Speaker 1: Five minutes after good afternoon. I'm John Caldera in for
Speaker 1: a vacationing Mandy Connell. Give me a call three oh three,
Speaker 1: seven to one, three eighty five eighty five. So I've
Speaker 1: had this brilliant idea. The NFL is all about equity.
Speaker 1: You see them talking about diversity. You see it on
Speaker 1: the helmets, you see it on the sidelines. You see
Speaker 1: all these little slogans. Well, that's that's wonderful. That's wonderful.
Speaker 1: They have rules such as, if you're going to hire
Speaker 1: a new coach, you have to have to interview a
Speaker 1: coach of color. That's right, you have to. You have
Speaker 1: to look at someone who is a minority to be
Speaker 1: your head coach. It's it's the rule. Even if there's
Speaker 1: no one you want to hire of color, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: So my thought was this, you know what, if the
Speaker 1: NFL truly leaves in diversity, then it should have some
Speaker 1: sort of racial goals for who's on the field, that
Speaker 1: is their team. Every team should represent the same percentage
Speaker 1: as as the American society. You know, maybe in Denver,
Speaker 1: since it's for Colorado, we take with Colorado statistics and
Speaker 1: we have to have X number of Caucasian players. The
Speaker 1: next would be what like twenty percent Hispanic players and
Speaker 1: maybe seven percent black players. That would be the way,
Speaker 1: that would be the way we should we should mandate it.
Speaker 1: Hollywood has something called diversity writers. A diversity writer is
Speaker 1: a contract writer that says, if you're going to do
Speaker 1: this movie, and you want me to start it, you're
Speaker 1: going to have to hire so many minorities throughout the
Speaker 1: entire process. Means we need a certain number of minority
Speaker 1: makeup artists and stuntmen and line producers and gaffers and
Speaker 1: lighting guys and sound guys and prop masters because we
Speaker 1: want to we want more equity. Well, since the NFL
Speaker 1: seems to be buying into that every place but on
Speaker 1: the field, my simple suggestion is they do it on
Speaker 1: the field. There has to be a racial proportion on
Speaker 1: the field that matches American society at large. How could
Speaker 1: you not support this idea? What are you a bigot
Speaker 1: or something?
Speaker 2: Three?
Speaker 1: Or three seven to one three five? Let's go to
Speaker 1: the phones. Hey, Mike, welcome, you're with John Kelderol Well, Mike, you.
Speaker 3: Can hear me, I can hi, So you know, as
Speaker 3: the topic of equity comes up, and actually I like
Speaker 3: the idea of people reimbursing for they're paid education when
Speaker 3: they make a ton of money.
Speaker 2: But today.
Speaker 3: Equity is not equity. It's the reinvigoration of segregation. It's
Speaker 3: let's be different and be called out separate. And I
Speaker 3: think it's the worst movement. It's more divisive now than
Speaker 3: it's ever been because it's segregate us and let us
Speaker 3: blm all these things. Let's be different and be called
Speaker 3: different and be separated. That's what is brewing.
Speaker 1: So I believe identity politics in America is the most
Speaker 1: dangerous social movement of our time.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, that.
Speaker 1: We have a society that we have built over the
Speaker 1: course of two hundred and fifty years where you are
Speaker 1: who you make yourself, that you come from, wherever you
Speaker 1: come from, and through your talents and yes, a certain
Speaker 1: amount of luck, you create your own biography. And you're
Speaker 1: not your skin color, you are not your genitals, You're
Speaker 1: not what you think your genitals should be. You are
Speaker 1: what you create yourself. And identity politics turns that on
Speaker 1: its head and says, no, you are your skin tone,
Speaker 1: you are your genitals. You are what you do in bed.
Speaker 1: That's who you are, not your accomplishments, not what you create.
Speaker 1: It's this, and furthermore, we will give you extra societal
Speaker 1: prestige points depending on how many victim boxes you can choose.
Speaker 1: So if you're a woman, you can say, oh, I've
Speaker 1: been discriminated as being a woman, but I'm also a
Speaker 1: black woman. Oh that's good. Then it's two. Well I'm
Speaker 1: a black woman who's a lesbian, Well that's three. While
Speaker 1: I'm a left handed black lesbian. Well that's four. Well
Speaker 1: I'm also in a wheelchair. Well that's five. And what
Speaker 1: you end up doing is people's status increases by how
Speaker 1: much they claim victimhood, rather than your status increasing by
Speaker 1: your accomplishment, by what you've created, exactly. And I just
Speaker 1: find that fact that to be so un American and
Speaker 1: so dangerous and so cancerous to the human soul.
Speaker 3: Amen, we have a society where you can work hard
Speaker 3: and do whatever you want and stop using your race
Speaker 3: as a crutch. And actually it's only aggravating whites at
Speaker 3: this point because of exactly what you're talking about. And
Speaker 3: you know what, you have the right to go out
Speaker 3: out and work hard and do what you want and
Speaker 3: exactly make your biography about what you do and.
Speaker 1: Not your crutch, so right now, mind you, that doesn't
Speaker 1: mean we don't work to make sure everyone has a
Speaker 1: shot at writing their own biography. It doesn't mean we
Speaker 1: stand for anything that puts hurdles up in front of it,
Speaker 1: and we've got a history full of hurdles. But to
Speaker 1: turn it into say you are, imagine what that does
Speaker 1: to a poor child's mind. You go, you are a
Speaker 1: black kid, so you're already born a victim, and it
Speaker 1: is so systemic you have no choice but to embrace
Speaker 1: your victimhood. What exactly the hell does that do to
Speaker 1: a child's soul, to their self esteem, to their sense
Speaker 1: of self, to their ability to self direct a life.
Speaker 1: It is sick. It is child abuse.
Speaker 3: And who wants to be granted a job based on
Speaker 3: affirmative action. You weren't the best applicants, you weren't the
Speaker 3: best resume, but we had to talk to you and
Speaker 3: we got to do something now.
Speaker 1: And yeah, it's imagine going, imagine going to your black
Speaker 1: doctor and going, hmmm, are you here because you're good?
Speaker 1: Or is it here because you're your skin and color?
Speaker 3: And that exactly that.
Speaker 1: Only perpetuates racism. All right, thanks for the call. We're
Speaker 1: on the same page. I appreciate it. I say we
Speaker 1: we demand parody, equitable racial parody on the Denver Broncos team,
Speaker 1: and then we'll see how they do tomorrow. I'm John Caldera.
Speaker 1: Three oh three, seven to one, three eight five, eight five,
Speaker 1: keep it here. You're on KOWA eighteen minutes after good
Speaker 1: even good evening, good afternoon. I'm John Caldera. All right,
Speaker 1: I I enjoy I hate to say it, watching Saturday
Speaker 1: Night Lives Weekend Update. They're socialist hacks, I get it,
Speaker 1: but they're often pretty funny and I enjoy it and
Speaker 1: tuned in to watch it. Sad I watch it on YouTube,
Speaker 1: and I watched it and something really struck me. The
Speaker 1: host of the fake newscast did one of his fake stories,
Speaker 1: and then he went into a joke about the killer
Speaker 1: of the United Healthcare CEO. You know this terrible assassination
Speaker 1: that happened in Manhattan just a little while ago. And
Speaker 1: what was weird about it was he put up the
Speaker 1: picture of the killer and said the guy's name. But
Speaker 1: before he could get his joke out, the crowd erupted
Speaker 1: in applause. Let me say this again. The crowd erupted
Speaker 1: in applause and excitement in what I took as support
Speaker 1: for this murderer. It was really perverse. So let me
Speaker 1: see if I can play this this FORO. You listen
Speaker 1: to it as he as he finishes one joke and
Speaker 1: then he's gonna go in and go to the next one.
Speaker 1: This last joke has Trump and Musk and P Diddy
Speaker 1: in it. Let's listen in.
Speaker 4: Luigi Mangi, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: Definitely woo.
Speaker 4: You're wouing for justice, right, Luigi Mai dropped his extradition
Speaker 4: fight and was flown.
Speaker 1: From all right, let me let me just do that
Speaker 1: one again because I just found that so bizarre and weird.
Speaker 1: You you hear the crowd's reaction as if, you know,
Speaker 1: as if some famous star just sat down next to
Speaker 1: him and you know, and they were all excited. So
Speaker 1: Scarlett Johansson happens to be the guy's wife sat down
Speaker 1: next to him. I'm sure the crowd will go, wow,
Speaker 1: look this is someone we love. Yay, And that's exactly
Speaker 1: what I heard from from this. Let's skip through that
Speaker 1: part here. Oh what did I do? I hit something else? Good? Gosh, good, golly,
Speaker 1: miss Molly. Anyway, that's what I found so very bizarre.
Speaker 1: Let's see I can do this again.
Speaker 4: Here, Donald Trump get re elected president and Elon Musk
Speaker 4: appoint himself co president. I listen to this next year,
Speaker 4: next cheer. Here we will see all three of those guys.
Speaker 4: Atl's fifth anniversary.
Speaker 1: That's funny, all right? Here comes the what it got me?
Speaker 4: Luigi Mangione?
Speaker 1: Drop? What what was that? What was that? People are
Speaker 1: screaming in support of a murderer? Does? Does that not
Speaker 1: scare you? Let me add to this. Here's an AP story.
Speaker 1: Most Americans blame insurance profits and denials alongside the killer
Speaker 1: in the United Healthcare CEO death poll fines. Here's the
Speaker 1: story from the AP. Most Americans believe health insurance profits
Speaker 1: and coverage denials share responsibility for killing of United Healthcare
Speaker 1: ce although not as much as the person who pulled
Speaker 1: the trigger. According to a new poll, What upside down Bizarro?
Speaker 1: Violent world? Are we living in? The health insurance companies
Speaker 1: are responsible, but not as much for the killing of
Speaker 1: this person whoa But it just gets weirder. In a
Speaker 1: survey from narc at the University of Chicago, about eight
Speaker 1: in ten US adults, eighty percent of us said the
Speaker 1: person who committed the killing. This guy named Luigi Mangione,
Speaker 1: the person who committed the killing, has quote a great
Speaker 1: deal or a moderate amount of responsibility for the December
Speaker 1: fourth shooting. Xxcuse me, I've seen the videotape. This one
Speaker 1: individual pulls out a handgun, shoots this man several times
Speaker 1: in the back, and he has a moderate amount of
Speaker 1: responsibility for the shooting of Brian Thompson. And then they
Speaker 1: go on. Despite that. Some have cast Luigi Mangione, the
Speaker 1: twenty six year old suspect charged with the murder, as
Speaker 1: a heroic figure in the aftermath of his arrest, which
Speaker 1: gave rise to an outpouring of grievances about insurance companies.
Speaker 1: Police say the word delay, deny, and depose were scrawled
Speaker 1: on the ammunition investigators found at the scene, echoing a
Speaker 1: phrase commonly used to describe ensure tactics to avoid paying claims.
Speaker 1: Is this how we deal with things? Now? This is
Speaker 1: a outburst, a temper tantrum, going after a single person
Speaker 1: for for costs of health care? Might I try something else?
Speaker 1: The cost of healthcare has been piling up ever since Obamacare.
Speaker 1: Obamacare causes health insurance companies to be smack dab in
Speaker 1: the middle of what they must cover and what they
Speaker 1: cannot cover. And if somebody shot Obama in the back
Speaker 1: and the ammunition casings said deny to pose and delay
Speaker 1: on it. Do you think that guy would be getting cheers. No,
Speaker 1: he'd be condemned the way he should be. This is
Speaker 1: truly perverse. Help me understand it. Three oh three seven one,
Speaker 1: three eight five eighty five. I'm John Caldera in for Mandy.
Speaker 1: Keep it here, you're on cue b bump, bump, bump bump.
Speaker 1: I'm waiting for this to turn into something. Oh, Van Morrison,
Speaker 1: there we go. My favorite concert film is The Band's
Speaker 1: Last Waltz, and Van Morrison plays on it and he
Speaker 1: seems like a real jerk. Neil Young plays in that
Speaker 1: concert as well. I never really liked Neil Young, and
Speaker 1: he had something hanging out of his nose for his
Speaker 1: entire performance, so I just couldn't watch anything other than that.
Speaker 1: But it was the best concert film ever. Oh the Band. Hey,
Speaker 1: I'm John Caldera. Give me a call. Three or three
Speaker 1: seven one, three eight five eighty five. I just gave
Speaker 1: you the poll numbers that eighty percent of Americans think
Speaker 1: that the killer is moderately responsible for the killing. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, no wonder we're so messed up when there
Speaker 1: is absolutely no accountability for personal actions and that when
Speaker 1: you have a disagreement, you can just go ahead and
Speaker 1: shoot somebody in the middle of the street. Remember when
Speaker 1: Trump said, Hey, I'm president, I could shoot somebody in
Speaker 1: the middle of the street and still have immunity. And
Speaker 1: technically he's right. While he's president, doesn't mean that there
Speaker 1: won't be a political fallout and doesn't mean he won't
Speaker 1: be arrested afterwards, doesn't mean he won't be impeached and removed.
Speaker 1: But here people are happy that this CEO is assassinated.
Speaker 1: I played for you a clip from Saturday Night Live
Speaker 1: when the weekend Update guy merely put the picture of
Speaker 1: the killer on and said his name, and the crowd
Speaker 1: went wild, like like they just saw Eric Clapton walk
Speaker 1: on stage. All right, let's go to some phone calls.
Speaker 1: Three h three seven to one, three eighty five, eighty five,
Speaker 1: Hey Van, welcome.
Speaker 5: Hi John. I agree too that it is absurd that
Speaker 5: we think the killer is not responsible. It made me
Speaker 5: think of when there's a shooting with the gun gun
Speaker 5: control people point to the gun to the gun seller
Speaker 5: into a gun manufacturer as to blame.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the same sort of craziness. Listen to this
Speaker 1: from the AP story. About seven in ten adults, seventy
Speaker 1: percent of us say that denials for health care coverage
Speaker 1: by insurance companies or the profits made by health insurance
Speaker 1: companies also bear at least quote a moderate amount of
Speaker 1: responsibility for the man's death. Younger Americans are particularly likely
Speaker 1: to see the murder as the result of a confluence
Speaker 1: of forces rather than just one person's actions. This is
Speaker 1: terrifying to me. This is terrifying that we have raised
Speaker 1: our kids to believe that people aren't solely responsible for
Speaker 1: their own actions. But there's some sort of societal justification
Speaker 1: if if you don't like the company you're doing business with.
Speaker 1: I help me, help me understand this. I mean, this
Speaker 1: is this is when I say terrifying. I'm I'm not
Speaker 1: over saying that for for effect. When people think, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: he's you know, he's mostly responsible for that, but the
Speaker 1: guy's own company is moderately responsible for his death.
Speaker 5: Wow, lack of personal accountability is touching all aspects of
Speaker 5: our lives.
Speaker 1: And I hate to say this, but I I know
Speaker 1: it to be true in my bones. There are single
Speaker 1: payer healthcare advocates, government controlled healthcare advocates who are rubbing
Speaker 1: their hands at this murder. They're going here, we go
Speaker 1: just as we planned. Because what happens is they create
Speaker 1: these laws that make private businesses look like the bad guys.
Speaker 1: So they put in they put in Obamacare takes away
Speaker 1: pre existing conditions and using Medicaid money to do this,
Speaker 1: forces insurance companies to accept all this stuff, which means
Speaker 1: it's going to cost us a lot of money. And therefore,
Speaker 1: who's going to get blamed Not Obama, not Congress, not
Speaker 1: the government for creating this system, but the healthcare companies,
Speaker 1: which are now basically just utilities run by the government.
Speaker 1: There's no not that big of a difference between United
Speaker 1: Healthcare and Excel Energy. They're basically close to monopolies, and
Speaker 1: it's created by government policy. Now, if these people who
Speaker 1: are pulled we're more economically and politically intuned, maybe they'd
Speaker 1: say that, yes, the shooter is mostly responsible, but Obama
Speaker 1: deserves at least a moderate amount of blame for this.
Speaker 1: None of them say that it's the company. Let me
Speaker 1: give you one more case in point Colorado has something
Speaker 1: called a hospital bed tax. We never got to vote
Speaker 1: on it, so they call it a fee. By calling
Speaker 1: it a fee, Sorry about that van who lost you
Speaker 1: by calling it a fee. People didn't have to vote
Speaker 1: on it. So when you go to a hospital, you
Speaker 1: are paying an extra tax when you stay over at
Speaker 1: a hospital. And this tax, which they like to call
Speaker 1: a fee, is used to pay for Medicaid for Obamacare,
Speaker 1: so your cost at the hospital goes up. But by now,
Speaker 1: listen carefully, this is right. So you didn't get to
Speaker 1: vote on this tax increase. The Colorado legislature passed it.
Speaker 1: Governor hicken Luperter signed it into law, knowing full well
Speaker 1: it would never pass at the ballot box. And when
Speaker 1: you get your hospital bill, by law, they cannot line
Speaker 1: item that tax. So you're looking at your hospital bill
Speaker 1: and you go, man, this is expensive and there's nothing
Speaker 1: that says yes, this five percent here, that's a government
Speaker 1: tax that you didn't get to vote on. No, there's
Speaker 1: nothing there on your invoice. By law, hospitals need to
Speaker 1: hide this bed tax in your bill. They cannot line
Speaker 1: item it. Instead of mandating that at be there, they
Speaker 1: mandate they hide it. So who are you angry at
Speaker 1: and you get out of the hospital and the cost
Speaker 1: is outrageous. You look at the bill. Who do you
Speaker 1: get angry at. You don't get angry at the Colorado
Speaker 1: legislature and the single payer advocates there and the guys
Speaker 1: who want government control of healthcare. No, you get angry
Speaker 1: at the hospital, but they're not the ones that cause
Speaker 1: that increase. So you might go out and assassinate the
Speaker 1: head of the hospital instead of assassinating the politician who
Speaker 1: made it happen. And no, make it clear, I'm not
Speaker 1: advocating that, but that's how devious, deceptive, duplicitous big government
Speaker 1: progressives are. And it's not by accident, it's by plan.
Speaker 1: And that's why I say there are people rubbing their
Speaker 1: hands together in excitement about this murder because their plan
Speaker 1: is working. People are frustrated with companies that are just
Speaker 1: doing what the law requires them to do now instead
Speaker 1: of those who passed the outlandish laws. You remember, though,
Speaker 1: don't you, that Obamacare was gonna save you money. You
Speaker 1: remember the great promise of if you like your health
Speaker 1: care provider, you can keep your healthcare provider. If you
Speaker 1: like your doctor, you can keep your doctor. And we
Speaker 1: are going to make healthcare what what's the magic word affordable?
Speaker 1: It was called the health Care Affordability Act, the American
Speaker 1: health Care Affordability Act. Wow. So not only are people
Speaker 1: just delightfully ignorant of why the costs are so high,
Speaker 1: but this has been staged in such a way that
Speaker 1: you get angry at the companies, not the bureaucrats, not
Speaker 1: the politicians who create the system. And now seven and
Speaker 1: ten say that the insurance companies bear at least a
Speaker 1: moderate amount of responsibility for this murder. Younger Americans are
Speaker 1: particularly likely to see the murder as a result of
Speaker 1: a confluence of forces, rather than just one person's action.
Speaker 1: Let me continue from the ap story. Americans under thirty
Speaker 1: are especially likely to think a mix of factors is
Speaker 1: to blame for Thompson's death. They say that insurance company
Speaker 1: denials and profits are about as as responsible as Thompson's
Speaker 1: killer for his death. Remember, these are the people going
Speaker 1: to be taking care of you in the home. Americans
Speaker 1: under thirty are likely to say the insurance company is
Speaker 1: as responsible as the guy who pulled the trigger. No
Speaker 1: wonder they love gun control laws, No wonder they want
Speaker 1: government control of everything. From birth until death, because individuals
Speaker 1: are not responsible for their own actions, that the company
Speaker 1: this guy worked for was as responsible as the murderer himself.
Speaker 1: Now I get it. Every generation thinks the next generation
Speaker 1: has messed up values. But these are dangerously messed up values.
Speaker 1: Three h threety seven one three eighty five eighty five
Speaker 1: seven to one three eighty five eighty five continue on
Speaker 1: young people reading from the ap story. Young people are
Speaker 1: also the least likely age group to say a great
Speaker 1: deal quote great deal of responsibility falls on the person
Speaker 1: who committed the killing. Only four in ten say that.
Speaker 1: Sixty percent of people under thirty don't believe that the
Speaker 1: killer has a great deal of responsibility for the murder
Speaker 1: he committed. No wonder, no wonder that people in the
Speaker 1: studios watching Saturday Night Live's Weekend Update when they saw
Speaker 1: this guy on the screen cheered in crazy excitement. Yeah
Speaker 1: did you hear that? How else do you explain that? Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely wo you're wooing for justice?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: All right? You know, I get a late night parody
Speaker 1: show is made to have off color jokes. I'm not
Speaker 1: I'm not making anything about that. It was the reaction
Speaker 1: even before they heard any joke of seeing this guy's
Speaker 1: picture and the excitement that they have for him. It's
Speaker 1: bizarre looking at a protester holds up a sign awaiting
Speaker 1: the arrival of the killer for his arrangement at a
Speaker 1: Manhattan criminal court, and the sign says innocent and proven guilty,
Speaker 1: saying that he really didn't do it. Other ones holding
Speaker 1: up signs that say deny, defend, depose. Yeah, just so
Speaker 1: you know, your healthcare costs are gonna go skyrocketing now,
Speaker 1: insurance companies, maybe they'll pay out more. What does that
Speaker 1: mean that you're gonna get charged more? What I love
Speaker 1: about the left, What I truly admire about the left
Speaker 1: is how long term oriented they are compared to the right.
Speaker 1: The right sees victories in terms of the next election. Hey,
Speaker 1: Trump won We he's gonna solve everything. Oh no, he's not.
Speaker 1: Even if Trump was as powerful as a king in
Speaker 1: four years, he is not going to reverse the course
Speaker 1: of eighty years of a socialistic torrent coming down since FDR.
Speaker 1: You're not going to in four years be able to
Speaker 1: undo the societal change and the governmental takeover of nearly
Speaker 1: every aspect of our lives in four years. But you know,
Speaker 1: people think that, and that's it's a good start. Don't
Speaker 1: get me wrong, I'm happy, But the left thinks in
Speaker 1: terms of decades Obama passed Obamacare. They're not stupid. They
Speaker 1: knew full well it was only a step towards single payer,
Speaker 1: government run healthcare Allah Canada. It just takes time, and
Speaker 1: they keep pushing, and they keep pushing, and now the
Speaker 1: architects of that plan and looking at this going here
Speaker 1: is our useful idiot, as good looking young man who
Speaker 1: kills healthcare executives because they're parts of the evil private
Speaker 1: healthcare system. It couldn't be working out better for healthcare
Speaker 1: socialists who take the very wonderful long view of societal
Speaker 1: change three or three seven to one, three eight two
Speaker 1: five five seven to one three talk and am I
Speaker 1: wrong on any of this? Is someone brave enough to
Speaker 1: tell me that, you know, really, the healthcare companies do
Speaker 1: bear irresponsibility?
Speaker 5: Here?
Speaker 1: Can can you make that argument coherently? And if you do,
Speaker 1: if you believe that healthcare companies deserve responsibility partial responsibility
Speaker 1: for this cold blooded murder shooting someone in the back,
Speaker 1: then will you use the same logic and say that
Speaker 1: governmental mandates in insurance cause this murder too, or is
Speaker 1: it just one of these things. You see it the
Speaker 1: way you see it, and you'll never never change. We
Speaker 1: are on a path to government controlled healthcare. We basically
Speaker 1: have government controlled healthcare. It's just that it is contracted
Speaker 1: out to a handful of companies. Think about it in Colorado.
Speaker 1: Colorado's mandates are so terrible and it is so difficult
Speaker 1: to do business that insurance companies keep packing out and leaving.
Speaker 1: They keep going, No, it's not worth the trouble, it's
Speaker 1: not worth the mandates, it's not worth the price. We
Speaker 1: can't make money here, so we're going to go someplace else,
Speaker 1: which means we have fewer companies, less competition, and your
Speaker 1: healthcare costs go up and go up and go up.
Speaker 1: Same thing is happening in California. The mandated payouts are
Speaker 1: too high. Companies cannot stay afloat, and they find it
Speaker 1: cost effective to stop to stop doing business, so they leave,
Speaker 1: which only brings up the cost. Colorado is one of
Speaker 1: the most expensive places in the country to leave to live.
Speaker 1: Why because government messes with everything. Government has urban growth boundaries.
Speaker 1: These urban growth boundaries make it impossible to build new homes.
Speaker 1: House housing is expensive. Food is expensive. Energy now is
Speaker 1: going to get really expensive. Let's see if we can
Speaker 1: squeeze Dave in before we have to say goodbye.
Speaker 2: Dave.
Speaker 1: Welcome. You're with John Caldera.
Speaker 2: Hey John, real quick, look, because I know it's short
Speaker 2: on time. I retired ten years ago got Obamacare for
Speaker 2: my wife and myself. We were both healthy at fifty
Speaker 2: one and fifty three. Our premium was seven hundred thirty
Speaker 2: dollars the first year nine forty, the second fourteen hundred
Speaker 2: to third, and our out of pocket was eighty five
Speaker 2: hundred apiece, which means that you have to pay all
Speaker 2: that money plus eighty five one hundred dollars to get
Speaker 2: Obama Care to pay anything. So I was paying twenty
Speaker 2: four grand a year for basically nothing. So I got
Speaker 2: out of it and I went to direct pay Concierge.
Speaker 2: Medicine cost myself and for my wife and myself one
Speaker 2: hundred and nineteen dollars a month. We get almost complete
Speaker 2: care up to the point of needing to go to
Speaker 2: the emergency room or hospital for anything from or doctor.
Speaker 2: If there's anything extra that needs to be done by him,
Speaker 2: he has a printed price sheet. And on top of that,
Speaker 2: we supplemented that with catastrophic meta share, which is one
Speaker 2: of the healthcare systems allowed under Obamacare, is written, it
Speaker 2: cost US five hundred and sixty two dollars a month.
Speaker 1: Okay, so let mee if I got this right, you
Speaker 1: started at roughly seven hundred and forty bucks. Within a
Speaker 1: couple of years that double to fourteen. And now now
Speaker 1: you've you've you've junked at all. You've gone with a
Speaker 1: concierge's membership type of doctor. If they need other services,
Speaker 1: you pay for that, and you got catastrophic care at
Speaker 1: about five hundred dollars a month. Do you feel pretty
Speaker 1: good about it? I think he does feel pretty good
Speaker 1: about it. That makes sense. Hey, check out the Independence
Speaker 1: Institute go to thinkfreedom dot org. Bandy, thanks for letting
Speaker 1: me sit in for you. I'm John Caldera and you
Speaker 1: you're on Kowa