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<v Speaker 1>Five minutes after good afternoon. I'm John Caldera in for

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<v Speaker 1>a vacationing Mandy Connell. Give me a call three oh three,

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<v Speaker 1>seven to one, three eighty five eighty five. So I've

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<v Speaker 1>had this brilliant idea. The NFL is all about equity.

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<v Speaker 1>You see them talking about diversity. You see it on

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<v Speaker 1>the helmets, you see it on the sidelines. You see

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<v Speaker 1>all these little slogans. Well, that's that's wonderful. That's wonderful.

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<v Speaker 1>They have rules such as, if you're going to hire

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<v Speaker 1>a new coach, you have to have to interview a

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<v Speaker 1>coach of color. That's right, you have to. You have

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<v Speaker 1>to look at someone who is a minority to be

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<v Speaker 1>your head coach. It's it's the rule. Even if there's

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<v Speaker 1>no one you want to hire of color, it doesn't matter.

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<v Speaker 1>So my thought was this, you know what, if the

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<v Speaker 1>NFL truly leaves in diversity, then it should have some

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<v Speaker 1>sort of racial goals for who's on the field, that

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<v Speaker 1>is their team. Every team should represent the same percentage

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<v Speaker 1>as as the American society. You know, maybe in Denver,

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<v Speaker 1>since it's for Colorado, we take with Colorado statistics and

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<v Speaker 1>we have to have X number of Caucasian players. The

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<v Speaker 1>next would be what like twenty percent Hispanic players and

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<v Speaker 1>maybe seven percent black players. That would be the way,

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<v Speaker 1>that would be the way we should we should mandate it.

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<v Speaker 1>Hollywood has something called diversity writers. A diversity writer is

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<v Speaker 1>a contract writer that says, if you're going to do

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<v Speaker 1>this movie, and you want me to start it, you're

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<v Speaker 1>going to have to hire so many minorities throughout the

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<v Speaker 1>entire process. Means we need a certain number of minority

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<v Speaker 1>makeup artists and stuntmen and line producers and gaffers and

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<v Speaker 1>lighting guys and sound guys and prop masters because we

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<v Speaker 1>want to we want more equity. Well, since the NFL

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<v Speaker 1>seems to be buying into that every place but on

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<v Speaker 1>the field, my simple suggestion is they do it on

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<v Speaker 1>the field. There has to be a racial proportion on

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<v Speaker 1>the field that matches American society at large. How could

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<v Speaker 1>you not support this idea? What are you a bigot

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<v Speaker 1>or something?

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<v Speaker 2>Three?

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<v Speaker 1>Or three seven to one three five? Let's go to

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<v Speaker 1>the phones. Hey, Mike, welcome, you're with John Kelderol Well, Mike, you.

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<v Speaker 3>Can hear me, I can hi, So you know, as

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<v Speaker 3>the topic of equity comes up, and actually I like

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<v Speaker 3>the idea of people reimbursing for they're paid education when

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<v Speaker 3>they make a ton of money.

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<v Speaker 2>But today.

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<v Speaker 3>Equity is not equity. It's the reinvigoration of segregation. It's

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<v Speaker 3>let's be different and be called out separate. And I

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<v Speaker 3>think it's the worst movement. It's more divisive now than

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<v Speaker 3>it's ever been because it's segregate us and let us

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<v Speaker 3>blm all these things. Let's be different and be called

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<v Speaker 3>different and be separated. That's what is brewing.

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<v Speaker 1>So I believe identity politics in America is the most

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<v Speaker 1>dangerous social movement of our time.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, that.

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<v Speaker 1>We have a society that we have built over the

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<v Speaker 1>course of two hundred and fifty years where you are

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<v Speaker 1>who you make yourself, that you come from, wherever you

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<v Speaker 1>come from, and through your talents and yes, a certain

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<v Speaker 1>amount of luck, you create your own biography. And you're

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<v Speaker 1>not your skin color, you are not your genitals, You're

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<v Speaker 1>not what you think your genitals should be. You are

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<v Speaker 1>what you create yourself. And identity politics turns that on

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<v Speaker 1>its head and says, no, you are your skin tone,

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<v Speaker 1>you are your genitals. You are what you do in bed.

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<v Speaker 1>That's who you are, not your accomplishments, not what you create.

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<v Speaker 1>It's this, and furthermore, we will give you extra societal

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<v Speaker 1>prestige points depending on how many victim boxes you can choose.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you're a woman, you can say, oh, I've

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<v Speaker 1>been discriminated as being a woman, but I'm also a

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<v Speaker 1>black woman. Oh that's good. Then it's two. Well I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a black woman who's a lesbian, Well that's three. While

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a left handed black lesbian. Well that's four. Well

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<v Speaker 1>I'm also in a wheelchair. Well that's five. And what

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<v Speaker 1>you end up doing is people's status increases by how

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<v Speaker 1>much they claim victimhood, rather than your status increasing by

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<v Speaker 1>your accomplishment, by what you've created, exactly. And I just

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<v Speaker 1>find that fact that to be so un American and

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<v Speaker 1>so dangerous and so cancerous to the human soul.

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<v Speaker 3>Amen, we have a society where you can work hard

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<v Speaker 3>and do whatever you want and stop using your race

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<v Speaker 3>as a crutch. And actually it's only aggravating whites at

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<v Speaker 3>this point because of exactly what you're talking about. And

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<v Speaker 3>you know what, you have the right to go out

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<v Speaker 3>out and work hard and do what you want and

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<v Speaker 3>exactly make your biography about what you do and.

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<v Speaker 1>Not your crutch, so right now, mind you, that doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>mean we don't work to make sure everyone has a

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<v Speaker 1>shot at writing their own biography. It doesn't mean we

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<v Speaker 1>stand for anything that puts hurdles up in front of it,

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<v Speaker 1>and we've got a history full of hurdles. But to

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<v Speaker 1>turn it into say you are, imagine what that does

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<v Speaker 1>to a poor child's mind. You go, you are a

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<v Speaker 1>black kid, so you're already born a victim, and it

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<v Speaker 1>is so systemic you have no choice but to embrace

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<v Speaker 1>your victimhood. What exactly the hell does that do to

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<v Speaker 1>a child's soul, to their self esteem, to their sense

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<v Speaker 1>of self, to their ability to self direct a life.

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<v Speaker 1>It is sick. It is child abuse.

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<v Speaker 3>And who wants to be granted a job based on

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<v Speaker 3>affirmative action. You weren't the best applicants, you weren't the

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<v Speaker 3>best resume, but we had to talk to you and

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<v Speaker 3>we got to do something now.

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<v Speaker 1>And yeah, it's imagine going, imagine going to your black

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<v Speaker 1>doctor and going, hmmm, are you here because you're good?

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<v Speaker 1>Or is it here because you're your skin and color?

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<v Speaker 3>And that exactly that.

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<v Speaker 1>Only perpetuates racism. All right, thanks for the call. We're

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<v Speaker 1>on the same page. I appreciate it. I say we

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<v Speaker 1>we demand parody, equitable racial parody on the Denver Broncos team,

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<v Speaker 1>and then we'll see how they do tomorrow. I'm John Caldera.

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<v Speaker 1>Three oh three, seven to one, three eight five, eight five,

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<v Speaker 1>keep it here. You're on KOWA eighteen minutes after good

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<v Speaker 1>even good evening, good afternoon. I'm John Caldera. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>I I enjoy I hate to say it, watching Saturday

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<v Speaker 1>Night Lives Weekend Update. They're socialist hacks, I get it,

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<v Speaker 1>but they're often pretty funny and I enjoy it and

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<v Speaker 1>tuned in to watch it. Sad I watch it on YouTube,

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<v Speaker 1>and I watched it and something really struck me. The

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<v Speaker 1>host of the fake newscast did one of his fake stories,

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<v Speaker 1>and then he went into a joke about the killer

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<v Speaker 1>of the United Healthcare CEO. You know this terrible assassination

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<v Speaker 1>that happened in Manhattan just a little while ago. And

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<v Speaker 1>what was weird about it was he put up the

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<v Speaker 1>picture of the killer and said the guy's name. But

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<v Speaker 1>before he could get his joke out, the crowd erupted

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<v Speaker 1>in applause. Let me say this again. The crowd erupted

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<v Speaker 1>in applause and excitement in what I took as support

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<v Speaker 1>for this murderer. It was really perverse. So let me

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<v Speaker 1>see if I can play this this FORO. You listen

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<v Speaker 1>to it as he as he finishes one joke and

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<v Speaker 1>then he's gonna go in and go to the next one.

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<v Speaker 1>This last joke has Trump and Musk and P Diddy

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<v Speaker 1>in it. Let's listen in.

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<v Speaker 4>Luigi Mangi, Yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Definitely woo.

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<v Speaker 4>You're wouing for justice, right, Luigi Mai dropped his extradition

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<v Speaker 4>fight and was flown.

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<v Speaker 1>From all right, let me let me just do that

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<v Speaker 1>one again because I just found that so bizarre and weird.

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<v Speaker 1>You you hear the crowd's reaction as if, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>as if some famous star just sat down next to

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<v Speaker 1>him and you know, and they were all excited. So

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<v Speaker 1>Scarlett Johansson happens to be the guy's wife sat down

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<v Speaker 1>next to him. I'm sure the crowd will go, wow,

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<v Speaker 1>look this is someone we love. Yay, And that's exactly

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<v Speaker 1>what I heard from from this. Let's skip through that

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<v Speaker 1>part here. Oh what did I do? I hit something else? Good? Gosh, good, golly,

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<v Speaker 1>miss Molly. Anyway, that's what I found so very bizarre.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's see I can do this again.

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<v Speaker 4>Here, Donald Trump get re elected president and Elon Musk

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<v Speaker 4>appoint himself co president. I listen to this next year,

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<v Speaker 4>next cheer. Here we will see all three of those guys.

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<v Speaker 4>Atl's fifth anniversary.

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<v Speaker 1>That's funny, all right? Here comes the what it got me?

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<v Speaker 4>Luigi Mangione?

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<v Speaker 1>Drop? What what was that? What was that? People are

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<v Speaker 1>screaming in support of a murderer? Does? Does that not

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<v Speaker 1>scare you? Let me add to this. Here's an AP story.

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<v Speaker 1>Most Americans blame insurance profits and denials alongside the killer

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<v Speaker 1>in the United Healthcare CEO death poll fines. Here's the

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<v Speaker 1>story from the AP. Most Americans believe health insurance profits

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<v Speaker 1>and coverage denials share responsibility for killing of United Healthcare

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<v Speaker 1>ce although not as much as the person who pulled

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<v Speaker 1>the trigger. According to a new poll, What upside down Bizarro?

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<v Speaker 1>Violent world? Are we living in? The health insurance companies

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<v Speaker 1>are responsible, but not as much for the killing of

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<v Speaker 1>this person whoa But it just gets weirder. In a

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<v Speaker 1>survey from narc at the University of Chicago, about eight

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<v Speaker 1>in ten US adults, eighty percent of us said the

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<v Speaker 1>person who committed the killing. This guy named Luigi Mangione,

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<v Speaker 1>the person who committed the killing, has quote a great

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<v Speaker 1>deal or a moderate amount of responsibility for the December

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<v Speaker 1>fourth shooting. Xxcuse me, I've seen the videotape. This one

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<v Speaker 1>individual pulls out a handgun, shoots this man several times

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<v Speaker 1>in the back, and he has a moderate amount of

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<v Speaker 1>responsibility for the shooting of Brian Thompson. And then they

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<v Speaker 1>go on. Despite that. Some have cast Luigi Mangione, the

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<v Speaker 1>twenty six year old suspect charged with the murder, as

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<v Speaker 1>a heroic figure in the aftermath of his arrest, which

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<v Speaker 1>gave rise to an outpouring of grievances about insurance companies.

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<v Speaker 1>Police say the word delay, deny, and depose were scrawled

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<v Speaker 1>on the ammunition investigators found at the scene, echoing a

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<v Speaker 1>phrase commonly used to describe ensure tactics to avoid paying claims.

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<v Speaker 1>Is this how we deal with things? Now? This is

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<v Speaker 1>a outburst, a temper tantrum, going after a single person

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<v Speaker 1>for for costs of health care? Might I try something else?

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<v Speaker 1>The cost of healthcare has been piling up ever since Obamacare.

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<v Speaker 1>Obamacare causes health insurance companies to be smack dab in

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<v Speaker 1>the middle of what they must cover and what they

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<v Speaker 1>cannot cover. And if somebody shot Obama in the back

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<v Speaker 1>and the ammunition casings said deny to pose and delay

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<v Speaker 1>on it. Do you think that guy would be getting cheers. No,

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<v Speaker 1>he'd be condemned the way he should be. This is

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<v Speaker 1>truly perverse. Help me understand it. Three oh three seven one,

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<v Speaker 1>Keep it here, you're on cue b bump, bump, bump bump.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm waiting for this to turn into something. Oh, Van Morrison,

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<v Speaker 1>there we go. My favorite concert film is The Band's

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<v Speaker 1>Last Waltz, and Van Morrison plays on it and he

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<v Speaker 1>seems like a real jerk. Neil Young plays in that

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<v Speaker 1>concert as well. I never really liked Neil Young, and

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<v Speaker 1>he had something hanging out of his nose for his

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<v Speaker 1>entire performance, so I just couldn't watch anything other than that.

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<v Speaker 1>But it was the best concert film ever. Oh the Band. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm John Caldera. Give me a call. Three or three

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<v Speaker 1>seven one, three eight five eighty five. I just gave

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<v Speaker 1>you the poll numbers that eighty percent of Americans think

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<v Speaker 1>that the killer is moderately responsible for the killing. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>you have a disagreement, you can just go ahead and

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<v Speaker 1>shoot somebody in the middle of the street. Remember when

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<v Speaker 1>Trump said, Hey, I'm president, I could shoot somebody in

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<v Speaker 1>technically he's right. While he's president, doesn't mean that there

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<v Speaker 1>won't be a political fallout and doesn't mean he won't

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<v Speaker 1>be arrested afterwards, doesn't mean he won't be impeached and removed.

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<v Speaker 1>But here people are happy that this CEO is assassinated.

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<v Speaker 1>I played for you a clip from Saturday Night Live

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<v Speaker 1>went wild, like like they just saw Eric Clapton walk

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<v Speaker 1>on stage. All right, let's go to some phone calls.

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<v Speaker 1>Three h three seven to one, three eighty five, eighty five,

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<v Speaker 5>Hi John. I agree too that it is absurd that

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<v Speaker 5>think of when there's a shooting with the gun gun

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<v Speaker 5>control people point to the gun to the gun seller

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's the same sort of craziness. Listen to this

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<v Speaker 1>from the AP story. About seven in ten adults, seventy

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<v Speaker 1>percent of us say that denials for health care coverage

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<v Speaker 1>by insurance companies or the profits made by health insurance

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<v Speaker 1>companies also bear at least quote a moderate amount of

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<v Speaker 1>responsibility for the man's death. Younger Americans are particularly likely

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<v Speaker 1>to see the murder as the result of a confluence

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<v Speaker 1>of forces rather than just one person's actions. This is

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<v Speaker 1>terrifying to me. This is terrifying that we have raised

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<v Speaker 1>our kids to believe that people aren't solely responsible for

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<v Speaker 1>their own actions. But there's some sort of societal justification

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<v Speaker 1>if if you don't like the company you're doing business with.

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<v Speaker 1>I help me, help me understand this. I mean, this

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<v Speaker 1>over saying that for for effect. When people think, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he's you know, he's mostly responsible for that, but the

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<v Speaker 1>guy's own company is moderately responsible for his death.

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<v Speaker 5>Wow, lack of personal accountability is touching all aspects of

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<v Speaker 1>And I hate to say this, but I I know

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<v Speaker 1>it to be true in my bones. There are single

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<v Speaker 1>payer healthcare advocates, government controlled healthcare advocates who are rubbing

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<v Speaker 1>their hands at this murder. They're going here, we go

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<v Speaker 1>just as we planned. Because what happens is they create

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<v Speaker 1>these laws that make private businesses look like the bad guys.

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<v Speaker 1>So they put in they put in Obamacare takes away

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<v Speaker 1>pre existing conditions and using Medicaid money to do this,

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<v Speaker 1>forces insurance companies to accept all this stuff, which means

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to cost us a lot of money. And therefore,

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<v Speaker 1>who's going to get blamed Not Obama, not Congress, not

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<v Speaker 1>the government for creating this system, but the healthcare companies,

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<v Speaker 1>which are now basically just utilities run by the government.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no not that big of a difference between United

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<v Speaker 1>Healthcare and Excel Energy. They're basically close to monopolies, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's created by government policy. Now, if these people who

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<v Speaker 1>are pulled we're more economically and politically intuned, maybe they'd

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<v Speaker 1>say that, yes, the shooter is mostly responsible, but Obama

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<v Speaker 1>deserves at least a moderate amount of blame for this.

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<v Speaker 1>None of them say that it's the company. Let me

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<v Speaker 1>give you one more case in point Colorado has something

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<v Speaker 1>called a hospital bed tax. We never got to vote

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<v Speaker 1>on it, so they call it a fee. By calling

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<v Speaker 1>it a fee, Sorry about that van who lost you

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<v Speaker 1>by calling it a fee. People didn't have to vote

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<v Speaker 1>on it. So when you go to a hospital, you

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<v Speaker 1>are paying an extra tax when you stay over at

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<v Speaker 1>a hospital. And this tax, which they like to call

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<v Speaker 1>a fee, is used to pay for Medicaid for Obamacare,

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<v Speaker 1>so your cost at the hospital goes up. But by now,

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<v Speaker 1>listen carefully, this is right. So you didn't get to

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<v Speaker 1>vote on this tax increase. The Colorado legislature passed it.

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<v Speaker 1>Governor hicken Luperter signed it into law, knowing full well

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<v Speaker 1>it would never pass at the ballot box. And when

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<v Speaker 1>you get your hospital bill, by law, they cannot line

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<v Speaker 1>item that tax. So you're looking at your hospital bill

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<v Speaker 1>and you go, man, this is expensive and there's nothing

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<v Speaker 1>that says yes, this five percent here, that's a government

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<v Speaker 1>tax that you didn't get to vote on. No, there's

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<v Speaker 1>nothing there on your invoice. By law, hospitals need to

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<v Speaker 1>hide this bed tax in your bill. They cannot line

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<v Speaker 1>item it. Instead of mandating that at be there, they

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<v Speaker 1>mandate they hide it. So who are you angry at

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<v Speaker 1>and you get out of the hospital and the cost

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<v Speaker 1>is outrageous. You look at the bill. Who do you

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<v Speaker 1>get angry at. You don't get angry at the Colorado

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<v Speaker 1>legislature and the single payer advocates there and the guys

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<v Speaker 1>who want government control of healthcare. No, you get angry

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<v Speaker 1>at the hospital, but they're not the ones that cause

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<v Speaker 1>that increase. So you might go out and assassinate the

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<v Speaker 1>head of the hospital instead of assassinating the politician who

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<v Speaker 1>made it happen. And no, make it clear, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>advocating that, but that's how devious, deceptive, duplicitous big government

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<v Speaker 1>progressives are. And it's not by accident, it's by plan.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's why I say there are people rubbing their

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<v Speaker 1>hands together in excitement about this murder because their plan

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<v Speaker 1>is working. People are frustrated with companies that are just

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<v Speaker 1>doing what the law requires them to do now instead

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<v Speaker 1>of those who passed the outlandish laws. You remember, though,

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<v Speaker 1>don't you, that Obamacare was gonna save you money. You

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<v Speaker 1>remember the great promise of if you like your health

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<v Speaker 1>care provider, you can keep your healthcare provider. If you

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<v Speaker 1>like your doctor, you can keep your doctor. And we

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<v Speaker 1>are going to make healthcare what what's the magic word affordable?

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<v Speaker 1>It was called the health Care Affordability Act, the American

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<v Speaker 1>health Care Affordability Act. Wow. So not only are people

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<v Speaker 1>just delightfully ignorant of why the costs are so high,

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<v Speaker 1>but this has been staged in such a way that

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<v Speaker 1>you get angry at the companies, not the bureaucrats, not

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<v Speaker 1>the politicians who create the system. And now seven and

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<v Speaker 1>ten say that the insurance companies bear at least a

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<v Speaker 1>moderate amount of responsibility for this murder. Younger Americans are

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<v Speaker 1>particularly likely to see the murder as a result of

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<v Speaker 1>a confluence of forces, rather than just one person's action.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me continue from the ap story. Americans under thirty

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<v Speaker 1>are especially likely to think a mix of factors is

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<v Speaker 1>to blame for Thompson's death. They say that insurance company

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<v Speaker 1>denials and profits are about as as responsible as Thompson's

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<v Speaker 1>killer for his death. Remember, these are the people going

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<v Speaker 1>to be taking care of you in the home. Americans

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<v Speaker 1>under thirty are likely to say the insurance company is

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<v Speaker 1>as responsible as the guy who pulled the trigger. No

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<v Speaker 1>wonder they love gun control laws, No wonder they want

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<v Speaker 1>government control of everything. From birth until death, because individuals

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<v Speaker 1>are not responsible for their own actions, that the company

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<v Speaker 1>this guy worked for was as responsible as the murderer himself.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I get it. Every generation thinks the next generation

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<v Speaker 1>has messed up values. But these are dangerously messed up values.

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<v Speaker 1>Three h threety seven one three eighty five eighty five

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<v Speaker 1>young people reading from the ap story. Young people are

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<v Speaker 1>also the least likely age group to say a great

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<v Speaker 1>deal quote great deal of responsibility falls on the person

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<v Speaker 1>who committed the killing. Only four in ten say that.

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<v Speaker 1>Sixty percent of people under thirty don't believe that the

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<v Speaker 1>killer has a great deal of responsibility for the murder

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<v Speaker 1>he committed. No wonder, no wonder that people in the

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<v Speaker 1>studios watching Saturday Night Live's Weekend Update when they saw

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<v Speaker 1>this guy on the screen cheered in crazy excitement. Yeah

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<v Speaker 1>did you hear that? How else do you explain that? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Right?

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<v Speaker 1>All right? You know, I get a late night parody

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<v Speaker 1>show is made to have off color jokes. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not making anything about that. It was the reaction

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<v Speaker 1>even before they heard any joke of seeing this guy's

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<v Speaker 1>picture and the excitement that they have for him. It's

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<v Speaker 1>bizarre looking at a protester holds up a sign awaiting

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<v Speaker 1>the arrival of the killer for his arrangement at a

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<v Speaker 1>Manhattan criminal court, and the sign says innocent and proven guilty,

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<v Speaker 1>saying that he really didn't do it. Other ones holding

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<v Speaker 1>up signs that say deny, defend, depose. Yeah, just so

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<v Speaker 1>you know, your healthcare costs are gonna go skyrocketing now,

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<v Speaker 1>insurance companies, maybe they'll pay out more. What does that

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<v Speaker 1>mean that you're gonna get charged more? What I love

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<v Speaker 1>about the left, What I truly admire about the left

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<v Speaker 1>is how long term oriented they are compared to the right.

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<v Speaker 1>The right sees victories in terms of the next election. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>Trump won We he's gonna solve everything. Oh no, he's not.

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<v Speaker 1>Even if Trump was as powerful as a king in

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<v Speaker 1>of eighty years of a socialistic torrent coming down since FDR.

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<v Speaker 1>You're not going to in four years be able to

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<v Speaker 1>undo the societal change and the governmental takeover of nearly

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<v Speaker 1>every aspect of our lives in four years. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>people think that, and that's it's a good start. Don't

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<v Speaker 1>get me wrong, I'm happy, But the left thinks in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of decades Obama passed Obamacare. They're not stupid. They

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<v Speaker 1>knew full well it was only a step towards single payer,

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<v Speaker 1>government run healthcare Allah Canada. It just takes time, and

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<v Speaker 1>they keep pushing, and they keep pushing, and now the

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<v Speaker 1>architects of that plan and looking at this going here

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<v Speaker 1>is our useful idiot, as good looking young man who

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<v Speaker 1>kills healthcare executives because they're parts of the evil private

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<v Speaker 1>healthcare system. It couldn't be working out better for healthcare

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<v Speaker 1>socialists who take the very wonderful long view of societal

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<v Speaker 1>change three or three seven to one, three eight two

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<v Speaker 1>wrong on any of this? Is someone brave enough to

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<v Speaker 1>tell me that, you know, really, the healthcare companies do

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<v Speaker 1>bear irresponsibility?

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<v Speaker 1>Can can you make that argument coherently? And if you do,

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<v Speaker 1>if you believe that healthcare companies deserve responsibility partial responsibility

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<v Speaker 1>for this cold blooded murder shooting someone in the back,

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<v Speaker 1>then will you use the same logic and say that

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<v Speaker 1>governmental mandates in insurance cause this murder too, or is

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<v Speaker 1>it just one of these things. You see it the

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<v Speaker 1>way you see it, and you'll never never change. We

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<v Speaker 1>are on a path to government controlled healthcare. We basically

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<v Speaker 1>have government controlled healthcare. It's just that it is contracted

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<v Speaker 1>out to a handful of companies. Think about it in Colorado.

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<v Speaker 1>Colorado's mandates are so terrible and it is so difficult

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<v Speaker 1>to do business that insurance companies keep packing out and leaving.

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<v Speaker 1>They keep going, No, it's not worth the trouble, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not worth the mandates, it's not worth the price. We

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<v Speaker 1>can't make money here, so we're going to go someplace else,

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<v Speaker 1>which means we have fewer companies, less competition, and your

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<v Speaker 1>healthcare costs go up and go up and go up.

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<v Speaker 1>Same thing is happening in California. The mandated payouts are

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<v Speaker 1>too high. Companies cannot stay afloat, and they find it

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<v Speaker 1>which only brings up the cost. Colorado is one of

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<v Speaker 1>the most expensive places in the country to leave to live.

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<v Speaker 1>Why because government messes with everything. Government has urban growth boundaries.

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<v Speaker 1>These urban growth boundaries make it impossible to build new homes.

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<v Speaker 1>going to get really expensive. Let's see if we can

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<v Speaker 1>squeeze Dave in before we have to say goodbye.

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<v Speaker 2>Dave.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome. You're with John Caldera.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey John, real quick, look, because I know it's short

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<v Speaker 2>on time. I retired ten years ago got Obamacare for

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<v Speaker 2>my wife and myself. We were both healthy at fifty

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<v Speaker 2>one and fifty three. Our premium was seven hundred thirty

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<v Speaker 2>dollars the first year nine forty, the second fourteen hundred

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<v Speaker 2>to third, and our out of pocket was eighty five

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<v Speaker 2>hundred apiece, which means that you have to pay all

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<v Speaker 2>that money plus eighty five one hundred dollars to get

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<v Speaker 2>Obama Care to pay anything. So I was paying twenty

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<v Speaker 2>four grand a year for basically nothing. So I got

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<v Speaker 2>out of it and I went to direct pay Concierge.

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<v Speaker 2>Medicine cost myself and for my wife and myself one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and nineteen dollars a month. We get almost complete

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<v Speaker 2>care up to the point of needing to go to

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<v Speaker 2>the emergency room or hospital for anything from or doctor.

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<v Speaker 2>If there's anything extra that needs to be done by him,

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<v Speaker 2>he has a printed price sheet. And on top of that,

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<v Speaker 2>we supplemented that with catastrophic meta share, which is one

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<v Speaker 2>of the healthcare systems allowed under Obamacare, is written, it

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<v Speaker 2>cost US five hundred and sixty two dollars a month.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so let mee if I got this right, you

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<v Speaker 1>started at roughly seven hundred and forty bucks. Within a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of years that double to fourteen. And now now

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<v Speaker 1>you've you've you've junked at all. You've gone with a

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<v Speaker 1>concierge's membership type of doctor. If they need other services,

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<v Speaker 1>you pay for that, and you got catastrophic care at

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<v Speaker 1>about five hundred dollars a month. Do you feel pretty

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<v Speaker 1>good about it? I think he does feel pretty good

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<v Speaker 1>about it. That makes sense. Hey, check out the Independence

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<v Speaker 1>Institute go to thinkfreedom dot org. Bandy, thanks for letting

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<v Speaker 1>me sit in for you. I'm John Caldera and you

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<v Speaker 1>you're on Kowa
