Speaker 1: Do you see this behind me? You know this isn't
Speaker 1: a virtual background. By the way, I've actually had a
Speaker 1: billboard sized poster review put up on a roundabout in Croydon.
Speaker 1: This is it and that can make my finger disappear.
Speaker 1: Like the way it just frames the bald head. Well done.
Speaker 1: It gives me a little white outline of the bald head,
Speaker 1: didn't it does?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Actually?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, good in it?
Speaker 2: That is good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's do it. Podcast number one of the week
Speaker 1: Jamie Murray announced his retirement. What happened in your doubles?
Speaker 1: Your first point is just unbelievable, and I've got a
Speaker 1: feeder of forehand. But it's an office worker special and
Speaker 1: I want to do that is to almost highlight the
Speaker 1: fact that you never had a job, so just to
Speaker 1: see how you would feel if you were an office
Speaker 1: worker like the millions of automated drones out there, just
Speaker 1: like I was for about ten years. So anyway, Marcus willis,
Speaker 1: how are you mate?
Speaker 2: I'm not too bad, thank you.
Speaker 1: I'm in Rome now or when in Rome?
Speaker 2: When in Rome? Yeah, I haven't done that yet. I've
Speaker 2: been biting my lip. It's very difficult trying to the original.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, when in Rome you do have to act
Speaker 1: like do you remember that from Anchorman? Yeah, where he
Speaker 1: just goes when in room.
Speaker 2: I love that film so good.
Speaker 1: Jesus Christ. There's a mate of mine who watched it
Speaker 1: and then just straight back to the beginning watched it
Speaker 1: all again.
Speaker 2: Yes, it's up there for me.
Speaker 1: Yeah. We spent ages just just quoted it and stuff like. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I still think of it all the time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Rich Mahogany, Yeah, you know what, you know, the
Speaker 3: scripting thing takes as well.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, man, how do they keep it?
Speaker 2: Huh huh. So doesn't feel like a sorry right anyway? Tennis?
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know that the bit that gets just just
Speaker 1: quickly before before we move on to the laborious task
Speaker 1: of tennis, the bit that gets me in that the
Speaker 1: script you know when he goes, I'm Rom Burgundy. Well,
Speaker 1: I used to produce the Alan Brazil Breakfast Show on
Speaker 1: Talk Sport and then was let's just say a late
Speaker 1: night guy and he would get in the theme music could
Speaker 1: be playing at six oh two after the news or something,
Speaker 1: and he would get into the office then and you'd
Speaker 1: just pass him the script and he was a really
Speaker 1: good script reader. He still is I'm talking about him
Speaker 1: past tense. He's still there. He's still doing it. He's
Speaker 1: an excellent script reader. Whatever you give him straight on
Speaker 1: and he comes straight in and do the manning Welcome
Speaker 1: to the Alan Brail boom and he's in. But every
Speaker 1: bit of punctuation capsule letters he would read out okay.
Speaker 1: And one morning we had Big Sam Allardyce on okay
Speaker 1: and someone had forgotten to write Sam. So Alan Brazil
Speaker 1: doesn't know what he's reading out. He just reads and he's.
Speaker 4: Like, right coming up Big Alla Dace, or been a
Speaker 4: while since we've heard from Big Ala days and Big
Speaker 4: Ala days on the shore the small.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and so you know that. I'm Ron bog always
Speaker 1: always takes me back to anything you gave our you
Speaker 1: had to read about ten times over. Something seismic has
Speaker 1: happened in British tennis this week. And it's seismic because
Speaker 1: it's like two decades worth in that we're not going
Speaker 1: to have a Murray involved at the top end of
Speaker 1: British tennis. Jamie Murray's announced his retirement. Did it take
Speaker 1: you by surprise?
Speaker 2: No, No, it didn't take me by surprise. No one
Speaker 2: ever saw him hitting over the off season. I think
Speaker 2: he was out in South America. He was running a lot,
Speaker 2: doing a lot of gym, but he wasn't doing is
Speaker 2: is tennise. He wasn't at the NTC. He wasn't pairing
Speaker 2: up with people. His ranking it gone kind of below
Speaker 2: mine either, So so yeah, I wasn't. I wasn't surprised
Speaker 2: entirely at all. Actually, but it's sad, right because even
Speaker 2: when I was a junior, I think Jamie was playing dubs.
Speaker 2: I mean he was, because when I was on the
Speaker 2: when I was Davis Cup water Boy, he was. He
Speaker 2: was playing doubles there with Ross Hutchins and he was
Speaker 2: playing singles. So he was already then when I was, well,
Speaker 2: this is twenty years ago, it was already a top
Speaker 2: dogs fair then, so this is yeah, it's strange, but
Speaker 2: it's you know, I'm pretty sure he's sure about it.
Speaker 2: I was out in Umag when he when he pulled out,
Speaker 2: like I went for dinner with him the night before
Speaker 2: and he then you know, I had to pull out
Speaker 2: with ill developed pneumonia, like really seriously ill. And then
Speaker 2: and then I think he from what he said, he
Speaker 2: never picked up he didn't pick up the racket against
Speaker 2: to go training, and just I guess felt that that
Speaker 2: was it. But it must be tough, right because he's
Speaker 2: been he's been at the top level so long. He
Speaker 2: said he was getting anxiety by the server, wasn't enjoying
Speaker 2: it turning up the tournaments. And I guess when you
Speaker 2: have that for a prolonged period of time, that's and
Speaker 2: you don't feel like you want to keep going. I
Speaker 2: guess I guess that's it.
Speaker 1: Well, there's there's he's doing loads of loads of media,
Speaker 1: and he's a really good talker, isn't He's a you know,
Speaker 1: he's a great broadcaster. So I'm sure that we're not
Speaker 1: going to see the end of and and and he's
Speaker 1: there to kind of endlessly talk about the Grand Slams
Speaker 1: and everything else. What was he like as a person
Speaker 1: compared to Andy, who always comes across as pretty serious,
Speaker 1: pretty introverted.
Speaker 2: Yeah, of course he's got he's got good sense of humor.
Speaker 2: I don't know overly well, but we throw a few
Speaker 2: office quotes that other sometimes mainly me to him, and
Speaker 2: and he's you know, my knows my coach Adam very
Speaker 2: well as well. So yeah, we have a we have
Speaker 2: a good laugh. But no, I'm not. I've probably got
Speaker 2: to know him more in the last couple of years
Speaker 2: than I ever did. What was he great at his
Speaker 2: net game? Anything around the net just was insane. I
Speaker 2: played him last year in Eastbourne and he's right, he
Speaker 2: wasn't serving particularly well, but anything around the net it
Speaker 2: was gone quick, gone covered a lot. That was his thing.
Speaker 2: If if you could stop him coming into the net,
Speaker 2: then you've got a chance. But but yeah, I don't
Speaker 2: think he missed a volley the whole match. But but
Speaker 2: more than that, you you.
Speaker 1: Leave it more than that the net as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but didn't But yeah, you love him and get
Speaker 2: back to that as well. He just had this massive
Speaker 2: reach and good read of what you were doing with
Speaker 2: the return and just I mean one of those people
Speaker 2: you kind of you're hitting the ball and you can
Speaker 2: see them ever were and it's very hard to then
Speaker 2: focus focus on the shot. But yeah, if you I
Speaker 2: think the tactic, well, if you keep him away from
Speaker 2: a net, you have a chance. But yeah, he was.
Speaker 2: He was phenomenal with his with his foot I did
Speaker 2: I did. I did a session with him before I
Speaker 2: went out to Uma, and it was all about the legs,
Speaker 2: all about putting this leg and position and moving from
Speaker 2: there and how you plant your footwork basically. But he
Speaker 2: made you know when someone's really good at something and
Speaker 2: they talk about it like it's going to be easy,
Speaker 2: and you just do this Smithy. Smithy did that and
Speaker 2: fourhand returns to me once. He was just just do that,
Speaker 2: just just hit it. Yeah, but he was. He was
Speaker 2: so good at it. But yeah, I'm still trying to
Speaker 2: implement some of the stuff we did in those couple
Speaker 2: of days. But yeah, it was.
Speaker 1: Got one like that. I went to a Boris Becker
Speaker 1: masterclass once paid a fortune is. This would have been
Speaker 1: about a year after he retired, and it was sponsored
Speaker 1: by some champagne company or something like that, and he
Speaker 1: Becker was talking about getting a head on grass and
Speaker 1: it was so matter of fact. He was like, okay,
Speaker 1: so what do you go.
Speaker 4: You've got to hit one hundred and twenty odd wide
Speaker 4: and then get into the service box that first volley.
Speaker 1: And he had a British player at the time down
Speaker 1: the other end. I'm thinking maybe an Arvin Palmer time
Speaker 1: and Becker hit like a one twenty and was two
Speaker 1: steps into the service box, angle volley away and he
Speaker 1: did it with like a battery pack, and Mike here
Speaker 1: was talking through it. You know.
Speaker 4: So if the press is on, you've got to hit
Speaker 4: the one twenty odd way and then get into the
Speaker 4: service Buket.
Speaker 1: And so I just wrote down on a notepad because
Speaker 1: I thought I'll bring a notepad, you know, make sure
Speaker 1: that I get some of this gold. I just wrote down,
Speaker 1: be better and that was that. So yeah, working on
Speaker 1: it still. I'm on the I'm on the practic coarter laugh.
Speaker 2: And then pumping before.
Speaker 1: But that's when when Becker's working with Djokovic. I think
Speaker 1: they must talk a language that only they know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they must say we're all absolutely terrible.
Speaker 1: Yeah, or just confused.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, it might be confused. It might be confusion,
Speaker 2: just confused by us. Just do that?
Speaker 1: Would would Jamie Murray make a good coach?
Speaker 2: I think so? I think it'd be very good. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm not sure how much I want to do it though.
Speaker 1: Yeah. It was the traveling, isn't it. But you know,
Speaker 1: he's He's a product of Louis Kaye in so many ways,
Speaker 1: isn't he He absorbs he is he did absorb Louie's
Speaker 1: information so well, and Louis is not getting younger, and
Speaker 1: I wonder if there's a role for Jamie in terms
Speaker 1: of doubles players and keeping up the uh, you know,
Speaker 1: the role of form that we've had are.
Speaker 2: Going to be a gap for that and he'll know
Speaker 2: the system well. But yeah, I mean I suppose.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: The problem is he's probably got so many options. I
Speaker 2: don't even know if.
Speaker 1: We go back through British tennis and we go overall
Speaker 1: with Virginia Wade and Andy Murray, Tim Hemman Fred Perry,
Speaker 1: even right, where does Jamie Murray sit in the best
Speaker 1: we've ever had?
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know the exactly. I know he
Speaker 2: was world number one. I know we've had a few
Speaker 2: other world number ones. It might not be a numbers
Speaker 2: the best doubles career you've had, but in terms of
Speaker 2: longevity and kind of what he's achieved Olympian and it's
Speaker 2: pretty pretty tough too. I mean, how many years was
Speaker 2: he top ten, top twenty in the world. It's phenomenal really.
Speaker 1: Onto real tennis because after the break, we want to
Speaker 1: know what's happened in your doubles last week and the
Speaker 1: video that you sent me of possibly the only point
Speaker 1: last week that gets the two hundred and fifty pounds
Speaker 1: from you've been framed. Welcome back to what you're talking about.
Speaker 1: Willis he is in Rome? When in Rome and I'm
Speaker 1: near Croydon, we've all got a dream what this time
Speaker 1: of year? Well, I'm thinking about lots of people want
Speaker 1: a villa in Croydon this time of year. But look,
Speaker 1: there's only one way to tell. It's a It's a
Speaker 1: public vote, isn't it. I think it's something that we've
Speaker 1: got to put up. Let's talk before we talk about
Speaker 1: why you're in Rome and things. Let's talk about last week.
Speaker 1: We spoke on the previous part about coming off the
Speaker 1: back of some difficult form, some training block. First of all,
Speaker 1: you spoke about the fix to your volleys. Is it
Speaker 1: completely fixed? And will nothing go wrong? Now?
Speaker 2: Yeah? That's it forever Now I never have to work
Speaker 2: on it again. So that's good. No, Yeah, so much better,
Speaker 2: so much better. Yeah, in a better headspace with it
Speaker 2: all as well. So I've got a plan. I'm practicing
Speaker 2: and working on things, and yeah, i feel like I'm improving,
Speaker 2: which is which is great. If I feel like I'm improving,
Speaker 2: then I must be.
Speaker 1: So who are you partnering and you in Kitty an American,
Speaker 1: a younger American.
Speaker 2: Right American, Yeah, early twenties, you know, good college player,
Speaker 2: and he's already nearly top hundred. So he's doing well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I saw that. It's a pretty pretty big rise.
Speaker 1: But he's kind of just bypassed the singles, isn't he
Speaker 1: He's gone straight in for the dubs. He's he a
Speaker 1: double specialist. So like for for me, I told you,
Speaker 1: I tried to. I tried to watch the match. I
Speaker 1: couldn't get the stream. And for those who don't know him,
Speaker 1: what's he like? But I'm imagining like a six five,
Speaker 1: big server, good volleyer type.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a good all around tennis player. Actually, got
Speaker 2: lots of power, goes after returns. He's got some good
Speaker 2: feel as well that will come up with these lobs
Speaker 2: that you don't think are wrong. He sees the court
Speaker 2: pretty well. He's just he's just got a lot of weapons. Yeah,
Speaker 2: And as you say, he's a.
Speaker 1: Big guy, so and plane outside.
Speaker 2: He's playing outside. I'm playing juice.
Speaker 1: Yeah, just talk talk us through the first point of
Speaker 1: a match last week that you sent me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, second round, sorry, caught finals, I forgot God I've
Speaker 2: had quite a good return. The guy said, volley, and
Speaker 2: he's hit a half volley down the line and Ben's
Speaker 2: kind of come across. So I look for the middle
Speaker 2: slash into set, and I'm kind of hitting the return
Speaker 2: and coming forward, and as I've seen the borco passed him,
Speaker 2: I've tried to change direction. And then what appeared to
Speaker 2: happen was, you know, there was something wrong with a
Speaker 2: clay court. Someone must have put you know, washing up
Speaker 2: liquid down it before, and I ended up kind of
Speaker 2: eating clay but trying to rescue it two or three times.
Speaker 2: First I had to go to my taut first point
Speaker 2: in the match for the first time in history because
Speaker 2: because yeah, I lost my footing. So we can we
Speaker 2: can put the video up, can't we?
Speaker 1: Oh, We've got to put it up. It's brilliant. I
Speaker 1: really really enjoyed it. I think laughing a bit at
Speaker 1: your misfortune is something that I'm really enjoying more and more.
Speaker 2: That's good. But it's I know, it's funny because if
Speaker 2: I imagined that I was someone else, I'd find it
Speaker 2: really really funny. Sometimes you've got to take yourself out
Speaker 2: of yourself and laugh at someone else. Yeah, Yeah, so yeah,
Speaker 2: that was interesting. Then we went then we went fall
Speaker 2: off down pretty quickly after that three juice points went
Speaker 2: fall off down, so excuse it was good clay all
Speaker 2: over my forehead and nipple and I was fall left down.
Speaker 1: I do love when you're on the floor that the
Speaker 1: umpire says, you're right, Yeah, you're okay.
Speaker 2: Yeah, madam great, Yeah, you don't worry. You just stay
Speaker 2: comfy and that chair. I'm good, but don't worry. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's it's just I hit quite a good return. I
Speaker 2: was like, oh, it's a shame part of me. It's
Speaker 2: like I were fifteen left down. That's not And then
Speaker 2: and then the next next point I hit, but luckily
Speaker 2: they didn't go to my forehand. But I couldn't grip
Speaker 2: the racket because there was clai all over my grip
Speaker 2: as well. So then I went to like wash everything down,
Speaker 2: put water on my grip, came out, got broken the
Speaker 2: juice or sorry Ben did. And then yeah, I said,
Speaker 2: we were at four left down.
Speaker 1: So this is your second round match, wasn't it?
Speaker 2: Quarter finals?
Speaker 1: Quarter of course? Yes, So we start in the round
Speaker 1: of sixteen and then you in your in your first
Speaker 1: round round of sixteen, yeah, it's quite it was important
Speaker 1: for you to get the win, there wasn't it Just
Speaker 1: surely mentally that is playing on your mind.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah, I suppose I lost three three matches
Speaker 2: in a row, two match Tierekser one atp two fifty.
Speaker 2: But it's it's the way I lost the two fifty.
Speaker 2: I didn't like. I felt like I was overthinking. I
Speaker 2: wasn't sure on stuff. And I can't be on the
Speaker 2: tennis court if I'm not sure on what where I'm
Speaker 2: going and thinking about which leg goes where, and you know, so,
Speaker 2: so it was important. I took that time out and
Speaker 2: trained and had a couple of days at home and
Speaker 2: just when I worked hard, because yeah, you come out
Speaker 2: to Portugal. I came out, I flew to Sunday morning,
Speaker 2: I got up at three in the morning. I did
Speaker 2: a session on Sunday and extra session that you know,
Speaker 2: I normally probably wouldn't do. And yeah, we were five
Speaker 2: three down and one seven five in the first set
Speaker 2: there as well, but quite unlucky to be five three down. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it was an important win, important win, but yeah, these
Speaker 2: are especially last week. It's a one two five, It's
Speaker 2: it's not an easy tournament. You're playing good clay players,
Speaker 2: so you know, I had to be open minded in
Speaker 2: the fact that every time I stepped on courter might
Speaker 2: not win. Yeah, and it's just trying to play as
Speaker 2: well as I can and I think, you know, I
Speaker 2: can get into that mindset, then good things happen. Just
Speaker 2: go and play. So yeah, we did well. We did well.
Speaker 2: We won some important points. It was our first match
Speaker 2: as a pair together and and yeah, came up with
Speaker 2: some clutch stuff actually, but there's still there's still room
Speaker 2: for improvement provement, which is which.
Speaker 1: Is good with the coach as well, isn't he So
Speaker 1: you are you working more as in a team almost?
Speaker 2: Yeah, we have been this this the last few days
Speaker 2: and since I started Portugal with we're there's a lot
Speaker 2: of chot about how we can be efficient as a
Speaker 2: as a pair rather than working on individual shots as such,
Speaker 2: sort of coming up with formations in plays rather than
Speaker 2: you know, you've got to hit a load of four
Speaker 2: hands and backhands and and and served. So it's it's
Speaker 2: you know, he's good Macaca work with the Brians, won
Speaker 2: sixteen slams of the Brians or something, so he knows
Speaker 2: what he's doing so that that's been really beneficial. And
Speaker 2: yesterday with a fitness trainer, so still here to tell
Speaker 2: the tale. Today some clay court sprints and you've got
Speaker 2: twenty seconds off in between each one. You do six sets.
Speaker 1: Sounds fun?
Speaker 2: Not good? No, it wasn't fun. It wasn't fun. My
Speaker 2: heart rate went to one eight six, Okay.
Speaker 1: So yeah that's about your peak, isn't it. That's just
Speaker 1: slightly over.
Speaker 2: What one of one above what my maction one above.
Speaker 1: Your defe levels? Yeah? Good?
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that was good, a classic classic Friday practice. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So in the second round you said, like the first
Speaker 1: set is suddenly you're you're facing a bit of a
Speaker 1: mountain to climb for love. But it was it was tight, right.
Speaker 2: It was tight. Yeah, sorry, it's just got some Greek
Speaker 2: yogurt there. Yeah, it was tight. We lost well, so
Speaker 2: we lost three and four for all, but four to
Speaker 2: two first set. We had a break point. I made
Speaker 2: the return, opened up the angle, hit the angle, sent
Speaker 2: them the wrong way, hit the tape and bounce bounce
Speaker 2: the wrong way. So that would have been four to
Speaker 2: three on serve back into the match. Yeah, disappointing, And
Speaker 2: then we had break point to break back at five
Speaker 2: to three as well, So it was just you know,
Speaker 2: we got broken twice from thirty love up, once from
Speaker 2: forty fifteen, once from thirty love, and it was just
Speaker 2: kind of like ah, and second set, I'd say we
Speaker 2: missed a lot of makeable balls by an inch or so,
Speaker 2: Like I've put the chip lap over their head and
Speaker 2: it landed an inch wide and you're like, you think
Speaker 2: it's going in and it's not.
Speaker 1: Tennis. Tennis is rubbish, isn't it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it can be. It was. It was. It
Speaker 2: was frustrating because you know, I felt like we were
Speaker 2: we were, yeah, a couple of inches off, playing very
Speaker 2: very well, and we know this pair of this pair
Speaker 2: are good. They won this ornament in the end as well,
Speaker 2: so they're a good pair. They you know, wan some
Speaker 2: big matches this year already made Semis of a two
Speaker 2: fifty beat hair Bear and Thompson at Aussie Open that
Speaker 2: they're good. But yeah, in that match, there were more
Speaker 2: chances could have played a little better.
Speaker 1: Well, all of this baton ball stuff has prohibited you
Speaker 1: having an actual job and coming up after the break.
Speaker 1: It's a Federer forehand special of office working.
Speaker 2: Let me just get my pen hold on. So I
Speaker 2: need need a laptop, I need a stylus, Yeah, I do.
Speaker 1: Welcome back to the what You're talking about Willis podcast
Speaker 1: and act three. Here we go now Federer forehand. The
Speaker 1: nation is gripped by this because obviously ten years ago
Speaker 1: this year you played Roger Fedderer on Center Court, and
Speaker 1: you know all about how beautiful Roger Fedder's forehand is.
Speaker 1: By the way, on that coming up very soon on
Speaker 1: the word You're talking about Willis podcast, we're actually going
Speaker 1: to be revisiting the run of Wimwood and twenty sixteen,
Speaker 1: ten years on. We're going to delve into Marcus's vast
Speaker 1: NASA like computer of a brain and get everything over
Speaker 1: a three or four parts special, and we're also going
Speaker 1: to talk to some people who were there watching and
Speaker 1: really lift the lid and get in behind the curtain
Speaker 1: of that run. But before that, you know exactly how
Speaker 1: beautiful Roger Fedder's forehand is. And so far, we've had
Speaker 1: federalforehand specials on school. Yeah, we've had a Federal fourhands
Speaker 1: special on.
Speaker 2: Films.
Speaker 1: I feel I feel there's more but an office workers special.
Speaker 1: So have you ever worked in an office?
Speaker 2: No, I've heard you. I've been friends of people that do,
Speaker 2: so I've heard a lot of the Lincoln. I can't
Speaker 2: say I'm like gagging to be one one though.
Speaker 1: No, And what I want here really is feel free
Speaker 1: to ask a question because you might not know. And
Speaker 1: I worked in an office for a decade, but you
Speaker 1: might not know, so feel free. Nothing's too big and
Speaker 1: dumb here, never is. The way this game works is
Speaker 1: I'm going to call out something for an office work,
Speaker 1: a special and you have to say if it is
Speaker 1: better or more beautiful than Roger Federer's forehand or not.
Speaker 1: And it's tense, which is why we're playing this question
Speaker 1: number one reading an email where somebody has accidentally hit
Speaker 1: the reply all button.
Speaker 2: Oh that's a strong start, Dave. And it's great No,
Speaker 2: because there's office stuff. Yeah, okay, we're not meant to
Speaker 2: say this. It's quite boring anyway.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but sometimes I mean, like there is ones where
Speaker 1: they'll say, you know, like Nancy is going to be
Speaker 1: let the accounts department, and someone accidentally replies to it
Speaker 1: all with thank god and the buzz.
Speaker 2: Thank god I didn't like her anyway. Okay, Well, in
Speaker 2: that content, then in that context and it's it's probably yes,
Speaker 2: but I think on the average of on the average
Speaker 2: of emails, it's probably a no.
Speaker 1: It's a no, right, okay, So okay, fine, a team
Speaker 1: building day out.
Speaker 2: I'm just thinking about the office now.
Speaker 1: No. Still no passive aggressive signs in the kitchen, please
Speaker 1: wash up these plates?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I love this kitchen.
Speaker 1: Is not your kitchen. Not touch mine.
Speaker 4: This is my milk.
Speaker 1: I am lactose indolerant.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. No. If I have to think about it's
Speaker 2: a no, isn't it. I've never had a yes. I
Speaker 2: don't think I'm fed's one.
Speaker 1: Okay. Finding a way to write best of luck in
Speaker 1: a leaving card when you're the sixteenth person to receive it,
Speaker 1: you any questions on that one?
Speaker 2: Yeah, so who's leaving?
Speaker 1: Well, so what happens is endlessly it's someone's birthday, wedding,
Speaker 1: leaving do endless and there's some do gooder who walks
Speaker 1: around the office with a giant envelope doing the collection.
Speaker 1: And you get the card, so you put whatever in.
Speaker 1: I think it's a minimum of paper money now because
Speaker 1: of inflation, and then you get the card and you
Speaker 1: don't really know Darren that well, and everyone before you
Speaker 1: is just written best of luck, Darren.
Speaker 2: And good luck with this some what's next?
Speaker 1: Right, And you've got to find you can't just write, oh,
Speaker 1: good the best of luck because it's been done. You've
Speaker 1: got to find another way to do it.
Speaker 2: And yeah, it's really uncomfortable though.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I used to go for it's been fantastic wherever
Speaker 1: it is. But it's one of those things that in
Speaker 1: offices you overuse those superlatives like fantastic because when someone goes, oh,
Speaker 1: I just send you that email, you get yeah, great, brilliant.
Speaker 1: All right, that's awesome, and it's not it. Let's be honest.
Speaker 1: So finding a way to write best of luck in a.
Speaker 2: Card, No, that's great. That sounds horrible.
Speaker 1: As I was reading it out, I thought, of course
Speaker 1: that's a no. No telling someone there's zoo their mic
Speaker 1: is off on zoom. Oh that has to be said
Speaker 1: forty times a day, your mic. I'll put it in
Speaker 1: the chat. I'll put it in the chat. We can't hear.
Speaker 1: I can't hear Alan, Alan, I think you might so,
Speaker 1: and then and then halfway through you get on, now
Speaker 1: is it on? Hello? Is it on? Yeah? That's right,
Speaker 1: we can hear you now Alan.
Speaker 2: Yeah that's great. Now Alan's got nothing good to say anyway,
Speaker 2: is he?
Speaker 1: No, of course not, no, no, no, no, no, okay, I've
Speaker 1: got the flip. Someone accidentally leaving their mic on Oh yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: it is better.
Speaker 2: Because I was thinking this the other day, like if
Speaker 2: someone leaves you, if you get a voicemail from someone,
Speaker 2: it's like five minutes long, and within five seconds, you know,
Speaker 2: there was a bum d.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, how long?
Speaker 2: How long? How long are you listening?
Speaker 1: Oh you did that to me the other day. You
Speaker 1: did that? Yeah, yeah, oh brilliant. Yeah, I got off
Speaker 1: I was I was coaching, I've got off court, and
Speaker 1: you left me about well I listened for like thirty
Speaker 1: seconds and it was all just rustling, so oh nice.
Speaker 2: Yeah that's about Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think you're just around like confectionery wrapping or something.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah yeah yeah, Chris, Chris, I yeah, so I
Speaker 2: find that really fun. I find it really hard not
Speaker 2: to listen to the whole thing stuff not me, yeah,
Speaker 2: because if they really fun?
Speaker 1: And of course, okay, so someone leaving their mic on accidentally, Yeah, yes, better,
Speaker 1: isn't It's better than Roger Freedder's forehand that's so weird. Yeah,
Speaker 1: getting to turn on the out of office reply just
Speaker 1: before you leave. So you're going to go on holiday
Speaker 1: and you get to do the I'm sorry I might't
Speaker 1: be here, Please speak to Tony or Shirley in my absence.
Speaker 2: But then they do reply anyway.
Speaker 1: Don't they They could, but you don't care.
Speaker 2: They get out of office reply and then a minute
Speaker 2: later they.
Speaker 1: Go, Yeah, so getting to turn the out of office
Speaker 1: reply on better or worse?
Speaker 2: Must be I think that must be better. Yeah, because
Speaker 2: I can't speak from my perspective here, but I'm guessing
Speaker 2: someone that would feel that joy would think it's better
Speaker 2: than Roger peedis for you.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I would liken it to in the Flintstones when
Speaker 1: Fred stops work and they pull the giant thing and
Speaker 1: he slides down a dinosaur's back, screaming Yabba dabadoo. When
Speaker 1: I was an office work, I used to love the
Speaker 1: day before holiday, bang on five o'clock. Okay, I've got
Speaker 1: one on similar vein having a meeting canceled which was
Speaker 1: scheduled for quarter past four on a Friday afternoon.
Speaker 2: Oh so, if you asked me ten years ago, I've
Speaker 2: said yes. But nowadays it's up, don't go to the
Speaker 2: pub anymore. Uh, let's say yes, because that's just the
Speaker 2: best time something to get canceled. It. Am I getting
Speaker 2: a bit leading with my yesters now though, because I
Speaker 2: remember at the start. Now I've said yes once, I'm
Speaker 2: just I'm just handing them out.
Speaker 1: An't you You are the officionado, You're the one who
Speaker 1: knows right, we can't go.
Speaker 2: I feel like I've got a bit lax in. I
Speaker 2: feel like it was I was like water tight, and
Speaker 2: now I'm just letting stuff get away with sub parenting.
Speaker 2: You can't. You got to keep the line the same.
Speaker 2: You can't one day, one day change it, because now
Speaker 2: it's gonna be now you're going to say, oh that
Speaker 2: bottle of water. I go, yeah, yeah, great, better than Feeder.
Speaker 2: I don't know, man, I feel like I need to
Speaker 2: get back to the drawing board, have a meeting and yeah,
Speaker 2: and actually work out Remember what we're dealing with here.
Speaker 2: It's Feeder's forehand. It's not just something you can willy
Speaker 2: nearly allow things to be better than certainly not emails.
Speaker 1: No, no, well, I feel like there's been a lot
Speaker 1: of soul search in there. And yeah, game, yeah, we're
Speaker 1: gonna call it a day, and I think, you know,
Speaker 1: we both both have to think about the journey we're
Speaker 1: on now.
Speaker 2: Really yeah, yeah, I'm just going to come back and
Speaker 2: I promise I'll be better.
Speaker 1: By At p. Seventy two, Marcus Willis.
Speaker 5: Thank you, Victor of Baranco on troumble, Sergeant Meajor of
Speaker 5: Craig Frederick and the trumpets and the composition the Army Blues.
Speaker 4: What at that