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Speaker 2: Mark Gravada is a retired Navy Seal best selling author
Speaker 2: Transformative Thought Leap. Let me stop right there, Mark, I
Speaker 2: don't know that you can ever be a retired seal,
Speaker 2: can you? You don't retire?
Speaker 3: Well, that's you got a point there.
Speaker 4: I'm not active duty though, running around understood on but
Speaker 4: I certainly, you know, do my part still.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you still are our sharpest attack I imagine
Speaker 2: because the discipline that the Navy Seals gives you up
Speaker 2: stays with you always, doesn't it.
Speaker 3: This is true, Yeah, it does.
Speaker 4: And you know, in fact, that's one of the reasons
Speaker 4: I wrote that book on comics. I want to help
Speaker 4: people really understand how to really tap into that same
Speaker 4: level of motivation, the same level of potential, and to
Speaker 4: really bring out their best you know, to live their
Speaker 4: best life and to you know, bring some power into
Speaker 4: the world.
Speaker 3: But they've got to they've got to trained for it.
Speaker 4: You know, people haven't been taught that, you know, really
Speaker 4: to be uncommon to tap into that best potential.
Speaker 3: It doesn't happen just automatically.
Speaker 4: In fact, our whole culture is kind of set up
Speaker 4: to keep people in a really limited state, really contracted,
Speaker 4: and so you got to take responsibility of your own development,
Speaker 4: and that has to be done multi dimensionally, physically, mentally, emotionally, intuitionally,
Speaker 4: and spiritually.
Speaker 3: Those are the five sections of the.
Speaker 2: Book, Mark Devine. The book is uncommon, simple principles for
Speaker 2: an extraordinary life. I always try to start out the
Speaker 2: day with at least one accomplishment mark and it started
Speaker 2: this morning. I woke up, I was feeling kind of
Speaker 2: overwhelmed with everything I got to do this week, everything
Speaker 2: that's happened in the past couple of days, all of
Speaker 2: the news that I have to cover, and I said,
Speaker 2: you know what, I'm going to put on the headphones
Speaker 2: and I'm going to go for a run, and I'm
Speaker 2: going to run as far as I as far as
Speaker 2: I feel, and I'm going to forget about the world
Speaker 2: and just concentrate on the steps in front of me.
Speaker 2: And for me, that is wonderfully therapeutic, to just forget
Speaker 2: about the world for a while and focus on one thing.
Speaker 3: Absolutely.
Speaker 4: And then that's actually a great example of an integrated practice.
Speaker 4: I mean, you're you're clearing your mind, You're you're focusing
Speaker 4: on your breathing. You know, you're concentrating on that one
Speaker 4: act and that act is a physical, mental, even an
Speaker 4: emotionally developmental act.
Speaker 3: As you come out of that and you're like, wow,
Speaker 3: you feel tremendous.
Speaker 4: You know, that's what I call winning in your mind
Speaker 4: before you step put in the battlefield.
Speaker 3: D So good for you, Well, thank you.
Speaker 2: And is that part of the Monk warrior philosophy you
Speaker 2: talk about? Can you get into that?
Speaker 3: Absolutely? Yeah.
Speaker 4: My zen master told me one day, one lifetime, every
Speaker 4: day is an opportunity to really you know, be uncommon, right,
Speaker 4: but you've got to put in the work.
Speaker 3: You know you can.
Speaker 4: If you had gotten up and said, well maybe i'll
Speaker 4: do that run tomorrow or later, you never would have
Speaker 4: gotten to it. Yeah, So you know your day starts
Speaker 4: right with the Warrior's code is your first thoughts and
Speaker 4: first words. You take control of those and you make
Speaker 4: sure that they're curated to be positive, to be focused
Speaker 4: on the right things, and that your emotional state, your
Speaker 4: mood is is positive and optimistic, so you're not dragon,
Speaker 4: you know, negativity and regret into your day. So winning
Speaker 4: in your mind. First thing in the morning is a
Speaker 4: key you know, warrior monk attitude. And then in the
Speaker 4: evening right to you think of it like a container.
Speaker 4: The morning ritual is really to set you up to win.
Speaker 4: And then you in the evening you take time again
Speaker 4: to breathe, to reflect, and to learn from your day
Speaker 4: and to see what went well, what didn't well, just
Speaker 4: like a Navy sealed debrief and what did I learn?
Speaker 4: And you know, when you look at this way, you
Speaker 4: know all you have is today. Yesterday is a fantasy.
Speaker 4: You used to say in the seals, the only easy
Speaker 4: day was yesterday, because it's all it's a fantasy, right,
Speaker 4: and tomorrow, tomorrow hasn't come yet, So just focus today.
Speaker 3: What are you gonna do about today? And what are
Speaker 3: you going to do for yourself? Right? So many people
Speaker 3: are are focused.
Speaker 4: On what's going on in the world, and there's a
Speaker 4: lot of negativity going on, but you know, focus on
Speaker 4: yourself first.
Speaker 3: It seems selfish, but it's actually the most selfless.
Speaker 4: Thing to do, is to get your mind right, to
Speaker 4: get your emotions right, and to be able to tap
Speaker 4: that vast potential to be uncommon and then bring that
Speaker 4: forth into the world.
Speaker 2: Right, uncommon, simple principles for an Extraordinary life and former
Speaker 2: ex nav former navycal entrepreneur, father and New York Times
Speaker 2: the bestselling author Mark Devine is with us. But at
Speaker 2: the same time, Mark, do you also need to know
Speaker 2: when to back off, when to relax, when do okay today,
Speaker 2: I'm going to take it easy.
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, And I think that's another key part that people
Speaker 4: miss is that we have so biased toward action here
Speaker 4: in the West, and action needs to be coupled with inaction.
Speaker 4: It action doesn't mean necessarily you don't do anything, but
Speaker 4: you get your ego out of the way and you
Speaker 4: learn to know when to recover, when to like power down.
Speaker 4: For instance, after every really difficult thing you do, whether
Speaker 4: it's a podcast or you know, a meeting or a workout,
Speaker 4: you should take at least five minutes maybe ten minutes
Speaker 4: to recover, let your mind kind of digest. You know,
Speaker 4: science is kind of finally catching up, so you need
Speaker 4: you need time to really assimilate and to learn as
Speaker 4: you go through your day, not you know, all at
Speaker 4: night when you sleep and what happens. That's kind of
Speaker 4: that Yin and Yong hard, the soft effort and the
Speaker 4: surrender and that's kind of lacking, you know. The Eastern
Speaker 4: traditions and I learned this through Zen and the martial arts.
Speaker 4: They have this really kind of nice balance between the
Speaker 4: hard and the soft action and inaction. And I think,
Speaker 4: you know, if we can find that, people are gonna
Speaker 4: have a lot more health, they're gonna have a lot
Speaker 4: more you know, just balance in their lives.
Speaker 2: New York Times. The best selling author Mark Divine uncommon
Speaker 2: Simple principles for an extraordinary life. And hopefully nobody's gonna
Speaker 2: be shooting at you while you're doing all this, like
Speaker 2: what you went through, and then maybe sales.
Speaker 4: Well hopefully not, but you know what, if someone does,
Speaker 4: you need to be ready for that too.
Speaker 3: We call that being sheep sheep dog strong, you know.
Speaker 4: So opening up your intuitive centers as a key part
Speaker 4: of the book.
Speaker 3: I have a whole section on intuition.
Speaker 4: You know, to be able to really sense and understand
Speaker 4: the signals from your environment, both internally and externally, is
Speaker 4: really key. I mean that saved my life multiple times
Speaker 4: in the seals, in my teammates as well. Yeah, So,
Speaker 4: I mean it's it's crazy what's going on in the world,
Speaker 4: and you know, people need to be aware and awake,
Speaker 4: and they need to take responsibility for their own for
Speaker 4: their own minds.
Speaker 3: And that's really why I wrote the book. You know,
Speaker 3: people to take control of.
Speaker 4: Their lives to really move toward you know, everyone to
Speaker 4: be part of the solution to move toward a more
Speaker 4: positive world, not just wait for someone, you know, someone
Speaker 4: individual character, whether it be mister Trumper or mister Biden,
Speaker 4: even to fix it for us, because you know.
Speaker 3: They're not right. Everyone's world is their world.
Speaker 4: It's our responsibility to make our world, you know, the
Speaker 4: more beautiful world that we know it's possible.
Speaker 2: Mark divine, uncommon, simple principles for an extraordinary life. And
Speaker 2: you you mentioned the monk warrior attitude. I guess the
Speaker 2: way you're describing it, it is a little like being
Speaker 2: a monk. You're not you're not sequestering yourself per se,
Speaker 2: but the discipline of mourning and then midday and then
Speaker 2: after you're noon. It reminds me of morning prayer, mid
Speaker 2: day work in the fields, and then afternoon vespers. So
Speaker 2: it's a little like that, but unto yourself and customed
Speaker 2: to what your lifestyle is.
Speaker 3: That's right, Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 4: And you know it starts with physical, the five section
Speaker 4: of the book physical, mentally, emotional, intuitional, and spiritual, and
Speaker 4: each one is a training because these are all aspects
Speaker 4: of a whole person, but we've kind of like separated
Speaker 4: and we you know, we segment ourselves in these little
Speaker 4: parts and then you don't experience wholeness. You experience life
Speaker 4: is like this fragmented, chaotic, you know, rushed thing.
Speaker 3: And it's not necessary.
Speaker 4: So when we train ourselves to kind of come back
Speaker 4: into that that center and that wholeness, and that's kind
Speaker 4: of that warrior monk. It doesn't mean you're right. You
Speaker 4: don't sequester yourself. In fact, you bring yourself into the
Speaker 4: world more fully. You're more present, you're more aware, you're
Speaker 4: more compassionate, and you're more positive. And those are qualities
Speaker 4: that you know that we all strive for, but they're
Speaker 4: found within, you know. So a big part of this
Speaker 4: book is really to help you to recognize that they
Speaker 4: can slow down in order to speed up in life.
Speaker 4: Right leg in the Seals, we said slowest smooth, smooth
Speaker 4: as fast.
Speaker 3: That slowest smooth.
Speaker 4: Pardon means you go within and you win in your
Speaker 4: mind before you go into the battle.
Speaker 3: And then when you hit the battle man, you are
Speaker 3: firing on all cylinders.
Speaker 2: Mark divine, uncommon, simple principles for an extraordinary life. Thank
Speaker 2: you for joining us today and for your service to
Speaker 2: our country.
Speaker 3: Thank you, Lee, I appreciate you very munchy off.
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