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claiming to be an expert, a bigfoot expert. I mean,

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come on, what the hell is a bigfoot expert? There

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is no such thing as an expert when it comes

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Speaker 2: They know in an instant that you were in the woods.

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There is no hiding from them, There is no being

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quiet or sneaking.

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Speaker 2: As soon as you walk in the woods, you walk

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in their front door, thinking that you are going to

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surprise them when you're only kidding yourself.

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Speaker 1: We have got to get it out of our heads

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that anecdotal evidence is not evidence. The best way, in

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my opinion, that we have to learn about these creatures

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right now is by listening to and talking to those

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that have experiperience them, those who have witnessed them and

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experienced them in their own environment.

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Speaker 2: We do what we do to try to bring a

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liar as to this topic, to be an open door

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for somebody to walk through, to be able to share

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their story, a listening ear, a support pold for those

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who have had their own encounters with that which is not.

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Speaker 1: Supposed to exist. We've got to open our eyes people.

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There is something out there. All of these thousands of

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people that have seen something, they're not all aligned, they're

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not all crazy. There are some very reputable, good people

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out there that have seen something. We got mister Jake

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backstage and I am going to bring him out right now. Jake,

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Goob's that buddy.

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Speaker 4: How's it going going?

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Speaker 1: Very very well? Thank you so much for hanging out

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with this. You are in the great state of Michigan, correct.

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Speaker 4: I am, yeah, very very cool.

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Speaker 1: You are also a filmmaker, you.

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Speaker 4: Can say that. Yeah, that'll be fine. I'm a novice,

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but yeah, filmmaker, filmmakers good. I appreciate that.

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taking the time to come out. I know you wanted

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to talk about some of the projects that you're working

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on and all of that, and I mean, I'm I'm

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gonna hand you the floor, but before I do, I

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want you to start with what got you interested in

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this topic of Bigfoot, cryptid dog Man? Just what got

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you interested in all of it? What's your background and

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just tell us a little bit about yourself and what

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Absolutely, thanks for having me on again. I think

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Bigfoot's been something that's kind of been in and out

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of my life throughout my life. You know, I'm thirty now,

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so it's been quite a long time that it has

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made an impression on me in a bunch of different ways.

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hairy man that runs the forest right and going up

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to northern Michigan a lot on family vacations, whether it's

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visiting Graham and Grandpa that lived up there, cousins that

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lived throughout the Lower Peninsula and the Upper portion. You know,

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up near the top of the Mitten, so to speak.

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years old. Happened during the summertime, on summer break up

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in a county called Mount Moreenzi County, which is I

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always like to show people. It's like this area up here,

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we have the luxury of using our hands, so it's

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pretty far north. It was a very wooded area. And

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to kind of make a long story, after hearing what

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sounded like something either paralleling me or walking towards me

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in the woodline. I finally caught a glance of this

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figure that was down on all fours. I assumed it

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was a bear. It stands up as soon as you know,

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as soon as it stands up, I can notice the

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broadness of the shoulders, I can notice what looked like

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arms drooped down to its sides. It did not look

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still didn't know what it was, just kind of stood

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there in amazement for a few moments until it dropped

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adulthood of where I was like, well, you know, I

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can do what I want now. There's no need to

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all that kind of stuff, the stories that I grew

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thing that I fell in love with was filmmaking and videography.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, now, are or my mate, Jake, are you former

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law enforcement or are you still law enforcement?

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Speaker 4: Former? So I'm no longer in that. I do still

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with any like big three letter agencies or anything. Definitely

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more municipal work with the municipal government. But it is

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still one of those things of like you kind of

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keep this topic hushed and keep it to yourself, especially

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dealing with the public every day like I do in

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the in the setting and the importance that I'm in.

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Speaker 1: So okay, So while you were active, you know, law enforcement,

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can you recall a time where you took a call

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and I used it in the project that me and

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my friends made Woodline years ago. It was kind of

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topic in Michigan, super small scale. I'm not happy with

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it still today. I mean, it's got a couple hundred

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a couple hundred views. It's got a couple thousand views

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got it through Foyer Freedom of Information Act after I

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heard about it from some friends who were dispatching up

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around the area. They basically knew me in private life

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weird call the other day and I was like, all right,

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what do you got And they told me about it

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went through chain of command to get to get the

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rights to it, and I still have a copy of that,

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which is cool. But this elderly woman called in. It

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was an area in Oakland County. For those aren't who

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from where like Detroit sits, so it's still super urban.

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like they have our biggest cities outside of Detroit. So

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your little bit of farmland towards the north. But where

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percent like an urban senate. And she placed a call

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it said, Hey, I don't know what I'm looking at,

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but I saw something on my ring doorbell. I'm rewatching

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the footage now. It kind of looks like a human,

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and I didn't see the video because there was no video.

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which is what police officers will put in their run themselves,

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not even like a full narrative. It's literally just like

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officer so and so, dispatch of this time, officer arrived

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this time, Like I have a copy of that, And

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strange figure was the only way that it was worded,

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like that's an odd way to put that. But hearing

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her voice and then putting that film, it was kind

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like a ghost, if it was an anomaly, if it

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, you're a filmmaker, it would be awesome

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, And that was kind of the goal of when

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Speaker 4: Yeah, if you know. Like I said, I'm sure I

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appreciate you bringing it up because if I got some

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slow time at work, I might be able to to

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if I can. But that happened in gosh, was that

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Speaker 1: But yeah, so I'm interested to hear what you've been

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working on, because you know the title of the show

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to not big Foot dog Man Filmmaker. You have something

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just kind of my peace of mind of nothing's on

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throw a comment when I can catch them. Everybody listening

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everybody tonight? Shout out to everybody that's here on behalf

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dive a little bit into that, I went in one

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hundred percent of like, I'm making a big Foot film.

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You can't talk me out of it. Bigfoot's the star

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of my film. Don't know how I'm gonna do it

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on a low budget. I don't have great CGI, don't

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want to put it on the CGI. Maybe I'll get

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a costume. You know, these are all the things running

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through my head while I'm trying to create this. To

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jump back a little bit, the reason that I kind

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of sat on this path was of how disappointed I

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am with the first project I did back in twenty

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one or twenty two with Woodline. We released it straight

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to YouTube. Like I said, I think the other day

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when I checked and sitting around fifteen thousand views for

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somebody that's never put out content like that was my

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first legit, like, hey, here you go. I was happy

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with that, but I watched it back and I was

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just as me trying to learn more about film. I'm like,

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my god, you did such a horrible job like that.

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Imagery looks terrible, that camera could have been better, that

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audio is poor, you know, the whole nine. Shooting myself

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down as always do creatively. But from that, I knew

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I wanted to create something better, something like I put

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more time in head, a solid script, write it down,

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YadA YadA. So reach out to my best friend Jesse,

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who works on pretty much all the projects that we do.

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and that I give him stupid ideas almost every day,

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and I say, hey, what do you think of this?

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When I did that, I threw this out and he goes,

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I love it. We need to make it. What is

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it about? And I give him the story, like from

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start to end in like a three paragraph text. I'm like,

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here's my idea. He goes, you know, like reading this,

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I got chills. Like the way that you're describing it

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sounds great. Can we pull this off? And when he

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said that, I don't know what it triggered in my head,

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but I was like, how many bigfoot films are in

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existence right now? Like if you sit and you think

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about it, I'm talking like found footage, I'm talking bigfoots.

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The antagonists He's.

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Speaker 3: Stay tuned for more. But that they quit Reford, We'll

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be right back.

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Speaker 4: The protagonist Henry Harry and the Henderson's type vibe like

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there's so many bigfoot films and that's not a bad

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thing because I love watching them. I probably have seen

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the large majority of them, and if I haven't, I'll

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find the next one on YouTube and watch it tonight.

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Like that's just what I do. With that being said,

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it put in my mind of like you want to

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stand out, you want to be like the next Like

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you would like this to be your full time career.

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How are you going to stand out in the millions?

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Why don't you create something that really nobody else has created,

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or at least not on a large scale. And I

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started thinking, well, where can I pull inspiration from? And

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I heard a song that highlights the legend of dog Man.

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And when I heard that song, which I've heard before,

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but for whatever reason, on this day, it literally came

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across my Spotify shuffle because it's in there. I heard

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the song and I was like, that's it, Like, I

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have to make this film around dog Man, not Bigfoot,

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and that's what we're planning on doing. So for the

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last probably two months now, I have just been writing

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and reading and rewriting and rereading, and it's been a

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constant move. But I'm finally at the point where I've

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gone through the first draft, i gone through the second draft.

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I'm finally on my third final like putting finishing touches

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on the script so that we can set a timeline

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to begin shooting and hopefully get this thing out before

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the end of next year. That's my goal.

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Speaker 1: So this is a fictional film. You're writing it.

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Speaker 4: This is a fictional film. It is scripted. I will

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say that it's kind of fiction meets reality in a sense.

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And what I mean by that is a lot of

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the stuff that I plan on touching on and having

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my actors portray and say anderience throughout the film is

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all based on supposed real events. It's based on real encounters.

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It's based on real legends that have been shared as

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far as stories have passed down. I will say I

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am working with a notable songwriter. I will just say

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I really wish I could give the name, but I

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do want to leave it at that. I am working

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with a notable songwriter, pretty well known throughout Michigan, fairly

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well known throughout the Midwest. He's helped inspire this project

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a lot, and I am picking pieces from his past

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work and kind of sprinkling them here, dabbling them there

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to really create this overall project.

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Speaker 1: Wow, so he is well on to the Michigan area.

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Speaker 4: He is, Yeah, he is. And it's the one thing, like,

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if I said his name, it kind of gives away

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my entire plotline here. So that's the one reason, you know,

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I don't I don't want to release it, but I

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will say that the uh, the whole legend of the

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dog Man is super well known throughout Michigan. Obviously it's

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Wisconsin like and that's what I look to touch on.

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I look to touch on heavily in my area. The

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things that I inspired me growing up, those campfire stories.

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Like I said, one of the songs that I listened to,

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the guy that I've been able to collaborate with, which

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you know, it's funny you bring up the trying to

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track down the woman that had the nine one one call.

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I feel like I could probably do it because if

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you would have, if you would know, and I can

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tell you backstage the lengths that I had to go

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to get in contact with this guy just to like, hey, look,

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let me pitch you my idea, like I'm pitching a

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television series here to a Hollywood producer, Like can I

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do this? Can I get your blessing and your allowance

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to take what you've done and go one step further

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with it? And it's like I never met this individual,

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Like to me, he's a stranger. He's if you want

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to say, has some low level fame. He's pretty well known.

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He's worked in radio, he's worked on different film projects

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throughout the state, throughout the Midwest. So it was really

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like just that it's just that pressure inside of me

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to want to create a film of like I guess,

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going to whatever lengths I gotta do to get it done.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I mean it's pretty well accepted that

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Michigan is the dog man capital of the US. Do

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you have any idea as to why that is? Why

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would why would there be more prevalent sidings of dog

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man in Michigan rus other states?

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Speaker 4: I really don't know, honestly. I mean, you know, I'm

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pretty Michigan biased because I live here, I was born

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and raised here. I mean, if I move right now,

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you can see two things. Both had the state. My

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shirt even has you know, it's one of the I'm

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my sixteen twenty one shirt has the state on it.

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I mean, we're I'm very patriotic when it comes to

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my state. But when you're talking about why for a

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cryptid it's a hot spot and maybe the hottest spot

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in all of the hot spots, like hotter than anywhere else,

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I don't know why, because our our ecology is not

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that unique, you know, it's really not. We have the

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same thing every other state has. Where a northern state

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you get snow like our temperatures get well below freezing

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it into the zub Zeros like. I don't. I don't

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know why. I wish I knew or even had an idea,

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because I don't.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I wish, I wish I knew too.

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I mean, I don't know. But there are so many

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reports coming out of Michigan. I mean, you're right next

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to Ohio. I mean you hear some from Ohio, but

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not as many. I just I don't know what it

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is man is there? Because when I first got into

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this and I I'm killed, I'm still kind of in

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the belief that I don't know where I stand on

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dog man. Maybe it's a misidentified bigfoot. That's kind of

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where I stand. But when you talk to people that

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have had these experiences, they say, no, this is not

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this was not a bigfoot. This was a dog on

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human feet or human legs or whatever. And I just

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don't know what to make of that, you know, and

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why Michigan has so many more than others. I just

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I can't wrap my head around.

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Speaker 4: I don't know either. Maybe it's I mean, we got

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a pretty high incarceration rate. Maybe maybe people are nuts.

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I don't know, you know, no, I you know, in

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all seriousness, I really don't know. And I've sighed with you.

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I mean, I'm making a film that the main I

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didn't want to say main character, but the main antagonist

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at the end is a dog man. But I'm with you.

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I don't really fully believe in the subject. I mean,

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I'm using using it to uh to hopefully create something

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that people like here and can set me on a

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path to uh to maybe do something more permanent in

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my life one day. But you know, I'm not willing

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to put all my eggs in the basket and say, hey, yeah,

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this thing exists. Uh, there's there's far too many questions

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for me still if it does or not.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So where are you on the whole Bigfoot thing?

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Do you Are you confident that it's a real phenomenon.

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Speaker 4: I'm confident that it exists, yes, which is kind of

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a it's a double ed chores sword for me because

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even with my own encounter, I think it happens so

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fast and it's been so many years now that I

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do go back and I'm like, is that really what

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you experienced? You know? The characteristics that literally have burnt

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into my mind. I don't know what else it would

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have been. But I still hold that doubt of like,

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am I one of the lucky ones? You know, if

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that makes sense to be in a lucky one? But

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speaking on its existence overall, I'm one hundred percent of like,

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there's no doubt in my mind it does exist. But

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which brings up another point. You ask for the dog

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man of why Michigan soul heavily populated here. I kind

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of thought the same thing about Bigfoot, even like I

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always grew up thinking and kind of being told like Washington, Oregon,

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northern California, that's it. Getting get older, Yeah, yeah, just

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the Pacific Northwest. And then you know, I grow up

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and you hear the stories and it's like, no, these

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things are They're everywhere, and it makes sense that they're everywhere,

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But it's like, what is it about Ohio that so

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many more people see them? And they put that state

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so high up? Just like with Washington, you can go

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back to the rainforests and the thick rain and everything,

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and it's easy to hide. But like Ohio, like southern Ohio,

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you got some hills, but even a lot of the

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majority of Ohio's flat land, like it's just as flat

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as Michigan. So yeah, just a question.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a great, great point, Jake, because I spoke

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at a conference last year in Ohio and I'm doing

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the same one this year. In Ohio. My son went

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with me, my oldest boy, and we kept talking about

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how just how freaking flat it was, and how every

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every town we went through looked like it was haunted.

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Every house down there looked like it was a haunted house.

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That's neither here nor there. But I mean, to your point, yet,

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why is Ohio ranked so high on the list? Why

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isn't I mean, Kentucky is pretty high, but why isn't Michigan.

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Why isn't Indiana the states that you know kind of

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border it almost, Why aren't they as high as Ohio?

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I don't get it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's even like and I've never been, so

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before you start killing me in the I've never been.

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But Texas is like one of those high states too.

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For is that not all just flat like land? I mean,

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am I wrong on that?

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Speaker 1: Flat? Hot as hell? I've never been to Texas either,

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but I've heard stories, But I mean, it's flat, it's

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hot as you know what, And I mean, why why

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would it undiscovered ape or primate? Why would it thrive

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in the area like Texas.

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Speaker 4: It's crazy. Like to me, those are the things that

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don't make sense. Like and I'm I'm firm it exists.

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It's out there. But six hundred pound, six seven foot

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tall ape running around the plains of Texas. That doesn't

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make sense to me. So like if you were to

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ask me, or you were to tell me, hey, it

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only exists in Texas, I'd say, yeah, you're full of shit,

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it's not real. But the fact that it's everywhere, it's like, Okay,

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well maybe it can Adad, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: And then you get the whole the Bigfoot. You can

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make arguments, yeah, this is an undiscovered primate. The Gigantopithecus.

473
00:26:07,759 --> 00:26:10,119
You know, I was just talking about this past weekend.

474
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:15,839
Gigantopithecus is believed to have existed. I mean, it's pretty

475
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:20,160
much proven to have existed, not that long ago as

476
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:26,480
far as you know environmentally and ecology and all of

477
00:26:26,519 --> 00:26:30,680
that speaking, it wasn't really that long ago, but we

478
00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:34,400
have bones and stuff for Gigantipithecus. But that was an

479
00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:38,640
ape that was like a ten foot tall ape that

480
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:41,680
we believe walked upright due to the fossils that we have,

481
00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:46,240
so we can explain how possibly they're here. With the

482
00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:50,119
land bridge, you know, before the continent separated and all

483
00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:53,079
that stuff, they were able to cross, and so we

484
00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:56,880
can understand that what the fuck is a dog man?

485
00:26:58,000 --> 00:26:59,599
Where does that come from?

486
00:27:00,079 --> 00:27:01,119
Speaker 4: It's the golden question.

487
00:27:02,039 --> 00:27:04,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, and there so many people will talk about it

488
00:27:04,559 --> 00:27:12,240
being that government created or something like that. I don't know.

489
00:27:12,759 --> 00:27:15,400
I mean, where, where on where the hell did it good?

490
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:16,759
Did a dog make come from?

491
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:20,400
Speaker 4: No, yeah, that's an excellent question, because I'll be honest,

492
00:27:20,559 --> 00:27:23,799
I sighed more on if it's a real thing, and

493
00:27:23,839 --> 00:27:27,759
my mind goes to misidentification as far as a bigfoot

494
00:27:27,839 --> 00:27:30,319
nine times out of ten. Now again, I'm pretty heavily

495
00:27:30,559 --> 00:27:32,839
you know, in the camp of like big what's real?

496
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:36,359
So of course my mind's gonna go there. But yeah,

497
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:38,160
I don't know, because I've heard the same stories as you.

498
00:27:38,799 --> 00:27:41,039
More so trying to read into more reports doing the

499
00:27:41,039 --> 00:27:43,640
whole project I'm working on. But of like the ones

500
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:46,440
that go, yeah, I had a snout like a German shepherd,

501
00:27:46,519 --> 00:27:48,480
and I had pointed ears it looked like, you know

502
00:27:48,559 --> 00:27:50,240
this dog. It looked like that dog. And I'm like,

503
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:53,880
it doesn't make sense to me, Like none of this

504
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:55,640
is making sense in my mind.

505
00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:58,720
Speaker 1: No, No, I want to take a second to say

506
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:02,279
hello to Amber. Amber is my new friend that I'm

507
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:09,480
very fond of. Thank you for joining us, Amber. All right? Uh,

508
00:28:09,599 --> 00:28:14,160
but yeah, man, I agree, I agree with you. I

509
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:18,680
just I don't understand why these people that believe in

510
00:28:18,799 --> 00:28:23,480
dog Man, I'm gonna, I'm gonna piss so many people off,

511
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:26,599
so many people that I care about, And I hate

512
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,079
that because I've already had this talk with a couple

513
00:28:29,079 --> 00:28:34,279
of people. But I just don't understand why it's so

514
00:28:34,799 --> 00:28:39,559
hard for them to accept that this could be a

515
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:42,200
misidentified big Foot. I mean, why do you have to

516
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:45,039
Why does it have to be something completely different?

517
00:28:47,079 --> 00:28:51,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a good question, you know. I I don't know.

518
00:28:52,119 --> 00:28:56,519
It depends. Everybody's different. Everybody's got their their strong opinions

519
00:28:56,519 --> 00:28:59,440
on one thing or another. I guess maybe it's just

520
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:02,000
the older I'm I fall more into that gray area

521
00:29:02,799 --> 00:29:06,880
of like it if if I were to meet like

522
00:29:08,599 --> 00:29:11,759
the Almighty, so to speak, the one that knew everything,

523
00:29:12,519 --> 00:29:16,079
and they told me, hey, everything you've heard about Bigfoot.

524
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:20,599
It's made up, like it's been convoluted. Their stories. It's

525
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:23,799
been passed down because of this encounter with this ape

526
00:29:23,799 --> 00:29:25,799
that lived a long time ago. The people that came

527
00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:27,680
here used it as a fear story to keep their

528
00:29:27,759 --> 00:29:30,519
kids and relatives out of the woods. YadA, YadA, YadA.

529
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:34,359
If that was like the ultimate truth, I'm okay with it.

530
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:36,480
Like I'd be like, okay, well, you know, it was

531
00:29:36,519 --> 00:29:39,160
fun while lasted kind of you know, it changes, it

532
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:41,319
would change a lot of my perspective on some things.

533
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:45,599
But to that, I don't like you. I just don't

534
00:29:45,599 --> 00:29:48,160
get why so many people are like dead set. I'm like,

535
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:51,400
this is what it is. You can't tell me any differently.

536
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:54,279
Blah blah blah. Very like closed minded. I don't know.

537
00:29:54,359 --> 00:29:56,759
I think open minded this, especially when you're talking about

538
00:29:56,799 --> 00:30:00,240
what we're talking about now, is like a requisite to

539
00:30:00,279 --> 00:30:02,759
even speak of it. In my opinion, you got to

540
00:30:02,839 --> 00:30:03,079
keep it.

541
00:30:03,119 --> 00:30:07,160
Speaker 3: Open night, stay tuned for more. But the big flipper

542
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:08,920
for it. We'll be right back.

543
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:15,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I agree with that. You you absolutely have to.

544
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:19,319
I mean, I just I don't know. I don't know

545
00:30:19,319 --> 00:30:23,960
what to make of this whole this whole dog Man phenomena.

546
00:30:24,079 --> 00:30:27,160
And I don't want to make people mad. I don't.

547
00:30:27,319 --> 00:30:30,039
But at the same time, I got to be true

548
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:33,599
to myself and I have to be honest, and I

549
00:30:33,799 --> 00:30:38,039
just I don't know. I don't know what to make

550
00:30:38,039 --> 00:30:40,400
of it. You know, we're doing the Squatch out coming

551
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:42,359
out coming up here at the end of the month,

552
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:46,160
and it's at the Lbo the land between the lakes,

553
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:50,200
and there is a very very famous story of a

554
00:30:50,319 --> 00:30:55,920
family being massacred there. I don't know where to go

555
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:57,680
with that. Are you familiar with that story?

556
00:30:58,279 --> 00:31:00,319
Speaker 4: I'm not. I love to hear if you want share,

557
00:31:00,319 --> 00:31:01,279
because I'm not familiar.

558
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:08,240
Speaker 1: It was in the late seventies, early eighties or something

559
00:31:08,279 --> 00:31:10,559
like that. There was a family that was camping there

560
00:31:10,559 --> 00:31:13,519
and they were in a camper. It was a mom

561
00:31:13,559 --> 00:31:16,880
and dad, a boy and a girl, if I remember correctly,

562
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:21,400
a son and a daughter. The son was the older one.

563
00:31:22,319 --> 00:31:26,359
This family was completely torn apart by something. I mean,

564
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:31,559
it was terrible. Supposedly someone came out a few years

565
00:31:31,599 --> 00:31:36,119
back and claim to have been there. There were a

566
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:38,119
friend of the family, and they were there. They hid

567
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:41,160
while the whole thing happened. I don't know, but it

568
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:44,200
came out and it was a huge story. People kept

569
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:48,000
talking about it. But this whole entire family was massacred

570
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:53,200
and you cannot find any information on it. Okay, So

571
00:31:54,119 --> 00:31:56,400
can you not find any information on it because it

572
00:31:56,440 --> 00:32:00,119
didn't happen, or can you not find any information on

573
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:04,160
it because they covered it up. That's always the thing

574
00:32:04,319 --> 00:32:07,759
that conspiracy people will go to. Well, you know, they

575
00:32:07,799 --> 00:32:09,680
don't want you to know, so they covered it up.

576
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:13,480
I mean, really, who are you supposed to believe?

577
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:18,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, that gets hard. That's you know, I can relate

578
00:32:18,359 --> 00:32:22,559
to that. It's funny. One of the things I do.

579
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:25,279
I won't go too much into my job, but part

580
00:32:25,319 --> 00:32:28,559
of my full time job is I do handle foil

581
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:32,640
requests that come into to the municipality I work for.

582
00:32:34,559 --> 00:32:37,519
And I've heard and it makes me relate as somebody

583
00:32:37,519 --> 00:32:41,240
that actually does it every single day of like reading

584
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:42,960
what this person wants, I got to go try to

585
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:46,480
find it, and if I can't find it, even on

586
00:32:46,559 --> 00:32:50,599
a regular like body camp footage, like theyn't want body

587
00:32:50,599 --> 00:32:52,960
camp footage, and I got to tell them, hey, the

588
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,279
officer didn't record it that day, and they'll be like, oh,

589
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:57,920
that's a lie. I know he recorded it. He has

590
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:00,799
to record it, and I'm like, well, he I don't

591
00:33:00,799 --> 00:33:04,039
know what to tell you. It doesn't exist. So it's

592
00:33:04,119 --> 00:33:05,920
kind of that fine line every time I hear those

593
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,119
kind of stories of like is it a cover up

594
00:33:08,359 --> 00:33:12,799
or did it really just not happen? My mind, as

595
00:33:12,839 --> 00:33:15,480
bad as it probably sounds, is it goes to more

596
00:33:15,599 --> 00:33:18,200
so towards it just didn't happen, rather than it's a

597
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:23,079
cover up. Now, of course, something like that story, I

598
00:33:23,119 --> 00:33:25,319
could live in the gray area of like if it's

599
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:29,400
a big enough incident to where it could cause either

600
00:33:29,519 --> 00:33:33,319
public panic, it could divide some lines, it has some

601
00:33:33,359 --> 00:33:36,079
sort of actual legit controversy, I could see a cover up.

602
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:40,240
But your typical roadside crossing of a bigfoot and like, yeah,

603
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:42,200
the police came out and I've put a report out,

604
00:33:42,279 --> 00:33:45,680
Like they're not gonna put in their report, you know,

605
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:49,440
man reported seeing bigfoot. They're gonna put man reported seeing

606
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:54,319
unknown suspect, unknown creature. Like they're most of the time

607
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:58,759
not putting specific words because they don't want it to

608
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:01,720
head back lashing in there own like you know, within

609
00:34:01,759 --> 00:34:03,960
their own departments. They don't want to look weird to

610
00:34:04,039 --> 00:34:06,160
their co workers. They don't want things to get denied,

611
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:08,320
have to do extra light work all because of this. Like,

612
00:34:09,039 --> 00:34:11,559
and I'm not saying that I'm speaking for everybody. I'm

613
00:34:11,599 --> 00:34:14,239
just speaking from my own personal experience of what I've

614
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:17,880
experienced and those that I've talked to. But again, it's

615
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:19,559
kind of that gray area. And like you said, is

616
00:34:19,599 --> 00:34:21,559
it a cover up or it it just not exists?

617
00:34:21,599 --> 00:34:32,519
Speaker 1: You know, so many damn questions, so many damn questions

618
00:34:32,519 --> 00:34:35,119
that we would never know the answer to.

619
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:38,679
Speaker 4: That's a pretty wild story though, from that will be all.

620
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:39,639
I've never heard.

621
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:41,920
Speaker 1: That it is. Look it up, man, I mean, it's

622
00:34:42,039 --> 00:34:45,679
been out there. It's like folklore. People talk about it,

623
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:50,199
you know, quite a bit. But again, you can't find

624
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:53,880
anything on it as far as official documents.

625
00:34:54,159 --> 00:34:59,119
Speaker 4: Yeah, isn't that similar? Like and if anybody out there,

626
00:34:59,159 --> 00:35:01,639
even you know, Wayne, it's somebody doesn't know. All apologies

627
00:35:01,679 --> 00:35:05,079
ahead of time. But I've never looked too much into

628
00:35:05,199 --> 00:35:07,280
the Uh. I don't even know how to pronounce it.

629
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:09,840
De vaulty pass? Is that what it is over in Russia?

630
00:35:10,559 --> 00:35:10,719
Speaker 2: Uh?

631
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:12,519
Speaker 1: Diet love pass?

632
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:17,559
Speaker 4: Is that how you pronounce it? Okay, where they supposedly

633
00:35:17,639 --> 00:35:21,960
saw some sort of creature that ended up attacking everybody

634
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:24,960
and killing everybody. But there was a show.

635
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 1: I've done a show on that, maybe even a couple

636
00:35:28,039 --> 00:35:30,599
shows on the d aut Law Pass is what it is,

637
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:35,920
and that happened over in Russia. That was crazy, man,

638
00:35:36,079 --> 00:35:42,440
it it absolutely one happened. What happened to these kids

639
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:46,119
that were on that and they were experienced hikers. This

640
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:49,519
wasn't just let's go for a hike. These people were

641
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:51,679
They've been doing it their whole lives. They were like

642
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:53,760
taking a class on it or something. They knew what

643
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:57,760
the hell they were doing, okay, and they were going

644
00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:03,119
up this pass and just when they found their bodies,

645
00:36:03,199 --> 00:36:06,960
I mean the stuff that happened to them, Like there

646
00:36:07,159 --> 00:36:09,639
were a couple of them. Their their chests were crushed

647
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:14,559
and the coroners reported it being similar to a high

648
00:36:14,599 --> 00:36:20,320
speed car accident. They were hiking. What the hell you

649
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:24,599
know this? One lady had her tongue cut out or

650
00:36:24,639 --> 00:36:30,840
torn out. Others were missing their eyes. And when they

651
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:34,400
found the tent that they were sleeping in when all

652
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:38,559
this occurred, they cut their way out from the inside

653
00:36:39,159 --> 00:36:44,360
of the tent. That's proven. Their shoes, their boots, their

654
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:48,079
clothes were left behind because they left in such a

655
00:36:48,119 --> 00:36:54,400
hurry because something was fucking with them, so I mean,

656
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:58,760
and then they had that one famous shot of some

657
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:02,719
that that looks like lot like a bigfoot. I know

658
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:06,000
you've seen it. It looks a lot like a bigfoot

659
00:37:06,039 --> 00:37:09,360
type creature that was staring at them, But they've just

660
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:14,239
played that off. I don't know. And what's interesting, Brian

661
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:16,199
and I talked about this on an episode of that

662
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:23,840
Bigfoot podcast. After that, there was another incident like ad

663
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:27,800
at Law Passed Part two in the same area I believe,

664
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:33,480
where someone actually survived and they got away, and this

665
00:37:33,599 --> 00:37:37,719
lady talked about witnessing these people go just fucking crazy.

666
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:42,599
They were like bashing their heads into rocks, they were

667
00:37:43,159 --> 00:37:47,440
just doing all kinds of weird stuff. So I don't

668
00:37:47,519 --> 00:37:53,519
know if that was like the Russians experimenting with like

669
00:37:54,039 --> 00:37:56,519
gases and stuff like that and made them go crazy.

670
00:37:57,400 --> 00:37:59,440
I don't know. But the whole dat Law Pass thing

671
00:37:59,519 --> 00:38:00,320
really happened.

672
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:04,800
Speaker 4: Okay, Yeah, that's you know, is as bad as it is.

673
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:07,639
I get my information on that from TikTok videos, So

674
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:09,440
I can't trust what I see.

675
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:11,440
Speaker 1: TikTok.

676
00:38:11,559 --> 00:38:14,599
Speaker 4: Dude, you can, but you can also experience a lot

677
00:38:14,599 --> 00:38:17,159
of brain rot and just waste hours at a time, you know,

678
00:38:17,679 --> 00:38:19,760
but I have seen the picture that that picture is,

679
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:22,920
like I can imagine it now. Yeah, I don't know,

680
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:26,440
that's pretty crazy. You know, there's a lot of that's

681
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:28,159
a whole different tangent you can get on. But there's

682
00:38:28,159 --> 00:38:30,719
been a lot of government, you know, cover ups that

683
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:34,639
have come out, especially around that time frame that I

684
00:38:34,639 --> 00:38:36,800
could see either or you know, I could I could

685
00:38:37,039 --> 00:38:39,840
understand it being a big Foot type creature, or I

686
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:42,719
could see the government just fucking with people and experimenting.

687
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:49,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, and there's so many videos, like one of the

688
00:38:49,639 --> 00:38:54,719
most compelling videos I've seen a big that happened in Russia.

689
00:38:55,159 --> 00:38:56,960
I mean, there's a lot that comes out of there.

690
00:38:57,599 --> 00:39:00,559
I'm talking about the one with the little boys are

691
00:39:00,599 --> 00:39:04,280
out looking and there, following this trackway and then all

692
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:07,000
of a sudden they see this big black thing stand

693
00:39:07,079 --> 00:39:09,519
up and look at it, and they all break the

694
00:39:09,519 --> 00:39:14,000
hell out and run away. Yeah that's something, man, Those

695
00:39:14,119 --> 00:39:15,199
kids were not faking.

696
00:39:16,039 --> 00:39:18,960
Speaker 4: Yeah. I like the long version of that video too,

697
00:39:19,039 --> 00:39:21,239
because like you can catch the snippet of where it

698
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:23,239
stands up and it takes off, and that's what you see,

699
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:24,079
Like the most.

700
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:25,280
Speaker 1: You know, don't you.

701
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:29,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, but if you watch like the original, I

702
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:31,280
think you can still find on YouTube. It's been years.

703
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:33,599
I've tried, but I don't. I can't imagine. I got

704
00:39:33,599 --> 00:39:37,360
taken down where they're just walking like along the woods,

705
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:39,679
like having a friendly I don't know what they're saying, obviously,

706
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:42,000
but like they're just bantering as kids do, and this

707
00:39:42,079 --> 00:39:45,199
goes on for several minutes before they finally come across

708
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:49,480
this thing. So like even yeah, and.

709
00:39:49,679 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 1: The whole I watched a couple of videos with you know,

710
00:39:53,039 --> 00:39:55,280
you all saw me bring up Amber earlier. That's that's

711
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:59,519
my girlfriend, Hello Amber. I watched a couple of videos

712
00:39:59,519 --> 00:40:03,880
with her this week, and one of them was the

713
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:06,800
There are a couple of my favorites. The ATV writer

714
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:11,440
that's going through the creek through the water and he's

715
00:40:11,519 --> 00:40:15,320
never placed a Bigfoot video before in his life. He's

716
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:17,800
just not into that. He always does like ATV videos.

717
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:20,840
He's on his four wheeler in the creek and he's

718
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:25,239
going along in something big and black or brown walks

719
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:26,840
in front of him in the creek. Have you seen

720
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:27,199
that one?

721
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:29,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm familiar.

722
00:40:30,079 --> 00:40:34,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's a great one, in my opinion,

723
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:36,800
that's one of the best. So we watched that one

724
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:43,719
this weekend. And another one was the kids in Canada

725
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:46,440
that were the high school students that were making a

726
00:40:46,559 --> 00:40:50,440
video for school for like a project or something like that,

727
00:40:51,079 --> 00:40:53,440
and it showed they had no idea anything was going

728
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:56,280
to happen. They showed this kid running and that was

729
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:59,519
all film. That was all stage. This kid running toward him.

730
00:40:59,880 --> 00:41:03,360
And as this kid runs out this open field, you

731
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:06,559
see this giant ape thing come like on all fours,

732
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:10,639
come tramping, look like a gorilla. Have you seen it?

733
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:13,639
Speaker 4: I don't think I've seen that. I've seen like something similar.

734
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:18,840
Speaker 1: Okay, I'll send it to you that. That's so compelling

735
00:41:19,159 --> 00:41:23,159
because there's not gorillas in the wild in Canada as

736
00:41:23,159 --> 00:41:23,719
far as I.

737
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:28,719
Speaker 4: Know, not that I know, not unless they had some zooistap.

738
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:32,239
Speaker 1: But yeah, that I mean, that would be it. But

739
00:41:32,639 --> 00:41:35,960
I mean, it's amazing. This kid is filming this other kid.

740
00:41:36,079 --> 00:41:39,000
He says action. This kid runs out of the woods

741
00:41:39,039 --> 00:41:41,639
toward him and then as he's running, you see this

742
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:45,920
huge thing come loping out from right to left and

743
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:48,920
the kid says, what was that or something like that.

744
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:51,880
I mean, it was it's such good film.

745
00:41:52,559 --> 00:41:54,760
Speaker 4: Wow, Yeah, I'd love to see that. If you remember

746
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:56,000
to send it to me, I'll check that off.

747
00:41:56,079 --> 00:41:58,599
Speaker 1: I will. If I can find it, I'll send it

748
00:41:58,639 --> 00:41:58,840
to you.

749
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:02,440
Speaker 4: Okay, I do have a question for you, and I'm

750
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:05,679
going to try to word this appropriately and if it's

751
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:08,400
something you don't want to speak on, totally get it

752
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:11,079
and I respect it. With your squatch out coming up,

753
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:12,679
I know you've been doing it for a couple of

754
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:17,920
years and I don't know. I think she was a

755
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:22,000
former speaker, but you talked to somebody one time years ago,

756
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:26,039
very controversial, and I know Brian has shared the episode.

757
00:42:26,079 --> 00:42:28,000
I know you guys have talked about her since then.

758
00:42:28,679 --> 00:42:31,840
I don't want to do you know what I'm talking about. Yeah,

759
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:34,719
have you have you in your your time going out

760
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:36,880
in the woods, have you ever tried some of the

761
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:40,199
words that she claimed were communication words? Have you ever

762
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:41,639
tried to announce those.

763
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:46,159
Speaker 1: I've been in the woods with her, okay, and I

764
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:50,440
have watched her do it firsthand. Okay, and I have

765
00:42:52,599 --> 00:42:56,920
I've witnessed her claim to get a response. I did

766
00:42:56,920 --> 00:43:00,320
not get the response. I didn't hear anything, I didn't

767
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:04,719
feel anything. And it's because I guess I'm not enlightened enough.

768
00:43:06,519 --> 00:43:11,000
I don't know, but I mean to answer your question, no,

769
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:13,000
I mean, huh huh.

770
00:43:13,679 --> 00:43:18,039
Speaker 4: Okay, It's one of those things I'm tell you. I'm

771
00:43:18,119 --> 00:43:21,960
drawing inspiration from everywhere. I'm picking little pieces from Bigfoot

772
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:26,400
stuff because Bigfoot, you know, for those that are interested

773
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:28,960
in it, and I hope I don't. I'll be honest

774
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:30,599
with you, I don't know where I plan to release it.

775
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:34,400
This kind of to jump back to the film, this

776
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:38,519
in mind is really something that I thought the initial

777
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:43,159
presentation of it, I am and plan on pitching to

778
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:47,320
local film festivals. So when it is complete, I don't

779
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:51,639
plan on putting it directly onto YouTube. I'm not trying

780
00:43:51,679 --> 00:43:53,840
with a goal of mine to get on any streaming service.

781
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:58,639
I am trying to get it shown locally. First. One,

782
00:43:58,679 --> 00:44:01,559
I want to see if it's good enough to be accepted. Two,

783
00:44:01,599 --> 00:44:04,039
if it is accepted, I want to get a reaction

784
00:44:04,199 --> 00:44:07,199
from the audience that is actually willing to view it.

785
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:10,320
And I want to know firsthand how they feel. And

786
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:12,880
if all of those go well, then yeah, I'll try

787
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:15,840
to get it on possibly to Be or something like that,

788
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:19,599
just to do it. And if it all goes south,

789
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:23,159
then it's gonna go up free for YouTube and everybody

790
00:44:23,199 --> 00:44:26,679
can do it. But you know, to speak on more

791
00:44:26,679 --> 00:44:28,679
of that, I'm pulling inspiration from everywhere. And I just

792
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:31,480
recently went back and I listened to that video, that

793
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:35,920
two part interview you did with her, and there was

794
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:38,079
a lot in there that I still today am like,

795
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:42,239
I still question. I'm like, I wonder the validity of it,

796
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:45,199
the truth behind it, and if it's possible. And that

797
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:47,719
was one of the things, is that, like the chatter

798
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:50,760
that she claims of them having a language, so to speak,

799
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:53,119
is just I wanted to know if I go out

800
00:44:53,159 --> 00:44:54,519
and the woods and use it, I wonder if it

801
00:44:54,519 --> 00:44:56,920
would work or if it's all just hogwash.

802
00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:59,000
Speaker 1: I don't know, you know, I mean, that's a great question.

803
00:44:59,079 --> 00:45:03,119
Speaker 3: It makes me think, stay tuned for more. But the

804
00:45:03,119 --> 00:45:05,480
big floper for it, We'll be right back.

805
00:45:07,199 --> 00:45:09,519
Speaker 1: All the times that I've been in the woods on

806
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:13,960
expedition and I brought my blowtooth speaker, It's happened more

807
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:16,679
than a couple of times. Brought my bluetooth speaker and

808
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:21,199
I played the fucking Sierra sounds, you know call blasts

809
00:45:21,199 --> 00:45:25,119
the Sierra sounds. I don't know what the hell they're saying, Yeah,

810
00:45:25,199 --> 00:45:28,480
I could be inviting them in for dinner. I mean,

811
00:45:28,679 --> 00:45:31,039
I don't. I don't know what the fuck they're talking about,

812
00:45:31,119 --> 00:45:35,239
you know, but I don't know. But my whole thing

813
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:38,440
with and I just Janis Carter is who you're talking about.

814
00:45:39,119 --> 00:45:45,239
We all know that. I will tell you that. As

815
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:50,159
far as Janie is concerned, I do think there's a

816
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:54,719
snippet of truth to her story. Like everyone else, I

817
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:58,039
think you don't just you don't just crap this stuff

818
00:45:58,039 --> 00:46:02,960
out at Something led to it, something made you experience something,

819
00:46:03,039 --> 00:46:07,159
You experienced something, and then maybe you just started embellishing.

820
00:46:08,039 --> 00:46:11,079
I think that's what happened with Janis. And I've been

821
00:46:11,079 --> 00:46:13,519
on the record saying that I think there's a snippet

822
00:46:13,559 --> 00:46:15,480
of truth of what's happened to her. But I think

823
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:19,960
that she has taken that and ran with it. I

824
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:24,159
think her grandfather did have some experiences with the Bigfoot.

825
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:27,559
Maybe she even saw the Bigfoot. Was it named Fox?

826
00:46:28,119 --> 00:46:28,639
Speaker 3: I don't know.

827
00:46:29,519 --> 00:46:31,440
Speaker 1: Did it do all of the things that I have

828
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:34,079
a wife named Sheba, I don't know. Did I have

829
00:46:34,079 --> 00:46:38,119
a kid named Blackie? I don't know. Did Blackie rape

830
00:46:38,159 --> 00:46:42,480
this thirteen year old girl that was put into an

831
00:46:42,519 --> 00:46:47,440
insane asylum here in Chattanooga where I live. I don't know,

832
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:51,480
because you can't find record of it anywhere. But if

833
00:46:51,519 --> 00:46:53,559
you can't find record of it, is it because it

834
00:46:53,599 --> 00:46:56,360
didn't happen or was it covered up? That's what they

835
00:46:56,400 --> 00:47:01,199
can always say. But I will tell you, Janice Carter,

836
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:03,039
I believe there's a snippet of truth. And I will

837
00:47:03,039 --> 00:47:05,800
tell you that the one time that I hung out

838
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:08,960
with her in person, she came camping with me and

839
00:47:09,039 --> 00:47:13,760
my buddy Walls and a few other people, and I

840
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:16,320
got her off to the side we were alone, and

841
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:18,360
I told her, you know how much I enjoyed her

842
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:23,239
book and everything like that. And I asked her, I said, now,

843
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:26,760
what do you say to the people that question you?

844
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:31,039
And she stopped me, Jake, She stopped me mid sentenced

845
00:47:31,039 --> 00:47:35,800
and said, you have a problem with this, right, And

846
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:39,400
she told me an element that I was having at

847
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:42,760
the time. It wasn't a knee, it wasn't a shoulder,

848
00:47:44,559 --> 00:47:47,000
a lamp or anything like that that you could visually see.

849
00:47:47,039 --> 00:47:50,239
It was something internally that was going on with me

850
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:55,400
at the time. And she was right, Yeah, how do

851
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:56,239
you explain that?

852
00:47:58,079 --> 00:48:02,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's crazy? I've always felt similar to you, that

853
00:48:02,559 --> 00:48:06,480
there's something there. You know, I've listened to it several times.

854
00:48:06,519 --> 00:48:08,320
I just listened to it not that long ago. Again,

855
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:10,880
that's probably my fourth or fifth time listening to part

856
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:14,559
one and then two. There's something there, like, she definitely

857
00:48:14,599 --> 00:48:17,119
experienced something. But like you said, did the thing wear

858
00:48:17,159 --> 00:48:21,320
overalls and an ex wrestler's T shirt? I don't know, maybe,

859
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:26,440
but I doubt it. However, she experienced something, you know,

860
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:28,000
one hundred per century.

861
00:48:28,599 --> 00:48:34,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, she said, he wore that six x L T shirt.

862
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:37,320
Couldn't get him to put the pants or the overalls

863
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:39,360
on because he wouldn't cover as junk. I don't know.

864
00:48:39,559 --> 00:48:43,320
I don't know why. But he wore that shirt till

865
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:48,679
it was just a rag hanging around his collar, you know. Yeah,

866
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:51,440
And how cool would that be? How amazing would that

867
00:48:51,519 --> 00:48:54,000
be for that to have been your life growing up?

868
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:58,360
Speaker 4: It's crazy, it's and I don't mean to laugh, but

869
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:04,480
it's even the yeah, all right, but it's it's the photos, right,

870
00:49:05,039 --> 00:49:08,960
those photos from the blond haired one standing by the car.

871
00:49:09,119 --> 00:49:11,159
I don't know what it is. That's not what I picture.

872
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:17,559
Speaker 1: The one that drives the truck. Yeah, the one that

873
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:20,920
that that dreads the tear and bloom it.

874
00:49:21,519 --> 00:49:21,960
Speaker 4: That's it.

875
00:49:22,559 --> 00:49:25,960
Speaker 1: That's the ship that ruins everything that she has said.

876
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:30,639
Speaker 4: You know, hey, I see what's funny is I saw

877
00:49:30,679 --> 00:49:33,440
her speak. She was at a conference here, I think

878
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:37,199
that was twenty nineteen, and uh we cut we were

879
00:49:37,199 --> 00:49:38,880
like in and out, me and my friends, and I

880
00:49:39,039 --> 00:49:41,639
remember catching like just snippets of it, you know, bouncing

881
00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:45,039
back between that and a vendors table. So I never

882
00:49:45,159 --> 00:49:49,000
heard her entire story, Yeah, until you did your interview,

883
00:49:49,119 --> 00:49:51,599
and then it kind of brought me all back. But uh,

884
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:53,719
but you're right. When I saw those photos, I kind

885
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:56,599
of I'm like, I don't know about this one. You know.

886
00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:03,599
Speaker 1: That was doctor Igor Burt. Yeah, that that claimed all

887
00:50:03,639 --> 00:50:05,679
of that, and and Janice is a good friend of his.

888
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:08,960
She stood beside him, and she like, I guess verified

889
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:13,400
it and all that stuff, which did nothing for her reputation,

890
00:50:14,559 --> 00:50:19,880
you know, let's be honest. Yeah, but he also claimed

891
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:24,679
to have all the bigfoot, that same bigfoot and put

892
00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:27,559
him on the phone during a conference.

893
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:31,440
Speaker 4: I am a I'm gonna be one hundred percent honest.

894
00:50:31,599 --> 00:50:34,199
I would legit. I was about to say, if they

895
00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:36,760
do exist, I would love to take a call from

896
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:37,400
one one day.

897
00:50:38,079 --> 00:50:42,400
Speaker 1: Oh my god, well he did.

898
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:46,159
Speaker 4: That's too funny, that's too much.

899
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:49,199
Speaker 1: Wow, man, that's good stuff.

900
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:51,239
Speaker 4: That would be your best interview you've ever did.

901
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:54,519
Speaker 1: I think so too, man. It definitely has the most

902
00:50:54,639 --> 00:51:00,960
views of any Anyway, we got some questions we need

903
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:01,440
to get to.

904
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:03,960
Speaker 6: Are.

905
00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:09,119
Speaker 1: First off, Troy two fingered. Troy has been a member

906
00:51:09,159 --> 00:51:14,079
for twenty months. Thank you so much, buddy, My good buddy, Allen.

907
00:51:14,159 --> 00:51:16,400
I was talking to you about Alan from Cadillite, Michigan

908
00:51:16,559 --> 00:51:20,639
earlier before we came on. Because you're from Michigan. What

909
00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:22,119
part of Michigan are you in.

910
00:51:23,639 --> 00:51:27,239
Speaker 4: I'm near Detroit. I'm in Wayne County, so there's no

911
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:28,320
woods really around me.

912
00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:33,360
Speaker 1: Okay. Also from Allen, do you feel your movie will

913
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:40,679
help mine move the ball, move the ball down the court?

914
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:46,679
Or is it more entertainment? Got here last covered already?

915
00:51:46,679 --> 00:51:47,360
I apologized.

916
00:51:48,559 --> 00:51:53,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, absolutely, it's definitely entertainment. It is a like

917
00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:56,719
I said, it's it's a written out script. It's a

918
00:51:56,760 --> 00:51:59,960
fictional story. There are gonna be snippets that I take

919
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:03,719
from different encounters, things that I've read, but I'm not

920
00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:06,159
looking to prove anything with this, and it is not

921
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:09,360
in any way one of those type of documentaries. This

922
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:10,880
is a legit film, so.

923
00:52:12,159 --> 00:52:15,559
Speaker 1: Okay, and Troy, this is more of a comment. I

924
00:52:15,599 --> 00:52:17,880
hope you see a dog man into the month in

925
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:20,480
the LBO, Wayne, because we will be there at the

926
00:52:20,559 --> 00:52:23,760
end of the month at the LBL. LBL is known

927
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:28,119
for a dog man siding, So maybe just shut me

928
00:52:28,159 --> 00:52:29,639
the hell up and I'll see a dog man.

929
00:52:30,239 --> 00:52:30,920
Speaker 4: That'd be sick.

930
00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:36,119
Speaker 1: That'd be great. Also from Allen from Michigan, there's no

931
00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:39,920
history or evolution for a dog man. I think that

932
00:52:40,039 --> 00:52:43,159
is why it's hard to get on board with as

933
00:52:43,199 --> 00:52:47,280
a flesh and blood creature. I would agree with that. Yeah,

934
00:52:48,679 --> 00:52:54,079
it's not really a question, but thank you buddy. All Right, Troy,

935
00:52:55,679 --> 00:52:59,119
if big but if Bigfoot is a primate, couldn't dog

936
00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:03,559
man be misidentified bad boon, which is a prime Absolutely.

937
00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:07,480
Speaker 4: I think you and I both agreed on that earlier.

938
00:53:07,599 --> 00:53:11,280
It's it's much more likely for me to believe misidentification

939
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:14,679
on a whether it's Bigfoot or if it's another animal

940
00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:17,719
that actually exists. You know, I think you and Brian

941
00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:19,639
and Brian's done it the most. But you guys have

942
00:53:19,679 --> 00:53:22,960
thrown off the idea of like kangaroos. I love that idea.

943
00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:26,920
I don't think I don't think there's millions of kangaroos

944
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:30,960
romping around the forest, but I do love that idea. Like,

945
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:33,440
as soon as he said that on one of the episodes,

946
00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:36,920
I envisioned that like fitting one hundred percent to the teeth.

947
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:41,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I agree with you, and that the whole

948
00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:45,519
kangaroo thing is very, very fun and interesting to think about,

949
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:51,719
t Roy. There are stories about the two first responding

950
00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:56,280
officers stopping at the local store after they left the scene.

951
00:53:56,519 --> 00:53:59,840
The lady in the store had waited on them for years.

952
00:54:00,639 --> 00:54:04,440
She said they were shaky. And I think he's talking

953
00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:09,880
about the whole dog Man massacre thing. Okay, yeah there.

954
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:12,920
I mean there's there's all kinds of people that will

955
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:18,960
swear that this thing happened there again there, Yeah, yeah, dude,

956
00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:23,320
there's no official I'll put you in touch with one

957
00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:27,719
of our speakers at the lbl IS, Elijah Henderson. He

958
00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:31,760
and his late father, they used to do this cryptid

959
00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:35,440
thing on YouTube and he still does Crypto Studies Institute.

960
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:39,719
That's what it is. But they the person that was

961
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:44,000
supposedly there reached out to them and they had him

962
00:54:44,079 --> 00:54:46,840
on for an interview, and he gave his whole story.

963
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:49,960
I'll put you in touch with Elijah and see if

964
00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:51,719
maybe he can get you the whole story.

965
00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:54,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll do that, and you.

966
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:57,000
Speaker 1: Being a filmmaker, that that would be useful for you,

967
00:54:57,039 --> 00:55:04,320
I think. All right, Ristol, Jake, are you familiar with

968
00:55:04,599 --> 00:55:07,440
Joe Barger's Michigan dog Man account?

969
00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:12,519
Speaker 4: Not specifically, not by the name anyway, So I may

970
00:55:12,519 --> 00:55:16,880
have heard it, I throw one out. If he's a

971
00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:19,719
truck driver that supposedly had a run in with one

972
00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:22,320
of these things, then yes I have. And if Joe

973
00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:24,559
is not a truck driver, then no, I don't think

974
00:55:24,559 --> 00:55:25,760
I have, but I may have.

975
00:55:28,559 --> 00:55:31,039
Speaker 1: That name doesn't sound familiar m.

976
00:55:32,519 --> 00:55:35,000
Speaker 4: Not to me either. No, So nothing that I can

977
00:55:35,039 --> 00:55:36,840
confidently say yes on, but I could have.

978
00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:42,639
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, And lastly, I want to say hey

979
00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:47,639
to the very beautiful and lovely miss Amber Taylor. Thank

980
00:55:47,679 --> 00:55:55,519
you for tuning in them. Ah right, that is all

981
00:55:55,559 --> 00:55:59,719
of the questions. Not Jake, tell everybody where they can

982
00:55:59,719 --> 00:56:03,079
find you, what you're working on, anything that you want

983
00:56:03,119 --> 00:56:04,039
to promote.

984
00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:08,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely appreciate it. We are, I should say I

985
00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:12,119
am not we Jesse's kind of against it, but I

986
00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:15,400
have taken a bit of a hiatus from anything new

987
00:56:16,039 --> 00:56:19,960
as far as sixteen twenty one Studios is concerned. I

988
00:56:20,039 --> 00:56:21,920
got a lot of stuff in the pipeline that I've

989
00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:26,719
been waiting to release. We do have a couple paranormal

990
00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:30,880
esque videos that'll be dropped by the end of the year,

991
00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:35,199
so watch for those if if you'd like, that'd be great.

992
00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:38,159
Anybody that's listening to this right now that has had

993
00:56:38,199 --> 00:56:42,079
a dog Man encounter, even a bigfootencounter, if you want

994
00:56:42,079 --> 00:56:44,119
to share it with me, but I'm specifically looking for

995
00:56:44,239 --> 00:56:47,199
dog Man just within mind of my project I'm working on,

996
00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:53,360
please email me. I take all emails. I understand Wayne

997
00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:56,159
and I have joked a couple times about a certain somebody. However,

998
00:56:56,719 --> 00:57:00,920
I do take all accounts seriously. If you say you

999
00:57:01,599 --> 00:57:05,400
have had something experienced some sort of experience, I am

1000
00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:07,079
not the person to look at you and say, hey,

1001
00:57:07,079 --> 00:57:10,119
that's not true. So if you would like to share

1002
00:57:10,119 --> 00:57:13,280
your experience with me, please do. You can email one

1003
00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:17,880
six two to one Productions at gmail dot com sixteen

1004
00:57:17,960 --> 00:57:21,679
twenty one Productions at gmail dot com. So Bristol, I

1005
00:57:21,719 --> 00:57:23,920
see that was him the truck driver, So yes, I

1006
00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:27,199
have read that story. It's a pretty wild one. Uh Wayne,

1007
00:57:27,199 --> 00:57:31,360
If you haven't, you know, I don't go. I won't

1008
00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:33,559
go into full details. But it was a truck driver

1009
00:57:33,639 --> 00:57:35,679
that claimed to have run in with a dog man.

1010
00:57:36,039 --> 00:57:39,199
I don't remember exactly if he struck it with his

1011
00:57:39,519 --> 00:57:42,119
semi while he was driving in northern Michigan. He may have,

1012
00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:44,519
and I if that is true, then I think he

1013
00:57:44,639 --> 00:57:48,360
stopped and kind of backed up and the thing attacked

1014
00:57:48,599 --> 00:57:52,000
like his his window, either broke his window out or

1015
00:57:52,159 --> 00:57:54,760
like attacked him of like trying to get retribution for

1016
00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:58,280
hitting him or almost hitting him. But uh but regardless, Wristol,

1017
00:57:58,280 --> 00:57:59,719
you may know more than I do, so you can

1018
00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:03,280
fill man. But that's all I got. Sixteen twenty one

1019
00:58:03,320 --> 00:58:05,960
productions at gmail dot com. If you've had a dog

1020
00:58:06,079 --> 00:58:09,440
Man account or please share it with me. And that's it.

1021
00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:13,760
Speaker 1: Thank you all right, awesome, awesome, Thank you so much,

1022
00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:17,960
buddy for coming on. And I'll let you know personally

1023
00:58:18,280 --> 00:58:21,480
that I have not given up on the project that

1024
00:58:21,920 --> 00:58:25,960
you and I and Brian have talked about. It's it's

1025
00:58:26,119 --> 00:58:30,519
gonna happen. It's just a matter of lining everything up

1026
00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:33,599
and I look forward to working with you in the

1027
00:58:33,639 --> 00:58:37,800
future buddy. Absolutely, thank you all right, man, thank you

1028
00:58:37,840 --> 00:58:40,880
so much for taking the time to come and hang

1029
00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:43,719
out with us tonight. It was awesome. You are welcome

1030
00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:46,480
back anytime and we will stay in touch.

1031
00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:47,440
Speaker 4: All right.

1032
00:58:47,480 --> 00:58:53,719
Speaker 1: Thank you, enjoy your evening, Bud everyone, Bye, Hey, everybody,

1033
00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:56,360
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1034
00:58:56,400 --> 00:59:00,760
The Bigfoot Report. We appreciate everything that you guys do.

1035
00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:04,800
All of the continued support means the world to us.

1036
00:59:05,239 --> 00:59:08,159
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1037
00:59:08,280 --> 00:59:12,199
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1038
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1039
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1040
00:59:19,159 --> 00:59:22,719
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1041
00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:27,360
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1042
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1043
00:59:31,360 --> 00:59:35,320
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1044
00:59:35,800 --> 00:59:40,159
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1045
00:59:40,360 --> 00:59:43,199
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1046
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1047
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1050
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1051
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1052
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Speaker 5: Through the woods. The pine trees sway, shadows long at

1053
01:00:14,559 --> 01:00:23,000
end of day. Bigfoots call on the whispering breathe Secrets

1054
01:00:23,119 --> 01:00:33,840
kept by ancient trees. Dog man house bring echoes in

1055
01:00:33,880 --> 01:00:42,119
the silent too. Tracks we five, but answers none. A

1056
01:00:42,239 --> 01:00:56,280
hunt for truth that's just begun. We're searching past the

1057
01:00:56,320 --> 01:01:05,280
fire light, Creatures hidden out of sight in the forest heart,

1058
01:01:05,360 --> 01:01:18,239
where shadows lay seeking seecrets in the twilight. Through the fall,

1059
01:01:19,039 --> 01:01:28,880
a shaped did gly skin walker eyes wide, legends of Oh,

1060
01:01:28,920 --> 01:01:34,159
we chase to night in the dark, our lanterns bright

1061
01:01:37,280 --> 01:01:44,639
by the creek, Queer water spill whispers wry, the windsow chill,

1062
01:01:45,960 --> 01:01:48,760
forest deep man tails.

1063
01:01:48,320 --> 01:02:03,320
Speaker 6: On toe in this land. The myths of O.

1064
01:02:04,119 --> 01:02:10,840
Speaker 5: We're searching past the fire light full creatures hidden out

1065
01:02:10,840 --> 01:02:18,440
of sight in the forest heart, where shadows lay seeking

1066
01:02:18,559 --> 01:02:36,000
seecrets in the twilight break