WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.200 --> 00:00:02.520 Hi, Welcome. This is doctor John de Martini. This is 2 00:00:02.560 --> 00:00:05.240 one of the most amazing and inspiring shows that you 3 00:00:05.240 --> 00:00:06.960 can listen into. If you want to be on the 4 00:00:07.040 --> 00:00:08.599 edge of your seeds, if you want to open up 5 00:00:08.640 --> 00:00:10.720 your heart, if you want to expand your mind, and 6 00:00:10.759 --> 00:00:13.599 you want to meet incredible people, stay tuned because you're 7 00:00:13.640 --> 00:00:16.480 just about to experience a transformative radio show that will 8 00:00:16.519 --> 00:00:18.559 change your life. And you're listening to The Doctor Pat 9 00:00:18.559 --> 00:00:19.800 Show is coming up right next. 10 00:00:21.719 --> 00:00:25.000 Welcome to the Doctor Pat Show Talk Radio to thrive 11 00:00:25.039 --> 00:00:29.239 by powerful, inspiring and coming to you live, bringing you 12 00:00:29.320 --> 00:00:33.479 stories of people like you and me busting through and 13 00:00:33.640 --> 00:00:38.320 living life full out. Get ready to dare to wonder 14 00:00:38.679 --> 00:00:41.640 what your life would be like if you knew you 15 00:00:41.759 --> 00:00:42.640 could not fail. 16 00:00:51.320 --> 00:00:54.079 Okay, everyone, you know I do these interviews, and y'all 17 00:00:54.119 --> 00:00:55.640 know me. I've been doing it for a long time. 18 00:00:55.679 --> 00:00:58.960 We're coming up on our ten thousand interview. But every 19 00:00:59.000 --> 00:01:02.520 once in a while, I come across somebody Doctor Shuey 20 00:01:02.520 --> 00:01:05.519 today is one of them. But I come across somebody 21 00:01:05.599 --> 00:01:09.319 who is onto something. And what I mean by that. 22 00:01:09.439 --> 00:01:11.519 It could be a book, it could be art, it 23 00:01:11.519 --> 00:01:16.120 could be music. Today it's a movement and That's what 24 00:01:16.239 --> 00:01:18.519 I want to talk about. For those of you out there, 25 00:01:18.640 --> 00:01:22.319 if you don't know who, doctor Kevin Shoey is, Board 26 00:01:22.439 --> 00:01:26.959 certified cancer specialists. He's been in private practice, still practicing, 27 00:01:27.200 --> 00:01:31.840 still saving lives, still helping people for over thirty five years. 28 00:01:32.159 --> 00:01:38.359 But now and then he got the creative bug, and 29 00:01:38.400 --> 00:01:43.480 that creative bug turned into a creative bug, turned into 30 00:01:44.079 --> 00:01:49.319 what we like to look at as the Bad Love Gang. Today, 31 00:01:49.959 --> 00:01:53.120 we're going to walk you through what the latest is 32 00:01:53.200 --> 00:01:56.239 coming out of this creative genius. 33 00:01:56.280 --> 00:01:59.920 But even more importantly, what the heck. 34 00:01:59.760 --> 00:02:05.799 Or people saying bad Loves strikes, and that is It's 35 00:02:05.879 --> 00:02:11.000 won six prestigious awards, it has won more accolades. It 36 00:02:11.120 --> 00:02:16.159 is the most incredible movement when you talk about screenplays 37 00:02:16.159 --> 00:02:20.960 and scripts and so all of us are like, let's 38 00:02:21.080 --> 00:02:24.199 get it out there. But more importantly, are you ready 39 00:02:24.199 --> 00:02:27.439 to take a journey? Are you ready to look at 40 00:02:27.439 --> 00:02:30.639 what it's like to move ahead in time? Are you 41 00:02:30.680 --> 00:02:34.000 ready to do that but then also go back in time? 42 00:02:34.800 --> 00:02:37.000 Doctor shewe It's so great to have you here today. 43 00:02:37.039 --> 00:02:38.360 Boy have you been busy? 44 00:02:39.159 --> 00:02:41.960 Yeah, doctor pat, it's so good to be back with you. 45 00:02:42.199 --> 00:02:44.560 I think it's probably been more than a year or 46 00:02:44.599 --> 00:02:47.759 so since we visited the last time, and you know, 47 00:02:47.919 --> 00:02:50.680 to my recollection, I think this is the first time 48 00:02:50.800 --> 00:02:54.000 we've actually visited face to face. I think we've really 49 00:02:54.159 --> 00:02:57.560 like done audio interviews. So it's so good to just 50 00:02:57.639 --> 00:03:00.560 be sitting here kind of in the office your living 51 00:03:00.639 --> 00:03:01.800 room with you right now. 52 00:03:02.439 --> 00:03:03.000 I love it. 53 00:03:03.400 --> 00:03:07.319 You know, I grew up and my childhood wasn't the 54 00:03:07.360 --> 00:03:12.680 greatest and so my escape were escape things. So had 55 00:03:12.680 --> 00:03:15.840 this been a book when I was growing up, I 56 00:03:15.879 --> 00:03:18.039 would have been the first one to get it. Had 57 00:03:18.159 --> 00:03:23.240 there been an introduction to what we're calling right now 58 00:03:23.479 --> 00:03:25.639 is you know, many people may not know this the 59 00:03:25.680 --> 00:03:29.560 Bad Love Gang and the series of books and screenplays 60 00:03:29.560 --> 00:03:32.000 and other things you've done, I would be one of 61 00:03:32.000 --> 00:03:36.199 the first people standing out there in lighte because this 62 00:03:36.520 --> 00:03:41.039 was my way of taking a trip to the world 63 00:03:41.120 --> 00:03:45.439 of possibilities. Now carry that forward. Hence that's the network 64 00:03:45.479 --> 00:03:50.960 I created. But for you, this is such a beautiful 65 00:03:51.080 --> 00:03:59.080 journey of courage and understanding and so much more. And 66 00:03:59.120 --> 00:04:02.280 I want to ask you since the last time we've talked, 67 00:04:04.599 --> 00:04:08.159 what has changed for you? And how has this version 68 00:04:09.080 --> 00:04:13.039 what we're talking about today, right we're talking for those 69 00:04:13.080 --> 00:04:14.080 Bad Love Strikes. 70 00:04:14.199 --> 00:04:16.079 How has this changed you? 71 00:04:18.639 --> 00:04:21.959 Well, I think it's really giving me a lot of 72 00:04:22.000 --> 00:04:27.199 optimism for the future, because you know, I've I've spent 73 00:04:27.800 --> 00:04:32.480 I'm starting my fortieth year as a cancer doctor July first, 74 00:04:33.160 --> 00:04:34.680 even though I look so young. 75 00:04:36.279 --> 00:04:38.360 Yeah, yeah, you and me both right, don't we look good? 76 00:04:41.079 --> 00:04:46.480 And so you know, I started writing the book series 77 00:04:46.519 --> 00:04:49.959 in twenty nineteen and then so I wrote the first 78 00:04:50.000 --> 00:04:54.000 four books, working on book five now, starting with Badlove Strikes, 79 00:04:54.040 --> 00:04:56.399 which is really We've come. You know, you and I 80 00:04:56.480 --> 00:04:58.360 talked about how we come full circle? 81 00:04:58.879 --> 00:04:59.399 Doctor show. 82 00:04:59.439 --> 00:05:03.120 We look you talked about full circle. Let's talk about 83 00:05:03.160 --> 00:05:06.759 it because you were talking about the screenplays and I 84 00:05:06.800 --> 00:05:10.319 didn't even begin to touch on the accolades around this. 85 00:05:11.000 --> 00:05:13.680 I mean, you've got to be like giddy inside. But 86 00:05:13.800 --> 00:05:15.839 what is that like for you? I mean I ask 87 00:05:15.920 --> 00:05:18.839 you the question, what has changed? And how is this 88 00:05:19.079 --> 00:05:21.800 experience changed for you? 89 00:05:23.639 --> 00:05:26.439 Yeah? So, I mean who would think that, you know, 90 00:05:26.600 --> 00:05:30.759 this cancer doctor of forty years would write these four books, 91 00:05:30.800 --> 00:05:34.279 working on book five and then decide to write screenplays 92 00:05:34.319 --> 00:05:37.279 for the first two and then all of a sudden, 93 00:05:37.319 --> 00:05:40.040 I mean, the books they won, they won good awards, 94 00:05:40.360 --> 00:05:44.240 but the screenplays have just been on fire internationally. They've 95 00:05:44.319 --> 00:05:48.639 won everywhere across the globe, and so what does that 96 00:05:48.720 --> 00:05:52.079 feel like? I guess I would say it feels very surreal. 97 00:05:53.079 --> 00:05:57.240 And it also gives me motivation to actually want to 98 00:05:57.279 --> 00:05:59.879 get these on the big screen and you know, either 99 00:06:00.519 --> 00:06:04.639 Netflix or our Amazon or you know a TV they've won. 100 00:06:05.079 --> 00:06:09.240 They've won Pilot series awards, TV series awards, all kinds 101 00:06:09.240 --> 00:06:12.639 of movie and script awards for concept and best sci fi. 102 00:06:13.519 --> 00:06:18.839 And so yeah, it's changed me because you know, I'm 103 00:06:18.920 --> 00:06:23.839 motivated now to actually get this out there and exciting. 104 00:06:24.040 --> 00:06:29.199 So you know, I just recently sent this letter to 105 00:06:30.079 --> 00:06:34.279 Ron Howard with the screenplay and book at Imagine Entertainment, 106 00:06:34.519 --> 00:06:38.480 And you know, I just my my favorite movie of 107 00:06:38.519 --> 00:06:42.839 all time is Apollo thirteen, and I just think Ron 108 00:06:43.040 --> 00:06:47.319 and his company, Imagine Entertainment, they'd be a perfect fit. 109 00:06:47.439 --> 00:06:49.720 There are a lot of other perfect fits out there, 110 00:06:49.759 --> 00:06:53.360 but this just was a couple of weeks ago, so 111 00:06:53.680 --> 00:06:55.720 waiting hoping to hear back. 112 00:06:56.160 --> 00:06:56.360 Yeah. 113 00:06:56.480 --> 00:06:59.279 The other one is Fielberg, because you know, I'm watching 114 00:06:59.319 --> 00:07:02.079 the directions over it is going now in some of 115 00:07:02.120 --> 00:07:03.600 his latest bodies of work. 116 00:07:04.560 --> 00:07:10.279 H Yeah, disclosure disclosure days coming out my mind this 117 00:07:10.360 --> 00:07:14.240 weekend or next week. I mean, can you believe it? Yeah, 118 00:07:14.399 --> 00:07:18.000 I mean this is about this is about time travel 119 00:07:18.240 --> 00:07:24.360 and interstellar travel and and of course you know, as 120 00:07:24.399 --> 00:07:27.319 the book series goes on a little while ago, you 121 00:07:27.360 --> 00:07:31.639 and I talked about Blue Nova one. Yeah, and so 122 00:07:32.199 --> 00:07:35.639 they're aliens and but you have to get into the 123 00:07:35.720 --> 00:07:38.720 series to get to that point. But so, yeah, this 124 00:07:38.759 --> 00:07:42.360 would be perfect for him. I think about this disclosure 125 00:07:42.439 --> 00:07:46.000 day coming out, and I mean, how can we live 126 00:07:46.120 --> 00:07:50.639 in this created universe? Although I just I think that 127 00:07:50.759 --> 00:07:52.680 there's more to it. 128 00:07:53.199 --> 00:07:58.040 I totally agree with you, and you know, I almost think, okay, 129 00:07:58.120 --> 00:08:00.959 so this is why you do what you do because 130 00:08:01.319 --> 00:08:03.959 I have this thought. I have this theory when I 131 00:08:04.000 --> 00:08:07.439 was a very young kid because I never understood religion, 132 00:08:07.519 --> 00:08:10.439 but I did understand, you know, the basis of God 133 00:08:10.519 --> 00:08:13.160 and higher power, even as at a young age. But 134 00:08:13.279 --> 00:08:16.920 one of the things that I realized was, you know, 135 00:08:17.519 --> 00:08:20.360 if we are in such a vast field of energy 136 00:08:20.399 --> 00:08:23.480 and universe. And you know, doctor gen Houston just passed away, 137 00:08:23.519 --> 00:08:25.959 and she was so brilliant at this, especially with her 138 00:08:26.000 --> 00:08:31.360 book Jump Time. But what you've captured is not just 139 00:08:31.480 --> 00:08:35.799 a book that shows us history. And we'll talk about 140 00:08:35.879 --> 00:08:39.000 Roosevelt in a minute. But what you do is you 141 00:08:39.080 --> 00:08:42.600 bring themes that are so relevant to the world we 142 00:08:42.759 --> 00:08:46.159 live in today. Isn't that part of the impact and 143 00:08:46.200 --> 00:08:47.639 the excitement. 144 00:08:48.759 --> 00:08:53.720 Absolutely. I you know, as you get into Bad Love Strikes, 145 00:08:54.480 --> 00:09:00.039 it's almost as if Roosevelt and Einstein are there with you, 146 00:09:00.320 --> 00:09:04.720 because the theme is that Roosevelt, and this is so true, 147 00:09:04.960 --> 00:09:08.559 doctor pat he was afraid that Hitler and the Nazis 148 00:09:08.600 --> 00:09:12.279 would get the atomic bomb first. And Einstein was even 149 00:09:12.360 --> 00:09:17.039 socially friendly with Roosevelt, and he warned it, We've got 150 00:09:17.039 --> 00:09:19.759 to be the first to get the bomb, because otherwise 151 00:09:19.799 --> 00:09:23.000 it would be untenable if they got it first. And 152 00:09:23.080 --> 00:09:28.039 so Roosevelt launches the Manhattan Project in June of forty two. 153 00:09:28.799 --> 00:09:31.679 And here's Bad Love Strikes in October of forty two, 154 00:09:31.840 --> 00:09:35.559 with Roosevelt and Einstein meeting at the White House saying, 155 00:09:35.600 --> 00:09:39.960 you know, Roosevelt is saying, you know, Albert, we need 156 00:09:40.039 --> 00:09:43.759 a backup plant to the Manhattan Project. And so I'm 157 00:09:43.799 --> 00:09:47.919 commissioning you to build a usable time travel machine called 158 00:09:47.960 --> 00:09:50.639 the White Hole Project, and we're going to build it 159 00:09:50.720 --> 00:09:54.559 right next to the K twenty five plant in Oakridge, 160 00:09:54.600 --> 00:09:58.159 Tennessee where we're processing platonium and no one will know 161 00:09:58.360 --> 00:10:02.279 it's being done. We'll just seal it off if we're 162 00:10:02.360 --> 00:10:04.759 the first to get the bomb. But if if we 163 00:10:04.840 --> 00:10:07.279 lose the race, we're going to use that time for 164 00:10:07.360 --> 00:10:08.320 avel machine. 165 00:10:08.720 --> 00:10:08.960 Yeah. 166 00:10:09.000 --> 00:10:09.600 I love that. 167 00:10:09.799 --> 00:10:11.440 You know, the other person you may want to get 168 00:10:11.480 --> 00:10:13.799 a hold of his Brad Pitt. His company is Planned B. 169 00:10:14.399 --> 00:10:17.639 And you know, part of this, though, is I think 170 00:10:17.679 --> 00:10:18.600 we're a little naive. 171 00:10:18.720 --> 00:10:19.559 Let me ask you this. 172 00:10:20.519 --> 00:10:23.120 I've always thought about this, and I think part of 173 00:10:23.159 --> 00:10:27.279 my naive thinking was things were so linearly planned. Now 174 00:10:27.279 --> 00:10:30.399 I got over that at about age eleven, where the 175 00:10:30.480 --> 00:10:34.120 linear things didn't make sense because every comic but I 176 00:10:34.200 --> 00:10:37.240 read everything had to backup plan had to plan a 177 00:10:37.399 --> 00:10:40.879 Plan B. Alternates, let's just call them alternates. So why 178 00:10:40.919 --> 00:10:41.360 not this? 179 00:10:42.519 --> 00:10:46.720 Yeah, absolutely, it fits in with you that even you know, 180 00:10:46.919 --> 00:10:54.039 modern times, you cannot just it's a Yogi bearra funny saying. 181 00:10:54.080 --> 00:10:56.200 He says, when I come to a fork in the road, 182 00:10:56.240 --> 00:11:01.360 I take it, And so you have to have that's true. 183 00:11:01.720 --> 00:11:05.080 You have to have an alternate plan. And this really 184 00:11:05.120 --> 00:11:09.120 makes sense. And you know, Einstein really proved with the 185 00:11:09.120 --> 00:11:13.519 theory of relativity that time travel is possible. And you know, 186 00:11:13.639 --> 00:11:19.360 with all that we're learning with quantum mechanics and artificial intelligence, 187 00:11:20.080 --> 00:11:23.720 it's just not a stretch to believe that time travel 188 00:11:23.840 --> 00:11:24.600 is possible. 189 00:11:25.159 --> 00:11:33.000 Yeah, you know, I have to say, James Cameron invented AI. 190 00:11:33.440 --> 00:11:36.759 Do you know how I know that the Terminator movies? Now, 191 00:11:36.840 --> 00:11:40.039 why do I say, well, come on, because think about 192 00:11:40.080 --> 00:11:43.080 the imagination of this guy. I think it was James Cameron. 193 00:11:43.240 --> 00:11:45.720 I can't tell if it was you know Ridley's guy 194 00:11:45.960 --> 00:11:50.639 whoever it was, right, had a sense of time, had 195 00:11:50.720 --> 00:11:53.519 a sense of AI how a sense of time travel, 196 00:11:54.000 --> 00:11:58.120 and we bought it hook line and sinker. 197 00:11:58.159 --> 00:12:01.120 What year was that sixty nine? I don't even know. 198 00:12:01.399 --> 00:12:03.200 I don't even know what year that came out, but 199 00:12:03.279 --> 00:12:04.720 we bought it as if. 200 00:12:04.600 --> 00:12:06.279 It was okay. 201 00:12:06.799 --> 00:12:10.840 And so now here we are, how much has the 202 00:12:10.879 --> 00:12:15.519 population changed to be able to say, of course time 203 00:12:15.559 --> 00:12:18.240 travel of courts plan b. 204 00:12:19.000 --> 00:12:23.519 Yeah, and you know something else, because you're talking about 205 00:12:23.799 --> 00:12:26.600 you know, James Cameron and The Terminator and all that, 206 00:12:27.279 --> 00:12:31.559 You know, a lot those movies were that they they 207 00:12:31.720 --> 00:12:36.120 had real people, and so right now in Hollywood you 208 00:12:36.200 --> 00:12:39.879 have all these like you know, Greek tragedy type things 209 00:12:39.919 --> 00:12:44.240 going on in all these fictional you know characters. Bad 210 00:12:44.360 --> 00:12:48.559 Love Strikes is about a group of American teenagers that 211 00:12:48.639 --> 00:12:52.000 are growing up in nineteen seventy four and discover a 212 00:12:52.039 --> 00:12:55.000 World War two time travel machine. I mean it's like 213 00:12:55.159 --> 00:12:58.559 Goodies meets Raiders of the Lost Dark or whatever. I mean. 214 00:12:58.559 --> 00:13:01.519 These are real, flesh and blood people with a whole 215 00:13:01.559 --> 00:13:06.360 host of different personalities, and you know, they butt heads, 216 00:13:06.399 --> 00:13:09.879 but they come together, and I think we need to 217 00:13:09.879 --> 00:13:10.639 get back to that. 218 00:13:10.879 --> 00:13:11.080 Yeah. 219 00:13:11.120 --> 00:13:15.440 I mean, you know, you know, you any friend of 220 00:13:15.480 --> 00:13:18.399 yours or audience, they would be able to latch on 221 00:13:18.480 --> 00:13:21.120 to a character in the Bad Love series and say 222 00:13:21.360 --> 00:13:25.399 that's me. You know, I could see myself in that 223 00:13:25.440 --> 00:13:26.960 situation I did. 224 00:13:27.120 --> 00:13:29.559 That was my sense of it, because let's talk about it. 225 00:13:29.639 --> 00:13:34.080 These characters are based on real characters, right right. 226 00:13:34.440 --> 00:13:35.000 You're in it. 227 00:13:36.039 --> 00:13:39.360 Nine of them are based on Yeah, I'm Bubble. 228 00:13:39.039 --> 00:13:44.720 But oh my gosh, that's you know my nickname. I 229 00:13:44.759 --> 00:13:47.559 was a chubby kid. You were bubble, but I was 230 00:13:47.600 --> 00:13:51.679 called puff. You know, I'm like, Okay, seriously, couldn't you 231 00:13:51.720 --> 00:13:54.039 come up with a better name? But you know, part 232 00:13:54.080 --> 00:13:57.960 of this, I agree with what you've done so beautifully though, 233 00:13:58.480 --> 00:14:03.039 is you've touched on history and made it reality moments 234 00:14:03.080 --> 00:14:08.279 that are occurring today. Now is it explicit? Some of 235 00:14:08.320 --> 00:14:12.799 it is, but it's more than that. It's watching initiative, 236 00:14:12.919 --> 00:14:18.200 it's watching Courage, it's watching innovation. Right, all of this though, 237 00:14:18.759 --> 00:14:22.519 and may I add what did you say? Goonies something else? 238 00:14:22.759 --> 00:14:25.440 So now I want to add stranger Things because it's 239 00:14:25.440 --> 00:14:28.200 got elements of all of that to me. Am I 240 00:14:28.320 --> 00:14:29.440 on track with that or not? 241 00:14:30.360 --> 00:14:33.840 Yeah, you're right on. I have patients that read my books, 242 00:14:33.919 --> 00:14:36.159 doctor pat They come in and they have me sign 243 00:14:36.240 --> 00:14:39.240 their books, and I can't tell you how many times 244 00:14:39.279 --> 00:14:42.639 they've said, oh, this reminds me of Stranger Things, or 245 00:14:42.759 --> 00:14:45.519 I showed this to my son or daughter and they 246 00:14:45.559 --> 00:14:48.399 read it and they're like, oh, this is like Stranger Things. 247 00:14:48.440 --> 00:14:51.759 So sure, yeah, yeah, I mean, you know, we have 248 00:14:51.960 --> 00:15:02.240 toyed with the idea of creativity, innovative mind mindset being 249 00:15:02.320 --> 00:15:06.360 outside of reality. And what I'm finding, especially doing what 250 00:15:06.440 --> 00:15:09.639 I do now, you know, twenty three years, coming up 251 00:15:09.679 --> 00:15:12.840 on ten thousand interviews, what I'm finding is we have 252 00:15:12.960 --> 00:15:17.039 too many categories that are separating things and forgetting that 253 00:15:17.159 --> 00:15:20.639 what if this were all one that we get and 254 00:15:20.679 --> 00:15:24.879 what I mean by that is, look at you. You know, 255 00:15:25.279 --> 00:15:29.440 you're like me. We're probably in our little school books 256 00:15:29.480 --> 00:15:34.519 the least likely people to be talking about i mean, 257 00:15:34.720 --> 00:15:39.480 talking about time travel and this. But we are and 258 00:15:39.519 --> 00:15:42.960 I want to ask you this. You're excited about this. 259 00:15:43.799 --> 00:15:47.519 There are things happening. The question I want to ask 260 00:15:47.559 --> 00:15:52.399 you is what of the book, the characters, the screenplay 261 00:15:52.399 --> 00:15:55.360 Because screenplays are very different than books. People don't know that. 262 00:15:56.039 --> 00:15:59.559 But what is it about creating the screenplay that gave 263 00:15:59.600 --> 00:16:04.039 you more insight into these characters? 264 00:16:05.440 --> 00:16:10.000 Well, because you have to you have to literally bring 265 00:16:10.080 --> 00:16:13.840 those characters to life on the big screen, and so 266 00:16:14.360 --> 00:16:19.720 you're you're setting the tone of the atmosphere and the environment. 267 00:16:19.840 --> 00:16:25.159 I mean, it's it makes it, It makes it more real. 268 00:16:25.519 --> 00:16:28.799 I mean that's that's the probably the best answer to 269 00:16:28.879 --> 00:16:31.399 the question is this, you know, And that's why I 270 00:16:31.480 --> 00:16:34.440 was saying, you know, these these uh, you know, comic 271 00:16:34.559 --> 00:16:37.799 book characters are superheroes. We've got a world full of 272 00:16:37.840 --> 00:16:41.480 superheroes right now. These are flesh and blood people and 273 00:16:41.519 --> 00:16:50.320 so they're reacting to these circumstances. And you know Vedoma Lover, 274 00:16:50.600 --> 00:16:54.360 she's one of the She's the gypsy in Bad strikes, 275 00:16:54.399 --> 00:16:58.919 you know, and and so you're you would you probably 276 00:16:58.919 --> 00:17:02.200 love this because she's the one that kind of sees 277 00:17:02.279 --> 00:17:05.680 the future as a love part of the person. And 278 00:17:05.839 --> 00:17:08.519 so you know, they're they're in the middle of the 279 00:17:08.599 --> 00:17:11.440 rescue in the field and the bad Love Gang or 280 00:17:11.480 --> 00:17:14.559 getting the kind of helping out all the prisoners into 281 00:17:14.599 --> 00:17:18.920 the be seventeen and Vedoma. As she's going through the door, 282 00:17:19.039 --> 00:17:23.440 she pinches Bubble but you know, on the cheek and 283 00:17:23.519 --> 00:17:26.240 she says, I like you future boy. 284 00:17:27.039 --> 00:17:30.599 Yeah, see, those are perfect. 285 00:17:30.759 --> 00:17:30.960 You know. 286 00:17:31.960 --> 00:17:36.920 I was sitting here and I was thinking, what does 287 00:17:36.960 --> 00:17:40.839 this remind me of? And what I love about this? 288 00:17:41.079 --> 00:17:43.079 And there was once upon a time there was a. 289 00:17:43.039 --> 00:17:44.319 Really short lived series. 290 00:17:44.359 --> 00:17:47.680 I wish they'd bring it back, and it was called Serenity, 291 00:17:48.759 --> 00:17:51.119 and Morain and Bachern was in it. I mean, it's 292 00:17:51.160 --> 00:17:56.680 just early you know, great acting, great concepts, but also 293 00:17:57.240 --> 00:18:01.640 dynamics of human nature. And that too is part of 294 00:18:01.680 --> 00:18:04.240 the book, that too, is it You're bringing in a 295 00:18:04.319 --> 00:18:08.240 dynamic of human nature. And let's start with how you 296 00:18:08.400 --> 00:18:12.160 brought facts into fantasy by the work you did to 297 00:18:12.240 --> 00:18:16.480 research Roosevelt. Come on, now, that's just not made up Roosevelt. 298 00:18:16.559 --> 00:18:17.759 You did your job on that. 299 00:18:18.359 --> 00:18:24.039 Oh yeah, because all the dates, even the time of 300 00:18:24.200 --> 00:18:27.440 day or the meeting times, I did research into when 301 00:18:27.480 --> 00:18:34.319 they actually happened. And so it my sister Kathy, who 302 00:18:34.400 --> 00:18:38.319 I dedicated the book to. By the way, she's now 303 00:18:38.480 --> 00:18:42.279 in her eighth year after being treated for stage three 304 00:18:42.440 --> 00:18:47.000 triple negative breast cancer and so we're so thankful for that. 305 00:18:47.039 --> 00:18:51.599 But so she was an English teacher, and she was 306 00:18:51.640 --> 00:18:54.559 the first one I dedicated Bad Love Strikes to her. 307 00:18:54.599 --> 00:18:57.799 But I sent her that book, and you know, so 308 00:18:57.920 --> 00:19:00.640 I'm writing it and she's reading it, and she calls 309 00:19:00.720 --> 00:19:04.279 me and she goes, you know, Kevin, you need to 310 00:19:04.359 --> 00:19:07.920 keep going with this because I think you're onto something. 311 00:19:08.000 --> 00:19:10.480 She says, I keep reading this and I can't figure 312 00:19:10.559 --> 00:19:13.799 out which part is fact and which part is fiction. 313 00:19:14.759 --> 00:19:19.880 And so coming from an English teacher, I was like, Okay, 314 00:19:20.079 --> 00:19:21.880 I'm on to something here. 315 00:19:21.720 --> 00:19:24.519 You know, yeah, yeah, you know, it's so difficult for 316 00:19:24.640 --> 00:19:30.400 English teachers to transcend the written word and indulge in 317 00:19:30.559 --> 00:19:34.319 conceptual because they're so used to is it being written right? 318 00:19:34.480 --> 00:19:35.400 Is it the right grammar? 319 00:19:35.519 --> 00:19:35.720 You know? 320 00:19:35.839 --> 00:19:38.640 Right? But that is saying something. 321 00:19:38.680 --> 00:19:44.240 You know. Part of that is the momentum that I 322 00:19:44.359 --> 00:19:51.880 find the momentum and part of the momentum, even though 323 00:19:51.880 --> 00:19:55.759 the stage is futuristic and yet not, even though it's 324 00:19:55.799 --> 00:20:00.240 real characters and yet the world of possibilities, there is 325 00:20:00.240 --> 00:20:03.200 a momentum that builds up like maybe more than maybe 326 00:20:03.279 --> 00:20:05.720 more like an inner excitement, if you know what I mean. 327 00:20:06.400 --> 00:20:08.839 That touches a part of me when I read them, 328 00:20:09.240 --> 00:20:11.160 That touch is a part of me as if I've 329 00:20:11.160 --> 00:20:14.839 already been there? Is that even making sense? And I 330 00:20:15.000 --> 00:20:22.079 wonder if, in writing this, how these downloads of creativity 331 00:20:22.160 --> 00:20:22.680 came to you? 332 00:20:25.440 --> 00:20:33.079 Well, it's almost it's almost a spiritual question, because. 333 00:20:33.039 --> 00:20:38.319 Yes it is, it's an Einstein question. You can't solve 334 00:20:38.359 --> 00:20:39.279 the problem at. 335 00:20:39.119 --> 00:20:43.440 The level it was great, Well, it is because as 336 00:20:43.559 --> 00:20:47.720 I I mean, yeah, I wrote Bad Love Strikes in 337 00:20:47.880 --> 00:20:52.359 ninety days. That's to be to be your first novel 338 00:20:52.400 --> 00:20:54.599 and to write it in ninety days and then have 339 00:20:54.720 --> 00:20:59.279 accepted for publication six weeks later. That's just crazy. I mean, 340 00:20:59.480 --> 00:21:03.200 it's it's it's like a spiritual journey. And I think 341 00:21:03.880 --> 00:21:09.039 for me, it really I felt like I was there. 342 00:21:09.799 --> 00:21:14.359 And I've had people that that I've interviewed with and 343 00:21:14.400 --> 00:21:17.319 who have read it and such that that that kind 344 00:21:17.359 --> 00:21:22.200 of questioned me, like, you know, were you really there? 345 00:21:22.240 --> 00:21:26.160 You know, were you did? You really go to Chelmouth? 346 00:21:26.759 --> 00:21:31.440 And I really did go to the Little White House 347 00:21:32.200 --> 00:21:35.039 in Warm Springs, Georgia when I was doing all my 348 00:21:35.200 --> 00:21:40.720 research on Roosevelt. So I stood in his bedroom at 349 00:21:40.759 --> 00:21:45.720 the Little White House in Warm Springs and imagined the 350 00:21:45.759 --> 00:21:47.920 Bad Love Gang being there with him, you know. 351 00:21:48.839 --> 00:21:54.160 And so yeah, yeah, what I love about it. I mean, 352 00:21:54.200 --> 00:21:57.119 these characters take road trips. I love road trips, right, 353 00:21:57.599 --> 00:22:00.960 But they take these road trips and they stayed famous places. 354 00:22:01.440 --> 00:22:04.240 And you have done the same, you know, in your 355 00:22:04.279 --> 00:22:08.839 research and your exploration. And that's what I love about it, 356 00:22:08.920 --> 00:22:11.880 because you know, while you are the author of pen 357 00:22:12.000 --> 00:22:16.559 in Hand, there's also an energy that gets that happens. 358 00:22:16.880 --> 00:22:20.680 There's something that happens between a person's innovation and the 359 00:22:20.720 --> 00:22:26.480 thing they're creating. It's almost like an exponential movement. You know, 360 00:22:26.680 --> 00:22:29.319 once you're aligned with something, it takes on a life 361 00:22:29.319 --> 00:22:32.480 of its own. And yet I can see that because 362 00:22:32.559 --> 00:22:37.880 these this characters are traveling as if they are you, 363 00:22:38.839 --> 00:22:41.559 and traveling is if they're not you. Do you understand what. 364 00:22:41.519 --> 00:22:42.400 I'm trying to say? 365 00:22:43.200 --> 00:22:46.559 But part of that is important, and so you know, 366 00:22:46.759 --> 00:22:52.039 I love that we're talking about this because it's your 367 00:22:52.079 --> 00:22:57.519 life experience, your experience working with cancer patients, your experience 368 00:22:57.599 --> 00:23:01.240 of hope, and what you do as a doctor. I mean, 369 00:23:01.240 --> 00:23:05.400 we cannot leave that out of the conversation today. When 370 00:23:05.440 --> 00:23:09.759 you choose the life path that you have chosen, as 371 00:23:09.759 --> 00:23:12.279 you said to me, Yeah, when you choose the life 372 00:23:12.359 --> 00:23:14.319 path that you have chosen, like you said to me, 373 00:23:14.559 --> 00:23:17.279 you were working with amazing patients. 374 00:23:16.799 --> 00:23:18.599 Today, right, Yeah, that's right. 375 00:23:19.920 --> 00:23:24.759 I can't help but imagine how they help sculpt part 376 00:23:24.880 --> 00:23:27.559 of what you're drawn to write about. 377 00:23:29.519 --> 00:23:33.599 I've learned more from my patients over these forty years 378 00:23:33.680 --> 00:23:39.519 than any other life experience. I mean, these are I 379 00:23:39.640 --> 00:23:43.920 happen to be a cancer specialist, and so you know, 380 00:23:44.599 --> 00:23:47.640 we're doing a lot better at curing cancer nowadays. But 381 00:23:47.759 --> 00:23:50.440 even if you have a very curable cancer, once the 382 00:23:50.519 --> 00:23:54.599 doctor says you have cancer, you think that death is 383 00:23:54.680 --> 00:23:59.559 knocked on your door. And so it really changes. It 384 00:23:59.680 --> 00:24:04.640 changed the dynamics. It's not like you have a runny nose. 385 00:24:04.960 --> 00:24:08.559 I mean, you know, are a well baby. It's just different. 386 00:24:08.799 --> 00:24:12.400 And so because then you start thinking about, well, what 387 00:24:12.599 --> 00:24:17.000 is really important in life? And so it's been a 388 00:24:17.079 --> 00:24:21.599 total blessing to me pat to work with all of 389 00:24:21.640 --> 00:24:26.880 these people, and it's just I think that, you know, 390 00:24:26.960 --> 00:24:30.319 I think God's getting me ready now for retirement into 391 00:24:30.359 --> 00:24:32.880 move in a new direction and to share all these 392 00:24:32.920 --> 00:24:37.119 things that I've learned all these years from working with 393 00:24:37.440 --> 00:24:41.240 all these patients. I mean. And so the book is 394 00:24:41.319 --> 00:24:44.799 about hope. You hit the nail on the head, and 395 00:24:45.079 --> 00:24:47.880 that is what I'm all about. As a cancer doctor. 396 00:24:48.440 --> 00:24:52.119 If you have bad news, I'll tell you, Okay, your 397 00:24:52.160 --> 00:24:54.799 cancer has spread to your lung. But then in the 398 00:24:54.839 --> 00:24:56.920 next sentence, I'll say, but this is what we're going 399 00:24:57.000 --> 00:25:00.519 to do about it. And so that's what hope is. 400 00:25:00.880 --> 00:25:07.240 You know. Hope is not you know, being pollyannish about 401 00:25:07.319 --> 00:25:12.000