1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:05,559 Speaker 1: Thirteen rounds, featherweight frame, magpull grip that holds without printing, 2 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:11,679 Ruger LCP Max with Magpul EHG the pocket pistol perfected 3 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:14,080 Carrie Moore. Carry Confident. 4 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:18,559 Speaker 2: Upgrade your optic with Hollisen, where innovation meets precision. With 5 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:22,160 fifty thousand hours of battery life, shake away technology and 6 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:24,839 a solar failsafe, your optic is always ready when you 7 00:00:24,879 --> 00:00:27,640 are holosen, confidence in every shot. 8 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:33,799 Speaker 3: Well, welcome back to gun Talk, Tom Greshamir. We to 9 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:36,759 talk about almost anything that has to do with guns 10 00:00:36,799 --> 00:00:42,159 and accessories and EDC. Everyday, Carrie, basically the things we 11 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:45,520 do in terms of keeping ourselves safe. And a company 12 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:47,759 that's been doing that for a long time, and frankly 13 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:50,359 I have been a big fan user of their products. 14 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:52,960 Fact on, Carrie, at least one of their products every 15 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:56,240 single day is Surefire I guarantee. Well, let me just check, yep, 16 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:58,679 it's there. It's in my pocket right now, Always got 17 00:00:58,679 --> 00:01:01,880 my Surefire stiletto with me. Joining us right now is 18 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:04,640 Trevor Usterrov Trevor, I appreciate you being here. I mean 19 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:06,480 I am a huge fan of what you guys do. 20 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, thanks Tom. 21 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 3: I tell people if you start carrying a good flashlight, 22 00:01:12,599 --> 00:01:15,439 you will be amazed and how often you use it 23 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:18,719 throughout the day, just for little things that you never 24 00:01:18,799 --> 00:01:19,959 imagined before. 25 00:01:19,719 --> 00:01:20,680 Speaker 4: Right, I agree. 26 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:22,680 Speaker 3: I mean it's like, Okay, I'm looking inside of my 27 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:25,760 bag and I'm looking for something in my backpack or 28 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:29,719 in my briefcase or underneath the bed, or it's like, oh, 29 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:31,719 I got a light, I could go check out that out. 30 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:35,519 It's always there and always handy. What is it about, 31 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:39,079 Surefi and you got your start in lights? How do 32 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:41,040 you guys make such good lights? 33 00:01:41,439 --> 00:01:47,079 Speaker 5: Everything for us is American source Materials, American made. All 34 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:49,640 the people that are working from sort of the machine 35 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:52,480 shop all the way into production, they're all on the 36 00:01:52,519 --> 00:01:54,879 same page of our mission statement of making the best 37 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:58,280 product we can. Whether it's for the civilian user or 38 00:01:58,359 --> 00:02:02,200 the least or the military end user. We're trying to 39 00:02:02,239 --> 00:02:05,640 make the best illumination product we can just to keep 40 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:09,000 everybody safe, and in turn, that makes great everyday carry 41 00:02:09,039 --> 00:02:12,199 lights that they're not always used for defensive purposes, but 42 00:02:12,199 --> 00:02:14,719 they're definitely useful every day for finding keys or your 43 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:17,280 kids or your dogs or whatever else is out there. 44 00:02:17,599 --> 00:02:20,159 Speaker 3: Yeah, it is amazing how often you use it that way. 45 00:02:20,199 --> 00:02:23,840 You mentioned you're making products for law enforcement and for military, 46 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:27,000 and I kind of get the impression that when you're 47 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:32,280 making products for them, whether it's a light or weapon 48 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:35,159 light or a suppressor, it's got to be made tough. 49 00:02:35,199 --> 00:02:37,360 It's got to be made so that it really lasts. 50 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:39,520 People have betting their lives on it. But we on 51 00:02:39,599 --> 00:02:42,439 our side, who are not going into harm's way on purpose, 52 00:02:42,879 --> 00:02:44,840 we get the benefit of that. Yeah. 53 00:02:44,879 --> 00:02:49,039 Speaker 5: We put some of these lights through intense testing, whether 54 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:53,319 it's freezing them below extreme temperatures or extreme heats. They 55 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:57,479 get thrown in salt baths, shaker tables, all these crazy things. 56 00:02:57,240 --> 00:02:59,039 Speaker 4: That I would never do. It's in my pocket. It 57 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:00,840 lives such a easy life. 58 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a huge part of what we want to 59 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:09,280 accomplish is making those people safe for that intense job 60 00:03:09,319 --> 00:03:11,919 that they do, and you know, keeping everybody safe for 61 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:14,719 bringing them home from whatever deployment they're on. 62 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:17,159 Speaker 3: All right, So I just went to the website. People 63 00:03:17,159 --> 00:03:20,919 can check it out Surefire sure surefire dot com. And 64 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:23,800 I did not know about this product. This is one 65 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:25,840 of the coolest things. I didn't know if you have 66 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:28,599 any of them left, But it's the red white and 67 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:33,159 blue limited edition Stiletto Pro That is so outrageous. 68 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, it was two hundred and fifty years of you know, 69 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:39,520 America's birthday there, So for fourth of July, we tried 70 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:42,159 to do something fun and I do believe they are 71 00:03:42,199 --> 00:03:44,759 still in stock and ready to purchase if you want one. 72 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, because a limited to like a thousand units, I 73 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:48,039 think is what I saw. 74 00:03:48,759 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 5: Very limited pieces, but super cool, super fun. We just 75 00:03:52,439 --> 00:03:55,439 try to do something different to celebrate two hundred and 76 00:03:55,439 --> 00:03:56,879 fifty years of our amazing country. 77 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:59,639 Speaker 3: Yeah. Pretty neat stuff, all right. I know you used 78 00:03:59,639 --> 00:04:02,280 to work a customer service You heard stories about people 79 00:04:02,639 --> 00:04:05,039 using these things in various ways and saying, you know, 80 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:08,680 something happened to it, Is it still good or is 81 00:04:08,719 --> 00:04:11,560 it covered? You got to tell at least one or 82 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:12,520 two of those stories. 83 00:04:13,439 --> 00:04:13,719 Speaker 4: Yeah. 84 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:17,079 Speaker 5: I started in the sales department there and customer service, 85 00:04:17,079 --> 00:04:19,000 and then I quickly moved to our warranty department. 86 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 4: So I've seen a lot of interesting things. Yeah. 87 00:04:22,879 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 5: A story that kind of pops up as a swat 88 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:29,680 officer had a knife wielding suspect swing the knife at 89 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:33,040 him and as he was raising his rifle, the light 90 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:35,480 sort of caught the knife and deflected it in a 91 00:04:35,519 --> 00:04:37,600 direction that kept him safe and he was able to 92 00:04:38,199 --> 00:04:40,839 apprehend the suspect there and not get hurt. And the 93 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:44,399 light definitely took it without any sort of issues there 94 00:04:44,439 --> 00:04:47,120 and was still on and working and got him in 95 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:50,319 his team behind him safe and just an interesting thing. 96 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:53,680 We see a lot of crazy stories from lights being 97 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:58,160 shot or being used in extreme environments like fires and 98 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:01,000 still turning on and still working getting those people safe. 99 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:02,839 Speaker 4: It's really cool to see. 100 00:05:03,399 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 3: It really is part of your life saving gear, isn't it. 101 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 4: That's why we try so hard to make a good product. 102 00:05:10,959 --> 00:05:13,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm just thinking that this thing could save you 103 00:05:13,759 --> 00:05:17,319 one hundred thousand dollars. What are you talking about, Well, 104 00:05:18,199 --> 00:05:21,120 if you don't have to shoot somebody, it can save 105 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:23,959 you one hundred thousand dollars right there. And a lot 106 00:05:23,959 --> 00:05:27,040 of times hitting somebody with a thousand lumens of light 107 00:05:28,319 --> 00:05:30,040 just stops them in their tracks. 108 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree. Definitely, being able to see what. 109 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:36,319 Speaker 5: You're looking at and you know that could be a 110 00:05:36,439 --> 00:05:39,360 huge choice, and whether you shoot or not shoot is 111 00:05:39,399 --> 00:05:42,839 extremely important for us. That's why we make these really 112 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:46,160 cool products and advocate for having weapon lights and handheld 113 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:47,240 lights in your pockets. 114 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:50,600 Speaker 3: I'm also thinking that there are places where you cannot 115 00:05:50,639 --> 00:05:54,879 go with your gun, but having this gives you one 116 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:58,360 more option once again, hitting somebody with this with the 117 00:05:58,399 --> 00:06:01,680 bright light stunts, if you can buy yourself three to 118 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:04,839 five seconds of somebody being blinded by the light, you 119 00:06:04,879 --> 00:06:08,120 can boogy out of there and no longer in danger. 120 00:06:08,519 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, I agree. An exit plan is always a good one, 121 00:06:11,519 --> 00:06:11,839 all right. 122 00:06:11,879 --> 00:06:13,759 Speaker 3: So you were telling me you've got a new suppressor. 123 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:16,160 You got to tell me about this, Yeah, we do. 124 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:20,199 Speaker 5: It's our new Socom for series suppressor. Still a low 125 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:23,800 back pressure can for us. If you've seen the suppressor 126 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:26,600 that was before it, the RC three, you would probably 127 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:30,680 be familiar with that low back pressure. Low back pressure, 128 00:06:31,519 --> 00:06:34,959 less gas coming into the weapon system is overall healthy 129 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:38,639 for us. Not breathing in those toxic gases easier on 130 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:42,560 the weapon systems. It helps prolong the life of our 131 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:45,360 bullet carrier groups and all that kind of stuff. But 132 00:06:45,439 --> 00:06:49,000 the front end of the Socom Force suppressor looks much different. 133 00:06:49,199 --> 00:06:53,079 We've updated the flash performance all while still keeping that 134 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:53,959 low back pressure. 135 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:55,519 Speaker 4: So it's a full inkinel can. 136 00:06:56,000 --> 00:07:00,279 Speaker 5: It's super durable that people know and love about our press. 137 00:07:00,759 --> 00:07:03,680 The thing is going to last a very long time, 138 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:07,360 but it's going to be extremely well with flash mitigation 139 00:07:07,959 --> 00:07:11,040 and low back pressure, all while keeping the sound reduction 140 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:12,959 relatively the same as the others. 141 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:17,519 Speaker 3: So what do you see in in suppressor sales now? 142 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:19,120 And now that we're not having to pay the two 143 00:07:19,199 --> 00:07:21,360 hundred dollars text? Did that free up a lot of 144 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:23,480 people say okay, now I'll go ahead and buy one. 145 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:27,959 Speaker 5: Yeah, we've definitely seen an uptick in suppressor purchases. If 146 00:07:27,959 --> 00:07:30,279 it's easier to get them, that's great because we want 147 00:07:30,319 --> 00:07:31,279 more people to have them. 148 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 4: It's definitely easier on all of our ears. 149 00:07:34,199 --> 00:07:38,199 Speaker 3: Yep. Yeah, not just the shooter, other people at the 150 00:07:38,279 --> 00:07:40,680 range and the other people around you. They appreciate it 151 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:43,879 as well. All right, So if you wanted to tell somebody, look, 152 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:46,959 I work at Surefire and this is what you ought 153 00:07:46,959 --> 00:07:48,160 to know about my company. 154 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:51,759 Speaker 5: Everybody is on the same page about making the best 155 00:07:51,759 --> 00:07:55,160 product we can. We know where these lights are going, 156 00:07:55,279 --> 00:07:58,360 we know where the suppressors are going. They're going in 157 00:07:58,399 --> 00:08:01,800 the hands of people that do a very extremely dangerous jobs. 158 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:03,800 So we want to keep them as safe as possible. 159 00:08:03,839 --> 00:08:07,079 And the one thing that is very cool is everybody 160 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:10,160 from just the C and C manufacturing all the way 161 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:12,319 through production to sales. 162 00:08:11,959 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 4: To the warranty. 163 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:15,879 Speaker 5: Guys, we're all on that same page and that's very important, 164 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:18,120 I think. And everything's made in America and that's very 165 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:22,399 important to us too, like American source materials, American manufacturing 166 00:08:22,519 --> 00:08:26,160 keeps jobs in America and we're extremely proud about that. 167 00:08:26,399 --> 00:08:28,439 Speaker 3: Basically, make the best product you can, and then figure 168 00:08:28,439 --> 00:08:30,480 out where the price has to be, but don't worry 169 00:08:30,519 --> 00:08:33,120 about trying to manufacture or design it. 170 00:08:33,159 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 4: To a price exactly. 171 00:08:34,919 --> 00:08:37,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, there you go, Trevor. I appreciate your time. I mean, 172 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:40,159 I love your products, and I'm not kidding. I usually 173 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:42,919 have one sometimes too sure fire flash lights in my 174 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:45,480 pocket at all times and I use them all the time, 175 00:08:45,519 --> 00:08:48,840 and I have given a number of them away. I 176 00:08:48,879 --> 00:08:51,000 mean I just wait for the sales and buy them 177 00:08:51,039 --> 00:08:54,440 and then give them away and everybody just really appreciates it, 178 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:57,960 just like, oh man, it's a surefire that is so cool. Yeah. 179 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 5: I appreciate you, Tom. You guys are always so and 180 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:02,440 so fun. Thank you for having me on the show. 181 00:09:02,639 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 3: You bet all. 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The RXAM is ready because when it's go time, 230 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:38,440 you won't have time. 231 00:11:50,399 --> 00:11:52,679 Speaker 3: All right, now is your time. You can give me 232 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:54,840 a call talk about what pretty much anything has to 233 00:11:54,879 --> 00:11:58,679 do with guns. Eighty six six Talk Gun also known 234 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:03,399 as Tom Talk. It'll get you in here. Got this 235 00:12:03,879 --> 00:12:07,960 email just a minute ago from Benny, but he says, 236 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:11,919 a great show again, Tom appreciate it. Says we've got 237 00:12:11,919 --> 00:12:14,360 a guy called earlier. We were talking about a guy 238 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:16,960 who carries two twenty two long rifle pistols. He says, 239 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:21,799 I have always been faithful to the twenty two magnum, 240 00:12:22,639 --> 00:12:26,200 knowing that with proper shop placement it wouldn't let me down. 241 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:31,840 Please share your thoughts on the twenty two Magnum. Well, Benny, 242 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:34,159 I like between two mag I think it's a heck 243 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:39,279 of a good cartridge. There are some very knowledgeable people 244 00:12:39,759 --> 00:12:45,720 I know who carry revolvers in twenty two magnum, and 245 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:48,159 you know, I get it. People say, well, you know, 246 00:12:48,159 --> 00:12:50,519 why wouldn't you carry thirty eight? Why wouldn't you care? Yeah, yeah, yeah, 247 00:12:50,519 --> 00:12:54,200 it's all choices. But honestly, one or even two. I 248 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:58,480 know people who carry two revolvers. If you had six 249 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:02,919 or eight shot twenty two Magnum revolver, first of all, 250 00:13:02,919 --> 00:13:06,159 you got very little recoiled and there are some pretty 251 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:09,360 good defensive loads now which we didn't have twenty years 252 00:13:09,399 --> 00:13:14,200 ago in twenty two magnum. I you know, it's it's 253 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:18,840 a viable choice. Is it the right choice? And not 254 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:23,679 sure there is such a thing. I mean, whatever the 255 00:13:23,759 --> 00:13:25,879 choice is, if you know how to use it, and 256 00:13:25,919 --> 00:13:28,399 you choose it and you carry it, it's the right 257 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:32,600 choice for you. Is a three eighty the right choice? Well, 258 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:35,759 it is for some people. I was just telling my 259 00:13:35,919 --> 00:13:39,879 wife about the Smith and Weston Bodyguard two point zero. 260 00:13:40,279 --> 00:13:42,000 I said, you know, I think I'd like you to 261 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:44,840 try this gun because she has trouble with working slide 262 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:48,080 and the Smith easy works really well for her. Said, 263 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:50,440 but you know, you got to try this. It's smaller, 264 00:13:51,039 --> 00:13:54,320 it's a three eighty three work fine, you can work 265 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:56,200 the slide on it, so we're going to get her 266 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:58,399 to try that at the range. I have one of 267 00:13:58,399 --> 00:14:03,120 those in so we'll do that. So three eighty twenty 268 00:14:03,159 --> 00:14:05,960 two twenty two magnum, I don't let me put the 269 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:09,440 call out. Is there anybody out there who carries a 270 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:12,559 twenty two or a twenty two magnum as your regular 271 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:14,600 defensive gun. If so, I'd love to hear from them 272 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:17,240 to give me a call at tom Talk gun. On 273 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:21,799 the subject of flipping people off, I've mentioned that a 274 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:28,000 couple of times today, and Robert says, as driving instructor 275 00:14:28,039 --> 00:14:30,320 tells his students, every time you get in a car 276 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:32,639 and before you start the engine, you got to tell 277 00:14:32,679 --> 00:14:37,879 yourself something. My obligation is to get there safely, not 278 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:44,080 on time. It is a great point. Being on time 279 00:14:44,799 --> 00:14:49,200 is nice, but it's not important. I mean, look, I'm 280 00:14:49,639 --> 00:14:54,759 the punctual guy. I hate to be late, and I 281 00:14:54,799 --> 00:14:57,960 hate it when people are late to an appointment. And yet, 282 00:14:58,039 --> 00:15:01,320 having said that, if something happens, if you would have 283 00:15:01,399 --> 00:15:06,080 to jeopardize safety to try to get there a few 284 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:11,360 minutes earlier, well that's a bad trade off. Driving fast 285 00:15:11,919 --> 00:15:16,080 not a good way to go, Certainly, driving erradically, passing 286 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:19,759 people flipping people off all the rest of it. No, 287 00:15:20,519 --> 00:15:23,639 your obligation is semping to get there safely, not necessarily 288 00:15:23,679 --> 00:15:27,799 on time, he says. Before flipping somebody off, act as 289 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:31,120 if these two things are factual. Number one, react as 290 00:15:31,159 --> 00:15:34,720 if you're in a Ford fiesta and the other guys 291 00:15:34,759 --> 00:15:38,039 at an F one fifty. He says. Also number two, 292 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:42,080 you the flipper have a metal finger and the flip 293 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:47,679 fee has a gun. Just it's all about getting your 294 00:15:47,679 --> 00:15:54,120 head right. Far too many people, I am afraid, buy 295 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:57,039 a gun for self defense and think they've done what 296 00:15:57,039 --> 00:16:02,399 they need to do. Now I have a gun. Yeah, 297 00:16:02,639 --> 00:16:04,720 we call that the ante just to get into the game. 298 00:16:04,879 --> 00:16:08,360 That just gets you started. You gotta be good with 299 00:16:08,399 --> 00:16:09,879 the gun, and you got to know how to shoot it. 300 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:13,720 But it goes more than that. You have to know 301 00:16:15,039 --> 00:16:22,559 de escalation techniques. You really seriously need to get training. 302 00:16:23,679 --> 00:16:25,679 And I'm just afraid that a lot of people when 303 00:16:25,679 --> 00:16:28,519 I talk about training, think I mean going to the 304 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:31,960 range and shooting practicing. That's not what I'm talking about. 305 00:16:32,799 --> 00:16:34,360 And I tried to figure out how to explain this. 306 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:37,879 I think this is the way when you're shooting at 307 00:16:37,879 --> 00:16:41,440 the range by yourself or with your buddies. That's practice. 308 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:44,240 For it to be training, there must be a trainer. 309 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:48,960 There must be an instructor. You go and take a class, 310 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:53,080 and that's training, and then you use the training to 311 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:57,720 teach you things that you can then go in practice. 312 00:16:58,039 --> 00:17:02,600 For the most part, you cannot teach yourself this stuff. 313 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:06,440 And I know that's not exactly one hundred percent true. 314 00:17:07,319 --> 00:17:09,480 There are things you can learn, and you can teach yourself, 315 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:12,960 but for the most part, you would be so much 316 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:15,559 better off going and taking a real class on this stuff. 317 00:17:20,519 --> 00:17:23,680 You know. I'm just looking at the stories that are 318 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:26,160 coming out, and we've got things happening all the time. 319 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:29,640 I wouldn't expect this out of Nebraska, but then again, 320 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:33,759 I guess it's everywhere. Lincoln, Nebraska is saying that it 321 00:17:33,799 --> 00:17:40,680 has the ability to prohibit carry in parks and on trails. 322 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:42,960 Gun owners are suing them, saying, no, you don't have 323 00:17:43,039 --> 00:17:47,400 that authority, and Lincoln says, yeah, we do. Well, the 324 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:52,240 way the law is written, private owners can keep people 325 00:17:52,279 --> 00:17:55,559 off if they're carrying their guns. Okay, that's private ownership. 326 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:59,680 Lincoln is saying, well, we own the parks and we 327 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:06,960 own the trails. No, you do not. The people own 328 00:18:07,039 --> 00:18:12,200 the parks and the people own the trails. It is 329 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:19,160 not privately owned. They're acting these city is saying we 330 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:21,920 can keep people off of there. Well, this all came 331 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:27,759 about when Nebraska passed constitutional carrying twenty twenty three, So 332 00:18:27,839 --> 00:18:30,240 now you don't need a permit to carry, so anybody 333 00:18:30,279 --> 00:18:33,720 can carry. So the city back to two cities, Lincoln 334 00:18:33,839 --> 00:18:38,039 and shoot the other. I'm gonna pull a blank hair 335 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:43,839 again in just a second. They passed laws that said 336 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:49,720 we can keep the people off of those will claim 337 00:18:49,759 --> 00:18:54,200 that these are private property. So all right here it 338 00:18:54,279 --> 00:18:57,359 is Omaha and Lincoln. Well, Omaha got a ruling Crown 339 00:18:57,400 --> 00:18:59,240 judge that says, no, you can't do that. Lincoln, we're 340 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:05,160 still fighting it. So yet this is just another example 341 00:19:06,559 --> 00:19:08,519 that we can be winning all the way up to 342 00:19:08,559 --> 00:19:11,880 the Supreme Court, and there are still going to be 343 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:14,720 battles like this, and the other would be state battles 344 00:19:14,839 --> 00:19:18,960 or even be city battles where a city decides we're 345 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:25,079 going to prevent our citizens from being able to protect themselves, 346 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:29,160 from being able to increase their safety. We're gonna tell 347 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:31,839 you you can't carry in parks and you can't carry 348 00:19:31,839 --> 00:19:39,119 on trails and I'm sorry. We never get to relax. 349 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:42,240 We never get to say, well, gee, we won that one. 350 00:19:42,319 --> 00:19:44,839 I guess we're good. We have Trump in, we have 351 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:48,480 a good or a better department of Justice, not a good, 352 00:19:48,599 --> 00:19:53,759 but a better department of justice. We haven't improved atf 353 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:57,640 and we're getting good decisions out of the Supreme Court, 354 00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:01,640 and yet at the same time we still have to 355 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:06,200 fight these things all the time. It's all just a 356 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:08,680 matter of making a commitment, and you got to do that, 357 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:15,640 all right. Switching over, we are weeks away in some cases, 358 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:19,680 maybe a couple of months away funding seasons. I got 359 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:20,880 to get out to the range, and we try to 360 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:24,680 get out there this week. I have two, maybe three 361 00:20:24,799 --> 00:20:27,559 rifles that I need to get ready for the rifle 362 00:20:27,599 --> 00:20:31,240 season that I got one rifle that I haven't shot yet. 363 00:20:31,279 --> 00:20:33,839 I bought it about five four or five months ago, 364 00:20:34,599 --> 00:20:37,240 and for whatever reason events conspired, I haven't got it 365 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:41,759 out to the range. It is did you ever do this? 366 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:45,240 You ever buy a gun that you actually have trouble 367 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:48,559 explaining why you bought it. This is one of those. 368 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:53,799 And yeah, I know, I know I wanted it is 369 00:20:54,039 --> 00:20:57,079 reason enough, and it is I wanted it, so I 370 00:20:57,160 --> 00:21:01,400 bought it, but as far as justification of what's it for, 371 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:05,559 I don't know. It's a rifle in three seven five 372 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:09,480 h and H, which is a great caliber, wonderful around 373 00:21:09,519 --> 00:21:12,599 the world. You can hunt pretty much anything you want 374 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:14,680 to hunt on the planet with it. There are some 375 00:21:14,759 --> 00:21:16,920 African nations where you're not allowed to use that on 376 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:19,359 elephant and such, but it would be enough. It would 377 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:24,839 do the job. It's big, it's powerful, it kicks, which 378 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:28,200 also makes it fun. I've had three seven vice before. 379 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:33,640 This is a German rifle heim h e YM, good 380 00:21:33,759 --> 00:21:37,799 quality Mauser type. I haven't shot it yet, so I'm 381 00:21:37,799 --> 00:21:39,480 gonna take it out there. I'm gonna use one of 382 00:21:39,519 --> 00:21:42,759 the bog tripods to shoot it rather than sitting off 383 00:21:42,759 --> 00:21:46,200 a bench better. I think shooting it standing up with 384 00:21:46,279 --> 00:21:50,160 the rest just from a recoil standpoint leaning over on 385 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:52,400 a bench rest, it can really beat you up with 386 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:56,720 a heavy kicker like this. And of course everybody always says, well, 387 00:21:56,680 --> 00:22:00,319 what did you get that for? I guess the proper answer, 388 00:22:00,319 --> 00:22:02,160 just because I wanted it and I think it'll be 389 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:04,279 fun to shoot. What are you gonna use it for? 390 00:22:05,039 --> 00:22:08,240 Not a thing, just going to the range and having fun. 391 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:10,839 And maybe I'll own it for a year, Maybe I'll 392 00:22:10,839 --> 00:22:12,920 have it for five years, maybe I'll have it forever. 393 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:17,160 I don't know, but it just you know what, bottom eye, 394 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:20,200 It makes me happy. It makes me happy being able 395 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:22,119 to buy it. It makes me happy to be able 396 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:23,960 to take it out for rains. Let my buddy shoot 397 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:26,240 it with me. Do you have a gun like that 398 00:22:26,279 --> 00:22:29,119 where you're thinking, I'm not exactly sure why I own it, 399 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:32,359 but I shouldn't have liked owning it. If do share 400 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:41,079 the story, you're right Back. A little while back, I 401 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:43,119 was mentioning that if you have a long gun for 402 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:45,359 self defense, a shotgun or a riflele, you should have 403 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:47,920 a sling on it. I think a lot of people 404 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:50,400 don't because they haven't thought about it. They don't understand 405 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:52,720 what you do with it. And over on ex Anthony 406 00:22:52,799 --> 00:22:54,240 was asking me, said, well, what good is a sling 407 00:22:54,319 --> 00:22:57,720 going to do in my house besides getting hooked on 408 00:22:57,759 --> 00:23:01,319 a doorknob? I get it, you don't know what you 409 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:04,279 don't know. That's why you go to a class to 410 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:06,799 learn this stuff. Or what good is a sling gonna do? 411 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:06,920 Speaker 8: Me? 412 00:23:07,039 --> 00:23:12,359 Speaker 3: Okay, you gotta sling on your ar or your shotgun 413 00:23:12,519 --> 00:23:19,759 either one not gonna use it for shooting necessarily. But 414 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:22,119 a sling on a long gun is like a holster 415 00:23:23,039 --> 00:23:24,680 for your handgun. It gives you a place to put 416 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:27,480 it when you're not using it. Otherwise you got to 417 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:29,240 what are you gonna do? Put it down, hold it 418 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:31,799 in one hand. Maybe you need two hands for something. 419 00:23:31,799 --> 00:23:34,640 Maybe you need two hands to go and grab your 420 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:36,759 kids and get them out of the house. Or you 421 00:23:36,839 --> 00:23:40,640 just sling your gun and go. You can sling it 422 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:42,480 on the shoulders, You can sling in over your head 423 00:23:42,519 --> 00:23:44,359 and across. You can sling it muzzle up. You can 424 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:47,599 sling it muzzle down. Why would you do any of those? 425 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:49,759 Why would you choose one over the other. There are 426 00:23:49,799 --> 00:23:54,839 reasons why you would. Again, training go into a class 427 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:59,680 to teach you this stuff, and you're thinking, well, yeah, 428 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:02,240 but do I yes, you need a class like this. 429 00:24:03,599 --> 00:24:06,599 How are you going to go from I'm shooting my 430 00:24:06,799 --> 00:24:09,839 rifle to now I need to shoot my pistol. I'm 431 00:24:09,839 --> 00:24:13,839 gonna do a transition? How do you do that? Well, 432 00:24:13,839 --> 00:24:17,079 there are specific ways that you do that, and you 433 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:18,759 will do it in class, and you will shoot live 434 00:24:18,839 --> 00:24:23,000 fire and you'll transition from your long gun to your handgun, 435 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:26,839 to which a lot of people say, well, I can't 436 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:30,559 ever imagine. Yeah, I know you can't ever imagine it 437 00:24:30,599 --> 00:24:35,960 because you haven't really exercised your imagination. Need you go 438 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,559 to some place where they will stretch your imagination as 439 00:24:38,559 --> 00:24:43,039 well as given you more skills. Let's go grab Larry 440 00:24:43,039 --> 00:24:45,559 on line two out of Arkansas. Hello Larry, you're on 441 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:46,519 Gun Talk. What's up? 442 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:48,279 Speaker 8: Hey, Tom? 443 00:24:48,319 --> 00:24:48,759 Speaker 3: How are you? 444 00:24:49,559 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 8: I had a range before about my NEWSIG three six five, 445 00:24:54,519 --> 00:24:58,279 But in the beginning of your your show today you 446 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:01,119 talk to the guy about delayed and. 447 00:25:03,839 --> 00:25:05,039 Speaker 3: Just denied. 448 00:25:07,559 --> 00:25:11,079 Speaker 8: Being able to buy the gun. I buy guns from 449 00:25:11,079 --> 00:25:13,359 time to time, not as many as you by any means. 450 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:15,720 But I got delayed for I don't know. It was 451 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:17,400 a couple of hours before I could pick up my gun, 452 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:19,960 and I had no idea why. It's just it's just 453 00:25:20,039 --> 00:25:21,759 a strange thing, and I wanted to mention that. But 454 00:25:22,039 --> 00:25:25,039 I do love my new three sixty five. I've heard 455 00:25:25,039 --> 00:25:27,640 you talk positive about it several times. I bought a 456 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:30,079 Hellcat when I first moved to Arkansas. I moved to 457 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:35,279 the Free State of Arkansas from California. I never did 458 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:38,960 I never did really like the Hellcat. I always carried 459 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:42,160 a River LT nine F but the capacity was just 460 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:44,880 you know, seven in and one in the chambers, just 461 00:25:45,599 --> 00:25:47,839 with the sake. I bought an ex and it carries 462 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:50,119 twelve plus one, so it's a great deal. But I 463 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:52,079 want to tell you about the range that I belonged to. 464 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:55,880 It's actually I don't belong to it. It's just at 465 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:57,960 the semi private range. Anybody can go out there. It's 466 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:01,839 down the donation type of thing. But I got involved 467 00:26:01,839 --> 00:26:04,599 with a group. It's out there once a month. Uh. 468 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:08,039 Two gentlemen, my consul the first name. I'm in a 469 00:26:08,079 --> 00:26:11,440 small little range. They're both instructors, certified. I believe in 470 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:14,319 our a certified instructors. We do it at the end 471 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:17,359 of the every the last Saturday of every month. We 472 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:21,119 run drills. You know, we come from bolster to the 473 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:25,440 to the center, math and under the head or things 474 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:27,079 like that. Would change it up all the time. Sometimes 475 00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:30,440 we're using timers, sometimes we don't. And we always finished 476 00:26:30,519 --> 00:26:35,000 up with a scenario. Yesterday's scenario was sitting in a chair, 477 00:26:35,759 --> 00:26:38,160 three bad guys and two good guys. Two good guys 478 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:41,839 in the front obscured the bad guys. Uh, so you 479 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:46,160 had to shift your you draw from seated position safely. 480 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:51,039 Of course they stressed safety one hundred percent, and I 481 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:55,480 kind of choked, and I wing, it's one of the 482 00:26:55,559 --> 00:27:02,359 good guys. Uh bad, that's right, that's I realized. I've 483 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:06,200 never drawn from a seated position and I've never actually 484 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:09,559 shot around the good guy, so to speak. And they're 485 00:27:09,599 --> 00:27:13,960 the hardboard cutouts with the center mass perforated. You know, 486 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:18,319 it's eta or something like that. Cardboards anyway, So I 487 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:20,480 kind of choked. I see, man, I need to work 488 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:22,839 on that. I've never drawn from the seated position before. 489 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:25,920 Something to do. And at that point then you get 490 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:29,599 up out of their transitioned to behind two blue barrels 491 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:31,640 covered and then you have two more bad guys that 492 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:35,079 you put three to the chest. That was our scenario yesterday. 493 00:27:35,079 --> 00:27:37,160 And we do that one at a time when we're 494 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:41,119 doing that otherwise, and there's about fifteen twenty people that 495 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,880 show up. There's never a charge. We once a year 496 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:46,720 kick in for the targets and such like that. They 497 00:27:46,799 --> 00:27:51,000 do it because Mike and Phil do this because there's 498 00:27:51,599 --> 00:27:54,559 second a guys and they really believe in our sport. 499 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:58,599 And I live in a very friendly gun area, which 500 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:02,319 is an amazing deal compared to California, where I moved 501 00:28:02,319 --> 00:28:03,519 from four years ago. 502 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:07,400 Speaker 3: So let me give you a couple of thoughts on this. Okay, Yeah, 503 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:10,279 most people have never thought about drawing from a seating position, 504 00:28:11,039 --> 00:28:13,440 so there's a move that you got to make there. 505 00:28:13,519 --> 00:28:15,880 The other is, if you're sitting at a table, you 506 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:17,720 got to be careful if you draw, and then you 507 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:21,000 could clunk your gun onto the underside of the table. 508 00:28:21,039 --> 00:28:23,160 So you have to actually work on bringing your gun 509 00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:26,319 really high, like next to you, under your armpit before 510 00:28:26,319 --> 00:28:28,680 you rotate down, and then bring it out over the 511 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:31,400 top of the table. Let me throw. I love what 512 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:33,839 you're doing. I love what they're doing because you end 513 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:36,720 up learning new things. But also you get a little 514 00:28:36,799 --> 00:28:39,359 bit of pressure because you got the watchful eye of 515 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:41,480 all your buddies out there watching you to do this. 516 00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:45,279 The thing I would suggest to you is this, if 517 00:28:45,279 --> 00:28:48,079 it's a brand new scenario, it's something you haven't practiced before. 518 00:28:49,039 --> 00:28:53,920 When you do it the first time, do it really slowly, 519 00:28:54,119 --> 00:28:59,079 like stupid slow, like running in molasses slow, and don't 520 00:28:59,079 --> 00:29:01,200 worry about the time. Don't worry about that at all. 521 00:29:01,599 --> 00:29:04,920 Just move slowly. Try to work on your movements you're 522 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:06,799 going to work your way around. You're not going to 523 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,480 shoot the good guys, you're going to do all that. 524 00:29:10,279 --> 00:29:12,240 I mean, I love what you're doing. And you guys 525 00:29:12,279 --> 00:29:15,680 are you're doing it right and putting this thing together. 526 00:29:15,759 --> 00:29:18,920 I mean, tell me you're just having fun doing this, 527 00:29:19,039 --> 00:29:19,400 aren't you. 528 00:29:20,319 --> 00:29:24,799 Speaker 8: It's absolutely like minded guys having a really and women. 529 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:28,640 There are three women with their husband's working last last week. 530 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:33,839 Sometimes there's no women, sometimes there are. It's like minded guys. 531 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:36,720 Everybody is very positive. And it's not all about the timers. 532 00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:39,160 There wasn't a timer on this scenario list at all. 533 00:29:39,359 --> 00:29:42,240 Sometimes the drills they do timers and stuff, but not 534 00:29:42,319 --> 00:29:44,160 every time. It's just they mix it up all the 535 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,920 time to keep it interesting and keep it fun. We 536 00:29:47,039 --> 00:29:50,400 work from three yards to back to ten yards and different, 537 00:29:50,559 --> 00:29:54,160 like I said, different drills all the time. And the 538 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:56,680 guys are just and it's so positant. It's never a 539 00:29:56,759 --> 00:29:59,160 judgmentble man, did you see what Larry? Did you know? 540 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:02,200 It's never that, Hey, they're really good, but you know 541 00:30:02,839 --> 00:30:04,359 such and such you could have done better. 542 00:30:04,839 --> 00:30:08,119 Speaker 3: And I'm betting you. I'm betting that. On the drive 543 00:30:08,319 --> 00:30:13,400 back and during the day you replayed that scenario. That's 544 00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:17,200 sitting scenario over and over in your head. You reshot 545 00:30:17,319 --> 00:30:19,480 that run over and over again, didn't you? 546 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:21,519 Speaker 8: Absolutely? 547 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:25,960 Speaker 3: Absolutely yeah, And there's a lot of learning and training 548 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:28,440 that takes place after the fact when you're doing that 549 00:30:28,839 --> 00:30:31,599 great range of port love you know, and look enjoy 550 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:34,240 that three sixty five. That is a great platform and 551 00:30:34,279 --> 00:30:36,519 all its variation from the little bitty one you know, 552 00:30:36,599 --> 00:30:39,680 to the fuse, to the macro to the legion to 553 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:43,200 all the different things they've done. What an incredibly successful 554 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:48,039 platform at Sega's had with that. Let's grab Chris and Stockton, California. 555 00:30:48,079 --> 00:30:51,559 Hey Chris, you're on gun Talk. What's up, Hi? Tom? 556 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:55,960 Speaker 9: Yeah, I'm looking at a Springfield Army echelon their their 557 00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:59,160 gear pack, and I'm looking at their four point zero 558 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:03,279 barrel getting that gear that the thing is once offered 559 00:31:03,319 --> 00:31:07,200 in a compensated barrel and one is a non compensated. 560 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:07,839 Speaker 10: Barrel nine millioneer. 561 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:11,200 Speaker 9: I'm wondering if there is a big difference as far 562 00:31:11,279 --> 00:31:14,799 as you know, handling and then also maybe gases blown 563 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:16,599 up over the Green Dots site. 564 00:31:17,079 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 3: If I go compensated a little bit with the gases, 565 00:31:21,319 --> 00:31:25,759 but you do definitely get a reduction and muzzle rise 566 00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:29,640 with a comp I mean it's noticeable, and for competition 567 00:31:29,839 --> 00:31:33,960 it's really helpful. If it's your carry gun, it probably 568 00:31:34,079 --> 00:31:38,200 is unnecessary. And I know people say, well it's faster. Yeah, 569 00:31:38,279 --> 00:31:40,559 I'm not sure that matters. The main thing is getting 570 00:31:40,559 --> 00:31:43,680 the first shot on target, and if it adds links 571 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:45,559 to the barrel, now you've got a whole story issue. 572 00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:49,559 Possibly it's personal preference, but I would say maybe yes 573 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:54,960 on competition or arrange and maybe judgment call your call 574 00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:59,640 on Concrokerry. Which way are you leaning at this point? 575 00:32:00,559 --> 00:32:03,680 Speaker 9: I was thinking concealed carry and it's the barrel is 576 00:32:03,799 --> 00:32:06,640 where it's compensated at it. It's not an extension at 577 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:07,519 the end of the barrel. 578 00:32:07,839 --> 00:32:10,720 Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, so our same length, that's not going to 579 00:32:10,759 --> 00:32:13,519 be a fact that Yeah, Honestly, I would say if 580 00:32:13,559 --> 00:32:15,720 you want the cop get the comp I think it'll 581 00:32:15,759 --> 00:32:17,160 be fine and I don't think it's going to be 582 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:20,759 an issue on your optic. You may have to clean 583 00:32:20,759 --> 00:32:22,440 your optic a little bit more if you're shooting a 584 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:24,400 good bit, but other than that, I think it's gonna 585 00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:26,160 be an issue. I think you'll enjoy it, will shoot 586 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:26,680 really well. 587 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:31,000 Speaker 9: Yeah, I've never shot a nine millimeter with a compensated 588 00:32:31,039 --> 00:32:32,640 so I just didn't know if there'd be a big 589 00:32:32,799 --> 00:32:36,160 difference or feeling or anything. But I'm kind I'm kind 590 00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:37,680 of thinking it might be fun to have. 591 00:32:38,319 --> 00:32:41,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, do us a favorite. You get the cop gun, 592 00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:44,119 shoot it, and then call us back and let us 593 00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:44,720 know what you think. 594 00:32:44,759 --> 00:32:49,039 Speaker 9: Okay, Oh, okay, sounds good. I'll run a gun store 595 00:32:49,119 --> 00:32:49,440 right now. 596 00:32:51,279 --> 00:32:53,160 Speaker 3: Good man, I like it. What you think there, Thank 597 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:56,599 you for the call. All right, our work here is done. 598 00:32:56,599 --> 00:32:58,920 We've sent somebody off to the gun store. Oh oh, 599 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:02,359 speaking of that, I am seeing some incredible sales. Just 600 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:06,359 saw anothering pop up a Smith and Wesson MMP, the 601 00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:10,400 metal version, which generally goes for I think retailer it's 602 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:13,000 a thousand bucks. And I just saw an ad for 603 00:33:13,079 --> 00:33:17,799 one online for like seven sixty seven seventy. I was 604 00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:21,519 just saying, there are some real deals out there. And 605 00:33:21,519 --> 00:33:24,559 when you're at the gun store, ask the folks at 606 00:33:24,559 --> 00:33:27,279 the gun store, look, are there any programs? Is there 607 00:33:27,319 --> 00:33:29,240 any way to get the price down. It's okay to 608 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:31,160 ask for a lotwer price. You can negotiate with a 609 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:34,279 gun store. Sometimes they will, sometimes they won't, but they 610 00:33:34,319 --> 00:33:36,920 may say oh yeah, we've got a rebate going that 611 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:39,519 you know you didn't know about. And say, look, there's 612 00:33:39,519 --> 00:33:42,599 a deal with these guys or Springfield or whoever has 613 00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:44,640 a deal. You buy the pistol and you get six 614 00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:48,759 magazines or whatever, ask them what kind of specials are 615 00:33:48,839 --> 00:33:51,279 going on, and see what you can get. I mean, 616 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:53,880 it is a great time to be buying guns right now. 617 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:57,079 Let me tell you there's some super deals. And obviously 618 00:33:57,079 --> 00:33:59,680 you got the mail order places, but if you can 619 00:34:00,359 --> 00:34:04,400 I understand. You know your gun store may not have 620 00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:06,599 the thing you're looking for. They can probably order it 621 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:10,639 for you. But just saying, but when you can, if 622 00:34:10,679 --> 00:34:14,760 you can shop at your local gun store, you know, 623 00:34:15,119 --> 00:34:17,480 it keeps them in business. And make sure that there's 624 00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:20,599 a gun store there with a gunsmith, and maybe arrange 625 00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:23,360 when you come back, because it's a tough way to 626 00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:27,480 make a business. Look, all small businesses are hard. If 627 00:34:27,519 --> 00:34:30,000 you've owned a business, you know what I'm talking about. 628 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:33,159 I mean, it's every day, it's getting the revenue in, 629 00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:36,519 it's taking care of the inventory, it's taking care of 630 00:34:36,559 --> 00:34:43,840 the payroll, insurance, taxes, all the rest of it. Things 631 00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:47,639 that maybe the mail order houses don't have. And I know, 632 00:34:47,639 --> 00:34:49,960 people say, well, it's not my job to subsidize them. 633 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:55,960 Well maybe, then again, maybe it is. If it's another 634 00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,960 twenty five bucks to buy a gun and you help 635 00:34:59,039 --> 00:35:03,400 keep your local gun store own business, is that worth it? 636 00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:06,320 And look, I get it, it's twenty five bucks, whatever 637 00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:08,599 it is. And some will say, yeah, nope, I'm not 638 00:35:08,639 --> 00:35:12,400 going to do that. Okay, that's your call. I kind 639 00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:16,519 of I go to this maybe differently from other people. 640 00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:23,000 I think it's really important for us all to try 641 00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:29,400 to make sure that we have a vibrant, strong firearms industry, 642 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:32,719 that we keep gunsmiths in business, and we keep gun 643 00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:36,599 stores in business. And yeah, I get the whole mail 644 00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:39,239 order deal and order any things online and then paying 645 00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:42,800 the transfer at the gun store, and maybe when you 646 00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:44,800 go in and if you do it that way, fine, 647 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:46,280 and you go into the gun store and you pay 648 00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:49,239 them the transfer fee to get their gun, maybe buy 649 00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:53,559 some stuff while you're there. I get it. Everybody's trying 650 00:35:53,599 --> 00:35:56,159 to save money, and everybody's squeezing the dollars as hard 651 00:35:56,159 --> 00:35:59,880 as you can. It's just it's a mindset that I have, 652 00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:03,159 just trying to help each other out. I don't know 653 00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:07,320 the other thing I would offer. We had a guy 654 00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:09,639 pulled over side of the road right in front of 655 00:36:09,639 --> 00:36:13,559 our house yesterday. I was actually out on the deck 656 00:36:13,639 --> 00:36:17,079 and it's like, you know, thirty yards down to the road. 657 00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:20,119 He said, you guys okay, he says yeah. He says, 658 00:36:20,159 --> 00:36:22,199 we got a part kind of He's got a skip 659 00:36:22,199 --> 00:36:25,639 plate fell off of his truck and it's dragging, and 660 00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:28,320 I said, okay, well, you know, I figured he's okay. 661 00:36:28,559 --> 00:36:31,760 A few minutes later, he comes up. He says, would 662 00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:34,119 you happen to have a socket wrench I need a 663 00:36:34,119 --> 00:36:36,840 ten milimeter socket wrench worker. He says, yeah, let me 664 00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:38,519 go grab it. So up went and grab a full 665 00:36:38,559 --> 00:36:41,480 socket wrench set, gave it to him, and he took 666 00:36:41,519 --> 00:36:45,079 off with it, and me thinking, you know, I'm sure 667 00:36:45,079 --> 00:36:47,599 it's gonna be fine. At the same time, he could 668 00:36:47,599 --> 00:36:49,320 get in this car and take my brand new du 669 00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:53,079 Walt socket wrench set and drive off with it. But 670 00:36:53,199 --> 00:36:55,239 I'm taking that chance just because I think it's a 671 00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:57,920 good thing to try to help other people. I am 672 00:36:58,000 --> 00:36:59,840 one of those guys that pulls over and says, hey, 673 00:37:00,119 --> 00:37:02,400 you guys, okay, if the car stopped on the side 674 00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:06,519 of the road, I may not be able to help 675 00:37:06,559 --> 00:37:09,679 because I'm certainly not a mechanic call it anyway, but 676 00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:11,920 if there's something going on that I can help with, 677 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:16,119 I'm certainly happy to do that. It's a mindset thing. 678 00:37:16,199 --> 00:37:24,039 I guess it's part of this being a community. And 679 00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:27,480 if we all try to help each other, try to 680 00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:30,719 find a way. I really believe in trying to find 681 00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:36,440 a way you stay to be kind. If you start 682 00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:38,679 out the day saying I'm going to try to day 683 00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:43,079 to be kind to somebody. It may be nothing more 684 00:37:43,119 --> 00:37:46,280 than a smile and a hello, it may be more 685 00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:47,960 than that. I don't know what the opportunity is going 686 00:37:48,039 --> 00:37:55,440 to be, but there's always an opportunity out there. I think, no, 687 00:37:55,639 --> 00:38:01,719 that's not true. I know that you can change your environment. 688 00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:08,039 Your attitude and the way you treat other people changes 689 00:38:08,119 --> 00:38:14,000 the environment that you're in, this bubble of existence around yourself. 690 00:38:15,079 --> 00:38:17,719 And if you start the day saying I'm going to 691 00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:19,719 be kind, I'm going to try to find a way 692 00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:22,320 to help somebody, I'm going to smile, I'm going to 693 00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:27,039 be happy. You determine that, and sure there are things 694 00:38:27,039 --> 00:38:29,440 that can happen. You go, oh darn it, now, this 695 00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:33,400 thing happened to that thing but you also you can't 696 00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:37,199 control that, but you can't control the way you react 697 00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:43,360 to things. And so just my philosophy i'm kind of 698 00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:46,440 sharing this with you is I like to start off 699 00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:48,599 each day with Okay, I'm going to be kind today. 700 00:38:48,599 --> 00:38:49,920 I'm going to try to find a way to help 701 00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:53,760 somebody if at all possible, or just be pleasant and 702 00:38:54,119 --> 00:38:57,519 it permeates the day, and frankly, for me, it's very 703 00:38:57,599 --> 00:39:01,199 selfish on my part. It makes my day better. Yet 704 00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:04,119 maybe it makes somebody else's day better too. But hey, look, 705 00:39:04,159 --> 00:39:05,719 I'm going to be selfish about it. I'm going to 706 00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:09,400 be kind to other people because I like the way 707 00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:12,639 it makes me feel. Well. I know, maybe a weird 708 00:39:12,639 --> 00:39:14,039 thought for some people. I don't know if you got 709 00:39:14,079 --> 00:39:15,519 a thought on that. By all means, give me a 710 00:39:15,559 --> 00:39:18,719 shout at Tom Talk Gun. I'm Tom Gresher and this 711 00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:28,719 is Gun Talk. Okay, just a couple of reminders. If 712 00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:30,639 you want to join us for the after show, give 713 00:39:30,679 --> 00:39:32,440 me a call right now at Tom Talk Gun. We'll 714 00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:34,639 get you in there. If you haven't heard the after 715 00:39:34,639 --> 00:39:37,559 show before, we'll shame on. You got to check it out. 716 00:39:37,639 --> 00:39:40,199 We're available wherever you get podcasts. Just look for Gun 717 00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:43,039 Talk or gun Talk Media, and of course the radio 718 00:39:43,079 --> 00:39:45,280 show that we're doing on radio stations right now becomes 719 00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:48,079 a podcast after this. We posted in a couple of 720 00:39:48,079 --> 00:39:50,280 hours after the end of the show, and of course 721 00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:52,880 we'd love for you to follow us over on Facebook. 722 00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:56,480 Look for gun Talk Media there and on x I 723 00:39:56,519 --> 00:39:59,719 Am at gun Talk there on Facebook. We're putting up 724 00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:02,360 a little a lot of videos these days and getting million, 725 00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:04,840 tens of millions of views over there, so I think 726 00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:07,519 you'd enjoy what we're doing over there. Let's grab Hank 727 00:40:07,559 --> 00:40:10,679 online too. Out of Greensboro, North Carolina. Hello Hank. What's 728 00:40:10,679 --> 00:40:12,559 this about you belonging to a country club? 729 00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:14,039 Speaker 8: Oh? 730 00:40:14,079 --> 00:40:19,039 Speaker 10: I wish I belonged. I was there called Blackstones called 731 00:40:19,079 --> 00:40:23,880 Blackstone's Armory down in Charlotte, and they have both a 732 00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:30,480 public and a country club range they I went down 733 00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:35,280 there for the Bull Armory experience was introducing a new pistol, 734 00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:40,559 and the place was wonderful and the people there were 735 00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:43,360 super nice. I wish I had the money to belong 736 00:40:43,559 --> 00:40:45,559 but it's also in another city, so it would be 737 00:40:45,599 --> 00:40:52,079 kind of hard for me to visit on a regular basis. Yeah, 738 00:40:52,119 --> 00:40:53,480 I'm sorry. 739 00:40:53,519 --> 00:40:55,199 Speaker 3: It was It was a good experience. 740 00:40:56,320 --> 00:41:00,480 Speaker 10: Oh yes, Oh yes, I got to meet people from Armory. 741 00:41:00,519 --> 00:41:02,800 I got to meet a lot of the people from Blackstone, 742 00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:07,599 and in fact meant the manager of Blackstone, a really 743 00:41:07,679 --> 00:41:11,440 nice man, and it went so nice and so smooth. 744 00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:13,840 I enjoyed the heck out of it. Like I said, 745 00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:17,079 I wished the money to join, but it's a little 746 00:41:17,119 --> 00:41:18,519 out of my out of my league. 747 00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:21,280 Speaker 3: So the question is, did you end up buying one 748 00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:23,079 of the bull Armory guns? 749 00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:26,079 Speaker 10: Oh, those are a little out of my league as well. 750 00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:27,800 I wish I had the money for one of those. 751 00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:30,519 Speaker 3: They are priced. They're very nice, but they are priced, 752 00:41:30,599 --> 00:41:31,199 that's for sure. 753 00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:34,880 Speaker 10: But you got to drive a tack driver. It was amazing. 754 00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:37,519 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, they're just amazed. Well, you know what, it's 755 00:41:37,519 --> 00:41:39,840 a nineteen eleven, even though it's maybe a double stack, 756 00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:41,079 but it's still a nineteen eleven. 757 00:41:42,199 --> 00:41:44,280 Speaker 10: Yes it is, Yes, it is. It was wonderful. 758 00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:48,599 Speaker 3: Well, all right, good range of part there. I appreciate that, sir. Yeah, 759 00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:53,199 I love to talk about twenty eleven. Yeah, the nineteen elevens. 760 00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:55,559 You know, nobody wants more to those. They're old fashioned. Yeah, 761 00:41:55,559 --> 00:41:57,760 but I got twenty eleven. It's the same gun, just 762 00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:00,440 with a little bit wider grip. Okay, why do you 763 00:42:00,519 --> 00:42:02,519 like it? For the same reason we've liked the twenty 764 00:42:02,599 --> 00:42:06,599 the nineteen elevens for more than one hundred years. Great trigger, 765 00:42:07,079 --> 00:42:11,480 great grip angle. John Brownie was genius invented this gun. 766 00:42:12,079 --> 00:42:14,159 If you don't have one, you should. I'm just gonna 767 00:42:14,159 --> 00:42:16,519 say it. There it is, And people are why would 768 00:42:16,519 --> 00:42:18,760 I want one of those? Well, I can't tell you. You 769 00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:21,119 got to go shoot one, fine one. Get a buddy 770 00:42:21,519 --> 00:42:24,000 to take you out, let him, you know, have him, 771 00:42:24,199 --> 00:42:28,519 let you shoot his gun. A nineteen eleven or twenty eleven. 772 00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:32,719 Either way, He's just a different kind of gun. Not 773 00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:35,639 that other guns aren't great. I mentioned earlier the Smith 774 00:42:35,679 --> 00:42:38,960 and West M and P medal. Love that gun. I 775 00:42:39,119 --> 00:42:43,639 have several P three sixty five's great platform. The Legion 776 00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:49,800 is just an amazing gun. The Ruger RXm inexpensive five 777 00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:54,800 hundred dollars gun shoots like crazy, incredibly accurate. Love the 778 00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:57,440 way it feels. It's a great carry gun and arrange 779 00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:00,360 gun as well. We are so blessed right now. It's 780 00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:04,039 an amazing time. All these wonderful guns we have available. 781 00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:08,599 I would just say this, don't settle, keep trying them. 782 00:43:08,599 --> 00:43:11,800 Go to different gun stores, try different ranges. If you 783 00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:13,880 can rent them, get your hands on them. If it 784 00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:16,920 doesn't feel exactly right, go pick up another one. Find 785 00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:20,599 something different, Try the different inserts and the different palm 786 00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:24,320 swells and the different backstraps. Find one that fits your 787 00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:27,400 hand before you pick it up, and you go, oh, 788 00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:31,039 I like that. That's the one. You put your money out. 789 00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:34,440 We have so many choices now. In the meantime, get 790 00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:36,920 out to the race. Take some friends with you, Invite 791 00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:40,440 some strangers, people you know from work, or people just 792 00:43:40,679 --> 00:43:42,559 meet here and there, say hey, I want to go 793 00:43:42,559 --> 00:43:45,400 study with me. Chances are they're going to go, and 794 00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:48,320 then you would have done something wonderful for the Second Amendment. 795 00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:50,360 And don't forget be kind,