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<v Speaker 1>All right, So we got a MAVs game tonight, and

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<v Speaker 1>let's say that. Somebody listening right now, They're like, I'm hungry.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I want to eat pizza tonight. Let's everybody

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<v Speaker 1>on three think about where you'd want to go get

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<v Speaker 1>pizza tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I'm into this, Kevin.

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<v Speaker 1>Ready, when I say, I'm gonna say one two three,

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<v Speaker 1>and then when I would say go, you the go. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So we say where we want to go in place

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<v Speaker 1>of go yeah, okay, so it be one two three

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<v Speaker 1>go yeah, So one two three the pizza place?

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<v Speaker 2>Ready, one two three?

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<v Speaker 3>I want to go to America Kitchen tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't Christina and say anything.

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<v Speaker 4>I said it what you say, and that's.

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<v Speaker 3>What I said, So I said, I got confused.

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<v Speaker 1>I said I want to go to Andrews's American Pizza

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<v Speaker 1>Kitchen because I did. I got caught up on the instructions.

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<v Speaker 1>Casey KT said pizza Hunt. I said, no, you didn't.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to Andrews.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Andrews American Pizza Kitchen in Plano, Texas one location

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<v Speaker 1>Preston and Plano Park, where they've mastered five different types

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<v Speaker 1>of pizza Dallas style pizza. They've got Chicago style, Detroit style,

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<v Speaker 1>Tavern style, and New York style in a massive assortment

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<v Speaker 1>of beers from Rollertown Beer Works. That's a brewer. We're

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<v Speaker 1>invested in only one location and it was named the

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<v Speaker 1>best pizzeria and all of DFW by readers of the

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<v Speaker 1>Dallas Morning News. So if you're looking for something special

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<v Speaker 1>when it comes to pizza, not just the regular Sam Old,

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<v Speaker 1>same ol like KT, go to Andrews American Pizza Kitchen

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<v Speaker 1>in Plano.

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<v Speaker 2>But right now it's time for Kevin.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm offended by that Sam Old samul I go to Andrews.

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<v Speaker 5>Got a boy about all the styles. Okay, so the

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<v Speaker 5>Cowboys big press conference, you know, here we go. We're

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<v Speaker 5>gonna roll out our new head coach, Brian Schottenheimer. Poor

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<v Speaker 5>guy Brian took it in the shorts all weekend on

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<v Speaker 5>social media when the Cowboys decided to do a you know,

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<v Speaker 5>seven pm news dump on Friday night, the anti cowvising

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<v Speaker 5>the Cowboys are telling you that they know this is

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<v Speaker 5>an uninspiring hire, which is wild. They could still interview

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<v Speaker 5>Cliff Kingsbury, they could still see what's happened with Kellen.

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<v Speaker 3>Kellen would take this job.

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<v Speaker 5>If the Cowboys offered him this job, he would take it,

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<v Speaker 5>so he didn't have to do this, but he done it.

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<v Speaker 3>For reasons unknown.

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<v Speaker 1>You gotta feel bad for Schottenheimer because everyone is projecting

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<v Speaker 1>how dissatisfied they are with Jerry Jones onto this guy

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<v Speaker 1>who's just standing there. Yeah, I'm sure he'll be fine,

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<v Speaker 1>likable guy. I'm sure it's fine. That's great. The point

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<v Speaker 1>of the outrage from the fan base is because the

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<v Speaker 1>process was clearly dysfunctional, as is everything with the Cowboys,

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<v Speaker 1>because all they care about is making money more they

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<v Speaker 1>care about winning.

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<v Speaker 5>And I'm choosing to look at this through one way,

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<v Speaker 5>and that one way is at least McCarthy's not here anymore.

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<v Speaker 5>So while I don't love this higher at all or

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<v Speaker 5>like it, or I think it's a smart and good plan,

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<v Speaker 5>McCarthy's gone.

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<v Speaker 3>So whatever, And this Jerry says as.

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<v Speaker 5>Much today today on the radio, now on the internet.

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<v Speaker 6>Mike McCarthy left some good stuff here. Crothur's hell of coach.

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<v Speaker 6>It was time for a change. I've heard it criticized.

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<v Speaker 6>We've spent five days getting to come to that decision.

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<v Speaker 6>The reasons we came to that decision is because there

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<v Speaker 6>was this decision available to us as well. Shoty has

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<v Speaker 6>fantastic support among our players, key players, real support. I've

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<v Speaker 6>heard Shoddy referred to as maybe old school with his

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<v Speaker 6>offensive philosophy. Well, i'll tell you one thing, Shoty has

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<v Speaker 6>a good feel for not only the offensive philosophies where

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<v Speaker 6>they are today, but where they're going to go and

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<v Speaker 6>certainly where it has been. That's rare to come in

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<v Speaker 6>here with this kind of energy. That's kind of I'm

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<v Speaker 6>going to show them. That's rare to combine those two things.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, but I know.

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<v Speaker 1>Too much fatigue, Shoty fatigue. Yeah, I have Shody fatigue.

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<v Speaker 1>I have Jerry fatigue.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just the whole thing sucks.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll say this.

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<v Speaker 5>I've heard this and I don't know if it's true

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<v Speaker 5>or not that when the offense the Cowy's offense did

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<v Speaker 5>change after Cooper Rush's first game where he I think

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<v Speaker 5>they had forty five yards passing, but they did open

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<v Speaker 5>it up and start doing some things little bit differently.

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<v Speaker 3>The office was humming for a little bit.

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<v Speaker 5>What I heard is that Shody and the deference that

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<v Speaker 5>he was showing towards McCarthy, started to speak out a

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<v Speaker 5>little more and can tell Mike, hey, job.

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<v Speaker 1>Shot, he fixed it. Shot is the one who fixed it,

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<v Speaker 1>because keep in mind, they chose McCarthy overshot. He until

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<v Speaker 1>McCarthy said, no, I don't want to be here to

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<v Speaker 1>hold the job for Witney.

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<v Speaker 5>So that's what's what's been out there. It's also it

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<v Speaker 5>doesn't seem like I saw John michaud to tweet this earlier.

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<v Speaker 5>That doesn't look like Witten will be on the staff. No,

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<v Speaker 5>so what that's I thought that was a big part

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<v Speaker 5>of it, and we'll we'll see.

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<v Speaker 2>That's very surprised.

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<v Speaker 3>And still change. I mean, dude, the names.

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<v Speaker 5>There's one of the names for tight end coaches, the

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<v Speaker 5>Falcons tight end coach. The Falcons a few years ago

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<v Speaker 5>drafted Kyle Pitts at the number four pick in the

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<v Speaker 5>draft and he has been terrible. But we're gonna go

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<v Speaker 5>with the tight end coach from the team who couldn't

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<v Speaker 5>make the top five pick be a good tight end.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, you know what are we doing?

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<v Speaker 1>So what if Schottenheimer said all coached his team for

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<v Speaker 1>one point five years as long as Witting's not on

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think I like that a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the that's the intinuitative business that we've been wanting.

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<v Speaker 1>We lack guys with balls that ask for things as

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<v Speaker 1>long as you don't have to pay him none.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, I told you who he talked to about in Shoty, the.

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<v Speaker 1>Guy that the Graiders were hiring, that you came on

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<v Speaker 1>the show and told us we should put all our

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Well you know those texts were coming in. Yeah, pretty

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<v Speaker 5>hot that day. It turns out the truth about Jerry

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<v Speaker 5>and Pete talking that was legit.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, how did Shoty find out?

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<v Speaker 6>I kind of set him up. I said, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>you are first time coach, and I believe we're hanging

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<v Speaker 6>around the rim. I think we got in place a

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<v Speaker 6>team that can get there right now. I had other

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<v Speaker 6>coaches tell me that we're wanting the job.

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<v Speaker 2>You're right there.

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<v Speaker 5>Hanging around the rim is one of my least favorite

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<v Speaker 5>terms that Jerry and Steven use.

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<v Speaker 3>We're close.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, you guys didn't make the playoffs. You did not

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<v Speaker 5>even get a shot off you. We're not hanging around

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<v Speaker 5>the rim.

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<v Speaker 6>I like that.

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<v Speaker 1>You said, shot You know our guys nickname is shoddy.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh god, they're so bad.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, Steven, all right now, Steven quite day for Steven right,

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<v Speaker 5>Steven showed the difference that we're talking about. I gotta

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<v Speaker 5>set there new glasses. Occasionally would laugh on the hot mic.

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<v Speaker 4>I need to see the new glasses.

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<v Speaker 3>Here's why it was shoddy though.

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<v Speaker 7>You know, it's not just the x as an oath.

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<v Speaker 7>We obviously went extensively, uh through the x'es and o's.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, but it's not the x's and o's. But it

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<v Speaker 3>is a little bit. We went through those.

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<v Speaker 4>Is that the third time they referenced that.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, which worries me, Oh my god, because that's telling

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<v Speaker 5>me that he's not an X and o's genius.

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<v Speaker 7>You know, it's not just the xes an oath. We

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<v Speaker 7>obviously went extensively through the x'es and o's, but we also, uh,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, you get into the schedules, You get into

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<v Speaker 7>how you get your players motivated, how you take care

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<v Speaker 7>of your players. You know a lot of people sometimes

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<v Speaker 7>scratch their head while why would you go with a

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<v Speaker 7>first time head coach? You know, that's been the way

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<v Speaker 7>of the league. These days, most are going with these

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<v Speaker 7>young offensive wizards that hadn't been head coaches. But I

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<v Speaker 7>think we've got a better version of that because of

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<v Speaker 7>Shoddy's experience.

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<v Speaker 3>We're talking in circles.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and today is the day that I first noticed

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<v Speaker 5>Steven's is usually pretty smooth because he didn't say much,

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<v Speaker 5>but today was the first day I noticed him almost

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<v Speaker 5>having a struggle to find the words to say dude.

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<v Speaker 5>And I think and by the way, I think Stephen

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<v Speaker 5>was a fan of this hiring too. I think sim

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<v Speaker 5>was absolutely cool with this.

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<v Speaker 1>All this hiring process was was we want McCarthy. We

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<v Speaker 1>can't get a deal done with McCarthy. It seemed like

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<v Speaker 1>a mutual parting of ways. In fact, you know, walking

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<v Speaker 1>away from the explosion, not facing I mean, that's McCarthy.

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<v Speaker 3>Are you hearing that?

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<v Speaker 5>Because I'm like mutual party ways is like, I don't

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<v Speaker 5>know everything hearing is McCarthy justaid I'm not.

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<v Speaker 3>Doing this anymore?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, great? Right now.

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<v Speaker 5>McCarthy might have also been told he has a really

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<v Speaker 5>good shot at the bear's job.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, but did they say we'll we want you to

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<v Speaker 1>sign a two year deal in mentor witting.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it's to said they probably low balled the crap

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<v Speaker 5>out of him. He said they wanted McCarthy more than

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<v Speaker 5>they wanted to leverage McCarthy.

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<v Speaker 1>Regardless, I feel like he walked away. Either he was

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<v Speaker 1>a full breakup or it was mutual at a minute,

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<v Speaker 1>but he said bye. And so their search was who

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<v Speaker 1>else that's already in the building can we hire? That's

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<v Speaker 1>what he's the most qualified of of all the other

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<v Speaker 1>guys are already hired on the payroll, Shody was the

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<v Speaker 1>best of that.

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<v Speaker 3>They talk a lot to.

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<v Speaker 5>They mentioned a million times how good shot he is

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<v Speaker 5>with the guys and the players, and they mentioned Dak

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<v Speaker 5>a ton which made me go, Okay, Dak might have

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<v Speaker 5>wanted Shoty over Kellen.

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<v Speaker 1>He did so, dude, if you look at it that

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<v Speaker 1>Dak was at the press conference to send a message

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<v Speaker 1>that this is my guy, this is who I wanted.

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<v Speaker 1>And in that regard, it's smart to make your sixty

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<v Speaker 1>million dollar man as comfortable as he can be.

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<v Speaker 2>But he was.

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<v Speaker 1>The offense was a big part of the problem. Obviously

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<v Speaker 1>the injuries were too sure, but the offense has not

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<v Speaker 1>been great. Guys could not get open, there was no separation.

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<v Speaker 1>There wasn't a lot of imagination with this scheme. You're

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<v Speaker 1>keeping a guy that's a part of the failed thing.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and this is where I get into a bit

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<v Speaker 5>of a problem in my head. Is Okay, Schottenheimer's track

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<v Speaker 5>record is not great, but he was wanting different stuff

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<v Speaker 5>than McCarthy. I think, you know, with the offense. So

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<v Speaker 5>it's like, Okay, does McCarthy get the blame for that?

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<v Speaker 5>Does shot he get a fresh start? I love this shot.

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<v Speaker 5>He was asked what's your offensive philosophic?

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<v Speaker 8>And the starting point for me would be things that

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<v Speaker 8>our players do well. You're always going to start with that.

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<v Speaker 8>If your system's not flexible enough to do what your

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<v Speaker 8>players do well, then you're probably in the wrong business.

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<v Speaker 8>But a big believer in shifts and motions to distort

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<v Speaker 8>things like that, we're going to do a great job

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<v Speaker 8>of marrying our runs and our passes and make those

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<v Speaker 8>look the same. There's a tempo element that we're excited

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<v Speaker 8>to mix in allows them to play free. So when

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<v Speaker 8>you go fast and you're playing on the ball, these guys,

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<v Speaker 8>it's a little bit more like like.

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<v Speaker 2>Pick up basketball.

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<v Speaker 8>Those would probably be the biggest things that I would

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<v Speaker 8>say from an offensive standpoint.

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<v Speaker 3>This is good. That is the part I can live

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<v Speaker 3>with because this is what Washington's doing. There. We go

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<v Speaker 3>and it's a Cliff thing. Now, I didn't think Cliff

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<v Speaker 3>would be great for Dak.

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<v Speaker 5>Cliffs always needed a quarterback who could bail out, like

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<v Speaker 5>Hoo's the open guy.

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<v Speaker 3>We're not thinking because I don't need you to think.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm gonna get a guy open for you on the

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<v Speaker 5>play and then we're gonna go faster up to the line.

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<v Speaker 5>We're gonna be conditioned, and that's a big part of this.

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<v Speaker 5>We're conditioned offensive linemen are conditioned to play fast and

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<v Speaker 5>not huddle up. And if he's gonna work that in,

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<v Speaker 5>I do think that's good because then Dak's not thinking

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<v Speaker 5>as much, and I think we know it's way better

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<v Speaker 5>for Dak if it's just there quick. Now they could

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<v Speaker 5>use another wide receiver if we're going to do that,

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<v Speaker 5>and are we gonna run the ball and all that stuff.

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<v Speaker 5>But I like, if they're gonna play fast, and that's

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<v Speaker 5>the they're gonna mix in, and that's something that he'd

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<v Speaker 5>been wanting to mix in. And McCarthy's like, no, I

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<v Speaker 5>want to look at the play sheet, dude. When you

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<v Speaker 5>can just say number seventeen on your wristband, just call

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<v Speaker 5>that play real quick, then I think that's good. So

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<v Speaker 5>I'm there's the tiny glimmer of hope I have from today.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, And look, regardless, they took last offseason off, they

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<v Speaker 1>didn't really participate in free agency, and they've missed on

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<v Speaker 1>their last two first round picks. Yeah, so the front

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<v Speaker 1>office is not doing a great job, and so what

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<v Speaker 1>are they gonna do something different this offseason?

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<v Speaker 2>No, shot, he's just gonna fix it.

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<v Speaker 5>Shot, he's gonna fix it. That's the whole thing is,

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<v Speaker 5>we're gonna add to it. We're gonna draft new players.

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<v Speaker 5>We're gonna get those, but we'll make up for the

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<v Speaker 5>guys you lose.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 5>And this is where they did mention multiple times that

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<v Speaker 5>they wanted Brian Colin plays.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like, okay, well no one else did.

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<v Speaker 5>But maybe you guys wanted Brian to take over the

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<v Speaker 5>play calling for Mike and maybe that was a part

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<v Speaker 5>of the Mike McCarthy negotiation.

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<v Speaker 1>But this was not even their plan all along. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it was not. They tried to bring McCarthy back. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what's weird. They denied his interview with the Bears

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<v Speaker 1>because he's like, he's our guy. If they were so

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<v Speaker 1>set on Shoddy, they would have said yes, bears.

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<v Speaker 3>Please take him. We got shot. Okay, here's the last

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<v Speaker 3>role to play. I'm glad you went there.

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<v Speaker 5>Jane Slater at the NFL Network asked a really great

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<v Speaker 5>question and Jerry tries to wiggle out of it, and

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<v Speaker 5>then he throws Dak under the bus.

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<v Speaker 9>Jeane Slater, NFL Network, Jerry, do a lot of us

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<v Speaker 9>on the outside. It did look like this process took

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<v Speaker 9>a bit. Was there a point during your conversations with

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<v Speaker 9>Mike that you thought that he would stay?

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<v Speaker 6>Well, thank you for that. I wouldn't aware of any clock.

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<v Speaker 6>Where's the clock?

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<v Speaker 3>There?

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<v Speaker 6>Held a lot more important things than a clock. Take

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<v Speaker 6>a long time to do this. I have screwed around

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<v Speaker 6>with clocks in my life. I wouldn't get to be

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<v Speaker 6>sitting up here. I heard this share that we didn't

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<v Speaker 6>get Dak signed quick enough. Dak, you're sitting right back there.

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<v Speaker 6>You want to stand up and tell him you had

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<v Speaker 6>something to do with that.

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<v Speaker 2>No, thank you didn't get Lamb signing quick enough.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, here's they have many more things to think about.

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<v Speaker 2>That clock.

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<v Speaker 4>It's unbelievable contract actually not a clock.

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<v Speaker 5>But go ahead, Jerry, pretty good though, to throw Deck

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<v Speaker 5>under the bus and decks like yeah, I mean we

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<v Speaker 5>did have a lot to do with that, like right

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<v Speaker 5>to get the most so