Speaker 1: You're listening to Big for the Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron.
Speaker 1: In this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to
Speaker 1: bring you first hand encounters from people who say they've
Speaker 1: seen something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers
Speaker 1: to quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere,
Speaker 1: and each one leaves us with more questions than answers.
Speaker 1: These are the voices of the people who've lived it.
Speaker 1: To settle in, because today you'll hear another account that
Speaker 1: just might change the way you see the woods forever.
Speaker 1: So stay with us, all right, Big for Society. You've
Speaker 1: got the privilege of talking to mister Greg Yost today
Speaker 1: and during the interview though, we'll be called this is
Speaker 1: squatch Man. So squatch Man, welcome to.
Speaker 2: Hey Deremy, thanks for having me on.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 2: I'm doing good.
Speaker 3: I had my barta yesterday, want to cryptocon down in Lexington.
Speaker 3: Seen a lot of you know, bigfoot people. Man talk
Speaker 3: bigfoot all day. That was a great day. So yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm doing good, man, I love it.
Speaker 2: That's great.
Speaker 1: Happy birthday too, I hope it was sounds like it
Speaker 1: was a good one for you.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 1: Squatch man, I you're one of the guys that people
Speaker 1: talk about a lot. It comes up, It's come up
Speaker 1: a lot over the last few years, and I've tried.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I got to track down Scotch squatch Man somehow,
Speaker 1: and you actually tracked me down, and I was like,
Speaker 1: this is the best. So I'm so glad that we're
Speaker 1: able to have this interview finally, because I've heard that
Speaker 1: you have had some really interesting experiences over over the
Speaker 1: years of researching and just having experiences.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's correct. I've had my fair share of them,
Speaker 3: no doubt about that.
Speaker 1: Absolutely. So you know, when I have an individual like
Speaker 1: yourself where you know, you just have so many years
Speaker 1: of experience, and I want to say that you twenty
Speaker 1: four years is what you put down when you signed up.
Speaker 1: And so when there's an individual with that much experience,
Speaker 1: you know, can you take us back to was there
Speaker 1: an instance or a catalyst where it really launched it
Speaker 1: into spending so much time to try to figure out
Speaker 1: what is what is the answer to this question of
Speaker 1: the forest people?
Speaker 3: Or yeah? Yeah, yeah. The launching point for me was
Speaker 3: back in November of two when a big fed literally
Speaker 3: walked into my life. Uh, yeah, I was just home.
Speaker 3: I've been on an avy. I spent almost eleven years
Speaker 3: in an avy. I was coming off a bad relationship.
Speaker 3: I had a couple of children, and we broke up
Speaker 3: and went her a separate way. She took my babies
Speaker 3: and I got laid off for my job. I was
Speaker 3: a union welder. This was back in two thousand and two.
Speaker 3: It was a very bad year for me. So I started,
Speaker 3: you know, I was unemployed. I was getting unemployment. So
Speaker 3: I was going out through the forests in the woods
Speaker 3: a lot, you know, to try to you know, try
Speaker 3: to get answers What's going on with my life and
Speaker 3: what direction am I going? What am I doing wrong?
Speaker 3: And it seemed like nothing was working. And I don't
Speaker 3: know if I was going to find the answers out there.
Speaker 3: But it was quiet out there. It was a real
Speaker 3: trink well. I could really think and really gather my thoughts.
Speaker 3: And there was this one in particular, forest, Ferdinand State
Speaker 3: Forest out in du Boys County, a town where my
Speaker 3: mother grew up at again Ferdinand, Indiana, a beautiful little
Speaker 3: small town. And I went out there lock as my
Speaker 3: grandfather helped design an engineer that forced back in nineteen
Speaker 3: thirty three, and my aunt took us out there a
Speaker 3: lot when I stayed down with him during the summer,
Speaker 3: you know, summer vacation with your cousins. He took us
Speaker 3: out to the lake swimming. So yeah, it was a
Speaker 3: great place, man, and I love going there. So I
Speaker 3: went there a lot, and it's just my happy place.
Speaker 3: And this one in particular night, I went out there again,
Speaker 3: and ironically it was about the same time of the
Speaker 3: year as it is now.
Speaker 2: It was.
Speaker 3: Sometimes my birthday runs were right like on the day
Speaker 3: before Thanksgiving today after, or sometimes even right on Thanksgiving.
Speaker 3: You know, this year it was yesterday, so it was
Speaker 3: four or five days before. So anyway, on this night, yeah,
Speaker 3: my birthday was the next day. Thanksgiving was two days later,
Speaker 3: and yeah, I was looking forward to that seeing all
Speaker 3: my kin eating Thanksgiving dinner. He was always a great
Speaker 3: time Thanksgiving. And so I figured I'd have one more
Speaker 3: night in the forest before all the all the festivities
Speaker 3: and everything. So I went out there that night, and
Speaker 3: you know, here in southern Indiana, it was dark at
Speaker 3: five point thirty, it was six o'clock. It's very dark.
Speaker 3: So I got out there and I brought my dog buddy.
Speaker 3: He was a half child, half a gold Retriever, a
Speaker 3: very large dog, uh eighty pounds. He probably could have
Speaker 3: been even everywhere. I mean he was a big dog,
Speaker 3: looked like a little grizzly bear, and he went everywhere
Speaker 3: I went. And he was with me that night. So
Speaker 3: I got a little fire going.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I brought a pack of hot dogs and buns. Yeah,
Speaker 3: he's just gonna have a nice little night out there.
Speaker 3: Wasn't gonna stay late. Uh, you just go over some things, man,
Speaker 3: think some things out. And it was a very quiet
Speaker 3: night out there, very dark, no stars, no moon, an
Speaker 3: overcast sky, and the fire wasn't betting off much light.
Speaker 3: And again this is my first encounter. I knew nothing
Speaker 3: about this bigfoot entity, monsters.
Speaker 2: In the woods.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was in the boy Scouts, man and never
Speaker 3: heard of bigfoot. So see that was the last thing
Speaker 3: from my mind that night. So I'm sitting there man,
Speaker 3: having a great night, and du Boys County shirt pulls
Speaker 3: up and he starts talking to me as another dog
Speaker 3: came up like a beagle, uh a bluetick howe. You
Speaker 3: know it wasn't a full blood, but it was you know,
Speaker 3: along that lines of a hunting dog. And I talked
Speaker 3: to the sheriff for a while and he really wanted
Speaker 3: that dog, and I'm like, well, what's not my dog?
Speaker 3: I said, you can't have the big one there, but
Speaker 3: you canna have that other one. He goes walk it off.
Speaker 3: At six in the morning. I'm gonna come back out here,
Speaker 3: and if he was out here, I'm gonna get him.
Speaker 3: I'm like, well, I'm not gonna be out there that late,
Speaker 3: but hey, you're welcome. I mean, hey, you're the sheriff,
Speaker 3: not me. So he took off, and there wasn't nobody,
Speaker 3: not a soul in the park, you know, of late
Speaker 3: November night now most people's getting ready for the holiday,
Speaker 3: and so yeah, I had to hold the whole state
Speaker 3: force to myself that night. Not a soul in there
Speaker 3: other than the sheriff that just left. So it wasn't
Speaker 3: fifteen minutes later I heard his loud, loud noise coming
Speaker 3: down off the hill. Yeah, I mean, I was cornered
Speaker 3: back in this little remote area, back off a little
Speaker 3: rock road over a dam, and the lake was to
Speaker 3: the right. There's a little cut out there. I had
Speaker 3: enough for like four or five little camp camp places
Speaker 3: pignic tables and fire pits and that was it. And
Speaker 3: there was a bigger hill there that that butted up
Speaker 3: against the lake there, and there was a hiking trail
Speaker 3: up up on the top of that hill.
Speaker 2: I've been on.
Speaker 3: So so I knew the area very well. But his
Speaker 3: noise was coming down the hill. I've never heard nothing
Speaker 3: like this in my life. Yeah, and it was like,
Speaker 3: I mean, just crash and break and sticks. He's had
Speaker 3: like a Sharman tank was coming down off that hill.
Speaker 3: So there was a big tree there, and he stopped
Speaker 3: behind that tree there, and it was only like twenty
Speaker 3: feet from the picnic table in my little fire Yeah,
Speaker 3: and I'm sitting there on the Vigney table trying to
Speaker 3: trying to comprehend what's going on? Man, what you know,
Speaker 3: What's what just happened?
Speaker 1: Man?
Speaker 3: He just walked down at the hill and stopped right
Speaker 3: behind that tree there. So I started hearing the loudest
Speaker 3: breathing I've ever heard in my life. Yeah, and it
Speaker 3: was like, yeah, I don't know if it was growling
Speaker 3: at me or what. Then I just figured it out
Speaker 3: and that was, you know, he was breathing. Yeah, he
Speaker 3: just come down up in the hill in about nine steps,
Speaker 3: a big old hill.
Speaker 2: He'll come down it like it was nothing.
Speaker 3: And there he was right there, uh, twenty feet away, breathing.
Speaker 2: Loud, loud, loud.
Speaker 3: And my dog and his other dog walk up to
Speaker 3: the tree about ten feet in front of the tree,
Speaker 3: and they stop. And then they're just sitting there looking
Speaker 3: up at the tree. And I'm screaming at him, Buddy,
Speaker 3: his name is Buddy. I'm screaming at him, Buddy, get
Speaker 3: back here, Buddy. He wouldn't even turn around nothing, And
Speaker 3: him and that other dog is sitting there, Yeah, like
Speaker 3: they were hypnotized or something. Wouldn't move.
Speaker 2: And far as me, I was, yeah, I'm not gonna
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna kid you. Man.
Speaker 3: I was pretty frightened. I wasn't at the point of
Speaker 3: being scared. I was frightened. There's a big difference. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I just got out of the military. I know how
Speaker 3: to handle myself in a lot of situations. I'm good
Speaker 3: with firearms. I consider myself pretty good under pressure out.
Speaker 3: I handled things when they pop up. I mean, you
Speaker 3: gotta be uh, you know, make split decisions, man. And
Speaker 3: I was pretty good at that kind of stuff. And
Speaker 3: I didn't have an answer for what was behind that tree.
Speaker 3: All I could think of is, you know, back when
Speaker 3: I was a little boy, Mommy or a monster unner
Speaker 3: in my bed helped me.
Speaker 2: But but no, it wasn't nothing like that. I was
Speaker 2: out here in the woods by myself. There was suddenly
Speaker 2: huge twenty feet away from me, and I didn't know
Speaker 2: what to do. So my car was parked like a
Speaker 2: couple of feet right from the viginning table. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: just bought it back in two thousand. It was a
Speaker 2: brand new Pontiac Grand Prix. I called her black Beauty, Man,
Speaker 2: she's beautiful. And yeah, I had a firearm in the car.
Speaker 3: I had a cold forty five in the console, so
Speaker 3: I knew I didn't have a weapons. I started realizing
Speaker 3: that I better do something quick, man, or there's a
Speaker 3: good chance I'm going to die. I mean, I put
Speaker 3: this as a life. In that situation, I had to
Speaker 3: go on full alert. I had to do anything I
Speaker 3: could man to get out of there alive. And that's
Speaker 3: the way I was thinking right then. So I got
Speaker 3: my gun out and hey, yeah, a lot of times, man, Yeah,
Speaker 3: I call them magazine a clip.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm over school.
Speaker 3: That's the way we used to call them, and on
Speaker 3: some interviews I call them clips some but a lot
Speaker 3: of people I did an interview and a lot of
Speaker 3: people were getting on me for calling.
Speaker 2: It a clip. Hey, well whatever the case.
Speaker 3: You know, the story wasn't about my gun, and so
Speaker 3: regardless I called it a clip or a magazine that
Speaker 3: they knew what I meant. So so so anyway, yeah,
Speaker 3: I had a magazine halfway in the in the gun anyway,
Speaker 3: it was a cod forty five. So when I reached
Speaker 3: ynogrammed it, Yeah, I jammed it up in there. I
Speaker 3: cocked around in the chamber and I was ready for
Speaker 3: this creature. Again, no idea what it was. So the
Speaker 3: only thing I could think of, man, is started very
Speaker 3: boldly and loud, start talking to it. And that's exactly
Speaker 3: what I did. I told him I didn't want no trouble,
Speaker 3: told him I didn't know what it was. I didn't
Speaker 3: know who you were. I mean at this point, wasn't
Speaker 3: a human. I mean, I had no idea. I just
Speaker 3: know it was something really big. So's I cupa yeah,
Speaker 3: Kepa telling them, yeah, hey, you come right that tree man,
Speaker 3: I'm shooting you said, I got a gun here man,
Speaker 3: and I will kill you. I go, you mess with
Speaker 3: my dog or me, Uh, don't make me do it,
Speaker 3: but but I'm going to do it. And I cussed
Speaker 3: at him a lot. I probably used every cust word
Speaker 3: in the book. And I was getting Yeah, I was
Speaker 3: getting pretty angry. Yeah, you know me and my son,
Speaker 3: you know, not back then. My son was a two
Speaker 3: year old boy back then. But yeah, I always like saying,
Speaker 3: you know, when when a man gets cornered, when it's
Speaker 3: a life or that situation, that man's got to go
Speaker 3: in the warrior mode, you know, regardless of what kind
Speaker 3: of man he is, what kind of training he's had
Speaker 3: in the military. I mean, every man has that mode.
Speaker 3: They probably don't know it, but it's in there. So anyway,
Speaker 3: I turned into that warrior mode that night, and I
Speaker 3: was gonna fight. I was gonna fight this thing. I mean,
Speaker 3: I was waiting for thee to come around the tree.
Speaker 3: I was gonna blast him with everything I had. But
Speaker 3: he didn't and Buddy wouldn't turn around or come do me.
Speaker 3: So I had to walk up that ten feet and
Speaker 3: grab Buddy with my left arm. Yeah, I lift this big, large,
Speaker 3: heavy dog in my lap and take him back to
Speaker 3: my car at the same time holding my pistol up er,
Speaker 3: knowing this thing is gonna come around when he sees
Speaker 3: me vulnerable like that. So I got back, I got
Speaker 3: Buddy in the car, and I drove back to that
Speaker 3: Damn I was just telling you about you know, I
Speaker 3: was shaking like a leaf on a tree. Yeah, I
Speaker 3: still did. I still couldn't process what was going on.
Speaker 3: I just felt a lot better now I was in
Speaker 3: my car. I felt safe. So I drove back up
Speaker 3: to that pickmy table and I hit the lights on
Speaker 3: my grand Brie, the bright lights, and I lit that
Speaker 3: area up. And I looked up at that tree and
Speaker 3: there was a big black arm from the elbow through
Speaker 3: the fingertips hanging on that tree, with black shiny hair
Speaker 3: hanging down of that.
Speaker 2: Arm and from the fingers all the way to the elbow.
Speaker 3: Ye.
Speaker 2: And I'm driving up slow, you know, thinking to myself.
Speaker 3: What is that? And I got up to the Vigny table.
Speaker 3: I can almost get out. Yeah, right there, you open
Speaker 3: the door. Nerves my stuff. I got it in there
Speaker 3: and I left, and that little dog was still sitting there.
Speaker 3: So I got like, God, why are you doing this
Speaker 3: to me? I mean now I got to rescue this
Speaker 3: other dog. So I get this better judgment. Man, I
Speaker 3: elected not to h Maybe I should have, maybe I
Speaker 3: shouldn't have, But I feel I pushed my luck enough
Speaker 3: at night, and if I would have went back there,
Speaker 3: who knows what could have happened.
Speaker 2: But I got away from that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I got away that night and it changed my life,
Speaker 3: and it changed my life for the better.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Here I am I trying to find myself. I was
Speaker 3: a lost man. I was a broken man, and this
Speaker 3: thing walked into my life and he changed all that.
Speaker 3: Now I'm I'm a very popular man. People love me,
Speaker 3: the squatch Man. I got great stories, I got great evidence,
Speaker 3: I got great pictures. Everything I do, man, is great.
Speaker 3: And the Bigfoot thing out out that they really like me.
Speaker 3: And I'm at the point, how or you wouldn't leave
Speaker 3: some of the things I can do with them? Yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm not going to jump over the whole twenty years
Speaker 3: and experience. But uh yeah, that was your first question.
Speaker 3: What got me into that? And uh yeah, there's my answer, Jeremy.
Speaker 1: Squash Man. That that what incredible introduction to the world
Speaker 1: of a bigfoot. Uh my goodness. And that's that's a
Speaker 1: new area for us, but for for me, for listeners
Speaker 1: that didn't look it up that that forest area is
Speaker 1: just west of Hoo's your.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and there's been a lot of sightings. Yeah, I
Speaker 3: mean there's been a lot of sightings around that area.
Speaker 3: After I did that interview, Uh, you wouldn't leave. All
Speaker 3: the people got a hold of me from you know,
Speaker 3: around Ferdinand and around You'll do boys County up that way. Instead,
Speaker 3: they had encounters in that forest. There's one young lady
Speaker 3: I'll never forget. She got a hold of me one
Speaker 3: Saturday morning and she's almost was panicking, said her and
Speaker 3: her mother were jogging through there and won't come out
Speaker 3: on them. And I'm like it a tacky and she's like, no,
Speaker 3: we were just running down the trail and it run
Speaker 3: out in front of us.
Speaker 2: Stop.
Speaker 3: We stopped, and he growled at us and into the
Speaker 3: woods walked away from us, and she goes on, I
Speaker 3: try to tell a couple of people man, and they
Speaker 3: just laughed at me and go there's no big.
Speaker 2: Foots and part man.
Speaker 3: And so she goes and I found out about you
Speaker 3: to a podcast and I told my mom and we
Speaker 3: got to talk to this guy.
Speaker 2: So so that's what I'm in this far.
Speaker 3: Man. I don't really care about evidence. I'm not in
Speaker 3: it to research them. I'm in it to find out
Speaker 3: everything I get about him, you know. And I think
Speaker 3: I accomplish a lot of things so far, and I've
Speaker 3: learned a lot of things about them.
Speaker 2: And I do know.
Speaker 3: The main thing, you got to go about it the
Speaker 3: right way. You know, if you go out there with
Speaker 3: bad intentions and bad heart, if you're a bad person,
Speaker 3: you're not gonna get no action from them. But you know,
Speaker 3: take me for an example, I'm a good man, a
Speaker 3: very good man, a very good heart. I love people, man.
Speaker 3: I love the welfare people. I love the welfare animals, pets,
Speaker 3: but both domestic and wild animals. I just got a
Speaker 3: lot of love, man, for all God's creations. Man, And
Speaker 3: this is the where it all starts. And I think
Speaker 3: I share a lot of that with divorce people. And
Speaker 3: I think that night out in Ferdinand, yeah, I like
Speaker 3: to call that the awakening. I think they wanted to
Speaker 3: see what kind of man I really was before they started,
Speaker 3: really should I say, getting into my life? And and
Speaker 3: ever since that, man, it's been incredible. I mean I
Speaker 3: got some I got some stories that would plat out
Speaker 3: blow people's minds. And the good thing about a lot
Speaker 3: of these stories, I got a lot of witnesses that
Speaker 3: have been with me. Yeah, it's just not me sitting
Speaker 3: there and telling the stories. Yeah, a lot of people
Speaker 3: have seen what I can do. And that's where I
Speaker 3: got the name Squatchman. Yeah, a lot of people man
Speaker 3: like a man? Are you a squatch? Or are you
Speaker 3: a man? Are you a hybrid? I mean, how do
Speaker 3: you know so much? And so that's where the man
Speaker 3: that's where the name squatch Man developed from. And I
Speaker 3: kind of liked it, so I'm like, hey, that's cool.
Speaker 3: But but but yeah, there's I mean, there's so much
Speaker 3: information out there all over the internet. You know, they're
Speaker 3: this or that. You know, from what I can see,
Speaker 3: I agree with some of it. I don't agree with
Speaker 3: some of it. You know, some of us so far
Speaker 3: out there. I don't know where peop will get these
Speaker 3: things at. But it's a wild and crazy journey that
Speaker 3: I have been on and and I will tell you
Speaker 3: a few more stories there on the on the podcast today, Jeremy.
Speaker 1: Was there a certain time that made you start referring
Speaker 1: to them as the forest people?
Speaker 3: Yes, uh, that would be the second time and my
Speaker 3: second encounter. I call this one the knobs don't stare down.
Speaker 3: Work again with my dog Buddy, and we were out
Speaker 3: of hiking. And this was three years almost see the
Speaker 3: date of my first encounter, and we're going down the
Speaker 3: Knobstone Trail. It's supposed to be one of the one
Speaker 3: of the ruggiest, hardest trails the walk other than the uh,
Speaker 3: you know, the Appalachian Trail. A lot of people call
Speaker 3: it the minnieappollation.
Speaker 2: I mean it's a.
Speaker 3: It's a hard trail to go sixty six miles, the
Speaker 3: whole trail. So sometimes after work I would go out there. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and this is around Clark State Wares. This is in
Speaker 3: my county. Because I figured if I didn't want to
Speaker 3: go to all the way to Ferdinand all the time, man, yeah,
Speaker 3: he goes That's where I had my first encounter.
Speaker 2: I said, well, maybe there are another Fords around here.
Speaker 3: So I started going to Clark State Fords around Deams
Speaker 3: Lake area, up around you know Henryville. You know the
Speaker 3: Clark State Forest very well known. It is in the
Speaker 3: the enda's oldest and largest forest. So I'm like, well,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna start looking in here. I mean, if they're here,
Speaker 3: I'll find them in the here. So yeah, I started
Speaker 3: hiking around man, started researching that forest, and uh yeah,
Speaker 3: I still didn't know nothing about them. Yeah, that night
Speaker 3: I called that thing a monster. I wouldn't share it
Speaker 3: was a big foot. I didn't know what it was. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I know it was very big and it had a
Speaker 3: big Harry arm on it. And I always liked thinking
Speaker 3: go back when I was growing up.
Speaker 2: You know, I love to show Lost in Space. You know,
Speaker 2: they had a lot of.
Speaker 3: Monsters like that on there, you know, bigger Harry monsters,
Speaker 3: and that's what I kept wanted to think about. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it was like one of them Harry monsters on Lost
Speaker 3: in Space. But but but I mean this wasn't no
Speaker 3: TV show man and this guy was real, so so
Speaker 3: uh yeah, I always had that in my back in
Speaker 3: my mind, Yeah, that I wanted to see one up
Speaker 3: clothes in the daylight and really get a good look
Speaker 3: at him and see what they really look like. Yeah,
Speaker 3: all I see was out arm that night, So uh yeah,
Speaker 3: I got my wish that afternoon. Yeah, I'm walking buddy,
Speaker 3: we go about to to have miles, and I had
Speaker 3: a turnaround point turn where I always sat down. I
Speaker 3: had a bowl of water, and when water and stuff
Speaker 3: like that in my backpack, I carry him. So I
Speaker 3: got the bowl out, I got buddy his water. I'm
Speaker 3: drinking my water, and this little buck comes walking by
Speaker 3: and he had, uh, his antlers were just coming out.
Speaker 3: Man's the blur on them. And he's a proud little fellow.
Speaker 3: Man just you tell he was a cocky little guy.
Speaker 3: And he's just prancing by, you know, about thirty forty
Speaker 3: feet down down the little hill there. We're up on
Speaker 3: the trail, and he didn't even mind us or nothing.
Speaker 3: Man look right at us, and yeah, yeah, I like
Speaker 3: to call him Rudolph man, you know, being around Christmas now,
Speaker 3: he even looked like Rudolph. So there was a big
Speaker 3: wall there of ivy and honeysuckle and vines the stuff
Speaker 3: that usually stays green, yeah, a little longer than the
Speaker 3: other leaves at fall off. So it was like a wall,
Speaker 3: big wall there, and he goes prancing behind that, and
Speaker 3: I figured that'd be the end of that. So then
Speaker 3: we hear, oh, heck breakout over there, heavy footsteps, branches breaking, Yeah,
Speaker 3: just an all out of melee going you know, Buddy's
Speaker 3: ears are burning up, and all of a sudden.
Speaker 2: There comes this deer flying out of it. He wasn't
Speaker 2: thrown out, he was flying it. He flew out on
Speaker 2: his own, hit the ground, jumped up again. And I
Speaker 2: can say I've never seen a deer move like his
Speaker 2: one more loss, a little one like that.
Speaker 3: I mean, he was literally flying down that ridge. And
Speaker 3: Buddy has a bad habit of chasing animals, so I
Speaker 3: didn't want to go running through the woods. I mean,
Speaker 3: it was about five o'clock. It's gonna get darker in
Speaker 3: about a half an hour. So I reached down to
Speaker 3: put his collar, his leash on his collar, you know,
Speaker 3: and I'm kneeling down, yeah, and I'm talking to him
Speaker 3: and I'm, oh, yeah, buddy, ain't that beautiful? That's why
Speaker 3: we come out here, man see stuff like that? And
Speaker 3: then I asked him, I go, well, what do you
Speaker 3: think of it? Scared that little guy? So so he's
Speaker 3: doing his lassing and all of a sudden, his head
Speaker 3: goes from there to I mean, just witched it over
Speaker 3: there and immediately starts growling hair on his body coming up.
Speaker 3: I mean, I've never seen the dog like this before.
Speaker 3: And I'm like, ohing, gee, what is it? So I
Speaker 3: didn't even look up yet. So I'm thinking to myself,
Speaker 3: it's got to be it's got to be a bigfoot.
Speaker 3: It's got to be a big foot. So I got
Speaker 3: the nerve. Man, I looked up, and I was wrong.
Speaker 3: It wasn't a big foot. It was two bigfoots and
Speaker 3: ever standing right there where that deer just come out of.
Speaker 3: And one was a big, reddish, big reddish one. He
Speaker 3: looked very old man. He was an ancient one. And
Speaker 3: people always asking me why how old did he look? Well,
Speaker 3: to be honest with you, he looked like he was
Speaker 3: about one hundred and fifty years old.
Speaker 2: His hair, his hair was already cited. He had wrinkles
Speaker 2: in his forehead. His skin was real weathered.
Speaker 3: He kind of reminded me of the last picture I've
Speaker 3: seen of Chief Geronimo that they took him before he died.
Speaker 3: He almost like a Native American face on him. Yea,
Speaker 3: lips like ours and those like ours. This wasn't no eight,
Speaker 3: It wasn't a monkey. It wasn't some big nanderthraw man.
Speaker 3: What this was was a body that looked like ours.
Speaker 3: Is a lot bigger in a harrier with a face
Speaker 3: that looked a lot human than it did anything else.
Speaker 3: And the other one was a big black one. And
Speaker 3: I call this one a little calm because of her
Speaker 3: such thing as King Kong, this be his son. This
Speaker 3: thing was enormous, you know, the classic no neck, four
Speaker 3: or five feet shoulders, uh, look like bowling balls up
Speaker 3: there on their shoulders, biceps that looked like telephone balls.
Speaker 3: I mean he, I mean he was like a superhero.
Speaker 3: You could not imagine how built in buff this guy was.
Speaker 3: I mean he just looked. I mean, he's undescribable. How
Speaker 3: how I can describe him other than almost godly looking
Speaker 3: with his body, you know, like a god, you know,
Speaker 3: the old Greek gods. He looked like one of them.
Speaker 3: And he's a lot more serious than the other one. Uh.
Speaker 3: When I looked at the other one, looked like, you know,
Speaker 3: more soothing, more comfortable. Yeah, he was a grand elder. Yeah,
Speaker 3: letting me know, man, I'm safe. And the other one, yeah,
Speaker 3: I can tell he's a lot younger. His hairline went
Speaker 3: right over his eyes. Yeah. You can barely see him
Speaker 3: or set back her. You a big ridge of the
Speaker 3: big forehead and his eyes sunk back in the forehead
Speaker 3: and he had like grays skin other than the other
Speaker 3: one that had like Ruddy's tan skin. And yeah, just
Speaker 3: by looking at him, man, and his chest and everything. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: if he was gonna do something, I was gonna die
Speaker 3: that day.
Speaker 2: There's no way I could ever defend myself against.
Speaker 3: Him and his dad, his granddad, whoever that old one was.
Speaker 3: But we just sat there and Buddy's going crazy. Yeah,
Speaker 3: he's trying to protect me. That was my boy, and
Speaker 3: he was doing a rent intin that day. He would
Speaker 3: have died for his owner. He would have died for me,
Speaker 3: protecting me from these creatures. And I don't like calling
Speaker 3: them creatures now, but back then they were. And a
Speaker 3: lot of people will say, well, those dogs are scared
Speaker 3: of the Well, I'm sorry to tell you, Buddy wasn't
Speaker 3: that day, says I don't care what the naysayers want
Speaker 3: to say or whatever you unless he was there, you
Speaker 3: don't know how Buddy acted that day, but I did,
Speaker 3: and then he was a beast that day. So so anyway,
Speaker 3: I'm watching them, I'm looking down at Buddy.
Speaker 2: I don't know what's going on.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 3: Everything's going through my head is this my last breast
Speaker 3: coming up here. I just seen him trying to get
Speaker 3: that little deer. I'm sure they're hungry or me and
Speaker 3: Buddy next. Yeah, I was like, God help me, man,
Speaker 3: God help me. Because I didn't had no weapons. I
Speaker 3: really don't like carrying firearms anymore. I didn't have a
Speaker 3: knife on me anything. I didn't they even have a
Speaker 3: walking stick, so there wasn't nothing I was going to
Speaker 3: defend myself.
Speaker 2: So I was pretty much you know, here I am.
Speaker 3: But the only advantage I did have I was up
Speaker 3: on the trail looking down at him. But still we
Speaker 3: were almost still looking out of eye. That's how tally were. Yeah,
Speaker 3: ever fifty sixty feet down that trail, so that they
Speaker 3: had to be nine to ten feet tall, and it
Speaker 3: seemed like forever. Man, three four minutes, I said, come on,
Speaker 3: buddy man, it's time to go out of here.
Speaker 2: So so again I had them leashed up. I've been down.
Speaker 3: I think it is a water bowl in the backpack,
Speaker 3: slung it over my shoulder and I took off. I
Speaker 3: looked over at the two people because they were definitely people. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I said, sorry, we're not on the menu. I don't
Speaker 3: know why I said that, but I did, and I said,
Speaker 3: come on, buddy, let's get out of here.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 3: So we're walking down and I'm looking and I'm looking.
Speaker 3: They're still standing there, not even moving. So yeah, being
Speaker 3: a military man, I figured they would have come up
Speaker 3: higher or come down low and flank us. You know,
Speaker 3: when I wasn't looking, man, you get a better angle
Speaker 3: of attack on us. Yeah. A lot of people don't
Speaker 3: or an enemy whatever, you know, they don't like having
Speaker 3: to disadvantage coming up a hill.
Speaker 2: So I feared it ever gonna come out.
Speaker 3: I was looking for a weapon, you know, a nice
Speaker 3: size stick, a rock, and anything anything that helped me
Speaker 3: defend me and my dog. Yeah. I didn't pick up
Speaker 3: a knife size stick, and you can be made it
Speaker 3: back to the car.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 3: I've never seen them again. I think about the Ferdinand charge,
Speaker 3: and I think about this one, the knobs done stare down.
Speaker 3: I think about it a lot because both of them
Speaker 3: taught me very big lessons. One they're friendly people, and
Speaker 3: two they look a lot like us. Uh.
Speaker 2: Take away the hair and the uh and the huge size.
Speaker 2: They are humans. They got two legs, two arms, hands, feet, heads, brains,
Speaker 2: exact same by a unions male female, They reproduce their
Speaker 2: family units.
Speaker 3: They are so much like that like us, it's it's
Speaker 3: just too similar to be a coincidence. So that's why
Speaker 3: I got the idea that they're more than a you know,
Speaker 3: more than some kind of ape out there man and
Speaker 3: their people.
Speaker 1: Was there a time after that that you feel that
Speaker 1: there was any form of communication that ever opened up
Speaker 1: back and forth.
Speaker 2: It's funny you said that.
Speaker 3: I got on tape one of the best audios ever
Speaker 3: are one Speaking, and they let me know that day
Speaker 3: that they don't want me using no equipment. They don't
Speaker 3: want me using aunory recorders. They don't want me to
Speaker 3: using cameras, flour cameras, night vision cameras, infrared cameras. They
Speaker 3: do not like that stuff. I mean a lot of
Speaker 3: people use it. I haven't seen much stuff come from them,
Speaker 3: but a lot of people use that stuff. I don't
Speaker 3: because when I did put my recorder back by my
Speaker 3: gifting stuff, you know, where I camp out, I give them,
Speaker 3: I give them gifts, mainly food items. They love it.
Speaker 3: In return, they do stuff for me. And on this
Speaker 3: one particular name, I had four or five people camping
Speaker 3: with me, and I said, look, I'm gonna send my
Speaker 3: recorder back there by the gifting stuff, hide it under
Speaker 3: this tree or put leaves on it to see if
Speaker 3: we can pick something up. And boy, when I got
Speaker 3: on the next day, I played at twenty four hours.
Speaker 3: And when I got on the next day, even not
Speaker 3: believe some of the things I've heard, But the main
Speaker 3: thing I heard on it. I mean I can speak
Speaker 3: all our about what was on that tape, but the
Speaker 3: main thing was on it was one You can hear
Speaker 3: one walk right up to it, pick it up and
Speaker 3: tap on it like this. He taps on it and
Speaker 3: then he goes, you know, very similar to that. And
Speaker 3: an other man walks up and he goes your way,
Speaker 3: which is it? And then you hear him go oh,
Speaker 3: you're like disgusted. So you hear the big one that
Speaker 3: found it takes about five steps.
Speaker 2: I mean, you hear all this is going on.
Speaker 3: Man fifty feet from us where about the campfire they're
Speaker 3: cooking hot dogs? Is this highning when all this happened.
Speaker 3: That was the mark on my audio. And this happened
Speaker 3: in a highning. So all this is going on back there.
Speaker 3: So he takes about five steps and he rips a
Speaker 3: branch out of a tree. You hear it, damn and
Speaker 3: does a real out tree knock. And we're all sitting
Speaker 3: up there, we all heard that tree knock, and I'm like, oh,
Speaker 3: that's that's cool, man. I hope my recorder got it.
Speaker 3: So I got that all in one day. But I
Speaker 3: figure they got pretty mad because they don't want me
Speaker 3: using that recorder, so I quit using it. And if
Speaker 3: I do take pictures, I asked first, and I'm gonna
Speaker 3: take pictures. If you don't want to be in the picture, leave,
Speaker 3: If not, hey be my guest.
Speaker 2: And I had to.
Speaker 3: Teach other people to do this, and you would not
Speaker 3: believe the pictures we have got from up there in
Speaker 3: my camp a lot of forest people. And then there
Speaker 3: was another night when I come to real that they
Speaker 3: know who I am. I had one come up behind
Speaker 3: my tent at three o'clock in the morning and I'm
Speaker 3: just about sleeping, just about halfway between sleeping and not sleeping,
Speaker 3: and I hear a greag. They're kind of like a breathing.
Speaker 3: I heard of Ferdinand, and so I got up all
Speaker 3: my elbows and I'm like, man, no way, something just
Speaker 3: called my name. So I'm like, oh, man, and I'm
Speaker 3: telling I'm talking to myself. I'm like, no, man, you're
Speaker 3: hearing things. And then nobody called your name. I lay back.
Speaker 2: Now I go back to sleep.
Speaker 3: Man. So I saw my elballs and and then I
Speaker 3: then my other voices like oh, I don't know, signd of,
Speaker 3: like somebody says something to me. I like to go
Speaker 3: at all angles. I like to write nothing off or
Speaker 3: you know, just miss anything. Yeah, to till until the
Speaker 3: writing's on the wall. So so it was a good,
Speaker 3: good five minutes went by in this time, no mistake. Really,
Speaker 3: it's really loud, really loud. So I'm like, OMG, and
Speaker 3: I don't know if you ever heard this I have
Speaker 3: if anything ever caused your name from the woods at night,
Speaker 3: don't answer it. I mean I heard that before. So
Speaker 3: that was in my line like I'm not answering. I
Speaker 3: am not answering back. So all of a sudden, I
Speaker 3: had two gentlemen from a hall right next to me,
Speaker 3: and one of his names Bob, and Bob yells out
Speaker 3: a great you okay, Sometimes thinking I'm like, yeah, I'm okay, man,
Speaker 3: Why what's going on? Why does I heard you yell?
Speaker 3: Get out?
Speaker 2: Man? What's going on over there.
Speaker 3: So we got out of her tense and I'm like,
Speaker 3: all right, what you hear? What sounded is real grass
Speaker 3: for me, maam. But it's like get out and I
Speaker 3: got what about this? It it sound more like this Greg.
Speaker 3: He goes, yeah, that was it. He goes, well, what
Speaker 3: was that, dude? I go, what do you think it was? Man?
Speaker 3: I said, I can't absolutely tell you it was a
Speaker 3: bigfoot man, but I think the bigfoot man was right
Speaker 3: there behind my tent calling my name out, And you know,
Speaker 3: a couple more people were waking up, like, dude, it's unbelievable.
Speaker 3: I mean, no one knows your name. So uh, that's about.
Speaker 3: That's about it for that. So I found this forest
Speaker 3: right in my same county that's full of bigfoots. So
Speaker 3: I started, uh, you know, I was really excited. I
Speaker 3: started going out there a lot. I still go out
Speaker 3: there a lot to this day, two or three days
Speaker 3: a week sometimes. And there's this one creek there. I
Speaker 3: always walk the same creek all the way back to
Speaker 3: the lake and back. It's probably two and a half
Speaker 3: three mile high. Nothing big, but I'm getting old and
Speaker 3: it's all I need. And there's a lot of activity
Speaker 3: on this creek. Yeah, I call it the Enchanting Creek.
Speaker 3: So much goes on. One day, I'm casting a baby
Speaker 3: print and it looked like a little bigger than the baby,
Speaker 3: like a yeah, if people call them juveniles, adolescens and
Speaker 3: whatever you want to call it, it's like a little
Speaker 3: boy's print next to the baby print. So I'm casting
Speaker 3: both of them in the significance behind us. Because this
Speaker 3: was in March, cold of the winter, and back in July,
Speaker 3: right on that same creek, I had an encounter where
Speaker 3: I got zapped. And for people who don't know what
Speaker 3: that means, well I tell you the whole what happened.
Speaker 3: I walked up to this. It wasn't a cave, but
Speaker 3: it was a It was a war shadow like on
Speaker 3: his bank by the creek, and there was a lot
Speaker 3: of room in there, and yeah, and a big fuck
Speaker 3: could get in there and cool off whatever. So I
Speaker 3: was taken a picture of it to show my buddy
Speaker 3: at work. You know, a good place you over walking
Speaker 3: to hide or cool off.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: You know, this was in July, off summer day. I
Speaker 3: was out there sweating like a dog that day. I
Speaker 3: remember it good. So soon as I snapped a picture
Speaker 3: with my phone. I started sweating real bad. I got
Speaker 3: real dizzy, all right. I went down to my knees. Man,
Speaker 3: I thought I was gonna throw up. I was as orientating, man,
Speaker 3: I didn't know exactly which way to go, and I'm
Speaker 3: trying to figure out what's going on. Man. So I
Speaker 3: so I got away from that area and everything went away.
Speaker 3: So so I'm like, man, what what was all that about?
Speaker 3: And it's kind of scary. That's never happened to me before.
Speaker 3: So when I got back at the house, man, I
Speaker 3: looked at that picture, and there's a mother in there.
Speaker 3: It must have just had birth to a newborn. As
Speaker 3: the baby looked blue and it had red eyes and
Speaker 3: just like some human babies, man, and they're born blue.
Speaker 3: So I think I got I think I'll walk up
Speaker 3: on a mother just giving birth and she's apt to
Speaker 3: she's just after the heck out of me and let
Speaker 3: me know, Hey, we love you, dude, but you're not
Speaker 3: getting this close. So I learned, Yeah, I learned the
Speaker 3: valuable lot in that day. And back to them footprints,
Speaker 3: so I'm casting them. And then again, this was in March,
Speaker 3: a number of months later, so I'm trying to think
Speaker 3: if that baby print was at the baby I've seen
Speaker 3: in the cave, yeah, five six months earlier. Are they
Speaker 3: up and walking this soon? I'm trying to figure out
Speaker 3: either do they walk a lot faster than a baby,
Speaker 3: or you know, sometimes it takes a baby, a hunion baby,
Speaker 3: twelve months or longer to start walking. So so I
Speaker 3: was just trying, you know, just thinking of all kinds
Speaker 3: of stuff, and out of the corner of my left eye,
Speaker 3: I see a brown figure man up on the ridge
Speaker 3: line up over the creek. I remember, right up the
Speaker 3: bank from me, you know, And the first thing that
Speaker 3: going to my thought was what is a ups man
Speaker 3: doing out here? Because it was all brown, That's the
Speaker 3: first thought I had. I'm like, no, I don't sound right.
Speaker 3: So it's glanced over and it's the Holy cow. It
Speaker 3: was a female walking down that ridge line. I mean,
Speaker 3: not one or two steps I've seen a good eight
Speaker 3: or nine steps were this gal. It looked like she
Speaker 3: was gliding down that ridge. Her head was barely moving.
Speaker 3: It wasn't bombing like he was walking like a human.
Speaker 3: This is the first time I ever seen one walking.
Speaker 3: And the reason I know it was a female I've
Speaker 3: seen her breast. It wasn't like Paddy. It wasn't a
Speaker 3: real big female. I tell a lot of people that
Speaker 3: this is like I call it the shock body. Yeah,
Speaker 3: big but tall but not Yeah, a thousand pound body.
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, maybe three hundred pounds at the
Speaker 3: most and seven eight feet tall.
Speaker 2: I don't know. It's hard to tell if they're on
Speaker 2: that ridge, but I.
Speaker 3: Watched her talk about yeah, eight or nine steps then
Speaker 3: she went down over the ridge, and I'm like, oh wow.
Speaker 3: I mean as I can win in the lottery that day,
Speaker 3: and I mean, I'll never forget, you know, I'll never
Speaker 3: forget all the stuff that I see. Yeah, And I
Speaker 3: don't talk about stories much, but but what I do, man,
Speaker 3: it brings back memories, you know, like it just happened
Speaker 3: that day.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just like getting zapped. And I've been zapped twice
Speaker 2: more after that, and it's no fun.
Speaker 1: It sounds like one of the worst things that you
Speaker 1: can go through. Regarding Bigfoot. Do you have any thoughts
Speaker 1: about how a person can make sure they have the
Speaker 1: right intentions when they're going trying to go out and
Speaker 1: look for a bigger.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, first and foremost, man, you gotta have a
Speaker 3: good heart, no if or buds about it. And you
Speaker 3: can't go to Walmart, you can't go on to a
Speaker 3: dollar store to buy a good heart. Either got one
Speaker 3: or you don't. You're either a good person or you're
Speaker 3: not a good person. I mean, I'm not here to
Speaker 3: judge people. That's Jesus in God's job. I'm just here
Speaker 3: to give you my perspective, in my in my philosophy
Speaker 3: of what these beings are out there.
Speaker 2: And I do know being a good person has a
Speaker 2: lot to do with it.
Speaker 3: I mean, I've known people that have been out there
Speaker 3: thirty forty years have never seen nothing, zilch. And then
Speaker 3: there's people like me. They walk into my life. Why
Speaker 3: did they choose me? Do they like me? Do they
Speaker 3: know something about me that I don't? And then I
Speaker 3: started figuring all out, Well, you're a good dude. I've
Speaker 3: never hurt nobody, unless I add to I help people
Speaker 3: all the time. I'm a religious man, and that's the
Speaker 3: most important factor of the force people of being a
Speaker 3: godly man that they're all about God. I mean, if
Speaker 3: I got one on tape saying yahwegh that's what the
Speaker 3: Jewish and the Cherokee engine is called God. Yeah weyh
Speaker 3: yay wall it's pronounced different ways, and I got one
Speaker 3: on tape saying this. So it's it's all about man,
Speaker 3: It's all about winning yourself, you know, with the universe,
Speaker 3: with God, with your heart, you loving yourself, loving the environment,
Speaker 3: not going out pollutiny environment, doing your part as a
Speaker 3: human to make the world a better place. You know,
Speaker 3: don't complain and mown and grown about everything. Hey, to
Speaker 3: try to change it, man, fix it. You know, we
Speaker 3: need more good people in this world. And the most
Speaker 3: people don't like a lot of people. There's probably ninety
Speaker 3: five percent of the population that whenever's one because person
Speaker 3: and foremost they don't believe in them. I've seen all
Speaker 3: these podcasts and all the remarks and everything, and people
Speaker 3: are you know, you wouldn't leave all that, hey, people
Speaker 3: pitt out on Bigfoot ain't real, you know, and people
Speaker 3: like me here we're just all bunch of nuts.
Speaker 2: Whatever.
Speaker 3: But that's the thing, man, if you're going to get
Speaker 3: into this, man, you gotta have a thick skin, and
Speaker 3: you don't worry about what the PIOM say. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean they can say whatever they want up there
Speaker 3: on the penut gallery. I mean, I know for a
Speaker 3: fact what I know.
Speaker 2: I've seen it, I lived it, and nobody's gonna tell
Speaker 2: me any different.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean they can believe me or they can't
Speaker 3: believe me. I could care less because I'm not here.
Speaker 3: I'm not on here for that. I'm out here that
Speaker 3: that that let the true hearted people, the good people know.
Speaker 3: The way to the forced people are through your hearts.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: And once you once.
Speaker 3: You've build that first an interaction with them, they're they're
Speaker 3: gonna know what kind of person you are. Yeah. I
Speaker 3: think they can go after people with good hearts and
Speaker 3: they go from there. I mean, there's a lot of
Speaker 3: people like me. I'm not the only one. Uh. But again,
Speaker 3: I don't get into other people's business, man, I don't. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I speak highly of everybody. Yeah, I'm not on here
Speaker 3: now with this guy, y'all. I don't like him. I
Speaker 3: don't like her. Hey, to each their own, man, Wherever
Speaker 3: you want to go about this, Yeah, there's no book written. Yeah,
Speaker 3: you got to follow these rules. So so it's how
Speaker 3: you want to how you want to take it. And
Speaker 3: this is the way I've taken it and it's working
Speaker 3: great for me.
Speaker 1: Is there a way that so the tapes that you've
Speaker 1: mentioned where you've recorded things. Are those available publicly anywhere
Speaker 1: or are those just like personal.
Speaker 3: I got them now, I haven't personally put them out
Speaker 3: on Yeah, public media. I played it at I spoke
Speaker 3: at Bigfoot conferences.
Speaker 2: I play them there. But yeah, people love it and
Speaker 2: love me.
Speaker 3: Add on my tape that I sent to you a
Speaker 3: sound expert in Quantico, Virginia. That gives you an ideal
Speaker 3: that came back back. Uh, non human And that's even
Speaker 3: with the ahwah so is. Yeah, it was an English language,
Speaker 3: but it wasn't a human speaking it, so to say.
Speaker 3: In the First War he was talking, is all. And
Speaker 3: I call it squatch Dog. That was totally non human. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and this came back from from the man in Juanaico,
Speaker 3: the the speech specialist that, yeah, does this for a
Speaker 3: living every day.
Speaker 2: So that was good to know.
Speaker 3: Man, it wasn't somebody out in the woods hoaxing or nothing.
Speaker 3: But I know it wouldn't be anyway. But you got
Speaker 3: to be sure.
Speaker 1: It sounds like people definitely keep an eye out for
Speaker 1: when squatch Man does presentations. I'm guessing you probably do.
Speaker 3: Yes, Yeah, actually I did like five. It's just this
Speaker 3: past year and U uh yeah, the Indiana Bigfoot Conference,
Speaker 3: it's always a great time. I've been there two years
Speaker 3: in a row now. I spoke in one dawn in
Speaker 3: Kentucky down by Mammon's Cave about a month ago. That
Speaker 3: was a really good one.
Speaker 2: I went all the way down to London, Kentucky, down
Speaker 2: by Tennessee. Uh.
Speaker 3: All these all these communities that they're all popping up everywhere.
Speaker 3: It's the Bigfoot phenomenon. Everybody wants to know all about Bigfoot.
Speaker 3: And and that's where I feel most comfortable at. Yeah,
Speaker 3: letting these people know my perspective on it. And and
Speaker 3: they really seem to like what I tell them. I mean,
Speaker 3: I have huge crowds at my presentations. Uh, good reaction
Speaker 3: from the people. Yeah, they like what I say.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 3: And there's not a lot of people like me. But
Speaker 3: I just went to cryptocon down in Luxington, Kentucky yesterday. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I'm good friends with a lot of them guys down there. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Russell Acord from the Expedition Bigfoot, Yeah, he was there.
Speaker 2: He's a great friend of mine.
Speaker 3: Yeah, even autographed and gave me two of his books
Speaker 3: he just wrote man for a birthday present.
Speaker 2: Uh Yeah, yeah, great man.
Speaker 3: Russell Man.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: I can't speak enough good things about the guy Charlie
Speaker 3: Raymond Man. He gave me a book he just wrote. Yeah,
Speaker 3: Bigfoot Encounters in the Daniel Boone Forest.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Charlie's one of the first guys I met when
Speaker 2: I got into this.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: He just liked the rest of us. Man.
Speaker 3: He loves Bigfoot, And you gotta love people like that, man.
Speaker 3: I mean, they stick to their guns. They don't shy
Speaker 3: away when people try to bash them. And I mean
Speaker 3: when we know what we know, man, when we know
Speaker 3: they're out there, and a lot of people just can't
Speaker 3: swallow that. No, what big Food's not real?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 3: How come they never caught one? How come they never
Speaker 3: killed one? I come one's not in a zoo, the circus,
Speaker 3: on the laboratory, you know, the table where he's about
Speaker 3: to get all cut up. You know, how come that
Speaker 3: don't happen. I could ask that all the time and
Speaker 3: I got one answer. They're too smart for that. You'll
Speaker 3: never see them do that. I mean, these things can
Speaker 3: do a lot more than people can wrap their finger around.
Speaker 3: So I don't even want to get into all that.
Speaker 3: But uh, yeah, we ain't talking about some dumb animal.
Speaker 3: That's all I'll say.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's it's a whole I mean, that's you could
Speaker 1: talk for hours on that. Uh uh, squash man, I've
Speaker 1: got one more, one more question for you, and so
Speaker 1: thankful for the time you're able to spend with us today.
Speaker 1: Let's let's pretend you were putting a completely new part
Speaker 1: of the US where you'd never been before, and you say, Okay,
Speaker 1: I got to figure out where are the places I'm
Speaker 1: going to go to try to have an interaction with Bigfoot?
Speaker 1: What kind of what kind of things would you look
Speaker 1: for or do in order to find these areas? That
Speaker 1: would probably be the best.
Speaker 3: Well, from what I'm about to tell you right now,
Speaker 3: we'll probably blow your mind. But where where I go,
Speaker 3: the forest people are there. I don't know if they're
Speaker 3: there already or they follow me there, but everywhere I go. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: that's why I want to That's why I want to
Speaker 3: end this interview a boy telling you what I can
Speaker 3: do now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I raised my hands up. I asked him to
Speaker 2: do stuff for me.
Speaker 3: I communicate with him, and a lot of times they
Speaker 3: do stuff for me. I would tell you a couple
Speaker 3: of quick stories we got a little time love. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I give you an example of what I can do
Speaker 3: with them. Okay, I was gonna move to Washington, and
Speaker 3: I had my dear friends pac Man parent Ormal with me, Ernie,
Speaker 3: Denise Pack and our darter, and we were having a
Speaker 3: show for a well known personality that hey he's on
Speaker 3: coast to coast. Yeah, she does interviews on her every
Speaker 3: now and then, very well known personality. And she wanted
Speaker 3: to have a show where bickfoot of mes parent Ormal,
Speaker 3: see you know what techniques work and my blah blah.
Speaker 3: So anyway, I was showing Ernie in the knees. Yeah,
Speaker 3: well what I do? Man?
Speaker 2: How I communicate with him?
Speaker 3: So I told him I was moving to Washington, and
Speaker 3: I really, you know, I'm bummed out, man, I'm sad.
Speaker 3: I said, I may not ever be back here again.
Speaker 3: I go, can you do something really big so I
Speaker 3: will never forget something huge? It'll make this forest come alive,
Speaker 3: I mean make it bang. And within seconds seven eight
Speaker 3: trees got pushed over I mean cracking, banging, I mean
Speaker 3: two foot three foot in again of red oak trees
Speaker 3: getting snapped in half like little twigs all around us.
Speaker 3: And there was a tree hanging over the one way
Speaker 3: road we were on, and Ernie's wiped the nice found it,
Speaker 3: so he said, hey, I found one of the trees.
Speaker 3: And they pushed us up out of the root ball
Speaker 3: like a bulldozer did it. There was no way in
Speaker 3: the heck a man could have did this, and we
Speaker 3: were all right there anyway.
Speaker 2: There wasn't no people there. It was just us there
Speaker 2: in a dark forest.
Speaker 3: And a This is Memorial Day weekend five years ago.
Speaker 3: On Monday night, Memorial Day night, there was a spring
Speaker 3: shower going by, but it was already passed. There wasn't
Speaker 3: no wind or nothing. It was already quit. Raining says. Anyway,
Speaker 3: we're looking at this tree that got pushed over by
Speaker 3: the roots, so we go back up fifty feet away.
Speaker 3: I counted it out many times. That's all.
Speaker 2: This happened within feet of us.
Speaker 3: All of a sudden, that tree is looking across the
Speaker 3: road I just told you about, was hung up in
Speaker 3: another one right on the other side of the road,
Speaker 3: in a branch thirty feet a high, and it wasn't
Speaker 3: flat on the road. So all of a sudden you
Speaker 3: see that tree going I mean violently shaking. I mean
Speaker 3: violently shaking like a like a hurricane. And Ernie's like, look, man,
Speaker 3: look look at that blab upper and about thirty feet
Speaker 3: up there is a big black blob, like Ernie just said,
Speaker 3: shaking the heck out of this tree. And then that
Speaker 3: one cracks. I mean, I don't know if you ever
Speaker 3: heard one hundred foot two foot trees cracking, but it's
Speaker 3: very very loud, man with a scaring fruit out probably anybody.
Speaker 3: And we're just standing in there, man, just loving it.
Speaker 3: So they get done with all this, and I told Ernie,
Speaker 3: I said, look, dude, I can't believe this, and he goes, Greg,
Speaker 3: you asked for it, man, you asked for this. So
Speaker 3: what I like?
Speaker 2: Then we thanked them.
Speaker 3: We clapped, we cheered, and we gave her praise for
Speaker 3: such a show of power. So we walk up in
Speaker 3: front of the van. There we all went into Ernie's van.
Speaker 3: So every now and then the lightning from the passing
Speaker 3: a summer storm would light up the area just a bit.
Speaker 3: So it lit up and I'm looking between these two
Speaker 3: trees right there in front of us, and there's five
Speaker 3: bigfoot standing there. I'm talking big boys, shoulder to shoulder
Speaker 3: to shoulder all the way across a thirty thirty five
Speaker 3: foot area. Five of them took out whole space out
Speaker 3: standing shoulder to shoulder and it was only a flash
Speaker 3: and it was gone.
Speaker 2: So I'm like, O M G.
Speaker 3: And before I could even say anything, the niece goes,
Speaker 3: you won't believe what I just seen.
Speaker 2: So I'm like, well, here, man, what did you hear?
Speaker 3: Denise?
Speaker 2: She just said what I just told you?
Speaker 3: So like all man's I slapped her high five, told
Speaker 3: her I seen him, Ernie seeing them. So not only
Speaker 3: did we get that, we got to see the people
Speaker 3: that did it so so I mean, if that gives
Speaker 3: you any idea that they do stuff when I asked them.
Speaker 3: Another good example, Ernie had a guy come all the
Speaker 3: way from New York. I'll give you. His first name
Speaker 3: was Steven. He wanted a big foot of encounter. He's
Speaker 3: never had one in his life. It was just me, Ernie, Denise,
Speaker 3: him and one of his buddies from up there. We
Speaker 3: were the only ones there. Uh. I asked the Force
Speaker 3: people of his Father's Day just this year, back in June,
Speaker 3: just this year, I asked the Force people. I said, hey, man,
Speaker 3: is Father's Day today? And there's one I call Big Red.
Speaker 3: He's my buddy. He follows me everywhere. He's got beautiful
Speaker 3: red eyes, a glow, and that's what I call him,
Speaker 3: Big Red. So I asked him if he could do
Speaker 3: something special for all the fathers. I said, look, I
Speaker 3: know you're dad big Red. I said, do something, big
Speaker 3: bars push over a tree if you want, bro So
Speaker 3: I wasn't. Thirty seconds later again right on keey you
Speaker 3: hear it was. And this man is Rot memoirs how
Speaker 3: it changed his life that night. And that's just a
Speaker 3: few examples of what I do. But I can talk
Speaker 3: to him man and they and they do stuff that
Speaker 3: I asked him. I asked him to light their eyes up.
Speaker 3: I glow. I could go out to the woods any
Speaker 3: night of the week and they will be out there,
Speaker 3: just like he said, any woods Tennessee. In the end,
Speaker 3: and they follow me everywhere in the UC. I glow.
Speaker 3: They don't always push trees over. That's a big order.
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna ask them to push trees over all
Speaker 3: the time. Occasionally I will, and they do it.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 3: Ask them for a tree nock. They'll give me a
Speaker 3: tree nck. But when it's all said and done, like
Speaker 3: these see women from Tennessee told me just a couple
Speaker 3: of weeks ago, just remember squatch man, nobody can do
Speaker 3: what you can do. And I have hundreds of witnesses
Speaker 3: that have seen this. You know, it's just ain't me
Speaker 3: speaking this is I got so many witnesses that they've
Speaker 3: seen me do this. So, I mean, there's not too
Speaker 3: many people like me who can talk to the forest
Speaker 3: people and get them to do stuff. And that's gonna
Speaker 3: be uh, you know, when I'm dead and gone, people
Speaker 3: will probably remember me for that the most. You know
Speaker 3: that my relationship with them, my encounters, but mainly the
Speaker 3: respect and the love we have for each other.
Speaker 2: And it goes far. Man, that goes far. So.
Speaker 3: So, I mean I feel like I'm a very lucky
Speaker 3: man and a very blessed man with what I got
Speaker 3: going on with the forced people.
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Speaker 3: for five thousand. See, I got plenty of room, and yeah,
Speaker 3: I love I just love telling my stories. I got
Speaker 3: great evidence pictures I post from time to time, and
Speaker 3: I got you know on Facebook, you on the YouTube
Speaker 3: channel squatch Man TV Journey to the Truth. I got
Speaker 3: quite a few episodes on Earth.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Ever since COVID hit back in twenty twenty, we haven't
Speaker 3: been back back running since my son moved away. But
Speaker 3: he's coming back, so you know, just better with me.
Speaker 3: I'll be getting new stuff out. But what I got
Speaker 3: on there is pretty good. And I got a five
Speaker 3: part doctrmentry about the Louisville goat Man, and people would
Speaker 3: love seeing that. I proved that the Louisville goat Man
Speaker 3: is more than a myth, more than a legend, He's real.
Speaker 3: I had a good time coming on your show today.
Speaker 3: Seemed like a very nice young man.
Speaker 2: And I'll help, uh.
Speaker 3: You help people enjoy my show and I help I
Speaker 3: tell people some stuff that I needed to know and
Speaker 3: maybe educated some people about about divorced people.
Speaker 1: A hundred percent, thank you so much for coming on
Speaker 1: squatch Man. Before we wrap this episode, I want to
Speaker 1: say something directly to a very specific group of listeners.
Speaker 1: If you're in the military, any branch or forces, and
Speaker 1: if you've seen something that no one can explain, or
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