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Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to the show. This is the Cult
Speaker 1: of Conspiracy and my name's Jonathan, and today we bring
Speaker 1: back our favorite peach that that has ever peached. It's
Speaker 1: Julia from the Cosmic Peach podcast. Welcome back to the Cult.
Speaker 2: Hi, I'm so excited to be here. I was having withdraws.
Speaker 2: I missed you guys, and it was definitely overdue time
Speaker 2: to come back.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, yeah, it was all right. So before we get started,
Speaker 1: there's a couple of things. Julia decided to surprise us
Speaker 1: on this episode. We are going into this absolutely blind.
Speaker 1: We don't know what's going on, which that's my favorite.
Speaker 1: I like being surprised that way. No, I just everything's
Speaker 1: authentic in that sense because typically whenever we get a
Speaker 1: guest there, we know what the topic is, so we'll
Speaker 1: do a little back research so we don't sound retarded.
Speaker 1: But for this one, we trust Julia and so this
Speaker 1: is the way it's gonna be. And number two, Jacobs
Speaker 1: Canter is being stupid, So what he's doing for this
Speaker 1: podcast is uh, he's recording it from his phone, So
Speaker 1: if he sounds a little bit distorted, now you know.
Speaker 3: I apologize in advance if my audio is complete. Ass
Speaker 3: Not only am I fighting a head cold, but of
Speaker 3: course my mic and computer would have to have some
Speaker 3: sort of a shit the bad moments.
Speaker 5: My apologies. But it is still fourth quarter.
Speaker 3: I still have not heard a whistle yet, and we're
Speaker 3: still pushing the fuck forward.
Speaker 5: Here we go.
Speaker 2: I thought he was just joining us from Antarctica. You
Speaker 2: should have just went with.
Speaker 4: That as Oh no, shit, this opportunity, damn it.
Speaker 5: I know.
Speaker 1: So Julia laying on us. What are we talking about today?
Speaker 5: We got so.
Speaker 2: I always try to find a topic that will not
Speaker 2: disappoint and is kind of interactive for you guys. So
Speaker 2: I've been doing a little bit of research on some
Speaker 2: conspiracy theories in ancient legends from Tibet. Are you familiar
Speaker 2: with any of the conspiracy theories coming out.
Speaker 1: Of Tibet, like spiritual conspiracies among other things.
Speaker 3: Okay, we're talking strictly like spiritual awakenings and like powers
Speaker 3: that they are claiming to have.
Speaker 5: Are we talking about cryptids?
Speaker 3: Because there's not it's not Sam Squanche things that people
Speaker 3: are seeing, but in Tibet they are seeing yetis which
Speaker 3: is like a side tangent.
Speaker 5: So I mean, are we talking cryptids? Are we talking
Speaker 5: supernatural human abilities?
Speaker 4: What?
Speaker 5: What? What level you mean here?
Speaker 2: Well, I'm hoping to actually get political even and I'm
Speaker 2: gonna provide you a buffet of conspiracies tonight that I've
Speaker 2: been looking into and we're gonna talk cryptids, spiritual politics,
Speaker 2: ancient mysteries, all of it, and it's so relevant to today. Actually,
Speaker 2: it's I think you guys will love it. I think
Speaker 2: that actually somewhere in Tibet there's like a vortex, if
Speaker 2: you will, an axis Monday, a place where it's so high,
Speaker 2: you know, Mount Everest obviously that's the altitude is so
Speaker 2: high that maybe there's a connection there. And the stuff
Speaker 2: that they're seeing is absolutely ridiculous in Tibet and all
Speaker 2: of the legends that come out of there, and it's
Speaker 2: actually said that Tibet was the abode of the gods,
Speaker 2: and it was it was like the kingdom of the gods,
Speaker 2: and not in a spiritual sense, but in a physical
Speaker 2: sense that there was an actual kingdom and they physically
Speaker 2: lived there and it's a lost kingdom. And where they
Speaker 2: say that this kingdom is, there's so many Ufo sidings,
Speaker 2: lights in the sky, mass vanishings, deaths and uh, I
Speaker 2: mean people go to trek up the side of this
Speaker 2: mountain hundreds of times a year and they can't even
Speaker 2: make it up and die on the voyage. So it's
Speaker 2: like all this death and energy is feeding whatever is hiding.
Speaker 3: Is that one particular mountain where all these deaths are happening.
Speaker 3: Because like, and you brought up politics, I know that
Speaker 3: China has been occupying certain areas of Tibet for the
Speaker 3: last decade or two. They've been pushing into Mongolia the
Speaker 3: same way they've been pushing in Nepaul, India. They've they've
Speaker 3: been doing that a good bit so conspiratorial political talk.
Speaker 5: I'm here for the mountain that you're referring to.
Speaker 3: Was it a range of mountains or like one particular
Speaker 3: Like the Greeks have Mount Olympus and that was the
Speaker 3: place where the gods lived, that one spot.
Speaker 5: What's Tibet see it as?
Speaker 2: So we're gonna be talking about Mount Everest, but we're
Speaker 2: all also going to be talking about Mount Kailash, which
Speaker 2: actually just in April of this year, they have discovered
Speaker 2: and anybody can google it. They have discovered that Mount
Speaker 2: Kilash is a man made vacuum pyramid and it has
Speaker 2: many interlocking pyramids within like a short distance of it.
Speaker 2: And it's even bigger. I think they said it's three
Speaker 2: times bigger than the pyramid in Egypt, the Giza Pyramid.
Speaker 2: And all this time we just thought it was a mountain,
Speaker 2: but it turns out that it is a whole ass pyramid.
Speaker 2: And then you get all these legends about this Shambala
Speaker 2: which is the abode of the gods, and that they
Speaker 2: lived in the mountains in a cloaked kingdom. And now
Speaker 2: that they're saying that Mount Kailash is a peer, it
Speaker 2: just seems to make sense to me that we're not
Speaker 2: talking about something esoteric as much as we're talking about
Speaker 2: something very very physical.
Speaker 1: Wow, all right, So whenever you're talking about like vortex,
Speaker 1: are we talking about like same kind of deal as
Speaker 1: like Sedona, Arizona, that kind of vortex, like where weird
Speaker 1: shit is always happening. People are moving there. It's like
Speaker 1: super high price to go live there and everything because
Speaker 1: they know that there's like some kind of natural earth energy.
Speaker 1: Is it pretty similar to that.
Speaker 2: Well, the Tibetan Buddhism has a lot of connection to
Speaker 2: Mount Kailash, and they take the pilgrims trail up there
Speaker 2: and they actually what they'll do is they'll take a
Speaker 2: step up the mountain, prostrate themselves straight on the ground,
Speaker 2: get back up, take another step, prostrate, another step, prostrate,
Speaker 2: and a lot of people die of dehydration or their
Speaker 2: bodies just give out on this pilgrim's trail trying to
Speaker 2: get up to Mount Kyelash. So not only do you
Speaker 2: have a lot of weird deaths going on, people are
Speaker 2: seeing lights in the sky. It's been a constant source
Speaker 2: of interest for expeditions. And actually, part of the political
Speaker 2: thing that we're going to get into is the Nazis
Speaker 2: were very interested in Mount Kylash and they did quite
Speaker 2: a few expeditions to try to discover the lost Kingdom
Speaker 2: of Shambala.
Speaker 1: Wow, I can't say I'm surprised about that. You know,
Speaker 1: the Nazis. You know, there's the whole story about Hitler
Speaker 1: escaping to Argentina. There's a whole fucking Nazi colony. Like
Speaker 1: there's a bunch of blonde hair blue eyed people there,
Speaker 1: and it's like it's really strange, and honestly, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't believe history for one minute. Like whenever we
Speaker 1: start talking about these these wars or certain leaders or
Speaker 1: the story's always messed up. Here's an example. All right,
Speaker 1: So my wife from Brazil, right, she is always getting
Speaker 1: updates on people who live in Brazil. She saw has
Speaker 1: a bunch of family out there. They've been getting like
Speaker 1: like barraged with like massive flooding over the last couple
Speaker 1: of couple of weeks or whatever, so much so that
Speaker 1: like there's water that's literally at the top of like
Speaker 1: it goes all the way up to the top of
Speaker 1: like the roof of a barn. And there was like
Speaker 1: a picture of a horse standing on top of the
Speaker 1: of the roof of this barn, and it's it's so flooded.
Speaker 1: There's probably I don't know, twenty feet of water that
Speaker 1: is just like completely flooded this place out Well, anyway,
Speaker 1: their president or their their media or whatever has only
Speaker 1: been saying, you know, there's only been like ninety three
Speaker 1: people that have died from this.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: Meanwhile, there's other like influencers out of Brazil that'll go
Speaker 1: on TikTok and Instagram and everywhere else, and the guys like,
Speaker 1: I know that there's not only ninety three people dead
Speaker 1: from this flood, because I'm looking at at least ninety
Speaker 1: three dead bodies right now, and he suggested it's probably
Speaker 1: somewhere up around two or three thousand people that have
Speaker 1: died as a result of this flood. Point being, is
Speaker 1: that still in this day and age, the numbers, the lies,
Speaker 1: everything is being you know, manipulated in one way or another.
Speaker 1: So whenever we hear that, you know, oh, you know,
Speaker 1: we defeated the fucking Nazis in World War Two and
Speaker 1: Hitler doesn't you know, we beat Hitler and that was
Speaker 1: a it's a big win for America and the rest
Speaker 1: of the world and everything, and America's back to back
Speaker 1: World War champs. It's like, I don't know about that
Speaker 1: because it seems really I mean, look, yeah, do we
Speaker 1: got a little bit of freedom, sure, but are did
Speaker 1: Is there still a Nazi colony? Yeah? Did Hitler probably
Speaker 1: escape somewhere? Yeah? Was he wa?
Speaker 3: Wait wait is there still a Confederate colony in Brazil
Speaker 3: as well?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 1: My point is is that, you know, we don't know
Speaker 1: what to trust from history? How many times we got
Speaker 1: to talk about this on this podcast.
Speaker 2: History is written by the victors. And what if I
Speaker 2: told you, actually, he Hitler discovered something on this expedition
Speaker 2: in Tibet and he brought it back with him And
Speaker 2: you might be onto something there, Jonathan, But I'm not
Speaker 2: ready to let the cat out of the bag just yet.
Speaker 1: Okay, little bit.
Speaker 2: So, Actually, human beings have inhabited Tibet for at least
Speaker 2: twenty thousand years and it is a very ancient culture.
Speaker 2: And what they have now is Ti Bet and Buddhism.
Speaker 2: But it wasn't always Buddhism. It was a religion known
Speaker 2: as Bon and Bond is a religion that practices a
Speaker 2: lot of magic and it was given to them by
Speaker 2: the gods that reside did in Mount Kailash, and they
Speaker 2: practiced magic. But they also have in their I don't know,
Speaker 2: I guess the their version of their Bible stories of
Speaker 2: exercising demons out of people practicing rituals. And it was
Speaker 2: very heady stuff. But then Buddhism b h I believe so,
Speaker 2: I believe so. Yes. It wasn't until the eighth century
Speaker 2: that Buddhism was introduced into the Tibetan culture, and they
Speaker 2: actually what they did was hodgepodged a little bit of
Speaker 2: the Bond religion with Buddhism and created their own whole
Speaker 2: kind of version of it, if you will.
Speaker 1: Religion.
Speaker 2: Ever, Yeah, and it's actually Tibetan Buddhism that gave rise
Speaker 2: to the Dalai Lama. So a lot of people are
Speaker 2: familiar with the Dali Lama. It came from to and Buddhism,
Speaker 2: And just like all ancient religions this area of Tibec,
Speaker 2: they speak of celestial beings who descended from the sky
Speaker 2: and lived in physical structures. And as I was kind
Speaker 2: of touching on before, I think that I started a
Speaker 2: new miniseries on my podcast about ancient architecture, because if
Speaker 2: you look back at it, a lot of the times
Speaker 2: they try to paint these megalithic structures as people digging
Speaker 2: fucking holes and fucking clay pots and riding camels and
Speaker 2: you know, just the most basic of lifestyles, and it
Speaker 2: absolutely was not. They were capable of so much more
Speaker 2: than we give them credit for advanced technology, you name it.
Speaker 2: They probably knew how to do stuff that we still
Speaker 2: do this day. They'd look at the iPhone and be like,
Speaker 2: what the fuck is the stupid piece of shit like
Speaker 2: laser cut stones that are fifty thousand tons. I mean,
Speaker 2: come on, we don't even have a way of getting
Speaker 2: wayser precision cuts like that now.
Speaker 1: Exactly in the pyramid, in the Sphinx, and really all
Speaker 1: the pyramids across the world. It's well, not all of them.
Speaker 1: I know that there are some that like they they
Speaker 1: know that the community around them probably built. But you know,
Speaker 1: it's like, how do we know that the all these
Speaker 1: people we just we just assumed that they're all cavemen.
Speaker 1: We just assumed that because they didn't have electricity, because
Speaker 1: they didn't have technology, you know what we refer to
Speaker 1: as technology today, that they were probably just working with
Speaker 1: hammer and chisel, and you know, that's.
Speaker 2: What they That's what the story is, right, that they
Speaker 2: had oil lamps and they were fucking wearing loincloths with
Speaker 2: their dick and ball swinging. It just wasn't like that
Speaker 2: they were highly highly advanced. And so I do think
Speaker 2: that there's some sort of a stargate there in the mountains.
Speaker 2: In Tibet. There is passages in the Bond religion where
Speaker 2: it talks about the god kings and that they had
Speaker 2: technology and that they used airships quote unquote. So again,
Speaker 2: so when when people say, oh, well shambala is it's
Speaker 2: like a story, it's a metaphor for their religion. It's
Speaker 2: a physical place they're talking about. They had technology, they
Speaker 2: mingled with humans, they taught them everything that they knew,
Speaker 2: they had airships. What kind of metaphor is what is
Speaker 2: it the metaphor for I mean what I.
Speaker 5: Don't get the Bond religion.
Speaker 2: Yes, they practiced magic, they cast the demons out of people.
Speaker 2: I mean, it was a whole it was a whole
Speaker 2: fucking thing.
Speaker 3: So when are we talking about did Buddhism make its
Speaker 3: way like most prevalent in ti Bed What year about?
Speaker 2: It's so my research said that eighth century.
Speaker 5: AD or BC BC, the eighth century BC. Okay, okay,
Speaker 5: I'm with you, yeah.
Speaker 1: Because she said it was around what like twenty thousand
Speaker 1: years right?
Speaker 2: What twenty thousand years?
Speaker 3: Well wait, a seven thousand BC would be or seven
Speaker 3: hundred BC would be twenty seven hundred years ago, not
Speaker 3: twenty thousand. So I'm trying to figure out, like when
Speaker 3: did Buddhism like really pick up from where bond began.
Speaker 3: You know, so you're saying about seven hundred eight BC
Speaker 3: is when Buddhism kind of got.
Speaker 5: Introduced to this region. For for I got you.
Speaker 2: Okay, there is this reoccurring thing though, where throughout the
Speaker 2: ages people have tried to go on expeditions to find Shambala.
Speaker 2: And one of them was in nineteen twenty seven. It
Speaker 2: was a Russian philosopher guy named Nicholas Rock and his
Speaker 2: crazy ass took off into the mountains with like little
Speaker 2: to no preparation in uncharted territory to find this lost kingdom.
Speaker 2: And on August fifth, nineteen twenty seven, he documented strange
Speaker 2: metallic objects flying through the sky at immense speeds, and
Speaker 2: he journaled it and he said they must have come
Speaker 2: from the Lost Kingdom of Shambala, although he never discovered
Speaker 2: the city itself.
Speaker 1: WHOA, all right, so I mean pretty much what.
Speaker 2: Nicholas roarick r A R I c K.
Speaker 1: So pretty much like what I would gather from this
Speaker 1: is like, all right, well, he's making an assumption that
Speaker 1: it came from the Shambala, but without a doubt he
Speaker 1: definitely saw, you know, some kind of eyeing silver raft
Speaker 1: And you're saying it was in this general region of
Speaker 1: these mountains that are yes, it.
Speaker 2: Was near Mount Kailash. And actually speaking of disappearing acts
Speaker 2: in this area, he saw these objects and then they
Speaker 2: burst off into the sky. How people usually describe seeing
Speaker 2: a ufo, it's flying at a mint speed. It's there
Speaker 2: and then boom, it's gone. But in the Nagari Prefecture
Speaker 2: in Tibet, there is a civilization there with towers and
Speaker 2: it's massive, actually it's so it towers out over twelve
Speaker 2: thousand feet and it was a kingdom called Googay and
Speaker 2: it was established in the tenth century and it flourished
Speaker 2: for seven hundred years. It was a massive civilization. In
Speaker 2: one day out of nowhere, everybody vanished.
Speaker 1: Whoa very mayan, like you know what's really strange, Just
Speaker 1: to interject a little bit. So my son, he's almost
Speaker 1: two years old now, and he always likes he has,
Speaker 1: like he says, a bunch of little baby words like
Speaker 1: that nobody can understand, right, But he always has his
Speaker 1: one go to phrase and he's done it literally ever
Speaker 1: since he started, like you know, belting out in sounds
Speaker 1: out of his mouth, and it's always been googa, googa.
Speaker 1: He always says googa, So whenever you say it like that,
Speaker 1: it's like, dude, I believe, like I'm a full on
Speaker 1: believer that kids can remember their past lives up until
Speaker 1: a certain age. And who's to say, dude, I don't know.
Speaker 2: Like that's very interesting.
Speaker 1: I don't know, just wanted to throw it out here because.
Speaker 2: They vanished without a trace, thousands of temples with artwork
Speaker 2: all over the walls, intricately decorated and carved. Each temple
Speaker 2: was a legiti masterpiece, and no answers as to what
Speaker 2: happened to them, not even a hypothesis as to what
Speaker 2: happened to this entire civilization. Where the fuck did the
Speaker 2: people go? It's estimated that one hundred thousand people lived
Speaker 2: in the Kingdom of Google and they fucking vanished in
Speaker 2: the blink of an eye.
Speaker 1: And this is in Tibet, right, Yes.
Speaker 2: In the Nagari Prefecture of Tibet. There are theories, not
Speaker 2: a hypothesis, not a scientist coming out and saying shit.
Speaker 2: There are theories of what happened to these people. And
Speaker 2: the theory is that they traveled deep underground in all
Speaker 2: these super intricate tunnel systems and underground chambers that were
Speaker 2: found that led to Mount Kailash.
Speaker 1: What mm hmm.
Speaker 2: And if you follow one of the tunnel systems, you
Speaker 2: go underground at the under one of the temples, and
Speaker 2: you follow the tunnel to the end, you get to
Speaker 2: the center of Mount Kylash.
Speaker 1: WHOA, all right, So let's just say they get to
Speaker 1: this Mount Kyelash, there's still no trace of them.
Speaker 2: So again with the Bond religion speaking of a cloaked
Speaker 2: kingdom with what do they call them flying ships or whatever? Like,
Speaker 2: what are we talking about here? One hundred thousand people
Speaker 2: gone and they have all these intricate tunnel systems caved
Speaker 2: out to the mountain. It's just really weird to me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that is super weird. I don't understand how so,
Speaker 1: like it kind of makes me think of where is
Speaker 1: it that the Black Panther lives. It's like a cloaked
Speaker 1: Wakanda Wakanda, Right, It's like cloak. You couldn't find it
Speaker 1: unless you knew the exact like coordinates on how to
Speaker 1: get there. I don't know. Actually they leave it like
Speaker 1: little breadcrumbs and movies like that.
Speaker 2: Well, I had in my notes that it would be
Speaker 2: very similar to Wakanda because it's in the middle of Africa,
Speaker 2: and you would be like, oh, it's a bunch of
Speaker 2: fucking elephants and ryan ocerises, and then it's a whole veil,
Speaker 2: you know, protecting the city. But it's essentially described that
Speaker 2: way in the in the texts that it's cloaked. You
Speaker 2: can't see it unless they let you see it. And
Speaker 2: that's why so many people travel to Mount Kailash to
Speaker 2: seek the blessing of the gods, which is why they
Speaker 2: take a step prostrate, take a step prostrate. They're trying
Speaker 2: to gain the blessing of these gods that supposedly lived there.
Speaker 4: And the.
Speaker 3: Where do you see that one hundred thousand google people disappeared?
Speaker 3: Because I see that they had a dynasty up all
Speaker 3: the way to sixteen ninety.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they they flourished for seven hundred years before they vanished.
Speaker 3: But when did they vanish or when is that suspected?
Speaker 3: Because again, all the way up into sixteen thirty they
Speaker 3: were conquered and then they were reconquered to sixteen eighty.
Speaker 3: Did they like disappear in the sixteen hundreds?
Speaker 1: It's said, Jacob, why are you trying to debunk this shit?
Speaker 4: Bro? I'm not.
Speaker 5: I'm trying to get a good idea here.
Speaker 3: If we're talking like if we're talking about Tibet, bro
Speaker 3: this is up in the mountains. It's not like we
Speaker 3: have so much information about what goes on up there.
Speaker 3: If in the seventeen hundreds these people vanished, who would
Speaker 3: have wrote that down the seventeen like we're talking about when.
Speaker 4: America was found, the red coats were doing red coat shit. Like,
Speaker 4: I'm not.
Speaker 5: I'm not throwing wrenches here. I'm trying to make sure
Speaker 5: of what time period we're talking.
Speaker 2: That is all Google Vanished Kingdom of Google, and just
Speaker 2: see what it says, because I watched a documentary on it,
Speaker 2: and then I found an article on it after I
Speaker 2: googled it. But I literally googled Vanished Kingdom because that's
Speaker 2: what the documentary was called.
Speaker 1: Look, I imagine this story would not be in our history books.
Speaker 1: It's not sure that it wouldn't be in there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean somebody made a documentary on it. I
Speaker 2: mean somebody had to have documented something somewhere about this.
Speaker 2: Why would they make it up? I mean it's totally abandoned.
Speaker 2: This whole civilization is just like in.
Speaker 1: Rubble, so in Hinduism, they have these things that are
Speaker 1: like the superpowers. They're called natties and you know the
Speaker 1: who was it? Paramahanse Yokanda wrote about it in the
Speaker 1: Autobiography of a Yogi of all these different like Yogi
Speaker 1: masters that he went and spent time with and learned
Speaker 1: from and stuff like that. Some of them had like
Speaker 1: super strength like the Hulk. Some of them like could
Speaker 1: create a fragrance in their hands and they would just say, hey,
Speaker 1: look picture, like think of any fragrance you want, and
Speaker 1: I will be able to form it here in my hands.
Speaker 1: And like this stuff is very well documented anyway, this
Speaker 1: this book was only written like not even a hundred
Speaker 1: years ago, like it's not that old. And and so
Speaker 1: it's like I believe in this stuff absolutely, that people
Speaker 1: can develop some kind of like very weird powers, like
Speaker 1: developing a fucking scent in your hand, Like why would
Speaker 1: you need that? But they say that you develop like
Speaker 1: so they call them not all I'm sorry, not naught
Speaker 1: these cities s I D D H I s H
Speaker 1: H I s and uh. Basically they developed these cities
Speaker 1: the city powers. And they say, don't don't don't you know,
Speaker 1: get like all crazy whenever you, you know, learn one
Speaker 1: of the superpowers, because the goal is not to you know,
Speaker 1: just be like, oh I finally learned one, and now
Speaker 1: let me go teach the world how to do it.
Speaker 3: Like.
Speaker 1: The goal is is that you rise up and you
Speaker 1: learn like all of them or some of them along
Speaker 1: the way until you reach that state of like the
Speaker 1: absolute where you're just completely blissed the fuck out all
Speaker 1: the time.
Speaker 4: Wait a minute, you got to keep the secret secret.
Speaker 1: You're not supposed to keep it secret. It's it's more
Speaker 1: so that you're not supposed to relish in it, because
Speaker 1: that's not the goal of obtaining enlightenment.
Speaker 3: It's I see, if you're feeding into your pride and ego,
Speaker 3: that's a negative.
Speaker 5: I feel you.
Speaker 1: It goes against it.
Speaker 5: Right there. You go also to the point the Google tribe.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, we are in fact talking about the
Speaker 3: sixteen hundred's ad when they overnight vanished.
Speaker 4: Now there, Oh.
Speaker 5: Yeah, no, no, that's and this is all.
Speaker 3: I've checked a couple of different articles and like, no,
Speaker 3: that is, in fact what the fuck we're talking about. Now,
Speaker 3: I haven't found anything as far as a number of people,
Speaker 3: but every single article claims that, yes, they were here.
Speaker 5: Here are the ruins.
Speaker 3: They ran for about seven hundred years, and then they
Speaker 3: pretty much had a overnight collapse that nobody can fully
Speaker 3: understand why. Now they're saying that it's possible that they
Speaker 3: were taken over by one of their neighboring tribes, which
Speaker 3: they say makes sense. They found a couple of weapons
Speaker 3: caches around the city, but that doesn't explain a full
Speaker 3: overnight collapse of a civilization. If you were to say
Speaker 3: a city or a castle, or even a couple of
Speaker 3: them in a you know, coordinated attack, we could have
Speaker 3: that talk. But pretty much there's no record of them
Speaker 3: after their collapse, seemingly happening like flip of a switch.
Speaker 3: So yes, we are, in fact talking about the early
Speaker 3: the sixteen eighties.
Speaker 5: Ad.
Speaker 1: Well, look, Julia, I'm I hope that you appreciate that
Speaker 1: Snopes fact check, because now you can finish with the
Speaker 1: rest of your story.
Speaker 3: I was just looking into it's she's throwing out years,
Speaker 3: and I wanted to ask what years.
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, I'm glad you found it though, in case
Speaker 2: somebody thinks I'm full of shit, now I don't, and
Speaker 2: that'll give me more credibility for the rest of the
Speaker 2: information I'm about to provide you with.
Speaker 1: I blindly believe you anyway, that's right.
Speaker 2: But yeah, no, so this area there and they had
Speaker 2: tunnels carved out to Mount Kailash. The body count for
Speaker 2: this area is actually surprisingly high. Lots of people die
Speaker 2: in this area. And I wrote in my notes that
Speaker 2: I think it's curious that maybe similar to if you've
Speaker 2: ever done any research on the Suicide Forest, and it's
Speaker 2: actually called the Oki Kahara Forest in Japan. It sits
Speaker 2: at the base of Mount Fuji, and they say that
Speaker 2: there is a goddess who lives on Mount Fuji, and
Speaker 2: all this death from the suicide force, like what is
Speaker 2: it feeding?
Speaker 4: What?
Speaker 2: What is that feeding?
Speaker 1: Because it is interesting because you're talking about like how
Speaker 1: all these places are next to mountains. Mountains have like
Speaker 1: the magnetism and stuff like that, right, So, like because
Speaker 1: it's mainly iron and you know, some kind of minerals
Speaker 1: and the rocks and everything, so there's always like some
Speaker 1: kind of weird magnetism that happens with these and so
Speaker 1: it's really not that surprising that, you know, shit would
Speaker 1: be getting weird around there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I mean thousands of people. I did an
Speaker 2: episode on the suicide Forest. Thousands of people every year
Speaker 2: are drawn to the Oki Kahara Forest to unalive themselves and.
Speaker 5: So well, it's been a big cultural thing in Japan
Speaker 5: for hundreds of years, So.
Speaker 2: Mount Kailash thing for thousands and thousands of years. People
Speaker 2: have been drawn there and they try to do this
Speaker 2: spiritual journey and they fucking die and it's really sad.
Speaker 2: But it just kind of made me think, like, all
Speaker 2: the bodies are piling up, and what is where is
Speaker 2: all this energy going?
Speaker 1: And for that exactly are they dying or are their
Speaker 1: souls ascending and they no longer have a use for
Speaker 1: their human flesh.
Speaker 2: I don't know. A lot of them said dehydration, So
Speaker 2: we'll yeah that up to the listeners. Man.
Speaker 3: The Tibetans have these. They do skulls, and they do
Speaker 3: skull carvings and etchings and paintings on them, and they
Speaker 3: make death masks out of them. It's actually kind of
Speaker 3: a big thing in Tibet. I've looked at pricing some
Speaker 3: of these. They are expensive because they find them in
Speaker 3: these like very sacred burial places along these paths in Tibet.
Speaker 5: It's insane mm hmm.
Speaker 2: And to kind of add to my point on why
Speaker 2: they just found out that Mount Kaylash is in fact
Speaker 2: a pyramid and not just a naturally occurring mountain. Now,
Speaker 2: what is interesting is the documentary that I watched came
Speaker 2: out before they made that discovery, and in the documentary
Speaker 2: it said that Mount Kilash is extremely radioactive and people
Speaker 2: are told that they can go up there, but they
Speaker 2: shouldn't stay too long due to the massive radiation.
Speaker 1: Who so radiation? Do they know what the radiation is
Speaker 1: caused by? Is it?
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say, an active motherfucker up there? Pyramid style,
Speaker 2: A vacuum mother freaker is up there.
Speaker 3: There is very few examples, although there are some of
Speaker 3: what's called norms naturally occurring radioactive material. It does exist,
Speaker 3: but it's not something that you're just gonna find bebopping
Speaker 3: along your little, your little hiking trail.
Speaker 5: Okay. This is something that you have to dig to find.
Speaker 3: It is something that has to have such a perfect
Speaker 3: combination of things falling into place to make it this
Speaker 3: radioactive isotope in its chrystolic natural form. So I'm not
Speaker 3: saying that that's never happened before, but it's like to
Speaker 3: have it even like a rock.
Speaker 5: Do have that about?
Speaker 3: It is rare to have it so prevalent on a
Speaker 3: mountain to where it's killing people.
Speaker 5: I'm I'm sorry what.
Speaker 2: That was my thoughts? Now? Are you ready to take
Speaker 2: a turn into the occult side of things?
Speaker 5: Always?
Speaker 2: Okay? Good? So there is actually someone who claimed to
Speaker 2: be in direct communication with this lost city of Shambala.
Speaker 2: And this person also claimed to know the location of
Speaker 2: the lost kingdom and was able to channel the entities
Speaker 2: residing there. Do you want to guess who this person
Speaker 2: might be, because I'm sure you're going to recognize the.
Speaker 1: Name Alistair Crowley Hadrolf Hitler.
Speaker 2: So in eighteen eighty eight, Madame Helena Petrova Blovotsky, Yes, indeed, yes,
Speaker 2: she publishes her book called This Secret Doctrine. And in
Speaker 2: this book she offers detailed descriptions of legendary lost continents
Speaker 2: like Atlantis and Lumeria, and she claims not only did
Speaker 2: these ancient civilizations exist, but that they possessed highly advanced technology,
Speaker 2: technology including what she described as flying machines. And Blovotsky
Speaker 2: maintained that human lineage is vastly older than we could
Speaker 2: ever understand, and that these primordial civilizations like Atlantis, Lumeria,
Speaker 2: and Shambala were the foundations of all culture and were
Speaker 2: much older than Egyptian culture, of Vedic culture or any
Speaker 2: other quote unquote ancient culture known to human But what
Speaker 2: people don't know is that she received all of this
Speaker 2: information from an entity that she described as Mahatma, which
Speaker 2: just means great soul. But he did have a name,
Speaker 2: and he called himself kut Home, and he resided in Tibet,
Speaker 2: and he communicated with her telepathically and manifested himself in
Speaker 2: her apartment in New York City through what he called
Speaker 2: a portal or a channel, stargate, something like that. And
Speaker 2: it's from this entity, Kutume, that she wrote the Secret
Speaker 2: Doctrine with all of these occult secrets in it, and
Speaker 2: she got so obsessed with it and was channeling this
Speaker 2: being so much. That's what provoked her to start the
Speaker 2: Theosophical Society based on the teachings from this entity from Tibet,
Speaker 2: and it inspired so many of the great thinkers like painters, writers,
Speaker 2: et cetera. One of the members that I find interesting
Speaker 2: is L. Frank Baum, the writer of the Oz books.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, dude, I'm telling you like I don't know
Speaker 1: how y'all feel. I'm not a Christian, so I might
Speaker 1: see a little bit differently whenever I hear certain names,
Speaker 1: like you know, a Madam Blovotsky or Alistair Crowley, like
Speaker 1: I don't care, well, Alison Crowley is a whole different story.
Speaker 1: But Blovotsky, I don't believe that she was dealing in
Speaker 1: satanic witchcraft? Was she? It was just magic and witchcraft.
Speaker 4: So as a Christian, I only just learned about her. Okay.
Speaker 3: So, and that's not just from that little video that
Speaker 3: me and you watched not too long ago. I knew
Speaker 3: that she was big in the Victorian era. I knew
Speaker 3: that she was of Eastern thought process when it comes
Speaker 3: to the esoteric.
Speaker 4: But when you say Eastern, that immediately I kind of
Speaker 4: don't know much about it.
Speaker 3: And I'll admit that I understand Vedik, and I understand
Speaker 3: the Buddhists, and I understand the Far East, the China
Speaker 3: and the Japan and all that. But when you say Eastern,
Speaker 3: it doesn't just mean the order of the Rising Sun
Speaker 3: out of the far Samurai of Japan. That could mean
Speaker 3: everything from like Pakistan to Mongolia to Russia to North Korea.
Speaker 3: It's a very broad thing when you say, the Eastern
Speaker 3: philosophical look at things. So I don't actually know much
Speaker 3: about Madam Blabowski other than her name and a couple
Speaker 3: of ideas that I've heard, So I don't know to
Speaker 3: say for certain.
Speaker 2: She was into some pretty dark shit that there's actually
Speaker 2: some significant ties to her being the mind behind Jack
Speaker 2: the Ripper, which is why I did a whole episode
Speaker 2: on it. And actually she's she been there. Like with
Speaker 2: the Jack the Ripper lore, I know, there's a lot
Speaker 2: of it, and a lot of people have speculations on
Speaker 2: who they think could have been Jack the Ripper, but
Speaker 2: it actually turns out that Jack the Ripper may have
Speaker 2: been acting on her behalf for certain types of rituals.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, Yeah, I've never really done a deep
Speaker 1: dive on on Blovotsky. I would love to, you know,
Speaker 1: And I'm the kind of person I don't really like
Speaker 1: to throw the baby out with the bathwater, Like I
Speaker 1: like looking into what Alistair Crowley did and all these
Speaker 1: other magicians and stuff, what they've really looked into as
Speaker 1: far as you know, the occult and ritualistic shit. I
Speaker 1: like just learning about it and not so that I can,
Speaker 1: you know, summon the fucking demon God or anything like that.
Speaker 1: It's more so just like I just want to understand it.
Speaker 1: I want to understand how it's done.
Speaker 4: And my way.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because the only way to know the truth is
Speaker 2: to explore all avenues.
Speaker 1: Thank you.
Speaker 2: Like I can't come on here and do this episode
Speaker 2: and present this information to you without having looked into it.
Speaker 2: You know, if I'm a Christian, so I can't read
Speaker 2: about Aleister Crowley, I can't read about Helena Blovotski, well
Speaker 2: then I'm an idiot because I'll never know. I'll be
Speaker 2: ignorant to it.
Speaker 1: Like, well do it. You'll get some people who will
Speaker 1: say you shouldn't look into it, because then you're inviting
Speaker 1: that evil spirits spiritual shit into your life. You know,
Speaker 1: I know, Jacob, you don't even like watching scary movies
Speaker 1: because you think I.
Speaker 4: Love it depends.
Speaker 3: Flasher movies are denver than like demonic possession movies. There's
Speaker 3: there's a different spirit behind each of those.
Speaker 4: The omen has a different vibe than fucking Friday the thirteenth.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I really seriously agree with you. Which is
Speaker 2: I keep saying like I did an episode on this.
Speaker 2: I did an episode on this, but it's true.
Speaker 4: Shit, hey plug yourself, man, fuck you.
Speaker 2: I did an episode on you. Guys have watched it.
Speaker 2: I'm sure Ghost Adventures Zach Begens since is some interesting
Speaker 2: we'll just say interesting stuff. And his show does give
Speaker 2: a very ominous feeling sometimes when you watch it. So
Speaker 2: I did a little episode on that. But so Helena
Speaker 2: Petrova Blevatsky. She inspired all these great thinkers. One of
Speaker 2: them was L. Frank Baum, another was Thomas Edison, just
Speaker 2: to name a few. But she especially inspired a young
Speaker 2: man who will later become known as Mahatma Gandhi. And
Speaker 2: so Mahatma Gandhi wrote that meeting her was one of
Speaker 2: the most pivotal encounters of his entire life. So she
Speaker 2: obviously has some profound information for him to say something
Speaker 2: like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because you said the spirit's name was Mahatma, wasn't it.
Speaker 2: She called the spirit the entity Mahatma, But it really
Speaker 2: just meant great soul. It would be like calling someone
Speaker 2: a deity instead of a ghost. Okay, yeah, but the entity.
Speaker 3: I thought it was something closer to like being canonized
Speaker 3: like Gandhi was. But like even we we call him
Speaker 3: Mahatma these days, meaning great soul, because like it's understood,
Speaker 3: he had a great soul, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: So like in that culture he gets that title. But
Speaker 3: is that something I don't think you can get that
Speaker 3: while you're alive. No, they they called him that while
Speaker 3: he was alive.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can. I think it's like saying like pope
Speaker 2: or saint or something like that. But the yeah, the
Speaker 2: entity still had a name. Is his name was Kutu
Speaker 2: Home And let's flash forward actually, so that was in
Speaker 2: eighteen eighty eight. She goes on to start the Theosophical Society.
Speaker 2: But now we're going to go to nineteen eighteen. A
Speaker 2: name that you have already brought up, Alistair Crowley. Okay.
Speaker 2: He engages in a dark art magical ritual that he
Speaker 2: calls the Almanantra Working Ritual, and he claims that this
Speaker 2: is the ritual that opens an interdimensional portal that allows
Speaker 2: him to interact with entities, in particular a specific being
Speaker 2: that he called lom. Are you familiar with.
Speaker 1: This, yes?
Speaker 2: Okay, So, according to Crowley, this entity claimed to reside
Speaker 2: high in the Himalayan mountains of Tibet, just like the
Speaker 2: entity Blovotsky channeled.
Speaker 1: And if I'm not mistaken, Lom he later thought about
Speaker 1: it that he was. He was almost like one hundred
Speaker 1: percent sure that it was the devil right that was
Speaker 1: speaking to him. It came through his line. But then
Speaker 1: like after some thought, he was like, I'm pretty sure
Speaker 1: that was the devil.
Speaker 3: Yes, but what is that the same ritual that he
Speaker 3: didn't complete. It was supposed to be like a three
Speaker 3: day ritual and he stopped two days into it, so
Speaker 3: basically he never closed the portal.
Speaker 2: They wrote about it in the newspaper. It was so
Speaker 2: epic mm hmm. Yeah. And this entity that he channeled,
Speaker 2: this long, claimed to be a Tibetan master of wisdom,
Speaker 2: and he Prowley drew a sketch of this creature because
Speaker 2: that's what the fuck it looks like to me. But
Speaker 2: what's interesting about this long is that it had a huge, bulbous,
Speaker 2: elongated skull in a freaky little pinched up face. And
Speaker 2: you hear about like Achanaaten and all of these other
Speaker 2: deities with these huge elongated skulls and that Ananaki fill
Speaker 2: in the blank. They all have these elongated skulls like
Speaker 2: this boom there you go. Absolutely, this little freaking pinched
Speaker 2: up face.
Speaker 3: And skull binding was a cultural thing for many cultures
Speaker 3: around the world. The Aztecs did it, the Mions did it.
Speaker 3: But if I'm not mistaken, there were some Asian countries
Speaker 3: as well that would strap boards to their babies heads
Speaker 3: to make it elongated like their deities.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: Wow, somebody turned it into a Ouiji board. Look at it.
Speaker 2: Wow wow, that's crazy. But you see there is a
Speaker 2: little sketch down there. It says podcast Addict Unknowable something
Speaker 2: episode and it has the Himalayan mountains in the background
Speaker 2: and a picture of.
Speaker 1: Long Oh I'm trying to Holy shit, I never even
Speaker 1: noticed the look at the Wizard of fucking ohs the
Speaker 1: same thing.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I didn't even put that together.
Speaker 1: Whoa mind blown bro.
Speaker 2: We did an episode an entity right there.
Speaker 3: We talked about the Wizard of Oz and how there's
Speaker 3: levels to that whole story. The book was meant to
Speaker 3: be a political take, but the author himself, being a
Speaker 3: student of Blovotsky, this checks out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the movie is real mk Ultra. I did a
Speaker 2: episode on that as well, and it's pretty freaky. But
Speaker 2: now we're going to fast forward. So that's two people
Speaker 2: that two names that everyone would recognize, Helena Petrovov Blovotsky
Speaker 2: and Alistair Crowley talking with entities from this area in Tibet.
Speaker 2: Now we're going to fast forward again. Adolf Hitler nineteen
Speaker 2: thirty eight. He funded an expedition with the directive to
Speaker 2: establish whether or not Tibet was the cradle of the
Speaker 2: Aryan race. And he was actually inspired by Madame Blovotsky
Speaker 2: and another book that was written by Edward B. Bueler
Speaker 2: Litton that was called Vrill. Now you might be familiar
Speaker 2: with that as well, the Real Society. So he funds
Speaker 2: this expedition and they claim to have found and been
Speaker 2: in contact with these entities in the Himalayan mountains, and
Speaker 2: they sought to prove that Arians were the descendants of
Speaker 2: the magical Vrill beings. Have you ever heard this shit?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, well this is really what Hitler was trying
Speaker 1: to accomplish, the perfect human like, and and he got
Speaker 1: the whole idea from this very thing. Like you know,
Speaker 1: whenever the blonde hair, the blue eye, the perfect like,
Speaker 1: the perfection he was he was trying to create that.
Speaker 1: And well that's what they say anyway, take that with
Speaker 1: a grain of salt. But I've heard it across multiple
Speaker 1: different sources that he was trying to find the perfect
Speaker 1: human race and that's that's where he got the inspiration
Speaker 1: from him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he did.
Speaker 4: It was a motivator. Yeah, it was a big motivator
Speaker 4: of him in the beginning of the war.
Speaker 3: But towards the end when they started losing, they started
Speaker 3: like needing money and resources. So Gebels who was like
Speaker 3: his little lackey, his right hand man, and Gebels was big, big,
Speaker 3: big with the occult everything and the ancient ways that
Speaker 3: are lost in all this.
Speaker 4: And Hitler even got critical of him towards the end.
Speaker 3: It was like he's got us going crazy over these
Speaker 3: mud huts and like stones and bones, we should be
Speaker 3: worried about the Russians right now, like and this and this,
Speaker 3: Like towards the in the beginning, when he was the
Speaker 3: Hitler that we all remember, right, the dude who was
Speaker 3: losing his mind on the microphone and the one who
Speaker 3: got the whole nation behind him and had these societies.
Speaker 3: That guy absolutely was down with throwing excess money, excess
Speaker 3: resources into everything that could potentially back the claims of
Speaker 3: a master race one mm hmm.
Speaker 2: They also the Nazis and Hitler took incredible interest in
Speaker 2: Shimbala and find the entrance how to get in there,
Speaker 2: because they heard that if they did that, this place
Speaker 2: was supposed to have immense technology, you name it. So
Speaker 2: they were incredibly interested in it. But while the Nazis
Speaker 2: were there, the war broke out in nineteen thirty nine
Speaker 2: and they were called back home, so they never discovered
Speaker 2: the entrance into Shambala, although they had said to have
Speaker 2: encountered the beings that resided there. And what's interesting is
Speaker 2: that the expedition yielded one piece of evidence that everyone
Speaker 2: can go and find. They brought back a statue, among
Speaker 2: other items. It was a twenty two pound iron statue
Speaker 2: and it was supposed to be one of these deities
Speaker 2: that resided in Shambala. But what's interesting is on the
Speaker 2: beings clothing. It wore a swastika in the middle of
Speaker 2: its chest and it was a symbol.
Speaker 4: Was very old Hindu Tibetan symbol es yep.
Speaker 2: It was a symbol for divinity, which predated the Nazis
Speaker 2: by thousands of years. But they turned it counterclockwise and
Speaker 2: they used it as this death symbol. But they got it.
Speaker 2: They said that they got this statue from the beings
Speaker 2: in Shambala. But what's interesting is that eighty years later
Speaker 2: from them bringing this statue back, they study it in
Speaker 2: a lab and they discovered, and this is their hypothesis,
Speaker 2: it must have been made from some kind of meteorite
Speaker 2: because they couldn't identify specifically what or where it came from.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, So does that suggest that the stories correct?
Speaker 3: Then? I mean there's examples of meteorites and all these
Speaker 3: things being used, the metal extrapolated from it, the ore
Speaker 3: being used to make all kinds of things. There's swords
Speaker 3: that have been famously made from meteorites, and it's seen
Speaker 3: as though, like, you know, you present it to the King,
Speaker 3: your majesty, God gave us the.
Speaker 4: Ore that was used in making this perfect blade. Clearly
Speaker 4: it was for you. There's examples of this.
Speaker 3: So to say there was a statue made from it,
Speaker 3: absolutely possible. But that is crazy that there was enough
Speaker 3: Like the size of that meteorite would have had to
Speaker 3: have been massive. Or is it like a little trinket
Speaker 3: or is this like a massive statue.
Speaker 2: It's twenty two pounds.
Speaker 4: Okay, that's that little.
Speaker 2: Well, my thing is their best guess was that it
Speaker 2: had to have come from a meteorite because they couldn't
Speaker 2: identify anything else that it could have come from.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's usually identifying markers as far as where it
Speaker 3: could have come from. Like what was that episode we
Speaker 3: did with talking about the iron ore that ran through
Speaker 3: that section of America that was like the.
Speaker 4: Best iron ore on earth.
Speaker 3: But like you could tell, you could do chemical testing
Speaker 3: to see what area of the world, what mountain range
Speaker 3: this iron was made from the fact that they can't
Speaker 3: do the same thing with this either a meteor or
Speaker 3: b portal.
Speaker 1: The gods gave it down to the people, dude, That's
Speaker 1: what it sounds like to me.
Speaker 4: Essentially sounds like to me.
Speaker 2: But something that I've always encountered is that when people
Speaker 2: have stories of these nepheline type beings that descended from
Speaker 2: the sky and they made it with human women's and
Speaker 2: they had frigging elongated skulls and blah blah blah, something
Speaker 2: that always goes hand in hand with those type of
Speaker 2: stories is cryptids. I don't know if you've ever encountered
Speaker 2: something like that interviewing someone, but it's always like elongated beings,
Speaker 2: beings with superpowers, they build the pyramids, but there's also cryptids.
Speaker 2: Why do they always go hand in hand? You have
Speaker 2: bird headed beings, dog headed beings, but then you have
Speaker 2: super giant tall beings living amongst them as well. So
Speaker 2: I find that they kind of interlock. Sometimes you have
Speaker 2: certain things that just go together. And it's no different
Speaker 2: with this because it's been documented, photographed and prolifically recorded
Speaker 2: eyewitness testimony seeing what the Tibetans call the YETI right
Speaker 2: by this fucking shambala ble shit. So there's like layers
Speaker 2: to this shit. You got the Bond religion and all
Speaker 2: these stories, the ancient culture, you have Helena Petrova Blovotsky,
Speaker 2: you have Alister Crowley, you have the Nazis, fucking elongated
Speaker 2: skull beings, fucking and then Yetti. How do those things
Speaker 2: go together?
Speaker 1: Seems like it could be a possible breeding ground, so
Speaker 1: to say. But is it also possible that you know,
Speaker 1: because of maybe the specific vibration, because it's a vortex,
Speaker 1: and because you got all these different elemental things that
Speaker 1: are just magically lining up, that maybe the climate's right
Speaker 1: for it. Maybe it's it makes it possible for dimension jumping,
Speaker 1: you know, reality jumping or taking in and out of
Speaker 1: different worlds. I don't know, so I thought that too.
Speaker 2: But going all the way back in time, recorded by
Speaker 2: the Shamans of the Bond religion, which was the original
Speaker 2: inhabitants of Tibet, they wrote of these beings, and they
Speaker 2: wrote of their function, and they said that they are
Speaker 2: there to guard the city of Shambala.
Speaker 4: So wait, okay, now that leads me to my question.
Speaker 3: We have had a guest on our show, and by
Speaker 3: the way, if you have not met him, his name
Speaker 3: is Scott Pace. We must have him back on the
Speaker 3: show soon, Jonathan, Seriously, we were just talking about him
Speaker 3: the other day at work. We need to have him
Speaker 3: back on to get an update of what the Sasquatches
Speaker 3: are doing at his house. Okay, he claims, and he
Speaker 3: is a very very strong man of faith. He claims
Speaker 3: that these creatures are of God, made of God. He's
Speaker 3: not saying that they're angels, but he's saying that they
Speaker 3: are as in the I forget the book, chapter and
Speaker 3: verse that he was talking about, but he said that
Speaker 3: I Am the God.
Speaker 4: Of all things seen and unseen.
Speaker 3: He believes that these cryptid beings, not all, not all,
Speaker 3: but at least dog man and sasquatch and maybe particularly
Speaker 3: asiatic people call them. Yet He's he believes that these
Speaker 3: are benign, not benign. What's the word for good forces?
Speaker 4: There?
Speaker 3: These are very loving, very powerful beings, but they are
Speaker 3: like almost closer to God than humans.
Speaker 4: What is your take on this?
Speaker 2: My take on it? I mean, I don't think that
Speaker 2: they're hairy in the fucking Henderson's Okay, I don't think
Speaker 2: that at all. I think that they're inner dimensional beings.
Speaker 2: I think that they are puppets. They're used in whatever
Speaker 2: role that they're tasked to perform. I do believe that
Speaker 2: the Bible says when the fallen ones came down, that
Speaker 2: they made it with humans and animals alike, and that
Speaker 2: they had offspring with humans and animals alike. And what
Speaker 2: would something that's half an angel and half a gorilla
Speaker 2: look like or half an angel half a whatever? You know?
Speaker 2: We hear about mermaids, creatures of the sea, bigfoot, dog man,
Speaker 2: dog headed, bird headed beings like what like? I don't
Speaker 2: think I think that they may be nice, some of them,
Speaker 2: but I also think they have a fallen nature.
Speaker 3: So you're saying that they believe that these types of creatures,
Speaker 3: these cryptids, yetti's who knows exactly what they may have
Speaker 3: looked like, Cordon a legend they were being used to
Speaker 3: guard shipbalba are you Doesn't that mean that they would
Speaker 3: be a good function for that culture or is that
Speaker 3: a bad thing that they're guarding.
Speaker 1: It's the same thing as fucking dog man, right guarding
Speaker 1: the other.
Speaker 4: Bachlets, and the dog Man was seen as a good thing.
Speaker 4: So that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Is this like, ah, is it like a bouncer at
Speaker 3: a bar that's here to fuck you up if you
Speaker 3: come up in here, or is it more like the
Speaker 3: moral judge that determines if you can or cannot enter,
Speaker 3: Like what's the vibe?
Speaker 4: You know?
Speaker 2: They describe it more like the bouncer at the club.
Speaker 2: But I mean, I do know that your audience isn't
Speaker 2: like predominantly any oh they're eighty percent Christian or eighty
Speaker 2: percent whatever, da da da do you have a mixed audience?
Speaker 2: So what I'm about to say, I'll put lightly because
Speaker 2: I do have very strong opinions on it, but I
Speaker 2: want to be objective. Beauty is in the eye of
Speaker 2: the beholder. If this kingdom was evil or had nefarious
Speaker 2: or ominous agendas behind what they were planting or building there,
Speaker 2: maybe the whole thing is evil. If it was an innocent, loving,
Speaker 2: caring they were helping people in starting civilization and had
Speaker 2: god king like powers, and they were great to the
Speaker 2: other humans. And these yetti beings are just tossing people
Speaker 2: out so they can't go and find the city. Then whatever,
Speaker 2: it's literally in the eye of the beholder. I wasn't there.
Speaker 2: I don't fucking know, but I do know a lot
Speaker 2: of encounters with these creatures are really nasty.
Speaker 1: So that brings me I have a couple of points
Speaker 1: I want to bring up here. First of all, we
Speaker 1: talk about all right, Yes, we know that it's written
Speaker 1: within the Bible, the Nephalum and Book of Eno talks
Speaker 1: about all of that and shit and everything, right, But
Speaker 1: like in supposedly these fallen angels came down, made it
Speaker 1: with the humans, made it with the animals. Okay, get it,
Speaker 1: all right, I get the whole that could be a bigfoot,
Speaker 1: But where's the human equivalent of the Nephilm that is
Speaker 1: currently around today? I mean, you could just give the
Speaker 1: regular copod answer, that's Shack, that's Kevin Garnett, right, But
Speaker 1: I don't think So what do you think?
Speaker 3: So I don't believe the NBA is full of Nephelin,
Speaker 3: by the way, No, I don't. I'm a strong person
Speaker 3: to believe in Bigfoot, believe in the giants and all that.
Speaker 3: I don't believe that those dudes are like the descendants
Speaker 3: of descendants of them.
Speaker 1: No, I don't either. Well, what I'm saying is like,
Speaker 1: what's what's the like, where's the human version of that?
Speaker 2: So I've actually looked into it quite a bit, actually,
Speaker 2: and I think it's severely watered down from what you
Speaker 2: would consider to be a giant. They would probably be
Speaker 2: a normal human height, But like angels would have, they
Speaker 2: have magic quote unquote in their blood and they preserve
Speaker 2: this gene throughout bloodlines of families. So the physical attributes
Speaker 2: may have diminished over time, but they still preserve this gene,
Speaker 2: which is why a lot of the royal families inbreed
Speaker 2: with each other, they have babies with their cousins and sisters,
Speaker 2: and they're trying to preserve this gene and they call
Speaker 2: it the gene of Isis, which is also genesis where
Speaker 2: we learn about the fallen ones. So I don't think
Speaker 2: that you're going to find physical attributes. They look for
Speaker 2: blood types. And there's a reason why every newborn baby
Speaker 2: in the hospital gets a heel prick, and that that
Speaker 2: blood is stored in a database. Every human being alive
Speaker 2: when they were an infant got a heel prick and
Speaker 2: their blood was sent off into a database. All that shit,
Speaker 2: and they will find you and a lot of people. Oh,
Speaker 2: the redheads, Well, I'm a redhead. I've met a lot
Speaker 2: of redheads. The thing is is that they didn't. They
Speaker 2: weren't all redheads. There were Ariyan type looking ones, there
Speaker 2: were Middle Eastern type looking ones, there were I mean,
Speaker 2: you name it. They were interbreeding. So they're not necessarily
Speaker 2: keeping a physical trait. They're keeping the magic in their blood,
Speaker 2: which is why they think they're superior to us.
Speaker 1: Well, I'll see this to all of the cryptids that
Speaker 1: are currently listening. I don't know if cryptids listen to podcasts,
Speaker 1: but I imagine if they did, they probably listened to
Speaker 1: a conspiracy show. Whenever we're talking about like all right, well, yes,
Speaker 1: it seems like some kind of weird club. If you
Speaker 1: were not invited or if you come unannounced, then you
Speaker 1: know there's gonna be some repercussions going on there. But like,
Speaker 1: I feel like maybe not everybody has had to deal
Speaker 1: with the same face, right, Like, maybe there are a
Speaker 1: lot of people who die as a result of it,
Speaker 1: but then there's others. Obviously the tale carries on enough
Speaker 1: to live like in order for us to be able
Speaker 1: to hear about it. So there are people who have
Speaker 1: successfully gone to this place or else if nobody would
Speaker 1: would have ever heard of it. So what if we
Speaker 1: could suggest here that maybe this is kind of like
Speaker 1: a I don't know, a Salem witch trial kind of vibe,
Speaker 1: where you know, a lot of the witches back in
Speaker 1: the day, they well not even just witches. But like,
Speaker 1: think about secret societies. The whole, the whole reason why
Speaker 1: secret societies were even made in the first place was
Speaker 1: because they feared judgment from religious folk who would cast
Speaker 1: them out and call them all demonic and say that
Speaker 1: they're playing with stuff that is against God and stuff
Speaker 1: like that. So they had to form these secret societies.
Speaker 1: And same thing with witchcraft. I mean, all the women,
Speaker 1: you know, they didn't really get along back in the
Speaker 1: biblical days, right like in the early days, and so
Speaker 1: they started going off and finding their own form of spirituality.
Speaker 1: Well what happens whenever they get fined found out, Well,
Speaker 1: let's burn them all. Let's let's tie a fucking stone
Speaker 1: and see see if they can see if they can swim,
Speaker 1: you know, whenever you tie a stone to their legs.
Speaker 1: So it's kind of like, could this be that maybe
Speaker 1: they understand the person that's coming in that. I mean,
Speaker 1: if we're talking about ethereal beings, who's to say they
Speaker 1: wouldn't be some kind of telekinetic powers to be able
Speaker 1: to understand, Well, what's your reason for coming here? You know,
Speaker 1: if you're coming here to expose us, if you're coming here,
Speaker 1: and like, I don't know, you know what I mean, Like, well,
Speaker 1: I do.
Speaker 2: Think they are interdimensional like cryptids. I do believe that
Speaker 2: they are interdimensional. And I feel like they have that
Speaker 2: because of their parents, who were fallen angels. I think
Speaker 2: that they have that because they're divine beings. Whether they're
Speaker 2: have they have a fallen nature or not, they would
Speaker 2: still be capable of those things because their parents were
Speaker 2: capable of those things.
Speaker 1: It just out of curiosity, because this is whenever we're
Speaker 1: talking about you know, Nephelum and you know fallen angels
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. That's mainly Old Testament. Did they
Speaker 1: talk about that shit in the New Testament?
Speaker 3: I mean they talk about possessions in the New Testament,
Speaker 3: which is the monarch's inside a human. There are a
Speaker 3: few examples of angels making themselves known to people. There
Speaker 3: is Jesus, but there's Paul meeting Jesus and being smitten
Speaker 3: with his glory, which is why scales fell from his eyes.
Speaker 4: I mean there's there's examples.
Speaker 2: Yes, Well, see why you don't hear about it in
Speaker 2: the New Testament is simply this. They were wreaking havoc
Speaker 2: on Earth and destroying everything and convoluting everything, and it
Speaker 2: was so fucked that God wanted to reset everything, which
Speaker 2: is where you get throughout time in every culture. The
Speaker 2: flood story correct, so one.
Speaker 1: All floods, though it's not just one like.
Speaker 2: Let's say the flood story. We'll just call it that
Speaker 2: the flood story, okay, And so I think that there
Speaker 2: was pocket that were resilient that maybe lived through the flood,
Speaker 2: but not to the degree that it was before. Because
Speaker 2: you do hear about when they went into the land
Speaker 2: of Canaan. There was giants there, David and Goliath. Goliath
Speaker 2: was a giant that was all after the flood, so
Speaker 2: there had to be little bits that resisted, or a
Speaker 2: second incursion, if you will.
Speaker 3: I think it's very possible that these fallen angels didn't
Speaker 3: just mate with things on land.
Speaker 4: I believe that the.
Speaker 3: Mermaid story has a little more too than what Disney
Speaker 3: gives it. Right, And like the actual Mermaids of old
Speaker 3: that were seen, not as these oh they're so gorgeous. No,
Speaker 3: the ones that will fucking eat you and your whole
Speaker 3: life son like that, They like the one that what
Speaker 3: was named Jason has argonauts pour wax in all their
Speaker 3: ears so that they couldn't hear it because they will
Speaker 3: fucking murk us all just trying to sail through. Like that,
Speaker 3: I think has a little more credence in some truth
Speaker 3: than what people want to believe. And I also don't
Speaker 3: think that it's out of the realm of possibility that
Speaker 3: some sort of weird, demonic fish fucking took place. And
Speaker 3: maybe that's how giants not full fledged neffuelum, but like
Speaker 3: Defendant of Descendants, politation happened.
Speaker 4: You know, what I'm saying, mermaids, there's all contra stories.
Speaker 2: I'm with you, I agree. I think that's where the
Speaker 2: mermaid stories come from. But I'm just saying after the flood,
Speaker 2: the ones that died, God said that he sent their
Speaker 2: spirits to like an intermediate place Shelle, and that they
Speaker 2: they can never rest, they can't walk amongst us in
Speaker 2: the physical world, but they can interact with us in
Speaker 2: the spiritual world, and that their evil spirits are never
Speaker 2: at rest, and they're always looking for a body to possess.
Speaker 2: So that's why it went from Old Testament they're walking
Speaker 2: among New Testament. Jesus is having to cast out demons
Speaker 2: from everybody because these fallen angel spirits are looking for
Speaker 2: someone to open the doorway so they can come in.
Speaker 2: They're always looking for a host, and so it's also
Speaker 2: known that let's say, uh that they find a host
Speaker 2: and then your demon possessed or whatever, and you get
Speaker 2: that casted out of you. That's fine, you can go
Speaker 2: on and live your normal life. But what if you
Speaker 2: needed one of these beings because of their superior knowledge
Speaker 2: or capabilities. Da da da da da. What if we
Speaker 2: created an empty biological vessel for this spirit to inhabit,
Speaker 2: and that's where a lot of the gray ets come from.
Speaker 2: They talk about gray ets being empty biological vessels, and
Speaker 2: I think it's kind of and I could be totally wrong,
Speaker 2: but if you created an empty biological vessel with a
Speaker 2: big elongated skull like the freaking being that Aleister Crowley
Speaker 2: channeled for these spirits to inhabit, they could interact with
Speaker 2: us in the physical world without having to possess a body.
Speaker 1: So all right, this is really interesting because it was
Speaker 1: just last week on my other podcast that that we
Speaker 1: had this this Muslim guy come onto the show and
Speaker 1: I got, really, you know, I wanted to ask them exactly,
Speaker 1: like if are there exorcisms involved? I know that y'all
Speaker 1: don't really call them demons. It's more of the gin
Speaker 1: like pretty similar kind of thing going on there. Do
Speaker 1: you ever have like any kind of exorcisms going on there?
Speaker 1: And what name do you call out to make these
Speaker 1: fucking demons escape from the body? Right? I shit, you not, bro,
Speaker 1: It's it's not what you would think because I always
Speaker 1: heard that people always say you gotta say Jesus. Right,
Speaker 1: it turns out that the only thing that works according
Speaker 1: to this gentleman. He says that, and I'm gonna butcher
Speaker 1: it by saying it. It's uh, it's alu basically like
Speaker 1: a la akbar, but it's like alua akbar or something
Speaker 1: like that, which which basically means that God is the greatest.
Speaker 1: And and so they escape by that or they're they're
Speaker 1: forced out by that as well. And so it's it's
Speaker 1: pretty interesting that you kind of see these possessions happening
Speaker 1: really across different religions. I thought that it was mainly
Speaker 1: a Christian thing, but it turns out it's amongst uh
Speaker 1: other Abrahamic religions as well.
Speaker 2: No, remember I mentioned it at the beginning of this episode.
Speaker 2: The Shamans from the Bond religion. One of their first
Speaker 2: fucking manuals in their text was how to cast out Demons?
Speaker 4: One?
Speaker 1: Oh, one, good point. Point, all right, all right, but
Speaker 1: no so but.
Speaker 3: No, to your point, Julie, I agree that there is
Speaker 3: there is obviously the force of white and the force
Speaker 3: of dark. And yes, that means that they have workers
Speaker 3: in that not just I mean the etherory, but we
Speaker 3: would say angels and demons. Someone else might call it
Speaker 3: the fay and the gin.
Speaker 4: I don't know. Pick your poison. It doesn't matter. But
Speaker 4: to your point, yes, one of those sides is clamoring
Speaker 4: and clawing.
Speaker 3: To get out and get to us, and the other
Speaker 3: side is waiting for us to come to them.
Speaker 4: You know, that's just my two cents on it.
Speaker 3: It's very clear that whenever you would have an empty vessel,
Speaker 3: so to speak, the grays or even a cloned human,
Speaker 3: one of these sides is.
Speaker 4: Clomaring to get out. The other side is waiting. You
Speaker 4: see what I'm saying. So that makes sense that this
Speaker 4: would go that way.
Speaker 1: Well, let me ask you your opinion on this though, Like,
Speaker 1: do you believe that you can speak to you know,
Speaker 1: loved ones that have passed? Is that pot Like do
Speaker 1: you ever say you know? So? For example, my grandma,
Speaker 1: I call her Nana. You know, if I'm ever like
Speaker 1: in a pickle, always just try and call upon her
Speaker 1: wisdom in a sense, right, and and I'll you know,
Speaker 1: I'll reach out and I feel like, you know, there's
Speaker 1: some kind of guidance going on. I mean, it's you
Speaker 1: can't really confirm or deny it in one way. It's
Speaker 1: a spiritual thing, right. But that being said, is it
Speaker 1: possible that I'm not talking to her.
Speaker 2: I do not like that, Jonathan. Actually, I'll tell you honestly,
Speaker 2: because I grew up in a haunted house and I'm
Speaker 2: very Christian. And it's not that my information that I
Speaker 2: provide on this podcast or on my own podcast is
Speaker 2: diminished in any way Because I identify myself to be
Speaker 2: a Christian. I think that the information I provide you
Speaker 2: can take it however you want to take it, but
Speaker 2: it's the same, you know. But in my opinion, I
Speaker 2: think that you can get angel visits and your loved
Speaker 2: ones can send you signs, just like the angels came
Speaker 2: down and spoke to Mary and told her that she
Speaker 2: was going to be pregnant with God's You know, you
Speaker 2: hear about angels, heavenly angels interacting with humans. Why would
Speaker 2: it be any different when your family members become angels
Speaker 2: like you. I believe you can still get angel visits.
Speaker 2: But if you ever thought that you heard her voice
Speaker 2: but you got a distinctual sick feeling in your stomach
Speaker 2: when you heard it, a little bit different, little bit different.
Speaker 3: Right, So I'll say this, and I'm probably gonna piss
Speaker 3: awesome Christians with this answer. So I believe that, yes,
Speaker 3: you can talk to dead people and relatives and loved ones.
Speaker 3: The Bible is very clear that this is a thing
Speaker 3: that can happen. Necromancers are for real. The Bible also says,
Speaker 3: don't fucking.
Speaker 4: Do it now.
Speaker 3: That being said, if a loved one from the other
Speaker 3: side comes to visit you, that is a difference.
Speaker 4: You didn't seek that out.
Speaker 3: You see what I'm saying, and that is somebody who
Speaker 3: that coming from, somebody who had a what I thought
Speaker 3: was a family member coming out to meet me. In reality,
Speaker 3: it was a demon in disguise. I'm not saying that
Speaker 3: that is going to be a one hundred percent case
Speaker 3: across the board. I'm not gonna judge someone else's experiences.
Speaker 3: That was mine, and I take it as a with
Speaker 3: a grain of salt. I'm saying that it's I believe
Speaker 3: that it's possible. You could be visiting a dream, you
Speaker 3: could be visited by a loved one. I'm not gonna
Speaker 3: say that's impossible. The Bible says it fully is. But
Speaker 3: like going onto a Ouiji board or going to a
Speaker 3: medium to talk to somebody, the Bible is clear that
Speaker 3: it can happen.
Speaker 4: This is real life, and don't fucking do it. That's
Speaker 4: just nice.
Speaker 2: I mean it does say don't fucking do it, but
Speaker 2: if you're in your.
Speaker 1: Kitchen, both words don't fucking do it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, essentially, I might be paraphrasing a bit.
Speaker 2: Okay, be jealous, Like yeah, like let's let's say in
Speaker 2: Jonathan's situation. And it's happened to me before too, because
Speaker 2: me and my mom were so we were almost the
Speaker 2: same person. We were so close, and I had her
Speaker 2: on my mind and she's been heavy on my mind
Speaker 2: for you know, this day. We'll say and I'm in
Speaker 2: my kitchen and then I smell something that I'm like,
Speaker 2: oh my god, that's my mom, or I feel her,
Speaker 2: or I sent something, or I get a message, or
Speaker 2: like randomly, I was really really thinking of her, and
Speaker 2: it was heavy on my heart the other day. And
Speaker 2: then she was suggested to me to follow on Instagram,
Speaker 2: you know, stuff like that. I think that those are signs,
Speaker 2: you know, like I've never been suggested to follow my
Speaker 2: mom on Instagram from my podcast Instagram before, but that
Speaker 2: day she popped up and I just needed to see
Speaker 2: her face. So yeah, I do think they can send
Speaker 2: you these little reminders.
Speaker 4: That you're but you weren't seeking that out.
Speaker 5: You were like, I'm not.
Speaker 2: Losing I'm not lighting up a ritual or anything like that.
Speaker 1: Well, if we're trying to get really weird here technically, scientifically,
Speaker 1: it may be not necess necessarily what you think. So
Speaker 1: whenever we get into the quantum mechanics and you know,
Speaker 1: the physics of all of it, and then you get
Speaker 1: into fucking quantum entanglement, Quantum entanglement is just an energy
Speaker 1: that goes back and forth. It could be from from
Speaker 1: you right now all the way to the opposite end
Speaker 1: of the universe. If you believe the universe is a
Speaker 1: real thing. That being said, it's said to like trek
Speaker 1: like it's it's not bound by time, it's not bound
Speaker 1: by you know, the the regular laws of physics and
Speaker 1: stuff like that. Right, So maybe you could be reaching
Speaker 1: said loved one in another year, in another in another world,
Speaker 1: in another dimension, in another fucking parallel universe. I don't
Speaker 1: necessarily believe that whenever we die we automatically just go
Speaker 1: rest forever until the Kingdom of God comes down to Earth.
Speaker 1: I think that there's probably more to it.
Speaker 2: I think to heaven or hell. Okay, all right, but listen, listen,
Speaker 2: hear me out.
Speaker 4: I think it's like an immediate judgment. I don't think
Speaker 4: God needs a waiting room.
Speaker 2: Yeah it's an immediate need. That right, Yeah, I do
Speaker 2: believe it's an immediate judgment. But I this is my thing.
Speaker 2: The Bible is one of the most supernatural texts that
Speaker 2: was ever written, and people just completely ignore that. And
Speaker 2: I was actually speaking to someone who's went back and
Speaker 2: to the original original I'm not talking about a transliteration
Speaker 2: or a translation or anything like that, the original text.
Speaker 2: And he was talking to me about the Tower of Babel,
Speaker 2: and people think of it as this physical tower that
Speaker 2: they were building into the heavens and they were trying
Speaker 2: to go fight God and that sounds so stupid and silly.
Speaker 2: Ha ha ha ha. But the actual word that is
Speaker 2: mistranslated is that it was never tower. It was never tower.
Speaker 2: The original word was portal.
Speaker 1: Let's fucking go. That makes so much more sense.
Speaker 2: They were trying to fight God on his terms.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's what I you know what. And that's something
Speaker 1: that's always baffled me. Whenever we're talking about a tower,
Speaker 1: like we got fucking supposed these spaceships that are going
Speaker 1: to outer space. But a tower's the one that got
Speaker 1: struck down.
Speaker 2: You know, they're building a stargate, which is why the
Speaker 2: Bible he separated everyone because they were becoming too smart that.
Speaker 1: Math maths, Jacob.
Speaker 4: I never heard this before. I would. I'm going to
Speaker 4: look into the actual Hebrew word. But to your point,
Speaker 4: you're right.
Speaker 3: The Bible itself is one of the most and in
Speaker 3: the UH. I was going to say something that was
Speaker 3: going to sound derogatory and mean spirited, and it wasn't
Speaker 3: intended that way. Let me let me check thine self here, me.
Speaker 3: The Bible isn't a book of magic. However, if you
Speaker 3: really wanted to break it down by its complexities, it
Speaker 3: might as well be. It works mathematically, it checks out
Speaker 3: that if you do what it says do, it works,
Speaker 3: and if you like, break that down. I heard a
Speaker 3: pastor it was just breaking down per the Hebrew language
Speaker 3: in the beginning the first three words of the Bible.
Speaker 4: Okay, we think of.
Speaker 3: That, and we hear that all time, and we immediately imagine,
Speaker 3: you know, vacant stardust floating into nothingness or something. Right,
Speaker 3: everybody's got their own version of it. The Hebrew language
Speaker 3: of those three words. The math that breaks down of
Speaker 3: those three words basically this, dude, not even like pulling
Speaker 3: it at string theories. Here very educationally breaking down the
Speaker 3: Hebrew language. What is meant by every syllable, every number,
Speaker 3: every consonant, everything in the beginning literally stands for at
Speaker 3: the absolute point of the beginning of all of it
Speaker 3: and to the end of forever. Is that's all that's
Speaker 3: encumbassed by those three words. If you really break it down,
Speaker 3: it's talking about basically this, it is insane. And if
Speaker 3: you really break things down, you really dig deeper. And
Speaker 3: again not per English translations. Look at the English translations,
Speaker 3: study that it's beautiful. Look at the Latin translations and
Speaker 3: study that. Look at the Greek translations, look at the
Speaker 3: Hebrew translations, look at the Ethiopian Coptic translations, like it
Speaker 3: is incredible. The breakdowns that have been done by educated
Speaker 3: people far smarter than any of us will ever be.
Speaker 1: So in the beginning also encompasses the end all of it.
Speaker 2: But I do want to interject something, and it's not
Speaker 2: to downplay anything that Jacob has just said, but I've
Speaker 2: gotten to a point where I've been raised in this
Speaker 2: religion and I've come under attack from many people saying
Speaker 2: how stupid it is. And I will tell you that
Speaker 2: a lot of people, and I always keep this right here,
Speaker 2: a lot of people are getting wrapped up in this Okay,
Speaker 2: they're getting wrapped up in this part. And if you
Speaker 2: want a boring version of Christianity where you've got to
Speaker 2: sit and open this thing up and read these words,
Speaker 2: I'm sorry. I just don't think you're going about it
Speaker 2: the right way. Because in the Bible this is like
Speaker 2: a cheat code for us to use for life and
Speaker 2: to give us hope and faith. But in the Bible
Speaker 2: it says true Christians can call down the fire of God.
Speaker 2: They can create miracles, heal people, give sight to the blind,
Speaker 2: all these things. There's not a true Christian quote unquote
Speaker 2: on earth that is practicing that. Why Why bring down
Speaker 2: the fire of God? Stop worrying about this book, Stop
Speaker 2: worrying about the translation of these pages, stop worrying about
Speaker 2: what the words mean. Call down the fire of God
Speaker 2: and you will see miracles, and that's what gives you faith.
Speaker 1: Well, I can tell you are right now because all
Speaker 1: that stuff is labeled as magic, as wizardry, as witchcraft,
Speaker 1: as satanic like that, and that's where people don't know
Speaker 1: how to really discern the difference between the two. Like,
Speaker 1: I think that there absolutely is a difference, and correct
Speaker 1: me if I'm wrong here, but this is just my
Speaker 1: way of interpreting it. I think there's absolutely a difference
Speaker 1: between white magic and dark magic. There absolutely is. And
Speaker 1: you can say that it's being pulled from the same area.
Speaker 1: I don't believe that for one second, because I on
Speaker 1: every single episode of Meta Mysteries, I do a tarot reading,
Speaker 1: and every single time I pull a card, it is
Speaker 1: exactly a mirrored image of whatever the episode was talked about.
Speaker 1: Am I am I calling on the Dark Lord for that? No,
Speaker 1: I don't have evil in my heart. I'm not calling
Speaker 1: on Lucifer please, you know, shine your fucking light bearing light. No,
Speaker 1: and I don't. I don't get like some chills that
Speaker 1: go up my spine or you know, some kind of
Speaker 1: ache within my stomach whenever I'm reading this stuff out.
Speaker 1: It's not like that. And so I think that you know,
Speaker 1: it's worth it to at least take a gander. If
Speaker 1: you're not going to practice in it, I get it,
Speaker 1: but like, at least try to understand that side of
Speaker 1: things and stop calling all that evil that is you're like,
Speaker 1: you're selling yourself short. I believe I.
Speaker 2: Don't think anybody should condemn anyone for anything else. I
Speaker 2: think that at this point in my life, I want
Speaker 2: to I want to be a beacon of hope for
Speaker 2: people who are struggling in this crazy, crazy world that
Speaker 2: we live in. And if I can do that, great,
Speaker 2: But I'm not anyone's savior, and so I will continue
Speaker 2: to just do the best I can to provide factual
Speaker 2: and interesting information to open people's minds. But whatever they
Speaker 2: decide to do with their self at the end of
Speaker 2: the day is their decision. But I'm with you. I
Speaker 2: don't condemn anyone, but I know, wow, I.
Speaker 4: Think it depends on where it comes from.
Speaker 2: Though.
Speaker 3: If you're sacrificing children to perform your quote unquote miracle,
Speaker 3: then I'm sorry.
Speaker 4: We can all agree that that's based an evil.
Speaker 2: No, No, not that I'm talking about. He's saying he
Speaker 2: does a Taro reading like, I'm not who am I
Speaker 2: to tell him that's wrong, because I can't judge him.
Speaker 2: Only God.
Speaker 4: The Bible clearly said not to do it.
Speaker 1: Mm it said specifically Taro.
Speaker 3: It said specifically those that deal in chance, meaning those
Speaker 3: that cast bones and dice or play with cards and
Speaker 3: think that the randomness that will be presented before them
Speaker 3: has a prediction on their life. It says, don't do it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, but but chance, it's not chance. There's no
Speaker 1: way that it's chance.
Speaker 3: Really, you're dealing with a deck of cards, with all
Speaker 3: these different cards, and you're shuffling them.
Speaker 4: There's no chance.
Speaker 1: Literally just told you that every single episode a card
Speaker 1: relates to whatever it is we're talking about. How is
Speaker 1: that a chance that's saying that, like, oh, I got
Speaker 1: a fifty fifty chance. Now, I'm not saying it's fifty
Speaker 1: to fifty.
Speaker 4: Homie, No, you have like one of the time.
Speaker 1: I'm saying every time, dude, I'm telling you, dude, like
Speaker 1: this is Look, don't take my word for it. I'm
Speaker 1: just telling you my experiences. I don't believe that judge
Speaker 1: happening by chance at all. But anyway, all right, we've
Speaker 1: veered way off the track.
Speaker 5: No, I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't like you when you guys argue I'm such
Speaker 2: a pacifist.
Speaker 1: No, this is just brotherly love.
Speaker 4: This Okay. I know Jonathan deals with tarot cards, they
Speaker 4: talked about a bunch. I don't. I don't think that
Speaker 4: Jonathan is talking to Satan.
Speaker 2: No, I don't know.
Speaker 4: We're talking about the full extent of things.
Speaker 2: If I thought that, I would never come on your show, right.
Speaker 1: You know, dark Lord, go fuck yourself there, right right.
Speaker 1: I don't know what else I gotta say to get
Speaker 1: my point across with that, But anyway, let's get back
Speaker 1: to fucking uh Tibetan.
Speaker 2: Yeah, only have I just have a little bit of
Speaker 2: extra information here for you guys that I thought you
Speaker 2: would find interesting. There's a place near the Mount Kailash
Speaker 2: in the Himalayan Mountains called Skeleton Lake, and I'm not kidding.
Speaker 2: Google it, Jacob. It's the creepiest shit ever, Okay, and
Speaker 2: the beach, if you will, is made up of what
Speaker 2: is estimated to be around six hundred dead body Skeletonskay.
Speaker 1: What all right?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just I did Jacob's job. I googled it.
Speaker 4: And when did it be going my job to do that?
Speaker 4: Holy shit?
Speaker 3: I did it one time because I'm making sure we're
Speaker 3: talking about in the last millennia, and all of a sudden,
Speaker 3: Joe gonna ask Jamie to pull up some random ship.
Speaker 3: People love that eat fat check I do it now
Speaker 3: I'm getting called out whatever.
Speaker 2: You're just a pompous ass.
Speaker 5: But no.
Speaker 2: So as you can see from these photos here that
Speaker 2: Jonathan is showing, they estimate that this little beach here
Speaker 2: is made up of about six hundred dead body skeletons.
Speaker 2: And they say that all of these bones got there
Speaker 2: from some major catastrophe of some kind and they all
Speaker 2: died at the same time, and all these skeletons, it
Speaker 2: was like a crazy accident and they just ended up there.
Speaker 2: But in twenty nineteen they started studying individual bones and
Speaker 2: they found that skeleton like is actually some kind of
Speaker 2: a dumping site, and all the bodies have died at
Speaker 2: different times for different reasons, and it appears that the
Speaker 2: bones have been stacked up there for what is estimated
Speaker 2: to be thousands of years.
Speaker 4: So with an ancient burial place.
Speaker 2: Now, some of the goals showed unhealed compression fractures among
Speaker 2: other injuries, and researchers are still baff because they're dying
Speaker 2: in all sorts of weird trauma esque type of ways,
Speaker 2: and DNA testing confirms that they're all different races from
Speaker 2: all over the damn place. So it couldn't have been
Speaker 2: an isolated incident that caused this mass grave. And what
Speaker 2: draws people to this lake. It's on the Pilgrim's trail
Speaker 2: to Mount Kailash. In the Pilgrim's trail is to lead
Speaker 2: you to Shambala. Now, what do we know about the Yetti?
Speaker 2: The Guardians of Shambala not so much an esoteric creature
Speaker 2: but a very physical creature. So my question to you
Speaker 2: both is is there an interdimensional portal located in the
Speaker 2: mountains of Tibet or is there a physical cloaked kingdom
Speaker 2: that has been lost to us?
Speaker 4: Wow, I'm gonna be honest with you.
Speaker 3: As I'm looking at the pictures of those skulls and
Speaker 3: the bodies, my first thought before she even broke down
Speaker 3: what it was, was thinking, like, okay, I could see
Speaker 3: even a massive flood, right, and that washed all these
Speaker 3: bodies here, they decomposed, the skeletons remained this and this
Speaker 3: for that to be preserved in that manner for thousands
Speaker 3: of years as been predicted like this, Okay, that got
Speaker 3: me kind of like whatever. Then when she said no,
Speaker 3: but they're from different time periods, different ages around different
Speaker 3: like It's not like it was one tribe that was
Speaker 3: like washed down there with a flood.
Speaker 4: This was from all over the world. So that's got
Speaker 4: me thinking. Okay, I could see if this was a because.
Speaker 3: The Zoroastrians, for instance, they had their towers of silence, right,
Speaker 3: if the local inhabitants of Sibbet was bringing their dead
Speaker 3: and this was an ancient burial ground they had been
Speaker 3: using it as a barrel ground for these years, Okay,
Speaker 3: I could see that too.
Speaker 4: But again, they wouldn't be that well preserved.
Speaker 2: Me Caucasian and black and white and Asian and this,
Speaker 2: like there are different races, different time periods, compression, skull fractures,
Speaker 2: like all this weird stuff, like they got bashed over
Speaker 2: the head.
Speaker 3: See okay, even one Okay, let's say there's like a
Speaker 3: thousand bodies found. Hypotheticaler's still at an arbitrary number. If
Speaker 3: ten out of those one thousand were like victims and
Speaker 3: it was clear, Okay, I mean, what were the odds
Speaker 3: that some of them were dumped there because they were murdered?
Speaker 3: I could even get down with that. Let's give a
Speaker 3: little room for human error. That was a lot of
Speaker 3: bodies that wasn't just like the mafia's dumping grounds into
Speaker 3: bed for the last couple centuries. Like, that's not what
Speaker 3: we're talking about here.
Speaker 4: That's insane. Now, most of them, you said, had compression
Speaker 4: fractures and like serious.
Speaker 2: Trauma to them, trauma deaths.
Speaker 4: This is kind of a little bit bigger than that.
Speaker 4: I don't know what to make of it. I'm gonna
Speaker 4: be very honest with.
Speaker 2: You, But the question is, do you think that there's
Speaker 2: an interdimensional portal in the mountains or do you think
Speaker 2: that there is a very physical, cloaked kingdom?
Speaker 4: Mm? Oh, you're still waiting for me. I'm sorry. I
Speaker 4: thought Jonathan would actually take it a load.
Speaker 1: No, I'll go after you. I just wanted to see
Speaker 1: your opinion.
Speaker 3: I don't have an answer. This is the first I'm
Speaker 3: ever hearing of it. Given the evidence provided here, I
Speaker 3: would say that interdimensional. YETI might be out there just
Speaker 3: murking motherfuckers and dumping them in the lake for forever.
Speaker 4: I see that as kind of a pod candidate with you.
Speaker 4: There's no wrong.
Speaker 2: Answer, because nobody knows what the fuck's going on?
Speaker 1: Row right, Are you ready for the weirdest answer that
Speaker 1: you could possibly get?
Speaker 2: Hit me?
Speaker 1: Okay? So we know that the bigfoots, the yeties whatever,
Speaker 1: they're outside creatures, right, they like observing nature, being one
Speaker 1: with nature. They're a lot more connected to the forest
Speaker 1: than we are. Let's just be real in this dant a. Well,
Speaker 1: one crazy thing that you may find out whenever you
Speaker 1: spend a lot of time in nature is that you
Speaker 1: may start to learn how nature natures. Okay, for example,
Speaker 1: a lot of times around trees or some some spots
Speaker 1: in the woods, you'll see like a lot of poison ivy.
Speaker 1: We've all been in the woods. We've all experienced some
Speaker 1: kind of poison ivy, right, Well, it said that whenever
Speaker 1: poison ivy grows, it's usually the tree system or the
Speaker 1: fungal network that is speaking to you know, all these
Speaker 1: other plants that cause this poison ivy to grow to
Speaker 1: pro to help protect maybe other plants, help protect maybe
Speaker 1: some some other parts of the ground. So it'll grow
Speaker 1: that way, it like helps ward a lot of other
Speaker 1: creatures or people away from that area. Okay, now that
Speaker 1: being said, the Bigfoot, the yetty, whatever kind of interdimensional
Speaker 1: fucking space monster you want to think of, maybe they
Speaker 1: have took a lesson from old Mother Nature and and
Speaker 1: they said, you know what, I want people to not
Speaker 1: even come close to this area. This is my house,
Speaker 1: this is where I live. I don't want nobody coming
Speaker 1: and interference. Somebody knocks at my door, I mean, hey, dude,
Speaker 1: Louisiana Lass, somebody fucking you know breaks into your house,
Speaker 1: you have the right to put a bullet in between
Speaker 1: their eyes. Right. Well, I'm sure they don't really care
Speaker 1: about loss. But that's just another point. The point I'm
Speaker 1: trying to make is is it possible that I don't know,
Speaker 1: the bigfoots of this of this area have decided to
Speaker 1: lay out the skeletal bones in order to ward off
Speaker 1: oncoming people a lot like the poison ivy of the
Speaker 1: forest in a way, Because you think about it, why
Speaker 1: would you leave a trail of bones along the way.
Speaker 1: You're talking about bones that I don't know, Like you
Speaker 1: would think that maybe over generations would get overtaken by
Speaker 1: some mud or would break down in some kind of way,
Speaker 1: there would be some shit that would eventually get on
Speaker 1: top of it and make it sink down to the
Speaker 1: ground whatever. Right, But for some reason, this shit's just
Speaker 1: still there now. I don't know about the climate. I
Speaker 1: know it's cold. Maybe shit works differently on the hard ground.
Speaker 1: It's not gonna sink in. I get that, But for
Speaker 1: you to have an entire trail leading to this very
Speaker 1: specific lake kind of seems like he's trying to ward
Speaker 1: people off. Don't come to this area because if you do,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna fuck you up because this is my portal.
Speaker 2: I'm a bachelor, fucking head in.
Speaker 1: That's my answer. I believe it's a portal.
Speaker 2: Yeah, portal, says Jonathan and Jacob. Really you said it
Speaker 2: was a portal too, But do you think that they
Speaker 2: could be guarding a very physical place?
Speaker 3: So I believe that these yetty slash, big foot slash whatever,
Speaker 3: if they are real, and yes, we're gonna go ahead
Speaker 3: and throw the tin foil hats on.
Speaker 4: Hold on. I believe that they are interdimensional, meaning that
Speaker 4: they use that as a travel sense. I don't believe
Speaker 4: that there is a cloaked kingdom.
Speaker 3: Let me repraise that. Let me rephrase that we live
Speaker 3: in the third dimension. What is going on around us
Speaker 3: in the fourth dimension we don't know. Okay, Now that
Speaker 3: doesn't mean that it's cloaked. That just means that we
Speaker 3: don't know what's going on because we only have five senses.
Speaker 3: You see what I'm saying, So us it may we
Speaker 3: may use the term cloaks. I don't think it's hidden
Speaker 3: from us. I think it's just we clearly don't have
Speaker 3: We don't have the color spectrum in our eyes to
Speaker 3: see that much of the rainbow if you, if you
Speaker 3: catch my my drift here.
Speaker 4: So I believe that.
Speaker 3: These interdimensional beings jump in and out of that dimension
Speaker 3: to our dimension, and vice versa, from two D to
Speaker 3: three D. I don't see why that couldn't be possible
Speaker 3: on all fronts. So I think I believe what you're saying,
Speaker 3: but I call it different things, if.
Speaker 4: That makes sense.
Speaker 2: So we do know though that if you anyone can
Speaker 2: google it, Mount Kylash is a pyramid, a very physical pyramid, as.
Speaker 3: A john and pull that up and also tell them
Speaker 3: where they can see it. If they would like to
Speaker 3: see what you're talking about, you can.
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Speaker 1: all right, so here is How's Kailash?
Speaker 2: So I'll read you the article from April sixteenth, twenty
Speaker 2: twenty four. Scientists have discovered that the top of Mount
Speaker 2: Kailash is actually a man made vacuum pyramid. It is
Speaker 2: surrounded by more than one hundred other small pyramids. According
Speaker 2: to preliminary estimates, the direct height of the pyramid complex
Speaker 2: is between one hundred and eighteen hundred meters while the
Speaker 2: Egyptian pyramid is only one hundred forty six meters.
Speaker 1: Damn. So yeah, I mean it's a fucking mountain. It's huge.
Speaker 1: So to say that this is a pyramid, are we
Speaker 1: suggesting absolutely man made?
Speaker 2: That's what this article says.
Speaker 4: Wow, I'll say there's going to be a nay sayer.
Speaker 4: There's gonna be an a sayer that says that.
Speaker 3: That mountain was formed from glacial shifting, right like the
Speaker 3: matter Horn, very famous mountain that was done in a
Speaker 3: similar fashion.
Speaker 4: Look look at this thing and tell me that that
Speaker 4: is not equidescent on all sides.
Speaker 3: Glacial shifting making one side super smooth, one side this
Speaker 3: way and a little bit.
Speaker 4: That's one thing there.
Speaker 2: Of it. Though, if you look at certain angles in
Speaker 2: these pictures, you can tell that it's incredibly ancient pyramid.
Speaker 1: Yeah I could see that. Yeah, I mean whenever you
Speaker 1: look at like looking at other angles, look at that angle.
Speaker 1: Come on, that's for sure something different than the rest
Speaker 1: of the mountains that are around it.
Speaker 2: Now, that's why I tend to think that there is
Speaker 2: something interdimensional happening. Maybe Shambala was a very physical place
Speaker 2: when that wasn't a snow covered peak, and there was
Speaker 2: an actual civilization, a kingdom. But I don't think it
Speaker 2: exists anymore. Although people are still just like they still
Speaker 2: look for fucking dB Cooper's treasure chest. I don't think
Speaker 2: that they're going to find anything, but I do think
Speaker 2: that it could have existed.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, it's also possible that, you know, there's
Speaker 1: some kind of spiritual remnants left over. I mean a
Speaker 1: lot of people they go and visit, you know, the
Speaker 1: Pyramids of Giza, they say, I feel some kind of
Speaker 1: weird vibration. I can't really explain it. I feel different,
Speaker 1: My body feels weird. My mind is you know a
Speaker 1: lot of people get like a you know, maybe it's
Speaker 1: more of a possibility that you receive some kind of
Speaker 1: Yeah they're but.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 1: So yeah, that's what I'm saying. And dude, at whenever,
Speaker 1: whenever we're able to, I mean, you're talking about going
Speaker 1: full time here in August, praise me. But if if
Speaker 1: that does happen, or when that happens, but brother, there
Speaker 1: will be treks out to this mountain, out to other
Speaker 1: peers and all these weird places. I would love to
Speaker 1: go take a visit up to Skinwalker Ranch. I would
Speaker 1: love to take a visit out to the Arizona spot
Speaker 1: that I mentioned earlier, Sodona, like all these wild and
Speaker 1: weird places. Fucking Roswell all day, dude, sign me up.
Speaker 2: I've been there.
Speaker 4: How well, you know we're gonna be We're gonna be
Speaker 4: doing this for sure.
Speaker 2: They have a festival once a year. It's amazing. You
Speaker 2: should go. A lot of truthers and conspiracy theorists, people
Speaker 2: who are actually I met a guy who you can
Speaker 2: find on the guy a channel, but he also has
Speaker 2: his own YouTube channel. He was he worked in a
Speaker 2: secret underground military base and he spoke out about it
Speaker 2: and he was at the Roswell festival. So you should go. Well,
Speaker 2: they're having the festival. It's really cool to have alien
Speaker 2: pancakes that I hop.
Speaker 1: Damn ye you know around what month or what season?
Speaker 1: That's yeah, it was so.
Speaker 2: I went right before nope, right after the for the ji.
Speaker 2: It was the weekend right after the fourth of July,
Speaker 2: so you still have time.
Speaker 1: Jacob all right, Well that's a little bit before Jacob's
Speaker 1: going full time.
Speaker 3: So maybe this summer is going to be heavy, heavy
Speaker 3: with me working to try to get money stacked up
Speaker 3: for things, brother, But.
Speaker 4: It's really damn in our very very very near future,
Speaker 4: my man, we are going to be hitting all the
Speaker 4: things and all the stuff, I promise.
Speaker 1: You, and we are. I mean, we're talking about doing
Speaker 1: like a bunch of you know doing making this like
Speaker 1: an LLC and making it, you know, legit and stuff
Speaker 1: like that.
Speaker 4: I'm LLC to funk over here, my boy.
Speaker 1: And whenever that happens, dude, fucking conspiracy van on the way, baby.
Speaker 2: Just like the mystery.
Speaker 4: Machine, my truck purchase is about to be a business expense. Brother.
Speaker 2: Oh yes, hey, you know I have started a show.
Speaker 2: It's my same podcast, but it's just a thing that
Speaker 2: I do on random Fridays called Phantom Friday, and I
Speaker 2: talk to people about their paranormal experiences and and or
Speaker 2: cryptid experiences. And I've started going to a lot of
Speaker 2: on site haunted places here in Oklahoma and other places.
Speaker 2: And I do like a little pod Humanry on Patreon
Speaker 2: where I show you behind the scenes me staying there,
Speaker 2: My experience is staying there, the history behind the place.
Speaker 2: I stayed at a Masonic orphanage that's been converted to
Speaker 2: a bed and breakfast. I'm going somewhere next week actually
Speaker 2: in Ohio that is called Madison Seminary. It was like
Speaker 2: some dark stuff anyways, So I do find it interesting
Speaker 2: and I think it's very engaging for the listeners for
Speaker 2: you not only to talk the talk, but also walk
Speaker 2: the walk.
Speaker 1: Fucky. Yes, dude, that's that's like a that's a big dream.
Speaker 1: Like whenever we first started this, we we had dreams
Speaker 1: of like, all right, we're gonna we're gonna be like
Speaker 1: a traveling podcast, and we're gonna go visit all these
Speaker 1: all these wild places like and magine some crazy stuff
Speaker 1: goes down in like Kansas City or something like that,
Speaker 1: there's a fucking alien invasion. All right, hop in the
Speaker 1: fucking hop in the count Then we're going overnight. It's
Speaker 1: gonna be a red eye, you know.
Speaker 3: Like that's absolutely well, yeah, at least like once a
Speaker 3: month us taking a trip somewhere to do something.
Speaker 4: I absolutely see that being.
Speaker 2: A thing something that you should add to the bucket
Speaker 2: list that we could collaborate on. And I've always wanted
Speaker 2: to collaborate with someone on it because it's a very
Speaker 2: big topic. Is and actually Jonathan is closer than maybe
Speaker 2: you are Jacob. But the Oklahoma City bombing Memorial and
Speaker 2: the conspiracies behind that, I live twenty minutes from it,
Speaker 2: maybe less, and I've never wanted to go there and
Speaker 2: cover it. I mean that you can still go in
Speaker 2: one of the buildings and see all this stuff. But
Speaker 2: and the memorial itself is extremely a cult in my opinion.
Speaker 2: But uh, like the reflection pool, similar to what they
Speaker 2: did for nine to eleven. But it's such a huge
Speaker 2: topic that I've wanted someone to help me with it
Speaker 2: because there's a lot of information to cover. So if
Speaker 2: you're ever in Oklahoma, we can do an episode on it.
Speaker 2: It would be pretty interesting.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say that it would be that crazy that
Speaker 1: this summer would be too soon just to get real weird.
Speaker 1: I mean it's not. I mean, yes, yes, dude, I
Speaker 1: would love to go and cover all that, all that
Speaker 1: jazz like, because there's a lot of conspiracy surrounding that. Okay,
Speaker 1: see bombing, dude, like that, that's some wild shit that's
Speaker 1: going on there.
Speaker 2: You can go and play your hands on some of
Speaker 2: this stuff. They have parts of the building that we're
Speaker 2: still intact with, like all the little splatters on it
Speaker 2: that you can just go and put your hand on it.
Speaker 2: It's really crazy. You guys got to see it.
Speaker 1: I'm down. Yeah, that's definitely in the works. Well absolutely, Julia.
Speaker 1: So tell us a little bit about how your show
Speaker 1: has been going that, you know, maybe some other topics
Speaker 1: that you've been covering, maybe some some pointers as to
Speaker 1: when the next time you'd be coming on and covering
Speaker 1: a certain thing.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I would love anytime that I do
Speaker 2: a big research like this that's taken me a couple
Speaker 2: months to put together. I like to come on your
Speaker 2: show and try to give you something different. A lot
Speaker 2: of times the information can get repetitive, and I want
Speaker 2: to be interesting. So I came on and talked to
Speaker 2: you about the.
Speaker 1: He's still there.
Speaker 4: Oh okay, I'm here, go go ahead.
Speaker 2: I came on and talked to you about the Marilyn Monroe,
Speaker 2: Jim Carrey, you name it. I'm always working on something,
Speaker 2: so God only knows. We'll get together on another topic soon.
Speaker 2: But I've just been doing the same wonderful stuff. I
Speaker 2: have Laurel Canyon that I talked about on Tinfoil Hat,
Speaker 2: Marilyn Monroe, I talked about that on your show and
Speaker 2: tinfoil hat. I have the Phantom Fridays with cryptied and
Speaker 2: paranormal true cryptied and paranormal experiences. And I like to
Speaker 2: go deep dive into movies and show all of the
Speaker 2: weird symbolism and also musical artists, actors, et cetera. And
Speaker 2: actually one of the ones that I have been looking
Speaker 2: into is Harry and the Henderson. So maybe it's interesting
Speaker 2: that it got brought up on this episode.
Speaker 1: What is what is there to look for in that?
Speaker 1: Like what's tickled the fancy?
Speaker 2: That would be surprised symbolism?
Speaker 1: M oh okay.
Speaker 2: And the director, you know, he didn't start off making
Speaker 2: children's films. He starts it off making psychological thrillers. In
Speaker 2: the first movie he ever wrote and directed was a
Speaker 2: movie called Nymph, and it was about a little girl
Speaker 2: who had split personality disorder. And I believe the cover
Speaker 2: of the movie said underage and overeager.
Speaker 1: Whoa yeah.
Speaker 2: Then he partnered with Steven Spielberg to come up for
Speaker 2: the concept of Harry and the Henderson's.
Speaker 1: Oh man, this sounds like some girls going on.
Speaker 4: I just took a fucking negative turn. Holy shit.
Speaker 1: You know, in a similar story would be I can
Speaker 1: never remember his name, but the writer from Rick and Morty,
Speaker 1: you know that he didn't start was accused of what.
Speaker 2: Was I remember, like no, no, no no, you struck
Speaker 2: a chord with Jacob. He watches that.
Speaker 3: She never know.
Speaker 1: I still I still watch it all the time. It's
Speaker 1: one of my favorit. Chose to watch One Baked. I
Speaker 1: love it.
Speaker 3: I heard there was allegations of things, but I never
Speaker 3: heard confirmed what happened.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's necessarily allegations as much as
Speaker 1: it is a script or TV show that he started
Speaker 1: working on that was extremely like yeah, it's it's not
Speaker 1: it's like some heady stuff like well it was basically
Speaker 1: centered around and y'all can go look this up. But uh,
Speaker 1: it was basically I want to say, it was like
Speaker 1: an HBO thing, maybe something like that Cinemax but he made.
Speaker 1: It was like a TV show or a movie or
Speaker 1: something like that that he made. And it was like
Speaker 1: a teacher who like developed this weird love for one
Speaker 1: of his little his little boy students.
Speaker 2: It has to be in there somewhere, right and.
Speaker 1: So like so much so that the teacher ends up
Speaker 1: stalking the kid all the way home and the kid
Speaker 1: sleeps out in the living room on the couch so
Speaker 1: that the teacher can peek in through the window, and
Speaker 1: it's like, dude, it's like super sexually predatory and everything
Speaker 1: like it's it's not good anyway. That's where it that,
Speaker 1: like it was like forgotten about or maybe it just
Speaker 1: never made it big. Obviously, I imagine something like that wouldn't.
Speaker 1: But then like it came like it made its rounds.
Speaker 1: I guess people started looking into it and they're like,
Speaker 1: what this guy made fucking Rick and Morty, Like what
Speaker 1: the hell? And that's supposedly, from what I heard, is
Speaker 1: the reason why Rick and Morty went off the air
Speaker 1: for a year or two because it remember, because it
Speaker 1: it took a little break, like for a year.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it took a long break. And I was like,
Speaker 4: we'll see when it comes back, like that was a
Speaker 4: part of it all.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's the reason why.
Speaker 4: Cray.
Speaker 2: That's pretty fucking Cray. But that's the stuff I love
Speaker 2: to look into and I like to cover it on
Speaker 2: my show. I cover all kinds of stuff just like
Speaker 2: you guys. I mean, no topic is really off limits
Speaker 2: for me. I like true crime stuff too that ends
Speaker 2: up actually being kind of conspiratorial because a lot of
Speaker 2: murderers were made by design. Oh yeah, well, program to
Speaker 2: Kill Baby, Programmed to kill dude.
Speaker 1: I'm saying like a lot of these uh serial killers,
Speaker 1: they they got a cold following, you know, like people
Speaker 1: love that ship. Like what was that one the dude
Speaker 1: who was eating faces? Uh dammer right, he.
Speaker 2: Ate dicks and balls and ass and everything.
Speaker 1: Hey dude, ass was probably you know a lot of
Speaker 1: meat up in that dang. But uh but yeah, like
Speaker 1: even he remember like in the documentary or in the
Speaker 1: show whatever that they made with Netflick show. Yeah, remember
Speaker 1: he was like getting like fan mail while he was
Speaker 1: in jail.
Speaker 2: Yeah, did Ted Bundy. So did Richard Ramirez.
Speaker 3: And he on the who was writing him, Brian Peck
Speaker 3: was writing John Wayne Gazey and was like pen pals
Speaker 3: of him and had self portraits that he did of
Speaker 3: himself in jail.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Man, I'm telling you program to Kill Baby, program to
Speaker 2: kill and.
Speaker 1: You see it all the time, and this is like
Speaker 1: their sickening dude, because they try and lure the kids
Speaker 1: in with with this kind of stuff. It's like, oh, well,
Speaker 1: you know, look this director he made Rick and Morty.
Speaker 1: I like him. Now and let me let me look
Speaker 1: into that, and it's like it's a lot of what
Speaker 1: you were talking about about that satanic ritual abuse, right
Speaker 1: like that, that fucking programming. Like today you're gonna be Cinderella.
Speaker 1: You're not Maria anymore, you know what I mean? And
Speaker 1: I believe that wholeheartedly. Like this is full on MK
Speaker 1: ultra style shit.
Speaker 2: One of these days, and you can name the day,
Speaker 2: I'll have to come on and it's gonna be a
Speaker 2: fucking long one. But I will give you John Benet
Speaker 2: Ramsey what happened?
Speaker 4: We've been talking about doing a gentlemin A Ramsey episode.
Speaker 2: Fuck yes, I've done a two part series on it.
Speaker 1: Well, look, you can definitely come back next month with
Speaker 1: that one. Okay, you can come back next week for
Speaker 1: all I care, But like you know, we'll we'll space
Speaker 1: him out a little bit. All right. Well, look, Julia,
Speaker 1: you always come and you you bring the best, the
Speaker 1: best stuff all the time. Like it really gets the
Speaker 1: mind stirring every single episode. Like you said, you came on,
Speaker 1: Marilyn Monroe, Jim Carrey, you did the Halloween horror special
Speaker 1: that we did, which was a lot of.
Speaker 2: Fun, and we also did the Halloween murders.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yes we did, and.
Speaker 1: So it's always such a great time. Let our cult
Speaker 1: members know where to find you if they don't already.
Speaker 2: Oh thank you. Yeah, I'm wherever you listen to podcasts.
Speaker 2: Not on YouTube anymore because fuck them and Patreon, Room
Speaker 2: two three seven is available where you can get the
Speaker 2: video and a full audio and early access to every
Speaker 2: episode in bonus content there. And I am very appreciative
Speaker 2: of you having me on because as a female in
Speaker 2: the Conspiracy Theory podcast, I feel like we kind of
Speaker 2: eat our own a little bit, and I just want
Speaker 2: to give people good information. I'm not really in this
Speaker 2: for any type of like look at me. I would
Speaker 2: rather people just learn something, please, for the love of
Speaker 2: fux sake, learn something.
Speaker 1: Yes, I absolutely agree. Well, yeah, like you know, you're
Speaker 1: always welcome over here. You don't even need to really ask,
Speaker 1: just to be like, hey, what you got going on
Speaker 1: next week? I'm gonna come on with this and be
Speaker 1: like all right, you're on like that, okay, good, completely
Speaker 1: open door over here. But Jacob, I think we need
Speaker 1: some fucking knife hands, bro.
Speaker 3: I was actually gonna avoid those because of the mic situation.
Speaker 3: I don't know how I sound once again. Ladies and gentlemen,
Speaker 3: I apologize. This will be fixed before our next shooting.
Speaker 3: But if you haven't already gone and done so, please
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Speaker 4: The friends of family and loved ones and everybody in between.
Speaker 4: Here's the deal. And also do the same for our
Speaker 4: girl Julia here with the cos and Peace podcast. Here's
Speaker 4: the deal.
Speaker 3: The more activity that the algorithms see across all our
Speaker 3: listening platforms, the more we get promoted some more potential
Speaker 3: listeners who can then become potential cult members like.
Speaker 4: The rest of you. Finally, and gentlemen, we thank you
Speaker 4: for everybody's already gone and done so.
Speaker 3: And please, if you haven't do it, help out our
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Speaker 1: Yes, it's a wonderful conspiracy community that we've created and
Speaker 1: that has been woven over the last couple of years.
Speaker 1: And it's just awesome the people that you meet along
Speaker 1: the way. It's like I love it, like these these
Speaker 1: are my people. Like whenever I have the whenever we
Speaker 1: have these shows, I'm like I'm home, you know, like this,
Speaker 1: I'm home, you know. But anyhow, with that being said,
Speaker 1: this was another beautiful episode of the Cult of Conspiracy.
Speaker 1: And my name is Jonathan, and there's one very important,
Speaker 1: extremely vital piece of information we need to learn just
Speaker 1: as soon as humanly possible. Open up that third
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