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two o'clock and so that means we chat with ap Dylon.
She is a reporter for the North State Journal. You
can read her work at nsjonline dot com, and she
is also the publisher of her substack newsletter called more
to the Story, Ap. How are you?
Speaker 2: I'm great, Pete. How are you doing?
Speaker 1: I'm doing well as well. So, first off, was the
Momo Moo back up in Raleigh today? Any Moral Monday
Movement sightings?
Speaker 2: Not a whole heck of a lot that I saw.
Their invitation was titled a Southern Call to Conscience and
they were going to be at the State Capitol and
then they were going to walk the center to buzz office,
and apparently they were going to have all bearers for coffins.
Speaker 1: But only one kind of paul bearer as I understand.
Speaker 2: Women, Yes, in honor of one hundred and fifth anniversary
or the ratification of the nineteenth Amendment, we're asking that
only women serve as pallbearers, speakers and testifiers on the program.
Speaker 1: Have you ever have you ever have you ever had
to do a pall bearer thing? Uh?
Speaker 3: Nope?
Speaker 1: Yeah, surprisingly heavy. Yeah, so they are very very heavy.
Coffins are very heavy, although I got to believe that
they're not going to be like actual real coffins, probably
just like some cardboard or paper mache types of representations
of the coffins. I guess maybe I don't Yeah, yeah, So,
so in honor of the ratification of the nineteenth Amendment,
only female pallbearers. Now, do we know how they are
determining whether the females are females?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 2: I would imagine that they, like in the past before protests,
had a meeting to organize who was going to say what,
and perhaps they were chosen at that time, But what
the qualifications were we don't.
Speaker 1: Know, right, But I mean, they don't even know what
a woman is. So how are they able to discriminate
the pallbearer cadre? I don't know, because, yeah, like if
anybody like I could step forward to be like I'm
a woman, I can I can do it, and who
are you to say I'm.
Speaker 2: Not so exactly?
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, well that's that's kind of the fizzle.
I'm sure they'll get some coverage. I'll have to check WRL.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll probably have a recap on myself stack later
this week when I get a free moment. But right
now I'm not seeing a whole huck of a lot
out there. But that's not to say that there isn't
video or pictures or something. I just haven't really gone
looking that well.
Speaker 1: You know what, you know how you can tell that
it's not well attended is if the video of the
event has a lot of tight shots of the protesters
and their feet. That's how you make it look like
there's more people there. You get real close up, you know,
you don't give any wide angles anyway. It's a little
trick of the trade there. So let's talk now about
the North Carolina Democrat Party Chair Anderson Clayton, who is
breezy as I understand it. According to her Twitter handle,
she apparently I'm not sure if it counts as bribery
or extortion or something like Matt Mercer, who isn't he
He he's the North Carolina GP chairman. But he used
to work at North State Journal, did he not?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 2: He was the editor, Yeah, Merce Journal for about five
years and he's their communications director over at the NCAA
gap right now?
Speaker 1: Oh, what did I call him? Did I call? Did
I promote him to chairman?
Speaker 2: You did? Jason Simmons might be a little upset.
Speaker 1: He would be, Yes, I apologize, No, he's the comms
director there. Sorry. So Matt's great guy and I've known
Matt for years, but he's he is suggesting that his
the Democrat party chairwoman Anderson Clayton, may have tweeted a
Class C felony. So what was this about?
Speaker 2: Well, apparently there was a claim by another Substucker, independent journalist,
Brian Anderson, who wrote that one hundred thousand dollars from
the MCGOP building fund was used for legal bills for
Jefferson Griffin in his bid for North Carolina Supreme Court. However,
that didn't happen, so he appears to updated story, which
I include the updated versi of that in there. Duke
Energy contributed one hundred thousand to the North Carolina Republican
Building Fund in February. While the North Carolina GOP's Building
Fund was the main financing vehicle for Jeff for Griffin's litigation,
Party spokes when Matt Mercer said Duke Energy's contribution wasn't
Griffin related. The company also says it wasn't intended to
support Griffin. So the money, Yeah, Duke Energy gave them
one hundred grand towards their building fund. In looking at
the building Fund and their most recent transactions, Duke Energy
is given them money regularly for things like utilities, payroll,
like building fund the things.
Speaker 1: So that our building fund is literally like for their building.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's literally for like operations upkeep. And they give
money to the Democratic Party for similar things. So that
was interesting to me, and you know, as I looked
into it even more, you know, you happen to mention that,
you know, the Duke Energy build out the DMC in
twenty twelve or twenty thirteen whenever they had their convention. Yeap,
So the two and the ten million dollars line of
credit which never got paid back right then ended up
eating that. So yeah, there's that.
Speaker 1: So this is what drove me nuts when I saw her,
when I saw Clayton's tweet about this, where she's like, hey,
maybe we could get a little bit of money. I
guess our check got lost in the mail. And I'm like,
you guys got ten million dollars from Duke Energy when
Obama came to town for the DNC in twenty twelve, and
then they and then you never paid Duke back and
so they just ate it. And that means the shareholders
ate that ten million, and that share those shareholders are
retirees that have Duke Energy stock that kicks off a
dividend for them. Like, that's what you That's what the
Democrats got. So I don't want to hear anything from
her about Democrats not getting money from Duke Energy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it wasn't a big deal. And I
mean if you look at at the building funds for
both of the parties, they both have that type of
fund in the past, and the twenty twenty four third
quarter report for the NCGP building Fund chose Duke's Energy
paid for operating expenses like cleaning, utility, building, payroll services,
but didn't show any of the money being transferred out
to any other committee, much less to Griffin and campaign finance.
They had to show that Griggs outraised Griffin almost three
to one, taking in over five point two million to
Griffin's one point nine. And you know, the NCGP gave
Griffin somewhere between two hundred and seventy five and I've
seen three hundred something thousand dollars, whereas the NCDP gave
Rigs two point one million dollars right her campaign. So
we're looking at this one hundred k from Duke Energy,
and in the chair, she made a really big deal
out of it, like they should have been giving money
to Allison Riggs as well, and she accused them of
subverting democracy and you know, the will of the voters.
And she made quite a number of claims there, of which,
you know, one I guess could be considered an extortion
level remark, Yeah, belief thattt Mercer did. She wrote that
Duke Energy can make our checkout to the NCDP building fund. Otherwise,
I guess we'll just have to assume that y'all meant
for this money to be to support, subverting democracy and
stealing the votes of military voters. Yeah, that's that was
That was quite a SmackDown on a major utility outfit
that runs in the southeast, not to mention based here
in North Carolina, that is given on both sides of
the aisles.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Duke Energy has given money to Democrats and Republicans
for decades, I mean, and Democrats when they were in control,
they got more of those donations because there were more members,
but they also controlled the legislature. So yeah, when when
the Republicans took over, then do probably reallocated. But just
like from a from an interpersonal relationship standpoint, this is
such a stupid thing to do.
Speaker 2: Right, Well, the political optics are horrible, right, that's that's
just not a smart move. But you know, she also
kind of ignored them. She and the Democrats have ignored
the fact that the Duke Energy one hundred grand is
a drop in the bucket compared to the cool half
million that Eric Holder in Barack Obama's National Democratic Redistricting
Committee gave them back in twenty eighteen to get Anito
Earles elected, Right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and so that was yeah, So and the expenditure
side of this what we're talking about is that Supreme
Court seat that was so contested for so many months,
and it went through all of these different court battles
and stuff between the incumbent Alis and Riggs, who was
appointed to that seat, but then did win. But remember
she was losing at first, and then when all the
when all the dust cleared and all the votes got counted,
then she was winning. And it's amazing how that always
happens in one direction, right.
Speaker 2: I mean, she was first appointed to the Court of
Appeals and you know, not even nine months I think later,
Ray Cooper then re elevated her to the Supreme Court seat, right,
I had of everyone else who was probably way more qualified.
So it shouldn't be lost on a anyone that both
Anita Earls and Alison and Riggs were business partners at
the Southern Coalition for Southern Justice. They used to sue
the state regularly over redistricting and voting maps and voter
id and that sort of thing. So the two of
them are great pals and are now Associate justice pals
on the bench.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they were activist lawyers that litigated everything out of
the Republican legislature and that was aard.
Speaker 2: Well at the end of the month. Apparently, on July thirtieth,
Senator Alex Padilla, the Democrat who's been upset about you know,
Maryland Man, held some sort of you know pushback against
the Texas redistricting and you know, saving democracy and you know,
jerrymandering in the whole nine yards. He held some kind
of public forum at which Alison Riggs was there to testify,
sitting right alongside Eric Holder. So I mean this, this
relationship continues, you know, And it's worth noting that between
eighteen and twenty twenty two, the FBC records show that
Holders Redistarting Group poured two point two seven four million
into the North Carolina Democratic Party and it's amongst all
of its different funds. So they've been meddling in North
Carolina elections for quite a while, despite you know, wanting
to save democracy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it's yeah, I don't. This is why I
don't believe them in any of their arguments about quote
unquote fair maps. Right there. They're utter hypocrites on all
of this. And when they say a fair map, what
they're talking about is a map that advantages them' that's
it's and they have people that obviously carry this narrative
for them in the media, and it's just it's just
repugnant to me. But we'll leave it there. Ap, I
appreciate it as always. Keep up the great work.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, thank you for each time.
Speaker 1: All right, take care. That's ap Dylan. You can read
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So this was a story that was mentioned by ap
Dyllon in her notes at her substack more to the story,
and so I clicked over to the Center Square where
this op ed by Jason Simmons appears. Jason Simmons is
the chairman of the North Carolina Republican Party and the
name of the piece is titled Roy Cooper led the
split from bipartisan agreement on school choice. He gives a
little bit of the history. You got one and a
half million kids now returning to the you know, the
classroom for the school year. He's talking about the rise
in the homeschooling and the use of the opportunity scholarship
money the school the vouchers, right, he says, it's no
surprise North Carolina has been considered a leader in the
school choice movement. At one time, Expanding charter schools and
opportunities outside of the traditional public schools was a goal
lauded by both political parties. However, radical left Democrats, led
by former Governor Roy Cooper, broke North Carolina's by partisan
agreement on school choice. Only among the radical left is
school choice a problem. History shows democrats once agreed with
giving children a fair shot at obtaining a quality education.
That radical left is led by Cooper, who waged war
on school choice as a governor. In his lame duck
year in office, he went so far as to call
school choice an emergency on par with hurricane warnings and
public health concerns. Cooper's State of Emergency sham, That's why
I called it. The stunt of emergency, was called the
Year of public Schools and made no mention of parents
or students. In nearly every budget cycle, Cooper zeroed out
the funding for the opportunity scholarships, and he argued the
money going directly to families to his a escape of
failing school should go elsewhere. Cooper and his Democrats misled
the public about the source of funding as well. The
General Assembly fully funded North Carolina's public schools, increasing appropriations
every year for over a decade. This is a shameful
lie perpetuated by Cooper and the radical left, he said. Nationally,
Democrats continue to defend the status quo. While math and
reading scores for thirteen year olds are at the lowest
level in decades, six in ten fourth graders and nearly
three quarters of eighth graders are not proficient in math.
Seventy percent of fourth and eighth graders are not proficient
in reading. Democrats today firmly stand in the doorway between
students and the education they deserve. So that was Simmons's peace.
And then there was this out of Mississippi. In an
effort to make the case against school choice, the Mississippi
Democrat Party accidentally made the perfect case for school choice.
Hilarity ensued within an hour, with it finally dawning on
them what they had done, what they had posted on Twitter.
They deleted the post. Okay, so it started off where
they were responding to a piece that appeared in the
Magnolia Tribune and they were like, a recent article called
public school advocates objectively dumb for opposing public funds going
to private schools. Well, no, actually, the article just said
that the arguments that people are making are dumb, and
he said the author, Russ Latino, said, the article did
not call public school advocates objectively dumb. It called an
inconsistent argument made by opponents of school choice objectively dumb.
If you're going to fact check, start by not lying.
So then the Democrat Party's social media account comes back
and says PELL grants go to student because he mentioned
PELL grants as an example of this, And they say
PELL grants go to students, not directly to colleges, just
like food stamps go to people, not grocery stores. There's
a difference between public funds that empower individuals and public
dollars handed to private institutions with no oversight. Yeah, except right,
the money goes to the kid, and then the kid
hands it to the private institution. The PEL grant, by
the way, is directed, it doesn't actually go to the
student first, so they were wrong on that too. It
actually does go directly to the institution. It is dispersed
directly to the colleges. In other words, the posts from
the Democrats marked a similarity, not a difference. Okay, they
actually made the original point in praising the fact that
pelgramts and pel grants and food stamps are public funds
that empower individuals. They actually made the very argument that
their opponents make against them, and that's why they then
deleted that post as well. All right, if you're listening
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the program the Labor Commissioner of North Carolina, Luke Farley.
How are you, Commissioner? What's going on?
Speaker 3: Hey, Pete, good to talk to you. How are you.
Speaker 1: I'm doing all right. You know, I just saw you
this weekend. I was in in elevator.
Speaker 3: Oh that's right, yeah, and my wife said, well, what
happened this weekend?
Speaker 1: So anybody Sorry, I didn't mean to confuse you, but
my wife said, well, what happened to Josh Dobson. I
was like, well, he didn't run again, Luke Farley, just once.
So now I didn't know that they swap him out
that quickly, But we were commenting, you're a very nice signature.
You have very good penmanship.
Speaker 3: So well, I appreciate that.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: When I was running, that was the number one thing
people would tell me, is your signature better be as
good as cherie berries? Right, and it's certainly going to
be better than Josh's. Right.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Wasn't I forget that all the time when I was
out there?
Speaker 1: Did you? That's actually your signature on that, that's actually yours.
Speaker 3: Well, I'll let you in on a little secret.
Speaker 1: Oh.
Speaker 3: I got about thirty three thousand elevators in the state,
So thirty three thousand certificates, and honestly I do not
sign them all by hand. Well, that would be all
you pay me to do. But yes, that is really
my signature. That's really what it looks like. Send me
your address. I'll send you a letter and sign it.
Speaker 1: No, that's okay. No, I just I thought you were
going to say it was like AI generated or something,
But no, you can autopen that thing. Yeah, thirty thousand.
Speaker 3: This office, we are I sign We're only signatures by hand.
No auto pen There you go.
Speaker 1: So how's the how's it going so far?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 1: As the Labor commissioners, it what you thought it would be,
You know.
Speaker 3: Pete, this is the best job I have ever had,
and the reason is because I get to get up
every day and serve the people of the state that
I love. And that's all I got to focus on,
is serving them and fulfilling the campaign promises that I
ran on. So you really couldn't ask for a better job.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, So the elevators are actually related. Yet
this falls under the Labor Commissioner. But what else does
the Labor Commissioner do?
Speaker 3: So obviously we inspect the elevators, but we do other
things to protect the rights of workers in North Carolina.
So we've got a Wage an Hour Bureau where you
can complain if you aren't paid the wages that your
employer promised you. And if you've got any listeners who
have those issues, they can call our department at one
eight hundred NC Labor, one eight hundred NC Labor and
that's the hotline where you can report all sorts of
labor and employment law violations, and one of them is
wage an hour and in fact, PETE we just for
the fiscal year that just ended, recovered two point five
million dollars for North Carolina's workers. These are wages that
they were promised by their employer either final page bonuses
or commissions or paychecks that had things improperly deducted from them.
And we went to back for those employees against their
employers and collected two point five million dollars. In fact,
Mecklenburg County was the number two county in the state
where we collected back wages and.
Speaker 1: All of that goes goes back to those workers.
Speaker 3: It goes right back to the workers. This is money
they can use to pay rent, make their car payment.
You know where it's back to school season, so yeah,
paying for back to school supplies. But the workers of
North Carolina earned it, and the North Carolina Labor Department
was here to telp them recover it. So just over
three hundred thousand dollars back to workers in Mecklenburg County.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's fantastic. Good job. Related to elevators amusement devices,
I guess the Amusement device Bureau, I guess because you
don't want your you don't want your rides at the
fair or your elevators to I guess like feel the same, right,
So you want that, you want to inspected, but you
want the elevator to run a little bit. Probably smoother
than the roller coaster.
Speaker 3: We want you to have fun and we want you
to have thrills when you ride these amusement rides, but
we also want you to have confidence and peace of mind.
And everybody who's going to be getting on an amusement
ride here in the next few months should feel confident
that North Carolina Department of Labor inspectors have inspected every
single one top to bottom. And today actually marks the
start at fair season in North Carolina. The Drexel Fair
in Burke County opens today and in fact, as soon
as we get off the phone, I'm hopping in a
car tohead to the opening ceremonies out in Drexel. But
today marks the start of the fair season. We've got
over thirty different fairs, including the State Fair, the Mountain
State Fair, the Carolina Classic Fair, and every ride there
infected by an inspectors from the Department of Labor.
Speaker 1: So when you show up on scene at these fairs,
like does like the word go out like the bosses
here make sure everything is you know, tip top shape.
It's like, we don't want to get in trouble, you know.
Speaker 3: I think our guys do a great job whether I'm
there or not. And in fact, I've got so much
confidence in the work of the inspectors in our department.
I got three young boys eight, four and one, and
I'd put them on any ride inspected by the Department
of Labor, assuming they met the height requirements. The one
year old probably don't.
Speaker 1: Yeah, probably, yeah, that's probably not wise. Try to smuggle
them on or something that's probably not great. So this,
as you mentioned, the Drexel Fair, This is the seventy
fifth annual fair. And for people who don't know where
Drexel is, it's between Valdi's and Morganton, so it's sort
of like the Hickory metro area up there in Burke County.
And so have you ever been to this fair before,
the Drexel Fair.
Speaker 3: I have, actually, about two years ago, when I was
campaigning for this office, I spent a day at that fare.
It is a great fair. They call it a community fair.
It is the only fair in North Carolina that has
never charged an admission fee for its entire existence. So
for seventy five years you can go have family fun
at a reasonable cost. And so we see our job
at the Department of Labors making sure that when families
are out there having a good time. They can just
focus on being together as a family and enjoying themselves
and they don't have to worry about whether the rides
are safe or not. That's our job and that's what
we're focused on.
Speaker 1: Well, I will let you get to it.
Speaker 2: Then.
Speaker 1: I do appreciate your time. Have fun at the fair,
and thanks for your time today, sir. We appreciate it.
Speaker 3: Good talking to you.
Speaker 1: Pete Hi, Yes, sir, take care. That's the Labor Commissioner
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to Labor Commissioner Luke Farley. I did literally just see
his photo in the elevator this weekend. I was wondering
when they would change them out. Actually I wasn't. I
was like, oh, that was fast. Anyway, MSNBC's got a
new name. Not the one that we use to mock them. No,
they really are changing their name. They are now going
to be called miss Now. I'm not kidding, that's the
name miss Now. MSNBC is set to change its name
as part of Comcast's spin off from NBC Universal, which
the company announced in late twenty twenty four. According to
the Wall Street Journal. It reported today. Wall Street Journal
did that the left leaning network's new name technically will
be my source News Opinion World. That's I'm yeah, that's
what they're my source space News Opinion World or miss Now, CNBC, USA,
Oxygen E. They're all included in the Comcast spinoff as well.
CNBC gets to keep its name, but they're working on
a new logo. I guess they got to get rid
of the peacock, you know. The move is part of
the network's attempt to separate themselves from NBC Back in
November when they put this press release out, they say
it's intent to create a new publicly traded company comprised
of a strong portfolio of NBC Universal's cable television networks,
including USA Network, CNBC MSNBC, Oxygen E, Sci Fi, and
the Golf Channel, along with complementary digital assets including Fandango
and Rotten Tomatoes, Golf Now, and Sports Engine. I've not
heard of like three of those, so no, I have.
Fandango's a movie thing, right, isn't that? Like? So is
Rotten Tomatoes. I know that one. That's the one where
they get the critics score right, and then you have
the the audience score. And if the critics score is high,
then that's a good sign. Then that the audience score
is going to be low, and then you don't want
to watch that movie, and vice versa. If it's a
high audience score low critic score, that's usually a good movie.
That's that's how I interpret the Rotten Tomatoes ranking system.
So there's that. Yeah, miss now or I guess it
would be ms now is their new name, which will
well solve all of their problems as I understand it.
The new name and the lack of NBC resources from
which to draw is probably go to make their content well, well, yeah,
probably worse. Actually, if that's even possible, it's basically going
to become Air America, because all you're going to have
is a bunch of raging pundits on the left. By
the way, I'm not sure if the marketing geniuses that
came up with the miz now ms now, I'm not
sure they are aware. But folks on the right have
have added a letter to the name MSNBC for years.
I think Limbaugh may have actually been the one to
do it first, and then everybody on the right has
been calling MSNBC a different acronym. They throw the letter
P at the beginning and they say MSNBC after the
p so it's PMSNBC and now you've just made it worse.
I'm not sure if there's like, I'm not sure there's
a better example of being in the bubble right than this.
Why would you, like, why would you hand your your
opponents this name because now it's PMS now, which is like, yes,
oh my goodness, I don't know. I don't know who
decided this terrible, absolutely terrible. And then there's this I
had no idea. Maybe I circle back to this Jen
Psaki style tomorrow. I did want to cover it though,
because it was a piece over at WBTV.
Speaker 3: There.
Speaker 1: Did you know there's a town called Bostick, North Carolina,
to Rutherford County, and there is the Bostick Lincoln Center.
It's a museum that challenges the history books that the
nation's sixteenth president, Abraham Lincoln was actually not born in Kentucky.
He was actually born here in North Carolina. Yeah, in
a scandalous manner, stories shared through the generations, first pieced
together by the late Tom Melton, longtime Rutherford County school educator. Yeah,
I'm gonna have to get into the details on this
because it is scandalous. We'll do it tomorrow. All right,
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