, it's falling behind.
Speaker 1: I think it's probably, oh God, a couple of decades
Speaker 1: behind the times. I like to say twenty, but it's
Speaker 1: probably more like fifty years. It's really really said, great
Speaker 1: to visit, amazing the visit, but damn it, we want
Speaker 1: to know what's going on. We want to see these
Speaker 1: anomalies that Chris Dunn talks about, that Robert Schock talks about,
Speaker 1: that Graham Hancock talks about that, everybody on this show
Speaker 1: talks about, and this Hawara Labyrinth that Herodotus wrote about.
Speaker 1: We want to see this thing. We want to get
Speaker 1: in there. We want to see these columns, we want
Speaker 1: to see these rooms, we want to see the details. Well,
Speaker 1: we got to go through a government that's decades behind
Speaker 1: the times. So how's that going to work out? The
Speaker 1: only way it's going to work out is for Elon
Speaker 1: Musk to donate some money. We need some billionaires to
Speaker 1: step up. If you're listening and you have some serious money,
Speaker 1: catch us in two weeks when we do this Hawara
Speaker 1: Labyrinth special program. It's going to be a special edition
Speaker 1: with XS and we're going to see exactly and here
Speaker 1: exactly what they have discovered, what their next steps are,
Speaker 1: and then we'll probably develop a growth fundme program that
Speaker 1: allows a group of experts, including scientists and filled archaeologists
Speaker 1: to go there with permission with Antiquities Department Egyptian Antiquities
Speaker 1: Department oversight to see what's there, to see if it's true.
Speaker 1: This is one of the great wonders of the world
Speaker 1: that has been talked about and was. I mean, most
Speaker 1: people thought it was a myth. Most people thought that
Speaker 1: Herodotus was on you know, mushrooms or something. We don't
Speaker 1: know what Petrie talks about it. Petrie saw parts of
Speaker 1: it the Father of Egyptology, but we haven't heard much
Speaker 1: after that. So this is going to be a very
Speaker 1: very important program that I hope you can join us with.
Speaker 1: In a couple of weeks, we'll get into more detail,
Speaker 1: and it's going to be a special edition of Earth Agents,
Speaker 1: which means that it'll probably be posted in the middle
Speaker 1: of the week, so stay tuned for that. But hey,
Speaker 1: the point I'm trying to make is this new technology
Speaker 1: is wonderful. It takes the burden out of orthodoxy and
Speaker 1: places it on the independent researcher, who in many cases
Speaker 1: has better equipment, better ability to process it quickly and
Speaker 1: get it out. So look forward to that, all right.
Speaker 1: Today's program is with Christopher Knight. He is a research
Speaker 1: investigator and he wrote a book that just came out
Speaker 1: called They Built the Earth. It's a real detailed, fundamental
Speaker 1: look at not only ancient civilizations on Earth, but also
Speaker 1: what is known as the Megalithic Yard that was first
Speaker 1: coined by doctor or professor Alex Alexander Tom. And we've
Speaker 1: talked about doctor Tom, who was a brilliant British scientist.
Speaker 1: He was actually an engineer who was studying these megalists
Speaker 1: around England and came across this discovery of the megalithic Yard,
Speaker 1: which we will talk about today. So we are also
Speaker 1: going to present some interesting details on pantspermia, and we
Speaker 1: have talked about pantspermia seeding the Earth with microbes for
Speaker 1: a number of years. We've had Chandra, doctor Chandrowick Ramsey
Speaker 1: on the program. We've had doctor Wainwright talking about spores.
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Speaker 1: updates and details on how our evolution may be processed
Speaker 1: or proceeding through the viruses that we are inflicted with,
Speaker 1: including COVID. So something to think about. So today's program
Speaker 1: is They Built the Earth and my guest is Christopher Knight. Hey,
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Speaker 1: a big question. We've talked to doctor Chandra wick Ramsey
Speaker 1: on pan spermia. We've talked about theories on our creation, humankind,
Speaker 1: the hominin known as Homo sapien sapien? Are we an accident?
Speaker 1: Are we a creation of some advanced race? And this
Speaker 1: has been a question now that we've pondered over for
Speaker 1: the last many many years. Today my guest is Christopher Knight.
Speaker 1: He and his co author Alan Butler have written a
Speaker 1: book called the They built the Earth then seated life
Speaker 1: three point seven billion years ago and then the second
Speaker 1: line is it's time to unlock the message they left,
Speaker 1: which is a fascinating title for the book we're presenting today.
Speaker 1: And this is a look at a hypothesis that is
Speaker 1: fairly radical but also has a place in our understanding
Speaker 1: of the past. So, hey, Chris, welcome to Earth Ancient.
Speaker 1: It's great to have you on the program.
Speaker 2: Good to be worthy clips. Yeah, give us a.
Speaker 1: Sense of what you and Alan I should say how
Speaker 1: you started, because this is a big question. What would
Speaker 1: be a sense of starting for you on this.
Speaker 2: Well, we had no interest in the subject matter. We
Speaker 2: didn't set out to prove a theory or a hypothesis
Speaker 2: that we've got at all. In fact, we've spent many
Speaker 2: years working together researching megalithic metrology, that is unix of
Speaker 2: measurement used in the Late Stone Age, which are for
Speaker 2: sure that they cover units of length, time, capacity, weight
Speaker 2: to everything, and it doesn't sort of make sense in
Speaker 2: the standard history, but it's provably there. But we were
Speaker 2: continuing our researchers in this area and I can't remember how,
Speaker 2: but we suddenly found that it works for the Earth.
Speaker 2: It's a geodetic system. It's based on these units come
Speaker 2: from the physical nature of the Earth. But they also
Speaker 2: worked for the Moon in every complete detail with great accuracy,
Speaker 2: but nowhere else in the Solar system. You know, Alan
Speaker 2: and I scratched our heads, thought, this is just crazy,
Speaker 2: how good Stone Age men measured the Moon, and even
Speaker 2: then they couldn't have controlled the ratio and the size
Speaker 2: between the Earth and the Moon. Until we got drawn
Speaker 2: into this. We ended up writing a book twenty five
Speaker 2: years ago now called Who Built the Moon? Because for
Speaker 2: sure it's not a natural object, And we spent the
Speaker 2: last twenty five years researching further. Because we don't write
Speaker 2: books for fun, you know, we're researchers and we just
Speaker 2: periodically write a book to share what we've found. You know,
Speaker 2: it's it's not a business proposition, because there's just hunger
Speaker 2: to understand what is, and we've had to change our
Speaker 2: minds on everything that all a preconceived that ideas have
Speaker 2: got out of the window, so we got dragged into
Speaker 2: it by accident. Basically, that's all I can say. Once
Speaker 2: in there, you can't get out. You've got to keep digging.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's funny that you bring up this megalithic yard,
Speaker 1: because I've studied the work of Professor Tom and he
Speaker 1: is just so brilliant for the time he lived. And
Speaker 1: when he started discussing this megalithic yard, he was summarily
Speaker 1: repressed and almost outed by the Society for Archaeological Research.
Speaker 2: I guess absolutely they.
Speaker 1: Talk a little bit about his discovery of the Megalithic Yard.
Speaker 2: Okay, very briefly, Alexander Tom was a renowned engineer. He
Speaker 2: was a professor of engineering at Oxford University. A scott
Speaker 2: by birth. He spent half a century surveying ancient megal
Speaker 2: ethic sites and doing a detailed engineering assessment of them.
Speaker 2: And it's like he said, no good being an archaeologists
Speaker 2: to be an engineer to understand what they were engineering.
Speaker 2: It's a wrong mindset because archaeologists are very good to
Speaker 2: get up bits of pottery and the Old Bono two,
Speaker 2: but they useless when it comes to math. So I've
Speaker 2: spoken to so many of them. They haven't a clue
Speaker 2: and they criticized Tom because they basically don't understand it.
Speaker 2: They feel threatened. So he said, well, the archaeologist said,
Speaker 2: how could they have done that? And he said, it's
Speaker 2: no business of mind how they did it. I just
Speaker 2: know that they did do it because the evidence is overwhelming.
Speaker 2: So Alan and I set out many moons ago to
Speaker 2: try and work out how they did do it, which
Speaker 2: we've succeeded in doing. Alexander Tom's closest friend, professor of
Speaker 2: astronomy at Gladsbourg University, joined him with us and said,
Speaker 2: how what a breakthrough it was. He said, if only
Speaker 2: Sandy at Alexander Tom was still alive, he would love this.
Speaker 2: And we've had other leading academics from other spheres, engineers
Speaker 2: from South Africa, professor of chemistry and physics PhD in
Speaker 2: both subjects from Canada checking our work and checking Tom's work,
Speaker 2: and they said both are correct. Tom was right, and
Speaker 2: Alan Butler and I write in working out how they
Speaker 2: did it, but then we accidentally find that it applies
Speaker 2: to the moment, then yeah, where do you go next?
Speaker 2: It was a jult to put it mildly for us
Speaker 2: because we you know, we're interested in the pyramids and things,
Speaker 2: because we were finding this. Megworthic units are used here
Speaker 2: in England a thousand years before the pyramids were built,
Speaker 2: but they were the layout of the pyramids Guze applied
Speaker 2: to our pyramids that is identical, but much smaller than
Speaker 2: structures that they build a thousand years earlier in England,
Speaker 2: not in terms of mats or height, but in ground area.
Speaker 2: And they both followed exactly the same rules of Orion's
Speaker 2: Belt using megalithic units. So something huge was going on.
Speaker 1: Do you expect, Chris, that the you say four thousand
Speaker 1: years ago was the inception, but it really feels to
Speaker 1: me that it's much much older than that, simply because
Speaker 1: it's a very sophisticated way of measuring large, large bodies.
Speaker 2: What has become clear, and we're talking about over five
Speaker 2: thousand years ago, but what is clear is that they
Speaker 2: were using something they were sort of resurrecting something that
Speaker 2: had existed long before them. They were using their technology
Speaker 2: to recreate something that had been in place way way
Speaker 2: before that, and they couldn't have originated it, but they
Speaker 2: worked out how to recreate it. So we've been pushed
Speaker 2: back in time passively. There really is. I have to
Speaker 2: say I was a pretty conventional thinker until this happened
Speaker 2: to us. You know, I was quite happy to believe
Speaker 2: the standard textbooks. But not anymore. When you've got the
Speaker 2: massive masses of information and you look at the data coolly,
Speaker 2: you've got to say something seriously weird has been going
Speaker 2: on here.
Speaker 1: Talk about the weirdness for a minute. I mean, you
Speaker 1: said the megalithic yard is used for measuring what planets.
Speaker 1: Of course you're also referring to your homeland, which is
Speaker 1: places like a Stonehenge and Averaberry and these other megalithic
Speaker 1: sites measuring those structures. But why is the megalithic yard
Speaker 1: so impressive?
Speaker 2: Well, it's impressive for all sorts of brieges. I mean,
Speaker 2: I could be washed up on a desertaland with nothing,
Speaker 2: you know, the closest stand up in and I could,
Speaker 2: just by gathering materials, I could work out to nineteen
Speaker 2: nine nine percent accuracy the leader, the pound, the ounce,
Speaker 2: the mile, the key, the kilometer, the leads and the
Speaker 2: pint anything you want, because I understand the rules underpin
Speaker 2: it or and it all comes from astronomy. But these
Speaker 2: these ancient engineers couldn't have originated it's anymore from the
Speaker 2: Greeks originated the work that they did, because when they
Speaker 2: first measured the circumference of the Earth, it was an
Speaker 2: exact number of Greek feet. That's because the Greek foot
Speaker 2: was created as a subset of the Earth in the
Speaker 2: first place, so they were reverse engineering it. And the
Speaker 2: same is true for the megalithic yard. I mean, the
Speaker 2: situation is that on the Earth there are three hundred
Speaker 2: and sixty work three hundred and sixty six degrees to
Speaker 2: a circle. So because there are three hundred and sixty
Speaker 2: six turns of the Earth in the year, it feels
Speaker 2: like three and sixty five because one gets wound off
Speaker 2: with our orbit around the Sun. But it is three
Speaker 2: hundred and sixty six if you look at any star.
Speaker 2: So the pin number, if you like, is three sixty six.
Speaker 2: And they divided the Earth into three sixty six, and
Speaker 2: then they sub divided again and again until they get
Speaker 2: three hundred and sixty six megalithic yards, who are second
Speaker 2: of arc in the polar circumference. So, as I said, Camel,
Speaker 2: what made us do it? That we found on the moon?
Speaker 2: It's exactly one hundred, one hundred to a tiny exectitude.
Speaker 2: And of course there's lots sub strange things about the Moon.
Speaker 2: We know, for example, that it is exactly one four
Speaker 2: hundredth of the distance between us the Earth surface of
Speaker 2: the Earth and the Sun, and that it is four
Speaker 2: hundred times smaller. So because of that four hundred and
Speaker 2: four hundred we get this remarkable thing older than eclipse,
Speaker 2: which we take for granted because it happens, but it
Speaker 2: doesn't happen anywhere else that we've ever not even vaguely
Speaker 2: on any of the planet. And it's such a round number,
Speaker 2: four hundred, four hundred, And then you get the one hundred.
Speaker 2: Maybe they go on that's the second about And then
Speaker 2: you find all the numbers in the moon of the Earth.
Speaker 2: And then we found that one other place as well,
Speaker 2: that was connected out in the asteroid belt. And they
Speaker 2: are playing the same numbers, repeating them, repeating, repeating them
Speaker 2: because they want to communicate these numbers. And we believe
Speaker 2: we know why these numbers are important, But clearly these
Speaker 2: were there billions of years ago these relationships. So I said,
Speaker 2: we're talking about something weird. It's weird and extreme, but
Speaker 2: you can't escape it because stats is merciless, you know
Speaker 2: when you look at the that you can't escape. But
Speaker 2: the chances of these patterns emerging by accidents our zero,
Speaker 2: absolute zero.
Speaker 1: Talk real briefly, then we'll move on. What did Alexander
Speaker 1: tom I mean, he termed it the megalithic yard, But
Speaker 1: did he see it across different cultures, the Egyptians, the Sumerians?
Speaker 2: No, because he only I say only he surveyed so
Speaker 2: many sites, but across the British Isles, England, Scotland, Wales
Speaker 2: and parts of France like Brittainy, which was has very
Speaker 2: similar sorts of structures, and he analyzed those very carefully.
Speaker 2: But he didn't He wasn't trying to be an archaeologist
Speaker 2: story his story, and he wasn't trying to find anything
Speaker 2: other than proving that these measurements were used. Subsequently, Alan
Speaker 2: Butler and I have done exactly that, looked at what
Speaker 2: the Samarians were doing and the Egyptians were doing, and
Speaker 2: without shadow with doubt, they were using the same techniques
Speaker 2: and adopting them to their own requirements, and we're still
Speaker 2: use today, of course, the Sumerian timekeeping system, which is
Speaker 2: based on sixties and tens in the minutes and seconds
Speaker 2: and minutes in an hour, and seconds in a minute,
Speaker 2: et cetera. Sixty and the greasiness circles meant is three
Speaker 2: hundred and sixty, because the Sabarians changed the three sixty
Speaker 2: six to the three hundred and sixty because it was
Speaker 2: easier to manipulate. Once they'd invented mathematics. They knew it
Speaker 2: was wrong, but they had ways of correcting for that error.
Speaker 2: It was just easier to use in the first base.
Speaker 2: And it likewise the Egyptians, when you find that the
Speaker 2: Great Pyramid, for example, has has got so he's said
Speaker 2: to exhibit the existence of pie, Well it does, and
Speaker 2: the reason is that they use their trundle wheel with
Speaker 2: a circumference of one megalithic yard. He's still doing twenty
Speaker 2: along each side. And then they use the diameter to
Speaker 2: measure the height they call that royal cubit to measure
Speaker 2: the height, and you automatically get pie because you've used
Speaker 2: the circumference for one purpose and the diameter for the other.
Speaker 2: So of course it exhibits pie but they use the
Speaker 2: megal ethic yard, that's for sure.
Speaker 1: It seems like it's a real organic mathematical system that
Speaker 1: we're not using anymore.
Speaker 2: Well we are, are we?
Speaker 1: So is it? Is it geometry?
Speaker 2: Is that?
Speaker 1: Well?
Speaker 2: No, Every units of the imperial system, the ones that
Speaker 2: are still us and the ones that have gone out
Speaker 2: of use, bushels and so forth, come from this, and
Speaker 2: so do the metric system. They're both descended from it,
Speaker 2: if you like, they're always connected.
Speaker 1: Okay, so it's like the foundation for what we're using today.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean an Italian team of investigators at the
Speaker 2: University in Italy wrote, how is it? Why does a
Speaker 2: meet along pendulum beat at once a second work it out? Well,
Speaker 2: that's a really strange coincidence. On it's not a coincidence.
Speaker 2: That's what it comes from.
Speaker 1: They use pendulance, and so it's really a sacred science
Speaker 1: that we've we just accept now. It's been handed down
Speaker 1: from the Greeks.
Speaker 2: The Greeks were very good gatherers of knowledge, you know,
Speaker 2: like the Larbie Alexandria, which is basically a Greek structure
Speaker 2: Alexander it is helping Macedonian. They were great reinventors. They
Speaker 2: they cataloged things, and they searched, and they did a
Speaker 2: great job. But they didn't They weren't necessarily very original.
Speaker 2: They were bringing together ancient knowledge that they didn't fully understand.
Speaker 2: As I suspect the main with the people before then,
Speaker 2: God knows where they got it from. Right.
Speaker 1: So your hypothesis is that Earth and its companion, the
Speaker 1: Moon are engineered from an advanced race. What are the
Speaker 1: signs of advanced engineering. Let's start with the Moon.
Speaker 2: Well, it's hard to take you in isolation, but the
Speaker 2: Moon is the most unlikely object. As I say, it's
Speaker 2: in this strange position when viewed from the surface of
Speaker 2: the Earth a human perspective is four hundred and four
Speaker 2: hundred relationship. It's got an incredibly low mass. Some people
Speaker 2: say it's hollow, which isn't quite accurate. But it's center
Speaker 2: of gravity is not in the middle where you would expect.
Speaker 2: That's progonomical logic. It has these mas goons around the
Speaker 2: outside seven areas where there is concentrations of gravity, which
Speaker 2: causes habit for spacecraft when they get to the Moon.
Speaker 2: There is nothing natural about the Moon, and one week
Speaker 2: Alan Butler and I wrote who Built the Moon? We
Speaker 2: took apart the idea that it was created because we
Speaker 2: know it's largely built a material taken from the Earth
Speaker 2: plus other material, and there was a theory that MOUs
Speaker 2: size object it there had been this gigantic event throwing
Speaker 2: off all this material that's then coalesced into the Moon.
Speaker 2: But everyone sort of knew that didn't work for all
Speaker 2: sorts of reasons. It wouldn't spin, it wouldn't be where
Speaker 2: it is, It didn't work at all. So I suggested
Speaker 2: it had been hit many times in a constructed way
Speaker 2: to sort of hammer out the Earth and to deliberately
Speaker 2: manufacture the Moon. And since we wrote Who Built the Moon?
Speaker 2: An Israeli team have come forward and have demonstrated that
Speaker 2: exactly is the case. Yeah, and which is now accepted.
Speaker 2: You know, it's clean. There is nothing in this book
Speaker 2: that isn't. All the core material is fully accepted by
Speaker 2: various disciplines of science. They just don't put it together.
Speaker 2: You know, there's there's no one putting the pieces together.
Speaker 2: If this is true, this is true, this is true,
Speaker 2: You'll say it is, this has to be true.
Speaker 1: But let me just stab you for a minute, Chris,
Speaker 1: Because the What you're saying, though, is that this is
Speaker 1: a direct panspermia kind of event, where it's it's intelligently
Speaker 1: designed by some super race to Okay, talk about that
Speaker 1: for a minute. Yeah, you use pan spermia throughout the book.
Speaker 2: Francis Crick, the guy that was one of the discoverers
Speaker 2: of the double helix of DNA. Twenty years after doing that,
Speaker 2: he came up with the idea of directed pant spermia
Speaker 2: and then supporting about people out of count Sagan and
Speaker 2: various other's and increasingly it's more and more supportive because
Speaker 2: it's ultily impossible to any only scientist to say that
Speaker 2: it happened by accident, the idea that you know, lightning
Speaker 2: bolt struck the old primeval soup and life just came
Speaker 2: into existence. That is provably nonsense. So respectable scientists talk
Speaker 2: about pantspermia i e. Bacteria or some DNA life form
Speaker 2: coming from out of space, But directed pant supermia is
Speaker 2: suggested that it was targeted at us. Now, if you
Speaker 2: think about it, anyone thinks about it. Logically, if you
Speaker 2: were going to plant life on Earth, you wouldn't just
Speaker 2: scatter it any Olhow on a happy you know likely
Speaker 2: looking planet, you'd engineer it to be a an incubation unit.
Speaker 2: You'd make sure, like any decent farmer, you'd make sure
Speaker 2: the soul was right, it was right, the weeds weren't there,
Speaker 2: that the threats weren't there, all of that stuff, which
Speaker 2: is what they did, and they created. The Earth has
Speaker 2: got liquid water on it all the time these days.
Speaker 2: In the past it has been frozen, but that's one
Speaker 2: ten thousands of the range for temperatures throughout our Solar system.
Speaker 2: It's just the Goldenlock zone isn't in it. I mean,
Speaker 2: it is amazing. And if the Moon wasn't exactly where
Speaker 2: it was originally, which was much closer in, and if
Speaker 2: it hadn't moved out exactly as it is, we wouldn't
Speaker 2: be here to talk about it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because of the gravitational polls and it kind of
Speaker 1: helps Earth support life, is what you suggest.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, the whole thing has been a precision job of
Speaker 2: from the first DNA, which hasn't evolved because all of
Speaker 2: the information was in the original DNA and it's been
Speaker 2: allowed to unpack it over three point seven billion years
Speaker 2: to us. But it could not have had by accident,
Speaker 2: as scientists say, you know, if every molecule, every particle
Speaker 2: in the universe, the entire universe, had one chance for
Speaker 2: every second it's been in existence turnity DNA, there still
Speaker 2: wouldn't be any DNA. The odds that beyond this can't
Speaker 2: be measured. It could not have happened by accident. It
Speaker 2: was done deliberately. And once you are brave enough, as
Speaker 2: Francis Crick and Carl Sagan and others have been brave
Speaker 2: enough to say, let's face it, and you get people
Speaker 2: overturning the whole life's work who are brave enough to say,
Speaker 2: I've got to say, you know, I'm in my eighties now,
Speaker 2: but everything I thought is wrong because there's no zero
Speaker 2: zero old chance of life starting on its own. It
Speaker 2: just isn't an option. So you can only get on
Speaker 2: with serious, the serious debates once you bite the bullet
Speaker 2: and say that paradigm is nonsense. Clear the decks. Let's
Speaker 2: talk about what's real instead of this sort of Basically,
Speaker 2: the old idea of lightning strikes with the primordial soupers
Speaker 2: is no better or worse than the book of Janeesips.
Speaker 2: What is it.
Speaker 1: We're going to take a short commercial break to allow
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Speaker 1: with my guest today, Christopher Knight, discussing his new book,
Speaker 1: They Built the Earth. Will be right back. My guest
Speaker 1: today is Christopher Knight. He's written a new book called
Speaker 1: They Built the Earth, and we're discussing the details of
Speaker 1: his theory on our ancient planet. I mean, the thing
Speaker 1: that I'm trying to understand, and you hint on it
Speaker 1: on the book, is what are what's the signatures of
Speaker 1: a technology involved in this? I mean, if we're talking
Speaker 1: about billions of years ago, this must be a culture
Speaker 1: that is we can't barely we could barely conceive of
Speaker 1: it being able to create a planet, being able to
Speaker 1: make it inhabitable for hominiss, for creatures to live. And
Speaker 1: I mean it's just mind blowing.
Speaker 2: Yes it is, But a lot of what we do
Speaker 2: today would have been mind blowing, you know, to people
Speaker 2: four hundred years ago, years ago, whatever. You know, we
Speaker 2: can do things that are just beyond all reason. So
Speaker 2: the fact it seems remarkable doesn't make any difference. It
Speaker 2: clearly it's like elegant Tom He's saying, I can't explain
Speaker 2: the megalathic yard, I'm just telling you it's there. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so we just need that sort of clarity. Think, let's
Speaker 2: not cloud the issue and saying we can't allow things
Speaker 2: unless we can explain them. Yeah, the fact is it
Speaker 2: was manufactured and it makes perfect sense. And I suspect
Speaker 2: personally that we're the only life in the entire universe.
Speaker 2: A lot of people don't want to believe that, and
Speaker 2: may be right that there's other aliens, but I don't
Speaker 2: think so personally from the evidence.
Speaker 1: You bring up NASA's Don mission and the Circes discovery
Speaker 1: and that discovery, but more of it's the actual investigation.
Speaker 1: Why is this important?
Speaker 2: Well, when we brought Allen and I had who Built
Speaker 2: the Moon, published twenty five years ago, we pointed out
Speaker 2: all these mathematical measurement based connections which were utterly impossible
Speaker 2: between the Earth and the Moon based on the Sun.
Speaker 2: That appeared to be a signpost, you know, there was
Speaker 2: I'm posting something because they kept with these same numbers,
Speaker 2: very detailed numbers. The three decimal places keep on reoccurring
Speaker 2: and reoccurring. And we published that and we think that's
Speaker 2: they've got to read that and got thinking about it,
Speaker 2: and they spotted something, and that's the Little Planet Series,
Speaker 2: which sits out there in the neck between Us and Mars.
Speaker 2: And it's so small, but it's just big enough to
Speaker 2: be a sphere, and its relationship to the Moon is
Speaker 2: exactly the same as the Moon's relationship to the Earth.
Speaker 2: The Moon is three point sixty six times smaller than
Speaker 2: the Earth Series is three point sixty six times smaller
Speaker 2: than the Moon. The Moon has got a mast it
Speaker 2: is one eighty first to that of the Earth series
Speaker 2: has a mast that is one eighty first to the
Speaker 2: Moon and eighty one. Is it interesting because it's three
Speaker 2: to the barer of four. They keep playing these number
Speaker 2: games and the chances of those two things happening are
Speaker 2: so unlikely. Because the Door mission was canceled. They were
Speaker 2: going to go to have a look at series and
Speaker 2: they canceled it. Then our book came out. Within two
Speaker 2: years they had it up running again, and we think
Speaker 2: we'd like to think that it was because of what
Speaker 2: we pointed out in that book. And certainly when they
Speaker 2: finished the project within days they announced that they were
Speaker 2: now changing their attack and looking for signposts for high
Speaker 2: technology that are not based, not a human based, not
Speaker 2: Earth based so there was a very distinct change once
Speaker 2: they're completed that mission.
Speaker 1: Did they actually use the language of looking for technology signatures?
Speaker 1: I think you call it techno signatures.
Speaker 2: Yes, techno signatures which go ahead, which which which which?
Speaker 2: By which they meant the signing the signs of sophisticated
Speaker 2: technology that have got nothing to do with humans, modern
Speaker 2: humans as we know it.
Speaker 1: And what signatures did they find? Did you? Did they
Speaker 1: ever report them? Of course that would be admitting the
Speaker 1: ultimate the fact that there are aliens, and that's been
Speaker 1: a challenge for NASA since to do they were started.
Speaker 2: For sure, but I don't think it's got much to
Speaker 2: do with aliens, but that that is what they declared
Speaker 2: their intent was. And as far as I'm aware, they
Speaker 2: haven't published any detailed findings on it, but they admitted
Speaker 2: that's what they were doing.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I'm curious because over twenty probably closer to thirty
Speaker 1: years ago, Russian scientists made an astounding statement that the
Speaker 1: moon Phobus, which was circulating Mars, was artificial. And when
Speaker 1: they made that statement, most of the American scientific community
Speaker 1: shot it down on a number of levels. But the
Speaker 1: Russians actually sent Phobus satellite too different satellites to scan
Speaker 1: the surface of this moon, and there were a number
Speaker 1: of very very anomalous, strange features that made it seem
Speaker 1: like it could have been man made.
Speaker 2: Once you opened this Pandora's box and intellectually opened your
Speaker 2: mind that these things are muting possible. The only things
Speaker 2: that are impossible the old ideas like life spontaneously coming
Speaker 2: into existence. That is impossible. But it's not impossible that
Speaker 2: there are artificial structures. The Earth was remodeled and the
Speaker 2: Moon was made. Is beyond any argument that any serious
Speaker 2: scientist that wants to argue, they'll have to argue away
Speaker 2: lots of data. It's not a matter of who are you.
Speaker 2: I'm more important than you, My opinions more important in
Speaker 2: your opinion. It's nothing to do with that. It's like,
Speaker 2: just just crunch those numbers and tell me again. The
Speaker 2: numbers speak for themselves, you know, Alan and I don't
Speaker 2: have a job to do with represented them to the world,
Speaker 2: and we're saying to the world, now, get on the
Speaker 2: talk about.
Speaker 1: What's fascinating to me. And we've had a number of
Speaker 1: scientists and research investigators on Earth, the ancients to speak
Speaker 1: on this topic. But these hominiss, these different creatures. It
Speaker 1: seems like like there's been starting and stopping of various
Speaker 1: experiments here on Earth where there's these ape like creatures
Speaker 1: and then there's these uh you know, Neanderthal and beneficence
Speaker 1: and Homo sapiens and then Homo sapien sapiens. What's your
Speaker 1: what you're thinking on?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 1: The Earth has this huge petri dish. And who's the
Speaker 1: one who's setting these creatures up? I mean, is it
Speaker 1: direct prinspermia that is the founded foundation for this scientific test?
Speaker 1: Or is it more like aliens are placing these creatures
Speaker 1: to see if they'll live and last?
Speaker 2: No, I think there's a full awareness. Three was a
Speaker 2: full awareness three point seven billion years ago where it
Speaker 2: will bring us to and it is to today because
Speaker 2: these number of values that we see only apply right
Speaker 2: now in this current human period, so that the message
Speaker 2: is there for us. And DNA suddenly materialized with all
Speaker 2: this complex programming in it and through the three point
Speaker 2: seven billion years of its existance, so it suddenly arrives.
Speaker 2: It's complicated as spacecraft, you know. I mean the first
Speaker 2: year first bacteria was was no little simple thing. It
Speaker 2: was in massive, massively complex piece of engineering, and we're
Speaker 2: we're we humans are only here right the tail end,
Speaker 2: you know, just to paper across a mile, you know,
Speaker 2: in terms of what's happened. But the first bacteria was fired,
Speaker 2: if you like, by viruses, and viruses keep turning up
Speaker 2: and changing everything. They're like little reprogrammers. And you can
Speaker 2: see various key points through the billions of years and
Speaker 2: millions of years where there are big time changes and
Speaker 2: they've been increasing and increasing, Like how come people started
Speaker 2: building pyramids at the same time all around the world.
Speaker 2: Why how did language subtlelymitterialize so very recently, How did well,
Speaker 2: you go back a bit further, how did suddenly mammals
Speaker 2: appear from reptiles? Bang? Bang, You get these And it's
Speaker 2: all to do with viruses landing on the bacteria and
Speaker 2: reprogram them them. It's viruses are considered by mainstream science
Speaker 2: to be a living entity, and yet they're they're like
Speaker 2: a spacecraft. They're very complex. The land of the bacteria
Speaker 2: on that land on the legs, and they have got
Speaker 2: this central injector and they some of them inject their
Speaker 2: own DNA into the DNA of the bacteria to reprogram it.
Speaker 2: Because a piece of DNA is a program. It's a
Speaker 2: massively complex program. So I think I suspect we get
Speaker 2: these sudden changes happening because we're having the dial to
Speaker 2: fine tuned. Right. We call it the UCA unknown creative Agency.
Speaker 2: In the book, we said that this unknown creative agency
Speaker 2: decided to put life on Earth and put this preprogrammed
Speaker 2: DNA on Earth after they've carefully constructed the whole incubator
Speaker 2: to take it, and then at appropriate points they adjusted
Speaker 2: and adjusted, and they keep on adjusting. So that's fine
Speaker 2: tuning the machine as they go. It's it's not it
Speaker 2: wasn't the one out spare yet, spray and go.
Speaker 1: That's what's fantastic, Chris, is that they are continuing to
Speaker 1: pepper Earth with uh new alterations in DNA. UH I
Speaker 1: got uh with Ramsey to say that his belief is
Speaker 1: that these viruses are the basis for COVID and other
Speaker 1: diseases that we're dealing with because they're modified, they're modifiers,
Speaker 1: they're modifying who we are.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, is it.
Speaker 1: Your belief that these beans are still among us?
Speaker 2: Well? And in the book we we we lead to
Speaker 2: the end the discussion on the identity of this uncreative agency.
Speaker 2: You know, we can only think of three possibilities, but
Speaker 2: the evidence comes down massively in favor of one of them,
Speaker 2: because they know exactly what's going to happen next. And
Speaker 2: it's impossible to escape the conclusion that they appear to
Speaker 2: be humans from our own future. We're time traveling backwards
Speaker 2: to make sure that they get the future that they want.
Speaker 1: I've tried to wait a little bit longer to spill
Speaker 1: the bees on that, Chris.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry about that.
Speaker 1: You're giving it up right now. And this is what's so,
Speaker 1: it's a profound implication. If it's true that it's we're
Speaker 1: looking at our future, if.
Speaker 2: If if we don't handle this properly, because they've given
Speaker 2: us all the information, maybe there won't be a few
Speaker 2: ship because it's it's it's arriving at the point at
Speaker 2: which we are brilliantly able to dispatch ourselves forever and
Speaker 2: then kill all life on Earth, whether it's creating cod
Speaker 2: type back viruses, or nuclear weapons, or over population or
Speaker 2: whatever else, global warming, climate change, whatever else. We need
Speaker 2: to do something now. And serious scientists, very serious scientists,
Speaker 2: have said for years that it could well be that
Speaker 2: there's a huge message it's been called exactly fedd Galaxica
Speaker 2: buried inside O our DNA, all DNA on Earth, because
Speaker 2: all life is one which if we only knew how
Speaker 2: to extract it, would would tell us exactly what we
Speaker 2: need to do next. Well, all these number patterns that
Speaker 2: they keep repeating, repeating, repeating, are giving us the values
Speaker 2: to put into the system, to break the code, if
Speaker 2: you like, and to open the message that's in DNA.
Speaker 2: So what Alan and I are trying to do with
Speaker 2: this book is nudge the powers that be in the
Speaker 2: scientific community to wake up and swell the coffee and
Speaker 2: realize that this is a really big chance to save
Speaker 2: us from our own stupidity, because if we don't, the
Speaker 2: people in the future know that they will probably not exist.
Speaker 2: It's like the plot from a movie, and a lot
Speaker 2: of people have a problem with that to time travel
Speaker 2: and going back to build the moon. So but no
Speaker 2: scientists has a problem with it. Any physicists will say, yeah,
Speaker 2: that's entirely possible.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you mentioned now your book. A lot of the scientists,
Speaker 1: when they start looking at the numbers, they don't seem
Speaker 1: to have a great deal of problem with this.
Speaker 2: No, not at all. But it's counter counterintuitive. But then
Speaker 2: I say to people, you know, if you read about
Speaker 2: quantum mechanics, it's not a counterintuitive because you've got an
Speaker 2: object that has to spend round twice before it returns
Speaker 2: to the place where it once was, and you've got
Speaker 2: electrons that are communicating across the full width of the
Speaker 2: universe instantaneously. Well, you know, those things should not be possible.
Speaker 2: But people accept that quantum mechanics is there. So why
Speaker 2: do they have Why do some people have more difficulty
Speaker 2: believing in scientists when they say time travel is not
Speaker 2: an issue?
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, it's funny because it brings them bahole
Speaker 1: bunch of other topics like UFOs and UAPs. There's a
Speaker 1: there's a branch of viewrphology which believes that these individuals
Speaker 1: who are flying in these crafts are us, yes, and
Speaker 1: the future, and they're basically anthropologists studying our development.
Speaker 2: I think the first part of that is almost certainly true.
Speaker 2: The second part, that they're stabbing us as anthropologists, is
Speaker 2: a reasonable sort of explanation of why they might be
Speaker 2: doing it. I mean, I remember, you know, in the
Speaker 2: nineteen nineties talking to NASA people, and when I was
Speaker 2: in Seattle and other places, and they showed me that
Speaker 2: there was all sorts of footage which hadn't been shown
Speaker 2: where people in the Space Shuttle were routinely saying, yeah,
Speaker 2: they're here again, here they come. And they told me,
Speaker 2: they said, we don't think they're aliens. We strongly suspect
Speaker 2: that the formal lesser line internally was that they are
Speaker 2: some aspects of humans that are just somehow apart from us.
Speaker 2: Really and yeah, and I thought, whoa. That was too
Speaker 2: much information for me at the time, and I thought
Speaker 2: I can't handle that. But over the years it's suddenly
Speaker 2: made more sense that people who aren't going to travel
Speaker 2: X number of White years or hundreds of my years
Speaker 2: to have a look at us, but people tomorrow in
Speaker 2: the future, Yeah, why not.
Speaker 1: I'm going to take a short commercial break to allow
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Speaker 1: with my guest today, Christopher Knight, presenting his new book
Speaker 1: They Built the Earth. We will rejoin you shortly. Christopher
Speaker 1: Knight's my guest today. He has written a new book
Speaker 1: called They Built the Earth, and we are discussing the
Speaker 1: details of this research and of the Megalithic Yard a
Speaker 1: tool that our ancestors used to build the pyramids and
Speaker 1: other megalithic structures. What are some of the signs that
Speaker 1: our DNA is being manipulated Chris? I mean you bring
Speaker 1: up the fact that it's a brilliant piece of biological
Speaker 1: engineering to start with. Uh, but it you know, it
Speaker 1: has its own and we don't really understand it's full
Speaker 1: function yet. We're we're we've we've broken down the genome
Speaker 1: of the DNA, we know all that kind of detail.
Speaker 1: Is it just that we had to keep looking at
Speaker 1: it and breaking it down further?
Speaker 2: Well, it's the DNA that's been broken down has been
Speaker 2: principle involved with the reproduction of the species, which is
Speaker 2: part of what's held in DNA. But the bigger part
Speaker 2: of it is what used to be called junk DNA,
Speaker 2: which has no apparent function. So they thought, well, it's
Speaker 2: just rubbish, you know, it's just they try to collected there,
Speaker 2: but it's it's not. An increasing number of scientists are saying,
Speaker 2: maybe that's really important bit. But the interesting thing is
Speaker 2: that it hasn't changed. That part what used to call
Speaker 2: the junk DNA has not been allowed to change from
Speaker 2: day one three point seven billion years ago. It's fixed.
Speaker 2: The other bit can have trial and error amendments as
Speaker 2: it goes along the Darwinian type evolution. But the really
Speaker 2: important but is fixed in time. It's as it was
Speaker 2: left there. So that arguably is the message part for
Speaker 2: us that we need to investigate. It's completely separate to
Speaker 2: the part that allows the species to reproduce itself. But
Speaker 2: the difficulty has been where do you start to understanding it? Well?
Speaker 2: The message has been put into astronomical events around us,
Speaker 2: the Earth itself, the Moon series, taken from the Sun,
Speaker 2: and again experts have said, if you want something to last,
Speaker 2: it has to be either very very very small like DNA,
Speaker 2: or very very very big, like a planet. Those things endure.
Speaker 2: Things in between get crushed and lost and changed, and
Speaker 2: mountains come and mountains go. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2: Species come, dinosaurs come, and then they go. But what
Speaker 2: hasn't changed is the relationship between these bodies and our
Speaker 2: solar system. These as far as we can send key
Speaker 2: bodies and our DNA, and there is some of that.
Speaker 2: DNA is still the original DNA is still in existence.
Speaker 2: In Western Australia, for example, there are small areas where
Speaker 2: the original DNA is there just in case we lose it.
Speaker 2: So there's a big, serious story here. It sounds like
Speaker 2: something from a movie. I mean Roland Emrick made his
Speaker 2: film Moonfall after reading Alan de Meier's last book Who
Speaker 2: Built the Moon, because it tickled his fancy and he
Speaker 2: spent ten Yeah, and he credited us with it. But
Speaker 2: his storyline was pretty pathetic compared to the real storyline.
Speaker 2: But it's moved on so much it sounds like an
Speaker 2: Arthur C. Clark sort of novel. But it's not because
Speaker 2: you break it down, each part is for real and
Speaker 2: testably checkably there, and there's a host of scientists defending
Speaker 2: each part of it. So there's no part of it
Speaker 2: that we have invented and saying, oh, we believe it's
Speaker 2: strict always saying is that all these scientists already in
Speaker 2: violent agreement. They're just not putting it together to come
Speaker 2: to the ultimate conclusion because the skinned of it. Have
Speaker 2: you have you seen the.
Speaker 1: Work of doctor Waynwright. He's a brit and he he
Speaker 1: took Wick Ramsey's idea a step further and was capturing
Speaker 1: minerals and deposits in our atmosphere and discovered that there
Speaker 1: were engineered molecules that actually were giving off bits and
Speaker 1: pieces of DNA and other viruses and things like that,
Speaker 1: and he was summarily shunned by the scientific community. And
Speaker 1: now he's kind of resurfaced a little bit because people
Speaker 1: are more accepting of his theories on panspermia.
Speaker 2: Well, it's like if anyone speaks about Atlantis, they are
Speaker 2: shunned as oh god crazy. And if anyone speaks about
Speaker 2: is there some technology in the pyramids of the Giza Plateau,
Speaker 2: they shunned. And maybe they're not right, but everything should
Speaker 2: be looked at in its own way and assessed. Then
Speaker 2: then they know, for example, that it takes just two
Speaker 2: hours for viruses, so because they're so high up in
Speaker 2: the hemisphere to go around the whole planet, so they
Speaker 2: can adjust everything virtually simultaneously. It is. It is astonishing,
Speaker 2: but people like that have got to be brave. We
Speaker 2: need more bravery. So many the problem is, you see
Speaker 2: the peer peer reviewed system for articles in academic journals.
Speaker 2: It's a great idea to keep out silly stuff, I suppose,
Speaker 2: but it does tend to serve the old ideas, however
Speaker 2: week they are, because you know, if there are the
Speaker 2: people doing the peer of you really believe A, B
Speaker 2: and C. They hate somebody coming along and says they
Speaker 2: so it doesn't get published. But slowly, slowly things move.
Speaker 1: He took a micron, a very powerful microscope, and actually
Speaker 1: found these artificial spores that are a certain part of
Speaker 1: a certain phase of their dissension from out of space
Speaker 1: into the Earth's atmosphere. They burst and give off their contents.
Speaker 1: There's the damn this thing. And child Wiwick Ramsey and
Speaker 1: him actually wrote a number of papers based on his research,
Speaker 1: and it's so mind blowing because it's artificial. You can
Speaker 1: see their little capsules.
Speaker 2: It's fish engineering, isn't it. It just reeks of engineering.
Speaker 1: It's total engineering. Yeah, So I don't know. I want
Speaker 1: you to explain a little bit the unknown creative agency,
Speaker 1: which is what you term for the brilliance of planet
Speaker 1: building as well as I would think the creation of
Speaker 1: Homo sapien sapien.
Speaker 2: Can you give me that question?
Speaker 1: So you're terming uca unknown creative agency as the force
Speaker 1: behind Earth creation, Yeah, but if you think it one
Speaker 1: step further, the brilliance of creating a creature is also
Speaker 1: part of that.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Sorry, right, The for mine money all life on
Speaker 2: Earth is one. Remembering that we got our DNA is
Speaker 2: sixty percent the same as a daffodil, you know, in
Speaker 2: all life on Earth is one. Fungus came first, then
Speaker 2: animals and plants, and there's this continuum, and we clearly
Speaker 2: are the homosapening champion. That is the pinnacle, because we
Speaker 2: are able to think and make tools and make judgments
Speaker 2: and achieve technology. But it's not even that's down to
Speaker 2: the virus that infected the bacteria billions of years ago
Speaker 2: and caused it to produce oxygen, and oxygen was poisonous
Speaker 2: to the very creatures that were producing it, and it
Speaker 2: killed them all eventually the old oxygen they produced. But
Speaker 2: if our atmosphere hadn't been oxygenated, we couldn't have had fire,
Speaker 2: which means we wouldn't have metrology, we wouldn't have glass,
Speaker 2: we wouldn't be able to keep warm, we wouldn't have
Speaker 2: been able to become the humans that we are today.
Speaker 2: So there's a real long line of happy events that
Speaker 2: lead to us. And I don't think we're different to personally.
Speaker 2: I don't think we're't necessarily different to anything else. We're
Speaker 2: just the thinking pinnacle. Of life on the planet.
Speaker 1: So let's take that one step a little further. Where
Speaker 1: are the signatures of an advanced human Earth human as
Speaker 1: the you know, no matter how many billions of years.
Speaker 1: I think it's kind of funny that even it's an
Speaker 1: amazing hypothesis, because you're saying, we survive for hundreds of
Speaker 1: millions of years and then at some point we create
Speaker 1: the ability to go back in time.
Speaker 2: But I think I think that point is probably about
Speaker 2: five to ten years away. How many years five to
Speaker 2: ten years away that we can actually go back, yes,
Speaker 2: because we will have the instructions into how to do
Speaker 2: it in the DNA. Once we apply these huge strings
Speaker 2: of numbers that materialize that we're being given, we'll be
Speaker 2: able to open that message and the message will say,
Speaker 2: here's what you do, guys.
Speaker 1: But you're actually saying that the DNA will be will
Speaker 1: be able to read the engineering engineering blueprints.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it will essentially give us the engineering blueprints of
Speaker 2: how to build drones to go back to build the moon,
Speaker 2: and it will tell us how to do everything, and
Speaker 2: we'll created the loop that completed the loop then, so
Speaker 2: we're not talking about humans from tens of thousands of
Speaker 2: years time we're talking about people that are our lives today,
Speaker 2: that we'll be able to do that if we investigate
Speaker 2: the DNA, the so called junk material using these number sequences.
Speaker 2: I mean, there's enough scientists, serious, every duty scientist out
Speaker 2: there saying, if only we could do that, well, you know,
Speaker 2: here's here's the number sequences. It's like being given the
Speaker 2: number sequences for opening Fort Knox. You know, if only
Speaker 2: we knew how to open these locks, will be rich.
Speaker 2: Well we do so.
Speaker 1: Do you think this is how it is? This reality,
Speaker 1: this dimension that we're in where we have the you know,
Speaker 1: life evolves to a point. Then when we get we
Speaker 1: begin looking back at what we did and adjusting it.
Speaker 1: Is it for is it to learn or is it
Speaker 1: to get better?
Speaker 2: It is the breakpoints. We're heading towards point zero, when
Speaker 2: we will have completed the first cycle, have taken three
Speaker 2: point seven billion years, and after that everything will be
Speaker 2: clear and we will have everything under control. Because it
Speaker 2: seems to me probable this is a philosophical thought more
Speaker 2: than most things. The book our hard science, but this
Speaker 2: is a bit of philosophy. I think it may be
Speaker 2: our role to stop the universe deteriorating because they say,
Speaker 2: ultimately the universe will be like a thing, even soup,
Speaker 2: just a tiny bit of absolute zero. It's got no
Speaker 2: future ultimately, you know, in the huge distance. But maybe
Speaker 2: as humans, our role is to turn the universe into
Speaker 2: something really thinking, thoughtful and big, the whole thing, and
Speaker 2: we will be in the driving seat once we could
Speaker 2: get to a point of maturity. And we need that
Speaker 2: big nudge because we'll be told if we open DNA
Speaker 2: and it says, stop that nonsense in Ukraine, stop you
Speaker 2: know whatever, stop doing this, start doing that. We will
Speaker 2: have instructures because they're coming from our own future, so
Speaker 2: they know what we've done, what we're currently doing, and
Speaker 2: they'll guide us through it and we'll be entering a
Speaker 2: whole new Golden age. All we've got to do apply
Speaker 2: these numbers to the DNA. It's not a big deal.
Speaker 2: It just takes a few scientists with them enough imagination
Speaker 2: and nowse to to do it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the books called they built the Earth, then seeded
Speaker 1: life three point seven billion years ago. My guest today
Speaker 1: has been Chris Knight, Christopher Knight. As we conclude, Chris,
Speaker 1: do you have you followed the the the yugas the
Speaker 1: Indian system of time they have there's huge numbers, one
Speaker 1: hundreds of thousands of years, and you have to you
Speaker 1: have to think about these ancient cultures that developed the
Speaker 1: megalith Yard as understanding the intricacies of life a little
Speaker 1: bit better than we do now.
Speaker 2: I think there's been peaks in the past. I mean,
Speaker 2: I was speaking at a science conference over twenty five
Speaker 2: years ago now and over dinner talking to him, a
Speaker 2: professor from Stanford who's expert on them the way the
Speaker 2: brain works in terms of its quantum mechanic effects and
Speaker 2: all sorts of things, and he said, the more we learn,
Speaker 2: the more we realize what we thought was right is
Speaker 2: not right, and the more we realize that the ancient
Speaker 2: people of India had it right. So there have been
Speaker 2: insights in the past. I suspect there work. I don't
Speaker 2: know if there are ways that they were in touch
Speaker 2: with things. So it feels like there were connections in
Speaker 2: the past, and maybe instructions were given at different points
Speaker 2: in time. I don't I don't know, but it clearly
Speaker 2: has been huge nuggets of information, like the mego ethics
Speaker 2: system of measurement, the megathic yard. Yeah, that that's that's
Speaker 2: come from something super ancient that was established long ago.
Speaker 1: Would you say it's like prediluvian or I mean extremely old,
Speaker 1: that megalithic yard. It's not.
Speaker 2: It's not impossible at all, far from it. And again
Speaker 2: I was with a professor in Scotland for several days.
Speaker 2: He was head of geology at Cambridge University, and I
Speaker 2: was discussing within the the flood and that. I said,
Speaker 2: of course it can't happen. And he said why and
Speaker 2: he said, you're thinking the closed system it could have happened,
Speaker 2: And it apparently did happen, and he gave me all
Speaker 2: the references. So it appears there was a flood dating
Speaker 2: you know, eleven twelve thousand years ago. Well, very easily,
Speaker 2: very easily. They could have been a high technology before that.
Speaker 2: It's not beyond the bounds of probability. That's alone possibility. Wow,
Speaker 2: the world is not as simple as people, some people
Speaker 2: would like it to be.
Speaker 1: No, and our ancestors knew a lot more than we
Speaker 1: think we give it.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, that's for sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but again they built the earth just came out.
Speaker 1: I think it just came out in May, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: So you can get it on Amazon and your website.
Speaker 1: Is they built the earth dot com? Correct?
Speaker 2: Yeah, with dashes between the words they built dash the
Speaker 2: doctor all right, they.
Speaker 1: Dash built dash they okay? Good? Where else can people
Speaker 1: learn about you? Are you on YouTube?
Speaker 2: No, although Alan and I are reviewing that, we possibly
Speaker 2: need to be, because we've just got to push we want.
Speaker 2: Our target is to get eighty one leading scientists behind this.
Speaker 2: Eighty one because that's the part of the number value,
Speaker 2: the three to the power of four that's built into
Speaker 2: the system. And if we can get even the small
Speaker 2: percentages of them on board, we can start to push
Speaker 2: this along. So not on YouTube at the minute, but
Speaker 2: we soon will be, hopefully so.
Speaker 1: Eighty one to contribute to a white paper or eighty
Speaker 1: one to not acknowledge that you have something.
Speaker 2: Eighty one to take the time to look. Oh. Just
Speaker 2: and if they want to come up and say, well
Speaker 2: we think that's all nonsense, yeah, fine, just explain why why?
Speaker 2: Because it's not our data, you know, we're just putting
Speaker 2: the data together from other squeaky clean sources.
Speaker 1: Yeah, fantastic, Chris, the real pleasure, much success on this book.
Speaker 2: It was good speaking with you, Okay, pleasure, thank you.
Speaker 1: I wanted to mention briefly that the artificial moons on Mars,
Speaker 1: Phobus one and Foremost two were of great interest to
Speaker 1: the Russians. The fact they and I mentioned this in
Speaker 1: the interview, that they actually built unique satellites to orbit
Speaker 1: and in one case land on Phobus I, and something
Speaker 1: strange happened. They lost the communications with that satellite, and
Speaker 1: the second satellite for too they put up also had
Speaker 1: some technical problems, and just before they lost contact with it,
Speaker 1: a photograph was taken of a circular or disc shaped
Speaker 1: craft reflecting a shadow on the body of the satellite.
Speaker 1: And no one's been able to explain what happened to
Speaker 1: these two satellites. But you need to look at both
Speaker 1: of those moons. Phobus one is the most strangest of
Speaker 1: both of those moons, and I don't say this casually.
Speaker 1: There's two monoliths. There's one massive stone monolith on Phobus
Speaker 1: one and on the Phobus Two's got some strangeness as well.
Speaker 1: If you do a close up inspection of Phobus one,
Speaker 1: you'll see that it looks like it's been sewn together
Speaker 1: with still rivets of some kinds. Very very very strange.
Speaker 1: No one talks about it, NASA doesn't talk about it,
Speaker 1: and then Russians stopped talking about it over twenty years ago.
Speaker 1: So artificial planets appear to be in our cosmos. Something
Speaker 1: to consider. Hey, if you're enjoying Earth Ancients, Destiny and
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Speaker 1: want to think my guest today, Christopher Knight, coming to
Speaker 1: us from London and the release of his new book
Speaker 1: They Built the Earth. As always, the team of Gail Tour,
Speaker 1: Mark Foster and everyone who makes this thing happen. I
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