WEBVTT 1 00:00:11.240 --> 00:00:28.879 At a book. 2 00:01:27.480 --> 00:01:28.959 If you'd like to be able to listen to the 3 00:01:29.000 --> 00:01:31.959 show without ads and have full access to bonus content, 4 00:01:32.359 --> 00:01:35.480 that's an option. To find out how, please go to 5 00:01:35.599 --> 00:01:42.560 Dogmanencounters dot com Forward Slash Podcast. Tonight's guest wishes to 6 00:01:42.599 --> 00:01:45.640 remain anonymous. With that in mind, I'm just gonna call 7 00:01:45.719 --> 00:01:48.359 him Kevin. Kevin, welcome to the show. 8 00:01:49.239 --> 00:01:50.319 Thank you. It's good to be here. 9 00:01:50.879 --> 00:01:53.959 Well, it's great having you. Kevin. Please give us a 10 00:01:53.959 --> 00:01:55.359 brief bio in yourself. 11 00:01:58.040 --> 00:02:04.000 Born in sixty nine in Oregon, and I was raised 12 00:02:04.000 --> 00:02:06.120 by a single mother. Had a sister a year and 13 00:02:06.159 --> 00:02:09.039 a half younger than I was. Growing up in Oregon. 14 00:02:10.639 --> 00:02:15.240 I was a good student. I played basketball varsity basketball 15 00:02:15.479 --> 00:02:21.199 one year of college. I enjoyed steel a fishing throughout 16 00:02:21.400 --> 00:02:25.960 the Cascades, the Oregon coast, along the mount hood so been. 17 00:02:26.199 --> 00:02:30.199 I'd grown up around the mountains the forest all my life. 18 00:02:31.159 --> 00:02:35.680 Hiked and camped throughout all those ages. I was sent 19 00:02:35.719 --> 00:02:38.479 out into the Air Force. Joined the Air Force as 20 00:02:38.520 --> 00:02:42.639 an officer at twenty two, out of school. Commissioned, sent 21 00:02:42.719 --> 00:02:48.400 to Dayton, Ohio, and we traveled the world. Went seven 22 00:02:48.479 --> 00:02:52.599 years in Asia, seven years in Europe, Italy, Germany, Japan, 23 00:02:52.719 --> 00:02:56.879 South Korea, and after that all finished, we had kids 24 00:02:56.879 --> 00:02:59.960 in Germany, came to Idaho and that's where my store 25 00:03:00.199 --> 00:03:00.759 it takes place. 26 00:03:01.800 --> 00:03:04.280 Wow, you want to talk about a world traveler. You 27 00:03:04.360 --> 00:03:05.039 got around. 28 00:03:07.159 --> 00:03:08.159 Yeah. 29 00:03:07.639 --> 00:03:10.400 We served twenty six years in the Air Force, my 30 00:03:10.400 --> 00:03:13.639 wife and I also an officer, and fourteen years of 31 00:03:13.719 --> 00:03:19.680 those were overseas, and we've seen the Pyramids, We've seen Scandinavia, 32 00:03:20.520 --> 00:03:23.199 all over Europe, went to Berlin, went to Prague, went 33 00:03:23.240 --> 00:03:24.240 to London, Paris. 34 00:03:25.280 --> 00:03:28.159 It's just been a great way to live life. You'd 35 00:03:28.159 --> 00:03:30.639 be young, be paid, get to travel. 36 00:03:31.520 --> 00:03:34.120 Yeah, I'd say it was what a life you two 37 00:03:34.199 --> 00:03:36.560 have lived. And of course thanks to both of you 38 00:03:36.680 --> 00:03:40.319 for serving our country. I really appreciate it. We were 39 00:03:40.360 --> 00:03:44.159 proud to do it. Well, that's awfully impressive. It really is. 40 00:03:45.120 --> 00:03:47.439 Growing up in Oregon the way you did and spending 41 00:03:47.479 --> 00:03:49.240 all the time in the woods doing the things that 42 00:03:49.319 --> 00:03:51.719 you did. What were your thoughts growing up on the 43 00:03:51.719 --> 00:03:54.080 existence of cryptids like sasquatch? 44 00:03:55.439 --> 00:04:00.439 Quite frankly, I never knew about bigfoot in sasque and 45 00:04:00.479 --> 00:04:03.759 looking back, I wish I would have had knowledge and 46 00:04:03.840 --> 00:04:05.759 I would have gone to some of the areas that 47 00:04:06.120 --> 00:04:09.639 now doing you know, Hindsight's twenty twenty, doing research all 48 00:04:09.680 --> 00:04:13.840 over Oregon and Washington, seeing all the sightings in Mount 49 00:04:13.840 --> 00:04:20.000 Saint Helen's through the Cascades. I wish, I wish I 50 00:04:20.040 --> 00:04:25.240 was more inclined to go out and search deeper. But 51 00:04:26.000 --> 00:04:29.199 I felt like I got some places camping for the 52 00:04:29.240 --> 00:04:33.439 long weekends into some rough areas not knowing about it. 53 00:04:33.480 --> 00:04:35.480 But I would have thought I would have seen or 54 00:04:35.519 --> 00:04:38.879 smelled or or seen something. I have a few camping 55 00:04:38.879 --> 00:04:41.519 occasions where we had things visit us in the middle 56 00:04:41.519 --> 00:04:46.240 of the night. First girlfriend, what was that we hear 57 00:04:46.240 --> 00:04:50.920 footsteps outside the tent, and in Oregon we don't have. 58 00:04:52.079 --> 00:04:54.160 I never saw a black bear in all my days, 59 00:04:54.639 --> 00:04:58.639 hundreds of days of fishing and deer, of course, but 60 00:04:59.759 --> 00:05:03.040 no kryptids whatsoever until I got to Idaho. 61 00:05:04.160 --> 00:05:07.959 That's really surprising. Growing up in Oregon the way you did. 62 00:05:08.000 --> 00:05:10.000 I would have figured that you had to have heard 63 00:05:10.000 --> 00:05:13.399 about sasquatch. But what's funny is you might not have 64 00:05:13.480 --> 00:05:15.879 known about them back then, but they sure know about you. 65 00:05:15.959 --> 00:05:18.000 I mean, when you think about all the time you 66 00:05:18.079 --> 00:05:20.000 spent in the woods and all the things you did 67 00:05:20.040 --> 00:05:22.759 out there. I showed her to think about how many 68 00:05:22.759 --> 00:05:25.079 times they are watching you and you had no idea. 69 00:05:26.319 --> 00:05:30.920 No, that's a true statement looking at this encounters. My 70 00:05:31.120 --> 00:05:35.839 sister owns an airbnb off of a route twenty six 71 00:05:35.959 --> 00:05:41.199 going up to Mount Hood Government Camp Rhododendrum, and I 72 00:05:41.279 --> 00:05:45.079 tell her that thirty five minutes from where she goes 73 00:05:45.120 --> 00:05:48.399 to clean her cabin has been a sighting, and she goes, 74 00:05:48.439 --> 00:05:53.519 what she didn't know about either, But it really caused 75 00:05:53.519 --> 00:05:53.720 you to. 76 00:05:55.439 --> 00:05:56.600 Sasquatch Bigfoot. 77 00:05:56.600 --> 00:05:59.800 I've never had any accounter, but looking into the sightings 78 00:05:59.839 --> 00:06:04.959 to there's thousands of them every year, just really really 79 00:06:04.959 --> 00:06:09.759 boggles your mind. And in fact, I've only recently maybe 80 00:06:09.800 --> 00:06:12.759 the last five or six years now ever since I've 81 00:06:13.000 --> 00:06:15.360 seen these and looked it up. That was twenty fourteen, 82 00:06:15.439 --> 00:06:18.120 so that was twelve years ago I found out about 83 00:06:18.160 --> 00:06:22.000 dogmen and how frequently they are cited as well, but 84 00:06:22.240 --> 00:06:23.759 less so than bigfoot. 85 00:06:24.639 --> 00:06:28.040 Yeah, you found about dogmen the hard way, you really did. 86 00:06:28.759 --> 00:06:31.000 And it does boggle the mind to think that people 87 00:06:31.040 --> 00:06:33.639 who live right there in a hotspot like that like Oregon, 88 00:06:34.240 --> 00:06:37.720 how there's any possible way they couldn't know about sasquatch. 89 00:06:37.800 --> 00:06:40.680 But it happens there are a lot of people in Oregon, 90 00:06:40.720 --> 00:06:44.759 a lot of people in Washington State, northern California, they 91 00:06:44.800 --> 00:06:48.120 still have no clue. But we're probably talking about people 92 00:06:48.120 --> 00:06:51.560 who have been watched by sasquatch countless times, but like 93 00:06:51.680 --> 00:06:55.519 you just didn't know. That's just how it goes sometimes, and. 94 00:06:55.639 --> 00:06:57.680 I think the government has that intention. 95 00:06:57.839 --> 00:07:01.839 Ignorance is bliss so because we don't have fear or 96 00:07:01.920 --> 00:07:04.040 able to go out and see these areas. 97 00:07:04.040 --> 00:07:04.920 But as you. 98 00:07:04.959 --> 00:07:09.079 Drive down the northwest I five and you think about 99 00:07:09.120 --> 00:07:14.839 the mountains like Mount Rainier that are unsettled, why not, Well, 100 00:07:15.160 --> 00:07:17.160 according to the sightings of. 101 00:07:17.399 --> 00:07:21.480 UFOs, bigfoot cryptids. 102 00:07:22.519 --> 00:07:24.720 I guess I understand why all over our mount Saint 103 00:07:24.720 --> 00:07:28.560 hell is Mount Rainier, nobody lived there for maybe a 104 00:07:28.560 --> 00:07:29.079 good reason. 105 00:07:30.199 --> 00:07:32.920 Yeah, it just might be a good reason there. I 106 00:07:32.959 --> 00:07:35.759 remember having a conversation with this guy and naysayer who 107 00:07:35.839 --> 00:07:39.199 said that it was impossible for Sasquatch to be in existence, 108 00:07:39.279 --> 00:07:43.319 and as an example, I used Oregon and Washington State, 109 00:07:43.439 --> 00:07:46.439 talking about all the places in those two states where 110 00:07:46.759 --> 00:07:49.000 people just don't go. And he had the nerve to 111 00:07:49.040 --> 00:07:53.079 try to tell me that even in Washington State and Oregon, 112 00:07:53.360 --> 00:07:56.480 people cover all parts of the state, all the time, 113 00:07:56.600 --> 00:07:59.240 but he was just showing his ignorance by saying that, 114 00:07:59.240 --> 00:08:00.519 because that's crazy. 115 00:08:01.560 --> 00:08:05.639 Yeah, like totem poles all over Alaska, Washington, Oregon. The 116 00:08:05.639 --> 00:08:08.120 Indians that were once there build totem poles and I 117 00:08:08.199 --> 00:08:11.160 look like there's there's a bigfoot on that pole a 118 00:08:11.319 --> 00:08:14.720 pine and you always think, oh, they're just imaginary creatures, 119 00:08:14.759 --> 00:08:17.360 but perhaps not all. 120 00:08:17.240 --> 00:08:19.920 They knew about them. They definitely did, and that's why 121 00:08:19.920 --> 00:08:24.160 the totems. Before you had your encounters, would you describe 122 00:08:24.199 --> 00:08:27.480 yourself as being more in the forward or reserved side 123 00:08:27.600 --> 00:08:29.040 personality wise. 124 00:08:30.920 --> 00:08:35.200 I'm definitely personable and willing to share stories, willing to 125 00:08:35.240 --> 00:08:38.399 listen to stories, so forward, I would say that describes me. 126 00:08:39.440 --> 00:08:42.200 Yeah, seems like you that way. If that's the case, 127 00:08:42.639 --> 00:08:44.360 did your encounters have an effect on. 128 00:08:44.320 --> 00:08:48.120 That, I'd say yes because every time I bring up 129 00:08:48.159 --> 00:08:52.159 the story with friends, they laugh and they go, Okay, 130 00:08:52.200 --> 00:08:55.000 sure because they were raised in Oregon like I was, 131 00:08:55.279 --> 00:08:57.679 and uh never had a clue. I mean, the Internet 132 00:08:57.720 --> 00:08:59.840 has really opened things up what the last twenty twenty 133 00:08:59.840 --> 00:09:03.799 five five years to seeing others and then be becoming 134 00:09:03.840 --> 00:09:07.679 parts of groups, which I've not done. But as I 135 00:09:07.759 --> 00:09:12.600 listed my sighting on the cryptids across the USA. 136 00:09:12.600 --> 00:09:13.639 I forgot the name of it. 137 00:09:13.919 --> 00:09:17.679 I put it in the website and noticed there was 138 00:09:17.720 --> 00:09:20.000 never There was not another sighting where I had listed 139 00:09:20.039 --> 00:09:25.200 of them my two, which is unbelievable. But that's I 140 00:09:25.200 --> 00:09:28.240 mean around an air force base, for example, where they 141 00:09:28.320 --> 00:09:31.639 fly fighter jets and cargo jets over the desert, the 142 00:09:31.720 --> 00:09:32.399 high desert. 143 00:09:33.120 --> 00:09:36.679 Not many people living back there other than cities. See. 144 00:09:36.679 --> 00:09:39.120 That's one of the funny things about cryptids, like dogmen 145 00:09:39.200 --> 00:09:42.559 and sasquatch. You find them in all sorts of places 146 00:09:42.600 --> 00:09:44.919 you would never think they would be. They just seem 147 00:09:44.960 --> 00:09:46.799 to go where they want to go, and they hang 148 00:09:46.799 --> 00:09:47.960 out where they want to hang out. 149 00:09:48.679 --> 00:09:49.120 Mm hmm. 150 00:09:50.080 --> 00:09:52.000 If you've had a dog mean encounter that you need 151 00:09:52.039 --> 00:09:53.759 help dealing with, or if you'd like to be a 152 00:09:53.799 --> 00:09:57.559 guest on the show, please go to Dogmanencounters dot com 153 00:09:57.600 --> 00:10:00.679 and submit report. If you've had a big foot sighting, 154 00:10:00.720 --> 00:10:02.120 we'll like to be a guest on one of my 155 00:10:02.159 --> 00:10:08.519 two big foot podcasts. Please go to my Bigfootsighting dot com. 156 00:10:08.679 --> 00:10:11.320 All right, Kevin, please tell us about your encounters. Now, 157 00:10:11.440 --> 00:10:13.519 give us every last detail that comes to mind. 158 00:10:15.080 --> 00:10:19.480 It was twenty fourteen somewhere in the in the wintertime, 159 00:10:19.519 --> 00:10:22.080 the end of the winter, maybe January February. I had 160 00:10:22.080 --> 00:10:24.799 a weekend off and we just had our two babies, 161 00:10:24.840 --> 00:10:27.879 so my wife could babysit, and I said, hey, honey, 162 00:10:27.919 --> 00:10:31.480 I heard about a lake called CJ. Striker Lake just 163 00:10:32.399 --> 00:10:35.440 five or six miles east of our base. We're at 164 00:10:35.440 --> 00:10:40.000 Mountain Home Air Force Base, just outside of Mountain Home, Idaho, 165 00:10:40.080 --> 00:10:45.519 fifty miles east of Boise Bois, I know, and it's 166 00:10:45.559 --> 00:10:49.799 pretty desolate, high desert with chaparral thirty five hundred feet 167 00:10:49.840 --> 00:10:55.080 over sea level, nothing but brown during the summer months, 168 00:10:55.159 --> 00:10:57.279 and then it gets green with rain. But I think 169 00:10:57.320 --> 00:11:01.759 it rains like kind of like CALIFORNI fifteen inches a 170 00:11:01.840 --> 00:11:06.000 year or something, so not much wetness out there. So 171 00:11:06.600 --> 00:11:09.879 I decided to drive. We had four by four Montero 172 00:11:11.440 --> 00:11:14.720 with brand new tires. So I saw the road. We 173 00:11:14.799 --> 00:11:18.519 lived right on the base on the base fencing, a 174 00:11:18.720 --> 00:11:22.440 ten foot high barbed wire fence, and there was a 175 00:11:22.559 --> 00:11:24.440 road that crossed on the outside of it looked like 176 00:11:24.519 --> 00:11:28.919 it would go right to this lake that I found 177 00:11:28.960 --> 00:11:33.080 on GPS. So I went outside the base gate, turned right, 178 00:11:33.159 --> 00:11:36.840 followed the road. I saw my house exiting I said, 179 00:11:36.840 --> 00:11:40.759 this will be fun. Nobody around, not a single car, 180 00:11:42.120 --> 00:11:46.039 and it was the morning. So I drove one mile 181 00:11:46.120 --> 00:11:49.600 two miles, a lot of potholes, bumps in this eight 182 00:11:49.639 --> 00:11:53.480 foot one road pathway wasn't paved. It was just all 183 00:11:53.519 --> 00:11:59.879 dirt through sagebrush. And about three miles, about halfway to 184 00:12:00.360 --> 00:12:04.960 the lake on the right side where they do farm, 185 00:12:05.639 --> 00:12:10.639 I saw this black, tall creature maybe five hundred yards away. 186 00:12:10.759 --> 00:12:14.360 Really really a way out there, but the ground is 187 00:12:14.360 --> 00:12:15.240 all brown. 188 00:12:16.519 --> 00:12:20.679 And there's like circles where they grow things with the sprinklers, 189 00:12:20.759 --> 00:12:24.600 you know, they go around in circles. And there was 190 00:12:24.600 --> 00:12:27.759 this black creature and it looked like he had a 191 00:12:27.799 --> 00:12:31.240 dog head or a wolf head with a snout, big 192 00:12:31.279 --> 00:12:33.879 long hair. I didn't have binoculars. It was only the 193 00:12:33.960 --> 00:12:38.759 naked eye. And it's really strange. So I stopped the car, 194 00:12:39.440 --> 00:12:42.360 looked out the window and saw him move a very 195 00:12:42.360 --> 00:12:45.440 little bit. He couldn't see me, but I could see 196 00:12:45.440 --> 00:12:49.639 this entity, whatever it was. And as you know, there's 197 00:12:50.200 --> 00:12:54.679 there's not many things out there. There's coyotes. There's those 198 00:12:56.320 --> 00:12:59.559 they're not deer or are they called they they're the 199 00:12:59.600 --> 00:13:01.919 fastest land animal in the country. 200 00:13:03.000 --> 00:13:03.519 Prong horn. 201 00:13:04.120 --> 00:13:07.039 Yeah, that may be the prong horn. Yeah, but nothing 202 00:13:07.120 --> 00:13:12.480 black and nothing seven or eight foot tall. So I 203 00:13:12.519 --> 00:13:14.039 was just like, I don't know what that is, but 204 00:13:14.879 --> 00:13:17.000 that was weird. So I kept driving to the lake, 205 00:13:17.080 --> 00:13:20.320 had a good day of fishing, caught catfish, caught my 206 00:13:20.320 --> 00:13:26.320 biggest twenty five pound catfish, almost three feet long. Never 207 00:13:26.320 --> 00:13:31.559 saw another fisherman there, unvisited area, had a great time. 208 00:13:31.600 --> 00:13:34.440 I went down there two or three times more over 209 00:13:34.440 --> 00:13:36.799 the course of our we were there for four years, 210 00:13:37.240 --> 00:13:40.519 stationed there for four years, and this is maybe a 211 00:13:40.600 --> 00:13:41.080 year two. 212 00:13:43.600 --> 00:13:45.159 So that was pretty crazy. 213 00:13:45.399 --> 00:13:48.960 I might notched it down as to something I don't 214 00:13:49.039 --> 00:13:52.519 remember looking up what it could have been. I didn't 215 00:13:52.559 --> 00:13:56.879 know about dog men back then, told my wife, so 216 00:13:57.000 --> 00:13:59.039 let's go six months forward, and this is where the 217 00:13:59.039 --> 00:14:02.679 big sighting that woke me up to the entire theme 218 00:14:02.720 --> 00:14:08.159 of dog man or cryptids. I was going to visit 219 00:14:08.200 --> 00:14:10.440 that same lake, but the other side of it. So 220 00:14:10.480 --> 00:14:12.759 I had in this case to go outside the base gate. 221 00:14:12.759 --> 00:14:15.639 Intead of turning right, I turned left on a paved road, 222 00:14:16.360 --> 00:14:20.519 went maybe ten fifteen miles down south of the base, 223 00:14:20.960 --> 00:14:23.919 and then I went east towards the lake along the 224 00:14:23.960 --> 00:14:29.279 Snake River, anyone's familiar with the Snake River. It goes 225 00:14:29.440 --> 00:14:33.840 quite a ways in through Idaho, and I think it 226 00:14:34.159 --> 00:14:39.480 turns up into Montana and it's fed by the Rocky mountains. 227 00:14:41.039 --> 00:14:42.840 So I went out to the lake. 228 00:14:43.000 --> 00:14:46.799 I did some fishing and bass fishing, did pretty well, 229 00:14:47.080 --> 00:14:49.919 had a few to bring back home to cook that night, 230 00:14:50.759 --> 00:14:54.840 and I was returning home. So I'm driving parallel to 231 00:14:54.879 --> 00:15:01.320 the Snake River, about twenty five miles from the base 232 00:15:01.519 --> 00:15:03.759 from Mountain Home Air Force Base if you were to 233 00:15:03.799 --> 00:15:08.320 go straight line, and it was starting to get dark, 234 00:15:08.799 --> 00:15:11.080 or it was about ready to hit dusk, like the 235 00:15:11.120 --> 00:15:15.159 sun was going down. And as I was driving home 236 00:15:15.240 --> 00:15:19.120 on a two lane paved road, the river's on my 237 00:15:19.240 --> 00:15:23.360 left and there's a bank that maybe goes up fifteen 238 00:15:23.399 --> 00:15:26.919 feet high, and I'm driving along on all of us. 239 00:15:26.960 --> 00:15:30.240 I looked to the right left driving in, and nobody's 240 00:15:30.279 --> 00:15:33.519 out there on the road, and holy crap, I saw 241 00:15:33.639 --> 00:15:37.879 three black creatures. And the one I saw six months 242 00:15:37.879 --> 00:15:40.600 before just popped in my mind. Is that with the 243 00:15:40.639 --> 00:15:43.519 one I saw, it was like one hundred yards away, 244 00:15:43.639 --> 00:15:48.679 just five times closer. And I put my brakes and 245 00:15:48.919 --> 00:15:53.039 it stopped as quietly as I could because I had 246 00:15:53.039 --> 00:15:53.840 already passed them. 247 00:15:54.159 --> 00:15:54.519 I knew. 248 00:15:54.519 --> 00:15:57.399 I looked up there and saw three seven to eight 249 00:15:57.440 --> 00:16:02.639 foot tall, hairy black creature, your solid jet black with 250 00:16:02.679 --> 00:16:06.039 a dog face, and it looked like you remember the 251 00:16:06.039 --> 00:16:14.559 old Werewolf movies something like that, and it's just like whoa. 252 00:16:15.360 --> 00:16:19.519 I backed up slowly in the car and they were gone. Now, 253 00:16:19.559 --> 00:16:21.879 of course, I thought, being the adventurer that I am, 254 00:16:22.200 --> 00:16:24.480 all you gotta do is pull over the side, put 255 00:16:24.480 --> 00:16:29.600 my hatters on and go up there and see. At 256 00:16:29.600 --> 00:16:32.120 that time, we didn't even have cell phones, because it 257 00:16:32.200 --> 00:16:35.360 was like fourteen years ago, just coming from Germany where 258 00:16:35.399 --> 00:16:38.320 we didn't have cell phones. We only had those phone 259 00:16:38.360 --> 00:16:43.919 cards to call, if you remember the phone cards. So 260 00:16:44.000 --> 00:16:45.519 I wish I would have had a camera or a 261 00:16:45.559 --> 00:16:48.440 cell phone to take pictures, but I didn't. And I 262 00:16:48.480 --> 00:16:50.799 stood there and thought, do I want to take the chance? 263 00:16:52.480 --> 00:16:55.399 And I did not go up and it always I mean, 264 00:16:55.440 --> 00:16:56.639 I could have got footprints. 265 00:16:57.200 --> 00:16:57.639 I could have. 266 00:16:57.679 --> 00:16:59.320 I could have looked around see where the heck they 267 00:16:59.360 --> 00:17:03.279 would have went. That that's a total of four creatures 268 00:17:03.279 --> 00:17:06.799 that looked identical to each other. And that's when I 269 00:17:06.839 --> 00:17:09.680 did a deep dive and the internet was you know, 270 00:17:09.720 --> 00:17:11.799 it started twenty five years ago, so it's fourteen years ago. 271 00:17:12.000 --> 00:17:14.119 It was starting to pop up, and I did a 272 00:17:14.160 --> 00:17:19.680 YouTube search and I found dog Man because that's what 273 00:17:19.720 --> 00:17:22.799 it looked like, creatures that looked like dogs in the 274 00:17:22.839 --> 00:17:29.559 high desert, and there had been sightings, and I came 275 00:17:29.599 --> 00:17:33.400 to realization I just seen something much like Bigfoot, because 276 00:17:33.400 --> 00:17:36.119 I learned about all the Bigfoot sightings in the Northwest 277 00:17:36.519 --> 00:17:40.359 earlier than that, and so I had to share it 278 00:17:40.400 --> 00:17:43.240 with people with talking to my wife said are you 279 00:17:43.279 --> 00:17:47.519 sure it wasn't just a big dog or no, it 280 00:17:47.640 --> 00:17:49.680 wasn't a dog, it wasn't a bear on the high 281 00:17:49.720 --> 00:17:54.799 desert chaparral, and it's kind of if you just jump 282 00:17:54.960 --> 00:17:58.720 the lake or I saw these coming back. They probably 283 00:17:58.720 --> 00:18:01.599 were only ten miles apart. The one was on the 284 00:18:01.640 --> 00:18:04.160 western side of the lake. The other are three or 285 00:18:04.200 --> 00:18:06.759 on the eastern side of the lake. And there's one 286 00:18:06.799 --> 00:18:09.799 way to visit the lake with these dirt roads surrounding 287 00:18:09.839 --> 00:18:14.559 the lake. And those are my two sightings and I'll 288 00:18:14.559 --> 00:18:16.920 stick to it to the day I die that I 289 00:18:16.960 --> 00:18:23.000 did see and they all looked identical, like nothing adolescent 290 00:18:23.119 --> 00:18:25.119 or small. I think they were adults. I don't know 291 00:18:25.119 --> 00:18:28.440 how tall you've ever seen or heard people see they 292 00:18:28.599 --> 00:18:29.359 say they were, but. 293 00:18:32.480 --> 00:18:35.119 They were bigger than I was. I'm six foot two. 294 00:18:36.240 --> 00:18:39.519 Well they are credible eyewitnesses who reported seeing twelve footers, 295 00:18:39.920 --> 00:18:42.119 so they can get to be a lot bigger than that. 296 00:18:42.960 --> 00:18:44.400 Wow. 297 00:18:44.880 --> 00:18:48.000 Wow is right, Well a lot of things about them. 298 00:18:48.240 --> 00:18:50.240 Wow is the best way to describe it or sum 299 00:18:50.240 --> 00:18:54.160 it up. It really is. Did I hear you correctly? 300 00:18:54.799 --> 00:18:56.720 Did you really wait that long to tell your wife 301 00:18:56.759 --> 00:19:00.039 about that first sighting at Striker Lake or did you 302 00:19:00.119 --> 00:19:01.240 tell her almost right away? 303 00:19:02.000 --> 00:19:04.359 Yeah, if anyone wants to go check out to see 304 00:19:04.440 --> 00:19:06.839 to have an adventure, I beg them to do it, 305 00:19:06.960 --> 00:19:08.000 or if you've got time. 306 00:19:08.359 --> 00:19:08.720 CJ. 307 00:19:08.920 --> 00:19:13.119 Striker Reservoir. It's part of the Snake River. They just 308 00:19:13.200 --> 00:19:17.559 dam it to build the water up for agriculture, water 309 00:19:17.920 --> 00:19:21.640 and flood control of that kind of stuff. But yeah, 310 00:19:21.680 --> 00:19:24.359 I know, I've been married thirty three years. So I 311 00:19:24.400 --> 00:19:29.319 came home and told her about my sightings both times. 312 00:19:30.200 --> 00:19:36.200 But she's one of these conservative Catholics, doesn't really really 313 00:19:36.200 --> 00:19:39.480 want to believe or doesn't believe period in this kind 314 00:19:39.480 --> 00:19:45.880 of stuff. Like percent of the human race, I would say, 315 00:19:46.880 --> 00:19:48.920 even my buddies in the Northwest when I go up 316 00:19:48.920 --> 00:19:51.839 to visit Portland, Oregon, we'd have beers and I tell 317 00:19:51.880 --> 00:19:55.599 them about it, and they'd laugh because none of them 318 00:19:55.640 --> 00:19:58.839 are adventurous as I am. I used to go out 319 00:19:58.839 --> 00:20:01.240 with my fourth first View or a Ford Courier in 320 00:20:01.279 --> 00:20:06.519 my motorcycle and drive the back roads from the top 321 00:20:06.680 --> 00:20:10.960 of the Cascades to the coast to the BlackBerry River 322 00:20:11.359 --> 00:20:14.480 off in the haleem Or there's nothing, but you know 323 00:20:14.519 --> 00:20:19.240 the Tillam Burn. It's a world famous burn in the twenties, 324 00:20:19.839 --> 00:20:24.279 huge forest, go deep deep in there. Before I knew 325 00:20:24.279 --> 00:20:27.680 about bigfoot, but I keep thinking I camped there fished. 326 00:20:28.880 --> 00:20:30.720 That would have been a great place to see a 327 00:20:30.720 --> 00:20:35.599 bigfoot if there ever was one. But yeah, I never 328 00:20:35.640 --> 00:20:39.519 expected anything this huge to live out in a high 329 00:20:39.559 --> 00:20:44.480 desert chaparral area with sagebrush and the lake. 330 00:20:45.480 --> 00:20:47.960 Well, you never expect to see these guys until you do. 331 00:20:48.400 --> 00:20:53.079 That's how normally goes. Your buddies know about your encounters now. 332 00:20:53.240 --> 00:20:55.880 But when you're in the military, I'm sure you kept 333 00:20:55.880 --> 00:21:00.240 those experiences close to the vest for obvious reasons, didn't you. 334 00:21:00.319 --> 00:21:03.880 Oh yeah, yeah, although you do. You've heard of these 335 00:21:04.519 --> 00:21:09.319 military members that that after World War two, there was 336 00:21:09.960 --> 00:21:18.240 UFOs or the Montana Missi layer bases. I mean, this 337 00:21:18.319 --> 00:21:22.559 is you know David Politis Politis, Oh yeah, yeah, he 338 00:21:22.680 --> 00:21:25.519 just had a big Foot movie released three months ago maybe, 339 00:21:26.720 --> 00:21:29.680 and he's thinking that not only are these sightings real, 340 00:21:29.799 --> 00:21:33.880 but they're connected with aliens and UFOs, which goes goes, 341 00:21:33.960 --> 00:21:36.359 kind of goes way out there, because if they were 342 00:21:36.400 --> 00:21:41.480 out there, you hope to hear more than just the 343 00:21:41.640 --> 00:21:46.640 sounds and the bigfoot casings that they pour plaster in 344 00:21:46.920 --> 00:21:51.119 or hairs. You think you'd have a body. So where's 345 00:21:51.160 --> 00:21:55.119 where are the bodies? If these are real sightings? That's 346 00:21:55.160 --> 00:21:58.839 why science does not actually share with us. 347 00:21:58.960 --> 00:21:59.960 They are real creatures. 348 00:22:01.039 --> 00:22:04.880 They've sent in blood and they have DNA that's un 349 00:22:05.319 --> 00:22:09.920 corroborated with any scientific evidence that matches with anything known 350 00:22:10.119 --> 00:22:12.480 on Earth. But you know, you have sightings on all 351 00:22:12.960 --> 00:22:17.759 seven continents YETI and you probably could share with the 352 00:22:18.440 --> 00:22:22.799 listener how many tens and tens of different languages there 353 00:22:22.839 --> 00:22:26.279 are that equates to Bigfoot? Are there other languages to 354 00:22:26.359 --> 00:22:28.480 talk about dogmen in other countries as well? 355 00:22:29.440 --> 00:22:29.640 Well? 356 00:22:29.759 --> 00:22:33.359 See that's the thing. When dogmen communicate with eyewitnesses, it's 357 00:22:33.440 --> 00:22:38.640 via telepathy, so they don't speak the spoken word the 358 00:22:38.720 --> 00:22:42.759 way people have reported hearing sasquatch do. So when you're hearing, 359 00:22:42.880 --> 00:22:45.799 in most cases, it's your own voice that you hear. 360 00:22:46.240 --> 00:22:48.920 Not every time. Some people hear a different voice in 361 00:22:48.960 --> 00:22:52.079 their head. But in a lot of cases, the eyewitnesses 362 00:22:52.119 --> 00:22:55.480 hear these words spoken in their heads, in their own voices. 363 00:22:56.119 --> 00:22:59.839 But yeah, like I said, with sasquatch, in some cases, 364 00:23:00.319 --> 00:23:03.720 the sasquatch apparently say the words out loud. I'll never 365 00:23:03.799 --> 00:23:07.400 understand that. But there's been a lot of reputable eyewitnesses 366 00:23:07.400 --> 00:23:08.960 who reported experiencing man. 367 00:23:10.079 --> 00:23:12.480 Yeah, just like that old older he was in his 368 00:23:12.519 --> 00:23:18.240 forties with a group of hunters north of where the 369 00:23:18.279 --> 00:23:23.039 Patterson Gimlin film was put in in California, in the Sierras, 370 00:23:23.319 --> 00:23:28.559 and he has those recordings of those crazy e owls 371 00:23:28.599 --> 00:23:33.960 and screams and and noises that he attributes to Bigfoot. 372 00:23:35.440 --> 00:23:38.519 But do dog men make noises? Are they howling like 373 00:23:38.559 --> 00:23:42.119 the werewolves? Or have you heard of people stating that 374 00:23:42.160 --> 00:23:46.079 they heard a dog man's make noise all the time? 375 00:23:46.920 --> 00:23:50.640 Okay, hmm, did you ever go back there to strike 376 00:23:50.680 --> 00:23:53.279 a reservoir after seeing that first dog man? 377 00:23:54.680 --> 00:23:55.480 The second one? 378 00:23:55.960 --> 00:23:58.680 No, the first dog man when you had that first encounter, 379 00:23:58.839 --> 00:24:01.000 did you ever? I guess we had the second encounter 380 00:24:01.079 --> 00:24:03.119 close to the same spot, but on the other side 381 00:24:03.160 --> 00:24:06.000 of the reservoir, So apparently you did go back. 382 00:24:06.720 --> 00:24:10.160 Yeah, And that summer or the summer after I took 383 00:24:10.200 --> 00:24:12.839 my whole family, we went camping on the lake at 384 00:24:12.880 --> 00:24:18.079 a big camp ground with tens of other visitors. Typical 385 00:24:18.079 --> 00:24:23.119 place a human being would visit a natural lake, or 386 00:24:23.319 --> 00:24:24.279 along the Snake River. 387 00:24:24.440 --> 00:24:25.359 We'd go down. 388 00:24:25.240 --> 00:24:29.880 To the dam just to I went river rafting into 389 00:24:29.880 --> 00:24:34.319 the Hell's Canyon on the Snake West. Actually it's actually 390 00:24:34.359 --> 00:24:37.240 deeper than Grand Canyon. I did that for a whole week, 391 00:24:37.799 --> 00:24:40.240 but never saw any creatures on that visit. Just had 392 00:24:40.279 --> 00:24:47.359 a blast in the river raft and you know, ate 393 00:24:47.400 --> 00:24:50.640 off the river and fished and that was a really, 394 00:24:50.640 --> 00:24:51.519 really great time. 395 00:24:52.359 --> 00:24:54.920 Yeah, that sounds like a good time. But since it 396 00:24:54.960 --> 00:24:57.440 wasn't that long after that first sighting that you were 397 00:24:57.480 --> 00:25:00.960 camping with your family in that area, could enjoy yourself. 398 00:25:03.519 --> 00:25:05.839 I did, because the first one I really never notched 399 00:25:05.839 --> 00:25:08.519 it as a sighting per se. It's just like something 400 00:25:08.519 --> 00:25:12.759 I saw and didn't even look it up. Probably a 401 00:25:12.799 --> 00:25:16.920