Speaker 1: It's time for Coffee and Company. Fueled by Thornton's on
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Speaker 2: Crap, I don't know who the hell we think when we.
Speaker 1: Are get off our show. Idiots. The kids are playing
Speaker 1: or trail off.
Speaker 2: The countries are.
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Speaker 2: They're supposed to be mature adults, but they're really not.
Speaker 1: Who's the kid here? Who's the kid here? Are you
Speaker 1: kidding me? Now? Here's Nick Coffee?
Speaker 3: You know, right before the show started myself, Nick Coffee,
Speaker 3: that's me. I hope you guys knew that. And Austin Montgomery,
Speaker 3: the travel chief, we were talking about the big change
Speaker 3: coming for me, which is that this will you know,
Speaker 3: next Friday will be my last show here on seven ninety.
Speaker 2: And I really thought.
Speaker 3: This week that it would it would, it would set in,
Speaker 3: it would hit me that the clock's ticking, and it
Speaker 3: really hasn't. And I've had to kind of remind myself
Speaker 3: each day before the show starts, Hey, have fun, Nick,
Speaker 3: you know, make the most of it.
Speaker 2: And yet it still feels like a force.
Speaker 3: I don't know if it's in denial or if it'll
Speaker 3: it'll more so hit me next week. But when giving
Speaker 3: it some thought, as I get older, you know there
Speaker 3: are like when you think of like big life changes.
Speaker 3: I mean there's there's I don't know, I guess honestly
Speaker 3: the biggest Austin, let me ask you this just to
Speaker 3: get your perspective, because we're different in life. What what
Speaker 3: do you feel like was the biggest change you made,
Speaker 3: like as an adult? Oh? Probably, Can I take a guess, yes,
Speaker 3: Like when you started living with your girl that's now
Speaker 3: your fiance, because that, you know, that's a big deal, right.
Speaker 4: Like moving out, like moving out of my parents' house.
Speaker 4: It was I was thinking about that last night. I
Speaker 4: did during COVID and then uh moved back in with them,
Speaker 4: and then eventually moved back out to my buddies and
Speaker 4: one't even living there for like a like three months,
Speaker 4: and moved in with my fiance.
Speaker 3: So I'm technically getting a new job, but I'm technically
Speaker 3: not right. So maybe that's why, because I was thinking
Speaker 3: about other big changes that have happened for me in
Speaker 3: life as an adult, and there's no bigger change I
Speaker 3: think for most humans that are parents than when they
Speaker 3: become a parent and when you are a you know
Speaker 3: you now, I mean you just you can't really put
Speaker 3: into words, and I'm sure everybody's different, but for me,
Speaker 3: I mean you you you Without even really thinking about it,
Speaker 3: it happens, meaning boom, there's a baby that you're responsible
Speaker 3: for along with your spouse that you just you automatically
Speaker 3: become a more selfless version of yourself without even thinking
Speaker 3: about it. It's just it's like human nature. So that's
Speaker 3: the biggest change I can really think about when it
Speaker 3: cause it's really two different lives pre kid and then
Speaker 3: you know, as a parent. So you know, I've moved.
Speaker 3: I feel like moving's a big deal, right, like especially
Speaker 3: if you live somewhere for a long time. So my
Speaker 3: wife and I we lived in our first house for
Speaker 3: I guess about seven eight years, and then we moved
Speaker 3: in about twenty eighteen and lived there until about twenty
Speaker 3: twenty two, and then we've been in the house we're
Speaker 3: at now. And I remember each time we'd move, even
Speaker 3: the time when we moved out of our apartment which
Speaker 3: we had for a few years when we were real young,
Speaker 3: and I would think, Okay, this is a big change,
Speaker 3: like instead of you know, instead of driving home and
Speaker 3: going to this place after work every day you're going
Speaker 3: to be going somewhere different, and you know it's but
Speaker 3: I don't know why. But those things just it's all
Speaker 3: a blur, like I don't remember any big transition. I
Speaker 3: don't remember any any real bigodgie adjustment that was made.
Speaker 3: So I don't know. I'm there's a part of me
Speaker 3: that says, I'm, I'm this is the way it should be,
Speaker 3: and this is the this is the better way because
Speaker 3: I'm not overthinking it. I'm just showing up doing the
Speaker 3: show and you know, going about it as if it
Speaker 3: wasn't going to be over before too long. So again,
Speaker 3: living in the moment, I guess that's the best way
Speaker 3: to to you know, experience it and not overthink it
Speaker 3: and let the raw and real emotion whatever it is,
Speaker 3: come naturally. But you know, after today, I guess, really
Speaker 3: after today, it's five more shows because we're off Monday
Speaker 3: because of the holiday. So again the clock's ticking and
Speaker 3: I keep thinking, okay, you got to really, you know,
Speaker 3: and I don't really know what I would do throughout
Speaker 3: the three hours to make it really you know, to
Speaker 3: soak the most out of it as I can. But
Speaker 3: I'll certainly try, but again it's kind of been as is,
Speaker 3: which I guess that's probably good because people don't want
Speaker 3: to hear me gap about it for three hours, and
Speaker 3: I I've tried not to really do that. But then again,
Speaker 3: I'm trying to balance, like, Okay, let's let's continue to
Speaker 3: go about the show like we typically do, because that's
Speaker 3: what people have come to expect and that's probably what
Speaker 3: they would want. But then again, selfishly, I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 3: you know what, let's not do the show like we
Speaker 3: typically do. Let's do something different because why not. I mean,
Speaker 3: it's it's coming to an end here. So yeah, I
Speaker 3: guess the bit you know, you put in your two weeks, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm I'm yeah. I mean, at this point, as far
Speaker 3: as evaluating what we do here, it would really be
Speaker 3: all for nothing. I guess I could really make an
Speaker 3: asset of myself and completely mail it in over these
Speaker 3: next five shows, and then maybe they'd rethink about putting
Speaker 3: me in the mornings on eight forty app. I would
Speaker 3: hope that wouldn't happen, but uh, you know, I'll make
Speaker 3: sure I finished strong here to where they don't even
Speaker 3: think about doing that.
Speaker 2: But welcome into the I.
Speaker 3: Guess this is the this is the sixth after today's
Speaker 3: the sixth to the last show we'll have, so so
Speaker 3: let's make the most of it. It's Coffee and Company,
Speaker 3: fueled by Thornton's here on Sports Talk seven ninety. I'm
Speaker 3: Nick Coffee. He's Austin Montgomery, and we're taking you up
Speaker 3: until about five thirty today because.
Speaker 2: We're out early.
Speaker 3: The bats are in action, so we'll make the most
Speaker 3: of what we have. How about the bats stealing the
Speaker 3: little time I have left? I mean, I'm not complaining.
Speaker 3: It's a nice day. Wouldn't be a bet, it's always
Speaker 3: It wouldn't be bad to get out of here a
Speaker 3: little bit early, so we'll we'll have some fun. And
Speaker 3: speaking of fun, I had a lot of fun last night.
Speaker 3: And before we get into Mia Indiana Pacers. Oh oh,
Speaker 3: you went to you went to the.
Speaker 5: Oh no, I know what you were talking about? Basketball? Okay,
Speaker 5: that was.
Speaker 2: Never mind.
Speaker 3: Anyways, I need to start with an apology to the NBA,
Speaker 3: because I mean, I completely probably went overboard about how
Speaker 3: just sad and depressing it was to you.
Speaker 2: Because I used to love.
Speaker 3: The NBA and in the last few years I've just
Speaker 3: decided that it's not worth even trying to convince myself
Speaker 3: that it was going to be anything other than what
Speaker 3: it typically is. And look, technically, we've had some real
Speaker 3: blowouts and games, but overall, top to bottom, I'd say
Speaker 3: it would be hard to imagine that this postseason up
Speaker 3: to this point hasn't been substantially more entertaining than I
Speaker 3: feel like the playoffs have been in a long long time.
Speaker 3: So last night, my Indiana Pacers, I mean, I would
Speaker 3: rarely ever want to start with my Pacers because I
Speaker 3: know a lot of people around here don't really care
Speaker 3: about the Pacers or the NBA. But I mean, what
Speaker 3: a finish, I mean, what a phenomenal basketball game. That's
Speaker 3: what a lot of people are understandably saying, and they're
Speaker 3: they're correct, because it was a great game from start
Speaker 3: to finish. And that's the obvious observation if you watch
Speaker 3: with really no rooting interest. But for me, I mean,
Speaker 3: i was watching at his Nie Smith went full Reggie Miller.
Speaker 3: I'm thinking to myself, well, this is great because they're
Speaker 3: going to be down one and obviously, you know they
Speaker 3: could have won this game if they.
Speaker 2: Do a little bit better.
Speaker 3: On the backboard if they you know, just little things.
Speaker 3: If they would have lost last night, I would have
Speaker 3: felt still confident that they can win. Obviously, you know,
Speaker 3: easier Seve than done. But they were competitive. I don't
Speaker 3: think they played great, but you know, hey, they're competitive.
Speaker 3: Eventually you're gonna have to steal one in New York.
Speaker 3: So maybe maybe next maybe game two will be when
Speaker 3: that happens. Well, they ended up stealing game one with
Speaker 3: another comeback that just makes absolutely no sense. And Nie Smith,
Speaker 3: I mean, that was one of the best things you'll
Speaker 3: ever see from I mean anybody in that situation for
Speaker 3: him to I mean make Yeah. I wanted to pull
Speaker 3: up the specific stat here, but in NBA history, two
Speaker 3: players have had twenty plus points and five plus threes
Speaker 3: in the fourth quarter of a playoff game on the
Speaker 3: opponent's court. Both did so for the Pacers at Madison
Speaker 3: Square Garden in the Eastern Conference Finals on a Wednesday
Speaker 3: for that matter, last night, Aaron NEI Smith and then
Speaker 3: on June first, nineteen ninety four, Reggie Miller did it.
Speaker 3: And for Reggie Miller to be on the call as
Speaker 3: Nie Smith goes full Reggie Miller Halliburton seemingly hits the
Speaker 3: game winner and does the Reggie Miller choke gesture on
Speaker 3: the Madison Square Garden court, only for us to see
Speaker 3: that he was clearly.
Speaker 2: On the line.
Speaker 3: They go to overtime and then win it. But like
Speaker 3: that was cinema. That was absolute, straight out of a
Speaker 3: movie kind of thing. Like you could not have scripted
Speaker 3: Game one really any better at all for the Indiana Pacers.
Speaker 3: I mean, I guess it would have been pretty special
Speaker 3: had the buzzer beater actually been a three point shot
Speaker 3: and not a two because he was on the line.
Speaker 2: But I'm happy they went to overtime and it was.
Speaker 3: Actually more impressive they were able to extend the game
Speaker 3: and then just go beat them, and I kind of
Speaker 3: feel like they I mean, there was a couple of
Speaker 3: plays late where they were just like off balance around
Speaker 3: the rim, where I'm.
Speaker 2: Like, man, you can't you can't be point.
Speaker 3: Blank around the rim, even if you're getting bumped, even
Speaker 3: if you know, even if you're off balance, you got
Speaker 3: to you gotta convert around the rim. So I'm thinking
Speaker 3: in any moment him showed him doing the choking gesture
Speaker 3: and then it not ending the game. I did have
Speaker 3: a little bit of fear feeling the same thing, and
Speaker 3: understandably so, a lot of people did. I did until
Speaker 3: the ball tipped in overtime, and I just could feel
Speaker 3: that the momentum had completely shifted and the way in
Speaker 3: which the Pacers extended that game and came back and
Speaker 3: tied it that defeated the Knicks. The Knicks were defeated
Speaker 3: at that point. And yes, you had a big, a
Speaker 3: big jumper late from might have been Towns and maybe
Speaker 3: maybe McBride on know who. It wasn't overtime for them
Speaker 3: that hit a couple of shots in Hotel. Town scored early,
Speaker 3: they got up, they had a they had a four
Speaker 3: point lead at one point I think it was Towns,
Speaker 3: and then Brunson had a bucket they were up for
Speaker 3: and I kind of felt like, okay, yeah, this this
Speaker 3: doesn't look good. But then again, I mean quickly the
Speaker 3: Pacers would respond. I mean the nim Hart three.
Speaker 2: In the corner was huge.
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe they missed the goaltending call, but there were
Speaker 3: many calls missed, including I mean that dunk from uh
Speaker 3: from from top and he was hacked.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he that that's.
Speaker 3: A guy who is so strong at attacking the rim,
Speaker 3: and he clearly loves playing above the rim. That's that's
Speaker 3: where he's comfortable at that you would never know he
Speaker 3: got fouled, like there was never any like you had
Speaker 3: to look at the replay to see the contact because
Speaker 3: what he did didn't show that he had been contacted
Speaker 3: at all.
Speaker 2: Nobody.
Speaker 3: I mean, he he made a couple of plays last
Speaker 3: night that were just only something an athlete like him
Speaker 3: could do.
Speaker 5: But I mean the game was pretty physical in both yeah.
Speaker 3: And it was and look, I thought about I guess
Speaker 3: midway through the second quarter that the Knicks were really
Speaker 3: showing that they were going to be the better team
Speaker 3: on the glass, and that was going to be a
Speaker 3: real problem for the Pacers. That if their shots aren't
Speaker 3: falling there and then they're giving up second chance points
Speaker 3: after they get a potential stop, then that just isn't
Speaker 3: a good recipe. And really that was the way things
Speaker 3: had played out until Nie Smith decided he was going
Speaker 3: to be Reggie Miller. And how many people do you
Speaker 3: think don't even know who this guy is?
Speaker 5: Probably a lot.
Speaker 3: I mean, he's a good player, certainly for the Pacers,
Speaker 3: but the Pacers, again, they're a small market team to
Speaker 3: an extent. They're not the thunder right, They're not a
Speaker 3: team that didn't exist, you know, fifteen years ago, but
Speaker 3: they just, you know, their stars don't typically like the
Speaker 3: last time, the Pacers, I feel like, had superstar level
Speaker 3: players that got league wide attention that were not just
Speaker 3: you know, good for being on a good team.
Speaker 2: But like with Jermaine O'Neil had that a little bit.
Speaker 3: He's actually a forgotten Pacer that I think I at
Speaker 3: times even needed.
Speaker 1: I mean he was rare.
Speaker 2: I mean he was.
Speaker 3: He was right after Reggie and you went from having
Speaker 3: one superstar to another. And then obviously there was Danny
Speaker 3: Granger and then Paul George and Paul George. I guess
Speaker 3: Paul George did have ye Yeah, Granger was good, but
Speaker 3: the Pacers weren't that good.
Speaker 2: When he was there.
Speaker 5: He was a two K legend.
Speaker 3: Yeah he was really good, but they weren't great when
Speaker 3: he was there. And then with Paul George, clearly they
Speaker 3: got better and they were good. But when Lebron was
Speaker 3: in Miami, nothing was going to Nothing in the Eastern
Speaker 3: Conference was going to get more attention than Bron and
Speaker 3: the Heat understandably, So I mean that was what a
Speaker 3: three four year window whenever you had d Wade and
Speaker 3: Lebron and Bosh and I mean Miami Lebron was different.
Speaker 3: So I feel like the Pacers right now are really
Speaker 3: in the limelight more than they've been in a long time.
Speaker 3: I mean, look, they're back in the Eastern Conference Finals
Speaker 3: for the first time in a long time. That alone
Speaker 3: is special. I mean, that was their first win in
Speaker 3: the Eastern Conference Finals last night since two thousand and four,
Speaker 3: which was twenty years ago. I think it was maybe
Speaker 3: even for longer than that. Actually, So if you're not
Speaker 3: entertained by last night's game, I mean you might have
Speaker 3: went to bed thinking it was over, and if you did,
Speaker 3: understandably so, or maybe you just didn't think to tune
Speaker 3: in because you're just not locked into the playoffs. But
Speaker 3: if you watch that game from start to finish, I
Speaker 3: think you would have to say you were entertained. And
Speaker 3: even even if you watch towards the end, like but again,
Speaker 3: who would turn it on late, see the score and
Speaker 3: see the amount of time left and think, Okay, let
Speaker 3: me lock in for this one. In fact, it's a
Speaker 3: pretty easy channel change if you just tune in as
Speaker 3: they're in desperation mode, firing up threes and trying to
Speaker 3: get stops.
Speaker 2: But it worked out.
Speaker 3: And I mean I woke up and I woke up
Speaker 3: this morning almost in like disbelief that that that happened.
Speaker 3: And I kept my son up way too late because
Speaker 3: I wanted him to keep to keep watching with me.
Speaker 3: And I'm so happy it turned out the way that
Speaker 3: it did. And last night was kind of his moment.
Speaker 3: He's known that I've liked the Pacers, but he's never
Speaker 3: really gotten into it like me, just because you know,
Speaker 3: I don't sit around and watch a lot of Pacers
Speaker 3: games because you know, the NBA is not a really
Speaker 3: entertaining product during the eighty two game regular season the
Speaker 3: last night we were watching and I was trying to
Speaker 3: explain to him and he didn't have a clue what
Speaker 3: I was talking about. But I was explaining the Reggie
Speaker 3: Miller dynamic and explaining the whole choking thing, and it
Speaker 3: was just it was it was a hell of a
Speaker 3: night for me, a Pacers fan. But even if you're
Speaker 3: not a Pacers fan, I mean, if you're a Knicks fan,
Speaker 3: that probably was something you really did not like to see.
Speaker 2: But are you surprised. Are you surprised?
Speaker 3: I can't say this about many teams that I root
Speaker 3: for in any sport, any level, but I can say
Speaker 3: this about my Pacers. When it comes to the New
Speaker 3: York Knicks, we own you like we own you.
Speaker 2: We just do.
Speaker 3: And maybe he'll end up losing this series meeting the Pacers,
Speaker 3: and I won't be able to say that, But like
Speaker 3: last night has got to be one of the most demoralized,
Speaker 3: demoralizing losses of a franchise can have.
Speaker 2: Doesn't mean it's over. They're REI right.
Speaker 3: I mean, wouldn't shock me if they come out and
Speaker 3: win Game two. But the Pacers have already stolen home
Speaker 3: court advantage and I'm still in disbelief that that happened.
Speaker 3: I mean, some more crazy stats that put into perspective
Speaker 3: that come back last night. NBA teams were zero in
Speaker 3: nine hundred and seventy in the playoffs over the last
Speaker 3: twenty seven years when trailing by fourteen or more points
Speaker 3: with under three minutes left in regulation. Now it's one
Speaker 3: in nine to seventy. And it's the Indiana Pacers who
Speaker 3: did it. And that's just their dying's that's their DNA.
Speaker 3: This is this team. They could lose the next four
Speaker 3: and have their season come to an end, which, by god,
Speaker 3: I hope that doesn't happen, but they could do that
Speaker 3: and I think still be viewed as maybe the most
Speaker 3: clutched team we've ever seen in the postseason of the
Speaker 3: NBA playoffs. I mean, they now have three wins that
Speaker 3: are unheard of, and they've done it all this postseason
Speaker 3: and three different series. Down seven with forty seconds left,
Speaker 3: first the Bucks, they win down seven with forty seven
Speaker 3: seconds left. Against the Calves, they win down fourteen with
Speaker 3: two point thirty five left against the Knicks. Last night
Speaker 3: they win. I mean, it's it's it's almost unbelievable. People
Speaker 3: talk about the NBA Draft lottery being rigged, You might
Speaker 3: be able to convince me that the NBA has somehow
Speaker 3: rigged it for the Pacers to pull off these never
Speaker 3: before seen come from behind victories. And Jalen Brunson I
Speaker 3: have a lot of respect for him. In fact, one
Speaker 3: of the things, you you know, when you consider the
Speaker 3: Mavericks getting lucky for being a dumb ass franchise that
Speaker 3: let Luca, that traded away Luca and got an old,
Speaker 3: often injured player that clearly, if he's out of the
Speaker 3: league in four years, I won't be shocked.
Speaker 2: They also gave up Jalen Brunson.
Speaker 3: Like people forget Jalen Brunson was on the Mavericks and
Speaker 3: he was good and they let him go, and then
Speaker 3: they have Luca let him go, and then they get
Speaker 3: the lottery and they're gonna get Cooper Flag. So what
Speaker 3: I've always felt like, Joylyn Brunson is a guy that
Speaker 3: did not check boxes that everybody said you had to
Speaker 3: check to be good in the NBA. He wins, he's competitive,
Speaker 3: he's tough, but he was a guy that this year,
Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure they said it on the broadcast last
Speaker 3: night he won clutch Player of the Year. He wasn't
Speaker 3: very clutch, and Nie Smith and Haliburton collectively were insanely
Speaker 3: more clutch than he was. And Halliburton when he had
Speaker 3: the ball late and it was tied, I'm sorry when
Speaker 3: they were down two. I mean, Austin asked me this
Speaker 3: before the show. I mean, I felt like he was
Speaker 3: gonna score in some way, just because not only has
Speaker 3: he proven to really thribe in those moments and he's
Speaker 3: shown it this postseason, but also the Knicks were just defeated,
Speaker 3: like they were on their heels. They were in disbelief.
Speaker 3: The air had been sucked out of Madison Square Garden.
Speaker 3: All the bandwagon celebrities that want to show up and
Speaker 3: sit court side and act like they like the Knicks
Speaker 3: year round, they were all in disbelief, or maybe they
Speaker 3: weren't because they don't really care.
Speaker 2: They're fake fans.
Speaker 3: Spike Lee's the only guy who I think legitimately we
Speaker 3: can say he's a day one. Also, I'll give Ben
Speaker 3: Stiller a little bit of a pass here too, because
Speaker 3: I think he's always been a knit guy.
Speaker 2: And Larry David, maybe because I like Larry David.
Speaker 3: But like Larry David, I haven't seen him courtside at
Speaker 3: a lot of Knicks games recently, but he was there
Speaker 3: last night. So anyways, I felt like he was gonna
Speaker 3: go score, but just for him to realize, Okay, we're
Speaker 3: a little out of sorts here. I'm certainly gonna try
Speaker 3: to take the last shot, but you know what, I've
Speaker 3: got somewhat of a pack.
Speaker 2: To the rim. Now I'm gonna go try to win it.
Speaker 3: And for him to pull off that step back that
Speaker 3: really he wasn't I mean, I don't want to bag
Speaker 3: on Brunson too much, but like I don't Brunson was
Speaker 3: awful defensively against him late. I'm pretty sure that's who
Speaker 3: was on him. Maybe I'm wrong, maybe I'm not remembering correctly,
Speaker 3: but whoever it was, Halliburton hit the step back and
Speaker 3: when the ball hit the back of the rim and
Speaker 3: elevated seemingly ten feet in the air, I felt like
Speaker 3: it was in the air for ten minutes. It's like
Speaker 3: time stopped. And at no moment did I have any
Speaker 3: any doubt that that was going in which I mean
Speaker 3: most would assume there's no way he gets the perfect bounce,
Speaker 3: and he did. But I had such confidence because again,
Speaker 3: that's what this Pacers team has done in the postseason,
Speaker 3: and it's been phenomenal, phenomenal to see, especially from my
Speaker 3: standpoint as somebody who's who's a Pacers fan. I also
Speaker 3: don't think anybody even thought about could his foot have
Speaker 3: been on the line. I mean, it all happened so quickly,
Speaker 3: and the reaction after the fact clearly that that was
Speaker 3: what you would expect whenever you can when you think
Speaker 3: you just won. But Halliburton, to me, maybe this is
Speaker 3: a little bit of an overreaction. Maybe this is some
Speaker 3: recency biased on my end, but he he showed more.
Speaker 3: I think of his clutch gene if you will, last night,
Speaker 3: because I think most would have had a little bit
Speaker 3: of uh, they would have been a little tight in
Speaker 3: overtime knowing that they hit that big shot, celebrated the
Speaker 3: way they did, and yet it didn't actually end the game,
Speaker 3: It just extended it. But you know, you could, I
Speaker 3: mean you could see what he was visually. You could
Speaker 3: visually read his lips in what he was saying right
Speaker 3: as soon as the overtime was about to tip off.
Speaker 3: And I can't say what it was he said, but
Speaker 3: he was ready. I mean, they they knew that they
Speaker 3: just by coming back and tying it, maybe even before
Speaker 3: they tied it, they knew they'd already beat the Knicks.
Speaker 3: And then the Knicks did what the Knicks do, the
Speaker 3: biggest front running franchise I've ever seen in any in
Speaker 3: any sport. They've never done anything in my lifetime that
Speaker 3: is like like a big accomplishment. Yeah, they've made the
Speaker 3: Eastern Conference finals. I guess they did. They play in
Speaker 3: the in the finals. At one point in the nineties
Speaker 3: maybe when Jordan retired or did I dream that.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: But yet anytime they have a little splash of success,
Speaker 3: they act as if they've done this many times and
Speaker 3: that they are entitled and like they this is what
Speaker 3: they do, especially when it comes to my Pacers. We
Speaker 3: own the New York Knicks, I can't really say. I mean,
Speaker 3: I'm a Colts fan, and I'm obviously a big time
Speaker 3: Louisville fan. Louisville has had has gotten the best of
Speaker 3: certain teams in certain sports over the years, but I
Speaker 3: don't know if I can say that like we own
Speaker 3: any I mean, clearly, I don't think we can say
Speaker 3: we own Kentucky and basketball, No, we can't say that.
Speaker 3: And in football we still feel like we have always
Speaker 3: been superior. But obviously, you know, they did beat us,
Speaker 3: what five straight times or whatever it was before we
Speaker 3: got the cutback. So it's just nice to be able
Speaker 3: to say it about a rival because clearly the Knicks
Speaker 3: and the Pacers, that's a rivalry. So again, I was
Speaker 3: enjoying every bit of last night, and I don't know how.
Speaker 3: I mean, maybe the Knicks do come back and they
Speaker 3: win this series. That could certainly happen. I'm not saying
Speaker 3: that it's already over, but if they just kind of
Speaker 3: wilt the rest of the way, I won't be shocked
Speaker 3: because talk about demoralizing. All right, let's get the table
Speaker 3: set for the next couple of hours here that we've
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Speaker 3: See where Jeff Bram ends up. Also, we need to
Speaker 3: take a look at what just got I guess approved
Speaker 3: unanimously to the college football playoff coming up this season.
Speaker 3: And I think there's one specific fact, there's one specific
Speaker 3: outcome that could come from this change to the college
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Speaker 3: So in just our second season with a expanded college
Speaker 3: football playoff twelve team playoff, they've already made a change,
Speaker 3: and that is that they're going to have straight seeding,
Speaker 3: which means that we won't have to winning your conference
Speaker 3: doesn't just automatically mean that you get one of those
Speaker 3: top four spots and a buy which I think this
Speaker 3: is the way that it should be. I understand wanting
Speaker 3: to incentivize those who who win a conference championship, because
Speaker 3: that's that's a real it's a real accomplishment. However, I
Speaker 3: mean knowing that you have to actually like if you
Speaker 3: win the regular season in your conference, actually think that's
Speaker 3: more impressive than winning the championship game. I mean, they're
Speaker 3: going to still have these conference champions ship games that
Speaker 3: take place once the regular season comes to an end,
Speaker 3: because those are big paydays for television and whatnot. But
Speaker 3: I mean, does it really feel like if you won
Speaker 3: your regular season in your league and you are the
Speaker 3: Big Ten, the ACC or i'm sorry, the SEC of
Speaker 3: the Big ten and maybe even the ACC, there's a
Speaker 3: good chance you're you're still likely going to make the
Speaker 3: twelve team playoff. So yeah, adding a conference championship that's
Speaker 3: at the you know, I guess that technically is considered
Speaker 3: the championship is a big deal, but you're still alive
Speaker 3: for the actual national championship and that always. I mean,
Speaker 3: it's like in college basketball, winning your conference championship tournament
Speaker 3: is a big deal. It's an accomplishment. But like, you know,
Speaker 3: had Duke lost to Louisville and the ACC championship this year,
Speaker 3: like it wouldn't have probably been a big deal to
Speaker 3: them because you know, Cooper Flag didn't play one and
Speaker 3: also like they know they were a championship caliber team.
Speaker 3: And in football, now you have that because the playoff
Speaker 3: is expanded. In a previous world when it's a two
Speaker 3: team which wouldn't be a playoff, it's just when the
Speaker 3: BCS formula just decided who plays. You know, you can
Speaker 3: just chalk it up as, hey, you know, we know
Speaker 3: we're really good, we got a great resume, but man,
Speaker 3: only two teams get to play for the championship. You
Speaker 3: can still kind of say that in the four team
Speaker 3: format too, knowing that hey, we're gonna have a tough
Speaker 3: time seeing ourselves getting in in one of those four spots,
Speaker 3: but man, we could still go win our conference championship. Well, now,
Speaker 3: if you were even in the position to play for
Speaker 3: your conference championship and you're one of the Power four leagues,
Speaker 3: you're probably still thinking about making it a run to
Speaker 3: the actual championship game and winning a college football national championship.
Speaker 2: But maybe I'm wrong because.
Speaker 3: As I say that, I'm thinking back that really there's.
Speaker 2: Now more inclusion at the top of the sport.
Speaker 3: Right, more teams can can punch a ticket to the playoff,
Speaker 3: which I feel like we'll be looked at as the
Speaker 3: equivalent of making a Final four in college basketball. But
Speaker 3: it hasn't really changed the fact that national championship contenders
Speaker 3: usually there's probably two three teams when you get to
Speaker 3: midway through the season that you really feel like are
Speaker 3: legitimately going to be able to win the entire thing.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I think this is the right move. And
Speaker 3: what this does is it actually gives Notre Dame a
Speaker 3: chance to get one of the top four spots and
Speaker 3: get a buye, which Notre Dame, if you really wanted
Speaker 3: to sign that they were committed to their independence because
Speaker 3: of the previous format, they don't play in a conference. Therefore,
Speaker 3: no matter what they were never going to be able
Speaker 3: to get a bye. Now they could also host a championship.
Speaker 3: They can host a playoff game, which you know, obviously
Speaker 3: having to win less games to win a national championship
Speaker 3: is probably the preferable route if you want to be
Speaker 3: a national championship program. But man, the revenue you could
Speaker 3: get and just the atmosphere.
Speaker 2: You could get.
Speaker 3: Eventually it'll wear off because it'll be a constant thing.
Speaker 3: But in the early years here, like the thought of
Speaker 3: Louisville putting themselves in a position where they could host
Speaker 3: a college football playoff game, like, that's crazy to think
Speaker 3: about the atmosphere of the environment. So I think this
Speaker 3: is the right This is the right move. And really
Speaker 3: there's such an imbalance when it comes to the the
Speaker 3: conferences now right like like last year, who let me,
Speaker 3: I need to look up the bracket from last year
Speaker 3: because you know, Arizona State getting a bye like didn't
Speaker 3: make a lot of sense. Now again, they still actually
Speaker 3: perform better in the playoff than I think that I
Speaker 3: think most you know, most people expected. But it should
Speaker 3: just be the four best teams regardless of your conference,
Speaker 3: and you know, will that lead to the top four
Speaker 3: spots typically going to Big Ten and SEC teams. Yeah,
Speaker 3: probably will, but I can't really argue that that wouldn't
Speaker 3: be that wouldn't be justified. So yeah, I forgot Boise
Speaker 3: got the the Boise gotta buy, Georgia gotta buy, Arizona
Speaker 3: State gotta buy, and Oregon gotta buy. So you had
Speaker 3: Texas hosting Clemson, Ohio State hosting Tennessee, Penn State hosting SMU,
Speaker 3: Notre Dame hosting Indiana. So and for what it's worth,
Speaker 3: the expansion of the playoff that we've talked about in
Speaker 3: recent weeks because these spring meetings have been going on,
Speaker 3: and the College Football Playoff, I guess they had their
Speaker 3: meeting in Dallas a few weeks back, and you know,
Speaker 3: the SEC and the Big Ten are fighting for four
Speaker 3: automatic spots and an expanded playoff that it would go
Speaker 3: to twelve from twelve to sixteen. And that's when the
Speaker 3: whole thing got brought up about considering television viewership as
Speaker 3: a criteria to get in, which is crazy and I
Speaker 3: don't I truly don't believe that'll ever be a part
Speaker 3: of the equation. But nonetheless, all the talks we've had
Speaker 3: about changes to the playoff that wouldn't be until the
Speaker 3: following season, so not this upcoming season, but the one
Speaker 3: after that. And Ross Tellinger of Yahoo Sports. He has
Speaker 3: a good write up over at Yahoo just about how
Speaker 3: they're still currently it's still currently unknown as far as
Speaker 3: what the future holds, because the latest reports were that
Speaker 3: there's a little resistance. Right there are people that are
Speaker 3: that are fighting back, saying, hey, why would we just
Speaker 3: agree to give four spots to the Big ten automatically?
Speaker 3: In four spots to the SEC automatically? If they're as
Speaker 3: good as they claim they are, then they shouldn't have
Speaker 3: any issue getting for or more in But just to
Speaker 3: give it to them regardless is stupid. Not saying that
Speaker 3: they that it won't end up playing out that way
Speaker 3: because it won't shock me if it will. But I'm
Speaker 3: happy to see that there's some resistance because if you're
Speaker 3: the Big twelve and you're the ACC, I mean, why
Speaker 3: would you agree to that. I don't know what kind
Speaker 3: of leverage you have and what you could really do
Speaker 3: to far, you know, to hold lot, you know, to
Speaker 3: fight this, but I mean make them earn it. I mean,
Speaker 3: and again it's not I don't say that to insinuate
Speaker 3: that they won't earn it, but just to automatically know
Speaker 3: that half the field is Big ten in SEC before
Speaker 3: anybody's played a single game. It's just fundamentally stupid. It
Speaker 3: just is, I mean, it's weak. So we'll see what
Speaker 3: ends up shaken out. But another thing that I believe
Speaker 3: has kind of backfired a little bit. If you remember,
Speaker 3: there was the Commission on College Sports that that Donald
Speaker 3: Trump had mentioned after meeting with Nick Saban, and Saban
Speaker 3: was going to be the leader along with a former
Speaker 3: Texas Texas Tech booster who's now created their collective. I
Speaker 3: can't think of the guy's name, but either way, that
Speaker 3: went from being something everybody wanted to happen to now
Speaker 3: not so much. And wouldn't be a shocker to me
Speaker 3: if there's now some cold feet about actually having this,
Speaker 3: because it wouldn't be something that's just catered to the
Speaker 3: Big ten in the SEC, like Greg Sankie wouldn't be
Speaker 3: running the show. It would be it would be it
Speaker 3: would be people in place that would look out for
Speaker 3: the greater good of the entire sport, not just one
Speaker 3: league or another league. And again I don't even mean
Speaker 3: to to fault guys like Greg Sank, but his job
Speaker 3: is to specifically look out for his league and not
Speaker 3: worry about what happens to anybody else. So why would
Speaker 3: I mean the notion that everyone can collectively be unbiased
Speaker 3: and not let, you know, things get in the way
Speaker 3: of these big decisions. Like it's just it's it's not
Speaker 3: even a criticism, it's just human nature, Like you would
Speaker 3: need someone who does not in any way like Saban
Speaker 3: shouldn't even really technically, I respect Saban a lot, don't
Speaker 3: think there's anybody better to speak about college football than him.
Speaker 3: But he's biased. That's not a criticism, it's a fact.
Speaker 3: He coached at Alabama for however many years that clearly
Speaker 3: he's gonna always just side with the SEC based off
Speaker 3: of benefit of the doubt and previous history, which those
Speaker 3: things do matter, but it shouldn't have any any factor
Speaker 3: in how somebody or how a tournament is put together,
Speaker 3: like a playoff racket is put together based off just.
Speaker 2: We're gonna you know.
Speaker 3: But with the football it's different though, because you only
Speaker 3: played twelve regular season games and you can have a
Speaker 3: lot of teams with the same record, but you know,
Speaker 3: it's impossible to truly know where how these teams stack
Speaker 3: up against each other, because again, you don't play in
Speaker 3: the same conference. And what we learned last year, which
Speaker 3: I'm not really sure how you get around that, but
Speaker 3: what we learned last year is that you can play
Speaker 3: in the Big Ten or even in the SEC. And
Speaker 3: because there's so many teams in these leagues now, you
Speaker 3: have no control if you end up getting a really
Speaker 3: tough schedule or you don't like Indiana. Last year, Indiana
Speaker 3: played too. Indiana was probably not nearly as good as
Speaker 3: they were ranked, but Indiana's schedule played out to where
Speaker 3: they really didn't have that many opportunities to go get
Speaker 3: big time wins. The only team that beat them in
Speaker 3: the regular season was Ohio State, who ended up winning
Speaker 3: the national championship, but on their schedule going into the season,
Speaker 3: they played the two teams that had just played for
Speaker 3: the national championship the year prior, in Washington and Michigan.
Speaker 2: They beat both of them. So I don't see us.
Speaker 3: Ever in a situation where we're not yelling about the
Speaker 3: college football Playoff either needing to be fixed or somebody,
Speaker 3: you know, not getting a fair look because of conference
Speaker 3: affiliation and as much as that'll be annoying to people
Speaker 3: like myself, it's probably good for college football because people
Speaker 3: are talking about it and how the playoff itself even
Speaker 3: before it went to twelve and it was at four
Speaker 3: that absolutely it enhanced the regular season because now you
Speaker 3: know you're alive for a longer amount of time to
Speaker 3: potentially get there, whereas before, I mean, you could lose
Speaker 3: a game and it was pretty clear even if you
Speaker 3: were a really good team, yeah, you're not going to
Speaker 3: be able to play for a national championship now after
Speaker 3: week three. Now, a part of me said that that
Speaker 3: always made the regular season super special in college football
Speaker 3: because every single week mattered, and if you slip up
Speaker 3: and you've got big aspirations, that slip up could really
Speaker 3: cost you. And I do think regular season games to
Speaker 3: an extent no longer have that same value, but I
Speaker 3: do think it's still a plus. It's still a plus
Speaker 3: rather than a you know, it's more beneficial to have
Speaker 3: the inclusion to where everybody is feeling alive and discussing
Speaker 3: potential playoff scenarios rather than just knowing, hey, a Week
Speaker 3: three loss essentially ends the team's potential chances. All right,
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Speaker 3: here on a beautiful Thursday afternoon.
Speaker 2: Appreciate you hanging out with us.
Speaker 3: I don't know about you, but when it comes to burgers,
Speaker 3: I'm a big burger guy. But this might make me
Speaker 3: sound less sophisticated, not that anybody really has ever probably
Speaker 3: viewed me as somebody that's sophisticated. But if I'm thinking
Speaker 3: about getting a burger Austin, yeah, I'm I'm more so
Speaker 3: inclined to hit like a burger chain fast food, like
Speaker 3: I'll get a burger, I'll get a burger at a restaurant.
Speaker 3: But maybe, you know, maybe it's just me having white
Speaker 3: trash taste buds or white trash sack pallette palette like
Speaker 3: you give me like a top shelf burger at a nice,
Speaker 3: nice restaurant here in town, like one of the one
Speaker 3: of the nice places that gets really propped up during
Speaker 3: like Burger Week that we have around here. Whenever that is,
Speaker 3: I'm sure there burger's fine.
Speaker 2: I would enjoy it. But if I'm like picking, I wouldn't.
Speaker 3: I mean, I might just go get a double cheeseburger
Speaker 3: for McDonald's or you know, maybe get a double, maybe
Speaker 3: get a whopper or something like that's much cheaper. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that and I can I can be satisfied with that.
Speaker 3: So anyways, we've got an updated list here of the
Speaker 3: top ten burger chains in the United States. And I
Speaker 3: refuse to believe this list is real, but it's at YELP,
Speaker 3: so I guess it's real. But they these there's burger
Speaker 3: chains that that I mean, do we even have any
Speaker 3: of these around here? Like I'll start probably, I'll start
Speaker 3: with number ten. We'll go down the list. Red Robin,
Speaker 3: we have one that I know of. Yeah, it's been
Speaker 3: a while since I've had some Red Robin, but it is.
Speaker 3: It's all right if I remember. And but to me,
Speaker 3: like Red Robin is more of like the sit down
Speaker 3: restaurant to where yes, it is known for their burgers,
Speaker 3: but to me, that's a fast casual place. Yeah, and
Speaker 3: again I'm sure their burger's fine. But like if I
Speaker 3: could bottom, if I could get the Red Robin burger,
Speaker 3: if I could get a burger from Culver's, I would
Speaker 3: probably take the burger from Culver's right same.
Speaker 2: Now, have you ever heard of mu yah burgers, fries
Speaker 2: and shakes?
Speaker 5: No, I can't say I have me either.
Speaker 2: There are number nine way back? Is it number eight?
Speaker 5: It doesn't ring a bell.
Speaker 3: Five guys burgers and fries we have? We like five guys, Yeah,
Speaker 3: me too. It's really expensive. But and again, like for example,
Speaker 3: five guys is probably viewed as a better burger than
Speaker 3: what you're gonna get at a McDonald's.
Speaker 2: A Burger King, or maybe even a Windy's.
Speaker 3: But I would prefer the cheaper that is probably not
Speaker 3: as popular, just because again, like I know, I know
Speaker 3: what I like, and I don't need to be trying
Speaker 3: all kinds of different burgers if I know I'm going
Speaker 3: to get a burger if I want, if I'm in
Speaker 3: the mood for a burger, I know where I'm going
Speaker 3: and it's probably not going to be at a sit down restaurant.
Speaker 3: But yeah, five guys is good, really expensive, yeah.
Speaker 4: I love the memes where it says, like, guys, I'm
Speaker 4: going into five guys with seventeen dollars, what do you
Speaker 4: think I can get? And people reply a nice smell.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they might just let you hang out for a
Speaker 2: few minutes.
Speaker 5: You'll have a bag of peanuts.
Speaker 3: I've yet to try this place, but it's it's There's
Speaker 3: at least a couple of them that I know of
Speaker 3: in the area. One is actually in in you know,
Speaker 3: near my neck of the woods in Bullet County, but
Speaker 3: Freddy's Frozen Custard and Steak Burgers. Haven't had anything from there.
Speaker 3: But anybody I know that's tried it really really liked it.
Speaker 2: You've heard of it.
Speaker 5: I've heard of it, but I've never tried it.
Speaker 2: What about island restaurants? Never heard of that?
Speaker 5: Nope.
Speaker 3: All right, so let's get to the top four. Here's yeah,
Speaker 3: four is Culvers, and there's a Culvers in me. I
Speaker 3: probably haven't eaten Culvers in ten plus years. Culver's is good, Yeah,
Speaker 3: it is. Culver's is one of those places that again,
Speaker 3: been a long time packed. Yeah, been a long time
Speaker 3: since I've had it. But whenever I do, I'm like,
Speaker 3: you know, what I should. I should keep this in
Speaker 3: mind if I am going to get fast food, because
Speaker 3: it's really good.
Speaker 5: You haven't had Culvers in ten years?
Speaker 2: I bet I haven't had cold So they.
Speaker 5: Had culver Is in like four weeks.
Speaker 2: I mean, there's not that many of them around, are there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's like two or three. I think there's one in.
Speaker 3: There's one that's in I guess. It's on Preston Highway,
Speaker 3: not far from where I'm at. And it's actually I
Speaker 3: feel like it was one of the first that opened
Speaker 3: up here in the area, and it's it's always crowded,
Speaker 3: but it's it's not visible from from from the main
Speaker 3: road to where like I don't really see it. Therefore
Speaker 3: it's and honest, I don't eat a lot of fast
Speaker 3: food anyway.
Speaker 4: There's one on Hearst board, and there's one out at
Speaker 4: the Simpsonville mall the outs.
Speaker 3: I'm trying to make a mental note here that like,
Speaker 3: next time you're gonna get fast food, Nick, go to
Speaker 3: Culver's because it's good and it's again it's.
Speaker 2: Not too far away. Have you had shake Shack that's
Speaker 2: at number three.
Speaker 5: I haven't had the shake Shack yet.
Speaker 2: Either, but it's really popular.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: And then the Habit Burger Grill. Don't even know what
Speaker 2: that is?
Speaker 5: How is it?
Speaker 3: I mean again, I guess to be Yeah, to be
Speaker 3: a chain, you can you can have a ton of
Speaker 3: restaurants and they can all just be in one designated
Speaker 3: region of the country to where none of us would know.
Speaker 3: But I'm looking at the Habit Burger and Grill website logo,
Speaker 3: I don't recognize any of this, and it looks like,
Speaker 3: you know, most of them are. Yeah, they're the closest
Speaker 3: one to us. Looks like it is in let's see,
Speaker 3: South Carolina, so not not not close at all. And
Speaker 3: then there's a ton of them on the west coast,
Speaker 3: so good call there. That's that's where they're. That's where there.
Speaker 3: Most of their locations are very very far from us.
Speaker 3: And then at number one, this place is really popular
Speaker 3: in and out.
Speaker 5: Oh yes, I was hoping you'd say that, And I'm not.
Speaker 3: At all surprised it in and out, in and out
Speaker 3: is uh is number one, because it's just I mean.
Speaker 5: I've got a very special place in my heart.
Speaker 3: So I mean, there are people who I've heard I
Speaker 3: can't think of, I think of who it was I
Speaker 3: had a buddy who doesn't go to the West coast.
Speaker 2: Who is it?
Speaker 3: It's gonnadrap me crazy and it's totally not relevant. But anyways,
Speaker 3: it's not uncommon for people who end up in an
Speaker 3: area where there isn't in and out, they'll they'll as
Speaker 3: soon as they land, that's first thing they do is
Speaker 3: to go get in and out because they like it
Speaker 3: that much and they don't get there's not any near
Speaker 3: where they live. So it's it's clearly really really popular.
Speaker 3: I just you know, I've never actually had it. You
Speaker 3: have anue and you you vouched for, you vouch for
Speaker 3: the hype.
Speaker 4: Every time I go, like out West, I have to go.
Speaker 4: I still dream about those animal style fries dog and
Speaker 4: they can is.
Speaker 2: The animal sauce?
Speaker 5: Is that?
Speaker 2: Or animal style? Is that like basically their version of
Speaker 2: like Big Mac sauce.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and there it's their sort of special sauce.
Speaker 2: Gotcha.
Speaker 4: They also keep it simple because there's not a lot
Speaker 4: of things on the menu. But if you know they
Speaker 4: got they have that, they got that secret menu and
Speaker 4: that's how you ask for the animals, because you can't
Speaker 4: just look for animal style fries on the menu.
Speaker 5: God to ask for it and they.
Speaker 4: Also give like there's different code names and make it
Speaker 4: cute for like just a vegetarian burger or just a
Speaker 4: burger with no bun, milkshakes a different a lot of
Speaker 4: different milkshake options. And that was always when it first
Speaker 4: came out, like that was a place to work. Everybody
Speaker 4: wanted to go work at In and Out Burger. I
Speaker 4: remember standing in line one summer for like two three
Speaker 4: hours at like a hiring job fair because I wanted
Speaker 4: to work at In and Out Burger. It's like apparently
Speaker 4: the greatest thing ever. And one of my old managers
Speaker 4: at the BATS work there, and he was about to
Speaker 4: graduate or after he graduated, they had like a position
Speaker 4: open and for him and like san Antonio running his
Speaker 4: own store, and he says to this day he probably
Speaker 4: should have never left, because In and Out was the
Speaker 4: greatest job he's ever had.
Speaker 2: I'm looking at their map here.
Speaker 3: They've got eighty locations in the San Francisco area. One
Speaker 3: hundred and eighty five in the LA.
Speaker 5: Area, yeah, big big West coast.
Speaker 3: Yeah, nineteen in Vegas, And it looks like the closest
Speaker 3: one to us is there's forty three locations in Dallas
Speaker 3: other than that they've made here in Arizona. In Arizona,
Speaker 3: there are a total of thirty five.
Speaker 5: Oh wow, that's a lot. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So yeah, outside of outside of LA.
Speaker 3: And San Francisco, there are more in the Arizona, Phoenix area,
Speaker 3: Tucson area than anywhere else. So my people, Yeah, I've
Speaker 3: not had it, but eventually I'm going to try it,
Speaker 3: and I hope that it can live up to the hepe.
Speaker 3: But I've not heard from anybody that said it wasn't
Speaker 3: really really really good. Now I will say this.
Speaker 2: Is just reminded.
Speaker 3: I was thinking about people who when they go to
Speaker 3: the West Coast, they make sure they get it in and
Speaker 3: out before they head back to this side of the
Speaker 3: country because there's not any here. My wife's uncle, I
Speaker 3: guess my wife's great uncle. I guess that would make
Speaker 3: him my great uncle in law. He lives in LA.
Speaker 3: He was in town last week for a while. We
Speaker 3: got to catch up with him, and I'd forgotten it
Speaker 3: anytime he comes back to Louisville, which is where he's
Speaker 3: from originally. He's lived in LA for a long long time,
Speaker 3: but he as soon as he gets off, as soon
Speaker 3: as he leaves the airport, he goes to white Castle.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and he goes to white Castle like four
Speaker 3: times while he's here. He is he has he has
Speaker 3: actually taken some if he's packed some up in a
Speaker 3: suitcase and taking him home. And you know, I mean
Speaker 3: we're talking like it not in his carry on, but
Speaker 3: in like you know, in in his uh, his his
Speaker 3: bag that he checks. And obviously it smells like onions
Speaker 3: when he gets his clothes out. But he said it's
Speaker 3: well worth it because he just and you can you
Speaker 3: can buy white Castle at like.
Speaker 2: At the grocery store. But it's not the same.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 3: I've never seen any fast food or even a cat
Speaker 3: even a fast casual restaurant, if they've got a food
Speaker 3: item that they offer frozen in a restaurant or i'm sorry,
Speaker 3: at a grocery store, or even like a sauce, it's
Speaker 3: never the same.
Speaker 4: Yeah, like we used to we used to Chick fil
Speaker 4: A sauces. If you buy those, they are the same.
Speaker 2: Well that makes sense because it's like there, well Chick
Speaker 2: fil As is different.
Speaker 3: But like Taco Bell sauce at a at a at
Speaker 3: a grocery store, it's got the taco bell like logo
Speaker 3: on it.
Speaker 2: But it's not the same.
Speaker 5: Yeah, in the seasoning it's not the.
Speaker 3: Same, and you can't recreate it. And uh yeah, so
Speaker 3: shout out to shout out to in and out and right.
Speaker 2: White Castle is is. I don't eat that very often,
Speaker 2: but man, it's good.
Speaker 3: They had a movie made after. Yeah, white Castle iconic.
Speaker 3: White Castle's good stuff. But again that's something like we
Speaker 3: just they're they're all over the place here near us.
Speaker 3: But if you are somebody that's probably on the West coast,
Speaker 3: you don't, you don't, you don't get it.
Speaker 2: So anyways, let's get to a quick break. We'll come back.
Speaker 2: We got another hour and a half before we get
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