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She is the Republican candidate for mayor of Charlotte.
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Rob Yates, so stay tuned for that. Obviously, one of
the big issues, if not the issue, in that mayor's
race for Charlotte is crime. So let me start with
the crime stats, which I'm sure coincidentally. I'm not saying
that facetiously. I mean I am fluent in sarcasm, so
I know sometimes it's hard to tell, but I'm sure
it's purely coincidence that the data dump yesterday by CMPD
came the day before early voting begin which is today.
Early voting begins today, and just in time, the data
is out on the previous where I should say, the
first three quarters of data on crime. This runs from
January through September.
Speaker 1: Okay, so.
Speaker 2: You know a nine month tally compared to the previous
time or the same time period previous year. So we're
looking at the first three quarters of twenty twenty four,
first three quarters of twenty twenty five, and CMPD is
highlighting that overall crime has dropped eight percent. Violent offenses
dropped twenty percent. So here's from their statement. Today, the
Charlotte Mecklenburg Police Department released its third quarter public Safety
report for January through September twenty twenty five, showcasing a
substantial decline in crime city wide.
Speaker 1: By the way, I see nothing in.
Speaker 2: The release about the long term trend going back, say
a decade, because the spike that we saw after the
summer of fiery but mostly peaceful rioting that has warped
the stats because we saw such an increase over the
course of two years essentially, and now it's dropping again.
So when you hear the statistics and remember about lies,
damnable lies and statistics that when you hear a decline
in the crime stats, to me, what's important is always, okay,
what's the historical trend line and is this a lower
level than it was pre COVID, because that's the marker.
Because when COVID hit, crime went through the roof. Because
it also overlaid with the George Floyd protests and all
of the quote bail reforms and judicial reforms that were
enacted by Democrat leaders all across America, Charlotte included, and
we're still dealing with this stuff today. And in fact,
to their credit, CMPD referenced the court system because in
my view, this is really the problem. It is the
court system. It's these judges that keep letting repeat offenders out.
Every single day. There's another story about somebody can emitting
some sort of violent offense and either they were a
a turnstiled defendant just in and out and in and
out and in and out, a repeat, repeat, repeat offender, right,
or it's somebody who was out on a cashless bail.
By the way, they did catch the guy that was
wanted for murder in Maryland who was let go from
the Mecklenburg County jail. The other day last week they
let him out. Think his name was Boatwright. They let
him out and they were like, well, we didn't have
any kind of warrant from the governor. Now Maryland disputes that.
Maryland says we did have a warrant for him. So
not really sure what's going on there, but they let
him out. But don't worry. He's not roaming our streets anymore.
Somehow or another, he did get picked up. So murder
suspect back behind bars. That's the latest I saw in
that story. But at least CMPD is calling attention to
the courts. Unlike every other Demo crat leader in Charlotte,
they have not spoken about the court system. They are
applying no pressure to their fellow Democrats, these lawyers with
the wardrobe change that sit.
Speaker 1: On the bench.
Speaker 2: They're not doing any kind of pr campaign against them
to try to get them to be tougher, particularly on the.
Speaker 1: Repeat, repeat offenders.
Speaker 2: So they found, as I mentioned, decrease in overall crime
eight percent, decrease in violent crime twenty percent. This is
for the entire city, for the entire CMPD footprint. Okay,
these encouraging trends reflect the department's commitment to data driven policing,
innovative crime prevention strategies, and the unwavering dedication of officers
working in close partnership with the community. Through the first
nine months of the year, overall crime has declined eight
percent compared to the same time last year. Twenty percent
reduction of violent crime that includes homicides, rapes, robberies, and
aggravated assaults, which in comus shootings. Property crime, which includes
residential and commercial auto theft and larceny, is down five percent. Now,
if you go deeper into those numbers, they're not all down.
Residential burglaries are down about one hundred, going from like
thirteen hundred down to twelve hundred, but commercial burglaries are
actually up. They're up by about seventy five. Larceny from
automobiles also up a little bit, went from like seventy
seven hundred, just under seventy seven hundred to a little
above seventy seven hundred, So I would call that flat line.
It was up by like twenty twenty cases. And by
the way, you actually can do a lot to help
in this regard. Everybody can lock your freaking car doors, people,
and don't leave your guns in your car, like these
are obvious things. I don't understand somebody who leaves a
gun in the glove box and leaves the car unlocked.
I used to come from a neighborhood. We didn't have
to worry about that. Okay, well, you know what, it's
a different time. You're in a different place. Got to
lock the doors, lock the car doors. Okay, there's my
soapbox moment for the Well, that's not true. I'm going
to probably I'm going to have a couple more. I
feel like I'm going to have a couple more. So
I should make the promise. That's the only one. A
quote from Charlotte Mecklenberg Police Deputy Chief Jackie Briley, who
said patrol officers are the most visible part of the department.
They're in our communities, building relationships to turning crime, providing
services to our residents. Every day, our officers intervene in disputes,
stop crimes in progress, and prevent violence without it ever
making the news. She's exactly right. She's exactly right. The
crimes that CMPD prevent never make the news, never because
they didn't happen, and it's not newsworthy. In some cases,
you don't even know you prevented a crime. You're just
walking around, some crime will seize you. They don't engage
in the activity. The cop doesn't know that. The only
person that knows that they were thwarted was the criminal.
And they're not going to you know, WBT news and
saying hey, I was going to do a crime and
then I saw a cop, so I didn't do it,
you know, So there's no way to track this stuff.
Speaker 1: But she is exactly right.
Speaker 2: But also I would point out here that she is
articulating a concept where more police presence, visible police presence,
leads to a reduction in crime. That's what she just said.
They are the most visible part of our department. They're
in the community, they're talking with residents, they're deterring crime.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: Their mere presence helps to reduce those numbers. Look, I
am a realist, I am a citizen of Realville, right,
because I know that you will never get to a
zero crime rate. That's never going to happen.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: However, this idea, and this is what I bristle at
the most, is this narrative that is being advanced by
city leaders that it's a perception of safety and CMPD
also articulated this yesterday in their press conference. There's this
that people don't perceive that they're safe, and if they
don't feel safe, then they're not safe. Right, that's this
narrative that they're using. Councilman Malcolm Graham said, if you
don't feel safe, you're not safe. And too many of
the citizens throughout the city aren't feeling safe. Well, what
does this narrative actually mean? It means you're delusional. That's
what they're saying to you, to me, to everybody, that
we are delusional. See crime rates down, but you have
this perception. But crime rates down, Yes, it may be down,
but that doesn't mean it's at an acceptable level.
Speaker 1: Oh well, I'm not saying that. Yeah, but you kind
of are.
Speaker 2: You kind of are saying that because you're saying, oh,
it's just your perception.
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the text line seven oh four number Anonymous says, do
you think it is merely coincidence that the de Carlos
Brown hearing for tomorrow was delayed six months and so
close to the election?
Speaker 1: I do yes.
Speaker 2: According to the reports that I have read, it was
actually it was supposed to be today, and it's called
a Rule twenty four hearing. It's for the state to
determine whether or not they're going to seek the death
penalty against de Carlos Brown Junior, the alleged murderer of
Arena Zarutzka on the light rail line. According to the
story of WBTV, the decision to delay the hearing came
from the defense team Brown and his attorney. They did
the reason for the delay was redacted. So I don't
know why that would be redacted, but it was blacked out.
Speaker 1: Uh from the documents.
Speaker 2: So like if you're looking at a death penalty case,
these things take a long time, and uh so it's
not unusual for there to be delays. So if it
had come from the DA's office or the court. I
may have some more suspicions, but the fact that it
came from the defense, that just seems to be sort
of a normal, a normal course of events, you know.
All right, let me get back to the crime stats
here that were released by c MPD.
Speaker 1: In fact, hang on a second, let me do do
do do?
Speaker 4: Do?
Speaker 1: You go over here?
Speaker 2: This is the story from WSOCTV by Eli Brand regarding
the CMPD crime stat reports for the first nine months
of the year, and he teases out one of the
comments made by CMPD during the press conference.
Speaker 5: Channel nine's Eli Brand joins us line from CMPD headquarters
where police just broke down this data and Eli, they
did so, but they also addressed this moment and how
people are feeling about their safety right now.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah.
Speaker 3: And they started with the statistics, of course, they said
overall crime is down eight percent. They said violent crime
like murders is down twenty percent this year as compared
to last year. At this point, but several CMPD speakers
did acknowledge that despite the numbers they presented, people may
not be feeling safe in the city of Charlotte. They
blamed that feeling on multiple things. They blamed it on
high profile incidents in social media those some of them,
but they also highlighted repeat offenders. That's something they really
hammered down on. They say it is several of the
same people that are committing crimes being released in committing
crimes again. That are some of the biggest issues in the.
Speaker 1: City so far this year.
Speaker 3: CMPD says sixty percent of people that are arrested for
violent crimes had been charged with something in the past.
Speakers said CMPD has a good relationship with the Mecklenburg
County District Attorney's Office, but despite the work that officers
do on the ground, it may take changes in the
behavior of judges to make a big dent in crimes committed.
Speaker 6: It takes more than just CNPD in our relationship with
the DA's office. You know, we have to do a
deeper dive and see what's best for some of these
repeat offenders. And so, you know, eventually the conversations will
have to stand to the judges and the sentences that
they're receiving.
Speaker 3: Yes, and CMPD did go on to present some of
the solutions they're trying to put in place to try
and curb crime. They did mentioned patrols that are going
to be in cre think, particularly in the Uptown division.
Last week we told you that the department plans to
increase their presence, especially near bars and other forms of nightlife.
Speaker 2: All right, So that's an Eli Brand at WSOCTV in
the quote there, or I should say the SoundBite was
Deputy Chief Jackie Briley, and she's exactly right now. In
their press release from CMPD. Despite the encouraging progress in
the first nine months of twenty twenty five in reducing
overall crime, repeat offenders continue to inflate crime stats and
victimization numbers across the city, negatively contributing to the perception
of public safety. Now, think about what she said there
and what Eli Brand was reporting. Sixty percent of the
people that they arrest have priors. That is what we
call recidivism. These are oftentimes career criminals, and for some reason,
our local court system is incapable or unwilling to identify
these threats to the society, giving them what forty second
chances or something like. I understand second chances, maybe even
a third, but at some point when it is clear
that somebody is engaged in sociopathic behavior or psychopathic behavior.
They are a threat to the society. You need to
protect people because this line here about. You know, they
inflate the crime stats and victimization numbers. Okay, the victimization
numbers are not like inflated artificially. They're inflated because people
are being victimized by the same people over and over
and over again.
Speaker 1: This is not new.
Speaker 2: This has been going on in Charlotte my entire career here,
literally my entire career. When I was a reporter. I
started in nineteen ninety nine here and back then I
was putting a mic in the face of the Zen
District Attorney Peter Gilchrist, asking the very same questions about repeat,
repeat offenders. At some point, people in the court system
should have recognized what's not working. And I can tell
you what's not working. Whatever you're doing right now, that's
not working. Okay, whatever you're doing, just stop doing it.
Do the opposite of what you're doing now.
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chat with Alex. Hello Alex, welcome to the program.
Speaker 4: Hey Hemy, Hey Byte, how you doing.
Speaker 1: I'm doing all right?
Speaker 4: How are you okay? Yeah? I just want to comment
that last month I mailed a letter to President Trump
about the crime situation here in Charlotte. I mean, I've
lived my entire life, almost sixty two years on the
West side of Charlotte, and you know what a high
crime area that is. And over the years, I've seen
the city's crime problem escalate dramatically, and I felt it
was high time for corrective action to be taken. I
mentioned in or that the local political leaders are in
it and the judicial system is corrupt, and I say,
we need someone in authority to with the ambition, intelligence
and encourage to take control of this crime infested Democrat run.
Speaker 2: What do you so, what do you think of the U,
the Charlotte Mecklenberg FOP, the Fraternal Order of Police, their
request for National Guard troops to come.
Speaker 4: Well, I support one hundred percent. I'm with them all
the way. I mean, if they see the need for it,
and ordinary citizens like me see the need for it,
I think it's the political leaders that are screwing up
that they're just too proud to admit we have a
problem in the city. I mean, well, they.
Speaker 2: Also I think they also don't want to anger a
large portion of their political voting base that wants these types.
Speaker 4: Of a lot of vote Democrat, you know you're.
Speaker 2: Right, Well, no, I mean it is like you've got
you've got people who are connected to a lot of
these services, uh the service providers essentially you know, uh
non offits NGOs, and they get contracts, they get they
get close to power, they get a seat at the table,
they get labeled a stakeholder, they get included in discussions,
and it puffs up their their sense of self importance
that they're actually you know, making a difference in all
of this. Meanwhile, they are deriving financial benefit as well
for themselves and whatever organization they're working on. And that's why,
like this is a there is a comparative with like
the homeless agencies that work out in like Los Angeles
and San Francisco, and they're they're not really incentivized to
solve the problem because if they solve the problem, then
there's no use for them anymore.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just bureaucratic nonsense. Also, about a month ago,
was talking with my cousin down in George and we
were discussing the crime problem in cities like Atlanta and Charlotte,
and I mentioned that if the Devil ever became mayor
of Charlotte, he wouldn't have to change much. I mean,
this has got This is gotten so evil it doesn't
need a mayor, it needs an exorcist.
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, you gets to do you get a
double thank you, Alex. I appreciate the call, sir, Ah
right bud to take care. Yes, sir. Here's a quote
from Charlotte Mecklimburg Police Department Sergeant Todd Martin of the
Southeast Service Area Crime Reduction Unit or the CRU or
as I call it, the crew. He said quote, we
continue to see a troubling pattern. A disproportionate number of
violent incidents and property crimes are being committed by individuals
with extensive criminal histories, many of whom continue to cycle
through the justice system without facing meaningful consequences. The cycle
of catch and release does not reduce crime in our community. Correct,
it does not. This is not even a new lesson
to be learned. We already know this policing, crime fighting, right,
court systeming. We've all people in these industries have known this.
You can't keep letting people break the law and then
letting them go without any punishment. And I understand, like, oh,
well they made a mistake. Okay, how many mistakes do
you get to make? Maybe that should be the conversation,
how many mistakes does somebody get to make, five, ten,
whatever it is, like, give me a number.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Like I'm looking.
Speaker 2: For an optimal standard. I'm looking for something, a benchmark,
you might say, something that I can judge policy and
results off of.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: This is why I ask whenever we have the conversation
about teacher pay or per pupil expenditures in the education industry,
I'm always asking, well, what's the optimal per pupil expenditure?
Give me a number. What's the number that it takes
to educate all the children per kid? Tell me what's
the number? And they don't ever give me the number.
They were like, well, maybe if we just get to
the national average. Do you even know what that number is?
They don't teacher pay. Same thing, same thing here. What's
the number? How many violent offenses do I get to
commit before I get denied bail, before I before I
stand in front of a jury and face actual prison
time for it.
Speaker 1: What's the number? Is it one?
Speaker 2: You don't get a second chance if you commit certain crimes. Okay,
let's have that list. And I know they can make
the lists for crying out loud, they made the list
on cashless bail. Every misdemeanor category two and three you
get to get cashless bail, you get to.
Speaker 1: Walk, and some of those. I mentioned this the other day.
Speaker 2: I ran through, I looked over all of the charges
and this comes from our local court system. They decide this.
The judge in charge of our district, that's Judge Wiggins.
He decides they set the bail schedules for all of
these crimes. And some of the misdemeanors that are included
in that list of cashless bail crimes are things like stalking.
It's like stalking. Really you get charged with stalking, which
is pretty hard to do. Ask a stalking victim. It's
pretty difficult to get the charges to stick. There was
also assault. You can assault people and get to walk
on a cashless bail. Now, I feel like that shouldn't
be something you get to just walk home after. Inconsistent
accountability for repeat offenders, both adults and juveniles undermines community
safety and places an undue burden on victims, neighborhoods, and
law enforcement resources. Right, So I always keep that in
mind as well, because you hear democrats talking about how
we have to you know, give more money to police
departments so they can increase cops pay and do more recruitment.
They can fund more recruitment and retention. I don't oppose that. However,
they keep citing this as the reason why, you know,
crime is up and it's difficult to fight this crime
and that sort of thing, and they're like, well, we
need the General Assembly to fund these things, even though
that is traditionally the role of the local governments to do. However,
if you think that that is a huge part of
the problem, then why wouldn't you be assailing the judges
that allow the people to keep walking out onto the street,
requiring more police officers and resources to be devoted to
rearresting them when they reoffend. It doesn't make any sense,
in which case, reassess your assumptions. Right, if you don't
understand the dults, reassess your assumptions. And my assumption is
that they're serious about trying to improve public safety, Let
me reassess that assumption because what you're saying is not
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I'll get to your text messages in a moment. First,
here is a message from Russ on Twitter. Russ says,
just spitballing here, But maybe the perception of crime is
driven by people's real experience.
Speaker 1: I believe that's.
Speaker 2: Called our lived experience, and that Trump's reality data. Anything
else your lived experience.
Speaker 1: That's the standard. I didn't make up the standard.
Speaker 2: That's been the standard though for like the last almost decade. Okay,
he says, thirty years ago, my car was broken into
at a shopping center. I was the outlier in my
friend group, even though most of us lived in or
close to sketchy areas. Now I can think of about
a dozen people I know who have had homes or
cars broken into, cars stolen, and experienced assaults in the
last few years, all in the nicer parts of town
or downtown. Also, the homeless population seems more prevalent, a
little more unstable, more muttering.
Speaker 1: Unpredictable movements, etc. Etc. I will never forget.
Speaker 2: I was at a CMPD press conference and the public
Information officer at the time.
Speaker 1: Her name is Julie Hill.
Speaker 2: She used to be PIO for the City of Charlotte
and then moved over to CMPD and I had a good
working relationship with her. We both understood, you know, what
our roles were. And I was talking to her either
before or after one of these data dumps, one of
these crime stat update press conferences, and I said to
her that I said, if I had to guess, I
would say probably almost everybody has been affected by crime.
And she pushed back and said she didn't believe that
to be the case, and I said, no, I think
it's true, whether you personally have been affected by crime
or you know somebody who has been affected by crime.
And she again pushed back, saying she didn't believe that
was accurate. And she said that she did not she
was not a victim of any crime, and I said, well,
I am, I was multiple times. So now you know
somebody who's been affected by crime. There go proving my point. Yeah,
And I think that is the case. And the longer
a city allows this sort of behavior to occur and persist,
the more people are going to fall into my category. Yeah,
I mean I had a guy stole stuff out of
my shed at the very first house that I owned.
He stole my lawnmower, next house that I owned, burglarized.
Neighborhood I live in now repeatedly hit by you know,
car door poppers, you know the kids that get dropped
off at the front of the neighborhood. They roam through
the neighborhood checking people's doors, lifting up the door handles,
and stealing everything from inside the car if it's unlocked.
So yeah, I mean, it's a it is a it's
a part of life here in Charlotte. And by the way,
like this is just something that everybody accepts and it's
not acceptable, you know, but it's like, oh well, like
if you're walking around downtown, you should expect to be assaulted.
Oh well, I live downtown. I should expect to have
a homeless person defecating on my front step. Oh well, like, no,
we need to bring back the concept of shaming.
Speaker 1: I don't think that's my idea.
Speaker 2: I think I actually stole that from Brett Winterble now
that i'm thinking about it, But it's true. It is true.
He's exactly right if he said that, which I think
he did. We should bring that back. There has to
be a shunning, a shaming. It's not cool to engage
in this behavior. To run around stealing cars should make
you persona non grata in your family, in your community.
Nobody should want to have anything to do with you.
You are destroying the fabric of society that we all
enjoy living in. Let me get to some messages here,
Andy says. The elephant in the room that absolutely nobody's
talking about is that ever since Black Lives Matter took
over downtown Arlotte and pushed the defunding the police idea,
we've had very little, if any police presence downtown. I
can't remember the last time I saw a beat cop
walking downtown. Taking control of downtown uptown will not be
an easy task, but possibly with the National Guard in
place for a month, the police could maintain After that, look,
I've been tying it back to BLM, back to twenty
twenty and even before then, with the protests and the
riots that erupted after the Keith lmnt Scott shooting, and
nobody ever asks the city leadership about this, Nobody ever
talks to them. Hey did celebrating BLM and the protests
and the riots and the social justice stuff, like, do
you think maybe this has long term implications for us?
You know, I mean you elected Braxton Winston for crying
out loud. Police are the ones, the only one of
the tools in the fight against crime. Until DAS and
judges joined in the fight, crime cannot be fought effect
aggressive enforcement by cops in connection with prosecution by DAS
and sure swift sentences handed down by judges, crime will
never be controlled.
Speaker 1: Otherwise, that's exactly right, anonymous number.
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