Speaker 1: Welcome to Squatching Holler.
Speaker 2: In the midst where the trees lean loom. Squatching Hollers
Speaker 2: got a tail. The show whispers, creep like a creature's
Speaker 2: fain out. Every shadows got a secret to grow? Monsters
Speaker 2: rhyme Where the stories are told?
Speaker 3: Squatching Hollow?
Speaker 4: Where the legends are born? Are they here?
Speaker 1: Are they gone?
Speaker 3: Who can say? In the hollow the truth?
Speaker 5: Just wish.
Speaker 2: Your foot prints fade where the creek runs than a
Speaker 2: lantern sways?
Speaker 1: Let the search begin, rustling.
Speaker 2: Leaves, But there's no one there, is it the wind
Speaker 2: or the beast?
Speaker 6: You fear every and goes question, Every.
Speaker 7: Russell's a clue.
Speaker 3: Squatching the Holly's got its eye on you. Monsters.
Speaker 1: The whole stories are torn swats?
Speaker 2: And how where the legends are born?
Speaker 6: Are they? Are they gone? Who can say?
Speaker 8: And now your hosts welcome you to Squash and Hollow,
Speaker 8: Roger Williams and Amanda Styllis. Remember this podcast can be
Speaker 8: downloaded everywhere great podcasts are found. And now the show.
Speaker 3: Hey, Amanda, did you bring your snickers?
Speaker 1: I did?
Speaker 9: Actually, I got water. I got a snack over here,
Speaker 9: because you know this is going to be a good one.
Speaker 3: Tonight well, the way we're going to do this, We've
Speaker 3: never had this many people, many guests on at the
Speaker 3: same time. So I've told the guests, you know, anytime
Speaker 3: they need to go, they can just wave and get out.
Speaker 3: Amanda the same way, and we'll just we'll just go
Speaker 3: until til the show's over. It may not be a
Speaker 3: real long show, but my instinct tells me it could be.
Speaker 10: Kind of thinking the same thing.
Speaker 3: So welcome in everybody. Thank y'all for being here, everybody
Speaker 3: in chat. Actually, I've been thinking about doing something like
Speaker 3: this for a while, but Bama kind of nudged me
Speaker 3: this week and I'm like, let's be a good week
Speaker 3: to do that. And then contacted Yeah, I contacted uh
Speaker 3: Greg hows of course Bama and then flat Rock and
Speaker 3: Mark Green and so you got you got you know,
Speaker 3: the state of Alabama. I'm kind of I'm really close,
Speaker 3: Amanda's not that far, so we're you know, we're not
Speaker 3: that far from each other. And you got Greg in
Speaker 3: the north part of Alabama, you have Obama is south
Speaker 3: of him about iron and a half or so. Then
Speaker 3: you have Mark Green and Flat Rock in the southern end,
Speaker 3: and you know, it kind of opened my eyes meeting
Speaker 3: all these these these guys and hanging out with them,
Speaker 3: uh where they live. And I haven't been the flat
Speaker 3: Rocks yet, but you know this question, we get word
Speaker 3: of the hide. Well, if you can't find a place
Speaker 3: to hide in Alabama, it's it's like that in a
Speaker 3: lot of states. But uh, actually being there and seeing
Speaker 3: it is nutty. It's just the you know, hundreds of
Speaker 3: thousands of acres of state parks or national park forests
Speaker 3: and stuff like that, and you know it, It's been
Speaker 3: a blessing to me to meet these these guys because
Speaker 3: not only is it they're interested in the subject for
Speaker 3: the same reason. You know that, you know, we are Amanda.
Speaker 3: You know, y'all anybody that's new here this all of
Speaker 3: us are way past or are they real? We're you know,
Speaker 3: we're here to share. We're way past that. So with
Speaker 3: with you know, with all of the experiences that these
Speaker 3: guys have had, collection of evidence, capturing, audio, taking reports. Uh,
Speaker 3: this group you're about to see is about as good
Speaker 3: as it gets. I know there are other groups around
Speaker 3: the country. They are great jobs, but it's just there's
Speaker 3: a few of them in different parts of the country.
Speaker 3: But hey, this is our home here and we I'm
Speaker 3: excited to talk to them because a lot of them
Speaker 3: I talked to you know regularly, or you know, we
Speaker 3: see each other sometimes. But anyway, I'll quit running my mouth.
Speaker 3: But I do want to say one thing before we
Speaker 3: get started. Amanda has a story. I won't play the
Speaker 3: goof intro, but we'll let her do this right after this.
Speaker 3: I coached football for ten years and I've we had
Speaker 3: a store. You hire people, you hire them for their strengths,
Speaker 3: and you hire other people to make up for their
Speaker 3: weaknesses and my weaknesses and all that the same way
Speaker 3: with football. If I was to sull a team, a
Speaker 3: legit team, everybody you see here tonight, including Amanda, would
Speaker 3: be on that team. And I have five or six more,
Speaker 3: you know. Uh, I don't want to leave anybody out,
Speaker 3: but that to have a very serious team that would
Speaker 3: could could help each other, compliment each other, the knowledge
Speaker 3: and skills and whether it's uh with tech technology, or
Speaker 3: whether it's with knowledge of the woods, or whether it's
Speaker 3: data collection. Uh, this group here would be would be
Speaker 3: definitely be on my team. So anyway, well let's uh,
Speaker 3: let's so, where where's your story from?
Speaker 10: Oh?
Speaker 9: So it is out of Decatur, Alabama. Let me pull
Speaker 9: it up here. I've got it so we have a
Speaker 9: visual here. But because I'm not getting no younger, you
Speaker 9: pull it up here in my book in front of
Speaker 9: you so I.
Speaker 3: Can read it and carry your eyes with you like
Speaker 3: I do.
Speaker 9: Yeah, it's time for me to go get the eyeballs checked.
Speaker 9: So this is the let me start over. This is
Speaker 9: the Tuscaluska Gazette in Alabama, October eleventh, eighteen eighty three.
Speaker 9: It's not Bigfoot related, but it's definitely in the paranormal wheelhouse.
Speaker 9: You'll see what I mean. Talks about an underground palace.
Speaker 9: The following is from the Moulten Advertiser. Gracious, I'm stuttering.
Speaker 9: On return to Cortland in the afternoon, we found the
Speaker 9: people much excited over this discovery of an underground palace
Speaker 9: on Big Nance, just below the railroad bridge. It has
Speaker 9: been explored for miles and some wonderful discoveries made. It
Speaker 9: appears to be the entrance to a new and better
Speaker 9: world where night never comes and sorrow never enters. The
Speaker 9: bones of giant skeletons of men and women, many times
Speaker 9: larger than the Anglo Saxon Race were discovered, and they
Speaker 9: are said to be in a perfect state of preservation.
Speaker 9: We did not have time to visit the cave, but
Speaker 9: we're reliably informed it has ever, it has every appearance
Speaker 9: of an underground palace, and it is believed to be
Speaker 9: the door to a new kingdom. The most astonishing feature
Speaker 9: about the cave, if indeed it is a cave, is
Speaker 9: the light that one sees on entering, And the further
Speaker 9: you go, the more brilliant the light becomes. The air
Speaker 9: is healthful, dry and invigorating. Images can be seen, and
Speaker 9: voices can be heard all over the palace, which baffles
Speaker 9: the better judgment of our scientific men. We shall go
Speaker 9: down and explore the cave at an early day and
Speaker 9: give our readers a more extended account of it. So
Speaker 9: that's from eighteen eighty three. It would be definitely interesting
Speaker 9: to see if they ever did go and explore that.
Speaker 3: But it's amazing that It's amazing that that article actually
Speaker 3: survives because we all know, you know, the thing's been
Speaker 3: hidden from us, and we could talk about some of that,
Speaker 3: you know, I know, uh, once you get into this subject,
Speaker 3: there's you know, people use the word rabbit holes or
Speaker 3: different avenues you could go down. And I've been watching
Speaker 3: I've been watching documentaries and people have been sending me
Speaker 3: things about the different races of people they're finding. You,
Speaker 3: Like one today was sent to me. I think, uh,
Speaker 3: Judy sent it to me. And you know, we had
Speaker 3: the Denisovans and the Neanderthal and all that, and then
Speaker 3: they have found in aboriginal blood a DNA stream that
Speaker 3: they've never found any kind of bones or anything of it.
Speaker 3: It's confused them. So and you have to be careful too,
Speaker 3: because it's on the internet, so you that you ain't.
Speaker 9: Wrong, and you kind of kind of take some of
Speaker 9: this old stuff with a grain of salt as well,
Speaker 9: because just like some things can be elaborated on today
Speaker 9: or not elaborated exaggerated today, Yeah, it could probably be
Speaker 9: the same thing, but it's still still pretty interesting to
Speaker 9: look into because it's not the only article or story
Speaker 9: you've heard about underground stuff. I know, specifically one of
Speaker 9: the famous one in Mount Shasta in California, but that
Speaker 9: one coming straight out of our neck of the woods
Speaker 9: here in Alabama where we got all these cave systems
Speaker 9: and stuff. I thought it was pretty interesting.
Speaker 3: Yep, and y'all we're about to get started. But this
Speaker 3: little wiggly thing up here, my big studio like that
Speaker 3: was given to me finally crapped out. So I've got
Speaker 3: one ordered for be ready next week. So anyway, here
Speaker 3: we go, y'all got you thinking caps on and this.
Speaker 3: We're not structured, we're not professional. This is like sitting
Speaker 3: around the fire. So let's welcome in gregg House. Then
Speaker 3: move up to the other row. Babma murd All, Mark, Plowboy,
Speaker 3: Green and flat right Wood Burgers. What's up, guys?
Speaker 11: You going glad to be here.
Speaker 3: I appreciate y'all. You know, Bama mentioned something this at
Speaker 3: the beginning of the week, and I'm like, oh my god,
Speaker 3: let's you know, we started this to focus on the
Speaker 3: southeast anyway, and we could do a whole state, and
Speaker 3: you know, we had one more. We had a few
Speaker 3: more we could get on, but I wasn't sure how
Speaker 3: many people we could get on.
Speaker 9: Yeah, we're looking a little full now as it is.
Speaker 11: Yeah, I feel squished.
Speaker 12: So Rober, Yes, sir Robert.
Speaker 5: The thing about that story she was telling when it
Speaker 5: was talking about Courtland, See that's Cortland's does the Combo's
Speaker 5: Farm ten miles and only about forty miles north of
Speaker 5: where I'm sitting.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yep, and of course you got and you got
Speaker 3: a pretty good little water source close by. I would
Speaker 3: say the Tennessee River. I mean, yeah, I mean the
Speaker 3: more things that I see like this, I said that right, Well,
Speaker 3: the Tennessee River's correct, ain't it?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 10: I looked it up on the map, one of them. Yeah,
Speaker 10: just south of the Tennessee River.
Speaker 3: Y'all. I'm I'm I have brain cramp sometimes and like
Speaker 3: question what I just said. You know, the the more
Speaker 3: we dig into this, I know Mark has dug in
Speaker 3: to a lot of that, and I've heard him talking
Speaker 3: on other shows, it's just confusing that you can connect
Speaker 3: the dots, but it's I'm confused in a way. And
Speaker 3: why it would be hidden. I know we have theories,
Speaker 3: but why wouldn't you want people to know their history?
Speaker 3: You know, anybody have any thoughts on that?
Speaker 5: You got to keep ahead, man, that's what that's what
Speaker 5: the government does. I mean, he goes back to what
Speaker 5: they talk about, you know, some of the religious groups
Speaker 5: that keep everything hidden and for some reason, who knows?
Speaker 10: Mm hmm.
Speaker 3: It's so y'all, Uh, what I wanted to start with.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 3: I know Obama's got a story for sure, and some
Speaker 3: things that happened to him on his camp out. Greg
Speaker 3: just this past week or so, UH got in contact
Speaker 3: with a man from Tennessee, I think, and the one
Speaker 3: where him and his wife, you know, they had all
Speaker 3: the rains and all of that, and Uh, Greg talked
Speaker 3: to the guy on the phone, and of course he
Speaker 3: was like, like a lot of people, you have something
Speaker 3: happened in your you need to talk to somebody. And Uh,
Speaker 3: it really messed with his head. Great, you want to
Speaker 3: start us out with with that. That's that account of
Speaker 3: what happened to him. And I don't know how long
Speaker 3: ago it was.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean the guy anybody that hadn't watched it. Uh.
Speaker 5: I went on missed his aunt Sherry's podcast, Southern Appalachians
Speaker 5: aaskalat Seekers. I went on. Cherry asked me to come
Speaker 5: on and uh with her, and she talked about the
Speaker 5: guy's story. The guy. The guy wants to he's really
Speaker 5: not comfortable with with speaking about it, and you know,
Speaker 5: doesn't want to do a show, doesn't doesn't want his
Speaker 5: name out and uh, you know i'd heard a little
Speaker 5: bit about it. Talking with a Sherry and Uh, I
Speaker 5: really you know, learned a lot about it during that
Speaker 5: podcast I did with her a couple of weeks ago,
Speaker 5: and uh, did Cherry call me and asked me? She said, uh,
Speaker 5: he said, I said that the guy had had watched
Speaker 5: the podcast where I was on there with her and
Speaker 5: said that, you know, like to talk with me. And
Speaker 5: I told her, She said, would be okay for me
Speaker 5: to give him your number? I said, yeah, I'd love
Speaker 5: to talk to him. You know, I'm I've got questions
Speaker 5: on what happened, and not that I was. At no
Speaker 5: point in time was I doubt what the man said.
Speaker 5: You know, I even me hearing at second hand, it
Speaker 5: was just my heart was going out to this guy
Speaker 5: because you know, everything that happened to him. I mean,
Speaker 5: it was horrible. They they it was during the hurricane
Speaker 5: and through you know, severe eastern Tennessee and North Carolina.
Speaker 5: There the line and flooded everything that wasched p thousands
Speaker 5: and had all the people that died, and this guy
Speaker 5: got caught in the middle of it, him and his family,
Speaker 5: and I mean they basically a depth to find estate
Speaker 5: to get out of there, and you know, they had
Speaker 5: it got they got like like they were saying they
Speaker 5: were in a bad spot. But when they were escaping
Speaker 5: the there was a like a trail they went up.
Speaker 5: Then they had to go on an a TV on
Speaker 5: a four whether that was the only way to get out.
Speaker 5: His truck washed away. His truck was gone, The house
Speaker 5: was six and to go. They didn't know where his
Speaker 5: daughter was. They was having all these problems with that
Speaker 5: and worried about family member and plus upstream from his
Speaker 5: house it was a down. They thought the dam was
Speaker 5: gonna go. Well, I mean it's already coming around the
Speaker 5: dam or over it. And the fire department came to
Speaker 5: their house beating on the door and said, look y'all
Speaker 5: got maybe fifteen minutes to get out, and everything's gone. So,
Speaker 5: I mean he spur of the moment. They're gone, and
Speaker 5: they couldn't get out because his truck was gone. Well,
Speaker 5: they jump on the ATV and take off and they
Speaker 5: go up and he said there was a tree in
Speaker 5: the road. And the reason the tree was in the road,
Speaker 5: he said, the side of the mountain was sliding. They
Speaker 5: was having like landslides. There was so much rain. And
Speaker 5: he said to a place had slid out of the
Speaker 5: mountain in the road and the tree was crossing well,
Speaker 5: he said they had to abandon the four wheeler. And
Speaker 5: he said they weren't but about one hundred yards to
Speaker 5: where he thought high ground. The highest ground they could
Speaker 5: find was up on the mountain and they would probably
Speaker 5: be safe. But he said he got off the four
Speaker 5: wheeler and said that he was to get through the tree.
Speaker 5: He got either over it or through it or whatever.
Speaker 5: And he turned around. He was pulling some of the
Speaker 5: limbs up. Say his wife was pretty short, but he
Speaker 5: was holding that at where she could get under it.
Speaker 5: And he said that when she got under it, and said,
Speaker 5: there they are standing in all these limbs on the tree,
Speaker 5: and said he grabbed his arm and he's like shook,
Speaker 5: and he said he looked at her and he said,
Speaker 5: look it was. He said it was raining super hard
Speaker 5: and you couldn't hear anything for all the rain hit
Speaker 5: the leaves. He said he looked at her and she
Speaker 5: had this panic look, and she like like nodding. And
Speaker 5: he said, this log road going up to him, and
Speaker 5: he said, coming down the log road toward them is
Speaker 5: too bigfoot a bigger one and a little and he said,
Speaker 5: you know, they were they were like walking straight at him,
Speaker 5: but they were like sicks looking up the heel and
Speaker 5: he said that where this this mountain had slid off,
Speaker 5: it was just went. He said the big one would
Speaker 5: would get a run and would try to go up
Speaker 5: that bank, and said it would slide and come back
Speaker 5: down to the bottom. And the little one was just
Speaker 5: standing in the road and they hadn't saw the pool yet,
Speaker 5: and he said she hit it again and tried to
Speaker 5: go up, and like she she'd actually come, kept coming
Speaker 5: toward them. She hit one spot and couldn't make it,
Speaker 5: slid down, come on toward them more, and hit it
Speaker 5: again and slid back down. Well amongst it doing this,
Speaker 5: the little one like looks up and Locke's eyes with
Speaker 5: the with the guy and his wife, and said it
Speaker 5: was like what freaked out looking at him. And he
Speaker 5: said he thought he saw its mouth move, but he
Speaker 5: said they couldn't hear anything, so he didn't know if
Speaker 5: it said something and made a noise to the to
Speaker 5: the bigger one, He said about that time, the bigger
Speaker 5: one looks at it and then just turns and looks
Speaker 5: at them. He said, its eyes get big and said,
Speaker 5: I just like both of them just freeze and everybody's
Speaker 5: standing there having the stair off and said it lasted,
Speaker 5: you know, four or five second. He said, they whirled
Speaker 5: around and she grabbed that little one by the arm,
Speaker 5: and they took off and went right back up the
Speaker 5: road that they came down. I said, well, man, how
Speaker 5: how close were they? He said, we when we looked
Speaker 5: around and first saw him, they were about sixty feet
Speaker 5: sixty feet. I said, well, how close did they get?
Speaker 5: He said that when the little one when they stopped
Speaker 5: the last time she hit that bank, said they were
Speaker 5: they were less than thirty feet. Thirty feet Now, look
Speaker 5: at that, that's the width of a noble house. I
Speaker 5: mean that that's close. But he said, you know, they
Speaker 5: were sitting there and said they they didn't do anything aggressive,
Speaker 5: nothing like that, but said they just had a stare
Speaker 5: off for a minute, and they took off and went back.
Speaker 5: So yeah, I mean, my heart went out of this
Speaker 5: guy because here he was in this, you know, trying
Speaker 5: to save himself and his wife and worried about his
Speaker 5: family and his house and all this stuff. His old
Speaker 5: world was passing down, not in the dang middle of it,
Speaker 5: when he's almost made it. He's within a hundred yard
Speaker 5: to where you think this safe place is. There's two
Speaker 5: big foots standing in the road, and I mean, you know,
Speaker 5: I can't imagine dealing with that. I don't know how
Speaker 5: the man didn't have a heart attack or a stroke
Speaker 5: or an artist stroke. I'd had them all, so I
Speaker 5: don't know. I mean, y'all, but it was one of
Speaker 5: the story. I mean, and I sit there and listen
Speaker 5: to this guy. We talked for probably hour in fifteen minutes,
Speaker 5: and his phone went dead, so I told him I'm
Speaker 5: getting back with him. I want to hear some more
Speaker 5: about the story. But we just, you know, I was
Speaker 5: just I wanted to talk to him because you know,
Speaker 5: a lot of people have of his encounters, especially if
Speaker 5: you're not in the know at all, and you know,
Speaker 5: really don't even believe in it. When you have an encounter,
Speaker 5: it will mentally mess you up. And I told I
Speaker 5: told Sheer, I said, I'd love to talk to him.
Speaker 5: I said, look, that's the only reason I came out
Speaker 5: and started talking about what was happening to me was
Speaker 5: because I met people that I figured that I could
Speaker 5: trust that were doing exactly what I'm trying to do now,
Speaker 5: which is is listening to people and tell them about
Speaker 5: what I've experienced myself. And it's like a support group.
Speaker 5: And I know people that hadn't had an encounter don't
Speaker 5: understand it. But if you've had an encounter, whether it
Speaker 5: was a bad encounter or a good encounter, odds are
Speaker 5: you've got some form of PTSD from it because it
Speaker 5: has changed your life in some way somehow.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And it's like, you know, we have you know,
Speaker 3: I don't know who who made them, A B and
Speaker 3: C and whatever, but it's just like what let Bama's fire.
Speaker 3: You know, he's out minding his own business doing this
Speaker 3: thing where you relax at his safe place, and you know,
Speaker 3: screamed that in such a way that you know he's
Speaker 3: sitting here now. He's been all over the you know,
Speaker 3: trying to trying to figure out what these things are.
Speaker 3: And and it's just amazes me on how kind of
Speaker 3: like we all found each other kind of by accident,
Speaker 3: you know, uh, mark or flowering anybody. Have y'all ever
Speaker 3: heard anything similar to that? I mean, I know they
Speaker 3: were probably trying to get away from the flood too,
Speaker 3: but you know, and and that's another thing. If it
Speaker 3: hadn't been for that. That guy. Still, I would have
Speaker 3: never believed an these things. So yeah, anybody heard anything
Speaker 3: similar happened to anybody else?
Speaker 4: M hmm, I've heard of anything like that. Wasn't a
Speaker 4: flood or nothing. These kids back in uh close to
Speaker 4: where I lived, place called Sandy Creek and o' allington.
Speaker 4: They went back there to camp in a no camping area,
Speaker 4: no people were allowed to camp back there. Well, they
Speaker 4: went back there. They ended up staying there a few
Speaker 4: days and somebody called and said they were missing and
Speaker 4: told them about where they was supposed to go camping. Uh.
Speaker 4: The game warden went back there, you know, to uh
Speaker 4: see if they were back there, if anything was wrong.
Speaker 4: And uh he gets back there, he finds the people.
Speaker 4: These their teenagers, you know, college kids, and uh they
Speaker 4: uh they said they couldn't leave because something kept walking
Speaker 4: around their camping area throwing stuff at him, growling at him,
Speaker 4: and they were afraid to get out of the woods
Speaker 4: to head back toward the where they where they went
Speaker 4: in at. Uh. Once the game warden got in there
Speaker 4: and started bringing them out. Next thing, you know, uh,
Speaker 4: this creature shows back up and he went after the ranger.
Speaker 4: The game warden actually snatched the backpack right off his back.
Speaker 4: We got those kids out of there, you know. But
Speaker 4: I guess that was the reason they weren't allowed back there,
Speaker 4: because they might know that thing was back there. I
Speaker 4: don't know, but that's the closest I've heard anything.
Speaker 3: What Greg just talk about Obama? Are you listening? Because uh,
Speaker 3: you know, it makes sense to be vicious, because you know,
Speaker 3: all of us have been to the l b L
Speaker 3: and you'll see places down and you know, for no
Speaker 3: good reason. And of course Bama's.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 3: I think the first time you had an encounter, you
Speaker 3: were across the water. Did I remember that right?
Speaker 9: Well, I'm gonna pause for just a second. Roger, you're
Speaker 9: cutting in and out pretty bad.
Speaker 6: It's just just on my end or uh no, you're
Speaker 6: clear as of baling man, I think Rogers.
Speaker 10: Roger, you're messing up.
Speaker 3: If y'all continue, And.
Speaker 6: Well, what it was was, you know, shortly after retiring,
Speaker 6: I kind of hooked back up with a buddy I
Speaker 6: worked with, uh almost my whole career. He retired several
Speaker 6: years before me, and I won't get into a long
Speaker 6: drawn out story, but that's how I got to LBL
Speaker 6: and started bowl hunting. Because I kind of was tired
Speaker 6: of guns. I'd just been around guns for so many years,
Speaker 6: and I just loved it. And we camped and you know,
Speaker 6: fish for years, any time of year, days at a time.
Speaker 6: He was there years before me, doing the same thing,
Speaker 6: and when you were talking about the floodwaters, it made
Speaker 6: me think of this. Nothing ever happened. Now. I can
Speaker 6: remember he and I sitting around the campfire and having conversations,
Speaker 6: and people have probably heard me say this. When he
Speaker 6: would get to drinking a little bit, he would kind
Speaker 6: of tell the same stories and wouldn't remember that he
Speaker 6: had told the same stories. So after things started happening,
Speaker 6: I would I would remember things that he said that
Speaker 6: had happened and just completely unbigfoot related to him, but
Speaker 6: things he had heard, you know, being there at that
Speaker 6: campsite and stuff like that. But nothing had ever happened
Speaker 6: to me until we came into camp one time and uh, my,
Speaker 6: my spot in the road has been made impassable. Now
Speaker 6: they've come in and dump logs and dump truckloads of
Speaker 6: dirt over it, you know, stuff like that. Uh, but
Speaker 6: uh uh, nothing ever happened the whole time I was there,
Speaker 6: until one time I was driving in on this old,
Speaker 6: you know, rutted out, muddy, you know, logging road there
Speaker 6: seemingly and uh everything up to my left had been burned.
Speaker 6: So whether it was a control, whether it was you know,
Speaker 6: something else, but that was the only thing that had changed,
Speaker 6: was that this whole area had been burned right up
Speaker 6: to the left side of the road. To the right side,
Speaker 6: it looked just like it, you know, always always had
Speaker 6: and and that's kind of when the stuff started happening.
Speaker 6: It's funny, is I want to throw this in as
Speaker 6: vast as land between the lakes is on past my
Speaker 6: camping spot, maybe only a quarter of a mile on
Speaker 6: the road. It it ended into the to the water,
Speaker 6: and that was a popular camping spot for a lot
Speaker 6: of bigfoot guys. So they had talked about things that
Speaker 6: had happened to them there unknowingly, uh that my camp
Speaker 6: spot was over a couple of hills, I mean, as
Speaker 6: a crow fires it it wasn't you know, far at all,
Speaker 6: which was interesting. And uh so later on when I
Speaker 6: took them to that spot, they said, man, we can't
Speaker 6: write below this, and this is what. So their area
Speaker 6: had burned and this was just the only way that
Speaker 6: my logic mind could could think about this at the time. Uh,
Speaker 6: that area had burned, so it had forced them up
Speaker 6: to uh to right up to the campsite. I mean
Speaker 6: it literally burned right up to the road, to the
Speaker 6: edge of the campsite.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 6: What's interesting now, let some outtop honting there for years.
Speaker 6: Land between the lakes is real strict. You can't put
Speaker 6: spikes into trees. I mean, I like these rules they have.
Speaker 6: You can't put spikes into trees and things like that.
Speaker 6: So you really have to kind of go in there
Speaker 6: with a clymbing and stand. So I had a really
Speaker 6: good climbing stand, which I've taken some good naps in.
Speaker 6: That thing was like a recliner when you were bowed
Speaker 6: up in that thing. So you know, you'd kind of
Speaker 6: leave walk in one direction or the other, you know,
Speaker 6: with your climbing stand. After maybe a couple of years
Speaker 6: of walking out in one direction all the time, I
Speaker 6: kind of learned that in that area there wasn't much
Speaker 6: for deer. I never really saw any over that area,
Speaker 6: you know, rub scrapes anything like that. I'd see turkeys
Speaker 6: and stuff. But if I went the other direction, that
Speaker 6: was where all the deer were you could sit in
Speaker 6: a tree, standing in my tree that I always got
Speaker 6: up in. I had to walk maybe, oh my gosh,
Speaker 6: probably half a mile through the woods. But at LBL
Speaker 6: when they do that, and they dropped the water real low,
Speaker 6: you know, and there's a lot of the bank showing
Speaker 6: that was a really good time for boat hunting because
Speaker 6: I could just kind of walk up the bank. But uh,
Speaker 6: it's weird how there really was no deer on that
Speaker 6: side that I used to see. But on the other side,
Speaker 6: I go get up in my tree and they would
Speaker 6: come through there like they were on a conveyor belt sometimes,
Speaker 6: you know. Uh, but that's the only time I can
Speaker 6: think about. That was the way that that burned up
Speaker 6: until that point. And I mean that seems pretty logical
Speaker 6: for any animals. It was completed devoid of animals after
Speaker 6: they after it burned up like that.
Speaker 3: Well, any any and I'm gonna say this to everybody here,
Speaker 3: anybody has a question, go ahead and ask it, because
Speaker 3: you know, I kind of want this to be a discussion.
Speaker 3: We could go a lot of ways with it, but
Speaker 3: I just kind of want to set the set the
Speaker 3: tone a little bit about it that that all of
Speaker 3: us know they're real and they found evidence and seeing
Speaker 3: them and all that, and you're going down the Marks area.
Speaker 3: And for y'all that don't know Mark, he he had
Speaker 3: an encounter and it did the same thing to him
Speaker 3: it did all of us. He started wanting to ask questions.
Speaker 3: And now he's to the point where, you know, I
Speaker 3: think Amanda contacted me one day and there was a
Speaker 3: man from Alabama, I want to talk to somebody, and
Speaker 3: we we got uh Mark, you know, in touch with him,
Speaker 3: and and that that there, uh is pretty it's pretty
Speaker 3: wild because we understand. You know, it's like we know
Speaker 3: what the people are going through, and you know that
Speaker 3: there's nothing like the absolute first time. I mean, whether
Speaker 3: whether it's a scream that shut your bones that's not
Speaker 3: supposed to happen, or or the tree over I mean
Speaker 3: that flat rock.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 3: He he made his own parabolic mic and he has
Speaker 3: told us before here that he records every night unless
Speaker 3: it's training. You know, Mark, Mark has to have a
Speaker 3: head on a swivel while he's plowing at his farm.
Speaker 3: And Mark, how how did you know? We know your encounter,
Speaker 3: your first encounter and all that, but how did it
Speaker 3: affect you after seeing that first one, Like, you know,
Speaker 3: you you're a farmer, you're outside, you're you're doing things.
Speaker 3: You're a hunter. Also you hunt creepy, which every you know,
Speaker 3: google creepy mountain.
Speaker 5: Y'all.
Speaker 3: How did it a few after the first time?
Speaker 12: Well, I mean it then uh got me to the
Speaker 12: point of, you know, did I really still want to hunt?
Speaker 12: Uh for for a little while. I mean it done
Speaker 12: a I've done a complete you know one eight but uh,
Speaker 12: you know, finally made up my mind said I'm not
Speaker 12: gonna let this run me out of the woods or
Speaker 12: change my lifestyle, you know. And of course praying to
Speaker 12: the Lord about it had a lot to do with
Speaker 12: it too.
Speaker 4: But it does.
Speaker 12: It may it makes you now when I go hunting
Speaker 12: or I'm out here farming, or I'm out in the woods,
Speaker 12: I'm continuously looking, I'm paying I'm trying to pay attention.
Speaker 12: And I think that's how I caught stuff because I
Speaker 12: was really paying attention and you know, stop and look
Speaker 12: at something. And so, yeah, I think it does change
Speaker 12: how you think about things. It definitely changed me, as
Speaker 12: I say, I had a reality check happen. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 12: and uh, because you know, we we've been taught most Hey,
Speaker 12: you know, this stuff don't exist. It's fairy tales made up.
Speaker 12: And then one day you're looking at one of these
Speaker 12: things fifty sixty foot away from you, and you're going,
Speaker 12: you know, wait a minute, you know, And then it
Speaker 12: starts also making you question everything else about science and history.
Speaker 12: What else is wrong or what else is being hid
Speaker 12: from us?
Speaker 9: So exactly one of my coworkers always says, whenever this
Speaker 9: happened to her, She's like, well, if this thing's real,
Speaker 9: and what else is real out there right right?
Speaker 12: You know, it really starts making you pay attention to
Speaker 12: your surroundings, pay attention to what people are saying. When
Speaker 12: I go hunting now, I still pay attention where I'm
Speaker 12: going up.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 12: I don't walk into real thick spots anymore. I go
Speaker 12: around them. You know you too. I would have plowed
Speaker 12: right food something I couldn't see two foot in front
Speaker 12: of me. I don't do that no more.
Speaker 3: And you know so, and I think you, I think
Speaker 3: you hit something there. I mean probably all of us now,
Speaker 3: just driving down the road. We've drove down at ten
Speaker 3: thousand times. You know, I've always looked for deer scanning
Speaker 3: or whatever. But uh, you know, now now there's something
Speaker 3: else you're scanning for, and in odds of seeing one
Speaker 3: or very.
Speaker 6: Very low, I do the same thing.
Speaker 4: Dude.
Speaker 5: I'm just.
Speaker 6: And I mean I'll catch myself just weaving off the
Speaker 6: road just like like what is that?
Speaker 9: Like?
Speaker 6: What is that black thing way up in that corner
Speaker 6: up there? You know, I mean I'm constantly looking.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna ask. I'm gonna ask everybody here a question.
Speaker 5: I know what the answerest. How many times a year
Speaker 5: do you go by and say something? I'll turn around
Speaker 5: and go back, buy and double check.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you.
Speaker 6: I've done it to a few power line roads, you
Speaker 6: know how you pass those and you'll take a quick
Speaker 6: look and a lot of times you'll catch that loans
Speaker 6: cedar tree, just a little cedar in Alabama. I mean
Speaker 6: that's what we got. And man, you'll get down the
Speaker 6: road about half a mile and you'll think, I'll never
Speaker 6: forgive myself. I don't go back and look. And I
Speaker 6: got chill bump some farm right now. As you're coming
Speaker 6: up to it, you're like, please be gone. Of course
Speaker 6: you want it to be something, you.
Speaker 3: Know, Yeah, And I what's funny? Uh, there's a place
Speaker 3: not two miles from here, just over the hill. Uh.
Speaker 3: We were driving uh one evening, just a couple of
Speaker 3: weeks ago, and I always look at that power line
Speaker 3: cut going straight up that that that hill, and the
Speaker 3: guy has cows, and every now and then there'll be
Speaker 3: a cow in there. Well, the other day, yes, I'm
Speaker 3: driving agin over and look and it's very there's something
Speaker 3: that gave me the heavy GBS and I don't know
Speaker 3: what it was, but it didn't look like a cow
Speaker 3: and I wanted to turn around and go back so bad,
Speaker 3: but we were on the way to do something. And
Speaker 3: you know, it's like Heather but here. So the people
Speaker 3: that don't understand what we're talking about is, you know,
Speaker 3: a deer hunter will look for deer, a turkey, they'll
Speaker 3: look for turkey and all that. So it comes with
Speaker 3: the territory, anything that you're interested in. And Heather, when
Speaker 3: we first got get twenty nineteen, she she's never done
Speaker 3: anything like that. So I had to teach her how
Speaker 3: to look for deer. And once I taught her how
Speaker 3: to look for deer, now she's spotting them before I do.
Speaker 3: But that never happened before.
Speaker 9: So you it's like us looking in the fridge and
Speaker 9: finding the ketchup.
Speaker 3: For once, I show you what the ketchup looks like.
Speaker 3: You find right, Oh man, I.
Speaker 10: Gotta give you all boys a hard time.
Speaker 3: I can't. I know, we like it so and I
Speaker 3: know before I asked Flat Rock, I know, but other
Speaker 3: people might not know. I know it changed you too,
Speaker 3: and you went through some something, didn't Didn't your wife
Speaker 3: move out for a while for five years? Yeah, So
Speaker 3: when we say these things, it changes your life. It
Speaker 3: changes people's lives to different degrees. You can tell us
Speaker 3: what happened the first time you were exposed to this.
Speaker 4: When I was first exposed, my brother was exposed first,
Speaker 4: which you know, as I told everybody, I didn't believe him,
Speaker 4: did not believe in the first bit. But just one day,
Speaker 4: all over my mom went over eating breakfast and uh,
Speaker 4: I come sit out on the back porch like I
Speaker 4: always do. Just want me a cigarette, And I was
Speaker 4: listening to uh, mister Bobby up there working on the
Speaker 4: cook shack, and I just had to look over to
Speaker 4: my left and there was this big old black thing
Speaker 4: standing right there behind the bush. And it wasn't looking
Speaker 4: at me at that point, but it was just there,
Speaker 4: big old black thing, and I'm just looking at it,
Speaker 4: and this thing starts turning and he turned real slowly.
Speaker 4: Then once we like ey, you know, oh, I gotta
Speaker 4: do it. Just drop my head, yo. I knew what
Speaker 4: it was because you know, my brother was already talking about.
Speaker 3: It, right, YO, So I can just all.
Speaker 4: I don't drop my head, YO. Doesn't want to get
Speaker 4: back in the house, because that's how big.
Speaker 3: I've got a very important question. I've got a very
Speaker 3: important question for you, flat Rock and everybody out there
Speaker 3: in internet world. When you saw it, did you go
Speaker 3: apologize to your brother?
Speaker 5: I really did?
Speaker 4: I tell it? Hey, I tell everybody. I trouble all
Speaker 4: people online. Yo. I proudly wear a foot in my mouth.
Speaker 3: Because that's rare. I commend to you, because that is
Speaker 3: rare a lot of times, you know. And and y'all,
Speaker 3: you know, we we we look at this and these
Speaker 3: things that have happened to us and other people we know,
Speaker 3: and then we start kind of looking at ourselves, you know.
Speaker 3: We you know Mark was talking about I know he's
Speaker 3: talked about this before. I've learned more about this, you know,
Speaker 3: talking with you guys and other people, and then looking
Speaker 3: at at me kind of you know, and and what
Speaker 3: I you know, believe in and all this and it
Speaker 3: it kind of it kind of shakes you up a
Speaker 3: little bit, you know, like if you're a Christian, You're like, well,
Speaker 3: how does this fit in? Because I'm not going to
Speaker 3: you know, I'm not going to go to the the
Speaker 3: thinking that everything's wrong. You know, I have my faith.
Speaker 3: But so I've had to talk with people like Mark
Speaker 3: and other people that how does this fit in? And
Speaker 3: it and not only shakes up your life, it shakes
Speaker 3: up your understanding of things. But once you start digging,
Speaker 3: it all falls right back into place. It all leads
Speaker 3: back to one place. But it's I think that you
Speaker 3: know each group around the country that they go investigat
Speaker 3: or they just talk to each other like you know
Speaker 3: we do. I don't know what I would have done.
Speaker 3: I mean I held it in for years and years
Speaker 3: and years. But now I could call Bama up and
Speaker 3: talk to him freely about it. Anybody here I could
Speaker 3: do that. And that's such such a relief, you know,
Speaker 3: to have that and people that are out there that
Speaker 3: you know, there's people in Chat that have had terrifying
Speaker 3: encounters or just encounters that I've had. I had people
Speaker 3: just at the at the conference. Hey, I watch your
Speaker 3: show all the time. I watch Woodwalkers, I watch all
Speaker 3: the I can't I can't get in chat because of
Speaker 3: my job. How many times you guys heard that I
Speaker 3: can't talk about this because of my job. And imagine
Speaker 3: you take reports. Greg kind of takes some unofficial reports,
Speaker 3: you know, talking to people. I know Obama does. He
Speaker 3: goes to people's places and tries to help them. And mhm,
Speaker 3: you know Mark with with We want to say the
Speaker 3: guy or what he did, but you know, him calling
Speaker 3: you and talking to you not only did it help him,
Speaker 3: it helped you too, right, Yeah, can you tell us
Speaker 3: a little bit about that.
Speaker 12: Well, in fact, I thank y'all have had two of
Speaker 12: them call me. The one guy that called me, Uh,
Speaker 12: I won't say the state he lives in. Uh, well,
Speaker 12: one of them lived in Alabama. I will say that
Speaker 12: one of them lived in Georgia, so we'll leave it there.
Speaker 12: But the guy from Georgia, I'll talk about him for
Speaker 12: a second. He Uh, he just had a lot of
Speaker 12: questions and the more and more we dug into it, uh,
Speaker 12: his property, he didn't out nobody'd hunt on his property,
Speaker 12: but they was hunting property all our way around it.
Speaker 12: And he would tell me, he would say, man, I said,
Speaker 12: I don't know what it is. Come about August September,
Speaker 12: stuff starts happening around my house, and then specially October
Speaker 12: up through December. I said, well, you know, and we
Speaker 12: talked for a while and he didn't let me know
Speaker 12: right up the front that he didn't let nobody hunt
Speaker 12: on his property. We kept talking is finding fingerprints, handprints
Speaker 12: on his vehicle. He was hearing stuff run across his uh,
Speaker 12: his roof at night time that he said it wouldn't cool,
Speaker 12: or possums. He said it was too big, and it
Speaker 12: had footsteps with like a human. He would go outside
Speaker 12: shinn the light, wouldn't see nothing. And he even sending me,
Speaker 12: you know, he sent me pictures of the fingers and
Speaker 12: handprints on the car. And I'll go ahead tell you
Speaker 12: he had his hand up next to him and this
Speaker 12: this would be a lot bigger than even my hand.
Speaker 12: So and then when he come out and said about
Speaker 12: what I don't allow honey property, but there's hunting clubs
Speaker 12: all around me. And his activity picks up about September,
Speaker 12: you know, and you then I said yeah. I said,
Speaker 12: since you don't allow honting and there's honting all around you,
Speaker 12: they're coming to your property. They're hanging out on your
Speaker 12: property probably during the daytime, and then at night they
Speaker 12: probably spread back out. I said, they're hanging out around
Speaker 12: your place because it's a safe place. And I said,
Speaker 12: I want likely that's what you're dealing with us, especially
Speaker 12: the fingerprints and the handprints on your car. And I said,
Speaker 12: you know, as what as I do, a bearer probably
Speaker 12: ain't gonna get up on top of your roof and
Speaker 12: run around and you would probably get a glimpse of it,
Speaker 12: you know. And I said, signed out boogers to me,
Speaker 12: you know, that's what I told him. And he said, well,
Speaker 12: he said, you're the first one has really come out
Speaker 12: and said that's probably what it is. He said, I've
Speaker 12: had people say bear coons. I said, well, I'll tell
Speaker 12: you right now, just looking at the handprints on the car,
Speaker 12: that ain't a bear or coon. I said, If it is,
Speaker 12: that's a five hundred pound coon running around you know where.
Speaker 12: I said, that ain't a bear, Paul, you know, that's
Speaker 12: that's something with five fingers, you know. And the guy
Speaker 12: here in Alabama, lives in a subdivision, and you know,
Speaker 12: he seeing something, you know, shoot across his road in
Speaker 12: his subdivision one night, right at dark, and you know,
Speaker 12: he was talking about where he lived at you know,
Speaker 12: and you know, went to looking and he was right
Speaker 12: in some places where there's been sos and the and
Speaker 12: come to find out there some fruit trees over in
Speaker 12: that yard where this was heading to. So you know,
Speaker 12: I told him, I said, probably going in the fruit trees.
Speaker 12: And I said, they don't care about subdivisions, I said.
Speaker 12: You know, I took reports from right at Birmingham on
Speaker 12: the Cahaba River. I mean, you could see Birmingham in
Speaker 12: the distance ten miles away, and it was out in
Speaker 12: the suburbs of Birmingham, but it was still a busy place.
Speaker 12: And you know, these people were having boogers on. You know,
Speaker 12: these were mellion dollar homes in a gated community, and
Speaker 12: these boogers were running around in that gated community, you know,
Speaker 12: and they even hired security guards and some of the
Speaker 12: security guards quit working, you know, they you know, it
Speaker 12: got to that point and then they finally moved off
Speaker 12: from there. You know, I don't know where they went.
Speaker 12: They went up river and went down river. But they
Speaker 12: finally left that area. But you know, people keep bringing
Speaker 12: up about you know, they're out in the Pacific Northwest
Speaker 12: or swamps of Florida or you know, Ana. Yeah they're there,
Speaker 12: but they sitting right here next door to you in
Speaker 12: town too.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 3: Well Mark has you know, you know how Mark is.
Speaker 3: And I had gone outside and I man and here,
Speaker 3: I'm I live in the edge of town, a little
Speaker 3: small town. And for y'all that know heard about Dolly's
Speaker 3: truck stop, it's the old Tennessee and truck stop. It's
Speaker 3: five miles from here. And you know, you can go
Speaker 3: across the road here, go across the yard of the neighbor,
Speaker 3: and then that fence. They're over that fence. There's nothing
Speaker 3: from myles and Mark. Mark told me one night, I
Speaker 3: had this terrible smell. But uh we eliminated everything. We
Speaker 3: figured out what it was. But uh, Mark said, don't
Speaker 3: be surprised if they don't, you know, come around a
Speaker 3: little bit in town. And I'm like, oh, don't say that.
Speaker 3: And then y'all a month, month and a half, I
Speaker 3: got a report from two miles of the crow flies
Speaker 3: from my front porch and it's a huge farm. It's
Speaker 3: a huge farm, and there's all these hills, and you
Speaker 3: go a little south and then you start getting into
Speaker 3: biff Row reports and then you go over here. Now
Speaker 3: I've had them five miles and you know, seven miles
Speaker 3: and ten miles this way, because you got Richland Creek
Speaker 3: and you do all of this area that these rich
Speaker 3: people own from Nashville area, Whimson County, which down my
Speaker 3: nose that where that is, of course. But what they
Speaker 3: do is they it's it's more of a recreation land form.
Speaker 3: They bought them starting like in the thirties, forties and
Speaker 3: fifties and bought up massive outs of land and they
Speaker 3: come down and do what they call they got a
Speaker 3: fox hunters club. But they'll have their fancy horses and
Speaker 3: slip breeches and they'll they'll burn the dogs loose and
Speaker 3: on a coyotier, you know, and they don't kill the kyoti.
Speaker 3: But they're not they're never there. The people that live
Speaker 3: in the area a different story. I've gotten several reports
Speaker 3: from years ago up to I think the most recent
Speaker 3: one was like around twenty eighteen, but this one right
Speaker 3: over here was fourteen years ago. And yes, we're going
Speaker 3: to go over there eventually when it cools off. But
Speaker 3: but I thought that when when I was taking that report,
Speaker 3: I guess I thought of Mark Green. I'm like, Dad, gummit, Mark.
Speaker 3: But but you think about it, I don't care where
Speaker 3: you're at. If an animal, a wild animal, can get
Speaker 3: a easy meal, they're going to chance it a lot
Speaker 3: of times. You know, when when my yard has clover
Speaker 3: in it, I walk out sometimes to carry the dog out,
Speaker 3: and they'll scare the crowd of me blowing because I'm
Speaker 3: not expecting deer to be in town. So, man, man,
Speaker 3: there's so many places. Here's one thing. And Bama brought
Speaker 3: this up. I'll give him credit. And Greg and a
Speaker 3: group of his friends were the one of some of
Speaker 3: the first ones to ever talk about this. And I
Speaker 3: understand we have a lot of people that watch and
Speaker 3: listen a lot of these shows, and then they'll start
Speaker 3: asking other people and they'll start commenting. It kind of
Speaker 3: spreads out.
Speaker 6: But so.
Speaker 3: When when a group of you know, the odds of
Speaker 3: getting struck by lightning are way up there, you know,
Speaker 3: and when you're setting in a truck with bigfoot investigators
Speaker 3: that have have had all these you experienced and they
Speaker 3: all found out that they've been struck by lightning and
Speaker 3: they're all setting in this truck and Greg, did your
Speaker 3: mouths fall open? Because you're instantly like, I don't know
Speaker 3: if you can figure the odds, but you know the
Speaker 3: odds are like MASSI and Bama. I fewanna if you wanna,
Speaker 3: you know, ask great questions or whatever, You're welcome do.
Speaker 5: Uh that Roger that was let me let me set
Speaker 5: the scene on that.
Speaker 6: That was.
Speaker 5: That was the first time I'd ever went out bootering
Speaker 5: with with comboat and it was there were several of
Speaker 5: us went, but Bombo had pulled up and we were
Speaker 5: in this little town that I lived in. We've been
Speaker 5: to a couple of places around here and had we
Speaker 5: had TV that night, I mean had a good bit.
Speaker 5: But there were some storms coming in. That was a
Speaker 5: big squall line and we pulled up in town, which
Speaker 5: is only a couple of miles from my house, and uh,
Speaker 5: I told him, I said, look, I made to run
Speaker 5: the house and grab some stuff. I'll be back in
Speaker 5: just a minute. Y'all just wait on me right here.
Speaker 5: So we got like four truck loads of people and
Speaker 5: I'm in my truck. So I'm standing there and I'm talking.
Speaker 5: Jimmy Osmer was in the truck in the front of
Speaker 5: comboat truck, then most driving Jimmy Osman, and then in
Speaker 5: the back it was Cheryl Corncastle and Toy Allen. Well,
Speaker 5: they had the windows down on the pastor's side where
Speaker 5: I was standing. And about the time I say that
Speaker 5: there's a big boat a lot that he just streaks
Speaker 5: across the sky over our head and goes across, just
Speaker 5: standing out and then you hear it go down and
Speaker 5: go boom, and here was everything. Well about this time,
Speaker 5: I kind of, you know, I'm like a turtle. I
Speaker 5: pulled my head down. I said, you show us words
Speaker 5: and I said that gum, you know, I get a
Speaker 5: little little gIBIS or a little nervous when that light
Speaker 5: and then goes to popping. I said, you know, I've
Speaker 5: done survived, been hit twice. I don't want to go
Speaker 5: for number three. Well, I noticed that Troy Allen's eyes
Speaker 5: got kind of big, and he's like had this walk
Speaker 5: to look on his face. And I told him, I said,
Speaker 5: I'll be right back. Well we left when you know,
Speaker 5: I went on come back, so on Bloey. We went
Speaker 5: out burgers More and that night was one of the
Speaker 5: nights that Nate Nate Bolden was with us, and Nate
Speaker 5: got a really good thermal from like three hundred yards
Speaker 5: from where I'm sitting right now. We done some calling
Speaker 5: and there was two boggers coming around the side of
Speaker 5: the mountain. We were on an old bed end road
Speaker 5: that closed, but there was two boggers coming around and
Speaker 5: we was like handing the night or the furmal, moving
Speaker 5: back and forth and watching them. And there was two
Speaker 5: of them. They come around. They would hide behind trees
Speaker 5: and crouch and they would graves up look at us,
Speaker 5: and then they left. But anyway, that was on like
Speaker 5: a like a that was a Saturday night. Well then
Speaker 5: that Monday, you know, everybody went home Sunday from coasp
Speaker 5: We had people like Bucks State out of state, and
Speaker 5: it was combos really close group of guys. Well, you know,
Speaker 5: they brought me into the into the fold. They brought
Speaker 5: me in and you know that's a blessing. I think
Speaker 5: I'll never be able to get over them. I got
Speaker 5: a phone call from Troy because we all swapped swamp
Speaker 5: phone numbers. Well Troy calls me, he said, uh, I
Speaker 5: gotta I gotta talk to you about something. I said,
Speaker 5: what He said, you kind of blew in mind the
Speaker 5: other night. I said, I don't know what I did.
Speaker 5: He said, well, look said you when you said something
Speaker 5: about being hit by lot and why? I said yeah,
Speaker 5: and the equal both times. I said it was my
Speaker 5: you know, it was really horrible. He said, uh, he said,
Speaker 5: I just looked at Cheryl after you turned around, and
Speaker 5: he's like, you know what what? You know what? What? Well,
Speaker 5: they got talking about it, how Caryl had been hit
Speaker 5: by light, now Toroy had been hit by light man.
Speaker 13: Then they found out I'd been hit by lighting, and
Speaker 13: then later on we figured out Combo had been hit
Speaker 13: by lighting. Jimmy Osman had been hit by lot. So
Speaker 13: all five of us guys that were standing right there
Speaker 13: to the truck had all been hit by lot. And well,
Speaker 13: then we started bringing it up for other people and
Speaker 13: we started finding.
Speaker 5: Out there was a bunch more of us has been
Speaker 5: hit by life. My buddy Allan, my like my brothers
Speaker 5: that frou us away last year, Alan had been hit
Speaker 5: by lot. I mean, what's the odds, what's the odds
Speaker 5: that's like getting a lot of twenty times in a row.
Speaker 3: I can't even imagine the the odds. I put that
Speaker 3: in the the little computer and check that.
Speaker 10: But go ahead, that's definitely the odds on that is
Speaker 10: pretty nuts.
Speaker 5: And what and here here's the thing, guys, I mean,
Speaker 5: this is this is some of the stuff that you know,
Speaker 5: we're we're grasping it straws trying to come up with
Speaker 5: the ideas their theories. And and Troyroy, he is like
Speaker 5: his mind's always running. If met Troy, Troy is a
Speaker 5: very intelligent guy. And Troy is the one person that
Speaker 5: came boat Baker will tell you that Troy Allen probably
Speaker 5: has had more encounters and knows more about bogers than
Speaker 5: anybody on the on it just go on the breath. Troy,
Speaker 5: he talked about He and I even went down the
Speaker 5: rabbit hole of of is it something that that about
Speaker 5: our our chemical make up, our body. Maybe we've got
Speaker 5: more negative bonds. Maybe that the things that the burger
Speaker 5: picks up on certain people that that even our We
Speaker 5: even went as far as the aura, like if they
Speaker 5: if they can see the aura on somebody, is ours
Speaker 5: a different color and makes us stand out, or as
Speaker 5: our body giving off more negative energy, and that's what
Speaker 5: draws a lot. And then why did the boger see that?
Speaker 5: I mean, look, we went down every kind of rabbit
Speaker 5: hole with that, you can find them and uh, you
Speaker 5: know theories for sure? Yeah, I mean I don't know.
Speaker 5: I have no clue.
Speaker 3: So let me let me let me put this in
Speaker 3: perspective for people, because this this number blew my mind.
Speaker 3: I don't even know what it is. I just I
Speaker 3: just asked that question. I use seven people coming together,
Speaker 3: not everybody knew each other, you know, set the stage
Speaker 3: the odds. Let me make sure I got this right.
Speaker 3: So this is a weird word. That's rough. The chances
Speaker 3: of that happening are roughly one and a ninety six optilion.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I don't even know what that is.
Speaker 5: Let me let me throw this song Roger. Now, look
Speaker 5: we got finding out the man sitting down there in
Speaker 5: the bottom left corners, flat rock. He was holding the
Speaker 5: telephone that come through the telephone and got.
Speaker 3: It ain't funny, flat Rock.
Speaker 5: I just uh.
Speaker 12: Goes, Yeah, he does not.
Speaker 10: Stand so close to you. Off I ever finally get
Speaker 10: to get together.
Speaker 3: And I've never been hit, but I've been so close
Speaker 3: like somebody God was looking out for me. A couple
Speaker 3: of times, because the one time that it almost got me,
Speaker 3: all the hair stood up on my body and I'm
Speaker 3: looking on and I remember the hunter safety course what
Speaker 3: they told us about you know what possibly happened before
Speaker 3: a lightning strike. I'm holding a fast door handle and
Speaker 3: the guy beside me and you offerd me tell this.
Speaker 3: Before I realized what was happening, I let go grabbed
Speaker 3: him and pulled him off of it and said, lightning,
Speaker 3: you know whatever, it struck this transformer just right out
Speaker 3: right here. When I turned around, everybody in the whole
Speaker 3: store was looking at me like I was an alien.
Speaker 3: They're like that was about to happen. I said, y'all
Speaker 3: didn't feel that, Like no, So.
Speaker 6: That's really how that's really how this whole show got started.
Speaker 6: Was I just said, yeah, man, we should do a
Speaker 6: show about people have been struck by lightning. Because I've
Speaker 6: been struck. I've been struck twice.
Speaker 4: It also makes me wonder that guy there instead of
Speaker 4: call that that got struck so many times I had
Speaker 4: big food encounters.
Speaker 5: You're right, you're right here for sure.
Speaker 3: Well, and like y'all said, you know, we're way past
Speaker 3: the point. We all know the real, we've seen them,
Speaker 3: we've heard them, we found tracks, whatever. So didn't you
Speaker 3: start looking at like, Okay, what do we have in common?
Speaker 3: When you see that that's one of those things that
Speaker 3: you can look up the odds And y'all knew. Y'all
Speaker 3: didn't know what the number was, but y'all knew as
Speaker 3: soon as y'all started talking that it was astronomical. And
Speaker 3: I and I didn't even put in there that some
Speaker 3: of y'all got hit twice.
Speaker 4: The first time.
Speaker 5: The first time it knocked me unconscious, and then when
Speaker 5: I came back to I was blind totally. R I'm
Speaker 5: talking about Rachael was blind. Couldn't see nothing, and I
Speaker 5: could feel people slapping me on the face and saying
Speaker 5: my name and trying to wake me up. And I
Speaker 5: remember thinking, why can't I see anything? And it took
Speaker 5: it a few minutes, and then it was like I
Speaker 5: was in a dark room and it was like somebody
Speaker 5: had one of the dimmers witches. It was like a
Speaker 5: little bit of light was coming in and then it
Speaker 5: started to get like light and like where it was
Speaker 5: a person, it was like a dark dark like just
Speaker 5: like a silhouette. I could see them moving and I
Speaker 5: couldn't pick them out.
Speaker 6: Well.
Speaker 5: It kept brightening up, brightening up, brightening up, And when
Speaker 5: I got to where I could see again, it was
Speaker 5: like watching one of the televisions that we had in
Speaker 5: the bedroom when I was a kid. Everything was black
Speaker 5: and white. I was, I was overcolored black. Everything was
Speaker 5: black white, and I'm like, weird it out because it's
Speaker 5: like I ain't seen now, But where'd all the color go? After?
Speaker 5: After several minutes, the colors didn't come back at one time.
Speaker 5: They came back like one color at a time, like
Speaker 5: you were like, what's that? A little red? On'side a
Speaker 5: little blue? That's that little green? And I got to
Speaker 5: where I could say color again? And what's the funny
Speaker 5: about this? I mean, I was, I was really young
Speaker 5: when this and what it did? The line and hit
Speaker 5: a power pole and I was about three feet from
Speaker 5: the fire pose so it ran down the fire pole,
Speaker 5: come in the ground, and yall, it ought make bleue
Speaker 5: out wondering I had to kill me, and yo, I
Speaker 5: thought I was totally got over. Everything's fine and y'all
Speaker 5: probably i'd say probably seventeen sixteen, seventeen years ago, I was,
Speaker 5: you know what I do for a living. I work
Speaker 5: a lot of latronics in century units. To let some
Speaker 5: more on it, put a CENTI reunited in where they
Speaker 5: turned its sideways and there was a wall, and to
Speaker 5: get my head in there where it was fired up,
Speaker 5: I could only get my right eye and my head
Speaker 5: was mashing to get inside. And I'm looking and there
Speaker 5: got the light and kept I was searching for a
Speaker 5: purple white. This thing had like twelve wires, and I
Speaker 5: kept looking and I could only get one eye to
Speaker 5: see in this hole. And I'm looking, like, where's this
Speaker 5: There's no purple, And I'd look at the smating, I'd
Speaker 5: go back. I let right eye and I'm like, there's
Speaker 5: no purple wire. And I've done that, mad, I mean,
Speaker 5: I'm done, like furious, I'm looking. Well, finally I get
Speaker 5: my head wedged by, and without light on it, I'm
Speaker 5: seeing and I'm like, there's two brown wires. Why is
Speaker 5: there two? This doesn't come for too brown wires is
Speaker 5: supposed to be a brown, you know, and all these
Speaker 5: other colors brown and a purple. But I got two brown.
Speaker 5: And the very second that I finally squeezed my nose
Speaker 5: by and my left I could see it one of
Speaker 5: those brown wars turned purple. I'm like, I did not
Speaker 5: know I couldn't see purple with my right eye, so
Speaker 5: I can't if I see purple with my right eye,
Speaker 5: looks brown now. And I've made it this whole time,
Speaker 5: from from childhood up to you know, say forty years
Speaker 5: old or close to forty, I didn't know I couldn't see,
Speaker 5: you know, purple in my right eye. But the last
Speaker 5: time I got in my line, I was laying under
Speaker 5: house putting duck work up. Put it together, been muddled
Speaker 5: up with I'm pushing it up and the guy behind me,
Speaker 5: he was laying. We're laying on the ground, and where
Speaker 5: I was laying it was plastic, but from my waist
Speaker 5: up was on the dirt the plastic, and then it
Speaker 5: coming up when it comes a severe to understorm. And
Speaker 5: I thought, well, we're under a house. This is like
Speaker 5: being in a basement. I ain't worried. We're working da dah,
Speaker 5: We're trying to get done. Well, did I know, you
Speaker 5: know we're we're about four feet from the outside walk
Speaker 5: were right on the outside of the house about four
Speaker 5: more feet because a big companiently, I mean a massive one.
Speaker 5: Why man hits that tree, runs down, runs the roots under,
Speaker 5: the foundation comes through me, goes in my side, in
Speaker 5: my arm, and when I'm pushing this little work up,
Speaker 5: it wasn't just like zout. It was like what what what? What? Boom?
Speaker 5: And y'all it blew fire off my hands, my fingers
Speaker 5: like I looked like a magician. It was like fire.
Speaker 5: And instantly I crumple up in a fetfuls. Every muscle
Speaker 5: in my body like curls up, and I fall on
Speaker 5: my back and I'm laying there and my teeth were
Speaker 5: like like popping. My jaw was slammed, so tired, and
Speaker 5: I can't I can't do anything, and I'm gonna full
Speaker 5: layd on my back, full fatal position, knees will pulled
Speaker 5: up to my chints and I'm just shaking. Well, the
Speaker 5: guy's with me. It didn't get him because he wasn't
Speaker 5: touching anything on that plastic, that thick plastic. But he's
Speaker 5: just laid there and watching it get hit by lightning.
Speaker 5: And he's screaming, or you okay, are you all right?
Speaker 5: Or you all right? Well I can't answer him because
Speaker 5: it basically made me have a full blown seizure and
Speaker 5: and y'all. I didn't like slowly come out of it.
Speaker 5: It was like somebody hit the off switch and went
Speaker 5: and it's it's like being tased.
Speaker 10: Yeah, it sounds like you could take I've been.
Speaker 6: I've been tased twice. Oh, it's exactly. It's exactly like
Speaker 6: the thing about that time though, y'all. I've got some
Speaker 6: big old crowns. I got two gold crowns right here.
Speaker 5: Those gold crowns got hot and it actually burned the
Speaker 5: inside of my jaw. Oh my gosh, yeah, it was.
Speaker 10: I gotta ask a silly question, would you have did
Speaker 10: you have the beard then?
Speaker 4: Or was she I.
Speaker 5: Had a I had a baby goat. It was about
Speaker 5: this bey not that way. But now I didn't have
Speaker 5: my beard going out. But y'all, the weird thing I
Speaker 5: was sore. I'm talking about sore from headitoes for about
Speaker 5: four days the day after the day after which I
Speaker 5: didn't have all my ink then, But like my bicyp
Speaker 5: my trisaps, my arms, my chest muscles, even my chest muscles.
Speaker 5: I had light bruising come up my legs, my cash,
Speaker 5: my thighs, big major muscle groups. It was like like
Speaker 5: somebody beat me with a ball bat. I had bruising
Speaker 5: come up all over and then it went away. No
Speaker 5: effect from it other than that. But I'm telling you,
Speaker 5: it starts popping a lot, and then I'm getting in
Speaker 5: the bigle I'm getting in the house.
Speaker 12: I'm doing something, y'all am.
Speaker 3: I blurry to y'all just a little bit, but all right, yeah,
Speaker 3: I turned off I turned off a couple of devices, so.
Speaker 12: Maybe to help my I'm sorry everybody, that was correct,
Speaker 12: And y'all would.
Speaker 3: My sugar looking like that?
Speaker 10: Looks good?
Speaker 3: I tell Mecca what you got?
Speaker 5: Oh? No, I show us that is that some of
Speaker 5: that ice cream made right down the road.
Speaker 12: Mark that's that's not.
Speaker 3: See if I need if I was gonna move somewhere,
Speaker 3: they got all the best food places, the Conic of
Speaker 3: Sausage and all that, and we can get it here,
Speaker 3: but we don't have a big of uh, you know, choices.
Speaker 3: Y'all do some really good stuff if y'll never tried it.
Speaker 3: So so all right, Greg, you know you told what
Speaker 3: happened to guy in Tennessee. I want Flat Rock to
Speaker 3: tell because a lot of us have been to Greg's
Speaker 3: man cave, and you know, y'all, y'all y'all hear us.
Speaker 3: We yeah, you know, we found tracks, We've had stuff
Speaker 3: happen whatever. But you know, we do a video call.
Speaker 3: I don't get to do it all the time, but
Speaker 3: there's about six or seven of us, you know. Usually
Speaker 3: we'll we'll just shoot whatever and talk. And uh, flat
Speaker 3: Rock was at Gregg's and went out to smoke a
Speaker 3: cigarette and uh, I remember Greg. I believe it all
Speaker 3: blends in. But Greg said, are you all right? Flat Rock?
Speaker 3: And he said, no, you tell us what happened to you?
Speaker 4: Uh? I think one started up as a call on
Speaker 4: this one and uh, me and Gray was in the
Speaker 4: same room right there with Greg's sitting at right now,
Speaker 4: so we we was echoing off each other. So I
Speaker 4: walked outside sitting there at the picnic table on there
Speaker 4: on the back Ford.
Speaker 6: Bad Idea.
Speaker 10: There and just hear it.
Speaker 4: Right there on that corner corner that was your favorite spot.
Speaker 12: I heard. That's why I said. There.
Speaker 4: I'm sitting there, you know, and we're just talking away
Speaker 4: and uh, the next thing you know, I'm hearing this
Speaker 4: the blowing sound, breathing, heavy breathing, and I just stopped.
Speaker 4: I'm listening. But you know, it's hard to hear. You know,
Speaker 4: I'm thinking it's coming off the off our zoom call.
Speaker 4: So I'm mute to zoom call, and I'm still hearing
Speaker 4: this heavy breathing and this right here around this corner right.
Speaker 11: There where I'm sitting, and it's dark, no light.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I jumped up, Yo, bet you said, what the
Speaker 4: ef ended?
Speaker 14: My call?
Speaker 4: Went in the house, sit down, and I'm sitting there
Speaker 4: rubbing my head like this right here. And Greg could
Speaker 4: tell something was wrong with me when I walked in
Speaker 4: and started rubbing my head, and uh, it was wrong
Speaker 4: with that rock. I said, Uh, I think you got
Speaker 4: something out there, thank you. There's one right down around
Speaker 4: that corner. And my goodness, dude, that was something else.
Speaker 4: I mean, we've had our little encounters here over our
Speaker 4: zoom calls, you know, the ice rind the house and
Speaker 4: stuff like that. Yeah, y'all, that was a thing got
Speaker 4: right up close to me.
Speaker 12: I was right on top of it, a thing, that thing.
Speaker 4: Know how that thing got up that close to me
Speaker 4: without me hearing just one little found just one of
Speaker 4: those time. Because I'm I'm already hyped up just by
Speaker 4: living here. Okay, every little sound I'm jacked up to
Speaker 4: you my head on that swivel, But that thing got
Speaker 4: up behind me. Did not hear it one bit until
Speaker 4: started breathing, and uh, it got it got me, sure.
Speaker 6: It got The thing about that deck is it's built.
Speaker 6: Greg can probably tell me tell you this. But that
Speaker 6: thing's either built right up all the way to the corner. Yes, okay,
Speaker 6: the deck's built all the way right up to the corner.
Speaker 6: So there's not any rail against that wall where the
Speaker 6: steps go down against the wall. And we ain't talking
Speaker 6: about a long set of steps. We're talking about like
Speaker 6: a step or two steps maybe. And you're on the
Speaker 6: pine straw. And if you and and so, if you're
Speaker 6: sitting in a chair right there at the corner on
Speaker 6: the deck where the steps go down, you could probably
Speaker 6: reach your right arm out and probably stick your maybe
Speaker 6: your wrists around the corner, you know, all the way
Speaker 6: out there. And and then you got six inches of
Speaker 6: pine straw on that side of the house too.
Speaker 10: I told you you should be able to hear it
Speaker 10: moving around, you would think, I said.
Speaker 6: I said, Well, the thing is is I got over there.
Speaker 6: So you have pine straw decaying underneath, and you know,
Speaker 6: just all different years and years of the way it
Speaker 6: breaks down. But when you get to walk there, it's
Speaker 6: like a deep sponge when you walk around that one
Speaker 6: end there because these are big pond of rosa pines
Speaker 6: h and you you can't hear it's it's you just
Speaker 6: ease right up on somebody, you know. Around inside that place,
Speaker 6: which is also where the wind is that where I
Speaker 6: always sleep. We're a sleeping at the bedroom over there.
Speaker 3: I don't well when the can load that picture, not
Speaker 3: I sent you a picture.
Speaker 5: If we're we're where flat Rock was setting. If I
Speaker 5: went out there and set right now and took a
Speaker 5: tape major and pulled it to the corner at those steps,
Speaker 5: it's about twelve feet, so that one walked up within
Speaker 5: twelve feet and from where flat Rock was setting, it
Speaker 5: walked that closed. But look, we've had him come up
Speaker 5: a bunch of times, just a dark end of the house.
Speaker 5: They'll come up out there. Uh Maisty Sherry Dinah Uh.
Speaker 5: Misty's sister Caitlin and her husband now Hunter. There was
Speaker 5: a bunch of us on the porch one night we
Speaker 5: had one come up through the woods. We heard it
Speaker 5: out there and we kept seeing red eyes shine about
Speaker 5: seven or seven and a half feet off the ground
Speaker 5: and it went around I've got a connex for a
Speaker 5: Scorge building. It was on the left side, he could say,
Speaker 5: the eyes doing like embers back in the wood. We're
Speaker 5: talking about maybe seventy five feet. Well, it went around
Speaker 5: the back of the connects that came out on the
Speaker 5: other side the light. I tell him said, look this,
Speaker 5: there's one right over there. Don't don't everybody look at once.
Speaker 5: You know, if you go to look, just just glance
Speaker 5: and kind of turn your head. You know it's over here.
Speaker 5: Don't just stare looking at it.
Speaker 3: Well, there there's the corner right there.
Speaker 5: Yeah, the brown on the right side that, that's the
Speaker 5: ports boat. And that's the corner. And it walked up
Speaker 5: right there.
Speaker 4: That's where it walked up.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And and so there's no light that hits that area.
Speaker 3: And that's that's what you know, Bama tell you. We
Speaker 3: both agree. I'm not sitting there with the light off,
Speaker 3: and and and I'm near the door when I am
Speaker 3: with the light on, and Misty one night Jr. And
Speaker 3: all of a sudden, out there Heather and Missy went
Speaker 3: to turn the light off. And here I come up
Speaker 3: my hobble. But I'm like, where are you going? I said,
Speaker 3: in the house. I ain't sitting here because y'all they
Speaker 3: can get on you too fast. I mean, I I
Speaker 3: know that, brother.
Speaker 6: Uh, but leave that up there. A second Roger. Uh,
Speaker 6: everybody that's looking at that. If you went down those
Speaker 6: few little steps there, Uh, there's a fire pit there,
Speaker 6: and I mean there's there's some chairs out there, and uh,
Speaker 6: this is what I'm telling people. Uh, there's a fire pit,
Speaker 6: some chairs out there, And I love to build a
Speaker 6: fire and sit out there at not man, I wouldn't
Speaker 6: sit out there, and I like, I like capping by
Speaker 6: myself and building a fire and sitting out Man, I
Speaker 6: wouldn't sit out there. And if you look straight into
Speaker 6: those woods, I'm gonna go visit Greg here pretty quick.
Speaker 6: And I'd like to just kind of shoot a video
Speaker 6: to show everybody outside so they'll understand everything and uh
Speaker 6: and the stories that go along with them. But if
Speaker 6: you look straight off in there, it kind of drops
Speaker 6: off into a super little shallow hollow, and as it
Speaker 6: goes up to the left behind that connex Uh, it
Speaker 6: just the hollow kind of disappears. It just kind of
Speaker 6: you know, Peter's out there up onto a little uh
Speaker 6: road that goes up to there. When you going straight
Speaker 6: down in that little hall and come up the other side,
Speaker 6: there's also a logging road and that thing if you
Speaker 6: looked up in there, you couldn't tell it was a
Speaker 6: logging road because there's iron straw covering everything. Something can
Speaker 6: move through there so quietly, man, you know, coming coming
Speaker 6: up in there.
Speaker 12: Uh yeah, one of the things, guys.
Speaker 4: Uh, And I ain't knocking the people who go out
Speaker 4: in the woods every week, every month, twice a month, whatever,
Speaker 4: and they get out there and go big wood hunt.
Speaker 4: All that stuff get during counters. But it's totally different,
Speaker 4: totally different when these things are at your house, totally Mark, Greg,
Speaker 4: Me Comebo and many other people here in Alabama have
Speaker 4: these things right up to their house, right up to
Speaker 4: their house. What they're banging, yelling, screaming, hitting your walls
Speaker 4: and just dnding in your house.
Speaker 12: It's just different.
Speaker 10: I was a question real quick.
Speaker 9: I just thought of so all of y'all are all
Speaker 9: having them coming up on your property. Did all of
Speaker 9: this start happening them being on your property before y'all's
Speaker 9: bigfoot excuse me, initial bigfoot experiences, or after I thought
Speaker 9: it was.
Speaker 4: People walking to the yard, banging on my mom's house,
Speaker 4: banging on my r and b that I was staying in,
Speaker 4: hit my brother's trailer. I thought it was people, just
Speaker 4: you know, hunters, mad ed whatever. Yeah, it was people.
Speaker 4: And uh, I'm even with that when my brother's talking
Speaker 4: about you know what he said he's seen out there
Speaker 4: and would you know, I just did not believe that
Speaker 4: these creatures were real.
Speaker 6: And but.
Speaker 4: They are.
Speaker 3: Mark you you told us, you told me a story.
Speaker 3: And I don't remember if it was your house or
Speaker 3: somebody who went to investigate. But there was a little
Speaker 3: trail where something was coming to a water spicket. Was
Speaker 3: that your house or somebody else's? It was right, it
Speaker 3: was right on the house. Okay, so, but but the
Speaker 3: thing is, there's so many people that are dealing with this,
Speaker 3: like y'all are. And and look we we We're on
Speaker 3: a call one night, Gregg's in the man cave. I'm
Speaker 3: sitting in the living room for flat rocks out on
Speaker 3: the back deck, windows inside. I don't remember who I
Speaker 3: was on it, And all of a sudden I hear
Speaker 3: a booger house. It was a legit booger house. And
Speaker 3: I'm looking at Patrick Noble, and I'm looking at watching
Speaker 3: TV and Greg Aint pointing towards TV, and I'm like,
Speaker 3: who's watching, Who's watching a documentary? You've got something playing
Speaker 3: in the background. Not me, not me, not me, I
Speaker 3: mean nobody in flower outside And we heard a Booker
Speaker 3: scream over the phone.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought it was you Rogier playing Europe, playing
Speaker 4: that Talladega National Force.
Speaker 3: That's what it sounded like.
Speaker 12: Exactly.
Speaker 3: Yes, yeap oh.
Speaker 5: We've had We've had numerous numerous us doing our our
Speaker 5: chat at night, which we did probably five nights a week,
Speaker 5: and it's usually like ten thirty or later my time
Speaker 5: and Soperal time, but it's it's usually flat Rock and
Speaker 5: sometimes Roger and then it'll be Wendell and and Milkman
Speaker 5: and Joe Parker and we got Pyro hangs out and
Speaker 5: there was this lot and light is this has got
Speaker 5: where he's coming, Patrick Noble, He's ring dang later, the
Speaker 5: whole bunch. But you know, we'll just be I'll be
Speaker 5: in here in the kitchen. I was in here a
Speaker 5: month or so back, maybe six weeks ago. I had
Speaker 5: my phone propped up on my island and I'm over
Speaker 5: here like trying some eggs. We're talking just like what
Speaker 5: we are right now, and there was one hit my
Speaker 5: porch post out here. Just mam right was like God,
Speaker 5: it's dang. And so long was that? I said, one
Speaker 5: just hits the porch out here, and I just kept
Speaker 5: drying eggs. It's like, but I had one had one
Speaker 5: hit the wall out here, and we were having a chat.
Speaker 5: One hit hit out here. It wasn't thirty seconds. We
Speaker 5: heard Flat Rock's wife saying something and she was pretty excited,
Speaker 5: and he's like what And there was one hit his
Speaker 5: high house thirty seconds from it hit one hit mile.
Speaker 3: And and and you know that that changes the thing
Speaker 3: and we laugh. We're laughing and cutting up about it.
Speaker 3: But when it happens, there's no laughing, you know. We
Speaker 3: Me and Peyton went to visit Greg just on whim
Speaker 3: just a couple of weeks ago, and I call Greg.
Speaker 3: We're on Interstate head that way, as what are you doing?
Speaker 3: He said, Man, I got to go go do a job.
Speaker 3: And I'm like, oh crap, we're on the way down there.
Speaker 3: He said, we just going in. You know how to
Speaker 3: get in, and I'll be there when I get there,
Speaker 3: all right. So we go in and we're sitting there
Speaker 3: and I'm like, let's let's go look around so we
Speaker 3: you know, daylight. We went and did a little search,
Speaker 3: you know, for footprints and even nose prints or handprints
Speaker 3: on the windows and all that. We come back in
Speaker 3: and we get settled down and I'm on my phone
Speaker 3: and Peyton's on his phone, and all of a sudden,
Speaker 3: I hear what sounds like a good I was rock
Speaker 3: hit the metal sighting and I look up to see
Speaker 3: if Peyton is reacting to it, and he was all
Speaker 3: into whatever on his phone, and I'm like, what, you know,
Speaker 3: I ain't gonna say what I said. You don't know
Speaker 3: how I get what was that? And Peyton said he
Speaker 3: looked up and he realized we were at Gregg's. He
Speaker 3: come up and went and uh, you know, we got ready.
Speaker 3: And that's that's nerve wracking. I'm you know, I called
Speaker 3: I did. I called Heathers, Hey, we just had one
Speaker 3: something hit the house. And Greg's not here yet. I'm
Speaker 3: just letting you know. And then I called Greg. He's
Speaker 3: about a mile away or less. And being in that
Speaker 3: box when it wasn't a pine cone, it was hard.
Speaker 3: It something through I don't know how big the rock was,
Speaker 3: but it was a good sized rock. And uh And
Speaker 3: somebody said, did you all go out there and try
Speaker 3: to find the rock man? Now, no, I'm not. You know,
Speaker 3: there's a difference when you're looking for evidence and we
Speaker 3: know something's out there. I mean, if it might have
Speaker 3: been one of Flat Right's crackheads on rock, I still
Speaker 3: wouldn't go out.
Speaker 10: I'd be scared, more scared of them than I would
Speaker 10: a booger.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was.
Speaker 5: I was proud of them both. When I finally got
Speaker 5: here coming the door. I stayed on the phone with
Speaker 5: them pretty much. So I got here. I was about
Speaker 5: two miles up the road. He called me. He's like
Speaker 5: something stayed, something hit the wall. We'll both heard it Castle.
Speaker 5: I'll bear in a second. In time, I got here
Speaker 5: and walked in. Roger had his pistola in his hand,
Speaker 5: and Feyton Payton my gun, my gun. Rack on the
Speaker 5: wall was holding the twelve Games double ball or buck got.
Speaker 3: We look, we're all about, not not hurt, and and
Speaker 3: I don't know if we'd had anything that could have
Speaker 3: but but here here's the conversation, is that it went Peyton.
Speaker 3: If it's a big one and they won't be able
Speaker 3: to they won't be able to get in the door
Speaker 3: unless they tear the wall off. And Griggs had them
Speaker 3: push on the wall like they're testing, you know. So, uh,
Speaker 3: you don't know, but so you got Mark. Uh you know,
Speaker 3: Mark's found tracks, these strange anomalies like in his cornfield
Speaker 3: and these these tracks and then all all of a
Speaker 3: sudden disappear. There's all kinds of theories on that, and
Speaker 3: we start getting into the strangeness of this whole thing.
Speaker 3: And uh, if you talk to certain people that's dealing
Speaker 3: with them, you know, maybe a different type or whatever.
Speaker 3: You know, they'll talk about their forest people and all that.
Speaker 3: But my thing is, and I've told you all this
Speaker 3: a bunch, I don't know if different areas they're a
Speaker 3: little more aggressive or mischievous, you could mistake that for
Speaker 3: each other. And then you talk about the smells and
Speaker 3: all this stuff. And I got to thinking about it,
Speaker 3: and you know, some of this the Pacific Northwest. You'll
Speaker 3: hear people's why I don't, I've never smelled them, But
Speaker 3: then the people in Florida have, and people in Alabama,
Speaker 3: Tennessee in the southeast town. What if it's just a humidity,
Speaker 3: that's all. That's the difference, you know, you.
Speaker 10: Know, but it gets to everybody.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so well, Roger like like where I'm at, I mean,
Speaker 5: people even here where I live, they have no clue.
Speaker 5: Not well, some of them do, because there's a lot
Speaker 5: of people that's having encounters these things. But everybody it's
Speaker 5: so tightly up because they're afraid somebody's gonna make fun
Speaker 5: of them. But I guess what's been maybe a year
Speaker 5: a little over a year ago when I was told
Speaker 5: you all about some of my buddies that worked for
Speaker 5: the county Sheriff's office was calling me and they're like, hey,
Speaker 5: do look we got some crazy call what And they
Speaker 5: start telling me that that there was like an area
Speaker 5: it's about probably twelve thirteen miles from me, and it's
Speaker 5: west that nine one one calls started coming in, and
Speaker 5: one night there was like three nine one one calls
Speaker 5: come in from different houses that were close together. Something
Speaker 5: was beating on the walls, something was throwing stuff up
Speaker 5: on the roof and just raising just raising pure hell
Speaker 5: and scaring the crap out of these people, to the
Speaker 5: point that there was three nine one one calls come
Speaker 5: in Sheriff's office sends deputy out and goes out. Don't
Speaker 5: find nothing, all right. The next night they get another
Speaker 5: nine one one call from one of the same houses,
Speaker 5: and that nine one one call was worse that the
Speaker 5: guy is like, I don't know what this is. Basically
Speaker 5: grabbed a shotgun and went out the door running and
Speaker 5: see something big and covered in black hair on all
Speaker 5: fours and the thing stands up and runs off on
Speaker 5: two legs like a man that way too big to
Speaker 5: be a man. And apparently dyde cut down boom boom
Speaker 5: boom that direction I hit it or no, I don't know,
Speaker 5: But then skip a day and I think it was.
Speaker 5: I don't think they had nothing that day. But the
Speaker 5: next day they had another encounter that the Sheriff's office
Speaker 5: got several nine one one calls over about a three
Speaker 5: or four d stretch to within one little spot about
Speaker 5: a quarter of them all area. But they were all
Speaker 5: freaked out, and it was like what I said, I'll
Speaker 5: tell you what it is. Y'all may not believe me,
Speaker 5: but I'm telling you what it is.
Speaker 10: But yeah, telling you for a reason because they probably
Speaker 10: already knew that you knew what it was. And they
Speaker 10: just didn't want to admit it.
Speaker 3: Well, and then when there was an old lady, they
Speaker 3: hit her house so hard to not pictures off the wall,
Speaker 3: didn't they.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so I've heard. I've heard several times.
Speaker 3: Look they did.
Speaker 5: They did hard enough round here that it'll shape the
Speaker 5: entire cabin. I mean, before Allan passed away, He's sitting
Speaker 5: in the recliner right there, and I sitting in the
Speaker 5: other recliner. We're watching TV. He stands up. He said,
Speaker 5: I'm gonna go get me a drink. Said you want one?
Speaker 5: I said, I'm good. He takes about three steps out here.
Speaker 5: It sounded like a sound like one hundred and twenty
Speaker 5: pound kid on a huppy bicycle standing on the pedals,
Speaker 5: crashed into the wall. It shook the whole cabin. I mean,
Speaker 5: they'd come up and hit the wall. I've had him
Speaker 5: push on the wall. I've had him pushed the wall
Speaker 5: and you could hear the pressure being applied to the
Speaker 5: wall in the corner of the cabin. I wear behind
Speaker 5: me the next room. I could hear the wall studs
Speaker 5: start creaking and popping. You can hear the you could
Speaker 5: hear the wallboards snapping like it was like you had
Speaker 5: a truck push and get to push in the cabin,
Speaker 5: and it was like it would just snap and crack
Speaker 5: and pop, and then you could hear it when it released,
Speaker 5: like everything was settling back. And then I just sat
Speaker 5: right here and kept quiet, and I thought, well, I'm
Speaker 5: gonna see what they do. The thing finally wound up.
Speaker 5: It went all the way around the back of the cabin.
Speaker 5: And this was several minutes later. I don't know what
Speaker 5: it was doing out there, but it went around and
Speaker 5: I heard it come up on the porch. I could
Speaker 5: hear the ports back there coaking and popping. It come
Speaker 5: up the steps. It walked on the back porch, and look, y'all,
Speaker 5: y'all all been on my back porch except Amanda. That
Speaker 5: thing solid. We have fifteen to twenty people out there.
Speaker 5: Don't like our noise, But that thing was walking out there,
Speaker 5: and you could hear the lumber cracking from me in here.
Speaker 5: I had some cast iron skillets i'd bought and they
Speaker 5: were sitting on that table. It was like six or
Speaker 5: seven maybe cast iron skillets, and I bought what it was,
Speaker 5: it was the State outs, and I bought these and
Speaker 5: I was going, you know, clean them up and have
Speaker 5: them I collect cast iron. But they were on that
Speaker 5: big picnic table, that flat rock was sitting out and
Speaker 5: I had a stack of only one still mincing bowls.
Speaker 5: It was like a great old big one, one smaller,
Speaker 5: one smaller, one smaller, one smaller, seven you stept they're
Speaker 5: all stacked together. I couldn't hear it pick them up,
Speaker 5: but it was like i'd hear skillet when it was
Speaker 5: set back down and got bloat on the table. And
Speaker 5: then with a few seconds, you don't know, one blunt.
Speaker 5: It was like it picked up every one of them
Speaker 5: skillets and set them back down. Well then I hear
Speaker 5: the bulls, those thameless balls chain when it thrown. When
Speaker 5: it set them back down, it was like it was
Speaker 5: out there just just looking at stuff, and here in
Speaker 5: a minute it financed sart of walking back across the porch.
Speaker 5: I heard the porch steps creaking and popping. The thing left,
Speaker 5: but it was the same one that pushed on the wall.
Speaker 3: But so Mark, knowing what they go through, and they're
Speaker 3: and they're they're close to your house. Have you ever
Speaker 3: had anything come up to your house or any of
Speaker 3: the neighbors or anybody in the area that you that
Speaker 3: you heard overtook a report.
Speaker 12: Oh yeah, oh yeah. In fact, I live in house.
Speaker 12: And in fact, when I used to work night shift,
Speaker 12: not long after I would leave heading to work, they
Speaker 12: would slap this brick house and it, you know, get
Speaker 12: Rebecca's attention, and you can imagine a brick house being
Speaker 12: slapped compared to wood. You know, she said, it sounds
Speaker 12: like you know, wall fixing, and come in and uh
Speaker 12: but yes, uh, after me and her boss this place
Speaker 12: and moved here. Of course, of course they the last
Speaker 12: two places I live. You know, I've always lived within
Speaker 12: a couple of miles of Creepy Mountain, you know, for
Speaker 12: a little while on the south side. Now I'm kind
Speaker 12: of over here on the east side. So I've always
Speaker 12: been within two to three miles of you know, with
Speaker 12: the Honting Club.
Speaker 4: So uh.
Speaker 12: When I I had one neighbor who lives I don't know,
Speaker 12: half a mile three or fourths a mile away from it, Uh,
Speaker 12: she contacted me one day, but she knew I was
Speaker 12: into big foot and all this, and she went to
Speaker 12: asking me questions and told me she had took a
Speaker 12: pile of musket dimes that she thought maybe had done
Speaker 12: sourd and she wouldn't put them up in the woods
Speaker 12: and put them in a neat pile. She's you know,
Speaker 12: lit squirrels whatever else eat them. She walked back up
Speaker 12: a few days later and they'd all been eating, but
Speaker 12: all the holes were still there. They and they were
Speaker 12: mashed in, just like we would eat them. If y'all
Speaker 12: know what I'm talking about, a lot of people push
Speaker 12: you know. You know so and there was back in
Speaker 12: a neat pile. Well right there next to it was
Speaker 12: about a twelve inch barefooted track, you know. So she
Speaker 12: called me. We talked about that. So I went over there,
Speaker 12: and you know, we found a good trail, uh coming
Speaker 12: up the back or her home. Later on she put
Speaker 12: it up some cameras around her place, and you would
Speaker 12: catch shadows. She never caught something on camera, but she
Speaker 12: would catch the shadows like they would walk up behind
Speaker 12: where the camera was, but their shadow would cast across
Speaker 12: the ground and the camera was still pick it up.
Speaker 12: But the good the one that really caught my attention
Speaker 12: was another lady the opposite the way, about half a mile.
Speaker 12: The lady who lived next door to her knew what
Speaker 12: I was into. She said, you need to talk to
Speaker 12: Mark about what you saw. So I went over one day,
Speaker 12: caught up in her yard and this was all going
Speaker 12: on about the time I got the corn Patch pictures
Speaker 12: that a lot of people have seen all this time frame.
Speaker 12: So I asked the lady to put up to you know,
Speaker 12: introduced myself, went to talking to her and I said, well,
Speaker 12: what did you see? Ma'am said, when I come out
Speaker 12: here to smoke one night about ten o'clock and there's
Speaker 12: a street light that kind of sits on the line
Speaker 12: between her and her neighbor. It's out course towards the
Speaker 12: little gravel road she lives on. She said, I was
Speaker 12: sitting on the steps smoking my little dog use restroom.
Speaker 12: She said, I watched what I thought was a big
Speaker 12: dog come out of the woods cross the road, kind
Speaker 12: of heading toward my neighbor's house. Well, she is animal lover,
Speaker 12: and she thought it may have been h you know,
Speaker 12: somebody's stray dog. So she collers, hey, Poochi, come in, poochy.
Speaker 12: It's kind of funny.
Speaker 3: Yeah, hear, Mark, I got to ask you something is
Speaker 3: sister snoring.
Speaker 5: That?
Speaker 10: I was like, am I hearing something?
Speaker 9: Time started?
Speaker 10: It was low and I was like, okay, just back,
Speaker 10: can get louder and louder.
Speaker 3: Leave him alone, flat Rock, He's good, Mark, she said,
Speaker 3: do right now. I was thinking, yourrington's not on here
Speaker 3: with us.
Speaker 10: He got an excuse, now, yeah, is coming in on
Speaker 10: the audio or something.
Speaker 12: Oh but when she called hey, Poochi, come here, well
Speaker 12: Poochie stands up on two legs, and the way she
Speaker 12: told it, I almost got tickled. But try not to
Speaker 12: get to laughing because I knew she was serious, you know.
Speaker 12: And then it turned around and looked at her, and
Speaker 12: she said when it turned around looked at her. The
Speaker 12: only things she could kept elaborating to me was the face.
Speaker 12: The face. And I said, well, tell me about the face.
Speaker 12: She said, well, it was white looking and looked like
Speaker 12: a skeleton. I said, like a skeleton. She said, yes,
Speaker 12: it looked like a skeleton. Look at me, and she said.
Speaker 12: It turned and walked right back across the road in
Speaker 12: the woods. And I said, you know, I'm sitting here thinking, well,
Speaker 12: why was it walking under a light going toward the
Speaker 12: neighbor's house. Well, about that time, here comes the neighbor over.
Speaker 12: I guess, see me over talking And the neighbor comes
Speaker 12: over and the lady introduces me to the neighbor. And
Speaker 12: the lady goeste you're over here to see about what
Speaker 12: she saw. I said yeah. I said, well, why I'm
Speaker 12: here talking have what have you saw? She said, well,
Speaker 12: we were missing a lot of dog food. She said,
Speaker 12: we kept a chalk on the front porch a dog food.
Speaker 12: And she said, we got two dogs. They got a
Speaker 12: little fenced in chain lit fence there in the front
Speaker 12: yard and they got it fixed where the dogs can
Speaker 12: go up under the front porch to sleep. And she said,
Speaker 12: we noticed we were going through a lot of dog
Speaker 12: food there for a while. And it hit me like
Speaker 12: a ton of rocks what was happening? And because she
Speaker 12: told me her dogs would not bark at night, they
Speaker 12: would get up under the porch and they wouldn't come
Speaker 12: out from under that porch. And I told her, I said, well,
Speaker 12: I think we know what was happening. Here was this
Speaker 12: booger had done found an easy food source up on
Speaker 12: that porch. He done buffalo them dogs. They wouldn't say
Speaker 12: a word. And I said, you need to put your
Speaker 12: dog food back in the house. And so but the
Speaker 12: other lady, the one had actually seen it. She'd been
Speaker 12: hearing stuff hit her trailer at night. She'd smelled stuff,
Speaker 12: and she was contributing, just like flat rock was to
Speaker 12: people piffling around. Stuff moved in her shed.
Speaker 4: Some nights.
Speaker 12: Her dog wouldn't go out, It didn't stop on the doorsteps,
Speaker 12: turn come right back in. And so you know what
Speaker 12: I got to figure in was that thing had been
Speaker 12: coming around a while, and she was thinking it was
Speaker 12: a human fooding around her house, when it was the
Speaker 12: whole time this thing coming over, probably some more of them,
Speaker 12: probably some more just besides it, you know, getting into
Speaker 12: that dog food. And then the neighbor right up the
Speaker 12: road had called me and Rebecca, and we went over
Speaker 12: because she was missing chickens and got up heround. I
Speaker 12: was looking at her coop. Now her husband had made
Speaker 12: a coop. Now he was cartner by trade. And I
Speaker 12: mean these chickens had a castle. So I mean this high,
Speaker 12: well built. I mean, it was a nice chicken house.
Speaker 12: And she said, there's a hole on the back of
Speaker 12: the the chicken house. And she said, we're figuring the
Speaker 12: coon's doing it. So I walked around the backside, well
Speaker 12: up about head high, and I'm six foot six one.
Speaker 12: There's the neatest hole I ever seen, just that round,
Speaker 12: just like that. I'm going I ain't never seen a
Speaker 12: coon make a hole like that. You know, you know,
Speaker 12: you this is gonna be tore out.
Speaker 4: This is just light.
Speaker 12: Something made a hole and it just made it bigger,
Speaker 12: and he got it smooth, and you could see where
Speaker 12: something could reach right in there and pull a chicken. Well,
Speaker 12: I got to looking at the ground where I was standing,
Speaker 12: and the ground was just padded, real strong. I mean,
Speaker 12: you know you could tell something that stood there a lot. Well,
Speaker 12: why I'm looking at that. Rebecca hollers at me. She said, hey,
Speaker 12: come back over here to their little garden. And we
Speaker 12: walked back over and they had a little on about
Speaker 12: a twenty by twenty garden spot. This was getting in
Speaker 12: the fall, so most of their crops were gone right
Speaker 12: there in the edge of their garden spot. It was
Speaker 12: a little old track here, about nine inches long, barefooted,
Speaker 12: you know. And I'm going out, and you know, of course,
Speaker 12: I asked her, I said, you had any grandkids over
Speaker 12: anybody over lately? She said, now, ain't nobody had been
Speaker 12: over here? And I said, I showed her that footprint,
Speaker 12: and I said, I'm gonna tell you now. I said,
Speaker 12: I've seen coons get in the cook chicken coops. They
Speaker 12: don't make him pretty little holes like it. And I said,
Speaker 12: whatever did that was standing on two legs and had
Speaker 12: a hand that made that big hole. And I said,
Speaker 12: that track right there is telling me probably what big
Speaker 12: Getting your chickens is something else, you know, And all
Speaker 12: this is right there in this little yard area.
Speaker 9: You know, Mark, do you remember do you remember was
Speaker 9: the chicken wire or anything that was it cut into
Speaker 9: a perfect sir? Was it like bent in I'm trying
Speaker 9: to picture.
Speaker 12: How to get like whatever kind of ripped it and
Speaker 12: then it kind of just folded it back all around
Speaker 12: in this pretty circle.
Speaker 3: You know, smart enough to know not to leave snags
Speaker 3: for the hand on the way.
Speaker 10: Out, exactly.
Speaker 9: That's what I was envisioning.
Speaker 12: So the other thing would be the roots for the
Speaker 12: chickens were pretty far in there, so if a coon
Speaker 12: got up earned done that, it's gonna have a hard
Speaker 12: time reaching over to get a chicken. It's gonna have
Speaker 12: to go down in the cage then climb up on
Speaker 12: the you know. That's why I don't think that's what
Speaker 12: that was.
Speaker 3: So when you're talking about the street light, and the
Speaker 3: it looked like a skeleton face. I'm thinking of the
Speaker 3: ashy gray people report skin. I wonder what that would
Speaker 3: look like under one of those street lamps. May get
Speaker 3: it may give that illusion of being, you know, standing out.
Speaker 12: Yeah, well, it's like one of the corn Patch pictures
Speaker 12: that wanted us, Like, it's about ten foot tall. When
Speaker 12: you zoom in and really look at his face, his
Speaker 12: face has a gray look, and his cheek bones almost
Speaker 12: a look like a big rib sticking out of him.
Speaker 12: You know, it's kind of like, Yeah, so when you
Speaker 12: go to looking at it and you can see that
Speaker 12: his eyes are kind of sunk back in his head,
Speaker 12: you know. And and I'm wondering if that's the same
Speaker 12: one she saw. You know, the very may have been
Speaker 12: because she she said, when it stood up on two legs,
Speaker 12: she said that thing was huge. You know, she couldn't
Speaker 12: tell me a height. I mean, I asked her, I
Speaker 12: said eight nine ten foot. She said, I don't know,
Speaker 12: she said, when I've seen it stand up and it
Speaker 12: looked at me, she said, I kind of freaked out
Speaker 12: and went in the trailer. You know. So you know,
Speaker 12: so yeah, very possible. You know, it could have been
Speaker 12: gray and then with the street light and it turned
Speaker 12: and looked at her. You know, it may have reflected
Speaker 12: more white looking or something.
Speaker 3: I mean, I just Greg sent me some stuff and
Speaker 3: I don't think he showed this much at all. But
Speaker 3: we've looked, we've looked at that.
Speaker 5: I've not never posted him on nothing, Roger.
Speaker 3: So when when it happened or he sent it us, yeah,
Speaker 3: oh take your time when he sent it to us
Speaker 3: to look at. You know, we try to rule out everything.
Speaker 3: But when you say blacker and black and sometimes it
Speaker 3: looks like a blue sheen and all that. We'll show
Speaker 3: these pictures. And we do have a red circle for
Speaker 3: you or two, but.
Speaker 5: I'm not much on red circles. But I've just done
Speaker 5: that so at highlight what I was gonna tell you,
Speaker 5: if you put them up, I'll walk people through what
Speaker 5: that is. And that's something with men Mark and Mark's son.
Speaker 5: We found the two tents that had been tore, all
Speaker 5: two pieces nice several hundred dollars worth of cam and
Speaker 5: gear abandoned. Right, I'm talking about within four hundred yards
Speaker 5: where I used to hunt, and it was the campsite
Speaker 5: was tore all the pieces and somebody like I said,
Speaker 5: abandon that, but where I had where I started having
Speaker 5: all my encounters. And for a Manna's question, while ago,
Speaker 5: I was dealing with these things in the woods to
Speaker 5: start with for several years, and then I built this place.
Speaker 5: Well I'm only about a mile and a quarter from
Speaker 5: where I did hunt, and these things that already got
Speaker 5: used to me and knew me and you know, recognized me.
Speaker 5: And once I built this cabin here, I think they
Speaker 5: come through and see the cabin going up, and then
Speaker 5: they recognized probably my truck saw me, and they're like, Hey,
Speaker 5: this is a dude that's coming down there in our place.
Speaker 5: We're gonna let him know that we know where he's at.
Speaker 5: And that's kind of the way all this unfolded for me.
Speaker 3: And when we when we do this one uh Bama view,
Speaker 3: I know, I found abandoned tent at the l B L.
Speaker 3: Have you ever found abandoned tents?
Speaker 5: Yeah? A bunch of times.
Speaker 12: Yeah, And and what and Mark.
Speaker 3: Found an abandoned tent in Tayladega National Forest and that
Speaker 3: those people left everything, didn't they IDs?
Speaker 9: And all right, here's here's the tent. And I got
Speaker 9: the other two there as well.
Speaker 3: So y'all. Y'all know everybody did a list into this later,
Speaker 3: people watching. When you buy a camping gear, you spend
Speaker 3: money that what would make people just leave everything. So
Speaker 3: this is what Greg found and we'll talk about the others.
Speaker 3: But tell us what where this was at and what
Speaker 3: y'all found?
Speaker 5: Uh huh oh that look. I carried uh Mark, Mark
Speaker 5: Green right there. I carried him and his son Jonathan
Speaker 5: on the ride in my teep, my infamous deep that
Speaker 5: Roger loves to ride in. Well, yeah, I carried Mark now,
Speaker 5: because you know, I don't show everybody where all this
Speaker 5: stuff started with, you know, what happened to me and
Speaker 5: what I've dealt with all these years. But you know,
Speaker 5: Mark's like a brother, like just like family. And I
Speaker 5: carried him down there, and y'all it's rough. I mean
Speaker 5: it's rough. If you need a four whel drive. We
Speaker 5: went down there. I showed him one of the properties
Speaker 5: at well, I tell him, I said, we're going down
Speaker 5: to the end of the road and it's it's you know,
Speaker 5: a quarter of a mile from where the gate was.
Speaker 5: While hunted on down the work were saying that here
Speaker 5: and this is on the same river where my cabin is.
Speaker 5: It's just downstream about a mill. We went off this
Speaker 5: big hill and there's ruts in it between knee and
Speaker 5: waste deep and you just kind of got to crawl
Speaker 5: through it with a jeep and we go down and
Speaker 5: its elevation is probably a couple hundred feet and you're
Speaker 5: going down a steep cloak what flattens down. We pull
Speaker 5: up and this is this is a spot where when
Speaker 5: I was a teenager, we'd camp there and it you know,
Speaker 5: it's it's private land surrounded by government land, and really
Speaker 5: nobody's supposed to camp there, but somebody had. We pull
Speaker 5: up and it's like all this year that y'all are
Speaker 5: seeing in these pictures. We get out of the jeep
Speaker 5: and we're looking at this and I'm like, you know,
Speaker 5: we're all in agreement. This looks really odd, you know,
Speaker 5: wine in the world with somebody left all this stuff.
Speaker 5: And we get over there and we hadn't been out
Speaker 5: of the truck for just a few minutes, and like
Speaker 5: like you're looking at the creek right here to our right,
Speaker 5: it sounds like less than seventy five cars. It sounded
Speaker 5: like a rotten a big chunk of a rotten tree
Speaker 5: that pushed over broke or something, and this kloom on
Speaker 5: the ground, and you know that kind of kind of
Speaker 5: got made. You know, we're probably not here, just us,
Speaker 5: so we're we're looking around kind of you know, keeping
Speaker 5: eye on everything, and we're looking around. We go to
Speaker 5: digging through this stuff and this was some really nice tents.
Speaker 5: One of the tents had originally undoubtedly had a metal
Speaker 5: like an expandable metal frame. The frame was ripped out
Speaker 5: of the tent and thrown about twenty or thirty feet
Speaker 5: down through the woods, wadded up. There was sleeping back,
Speaker 5: there was sleeping bags, There was all kind of of
Speaker 5: camping supplies in this big folded up water stuff. The
Speaker 5: tents were still staked to the ground, but stuff was
Speaker 5: ripped and torn and we got calculating it up, and
Speaker 5: you know, there's several several hundred dollars worth of stuff.
Speaker 5: And this stuff wasn't just super old now like you'd
Speaker 5: probably been there, i'd say three months or longer. But
Speaker 5: we're standing there and we're looking around, and Mark Jonathan,
Speaker 5: they're walking around looking. I'm standing there pretty close to gee,
Speaker 5: but I take my phone and I just start taking pictures,
Speaker 5: just taking pictures around where we're at. And I was
Speaker 5: showing Misty and Spencer and some of them about you
Speaker 5: know what we found. Well, there wasn't but a week
Speaker 5: or so that Spencer and Misty and Mark Knuble came here,
Speaker 5: stayed like three nights with me. I cared them and
Speaker 5: we showed them what you're looking at here, and I
Speaker 5: took some pictures because I wanted to look and see
Speaker 5: where I took all these pictures. Misty had told me,
Speaker 5: shed look, she said, if you really look at those pictures,
Speaker 5: I'm like, what do you mean, Yeah, I've looked at
Speaker 5: She said, no, no, no, you said, look, bring up
Speaker 5: one picture of time, zoom as far in as you can,
Speaker 5: and like go across, you know, move the picture round
Speaker 5: and look way back out in the woods. I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 5: I ain't never done none of that. She said, well
Speaker 5: you need to take all those pictures and really look.
Speaker 5: There may be some way back in the woods. Well,
Speaker 5: I go to looking in the pictures. But anyway, me
Speaker 5: and Mark, Yeah, if you go to the other picture
Speaker 5: right quick, Roger is the one that's still back on
Speaker 5: up out of that, come on, go the other one
Speaker 5: kind of like.
Speaker 3: This, only go on.
Speaker 5: If there's another one tree. Okay, well it may not
Speaker 5: win through, but anyway, it's I don't think that's the
Speaker 5: exact one, but I may it may not have went through,
Speaker 5: but anyway, one of the pictures kind of like this.
Speaker 5: You're looking way down the river bank, all the way
Speaker 5: down the riverbank, but as far as you see in
Speaker 5: the picture of zoom in and zomn and I noticed
Speaker 5: there's something black. And now you can go back to
Speaker 5: the other one, the one that's kind of the furthest back.
Speaker 5: It's not zoom so much. Well, I noticed this black
Speaker 5: thing back behind a tree and it's just a part
Speaker 5: of it sticking out. And that's one of the ones
Speaker 5: with the red circle. And I've done that so it
Speaker 5: just shows up better like everybody else does, say I,
Speaker 5: and I say that, and I'm like, wait a minute,
Speaker 5: that why is that so black? And look, I took
Speaker 5: this picture when me and Mark, Mark Green and Jonathan
Speaker 5: were standing right there at those tents. That was the
Speaker 5: way in off of a picture, all right. I told Misty,
Speaker 5: I said, look, I don't know what this is, but
Speaker 5: there's something really black and it's got to shine to
Speaker 5: it like like a booger when the light's hitting it,
Speaker 5: because the one I saw when I ever saw it
Speaker 5: right across the road, that's the way it was. It was.
Speaker 5: You could see how black it was where the light
Speaker 5: was hitting it. It made it look that gray sheen
Speaker 5: like it's shiny. And I said, I don't know what
Speaker 5: this is. I said, there's nothing should have been there
Speaker 5: to be that black in the woods. There's nothing. Well,
Speaker 5: Missy and Spiscer and them, like I said, just maybe
Speaker 5: a week later, they come down. We go right back
Speaker 5: to that spot. We're looking at my phone. We line
Speaker 5: up the exact picture and we go to looking and
Speaker 5: that black thing right there is not there. It doesn't exist.
Speaker 5: We had Spencer wabble down there and stand right there
Speaker 5: where it was. We had him standing there. That black
Speaker 5: part of whatever the hell that is wasn't there. So
Speaker 5: but now when we we hung around there for probably
Speaker 5: ten minutes, and I started getting the creepy fields and
Speaker 5: Mark undoubly got him and he said, I there's something,
Speaker 5: And we got hearing something up on the hill. It
Speaker 5: was coming around kind of cutting us off, and we
Speaker 5: both decided pretty quick that yeah, we may or to
Speaker 5: ease on out of there. So we got in the
Speaker 5: jeep and came on back out. But as far as
Speaker 5: the picture of me catching anything, that was sheer accident. Y'all. Look,
Speaker 5: when I've had encounters cameras. Last thing from my mind
Speaker 5: I'm done about.
Speaker 3: The last thing is that down at the water where
Speaker 3: your your cave opening.
Speaker 5: Is Nope, that's that's where okay from out here.
Speaker 12: Yeah, And I have to.
Speaker 4: Say as well, all my all the features like goy,
Speaker 4: these creatures all by accident. Yeah, I don't I seen
Speaker 4: him looking at well, look coming looking for my camera.
Speaker 4: I started moving it every day and they keep coming
Speaker 4: looking at it. And that's the way I called him,
Speaker 4: purely by accident.
Speaker 3: But so you so they learned where you had them
Speaker 3: and you started, yeah, you.
Speaker 4: Know, different place every day they come look for it.
Speaker 4: And I was ready for him when they come look
Speaker 4: for it, and I snapped it.
Speaker 3: I was talking to Spencer, uh that I make this quick,
Speaker 3: and he was telling me a story about a guy
Speaker 3: was having the same issues. They put the cameras out
Speaker 3: in the in the lights that come on motion sensors,
Speaker 3: and he was mowing one day and in fact, his
Speaker 3: I think his wife and one of his children moved
Speaker 3: out for a while, just similar situation the flat rock
Speaker 3: and he was mowing one day and he noticed these
Speaker 3: little wooden almost pointed structures like a little teepee, but
Speaker 3: there was in a line. And then what in the
Speaker 3: world's going on? And so I don't know if it
Speaker 3: was his brother and they were looking at it, he said,
Speaker 3: wait a minute. They waited till night time, and they
Speaker 3: were on the back side of them. And if you
Speaker 3: walked up to those and stopped, you're okay. If you
Speaker 3: step past them, those motion centsors light will come on.
Speaker 3: So yeah, so you take that for you know, what
Speaker 3: it's worth or whatever. But so all right, Bama, I mean,
Speaker 3: I know, you know where the trackway, y'all. Y'all you
Speaker 3: know preserve the trackway, and you have the cast and all,
Speaker 3: and a lot of people have them. But the first
Speaker 3: trip I ever went up there, we went up on
Speaker 3: top of the knob to turn around, and I'm like,
Speaker 3: oh crap, there's a tent. And I'm like, I'm disturbing somebody,
Speaker 3: always real conscious that I don't want to disturb somebody.
Speaker 3: And I got to looking at it and it wasn't
Speaker 3: set up right, and I'm looking at it a little
Speaker 3: bit and I noticed a small I glue red and
Speaker 3: white cooler was way down here. Something had thrown this
Speaker 3: thing down the driveway. And I get to look in
Speaker 3: at this tent and it's basically damaged, you know, and
Speaker 3: there's nobody. I'm peeking. I'm like, hope, nobody, please don't
Speaker 3: let me find the body, so, you know, and I'm looking.
Speaker 3: There's no blood or anything. And we turned round and
Speaker 3: we're heading down and that's when I looked over and
Speaker 3: there's like no water, hardly at all. And I saw
Speaker 3: the tracks disturbances and went out there. I forgot all
Speaker 3: until we got back. I forgot about the tent. But
Speaker 3: that's you know, apparently some of these places that are
Speaker 3: hotspots that people don't know about, just like Talladego one
Speaker 3: Mark found. We'll let him tell about that one. What
Speaker 3: kind of situation have you run up on Obama in
Speaker 3: at they'll.
Speaker 6: Bel what's interesting is we that track that that was
Speaker 6: a read Noble trackway, you know, that was on well,
Speaker 6: let's put this way. We found the trackway on a
Speaker 6: Halloween h It was probably left maybe when I looked
Speaker 6: at it. I estimated after a storm came through, maybe
Speaker 6: a week prior or something of that you know. So
Speaker 6: I've been back there a couple of times on Halloween.
Speaker 6: You know, I think maybe last year I was there
Speaker 6: on Halloween, I had like a camp out and I
Speaker 6: think I had maybe ten twelve people come. And that
Speaker 6: was the first thing that who's your squatch and I
Speaker 6: did was Man, when week it was really nice, I'm
Speaker 6: kind of o c D. He had to drive way
Speaker 6: down to LB and of course I had to drive up. Uh.
Speaker 6: He went and saved my camping spot and paid for
Speaker 6: my camping spot, you know, long before I ever got there.
Speaker 6: But man, the first thing we did was was get
Speaker 6: out there and look and and have never you know,
Speaker 6: found you know, anything since. I know Roger did, uh,
Speaker 6: but uh, but you don't haven't found anything since. Incidentally, uhh.
Speaker 6: I find this odd from from you know, from being
Speaker 6: in the woods and trying to figure out stuff for
Speaker 6: so long. H L b L is maybe the only
Speaker 6: place I've ever heard what I described as a tree break.
Speaker 6: And you know, you know the terminology I'm going to use, uh, Roger. Uh,
Speaker 6: you know, if you're looking the rolodex of your brain,
Speaker 6: there's the sound of a yeah, of a of a
Speaker 6: green limb about two three inches in diameter, you know,
Speaker 6: being broken the way a green limb sounds. And at
Speaker 6: that same camping area only when I'm by myself, though
Speaker 6: now I don't know why, Maybe I just don't hear
Speaker 6: as many things when there's more people around or something.
Speaker 6: But on three occasions I've camped there alone and the
Speaker 6: only reason is because I was having somebody else come.
Speaker 5: And meet me.
Speaker 6: Mark and Ubill came up one time and camp with me.
Speaker 6: And but I've heard tree breaks like a green limb snap.
Speaker 6: All to say that when I finally moved back down
Speaker 6: here to Alabama kill and I love the camp. There
Speaker 6: just ain't really many places down here at camp uh
Speaker 6: So we you know, we wear Bankhead Forest out, which
Speaker 6: is where Gregg's man Cave is, and we've camped at
Speaker 6: the same spot maybe usually when we go, we go
Speaker 6: four or five days at a time, and we've probably
Speaker 6: been to the same spot maybe five six times. One
Speaker 6: year we were there on Thanksgiving and one year we
Speaker 6: were there on Christmas. So of course there was nobody
Speaker 6: hips around because it was cold and nobody's going to
Speaker 6: be there on a holiday. But that's the that's the
Speaker 6: only place where I've heard and going back into the
Speaker 6: rollodex of your brain again, like a tree knock, Like, oh,
Speaker 6: that's somebody took a hard limb and hit a hard
Speaker 6: tree with it. And if you live down here in
Speaker 6: Alabama or in the woods, and you can almost picture
Speaker 6: the type of tree that was hit over a limb.
Speaker 6: But one night it was so and then I'll get
Speaker 6: off of it. But one night it was so loud
Speaker 6: and prominent that we were the only ones camping down there.
Speaker 6: And Kill and I have separate four person tents, you know,
Speaker 6: so they're heated, and we ever toilets in there and whatnot.
Speaker 6: But we put our tents usually very close together, so
Speaker 6: we talk to each other or if she hears something,
Speaker 6: she can say something to me. And our tents are
Speaker 6: real close together. And I think it was only maybe
Speaker 6: ten thirtieth eleven o'clock at night or so right there
Speaker 6: was a creep maybe Oh goodness, I'm saying one hundred
Speaker 6: yards from us. And I'm telling you this because I
Speaker 6: looked at it on Google Earth. You know, I've like
Speaker 6: looked all over this air. I even consulted a buddy
Speaker 6: of mine who has a really good kanyak and channel
Speaker 6: on YouTube, so he knows that area really well. And
Speaker 6: I asked him, I said, what's back over in that area?
Speaker 6: He goes, nothing, There's nothing for miles over there. And
Speaker 6: we're laying there about ten thirty eleven o'clock and there's
Speaker 6: the clearest, loudest it almost sounded like somebody if they'd
Speaker 6: thrown a fastball and somebody popped that thing when the
Speaker 6: Louisville slug her back. I mean it was chram and
Speaker 6: this was on one of those holidays, and it was
Speaker 6: cold out there, and so that sound man traveled through
Speaker 6: that cold air and it was loud enough that killing
Speaker 6: her tent. She goes, you just you hear a voice
Speaker 6: in the dark. She goes, did you hear that? And
Speaker 6: I said, oh, yeah, I heard it, and I can't remember.
Speaker 6: But we went back again. The next time we were
Speaker 6: back and the same thing, and it was, you know,
Speaker 6: a little later in the night, but it was the
Speaker 6: same type of noise from basically, you know, the same area.
Speaker 6: And uh, that's the what I classify as not If
Speaker 6: y'all had heard both of you would have easily been
Speaker 6: able to distinguish, you know, between the two.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 6: I wanted to tell you this, and then I'm gonna
Speaker 6: hop off here in just a minute. Uh. I had
Speaker 6: a camp out a Bankhead, Uh last year, somewhere around.
Speaker 6: It was maybe a few weeks before the Woodwalkers, Uh
Speaker 6: meet and greet. I had a camp out of Bankhead.
Speaker 6: Uh Larry and Debby Porch and and uh Coonbo and
Speaker 6: Greg dropped by, you know, one night, set around with
Speaker 6: us and stuff. And Uh, this is what's really weird.
Speaker 5: I want to tell you this.
Speaker 6: Anybody camps with me, I booby trapped my camp if
Speaker 6: I'm off, if I'm off by myself away from everybody
Speaker 6: when I go to bed, and I booby trap and
Speaker 6: I have like these twenty two caliber you know ram
Speaker 6: set blanks and I can string up you know, fishing
Speaker 6: line and stuff around and man, those things work great,
Speaker 6: I'm telling you. And you know our booby trap stuff. Well,
Speaker 6: when we were at camping at Bankhead, we were in
Speaker 6: a primitive camping area. You know, people kind of spread
Speaker 6: out kills right beside me in her tent, and Rodney
Speaker 6: and Karen Beasley were camping directly behind my head maybe
Speaker 6: about ten yards or so. So there's really people all around.
Speaker 6: So I didn't set up any booby traps. I thought
Speaker 6: people are gonna be up walking around and stuff, and
Speaker 6: so I won't set anything up. But I had that
Speaker 6: really good trail camp that I got a good one
Speaker 6: for my birthday with the black flash where people can't
Speaker 6: see it, you know, and it shoots really good video.
Speaker 6: So I had that thing strapped on a tree and
Speaker 6: or it really could kind of see the whole campground,
Speaker 6: you know, almost all the tents, and had that thing
Speaker 6: strapped on a tree. Of course, I went to bed,
Speaker 6: went to sleep. Next morning, I got up, you know,
Speaker 6: it was out fixing coffee and doing my thing, and
Speaker 6: kell goes. When she got up, she said, did you
Speaker 6: you had those booby trapped things set up last night?
Speaker 6: And I said, no, I didn't, and she goes, are
Speaker 6: you serious? And then Rodney said something about it, and
Speaker 6: she goes, right beside my tent, there was a round
Speaker 6: went off. Oh, a loud round. Now I've got used
Speaker 6: to hear sleeping one of those noise machines like Brown
Speaker 6: Noise or or you know those machines. And uh so
Speaker 6: when we were all camping there, it was so quiet
Speaker 6: that I could hear Rodney and them in their tent
Speaker 6: if they moved around or anything, so I'd put the
Speaker 6: little speaker beside my bed with some you know, white
Speaker 6: noise on it. And I don't know why I wouldn't
Speaker 6: hear something that loud go off. But when she said that,
Speaker 6: Rodney goes, yeah, he goes it was loud.
Speaker 5: It was, he goes.
Speaker 6: I thought that you had, like, uh, you know, set
Speaker 6: one off by accident, trying to set it up, you know,
Speaker 6: at your tent or by the truck or something. That
Speaker 6: was the first weird thing. I never heard it, but everybody,
Speaker 6: everybody on our side of the camp heard that. And
Speaker 6: here's the other thing. And I'll try to get you
Speaker 6: the audio on this, uh, Roger, because we have the
Speaker 6: audio on this.
Speaker 3: UH.
Speaker 6: Where we were camping, there was a wall a mark
Speaker 6: that was seventeen minutes away. We went there so many
Speaker 6: times I can tell you how many minutes to get
Speaker 6: to the wallmart uh. And we had made a run
Speaker 6: because it was really cold at night, so we'd run
Speaker 6: to get some propane or something. And that left Rodney
Speaker 6: and Karen Beasley by themselves at camp. Everybody else had
Speaker 6: gone somewhere. Wendell was camping with us, you know, we
Speaker 6: had several people there. Well, we got back and I
Speaker 6: backed up into my spot and they had the fire
Speaker 6: going really good, because when we pulled back in, I
Speaker 6: could see the fire up the hill and I thought, man,
Speaker 6: it's awesome. They got that, you know, fire stoke up.
Speaker 6: Pulled up their back then, and I'm standing at the
Speaker 6: back of my tailgate and everybody's around the fire, and
Speaker 6: Rodney and Carris started talking about, you know, there was
Speaker 6: the loudest howls right you know, over there on top
Speaker 6: of a ridge. And I can't remember if Greg had
Speaker 6: visited us after this or before this, but we said
Speaker 6: really and they said yeah. They said loud hounds, loud
Speaker 6: and clear. And I said, how far do you think?
Speaker 6: They said, all, I don't know, maybe you know, six
Speaker 6: seven hundred yards or so out there or something. And
Speaker 6: you know, they're kind of talking about it, and they said, uh,
Speaker 6: so we started recording it. You know. Well, as soon
Speaker 6: as he said, well we started to record it, the
Speaker 6: house started up directly. As soon as it started up,
Speaker 6: I'm at the back of my truck, so I stepped
Speaker 6: out to get more of a direct line of sounds,
Speaker 6: what I call it. I stepped out and you could
Speaker 6: tell that thing was directly across on a ridge, wasn't
Speaker 6: anything blocking. And see, they didn't realize the way the
Speaker 6: hollow went and went up on a ridge. They just
Speaker 6: thought it was straight woods out through there. And I said,
Speaker 6: that is on top of the ridge. And we're kind
Speaker 6: of whispering, and then we're being quiet this thing how
Speaker 6: and how, And the first thing that hit my brain
Speaker 6: was I thought, well, that's way too quote unquote big
Speaker 6: to be a coyote. That's the first thing I thought was.
Speaker 6: I thought, oh, no, kyote sounds that low, you know.
Speaker 6: And then I remember kind of looking around at everybody
Speaker 6: while that was going on, because we're talking about two
Speaker 6: or three minutes. Now, think about that, you know that timeline,
Speaker 6: I mean literal in a literal sense, two or three
Speaker 6: minutes and we're looking at each other kind of whispering,
Speaker 6: and we can hear it as it's howling slowly moving
Speaker 6: from our left to our right, you know, along this ridge.
Speaker 6: And I remember even looking at people at one time
Speaker 6: and I said, that has to be a wolf.
Speaker 5: I said that.
Speaker 6: I said, you could tell it wasn't one of our
Speaker 6: typical booger howls. If you you know you've heard booger house,
Speaker 6: you know this really was like a long howling locator
Speaker 6: type thing. And the reason I can get you out
Speaker 6: of the audio is because Rodney and them recorded it.
Speaker 6: But who's your squatch recorded the part that I'm talking about.
Speaker 6: It wasn't two minutes after this stopped. It finally just
Speaker 6: kind of you know, just stopped howling and eased on down.
Speaker 6: And maybe third thirty minutes later, way off in the
Speaker 6: distance the distance, it was going a huge pack of coyotes.
Speaker 6: I mean they went berserk, you know how they all
Speaker 6: just get the hipping and going nuts. And I told him,
Speaker 6: I said, man, there's no way that that was a coyote. Well,
Speaker 6: by this time, Jamie had already sent the audio to
Speaker 6: one of our you know audio guru, you know, taking
Speaker 6: no geek dudes, and and he sent it back and
Speaker 6: this is somebody that can analyze it and go, well,
Speaker 6: you got this and this and this and blah blah blah.
Speaker 6: So that's why there's a such and such precent chance
Speaker 6: that this is a red wolf that you heard. And
Speaker 6: we were like, no, kid, And he goes, yeah, he
Speaker 6: goes the second I put that in there, he goes,
Speaker 6: that's exactly what came up as a red.
Speaker 3: Wool, and those are rare. I've seen I've seen. I
Speaker 3: saw three of them, like in nineteen ninety seven or eight.
Speaker 6: I know LBL has them, and there were.
Speaker 3: Rumors that people had seen them here. And then Peyton
Speaker 3: there was some a wolf howling close to his mom's
Speaker 3: house and he got that on recording. But it's usually
Speaker 3: when when something like that sets off, everything else gets quiet.
Speaker 3: And you know, hearing a red wolf is super super
Speaker 3: rare because there was not that many of them.
Speaker 6: Oh man, and you know when you hear man, I've
Speaker 6: heard some. I mean, all these guys heard and seen
Speaker 6: way more than I am. But but uh, as far
Speaker 6: as vocals, I've heard stuff really close long hounds you
Speaker 6: know that that then ended up getting you know, mixed
Speaker 6: in with kyokes and stuff. But uh, you know people
Speaker 6: that hear those, they always make your skin crawl when
Speaker 6: you hear. When I heard this, the first thing I thought,
Speaker 6: of course, was that's not a kyote, that's why to
Speaker 6: load the kaya. But the second thing was I just thought, gosh,
Speaker 6: how beautiful that sounds. I mean it was like you know,
Speaker 6: like hearing a gray wolf, you know, howling something that big,
Speaker 6: and I just thought, how beautiful. We stood there for
Speaker 6: like I said, it was two or three minutes. Just
Speaker 6: listen to it, just standing standing in one spot, maybe
Speaker 6: move in a few yards, and on and on and on,
Speaker 6: and it was that was a really strange thing.
Speaker 3: Well, and you know, part of this getting out in nature,
Speaker 3: uh and trying to figure these things out, you experienced
Speaker 3: stuff like that, and it's just I don't know, you're
Speaker 3: not going to experience that setting in the in the
Speaker 3: house watching TV, so I can't get out as much.
Speaker 3: We got a really good question here, y'all, and I
Speaker 3: may direct us towards anybody. Well, let me let me
Speaker 3: let me read it for the for the people on
Speaker 3: Spotify tomorrow. Hawk six six eight oh two says, I
Speaker 3: asked this earlier. I don't know if anyone saw it.
Speaker 3: I didn't. I'm sorry. Has anyone had the pets or
Speaker 3: livestock killed or come up missing? I had a year
Speaker 3: old mini donkey get his neck twisted and broken by something.
Speaker 3: There was a ready foot slash dog man in the area.
Speaker 5: Yeah that Well, you know, I don't have any dogs
Speaker 5: that I own here, but look, over the last several years,
Speaker 5: my neighbors would get a dog and I'd kind of
Speaker 5: get a little inkling if there's gonna last long. Because
Speaker 5: if they ever had one that got out here at
Speaker 5: night and got them out here really barking and raising cane,
Speaker 5: they'd come up gone. And these dogs here, they don't
Speaker 5: do much barking. At night. They go back down there
Speaker 5: and go under the house or in a doghouse or something.
Speaker 5: They don't get out plunder much. And at night they'll
Speaker 5: they'll go a little speaking, but they don't do much.
Speaker 5: It's not like normal dogs because I think they figured
Speaker 5: out if they start barking and everything, they probably don't
Speaker 5: make it loan. But now, right up on top of
Speaker 5: the hill, there was a guy had a farm up there,
Speaker 5: and this has been probably fourteen years ago, twelve fourteen
Speaker 5: years ago. A guy that was working for him, he
Speaker 5: asked he got talking to me about, asked me, if
Speaker 5: you know if I've seen weird stuff. I said, yeah,
Speaker 5: I say weird stuff all the time. What are you
Speaker 5: talking about? Because I told him, you know, I knew
Speaker 5: about boogers, and I'd ask him, like, on that farm,
Speaker 5: it's like a sixty five acre farm, and it was
Speaker 5: right where you go into the road that goes down
Speaker 5: to where I had so many encounters hunting, and he said, man,
Speaker 5: I had something strange. He said, you ever seen anything
Speaker 5: that's really weird. I said, yeah, I see all kind
Speaker 5: of crap. Because they don't these boogers, he said, well,
Speaker 5: I don't know. Said I had something we couldn't figure out.
Speaker 5: I said, what do you mean. He said, Well, said
Speaker 5: they had a full grown cow that was going to
Speaker 5: have a cat. And he said that they had you know,
Speaker 5: they had put up feed to get the cows up
Speaker 5: from the lower end of the fields of the pastors
Speaker 5: in the evening. And he said that they'd went out
Speaker 5: there and said all the cows came up, and there
Speaker 5: was several cows, you know, probably twenty something. I guess,
Speaker 5: I said. The mama cow didn't show. He said they
Speaker 5: got down there looking forward, looking for weak go all
Speaker 5: out from there, rolls whatever. He said. They finally found her.
Speaker 5: Said she was in the edge of the woods down
Speaker 5: on the bottom end of this property. And he said
Speaker 5: that the calf was gone, that she had had the calf.
Speaker 5: The calf was not there. The calf was gone. They
Speaker 5: never did find it. But he said that where a
Speaker 5: tree it had been cut years ago or whatever, and
Speaker 5: it came up and it wasn't just a single tree.
Speaker 5: It came up multi trees, you know, it came up
Speaker 5: like big ports from the ground. He said that this
Speaker 5: full grown cow or the trees was forked like this.
Speaker 5: That cow was like it had jumped up and come
Speaker 5: down in the fork of those trees. And he said,
Speaker 5: we can't figure it hacked up there like that, And
Speaker 5: it wasn't like way off the ground, but it was
Speaker 5: enough that the cow could not get off of it,
Speaker 5: you know, it had it held up. And he said
Speaker 5: that the calf was not there. It's like after birth
Speaker 5: stuff was gone. But it was like she had got
Speaker 5: wedged and the had been ripped out of this cow.
Speaker 5: So they He's like, man, I didn't never see anything
Speaker 5: like that. So yeah, that's but now some of the deer,
Speaker 5: the deer that Dad had stole, I mean he shot
Speaker 5: it with Iepard. Ralph laid dead in the field for
Speaker 5: over an hour and then it was gone. When it
Speaker 5: got dark, we went over there to find it. It
Speaker 5: was gone. When I came back a couple of days later.
Speaker 5: The carcass had been thrown out in the field from
Speaker 5: the woodline. And that thing's nick look like you had
Speaker 5: took it and spun it and like wrinkled it up,
Speaker 5: and it was crazy. I mean, look, I don't know
Speaker 5: what kind of power, because I know what it is
Speaker 5: to like take the head off of the deer, to
Speaker 5: you know, to say the neck. That thing's fine, was
Speaker 5: just snapped around and twisted wrong. Up.
Speaker 3: Well, I'm going to get to mark and flat rock,
Speaker 3: but real quick, you know, we got called locally here
Speaker 3: just north end of this next county, Lincoln County, and uh,
Speaker 3: what started? There was some stuff happened where they were.
Speaker 3: They were followed out. It screamed, and you remember I
Speaker 3: told you all about the guy that fell on the
Speaker 3: ground covered his ears and the other guy started to
Speaker 3: projectile vomiting immediately. And then but what had happened? Reason
Speaker 3: they called us? They had a cow. They couldn't figure
Speaker 3: out why what killed it? The tail was pulled almost
Speaker 3: loose towards the back, towards the head, the back, the
Speaker 3: spine was broken, and something had taken a chunk of
Speaker 3: this jawbone. Not that it wasn't bites, that something had
Speaker 3: pulled that bone out along with meat and that. And
Speaker 3: of course they waited and it wasn't there when we
Speaker 3: got there. But the way he explained it, I'm just
Speaker 3: I made a few phone calls, you know, and we
Speaker 3: found tracks that day, we found a bone yard. We
Speaker 3: found all kinds of stuff. So anyway, I've heard of
Speaker 3: this stuff. But I believe Mark, are you Are you
Speaker 3: the one that told us about the I may be
Speaker 3: wrong the chickens, Ben's don't flat.
Speaker 6: Was that you?
Speaker 4: Now?
Speaker 12: Maybe not?
Speaker 3: Okay, somebody told us about that. Have you have you
Speaker 3: had anything missing or any of your neighbors had anything.
Speaker 12: We've had a few chickens and rabbits go missing in
Speaker 12: the past. I can't really say what got them. I
Speaker 12: know we've found a few rabbits deceased in their cages
Speaker 12: and the doors would be open, and it's like the
Speaker 12: rabbits back was broke, and now rabbit can break its
Speaker 12: own back. They're so strong. If they get away from you,
Speaker 12: they can break their own back.
Speaker 5: Ah.
Speaker 12: Now, I have a friend I work with, uh that
Speaker 12: doesn't live far from where we all camped at, And
Speaker 12: the time they're gonna have so forest. They got out
Speaker 12: of the cattle beddingess after being in it for years,
Speaker 12: because one year this hasn't been that long ago. They
Speaker 12: know they had nine pregnant heifers, and when all cav
Speaker 12: in time came, seven of the caves. Cows had the
Speaker 12: caves because they got smaller, but they could not find
Speaker 12: the caves, and they decided to just get out of
Speaker 12: the cow business and just cut hate on their farm.
Speaker 12: So he's had tons of bogger activity on his property
Speaker 12: for years, finding tracks, hearing them, his brother seeing them,
Speaker 12: and he feels like they knew it was cav in
Speaker 12: time and they were sitting there waiting, and so they
Speaker 12: could not never find He said, you wasn't cowedies.
Speaker 4: You'll find evidence of cows or any other type of
Speaker 4: predator this in our part of Alabama. Find signs they
Speaker 4: didn't find.
Speaker 3: So you can pretty much tell, like with chickens, kind
Speaker 3: of what might have got them by the what's left
Speaker 3: behind or what's you know, yeah, I know what you're
Speaker 3: exactly what.
Speaker 12: Were you or anything? Uh, you'll find the feathers.
Speaker 3: You know, right, you know what is it that just
Speaker 3: eats the crawl out of them? There was something was
Speaker 3: getting iris.
Speaker 12: Just eat your breast out, yeah yeah.
Speaker 3: And leave the rest of it. And we were had
Speaker 3: we had you know back in the day where I
Speaker 3: saw my first one, first bigfoot. Somebody asked me one time,
Speaker 3: you know, do you ever have any chickens going missing?
Speaker 3: I'm like, well, yeah, all the time, and there's no
Speaker 3: feathers no, because we had we had chickens that were
Speaker 3: in pins, but we also had ones to just free
Speaker 3: range and they would they would roost in the trees
Speaker 3: along that little lane there, and my daddy would come
Speaker 3: in every now and then he'd like, hey, where's my
Speaker 3: so and so? Full of that, and I'm like, I
Speaker 3: don't know. There would be no feathers, nothing. And years later,
Speaker 3: you know, was it that? I don't know, but it
Speaker 3: could have been a possibility. We're talking about easy food
Speaker 3: and a free meal, right flat rock. You ever heard
Speaker 3: anything oh yeah around there?
Speaker 4: Yeah outside? Not talking about my brother's dog, yeah, because
Speaker 4: you'll know he got went missing never could find again.
Speaker 4: But you know, I also got that audio of that
Speaker 4: canine being slammed up against that tree get killed. But
Speaker 4: the biggest one was an adult mule about three miles
Speaker 4: from here. He was that pastor who used to come
Speaker 4: over here and research with me, and uh, his uncle
Speaker 4: or his cousin wanted too. He had an adult mule
Speaker 4: and h Uh. One day he walked out there to
Speaker 4: the field dead in the door nail. He called fast
Speaker 4: to come over there so they could bury it past.
Speaker 4: You went over that next morning and this is a
Speaker 4: three to five hundred pound mule. Now they got out there,
Speaker 4: this mule is gone, totally gone. One was that, no
Speaker 4: drag marks, no nothing, It was just gone. So something
Speaker 4: killed it. Came back.
Speaker 12: That night picked it up.
Speaker 6: Shure.
Speaker 5: It was.
Speaker 3: Yeah. When my daddy say, toadd it plumb off?
Speaker 11: Yeahed it plumb off.
Speaker 3: That reminds me of a story from the early nineties.
Speaker 3: I talked to a guy from East Tennessee. I was
Speaker 3: working with him actually, and he said that in East
Speaker 3: Tennessee they had a property had a sinkhole.
Speaker 5: It was.
Speaker 3: It was a big sink hold with slope sides, and
Speaker 3: you know, they'd have something happened to a cow or
Speaker 3: something like that. They would drag it back there and
Speaker 3: roll it off in there, and they started noticing like
Speaker 3: they would be missing. And then he continued to tell
Speaker 3: me about seeing eyeshine really tall. You know, he was
Speaker 3: alluding to Bigfoot back then. I mean, he he told
Speaker 3: me some stories about some of his friends having something
Speaker 3: scaring out of the woods and whatever. But uh, in
Speaker 3: some of these stories I forgot about until you know,
Speaker 3: a couple of years ago. But here's what I want.
Speaker 3: I want to do. I want flat Rock for the
Speaker 3: people who didn't see it, uh, to show that video
Speaker 3: he caught of that thing walking in front of that light.
Speaker 3: And then Mark, I want I want, if you want to,
Speaker 3: I'd like to get you to talk about finding that
Speaker 3: abandoned tent in Talladega National Forest. After that. That sound cool,
Speaker 3: so flat flat Rock, you have it, and let me
Speaker 3: see I think, let me all right here we go,
Speaker 3: all right, explain to us what's going on here?
Speaker 4: All right, just watch that work. It looks like a
Speaker 4: plus light. You'll actually see one walk right through that
Speaker 4: right there.
Speaker 11: Now you look a little lower.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna try to back it up. You'll look a
Speaker 4: look down by his feet. You'll see a small one there.
Speaker 4: You'll see the eye shine of it right there, looking
Speaker 4: shine down the bottom. Yeah, there's actually two of them
Speaker 4: right there. But that thing that's a twenty foot gap
Speaker 4: right there, and that thing made it across that twenty
Speaker 4: foot gap and three and a half steps and greg
Speaker 4: those through the woods. It starts walking towards my window
Speaker 4: right here beside me. You'll see the eye shine. He'll
Speaker 4: look right hell, start looking right at the camera, and
Speaker 4: then he'd turn and go down, uh to a little
Speaker 4: spring down here, and that's where we actually caught its
Speaker 4: footprints down there. That caught both of us footprints down there.
Speaker 3: Greg, does that eye shine look familiar? Yes, sir, you
Speaker 3: remember that night uh Flat Rock was filming or he's
Speaker 3: out talking on our little zoom call thing. Yep, you
Speaker 3: see it walk past it there and he said there's
Speaker 3: one right there and turned his phone around. Yeah, they
Speaker 3: caught eye shine and Kenny Shivers was quick enough on
Speaker 3: the trigger to screen record on for his phone. And
Speaker 3: it's the same color eye shine as that.
Speaker 12: Yep.
Speaker 3: And it was peeking around a tree in front of
Speaker 3: close to your truck and I running it back and forth.
Speaker 3: I could swear I saw something go from one tree
Speaker 3: to another, but it's really hard to make out.
Speaker 4: What I believe it was actually doing. He was actually
Speaker 4: watching me why some other ones were over selling all
Speaker 4: the pairs off the tree. And it was just one
Speaker 4: year to this month, one year to this day, Uh,
Speaker 4: that that happened.
Speaker 3: Let's run it one more time, and let's can you
Speaker 3: see if you can stop it when it's blocking the lot?
Speaker 5: Could you could you estimate how big, how tall that
Speaker 5: would have been to cover that light up?
Speaker 4: That is about eight to nine foot But he did
Speaker 4: center right there. I mean it's just so far back.
Speaker 4: I mean you can see if you'll focus on his hips,
Speaker 4: you can see how big his damn hips are right there.
Speaker 12: Yeah, hips is huge, you see.
Speaker 4: Let me get back.
Speaker 10: Over.
Speaker 4: He leaned over walking you know, he's leaning leaning forward.
Speaker 11: Yeah, I see the hire on him. Yeah, that's on
Speaker 11: his back.
Speaker 3: That's wild.
Speaker 4: But that's what, uh, that's what we were seeing, uh
Speaker 4: before we knew they were real. That's what we went
Speaker 4: chasing after that night on that July fourth night. That's
Speaker 4: the same Zack scenario where uh Bob actually shopped bullet
Speaker 4: up in the air and uh they come out that
Speaker 4: night and uh raised all kinds of hell right there
Speaker 4: and right there behind my mom's trailer. But yeah, that's uh,
Speaker 4: that was two of them walking across.
Speaker 12: Right now.
Speaker 3: You can almost make out another smaller one the head
Speaker 3: is what he was talking about.
Speaker 4: That small wall fours Yep.
Speaker 3: That's either an arm sticking out and then you got
Speaker 3: the I don't know, it's hard to tell.
Speaker 5: Man, it'd be awesome if CAKE could do something with
Speaker 5: that footage, yes.
Speaker 4: Sir, yes, sir, yes sir, that shore would I mean,
Speaker 4: it's just I don't know how. I don't know how
Speaker 4: to do stuff like that, but yeah, that would be
Speaker 4: great if I could get somebody to pull it out.
Speaker 4: And what would you mean when they was up on uh,
Speaker 4: on that porch stealing the dog food? Yeah, if I
Speaker 4: could get somebody to brighten that up me. It's a
Speaker 4: full body shot of him right there in front of
Speaker 4: that window, while the other ones are stealing the dog food. Yeah,
Speaker 4: you can see him bend all the way over, get
Speaker 4: his hands full, come back up and walk off. They
Speaker 4: somehow get over a six foot fence without making a
Speaker 4: bit of noise.
Speaker 5: Wow.
Speaker 3: Wow, that's cool. I remember the first time I saw that, like,
Speaker 3: oh crap, what were you what were you filming with?
Speaker 3: Was that a security camera?
Speaker 4: No, just a regular Panasonic camera right here in this
Speaker 4: window filming out this wonder right here.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good comment. Have you ever took a
Speaker 3: picture towards that way during the day to kind of
Speaker 3: I mean, well, you know what, you know, what's over there.
Speaker 4: But yeah, I like, hold on a second, just assume
Speaker 4: if you just put that up there by itself, Roger, yuh,
Speaker 4: let me move us out of the way here, all right,
Speaker 4: just put this up right here by itself. Yeah, my
Speaker 4: uh my avatar right here. It's just a picture of
Speaker 4: them right there, looking toward the looking toward the camera
Speaker 4: as mama and a baby. Yeah, she's holding up a baby,
Speaker 4: just sitting there watching the camera. I never seen it
Speaker 4: with my own eyes, but I was able to catch
Speaker 4: it on camera.
Speaker 3: So you're that picture there in the middle of your
Speaker 3: Let me let me see hold on a second, let
Speaker 3: me see if I can hold on second.
Speaker 4: Yeah, right there, you said, the mama and a baby
Speaker 4: right there, just sneaking around.
Speaker 3: She'll looked like eyebrows and a big nose.
Speaker 4: Yep.
Speaker 12: And you made a baby bottom right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you see the baby right there in front of it,
Speaker 4: right there at them leave.
Speaker 12: Look at that face. It's white looking, yep, almost it
Speaker 12: was like a skeleton.
Speaker 3: Ye ye, exactly what I was thinking. And look y'all,
Speaker 3: I I used flat rock knows this. I used to
Speaker 3: see stuff. And I'm like, well I can't, I can't
Speaker 3: make it out. So I'm not gonna say, but after
Speaker 3: that thing happened with Gary Spikes and I ate some
Speaker 3: crow because I saw him take the picture. I saw
Speaker 3: the thing move when he took the picture. And and
Speaker 3: now we've got this picture. It's a black blob and
Speaker 3: I know it's it's a shoulder and a head. But
Speaker 3: when you show it to people, they're like, I don't
Speaker 3: know them. I understand it. I've been there. I've been
Speaker 3: there a hundred times. But all right, so thank you
Speaker 3: flat Rock.
Speaker 5: Wow.
Speaker 3: So Mark, getting back to uh, you know the strange
Speaker 3: these strange things of finding the tents, I just like,
Speaker 3: uh black he said in chat. You know, just a
Speaker 3: few things that will make people leave, something like that.
Speaker 3: But the one y'all found there was like literally everything.
Speaker 3: There's personal items there. Uh tell people what you what
Speaker 3: you found? And I didn't look Michael X if you're
Speaker 3: still in there. The first time I pulled up there,
Speaker 3: I said where you can't where you at or whatever?
Speaker 3: And he and he said, right down there where they
Speaker 3: found out. Mark found that abandoned tent. I said, wait
Speaker 3: to hold up, Why nobody tells me this stuff before
Speaker 3: I show up? But yeah, go ahead, And I'm not
Speaker 3: I'm kind of one of nervous feelas you know, but
Speaker 3: uh yeah, tell tell people about that. That's that's that's
Speaker 3: really interesting. And and the lead into it is years
Speaker 3: ago Marc has investigated this. There was a hunter that
Speaker 3: was basically torn apart a little bit by an unknown animal.
Speaker 3: You know, Mark checked reports and stuff and then so
Speaker 3: everybody kind of knows it's you know, something's going on there, right.
Speaker 12: Well, we were having was actually having a big foot
Speaker 12: out in weekend down there. And he gets back in
Speaker 12: twenty three or twenty two somewhere right in that neighborhood.
Speaker 12: But uh, we were having an outing and uh, a
Speaker 12: bunch of us got down there on Friday afternoon. Uh
Speaker 12: we noticed a tent down in the very bottom. Uh
Speaker 12: that was set up. You know, we didn't see a car,
Speaker 12: but you could see all the stuff. And we just
Speaker 12: figured wherever it was was you know, going to town
Speaker 12: or something of that nature. And we didn't really think
Speaker 12: nothing about it. We we got set up and all
Speaker 12: sitting around and he got about dark and you know,
Speaker 12: we've done been there through four hours. You know, these
Speaker 12: people hadn't come back. Got dark, they hadn't come back,
Speaker 12: and I mean we stayed up pretty late that night
Speaker 12: they still hadn't come back. Well next morning, people are
Speaker 12: really talking about it. You know, we get up all
Speaker 12: we're standing around and you know, like, you know, what's
Speaker 12: going on here. One of the guys in the bunch
Speaker 12: at the time was in his in law enforcement, and
Speaker 12: he said, well, let's walk down there and see what's
Speaker 12: going on. And we go down there and closer we
Speaker 12: get you know, just tell something ain't right about the place.
Speaker 12: You know, Cooter sitting out there at the camping stove,
Speaker 12: water bags, cheers. We get on up closer, we look
Speaker 12: at the tent and you can tell that the zipper
Speaker 12: has been ripped out of the tent. You can kind
Speaker 12: of see in there. Of course, we was all nervous
Speaker 12: as a body laying up in there. You know, that's
Speaker 12: what we thought. You know. Well, he finally said, well,
Speaker 12: I'm gonna go eaves up and look on in the tent.
Speaker 12: We need to know what's going on. So he goes
Speaker 12: up and he kind of opens it, and I said,
Speaker 12: we watch him enter in and he comes back out
Speaker 12: and he's toting you know, papers with him, and it's
Speaker 12: this lady's identification her where she went. So uh, you know,
Speaker 12: got put on food stamps. I mean just a bunch
Speaker 12: of papers. Then this is when he really got weird.
Speaker 12: He's one of his kids clothes in there. Her clothes
Speaker 12: are in there, makeup still in there, sleeping bags, the
Speaker 12: whole nine yards. And we're all like really puzzled. Then
Speaker 12: and I happened to walk over to the cooler and
Speaker 12: I opened up the cooler. Well, it's still full of food. Now,
Speaker 12: of course food has done spoiled water. The ice had
Speaker 12: done melted. You could tell, you could smell it, so
Speaker 12: it'd been there for a few days. He decides he's
Speaker 12: gonna carry this information to the game wardens, because we're
Speaker 12: not far from a game warden equipment station. And he
Speaker 12: goes and turns it in. Well, we figure we're gonna
Speaker 12: see the game wardens or the county law show up
Speaker 12: pretty soon. Nobody never shows up. We're sitting here scratching
Speaker 12: our heads. I'm going ahead Sunday. Everybody starts packing up,
Speaker 12: leaving his tent still there. And I went back and
Speaker 12: forth for a month before that tent and all that
Speaker 12: stuff finally disappeared. Don't know who go I don't know
Speaker 12: if the law come out of a for service or
Speaker 12: the county or the game ward cleaned it up. I
Speaker 12: went in checked for missing person, for specially a woman
Speaker 12: with kids. I could not find nothing on the internet
Speaker 12: in that area about anybody being missing. There was no
Speaker 12: vehicle there. It was just strange. I mean, all their belongings.
Speaker 12: Some of this stuff was brand new, Like the camping
Speaker 12: store was brand new, the cheers were pretty new. It's
Speaker 12: almost the same scenario what me and Greg and my
Speaker 12: son found that day up at Greggs. I mean, it's
Speaker 12: like these people either jumped in their vehicle, took off
Speaker 12: and it come back, or what else happened. I mean,
Speaker 12: we don't know, and that ain't first hint that has
Speaker 12: been found. Their abandoned This past last year, when Chris,
Speaker 12: Ryan Hard and Adam and all of them came down
Speaker 12: and paid the visits all of us. I carried them
Speaker 12: down there to that campground and we noticed the big
Speaker 12: tent going in the people were there. Then I had
Speaker 12: stuff strolled everywhere, canopies up, and in that weekend we
Speaker 12: had some of our people go camp out and then
Speaker 12: another group coming there to camp out and they found
Speaker 12: the tent, destroyed, food masks. I mean, uh, Stacey talked
Speaker 12: about it. I mean tent pole bent and all kind
Speaker 12: of fashion, just like what Greg was talking about. So
Speaker 12: something happened between the time that us, that me and
Speaker 12: Chris and them were there till that Saturday and Sunday.
Speaker 12: Then people abandoned camp too and left a lot of stuff.
Speaker 3: And did Wendle take a picture of that and posted it?
Speaker 3: The metal frame was It wasn't like, uh, somebody bumped
Speaker 3: into and fell into it. It was it was bent up,
Speaker 3: it was destroyed.
Speaker 12: It was destroyed. And yeah, uh, I think Stacey and him.
Speaker 12: Don't quote me on this. Maybe somebody else talked to
Speaker 12: the game warden or I said something the game warding
Speaker 12: about it. The game ward said, yeah, we find them
Speaker 12: all the time down here. They said, it's all the
Speaker 12: time to fly camp out, and they just leave all
Speaker 12: of a sudden, leave everything here. You know, we don't
Speaker 12: make sense.
Speaker 3: Well, look, here's the difference between Bama and Greg and
Speaker 3: everybody here flat rocking You when you're around people who
Speaker 3: know that this weird stuff out there, things exist, and
Speaker 3: you hear a scream that shakes your enters.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 3: Now, I've been a part of it where you look
Speaker 3: around at each other said that was booger, that was it. Yeah,
Speaker 3: if somebody don't know, they don't know, and it's their
Speaker 3: first time and they hear that, that could send them
Speaker 3: out if they see one and hear that. I mean,
Speaker 3: you think about that, somebody, Oh, we're going to go camping.
Speaker 3: We're leaving the suburbs and never been camping before. But
Speaker 3: I saw this video. It was cool. You danger, danger
Speaker 3: and extreme fear cause you don't care about your stuff,
Speaker 3: you know, and we know that. We all know that.
Speaker 3: So in that particular place you're talking about, I do
Speaker 3: not like it. I don't feel right there. I don't
Speaker 3: you know. Greg has seen the orbs. I have seen
Speaker 3: the orbs. People with us have seen the orbs of
Speaker 3: different colors. Flat Rock has seen them flashing like cameras
Speaker 3: in the daytime all around them. Something weird is going
Speaker 3: on there, and I don't know what it is. And
Speaker 3: I've I've seen enough and heard enough that I think
Speaker 3: I'm good. I don't know, you know, y'all can go
Speaker 3: live and I'll watch your show. I'm not. I just
Speaker 3: something Mark just tells me don't go back, and and
Speaker 3: I hate that, I mean, I hate, I hate you know,
Speaker 3: if y'all have a get together. It ain't called the
Speaker 3: mad at you know. I just I just we slept
Speaker 3: in the truck for what two nights, and I would
Speaker 3: I would still nervous, uh being where we were at.
Speaker 3: But my goodness, y'all, so we we running. Amanda she
Speaker 3: had she she's in another time zone, has to get
Speaker 3: up early. Who popped up the ord video let you
Speaker 3: flat rock? Yeah?
Speaker 4: I just thw that or video up. Yeah, y'all talking
Speaker 4: about it. So I throwed it up.
Speaker 3: And is this the place we're talking about?
Speaker 4: This was right here at my house.
Speaker 3: And does it just fade out?
Speaker 4: Yeah, they just come up and fade out. We was
Speaker 4: we actually called a thermal of a bigfoot that night.
Speaker 4: Uh it was uh it snowed uh earlier and the
Speaker 4: snow was melting away, and I had a crew come
Speaker 4: over here, and uh we seen some flashing uh above
Speaker 4: the tree line right there where the creature was. Creature
Speaker 4: wasn't there no more, but them things popped up.
Speaker 3: And and for people you know it's just tuning in
Speaker 3: or hadn't watched our show or any of y'all talked before. Uh,
Speaker 3: there's several of us had our mind changed you know,
Speaker 3: even uh, even Bama was there the night that uh
Speaker 3: they had something weird to l bel with the sparks
Speaker 3: coming off of it or the dripping and when you
Speaker 3: try to that's almost like it flashed. Yeah, Old Boo
Speaker 3: is sawing some logs.
Speaker 5: Sometimes I'm muting back and forth.
Speaker 3: Were good, man, You're good for people listening on Spotify.
Speaker 3: I know tomorrow that's that's a Flat Rocks dog, Boo.
Speaker 3: He's a good old dog. He deserves his nap, so
Speaker 3: we're not gonna bug him. Well, you know, I don't
Speaker 3: even know where to go because I know we could
Speaker 3: talk for a long time and kind of need to
Speaker 3: wrap it up a little bit. But you know, everybody
Speaker 3: here going from what you thought these things were. What
Speaker 3: it's like. You focus on these areas and if you
Speaker 3: go out in the woods long enough at night, you're
Speaker 3: gonna see some weird stuff. You can't explain. Whether it's
Speaker 3: natural or you know, supernatural or whatever. Who knows. But
Speaker 3: you know, Greg Peyton and I were there one night.
Speaker 3: Greg's never seen anything at his man cave and Peyton
Speaker 3: locks onto something and it's what seven or eight times
Speaker 3: in three hours, and we finally saw it. What he
Speaker 3: was looking at yeah, and it just looked like somebody
Speaker 3: you one hundred and fifty foot off the river level
Speaker 3: with us. Was kind of like a strike fire and
Speaker 3: it was a yellowish well, it's ambush, y'all. It's some
Speaker 3: one of my one of my antique glasses was about
Speaker 3: my age.
Speaker 11: But it was kind of that color, you know.
Speaker 5: It reminded me of a kerosene laonner, like a lamp
Speaker 5: caroseene lamp flame. It's about that color yellow, but it was.
Speaker 5: I was creepy, y'all of it. The reason I don't
Speaker 5: say stuff like that because I mines ain't got no
Speaker 5: business outside that night looking for it becomes I'm knock
Speaker 5: on the down mall.
Speaker 3: I said, Greg, you ever seen anything like that before?
Speaker 3: He said, not here, He said, I don't. He said,
Speaker 3: I don't come out here on the back porch tonight
Speaker 3: and just hang out. I'm like, well, I understand that. Well,
Speaker 3: oh my god, y'all, thank y'all so much. I know
Speaker 3: it's kind of tough to do. I think y'all did great,
Speaker 3: and you know, I appreciate I appreciate y'all's friendship more
Speaker 3: than anything.
Speaker 4: Y'all know that.
Speaker 3: And I feel like, you know, these these groups of
Speaker 3: people do a great job and they get all the attention,
Speaker 3: but there there's I just wanted to show people that
Speaker 3: there are people, there are other groups that have experiences,
Speaker 3: have encounters, catch audio and all that stuff and preserve,
Speaker 3: you know, evidence. It's just you know, Greg, he'll tell
Speaker 3: you he's not a researcher. Uh, he doesn't have to be.
Speaker 3: These people sittingroun here, you know, you're just kind of
Speaker 3: hanging out with him. And I just thank y'all. Anybody Mark,
Speaker 3: tell everybody where they can find you. And Becca on YouTube.
Speaker 12: Or City Creek Bottom Farmstead Life and we do a
Speaker 12: live every Friday nights going okay, and she's doing some
Speaker 12: video for right now. I hadn't really done any A
Speaker 12: couple of little things I've done. I've done on the
Speaker 12: fire side chat on Facebook. But I've got to get
Speaker 12: back to doing some femin and it's getting to that
Speaker 12: time of year. Ah to get back up on Creepy Mountain.
Speaker 3: Yeah start you know so well. I keep saying this,
Speaker 3: but I want to come down there with you sometime
Speaker 3: and we'll we'll work that out. I want to see
Speaker 3: the place at least once and look when it's when
Speaker 3: it's one hundred degrees and feels like a hundred and
Speaker 3: you know fifty. I mean I don't want to be
Speaker 3: out there either, especially especially like here with snakes and
Speaker 3: all the other critters. I wait till it gets cool
Speaker 3: enough we don't have to worry about them.
Speaker 5: Roger that one comment there that that uh super Windler
Speaker 5: hero he's put up there. Yes, let's saw a shameless
Speaker 5: plow for Cornwallace our event down there. It'll be in
Speaker 5: October the third, I think it is. It's in La Laurel, Alabama.
Speaker 5: It's uh Cornwallace eighteen twenty eight, and we're going have
Speaker 5: a pretty good lineup. I think even though I'm one
Speaker 5: of them, we're gonna have some other good people there. Uh,
Speaker 5: Flight Rock gonna be there, Mark Green's gonna be there,
Speaker 5: Mae Coonbo, Jessica Jones, and uh maybe another or so.
Speaker 5: But look, y'all can make it, make it, Ah should
Speaker 5: be pretty interesting.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I'm I'm gonna come heck with out of
Speaker 3: the audience. Now, I'm kidding. I wouldn't do y'all like that.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 3: Greg can be found on with Misty and Spencer on
Speaker 3: wood Walkers with a Z uh, and I'm gonna I'm
Speaker 3: gonna finish this up. But you can go watch Night
Speaker 3: Outs with a Z thirteen thirteen. We kind of get
Speaker 3: on there and turn loose sometimes just talk about life.
Speaker 3: Vala can be found on Sawdust Beast. I think it's
Speaker 3: two tea Sawdust Beast and y'all for the new people
Speaker 3: write some of this down because there have been a
Speaker 3: ton of excellent shows in the past where people have
Speaker 3: gotten a little older, things changed and they don't do
Speaker 3: shows anymore. There's some excellent shows that from a few
Speaker 3: years ago. Uh, you could you can binge watch for
Speaker 3: weeks on some of this stuff. Bama's interview to a
Speaker 3: bunch of people with you know on that channel, Mark
Speaker 3: and Becca's show if you have any interest in learning
Speaker 3: what natural herbs, natural remedies, foods, uh, how to find
Speaker 3: this stuff?
Speaker 5: Uh?
Speaker 3: And and Bookers too. I mean, if something happens, Mark
Speaker 3: tells it he's had, you can go back and watch
Speaker 3: those He's had some pretty wild stuff happened himself. He
Speaker 3: and all of them had talked on this show. But
Speaker 3: you can go back and and watch these things and
Speaker 3: leave a comment, even though the show may be seven
Speaker 3: years old. Five years old, leave a comment that might
Speaker 3: help somebody else find it, you know, but we we
Speaker 3: all support each other. It's uh and it's all about
Speaker 3: getting truths out there, learning truth and and maybe, like
Speaker 3: Greg said, if if what us. I've been thanking so
Speaker 3: many times for taking that first step from people around
Speaker 3: here because they can't talk about it, and they've thanked
Speaker 3: me for telling what happened to me because it made
Speaker 3: what happened to them makes sense. And you know, when
Speaker 3: I think about giving this up sometimes I've had something
Speaker 3: happen a while by hack get scared the mess out
Speaker 3: of me. I'll tell that later. I'm not ready to
Speaker 3: tell it. I called Koombo, I called Doug. I checked,
Speaker 3: and I told you Doug said, almost quit and he
Speaker 3: talked me through it. And you know this this stuff
Speaker 3: still affects us too, but we this is you know,
Speaker 3: it's kind of therapy for me and Greg and everybody involved.
Speaker 3: And I really appreciate y'all coming. And I'm I'm not
Speaker 3: gonna have a banger of a show every time, because
Speaker 3: you know, I'm not a professional, but I try to
Speaker 3: get people where we can learn something and share with everybody.
Speaker 3: And I love seeing everybody here. I'm long wind and
Speaker 3: did I'm going to stop now anybody else has anything
Speaker 3: to say?
Speaker 5: Man, I don't know. I just enjoyed being back on here.
Speaker 5: You know. I like to talk to folks. And look,
Speaker 5: y'all here, here's the thing. If you've had an encounter
Speaker 5: and you're struggling with it, reach out some of us.
Speaker 5: I mean, we're not really that hard to find. Like
Speaker 5: Roger said, you can go back and find us on
Speaker 5: on the channels that we're on. Reach out to us,
Speaker 5: talk to us. Look, I don't I'm not trying to
Speaker 5: get you to come on the podcast. I just look,
Speaker 5: if you've got questions, I may have some answers. And
Speaker 5: if I don't have the answers, I probably know somebody
Speaker 5: that does. I mean, people don't understand how bad this is.
Speaker 5: To deal with it. If you're trying to do it
Speaker 5: by yourself. Oh, it's tough. I mean it's real tough.
Speaker 5: I've been there, and these other guys has been in
Speaker 5: your shoes, and it's it's it's rough dealing with it,
Speaker 5: you know, and it really it really affects you. There's
Speaker 5: no doubt. And that's the reason, you know, I've dedicated
Speaker 5: a big portion of my life to helping other people
Speaker 5: with law enforcement, rescue squad and fire department. You know,
Speaker 5: I've been doing that for eighteen to twenty years, and
Speaker 5: I realized one day that I had a niche that
Speaker 5: I could feel that a lot of people couldn't, because
Speaker 5: you know, I've been living around and dealing with these
Speaker 5: things since two thousand, so I'm twenty six years deep
Speaker 5: in dealing with these things. And I realized there was
Speaker 5: people out there kind of in the place I was
Speaker 5: when I found the guys that I found, which was
Speaker 5: Bill White, and he introduced me to Combo and Troy
Speaker 5: Allen and Cheryl Corn, Tasle and some of them, and
Speaker 5: then through them, I got to meet all these guys
Speaker 5: right here on the screen. It's absolutely like a bunch
Speaker 5: of brothers that you know, we all kind of adopted
Speaker 5: each other, and you know, I know that who I
Speaker 5: can trust, and it's it's been unreal It changed my life,
Speaker 5: and really, I mean I look at it, it's a
Speaker 5: way for me to pay it, pay it forward or
Speaker 5: to pay it back as far as you know, being
Speaker 5: able to talk to somebody and reassure them that that
Speaker 5: they're not crazy, that you know, that you've come talk
Speaker 5: with us and we're the last people on the planet.
Speaker 5: It's gonna make fun of you, you know, but it is.
Speaker 5: I mean, don't don't keep it bottled up, because I'm
Speaker 5: gonna tell you I kept it bottled up for several
Speaker 5: several years, and it was about to eat me a life,
Speaker 5: and I had let it out and it was It
Speaker 5: was absolutely amazing. The difference to be able to talk
Speaker 5: to somebody and get more answers, and and just just
Speaker 5: to be able to feel something in bringing it up,
Speaker 5: and you know, and and what and what this group
Speaker 5: has turned into is absolutely amazing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, And heck, I don't I ain't ever heard
Speaker 3: many men I hold flat Rock a couple weeks ago
Speaker 3: and told him. He's like, but you know, getting back
Speaker 3: to what Greg said just now, Just in the past
Speaker 3: week and a half, my mom sent me a screenshot
Speaker 3: from a lady that's from this county and she all
Speaker 3: she put was, I saw something weird in this area
Speaker 3: and I'm not going to influence anybody's answers. Has any
Speaker 3: of y'all seen anything weird? And so everybody was like, oh,
Speaker 3: I'm following, I want to know too, whatever, And my
Speaker 3: Mama contactor messenger and said, hey, my son does this.
Speaker 3: He had he has a show. As matter of fact,
Speaker 3: it was just a few miles from our north in
Speaker 3: Hotspot so and and Kevin and my buddy that saw
Speaker 3: one in the early eighties with his brother and several reports,
Speaker 3: you know, in the area where the jeep almost hit
Speaker 3: the guy hit the big foot. I went to school
Speaker 3: with that guy all my life and that was an
Speaker 3: nine when that happened. So, you know, just just the
Speaker 3: fact that I contacted her, answered a few questions and
Speaker 3: she said, oh, so it's for real. Basically, she was
Speaker 3: coming up the road about nine o'clock at night, saw
Speaker 3: something on the side of the road. It stepped out
Speaker 3: in front of her. She said it was about nine
Speaker 3: foot tall, covered in black hair. And she said he
Speaker 3: turned and looked at me, and I was stopped, locked
Speaker 3: my doors, and she said, you know, listen to this.
Speaker 3: I looked down to grab my phone to get a
Speaker 3: picture because I knew nobody would believe me. And when
Speaker 3: I looked back up, he was gone. That's how fast
Speaker 3: it happened, y'all.
Speaker 4: I mean, that is how fast it happens.
Speaker 3: So anyway, well, brothers, thank you, very much. I appreciate
Speaker 3: y'all and everybody. Y'all have a great weekend. And I
Speaker 3: don't know how I'm gonna beat this show. I don't.
Speaker 3: I hate to be the person that comes on here
Speaker 3: after this.
Speaker 5: All I gotta song is big love everybody. I'm gonna
Speaker 5: talk to y'all sun.
Speaker 3: Yeah, have a good night, and I appreciate it.
Speaker 5: Y'all.
Speaker 3: Have a good night, y'all.
Speaker 14: Down in the pines, where the water runs black, where
Speaker 14: the mall sangs low and the night leans.
Speaker 7: Back the stores. Much about a shadow, tall, big feet
Speaker 7: moving where the moon lad fall. Some say it be
Speaker 7: some said ghosts in the trees. Some say it trouble
Speaker 7: blowing in with the breeze.
Speaker 14: But around here, man, we know the car on know
Speaker 14: we just called him friends the squatching howller.
Speaker 3: So lie that f let the cat tell.
Speaker 5: Sack in the nine birth Time copper Heads.
Speaker 8: Weady here, y'all.
Speaker 5: The fall, it ain't no and it ain't no dog.
Speaker 7: When the creek girl's cold and the shadows get taller.
Speaker 3: Yeah, your cousin, ain't the squatting all the well, lets
Speaker 3: just walk getting a brave man fiddle.
Speaker 7: But I mind your staff and the squatching, How buddy
Speaker 7: tell me the stories about the thing. He's sauce to
Speaker 7: ten foot high with a timber, y'all red eyes burning
Speaker 7: like a summer's coat.
Speaker 3: Let the track big another for your sober The old folks.
Speaker 7: Laugh, saying, don't you fear crit has been living here
Speaker 7: for hundreds of years.
Speaker 3: Treat them with respect.
Speaker 7: When the moon gets smaller, and they'll let you live
Speaker 7: in squatch and holler sold that fire.
Speaker 5: Let the swamp drum roll.
Speaker 14: You can hear that beats right down in your soul.
Speaker 7: If you hear those drum from the river, call that
Speaker 7: ain't no boat frout barking that lord little swamp runner
Speaker 7: still and the crickers get salt to y'all.
Speaker 2: Lie alone, and it spotting hot the weather bray by
Speaker 2: ties and the fools off fother can't watching on that
Speaker 2: spotting holler.
Speaker 3: Some say guards it old pine ridge.
Speaker 14: Some say he walks from bridge to bridge warm. Thanks
Speaker 14: show when the night comes down something.
Speaker 7: Big still cars.
Speaker 3: It's grown so bank that fog.
Speaker 7: Let the night get deep at the willows whisper while
Speaker 7: the cuts up creech.
Speaker 14: If you catch us glimpse through the midnight, holler, just
Speaker 14: now your head, don't scream and.
Speaker 3: Holler the fuzzle while on string, and the legends get.
Speaker 2: Taller, how where it runs in Squatching Holly, we ain't scared,
Speaker 2: but we show stayed cautious down in the Squatching Holly
Speaker 2: fing about the man strip