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and again, thank you so much for your support. Beginning

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in the next hour, I will be chatting with Terry Donovan.

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She is the Republican candidate for mayor of Charlotte.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk with her Tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: I'll talk to the Libertarian candidate for mayor of Charlotte,

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Rob Yates, so stay tuned for that. Obviously, one of

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the big issues, if not the issue, in that mayor's

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race for Charlotte is crime. So let me start with

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the crime stats, which I'm sure coincidentally. I'm not saying

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that facetiously. I mean I am fluent in sarcasm, so

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I know sometimes it's hard to tell, but I'm sure

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it's purely coincidence that the data dump yesterday by CMPD

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came the day before early voting begin which is today.

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Early voting begins today, and just in time, the data

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is out on the previous where I should say, the

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first three quarters of data on crime. This runs from

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January through September.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so.

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Speaker 2: You know a nine month tally compared to the previous

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time or the same time period previous year. So we're

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looking at the first three quarters of twenty twenty four,

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first three quarters of twenty twenty five, and CMPD is

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highlighting that overall crime has dropped eight percent. Violent offenses

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dropped twenty percent. So here's from their statement. Today, the

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Charlotte Mecklenburg Police Department released its third quarter public Safety

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report for January through September twenty twenty five, showcasing a

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substantial decline in crime city wide.

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Speaker 1: By the way, I see nothing in.

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Speaker 2: The release about the long term trend going back, say

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a decade, because the spike that we saw after the

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summer of fiery but mostly peaceful rioting that has warped

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the stats because we saw such an increase over the

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course of two years essentially, and now it's dropping again.

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So when you hear the statistics and remember about lies,

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damnable lies and statistics that when you hear a decline

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in the crime stats, to me, what's important is always, okay,

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what's the historical trend line and is this a lower

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level than it was pre COVID, because that's the marker.

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Because when COVID hit, crime went through the roof. Because

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it also overlaid with the George Floyd protests and all

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of the quote bail reforms and judicial reforms that were

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enacted by Democrat leaders all across America, Charlotte included, and

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we're still dealing with this stuff today. And in fact,

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to their credit, CMPD referenced the court system because in

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my view, this is really the problem. It is the

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court system. It's these judges that keep letting repeat offenders out.

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Every single day. There's another story about somebody can emitting

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some sort of violent offense and either they were a

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a turnstiled defendant just in and out and in and

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out and in and out, a repeat, repeat, repeat offender, right,

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or it's somebody who was out on a cashless bail.

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By the way, they did catch the guy that was

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wanted for murder in Maryland who was let go from

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the Mecklenburg County jail. The other day last week they

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let him out. Think his name was Boatwright. They let

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him out and they were like, well, we didn't have

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any kind of warrant from the governor. Now Maryland disputes that.

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Maryland says we did have a warrant for him. So

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not really sure what's going on there, but they let

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him out. But don't worry. He's not roaming our streets anymore.

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Somehow or another, he did get picked up. So murder

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suspect back behind bars. That's the latest I saw in

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that story. But at least CMPD is calling attention to

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the courts. Unlike every other Demo crat leader in Charlotte,

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they have not spoken about the court system. They are

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applying no pressure to their fellow Democrats, these lawyers with

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the wardrobe change that sit.

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Speaker 1: On the bench.

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Speaker 2: They're not doing any kind of pr campaign against them

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to try to get them to be tougher, particularly on the.

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Speaker 1: Repeat, repeat offenders.

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Speaker 2: So they found, as I mentioned, decrease in overall crime

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eight percent, decrease in violent crime twenty percent. This is

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for the entire city, for the entire CMPD footprint. Okay,

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these encouraging trends reflect the department's commitment to data driven policing,

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innovative crime prevention strategies, and the unwavering dedication of officers

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working in close partnership with the community. Through the first

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nine months of the year, overall crime has declined eight

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percent compared to the same time last year. Twenty percent

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reduction of violent crime that includes homicides, rapes, robberies, and

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aggravated assaults, which in comus shootings. Property crime, which includes

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residential and commercial auto theft and larceny, is down five percent. Now,

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if you go deeper into those numbers, they're not all down.

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Residential burglaries are down about one hundred, going from like

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thirteen hundred down to twelve hundred, but commercial burglaries are

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actually up. They're up by about seventy five. Larceny from

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automobiles also up a little bit, went from like seventy

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seven hundred, just under seventy seven hundred to a little

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above seventy seven hundred, So I would call that flat line.

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It was up by like twenty twenty cases. And by

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the way, you actually can do a lot to help

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in this regard. Everybody can lock your freaking car doors, people,

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and don't leave your guns in your car, like these

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are obvious things. I don't understand somebody who leaves a

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gun in the glove box and leaves the car unlocked.

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I used to come from a neighborhood. We didn't have

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to worry about that. Okay, well, you know what, it's

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a different time. You're in a different place. Got to

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lock the doors, lock the car doors. Okay, there's my

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soapbox moment for the Well, that's not true. I'm going

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to probably I'm going to have a couple more. I

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feel like I'm going to have a couple more. So

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I should make the promise. That's the only one. A

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quote from Charlotte Mecklenberg Police Deputy Chief Jackie Briley, who

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said patrol officers are the most visible part of the department.

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They're in our communities, building relationships to turning crime, providing

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services to our residents. Every day, our officers intervene in disputes,

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stop crimes in progress, and prevent violence without it ever

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making the news. She's exactly right. She's exactly right. The

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crimes that CMPD prevent never make the news, never because

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they didn't happen, and it's not newsworthy. In some cases,

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you don't even know you prevented a crime. You're just

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walking around, some crime will seize you. They don't engage

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in the activity. The cop doesn't know that. The only

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person that knows that they were thwarted was the criminal.

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And they're not going to you know, WBT news and

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saying hey, I was going to do a crime and

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then I saw a cop, so I didn't do it,

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you know, So there's no way to track this stuff.

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Speaker 1: But she is exactly right.

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Speaker 2: But also I would point out here that she is

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articulating a concept where more police presence, visible police presence,

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leads to a reduction in crime. That's what she just said.

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They are the most visible part of our department. They're

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in the community, they're talking with residents, they're deterring crime.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 2: Their mere presence helps to reduce those numbers. Look, I

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am a realist, I am a citizen of Realville, right,

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because I know that you will never get to a

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zero crime rate. That's never going to happen.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 2: However, this idea, and this is what I bristle at

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the most, is this narrative that is being advanced by

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city leaders that it's a perception of safety and CMPD

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also articulated this yesterday in their press conference. There's this

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that people don't perceive that they're safe, and if they

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don't feel safe, then they're not safe. Right, that's this

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narrative that they're using. Councilman Malcolm Graham said, if you

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don't feel safe, you're not safe. And too many of

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the citizens throughout the city aren't feeling safe. Well, what

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does this narrative actually mean? It means you're delusional. That's

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what they're saying to you, to me, to everybody, that

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we are delusional. See crime rates down, but you have

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this perception. But crime rates down, Yes, it may be down,

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but that doesn't mean it's at an acceptable level.

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Speaker 1: Oh well, I'm not saying that. Yeah, but you kind

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of are.

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Speaker 2: You kind of are saying that because you're saying, oh,

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it's just your perception.

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Speaker 1: See, let's get a perception.

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Speaker 2: So when I was a kid, my grandpa died with Alzheimer's,

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and before he died, my mom and my dad took

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care of him as he got worse. Forty years ago,

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there were no treatments and not much support for caregivers

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and family. But things are different today because of the

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work of so many people, including the Alzheimer's Association of

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Western Carolina. It's a great organization with awesome people with

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huge hearts. I've been a supporter for twenty five years.

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This cause means a lot to me. I participate in

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the annual Walk to end Alzheimer's and I'm leading a

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Charlotte team again this year, and it's called once again

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Pete's Pack. You can sign up and you can join

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at thepetepod dot com. There's also a link in the

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description of this podcast. Also, I'll be am seeing the

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If you do, I really appreciate it. There are a

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For a different future, for families, for more time for treatments.

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This is why we walk. Let me go over to

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the text line seven oh four number Anonymous says, do

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you think it is merely coincidence that the de Carlos

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Brown hearing for tomorrow was delayed six months and so

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close to the election?

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Speaker 1: I do yes.

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Speaker 2: According to the reports that I have read, it was

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actually it was supposed to be today, and it's called

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a Rule twenty four hearing. It's for the state to

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determine whether or not they're going to seek the death

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penalty against de Carlos Brown Junior, the alleged murderer of

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Arena Zarutzka on the light rail line. According to the

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story of WBTV, the decision to delay the hearing came

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from the defense team Brown and his attorney. They did

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the reason for the delay was redacted. So I don't

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know why that would be redacted, but it was blacked out.

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Speaker 1: Uh from the documents.

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Speaker 2: So like if you're looking at a death penalty case,

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these things take a long time, and uh so it's

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not unusual for there to be delays. So if it

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had come from the DA's office or the court. I

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may have some more suspicions, but the fact that it

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came from the defense, that just seems to be sort

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of a normal, a normal course of events, you know.

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All right, let me get back to the crime stats

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here that were released by c MPD.

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Speaker 1: In fact, hang on a second, let me do do

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Speaker 4: Do?

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Speaker 1: You go over here?

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Speaker 2: This is the story from WSOCTV by Eli Brand regarding

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the CMPD crime stat reports for the first nine months

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of the year, and he teases out one of the

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comments made by CMPD during the press conference.

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Speaker 5: Channel nine's Eli Brand joins us line from CMPD headquarters

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where police just broke down this data and Eli, they

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did so, but they also addressed this moment and how

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people are feeling about their safety right now.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah.

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Speaker 3: And they started with the statistics, of course, they said

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overall crime is down eight percent. They said violent crime

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like murders is down twenty percent this year as compared

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to last year. At this point, but several CMPD speakers

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did acknowledge that despite the numbers they presented, people may

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not be feeling safe in the city of Charlotte. They

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blamed that feeling on multiple things. They blamed it on

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high profile incidents in social media those some of them,

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but they also highlighted repeat offenders. That's something they really

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hammered down on. They say it is several of the

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same people that are committing crimes being released in committing

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crimes again. That are some of the biggest issues in the.

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Speaker 1: City so far this year.

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Speaker 3: CMPD says sixty percent of people that are arrested for

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violent crimes had been charged with something in the past.

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Speakers said CMPD has a good relationship with the Mecklenburg

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County District Attorney's Office, but despite the work that officers

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do on the ground, it may take changes in the

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behavior of judges to make a big dent in crimes committed.

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Speaker 6: It takes more than just CNPD in our relationship with

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the DA's office. You know, we have to do a

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deeper dive and see what's best for some of these

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repeat offenders. And so, you know, eventually the conversations will

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have to stand to the judges and the sentences that

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they're receiving.

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Speaker 3: Yes, and CMPD did go on to present some of

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the solutions they're trying to put in place to try

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and curb crime. They did mentioned patrols that are going

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to be in cre think, particularly in the Uptown division.

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Last week we told you that the department plans to

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increase their presence, especially near bars and other forms of nightlife.

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Speaker 2: All right, So that's an Eli Brand at WSOCTV in

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the quote there, or I should say the SoundBite was

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Deputy Chief Jackie Briley, and she's exactly right now. In

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their press release from CMPD. Despite the encouraging progress in

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the first nine months of twenty twenty five in reducing

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overall crime, repeat offenders continue to inflate crime stats and

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victimization numbers across the city, negatively contributing to the perception

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of public safety. Now, think about what she said there

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and what Eli Brand was reporting. Sixty percent of the

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people that they arrest have priors. That is what we

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call recidivism. These are oftentimes career criminals, and for some reason,

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our local court system is incapable or unwilling to identify

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these threats to the society, giving them what forty second

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chances or something like. I understand second chances, maybe even

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a third, but at some point when it is clear

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that somebody is engaged in sociopathic behavior or psychopathic behavior.

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They are a threat to the society. You need to

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protect people because this line here about. You know, they

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inflate the crime stats and victimization numbers. Okay, the victimization

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numbers are not like inflated artificially. They're inflated because people

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are being victimized by the same people over and over

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and over again.

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Speaker 1: This is not new.

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Speaker 2: This has been going on in Charlotte my entire career here,

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literally my entire career. When I was a reporter. I

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started in nineteen ninety nine here and back then I

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was putting a mic in the face of the Zen

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District Attorney Peter Gilchrist, asking the very same questions about repeat,

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repeat offenders. At some point, people in the court system

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should have recognized what's not working. And I can tell

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you what's not working. Whatever you're doing right now, that's

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not working. Okay, whatever you're doing, just stop doing it.

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Do the opposite of what you're doing now.

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chat with Alex. Hello Alex, welcome to the program.

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Speaker 4: Hey Hemy, Hey Byte, how you doing.

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Speaker 1: I'm doing all right?

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Speaker 4: How are you okay? Yeah? I just want to comment

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that last month I mailed a letter to President Trump

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about the crime situation here in Charlotte. I mean, I've

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lived my entire life, almost sixty two years on the

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West side of Charlotte, and you know what a high

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crime area that is. And over the years, I've seen

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the city's crime problem escalate dramatically, and I felt it

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was high time for corrective action to be taken. I

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mentioned in or that the local political leaders are in

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it and the judicial system is corrupt, and I say,

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we need someone in authority to with the ambition, intelligence

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and encourage to take control of this crime infested Democrat run.

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Speaker 2: What do you so, what do you think of the U,

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the Charlotte Mecklenberg FOP, the Fraternal Order of Police, their

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request for National Guard troops to come.

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Speaker 4: Well, I support one hundred percent. I'm with them all

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the way. I mean, if they see the need for it,

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and ordinary citizens like me see the need for it,

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I think it's the political leaders that are screwing up

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that they're just too proud to admit we have a

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problem in the city. I mean, well, they.

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Speaker 2: Also I think they also don't want to anger a

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large portion of their political voting base that wants these types.

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Speaker 4: Of a lot of vote Democrat, you know you're.

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Speaker 2: Right, Well, no, I mean it is like you've got

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you've got people who are connected to a lot of

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these services, uh the service providers essentially you know, uh

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non offits NGOs, and they get contracts, they get they

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get close to power, they get a seat at the table,

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they get labeled a stakeholder, they get included in discussions,

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and it puffs up their their sense of self importance

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that they're actually you know, making a difference in all

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of this. Meanwhile, they are deriving financial benefit as well

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for themselves and whatever organization they're working on. And that's why,

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like this is a there is a comparative with like

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the homeless agencies that work out in like Los Angeles

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and San Francisco, and they're they're not really incentivized to

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solve the problem because if they solve the problem, then

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there's no use for them anymore.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just bureaucratic nonsense. Also, about a month ago,

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was talking with my cousin down in George and we

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were discussing the crime problem in cities like Atlanta and Charlotte,

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and I mentioned that if the Devil ever became mayor

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of Charlotte, he wouldn't have to change much. I mean,

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this has got This is gotten so evil it doesn't

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need a mayor, it needs an exorcist.

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Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, you gets to do you get a

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double thank you, Alex. I appreciate the call, sir, Ah

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right bud to take care. Yes, sir. Here's a quote

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from Charlotte Mecklimburg Police Department Sergeant Todd Martin of the

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Southeast Service Area Crime Reduction Unit or the CRU or

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as I call it, the crew. He said quote, we

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continue to see a troubling pattern. A disproportionate number of

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violent incidents and property crimes are being committed by individuals

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with extensive criminal histories, many of whom continue to cycle

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through the justice system without facing meaningful consequences. The cycle

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of catch and release does not reduce crime in our community. Correct,

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it does not. This is not even a new lesson

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to be learned. We already know this policing, crime fighting, right,

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court systeming. We've all people in these industries have known this.

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You can't keep letting people break the law and then

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letting them go without any punishment. And I understand, like, oh,

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well they made a mistake. Okay, how many mistakes do

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you get to make? Maybe that should be the conversation,

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how many mistakes does somebody get to make, five, ten,

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whatever it is, like, give me a number.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Like I'm looking.

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Speaker 2: For an optimal standard. I'm looking for something, a benchmark,

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you might say, something that I can judge policy and

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results off of.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 2: This is why I ask whenever we have the conversation

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about teacher pay or per pupil expenditures in the education industry,

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I'm always asking, well, what's the optimal per pupil expenditure?

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Give me a number. What's the number that it takes

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to educate all the children per kid? Tell me what's

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the number? And they don't ever give me the number.

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They were like, well, maybe if we just get to

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the national average. Do you even know what that number is?

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They don't teacher pay. Same thing, same thing here. What's

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the number? How many violent offenses do I get to

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commit before I get denied bail, before I before I

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stand in front of a jury and face actual prison

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time for it.

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Speaker 1: What's the number? Is it one?

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Speaker 2: You don't get a second chance if you commit certain crimes. Okay,

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let's have that list. And I know they can make

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the lists for crying out loud, they made the list

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on cashless bail. Every misdemeanor category two and three you

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get to get cashless bail, you get to.

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Speaker 1: Walk, and some of those. I mentioned this the other day.

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Speaker 2: I ran through, I looked over all of the charges

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and this comes from our local court system. They decide this.

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The judge in charge of our district, that's Judge Wiggins.

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He decides they set the bail schedules for all of

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these crimes. And some of the misdemeanors that are included

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in that list of cashless bail crimes are things like stalking.

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It's like stalking. Really you get charged with stalking, which

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is pretty hard to do. Ask a stalking victim. It's

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pretty difficult to get the charges to stick. There was

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also assault. You can assault people and get to walk

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on a cashless bail. Now, I feel like that shouldn't

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be something you get to just walk home after. Inconsistent

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accountability for repeat offenders, both adults and juveniles undermines community

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safety and places an undue burden on victims, neighborhoods, and

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law enforcement resources. Right, So I always keep that in

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mind as well, because you hear democrats talking about how

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we have to you know, give more money to police

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departments so they can increase cops pay and do more recruitment.

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They can fund more recruitment and retention. I don't oppose that. However,

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they keep citing this as the reason why, you know,

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crime is up and it's difficult to fight this crime

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and that sort of thing, and they're like, well, we

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need the General Assembly to fund these things, even though

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that is traditionally the role of the local governments to do. However,

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if you think that that is a huge part of

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the problem, then why wouldn't you be assailing the judges

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that allow the people to keep walking out onto the street,

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requiring more police officers and resources to be devoted to

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rearresting them when they reoffend. It doesn't make any sense,

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in which case, reassess your assumptions. Right, if you don't

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understand the dults, reassess your assumptions. And my assumption is

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that they're serious about trying to improve public safety, Let

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me reassess that assumption because what you're saying is not

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lining up.

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here is a message from Russ on Twitter. Russ says,

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just spitballing here, But maybe the perception of crime is

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driven by people's real experience.

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Speaker 1: I believe that's.

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Speaker 2: Called our lived experience, and that Trump's reality data. Anything

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else your lived experience.

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Speaker 1: That's the standard. I didn't make up the standard.

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Speaker 2: That's been the standard though for like the last almost decade. Okay,

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he says, thirty years ago, my car was broken into

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at a shopping center. I was the outlier in my

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friend group, even though most of us lived in or

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close to sketchy areas. Now I can think of about

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a dozen people I know who have had homes or

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cars broken into, cars stolen, and experienced assaults in the

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last few years, all in the nicer parts of town

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or downtown. Also, the homeless population seems more prevalent, a

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little more unstable, more muttering.

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Speaker 1: Unpredictable movements, etc. Etc. I will never forget.

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Speaker 2: I was at a CMPD press conference and the public

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Information officer at the time.

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Speaker 1: Her name is Julie Hill.

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Speaker 2: She used to be PIO for the City of Charlotte

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and then moved over to CMPD and I had a good

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working relationship with her. We both understood, you know, what

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our roles were. And I was talking to her either

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before or after one of these data dumps, one of

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these crime stat update press conferences, and I said to

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her that I said, if I had to guess, I

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would say probably almost everybody has been affected by crime.

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And she pushed back and said she didn't believe that

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to be the case, and I said, no, I think

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it's true, whether you personally have been affected by crime

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or you know somebody who has been affected by crime.

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And she again pushed back, saying she didn't believe that

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was accurate. And she said that she did not she

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was not a victim of any crime, and I said, well,

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I am, I was multiple times. So now you know

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somebody who's been affected by crime. There go proving my point. Yeah,

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And I think that is the case. And the longer

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a city allows this sort of behavior to occur and persist,

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the more people are going to fall into my category. Yeah,

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I mean I had a guy stole stuff out of

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my shed at the very first house that I owned.

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He stole my lawnmower, next house that I owned, burglarized.

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Neighborhood I live in now repeatedly hit by you know,

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car door poppers, you know the kids that get dropped

508
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off at the front of the neighborhood. They roam through

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the neighborhood checking people's doors, lifting up the door handles,

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and stealing everything from inside the car if it's unlocked.

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So yeah, I mean, it's a it is a it's

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a part of life here in Charlotte. And by the way,

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like this is just something that everybody accepts and it's

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not acceptable, you know, but it's like, oh well, like

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if you're walking around downtown, you should expect to be assaulted.

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Oh well, I live downtown. I should expect to have

517
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a homeless person defecating on my front step. Oh well, like, no,

518
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we need to bring back the concept of shaming.

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Speaker 1: I don't think that's my idea.

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Speaker 2: I think I actually stole that from Brett Winterble now

521
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that i'm thinking about it, But it's true. It is true.

522
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He's exactly right if he said that, which I think

523
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he did. We should bring that back. There has to

524
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be a shunning, a shaming. It's not cool to engage

525
00:31:31,799 --> 00:31:34,839
in this behavior. To run around stealing cars should make

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you persona non grata in your family, in your community.

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Nobody should want to have anything to do with you.

528
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You are destroying the fabric of society that we all

529
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:50,039
enjoy living in. Let me get to some messages here,

530
00:31:50,559 --> 00:31:56,319
Andy says. The elephant in the room that absolutely nobody's

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talking about is that ever since Black Lives Matter took

532
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over downtown Arlotte and pushed the defunding the police idea,

533
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we've had very little, if any police presence downtown. I

534
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:07,359
can't remember the last time I saw a beat cop

535
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:11,400
walking downtown. Taking control of downtown uptown will not be

536
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an easy task, but possibly with the National Guard in

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place for a month, the police could maintain After that, look,

538
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I've been tying it back to BLM, back to twenty

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twenty and even before then, with the protests and the

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riots that erupted after the Keith lmnt Scott shooting, and

541
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nobody ever asks the city leadership about this, Nobody ever

542
00:32:33,799 --> 00:32:38,480
talks to them. Hey did celebrating BLM and the protests

543
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and the riots and the social justice stuff, like, do

544
00:32:41,799 --> 00:32:45,160
you think maybe this has long term implications for us?

545
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You know, I mean you elected Braxton Winston for crying

546
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out loud. Police are the ones, the only one of

547
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:57,359
the tools in the fight against crime. Until DAS and

548
00:32:57,480 --> 00:32:59,960
judges joined in the fight, crime cannot be fought effect

549
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aggressive enforcement by cops in connection with prosecution by DAS

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and sure swift sentences handed down by judges, crime will

551
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never be controlled.

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Speaker 1: Otherwise, that's exactly right, anonymous number.

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Speaker 2: All right, that'll do it for this episode. Thank you

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00:33:17,319 --> 00:33:19,279
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