Speaker 1: Right joining us now is Eric Peters, and he's no
Speaker 1: stranger of this program. We always love talking to Eric
Speaker 1: because he focuses on things dear to my heart and
Speaker 1: I think yours as well, liberty and mobility. And you
Speaker 1: can find Eric at Eric petersautos dot com. Thank you
Speaker 1: for joining us.
Speaker 2: Hark Oh, thank you for having me, David, Thank you
Speaker 2: for the wonderful introduction. I would only add sanity to
Speaker 2: your profile.
Speaker 1: Well, you do add sanity to our program. So it's
Speaker 1: always great to have you on. Especially I like the
Speaker 1: fact that you've got you've had since all this insanity
Speaker 1: began under Trump back in twenty twenty, you started putting
Speaker 1: out the Diaper Report, and you've got a new one
Speaker 1: which is the War Tax Report. And I think the
Speaker 1: titles that you chose with both of those say it all.
Speaker 1: Really it is the Diaper Report. And you've got a
Speaker 1: picture on your website of I think it's Japanese women
Speaker 1: or something who are and modeling. They're they modeling their
Speaker 1: underwear on the outside, and uh, and we all you
Speaker 1: always referred to it accurately as the face mask being
Speaker 1: the face diapers, and so that is still going on,
Speaker 1: that insanity here six years later, that's still going on.
Speaker 2: It is because it's not been cured. The article that
Speaker 2: I posted about this the other day was inspired by
Speaker 2: something that I saw at my bank. You know, I
Speaker 2: was sitting in my car and another car pulled up
Speaker 2: next to me, and in it was a woman by
Speaker 2: herself wearing her mask.
Speaker 1: And you know, Mike, with the windows rolled up right,
Speaker 1: it's not in a convertible.
Speaker 2: R My. My attitude is shifting a little bit. You know.
Speaker 2: Initially I used to feel irritated about about these people.
Speaker 2: You know, why don't you know, take the thing off?
Speaker 2: You don't have to wear it anymore. But I've come
Speaker 2: to realize that they have been so hystericized, so PTSD
Speaker 2: by the NonStop barrage of propaganda which they're continuing to receive,
Speaker 2: probably from their doctors, of all people.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you know, they.
Speaker 2: Go into the doctor's office and the doctor's probably wearing
Speaker 2: one of the things, so you know, where the nurses
Speaker 2: implying that it's a sensible thing to do. So, you know,
Speaker 2: I regard them almost as NPCs, you know that term,
Speaker 2: the non playable character. You know, I think that they
Speaker 2: have been damaged so severely by the people responsible for COVID,
Speaker 2: And that's what irritates me the most, far more so
Speaker 2: than the sight of some poor old person walking around
Speaker 2: wearing the facetiper. It drives me, Baddy, to think that
Speaker 2: doctor Fauci is walking free. Yes, all people who are
Speaker 2: responsible for all the misery, and that includes Trump got
Speaker 2: away with it.
Speaker 1: He gave me an award on the last day in office.
Speaker 1: He gave Faucio or all the people that did the
Speaker 1: warp speed operation on us. You know, they pulled a
Speaker 1: fast one on us. They didn't test anything. But of
Speaker 1: course we all know that there wasn't any pandemic. We
Speaker 1: know that by now. You know, earlier this week it
Speaker 1: came out that there is. You've got a lot of
Speaker 1: people who are looking at this thing and looking at
Speaker 1: the damage that's been done.
Speaker 3: There's been studies.
Speaker 1: Coming out of Europe talking about how there weren't any
Speaker 1: kids who died from COVID, but they're dying from heart
Speaker 1: disease from the vaccines. And at the same time, Pfizer
Speaker 1: Moderna have had to cancel their rollout of a new
Speaker 1: COVID booster because they said they couldn't get anybody to
Speaker 1: sign up for the test, and it's like, yeah, you
Speaker 1: didn't have that problem back when Trump was present because
Speaker 1: they didn't test anything. It was fast because he skipped
Speaker 1: the testing, right. And so there is a little bit
Speaker 1: of people who are waking up, but not enough. And
Speaker 1: of course there hasn't been any consequence for the people
Speaker 1: who pulled this over on us. What is happening is
Speaker 1: Jeffrey Tucker Brownstone pointed out, he said, this is a
Speaker 1: cancelation by the market, and it really is a cancelation
Speaker 1: by the people. And for the most part, this ended,
Speaker 1: all this diaper madness ended because people gradually just stopped
Speaker 1: complying with.
Speaker 2: It, exactly right, But there has yet to be accountability.
Speaker 2: Right a long time, when I worked at the Washington Times,
Speaker 2: I got to know Sam Francis. You're probably familiar with
Speaker 2: Sam Francis. He was sort of a paleo conservative writer
Speaker 2: and he came up with this idea that has that
Speaker 2: resonated with me at the time, and I still refer
Speaker 2: to it often. He called it a narco tyranny, and
Speaker 2: what he meant by that was that for the ordinary
Speaker 2: pleas people like you and I and most of the
Speaker 2: people listening to this show will will feel the full
Speaker 2: force and effect of the law if we jaywalk, you know,
Speaker 2: if we get caught driving without a seat belt. You know,
Speaker 2: we're expected to obey every law and held fully accountable
Speaker 2: if we don't. Whereas at the other end of the spectrum,
Speaker 2: the so called elites, the self self appointed elites, can
Speaker 2: commit the most egregious crimes Fauci for example. I mean,
Speaker 2: this is a man who destroyed the lives of millions
Speaker 2: of people, directly responsible for lots of death and permanent injury.
Speaker 2: Nothing happens to these people, and I think that's why
Speaker 2: we are now at this point in America where the
Speaker 2: rage is building, you know, particularly among the magades, you know,
Speaker 2: the people who voted for Trump, and I was one
Speaker 2: of them. I'm stupid enough, I got conned rolled again.
Speaker 2: I voted for this guy, you know, and it's bad enough,
Speaker 2: you know, to have to deal with, you know, radical
Speaker 2: leftist people who are but radical leftist people are going
Speaker 2: to do what they do. You know, you're not being
Speaker 2: betrayed by the radical left. They're pretty much upfront about
Speaker 2: what they're going.
Speaker 3: To do to you.
Speaker 2: But they're absolutely infuriating to be stabbed in the back
Speaker 2: by your supposed ally and friend. And I think that's
Speaker 2: why everybody, myself at any rate, are so upset about
Speaker 2: what's happening right now in the country.
Speaker 1: And I said that back in twenty twenty, I said,
Speaker 1: I would rather have somebody who is coming after me
Speaker 1: coming after me, you know, with a uniform and a flag.
Speaker 1: You know, they got their rainbow flag. I know exactly
Speaker 1: what they're going to try to take away from me.
Speaker 1: Rather than have a trader who's going to tell you
Speaker 1: he's behind you, he gets behind you and he stabbed
Speaker 1: you in the back. And I said, that's the way
Speaker 1: I see Trump. I said, I would rather deal with
Speaker 1: a Democrat because then people realize who the Democrat, what
Speaker 1: his harm is, you know, how he's going to come
Speaker 1: after them. Why are the Maga people that these billionaire
Speaker 1: pedophiles are getting a free pass from the Trump administration
Speaker 1: when he gave a free pass to the people who
Speaker 1: were killing people back in twenty twenty. You know, they
Speaker 1: saw that, they went ahead with it anyway, and now
Speaker 1: this is happening and they get angry. And I understand
Speaker 1: they should be angry, but why are they surprised that
Speaker 1: this is happening. Of course, after Trump fires Pam BONDI.
Speaker 1: The first question for Todd Blanche is, well, what are
Speaker 1: you going to do in terms of the Epstein documents
Speaker 1: and the people that committed these crimes? Well, what are
Speaker 1: you talking about? I don't know what you're talking about.
Speaker 1: We said if there was anybody that had done anything wrong,
Speaker 1: we would be after them. And so he's back to this.
Speaker 1: You know, I have no idea what you're talking about.
Speaker 1: I said when I talked about it, I says, very
Speaker 1: much like the Martin Short character they used to parody
Speaker 1: when he was a lawyeris.
Speaker 3: The lawyer in sixty minutes?
Speaker 2: Back executive people because I think that ordinary people who
Speaker 2: aren't really really disturbed mentally have difficulty understanding the mindset
Speaker 2: of people who are very disturbed, the psychopathic personality, because
Speaker 2: we sort of have an internal monitor check. We feel guilds, remorse, empathy,
Speaker 2: these things that cause us to shy away from icky,
Speaker 2: awful things like I don't want to be part of that,
Speaker 2: you know, And if I was part of it, it
Speaker 2: was inadvertent or I didn't think about it, and I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: I wish I hadn't done that. Yeah, So it's hard
Speaker 2: for us to imagine a person, you know who just
Speaker 2: doesn't care, you know, who's capable of lying to your
Speaker 2: face in the most egregious manner and then doing the
Speaker 2: most awful things and not feeling bad about it at all.
Speaker 1: Absolutely right. I've mentioned that many times. You go back
Speaker 1: to Ted Bundy, right, the serial killer and rapist out there.
Speaker 1: He's such a charming, good looking guy, and he's intelligent
Speaker 1: and all the risk of stuff, but he's just pure evil,
Speaker 1: and so normal people let their guard down. They can't
Speaker 1: imagine that there's anybody like Ted Bundy, right, And that's
Speaker 1: how he gets away with it, and that's how Trump
Speaker 1: gets away with it as well.
Speaker 2: We thought, some of us again, I raised my hand, mayacolpa.
Speaker 2: We thought, oh Trump got rolled in twenty twenty, you know,
Speaker 2: by the malevolent forces that came up with this COVID operation.
Speaker 2: You know, he was out of his deep he didn't know,
Speaker 2: you know, but you know now he knows, you know,
Speaker 2: now he's going to do the right thing. Well, he
Speaker 2: rolled us this way is what it turned it turned
Speaker 2: out to be.
Speaker 3: That's right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And as a matter of fact, when you look
Speaker 1: at what is happening, there is a perfect continuity to it. Actually,
Speaker 1: you know, if you look at the bigger picture of
Speaker 1: you know, where these people want to go. They know
Speaker 1: that we are in a period of time and it's
Speaker 1: kind of a natural cycle that happens, and the Fourth turning,
Speaker 1: you know many times we talk about that, and so
Speaker 1: we're in this and we're at the very end where
Speaker 1: you typically have some massive economic issue, you have institutions
Speaker 1: were rewired and all the rest of the stuff. Frequently
Speaker 1: there's revolutions and wars. So these people are aware of this.
Speaker 1: I mean they use all the terminology of Strauss and
Speaker 1: Hell talking about millennials and gen Z and gen X
Speaker 1: and all the rest of this stuff. But they won't
Speaker 1: talk about the Fourth turning. But they're preparing and they're
Speaker 1: using the Fourth turning. I think this is why we
Speaker 1: see all of the countries. I mean, it's really frightening
Speaker 1: to see what France and Germany are doing in terms
Speaker 1: of preparing for World War three. They want it badly
Speaker 1: and they are practicing mass evacuations. Of course, that's not
Speaker 1: being done here in America. We never plan on doing
Speaker 1: any civil defense. There was a plan to save themselves
Speaker 1: and let the rest of us die, and that really
Speaker 1: is the same plan here. They're not going to do
Speaker 1: any bomb shelters. Trump is freaking out because he wants
Speaker 1: them to hurry up and build his bomb shelter ballroom
Speaker 1: that's there, and so that should warn us on this side,
Speaker 1: as well as the massive build up in terms of
Speaker 1: money that France and Germany are spending, and of course
Speaker 1: Germany going into debt for the first time since World
Speaker 1: War Two. They don't they're always afraid to do that.
Speaker 1: But now everything is changing and it looks like they're
Speaker 1: really trying to maneuver us into a third World War.
Speaker 2: It's going to be interesting to see how they rolled
Speaker 2: their tanks when they don't have any gas.
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, I've read. I guess some of that solid
Speaker 3: rocket fuel. I guess.
Speaker 2: You know. One of the one of the aspects of
Speaker 2: this that it's not getting a lot of traction in
Speaker 2: the American news media is that in other parts of
Speaker 2: the world, Australia apparently has is just weeks away from
Speaker 2: having no fuel, and the situation in Europe is comparably dire.
Speaker 2: And you know, red hats will say, well, we're here
Speaker 2: in America, we don't have to worry about that. And
Speaker 2: I point out. Doug McGregor has pointed this out as
Speaker 2: well that in California, California imports most of it's oil. Yeah,
Speaker 2: where are they get their imported oil from. I've got
Speaker 2: you know, I've got family in southern California. My sister
Speaker 2: and her family lived there, and I was talking with
Speaker 2: my brother in law and they're currently paying about six
Speaker 2: dollars a gallon for regular unleaded.
Speaker 1: I had somebody on the program tell me they saw
Speaker 1: diesel at seven seventy nine a gallon, and that was
Speaker 1: last week. I was going to mention that, Well, that's
Speaker 1: just said, we're only two weeks away.
Speaker 3: Yeah, bb line. Yeah, a lot of.
Speaker 2: People who aren't familiar with this issue don't understand the
Speaker 2: diesel is actually more relevant than the price of gas
Speaker 2: because everything that we get is moved by a heavy
Speaker 2: trucks and by diesel electric locomotives and so on, and
Speaker 2: a lot of things that are distributed through throughout the
Speaker 2: United States enter the United States in California at the
Speaker 2: Port of la and then they have to transit over
Speaker 2: California to get to the rest of the United States.
Speaker 2: So these costs, you know, we're all worried about paying
Speaker 2: a dollar plus more per gallon the war tax every
Speaker 2: time we fill up our vehicles. But very soon we're
Speaker 2: probably going to be paying the war tax at the
Speaker 2: supermarket as well.
Speaker 1: You know you picked up that term, you know, the
Speaker 1: War Tax report and the date in terms of updates
Speaker 1: of that. I see that now in the mainstream media.
Speaker 1: They've caught on to what it is really, and it
Speaker 1: really is a value added tax. It's like the vats
Speaker 1: where they at every stage of production you get the tax.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I did some rough math too, I think
Speaker 2: put it in a sharper focus. The typical person who
Speaker 2: has a medium sized crossover suv with a fifteen gallon
Speaker 2: gas tank, they are currently now having to spend close
Speaker 2: to seven hundred and fifty dollars a year more than
Speaker 2: last year.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 2: So that means that Trump has raised taxes on average
Speaker 2: Americans more than any president that I'm aware of in
Speaker 2: the past thirty years.
Speaker 1: Well, he was bragging about that with the tariffs, you know,
Speaker 1: because the tariffs are at taxed as well. Absolutely, and
Speaker 1: he was bragging, I've got all this money from you know,
Speaker 1: the tax that It's like, where are there any conservative stuff?
Speaker 1: Do they realize that we don't want the money and
Speaker 1: the government's coffers. We want it at home. You know,
Speaker 1: we don't have any control over the federal budget, and
Speaker 1: we're not going to have any money for our household
Speaker 1: budget either if he keeps taking it for himself. He
Speaker 1: sounds just like Bernie Sanders. Look, you know, they're looting
Speaker 1: the treasury. They're going to have a tax cut or whatever.
Speaker 1: Trump is so excited because he's been accumulating all this
Speaker 1: money in his treasury. Well, where do you get that money?
Speaker 1: Got it from us?
Speaker 2: It's even work greed or so because at least burning
Speaker 2: nominally as a socialist and supposedly, you know, he wants
Speaker 2: to help the average person. Trump is helping the billionaire
Speaker 2: class and you know, the Wall Street class. Look that
Speaker 2: is over fifty thousand. In the immortal words of now
Speaker 2: ex Attorney General Pam Bondi, Yeah, from their point of view,
Speaker 2: if you're among that class of people, then sure the
Speaker 2: economy is doing gangbusters, but for the rest of us
Speaker 2: not so much.
Speaker 3: That's right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, when you look at who this benefits, it's going
Speaker 1: to benefit the oil companies, just like you know, he
Speaker 1: benefited the pharmaceutical companies. At our expense, is going to
Speaker 1: benefit the oil companies, is going to benefit the military
Speaker 1: industrial complex at our expense. But you know, you go
Speaker 1: back to you know, you remember the nineteen seventy three
Speaker 1: OPEC oil embargo, right. I think you're younger than I am,
Speaker 1: but I'm sure that you remember that. And then knock
Speaker 1: on effects, the fifty five mile an hour speed limit,
Speaker 1: all kinds of stuff.
Speaker 3: Now instead of odd.
Speaker 1: And even tags, they're talking about putting people on you know,
Speaker 1: digital ID so they can fine tune it to the
Speaker 1: individual as to when you can up and that type
Speaker 1: of thing. That's the insanity that we're looking at right now.
Speaker 1: They're going to use it as a means of control.
Speaker 1: People hate daylight savings time. I do too, but we
Speaker 1: had a year round daylight savings time because of the
Speaker 1: OPEK or oil embargo, and this is much much bigger
Speaker 1: than that. For Trump to say this isn't going to
Speaker 1: affect us just praise on the economic ignorance of his followers.
Speaker 1: I say that he's not about geopolitics, he's about ego politics.
Speaker 1: He's not about economics. He's about egonomics. And it really
Speaker 1: is true.
Speaker 2: He might be. He might be. What's I don't want
Speaker 2: to be I don't want to be two derogatory. He's
Speaker 2: in this, he's in this bubble. You know, he's a
Speaker 2: guy clearly who wants to be surrounded by sycophans. And
Speaker 2: I was talking with somebody about this the other day.
Speaker 2: I think that the analogy that that suits. And it's
Speaker 2: not because oh the Nazis, but Hitler was notorious for
Speaker 2: wanting yes men in his circle and would not buy
Speaker 2: anybody who was a truth teller, who would tell Hitler, hey,
Speaker 2: this military thing that you're contemplating doing, invading the Soviet Union,
Speaker 2: it's a really bad idea. You know, we haven't got
Speaker 2: the depth and logistics and so on to sustain this.
Speaker 2: It's not a thing. You shouldn't do it because it's
Speaker 2: going to be a disaster. He'd fire that general and
Speaker 2: he brings to Tody, you know, who would say, yes,
Speaker 2: mind fure or we will do it. And I think
Speaker 2: Trump's got people like that around him, anybody who will
Speaker 2: like you know, Joe kent't somebody like him and would say,
Speaker 2: mister President, this isn't a good idea. Here's why you're
Speaker 2: You're a trader, you're just loyal, You're out that's right.
Speaker 3: We all know that. Yeah, as a matter of facts.
Speaker 2: Couch chamber. He's got people telling him he's the greatest,
Speaker 2: most beautiful thing ever, and so he thinks he is.
Speaker 1: There was a clip where they had members of the
Speaker 1: cabinet or whatever in public, speaking in public, and I
Speaker 1: think it was Steven Miller who went first, and he
Speaker 1: does this flowery, sycophant flattering speech to Trump about how
Speaker 1: great he is about this, how great he is about that,
Speaker 1: and then he finishes and Trump says, well, that's pretty good.
Speaker 1: Let's see if you can do better than that to
Speaker 1: another member, and I forget who that was, and they
Speaker 1: start out the same type of thing that this is
Speaker 1: the most disgusting thing I've ever seen. This is why
Speaker 1: they're so dysfunctional.
Speaker 2: Quite frankly, Yeah, he's every day. You think, Okay, that's
Speaker 2: as far as it can go. They can't possibly go
Speaker 2: even farther. Now they're talking about putting his image I
Speaker 2: think on one hundred dollars bill or something like that.
Speaker 1: You heard about that it's a commemorative coin. Yeah, they've
Speaker 1: got a twenty four cart gold coin at least that
Speaker 1: they want to put his face on. And then for
Speaker 1: the money. I think that's what you're talking about. Put
Speaker 1: his signature on there, which president hasn't done in the past,
Speaker 1: has not signed the bill, but he wants to put
Speaker 1: a signature on. I hope it's I remember he had
Speaker 1: a signature on that birthday card in a very strategic place.
Speaker 2: Well, this is just a little bit vulgar. Yeah, it's
Speaker 2: indicative of a guy who's kind of low class, right,
Speaker 2: trans it's transgressed that now to the point of it's pathological.
Speaker 2: There's something out right with him in the mind, because
Speaker 2: you know, and it may have something to do to
Speaker 2: with him perhaps beginning to show stages of advanced or
Speaker 2: beginning senility, because any normal person would, if they even
Speaker 2: had that impulse, would restrain that impulse in their mind.
Speaker 2: They would realize, this is going to.
Speaker 3: Make me look like that's right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Aniac, I'm not going to do that. I want to,
Speaker 2: I'm not going to do it.
Speaker 1: I think when he puts his signature on the bill,
Speaker 1: I think you're going to have some people make up
Speaker 1: some stamps. You know, back in the day, the people
Speaker 1: I knew in the Libertarian Party had stamps that you
Speaker 1: could you could stamp the dollar bill and it was
Speaker 1: George Washington. What do we do is put out a
Speaker 1: little dialogue bubble there say I grew himp and it's
Speaker 1: I'm going to imagine people getting a stamp that matches
Speaker 1: up with Trump's signature and recreate that female hourglass shape
Speaker 1: that he used and stamp that over his signature.
Speaker 3: But then the currency that's there just remind people who.
Speaker 2: It's horrendous, you know, And as as much as we
Speaker 2: know bandied about and find some humor in it, it's
Speaker 2: really quite it's quite ominous. Things are now? What are
Speaker 2: we not even a day away from the next obliteration
Speaker 2: to follow the previous obliteration?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I know, yeah, And when you look at what happened
Speaker 1: over the holiday weekend, you know, he becomes this f
Speaker 1: bombing terrorist. The vulgarity as well as the stupidity of
Speaker 1: this stuff, and I hate we get to a situation
Speaker 1: where you got even people like Emmanuel Macron who sound
Speaker 1: rational compared to Trump. He says, maybe you don't talk
Speaker 1: every day because every day you say something and the
Speaker 1: next day you say something that's exactly the opposite. You
Speaker 1: need to get serious, is what he said.
Speaker 3: And I think he is serious or.
Speaker 2: He's being made to look like a loser and that
Speaker 2: tromp is absolutely tolerable. Yeah, and I think that he's
Speaker 2: not going to step step back and dial it down.
Speaker 2: I think he's going to increase it and right, Yeah,
Speaker 2: things up, that's right. And the thing is the rantings
Speaker 2: have shown they're fully capable of escalating in turn. So
Speaker 2: where does this lead us? Where do we go?
Speaker 3: That's right?
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's definitely to start lobbing nukes that are in
Speaker 2: and then it's you know, then it's probably all over
Speaker 2: for all of us.
Speaker 1: Well, he has guaranteed that they're going to have nuclear weapons,
Speaker 1: because he has shown that if you don't have nuclear weapons,
Speaker 1: you are vulnerable to attack for the United States for
Speaker 1: any reason whatsoever. Right, And that's the only way that
Speaker 1: you're going to be safe is if you've got nuclear weapons.
Speaker 1: So he's made it clear that they're going to get
Speaker 1: nuclear weapons now, regardless as you know, they we've been
Speaker 1: told by Net Yahoo they're always just two weeks away. Right, Well,
Speaker 1: they're going to get them now. And that's going to
Speaker 1: be on Trump and Net and Yahoo for doing that.
Speaker 2: Can you blame them? You know?
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, if you see a guy or you know,
Speaker 2: a guy who's getting constantly beaten up by a bigger guy.
Speaker 2: Would you blame that guy for going to the gym
Speaker 2: and maybe learning some crad Magrath going back and kicking
Speaker 2: the bullies butt in return?
Speaker 1: I was playing that, or go back and get a
Speaker 1: pistol or something like that. That's really probably if we're
Speaker 1: going to talk about going to nuclear weapons.
Speaker 3: That would be the better analogy.
Speaker 1: That the guy comes up and starts to hit him
Speaker 1: and he blows him away. That's the shame. And as
Speaker 1: they're looking at the people that are there. Of course,
Speaker 1: if he wanted regime change, there's already a lot of
Speaker 1: descent there in Iran. He just shut all that down. Now,
Speaker 1: the great Satan is America, not the Ayatola, And he
Speaker 1: just underscored that with his message holiday weekend saying, you know,
Speaker 1: praise Allah. Well, if that didn't if they didn't get
Speaker 1: the message before, they certainly got it with that, didn't they.
Speaker 1: And one of the things that sets me off, Eric
Speaker 1: is I hate to see these people who talk about
Speaker 1: forty seven. I even saw this video that some guy
Speaker 1: put up on social media saying this is prophetic. You
Speaker 1: realize that Trump is forty seventh president, right, and they've
Speaker 1: been after us for forty seven years. It all fits,
Speaker 1: you know, It's like, idiot, you don't even know when
Speaker 1: all the US Iranian stuff began. It began seventy three
Speaker 1: years ago. It began a nineteen fifty three way over
Speaker 1: through their elected government, and we put in a despot
Speaker 1: king and trained a ruthless secret police force, the Savak.
Speaker 1: I knew about that before the Iranians took over the
Speaker 1: US embassy because we had a lot of Iranian students
Speaker 1: that were going to usfhar I was and taking engineering classes.
Speaker 1: And these guys were protesting the Sean. They were doing
Speaker 1: it with balaclavas over their faces. I said, what are
Speaker 1: you guys doing that for?
Speaker 2: Well, it is a tragedy that so many Americans know
Speaker 2: absolutely nothing about the outside world or the actions of
Speaker 2: the US government the rest of the world, and they
Speaker 2: have this cartoonish image of America as the great writer
Speaker 2: of wrongs against all these benighted third world people, and
Speaker 2: it were out, take away our freedoms. It's absurd.
Speaker 1: Where do they get that image they get that's crafted
Speaker 1: for them by the CIA, running through Fox News and
Speaker 1: the New York Post and mainstream media for the most part,
Speaker 1: So you end up with.
Speaker 2: This juvenile, solipsistic view of the world where you can't
Speaker 2: step out of your own shoes and look at it
Speaker 2: from somebody else's point of view. And you can't do
Speaker 2: that if you don't have the facts. As you say,
Speaker 2: you know, most Americans are unaware of the fact that
Speaker 2: the CIA deposed the legitimate leader of Iran and imposed
Speaker 2: upon the Iranian people this awful person, the Shah, who
Speaker 2: used the secret police to brutalize the people. In the
Speaker 2: backlash to that was the Islamic Revolution. That's why the
Speaker 2: Islamic Revolution, that's why we got the Ayatola Comanean, That's
Speaker 2: why they did all the things that they did. And
Speaker 2: they don't trust us, and they don't like us, or
Speaker 2: at least our government, and it's understandable why they don't.
Speaker 1: Well, it's amazing when you look at it. You know,
Speaker 1: our government basically created the Ayahtoah as a blowback from
Speaker 1: what they were doing. And then when you look at
Speaker 1: all the different terrist organizations, right they start out with
Speaker 1: the Mujahideen that they're going to use against Russia in
Speaker 1: Afghanistan and then that morphs into al Qaeda, that mors
Speaker 1: into ISIS and into al Nusra and so forth. The
Speaker 1: next thing, you know, at the tail end of it,
Speaker 1: we are supporting those guys in terms of overthrowing Asad
Speaker 1: in Syria, and so we put in one of the
Speaker 1: al Qaeda Isis al Nusra guys to run Syria and
Speaker 1: he goes on this killing campaign, to killing Christians and
Speaker 1: ala white minority and all.
Speaker 3: The rest of that stuff.
Speaker 1: And so that's that's what the policy of the US
Speaker 1: government has been, to foment war, chaos, and disorder, and
Speaker 1: that's what's happening right now in Iran. They wanted regime change,
Speaker 1: Well you got it. Mission accomplished, I guess, except you
Speaker 1: made the regime worse. And it always does that with
Speaker 1: civilian civilian bombing campaigns.
Speaker 2: I think there's a silver line to this otherwise very
Speaker 2: dark cloud though, and it is that the people see
Speaker 2: not all of them. You know, there's still a cohort
Speaker 2: of the red hat crowd that doesn't see it, but
Speaker 2: by and large, most Americans, regardless of their political affiliations,
Speaker 2: do see it. This war is extremely unpopular and you
Speaker 2: know Americans. I talked to a lot of people. I've
Speaker 2: got a lot of friends who've got draft age kids.
Speaker 2: They don't want their kids going over there to kill
Speaker 2: and be killed potentially. Yeah, the city. They want nothing
Speaker 2: to do with it. You know, the whole raw raw
Speaker 2: yay America stuff that we saw back during the you know,
Speaker 2: the War on Terror and George W. Bush and all
Speaker 2: of that, that's not here now, at least not according
Speaker 2: to what I can tell.
Speaker 3: That's right, that's good.
Speaker 1: I tell you, it's like deja vu all over again,
Speaker 1: you know, like Vietnam and the unpopularity of Lyndon Johnson
Speaker 1: and anything. They convention that is coming up, and they
Speaker 1: oil embargo is, like I said, the only thing worse
Speaker 1: is if they bring back disco music.
Speaker 2: Did you catch Karen Katowski's piece on lou Rock Wild today?
Speaker 3: No? I didn't say what was it?
Speaker 2: Well, she made the point, and I thought this was
Speaker 2: very observant that the other evaluatory thing that's happened already
Speaker 2: is that we've seen that this colossus, this defense industry,
Speaker 2: and all of our fancy toys are essentially useless wastes
Speaker 2: of money. Yeah, you know, all of these advanced weapons
Speaker 2: systems that were forced to pay for through, our taxes
Speaker 2: are obsolete, their garbage, they're junk. So why are we
Speaker 2: spending money in all this stunk stuff when it obviously
Speaker 2: doesn't work. That's right, and you know, maybe it will
Speaker 2: be able to somehow dial back the so called Defense
Speaker 2: Department as a result of.
Speaker 1: This, well, I don't know, they'll just have a new
Speaker 1: round of killing machines or whatever. But I've talked about
Speaker 1: it many times. It was something that actually Lance showed
Speaker 1: me the book. It was called Kill Decision, and it
Speaker 1: was by what's the name of that guy in at Lance,
Speaker 1: Daniel Suarez, And that was about a decade or so ago,
Speaker 1: was it maybe longer? And he kind of war gained
Speaker 1: this whole thing out in terms of swarms of drones
Speaker 1: being the thing that equalizes and takes out even like
Speaker 1: aircraft carrier groups and stuff. So that's kind of where
Speaker 1: we are right now. And you know, spoiler alert if
Speaker 1: you don't want to hear the ending of the book.
Speaker 1: But the bottom line it was a threat that was
Speaker 1: created by the military industrialized complex so they could obsolete
Speaker 1: all these expensive weapons systems and saw a complete new line,
Speaker 1: you know, a version two point zero. But that's what
Speaker 1: we're seeing right now when you look at the way
Speaker 1: this war is being conducted, only of people who are
Speaker 1: doing it right are the Iranians. There was a guy,
Speaker 1: if I remember his name correctly, is Robert Pape, I think,
Speaker 1: and he wrote he did a study after Vietnam War saying,
Speaker 1: you know, why is it that we lost? You know,
Speaker 1: we look at how many bombs were dropped in Vietnam.
Speaker 1: We still wound up losing that. You know, that is
Speaker 1: the metric that we keep hearing from Warpeats Pentagon all
Speaker 1: the time. Well, look at how many bombs we dropped.
Speaker 1: We got to be winning, you know, all this kind
Speaker 1: of stuff. And I think it was General McGregor who
Speaker 1: or Colonel McGregor who said, yeah, that's the same kind
Speaker 1: of nonsense we heard in Vietnam and it didn't work
Speaker 1: then it's not working now. So this guy looked at
Speaker 1: it and he said, when I went back and I
Speaker 1: looked at the Korean War, it was even worse, and
Speaker 1: he said, and yeah, we lost that one as well.
Speaker 1: So I thought, you know, what isn't about these air
Speaker 1: campaigns that are not working. He wound up writing a
Speaker 1: book called Bombing to Win, and his point wise if
Speaker 1: you go in with these massive bomb strategies to just
Speaker 1: turn everything to dust. He said, that doesn't work. He said,
Speaker 1: what does work is to go tactically after the enemy's
Speaker 1: warfighting equipment, right, which is what we see Iran doing.
Speaker 1: You know, they're strategically going in attacking and attacking central
Speaker 1: radar points and so forth like that to take away
Speaker 1: the enemy's ability to conduct the war. And that demoralizes people.
Speaker 1: It doesn't demoralize them to bomb the civilian population. As
Speaker 1: a matter of fact, it strengthens morale to push back
Speaker 1: against that injustice. And the Pentagon just hasn't gotten that message.
Speaker 2: Yeah, these are not nighted bedouins. You know, i ran
Speaker 2: as a huge country and it's a very mountainous country,
Speaker 2: and very clearly they have been preparing for this eventuality
Speaker 2: for quite some time. Apparently they have got these underground
Speaker 2: cities where they've got all these drones and missiles and
Speaker 2: stuff that are essentially immune to any attack from the air.
Speaker 3: That's right.
Speaker 2: So what do we do?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 2: Now, Trump apparently is going to send in thousands of
Speaker 2: marines to capture carg Island, which will probably result in
Speaker 2: thousands of American casualties. And then, you know, after another
Speaker 2: embarrassing humiliation, not to mention the body count, what's he
Speaker 2: going to do. He's going to escalate, you know, and
Speaker 2: in his fury and demented rage, maybe he's going to
Speaker 2: launch a nuke or maybe he'll allow or egg on
Speaker 2: the Israelis to do it. And then what.
Speaker 1: Well, that is the plan though, you know, I mean,
Speaker 1: the Israelis want to do to Iran what they did
Speaker 1: to Gaza. Their strategy to get what they call Greater Israel,
Speaker 1: which is everything from the Nile to the Euphrates. Their
Speaker 1: strategy is to completely annihilate everybody else and then move
Speaker 1: in and you know, take over the corpse, the land
Speaker 1: that's left behind. That's what they're doing in God, That's
Speaker 1: what they want to do to Iran. And that's what
Speaker 1: they want to do to all the Golf states. And
Speaker 1: they know that if they continue egging on the US,
Speaker 1: and if Trump's ego lands and does that, then the
Speaker 1: Iranians are going to respond by attacking other Golf states.
Speaker 1: And so they will decimate the other Golf states as
Speaker 1: well and do the work for them. I think that
Speaker 1: is the long plan. I think is a big real
Speaker 1: estate deal for Krishna.
Speaker 2: They perhaps not pall it through is that they are
Speaker 2: bankrupting the sympathy account. You know, by large, people are
Speaker 2: turning against the State of Israel, and they're no longer
Speaker 2: equating criticism of what the State of Israel does with
Speaker 2: anti Jewish hostility. You know, people are making that distinction,
Speaker 2: and thank God for that. Yeah, you know it's not
Speaker 2: you know, you're not They can throw out the whole
Speaker 2: anti Semite thing. Well, I don't hate people who happen
Speaker 2: to be Jewish. I do hate Zionism. I do hate
Speaker 2: eb Nets and Yahoo. He's an easy man. I think
Speaker 2: that he should be arrested and put in prison for
Speaker 2: the rest of his life, if not something else.
Speaker 1: And there's a lot of Jews that'd agree with you
Speaker 1: as well. Yeah, and there's a lot of people in
Speaker 1: Israel that say the same thing, you know. I mean,
Speaker 1: we go back and we look at what Netanyahu did
Speaker 1: during COVID. He offered his people up as a sacrifice
Speaker 1: to Pfizer so they could get the front of the list.
Speaker 1: If they get the front of the list and they
Speaker 1: get people not only vaccinated, now they can travel and
Speaker 1: so forth and so on. And he offered them he said,
Speaker 1: you don't have any data use my people for that, right.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's absolutely no concern for his own people,
Speaker 1: just like Trump doesn't.
Speaker 2: Yep, and people see it. Now you've had enough of it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, you know you're talking about the war tax.
Speaker 1: You're talking about not only what it cost you to
Speaker 1: fill up the tank, but of course how this is
Speaker 1: going to percolate out into all these other different aspects
Speaker 1: from food to you name it, you know, even plastic containers. Right,
Speaker 1: we can't get the patrolling products. But you also talked
Speaker 1: about how the rising costs of everything have basically shut
Speaker 1: out the upcoming generation for me able to get cars
Speaker 1: and homes and that type of thing.
Speaker 3: Right. Yeah.
Speaker 2: There was a very depressing and infuriating commercial I saw
Speaker 2: the other day that was put forth by Uber that
Speaker 2: was romanticizing what I consider to be a dependency in
Speaker 2: perpetual childhood. It showed a young couple, you know, and
Speaker 2: instead of the guy going to pick up his date
Speaker 2: in a car, he gets out of the backseat of
Speaker 2: the uber, you know, and the two of them getting
Speaker 2: driven somewhere just like you know, when you were in
Speaker 2: eighth grade, you know, your dad drove to the junior
Speaker 2: prom and they're presenting this as somehow you know, this
Speaker 2: is this is cool, this is what you should do,
Speaker 2: and you know it's just it's it is nothing less
Speaker 2: than a tragedy that rising generation of kids finds that
Speaker 2: even something that we took for granted, you and I
Speaker 2: when we were that age, you know, having your first
Speaker 2: car might have been something of a jaloppee, but you
Speaker 2: could afford it. It was yours, you know, and you were
Speaker 2: able to go out and pick your friends up or
Speaker 2: your girlfriend up and go and have some fun. And
Speaker 2: you were, even at sixteen, a proto adult, you know,
Speaker 2: in a very real, real and meaningful way. Now you know,
Speaker 2: these eighteen and nineteen and twenty year olds might as
Speaker 2: well be twelve year olds, you know, because they're just stuck.
Speaker 2: They're dependent on their parents to take them places or
Speaker 2: a bus or train, and you know, they stay at
Speaker 2: home until they're thirty because they can't afford to move
Speaker 2: out of the house. Some of them are still there
Speaker 2: at forty.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: It's awful, no wonder, They're angry and no wonder, and
Speaker 2: this is what I'd read that you know, we're going
Speaker 2: to end up with some sort of leftist backlash, out
Speaker 2: of resentment and rage and fury at a system, and
Speaker 2: they're going to blame ironically, they're going to blame capitalism
Speaker 2: for it, as if I created this situation, which of
Speaker 2: course you didn't.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it all gets back to the liberty and mobility
Speaker 1: stuff as well, you know, because you know, used to
Speaker 1: be able to that was the big thing that I'd
Speaker 1: look forward to. I mean, when I was a kid,
Speaker 1: I was looking forward first to getting a bike. That's
Speaker 1: going to give me some extended range here. And then
Speaker 1: as you start to get older, it's like, well, let's
Speaker 1: see I get a motorcycle, said, my mom's not going
Speaker 1: to let me do that. That would give me a
Speaker 1: lot of independence that I had to wait till I
Speaker 1: got a car. But you know, by time I'm sixteen,
Speaker 1: you know, you're out there and you're able to do
Speaker 1: things like that. Now they're looking and of course this
Speaker 1: latest the Trump oil embargo, which is what I like
Speaker 1: to call it, instead of the opek. We got Trump,
Speaker 1: and so now the Trump oil embargo is going to
Speaker 1: be locking everybody down to work from home. You got
Speaker 1: five countries now that have mandated that for their government
Speaker 1: employees and some of them have gone a little bit
Speaker 1: further than that, as well as doing rationing, of filling
Speaker 1: up of gas and all the things that we lived
Speaker 1: through in the nineteen seventies. All these evil things are
Speaker 1: coming back. But this work from home and don't travel,
Speaker 1: you know, stay locked at home. This is a going
Speaker 1: back to the same mcguffin that we've had. They've tried
Speaker 1: this now. This is the third way that they've done this.
Speaker 1: They've done it by telling everybody you can't have any
Speaker 1: energy because we're going to burn the planet down with
Speaker 1: CO two. Right then they that was the climate mcguffin,
Speaker 1: and then they did the COVID mcguffin, say you got
Speaker 1: to stay at home because we're all going to die,
Speaker 1: you know, put on your mask and so forth. Now
Speaker 1: we've got another McGuff in, which is although a real
Speaker 1: problem this time it is something that Trump created.
Speaker 2: And the thing is this time they may not even
Speaker 2: have to do it overtly because it'll have been done economically.
Speaker 2: That's right right now, at current prices, if you've got
Speaker 2: a full sized truck or suv, it's going to cost
Speaker 2: you about one hundred and ten dollars. I used to
Speaker 2: fill the tank up. Who can afford that?
Speaker 3: I know?
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, even if you're driving a smaller vehicle,
Speaker 2: it's still sixty bucks, yeah, you know, to fill up
Speaker 2: the tank. And that's just not sustainable. It's not supportable.
Speaker 2: And by the way, you know an aspect of that
Speaker 2: that hasn't been talked about much that I think is important.
Speaker 2: GM and Ford particularly, their profits depend almost entirely on
Speaker 2: the sale of big SUVs and trucks. What do you
Speaker 2: suppose is going to happen to the sale the market
Speaker 2: when it costs one hundred and fifty dollars to fill
Speaker 2: up the tank of a pickup truck. They're going to
Speaker 2: be unselable. They're just going to sit there and it's
Speaker 2: going to cause General Motors and for to go bankrupt again.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's crazy, you know. I'm just telling you. We're
Speaker 1: celebrating our fifty fourth anniversary of our first state and
Speaker 1: we're talking about how much it costs to fill up
Speaker 1: a tank of gas. I said, yeah, you know, back
Speaker 1: in the day, we would you know, for twenty dollars,
Speaker 1: I could fill up the gas. I think I could
Speaker 1: take care into the movies as well as dinner for
Speaker 1: two and still had some change left over. It's crazy
Speaker 1: what's happened to our money. It's crazy the inflation that's there.
Speaker 1: And of course these are real increases in terms of
Speaker 1: it's what you talk about in your article, in terms
Speaker 1: of you know, the price going up. The car is
Speaker 1: about six times more expensive than it was when you
Speaker 1: first got your car. Homes are about four plus times
Speaker 1: more expensive than when you got your first home. So
Speaker 1: this is the kind of degradation of our lifestyle that
Speaker 1: these people are is the way they get us to
Speaker 1: the point where we own nothing, and they tell us
Speaker 1: that we're going to be happy with that. But I
Speaker 1: don't think people are going to be you.
Speaker 2: Know, I don't like the term inflation because I think
Speaker 2: it's dishonest. It's deeper than that. And I've got an
Speaker 2: example that I think makes the point very well. As
Speaker 2: you know. I've got my seventy six Transam and I've
Speaker 2: had that car for more than thirty years. I was
Speaker 2: able to buy that car when I was a young guy,
Speaker 2: still in my twenties, and I was able to drive
Speaker 2: it regularly because it only costs twenty dollars to fill
Speaker 2: that thing up now. And I bought the car at
Speaker 2: a time when I also had a mortgage, I was
Speaker 2: able to buy my first house around the same time.
Speaker 2: I can barely afford to drive that same car today,
Speaker 2: you know, and I'm almost I'm twice as old. And
Speaker 2: it's the point is my ability to buy things has
Speaker 2: been diminished to that extent. And the only reason I'm
Speaker 2: still able to indulge the trans am is because I
Speaker 2: bought it thirty years ago. There's no way I could
Speaker 2: afford to buy a car like that today, and you know, again,
Speaker 2: I can barely afford to drive it. Notwithstanding that at
Speaker 2: this point in my life, I should be more able
Speaker 2: to afford a car like that and more able to
Speaker 2: feed it. And I don't have a mortgage right now.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's how that's got well.
Speaker 1: I think Trump is going to accelerate this and send
Speaker 1: us down the hill really fast, because when you look
Speaker 1: at what he's doing, and also Biden kicked this off
Speaker 1: in terms of destroying the petro dollar, you know, they're
Speaker 1: really pouring gasoline on that fire. And once they do that,
Speaker 1: and once we are exposed to the full liability of
Speaker 1: this forty trillion dollar deficit, you know, Trump complains all
Speaker 1: the time about the trade deficit. But the one that
Speaker 1: really is an emergency is the budget deficit. He never
Speaker 1: talks about that, neither it is the Republican Party. Only
Speaker 1: Thomas Massey talks about that. And so that's going to
Speaker 1: be the thing that's really going to affect all of
Speaker 1: our lives, because that credit card bill is going to
Speaker 1: come due on mister and missus America real soon, I
Speaker 1: think absolutely.
Speaker 2: And you know, I'm glad you brought up the point
Speaker 2: about the petro dollar, because that is the thing that
Speaker 2: really counts as far as what's going on over in
Speaker 2: the Middle East. The Iranians and all these other countries
Speaker 2: are beginning to transact in other than dollars, that's right,
Speaker 2: the exporting more oil and getting more money for it,
Speaker 2: and they're going to get paid in other than dollars.
Speaker 2: And you know, when that, when that that whole thing
Speaker 2: comes to complete fruition, it will totally destroy the dollar
Speaker 2: and its power. And almost immediately overnight, we're going to
Speaker 2: find ourselves think inflation is bad now, it's devaluation. Whatever
Speaker 2: money we still have will be able to buy even less, right,
Speaker 2: And you know, I guess at that point, you know,
Speaker 2: desperate people once they have completely inserved. They've already inserved
Speaker 2: the working income people. Now they're going to inserf middle
Speaker 2: income people, and then they're going to have achieved what
Speaker 2: they want, which is this, this society in which you know,
Speaker 2: two or three percent at the very top pretty much
Speaker 2: have everything and everybody else has nothing. That's what they're
Speaker 2: that's what they're.
Speaker 1: After all that's right, and that is the Trump classes.
Speaker 1: I we should call about the Trump society, because that's it.
Speaker 1: You know, they live in their high rise gilted skyscrapers
Speaker 1: and the rest of us just scrape by, you know, as.
Speaker 2: We do it, not even putting like a slight facade
Speaker 2: on it. Remember back during the Carter ero when Jimmy
Speaker 2: Carter at least had the decency to put a sweater on.
Speaker 3: Remember that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm to turn down a thermostat because I
Speaker 2: know it costs a lot to keep the heat on.
Speaker 2: Trump overtly says I don't care. He literally says, I
Speaker 2: don't care what people are paying for gas or anything else.
Speaker 2: And of course he doesn't care. Why should he know?
Speaker 2: It doesn't affect him.
Speaker 1: And part of the lie is that everything is going
Speaker 1: to somehow snap back to normal as soon as he's
Speaker 1: decided he's won the war. Well, it's not going to
Speaker 1: snap back to normal. We are still suffering from the
Speaker 1: insanity that he inflicted on us six years ago with
Speaker 1: the COVID mcguffin. Things aren't going to come back right away.
Speaker 1: I mean, even if he had just messed up the
Speaker 1: supply lines like he did six years ago, but they
Speaker 1: are destroying production capacity. You can get your shipping stuff going,
Speaker 1: but they're not going to have anything to ship once
Speaker 1: they blow up all the oil refineries and these things.
Speaker 1: It's like a tinder box over there. He's gonna not
Speaker 1: He's not going to be happy until he set the
Speaker 1: entire mid Easter on fire, because that's what the Israelis want.
Speaker 2: It seems that way, yeah, And I think that is
Speaker 2: because that realization is beginning to percolate, and you know,
Speaker 2: Americans are asking the question, what's in it for me?
Speaker 2: Like what is the benefit to me of all of this?
Speaker 2: And they're realizing and there isn't and there are a
Speaker 2: lot of liabilities, and people are tired of it. The
Speaker 2: question is, you know, what next? What do we do?
Speaker 2: Do we have any recourse? And I guess my biggest
Speaker 2: worry at this moment is that Trump actually has gained
Speaker 2: this all out because you think that purely from a
Speaker 2: cynical point of view. You know, he understands there's a
Speaker 2: midterm election not that far away now, and then not
Speaker 2: only would that mean potentially he's politically neutered, but you know,
Speaker 2: if there's a big backlash and the House and the
Speaker 2: Senate end up in the hands of the Democrats, that
Speaker 2: he might face more than just an impeachment this time.
Speaker 2: Maybe he doesn't care because he knows they aren't going
Speaker 2: to be midterms. Maybe he's going to declare an emergency
Speaker 2: like he did back in twenty twenty, and you know
Speaker 2: he'll become oursilenzki El Presidente for life or at least
Speaker 2: as long as his diabetes or whatever else is wrong
Speaker 2: with him does catch up to him.
Speaker 1: Well, that would definitely kick off the revolution that I
Speaker 1: think they both sides want if he cancels the elections.
Speaker 1: But of course he saw the clip of CPAC, didn't
Speaker 1: you with a guy who's running the thing gets up there? Yeah,
Speaker 1: how many of you want to see a patriot? Yeah?
Speaker 3: And patriot no wrong answer for a moment.
Speaker 2: That one of the most striking things about current events
Speaker 2: right now. Is that you've got this strange juxtaposition. You know,
Speaker 2: during the COVID years, people were pointing out how the
Speaker 2: people on the left were in a cult. They were
Speaker 2: wearing their masks and they were performing rituals just like
Speaker 2: people in a cult. Now you've got people who are
Speaker 2: on the right who are criticizing those people, and they're
Speaker 2: in a cult. That's right, you know their cult leaders
Speaker 2: Trump and whatever. Trump says, yeah, it's it's received truth
Speaker 2: from Mount Sinai.
Speaker 1: It must be so, yeah, that's right. It's either Trump
Speaker 1: derangement or Trump delusion. There's two different sides of this.
Speaker 1: But I think it's kind of interesting when you look
Speaker 1: at I've seen some people getting back to cars. I've
Speaker 1: seen some people say well, now electric vehicles are going
Speaker 1: to have their day, and it's like, well, how are
Speaker 1: you going to be able to afford that?
Speaker 3: Number one? Number two?
Speaker 1: Are you going to be able to afford the electricity?
Speaker 1: We're going to see electricity skyrocket and price, not just
Speaker 1: a fuel that's coming down the pike. And you know
Speaker 1: it's when you look at their what Trump's focused on,
Speaker 1: and this really ought to scare people. This number one
Speaker 1: priority is artificial intelligence. And that's why I think, you
Speaker 1: know the the argument. I think you know when you
Speaker 1: look is Trump evil or just stupid? I want to
Speaker 1: flip over to the evil side. I think he really
Speaker 1: is doctor evil because that is the plan to dominate
Speaker 1: all of us, and that has been his focus from
Speaker 1: the very beginning of this administration, even more so than
Speaker 1: the crypto stuff. And of course a crypto comes with
Speaker 1: controls as well. If he switches us over to a
Speaker 1: stable coin environment, that's basically a privatized CBDC, so these
Speaker 1: people can make their cut on it. But when you
Speaker 1: look at the AI stuff, his very first day, he
Speaker 1: is out there talking about how they're going to use
Speaker 1: AI to make the custom make genetic code injections for
Speaker 1: us with MR and A. And now there's talk about
Speaker 1: how well the AI data centers are going to have
Speaker 1: to have some anti drone guns that are going to
Speaker 1: be driven by artificial intelligence. They're going to be able
Speaker 1: to find the targets and take them out. That was
Speaker 1: the same kind of defense system, by the way, that
Speaker 1: Israel had on their wall on October seventh, and either
Speaker 1: it didn't work too well or somebody shut it down.
Speaker 1: But they're saying we've got to protect the AI data centers.
Speaker 1: They're not going to protect our They're not going to
Speaker 1: protect our infrastructure. They're not going to protect our electricity.
Speaker 1: They're going to protect the electricity of the brain that
Speaker 1: is going to be used to spy on us and
Speaker 1: to control us. That's what they're focused on. From the
Speaker 1: very beginning, when Trump had that stargate thing, he said, well,
Speaker 1: you know, you guys are going to want to build
Speaker 1: your own data centers because you know, our infrastructure is
Speaker 1: getting pretty and it's unreliable and everything. And I said,
Speaker 1: on that day, I said, you hear that. He says
Speaker 1: the infrastructure is awful and he's not going to do
Speaker 1: anything to fix it. They're just gonna let it crumple.
Speaker 1: And and that's what he's now saying, Hey, we can't
Speaker 1: do anything with the welfare state or help people of
Speaker 1: Medicare or anything. We've got to We got wars to fight.
Speaker 1: That's what we want to do.
Speaker 2: And I had a bad feeling, and I should have
Speaker 2: paid more attention to my bad feeling. When was it.
Speaker 2: Within the first week after his inauguration he had that
Speaker 2: press conference with Altman and Ellison and that other guy.
Speaker 2: I can't remember.
Speaker 3: Yeah, star Stargate.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that was a guy from the Japanese guy
Speaker 1: from soft Bank in Japan.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And they do tell us, you know, they do telegraph
Speaker 2: what their intentions are, and sometimes we just, I guess,
Speaker 2: don't want to see it. And that was a case
Speaker 2: of I didn't want to see it. Okay, maybe you
Speaker 2: know whatever, it's not a big deal. It was a
Speaker 2: big deal.
Speaker 3: It's a Bundy moment.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was his priorities. And another thing about these
Speaker 2: data centers, it's really aggravating to me. They they're probably
Speaker 2: they're they're they're they're popping up in small town rural
Speaker 2: areas and the local people are getting to pay higher
Speaker 2: property taxes and everything else as a result of this.
Speaker 2: You know, they're coming in eminent domaining people's farms land
Speaker 2: to put up these things because oh they're going to
Speaker 2: get more tax revenue from the data center.
Speaker 1: Yeah that's right. And then it's this twenty four to
Speaker 1: seven noise and light show, you know that's going on.
Speaker 1: But the whole thing is being used. That is the
Speaker 1: They've been saving data for decades, right. I remember when
Speaker 1: the NSA opened up that big data center out in Bluffdale, Utah.
Speaker 1: And it's like, what, you know, why are they First
Speaker 1: of all, why are they putting it out in the
Speaker 1: desert where they need to have so much water as
Speaker 1: well as electricity, But you know, building these big centers
Speaker 1: to save everything. And I was talking to William Binnie,
Speaker 1: who is the global technical head for the NSA for
Speaker 1: quite a while and became a whistleblower. But you know,
Speaker 1: he said, they're saving everything on everybody. They don't have
Speaker 1: the technology yet to go through all of it. Well
Speaker 1: they do now, right, They're going to start using AI
Speaker 1: to audit every body, you know, just like they used
Speaker 1: it to audit for the Doge system, right, and just
Speaker 1: as we've seen Trump use it to audit the real
Speaker 1: estate transactions of his enemies, they're going to use it
Speaker 1: for everything, barrowing.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: Vashinsky, who was the Soviet judge of Nurrenberg and also
Speaker 2: the guy who presided over the show trials earlier in
Speaker 2: the Soviet Union, is reported to have said, you know,
Speaker 2: show me the man and I'll show you the crime.
Speaker 2: Right Yeah, And essentially what this is, they'll dig through
Speaker 2: your records, they'll find something, you know, maybe you you
Speaker 2: posted a mean tweet ten years ago, and now let's
Speaker 2: run a foul of the speech code and they can
Speaker 2: dredge that up and go after you for its rights.
Speaker 2: It's truly a horrible thing if you can imagine living
Speaker 2: in a world where literally everything that you do is
Speaker 2: known to these malevolent authorities that are just looking for
Speaker 2: a pretext, some reason, something that they can nail you for.
Speaker 2: We're not talking about moral crimes. We're talking about these
Speaker 2: technical crimes, which are lesion.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: It's kind of like you get pulled over for a
Speaker 2: seat belt violation or some other nonsense that has nothing
Speaker 2: to do with any harm you've caused to anybody, but
Speaker 2: it's against the law. It's a violation. Well, they're erecting
Speaker 2: the scores of violations, and we all commit violations all
Speaker 2: the time.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: The thing is we've been able to get away with
Speaker 2: it because there hasn't been up till now, this panopticon
Speaker 2: where they know everything you do the moment that you
Speaker 2: do it. Well, soon that's going to be the scenario.
Speaker 2: And it makes me want to run in the woods.
Speaker 2: That's right, and just living there.
Speaker 1: That's what Harvey Silverglate said a while ago. Three phlonies
Speaker 1: A day. He said, all of us are committing three
Speaker 1: phonies a day. We just don't know it, right, because
Speaker 1: the law has become so complex and so pervasive on
Speaker 1: every particular topic, and so now they'll be able to
Speaker 1: go back in onto us. It's the same kind of
Speaker 1: thing they did with Martha Stewart, Right, she didn't get
Speaker 1: convicted for insider trading. She got convicted because she said
Speaker 1: something that was, let's say, marginally untrue to the FBI,
Speaker 1: and they caught her in a contradiction. And that's the
Speaker 1: hallmark of what these lawfair cases are about. They want
Speaker 1: to get people into a situation, put them under oath
Speaker 1: so they can find some discrepancy and come after them
Speaker 1: for that, you know, for committing perjury, which is the
Speaker 1: bigger crime. We see that happening over and over again.
Speaker 1: And of course that's the key part about the income
Speaker 1: tax sign this under threat of perjury, and so then
Speaker 1: they go back and find anything on your income tax
Speaker 1: that isn't quite right, they can come after you for
Speaker 1: that type of thing. It's a perfect process crime to
Speaker 1: be able to go back and audit people with artificial
Speaker 1: intelligence for their tax reports and tax returns.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they're also going to be able to leverage economics.
Speaker 2: You know, during COVID, I of course ignored the lockdown
Speaker 2: orders and I go out, and I specifically went downtown
Speaker 2: to go to the regional hospital to have a look
Speaker 2: for myself, using my own eyes to see whether there
Speaker 2: were lines forming out in front, and whether there were
Speaker 2: corpses stacking up outside. In other words, to prove to
Speaker 2: myself that it was just not happening. And you know
Speaker 2: this was all hyped and exaggerated. Well, fast forward to now.
Speaker 2: You know, you're driving your connected car that emits telemetry
Speaker 2: about your movements and where you are, so they know
Speaker 2: that you violated a lockdown, and maybe they don't shut
Speaker 2: you down necessarily as far as your ability to drive,
Speaker 2: though they could do that, but they will shut down
Speaker 2: your ability to buy. That's right, because everything will be digitized.
Speaker 2: So then you go to the store after you you know,
Speaker 2: you commit your heretical act by driving somewhere where you're
Speaker 2: supposedly not allowed to go, and you find that your
Speaker 2: digitized dollars don't work. You know, you've been precluded from
Speaker 2: buying anything as punishment for having transgress the other rule.
Speaker 2: That's where we're headed.
Speaker 1: That's right, that's absolutely right. They started doing that with
Speaker 1: the climate mcguffin, you know, saying, well, you know, you're
Speaker 1: going to destroy the planet if you have if you
Speaker 1: travel too much, you have too much meat to eat,
Speaker 1: and that type thing. So we've got to track all
Speaker 1: that stuff and keep an inventory of that. It is
Speaker 1: a total pan optagon of surveillance, and that's really what
Speaker 1: these data centers are about. That's one of the reasons
Speaker 1: why Trump is making sure that there's not going to
Speaker 1: be any state legislation to stop them. You know, they
Speaker 1: are adamant that they're going to control it solely from Washington,
Speaker 1: and to say that that is to say there's not
Speaker 1: going to be any control, just like it is the
Speaker 1: pharmaceutical companies. I played the clip of of Woody Harrelson
Speaker 1: three years ago when he went on Saturday Night Live
Speaker 1: and he said, they gave me this movie script. I
Speaker 1: went out into the Central Park, sit down and start
Speaker 1: reading it. And he goes so that you won't believe
Speaker 1: this movie script. He says, you get all the biggest
Speaker 1: drug cartels get together and form one group, and they
Speaker 1: buy up all the media companies and everything. They force
Speaker 1: everybody to take their drug and keep forcing him to
Speaker 1: take it over and over again. He said, I set
Speaker 1: it down. I said, that's too unbelievable. Nobody would believe that. Well,
Speaker 1: he had to do that on Saturday Night Live because
Speaker 1: if he did it on a recorded program, the network
Speaker 1: would shut him down because the network has been bought
Speaker 1: by the big pharmaceutical companies. That's why he did it
Speaker 1: on live TV. So, you know, that's really where we
Speaker 1: are right now, and these people are going to be
Speaker 1: watching everything that we do and shutting us down in
Speaker 1: real time. And Trump is fully on board with that.
Speaker 1: He's clearing the decks to make sure that the digital
Speaker 1: surveillance police state is right there. And I think that's
Speaker 1: a big part of what's going on with ICE. It's
Speaker 1: not so much about the immigration thing, is it is
Speaker 1: about creating a federalized police force that's going to be
Speaker 1: characterized by excessive force.
Speaker 2: And normalizing the site.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: You know, Americas are getting used to, just like you
Speaker 2: know people are now used to when they fly, having
Speaker 2: to deal with these government goons rifling through their possessions
Speaker 2: and touching them. Yeah, you know, which is something that
Speaker 2: never would have been conceivable to Americas to have the
Speaker 2: memory to recall what this country was like before there
Speaker 2: was such a thing as the TSA. Nobody touched you, nobody,
Speaker 2: you know, to be a criminal, before an authority figure
Speaker 2: would lay hands on you. Now it's been routinized. Well
Speaker 2: now now it's being routinized to see these body armored
Speaker 2: uh you know, automatic weapon toating people. And not only
Speaker 2: that that they can just grab people and rom under
Speaker 2: the back of a van and take them somewhere. That's
Speaker 2: being normalized.
Speaker 1: Well, they wear the mask. There's your diaper report right exactly,
Speaker 1: the massed ice agents that are out there, and and
Speaker 1: the other thing too. Talk about delusion all the people
Speaker 1: when you know ts HE wasn't getting paid because the
Speaker 1: government is so dysfunctional they can't even pay their own goons.
Speaker 1: And then everybody saying we got to get them paid
Speaker 1: somehow because we've got to be able to travel. Instead
Speaker 1: of saying, yeah, let's get rid of the TSA, we
Speaker 1: don't need it. Instead of saying that, they say, how
Speaker 1: are we going to get these guys paid? This is horrible.
Speaker 1: I need my security police back, you know, it's like
Speaker 1: give me back my security blanket.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's absolutely terrible and I think Americans still are
Speaker 2: beginning to be aware of what's going on. So the
Speaker 2: question then becomes, what do we do.
Speaker 3: How to fight this? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think you know, facing it is the
Speaker 2: first step. Being aware, being realistic with yourself about what
Speaker 2: we're up against is important. And maybe the next thing
Speaker 2: to do is just to withdraw your consent. As a
Speaker 2: lot of classical libertarians, I would say, just don't go
Speaker 2: along with it, at least in your head, rejected, and
Speaker 2: if everything you can to not be involved with it.
Speaker 1: I've never been more sure of anything in my life
Speaker 1: than the nonsense of that. And we look at the
Speaker 1: reactions of people very much like your story there, your
Speaker 1: diaper report about the woman who's riding in the car
Speaker 1: by herself, the windows rolled up and she's got a
Speaker 1: mask on, right, But that's the way that people are
Speaker 1: at the airport. I need my tsa security mask back
Speaker 1: on me, you know, because I'm not safe from terrorists otherwise.
Speaker 1: And you know, there was you remember, right after they
Speaker 1: rolled out the naked body scanners and started doing pat
Speaker 1: downs and everything. There was an organized boycott for the
Speaker 1: following Thanksgiving and on the busiest travel day of the year,
Speaker 1: the TSA just shut it down everything and said gone
Speaker 1: through because everybody was going to opt out and force
Speaker 1: them to pat everybody down and was going to make
Speaker 1: a point about showing resistance. So rather than letting people
Speaker 1: show their resistance to it, they just shut the whole
Speaker 1: system down. And subsequent to that, we found a we
Speaker 1: found a lawsuit that was filed and they, by mistake,
Speaker 1: put up the full lawsuit and without reactions. Then realized
Speaker 1: the mistake and later took that down and put up
Speaker 1: in the one with redactions. But we got both of them.
Speaker 1: We compared them, and you could see that they were
Speaker 1: saying in twenty eleven, ten years after nine to eleven,
Speaker 1: that there was no threat to airports aeroplanes, And of
Speaker 1: course we know that because they failed ninety five percent
Speaker 1: of the time. So if there was a threat, there
Speaker 1: would have been some more incidents, but it's just not happening.
Speaker 1: And so that's where we are right now. But let's
Speaker 1: talk a little bit about EV's because you got an
Speaker 1: interesting story. Fifty one new cases is the title of
Speaker 1: your article at ep Audo's and you're talking about the
Speaker 1: Nissan leaf and tell us a little bit about that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, there's another incident, a series of cases of
Speaker 2: spontaneous combustion, this time involving new or nearly new Nissan leafs,
Speaker 2: supposedly because of a manufacturing defect, so there's been a
Speaker 2: recall because fifty one of them have caught fire. The
Speaker 2: thing is, though, it's much more than merely the manufacturing defect,
Speaker 2: because evs are inherently fire prone by the nature of
Speaker 2: high voltage lithium ion batteries. As we all know, EV
Speaker 2: fire is involving i think, pretty much every make and
Speaker 2: model of EV that's currently available, because that's what you
Speaker 2: get with lithium ion batteries, and that's what you get
Speaker 2: with you know, involving yourself with extremely high voltage four
Speaker 2: hundred eight hundred volt architecture and the charging process. And
Speaker 2: one of the things about this that I think is
Speaker 2: very interesting and just hasn't been discussed often enough is
Speaker 2: the fact that you know, over time, even if everything's
Speaker 2: ideal and you've got this very well constructed electric vehicle
Speaker 2: battery case, over time in a motor vehicle, you know
Speaker 2: it's going to get jostled, it's going to get vibrated,
Speaker 2: You're going to hit potholes, you're going to have extremes
Speaker 2: of heat in the summertime, You're going to have extremes
Speaker 2: of cold in the winter time. And that degrades materials
Speaker 2: over time. Any engineer will tell you that, you know,
Speaker 2: and it overtime results in that system becoming less stable
Speaker 2: and more prone to developing a problem. And if you've
Speaker 2: ever looked inside an electric vehicle battery pack, it's a lattice.
Speaker 2: It's this gigantic lattice, very complex structure of all these
Speaker 2: little DIDs and pieces, and when they begin to deteriorate
Speaker 2: and frey, then you get a short circuit out of
Speaker 2: one of the individual cells or thousands of cells, and
Speaker 2: that that EV battery pack, all it takes is one
Speaker 2: of those things to develop a little hairline crack or
Speaker 2: fissure and it boom. You know, you get this this
Speaker 2: cascading thermal runaway event and a horrendous fire that happens
Speaker 2: almost immediately, not just a little pizzle fire, extremely high
Speaker 2: high burning, high high temperature fire. And this is this
Speaker 2: is something that is inherently dangerous. You know. You look
Speaker 2: back at the Pinto you and I can remember the
Speaker 2: Pinto UH and there was a big hullabaloo about the pinto,
Speaker 2: but sometimes catching fire if it got rear ended. You
Speaker 2: had to hit the thing from behind really hard to
Speaker 2: sever the fuel filler neck, which not only caused the
Speaker 2: gas to spill, but it created a spark because the
Speaker 2: metal went like that, you know, and there was a
Speaker 2: spark in Boom. Evis just catch fire just sitting there.
Speaker 2: There wasn't a single case of a single pinto just
Speaker 2: catching fire just sitting there. YEA even is inherently more
Speaker 2: safe than any EV because you know, you need you
Speaker 2: need the gas in the first place to spill, to leak,
Speaker 2: to have the vapors, and then you have to have
Speaker 2: the second compounding factor, the spark that will ignite, whereas
Speaker 2: with evs they just spontaneously combust and there's nothing that
Speaker 2: you can do to prevent that from happening.
Speaker 1: And you pointed out in your article that there were
Speaker 1: only thirty eight cases of the pento, yet there's fifty
Speaker 1: one cases of this one particular model that they got
Speaker 1: as part of the recall, And so you start with that,
Speaker 1: and then you point out the fact that, well, you know,
Speaker 1: why is it being recalled. Well, they think that they're
Speaker 1: in the manufacturing process. Some of these batteries got bumped
Speaker 1: slightly and that is caused something that could short circuit
Speaker 1: and cause it to spontaneous combust like that. But I
Speaker 1: remember first time ever heard of an electric vehicle burning
Speaker 1: down a house. That's when I was living in North
Speaker 1: Carolina and it was a home in Charlotte and the
Speaker 1: people just charging it at their house. They had it
Speaker 1: in the garage and it spontaneously combusted and burnt the
Speaker 1: entire house down. But since then, you know, we've seen pictures.
Speaker 1: I remember seeing pictures of Navy and a parking garage
Speaker 1: just explode, you know, because they had the monitoring cameras there.
Speaker 1: We've seen it happened with buses on the street, and
Speaker 1: you've had situations where after it happened. The one video
Speaker 1: that I played it was in France, it spontaneously combusted,
Speaker 1: the bus did burned very very rapidly. And subsequent to that,
Speaker 1: you had a couple of situations like that with at
Speaker 1: bus stations in Germany, two different locations. One was in Stuttgart,
Speaker 1: the other was in Munich, I think, and one of
Speaker 1: them caught fire and it was so intense that it
Speaker 1: burned all of them down. And so after that, some
Speaker 1: you know, city some municipalities in Canada said, well, we're
Speaker 1: going to switch out are electric buses and go back
Speaker 1: to diesel. But it is inherent in the technology, and
Speaker 1: if you think about it, it's a lot more fragile
Speaker 1: than a pinto. And that's the other issue. You know,
Speaker 1: if there's just a during the manufact acturing or the
Speaker 1: shipping of the component part, if a bump can cause
Speaker 1: a defect in the battery, what does a car accident
Speaker 1: cause And we've heard cases after cases of a car
Speaker 1: accident and if you're unfortunately in a tesla, those things
Speaker 1: are under software control in terms of opening the doors,
Speaker 1: so you get locked into the thing as it's spontaneously combusting.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And how about the two container ships that went down.
Speaker 2: They were transporting evs. They were just transporting them. These
Speaker 2: were not plugged into anything, they were just sitting and
Speaker 2: they caught fire and took the whole ship out. Well,
Speaker 2: this is a disaster, and you know it's a disaster
Speaker 2: that has a ripple effect on people who have nothing
Speaker 2: to do and want nothing to do with evs. You
Speaker 2: and I and everybody else are getting to pay more
Speaker 2: for car insurance and for home insurance. Because of the
Speaker 2: actual and potential costs incurred by these evs and the fires.
Speaker 2: One of the cases that this particularly glaring was the
Speaker 2: case of this couple that lived in Maryland, I believe
Speaker 2: it was, and they took their vehicle into the Mercedes
Speaker 2: Benz dealership for service their vehicle, which was not an
Speaker 2: EV I think anyway. The dealer gave them a Mercedes
Speaker 2: ev loanar car and they drove the thing home and
Speaker 2: they parked it in their driveway outside of their garage,
Speaker 2: wasn't plugged in, and they just left it sitting there. Well,
Speaker 2: the thing caught fire. Not only did it burn to
Speaker 2: the ground, it burned their house to the ground. And
Speaker 2: these were affluent people. They had a home that was
Speaker 2: worth about a million dollars. Do you think paid for that?
Speaker 1: We do, that's right? Yeah, yeah. Does that come under
Speaker 1: the car insurance to the homeowners insurance? I wonder which
Speaker 1: one of that is. But yeah, it is crazy, but
Speaker 1: you know it is. It's something that people are still
Speaker 1: fanatical about. You point out a Gelopnik article where they
Speaker 1: were talking about bemoaning the fact that Rolls Royce is
Speaker 1: going to still sell their V twelve engine. They couldn't
Speaker 1: believe that they weren't going to go completely ev talk
Speaker 1: a little bit about that and got.
Speaker 2: Under my skin because, after all, I am a car journalist,
Speaker 2: which means excused to me that you're somebody who not
Speaker 2: only likes cars, but understands them. And my professional is
Speaker 2: suffused with people who have no understanding, no comprehension whatsoever
Speaker 2: of cars.
Speaker 3: And a lot of them work and they work.
Speaker 2: Yeah, not just that. Unfortunately, road track and car and
Speaker 2: driver too. They don't like they're so blinkered. They don't
Speaker 2: see that a person who's in a position to buy
Speaker 2: something like a Rolls or a Bentley, you know, they
Speaker 2: want something that isn't just another device. You're spending a
Speaker 2: quarter million dollars on a vehicle. You want something that's exclusive. Well,
Speaker 2: I hate to break it to you, but a battery
Speaker 2: pack isn't exclusive. You know, a Hyundai has a battery pack.
Speaker 2: Not that there's anything wrong with a Hyundai. I'm just
Speaker 2: pointing out that it's a battery pack. There's nothing special
Speaker 2: about it. You know, nobody oohs an oz oh, my
Speaker 2: battery pack has has eighty kill a lot hours, you know,
Speaker 2: versus that one over there that one only has sixty
Speaker 2: three kill a lot hours. It's ridiculous. Whereas V twelve,
Speaker 2: Now that's got some gravitas. That's got some happy you know.
Speaker 2: I mean, if you're you know, in traffic and you
Speaker 2: glance over at the car next to you and it
Speaker 2: has the chrome letters and it says V twelve. People, Wow,
Speaker 2: that's impressive. And even more impressive when you look at
Speaker 2: it and you hear it. What do you hear with
Speaker 2: with with the battery pack? You hear nothing. You know,
Speaker 2: you push the start button. It's like putting a turning
Speaker 2: on the light switch in your room. Okay, whatever, I mean,
Speaker 2: it turns on. There's no passion, there's no feeling, there's
Speaker 2: nothing there.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: It's it's a it's a it's a toaster. Nobody's going
Speaker 2: to pay a quarter million dollars for a toaster.
Speaker 1: It's kind of like rolls or a Swiss watch versus
Speaker 1: a digital watch, right, that's I mean, for example, not
Speaker 1: just switch over to cheap digital watches.
Speaker 3: You know they can still downe that hide build.
Speaker 2: The ten dollars watch that you buy at the Dollar
Speaker 2: store is more accurate than the role X because you know,
Speaker 2: the Rolex has mechanical movement in it rather than just
Speaker 2: a purely digital time piece. But my god, you look
Speaker 2: at that magnificent jeweled time piece, and that's what you're
Speaker 2: paying for, you know, you know, the intricacy, the ornateness
Speaker 2: of it, the craftsmanship of it. So you know, these
Speaker 2: people don't get that. They don't understand and why are
Speaker 2: they're working in cars? Urtalism is absolutely beyond me. When
Speaker 2: I was coming up, there was still the old guard
Speaker 2: present when I first started working in this business. And
Speaker 2: the old guard they were car guys. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 2: and you could not get your foot in the door
Speaker 2: unless you were simpatico. You were like them. You were
Speaker 2: interested in cars, you knew something about them, you know,
Speaker 2: you worked on them, maybe you raced them in the
Speaker 2: weekend stuff like that.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: They didn't want people who didn't like cars being in
Speaker 2: their business. Now it's the opposite.
Speaker 1: That was it David Davis or something. The guy at
Speaker 1: is like Cogito Ergo Zoom, But he was one who
Speaker 1: organized Cannonball Run kind of in a protest to the
Speaker 1: fifty five minter hour speed limit.
Speaker 2: Right yeah, yeah, I mean you can imagine. Brocky Eates
Speaker 2: was another one of the instigators behind that great guy.
Speaker 2: But today, you know, somebody like that would be viewed
Speaker 2: as some sort of horrible, patriarchal, heterosexual, rolling coal maniac
Speaker 2: who can't be discussed in play society.
Speaker 1: That's absolutely true. Well, you know, when we look at
Speaker 1: where this is all headed, it really is going down
Speaker 1: the drain, and everything seems to be circling the drain.
Speaker 1: Talk about the difference between us and them. That's the
Speaker 1: headline of one of your Yeah No.
Speaker 2: I was inspired to write that the other day because
Speaker 2: I got to thinking about COVID again and times in
Speaker 2: which we're living. And one of the things that has
Speaker 2: always kind of angered and frustrated me about COVID is
Speaker 2: that all the people who are the most hysterical enforcers
Speaker 2: of things like mass guidelines and who believe everybody should
Speaker 2: be forced to get the vaccine, generally speaking, they don't apologize,
Speaker 2: They don't conceivee they were wrong about that, And I
Speaker 2: think that's appalling. I think that as a human being,
Speaker 2: when you make a mistake, the only way you can
Speaker 2: recover your self respect and your humanity is to admit,
Speaker 2: especially to those that you hurt. I made a mistake.
Speaker 2: I shouldn't have done.
Speaker 1: That unless you're like Donald Trump, and then you don't
Speaker 1: make mistakes.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: Well, so I'm admitting that I made a mistake in
Speaker 2: letting my hope cloud my judgment and having voted for Trump.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry for I shouldn't have done it, not saying
Speaker 2: that I would have voted for Kamala Harris. I'm not
Speaker 2: voting anymore for any of them. Yeah, But the thing is,
Speaker 2: you know, I made a mistake. I thought maybe he's
Speaker 2: not the same guy that he was last time, but
Speaker 2: he was worse than I even imagined. And I'm sorry
Speaker 2: for it, you know, And I think that again, it's
Speaker 2: not about it transcends politics, ideology, religion. If you make
Speaker 2: a mistake, if you do something wrong, you got fooled.
Speaker 2: You know, that's not a moral feeling if you got fooled.
Speaker 2: We all make mistakes, you know, we sometimes you know,
Speaker 2: just get rolled. Admit it, though, particularly when harmless caused
Speaker 2: as a result of it, and you were involved in it,
Speaker 2: even if not overtly, because you just thought you were
Speaker 2: doing the right thing. And I wish the people on
Speaker 2: our side, particularly people on our side, would not be
Speaker 2: like the Covidians and you know, would just say, you know, yeah,
Speaker 2: this is bad news. We have to stop this somehow.
Speaker 2: I'm not going to be part of this business any longer.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, Well, you know, it's always been with Trump.
Speaker 1: The debate's always been whether he's a fool or a
Speaker 1: tool of somebody or something else. And as we were
Speaker 1: talking before the interview, we're talking off air before the
Speaker 1: interview started, I said, yeah, question is is the psychopath
Speaker 1: or is the dementia? You know, we're talking about what
Speaker 1: he did over the weekend, And and you came up
Speaker 1: with a third possibility, Telly, it's.
Speaker 2: A tertiary syphilis, which is quite possible.
Speaker 1: That's right. Absolutely. That would be an interesting revenge, wasn't
Speaker 1: it from the victim.
Speaker 2: Wouldn't be the least surprised, you know, And again this
Speaker 2: is a general thing too. Another ironical juxtaposition is that
Speaker 2: the people who support Trump now were very critical of
Speaker 2: Joe Biden a few years ago because he was obviously
Speaker 2: an elderly man who was at the point where his
Speaker 2: faculties were obviously deteriorating physically as well as mentally. And
Speaker 2: they made a big brewja about a guy that old
Speaker 2: shouldn't be in that position. Well, here we are with
Speaker 2: a guy who's older. That's right, and he's going to
Speaker 2: be you know, it's going to get progressively worse. You know,
Speaker 2: we still got almost three years ago. He'll be pushing
Speaker 2: eighty three years old by the end of this. And
Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not, you know, like trying to make
Speaker 2: a big deal about people's age. I'm pointing out that
Speaker 2: there are jobs where, you know, maybe age is a factor.
Speaker 2: I think commercial airline pilots have to retire at sixty,
Speaker 2: I think, and there's a good reason for that. Even
Speaker 2: if you're in excellent shape today, as a sixty year old,
Speaker 2: it's statistically not improbable that you might have a stroke
Speaker 2: or a heart attack tomorrow. And you don't want that
Speaker 2: guy in the left seat of your plane, you know,
Speaker 2: if you can avoid it, want a younger person in
Speaker 2: that role. And I think that, you know, one of
Speaker 2: the lessons that we're all going to learn from this
Speaker 2: is that maybe there should be an upper age limit
Speaker 2: on people who are permitted to run for president.
Speaker 1: Well, I think it's even more individualized than that. You know,
Speaker 1: when you look at the situation of this demonstrated condition
Speaker 1: that he showed everybody Frankly, I don't care. You know,
Speaker 1: it's like having somebody who is a mass murderer. Maybe
Speaker 1: he says that the dogs were telling him to kill
Speaker 1: all these people like Summa Sam or maybe he's just
Speaker 1: been a lifelong psychopath, or maybe something else happened to him.
Speaker 1: I don't really care about his motivations as much as
Speaker 1: we would need to do something about it. Right, you've
Speaker 1: got to get this guy off the street one way
Speaker 1: or the other. Life's in prison or the electric chair,
Speaker 1: whichever he thought it. Well, that's the case with Who's Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's the case with Trump. I mean, you know, the
Speaker 1: issue is we talked about is it just because he's
Speaker 1: a vicious mad dog or is it because he's becoming senile?
Speaker 1: I don't really care. The bottom line is we've seen
Speaker 1: what he's doing, and we know what he's doing to
Speaker 1: the entire world, and so the question is how do
Speaker 1: we get this guy out of there. It's not what's
Speaker 1: wrong with him. We know what's wrong with him. What
Speaker 1: caused what's wrong with him is the only thing to
Speaker 1: be talked about. And I don't really care what the
Speaker 1: what the motivating factors were underneath that made him into
Speaker 1: what he is what everybody can see he actually is
Speaker 1: right now.
Speaker 2: So we'll see whether there's self interest on the part
Speaker 2: of people within the Republican Party is operative? You know,
Speaker 2: I was. I was heartened by what Joe Kent did because,
Speaker 2: you know, he was a guy that's pretty unimpeachable in
Speaker 2: terms of his background, particularly on the topic at hand, right,
Speaker 2: and very very difficult for Trump Captain bone Spurs to
Speaker 2: criticize this guy, you know, with multiple combat tours, how
Speaker 2: many Bronze stars does he has all that, and who
Speaker 2: was immediately under Tulsea Gabbert and so was in a
Speaker 2: position to know where the Iranians were a threat to
Speaker 2: the United States, and clearly they weren't according to him.
Speaker 2: So who are you going to believe? I hope that
Speaker 2: his example has followed and emulated. Yeah, and more people
Speaker 2: of good conscience come forward and say I just can't
Speaker 2: be party to this any longer, and perhaps a crescendo
Speaker 2: will build, and perhaps a point will come, kind of
Speaker 2: like it did with Nixon in seventy four, where he's
Speaker 2: got to go yeah, you know, and he'll take that,
Speaker 2: He'll take that walk of shame to the helicopter and
Speaker 2: go back to mar.
Speaker 1: A Lago, I just, you know, there's something about Trump
Speaker 1: and the leverage that he's got over everybody, which is
Speaker 1: really crazy. And I got to say, you know, if
Speaker 1: the Republican Party needs to be taught a lesson, and
Speaker 1: unfortunately there's not any good way to do that. You know,
Speaker 1: if you vote against them, you're voting for a Democrat
Speaker 1: for the most part, and they've got their own issues
Speaker 1: that are different. But the you know, if I was
Speaker 1: still voting, I've given up on that. If I was
Speaker 1: still voting, i'd be hard pressed and know what to do.
Speaker 1: I look at it and I think, you know, if
Speaker 1: I was still going to vote, I would probably vote
Speaker 1: for a Democrat this time, because just to teach the
Speaker 1: Republicans a lesson. But I know what I'd get on
Speaker 1: the back end of that, And I just, you know,
Speaker 1: for the longest time running as a third party candidate,
Speaker 1: would tell people, you know that the lesser two evils
Speaker 1: is still evil. I just don't want to vote for
Speaker 1: an evil. You know, they're evil in different ways. But
Speaker 1: somehow Trump has got to get taken out and the
Speaker 1: Republican Party needs to be have a spine crafted into it.
Speaker 1: For some reason, They need to see that there's a
Speaker 1: price to be paid for this, and I think that
Speaker 1: the Republican Party is going to pay a price for this.
Speaker 1: I think Trump is worse for the Republican Party than
Speaker 1: Jimmy Carter was for the Democrat Party. That's my take
Speaker 1: on it. What do you think?
Speaker 2: Oh, I'll second an amen, and third that you know,
Speaker 2: Jimmy Carter, for all of his flaws, I don't think
Speaker 2: people perceived him as a as a loathsome person, that's right,
Speaker 2: as a vile individual. They regarded him as I remember,
Speaker 2: it's just kind of a nept that he meant to
Speaker 2: do well. But you know, he wasn't particularly confident. Whereas Trump,
Speaker 2: he's he is personally despised with reason by a large
Speaker 2: number of people who regard him as a despicable human being,
Speaker 2: you know, a person without compassion, without empathy, without decency,
Speaker 2: you know, And I do think that that's going to
Speaker 2: come back to bite him in his more than ample career.
Speaker 3: It is more than ample, isn't it. It's good.
Speaker 1: Well, on that note, we're running out of time, and
Speaker 1: we've gone a little bit over time. But thank you
Speaker 1: so much, Eric Peters for joining us, and again you
Speaker 1: can find him at Eric petersautos dot com. There's a
Speaker 1: lot that is there that is food for thought, and
Speaker 1: it's always an interesting read. And we didn't have time
Speaker 1: to get to your your build out for your trans
Speaker 1: am and your loved the way that you're for it's alive,
Speaker 1: and he said, bringing back something that has been dead
Speaker 1: like this for a while. It really does feel kind
Speaker 1: of like Doctor Frankenstein bringing back a live and I
Speaker 1: bet it or yeah, I bet rory when it came
Speaker 1: back to life, and must have been a lot of
Speaker 1: a lot of fun. Well, thank you so much for
Speaker 1: joining us again, Eric Peters autos dot com. Thank you, Eric,
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