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<v Speaker 1>This is Later with Lee Matthews The Lee Matthews Podcast

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<v Speaker 1>More what You Hear weekday afternoons on the Drive.

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<v Speaker 2>Mark Gravada is a retired Navy Seal best selling author

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<v Speaker 2>Transformative Thought Leap. Let me stop right there, Mark, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know that you can ever be a retired seal,

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<v Speaker 2>can you? You don't retire?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, that's you got a point there.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not active duty though, running around understood on but

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<v Speaker 4>I certainly, you know, do my part still.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but you still are our sharpest attack I imagine

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<v Speaker 2>because the discipline that the Navy Seals gives you up

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<v Speaker 2>stays with you always, doesn't it.

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<v Speaker 3>This is true, Yeah, it does.

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<v Speaker 4>And you know, in fact, that's one of the reasons

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<v Speaker 4>I wrote that book on comics. I want to help

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<v Speaker 4>people really understand how to really tap into that same

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<v Speaker 4>level of motivation, the same level of potential, and to

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<v Speaker 4>really bring out their best you know, to live their

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<v Speaker 4>best life and to you know, bring some power into

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<v Speaker 4>the world.

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<v Speaker 3>But they've got to they've got to trained for it.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, people haven't been taught that, you know, really

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<v Speaker 4>to be uncommon to tap into that best potential.

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<v Speaker 3>It doesn't happen just automatically.

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<v Speaker 4>In fact, our whole culture is kind of set up

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<v Speaker 4>to keep people in a really limited state, really contracted,

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<v Speaker 4>and so you got to take responsibility of your own development,

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<v Speaker 4>and that has to be done multi dimensionally, physically, mentally, emotionally, intuitionally,

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<v Speaker 4>and spiritually.

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<v Speaker 3>Those are the five sections of the.

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<v Speaker 2>Book, Mark Devine. The book is uncommon, simple principles for

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<v Speaker 2>an extraordinary life. I always try to start out the

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<v Speaker 2>day with at least one accomplishment mark and it started

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<v Speaker 2>this morning. I woke up, I was feeling kind of

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<v Speaker 2>overwhelmed with everything I got to do this week, everything

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<v Speaker 2>that's happened in the past couple of days, all of

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<v Speaker 2>the news that I have to cover, and I said,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what, I'm going to put on the headphones

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm going to go for a run, and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to run as far as I as far as

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<v Speaker 2>I feel, and I'm going to forget about the world

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<v Speaker 2>and just concentrate on the steps in front of me.

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<v Speaker 2>And for me, that is wonderfully therapeutic, to just forget

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<v Speaker 2>about the world for a while and focus on one thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 4>And then that's actually a great example of an integrated practice.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, you're you're clearing your mind, You're you're focusing

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<v Speaker 4>on your breathing. You know, you're concentrating on that one

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<v Speaker 4>act and that act is a physical, mental, even an

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<v Speaker 4>emotionally developmental act.

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<v Speaker 3>As you come out of that and you're like, wow,

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<v Speaker 3>you feel tremendous.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, that's what I call winning in your mind

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<v Speaker 4>before you step put in the battlefield.

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<v Speaker 3>D So good for you, Well, thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>And is that part of the Monk warrior philosophy you

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<v Speaker 2>talk about? Can you get into that?

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely? Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>My zen master told me one day, one lifetime, every

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<v Speaker 4>day is an opportunity to really you know, be uncommon, right,

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<v Speaker 4>but you've got to put in the work.

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<v Speaker 3>You know you can.

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<v Speaker 4>If you had gotten up and said, well maybe i'll

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<v Speaker 4>do that run tomorrow or later, you never would have

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<v Speaker 4>gotten to it. Yeah, So you know your day starts

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<v Speaker 4>right with the Warrior's code is your first thoughts and

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<v Speaker 4>first words. You take control of those and you make

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<v Speaker 4>sure that they're curated to be positive, to be focused

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<v Speaker 4>on the right things, and that your emotional state, your

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<v Speaker 4>mood is is positive and optimistic, so you're not dragon,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, negativity and regret into your day. So winning

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<v Speaker 4>in your mind. First thing in the morning is a

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<v Speaker 4>key you know, warrior monk attitude. And then in the

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<v Speaker 4>evening right to you think of it like a container.

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<v Speaker 4>The morning ritual is really to set you up to win.

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<v Speaker 4>And then you in the evening you take time again

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<v Speaker 4>to breathe, to reflect, and to learn from your day

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<v Speaker 4>and to see what went well, what didn't well, just

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<v Speaker 4>like a Navy sealed debrief and what did I learn?

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<v Speaker 4>And you know, when you look at this way, you

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<v Speaker 4>know all you have is today. Yesterday is a fantasy.

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<v Speaker 4>You used to say in the seals, the only easy

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<v Speaker 4>day was yesterday, because it's all it's a fantasy, right,

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<v Speaker 4>and tomorrow, tomorrow hasn't come yet, So just focus today.

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<v Speaker 3>What are you gonna do about today? And what are

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<v Speaker 3>you going to do for yourself? Right? So many people

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<v Speaker 3>are are focused.

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<v Speaker 4>On what's going on in the world, and there's a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of negativity going on, but you know, focus on

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<v Speaker 4>yourself first.

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<v Speaker 3>It seems selfish, but it's actually the most selfless.

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<v Speaker 4>Thing to do, is to get your mind right, to

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<v Speaker 4>get your emotions right, and to be able to tap

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<v Speaker 4>that vast potential to be uncommon and then bring that

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<v Speaker 4>forth into the world.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, uncommon, simple principles for an Extraordinary life and former

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<v Speaker 2>ex nav former navycal entrepreneur, father and New York Times

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<v Speaker 2>the bestselling author Mark Devine is with us. But at

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<v Speaker 2>the same time, Mark, do you also need to know

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<v Speaker 2>when to back off, when to relax, when do okay today,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to take it easy.

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<v Speaker 3>Well.

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<v Speaker 4>Absolutely, And I think that's another key part that people

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<v Speaker 4>miss is that we have so biased toward action here

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<v Speaker 4>in the West, and action needs to be coupled with inaction.

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<v Speaker 4>It action doesn't mean necessarily you don't do anything, but

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<v Speaker 4>you get your ego out of the way and you

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<v Speaker 4>learn to know when to recover, when to like power down.

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<v Speaker 4>For instance, after every really difficult thing you do, whether

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<v Speaker 4>it's a podcast or you know, a meeting or a workout,

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<v Speaker 4>you should take at least five minutes maybe ten minutes

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<v Speaker 4>to recover, let your mind kind of digest. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>science is kind of finally catching up, so you need

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<v Speaker 4>you need time to really assimilate and to learn as

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<v Speaker 4>you go through your day, not you know, all at

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<v Speaker 4>night when you sleep and what happens. That's kind of

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<v Speaker 4>that Yin and Yong hard, the soft effort and the

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<v Speaker 4>surrender and that's kind of lacking, you know. The Eastern

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<v Speaker 4>traditions and I learned this through Zen and the martial arts.

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<v Speaker 4>They have this really kind of nice balance between the

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<v Speaker 4>hard and the soft action and inaction. And I think,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, if we can find that, people are gonna

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<v Speaker 4>have a lot more health, they're gonna have a lot

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<v Speaker 4>more you know, just balance in their lives.

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<v Speaker 2>New York Times. The best selling author Mark Divine uncommon

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<v Speaker 2>Simple principles for an extraordinary life. And hopefully nobody's gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be shooting at you while you're doing all this, like

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<v Speaker 2>what you went through, and then maybe sales.

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<v Speaker 4>Well hopefully not, but you know what, if someone does,

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<v Speaker 4>you need to be ready for that too.

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<v Speaker 3>We call that being sheep sheep dog strong, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>So opening up your intuitive centers as a key part

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<v Speaker 4>of the book.

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<v Speaker 3>I have a whole section on intuition.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, to be able to really sense and understand

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<v Speaker 4>the signals from your environment, both internally and externally, is

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<v Speaker 4>really key. I mean that saved my life multiple times

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<v Speaker 4>in the seals, in my teammates as well. Yeah, So,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean it's it's crazy what's going on in the world,

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<v Speaker 4>and you know, people need to be aware and awake,

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<v Speaker 4>and they need to take responsibility for their own for

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<v Speaker 4>their own minds.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's really why I wrote the book. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>people to take control of.

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<v Speaker 4>Their lives to really move toward you know, everyone to

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<v Speaker 4>be part of the solution to move toward a more

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<v Speaker 4>positive world, not just wait for someone, you know, someone

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<v Speaker 4>individual character, whether it be mister Trumper or mister Biden,

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<v Speaker 4>even to fix it for us, because you know.

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<v Speaker 3>They're not right. Everyone's world is their world.

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<v Speaker 4>It's our responsibility to make our world, you know, the

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<v Speaker 4>more beautiful world that we know it's possible.

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<v Speaker 2>Mark divine, uncommon, simple principles for an extraordinary life. And

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<v Speaker 2>you you mentioned the monk warrior attitude. I guess the

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<v Speaker 2>way you're describing it, it is a little like being

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<v Speaker 2>a monk. You're not you're not sequestering yourself per se,

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<v Speaker 2>but the discipline of mourning and then midday and then

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<v Speaker 2>after you're noon. It reminds me of morning prayer, mid

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<v Speaker 2>day work in the fields, and then afternoon vespers. So

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<v Speaker 2>it's a little like that, but unto yourself and customed

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<v Speaker 2>to what your lifestyle is.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right, Yeah, that's right.

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<v Speaker 4>And you know it starts with physical, the five section

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<v Speaker 4>of the book physical, mentally, emotional, intuitional, and spiritual, and

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<v Speaker 4>each one is a training because these are all aspects

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<v Speaker 4>of a whole person, but we've kind of like separated

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<v Speaker 4>and we you know, we segment ourselves in these little

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<v Speaker 4>parts and then you don't experience wholeness. You experience life

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<v Speaker 4>is like this fragmented, chaotic, you know, rushed thing.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's not necessary.

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<v Speaker 4>So when we train ourselves to kind of come back

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<v Speaker 4>into that that center and that wholeness, and that's kind

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<v Speaker 4>of that warrior monk. It doesn't mean you're right. You

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<v Speaker 4>don't sequester yourself. In fact, you bring yourself into the

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<v Speaker 4>world more fully. You're more present, you're more aware, you're

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<v Speaker 4>more compassionate, and you're more positive. And those are qualities

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<v Speaker 4>that you know that we all strive for, but they're

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<v Speaker 4>found within, you know. So a big part of this

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<v Speaker 4>book is really to help you to recognize that they

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<v Speaker 4>can slow down in order to speed up in life.

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<v Speaker 4>Right leg in the Seals, we said slowest smooth, smooth

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<v Speaker 4>as fast.

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<v Speaker 3>That slowest smooth.

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<v Speaker 4>Pardon means you go within and you win in your

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<v Speaker 4>mind before you go into the battle.

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<v Speaker 3>And then when you hit the battle man, you are

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<v Speaker 3>firing on all cylinders.

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<v Speaker 2>Mark divine, uncommon, simple principles for an extraordinary life. Thank

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<v Speaker 2>you for joining us today and for your service to

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<v Speaker 2>our country.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you, Lee, I appreciate you very munchy off.

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