WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:01.919 Hey, welcome to Wicked and Grim. 2 00:00:02.240 --> 00:00:03.799 I'm Ben and I'm Nicole. 3 00:00:04.160 --> 00:00:05.960 We want to take a moment and tell you about 4 00:00:06.000 --> 00:00:07.519 a new podcast that we started. 5 00:00:07.799 --> 00:00:10.119 A lot of you know Jacko from our Halloween Week 6 00:00:10.160 --> 00:00:13.039 episodes and he is the host of our new show 7 00:00:13.199 --> 00:00:14.439 called Fearful. 8 00:00:14.919 --> 00:00:19.719 It focuses on creepy stories like urban legends, paranormal tales. 9 00:00:19.719 --> 00:00:22.039 Mysteries, and even some true crime. 10 00:00:22.519 --> 00:00:25.920 Season one has just released and is currently available for 11 00:00:25.960 --> 00:00:28.879 you to check out wherever you listen to your podcasts. 12 00:00:29.359 --> 00:00:31.559 So check it out and give it a review. 13 00:00:31.800 --> 00:00:34.960 We appreciate all your support and as always. 14 00:00:35.159 --> 00:00:37.039 Stay wicked. 15 00:00:44.039 --> 00:00:47.560 Crimes come in all shapes and sizes. Some can be 16 00:00:47.600 --> 00:00:51.640 as benign as jaywalking across the street or little excess 17 00:00:51.679 --> 00:00:56.719 noise past certain hours in a suburb. From there, things 18 00:00:56.759 --> 00:01:01.039 can escalate from vehicular speeding to that and all the 19 00:01:01.079 --> 00:01:05.519 way up to murder. Today, a crime is committed that 20 00:01:05.879 --> 00:01:08.519 isn't on the extreme end of the list. The music 21 00:01:08.599 --> 00:01:12.079 store in the seventies called the Hi Fi Store was robbed, 22 00:01:12.799 --> 00:01:17.439 but it did quickly escalate from there. Where it does 23 00:01:17.519 --> 00:01:21.239 get worse is when the stores employees are held hostage 24 00:01:21.239 --> 00:01:24.840 in the store's basement and made to do horrendous things 25 00:01:24.879 --> 00:01:29.719 before being killed in front of one another. This is 26 00:01:29.760 --> 00:01:32.719 the case known as the High Fi Murders. 27 00:01:34.040 --> 00:01:37.159 My name's Ben and I'm Nicole, and you're listening to 28 00:01:37.359 --> 00:01:40.599 Wicked and Grim, a true crime podcast. 29 00:01:42.319 --> 00:01:50.519 The following podcast material intend more mature audience listener discretion. 30 00:02:10.280 --> 00:02:13.680 A little bit of celebration today. Hey mm hm, did 31 00:02:13.680 --> 00:02:15.439 you hear our ad at the beginning? Did you hear it? 32 00:02:15.560 --> 00:02:16.120 Did you hear it? 33 00:02:16.439 --> 00:02:17.039 Yeah? 34 00:02:17.080 --> 00:02:17.560 I heard it. 35 00:02:18.560 --> 00:02:21.479 I think you did because you were a part of it. 36 00:02:21.479 --> 00:02:22.240 It was a good ad. 37 00:02:22.439 --> 00:02:26.560 It was fearful. The new podcast that we started is 38 00:02:26.599 --> 00:02:29.840 officially out. It's launched. Season one is live. 39 00:02:30.120 --> 00:02:33.520 Wow. 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That's like something 51 00:03:00.120 --> 00:03:01.280 I really don't want to share. 52 00:03:01.520 --> 00:03:03.199 Why what is it? 53 00:03:03.199 --> 00:03:05.479 It's kind of gross? Actually, well, it's not terrible, but 54 00:03:05.520 --> 00:03:08.319 it's like a Greens drink. Like there's a whole bunch 55 00:03:08.360 --> 00:03:12.080 of greens in powder form with like some gut health 56 00:03:12.120 --> 00:03:14.879 stuff in there. Like it's like it's basically like the 57 00:03:14.879 --> 00:03:16.840 healthiest possible drink you can be drinking. 58 00:03:16.960 --> 00:03:18.759 So it's nasty as fuck, is what you're saying. 59 00:03:19.319 --> 00:03:21.840 It's not nasty for greens. It's like pretty good, but 60 00:03:21.879 --> 00:03:25.400 it's quite thick. It's like black in color almost. 61 00:03:25.639 --> 00:03:29.080 It looks pretty gnarly. Anytime I wash your custance always 62 00:03:29.120 --> 00:03:31.039 like a guessing game on what the fuck is in it? 63 00:03:31.759 --> 00:03:33.639 Yeah, so I don't know. It's just just be good 64 00:03:33.680 --> 00:03:35.479 for like gut held and energy and stuff. 65 00:03:35.560 --> 00:03:37.039 So well that's good. 66 00:03:37.120 --> 00:03:39.039 I'm a basic bitch that believes in that shit. 67 00:03:39.280 --> 00:03:41.879 So hey, take care of yourself. There you go, you're 68 00:03:41.960 --> 00:03:44.639 basic bitch drinking your greens. I'm a basic bro drinking 69 00:03:44.719 --> 00:03:45.120 my beer. 70 00:03:45.759 --> 00:03:47.479 Hey. Oh, I was gonna say your craft beer, but 71 00:03:47.520 --> 00:03:49.560 I don't really think that's considered craft beer, is it. 72 00:03:49.879 --> 00:03:52.479 No? No, it's not, although it is very popular in 73 00:03:52.560 --> 00:03:53.960 Vancouver at least it used to be. 74 00:03:54.599 --> 00:03:57.199 Yeah, because yeah it's kind of it's hipster, but it's 75 00:03:57.240 --> 00:03:58.080 not really craft. 76 00:03:58.319 --> 00:04:03.879 No, it's a small brewer. But yeah, if anyone knows 77 00:04:03.919 --> 00:04:07.199 in the British Columbia or maybe even Alberta area, Cariboo 78 00:04:07.479 --> 00:04:10.319 Caribou beer, Yeah, brood right here and Prince George we live. 79 00:04:10.520 --> 00:04:12.159 And it's a little bit on the cheaper side than 80 00:04:12.199 --> 00:04:13.800 like craft beer, like less expensive. 81 00:04:13.800 --> 00:04:16.360 Oh definitely. So I'll like splurred sometimes get a craft 82 00:04:16.480 --> 00:04:18.120 and then like this is my what I call it 83 00:04:18.199 --> 00:04:18.959 grocery beer. 84 00:04:19.360 --> 00:04:20.279 Yeah, there you go. 85 00:04:21.040 --> 00:04:24.120 Anyways, enough of beer and gut health. 86 00:04:25.120 --> 00:04:27.480 We're pretty much on the opposite of spectrums right. 87 00:04:27.360 --> 00:04:31.519 Now, pretty much. But let's thank our patrons. Let's do it, Okay, 88 00:04:31.800 --> 00:04:34.439 So starting with patrons who signed up this previous week 89 00:04:34.439 --> 00:04:37.399 to go support us over there, we have Caitlin Merlin, 90 00:04:37.839 --> 00:04:44.240 Lindsey Burns, Monica Weston, Nicky Rasmussen, Angela S. Squibble, I 91 00:04:44.240 --> 00:04:48.399 hope I said her name right, Olivia Lovelace, and Kelly Apps. 92 00:04:48.759 --> 00:04:51.439 Thank you so much for signing up. We really appreciate that. 93 00:04:51.519 --> 00:04:53.839 What a list. 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You can find 102 00:05:19.279 --> 00:05:21.079 a lot of cool things down there for our podcast er. 103 00:05:21.160 --> 00:05:23.800 So if not, though, you're here and we appreciate that, 104 00:05:23.920 --> 00:05:24.680 so that's cool too. 105 00:05:24.920 --> 00:05:26.040 Yeah. 106 00:05:26.160 --> 00:05:28.279 Should we get on with case? Should we do this? 107 00:05:28.720 --> 00:05:29.279 I think so? 108 00:05:29.560 --> 00:05:30.839 You ready, let's do it. 109 00:05:31.079 --> 00:05:33.240 I've actually heard of this case, not that I could 110 00:05:33.279 --> 00:05:35.959 say I know much about it, but I had the 111 00:05:36.000 --> 00:05:37.879 title for once actually rings a Bell. 112 00:05:38.160 --> 00:05:40.839 Well, are you able to say anything that you know 113 00:05:40.879 --> 00:05:42.319 about it? Or is it just kind of like, hey, 114 00:05:42.319 --> 00:05:43.399 this rings a bell and. 115 00:05:43.279 --> 00:05:46.279 Like can't okay, I mean, as you go through, things 116 00:05:46.360 --> 00:05:49.959 might dawn on me. But the title was definitely I 117 00:05:50.000 --> 00:05:51.720 was like, oh, okay, this is a bigger case. I 118 00:05:51.720 --> 00:05:52.759 feel like it is. 119 00:05:52.759 --> 00:05:56.800 A bit of a bigger case for sure. Yeah, and 120 00:05:56.839 --> 00:05:58.959 it's kind of a brutal in a sense of what 121 00:05:59.000 --> 00:06:00.519 some of the people had to go through. That's a 122 00:06:00.519 --> 00:06:03.240 big part of this awesome yeah. 123 00:06:03.120 --> 00:06:08.639 Wow, because there's a lot of nasty motherfuckers in this world. 124 00:06:08.800 --> 00:06:12.279 Oh, there certainly is people who are shortage brutal things, 125 00:06:13.120 --> 00:06:18.079 and this is no exception to that case. Because yeah, okay, 126 00:06:18.199 --> 00:06:21.319 let's hear it, let's do it. So it starts on 127 00:06:21.399 --> 00:06:27.160 April twenty second, nineteen seventy four. This goes back to Ogden, Utah, 128 00:06:27.399 --> 00:06:30.240 where the Hi Fi Audio Store was about to close 129 00:06:30.279 --> 00:06:33.800 for the day. Now, Stanley Walker was twenty years old 130 00:06:33.800 --> 00:06:37.199 and Michelle Ainsley was eighteen. They were the only two 131 00:06:37.240 --> 00:06:40.040 employees on the shift of the time. They were preparing 132 00:06:40.079 --> 00:06:42.000 to finish up at the store for the day, which 133 00:06:42.079 --> 00:06:47.160 was located on twenty three oh nine Washington Boulevard. So 134 00:06:47.199 --> 00:06:49.839 the store, the High Fi Store, consisted of home audio 135 00:06:49.839 --> 00:06:52.480 equipment like speakers. I mean, this is a seventy so 136 00:06:52.600 --> 00:06:56.120 record players, stacks of records lined the walls, all this 137 00:06:56.160 --> 00:06:58.959 sort of stuff for popular music of the era, that 138 00:06:59.120 --> 00:07:00.120 sort of thing, right. 139 00:07:00.120 --> 00:07:01.839 Yeah, it probably would have been a popular store. 140 00:07:01.959 --> 00:07:05.600 Yeah, I'm thinking like HMV of the early two thousands 141 00:07:05.639 --> 00:07:08.519 and nineties. For me growing up with all the CDs everywhere, yep, 142 00:07:09.199 --> 00:07:14.319 well I just dated myself that, Yeah, you really did. Anyways, 143 00:07:14.600 --> 00:07:18.399 this one had records. So the two employees were cleaning up, 144 00:07:18.519 --> 00:07:21.199 getting ready to close the store, and just before they 145 00:07:21.199 --> 00:07:24.199 were ready to close shop and lock the doors, something 146 00:07:24.279 --> 00:07:30.920 unexpected happened. Some men entered the store. Some men entered 147 00:07:30.920 --> 00:07:36.079 the store brandishing handguns oh shit, yeah, and pointing them 148 00:07:36.160 --> 00:07:39.120 right directly in the face of the young workers. 149 00:07:39.439 --> 00:07:41.160 That's terrifying, yep. 150 00:07:42.319 --> 00:07:47.079 Now two workers were staring down the barrel of these guns. 151 00:07:47.399 --> 00:07:50.279 It was something quite literally out of a nightmare. But 152 00:07:50.839 --> 00:07:54.560 they kept their cool as best that they could. However, 153 00:07:55.120 --> 00:07:58.439 it's unfortunate though they wouldn't be the only ones involved 154 00:08:00.199 --> 00:08:03.879 the robbery just beginning to happen. Sixteen year old Courtney 155 00:08:04.079 --> 00:08:09.160 Nayspit would unknowingly stubble into the robbery and progress. 156 00:08:09.319 --> 00:08:11.600 Oh shit, like as a customer. 157 00:08:11.639 --> 00:08:14.199 Not as a customer. So a little bit of the 158 00:08:14.199 --> 00:08:19.079 backstory here. Courtney was running some errands earlier around town 159 00:08:19.879 --> 00:08:24.319 and he was friends with Stanley who worked at the store. Okay, 160 00:08:24.519 --> 00:08:26.759 so he was like, Hey, I'm running some aarons around town. 161 00:08:26.800 --> 00:08:29.040 Do you mind if I'm just like parking the store's 162 00:08:29.079 --> 00:08:31.920 parking lot, because like, parking is tough sometimes, right, so 163 00:08:32.039 --> 00:08:33.559 can I just use a store parking lot and like 164 00:08:33.600 --> 00:08:35.679 walk around, do my errands and come back grab my 165 00:08:35.720 --> 00:08:38.440 car and sort of thing. Okay, so he got permission 166 00:08:38.480 --> 00:08:40.960 to do so, and he was just returning from his errands, 167 00:08:40.960 --> 00:08:42.919 and he went to enter inside the store to thank 168 00:08:42.960 --> 00:08:45.559 his friend and express the gratitude being allowed to partner 169 00:08:45.600 --> 00:08:48.720 the car spot. And he entered the store and was 170 00:08:48.759 --> 00:08:53.080 greeted not with the usual friendly atmosphere, but instead with 171 00:08:53.159 --> 00:08:56.360 the sight of his friends standing still as the robbers 172 00:08:56.480 --> 00:08:58.000 brandished the gun in his face. 173 00:08:58.679 --> 00:09:01.360 Retal, that is just it's one of those moments where 174 00:09:01.440 --> 00:09:07.919 it's just really just the most shittiest timing kind of thing. Yeah, 175 00:09:08.240 --> 00:09:10.279 like you're really just in the wrong place at the 176 00:09:10.320 --> 00:09:10.840 wrong time. 177 00:09:11.159 --> 00:09:13.440 Yep. That's pretty much the gist of that. 178 00:09:13.399 --> 00:09:16.840 Because yeah, he could have just parted somewhere else and then, 179 00:09:17.480 --> 00:09:19.639 you know, wouldn't have to deal with what we're about 180 00:09:19.679 --> 00:09:19.919 to hear. 181 00:09:20.159 --> 00:09:22.399 Well, and even if he was just like, hey, thanks 182 00:09:22.600 --> 00:09:24.480 letting me park here, I'm going to go do my errands, 183 00:09:24.519 --> 00:09:26.240 I'll take off and I'll leave you be. Instead of 184 00:09:26.240 --> 00:09:26.799 bothering you. 185 00:09:26.759 --> 00:09:29.840 Again, oh, instead of being nice and thanking again. 186 00:09:30.440 --> 00:09:34.279 Right, but instead instead of popping in his car and 187 00:09:34.440 --> 00:09:36.759 taken off. He went back in to see his friend 188 00:09:36.799 --> 00:09:39.559 again for a second time to say thank you. Yeah, 189 00:09:39.600 --> 00:09:41.279 and that's what caught him in the situation. 190 00:09:41.639 --> 00:09:42.000 Dang. 191 00:09:43.039 --> 00:09:45.919 So the men of course quickly noticed him entering the store, 192 00:09:46.320 --> 00:09:50.240 and of course quickly apprehended him as well. So now 193 00:09:50.519 --> 00:09:54.759 they had three hostages if you will, or victims, and 194 00:09:54.799 --> 00:09:56.960 they took the three of them and directed them down 195 00:09:56.960 --> 00:10:01.559 to the basement of the store. They were there, each 196 00:10:01.799 --> 00:10:03.720 were forced to lay down on the ground on their 197 00:10:03.720 --> 00:10:06.559 stomachs and they began to tie them up, binding their 198 00:10:06.600 --> 00:10:08.000 hands and feet together. 199 00:10:08.360 --> 00:10:08.799 Jeez. 200 00:10:09.759 --> 00:10:12.080 As the three were being bound in the store, the 201 00:10:12.159 --> 00:10:15.720 robbers were looking through the store's stock. Time was ticking by. 202 00:10:16.080 --> 00:10:18.120 They needed to figure out what exactly they were going 203 00:10:18.200 --> 00:10:20.679 to do, right, They're clearly here to rob the store, 204 00:10:21.080 --> 00:10:22.639 so they're kind of keeping an eye out through the 205 00:10:22.639 --> 00:10:23.600 whole process. 206 00:10:24.440 --> 00:10:24.679 Now. 207 00:10:24.679 --> 00:10:27.200 It was also during this that time was beginning to 208 00:10:27.440 --> 00:10:31.320 Like I say, tick By and Stanley should have been 209 00:10:31.360 --> 00:10:34.480 home by now from work, and Courtney was also expected 210 00:10:34.480 --> 00:10:36.159 to be home by now, But for some reason, it 211 00:10:36.200 --> 00:10:39.320 seemed the errands were taking a little too long. So 212 00:10:39.799 --> 00:10:43.840 concerned for their children's safety, Stanley's father or in Walker 213 00:10:44.240 --> 00:10:49.279 and Courtney's mother, Carol Naysbit, would each separately go out 214 00:10:49.559 --> 00:10:50.759 in search of their own kids. 215 00:10:50.919 --> 00:10:53.039 Okay, they were on it, Hey they were. 216 00:10:53.600 --> 00:10:55.759 And now, remember this is the seventies two, because this 217 00:10:55.879 --> 00:10:58.840 is before social media, this is before cell phones. So 218 00:10:58.879 --> 00:11:01.559 you can't just be like, hey, I'm gonna send you 219 00:11:01.600 --> 00:11:03.879 a text or I'm going to Facebook or Instagram or 220 00:11:03.919 --> 00:11:06.320 snapchat you. It's uh no, if you want to get 221 00:11:06.320 --> 00:11:08.039 a hold of someone, you actually have to go out 222 00:11:08.080 --> 00:11:14.000 and physically track them down. So Carol, let's start with her, 223 00:11:14.080 --> 00:11:16.200 would make her way to the high Fi shop as 224 00:11:16.200 --> 00:11:19.039 she knew her son Courtney had probably made his way 225 00:11:19.080 --> 00:11:21.840 there to see his friend Stanley. Now, she parked a 226 00:11:21.879 --> 00:11:23.720 car at the rear of the store, of course, seeing 227 00:11:23.720 --> 00:11:24.720 her son's car there. 228 00:11:24.600 --> 00:11:25.519 Too, right, Yep. 229 00:11:25.759 --> 00:11:28.240 She entered through the back of the store. I'm assuming 230 00:11:28.240 --> 00:11:30.440 by this point she's probably pretty familiar with the staff 231 00:11:30.679 --> 00:11:32.960 because her friend's there lots. She knew to go there, 232 00:11:33.200 --> 00:11:34.919 so I'm sure she's been in and out quite a bit. 233 00:11:35.840 --> 00:11:37.720 She was on a mission, and I'm pretty sure it 234 00:11:37.759 --> 00:11:40.279 was with an angry mother's intent, because she just kind 235 00:11:40.320 --> 00:11:43.879 of like barged in looking for her son, and of course, 236 00:11:43.919 --> 00:11:46.399 looking for an explanation, being like, what the fuck, why 237 00:11:46.399 --> 00:11:48.440 are you out here? Spokes to be doing errands? Now, 238 00:11:48.440 --> 00:11:53.279 you're just chilling at the record store, right, So she 239 00:11:53.480 --> 00:11:56.279 flung the back door open and walked into the shop. 240 00:11:57.240 --> 00:12:00.279 She was met instantly with one of the robbers and 241 00:12:00.320 --> 00:12:03.360 a gun pointed directly in her face, and he shouted 242 00:12:03.480 --> 00:12:07.200 what are you doing here? Man? And without missing a beat, 243 00:12:07.399 --> 00:12:09.559 even with the gun in her face, she replied, I'm 244 00:12:09.639 --> 00:12:11.559 checking on my son. What's going on here? 245 00:12:12.559 --> 00:12:15.679 Seriously, like she was just like on a mission, hey, 246 00:12:15.759 --> 00:12:17.080 like get the fuck out of my way. 247 00:12:17.200 --> 00:12:19.000 Yeah, a gun in her face and she's like, what 248 00:12:19.039 --> 00:12:19.960 the fuck are you doing? 249 00:12:20.600 --> 00:12:21.200 Wow? 250 00:12:21.519 --> 00:12:23.799 Props to her because I probably would have wet myself 251 00:12:23.799 --> 00:12:24.519 in that situation. 252 00:12:24.879 --> 00:12:28.519 Yeah, I know, you almost feel like your instinct would well, 253 00:12:28.600 --> 00:12:31.080 I don't know, like turn around and leave. But like 254 00:12:31.159 --> 00:12:33.000 then your son's also in there, so you got to 255 00:12:33.039 --> 00:12:33.799 get your shit together. 256 00:12:34.159 --> 00:12:36.000 And to be fair, like it could have been shock 257 00:12:36.360 --> 00:12:39.320 as well. That put that sort of facade on. Yeah, 258 00:12:39.720 --> 00:12:42.759 not even realizing like what is in her face right now, 259 00:12:42.759 --> 00:12:46.399 she's just got someone like back talking to her and 260 00:12:46.440 --> 00:12:48.679 she's just like, well, where's my son? Before she even 261 00:12:49.080 --> 00:12:50.399 notices that it's a gun. 262 00:12:50.200 --> 00:12:52.480 You know, because she knows her son is in there, and. 263 00:12:52.480 --> 00:12:55.600 Yeah, yeah, but regardless of why or how this played out, 264 00:12:55.639 --> 00:12:59.080 she did that and that is awesome in my opinions. Yeah, 265 00:12:59.159 --> 00:13:02.759 so props to her for for that. So with this, 266 00:13:02.879 --> 00:13:06.879 more of the robbers came running up the stairs seconds later, 267 00:13:06.919 --> 00:13:11.120 and they would take Carol downstairs to where her son 268 00:13:11.279 --> 00:13:12.519 was bound laying on the floor. 269 00:13:12.639 --> 00:13:14.279 Dang it. So she did not get away. 270 00:13:14.480 --> 00:13:18.799 She did not. So Courtney, when his mother walked in upstairs, 271 00:13:18.919 --> 00:13:24.519 immediately recognized his mom's voice, and then she would be 272 00:13:24.600 --> 00:13:27.639 forced downstairs. She would see her son laying on the floor. 273 00:13:27.720 --> 00:13:29.960 She too would be forced on the floor and bound. 274 00:13:31.159 --> 00:13:32.960 They never spoke a word to each other as they 275 00:13:33.039 --> 00:13:34.440 laid next to each other. 276 00:13:34.799 --> 00:13:37.840 Dang no, I mean, and that would be such a 277 00:13:37.879 --> 00:13:40.440 feeling for Courtney because like I think he'd be kind 278 00:13:40.480 --> 00:13:43.159 of relieved, like wow, like my mom's here, like maybe 279 00:13:43.200 --> 00:13:46.240 she can help me, But then also like shit, now 280 00:13:46.279 --> 00:13:48.600 my mom's in the same situation. Like it would be 281 00:13:48.639 --> 00:13:49.600 such mixed emotion. 282 00:13:49.840 --> 00:13:52.600 It would be because especially it's like my mom's here 283 00:13:53.480 --> 00:13:56.039 because of me, not because of him, don't get me wrong, 284 00:13:56.120 --> 00:13:59.080 but like she's she's here searching for me. 285 00:13:59.200 --> 00:14:02.159 Yeah, oh yeah, yeah. 286 00:14:02.240 --> 00:14:04.399 It's not in any way, shape or form Courtney's fault. 287 00:14:04.440 --> 00:14:08.320 I want to clarify that. But it's like she's here 288 00:14:08.639 --> 00:14:09.440 because I'm here. 289 00:14:09.720 --> 00:14:11.440 Yeah. 290 00:14:11.720 --> 00:14:15.360 So Stanley's father or in would find himself in the 291 00:14:15.480 --> 00:14:18.159 very same situation. He would go to the store in 292 00:14:18.200 --> 00:14:20.039 search of his son, who was supposed to have closed 293 00:14:20.120 --> 00:14:22.720 up shift and be home by now, and was greeted 294 00:14:22.960 --> 00:14:25.480 again with a gun in his face. Was then led 295 00:14:25.519 --> 00:14:28.120 to the basement. Was that thrown on the floor and 296 00:14:28.159 --> 00:14:29.840 tied up just like the rest. 297 00:14:30.519 --> 00:14:34.879 It's surprising to me that they kind of come, they 298 00:14:34.879 --> 00:14:37.480 get in there, and they're met with the because there's 299 00:14:37.519 --> 00:14:41.360 only two robbers right like that, it's not startling to 300 00:14:41.399 --> 00:14:43.679 these robbers that these people are coming in or that 301 00:14:43.759 --> 00:14:44.799 the doors aren't locked. 302 00:14:44.799 --> 00:14:48.840 And like, I haven't actually said how many robbers there are. 303 00:14:49.200 --> 00:14:54.440 Oh shit, okay, I did that on purpose. However, since 304 00:14:54.480 --> 00:14:57.960 you asked, I will explain and divulge a little bit 305 00:14:58.000 --> 00:15:04.120 of that information. There are reportedly a total of six robbers, 306 00:15:04.120 --> 00:15:09.240 holy shit, two of which are dealing with the vehicles 307 00:15:09.279 --> 00:15:12.559 outside the two vans that had pulled up, Two of 308 00:15:12.600 --> 00:15:16.039 which who are dealing with moving equipment from out of 309 00:15:16.080 --> 00:15:19.080 the store into the vans, and two of which that 310 00:15:19.159 --> 00:15:21.799 are holding the guns and holding the hostages captive. 311 00:15:22.240 --> 00:15:24.320 Okay, that's a lot of people then. 312 00:15:24.240 --> 00:15:26.759 Yes, so I'll be talking about that a little bit 313 00:15:26.840 --> 00:15:29.000 later on. But that is the primary information on it. 314 00:15:29.080 --> 00:15:31.960 But I'll be talking about that a little bit later on. So, 315 00:15:32.200 --> 00:15:37.159 now these six robbers had a total of five captives 316 00:15:37.480 --> 00:15:39.639 and they decided not only to rob the place, but 317 00:15:39.679 --> 00:15:42.720 they needed to ensure they got rid of any witness 318 00:15:42.840 --> 00:15:46.480 that they had. And this is where things get dark. 319 00:15:47.679 --> 00:15:50.279 So one of the men was pacing the basement with 320 00:15:50.320 --> 00:15:52.639 all their captive laying on the floor in front of him, 321 00:15:52.919 --> 00:15:56.759 and after a few moments, he grabbed a jug and 322 00:15:56.799 --> 00:16:02.360 began pouring a cup of mysterious blue liquid. He approached 323 00:16:02.559 --> 00:16:06.360 the mother Carol and said we're going to have a 324 00:16:06.360 --> 00:16:12.120 little cocktail party. Then he proceeded to force the drink 325 00:16:12.399 --> 00:16:16.279 down her throat, forced the contents that he claimed was 326 00:16:16.360 --> 00:16:20.480 just a mix of vodka and sleeping pills. He pulled 327 00:16:20.480 --> 00:16:22.919 her hair back and forced it in her mouth and 328 00:16:23.000 --> 00:16:28.519 forced her to drink immediately. With this touching her tongue, 329 00:16:29.039 --> 00:16:32.080 she began to gag and cough on the liquid as 330 00:16:32.080 --> 00:16:34.720 it was spewing from her mouth and nose. It left 331 00:16:34.720 --> 00:16:39.879 her lying on the floor desperately gasping for air. The 332 00:16:40.000 --> 00:16:43.879 reason for her violent reaction was she was just forced 333 00:16:44.159 --> 00:16:46.399 to drink a cup of draino. 334 00:16:48.000 --> 00:16:51.960 Yep, okay, that is ringing a bell. That is brutal. 335 00:16:52.360 --> 00:16:56.759 Yeah, it is so draino. Just for a little background 336 00:16:56.799 --> 00:17:04.119 on this product, it contains several harsh chemicals which include lye, aluminium, salt, bleach, 337 00:17:04.359 --> 00:17:09.000 sodium nitrate, and of course a plethora of others. The 338 00:17:09.119 --> 00:17:15.279 lye being a very primary ingredient which rapidly dissolves organic material. 339 00:17:15.799 --> 00:17:17.759 Holy shit, it is. 340 00:17:17.680 --> 00:17:20.799 What makes draino draino because it dissolves things like hair 341 00:17:21.200 --> 00:17:24.440 in your oh my god, for example. So it will 342 00:17:24.440 --> 00:17:28.440 dissolve dissolve organic material like hair, grease and skin cells. 343 00:17:29.759 --> 00:17:30.160 Wow. 344 00:17:30.359 --> 00:17:36.400 It's essentially an or an acid for organic material. So 345 00:17:36.599 --> 00:17:40.319 one by one the robber began to force his hostages 346 00:17:40.359 --> 00:17:43.920 to drink the draino. He walked back to the bottle, 347 00:17:44.559 --> 00:17:47.799 filled up the cup, and approached his next victim and 348 00:17:47.960 --> 00:17:49.200 forced it down their gullet. 349 00:17:49.839 --> 00:17:52.440 Oh gosh, does it I don't even know, Like if 350 00:17:52.440 --> 00:17:55.839 that would kill you it like quickly, I don't know. Okay, 351 00:17:56.200 --> 00:17:59.640 just keep listening here, those terrible visuals here. 352 00:17:59.720 --> 00:18:05.000 Yeah, it's not fun, I'm sure. So. Time and time 353 00:18:05.039 --> 00:18:08.960 again forced the liquid upon them, and the draina would 354 00:18:09.000 --> 00:18:13.480 cause excruciatingly severe pain for each of them. The fumes 355 00:18:13.559 --> 00:18:16.480 alone were enough to be burning their eyes, and the 356 00:18:16.599 --> 00:18:22.440 chemicals were causing severe blistering, bleeding and convulsions in the victims. 357 00:18:22.559 --> 00:18:26.759 Oh my gosh, their mouths, tongues, and throats were just 358 00:18:26.920 --> 00:18:32.759 being burned and melted. They were bleeding and violently vomiting 359 00:18:32.839 --> 00:18:37.680 in the process. Unhappy with the fact that the chemical 360 00:18:37.839 --> 00:18:42.039 was being regurgitated, the robber then decided he was going 361 00:18:42.079 --> 00:18:45.599 to pour the chemical in their mouth holy shit, and 362 00:18:45.680 --> 00:18:51.599 then tape their mouth shut, ensuring no liquid would escape. 363 00:18:52.559 --> 00:18:57.359 Okay, I was not expecting that, Kay, who the shit 364 00:18:57.960 --> 00:19:01.160 like thinks about this kind of stuff? And like then 365 00:19:01.240 --> 00:19:03.960 also is a monster to go and do it? 366 00:19:04.359 --> 00:19:06.440 Yeah, douche canoes for sure. 367 00:19:06.720 --> 00:19:09.839 Yeah, I mean worse than that. Really, this that is just. 368 00:19:11.400 --> 00:19:13.599 Beyond monstrous. 369 00:19:13.960 --> 00:19:16.359 It's it's I feel like that would just be kind 370 00:19:16.359 --> 00:19:19.400 of almost on like the top of like terrible ways 371 00:19:19.400 --> 00:19:19.920 to die. 372 00:19:20.279 --> 00:19:26.000 Yeah, Well, his attempt to tape their mouths closed was unsuccessful, 373 00:19:27.480 --> 00:19:31.039 primarily because the skin around their mouths had all melted 374 00:19:31.079 --> 00:19:35.119 and peeled away, leaving their raw flesh exposed, and the 375 00:19:35.160 --> 00:19:38.359 tape refused to stick to the wet surface on their face. 376 00:19:38.839 --> 00:19:44.440 Oh I can't Okay, that's that is too much. Wow. 377 00:19:45.720 --> 00:19:49.720 The robber wasn't happy. What he wanted for his captives 378 00:19:49.759 --> 00:19:51.960 in the basement was to pass out as a result 379 00:19:52.000 --> 00:19:55.319 of the chemical and basically die in their sleep. Okay, 380 00:19:55.359 --> 00:19:59.200 this isn't happening. That's not even close to what this 381 00:19:59.319 --> 00:20:00.359 draino was doing to them. 382 00:20:00.359 --> 00:20:02.880 Well, yeah, they so they just literally thought that they 383 00:20:02.920 --> 00:20:05.559 would like consume this and then like be out and 384 00:20:05.720 --> 00:20:10.000 that's it. Yes, okay, I feel like that is like 385 00:20:10.119 --> 00:20:10.960 really stupid. 386 00:20:12.119 --> 00:20:16.079 Yes it is. Yeah, I'm not gonna lie lie to you. 387 00:20:16.279 --> 00:20:20.200 It's very stupid. They had reason to think this, though, okay, 388 00:20:20.240 --> 00:20:20.880 which I'll get. 389 00:20:20.799 --> 00:20:23.000 Into later because I feel like that's not how I 390 00:20:23.039 --> 00:20:25.920 would have imagined this to occur. 391 00:20:26.240 --> 00:20:29.799 No, no, me either. No. They were just hoping for 392 00:20:30.240 --> 00:20:33.160 like an easy, quiet death so they could just rob 393 00:20:33.200 --> 00:20:35.200 the place and move on. But here they are with 394 00:20:35.240 --> 00:20:41.279 people like vomiting, convulsive growing, like screaming, and it's brutal. Yeah, 395 00:20:41.319 --> 00:20:44.400 this wasn't easy or quiet in any shape or form. No, 396 00:20:45.279 --> 00:20:49.079 it was loud, messy, and since they were vomiting so much, 397 00:20:49.279 --> 00:20:50.759 I mean, of course, it's not even going to kill 398 00:20:50.759 --> 00:20:54.480 them at all because it's not staying in their system. 399 00:20:54.799 --> 00:20:56.720 So during this whole time, the robbers were in and 400 00:20:56.720 --> 00:21:00.279 out of the store upstairs loading the vehicle. They were 401 00:21:00.400 --> 00:21:03.359