Speaker 1: It's the first huge slate in the NHL season so far,
and we are here to break it down right here
on Puck Time, myself Andrew McGinnis, of course, with carmin
Bianco as usual, and today not one but two guests
with us, Lawrence the Prez Presman and Brian Leonard joining
us here to give us some thoughts on some games
of their choice. Looking forward to a jam pack Puck Time.
We got a lot of you guys in the live
chat already. We will take some questions at the end
of the show, but a lot of games, so Karen,
we won't waste too much time. But for you, bring
in Press.
Speaker 2: How are you, Karen, I'm good man. Fourteen games today,
twenty eight teams in action, no games tomorrow. We are
going to cover the Jet You and I are going
to cover the Jets and Stars, Canes and Devils, and
then Vegas and the Sharks, and then we got Brian
Leonard coming in a little later on. He is going
to do the Anaheim and Seattle game. But let's bring
in none other than the pres. He's going to talk
about the Florida Panthers, one of his favorite teams. Press,
the Philadelphia Flyers.
Speaker 3: Pres Well, who doesn't love the Florida Panthers, right?
Speaker 2: Absolutely? Can you not love those team? Two times Stanley
Cup champions, three finals in a row. Pres is in
an elevator. Apparently I have.
Speaker 3: But that said, I don't like being so low down.
You know, I'm five to seven. I got to deal
with being a little guy all my life. So now
I've raised I've raised the bar.
Speaker 2: I'm high, small guy, big small guy, big heart. Pres Yes, sir,
I know you got a ton of things to do today.
The Florida Panthers minus two fourteen at home, the Philadelphia
Flyers plus one seventy four. The total sits here currently
at five and a half shaded twenty two cents to
the over twenty five other books, which likely means this
is going to probably hit a six at some point today.
Give us your thoughts on this one.
Speaker 3: Before I do that, can I just make mention what
a pleasure it is that I'm going to be on
the same show as Brian Leonard today. The last time
I did a show with Brian Leonard, I'd like to
tell you how it went, if you don't mind. So
I was doing wager Talk today. It was the start
of the baseball season. Brian Leonard comes on and I
am like, Brian, what do you think of the Jays
pitching staff? He's like, Oh, the whole damn staff will
be traded. The Jays won't win eighty games this year.
Trade them all. They're a horrible, horrible team. Just wanted
to throw that out there. That was this year, start
of this year. This year, Brian Leonard, this year.
Speaker 2: Okay, wait, wait, wait, hold on before you before you
go any further. So what you're saying is we should
always judge someone by their initial thoughts and not on
how the season progresses.
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, yeah, Well, given that he never emailed or
text or said anything. He never congratulated us last night
by text nothing. All he did was insult our Jays
car Mine, and now he says, I have dementia.
Speaker 1: You must have me confused with somebody else. He says
in the YouTube chat. Pres my favorite part obviously as
a fan. It's exciting underdogs in every game but one.
You gotta love that. Underdogs in every single game but one.
That's super exciting. But yeah, present when you you chose
this game. Looking at Florida, a lot of people were
upset the fact that the Florida Panthers first game in
the season was against the Chicago Blackhawks. Like the NHL
marketing set this like.
Speaker 3: The world we love in that.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say politicians are upset, but I'd say the
hockey world's upset about it. I think that you look
at other sports, look at how the NFL starts out.
It's two big time teams. You look at how every
sports starts like we were comparing it yesterday as if
the Chiefs played the Titans on opening night in the NFL.
Imagine that, you know, I imagine if it was the
Golden State standalone game against the Charlotte Hornets games that night.
So Florida off that game, What do you think about
them tonight?
Speaker 3: Okay, so let's let's let's handicap this thing. I like
the under in this game. I like the under. I'm
looking to bet the under and all Florida games and
all Flyer games from the Florida perspective. I mean, this
team is a stone cold under team regardless period. They
play defense, they have outstanding goaltending, and they grind and
they're heavy, and they're they're just tough to play against.
The fore check, the backcheck, and now without Barkoff and Kachuk,
I understand that those are two defensive specialists, but there
are also two guys that score is their number one scorer,
bark Ops might maybe their number two or three. So
I think that recognizing that they are not, they don't
have a lot of depth scoring wise. I think this
is a team that is going to try grind out wins.
We saw it against Chicago they won three to two.
I think tonight's game will be two to one, with
maybe an empty net, or to make three to one.
I think the Flyers are very similar. I think the
Flyers approach this year is going to be copy Florida.
Play tight, play, aggressive, backcheck for check, focus on your system,
focus on your role. The goals will come. Keep the
pac out of the net. That's going to be Philadelphia's
slogan all year, and we already know it's Florida's. I'd
love for you guys to wait. I think there might
be a six coming up, given that it's so heavily
juiced to under on the five and a half. But
I do think this game is going to go under,
and listen, guys, I wouldn't be blown away if Philadelphia
wins this game. So yeah, Florida is gonna get everybody's
best all year, and especially at the beginning of the
season with an upstart team like Philly.
Speaker 2: Press. Do you think there's any type of a coaching bump?
I know initially yes, Rick Talckett back with the backpers.
We know what he did in Vancouver and they were
a much better team. But other problems with that team
and then eventually goaltending and injuries, the demco and what
have you. But uh, you know, Florida gets the initial win.
Can you not see an upset in this one? Or
can you see an upset in this one?
Speaker 3: I already said I can see an upset in this one.
I would not be surprised if Philadelphia won. And the
fact that Talking is buying the bench also solidifies my
desire to play the under I think Talking is going
to be very similar to how he was as a player,
and that is grind him out, hit him, hit him,
beat them up.
Speaker 2: Make that.
Speaker 3: What is the word to the pain to the pain,
That would be Rick Talkin's motto. To the pain.
Speaker 2: Without pain, there is no pleasure. This is a phrase
that can be used for hockey as well too, amongst
other things in life. Andrew, you're still young. You'll get
it eventually. Us old people, I'll get you.
Speaker 3: By the time you get us, we won't even be
around anyway.
Speaker 2: H Pres, what do you got up on wager talk?
Speaker 3: Well, I've started the NHL season oh and three and
I'm pretty bummed about it. I had two horrible losses
last night under six. Yes, Tim, Tim, the press sucks,
we know, blah blah blah blah blah. I'm actually going
to address all haters on the best betting show ever
later today. So Tim, Tim, check it out. I'll mention
you as well. So, yeah, what was I saying? I
got one? I was on the under in the Toronto
Maple Leaf game last night, two empty netters did me
in and I was on Edmonton in regulation, which is
insane that that play lost, But I mean, this is
just how it goes in hockey sometimes. I got one
NFL play up. I've won eight of my last nine
days of NFL betting, eight of my last nine. I'm
up twenty two units of profit already on the season
over sixty two percent, and I have won NHL play
And that's really it as far as the blue line goes.
There is no blue line this year or ever again,
likely because Matthew Barnaby took a full time job on
a network and just doesn't have the time to do
this for free. The bidding went like this, so that
you guys understand bid. We bidded zero dollars for Matthews
time and it left a huge hole in the market
for someone to outfit us.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it sounds like a pretty good bid competition there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we started with zero, we ended with zero, and
someone jumped in with like a six figure contract who were.
Speaker 2: Like, bye bye. I guess the Matthew will be around.
Speaker 3: He's going to be part of part of my show,
the best betting show ever every now and again.
Speaker 2: I guess he didn't figure the invaluable just having you
as a friend and having your knowledge.
Speaker 1: We're still friends.
Speaker 3: I appreciate you, carm We're still friends, all right.
Speaker 2: Pres thanks for coming in. Good luck with your NFL tonight,
and of course your NHL ended this season. It is
a marathon, not a sprint. You know that, Oh yeah,
better than anybody else. You've been in this industry forever.
So best of luck to you tonight and for the season. Andrew, Dude,
we're starting with this Jets Stars game. It is unbelievab
because when I was doing stats last night, Andrew, and
you're looking at the lines here, the Stars minus one fourteen,
the Jets one oh six minus one o six, the
totals at fifteen cents to the over. These teams played
ten times last year last season, including playoffs.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think, sorry, I didn't know you were done there.
You just gotta stopped talking. You're like, this team's played
this many times, Andrew.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say, I'm just gonna say something real quickly.
I'm just gonna say something. Whenever I get into like
an argument with my wife, this is my phrase. I go,
all right, I'm just gonna go mute. And then I
bought the fourth or fifth time I say, she goes,
Are you ever gonna follow up on just going mute
and keep it that way?
Speaker 1: So yeah, they whenever we threaten that, it usually doesn't
end up going very well. All right, So this is
the thing about this matchup here. Winnipeg was the top
ten team defensively as far as expected goals against in
twenty twenty four twenty twenty five. They had the MVP
of the league as their goalie. So you can kind
of look at it a couple different ways. How you
expect them to kind of roll out here in this matchup.
But when I look at it, is this the Dallas Stars.
They have now Miko Ranton in for quite some time,
not just for a tradeline acquisition, not just for a
few months. They've got this guy from the start of
the season and Karen. When I look at this roster now,
they sure they lost Logan stankovin, they lost maybe a
depth piece, and he's great, you know, he's a good
young player. But the Dallas Stars are in win now mode.
I was just talking with Prez saying that people weren't
happy it was Black and Panthers as the first game
of the whole entire NHL season. Well, I'm happy to
see these two teams going head to head for their
first games of the season. When I look at this one, car,
I like the road team. I lean towards the Dallas Stars.
You got a couple new pieces on this Winnipeg team.
You got a couple things to mention, and also last
year they did struggle a little bit out the gate
as far as their offensive ability is concerned. I think
the difference between these two teams is the offensive output.
We obviously know two good goaltenders, we obviously know good defense,
But when it comes to the offensive output, I feel
a bit more confident in the Dallas Stars. And of course,
looking at Odds logic right now and looking at at
the opening number and kind of where things have moved.
We have seen a little bit of love come in
on Dallas, but for the most part it has remained
to pick them. And if you take it into account
home ice advantage, I would kind of say that Dallas's
favorite here in this one. So I like the road team.
I think that out the gate, at least this team's
gonna have the cohesion, They're gonna have the depth. They're
going to be a little bit too deep. They're going
to come at the at the Jets in waves. You
have the MVP as your goalie for Winnipeg, and I
get that, but sometimes if your goalie wins the MVP,
and that's a big reason why you win a lot
of games, then you know, maybe he's not going to
bail you out as many times as he did last year.
And maybe that happens right out the gate here, karens
So I like the road team here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Andrew, it's not it's not hard not to like them,
or it's hard not to like them. You know, I'm
looking at the total here, you know, I mean early on,
it's tough with totals, and you know, you look at
these teams and there's no there, there's there's no strong
data to taking the first period over Under Winnipeg last year,
twenty four of forty one home games during the regular
season stayed under the and a half. But it was
like twenty six of Dallas's games went over the total,
and early on the Dallas Stars were scoring goals and
allowing goals. But it's hard to ignore the fact that
these teams played ten times last season for during the
regular season, five or six in the playoffs, and nine
of those games went under the total, and some of
those tolls were at five so nine to one. The
total here sits at what is it it's sitting Is
it a five or five and a half? I believe
it's at five and a half?
Speaker 1: Just five and a half just converted.
Speaker 2: Five and a half. Yeah, it's it's you know, we've
seen some scoring early on, We've seen some some games
where they've been just complete bum type of games, you know.
I mean, like you look at like the Bruins in Washington,
they're not much scoring there from Washington team that scored
a lot of goals. We look at that Pittsburgh New
York Rangers game that started out. It's just I can't
take the over in this game. I don't want to
take a side. The only way I can lean and
it's leaning with the numbers from last year as nine
to ten games went under the total. And I'll lean
to another one here Winnipeg getting maybe the getting to
win on whole ice in a low scoring affair anytime, Andrew, I'm.
Speaker 1: Here, it might be head to head here at this time.
But I'm going to ask you, do you think that
that does correlate like Ken, We saw Winnipeg get off
to a phenomenal start last year. Everybody remembers it. We
all remember the start that they have. But do you
think that this correlates to under like do you think
that for the most part, wins correlate to unders with
Winnipeg or do you trust them to win the track
meet against the Dallas Stars.
Speaker 2: I don't think they win the track meet against the
Dallas Stars. Dallas Stars proved last year that they could
score goals and they did a Winnipeg prove that they
could win those three two games. Unfortunately it didn't work
out for them in the playoffs. Then lose game six
in OT, uh two to one in OT against the Stars.
But you know, with that said, you know you've got
two very good goalies here, and you look at the
good goalies thus far this season, uh one game in
and it's only one game in. But you look at
a guy like Logan Thompson. He looked very good against
the Bruins. Jerry Swayman looked very good against Washington. So
Stuart Skinner didn't look as good on that third goal.
I think that's what pissed off the press last last night.
I don't know what Swayman was thinking, or sorry not Swayman.
I don't know what Skinner was thinking on that goal
that Calgary tied it.
Speaker 1: Up on controllers yeahs.
Speaker 2: Control, Yeah his controller did die uh to change the
batteries on that one. But you know, with that said,
I'm gonna give it to the goalie and gonna give
it to two teams that can play the and maybe
if you don't get any scoring in the first period,
or maybe just a goal, maybe they settle into it. It
could very well be one of those ones, Andrew that
you love to talk about where you get the first
period over and then the game stays under the total.
So that very well could happen here. I put this
game on the schedule because it is such a tough
one to pick and I wanted us to have, which
it looks like we do conflicting opinions on which way
it'll go, but we shall see. I'll go with you
like the stars. I'll go with three to one stars,
and we're both happy.
Speaker 1: Perfect. That works completely fine with me. A lot of
great comments coming in here, and people talking about the underdogs,
like if you've played every underdog so far, just especially
based on the numbers, you've definitely been able to make
some money so far. Everyone talking about some live bets,
looking at third period overs, all kinds of good stuff.
So yeah, I mean right now that the live chat
is bumping and people are fired up to have hockey back.
But we keep saying this every single day, and especially me,
but teams so far, guys that are bad quote unquote
don't know they're bad yet, So we just want to
say that, like, if you're looking at sometimes laying these
huge prices, you want to look towards the team total.
You want to look towards the regulation or puck line
or whatever it may be. I would honestly feel more
comfortable playing a minus two hundred in December than I
would in October, because you know, teams like Pittsburgh so
far they feel like they're just as good as anybody else.
But you wait till they go on a six game
losing streak, then things are a little bit different for
them as far as that's concerned.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, listen, one hundred percent. That's why I said
to people like and I think I referenced it with yesterday.
I said, don't just think that you can take the
Vegas Golden Knights, the Washington Capitals, and the Edmonton Oiters
and bundle of them into a partly because they're all
at pretty much at minus two hundred and think you're
getting plus money because one of them likely goes down. Now,
I did think it was going to be the Veiggest
Golden Knights that went down. I thought the La Kings
were a live dog and mentioned on yesterday show along
with the first period over both of those hit. The
Washington Capitals didn't. They got off to a slow start
in that one, and Pasta and Geeky the two guys
I talked about, Well other than these two guys, where
do they find the scoring? Well, Pasta and Geeky did
the scoring yesterday for the for the Bruins. So I
had I had the Washington regulation minus one thirty, I'd
much rather you don't want to lose, but rather much
rather lose Andrew with the minus one thirty than a
full game minus one eighty one ninety line speaking of
something in that range, Andrew, Carolina Hurricanes, is this we
ask it every season, kind of like Lee fans, this
is our season? Carolina Hurricanes, is this their season? Minus
one sixty four the Devils plus one thirty four, the
total five and a half shaded twenty cents to the over.
Are the Devils a live dog?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I think they are. Karm I think they are.
I think this Hurricanes team is a little bit overhyped.
This is a good team, but they haven't really seemed
to get too much better. People look at this roster
overall and you kind of ask, what they're gonna bring
on a year by year basis, and it seems like
a team that's built to get to the playoffs, but
not really do much once they do get to the playoffs. Here,
but New Jersey is healthy. New Jersey seems to be
a team that gets off to a good start. This
is a team I think when you look at their
expected goals against last season, I know we're gonna always
talk about the advanced metrics with Brian as well, so
I look forward to talking to him in a few moments.
But looking at some of these defensive numbers for the
Carolina Hurricanes, they ranked in the top ten as far
as expected goals against, but expected goals four for them,
you know they're a team that isn't nearly up there
as far as the top ranks are concerned. So Carolina, Edmonton, Florida, Dallas, Washington, Ding, Ding, Ding, Ding, Ding,
the New Jersey Devils, that team is right up there
on the whole entire calendar year twenty twenty four, twenty
twenty five in expected goals for. So maybe it is
an opportunity for a live dog on the New Jersey Devils.
Also could be a good opportunity for some props in
this game. Looking at some of these lineups here and honestly, Karen,
looking at this new line that I think is going
to be a pretty good one with Timo Meyer, Niko
Heisher and Dawson Mercer. A guy like Dawson Mercer anytime assists,
anytime point could be good because he's playing with two
skilled players like Hesher and Meyer. So I do think
it's a live dog opportunity with the Devils, and I
think that second line for the Devils is where you're
gonna find value on the props. First line with getting
Dadanov with Hughes and Bratt might be a little bit
too juicy on the point props. Anybody that plays with
Hughes to juicy second line with those guys with Mercer
with Timo Meyer could get some value on the player
props there with that. So yeah, I think this is
a live dogs bockharm but mostly a prop game for
me so far. What do you think? I mean? These
are two teams in the Metro that are good, but
the Metro overall wasn't nearly as good as other divisions
last year.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, Andrew, I'm gonna harp on it for
the first couple of weeks that season. I'm like the
old man yelling at the clouds that I'm taking a
cautious approach, but maybe with full game lines. But I'd
love to give on the show, especially when they win.
I love to give these first period plays on the show.
Now you look at the total here that you can't
play the total because there's no strong numbers for it.
The Devil's on the road last year to the under
or twenty five and fifteen forty games because they played
one overseas twenty five and fifteen to the under. The Canes, though,
we're twenty five and sixteen to the first period over
so they'll pretty much wipe each other out. I will
say this though, the Canes along with Colorado last year,
were the two worst teams at home in the opening
twenty minutes of the game. You look at last season,
Colorado was thirteen, seventeen and fourteen minus fourteen units if
you're betting them on the first period money line. The
Canes fifteen, fifteen and nineteen minus thirteen point eight units.
If you're betting them on the first period line. You
can get the Devils here first period at plus one
twenty one I'm seeing. I'm just seeing if there's any
other books that have a better price. The super book
in Vegas has one thirty long with Circa Fandelas one
twenty six. But get in, get out, and hopefully get
a winner. So I'm going to take the New Jersey
Devils first period to get the job done. If it's
tight at the end of the thirty twenty minutes, then
hell it's a push. But that's I'm taking the Devils here.
Speaker 1: Andrew Krm, you had a good read on that trend
all year long. Last year we were making jokes between
my first period overs with your first period side bets.
It's almost like you and I just didn't want to
watch some of these teams for a full sixty minutes.
We just wanted to watch twenty minutes the first period,
move on to another game, and well, with how big
the slate is tonight, KRM, I wouldn't blame you if
you wanted to watch just one game for twenty minutes
and then move on to another one as well. So
nice plus price there on that one. In the first period.
I'll look towards probably some props. I'm not sure if
the Devils will make my card, but I do think
they could be a live dog. And everyone's talking in
the live chat about Eelers Eelers moves from Winnipeg to Carolina. Karen,
we always know this man. A new player doesn't always
fit in right away. They don't always fit in right
away to and always work out immediately for a new team.
It worked out for one team we're gonna mention later
on in the show with their new player last night.
But it doesn't always work out right away.
Speaker 2: It depends. It's it's apples and oranges. But yes, if
you're counting, and this is why I say it's a
it's an eighty two game season. If you're counting early
on in the season, you could say, well, the Leafs
are one and oh with out Mitch Marner, and the
Vegas Golden Knights are oh and one with Mitch Marner.
Come on, man, it is absolutely ridiculous. But you and
I are going to talk about the Vegas, Vegas and
the Sharks, and we're hoping this guy will hang around
after he does the Anaheim Seattle game to give us
his thoughts on Vegas and the Sharks as well too,
because I have some questions for him on that game
tonight and a couple questions on last nights. But let's
bring him in man, Brian Leonard. He is like a
breath of fresh air each and every day. God that
hair you and Andrew with the hair man, it's just
pissing me off.
Speaker 1: Brian. Donate the car he needs it, man, just give
some gifts on it.
Speaker 2: God bless you man, Brian. I hope you're doing well.
We'll talk a little earlier after this game. But I
am in Seattle, new coach in Ana, I am, of
course with Joel Quinnville. Does that factor into your handicap
on this game? Not really.
Speaker 4: We did see some new coaches come out yesterday and
have some success. The reason why I chose this game
is I really don't like the Cracking this year. I
think that I've got the crack and rated as probably
the third worst team in hockey behind San Jose and Chicago.
Why are they favored? H You know, I know the
Dutch were a popular play this year. A lot of
people like them. They they performed very well last year
and had a lot of success. They're a very young team.
But why is Seattle favored in this game? I think
that I think the wrong team is favored. Anaheim's done
very well in their opening games overall, so we'll see
how that goes. But there's a few games on schedule
where I think there's some live dogs, and you mentioned
the Dogs having success so far, and we had Pittsburgh
the first game on opening day. I like Chicago in
the second day, and you know, yesterday we had the
La Kings. Unfortunately, the Golden Knights scored a little bit
more than I thought they would. I thought it would
be a lower scoring game. You guys didn't. I watched
the show yesterday and you both thought it'd be some
some scoring in that one. But I like anaheimy or
I think they're the better team. I think it's along
going to be a long season for Seattle, and a
lot of the guys other than our handicappers on this
show that I follow, agree with me that they think
Seattle is.
Speaker 2: An overrated team.
Speaker 4: And so anytime I can get the better team at
plus money, that's the way I'm looking forward. And right now,
as was mentioned, the Dogs have gotten off to a
good start, and it's something that I think happens every.
Speaker 2: Year because you get a team.
Speaker 4: You mentioned Pittsburgh Chicago gave Florida a really good good run.
You mentioned the teams that everybody's talked about are gonna
be terrible, like the Penguins.
Speaker 2: They think the Penguins are gonna be.
Speaker 4: Terrible, and they heard that all off season. Well, they've
got something. They've got a chip on their shoulder the
entire time, and now they get out there to play.
I think these teams in the first couple of weeks
of the season are really good betting opportunities, teams that
did not look good last year.
Speaker 2: And yeah, we're gonna go with Anaheim in this one.
Speaker 1: Brian, You're right, they're a popular team coming into this season.
But like you said, this matchup it really kind of
confuses me as far as the price, because I think
it's just a tale of two different teams, you know,
a team on the uprise and a team going down.
The NHL put out their list of the average age
like the youngest and oldest teams the day, and I
know that you don't want to have probably the youngest
team in the league, but you don't want to have
the oldest team either, And this Anaheim team has a
lot of youths. So going into this year, I'll be
looking to back a lot of overs on team totals
and things like that, maybe full game overs. They have
a good goalie in Anaheim, but they give up a
lot of chances, but they score as well. The good
news is, I don't think you have to worry about
that much with Seattle because they don't create a hell
of a lot of chances either. So I really like
that one. Brian coming at us with a pick one
of the last games of the night, guys ten ten
Eastern Time. Looking at Anaheim Live Duck, Brian, we know
we expect nothing less out of you, by the way,
to come on with an underdog for your first play
for the brand new season. We needed that, a nice
little live dog, and I think it's a good spot
for the Anaheim Ducks. By the way. You're welcome on
the jays Bandwagen whenever you want. Don't listen to pres
if you trash them earlier. I got a short memory.
I don't even know what I had for breakfast yesterday
or breakfast this morning. I should say, you know what,
you can come on. I don't even I didn't hear
a thing about what you said. You're always welcome on
the Blue Jays bandwagon, by the way, you're.
Speaker 2: Always honestly, I think it was Brian Power. Brian Power
talked about the Blue Jays bullpen being absolutely abysmal, that
they were overrated, and then I I fought back with
him a little later on he said he was going
to single Canada on his Power five to make up
for it, which he never did. But with that said, yeah,
we sent the Yankees to a Rubar or Kankun or
wherever they go. But it it happened, and we'll we'll well,
we'll see what the next one, Brian, I got to
ask you two questions. Obviously, the second one will be
the Vegas game tonight against the Sharks, But the first
one is, you know, you look at them. You look
at some of the postgame reactions of the Vegas game
last night, and I don't get the fan base. They
can't be fans. Guys are like Aiden Hill needs to
be on the next bus out of town. Aiden Hill.
This Aiden Hill. This is the guy who won like
fifty something games or last year and had his best
goals against average.
Speaker 4: I I don't understand any fan that down plays their
team after one game. I watched the game with my
wife who fell behind Vegas fell behind two nothing, and
granted I had la I didn't want to tell her,
but I said, don't start. It's the first game. Come
on now, I said, the guy's been terrific for us
the entire time. It's but I don't understand or where
Pres is talking about. I wasn't a big fan of
the Toronto pitching staff, but I had five percent play
yesterday on Toronto.
Speaker 2: Let's go.
Speaker 4: And you know, for for a guy who names his
show the greatest sports betting show ever, you think he
exaggerates a little bit. I don't know how the greatest
betting show ever could ever have Pres on, unless Pres
is the one that came up with that total or
the title of the show. I joke with Pres, but
I'm a little upset the press got to come on
first and I got to be the backup. I'm I'm
a little upset about that.
Speaker 1: That might, honestly be the best answer you could have
given to that. Well, let me Brian play on the
blue Jays after that statement. That is that's a mic
drop right there.
Speaker 4: That is awesome the blue Jays For so long, like
you said, he hasn't been showing me since before baseball season.
That's like nine months ago. That tells you how often
Press wants me on the show with him. Yeah, let
me let me tell you, Brian. It is like you
go for an absolutely terrible dinner, but the dessert is
the best part of the dinner. That's why you are on.
Speaker 2: After the Press.
Speaker 1: Ryan, You're dessert. You're the dessert of the.
Speaker 2: I'm just sweet. That's only That's all I say.
Speaker 1: Wow, that analogy could have been used, Yes, yes, it
could have.
Speaker 2: Tonight they play the Sharks. Good bounce back spot for them.
I believe it is.
Speaker 4: And one of the things a lot of people look
at will be a team playing the second game and
they freak out about it, Like the Kings. The Kings
diad on look good in their first game, and they
came out they had a game under the belt already.
The coach of the Golden Knights said, he goes, see,
you know what, They've got the advantage on us. They've
already gone out and played a game with full practice
from all the players. Yeah, teams playing the second game
of back to back early in the season do not
bother me at all, and we get better spreads on that.
We're getting what I consider the best team playing today
against one of the worst teams playing today, and you're
laying really less than two dollars on the road off
of a game in which they had a five to
three lead and blew it. Growing the fact that Vegas
has never lost a game in regulation in San Jose,
I believe that, like fourteen two, and also throwing the
fact that as much as I like the young players
for San Jose, they're still not going to be a
good team. Their young players are great. It's like it's
like Anaheim. I really like their young players, but they
beat up on Vegas every year in the preseason. I
believe they played them two or three times this year.
I'm not sure Vegas got a single win against them,
but San Jose beats him up in the preseason, and
then when the games actually count, Vegas crushes them. You know,
I don't like to lay big numbers, although I did
last night on on Edmonton and I did lose that
luckily it was a small play. But the only way
to look in this game is for Vegas to come
out and in considering they didn't get really anything out
of their Marner line on the on the power plays
and stop Doorvi. The year, Diorviev scored three goals, including
a power play goal. I think Vegas talent wise, this
is a much deeper team than what they have had
in the past.
Speaker 2: You've got guys on a.
Speaker 4: Third and fourth line that can score, and last year
they didn't have that. This is a team that's one
of the top three teams in hockey, and off of
a loss playing against a team they dominate during the
regular season, you know this is a good bet.
Speaker 2: Even though you're.
Speaker 4: Laying close to two dollars, I still think Vegas.
Speaker 2: Is a very good bet tonight. All right, guys, that's
Brian Leonard Waiter Talk. Brian. Yeah, and Iicel got the bag.
He got his bag of money, So positive times in
Vegas ahead, Brian. What do you have up at wager talk? Actually,
I did the Baseball Show. I don't like either one
of these games today, so I'm going to pass.
Speaker 4: I gave out a college football play for five dollars
the other day, and I took it down right after.
That's what I've been doing every week to give those
people that bought it early the only chance to get it.
So I do have a game today, But If you
missed it, it's gone. I don't have anything else up.
I don't like the football game today, but I really
do like this card in hockey. As soon as I'm
done today, I will put those plays up. And as
we know, I've been around for eleven years, the most
profit in NHL hockey and Major League Baseball over that time.
So excited about the season, and we haven't had anything
bigger than a one and a half star play so far.
So I'm looking for a bigger play, at least one
on today's card, and that'll be up in the next hour.
Speaker 2: So all right, Brian, I appreciate you coming on, and
we're going to see plenty of you this season long.
Brian's like happy hour. If you miss it, it's gone.
That's you're above. So thanks for coming on, and we'll
see you next week when we have full slates. Andrew,
we still have to discuss this game Vegas and the Sharks,
you know, And I was gonna mention it to Brian.
It's so far removed from that playoff game where that
five minute penalty and the Sharks score like four power
play goals and eventually beat the Vegas Golden Knights. Chip
is on their shoulder and it's never left. And he
mentioned it fourteen zero in two against the Sharks. I
believe in Santos eight. That's not a bad record.
Speaker 1: Darm They've dominated this Sharks team. This is the thing, though,
is the whole point is when I'm looking at this
number here, and Brian mentioned it is do you want
to lay this price? And I think in this matchup
off a loss, maybe it can be a little bit
intriguing here. I don't know if I want to look
at this number early on. I mean, based on the
underdogs that we have seen cash so far this season. Guys,
do you want to lay a favorite like this so far?
I'll tell you what. Yesterday Vegas game versus La, I
had a four to oh sweep with clients want to
zero in the first period over and then we had
a handful of player props. This matchup seems no different
as far as the player props that we can capitalize. Dan,
if you have the pictures there, you can up for me.
We'll start with the Vegas team. I want to just
look at these lines, Barbashev, Eichel, Marner, Riley Smith, Carlston,
mark Stone. But that third line of Brandon Sad, Thomas
Hurdle and Pavel D'orfeyev. Pavel do'rifeyev is minus one twenty
guys again tonight to get a point. Okay, well I
shouldn't say again tonight because yesterday he was minus one
oh five. The guy got a hat trick. The guy
got a hat trick yesterday, and he's minus one twenty
just to get one singular point. To me, that's something
that I think I want to run back. Looking at
Dori Fayev, I'll tell you what as well, we're talking
about when it's worth it to lay juice. Here's a
prop that I'm probably gonna be on, and you guys
might think this is too juicy. Last night I played
this at minus one forty five and it cashed easily
because he got multiple assists. Mitch Marner to get an
assist is minus one five one sixty. That's worth it
to me if you combo Jack Eicel goal Mitch Marner
assists or Marner Goald Jack Eiicle assists, I think both
those guys to get a point. Even putting those two
guys together is a pretty good bet to look at now,
just really quickly looking at San Jose. We know how good,
uh the the San Jose Sharks young players are. But
the good news about a really bad team and the
good news about a team that's still kind of getting
up in the rankings right now is you get value
when it comes to the player props. So one I
want to look at is Tyler to Foley. This guy
is like the dad of the team. He really is.
He's on the right wing, second line playing with Wenberg
and Ecklund. He's out there on the power play as well,
and you're getting minus one twenty five. This guy is
the veteran of the team. He's probably someone to look
for to get going, to score, to get production early
on in the season. I think Tyler to Foley at
minus one twenty five is a pretty pretty good prop
bet to look at. And then if you look at
some goal scorers as well, caarm I'll just give one
out that I kind of like in this game tonight,
and that's gonna be Will Smith at plus two seventy five.
Everyone talks about maclin celebrainy, but you got to talk
about Will Smith as well, the fresh prince of San Jose.
He's pretty good and everyone talks about his running mate
CELEBRAINI but Will Smith is just as good. Plus two
seventy five a very good prop game, I would say
in this one San Jose and Vegas.
Speaker 2: Yep, keep my wife's name out of your mouth. Andrew, Oh,
that's the Will Smith line in case.
Speaker 1: Keep my wife's name. Yeah.
Speaker 2: But uh, I'm gonna go for the plus money here.
I'm gonna go Vegas buck line. It's just a good
bounce back spot, I think. And then you look at
the last four games they played in San Jose that
were not preseason games, a regular season games four one, six,
three four, and for nothing, they have covered the puck
line of their last four regular season games in San Jose.
They make it five tonight, we score some plus money
and we move on to the weekend of NHL. So
I will take the puck line. Andrew, what are your
thoughts on that?
Speaker 1: I don't know, Karma. I want to see your new tattoo. Apparently, no,
it is.
Speaker 2: It's actually not me that as a tattoo. I do
have one on my arm here, which is the honor
my parents who have both passed away from cancer. But
it was this past week and I was downtown while
the Blue Jays were playing and NFL football was on
on Sunday, and my wife was getting a tattoo. She
was in the chair for six hours, and there just
happened to be a Gabby's bar just below it and
with a lot of Blue Jays and Yankees fans, and
then made it over to where the game was. So
I had a great time downtown while she was in
pain for six hours.
Speaker 1: So he's got an Eagle's logo on his ass according today,
and please, whatever you do, please don't put that on
the screen. Karen brings up the puck line, and yeah,
I think the puck line is a pretty good bet
for this one. All right, guys, only probably a couple
more minutes left on the show. We have a couple
of questions saved, but just really quick, anybody watching live
on x or on YouTube, give us any questions, Any
games you want to talk about. Is a ton of
games on the slate, any player props, anything you want
to mention leg show magazine. Not a bad price there,
he says. How about Vegas minus a half goal first
period plus one forty. I cash that yesterday at plus
one thirty with the Edmonton Oilers. I kind of lean
that in this one here, I think that they're going
to be motivated, They're not going to be happy with
the defensive effort. But sometimes when a good team plays
a quote unquote bad team, karm to your point, with
the full game puck line, I would almost prefer for
them to have the full sixty minutes to win by two,
then to have twenty minutes to win by win period.
Give it the full game, I.
Speaker 2: Think one hundred percent. I think over the course of
sixty minutes, if your lines are all are all great
and you put up that great image there with the
lines that the Vegas Golden Knights, I roll out those lines,
dominate to win those second and third line matchups and
score some goals and roll with it. Sometimes it doesn't
happen in the first period, so we'll see if it
happens in the second or third. But that's where I'm
looking at. As far as as far as that one
goes Andrew, I think, ARM, what's that nights. Yeah, it's
a it's a lower price. If you don't want to
lay the the minus one ninety to two hundred, then
that is also another option that you can take. I
like them in this spot I think they bounce back again.
We're so early into the season, we don't know how
some teams are going to perform. But we know that
the teams that are sort of in the upper echelon
andrew of the NHL, that they're going to win more
games obviously than they lose, and hopefully they do it
early on. Some teams tend to struggle. I talked about
the Edmonton Oilers yesterday very quickly, the fact that they
started zero and three last season, and they started one
in six the previous season. Yesterday, they played a great game.
They shouldn't have lost. It was one bad mental error
by Stuart Skinner unfortunately that led to the three to
three goal. And then once it goes to ot and
it goes to a shootout, it is a coin flip
at that.
Speaker 1: Point, rapid fire. We'll go through a couple questions here, Russell,
thanks for the nice words about the new late night show.
New Show Guys, ten pm Eastern each night. Karm joined
me on the first night. Karen was Sullivan. The problem
with the Pens. It sure looked like it against the
Rangers just one game. We all know that, but they
look pretty flat, man. They did look pretty flat. What
do you think the Rangers bounce backcarme tonight?
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Rangers, listen, it's it Andrew. I don't even
know if they're gonna bounce back tonight. I'll be honest
with you. They're gonna have to buy into like his system.
I think last year they were top five in shots
allowed last season, which is not a good thing. As
good as Sirsterkin is, you cannot allow teams to pepper
your goalie because at some point those are gonna go in,
and whether it's your stirkin or whether it's your backup
in there, it is a bad thing to do all
season long and tough to overcome. He's trying to keep
this team playing a more of a defensive game, and
they did it in Game one. The only problem is
they sacrificed the offense and the offense really didn't click
at all. They didn't score. They only lose that game
one nothing. But can they bounce back today, I'm not
really sure. The Sabers. The Sabers are a just a
wild card of a team. They come with a ton
of energy, they play an offensive game, and it remains
to be seen. Tonight. I think we see some goals
in that game tonight between the Rangers and the Sabers,
and I think the Sabers are going to draw the
Rangers into their type of game instead of the other
way around.
Speaker 1: Arm shots on goal props here looking at the comments,
we want some shots on goalprops that of you. Russell's
dapping you off p showing you love here with your
shots on goal props over the years, anything that youth
that sticks out to you, anyone that you thought and
if not, maybe any any team or player tonight that
could be good to look at.
Speaker 2: I think we got to lay three and a half.
I'm not sure Andrew, you might be able to bring
it up, but in this game with the Sabers and
the and the New York Rangers. I like Tage Thompson
shot props. He's had some very good games against the
New York Rangers, and I can just see that continuing tonight.
I'm just bringing it up quickly as we go because
we're running a little late on the show as well too.
But Tage Thompson is over three and a half plus
one thirty. I'll take the plus money there and look
for Tage to get four tonight against against this Rangers team, right,
why not?
Speaker 1: It's never been the defense that's been wrong or the
offense that's been wrong. With the Sabers karm, we all
know it's never been the offense. It's the defense. So
they could be a really good team for shot props,
for point props and all that good stuff. Wolf wolf
Eyes Gaming TV talk about Tampa Bay versus Senators. I'll
just throw this out there. Not sure if it'll be
a client play. It may be a client play. Minus
one oh five guys, team total over three and a half.
You guys know, last year I started doing the team
totals and I never looked back. I love this minus
one oh five price range. It might have moved overnight.
I have not checked it full transparency over this morning,
but over three and a half against the Senators. Sends
are a good team. You know, they do rely on goaltending,
though they do have some shaky defense. And I think
Tampa is well rested and they're coming for They're coming
for the Atlantic Division this year. They want it. They
want to prove to people they're still a great team,
and with Florida being as injured as they are, I
think they're going to dominate this Atlantic Division, So I
think over three and a half first game of the
season for both these teams, I feel like Tampa Bay
that's the best way to go for them, all right,
carm I like this one. Goose says, I've bet all
six dogs this year and have gone four and two. Well,
congrats on that number one. Let me know how that
goes tonight after playing every dog tonight on this massive
slate and really quick I saw this question before Christian
deavorak for Andrew. Can can I spend a moment speaking
about his impression on what he will bring? Look, what
he's gonna bring is defensive zone faceoffs, defensive zone coverage,
penalty killing time, and he will give you the odd goal.
What he's going to bring, I'm guessing you're asking this
because you're a Philadelphia Flyers fan. He's going to bring stability.
That's what he's going to bring. Is going to bring reliability.
He's a veteran that's not going to get you out
of your seat, not going to make a bunch of
fancy plays, but he's going to be very reliable. All right, Carl,
that's probably it here. So we've been asking Brian and
we've been asking pres and talking to the audience, what
do you have up for clients? Best bet everything going on?
You've you've got some soccer action. I believe you're doing
well with football again this year. And it's obviously a
huge slate tonight in the NHL.
Speaker 2: Yeah, NFL and NFL and NHL are going to be
loaded after the show. I've already got the plays, just
finishing up the write ups right after the show. Two
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that's it for me, Andrew, Let's know what you have
up and close it out.
Speaker 1: Karm, multiple sports going for you right now. I would say,
if people want to get in on Karm's action, probably
by a week pass, maybe longer, you know, one month pass,
all kinds of sports going for Karm right now. You
guys know that I've just been diving deep into the NHL.
Yesterday we went seven and three, seven and three, only
a handful of games on board. Last year, I barely
did any props. Guys, I kind of just set I'm
not going to do it with clients this year. This year,
I'm all in. Here's the rule. Every single prop bet
I give out zero point five percent a half a percent.
At wager talk yesterday seven and three, we hit the
first period over in the LA game. We cash a
ticket of course on the Edmonton Oilers first period minus
a half goal. So a lot of nice plus money
there with those games, and a lot of great success
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I will see you tonight at ten pm Eastern talking
about tomorrow's games. And I also have I can't believe
I'm doing this. I have a Leaf's podcaster and a
Leaf's guest coming on to talk all things maple Leafs.
I can't believe I'm doing that, karm But thank you
for watching, guys. A lot of fun. As always, Carmine
at wager Talk, myself at wager Talk, thanks to pres
thanks to Brian, and as always a thanks to Dan
behind the scenes. We'll see you guys tomorrow, same time,
same place.
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