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Speaker 3: Well, welcome back to gun Talk, Tom Greshamir. We to
talk about almost anything that has to do with guns
and accessories and EDC. Everyday, Carrie, basically the things we
do in terms of keeping ourselves safe. And a company
that's been doing that for a long time, and frankly
I have been a big fan user of their products.
Fact on, Carrie, at least one of their products every
single day is Surefire I guarantee. Well, let me just check, yep,
it's there. It's in my pocket right now, Always got
my Surefire stiletto with me. Joining us right now is
Trevor Usterrov Trevor, I appreciate you being here. I mean
I am a huge fan of what you guys do.
Speaker 4: Yeah, thanks Tom.
Speaker 3: I tell people if you start carrying a good flashlight,
you will be amazed and how often you use it
throughout the day, just for little things that you never
imagined before.
Speaker 4: Right, I agree.
Speaker 3: I mean it's like, Okay, I'm looking inside of my
bag and I'm looking for something in my backpack or
in my briefcase or underneath the bed, or it's like, oh,
I got a light, I could go check out that out.
It's always there and always handy. What is it about,
Surefi and you got your start in lights? How do
you guys make such good lights?
Speaker 5: Everything for us is American source Materials, American made. All
the people that are working from sort of the machine
shop all the way into production, they're all on the
same page of our mission statement of making the best
product we can. Whether it's for the civilian user or
the least or the military end user. We're trying to
make the best illumination product we can just to keep
everybody safe, and in turn, that makes great everyday carry
lights that they're not always used for defensive purposes, but
they're definitely useful every day for finding keys or your
kids or your dogs or whatever else is out there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it is amazing how often you use it that way.
You mentioned you're making products for law enforcement and for military,
and I kind of get the impression that when you're
making products for them, whether it's a light or weapon
light or a suppressor, it's got to be made tough.
It's got to be made so that it really lasts.
People have betting their lives on it. But we on
our side, who are not going into harm's way on purpose,
we get the benefit of that. Yeah.
Speaker 5: We put some of these lights through intense testing, whether
it's freezing them below extreme temperatures or extreme heats. They
get thrown in salt baths, shaker tables, all these crazy things.
Speaker 4: That I would never do. It's in my pocket. It
lives such a easy life.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a huge part of what we want to
accomplish is making those people safe for that intense job
that they do, and you know, keeping everybody safe for
bringing them home from whatever deployment they're on.
Speaker 3: All right, So I just went to the website. People
can check it out Surefire sure surefire dot com. And
I did not know about this product. This is one
of the coolest things. I didn't know if you have
any of them left, But it's the red white and
blue limited edition Stiletto Pro That is so outrageous.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was two hundred and fifty years of you know,
America's birthday there, So for fourth of July, we tried
to do something fun and I do believe they are
still in stock and ready to purchase if you want one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because a limited to like a thousand units, I
think is what I saw.
Speaker 5: Very limited pieces, but super cool, super fun. We just
try to do something different to celebrate two hundred and
fifty years of our amazing country.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Pretty neat stuff, all right. I know you used
to work a customer service You heard stories about people
using these things in various ways and saying, you know,
something happened to it, Is it still good or is
it covered? You got to tell at least one or
two of those stories.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I started in the sales department there and customer service,
and then I quickly moved to our warranty department.
Speaker 4: So I've seen a lot of interesting things. Yeah.
Speaker 5: A story that kind of pops up as a swat
officer had a knife wielding suspect swing the knife at
him and as he was raising his rifle, the light
sort of caught the knife and deflected it in a
direction that kept him safe and he was able to
apprehend the suspect there and not get hurt. And the
light definitely took it without any sort of issues there
and was still on and working and got him in
his team behind him safe and just an interesting thing.
We see a lot of crazy stories from lights being
shot or being used in extreme environments like fires and
still turning on and still working getting those people safe.
Speaker 4: It's really cool to see.
Speaker 3: It really is part of your life saving gear, isn't it.
Speaker 4: That's why we try so hard to make a good product.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm just thinking that this thing could save you
one hundred thousand dollars. What are you talking about, Well,
if you don't have to shoot somebody, it can save
you one hundred thousand dollars right there. And a lot
of times hitting somebody with a thousand lumens of light
just stops them in their tracks.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree. Definitely, being able to see what.
Speaker 5: You're looking at and you know that could be a
huge choice, and whether you shoot or not shoot is
extremely important for us. That's why we make these really
cool products and advocate for having weapon lights and handheld
lights in your pockets.
Speaker 3: I'm also thinking that there are places where you cannot
go with your gun, but having this gives you one
more option once again, hitting somebody with this with the
bright light stunts, if you can buy yourself three to
five seconds of somebody being blinded by the light, you
can boogy out of there and no longer in danger.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I agree. An exit plan is always a good one,
all right.
Speaker 3: So you were telling me you've got a new suppressor.
You got to tell me about this, Yeah, we do.
Speaker 5: It's our new Socom for series suppressor. Still a low
back pressure can for us. If you've seen the suppressor
that was before it, the RC three, you would probably
be familiar with that low back pressure. Low back pressure,
less gas coming into the weapon system is overall healthy
for us. Not breathing in those toxic gases easier on
the weapon systems. It helps prolong the life of our
bullet carrier groups and all that kind of stuff. But
the front end of the Socom Force suppressor looks much different.
We've updated the flash performance all while still keeping that
low back pressure.
Speaker 4: So it's a full inkinel can.
Speaker 5: It's super durable that people know and love about our press.
The thing is going to last a very long time,
but it's going to be extremely well with flash mitigation
and low back pressure, all while keeping the sound reduction
relatively the same as the others.
Speaker 3: So what do you see in in suppressor sales now?
And now that we're not having to pay the two
hundred dollars text? Did that free up a lot of
people say okay, now I'll go ahead and buy one.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we've definitely seen an uptick in suppressor purchases. If
it's easier to get them, that's great because we want
more people to have them.
Speaker 4: It's definitely easier on all of our ears.
Speaker 3: Yep. Yeah, not just the shooter, other people at the
range and the other people around you. They appreciate it
as well. All right, So if you wanted to tell somebody, look,
I work at Surefire and this is what you ought
to know about my company.
Speaker 5: Everybody is on the same page about making the best
product we can. We know where these lights are going,
we know where the suppressors are going. They're going in
the hands of people that do a very extremely dangerous jobs.
So we want to keep them as safe as possible.
And the one thing that is very cool is everybody
from just the C and C manufacturing all the way
through production to sales.
Speaker 4: To the warranty.
Speaker 5: Guys, we're all on that same page and that's very important,
I think. And everything's made in America and that's very
important to us too, like American source materials, American manufacturing
keeps jobs in America and we're extremely proud about that.
Speaker 3: Basically, make the best product you can, and then figure
out where the price has to be, but don't worry
about trying to manufacture or design it.
Speaker 4: To a price exactly.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there you go, Trevor. I appreciate your time. I mean,
I love your products, and I'm not kidding. I usually
have one sometimes too sure fire flash lights in my
pocket at all times and I use them all the time,
and I have given a number of them away. I
mean I just wait for the sales and buy them
and then give them away and everybody just really appreciates it,
just like, oh man, it's a surefire that is so cool. Yeah.
Speaker 5: I appreciate you, Tom. You guys are always so and
so fun. Thank you for having me on the show.
Speaker 3: You bet all. I take care, Bhi, don't go far.
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Speaker 3: All right, now is your time. You can give me
a call talk about what pretty much anything has to
do with guns. Eighty six six Talk Gun also known
as Tom Talk. It'll get you in here. Got this
email just a minute ago from Benny, but he says,
a great show again, Tom appreciate it. Says we've got
a guy called earlier. We were talking about a guy
who carries two twenty two long rifle pistols. He says,
I have always been faithful to the twenty two magnum,
knowing that with proper shop placement it wouldn't let me down.
Please share your thoughts on the twenty two Magnum. Well, Benny,
I like between two mag I think it's a heck
of a good cartridge. There are some very knowledgeable people
I know who carry revolvers in twenty two magnum, and
you know, I get it. People say, well, you know,
why wouldn't you carry thirty eight? Why wouldn't you care? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
it's all choices. But honestly, one or even two. I
know people who carry two revolvers. If you had six
or eight shot twenty two Magnum revolver, first of all,
you got very little recoiled and there are some pretty
good defensive loads now which we didn't have twenty years
ago in twenty two magnum. I you know, it's it's
a viable choice. Is it the right choice? And not
sure there is such a thing. I mean, whatever the
choice is, if you know how to use it, and
you choose it and you carry it, it's the right
choice for you. Is a three eighty the right choice? Well,
it is for some people. I was just telling my
wife about the Smith and Weston Bodyguard two point zero.
I said, you know, I think I'd like you to
try this gun because she has trouble with working slide
and the Smith easy works really well for her. Said,
but you know, you got to try this. It's smaller,
it's a three eighty three work fine, you can work
the slide on it, so we're going to get her
to try that at the range. I have one of
those in so we'll do that. So three eighty twenty
two twenty two magnum, I don't let me put the
call out. Is there anybody out there who carries a
twenty two or a twenty two magnum as your regular
defensive gun. If so, I'd love to hear from them
to give me a call at tom Talk gun. On
the subject of flipping people off, I've mentioned that a
couple of times today, and Robert says, as driving instructor
tells his students, every time you get in a car
and before you start the engine, you got to tell
yourself something. My obligation is to get there safely, not
on time. It is a great point. Being on time
is nice, but it's not important. I mean, look, I'm
the punctual guy. I hate to be late, and I
hate it when people are late to an appointment. And yet,
having said that, if something happens, if you would have
to jeopardize safety to try to get there a few
minutes earlier, well that's a bad trade off. Driving fast
not a good way to go, Certainly, driving erradically, passing
people flipping people off all the rest of it. No,
your obligation is semping to get there safely, not necessarily
on time, he says. Before flipping somebody off, act as
if these two things are factual. Number one, react as
if you're in a Ford fiesta and the other guys
at an F one fifty. He says. Also number two,
you the flipper have a metal finger and the flip
fee has a gun. Just it's all about getting your
head right. Far too many people, I am afraid, buy
a gun for self defense and think they've done what
they need to do. Now I have a gun. Yeah,
we call that the ante just to get into the game.
That just gets you started. You gotta be good with
the gun, and you got to know how to shoot it.
But it goes more than that. You have to know
de escalation techniques. You really seriously need to get training.
And I'm just afraid that a lot of people when
I talk about training, think I mean going to the
range and shooting practicing. That's not what I'm talking about.
And I tried to figure out how to explain this.
I think this is the way when you're shooting at
the range by yourself or with your buddies. That's practice.
For it to be training, there must be a trainer.
There must be an instructor. You go and take a class,
and that's training, and then you use the training to
teach you things that you can then go in practice.
For the most part, you cannot teach yourself this stuff.
And I know that's not exactly one hundred percent true.
There are things you can learn, and you can teach yourself,
but for the most part, you would be so much
better off going and taking a real class on this stuff.
You know. I'm just looking at the stories that are
coming out, and we've got things happening all the time.
I wouldn't expect this out of Nebraska, but then again,
I guess it's everywhere. Lincoln, Nebraska is saying that it
has the ability to prohibit carry in parks and on trails.
Gun owners are suing them, saying, no, you don't have
that authority, and Lincoln says, yeah, we do. Well, the
way the law is written, private owners can keep people
off if they're carrying their guns. Okay, that's private ownership.
Lincoln is saying, well, we own the parks and we
own the trails. No, you do not. The people own
the parks and the people own the trails. It is
not privately owned. They're acting these city is saying we
can keep people off of there. Well, this all came
about when Nebraska passed constitutional carrying twenty twenty three, So
now you don't need a permit to carry, so anybody
can carry. So the city back to two cities, Lincoln
and shoot the other. I'm gonna pull a blank hair
again in just a second. They passed laws that said
we can keep the people off of those will claim
that these are private property. So all right here it
is Omaha and Lincoln. Well, Omaha got a ruling Crown
judge that says, no, you can't do that. Lincoln, we're
still fighting it. So yet this is just another example
that we can be winning all the way up to
the Supreme Court, and there are still going to be
battles like this, and the other would be state battles
or even be city battles where a city decides we're
going to prevent our citizens from being able to protect themselves,
from being able to increase their safety. We're gonna tell
you you can't carry in parks and you can't carry
on trails and I'm sorry. We never get to relax.
We never get to say, well, gee, we won that one.
I guess we're good. We have Trump in, we have
a good or a better department of Justice, not a good,
but a better department of justice. We haven't improved atf
and we're getting good decisions out of the Supreme Court,
and yet at the same time we still have to
fight these things all the time. It's all just a
matter of making a commitment, and you got to do that,
all right. Switching over, we are weeks away in some cases,
maybe a couple of months away funding seasons. I got
to get out to the range, and we try to
get out there this week. I have two, maybe three
rifles that I need to get ready for the rifle
season that I got one rifle that I haven't shot yet.
I bought it about five four or five months ago,
and for whatever reason events conspired, I haven't got it
out to the range. It is did you ever do this?
You ever buy a gun that you actually have trouble
explaining why you bought it. This is one of those.
And yeah, I know, I know I wanted it is
reason enough, and it is I wanted it, so I
bought it, but as far as justification of what's it for,
I don't know. It's a rifle in three seven five
h and H, which is a great caliber, wonderful around
the world. You can hunt pretty much anything you want
to hunt on the planet with it. There are some
African nations where you're not allowed to use that on
elephant and such, but it would be enough. It would
do the job. It's big, it's powerful, it kicks, which
also makes it fun. I've had three seven vice before.
This is a German rifle heim h e YM, good
quality Mauser type. I haven't shot it yet, so I'm
gonna take it out there. I'm gonna use one of
the bog tripods to shoot it rather than sitting off
a bench better. I think shooting it standing up with
the rest just from a recoil standpoint leaning over on
a bench rest, it can really beat you up with
a heavy kicker like this. And of course everybody always says, well,
what did you get that for? I guess the proper answer,
just because I wanted it and I think it'll be
fun to shoot. What are you gonna use it for?
Not a thing, just going to the range and having fun.
And maybe I'll own it for a year, Maybe I'll
have it for five years, maybe I'll have it forever.
I don't know, but it just you know what, bottom eye,
It makes me happy. It makes me happy being able
to buy it. It makes me happy to be able
to take it out for rains. Let my buddy shoot
it with me. Do you have a gun like that
where you're thinking, I'm not exactly sure why I own it,
but I shouldn't have liked owning it. If do share
the story, you're right Back. A little while back, I
was mentioning that if you have a long gun for
self defense, a shotgun or a riflele, you should have
a sling on it. I think a lot of people
don't because they haven't thought about it. They don't understand
what you do with it. And over on ex Anthony
was asking me, said, well, what good is a sling
going to do in my house besides getting hooked on
a doorknob? I get it, you don't know what you
don't know. That's why you go to a class to
learn this stuff. Or what good is a sling gonna do?
Speaker 8: Me?
Speaker 3: Okay, you gotta sling on your ar or your shotgun
either one not gonna use it for shooting necessarily. But
a sling on a long gun is like a holster
for your handgun. It gives you a place to put
it when you're not using it. Otherwise you got to
what are you gonna do? Put it down, hold it
in one hand. Maybe you need two hands for something.
Maybe you need two hands to go and grab your
kids and get them out of the house. Or you
just sling your gun and go. You can sling it
on the shoulders, You can sling in over your head
and across. You can sling it muzzle up. You can
sling it muzzle down. Why would you do any of those?
Why would you choose one over the other. There are
reasons why you would. Again, training go into a class
to teach you this stuff, and you're thinking, well, yeah,
but do I yes, you need a class like this.
How are you going to go from I'm shooting my
rifle to now I need to shoot my pistol. I'm
gonna do a transition? How do you do that? Well,
there are specific ways that you do that, and you
will do it in class, and you will shoot live
fire and you'll transition from your long gun to your handgun,
to which a lot of people say, well, I can't
ever imagine. Yeah, I know you can't ever imagine it
because you haven't really exercised your imagination. Need you go
to some place where they will stretch your imagination as
well as given you more skills. Let's go grab Larry
on line two out of Arkansas. Hello Larry, you're on
Gun Talk. What's up?
Speaker 8: Hey, Tom?
Speaker 3: How are you?
Speaker 8: I had a range before about my NEWSIG three six five,
But in the beginning of your your show today you
talk to the guy about delayed and.
Speaker 3: Just denied.
Speaker 8: Being able to buy the gun. I buy guns from
time to time, not as many as you by any means.
But I got delayed for I don't know. It was
a couple of hours before I could pick up my gun,
and I had no idea why. It's just it's just
a strange thing, and I wanted to mention that. But
I do love my new three sixty five. I've heard
you talk positive about it several times. I bought a
Hellcat when I first moved to Arkansas. I moved to
the Free State of Arkansas from California. I never did
I never did really like the Hellcat. I always carried
a River LT nine F but the capacity was just
you know, seven in and one in the chambers, just
with the sake. I bought an ex and it carries
twelve plus one, so it's a great deal. But I
want to tell you about the range that I belonged to.
It's actually I don't belong to it. It's just at
the semi private range. Anybody can go out there. It's
down the donation type of thing. But I got involved
with a group. It's out there once a month. Uh.
Two gentlemen, my consul the first name. I'm in a
small little range. They're both instructors, certified. I believe in
our a certified instructors. We do it at the end
of the every the last Saturday of every month. We
run drills. You know, we come from bolster to the
to the center, math and under the head or things
like that. Would change it up all the time. Sometimes
we're using timers, sometimes we don't. And we always finished
up with a scenario. Yesterday's scenario was sitting in a chair,
three bad guys and two good guys. Two good guys
in the front obscured the bad guys. Uh, so you
had to shift your you draw from seated position safely.
Of course they stressed safety one hundred percent, and I
kind of choked, and I wing, it's one of the
good guys. Uh bad, that's right, that's I realized. I've
never drawn from a seated position and I've never actually
shot around the good guy, so to speak. And they're
the hardboard cutouts with the center mass perforated. You know,
it's eta or something like that. Cardboards anyway, So I
kind of choked. I see, man, I need to work
on that. I've never drawn from the seated position before.
Something to do. And at that point then you get
up out of their transitioned to behind two blue barrels
covered and then you have two more bad guys that
you put three to the chest. That was our scenario yesterday.
And we do that one at a time when we're
doing that otherwise, and there's about fifteen twenty people that
show up. There's never a charge. We once a year
kick in for the targets and such like that. They
do it because Mike and Phil do this because there's
second a guys and they really believe in our sport.
And I live in a very friendly gun area, which
is an amazing deal compared to California, where I moved
from four years ago.
Speaker 3: So let me give you a couple of thoughts on this. Okay, Yeah,
most people have never thought about drawing from a seating position,
so there's a move that you got to make there.
The other is, if you're sitting at a table, you
got to be careful if you draw, and then you
could clunk your gun onto the underside of the table.
So you have to actually work on bringing your gun
really high, like next to you, under your armpit before
you rotate down, and then bring it out over the
top of the table. Let me throw. I love what
you're doing. I love what they're doing because you end
up learning new things. But also you get a little
bit of pressure because you got the watchful eye of
all your buddies out there watching you to do this.
The thing I would suggest to you is this, if
it's a brand new scenario, it's something you haven't practiced before.
When you do it the first time, do it really slowly,
like stupid slow, like running in molasses slow, and don't
worry about the time. Don't worry about that at all.
Just move slowly. Try to work on your movements you're
going to work your way around. You're not going to
shoot the good guys, you're going to do all that.
I mean, I love what you're doing. And you guys
are you're doing it right and putting this thing together.
I mean, tell me you're just having fun doing this,
aren't you.
Speaker 8: It's absolutely like minded guys having a really and women.
There are three women with their husband's working last last week.
Sometimes there's no women, sometimes there are. It's like minded guys.
Everybody is very positive. And it's not all about the timers.
There wasn't a timer on this scenario list at all.
Sometimes the drills they do timers and stuff, but not
every time. It's just they mix it up all the
time to keep it interesting and keep it fun. We
work from three yards to back to ten yards and different,
like I said, different drills all the time. And the
guys are just and it's so positant. It's never a
judgmentble man, did you see what Larry? Did you know?
It's never that, Hey, they're really good, but you know
such and such you could have done better.
Speaker 3: And I'm betting you. I'm betting that. On the drive
back and during the day you replayed that scenario. That's
sitting scenario over and over in your head. You reshot
that run over and over again, didn't you?
Speaker 8: Absolutely?
Speaker 3: Absolutely yeah, And there's a lot of learning and training
that takes place after the fact when you're doing that
great range of port love you know, and look enjoy
that three sixty five. That is a great platform and
all its variation from the little bitty one you know,
to the fuse, to the macro to the legion to
all the different things they've done. What an incredibly successful
platform at Sega's had with that. Let's grab Chris and Stockton, California.
Hey Chris, you're on gun Talk. What's up, Hi? Tom?
Speaker 9: Yeah, I'm looking at a Springfield Army echelon their their
gear pack, and I'm looking at their four point zero
barrel getting that gear that the thing is once offered
in a compensated barrel and one is a non compensated.
Speaker 10: Barrel nine millioneer.
Speaker 9: I'm wondering if there is a big difference as far
as you know, handling and then also maybe gases blown
up over the Green Dots site.
Speaker 3: If I go compensated a little bit with the gases,
but you do definitely get a reduction and muzzle rise
with a comp I mean it's noticeable, and for competition
it's really helpful. If it's your carry gun, it probably
is unnecessary. And I know people say, well it's faster. Yeah,
I'm not sure that matters. The main thing is getting
the first shot on target, and if it adds links
to the barrel, now you've got a whole story issue.
Possibly it's personal preference, but I would say maybe yes
on competition or arrange and maybe judgment call your call
on Concrokerry. Which way are you leaning at this point?
Speaker 9: I was thinking concealed carry and it's the barrel is
where it's compensated at it. It's not an extension at
the end of the barrel.
Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, so our same length, that's not going to
be a fact that Yeah, Honestly, I would say if
you want the cop get the comp I think it'll
be fine and I don't think it's going to be
an issue on your optic. You may have to clean
your optic a little bit more if you're shooting a
good bit, but other than that, I think it's gonna
be an issue. I think you'll enjoy it, will shoot
really well.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I've never shot a nine millimeter with a compensated
so I just didn't know if there'd be a big
difference or feeling or anything. But I'm kind I'm kind
of thinking it might be fun to have.
Speaker 3: Yeah, do us a favorite. You get the cop gun,
shoot it, and then call us back and let us
know what you think.
Speaker 9: Okay, Oh, okay, sounds good. I'll run a gun store
right now.
Speaker 3: Good man, I like it. What you think there, Thank
you for the call. All right, our work here is done.
We've sent somebody off to the gun store. Oh oh,
speaking of that, I am seeing some incredible sales. Just
saw anothering pop up a Smith and Wesson MMP, the
metal version, which generally goes for I think retailer it's
a thousand bucks. And I just saw an ad for
one online for like seven sixty seven seventy. I was
just saying, there are some real deals out there. And
when you're at the gun store, ask the folks at
the gun store, look, are there any programs? Is there
any way to get the price down. It's okay to
ask for a lotwer price. You can negotiate with a
gun store. Sometimes they will, sometimes they won't, but they
may say oh yeah, we've got a rebate going that
you know you didn't know about. And say, look, there's
a deal with these guys or Springfield or whoever has
a deal. You buy the pistol and you get six
magazines or whatever, ask them what kind of specials are
going on, and see what you can get. I mean,
it is a great time to be buying guns right now.
Let me tell you there's some super deals. And obviously
you got the mail order places, but if you can
I understand. You know your gun store may not have
the thing you're looking for. They can probably order it
for you. But just saying, but when you can, if
you can shop at your local gun store, you know,
it keeps them in business. And make sure that there's
a gun store there with a gunsmith, and maybe arrange
when you come back, because it's a tough way to
make a business. Look, all small businesses are hard. If
you've owned a business, you know what I'm talking about.
I mean, it's every day, it's getting the revenue in,
it's taking care of the inventory, it's taking care of
the payroll, insurance, taxes, all the rest of it. Things
that maybe the mail order houses don't have. And I know,
people say, well, it's not my job to subsidize them.
Well maybe, then again, maybe it is. If it's another
twenty five bucks to buy a gun and you help
keep your local gun store own business, is that worth it?
And look, I get it, it's twenty five bucks, whatever
it is. And some will say, yeah, nope, I'm not
going to do that. Okay, that's your call. I kind
of I go to this maybe differently from other people.
I think it's really important for us all to try
to make sure that we have a vibrant, strong firearms industry,
that we keep gunsmiths in business, and we keep gun
stores in business. And yeah, I get the whole mail
order deal and order any things online and then paying
the transfer at the gun store, and maybe when you
go in and if you do it that way, fine,
and you go into the gun store and you pay
them the transfer fee to get their gun, maybe buy
some stuff while you're there. I get it. Everybody's trying
to save money, and everybody's squeezing the dollars as hard
as you can. It's just it's a mindset that I have,
just trying to help each other out. I don't know
the other thing I would offer. We had a guy
pulled over side of the road right in front of
our house yesterday. I was actually out on the deck
and it's like, you know, thirty yards down to the road.
He said, you guys okay, he says yeah. He says,
we got a part kind of He's got a skip
plate fell off of his truck and it's dragging, and
I said, okay, well, you know, I figured he's okay.
A few minutes later, he comes up. He says, would
you happen to have a socket wrench I need a
ten milimeter socket wrench worker. He says, yeah, let me
go grab it. So up went and grab a full
socket wrench set, gave it to him, and he took
off with it, and me thinking, you know, I'm sure
it's gonna be fine. At the same time, he could
get in this car and take my brand new du
Walt socket wrench set and drive off with it. But
I'm taking that chance just because I think it's a
good thing to try to help other people. I am
one of those guys that pulls over and says, hey,
you guys, okay, if the car stopped on the side
of the road, I may not be able to help
because I'm certainly not a mechanic call it anyway, but
if there's something going on that I can help with,
I'm certainly happy to do that. It's a mindset thing.
I guess it's part of this being a community. And
if we all try to help each other, try to
find a way. I really believe in trying to find
a way you stay to be kind. If you start
out the day saying I'm going to try to day
to be kind to somebody. It may be nothing more
than a smile and a hello, it may be more
than that. I don't know what the opportunity is going
to be, but there's always an opportunity out there. I think, no,
that's not true. I know that you can change your environment.
Your attitude and the way you treat other people changes
the environment that you're in, this bubble of existence around yourself.
And if you start the day saying I'm going to
be kind, I'm going to try to find a way
to help somebody, I'm going to smile, I'm going to
be happy. You determine that, and sure there are things
that can happen. You go, oh darn it, now, this
thing happened to that thing but you also you can't
control that, but you can't control the way you react
to things. And so just my philosophy i'm kind of
sharing this with you is I like to start off
each day with Okay, I'm going to be kind today.
I'm going to try to find a way to help
somebody if at all possible, or just be pleasant and
it permeates the day, and frankly, for me, it's very
selfish on my part. It makes my day better. Yet
maybe it makes somebody else's day better too. But hey, look,
I'm going to be selfish about it. I'm going to
be kind to other people because I like the way
it makes me feel. Well. I know, maybe a weird
thought for some people. I don't know if you got
a thought on that. By all means, give me a
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you'd enjoy what we're doing over there. Let's grab Hank
online too. Out of Greensboro, North Carolina. Hello Hank. What's
this about you belonging to a country club?
Speaker 8: Oh?
Speaker 10: I wish I belonged. I was there called Blackstones called
Blackstone's Armory down in Charlotte, and they have both a
public and a country club range they I went down
there for the Bull Armory experience was introducing a new pistol,
and the place was wonderful and the people there were
super nice. I wish I had the money to belong
but it's also in another city, so it would be
kind of hard for me to visit on a regular basis. Yeah,
I'm sorry.
Speaker 3: It was It was a good experience.
Speaker 10: Oh yes, Oh yes, I got to meet people from Armory.
I got to meet a lot of the people from Blackstone,
and in fact meant the manager of Blackstone, a really
nice man, and it went so nice and so smooth.
I enjoyed the heck out of it. Like I said,
I wished the money to join, but it's a little
out of my out of my league.
Speaker 3: So the question is, did you end up buying one
of the bull Armory guns?
Speaker 10: Oh, those are a little out of my league as well.
I wish I had the money for one of those.
Speaker 3: They are priced. They're very nice, but they are priced,
that's for sure.
Speaker 10: But you got to drive a tack driver. It was amazing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, they're just amazed. Well, you know what, it's
a nineteen eleven, even though it's maybe a double stack,
but it's still a nineteen eleven.
Speaker 10: Yes it is, Yes, it is. It was wonderful.
Speaker 3: Well, all right, good range of part there. I appreciate that, sir. Yeah,
I love to talk about twenty eleven. Yeah, the nineteen elevens.
You know, nobody wants more to those. They're old fashioned. Yeah,
but I got twenty eleven. It's the same gun, just
with a little bit wider grip. Okay, why do you
like it? For the same reason we've liked the twenty
the nineteen elevens for more than one hundred years. Great trigger,
great grip angle. John Brownie was genius invented this gun.
If you don't have one, you should. I'm just gonna
say it. There it is, And people are why would
I want one of those? Well, I can't tell you. You
got to go shoot one, fine one. Get a buddy
to take you out, let him, you know, have him,
let you shoot his gun. A nineteen eleven or twenty eleven.
Either way, He's just a different kind of gun. Not
that other guns aren't great. I mentioned earlier the Smith
and West M and P medal. Love that gun. I
have several P three sixty five's great platform. The Legion
is just an amazing gun. The Ruger RXm inexpensive five
hundred dollars gun shoots like crazy, incredibly accurate. Love the
way it feels. It's a great carry gun and arrange
gun as well. We are so blessed right now. It's
an amazing time. All these wonderful guns we have available.
I would just say this, don't settle, keep trying them.
Go to different gun stores, try different ranges. If you
can rent them, get your hands on them. If it
doesn't feel exactly right, go pick up another one. Find
something different, Try the different inserts and the different palm
swells and the different backstraps. Find one that fits your
hand before you pick it up, and you go, oh,
I like that. That's the one. You put your money out.
We have so many choices now. In the meantime, get
out to the race. Take some friends with you, Invite
some strangers, people you know from work, or people just
meet here and there, say hey, I want to go
study with me. Chances are they're going to go, and
then you would have done something wonderful for the Second Amendment.
And don't forget be kind,