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<v Speaker 1>So when I read things like this it says here

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<v Speaker 1>the Fed just purchased twenty billion dollars in three year bonds.

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<v Speaker 1>I think, you know what, I could call that dude

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<v Speaker 1>who knows a guy from the store where he used

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<v Speaker 1>to work and get an opinion, or maybe just a

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<v Speaker 1>dude at the bank, or maybe someone who's a fund

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<v Speaker 1>advisor but not a fiduciary. But no, I decided and

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<v Speaker 1>said to call my friend and brother, zach Abraham into

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<v Speaker 1>the studio. He is a fiduciary. He is the chief

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<v Speaker 1>from decoxser of Browart Capital Management. He's ripped, he's ten,

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<v Speaker 1>He's ready, he joins this courtesy of God Almighty, thank

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<v Speaker 1>you link.

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<v Speaker 2>But Todd Herman show is one hundred percent disapproved by

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<v Speaker 2>big pharma technocrats and tyrant's everywhere from the high mountains

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<v Speaker 2>of Free America. Here's the Emerald City exile Todd Herman.

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<v Speaker 1>Today is the day to me in decent the times

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<v Speaker 1>s which God has decided wished to live in. Zach Abraham,

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<v Speaker 1>aforementioned afour pitched, joins us, so good to see you,

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<v Speaker 1>my brother, welcome.

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<v Speaker 3>Back, good to be back, good to be back.

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<v Speaker 1>Let us start with a minor little story something here

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<v Speaker 1>about the Federal Reserve purchasing twenty billion dollars in three

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<v Speaker 1>year bonds. I can't imagine that has any significance. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not like they're injecting liquidity to cut interest rates. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not like it's q E ten billion, is it? All

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<v Speaker 1>those things?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you know, I'll be honest with you. When I

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<v Speaker 4>saw that headline is a little bit of a head

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<v Speaker 4>scratcher to me, okay, And the reason why is because

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<v Speaker 4>I don't so the FED meeting is happening right now

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<v Speaker 4>as we speak, so Powell's i'm sure, explaining that, and

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<v Speaker 4>our lead analyst is in there watching it, so as

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<v Speaker 4>soon as I get off done with you, i'll know

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<v Speaker 4>exactly what Powell said about it. The reason that was

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<v Speaker 4>strange to me was because nobody's really worried about the

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<v Speaker 4>front end of the curve. And what I mean by

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<v Speaker 4>that is one one year bonds, two year, three year,

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<v Speaker 4>five year.

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<v Speaker 3>That's not the issue.

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<v Speaker 4>The thing that everybody's been concerned about is the back end,

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<v Speaker 4>so tens, twenties, and thirties.

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<v Speaker 3>So if you would have told me that.

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<v Speaker 4>The Fed bot twenty billion dollars worth of bonds, my

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<v Speaker 4>guess is I would have guessed that it had been

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<v Speaker 4>ten or thirty year treasuries.

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<v Speaker 3>Why they're buying three I don't know. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>If that's them easing back into quantitative easing mode, because

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<v Speaker 4>I do not think that we are going to get

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<v Speaker 4>through the next year year and a half without serious

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<v Speaker 4>interest rate cuts and probably running simultaneously quantitative easing.

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<v Speaker 1>So maybe that's let's make sure quantitative easing is conjuring money.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so, so and and and it really is that simple,

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<v Speaker 4>Todd Like, I'm glad you put it that way. It's

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<v Speaker 4>this money isn't coming from somewhere, Matt, Like, it's not

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<v Speaker 4>coming from anywhere real, right, They print the money.

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<v Speaker 3>They they well, they don't print it.

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<v Speaker 4>They push a button on their computer and put dollars

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<v Speaker 4>in an account. They then take those dollars that they

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<v Speaker 4>just created or conjured, as you said, and they buy

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<v Speaker 4>treasuries from the banks.

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<v Speaker 3>That's that's what they do. So I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>And the amount is kind of odd too, Like I

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<v Speaker 4>said to me, there's it feels symbolic. I'm just not

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<v Speaker 4>understanding exactly what kind of symbolism they're trying to get

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<v Speaker 4>across here, other than the fact that they're to me maybe,

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<v Speaker 4>And again that's why I'm interested to hear what Pal

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<v Speaker 4>has to say.

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<v Speaker 3>And now he explains it.

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<v Speaker 4>But to me, it's probably most likely move to just

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<v Speaker 4>reassure the markets and say the fat as you're back a.

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<v Speaker 1>Can that's that's that's that's certainly from a financial explanation.

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<v Speaker 1>I will always always uh seed you the expertise financially.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me offer just a tiny little thought. So we

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<v Speaker 1>had President Trump criticizing Powell, criticizing the FED, saying he's

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<v Speaker 1>constantly late. He's pathetically late late to the party. Should

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<v Speaker 1>be cutting interest rates now, should have done it ten

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<v Speaker 1>weeks ago. He's late, Larry Powell. So I could see

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<v Speaker 1>this is Pal going. You know what, I can do

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<v Speaker 1>whatever I want to do. I can buy the front

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<v Speaker 1>under the curve. I'm completely independent. When I conjure money.

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<v Speaker 1>It's debt to the American people, but it's money to us.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, hey, don I don't work for you.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, he can the other thing too, though it could

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<v Speaker 4>just as easily be the flip side of it.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, And here's why I say that, because when you

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<v Speaker 4>look at where the FED is and what they've communicated

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<v Speaker 4>thus far, they have not met their own criteria that

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<v Speaker 4>they have stated themselves for additional rate cuts. And when

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<v Speaker 4>you consider where you're at right now in terms of

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<v Speaker 4>where inflation is, where we're at in that battle, there is.

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<v Speaker 3>A fear, and I think it should and I think.

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<v Speaker 4>It's an appropriate fear by the FED to adjust rates

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<v Speaker 4>too early and reignite inflation. So you, I think it

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<v Speaker 4>probably is either your version or mine. I think that's

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<v Speaker 4>probably what he occurred here. It's either him trying to

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<v Speaker 4>show Trump I'll do whatever I want and asserting his independence,

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<v Speaker 4>or it's him saying, look, we can't justify a rate

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<v Speaker 4>cut right now, but we're very concerned by what's going on.

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<v Speaker 3>So we're going to give kind of a rate.

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<v Speaker 4>Cut light, if you will, a kind of a gentle

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<v Speaker 4>caressing of the market, telling them what here.

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<v Speaker 1>If people don't have the video version of the show,

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<v Speaker 1>they just meant you, they just missed you, gently caressing

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<v Speaker 1>Larry Powell is so, Larry, I love your curves and

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<v Speaker 1>this smell of you.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah so, And that's that's that's what I think. It's

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<v Speaker 3>either one of those two.

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<v Speaker 4>My suspicion is it's the second meaning, this is an

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<v Speaker 4>effort for them to say, look, we know that what

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<v Speaker 4>is currently happening is probably restricting liquidity to some degree.

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<v Speaker 4>It's it's certainly increasing friction and financial markets. We again,

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<v Speaker 4>we haven't met our own stated criteria to start cutting yet.

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<v Speaker 4>But what we'll do is we'll just do a little

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<v Speaker 4>bond purchase, try to squeeze a little more liquidity into

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<v Speaker 4>the system. But again, the fact he bought twenty billion

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<v Speaker 4>and the fact that it were three years makes me

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<v Speaker 4>believe it's more of a symbolic move, just reminding the

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<v Speaker 4>markets that the Fed's there.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, fair enough, there is a there's an ad that's

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<v Speaker 1>is how you use a celebrity endorsement. Without using this celebrity,

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<v Speaker 1>obviously corrupt public so called public officials ever. So I

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<v Speaker 1>want to show this to Zach and run us through

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<v Speaker 1>How cool it is to meet a guy who's been

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<v Speaker 1>he drove a logging truck and like on the weekends,

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<v Speaker 1>he still drives them. You know what I'm saying. So

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<v Speaker 1>so Zach. This is a company that see autopilots and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying it join autopilots. I'm saying it because they

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<v Speaker 1>did a smart thing. This is a great ad. And

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<v Speaker 1>here it is. This is someone who looks a lot

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<v Speaker 1>like well, I'll let you decide who she looks like.

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<v Speaker 5>What is my perfect trade? I get the tip at

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<v Speaker 5>three fifty eight. Market closes in two Do I buy Apple, Nope,

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<v Speaker 5>I buy a defense contractor more subtle. Next day, war

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<v Speaker 5>breaks out, stock triples. The Ethics Committee calls, how did

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<v Speaker 5>you know? I say, gut feeling. They respect that. As

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<v Speaker 5>I'm selling. A lobbyist walks in. He says, that was

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<v Speaker 3>I say, was it.

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<v Speaker 5>We spend the weekend at Camp David. No one's there.

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<v Speaker 5>It's romantic. Monday market's back in session. I tell him

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<v Speaker 5>to meet me in the Caymans, but I go to Switzerland.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't trust him. Besides, tax laws are better. Thirty

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<v Speaker 5>years later, I get a letter. I have a son.

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<v Speaker 5>He runs the SEC. This is where the story gets interesting.

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<v Speaker 5>I tell the lobbyist to meet me at the Lincoln

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<v Speaker 5>Memorial midnight. Turns out he's been following my trades for years.

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<v Speaker 5>Through Autopilot. It lets you invest like a politician without

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<v Speaker 5>marrying one. He says he needs one more tip. I

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<v Speaker 5>don't care. I don't show up. Flew to Singapore. That's

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<v Speaker 5>where I set up. The shell company shoots.

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<v Speaker 1>That the most gorgeous ads for a financial that you've

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<v Speaker 1>ever seen.

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<v Speaker 3>I said, yeah, that's brilliant. It's brilliant. I love it.

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<v Speaker 4>It's absolutely brilliant and yeah, I just like and the

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<v Speaker 4>fun Yeah, the funny thing about it is, I don't

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<v Speaker 4>think it's I mean, you know, I'm sure there's some embellishments,

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<v Speaker 4>but I don't think it's that far off.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not that far off.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't either. And even the part about the kid,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's no there's no proof that this person who

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<v Speaker 1>looks a lot like what's your name? Uh from San

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<v Speaker 1>Francisco and she's got like a two hundred and fifty

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<v Speaker 1>million networth and.

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<v Speaker 3>Dance stan see yeah, dance something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, oh yeah, right the queen of the blow out

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<v Speaker 1>where yeah, yeah, right during the COVID wherever you had

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<v Speaker 1>to wear the mask shot?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh Pelosi, yeah Pelosi, Yes, Nancy, I knew it was

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<v Speaker 4>something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no proof that she has an illegitimate kid from

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<v Speaker 1>a defense industry of lobby. It's but there's no proof

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<v Speaker 1>that she doesn't. And that's a negative you should have

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<v Speaker 1>to prove. Is it that murky? Is it that filthy?

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<v Speaker 1>Because if I'm looking at the networks of these guys,

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<v Speaker 1>Would they really do it that obvious? That every single

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<v Speaker 4>What I can tell you is that if we put

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<v Speaker 4>And seriously, yeah, and and and it's it's it literally

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<v Speaker 3>And when you say stuff like this, people.

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<v Speaker 4>Are kind of like, well, you don't know that when

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<v Speaker 4>excess of market returns, one of two things has to

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<v Speaker 3>These people are either on.

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<v Speaker 4>The level of a stand Ruck and Miller a buffet

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<v Speaker 4>or like Jim Simon's at Renaissance Technology, which you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I just described three of the best people to ever

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<v Speaker 3>Or it's fraud.

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<v Speaker 4>That's pretty simple, just yeah, just plain and simple and

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<v Speaker 4>and a good analogy of this, a good way to understand.

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<v Speaker 4>the hallmarks of that whole deal. It wasn't the amounts

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<v Speaker 4>the smooth returns. Now, now their returns aren't the same.

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<v Speaker 4>But I'm using this as an analogy, and guy like,

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<v Speaker 4>mean straight Ponzi's scheme, like it wasn't even investing the

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<v Speaker 3>But the way you could tell is when I look

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<v Speaker 4>I can't just look at somebody's returns automatically and go, okay,

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<v Speaker 4>that's fraudulent. But but when I look at the returns

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<v Speaker 4>and I don't don't see any volatility, that is a tell.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 4>And meanwhile, and why because you know, look at a

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<v Speaker 4>went on its great run. Yeah, okay, it had days

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<v Speaker 4>down ten to fifteen percent, right, and yet you go

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<v Speaker 3>Made a pile.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 4>Those types of there's no trader in the world that

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>So when you see smooth returns, the same is true

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<v Speaker 3>when you see somebody that doesn't have.

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<v Speaker 4>Like for instance, they're not somebody like stand Ruck and

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<v Speaker 4>They don't have a software setup or a computer setup

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<v Speaker 4>like Jim Simon's does at Renaissance Technology that helps explain that.

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<v Speaker 3>And yet you've got market.

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<v Speaker 4>It just I like, if you just looked at that

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, now let me get to a specific here, because

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<v Speaker 1>I want to make sure people understand this. I know

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<v Speaker 1>what you're saying is true obviously, and I know it

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<v Speaker 1>makes sense, but let me I want people to understand this.

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<v Speaker 1>If you and I let's say that we're down in

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<v Speaker 1>Mexico together, Okay, we're hanging out. Let's say we're having

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<v Speaker 1>dinner and gentlemen sits down and says, say, mind if

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<v Speaker 1>I join you? Right, And so it's a public place. Hey, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>you have a seat reving tacos. We start to visit,

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<v Speaker 1>at me. I'm suddenly suicided. Sorry, I mean not really,

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<v Speaker 1>because you know, Farmer loves me. But let's say we

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<v Speaker 1>I work for a pharmaceutic pharmaceutsic company, a you know

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<v Speaker 1>a funny thing. On Monday, we are releasing a drug

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<v Speaker 1>that has been proven secure lung cancer. And here's the

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the profile, the safety profile. And he says

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<v Speaker 1>that to us. Now, I could walk out of there, Zach,

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<v Speaker 1>and I could, I guess, go purchase stock in that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm okay. But if you went back and, as a

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<v Speaker 1>fiduciary and a fund manager at Bulwark, if you started

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<v Speaker 1>to use that inside information, are you at that point

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<v Speaker 1>in trouble or is that casual enough that you're okay?

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<v Speaker 4>What did he so remind me? Did he give me

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<v Speaker 1>Yes? So he said, we're releasing this on Monday. Here's

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<v Speaker 1>the safety profile, some of the testing. Let me show

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<v Speaker 1>you on my phone and say, I'll text you some

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<v Speaker 1>things and you can look at it yourself.

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<v Speaker 3>You you both you and I can't do that?

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<v Speaker 1>Wait I can't in No, nope, nope, just a dude

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<v Speaker 4>I can't yep the second the second that news release

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<v Speaker 4>is out, you can act, but not one second prior

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<v Speaker 4>to that.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait wait wait, wait wait, I thought that applied to you,

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<v Speaker 1>but not just ordinary shoe that I happened to come

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<v Speaker 3>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>If I'm on an airplane and I'm sitting next to

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<v Speaker 1>that guy and he's not good at OPSEC and he's

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<v Speaker 1>working on stuff, and I happen to look over an

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<v Speaker 1>eagle eye and I'm spying, and I realized, oh wow,

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<v Speaker 1>that drug's coming out Monday. They have a press release.

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<v Speaker 1>That safety profile looks solid. If I took that and

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<v Speaker 1>bought it, then I'm just a spy and I'm okay

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<v Speaker 1>because he didn't give it to me. Wait wait, wait, no,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not yep.

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<v Speaker 3>That's because it's no public information.

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<v Speaker 1>That's illegal. Yeah, well they do this, they're told these things.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah yeah, no, no, Look, and we've got all the

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<v Speaker 4>transcripts in the proof. Remember it's the people coming out

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<v Speaker 4>of the Banking Committee meetings in O eight, O nine,

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<v Speaker 4>And within five minutes leaving the Banking Subcommittee meeting, they're

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<v Speaker 4>all selling their financial stocks.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>I've told the story very often, so I'll give the

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<v Speaker 1>short version. I was in DC and Barney Frank, Congressman Frank,

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<v Speaker 1>spin doctors, PR firm heads, journalists, and someone raised their

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<v Speaker 1>hand and Frank called on them and he said, yeah, Congressman,

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<v Speaker 1>you know there was a discussion this morning about Greek

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<v Speaker 1>bonds and committee. Can you tell us where that went?

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<v Speaker 1>Barney Frank, Well, you know, I can't really disclose that information.

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<v Speaker 1>It's part Fauci, part Barney Frank. I can't really, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>disclose that, but I would say this, if I were

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<v Speaker 1>a rich man, I would be buying Greek bonds because

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<v Speaker 1>as of about a half hour ago, Greece is a

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<v Speaker 1>visually too big to fail. So he says this. I

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<v Speaker 1>get up and I'm my friend Trevor had me there,

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<v Speaker 1>and I get to the microphone. I've got my BlackBerry out.

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<v Speaker 1>I go, I'm so sorry. I know this is very

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<v Speaker 1>very rude. I'm so sorry. I apologize typing away. I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>Just one more minute, okay, all right, I just bought

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<v Speaker 1>Greek bonds. Let's hear it for insider Trading and Congressman

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<v Speaker 1>Barney Frank. Here everybody insider trading and Congressman Frank. And

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<v Speaker 1>the room starts to plot and Barney Frank is in

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<v Speaker 1>and he gives me the he hated my guts. I

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<v Speaker 1>confronted him another time because he was triple park because

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<v Speaker 1>he's going into a liquor store and he told me

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<v Speaker 1>f off because they said, hey, Congressman, you're blocking the

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<v Speaker 1>legitimately applauding, let's hear it for insider trading and Congressman Frank.

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<v Speaker 1>And then they're plotting and somebody goes, idiots, he's making

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, well, I was gonna say, if I would have

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<v Speaker 4>got flipped off by Barney Frank, I would have hoped

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<v Speaker 4>somebody would have caught it on film because I'd have

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<v Speaker 4>taken that image and put it on a T shirt

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<v Speaker 4>and warn it with pride. I got flipped off by

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<v Speaker 4>Barney Frank, I would have been I would even proud.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a bad. That's a bad to honor my friend.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I thank you for that. And my friend Trevor

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't a fan of what I did, but they were

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<v Speaker 4>So okay, Zach, so let me let me let me

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<v Speaker 4>throw something, all even all throw something. I'll give you

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<v Speaker 4>a real life scenario exactly what I'm talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, dude, that okay, yet, watch this. I have some

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<v Speaker 1>inside information on bone Frog Coffee. Okay, listen now, listen up.

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<v Speaker 1>So Tim created the Golden Edge bag to you know,

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<v Speaker 1>care for the Trump economy. It's going away. So here's

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<v Speaker 1>the deal. Yeah, I know, it's a limited time. It's

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<v Speaker 1>Golden Age, and it's limited time, and the time is

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<v Speaker 1>corner the market. We could buy a bunch of this

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<v Speaker 1>could probably sell something back to Tim. So it's Bonefrog

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, Alex removed that later from the show because

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted Zach and I to have just the inside.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm calling my trader.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, you're on the phone.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Blue Horseshoe loves bone Frog cotton.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, is it?

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<v Speaker 4>Blue Horseshoe loves Andy cutt of steel, all right, Endicott

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<v Speaker 1>So so take me through what you were gonna say.

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<v Speaker 4>So just to give you an idea of how this

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<v Speaker 4>was during twenty twenty two, when when rates were going

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<v Speaker 4>aggressive short vets against this market. And I said, okay,

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<v Speaker 4>the trades you're making. You could lose everything. He goes, Yep, yep,

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<v Speaker 4>we know. And to be fair, my traders very experienced,

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<v Speaker 4>His dad's account from about two hundred and fifty grand

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<v Speaker 4>up to like one point three million. Okay, wow, we

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<v Speaker 4>got investigated for over a year for that, for that

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<v Speaker 4>over and it got flagged because of the gains, right,

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<v Speaker 4>the outsize gains in one account, not in my personal account,

422
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<v Speaker 4>not in my family's accounts, And it literally was stuff

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<v Speaker 4>that when you looked at the trades themselves, it was

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<v Speaker 4>impossible for us to do anything untoward, Like it was impossible.

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<v Speaker 3>We were trading.

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<v Speaker 4>Volatility on the exchange, so no inside information could be had.

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<v Speaker 4>They I got a year's worth of an investigation just

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<v Speaker 4>on the amount of profit we made in a small account.

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<v Speaker 4>And that's a one point three million dollars account we

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<v Speaker 4>managed between eight nine hundred million. So now am I

431
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<v Speaker 4>saying they shouldn't have looked at that? Now? I mean,

432
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<v Speaker 4>when you see a return like that, I mean, but

433
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<v Speaker 4>what I'm saying is their look looking at that in

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<v Speaker 4>shops that are as relatively as small as ours, And

435
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<v Speaker 4>we're not small, but you know, we're right around a

436
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<v Speaker 4>billion in assets, so we're not We're not a big deal.

437
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<v Speaker 3>By any stretch of the imagination.

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<v Speaker 4>But if that gets that kind of consternation, it kind

439
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<v Speaker 4>of gives you an idea of how egregious what's happening

440
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<v Speaker 4>at DC is.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh. I mean, they sit in conferences looking at the

442
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<v Speaker 1>minute level of detail of these products and these deals

443
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<v Speaker 1>and how many units are going to ship. They're looking

444
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<v Speaker 1>at length of contract because if they're approving these things,

445
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<v Speaker 1>these big international deals, Defense department deals, pharma deals, anything

446
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<v Speaker 1>that's international trade, they're looking down to unicosts. And I

447
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<v Speaker 1>got to imagine there's no way Pelosi's looking at that stuff.

448
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<v Speaker 1>She's getting that information. This looks big. You know, She's

449
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<v Speaker 1>bringing in people to look at this. She's got her chads,

450
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<v Speaker 1>she's got her analysts that are looking at this. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>my gosh. Okay. I knew this was outside because I

452
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<v Speaker 1>remember when I was at Microsoft, I had done some

453
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<v Speaker 1>consulting for a company and I won't I won't mention them,

454
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<v Speaker 1>but they had software for making videos easier to see online.

455
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<v Speaker 1>So it might be something that you can install on

456
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<v Speaker 1>a website, you know, to make it super easy for

457
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<v Speaker 1>video to load. And people who know no Microsoft was

458
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<v Speaker 1>they bought them, and they screwed the company up, but

459
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<v Speaker 1>they bought them. And I had consulted that company, and

460
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<v Speaker 1>I got a waiver from Microsoft that I could still

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<v Speaker 1>be on their advisory board. The second it came out

462
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<v Speaker 1>that they were going to they were going to purchase

463
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<v Speaker 1>that firm, I got a note from legal. You need

464
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<v Speaker 1>to sell your shares. Yep, yep. Wait a minute, Wait

465
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<v Speaker 1>a minute. I don't get to take a ride on. No, No,

466
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<v Speaker 1>you need to sell now. So I'm not even I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not even all I am is advisory board, which is nothing.

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<v Speaker 3>Yep.

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<v Speaker 1>They have a specific Nope, you have to sell. And

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<v Speaker 1>I lost out on a four or five time value

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<v Speaker 1>lift on the right, and Nancy Pelosi and these and these,

472
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<v Speaker 1>these these Republicans who do this, they can have that

473
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<v Speaker 1>minute of detail trade on time magically, and this is

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<v Speaker 1>why they gave themselves a waiver of to insider trading.

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<v Speaker 3>Yep, yep.

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<v Speaker 4>And that's and and you really it's really not the

477
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<v Speaker 4>other thing is it's really not more complex than that either.

478
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<v Speaker 4>The bottom line is they play by completely different rules.

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<v Speaker 3>And if you and I did what they did, we'd

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<v Speaker 3>go to jail.

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<v Speaker 4>We we wouldn't just we we wouldn't just we wouldn't

482
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<v Speaker 4>just get our money taken. We'd forego any profits that

483
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<v Speaker 4>we made, right, and we go to jail.

484
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<v Speaker 3>I go to jail. You might get off me because

485
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<v Speaker 3>you're not a professional.

486
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<v Speaker 4>But that didn't that didn't save uh you met me,

487
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<v Speaker 4>save Martha Stewart. Yeah, well no, no, yeah, screw yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>never mind.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you'd be done. Yeah, you'd yeah, you'd be done.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd be Frog march Man. They roll heavy in my house.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, So it's yeah, it's just it's just corruption, plain

492
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<v Speaker 4>and simple and there.

493
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's it's disgusting, all right.

494
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<v Speaker 1>So we're gonna get into something here in a bit

495
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<v Speaker 1>about a coin, a meme coin, so it's crypto. And

496
00:25:11.960 --> 00:25:15.079
<v Speaker 1>this person introduced this mean coin, even told people to

497
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<v Speaker 1>not buy it, and people bought it, and we need

498
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<v Speaker 1>to talk about this. But before we get to this

499
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<v Speaker 1>is complex and it has to do with the Democrats

500
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<v Speaker 1>want the FED to be absorbed by the Treasury, and

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<v Speaker 1>I want you to weigh in on this in just

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<v Speaker 1>a second here, Zach and Zach and I are going

503
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<v Speaker 1>to be down in Portavarto, Mexico in early June, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to be coming back from a trip to

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<v Speaker 1>Mississippi by the way, because I'm gonna be out there

506
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<v Speaker 1>and I'm gonna come down and we're gonna hang out

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<v Speaker 1>down there. Zach and his wife are getting treatment at

508
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<v Speaker 1>Renew Renew Dot Healthcare. I am this time. I'm gonna

509
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<v Speaker 1>hang out in the hyperback therapy room. I'm gonna take

510
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<v Speaker 1>some of the shipments. I'm not gonna get semsols. I

511
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<v Speaker 1>don't have any need for them right now. But you

512
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<v Speaker 1>and are going to be hanging out down there. If

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<v Speaker 1>you happen to be going down to Renew, go down now,

514
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<v Speaker 1>you know, but that means get your m right to

515
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<v Speaker 1>those guys getting reviewed and Zach and I would love

516
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<v Speaker 1>it if when we got down there, there were a

517
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<v Speaker 1>bunch of people who are in the pipeline now and

518
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<v Speaker 1>we can go out and have dinner and I'll buy

519
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<v Speaker 1>the first dinner, and then when the four hundred people

520
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<v Speaker 1>show up, Zach will buy the second time. So I'll

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<v Speaker 1>take care of the first one. With a couple of folks.

522
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<v Speaker 3>There you go.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna be down there together Renew and I've been

524
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<v Speaker 1>taking inventory. We're putting together a list of conditions we've helped. Okay,

525
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<v Speaker 1>so hemispherical paralyzation person was told you're going to spend

526
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<v Speaker 1>your life in a wheelchair. That turned out not to

527
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<v Speaker 1>be true. The arthritis you have in your hands is

528
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<v Speaker 1>an incurable type. It's just going to get worse, so

529
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<v Speaker 1>we can mitigate the pain, but not the function. Not true.

530
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<v Speaker 1>That shoulder is going to have to have surgery. You'll

531
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<v Speaker 1>never get mobility back without surgery. Not true. We had

532
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<v Speaker 1>the you cannot slow down this muscle wasting disease. Not true.

533
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<v Speaker 1>So why isn't this allowed up here?

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<v Speaker 3>Well?

535
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<v Speaker 1>Corruption, there's a medical system that doesn't want this. There's

536
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<v Speaker 1>really legitimately good doctors who do not understand when they

537
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<v Speaker 1>give you your own stem cells that that doesn't really

538
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<v Speaker 1>do much for you. They'd't understand that the process of

539
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<v Speaker 1>rejecting eighty percent of the umbilical cords, they get eighty

540
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<v Speaker 1>percent of them means they ogly work with the most quality.

541
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<v Speaker 1>Then they multiply them, they culture them so they get

542
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<v Speaker 1>more quality cells in your body immediately. The combination of

543
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<v Speaker 1>that and the h BOT therapies, the NAD therapies, the

544
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<v Speaker 1>Meyers drip that their next door to or world class hospital.

545
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<v Speaker 1>Oh and not to mention, they've saved three people's lives

546
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<v Speaker 1>who went there for stem cells and ended up getting

547
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<v Speaker 1>heart surgery that next day because they were going to die.

548
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<v Speaker 1>So it's renewed dot healthcare. E you e dot healthcare

549
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<v Speaker 1>if you can get down there in early June again,

550
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<v Speaker 1>and I mean it, I'll buy the first dinner. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure you know. I don't mean to speak for you,

552
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<v Speaker 1>but I know you to be a good and generous man.

553
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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure you would buy the second dinner, and I

554
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<v Speaker 1>would love to. I'm sure that you would thank you

555
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<v Speaker 1>for that. It's renewed or and you e dot Healthcare.

556
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<v Speaker 1>Here's something that apparently the FED wants to do. They

557
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<v Speaker 1>the Democrats actually want the Fed to be absorbed by

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<v Speaker 1>the treasury.

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<v Speaker 6>The progressive you know, want to absorb the fat into

560
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<v Speaker 6>the treasury.

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<v Speaker 1>Right it again? You think the truth? Yeah, because they

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<v Speaker 1>want to they.

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<v Speaker 6>Want a central bank digital currency soak everything up from

564
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<v Speaker 6>the banks, which they don't like. Then the central bank

565
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<v Speaker 6>will have all the money and they'll, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>Find who to lend it to.

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<v Speaker 6>And there there are various levels of these plans, but

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<v Speaker 6>that's an idea of been floating out there for a

569
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<v Speaker 6>long time, and central bank digital currencies in some form

570
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<v Speaker 6>maybe stable coins, are coming. If we had stable coins

571
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<v Speaker 6>that are treasury back, it does the same things.

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<v Speaker 1>Ken Rogoff, who is an economist, he was on CNBC.

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<v Speaker 1>So the FED, which is not a government agency, it's

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<v Speaker 1>an independent agency. It's a country unto itself that conjures

575
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<v Speaker 1>debt and then calls it money and then gives it

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<v Speaker 1>to the Treasury, would be absorbed by an actual government body,

577
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<v Speaker 1>which is the Treasury, and we would then have a

578
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<v Speaker 1>central bank digital currency, which we already do. You wire

579
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<v Speaker 1>money that's digital currency, is not a central bank digital currency.

580
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<v Speaker 1>You wire money, ach transfer that's digital, venmo that's digital.

581
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<v Speaker 1>So how on earth can a government agency absorb a

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<v Speaker 1>non government agency and then still pretend the FED is independent?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh they can't.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, in the minute that happens, any illusion of

585
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<v Speaker 4>or I shouldn't say illusion, but any thoughts surrounding FED

586
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<v Speaker 4>independence are immediately vaporized.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, that's yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>And the other thing too, is that there's really no

589
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<v Speaker 4>need to do that. I think it is a horrific

590
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<v Speaker 4>idea on so many different levels.

591
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<v Speaker 3>But the only.

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<v Speaker 4>Reason and I haven't looked into that. That's the first

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<v Speaker 4>time I've heard that quote.

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<v Speaker 3>I haven't.

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<v Speaker 4>I haven't looked into this, but the only reason I

596
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<v Speaker 4>can come up with why progressives would support that is

597
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<v Speaker 4>purely for the ability to have more control.

598
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<v Speaker 3>There's no other reason.

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<v Speaker 4>And the just like I said with Trump, where I

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<v Speaker 4>was like, look, Powell may may or may not be

601
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<v Speaker 4>a good actor, whatever the case may be. But having

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<v Speaker 4>the president, having the president having the ability to conduct

603
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<v Speaker 4>monetary policy is a horrible idea, regardless of what president is.

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<v Speaker 4>For instance, when when a president is up for reelection,

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<v Speaker 4>what do you think the likelihood that he'd cut interest rates.

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<v Speaker 3>Six months before.

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<v Speaker 1>It approaches.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, so uh, you would just completely politicize it.

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<v Speaker 4>And more importantly, I think it's just a it's just

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<v Speaker 4>another step to, you know, just building up this Potempkin

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<v Speaker 4>village even larger.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's a horrible idea. It shocked.

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<v Speaker 4>It doesn't shock me to hear a guy like rogue

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<v Speaker 4>Off pitching that. But no, I think it's a horrific idea.

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<v Speaker 4>I think that if you did that, the dollar probably

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<v Speaker 4>get instantly hit for I would think ten to fifteen percent.

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<v Speaker 4>I think our treasuries would sell off. I don't think

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<v Speaker 4>it'd be a good thing at all. I think it's

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<v Speaker 4>a horrible idea.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and anytime you're further centralizing government and taking a

621
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<v Speaker 1>scam institution, sorry, the FED, I just it drives me crazy,

622
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<v Speaker 1>and then rolling it into another scam institution that has

623
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<v Speaker 1>never answered for illegally buying corporate bonds at seventy seven

624
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<v Speaker 1>point two billion dollars seven and twenty billion dollars like that.

625
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know me, I am no fan of the FED.

626
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<v Speaker 1>Yeh.

627
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<v Speaker 4>At the same time, you do need a central bank.

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<v Speaker 4>You need a central bank, you need a lender of

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<v Speaker 4>last resort, and you need that. You need that lender

630
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<v Speaker 4>of last resort to be politically insulated.

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<v Speaker 3>They need to be outside the political system. And I

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<v Speaker 3>am not I'm not saying there.

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<v Speaker 4>Aren't serious changes that I would want to make it

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<v Speaker 4>the FED right like that, I think there's but anybody

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<v Speaker 4>arguing whether they want to give the president the right

636
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<v Speaker 4>to conduct monetary policy, whether they want the Treasury to

637
00:32:20.359 --> 00:32:22.960
<v Speaker 4>soak up the FED, all of it is effectively the

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00:32:23.000 --> 00:32:26.000
<v Speaker 4>same thing. It doesn't really matter, right if the Treasury

639
00:32:26.039 --> 00:32:30.880
<v Speaker 4>soaks up the FED, the president now has monetary policy power, period,

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<v Speaker 4>And all.

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<v Speaker 1>About the FED is it would be really nice if

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<v Speaker 1>the lender of last resort was the lender of last

643
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<v Speaker 1>resorts because not right first and pretty first, right, well,

644
00:32:41.920 --> 00:32:44.160
<v Speaker 1>we know what the Fed's going to do something, all right,

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00:32:44.400 --> 00:32:47.640
<v Speaker 1>This is a bizarre story, and it is about a

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00:32:48.160 --> 00:32:51.400
<v Speaker 1>well known Twitter accounts. I remember when this account started.

647
00:32:51.400 --> 00:32:53.200
<v Speaker 1>They're so good at this. They've grown so well. They

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00:32:53.240 --> 00:32:55.200
<v Speaker 1>understand the algo and they do the things to grow

649
00:32:55.200 --> 00:32:58.039
<v Speaker 1>on social media. And maybe I'm not shadow and maybe

650
00:32:58.079 --> 00:32:59.559
<v Speaker 1>I just suck at social media, although I know I'm

651
00:32:59.599 --> 00:33:01.119
<v Speaker 1>shadow of and I just I know that because I

652
00:33:01.160 --> 00:33:04.000
<v Speaker 1>watched them do it and decrease my likes and retweets

653
00:33:04.000 --> 00:33:05.559
<v Speaker 1>and all that. So I'll tell you about this in

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<v Speaker 1>a second, just after I remind you that tonight, when

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00:33:09.000 --> 00:33:15.519
<v Speaker 1>you shower, you're probably a life hating communist. Sorry, I mean,

656
00:33:15.559 --> 00:33:19.319
<v Speaker 1>if you're using non Allen soap. I mean, I still

657
00:33:19.359 --> 00:33:23.200
<v Speaker 1>love you, but you are a life hating communist because

658
00:33:23.240 --> 00:33:25.079
<v Speaker 1>when you're washing your body with that soap, you're not

659
00:33:25.200 --> 00:33:29.240
<v Speaker 1>washing it with Alan's. And look, I tell Alan, I mean,

660
00:33:29.240 --> 00:33:31.960
<v Speaker 1>he's nonverbal, he's fourteen, he's been through these eighteen operations,

661
00:33:32.000 --> 00:33:34.480
<v Speaker 1>so he can't say what he feels about you. But

662
00:33:34.519 --> 00:33:37.440
<v Speaker 1>he's super sick. Because I got your names. It's in

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00:33:37.480 --> 00:33:40.039
<v Speaker 1>the database. So like I told him tonight, Hey, you

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00:33:40.119 --> 00:33:46.039
<v Speaker 1>know what, Betty Thomas from Idaho Falls, Idaho. She's been

665
00:33:46.119 --> 00:33:47.359
<v Speaker 1>big fan of the show for a long time, but

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00:33:47.359 --> 00:33:51.039
<v Speaker 1>she's never purchased your soap. And Alan put his head

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00:33:51.039 --> 00:33:54.960
<v Speaker 1>down and cried a little bit. So I mean, make

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00:33:55.000 --> 00:33:58.920
<v Speaker 1>your choice. It's made with all natural materials, absolutely no

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00:33:59.039 --> 00:34:02.119
<v Speaker 1>chemicals made by I have three generations to soapbaging expertise

670
00:34:02.480 --> 00:34:06.319
<v Speaker 1>and truly without without joking. Alan is nonverbal through autism.

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<v Speaker 1>He has been three eighteen operations. No, he is not

672
00:34:09.079 --> 00:34:11.199
<v Speaker 1>going to be anger if you don't buy a soap.

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00:34:11.480 --> 00:34:13.639
<v Speaker 1>But our mission is to employ Allan and we do.

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00:34:13.800 --> 00:34:16.679
<v Speaker 1>And Ian also affected by autism, and we do, and

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00:34:16.880 --> 00:34:20.119
<v Speaker 1>Amy and we do. And that's the mission. It's Alan

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00:34:20.159 --> 00:34:22.599
<v Speaker 1>Soaps dot Com slash Todd. He's probably tid to get

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00:34:22.639 --> 00:34:24.519
<v Speaker 1>tempera sent off all their products. It's not just soap,

678
00:34:24.559 --> 00:34:27.400
<v Speaker 1>by the way, there are some of the most soft

679
00:34:27.400 --> 00:34:30.000
<v Speaker 1>the softest wash costs I've ever had there, and soap

680
00:34:30.079 --> 00:34:33.360
<v Speaker 1>racks as well. It's Alan Soaps dot Com slash Todd

681
00:34:33.519 --> 00:34:36.000
<v Speaker 1>and get Temper sent off everything there. This is a

682
00:34:36.039 --> 00:34:38.639
<v Speaker 1>bizarre story and it's good that we have Zach Abraham,

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00:34:38.719 --> 00:34:40.920
<v Speaker 1>Chief and vestment officer Bulwart Capital Management with us to

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00:34:40.920 --> 00:34:43.760
<v Speaker 1>help us figure this out. I'll read through this real quick, Zach,

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00:34:43.880 --> 00:34:45.639
<v Speaker 1>and then I want to get your input on this.

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00:34:45.639 --> 00:34:49.320
<v Speaker 1>This comes from a Muse. It's a great account on Twitter,

687
00:34:49.880 --> 00:34:51.920
<v Speaker 1>and amuse rites this and I'm saying amuse because they

688
00:34:51.960 --> 00:34:54.559
<v Speaker 1>don't know if it's a man or woman. On May three,

689
00:34:54.760 --> 00:34:57.239
<v Speaker 1>at approximate eight thirty am, I launched a coin, not

690
00:34:57.320 --> 00:34:59.960
<v Speaker 1>a metaphorical coin, not a metaphor about value or tru

691
00:35:00.039 --> 00:35:02.760
<v Speaker 1>uster social capital, a literal mean coin called a muse

692
00:35:02.840 --> 00:35:06.559
<v Speaker 1>on x based on my ex formerly Twitter handle. I

693
00:35:06.599 --> 00:35:08.360
<v Speaker 1>did not encourage anyone to buy it. In fact, I

694
00:35:08.360 --> 00:35:11.239
<v Speaker 1>told them explicitly not to. Less than two hours later,

695
00:35:11.280 --> 00:35:14.480
<v Speaker 1>it was worth three point five million dollars. This was

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00:35:14.559 --> 00:35:17.320
<v Speaker 1>not the result of cunning design or market manipulation. I

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00:35:17.360 --> 00:35:19.480
<v Speaker 1>never bought or sold a mean coin before. I was

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00:35:19.480 --> 00:35:21.599
<v Speaker 1>not trying to ride a wave, launch a brand, or

699
00:35:21.639 --> 00:35:24.440
<v Speaker 1>seated cult. I was researching for a book about the

700
00:35:24.480 --> 00:35:27.039
<v Speaker 1>people behind the mean coin phenomena, a book that began

701
00:35:27.119 --> 00:35:30.559
<v Speaker 1>appropriately enough in another strange room on February fourteenth, twenty

702
00:35:30.599 --> 00:35:33.000
<v Speaker 1>twenty five. That day was invited to deserve the launch

703
00:35:33.000 --> 00:35:36.320
<v Speaker 1>of a coin tied to Argentine President Javier Malay, a

704
00:35:36.360 --> 00:35:39.800
<v Speaker 1>monetary radical term mean coin messiah, whose likeness has become

705
00:35:39.880 --> 00:35:43.960
<v Speaker 1>shorthand for rebellion and decentralization and digital markets. Pump fund

706
00:35:44.000 --> 00:35:47.119
<v Speaker 1>the platform I use as a disciptively simple name. It

707
00:35:47.159 --> 00:35:49.679
<v Speaker 1>sounds like a toy, a game, a dare. In reality,

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00:35:49.679 --> 00:35:52.760
<v Speaker 1>it's become a favorite launch pad for mean coins, especially

709
00:35:52.760 --> 00:35:55.760
<v Speaker 1>those tethered to personalities, pop culture and political figures. What

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00:35:55.880 --> 00:35:58.559
<v Speaker 1>distinguishes pump fun is its structure. Every token has a

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00:35:58.599 --> 00:36:01.719
<v Speaker 1>fixed apply to one billion, immutable and automatic. When a

712
00:36:01.719 --> 00:36:04.360
<v Speaker 1>creditor launches a token, eight hundred million coins are allocated

713
00:36:04.400 --> 00:36:07.639
<v Speaker 1>to a bonding curve. Mathematical pricing FORMUA then increases the

714
00:36:07.639 --> 00:36:10.360
<v Speaker 1>cost of each coin is more purchased. As a coin

715
00:36:10.480 --> 00:36:13.159
<v Speaker 1>hits sixty nine thousand dollars market cap, pump fund mints

716
00:36:13.199 --> 00:36:15.760
<v Speaker 1>the remaining two hundred million impairs them with roughly twelve

717
00:36:15.760 --> 00:36:19.880
<v Speaker 1>thousand of sol Solona's native token to establish a liquidity

718
00:36:19.880 --> 00:36:24.039
<v Speaker 1>pool on the decentralized exchange Radium. Since February, I've interviewed

719
00:36:24.079 --> 00:36:27.159
<v Speaker 1>dozens of people behind the biggest coin launches, from entertainers

720
00:36:27.440 --> 00:36:31.079
<v Speaker 1>to synonymous whales to marketing teams running Meme labs twenty

721
00:36:31.079 --> 00:36:34.159
<v Speaker 1>four to seven. The money is staggering. Mean coins generated

722
00:36:34.199 --> 00:36:36.599
<v Speaker 1>over one hundred billion in volume last year. A loan

723
00:36:36.960 --> 00:36:40.280
<v Speaker 1>on solon or trading fees from mean coins exceed three billion,

724
00:36:40.719 --> 00:36:43.239
<v Speaker 1>with one single trader spending one hundred and thirty million

725
00:36:43.280 --> 00:36:46.920
<v Speaker 1>on fees. That's just one chain. The market is dominated

726
00:36:46.960 --> 00:36:50.199
<v Speaker 1>by whales and bots. Roughly ten percent of participants extract

727
00:36:50.280 --> 00:36:53.400
<v Speaker 1>ninety percent of the profits. The remaining ninety percent chase

728
00:36:53.400 --> 00:36:57.960
<v Speaker 1>ephemeral highs, often exiting with losses. Many use complex tools

729
00:36:57.960 --> 00:37:01.679
<v Speaker 1>to identify trending launches, enter early and exit minutes later.

730
00:37:01.920 --> 00:37:05.280
<v Speaker 1>My telegram inbox was filled with offers from services promising

731
00:37:05.320 --> 00:37:08.719
<v Speaker 1>to amplify my coins visibility using these mechanisms. I decline

732
00:37:08.719 --> 00:37:12.519
<v Speaker 1>them all. As you're listening to that and aware of this,

733
00:37:13.519 --> 00:37:17.360
<v Speaker 1>I hear to me our fiat currency, which no one

734
00:37:17.480 --> 00:37:21.559
<v Speaker 1>in crypto likes, amplified by ten billion to the ten

735
00:37:21.639 --> 00:37:25.039
<v Speaker 1>billionth power, and somehow they like this, this is value,

736
00:37:25.239 --> 00:37:28.119
<v Speaker 1>But our fiat currency is not. Am I under or

737
00:37:28.159 --> 00:37:29.360
<v Speaker 1>overstating that at all?

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<v Speaker 3>No, you're not overstating it at all.

739
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<v Speaker 4>And it really is a fascinating time in human history

740
00:37:38.480 --> 00:37:42.519
<v Speaker 4>and financial history, because we've had bubbles before. We've had

741
00:37:42.519 --> 00:37:45.000
<v Speaker 4>plenty of them, right, And you can go back as

742
00:37:45.039 --> 00:37:48.039
<v Speaker 4>far as what is it was it the was it

743
00:37:48.079 --> 00:37:51.400
<v Speaker 4>the south Sea Cut Corporation or whatever that Newton famously

744
00:37:51.440 --> 00:37:54.000
<v Speaker 4>lost a bunch of money on. Yeah, Sir Isaac Newton, Yeah,

745
00:37:55.880 --> 00:37:57.880
<v Speaker 4>you've had pump and dumb scheme, You've had all this.

746
00:37:58.639 --> 00:38:01.920
<v Speaker 4>Never before in humanity history, though, have you seen as

747
00:38:02.000 --> 00:38:09.440
<v Speaker 4>much engagement and an involvement and excited excitement regarding something

748
00:38:09.519 --> 00:38:13.079
<v Speaker 4>that the vast majority of those players know are complete

749
00:38:13.239 --> 00:38:17.440
<v Speaker 4>is complete nonsense, right, Like, so most of the people operating,

750
00:38:17.519 --> 00:38:20.119
<v Speaker 4>like they said the whales, the whales know that these

751
00:38:20.119 --> 00:38:24.599
<v Speaker 4>are completely useless, that they're completely nonsensical. This is a

752
00:38:24.639 --> 00:38:29.280
<v Speaker 4>pump and dump massive value any of these coins.

753
00:38:29.639 --> 00:38:33.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so let me ask you. I saw groc learning

754
00:38:33.960 --> 00:38:36.519
<v Speaker 1>ads on Twitter about the grock coin. So this is

755
00:38:36.519 --> 00:38:38.239
<v Speaker 1>the first time I've ever felt tempted to buy coin

756
00:38:38.280 --> 00:38:40.159
<v Speaker 1>because you know, it reminded me of when I saw bitcoin.

757
00:38:40.519 --> 00:38:42.800
<v Speaker 1>And I've told this story. When I learned about bitcoin,

758
00:38:42.960 --> 00:38:44.280
<v Speaker 1>I went to my wife and said, I want to

759
00:38:44.280 --> 00:38:46.320
<v Speaker 1>put thirty forty thousand dollars into this bitcoin. She's like,

760
00:38:46.320 --> 00:38:50.079
<v Speaker 1>you're insane and I should have pushed back and said probably,

761
00:38:50.119 --> 00:38:53.440
<v Speaker 1>but I'm still doing it and thirty forty, you know,

762
00:38:53.599 --> 00:38:56.159
<v Speaker 1>fifty maybe At that point, I was printing money out

763
00:38:56.199 --> 00:38:59.920
<v Speaker 1>of my buzzpo website before Amazon destroyed it with their

764
00:39:00.320 --> 00:39:03.679
<v Speaker 1>their ads that attack on our ads, et cetera. So

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00:39:03.840 --> 00:39:06.679
<v Speaker 1>I could have afforded, frankly, to put twenty five thirty

766
00:39:06.760 --> 00:39:08.360
<v Speaker 1>forty fifty thousand dollars a month into that for a

767
00:39:08.400 --> 00:39:10.840
<v Speaker 1>little while, and I'd be a billionaire if I'd done that.

768
00:39:11.440 --> 00:39:13.920
<v Speaker 1>So I'm not saying that I think their grock coin

769
00:39:13.960 --> 00:39:17.079
<v Speaker 1>has any value. I know that he's mobbed up. I

770
00:39:17.119 --> 00:39:19.079
<v Speaker 1>know that he knows President Trump really well. I know

771
00:39:19.119 --> 00:39:21.280
<v Speaker 1>Trump wants to be a crypto king. I know how

772
00:39:21.360 --> 00:39:24.679
<v Speaker 1>DC works. I get a sense that his coin might

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00:39:24.719 --> 00:39:26.519
<v Speaker 1>be one of those coins. It ends up being a

774
00:39:26.599 --> 00:39:29.159
<v Speaker 1>quote stable coin, so I went in to go try

775
00:39:29.199 --> 00:39:30.920
<v Speaker 1>to buy it, and I had to buy a coin

776
00:39:30.960 --> 00:39:33.239
<v Speaker 1>to get his coin, so I had to I couldn't

777
00:39:33.239 --> 00:39:34.320
<v Speaker 1>buy it with US dollars.

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00:39:35.400 --> 00:39:37.239
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, he had to convert to a

779
00:39:37.280 --> 00:39:38.039
<v Speaker 3>stable coin.

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00:39:38.079 --> 00:39:40.000
<v Speaker 1>So I had to go to a coin to buy

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00:39:40.039 --> 00:39:44.400
<v Speaker 1>his coin. Right, Okay, I read that a couple different ways.

782
00:39:44.440 --> 00:39:46.920
<v Speaker 1>If I didn't do it, because I don't know enough

783
00:39:46.920 --> 00:39:49.159
<v Speaker 1>about those coins to do it. I was making a bet,

784
00:39:49.360 --> 00:39:51.760
<v Speaker 1>pure and simple, plain and simple, making a bet that

785
00:39:51.840 --> 00:39:54.719
<v Speaker 1>this is going to be a big coin. But Elon,

786
00:39:54.960 --> 00:39:56.960
<v Speaker 1>it seems so smart that you have to buy a

787
00:39:57.000 --> 00:39:59.800
<v Speaker 1>coin and then sell it and then if all these

788
00:39:59.800 --> 00:40:02.159
<v Speaker 1>are the coin's going into the grock coin, it seems

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<v Speaker 1>to me he's driving up the value of grock coin

790
00:40:04.400 --> 00:40:06.360
<v Speaker 1>and driving down the value of other coins. Am I wrong?

791
00:40:06.960 --> 00:40:08.840
<v Speaker 4>What platform were you on when you were doing that?

792
00:40:09.199 --> 00:40:10.480
<v Speaker 4>Because you had to go on a trading.

793
00:40:10.280 --> 00:40:12.480
<v Speaker 1>Platform, So I never got to the trade. I got

794
00:40:12.480 --> 00:40:15.159
<v Speaker 1>to the grock coin website and then it was telling

795
00:40:15.199 --> 00:40:18.039
<v Speaker 1>me you need to go select a coin to do this,

796
00:40:18.119 --> 00:40:19.679
<v Speaker 1>and that's where I stopped because I'm like, wait, I'm

797
00:40:19.719 --> 00:40:22.880
<v Speaker 1>not sophisticated enough to know which coin to select. But

798
00:40:22.960 --> 00:40:24.519
<v Speaker 1>it seemed like a smart move.

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<v Speaker 4>So so here here's the way generally speaking, that works.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, okay, So think of a platform.

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<v Speaker 4>You know people like everybody goes Schwab, Right, Schwab is

802
00:40:35.440 --> 00:40:37.039
<v Speaker 4>a trading platform for investments.

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00:40:37.079 --> 00:40:39.400
<v Speaker 3>Okay, Take a company like coinbase.

804
00:40:39.480 --> 00:40:45.880
<v Speaker 4>Coinbase is effectively a Schwab for cryptocurrency. Okay, Now this

805
00:40:45.920 --> 00:40:48.639
<v Speaker 4>work gets a little bit different. The easiest way to

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00:40:48.719 --> 00:40:52.960
<v Speaker 4>understand what they're doing there is they're saying, okay, come

807
00:40:53.000 --> 00:40:55.920
<v Speaker 4>here and make an account, and then we're going to

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<v Speaker 4>convert your dollars into what we call our native coin, right,

809
00:40:59.760 --> 00:41:03.440
<v Speaker 4>and what the native coin is effectively are poker.

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00:41:03.199 --> 00:41:04.079
<v Speaker 3>Chips in the casino.

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<v Speaker 1>That's hot side.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes.

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<v Speaker 4>So so it's like everybody converts to their stable coin

814
00:41:10.079 --> 00:41:12.719
<v Speaker 4>or their native coin of choice, whatever platform you're on

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<v Speaker 4>is going to have a different native coin, and you

816
00:41:15.239 --> 00:41:17.679
<v Speaker 4>convert to the native coins, and then the native coins

817
00:41:17.719 --> 00:41:20.679
<v Speaker 4>are what you use. And the native coins are supposed

818
00:41:20.679 --> 00:41:24.880
<v Speaker 4>to maintain a level value, right They're supposed to. Yeah,

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00:41:24.880 --> 00:41:25.599
<v Speaker 4>they're supposed to.

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00:41:26.159 --> 00:41:27.559
<v Speaker 3>So that it.

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<v Speaker 4>And this is one of the issues with the like

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<v Speaker 4>why can't you just get on that platform and exchange

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<v Speaker 4>in dollars.

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<v Speaker 3>This is one of the problems with that industry is.

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<v Speaker 4>That then effectively, and not every not every exchange does this,

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00:41:48.400 --> 00:41:51.159
<v Speaker 4>but but we've seen this involved in some of these frauds,

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<v Speaker 4>which is those quote unquote native coins they have a

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00:41:55.440 --> 00:41:59.599
<v Speaker 4>value on that platform, right, yes, well they can also

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<v Speaker 4>they can also you know, mess with or or you know,

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<v Speaker 4>manipulate the creation of those native coins. So I'm not

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<v Speaker 4>saying they all do this, they don't all do this,

832
00:42:11.559 --> 00:42:15.000
<v Speaker 4>but well, look, when I look at the whole cryptocurrency deal,

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<v Speaker 4>the best analogy I can give, and a lot of

834
00:42:17.679 --> 00:42:20.920
<v Speaker 4>people won't know this reference, but it just it reminds

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00:42:21.000 --> 00:42:23.239
<v Speaker 4>me so much of the junior mining industry in the

836
00:42:23.239 --> 00:42:27.639
<v Speaker 4>early eighties in Canada, meaning the pump and dumps everywhere.

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<v Speaker 4>There's so many similarities between that and the whole meme

838
00:42:31.719 --> 00:42:35.559
<v Speaker 4>coin phenomenon going on right now, and it's just rife

839
00:42:35.559 --> 00:42:37.800
<v Speaker 4>with fraud. And that's why I just tell people like, oh, look,

840
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<v Speaker 4>if you want to play in that, if you want

841
00:42:40.119 --> 00:42:41.800
<v Speaker 4>to play in that arena, and we're not doing it

842
00:42:41.800 --> 00:42:44.079
<v Speaker 4>for you, but if you want to play in that arena. Now,

843
00:42:44.159 --> 00:42:48.239
<v Speaker 4>we've we've had incredible success trading bitcoin, and we don't

844
00:42:48.239 --> 00:42:50.880
<v Speaker 4>always own it, but our clients have owned as much,

845
00:42:51.280 --> 00:42:53.360
<v Speaker 4>as you know, one and a half to two percent

846
00:42:53.400 --> 00:42:55.960
<v Speaker 4>of their portfolio at the most in bitcoin at times,

847
00:42:56.480 --> 00:42:58.440
<v Speaker 4>and we'll play with it, but we're always going to

848
00:42:58.559 --> 00:43:00.480
<v Speaker 4>keep those things very small because at the end of

849
00:43:00.519 --> 00:43:03.400
<v Speaker 4>the day, you may think bitcoin's going to a million,

850
00:43:03.400 --> 00:43:06.239
<v Speaker 4>there's a lot of people saying that what is the underlying.

851
00:43:05.760 --> 00:43:06.360
<v Speaker 3>Value of it?

852
00:43:07.440 --> 00:43:08.280
<v Speaker 1>Nothing zero.

853
00:43:08.760 --> 00:43:11.880
<v Speaker 4>It's yeah, there is no intrinsic value. It has no

854
00:43:11.960 --> 00:43:15.039
<v Speaker 4>cash flows, it has no assets, it has nothing. It

855
00:43:15.440 --> 00:43:18.519
<v Speaker 4>truly is a reflection of what the it's It is

856
00:43:18.559 --> 00:43:21.039
<v Speaker 4>an experiment of the greater fool. And I'm not saying

857
00:43:21.039 --> 00:43:22.880
<v Speaker 4>that you're a fool if you own bitcoin. But the

858
00:43:22.920 --> 00:43:27.280
<v Speaker 4>greater fool theory is stocks go up in price because people,

859
00:43:27.400 --> 00:43:31.639
<v Speaker 4>not because earnings drive them higher. They typically correlate, but

860
00:43:31.719 --> 00:43:33.920
<v Speaker 4>stocks go up in price because people are willing to

861
00:43:33.960 --> 00:43:37.239
<v Speaker 4>pay a higher price for the stock period, end of story, right.

862
00:43:37.760 --> 00:43:38.119
<v Speaker 3>And so.

863
00:43:39.719 --> 00:43:43.320
<v Speaker 4>That that's the dynamic you've got going on in crypto.

864
00:43:43.639 --> 00:43:46.960
<v Speaker 4>That it's that greater fool theory, meaning what you're relying

865
00:43:47.079 --> 00:43:49.519
<v Speaker 4>on is somebody to come along that is willing to

866
00:43:49.519 --> 00:43:53.960
<v Speaker 4>pay a higher price than you. But it's completely subjective.

867
00:43:54.000 --> 00:43:56.800
<v Speaker 1>And I'm looking at the thing with grock Coin saying

868
00:43:57.000 --> 00:44:02.199
<v Speaker 1>I'll bet on that casino. Yeah, sure, of course this

869
00:44:02.239 --> 00:44:04.880
<v Speaker 1>is going to get big. It's Elon Musk. Of course,

870
00:44:04.920 --> 00:44:06.239
<v Speaker 1>there are people going to rush into it. They're going

871
00:44:06.280 --> 00:44:09.280
<v Speaker 1>to rush into it for ideological reasons. The left is

872
00:44:09.280 --> 00:44:12.519
<v Speaker 1>going to attack it for ideological reasons. President Trump would

873
00:44:12.519 --> 00:44:16.119
<v Speaker 1>probably be likely to put, as I said, the grock

874
00:44:16.119 --> 00:44:19.159
<v Speaker 1>coin into some you know, government mix because Trump wanted

875
00:44:19.159 --> 00:44:21.000
<v Speaker 1>to go buy a bunch of coins. Now, is that corrupt? Yeah,

876
00:44:21.079 --> 00:44:23.840
<v Speaker 1>it's corrupt. So but I'm mininged to bet on that.

877
00:44:23.840 --> 00:44:25.480
<v Speaker 1>But I'm not willing to go bet on a coin.

878
00:44:25.559 --> 00:44:28.880
<v Speaker 1>Now I have to go research stable coins. But none

879
00:44:28.880 --> 00:44:30.760
<v Speaker 1>of them are stable because none of them have any

880
00:44:30.760 --> 00:44:33.639
<v Speaker 1>intrinsic value. There's no armies, there's no you know, in

881
00:44:33.639 --> 00:44:35.039
<v Speaker 1>the United States, what do we have. We have our

882
00:44:35.119 --> 00:44:37.400
<v Speaker 1>land mass, we have our armies, we have our weapons,

883
00:44:37.480 --> 00:44:41.320
<v Speaker 1>we have the natural resources in our soil. We've got

884
00:44:41.440 --> 00:44:43.519
<v Speaker 1>the labor of the people. I mean, there's a lot

885
00:44:43.559 --> 00:44:46.719
<v Speaker 1>here that backs our dollar, which came off the gold standard,

886
00:44:46.719 --> 00:44:50.199
<v Speaker 1>which I rate as a mistake. But there is intrinsic

887
00:44:50.320 --> 00:44:52.639
<v Speaker 1>value in the United States. This is very much like this.

888
00:44:52.639 --> 00:44:56.880
<v Speaker 1>This is very much like this. I'm picturing a fifty

889
00:44:57.000 --> 00:45:02.840
<v Speaker 1>year old dude and he gets his way into let's

890
00:45:02.840 --> 00:45:06.199
<v Speaker 1>say he wants to work in Goldman Sacks, and he

891
00:45:06.199 --> 00:45:09.039
<v Speaker 1>gets into Goldman Sacks and he's in an interview and

892
00:45:09.079 --> 00:45:10.840
<v Speaker 1>the hiring mantresses, So why do you think of goldmun

893
00:45:10.880 --> 00:45:15.639
<v Speaker 1>sacks material? Ah, And I was the most popular kid

894
00:45:15.679 --> 00:45:19.840
<v Speaker 1>in high school, and I was jacked. I can show

895
00:45:19.840 --> 00:45:23.880
<v Speaker 1>you pictures I had abs and you know my body counts.

896
00:45:24.320 --> 00:45:28.760
<v Speaker 1>I'll say something. I hit that high school thing so hard.

897
00:45:31.880 --> 00:45:36.400
<v Speaker 1>So what is the worth of your popularity now? No,

898
00:45:36.480 --> 00:45:39.440
<v Speaker 1>but you don't get it. I mean it's like if

899
00:45:40.039 --> 00:45:42.239
<v Speaker 1>if you held a party and I wasn't invited, people

900
00:45:42.239 --> 00:45:48.119
<v Speaker 1>didn't come right. So behind you is the door and

901
00:45:48.320 --> 00:45:50.360
<v Speaker 1>don't let it hit you in the way out. That's

902
00:45:50.400 --> 00:45:52.880
<v Speaker 1>what I'm looking at with these stable coins. They're not

903
00:45:53.039 --> 00:45:57.079
<v Speaker 1>stable and Elon Muskus he wants me to purchase those

904
00:45:57.159 --> 00:46:02.760
<v Speaker 1>coins for to get a chance at his coin.

905
00:46:03.800 --> 00:46:06.119
<v Speaker 4>Well, and that so if you want, if you were

906
00:46:06.159 --> 00:46:09.079
<v Speaker 4>going to do that, you can do like you can

907
00:46:09.119 --> 00:46:10.960
<v Speaker 4>do it. But what I would tell people is just

908
00:46:11.039 --> 00:46:13.760
<v Speaker 4>don't hold that native coin or that stable coin for

909
00:46:13.800 --> 00:46:17.079
<v Speaker 4>any period of time. Convert and purchase the coin you

910
00:46:17.119 --> 00:46:18.920
<v Speaker 4>want immediately, Okay.

911
00:46:19.000 --> 00:46:22.000
<v Speaker 1>And that seems like a little work forgive me for what?

912
00:46:23.559 --> 00:46:27.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah? Well yeah, and and and the work for what?

913
00:46:27.800 --> 00:46:27.960
<v Speaker 2>Right?

914
00:46:28.000 --> 00:46:30.159
<v Speaker 3>What is the value of what it is that you bought.

915
00:46:30.280 --> 00:46:32.920
<v Speaker 1>I just want to bet on Elon Musk Yeah, well

916
00:46:32.920 --> 00:46:34.800
<v Speaker 1>I just want to drop I just want to drop

917
00:46:34.840 --> 00:46:37.679
<v Speaker 1>a couple hundred bucks into the slot machine labeled Grock coin.

918
00:46:38.679 --> 00:46:40.719
<v Speaker 4>Well, yeah, then you got to flip into the native coin,

919
00:46:40.880 --> 00:46:44.199
<v Speaker 4>so you got and then you just convert instantly into

920
00:46:44.199 --> 00:46:45.159
<v Speaker 4>the into the other one.

921
00:46:45.360 --> 00:46:48.159
<v Speaker 3>But which you can do. People do that all the time.

922
00:46:48.320 --> 00:46:51.119
<v Speaker 4>But my advice would be, if you're going to do that,

923
00:46:51.840 --> 00:46:52.960
<v Speaker 4>do it immediately.

924
00:46:53.079 --> 00:46:55.159
<v Speaker 3>Do not sit in that native coin.

925
00:46:55.039 --> 00:46:58.199
<v Speaker 4>Because like you said, right, is there some value we'd

926
00:46:58.239 --> 00:47:03.000
<v Speaker 4>assigned to the grock coin. Well, well, again, it effectively worthless,

927
00:47:03.239 --> 00:47:07.480
<v Speaker 4>but it's less worthless than the native coin because it's

928
00:47:07.480 --> 00:47:11.280
<v Speaker 4>tied to musk, right, so there is something there. But yeah,

929
00:47:11.280 --> 00:47:13.559
<v Speaker 4>if you're going to do the and quite honestly, Todd,

930
00:47:13.880 --> 00:47:17.119
<v Speaker 4>when I look around at the world today, it's one

931
00:47:17.159 --> 00:47:19.119
<v Speaker 4>of the reasons that we're invested the way we are.

932
00:47:19.719 --> 00:47:22.519
<v Speaker 4>I think all of this nonsense and all of this

933
00:47:22.599 --> 00:47:26.760
<v Speaker 4>craziness and greed that's driving all this, I think the

934
00:47:26.800 --> 00:47:32.079
<v Speaker 4>real investment opportunity is the other opportunities that's created, right,

935
00:47:32.159 --> 00:47:35.239
<v Speaker 4>Meaning when people are pumping all this money into this

936
00:47:35.320 --> 00:47:38.719
<v Speaker 4>thing over here, it's not going into this thing over here. Yeah, right,

937
00:47:38.760 --> 00:47:42.760
<v Speaker 4>And I think I in my opinion, I think everybody

938
00:47:42.840 --> 00:47:45.760
<v Speaker 4>chasing the coins is literally going in the wrong direction.

939
00:47:47.119 --> 00:47:51.599
<v Speaker 4>I think the investment opportunity are all the real assets that,

940
00:47:51.719 --> 00:47:56.599
<v Speaker 4>in my opinion, are artificially cheap due to all the

941
00:47:56.679 --> 00:47:57.960
<v Speaker 4>kids chasing the nonsense.

942
00:47:58.480 --> 00:48:00.880
<v Speaker 3>And so I look at it. When I can buy.

943
00:48:00.639 --> 00:48:02.719
<v Speaker 4>Companies that are growing at fifteen or twenty percent a

944
00:48:02.800 --> 00:48:04.079
<v Speaker 4>year and are paying me at twelve and a half

945
00:48:04.159 --> 00:48:07.519
<v Speaker 4>to thirteen percent dividend with a clean balance sheet, I

946
00:48:07.639 --> 00:48:09.880
<v Speaker 4>like that a lot more than buying some dude's coin,

947
00:48:10.800 --> 00:48:13.679
<v Speaker 4>you know what I mean? Right, So, and that's and

948
00:48:13.960 --> 00:48:17.159
<v Speaker 4>that to me, when you get into these environments of

949
00:48:17.239 --> 00:48:20.199
<v Speaker 4>euphoric nonsense, where are looking around going what's going on?

950
00:48:20.599 --> 00:48:21.639
<v Speaker 3>The one trigger that.

951
00:48:21.639 --> 00:48:23.719
<v Speaker 4>Is I've learned to have go off in my mind

952
00:48:24.039 --> 00:48:26.079
<v Speaker 4>is when you see a bunch of people doing a

953
00:48:26.079 --> 00:48:30.159
<v Speaker 4>lot of irrational nonsense, there has to be and it's

954
00:48:30.280 --> 00:48:36.960
<v Speaker 4>usually high quality, right, like uh you know, uh, you know,

955
00:48:37.519 --> 00:48:41.960
<v Speaker 4>foundational type stuff that simultaneously is going to be way

956
00:48:41.960 --> 00:48:44.880
<v Speaker 4>too cheap, right, because what do people throw out? Like

957
00:48:45.119 --> 00:48:48.079
<v Speaker 4>if you're going to sell stocks out of your portfolio

958
00:48:48.239 --> 00:48:52.079
<v Speaker 4>to buy a mean coin, You're probably not going to

959
00:48:52.159 --> 00:48:53.000
<v Speaker 4>sell your Tesla.

960
00:48:53.480 --> 00:48:55.840
<v Speaker 3>You're probably going to sell your General Mills.

961
00:48:55.880 --> 00:48:59.280
<v Speaker 4>Right, You're probably gonna sell your Stalwart, your Coca Cola,

962
00:48:59.360 --> 00:49:02.960
<v Speaker 4>your McDonald something like that, Right, and so what happens

963
00:49:03.199 --> 00:49:04.599
<v Speaker 4>and you can see that today.

964
00:49:04.679 --> 00:49:06.840
<v Speaker 3>I don't think those stocks that I just mentioned are cheap.

965
00:49:07.159 --> 00:49:08.840
<v Speaker 4>But when you go look at these some of these

966
00:49:08.880 --> 00:49:13.719
<v Speaker 4>boring companies, you know, we just like I think, I

967
00:49:13.760 --> 00:49:17.239
<v Speaker 4>told you we bought an airline, an international airline that

968
00:49:17.639 --> 00:49:21.199
<v Speaker 4>is doing phenomenally that the future looks incredibly bright for

969
00:49:22.000 --> 00:49:24.599
<v Speaker 4>and there trade. We bought them at a at a

970
00:49:24.679 --> 00:49:27.719
<v Speaker 4>twenty percent discount to their net asset value, paying a

971
00:49:27.880 --> 00:49:30.440
<v Speaker 4>six and a half percent dividends per year, and the

972
00:49:30.480 --> 00:49:33.679
<v Speaker 4>things trading at six times earnings, where it's counterpart in

973
00:49:33.719 --> 00:49:37.400
<v Speaker 4>the US is trading at twenty four. And so you're like, I,

974
00:49:37.760 --> 00:49:40.920
<v Speaker 4>So I'm seeing all these opportunities, and I'm getting sitting

975
00:49:40.920 --> 00:49:43.159
<v Speaker 4>there going, yeah, you know, this whole mean coin thing

976
00:49:43.519 --> 00:49:45.920
<v Speaker 4>that it is unveiled a lot of opportunities.

977
00:49:45.960 --> 00:49:47.320
<v Speaker 3>I just don't think it's in mean coins.

978
00:49:47.599 --> 00:49:49.559
<v Speaker 1>Oh you know, it's so funny you mentioned airlines because

979
00:49:49.559 --> 00:49:51.719
<v Speaker 1>I was just mentioning. I was just remembering on one

980
00:49:51.719 --> 00:49:54.599
<v Speaker 1>of the greatest three actor scenes in the history of movies,

981
00:49:55.280 --> 00:50:00.960
<v Speaker 1>Michael Douglas and Charlie Sheen and Martin Sheen in Wall

982
00:50:01.000 --> 00:50:07.719
<v Speaker 1>Street and Gordon Geckoin the Kirk douglas character, Kirk Douglas

983
00:50:07.840 --> 00:50:11.239
<v Speaker 1>is that who is Mike Michael Michael Douglas. Michael Douglas

984
00:50:11.280 --> 00:50:15.440
<v Speaker 1>does this incredible pitch and Bud Fox Charlie Sheen is

985
00:50:15.440 --> 00:50:17.679
<v Speaker 1>involved in the pitch about how they're going to take

986
00:50:17.719 --> 00:50:21.159
<v Speaker 1>this little regional airline and make it huge. And the

987
00:50:21.199 --> 00:50:24.320
<v Speaker 1>pitch is over, and there's Martin Sheen, the guy who

988
00:50:24.519 --> 00:50:30.480
<v Speaker 1>represents the union workers, and he laughs, he laughs his

989
00:50:30.519 --> 00:50:33.360
<v Speaker 1>head off. You don't care about my men or my airline.

990
00:50:33.440 --> 00:50:35.840
<v Speaker 1>You want to piece us apart and sell us for parts.

991
00:50:36.480 --> 00:50:38.599
<v Speaker 1>You don't care about the airline business. And then he's

992
00:50:38.599 --> 00:50:42.480
<v Speaker 1>saying to his kid in the elevator, son, Son, there's

993
00:50:42.559 --> 00:50:45.880
<v Speaker 1>real value. We move people. My men work on airplanes.

994
00:50:46.199 --> 00:50:50.039
<v Speaker 1>We get families to graduations and funerals. There's real value here.

995
00:50:50.320 --> 00:50:54.119
<v Speaker 1>This guy's not selling value, son, right, this guy's selling

996
00:50:54.159 --> 00:50:58.639
<v Speaker 1>smoking mirrors. And it turns out, of course, you know,

997
00:50:58.719 --> 00:51:01.440
<v Speaker 1>Charlie Sheen's character is furious his father's father just doesn't

998
00:51:01.440 --> 00:51:04.159
<v Speaker 1>get it, and sadly turns out his father's right. And

999
00:51:04.360 --> 00:51:05.920
<v Speaker 1>Bud Fox has a lot of time to think about

1000
00:51:05.920 --> 00:51:09.719
<v Speaker 1>that he was in prison and wearing wires and going

1001
00:51:09.760 --> 00:51:12.800
<v Speaker 1>after people like Gordon get go, man Zach. What a

1002
00:51:12.880 --> 00:51:17.079
<v Speaker 1>conversation today, I am. I It's hard for me to

1003
00:51:17.079 --> 00:51:22.159
<v Speaker 1>say this, but I was legitimately a bunny when it

1004
00:51:22.199 --> 00:51:25.320
<v Speaker 1>came to thinking of insider trading laws. I legitimately thought

1005
00:51:25.440 --> 00:51:27.880
<v Speaker 1>you could get more trouble than me or anyone in

1006
00:51:27.920 --> 00:51:32.000
<v Speaker 1>the podcast family on the radio show Families, We anyone

1007
00:51:32.079 --> 00:51:35.840
<v Speaker 1>listening to this. You can get in more trouble overhearing

1008
00:51:35.840 --> 00:51:40.480
<v Speaker 1>a conversation on a subway train and making a trade

1009
00:51:40.519 --> 00:51:42.800
<v Speaker 1>based upon that. If someone ever found that out, you

1010
00:51:42.880 --> 00:51:49.480
<v Speaker 1>could get in more trouble than congressmen and senators who

1011
00:51:49.639 --> 00:51:53.880
<v Speaker 1>have the detailed they have the the literal deal points,

1012
00:51:54.159 --> 00:51:55.599
<v Speaker 1>term sheets, and contracts in front.

1013
00:51:55.480 --> 00:51:57.800
<v Speaker 3>Of them, and they regulate those industries.

1014
00:51:58.639 --> 00:52:00.800
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, right, and they regulate those industry so they have

1015
00:52:01.440 --> 00:52:04.440
<v Speaker 4>incredible inside knowledge, they have incredible inside access.

1016
00:52:04.880 --> 00:52:05.599
<v Speaker 3>Right, If any.

1017
00:52:05.480 --> 00:52:08.039
<v Speaker 4>CEO of Nancy Pelosi calls any CEO in the country,

1018
00:52:08.039 --> 00:52:10.679
<v Speaker 4>they're picking up the phone or they're calling her back. Right,

1019
00:52:10.760 --> 00:52:13.679
<v Speaker 4>I don't get that same kind of treatment. So you

1020
00:52:13.960 --> 00:52:17.960
<v Speaker 4>naturally you should be held to a higher standard because

1021
00:52:17.960 --> 00:52:20.960
<v Speaker 4>of the access you have information. And it's the exact opposite,

1022
00:52:21.079 --> 00:52:25.079
<v Speaker 4>it's the exact opposite. Would I get tagged before you. Yeah,

1023
00:52:25.119 --> 00:52:28.480
<v Speaker 4>I'm more visible. I manage other people's money. But bottom

1024
00:52:28.480 --> 00:52:32.280
<v Speaker 4>line is, if you and I both make those those trades,

1025
00:52:32.480 --> 00:52:34.480
<v Speaker 4>we're both looking at the same we're both looking at

1026
00:52:34.480 --> 00:52:35.119
<v Speaker 4>the same problems.

1027
00:52:35.159 --> 00:52:36.639
<v Speaker 1>Well, maybe you and I can have the same jail soon.

1028
00:52:37.480 --> 00:52:40.119
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well we'll work out a lot.

1029
00:52:40.199 --> 00:52:41.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I know, I call top bump.

1030
00:52:42.159 --> 00:52:46.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah that's fine. I'm not gonna fight you.

1031
00:52:46.360 --> 00:52:49.000
<v Speaker 1>Sounds good, all right, Thank you, Zach Wise counsel Day

1032
00:52:49.119 --> 00:52:51.559
<v Speaker 1>Todd Herman Shaw appreciate you very much. And remember, Zach

1033
00:52:51.599 --> 00:52:54.480
<v Speaker 1>and I will be in portavart To Mexico early June,

1034
00:52:55.039 --> 00:52:57.000
<v Speaker 1>hanging out, going to dinner and love you to get

1035
00:52:57.000 --> 00:52:58.880
<v Speaker 1>down there. But that means you should get with renewed

1036
00:52:58.880 --> 00:53:01.440
<v Speaker 1>dot Healthcare as soon as possible. This is a Todd

1037
00:53:01.440 --> 00:53:04.079
<v Speaker 1>Herbert show. Please go, be well, be strong, be kind,

1038
00:53:04.119 --> 00:53:06.840
<v Speaker 1>and please make every effort to walk in the light

1039
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<v Speaker 1>of Christ.
