Speaker 1: If you want to support the show and get the
episodes early and ad free, head on over to Freeman
Beyond the Wall dot com, forward slash Support. There's a
few ways you can support me there. One there's a
direct link to my website. Two, there's a subscribe star.
Three there's Patreon. Four there's substack. And now I've introduced
gum Road because I know that a lot of our
guys were on road and they are again censorship. So
if you head over to gum Road and you subscribe
through there, you'll get the episodes early and ad free,
and you'll get an invite into the Telegram group. So
I really appreciate all the support everyone's giving me, and
I hope to expand the show even more than it
already has.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much.
Speaker 1: I want to welcome everyone back to the Pecanana Show.
Dark Enlightenment Returns. Seems like I talked to you a
couple of weeks ago and I don't know something happened.
Speaker 2: What's going on?
Speaker 1: Man?
Speaker 2: Yeah, the optics faeries got to it.
Speaker 1: Well for good reason, Yeah, for reason that we can excuse.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well no, that's okay. I mean I wouldn't be
here if I wasn't generally and capable of keeping my
mouth shut. So I suppose it's good for you folks
that are out there and that are entertained, but sometimes
it's not a prudent thing. So but I'm doing all right,
and the innovating time has given me some time to
reflect and it's not quite in the news so much
right now. But I know that there are a lot
of you know, pro lifers out there who are you know,
sour on Trump, and where I live, it doesn't matter.
He's going to win by sixty seventy percent no matter what.
So I am free to vote third party and I'll find,
you know, if the Constitution Party or American Freedom Party
or on the ballot, I'll vote for them. And the
thing that people need to understand is this is all
about power, and you can't build a pro life culture
where abortion isn't the thing until you're willing to use
power to make it happen. And that was like I
sent you know, if you want me to dial down,
you know our previous discussion pro lifers, I love you,
I'm one of you. I've done the whole stand in
front of the abortion clinic for with the rosary for
hours on end in the snow and in this in
spring time. And I've participated in forty Days for Life
in multiple states. I've was been the Pro Life club
in college. You know, I've done the bit. I know
people that, you know, we're part of Operation Rescue. I
wasn't quite old enough myself, but I know people that were,
you know, veterans of it. I had people that lost everything.
And until you're willing to use power to make it
happen so that pro life becomes policy, you're going to lose.
This is not you know, Operation Rescue is great. Error
was in thinking that that you were this was a
civil rights movement. You know, you can link arms and
stand in front of the abortion clinics and seeing we
shall overcome and justice will fall like rain and all
the babies will be And that's just not the truth.
The truth is the Jews wanted the civil rights movement,
so they got it, and the Jews want abortion, so
they got it. You know, I have my differences with
the Michael Jones, but when he says that you know,
this is all about, you know, a fundamental Jewish value
of abortion, He's right. The people that brought us abortion
the people who bought us contraception, the people that bought
us pornography are all Jewish. So when you say it's
not a part of our Judaeo Christian values to have
abortion in this country, it's like, hold on, these are
these are antonyms. They cannot be the same thing. Judeo
Christian is a fake, made up term that doesn't really
mean anything.
Speaker 1: It's supposed war consensus term. Yeah, you're not going to
find that. Yeah, like Christianity the Second World War.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what it is is a a Nurmberg regime approved
termed to denote that your Christianity is so toothless that
you'll accept the constraints put on you. That's what it means.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I was having a conversations with a conversation with
my wife and a friend today and you know, I
basically I've gotten so frustrated with Christianity in general. I've like,
you know, you're you're driving me away from this. And
there's a reason why there have been long stretches in
my life that I've stopped going to church because I can't.
I can't stand to be around because we're supposed to
come together as the body of Christ, and I don't
want to be people. These people want to be martyrs,
and they want to die, and they want their kids
to die. They want their kids to be raped, they
want their kids to be you know, destroyed and cut
up in the streets, and they somehow think that that
something good. You know. You look at the the way
Christians are reacting to like Springfield, Springfield, Ohio, or Albertville, Alabama,
and you know you would think that.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know what what I think when I
say see that is I think of a book that
I read on my show earlier this year called Campa the.
Speaker 2: Saints mm hm.
Speaker 1: And these are not These are people who are not compatible.
You know, I've said this before as much as weak
you know, as much as we say, you know, Mexicans
have to go back. You can talk to a Mexican,
you can you can tell a Mexican turn the music
down and they'll listen.
Speaker 2: To you, because there there's.
Speaker 1: Something somewhat of the same, somewhat of a of a
sliver of a cultural Yeah, there's sixty percent Spaniards, So
there's enough there that you can be like, hey, but
you don't know unless you've the around Haitians, you don't
know what the hell's going on here? And I lived
in South Florida for nineteen fucking years and they're everywhere. Well,
you don't go near these people, right, Well, and what
do the Dominicans think? Oh, they shoot on site. Right.
Speaker 2: The only reason there's the only reason there's anyone on
Haiti left at all is the Dominicans know that if
they just went full of ham and retook their entire
island and drove the Haitians into the sea, that the
US Marines would show up and killed them. And the
Dominican Republic's like chief act support is baseball players. This
is not you know, I mean right, this is not
a you know, particularly there. What did I what did
I call them? On? Thought grooms? He did it? We
a lot of white supremacists. But these are not people
that are you know, quite but there are dead chickens
that have been sacrificed to Satan all around Highley of Florida.
Don't go to.
Speaker 1: Well that that's even another group. That's that's the Cubans
that are into Sans area too. So, I mean, South
Florida really is a cursed place. I was in South
Florida last not this past week, but the previous week,
it's cursed. Yeah, so you get in there and you
and you want to get out as soon as possible. Well,
because because they've got demons everywhere. And this is the
this is the error that pro lifers make. I suppose
we should rather than you know, we're twenty minutes into
the call here, but we're specifically trying to talk about
the abortion pro life anti abortion pro life movement in
the context of the current political thing, and they're just
wrong about everything. If their idea of every human being
is equal, and that everyone is you know, if they
just get baptized, they'll all be upper middle class white Christians.
Speaker 2: Is not true. There are such things as generational spirits,
and that there is such a thing as being too
dumb to grasp the creed. And Haitians will tell you
they're Catholic on Sunday morning and go to Mass, and
then they'll go home and sacrifice the chicken or your
cat to a demon. And so the people that want
to pretend, oh, these people are Catholics there they're revitalized
in our churches, but they're not. They're there too grift
off of you. They're there to steal. There's no way
the pro life movement can get anywhere when you're more
concerned with building a society where every baby is valued,
and that means that you work really, really really hard
to help people, to help your enemies, and you don't
do anything for your friends, which is what the pro
life movement has done for the last thirty years. Well,
we got to help all these single moms. Why are
they the sort of people that go to church and
or conservative or are they going to be you know,
on the public fisk their entire lives, that they're going
to be public charges their entire lives. Are they going
to stop behave in such way as to be a
drained on the public fisk and lower the tone of society? No, well,
the abortion movement is racist. Mari were saying he was
a racist. Well, yeah, she was. Was she wrong? That's
the question you have to ask yourself pro life movement.
Donald Trump is a very flawed man. There's a lot
about him I don't like and I probably won't vote for.
But if you think that Kamala Harris, who's probably had
multiple abortions, let's be honest, you know, isn't going to
throw all of you in jail. David Deli Addin, the
guy who proved that they're selling baby parts in California.
Kamala Harris was ag when he was hemmed up. She
tried to throw him in jail. Do you think that
you know her? The people who are saying Kamala is brat,
who do you think that's aimed at childless millennials, women
of which there's an extremely large contingent, who are fanatics,
demonically fanatical pro abortion people. You think empowering them is
going to be good? Who do you know? The bike
Biden regime went to pro lifers houses with guns and
woke people up at you know, four in the morning,
raiding their house. Do you not remember that? Am I
the only one that remembers that, you know, the safe
safe access to clinics acts or whatever it was, where
the one gentleman, the prolo activist of you know, eight
Kids or whatever. Some dude who you know assaulted his son,
so he pushed him out of the way, and all
of a sudden he's he's violating the same act. So
we got to show up at his house and the
wee morning ours with you know, eight FBI agents with guns,
scariest kids half to death, drag him off off the jail,
put him through a trial. I think he got ac
quit and thank god. But you know, and when when
you win, you know, don Donald Trump gave us the
one thing that we we needed. That is the federal
Leviathan is no longer involved in abortion, thank god. So
now there's fifty different states that can all have their
own policies. And the amount of pressure you would need
to fix things in California or Illinois or whatever is
so immense that it's never gonna happen. But you can
make Mississippi and Alabama and Idaho pro life. So do that.
And the fact that the pro life movement didn't have
fifty state operations ready to go with funding and people
is an indictment of the pro life movement. You got
what she wanted. For fifty years you've been saying Roe v.
Wade has to go. Well it went. It was a
bad law, it was stupid, it was poorly written, it
was it engendered all kinds of ridiculousness from the federal bench.
I mean, any of you actually read Planned Parent would
be casey. It's all you know, emanations and put numbers.
It's it's wu talk fit for like a horoscope rereading
that was issued from the federal bench. So we got
what we wanted, and then you proceeded to rack up
L after L after L because you refuse to deal
with the reality of Americans aren't very philosophically inclined, and
most people don't think very hard, so they're they're kind
of icked out by like the idea of a six
months pregnant woman getting an abortion, but a three month
woman getting The three months pregnant woman getting an abortion
is like, well, you know, how can you tell And
instead of saying, okay, well we'll get a you know,
twelve week ban in place across every state and then
work on everything else, we'll work on changing the culture
so that people can get married and have kids and
have jobs. I can tell you what where people aren't
gonna have kids. Where people are gonna have more abortions Silicog,
Alabama and Springfield, Ohio, because they're gonna look at their
car entrance bill that went up by three hundred percent
and they're gonna go I can't afford anything. You know,
most people aren't aren't ideologically Christian. They don't show up
to church every Sunday, and no matter what. They're kind
of culturally Christian and a little bit indifferent. And if
you want them to live in such a ways is
that they don't do things like murder babies. You're gonna
have to provide them with some incentives to actually get
themselves back to church and not destroy their society. You
have to get some clerics out there that say, you
know what, this is a white country and white people
deserve to have a country of their own. And having
a constant stream of racial strangers and foreigners who aren't
assimilated to our Republican way of life small our Republican
way of life is a net draining on us and
we should not have to pay for it. But no,
you know, my answers have been here three hundred years,
and I'm supposed to just be like, oh, okay, someone
who just got off the boat from Africa's just as
much as American as me. Nonsense.
Speaker 1: The one thing that I did I did find out
today is that yeah, you know who you know who
is having a baby boom, every Haitian woman in Springfield, Ohio.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So twenty thousand becomes you know, thirty thousand and
forty thousand really quick and yeah, what do you do?
Speaker 2: What do you?
Speaker 1: What do you do?
Speaker 2: You?
Speaker 1: You you love your you know, you love your neighbor.
You forgive your enemies. Yeah, there is such a thing,
you know. Augustine wrote about just war theory, and Augustine
believed that the reason to go to war was to win.
Peace is Springfield, Ohio and peace at peace right now?
Speaker 2: No, no, and uh, you know, God forgive me for this.
But the guy who you know, whose son, guy who
I wish my kind of son had been killed by
a six year old white man, well wearing a sports
cap of you know, the of a.
Speaker 1: Team he and his wife. He and his wife are
teachers at the local school.
Speaker 2: Yep, yeah, okay, well yeah he might he might want that,
but uh, in my opinion, he's too fat. And I
mean any man that would wear a baseball cap inside
of a team of basketball American ball, you know, after
your son had been killed by one like, you're not saligable.
You don't get this. You might not care about your
kid dying. I care about my kids dying, and I
care about the kids people I care about dying, So
you don't get to make that assessment for me. I
care about little old ladies. And in fact, I'm gonna
stay here that I care more about thekids in your
community than you do. Not often I can say that,
but for one hundred percent, care more about the kids
in Springfield, Ohio that went to his son's elementary school
than he does because he doesn't want them to be safe,
and I do.
Speaker 1: The When you think about the abortion thing, it's the
whole abortion history in this country, especially since Roe.
Speaker 2: You you're.
Speaker 1: You're not taking into account the fact that, well, it
took the courts to overturn it, what fifty years later,
when if every Christian in this country would have said no.
I mean, I'm an elitist, I'm an elite theorist, but
I understand what happens when an overwhelming majority of the
population says no, and says no continuously. I mean, I
know for a fact, I've seen in my life church
going people who go every Sunday as soon as their
daughter got knocked up, taken them to the abortion clinic.
Of course I've seen it. Yeah, this is not me
making this up. I can give you the names, but
I'm not going to because you know, why would I
do that? And plus I can't I don't want a
suit just for because everything's solicitious.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the problem is you have to deal with reality
as it is. Right to me. The only reason I'm
still a Christian is I believe that Jesus is the
god of the copy bookarangs as well as you know,
everything else that he is. And when he said I'm
the way of the truth in life, he meant everything
that's true is somehow contained in him. Because if we
can't be honest about the fact that I don't know,
fifty percent approximately what is it, forty six percent of
black women have hurt be simple say or whatever whatever
that's sexually transmitted.
Speaker 1: One is, yeah, it's it's it's it's Friday fifty percent.
I mean it's it's insane.
Speaker 2: Right, So you can't make that population like sexually continent
enough to not need abortion or starving to death, like
even you know, in Europe at the height of Christendom,
women left their babies exposed because they were starving. That's
that's one of the things that monasteries did, is you know,
taking foundlings and they'd adopt them and they'd become brothers.
So and so who didn't have who never got married
and never had kids, but was nonetheless allowed to live.
You know, single mothers in Christendom would give the baby up,
the baby be born, you know, weaned live in a monastery,
become a you know, brother so and so, and the
mother would would take vows and become a nun, right,
and so those people wouldn't be and a lot of
the time, you know, babies starved to death. And this
is something that's awful and I don't like it, but
that's nevertheless what happened. And people would would have kids
and those kids would die. But the church's teaching on
abortion doesn't, like, all of a sudden make people, you know,
stap oh, we teach this and all of a sudden
people you know, like fifteen year old kids aren't gonna
get horny because the church says that, No, that's not
what that's not what happened. You have to deal with reality, right,
you know? With AI a thing, is there gonna be
a single job available for anyone with an IQ below
I don't know, one hundred and twenty, one hundred and ten,
where's the cutoff?
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I mean even the higher IQ lib tards.
Speaker 2: What are they going to do? What percentage of the
New York Times is already written by chapter GPT half
a third. I mean, now, why would they why would
they even pay somebody to do slop like that? Put
in a couple of key words, the people who programmed
it or already shit libs. So you know it's just
going to spit out shit livery Yeah. So if the
pro life movement is going to get serious, and this
is advice from you guys, you're pretty sympathetic to the
pro life movement. It's one of the three things we've
won on in my lifetime, the other two being homescholding
and concealed carrier rights. Those are the things that we
acted like leftists on. PETE recently reissued both, like the
complete series of our talk at Race Warren High School
of the book. And I keep talking about this book
because this book blew my mind and it's changed my
life in the two years since that, you know, since
I came on to talk about this. But the leftists
always always always got something that they wanted and then
came back for another bite at the apple, over and
over and over again until they got what they wanted.
So the pro life movement, rather than say all right,
we're gonna get a twelve week ban in every state,
you know, a state by state basis. We're gonna work
really hard for that, and then we're gonna work on,
you know, maybe enforcing a all doctors have to have
admittance privileges at a local hospital, you know, so to
make sure that the doctors you know, employed by pant
employed by playing parenthood are actually doctors. So you know,
there's things you could do to move the ball forward.
Football season started, so I can't help but use the metaphors, right,
But no, like, unless we can get a touchdown immediately,
we don't want to play well. While you're sitting there
talking arguing about well, you know, what's what's the best play?
You know, we get to a trick play to get
and then we'll fool everybody, or then we'll go to no.
Your opponents work for Satan, and they're okay, they're perfectly
okay with three yards in a cloutter dust every day
every play. That will import tens of millions of welfare
dependent people who might be against abortion for cultural reasons,
but they don't care about it. They don't actually care
enough to you know, vote for somebody else on religious
grounds because they get free stuff, and to them, the
free stuff is more important than abortion. So basically, every
non white population in America thinks their free stuff is
more important than dead babies. Period. Sometimes it's seventy percent
of them think that, sometimes it's ninety percent think that,
sometimes it's sixty percent. But the vast majority of non
white people think their free shit is more important than
dead babies. So unless you're against immigration period full stop
and four massive massive repatriation, you're never getting rid of abortion.
You have a highly dependent population that is sexually incontinent
and can't make a living in America on their own
because they lack the requisite IQ and ability to plan
for the future. You might think of a racist for
saying that, but those are just the facts. So if
you want to build a pro life America, you're going
to have to make America white again. You're gonna have
to make America fiscally conservative again. You're going to have
to do things and use power to actually reward your
friends and punish your enemies. When seventeen year old girls
and seventeen year old boys do what seventeen year old
children do. In nineteen fifty seven, there were jobs for
that you could be like, well, son, looks like you're
getting married and getting a job. And he got married
and he got a job, and I might have gotten
divorced a few years later or whatever. But a lot
of those folks actually just stayed married. But there's nothing
to do for that seventeen year old kid to do
right now. Can you name a place where a seventeen
year old kid could get a job. I mean you'd
think maybe in the metal industry, but you know, that
kid just got replaced by a haitian in Springfield, Ohio.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're not going to get not a seventeen year
old white kid. I mean, that was And this has
been going on for a while because boomers won't retire
they you know, and I'm really trying hard not to
shit on boomers much anymore, but you know, when you
go and take jobs because it's like, oh, I need
to keep working, and you take the jobs at a
seventeen year old would normally take, and you're five times
larger than any generation that's ever lived, while teenagers aren't
even gonna be able to get jobs anymore because you're
taking them all.
Speaker 2: Well, housing costs too much. When I need a job,
Why does housing cost too much? You only had two kids?
Oh right, the endless wave upon wave upon wave of
immigration that have forced people further and further and further out,
and housing prices up and up and up and up.
You know, the number one thing that keeps young people
from having kids today is Usuria's student loan debt and
housing prices. Do you want to be really pro life?
Take Harvard's endowment, pay off white kids student loans with it,
and if they have a kid, give them twenty you know,
give them twenty five thousand dollars. And you watch those
you know, zoomer gals just have eight kids apiece. It's
not complicated. We've set up all the incentives to be wrong.
And the pro life movement believes in the Nuremberg regime,
and the narrow Room regime exists to take people who
are part of the pro life movement and politically disenfranchise
them till they're dead. That's what the point of the
neuriprown regime is. And until you understand that and accept
that and deal with that, you're gonna lose every single time.
You can't make New York pro life, you can't make
California pro life. Pretty soon you won't even be able
to prove your pro life in Texas right because of
the invasion. What are you concrete going to do if
you really believe that it's a sacrifice to Moloch and
it's the most evil thing that anyone's ever done, which
I can make a pretty good case for that, what
are you going to do in concrete steps that actually
helps that stop? And I'm one hundred percent pro lifist,
I'm an abolitionist. I'm on one of those guys, right.
I've done by time in front of the clinic, holding
signs and protesting and saying the rosary. But I recognize
that in order to stop this, I have to have
power to do it. People who agree with me and
my friends need to be in a position where they
can actually make a difference. You know, Lila Rose pays
yourself a very generous salary off of Live Action. You
look at their tax fornes, right, they'll pulling two million
dollars in all, about one hundred and fifty thousand dollars
goes towards salaries. So a lot of these pro life
national organizations raise money to raise money, to raise money,
they don't really do anything they're pretty nice grifts that
you get it. But Leila Rose, it's.
Speaker 1: Like politics, it's just another jobs program. Yeah, yeah, it's
a job program for people.
Speaker 2: Yeah, showbiz for ugly people, as people say. But you
can't have a bunch of women who are against guns
and care really badly about poor George Floyd in charge
of a pro life movement. I'm sorry the world is
a better place without George Floyda And that doesn't make
me happy to say, I'm not like dancing on his
grave or anything like that. But if you don't think
that the world is objectively a better place without George
Floyd or Michael Brown or Tamir Rice or what's your
name from Kentucky, you know, then you're just run right.
I mean there's so many right if you can't accept
that these people's interests are one hundred percent against yours,
and you know you and I have bandied back and
forth in private chats. Right, that one graph by alternative hypothesis, Right,
the lifetime negative impact of black people is like negative
eight hundred and fifty thousand dollars per Like, that's how
much they take out of the system. Right, and Hispanics
is like six fifty or whatever, and white people is
like positive one hundred and fifty thousand. I can't remember.
Over the lifetime, you can't build a pro life society
that has spare resources to take care of people and offer,
you know, poor single moms who are sixteen or fourteen
a chance to have their baby and get on with
their life. In a society that's overrun with people who
aren't productive and vote for communism, What are you going
to do? Don't really matter at Donald Trump because he's
not as pro life as I want him to be.
He got you the one thing that actually gives you
a w in the last fifty years. I mean, were
you I've been to the March for Life. Washington, d C.
Is not like a you know, cold northern city, but
we could get pretty miserable in January. Were you just
happier like going and freezing in the rain and slushy
snow of Washington, d C. Every January twentieth? Happy to
be a beautiful loser because then you were doing something.
You were going to the March for Life. Okay, well,
now that you've got it, what are you going to do? Well?
We wanted to go to the March for life. It's
not a party, it's a political movement. You're trying to
get something out of it. What are you going to do?
You know, as a Catholic, it disturbs me. But white
evangelicals are the only reason we aren't living in a
communist dystopia right now. So how about we build a
society we're white evangelicals hold political power and everyone else
gets to live in a decent place.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I know white evangelicals that talk about that,
and as soon as they talk about it, other white
evangelicals come after them and you know, accuse them of
well basically just regurgitate every Nuremberg regime talking point to them,
and you know, every pejorative that has been danced in
the last eighty years.
Speaker 2: Yeah, of course, And that's that's because these people, they're
regime evangelic. As our friends at the Contramundum talk about
David French basically apostasized because he adopted a black girl
and he got roasted on Twitter for it. Of like, bro,
what are you doing? This is a status symbol for you?
Do you thought you'd be president because you went to
Iraq as a lawyer and awarded yourself a bronze star
and you thought you were gonna, you know, get to
be senator or something, and it didn't work out for you,
and you got made fun of viciously on Twitter. Rightfully,
so and so now he's like writing from your times
and how everyone that he used to be is like
a horrible person. It's like, well, maybe so, David, but
maybe they just understand the way the world actually works
better than you do. It's ridiculous to think that a
population that is already addicted to drugs and pornography and
isn't productive is just going to turn around and see
the light on the evils of abortion on their own, Like, oh,
you know, I was totally you know, smoking a j
on my way to my you know, waged low wage job,
but then I saw a sign that said abortion equals murder,
and I totally changed my mind. Doesn't work like that,
I mean it is. But what are you going to
do to that with that person to make them see
the light. You can remove them from power, you could say, ah, yeah,
this whole democracy thing not really working. You can't talk now,
or are you gonna just continue to let that person
live their life and when they screw up, you know, like,
and then they have their baby and they do a
bad job as a parent. You're going to go to
the rescue center and give them all kinds of stuff
and help them, and then they're gonna do it again
and again and again. And I'm not against you know,
pregnancy resource centers or anything like that. I've given time
and money to both those sorts of organizations. But you
have to deal with the real world. You have to
be honest about what's actually happening. And if you're not
capable of doing that, then politics isn't your game. I'm sorry,
Well we have.
Speaker 1: Yeah, everyone just acts like they're completely defeated, like that
there's nothing that they can do. And then they're like,
you know, they're they're always looking to somebody else. It's
like you say, well, you know, you really have to
you really have to get together with people, you know,
people of like mind, and oh, well, what are you doing?
Speaker 2: Well, what about fuck you?
Speaker 1: That's what I'm doing.
Speaker 2: That's my kite. Like maybe maybe I don't talk about
that publicly.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, you want to, you want to find out,
you want to talk, Let's get face to face. Leave
our phones, you know, leave our phone somewhere and go
for a walk. Yeah, but until then, fuck you.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: You know it's like I mean, and we're not talking
about like violence, like raising up you know, raising up
militias or anything like that. We're just talking about strategy.
Why would you be why would you be talking out
loud about your strategy? The only reason you want somebody
else to talk out loud about their strategy about their
strategy is because you're talking out loud about your strategy
that will never work. The only person who ever says
well what are you doing? Are people who are doing
things that are absolutely useless. I never I don't care.
I mean, I don't care. I don't care what my
former libertarian friends are doing and everything. If they want,
if they want my advice on something, they can ask.
You know, I have no problem helping anyone, anyone as
long as they're respectful.
Speaker 2: Is there no problem at all?
Speaker 1: We'll fucking bend over backwards to help you.
Speaker 2: And I can confirm that because Pete's done the same
for me. Like this is not. But you know, for
a lot of these pro life people, and a lot
of them are you know, childless women in their forties
and fifties who you know, were raised right, and so
they have this empathy for this sort of thing. But sweetheart, ma'am,
I love you. You're a wonderful person. It's really good
of you to care for these babies. But until you
can make the friend enemy distinction of like, our enemies
are not fit to wield power, and they're gonna commit abortion,
and you want to go jump on a grenade and
save those, save our enemies, it's not gonna work. It's
just gonna make more enemies. Okay, it pains me to
say that. I genuinely feel bad, you know, I really
genuinely don't like it. But it is true that until
you have a regime in power that does not care
what the you know, does not care about the post
Nurremberg consensus, right, you're always gonna lose because any time
you try and do anything stop the abortion holocaust you're using,
you're playing on the enemy's field. They're gonna beat you
every single time because stopping abortion, oh you must take
black people. You're racist, you're basically hitler. Until you can
break out of that frame and say, h, I mean
he had some good points, had some bad points. I
would have invaded Greece. Maybe you should have taken that
six weeks instead of saving Mussolan, he should have driven
from Moscow. But you know, overall he's pretty effective guy.
Until you can actually discuss the world as it actually is,
you're gonna lose. And if you're a pro lifer in Ohio,
and I think there was there was one like nice,
sweet evangelical lady who was you know, part of the
pro life Ohio movement, who you know, over over this
October seventh, right, like the people who run Pro life
Ohio you know, were Jews, and they got her fired.
If you're a pro lifer in Ohio, what's happening in
Springfield should horrify you, not because little kids are getting
killed or cats are getting eaten or whatever, but because
it's entrenching demonic abortionists in power in Springfield for the
next fifty years. You will lose in Springfield, Ohio for
fifty years if you don't get a handle on this
and be honest about it. I can't show my face
because the people who are listening to this, who are hostile,
would destroy my life and star of my kids. If
they're the sort of people that would destroy people's lives
over a political disagreement. What makes you think you can
reason with them? You think another argument about you know,
when to babies and sould matters to these people. It
doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: Not the biggest fan of Charlie Kirk in the world,
but he debated some pro abortion woman who went around
on telegram and you know she's bringing up all these
super super educases. What about you know, the ten year
old of the five year old they got pregnant and
I hope you know what about these and it was
not a factor. You know, Charlie Kirk sitting there, well,
what about facts and logic? You know, you know he
got the better of her in debate, right, but this
is not a woman who's reachable with reason. You just
have to take away her franchise, pat her on the
head and put her at the kids table. Until you're
willing to do that pro life movement, you're gonna lose, okay,
until you want to say, look, ladies, if you want
to vote, you got to have at least two kids.
You know who'd be in favor of that. And colder
and filter doesn't think women should vote. But if you
want women to vote, you have to have two kids
within marriage. You want public assistance, you got to be married.
You want government housing, you got to be married. Because
right now, all the people who think abortion is great
treat you, you pro lifers. They treat the men in
your life's wallet like a pizza that's been given them
for free that they get to cut up, and they
fight over what's in your wallet and they take it
from you, and you're expected to just hand you over
your wallet every April fifteenth or quarterly. If you're self employed.
Oh boy, that's a fun one, isn't it. Pete right
in both sides, and social Security for yourself and you
know you're not going to get any Yeah, that's about
the driest left I've ever heard from you. Ah So,
all right, if you really want to build a pro
life culture in the United States of America, you're gonna
have to get power and use it to boost the
people that are pro life. You gonna have to change
the culture. You have to destroy the local public school
because that's just a cat lady factory. You're gonna have
to get it so that you're gonna have to get
your clergyman to a point where they don't advocate civilizational suicide.
Every Sunday in the public how we need a new
welcome our new brothers and sisters from Congo, where Guatemala
or Haiti. You're gonna have to do something that requires
both the long game and pragmatic realism about where we're
actually at. You're gonna have to get rid of every
Jew in any position of any kind of power whatsoever.
You're gonna have to stop posting Dennis Prager and Ben
Shapiro are not hend tough or any of these people
as like pro lifers that you agree with. They don't abortion,
as the Michael Jones's pointed out, is a fundamental Jewish
value because temetic Juseyism is just Satanism, that's always And
anybody that wants to sit here, well what about No,
they're not your friends. You're gonna have to listen to
people like Andrew Torba and Andrew Risker and Stephen Wolfe
and Cordy Mahler and you know, real solid Christians who
are dealing with the world as it actually is, or
you're gonna lose. And it pains me to be as
brutal about this sort of thing as I am, but
I've got twenty years of doing this and or more. Actually,
and when you constantly seed the ground, seed the frame
to the enemy, and you allow the enemy to set
the rules, you lose. That's the truth. When you know,
all pro lifeals say, well, you know abortion was illegal
in all thirteen colonies and was illegal in the United States,
you know, everywhere up until such as such time. You
know who is in charge. Then white Christians, that's who
is in charge. That's who wrote those laws. Those are
those people who filled that society. You're not going to
get those pro life laws back until you make those
people in charge. Again, maybe not the majority population or
the majority population, but they have to be the ones
in power, you know.
Speaker 1: And you you keep saying that, you know, you have
to want power. That doesn't mean that you have to
run for office. That just means that you have to
be you may have to organize to have the right
people run for office, to have your friends running for office.
You know, I've said recently that I would you know,
I want to have like my friends in the you know,
in the Trump administration. And it's not because we agree
on everything politically, it's because we're friends.
Speaker 2: I'll give you this example. We share values. I'll give
you a perfect example. If one of our guys in
your county is a county health inspector starting to county
public health department, and every second Tuesday of the month
they go buy the local abortion clinic and they inspect
the place top to bottom. How long do you think
that place is going to remain open when they get
a three hundred dollars fine for the slightest, you know,
a pen being out of this at a place, for
the wrong spot. If one of our guys is in
charge of the county health department and oh hey, look
at that. We're not vaxing everybody in this county. It's
not a public health matter. The cold is not an
urgent public health matter. But I'll tell you what isn't.
There's your public health matter making sure everybody who's at
this clinic is properly licensed. Oh you're not properly licensed
doctor abortion is so and so. Oh well, you don't
have admitting privileges at the local hospital. I'm sorry you
can't practice here.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: Kermit Guysnel is a pretty awful horror story for those
of you who might remember it. He kept literally kept
babies in pieces in jars and stuff was a black
doctor in Philadelphia, not qualified remotely to be a physician.
But that's all of these people. I mean, he was
in a peculiarly egregious case. But do you think like
real good competent physicians like sign up to murder babies?
Who does that? Evil people do that, Wicked people do that.
Incompetent people do that. You're not going to get you know,
cream of the crop from Harvard Medical School or John
Hopkins or any any place like that to be abortionists.
So just make sure that they're they're you know, inspected
on a regular basis. Make sure that all the nurses
have their have their license requirements met. Make sure that
the people who actually have children can't support them. Make
sure the economy is structured so that, you know, mom
can stay home and dads can go to work. Make
it so that housing doesn't cost ten times what it did.
You know, Petere and I have talked about housing a lot.
Maybe maybe if people lived in coherent neighborhoods again, and
their neighbors were people that they went to church with
and were of a similar ethnic background, and they'd known
each other all their lives, maybe they could, uh, you know,
mom could go to work for a couple and the
kids could go next door to people that were basically
family and they wouldn't need to have, you know, go
to daycare with people that they don't know. Pro life
is a totality thing. It's not just a oh, we're
just against abortion. You have to have affordable family formation.
You have to have housing that works for families. You
have to have jobs in an economy that works for families.
You have to have food that families can afford. I
guarantee you that there are families that are desperate that
have gotten abortions in the last two years because of
food prices. Think about that. In America, people have been
driven to murder babies because food got so expensive. I
just spent two hundred dollars on groceries today. I was
linked to this recording for stuffolk should have cost me
eighty dollars three years ago. Do you think that's not
a pro life issue. How is having more people come
here who are completely dependent on taxpayer funds drive up
rents because they're getting thousands of dollars from the government.
Get free food, get free health care, don't have to
have car insurance, don't get their houses inspected so that
there's only you know, one person per bedroom, but there's
twenty people living in a three bedroom house. How can
a normal person compete with that? How much money would
you have in your pocket, Pete? If I paid your rent,
your grocery bill, your medical costs, and for your transportation,
life would be good, that's for sure. I mean, would
you'd have no major expenses left? No? Huh. So if
you want to build a pro life regime in America,
you're gonna have to do things like, I don't know,
pay for the young white people of America, the young
white people of Ohio, of Alabama, of wherever. Give them
that largess instead of foreigners who hate you and will always, always,
always vote against your interests. You know, the Trump campaign
is said, oh, we're going to get a majority of
black mails. Bull Absolutely not. You might get more, you're
not gonna get the majority because the entire Democratic Party
since nineteen sixty five or whatever, since the sixties has
been based off of giving them free stuff. Well, they
shouldn't want free stuff. If you read Thomas Soul, please,
most black people in the inner city are illiterates. They
don't care what Thomas Soul has to say, they don't
care what Walter Williams has to say. Oh, well, if
you listen to Alan Keyes's natural law argument against Barack
Obama about gay marriage, he topletely destroys him. Well, yeah
he did. It was embarrassing. But do you think that
the black people in Chicago even know who Alan Keys
is or that they're capable of listening to an argument
between two professors. They don't care. They're gonna have to
have pro life policies imposed on them. They're on what
generation four or five of total welfare dependence. They've never
lived outside of government housing, They've never been to a
doctor that they paid for, they've never bought their own groceries,
And you're gonna make this person into an independent yeoman
Republican who's pro life overnight by making an argument, are
you crazy? I understand that abortion is a horrifying subject,
and it's awful to think about, and it's viscally off putting.
I understand all of that, But emotion goes to the
left because you can make the argument what about the
poor babies? But they can also always make an argument,
what about the poor child who's been you know, is
eight years old? And was raped by your father and
is pregnant with triplets and doesn't speak English from Guatemala
and she came here from a boat from Africt like
you could. They can always outdo you in that department.
The left is based off emotion. You're always gonna lose.
And I keep repeating this because I want listeners to
this program probably know the score already. But when you're
arguing with pro life people in your lif life, keep
hamming this. You will always lose if you don't deal
with reality. And that's all I'm asking you to do.
As my friend Boys always says, all I'm asking is
that you engage with reality, and the reality is a lesson.
Until you acknowledge that our society is structurally against set
up against the family, and in particular against white people
having families, and until you rectify that, you're gonna lose.
Speaker 1: The O.
Speaker 2: There's things you can do government policy wise to fix these,
but you need to be in power for us before
you do it, and until you're willing to actually exercise
that power. So you're going to put your differences aside
and actually accomplish things, all you're doing is wasting your
time and money. You know, there are multiple people I've
talked to you on different podcasts who should be both
vastly higher paid than they are, but should be running institutions,
and they're not. Because they are, we're foolish not to
get in a podcast with me, and I'm radioactive because
I'm you know, a racist, fascist tumblephall, et cetera, et cetera,
et cetera. You want to be a pro life, put
Canonis in Tragic of Cato Institute. Then then you know
we'll sell some real pro life policies happen. Put you know,
put Andrew Isker in a position to run a seminary.
Put people who actually understand the way the world works
in positions of power and influence, you know, put James
Put James Edwards in Church of the Southern Baptist Convention.
Then you'll see some real change. Until you're willing to
actually do it, all you're doing is whine. And if
that's what you want to do, fine, but you don't
get to tell me what to do. And until you
want to engage with reality, you're just talking. And those
of us who actually want to accomplish something have a
perfect right to tell you to be quiet. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean the fact that more people aren't talking about
how Springfield is basically a city that unless they just
basically bring in bus after bus after bus after bus
and take these people to I mean, moving twenty thousand
people isn't easy, but you can do it if you
want to. Unless you want to get them out of there,
that that city is basically now poured out prints in
the Middle East, in the Midwest, Yeah, I mean, that's
that's it. That town is gone, that town is now
a Haitian town. And you know, yeah, if you want
to go down to South Florida and talk to like
the Cubans and the blacks, the American blacks, you know
what they you know what, both of those people having
common down there, both of those groups having common down there.
They just hate Haitians. They look at Haitians and they're like,
what are they doing here? I mean, who who allowed
them to come in? And I don't want to make
this all about one group, but it is. I mean,
you're you're literally talking about the funniest thing that I
saw this week. Not funny, but Scott Adams. Scott Adams
was upset because somebody contacted him and told him that
you know, he's like, why are you lying to me?
And saw me the average IQ and haitius sixty two
and he's like and he you know, he does this
Scott Adams thing.
Speaker 2: He goes.
Speaker 1: So I went to debunk them, and I said, there's
no way that they have an IQ of seventy.
Speaker 2: That it has to be.
Speaker 1: It has to be somewhere, you know, in a higher range.
Speaker 2: And he goes and I.
Speaker 1: Found out that or he said it has to be
something different than like seventy, and he's like, I found
out I was right, it was sixty two.
Speaker 2: So what do you do with that? Yeah, what do
you do with that? I mean, they're not.
Speaker 1: The interim police chief of Silicaga, who you can imagine
what he looks like because somebody said he looks like
a retired rapper, has said he's not going to he's
not going to arrest any of these people because he
can't communicate with them. He said, in any of his
police who do are going to be written up. Well,
and you think this isn't a plan? You think this
do you think this happened by accident?
Speaker 2: These people hate you. They've took tens of thousands of
millions of your dollars extracted at the point of a gun.
And they brought these people here to destroy you and
kill you. And even when you give them money. You know,
speaking in South Florida, Tyreek Hill Star wide receiver for
the Miami Dolves. Right, he gets out of a game
like last Sunday, two sundays ago, maybe he gets pulled
over by bike cops because he was doing one hundred
and twenty and a forty zone and the bike cops
got blessed with these tough Latino guys and there and
I rolled down to the window because this window is
super tened. No am, I rolled down the window. Who
was right? I need to be able to see you man.
And you can watch the tape up on YouTube or wherever.
But this is a dude who was driving look at
Lamborghini or some some ridiculous like half a million dollar
a car. Right, He's been given fame and fortune and
everything that goes with it to go with the Queen's song. Right,
And he and a coworker of his who got out
of the car to almost start a fight with the
cops over him getting arrested. Clais Campbell, one of his teammates,
instead of being like, oh, maybe I shouldn't been doing
one hundred and twenty in a forty phone or even
a six like one hundred and twenty. But there's no
road in America where you're not going at least forty
miles an hour over the speed limit, one and a
half times the eighty miles an hour, which is probably
the highest speed limit in America. There's no place in
America where that isn't a massive ticket, a take your
license away sort of ticket. And this guy proceeds to
act a complete fool, act belligerent, and then get himself
cuffed and arrested. Okay, I think his his house burned
down because he didn't have you know, I'm pretty sure
his Tyreeks Shale's house had burned down, Peak, could you
look that up? Because he didn't have proper smoke detectors?
Right of course, right? The ceiling birded chirps. This man
has been given every Is he polite? Is he grateful?
She's like, man, I should be, you know, thank God
for all these white people who love to watch football.
They give me everything. I should be. I should be
really really grateful to them. No, he's a complete dirt bag.
He's an entitled piece of crap, and instead of wanting
to live in a society where stuff like that doesn't happen,
pro lifers will say, well, but abortion dispfortunately affects black people.
We've got to stop it. It's racist. So what, let's
be honest with ourselves and say, yeah, you know what,
the black American population not exactly known for their ability
to live with others, and that's caused untold amounts of
abortion in this country, not just because the abortions that
they get, but the nice middle class couple they can
only afford two kids to send a private school because
they live near Atlanta, and they can't send their kids
to Atlanta public schools because they die. And so that
thirty five year old mom of two who works, you know,
her birth control failed and she got an abortion because
her husband can't afford another kid. And little seventeen year
old Jane Right, who sexually assaulted by people that shouldn't
have been around her in the first place, her mom
and dad quietly take her to the abortion clinic because
they know what color the baby is going to be
and it's not the one that they wanted for their grandkid.
I'm not saying this is good. I'm saying it's what's happened.
And until pro lifers can deal with the realities in
front of their face and be honest that abortion is here.
It was on a couple weeks ago with Great Tim Kelly.
Then he put it this way, you know, I modesty
and dress and feminism, which is a transgender movement, led
to pornography, which led to abortion, or which led a contraception,
which led to abortion, which led to transgenderism. You have
to reject all of it, and you have to be
honest enough with yourself to do. It's going to take
a long time to reverse all these ill effects. It's
gonna take years of hard, patient work of rebuilding a
culture that is actually capable of being pro life. Our
culture right now is not capable of being pro life
because we live in the degenerate society. And until you
wanting to do the hard work that it's gonna take
to change that, every time you give into the regime framing,
you make it that much harder to change course. You
make it impossible to change course. You know. I mean
when Donald Trump says if Kamala Harris wads Uh usual
will be destroyed, Okay, well, you just gave me a
good reason to come home. But if if you're not
willing to actually deal with reality, you're gonna lose. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well I got to button it up for tonight. Man.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry with the visit delay, but I mean, am
I wrong? And it's pretty quiet. This has pretty much
just been me ranting all night. Uh No, I mean
it's I mean, I'm I'm met by wits end.
Speaker 1: It's like, do you people really need to start understanding
now that they can't wait until they have to start
planning for this stuff now to happen in their area,
especially if they live in a really nice area, especially
if they live in a rural nice area. I mean,
twenty thousand Haitians in the span of eighteen months, your
town is gone.
Speaker 2: That's two divisions.
Speaker 1: That's like the one hundred and first, you know, And
it's and one of the reasons I keep bringing that up,
and I brought that up is because it's the same
thing as the abortion thing. It's like, you're you're just
not going to do anything about it. You're not You're
just not You're if you're not willing to do it
about that, what do you suppose. I mean people are
people who have to leave like the only place their
families ever lived. I mean, look at like like cj
Engle like a sixth generation Californian and Andrew Esker like
a sixth generation Minnesotan. There like leaving. Why it's just
it's been taken over. Yeah, I know. Yeah, I mean, well,
we're not gonna tell say anything about from where and
to where I won't because yeah, but yeah, but yeah, yeah,
and you had to leave. You were from the greatest
city on the place of the planet. Yeah, why why
why couldn't you you know and what we know circumstances otherwise,
But why couldn't you be peepe from queens who took
your Like why weren't you able to get married from
a to a girl down the block who you know
in all your life you went to the same parish,
you went to the same high school. That was you know,
you know that you the girl next story, you get married,
You live in an apartment two blocks from where your
folks lived. You went to the same church. There's twenty
two hundred murders a year.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because twenty two hundred murders a year, that's that's right.
And until the people who in the pro life movement
accept the truth about the JQ, the reality of race,
the reality of women not being fit to hold any
kind of political power, and as long as they accept
framing of the enemy, they will continue to lose continuously.
There's no way to win if you're playing by the
enemy's rules. If you want a world where every child
is welcomed, then you're going to have to work to
disempower the Jews, repatriate all the immigrants, and remove the
franchise from women, period. And that's you can like it
or not, but that's what's going on. Then until you're
willing to be honest about that, babies will continue to
get slaughtered by the tens of millions. You know, the
Nuremberg regime supplied Stalin with ten thousand aircraft from Montana
that flew all the way through Canada, all the way
through Alaska, and all the way like halfway around the world.
It was like ten thousand miles and enough material for
forty divisions from around through the Caucasus. Stalin himself says
that they would have lost without all the stuff that
the Americans gave these people. No Stalin, no mao no mao,
no ho chi min no pole pot, No one child
program in China that's responsible for tens of millions of abortions.
Nonume Britain, no no uh no, Jay, You've dominated America,
no new Deal regime that's responsible for tens of millions
of abortions. You know this is this is a serious,
serious thing where the people in charge effectively worship Satan
and sacrifice babies to Moloch for political power. Until you're
willing to treat it like that and not an excuse
to virtue signal you're gonna lose, and you have to
reward your friends and be indifferent to your enemies. If
if New York wants to go to Satan. It pains
me to say this. It's a beautiful city. I wish
I'd gotten to see it when it was still something.
But that's not my problem. I can't care about that.
I can care about my pachejer. And the pro life
movement has to care about their people, and only their people,
or they'll lose. Make sure everyone every kid in your
church can have three kids, and then get back to
me about the poor benighted Haitian immigrants.
Speaker 1: I don't see why people think that they shouldn't be
taking care of their own when they look around and
every other group is taking care of their own. Why
just because somebody told you that what that white people
are evil? Why do you believe them? Why do you care?
Why do you care what they have to say?
Speaker 2: The same people that have sacrificed sixty million American babies
to Satan tell you you're evil for caring about your
people as opposed to the people that sacrifice babies to Satan.
Huh I like what. Kamala Harris is a prostitute who
murders babies. She tries to people who stop that, tries
to throw them in jail. She sells baby parts. Why
do you care what anybody who's on her sidey thing
thinks about anything at all? Well, they call you racist?
Speaker 1: So what?
Speaker 2: Forty six percent of black women have her bees. You
think you're going to get them to stop behaving in
an abominable way just because you told them that it
was wrong. Haitian immigrants are driving with They're killing old
people by a little old lady who was just putting
her trash out by driving, just driving all over the
road drunk at ten am. You think you're going to
reach that person with the argument they have an IQ
of sixty seven. I'm not saying we should be pro
You know, Margus Sanger was a goal She was an
evil person. She was a servant of the devil. Right,
But when she says, oh, I want to kill all
the stupid people, you can't be like, well, we need
to be very pro pro the stupid people, because that's
the moral thing to do. Like, no, you need to
be pro good people and eventually they'll find a way
to take care of the stupid people. But you can't.
I know, do you know who the wealthiest person in
Haiti is? I believe it's the one billionaire in the
island who's Jewish. I can't remember his name.
Speaker 1: Gilbert Gilbert Bifio, a Sephardic Jew from Aleppo in what
is now Syria.
Speaker 2: Yep, just like iim Saban not I'm saved. Is Jewish.
The guy who owns New York Times is Carlos Slim.
Carlos Slim is a Lebanese is I don't think he's
a Jewish, but he's he's uh of Syrian or Lebanese extraction.
The entire elite in those countries is low trust, you know,
gold chain race and because they're not, like, there's no
how are you gonna find a guy that won the
d m V with an IQ of sixty seven that's
the average half her done with than that?
Speaker 1: All right, let's wrap. I gotta get I guess some sleep. Yeah, no,
thank you, man. I'll make sure. I'll make sure to
link to your telegram chats and everything, and yeah, thank you,
thank you. I mean, I know that we bounced around
a little bit, but uh, I hope people understand that
all of these things are related, you know. And I
brought up Augustine because Augustine said that Christians. Christians can
go to war when there's with the intentions to make peace,
with the intention to bring order. I mean, and I'm
not asking people to be violent. Politics is war by
other means. But if you look around and you think
that we have peace and we have calm and we
have order, then there's something wrong with you. And there's
something equally wrong with you if you call yourself a
Christian and you think that somehow you martyring yourself and
your kids and basically martyring making the decision to martyr
every other Christian in this country because oh, we're not
supposed to do anything. We lose down here, all our
treasure is stored up in heaven. Well again, it's one
of the reasons why I didn't. There have been long
stretches in my life where I just avoided church, not
because I didn't, not because I didn't believe in the doctrine,
not because I didn't, but because I just didn't want
to be around people. Just didn't want to be around
these people pathetic. I mean, they're really really pathetic. That's it.
Speaker 2: That's what I got