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They got 27 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:15,400 you covered at Game Day Men's Health Game Daymen's Health 28 00:01:15,599 --> 00:01:17,599 dot com to break it all down all the news 29 00:01:17,599 --> 00:01:19,439 and notes of the day, as well as talk about 30 00:01:19,439 --> 00:01:21,519 Game Day mans Health. We got Layanallo, the owner operator 31 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:23,719 of the Pleasant Grove location. Laye, how that heck? Are 32 00:01:23,799 --> 00:01:24,799 you man? Thanks for joining us. 33 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:27,079 Speaker 3: Good. I'm doing good then. 34 00:01:27,439 --> 00:01:31,319 Speaker 4: Kind of a cold and dreary day here, but trying 35 00:01:31,359 --> 00:01:33,359 to just stay warm inside. 36 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:36,239 Speaker 2: Much needed moisture though we needed this moisture. We need 37 00:01:36,519 --> 00:01:39,719 the high desert in which we live. Many we are 38 00:01:39,799 --> 00:01:44,120 grateful most definitely for the moisture. You mentioned cold. Mentioned cold, 39 00:01:44,159 --> 00:01:45,680 and I want to talk coop with you. I kind 40 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:48,079 of previewed it a little bit, but there was a 41 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:51,200 tweet I thought it was hilarious. About fourteen hours ago. 42 00:01:51,239 --> 00:01:53,319 I woke up in the middle of night, you know, 43 00:01:53,439 --> 00:01:58,319 due to unexpected circumstances, and I was like, I can't 44 00:01:58,319 --> 00:02:00,000 go back to sleep. I'm just gonna go on Twitter. 45 00:02:00,159 --> 00:02:02,079 Like that's that's what you do, right, I see what's 46 00:02:02,079 --> 00:02:08,039 going on? Tour Trey Alexander tweet quote tweeted, Uh this 47 00:02:08,159 --> 00:02:13,319 West Coast College sports guy that was featuring war remort 48 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:21,400 War Memorial Stadium, Laramie, y Owming And like, I played 49 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:25,800 it at Laramie, Wyoming. Cameron, you you played there? How 50 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:30,439 would you? How did you? Cameron Jens in November? You 51 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:33,240 played at night in November? And lem, why would you 52 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:35,400 describe that? Because, like, I mean, Lane just said it's 53 00:02:35,439 --> 00:02:36,599 cold here? How cold was it? 54 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 5: Well? Our plane got struck with lightning on the way there. 55 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:44,680 It actually like it did, but I guess that happens. Oh, 56 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:47,719 that was miserable. It was windy at our hotel, the 57 00:02:47,759 --> 00:02:50,479 hotels out in the middle of nowhere. That cold night 58 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:54,039 game it was it was. It was not fun. Yeah, 59 00:02:54,039 --> 00:02:56,599 I was not one of my most memorable experiences. But 60 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:59,199 we got but we were bull eligible after that. Okay, 61 00:02:59,719 --> 00:03:00,919 what you was that so fine? 62 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:09,360 Speaker 2: I think Lavelle once said it's better I would rather 63 00:03:09,479 --> 00:03:12,080 lose and live and probe with than than win and 64 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:17,400 live in Laramie. What an iconic quote that was. But 65 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:22,159 check this out. So Trey Alexander quote tweets this featured 66 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:25,639 post of War Memorial Stadium, and there's actually some good 67 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:27,840 photos here. I actually got to play at Laramie in 68 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:30,199 the daytime. It wasn't as cold. It was a little 69 00:03:30,199 --> 00:03:31,840 bit windy and blustering, and I had to run out 70 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:34,639 the flag and so that was a little bit difficult. 71 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:37,520 But this is what Trey said. And I want to 72 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:41,879 get your reaction to this lane. The lieutenant damn, the 73 00:03:41,919 --> 00:03:44,319 lieutenant Dan said, ask him why is it so bad? 74 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:49,479 Trey Alexander b way defensive back replies, there are no good, 75 00:03:49,759 --> 00:03:52,560 good hotels within like an hour of the school. The 76 00:03:52,599 --> 00:03:55,960 food out there is terrible. The visiting locker, remember the 77 00:03:56,039 --> 00:03:59,520 visiting locker really small. Is the size of a small 78 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:03,199 that shin stand and we were sitting knee to knee. 79 00:04:03,639 --> 00:04:07,000 Plus it's wyoming. Have you ever been out to War 80 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:09,520 Memorial Lane? Have you been out to Larai before? 81 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:13,759 Speaker 4: I've been to Laramie. So I drove through Laramie years 82 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:15,639 and years ago, and it was during the middle of 83 00:04:15,719 --> 00:04:19,560 winter and it was quite blustery. I have never been 84 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:22,600 to a game out there, but I have to be 85 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:24,959 careful what I say. One of my neighbors is actually from. 86 00:04:24,959 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 3: Laramie, and I love it. 87 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:30,519 Speaker 4: However, I have heard the horror stories of playing there, 88 00:04:31,439 --> 00:04:32,959 and I love that quote from Lavell. 89 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:36,720 Speaker 3: Such a funny, funny quote, it right, that said it. 90 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:39,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, Lavell said it once upon a time. 91 00:04:39,439 --> 00:04:40,959 Speaker 3: It was so fantastic. 92 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, just a great one. Yeah, we need a little 93 00:04:44,199 --> 00:04:47,920 levity before we start talking about this BAU basketball team 94 00:04:49,439 --> 00:04:52,560 prepping for Texas Tech. We hope we pray fingers crossed, 95 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:56,120 everyone praying fast for a victory over the Red Raiders 96 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:58,879 so that we you know, we're not having to send 97 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:03,240 out welfare checks for all of Cougarnation quite honestly, because 98 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:06,279 they're in dire straits right now. They're mentally and emotionally fatigued, 99 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:08,639 as with all the losses. But give me your purview, 100 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:10,360 give me your from your purch what you're seeing from 101 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:13,480 this Boa basketball team. Why has everything gone awry with 102 00:05:13,519 --> 00:05:14,160 this hoops team? 103 00:05:15,519 --> 00:05:17,600 Speaker 4: I mean it's it's what everyone else has said, right, 104 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:21,480 it's the injuries. I think this team was built very 105 00:05:21,519 --> 00:05:25,040 top heavy, and the supporting cast just isn't up to 106 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:27,639 par with what we've had in years past, and so 107 00:05:27,759 --> 00:05:31,319 we're asking guys that probably weren't going to have a 108 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:33,279 lot of playing time, we're asking them to do a 109 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:37,680 lot more than what they anticipated doing, right, And so 110 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:41,839 I honestly think that's what it is. It's the roster composition, 111 00:05:41,959 --> 00:05:45,560 it's the injuries, and hopefully it's something. I mean, we 112 00:05:45,879 --> 00:05:48,439 have to give some grace to Kevin Young, Right, this 113 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:51,279 is only the second ever roster that he's put together 114 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:55,519 at the college level. The first one even last year, 115 00:05:55,959 --> 00:05:59,839 he had a very abbreviated time to actually put something together. 116 00:06:00,199 --> 00:06:03,160 To really give them, you know, give them some grace 117 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:05,920 and hopefully we learn from this in the future. 118 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I hope that they figure it out right the 119 00:06:11,399 --> 00:06:14,120 construction of uh, I think you bring up the best 120 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:17,120 point here. Like I do feel like yu fans is 121 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:20,480 it's gotten like worse down the back end of the schedule. 122 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:24,079 They haven't had as much grace for the season ending 123 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:28,439 injuries because the effort hasn't been there. Like fans are 124 00:06:28,519 --> 00:06:31,879 willing to give grace, right, as long as there's a 125 00:06:31,959 --> 00:06:36,920 fervent effort of trying offensively, defensively, reboundingly, right and that's 126 00:06:36,959 --> 00:06:39,480 the issue right now. It's the lack of effort. It's 127 00:06:39,519 --> 00:06:43,040 the body language collectively as a team. And you're a fan, 128 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:45,720 you're a contributor. We all buy tickets, we all show up, 129 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:49,000 you know, Cougar Club and all that stuff. Like you know, 130 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:51,759 as a fan, isn't that what drives you a little 131 00:06:51,759 --> 00:06:55,000 bit crazy and you begin your your patience where stand 132 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:56,040 if the effort's not there? 133 00:06:57,480 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 4: Absolutely, And I think it comes that like we can 134 00:07:01,079 --> 00:07:04,279 place blame on the coaching. I mean, obviously they take 135 00:07:05,199 --> 00:07:08,319 a percentage of that blame, but I'm not sure there's 136 00:07:08,319 --> 00:07:12,120 a guy on this roster who is holding the other 137 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:16,160 players accountable. I mean to some to some degree, you 138 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:19,639 can say that Richie potentially was doing that before the 139 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:24,240 injury happened, but even then, like, I don't know who 140 00:07:24,279 --> 00:07:26,279 who the guy is this year. That's like kind of 141 00:07:26,399 --> 00:07:29,319 rallying the troops, is it? Aj? 142 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:30,639 Speaker 3: Is it Rob? 143 00:07:32,199 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 4: I have a hard time believing that it's well, I 144 00:07:34,639 --> 00:07:37,439 have a hard time believing it certain players, but it's 145 00:07:37,759 --> 00:07:42,480 it's I wonder who is that player who's trying to 146 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:44,839 to rally the troops now to get through the remainder 147 00:07:44,879 --> 00:07:46,040 of this regular season. 148 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:50,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know if they have somebody. I think, 149 00:07:50,519 --> 00:07:52,279 I don't know if they really can lean on anybody 150 00:07:52,319 --> 00:07:56,480 think is trying the best that he can. You know, 151 00:07:56,759 --> 00:07:59,680 I don't know. I'd have to lean in on on Ronald. 152 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:03,879 I think I saw like a video post pregame. Uh 153 00:08:04,439 --> 00:08:09,439 you know, I think the night before this last game, 154 00:08:09,519 --> 00:08:14,680 and it was like Rob Wright, kJ Perry, Xavieran State 155 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:19,279 and aj Debonsa. They were playing this like this hand 156 00:08:19,839 --> 00:08:22,879 karate on air game where you have to like turn 157 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:26,959 or like you miss, and and so like bau fans 158 00:08:26,959 --> 00:08:30,000 see that it's on TikTok or it's on Instagram, and 159 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:34,000 they're like, these guys don't care. These guys don't care. 160 00:08:34,039 --> 00:08:38,879 They're playing games before a big game. They don't care. 161 00:08:38,919 --> 00:08:41,159 And then you see the lack of effort, like you know, 162 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:43,159 and you wonder, like, you know, money is a big 163 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:48,200 thing here. Okay, So money is is a driving force 164 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:51,159 right now in the college athletics game, and you wonder 165 00:08:51,159 --> 00:08:54,639 how sustainable it is. You We thought for a moment, 166 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:57,240 with the house settlement and these universities being capable of 167 00:08:57,279 --> 00:09:00,679 allocating twenty million dollars in payroll to the team the players, 168 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:02,360 that this would we're kind of put a cap on it. 169 00:09:02,399 --> 00:09:05,240 We wouldn't have like this like arms race not so fast. 170 00:09:05,279 --> 00:09:08,720 That's not what happened. Collectives are still chipping in pay 171 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:11,679 rolls for basketball teams, like you're like, you know major 172 00:09:11,799 --> 00:09:14,120 basketball teams. I mean it's ten million plus now it 173 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:18,360 and it's going to continue to go up eventually, right, 174 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:22,120 Like donors may get donor fatigue. Do you think that 175 00:09:22,159 --> 00:09:25,159 will happen or do you think they'll continue to just 176 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:29,399 throw cash at these uh, these universities and try to 177 00:09:29,399 --> 00:09:31,600 figure out some sort of tax deduction along the way 178 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:31,879 with it. 179 00:09:33,519 --> 00:09:33,799 Speaker 3: Yeah. 180 00:09:33,879 --> 00:09:35,799 Speaker 4: I mean that that's the component right there that I'm 181 00:09:35,879 --> 00:09:39,039 less familiar with, just understanding what the incentive is for 182 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:43,080 some of these like super high donors. Why why they're paying, 183 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:45,919 like what's in it for them? But I do think 184 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:47,759 that like if the product that they're putting out on 185 00:09:47,759 --> 00:09:50,840 the court isn't delivering, yeah, they're gonna look for other 186 00:09:51,159 --> 00:09:55,080 other means or other other ways to get those tax deductions. 187 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:57,919 Like you can't think that like they're going to be satisfied. 188 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:00,159 I mean, first of all, these are people who have 189 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:03,919 excelled in whatever field of life they're in, and so 190 00:10:04,519 --> 00:10:07,399 if they see something like like some of the stuff 191 00:10:07,399 --> 00:10:11,679 that you were talking about and just a poor basketball product. 192 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:12,679 Speaker 3: You have to. 193 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:14,960 Speaker 4: Assume that eventually they're gonna be like, yeah, I think 194 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:17,080 I'm gonna hold off this year. I mean, we're seeing 195 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:19,320 that with other schools in the area. 196 00:10:21,039 --> 00:10:23,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, And this is the thing, are you are we 197 00:10:23,879 --> 00:10:27,559 seeing a little bit of lack of effort from players 198 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:33,240 around the country because they are getting paid and that's 199 00:10:33,279 --> 00:10:35,559 all they really set out to do is get paid 200 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:39,440 rather than win. They're getting paid, then they may they 201 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:41,720 like winning, but they don't hate losing. Are we seeing 202 00:10:41,759 --> 00:10:45,360 a little bit of that? Uh uh? That that that 203 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:49,360 that I don't know, that element of the game showcasing 204 00:10:49,399 --> 00:10:51,679 itself even at a at b YU right. 205 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:53,799 Speaker 3: Now, potentially. 206 00:10:53,879 --> 00:10:55,519 Speaker 4: I mean it's it's hard to say. I think that's 207 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:58,519 more of a case by case basis with some of 208 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:02,399 these athletes. But I think that there absolutely are players 209 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:05,759 out there who couldn't have ever dreamt of making a 210 00:11:05,759 --> 00:11:10,279 million dollars in college or or whatever. And for those individuals, yeah, 211 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:12,080 I mean we see it all the time. Even in 212 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:14,639 the NBA. You see a guy get his first major 213 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:17,720 contract or whatever, and all of a sudden he disappears 214 00:11:17,759 --> 00:11:20,240 into the you know, into the abyss, and you never 215 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:22,799 see him perform at the same level that he did 216 00:11:22,799 --> 00:11:26,000 when he was like working towards that contract. And for 217 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:28,879 some of these athletes, they know, like you know, they 218 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:31,840 might not project to the next level or whatever, and 219 00:11:31,919 --> 00:11:34,799 so they're kind of just like enjoying their times, you know. 220 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:38,360 But like I said, you can't make a blanket statement 221 00:11:38,399 --> 00:11:39,919 across all players. 222 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:40,799 Speaker 3: I think that might be. 223 00:11:40,799 --> 00:11:43,399 Speaker 4: True for some if it's I don't know if it's 224 00:11:43,399 --> 00:11:46,000 true for some of the individuals on our team. But 225 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:49,440 I mean, one thing's for sure is we're obviously struggling, 226 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:51,080 no doubt about it. 227 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:53,840 Speaker 2: Lane, tell us a little bit about you know, maybe 228 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:55,840 we got to send this be with your basketball team 229 00:11:55,879 --> 00:11:58,000 into game day, men's health, maybe they got low te 230 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:01,039 maybe that's know I'm kidding. 231 00:12:03,399 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, we don't. 232 00:12:04,039 --> 00:12:05,720 Speaker 4: We don't mess with any of that stuff. We let 233 00:12:05,799 --> 00:12:08,200 the athletes they work with their traders and all that 234 00:12:08,279 --> 00:12:08,960 kind of stuff. 235 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:11,440 Speaker 3: But we do we do want to see guys, right. 236 00:12:12,879 --> 00:12:20,200 Speaker 4: We we we at a certain age thirty thirty five forty, 237 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:24,200 guys start getting older, right, and we have a lot 238 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:28,879 of services to help them, whether that's look better, perform better. 239 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 3: Feel better. 240 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 4: And so if you're if you're thinking to yourself, hey, 241 00:12:34,159 --> 00:12:37,120 that sounds a lot like me. I after lunch, I 242 00:12:37,279 --> 00:12:39,919 take a nap every day, or I'm just not feeling 243 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:42,559 the recovery after the workouts like I once did. 244 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 3: Come in. 245 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:46,679 Speaker 4: There's lots and lots of different services that we provide 246 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:49,519 that help you be your the best version of yourself 247 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:53,799 or feel younger again. And it typically it starts with 248 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:59,559 just a routine blood test. So come in, get that free, 249 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:02,480 a lab work done, see where you're at, talk to 250 00:13:02,519 --> 00:13:04,639 us about your goals, and we'll figure out a game 251 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:05,879 plan for you. 252 00:13:05,919 --> 00:13:09,279 Speaker 2: Give them a call, set up appointment. You get VIP products, 253 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:13,039 VP service, VP discounts. Whenever you mentioned myself or ESPN 254 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:16,679 the Fan, my guy Lane Alo, thanks so much, Lane, 255 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:18,240 appreciate you hopping off for a little world to b 256 00:13:18,399 --> 00:13:19,360 YU Sports. 257 00:13:19,919 --> 00:13:20,879 Speaker 4: I thanks done, appreciate it. 258 00:13:20,919 --> 00:13:23,799 Speaker 2: Man is always a pleasure, always a blessing talking about 259 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:25,840 with Lane Alo. Go in there, get back into the game, 260 00:13:25,919 --> 00:13:29,039 ladies and gentlemen. Any thoughts Cameron Jensen about kind of 261 00:13:29,039 --> 00:13:32,240 the state of college athletics. We thought that the house 262 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:34,679 settlement would would would put us in a good position 263 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:37,720 payroll keeps going up. You know, we thought that would 264 00:13:37,759 --> 00:13:41,039 be a cap It is an arms race, There's no 265 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:43,639 doubt about it. And then furthermore, we when you see 266 00:13:43,639 --> 00:13:46,720 maybe lack of effort as a fan, as an investor 267 00:13:46,759 --> 00:13:50,240 of the program, maybe you're investing in nil, you're kind 268 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:53,360 of supporting an aiding in that that payroll. That may 269 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:57,039 get you to retract those funds and you may look 270 00:13:57,080 --> 00:14:00,720 for other possible tax deductions. L that's whey, rather than 271 00:14:00,759 --> 00:14:03,919 allocating it two guys that don't seem grateful for the 272 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:06,360 filthy luker that you bestowed on them. 273 00:14:06,399 --> 00:14:07,200 Speaker 6: No, it's already happened. 274 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 5: I remember Troy Aikman would donate to UCLA and he said, 275 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:13,120 I donated the guy transfer, you know, and he said, 276 00:14:13,159 --> 00:14:15,399 I'm not doing that anymore now we don't have a 277 00:14:15,399 --> 00:14:18,600 transfer problem. But I think that does you know how 278 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:20,759 the team performs. And I thought he made a great 279 00:14:20,799 --> 00:14:22,559 I'm gonna kind of do a tangent. Bind made a 280 00:14:22,559 --> 00:14:25,480 great point on who is the guy holding him accountable. 281 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:26,639 Speaker 6: On the team. I believe that was Richie. 282 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:30,519 Speaker 5: I think k Young's tried to get aj and Right 283 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:33,080 to take that role, but that's just not kind of 284 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:35,159 who they are at this point, and so I think 285 00:14:35,159 --> 00:14:37,399 there's I thought that was a great point he made. 286 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:39,320 But then going in with this money, Ben, Yeah, I 287 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:42,679 mean that's just human nature. You're getting paid and it 288 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:44,759 doesn't matter if you win or lose. That's you know, 289 00:14:44,879 --> 00:14:46,879 that's a motivation. Obviously you want to win, but you 290 00:14:46,919 --> 00:14:50,080 made a great hate to lose. There's a big difference 291 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:52,039 to that, and so I think it does create a 292 00:14:52,039 --> 00:14:54,000 little bit of complacency with it. 293 00:14:54,799 --> 00:14:56,799 Speaker 6: At the same time, though you're still a competitor. It 294 00:14:56,799 --> 00:14:57,399 doesn't matter. 295 00:14:57,639 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 5: You know, the greats are competitive no matter or how 296 00:15:00,399 --> 00:15:02,679 much is going in their wallets or not. And so 297 00:15:03,039 --> 00:15:05,840 there is that passion in that that you want to see. 298 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:08,879 But it is an interesting dynamic. I can't even imagine 299 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:11,600 Van playing and getting the checks these players are as 300 00:15:11,639 --> 00:15:14,480 wild going back to our years, what that would have 301 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:16,679 been like for us and how would would that have 302 00:15:16,759 --> 00:15:19,600 affected in certain ways because it wasn't there a scholarship. 303 00:15:19,679 --> 00:15:23,360 Checks were fairly enough to get us get us through 304 00:15:23,399 --> 00:15:24,279 the first of the week of the. 305 00:15:24,879 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 2: We were living big with our nine hundred dollars checks. 306 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:31,480 Speaker 5: You know that included rent and food every We weren't 307 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:33,360 getting all the free meals. We couldn't get free meals. 308 00:15:33,399 --> 00:15:36,039 Speaker 2: No free meals, Yeah no, And I think the like 309 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:40,960 compliance would come in everybody, no meal, don't take anything 310 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:43,080 from fans or donors or routes. 311 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:44,919 Speaker 6: We couldn't even work football camps. 312 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, you couldn't. You couldn't work Yeah, these like extracurricular 313 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:50,080 jobs and stuff like that. 314 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 6: So it's a different world. 315 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 5: But I think the greats compete and you don't want 316 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:55,120 to do it, but yeah, it's it's it's a unique 317 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:57,159 that I'm still wrapping my head around looking at what 318 00:15:57,159 --> 00:15:59,799 these kids are making and how it how that implements everything. 319 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:02,399 Speaker 2: Did you agree though the pendulum did need to swing it? Did? 320 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:03,039 I wish? 321 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:03,559 Speaker 6: I'm not. 322 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 5: I'm like I it did need to and I'm glad 323 00:16:06,039 --> 00:16:08,120 and I'm not one of those Oh I wish. It's 324 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:09,720 just hard for me to understand as a player what 325 00:16:09,759 --> 00:16:11,759 that would have been like at that point in our career. 326 00:16:11,879 --> 00:16:13,960 So yeah, I think I'm glad it did. I'm so 327 00:16:14,039 --> 00:16:15,720 happy because I know what it does to your body 328 00:16:15,759 --> 00:16:17,759 and what the players are doing and the value that 329 00:16:17,799 --> 00:16:20,440 they're creating in a lot of ways for the university, 330 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:22,279 and then that value needs to be shared with those 331 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:25,840 that are creating it. So I'm a big advocate for it, 332 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:28,159 but it's still hard for me to comment on it 333 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:29,039 like that. 334 00:16:29,039 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 6: What would that have done to change? 335 00:16:30,399 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 5: You know? 336 00:16:30,879 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 6: So? 337 00:16:31,679 --> 00:16:33,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean what would you have done with the money? 338 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:34,679 Speaker 6: Yeah? 339 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 2: What do you think you would have done with the money? 340 00:16:36,559 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 6: I don't know, you don't know. I again, yeah, I'm 341 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:41,519 a saver, you know that bad. 342 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 5: I would have bought a probably car Like these guys 343 00:16:43,519 --> 00:16:46,600 go down to practice, I see a lot of my raptor. 344 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:48,519 There's a lot of raptors out there. I'm like, man, 345 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:51,519 it's it's a look. This wasn't the car lot when 346 00:16:51,519 --> 00:16:53,519 we were playing. I'm like, this is an NFL. 347 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:57,320 Speaker 2: A lot of scooters, a lot of like some bikes, 348 00:16:57,519 --> 00:17:01,519 some bikes, uh, some used four cylinders. 349 00:17:01,679 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm seeing all these raptors that. 350 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:07,400 Speaker 2: Some beaters, some beat trucks. Everyone could hop into the 351 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:09,680 back of the beat like the beat trucks, like those 352 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:13,799 like toyotas that don't have they have they got the bed, 353 00:17:13,839 --> 00:17:15,359 but they don't have like the cab. 354 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:17,599 Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, I mean they're making more than a 355 00:17:17,599 --> 00:17:20,480 lot of the coaches are. And it's yeah, and I 356 00:17:20,559 --> 00:17:23,200 know they probably have resources around Hey, you know, this 357 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:25,599 might not be what you get paid every year after 358 00:17:25,799 --> 00:17:26,920 you get done playing, but. 359 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:29,319 Speaker 6: Let's be smart with it. Yeah, no doubt, but it's 360 00:17:29,319 --> 00:17:29,759 a great thing. 361 00:17:29,799 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 3: Then. 362 00:17:30,039 --> 00:17:31,519 Speaker 5: I think it's a great thing, and I think it 363 00:17:31,599 --> 00:17:33,640 needed to is bound to. I wish it would have 364 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:35,920 happened sooner. Yeah, you know, around around two thousand and 365 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:37,240 one two. I thought it would have been a great 366 00:17:37,279 --> 00:17:38,359 year for that to be implemented. 367 00:17:39,039 --> 00:17:42,160 Speaker 2: It would have been great, Like yeah, I mean, I 368 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:46,359 mean I if I looked at you know, hours allocated. 369 00:17:46,519 --> 00:17:50,000 I looked at it at one point and I said, like, 370 00:17:50,079 --> 00:17:53,720 what is the scholarship in in monetary value? 371 00:17:53,759 --> 00:17:55,680 Speaker 6: I remember, forget, but you've done that. 372 00:17:55,799 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, So I mean at the time tuition and granted 373 00:17:58,039 --> 00:18:00,839 b YUS tuition is cheap, but I think it was 374 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:03,119 around I want to say it was around like twenty 375 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:07,240 five hundred per semester or something like that, super duper cheap. 376 00:18:07,519 --> 00:18:12,000 But let's like for the the the education you get. 377 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:14,839 Like I'll do another little mathematical equation on this too, 378 00:18:14,839 --> 00:18:20,599 but anyway, twenty five hundred bucks you know, per semester, 379 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:25,720 which is great. We did have like food during fall camp, right, 380 00:18:25,839 --> 00:18:26,240 we had. 381 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:30,440 Speaker 5: Donuts in the morning before fall Campay, there was bagels. 382 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:34,720 Speaker 2: There's apples and oranges and bananas. You just chose the donuts. No, 383 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:37,240 I remember there being donuts. I don't remember seeing all that. 384 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:41,359 That might have been the year after it was all 385 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:44,000 cars on like chocolate milk, chocolate milk and donuts. 386 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:45,880 Speaker 5: No, but anyway, I know we did have some meals 387 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:48,440 and after practice we had after food and so then 388 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:50,319 and then if you made the travel squad you'd get 389 00:18:50,319 --> 00:18:50,839 fed at. 390 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:52,880 Speaker 6: Those great by the way we did. 391 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was good stuff. But anyways, like I I 392 00:18:55,039 --> 00:18:57,119 looked at it with like, you know, your strength conditioning 393 00:18:57,240 --> 00:19:02,599 and lifting and cardio stuff. You're probably making at BYU 394 00:19:02,839 --> 00:19:04,759 about thirteen to fourteen dollars an hour at the time, 395 00:19:05,079 --> 00:19:08,039 which everyone that's like a student that's working is like, well, 396 00:19:08,039 --> 00:19:10,119 that's a great job. In two thousand and five, that's 397 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:13,079 a great to thirteen fourteen dollars an hour, that's really good. 398 00:19:13,519 --> 00:19:16,240 You know, it's really good. Now other schools, like if 399 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:18,480 you had to like three x that with the education 400 00:19:18,519 --> 00:19:21,720 against then yeah, you're looking at you're looking at you know, 401 00:19:21,839 --> 00:19:26,119 sixty thousand dollars you know, value seventy thousand dollars value 402 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:29,079 for the hours allocated because it was a full time job. 403 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:31,480 I mean you got to realize too, like all your tasks, 404 00:19:31,759 --> 00:19:34,720 your tasks, You're like, you go to football practice, you 405 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:40,839 get in thirty car accidents, literally thirty car accidents, you know, 406 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:44,000 especially if you're a linebacker, running back or an offensive 407 00:19:44,079 --> 00:19:46,880 defensive line and then you'd have to go ahead and 408 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:48,160 compete in the classroom. 409 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:51,720 Speaker 6: And by us, no, no joke, man. 410 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:55,640 Speaker 2: It was you were on such a like like a 411 00:19:55,799 --> 00:19:58,440 mis leveled playing field, you know what I mean, just 412 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:02,400 weren't there so anyway, Uh that was the the cash equivalents, 413 00:20:02,519 --> 00:20:04,200 so you would have been at like that twenty twenty 414 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:05,079 five hour you. 415 00:20:05,039 --> 00:20:06,720 Speaker 6: Know, I'm not complaining. We got a SCHOLARGI. 416 00:20:06,759 --> 00:20:09,079 Speaker 2: I guess it was a blast to play your education 417 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:11,119 that was not the same as the individuals that you 418 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:14,440 were in class with. It was not no because it no, 419 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:17,680 it wasn't. It was not the same. It was not 420 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:19,160 the same. It was like, well, no, you went to class. 421 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:21,839 I was like, yeah, yeah, but I was not spending 422 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:25,480 three hours in the library and in the lab because 423 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:28,599 I was watching film because the back of my name 424 00:20:28,839 --> 00:20:30,559 said Critle on it, and I was gonna go after 425 00:20:30,599 --> 00:20:33,519 play in front of a million people, and if I sucked, 426 00:20:33,519 --> 00:20:35,480 everyone's gonna remember that I suck, and they were gonna 427 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:37,319 remember that I got an A plus on this test 428 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:38,880 rather than a B minus. 429 00:20:39,079 --> 00:20:40,759 Speaker 6: You did just enough to kind of get by during 430 00:20:40,799 --> 00:20:42,720 those during the season, you. 431 00:20:42,759 --> 00:20:44,559 Speaker 2: Had to have some come to Jesus talks with your 432 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:47,119 your your teacher's like, look, there's a lot of pressure 433 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:52,240 on me this week. Anyway, we'll go to break. Guys, 434 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:54,000 don't go anywhere. That segment was brought to you by 435 00:20:54,039 --> 00:20:55,680 its Health. Get back into the game at game big 436 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:59,640 Man's Health dot Com today and mention myself. Ben Crittle 437 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:01,839 ores in the Fan four discounts. This is Cougar Sports 438 00:21:01,839 --> 00:21:03,799 one to three nine, ninety point three, ESPN the Fan. 439 00:21:06,279 --> 00:21:08,559 Speaker 1: He's a one oh three nine at ninety eight three 440 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:10,480 ESPN SportsCenter. 441 00:21:10,759 --> 00:21:11,359 Speaker 2: Off Games. 442 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:14,680 Speaker 7: The Cardiac cous just keep coming back. Down eleven points 443 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:16,720 early on in the third quarter yesterday, it looked like 444 00:21:16,759 --> 00:21:19,599 the BYU women's basketball team's hopes were shot, but ultimately 445 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:21,799 in the second half, they outscored the Utes forty three 446 00:21:21,839 --> 00:21:24,079 to sixteen to advance to the quarterfinals of the Big 447 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:26,880 Twelve Tournament against number one seed TCU. A win puts 448 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:29,480 them in the NCAA tournament, and with a close loss, 449 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:31,400 they'll have to wait and see what happens. The game 450 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:33,880 tipped off today at twelve thirty. The baseball team had 451 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:36,119 their home opener yesterday. It was down eight to one 452 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:38,480 heading in the bottom of the fifth when Byu tallied 453 00:21:38,559 --> 00:21:40,440 nine runs in the bottom of the frame. Later in 454 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:42,759 the game, it was close, but Ashton Johnson struggled on 455 00:21:42,759 --> 00:21:44,519 the mound and gave up the Cougar lead as cow 456 00:21:44,559 --> 00:21:47,160 Baptist came away with the win. Game two is today 457 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:49,480 at three in the series finale is tomorrow at one. 458 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:51,160 Speaker 2: Sticking with the Diamond. 459 00:21:50,839 --> 00:21:53,359 Speaker 7: The softball team kicked off Big Twelve play yesterday and 460 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:55,279 was up heading into the middle of the first against 461 00:21:55,319 --> 00:21:58,119 number thirteen ranked Arizona in Tucson. That all change, though, 462 00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:00,480 when the Wildcats scored eleven and there half the inning. 463 00:22:00,559 --> 00:22:02,839 Game two starts today at three, with Game three at 464 00:22:02,839 --> 00:22:04,920 noon tomorrow on the track. Jane Head and Grin and 465 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:07,480 Tavar Kitchen were named Men's and women's Outstanding Freshman of 466 00:22:07,519 --> 00:22:09,359 the Year in the Big Twelve for their performances this 467 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:12,440 indoor season. Indoor Nationals begin next week. The rest of 468 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:15,079 This weekend features a slew of events, including men's tennis 469 00:22:15,079 --> 00:22:18,079 at Boise State, women's tennis at Utah Gymnastics, and at 470 00:22:18,079 --> 00:22:20,799 try meet against Utah and West Virginia on Saturday, Women's 471 00:22:20,839 --> 00:22:23,680 volleyball and exhibition matches against you l V and Utah Tech. 472 00:22:23,839 --> 00:22:27,319 Number six, men's volleyball against UC Mercy today and Jessup tomorrow, 473 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:30,759 and the Capitol Off Senior I for YU men's basketball against. 474 00:22:30,519 --> 00:22:31,599 Speaker 1: Number ten Texas Tech. 475 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:34,920 Speaker 7: It will be highlighting Kaiva Cada and Oboskovich, Jared McGregor 476 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:37,960 and Richie Saunders. 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So let's start off with a 515 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:26,359 little recruiting, right, So, how would you evaluate? You know, 516 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:28,720 we got a lot of new facers, the transferportal players, 517 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:31,119 and then the true freshmen that are coming in return 518 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:34,920 missionaries as well. From what you've seen thus far from 519 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:39,480 the newcomers, the new faces, the transferportal freshmen, the transport players, 520 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:42,279 the freshmen and then the return missionaries, what has stood 521 00:24:42,279 --> 00:24:43,759 out to you amongst that group? 522 00:24:46,079 --> 00:24:49,160 Speaker 4: I think first and foremost, you can go down the 523 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:52,440 list of transfers and probably expect most of those guys 524 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:56,240 to contribute right away. You know, we'll see how the 525 00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:58,960 the depth chart along the offensive line irons itself out, 526 00:24:59,079 --> 00:25:02,680 but I expect at least a few of those guys 527 00:25:02,759 --> 00:25:05,960 up front to be starters. I know they brought in three, 528 00:25:06,079 --> 00:25:08,079 but I would expect at least one or two of 529 00:25:08,079 --> 00:25:12,279 those guys to be starters. And then beyond that, you've 530 00:25:12,279 --> 00:25:16,960 also got a ton of brand new true freshmen that 531 00:25:17,039 --> 00:25:20,240 are already enrolled and participating in spring camp. I think 532 00:25:20,279 --> 00:25:25,680 that's become a little different from BYU classes in the past, 533 00:25:25,799 --> 00:25:29,200 perhaps like four or five years ago, I would say probably, 534 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:32,519 you know, seventy to ninety percent of those signees would 535 00:25:32,839 --> 00:25:36,160 leave for two years and serve missions. But now we've 536 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:38,240 seen it the last couple of years where it's about 537 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:40,799 a fifty to fifty split, and that's the case this year. 538 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:44,880 So about half of BYU's record class is enrolled, and 539 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:47,319 of the signees that will play right away, all but 540 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:51,480 one Antonio Johnson, are enrolled and participating in spring camp. 541 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 3: So I look at. 542 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:56,359 Speaker 4: Whenever you're trying to see where a true freshman can 543 00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:59,039 find playing time, it's a matter of not only talent, 544 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:02,839 but opportunity as well. Right, So if Jake Resloff was 545 00:26:02,839 --> 00:26:06,240 on the roster last year, then Bear Bachmeier doesn't have 546 00:26:06,319 --> 00:26:10,880 his breakout freshman campaign, assuming you know, Ja stays healthy. 547 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:15,079 So as far as opportunity goes, I think the opportunity 548 00:26:15,079 --> 00:26:18,039 at wide receiver is wide open given the departures of 549 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:21,839 Chase Roberts and Parker Kingston, and then pair that alongside 550 00:26:22,079 --> 00:26:24,279 some of the really talented players that you brought into 551 00:26:24,319 --> 00:26:29,680 the room, namely Jared Poula, Legend Glaskar, Terrence Serion, guys 552 00:26:29,759 --> 00:26:34,079 like that. So historically, really talented wide receivers have been 553 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:36,680 able to find their way to the field early in 554 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:39,480 their BYU careers. And so I'm keeping an eye on 555 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:40,480 that room in particular. 556 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:43,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean a Rod is very hesitant to talk 557 00:26:43,799 --> 00:26:48,599 about the newcomers because the transfer portal, right, and the 558 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:54,359 tampering tampergate in provo. When you heard a Rod state 559 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:58,559 that earlier this week, he doesn't want to. He's reluctant to, 560 00:26:59,319 --> 00:27:01,920 you know, to to highlight. Let's actually tune into it. 561 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:06,079 Let's listen. What did he exactly say about potential tampering 562 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:08,440 of his young rising stars. 563 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:10,680 Speaker 8: Well, I mean, going tracts twice. 564 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:12,599 Speaker 2: But there's a lot of good players. 565 00:27:12,319 --> 00:27:17,720 Speaker 8: In that room, and those guys will step up. I'm 566 00:27:17,799 --> 00:27:21,599 very confident about that. And you know, Casper did some 567 00:27:21,599 --> 00:27:24,400 good things today, and we've got some some young players 568 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:27,240 that are doing some good things. I'm a little reluctant 569 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:29,200 to comment about young guys though, because then people will 570 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:32,960 start tampering with them before before the next portal windows. 571 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:35,079 So I'm just gonna not I'm not gonna say nice 572 00:27:35,079 --> 00:27:36,240 things about the young guys anymore. 573 00:27:38,519 --> 00:27:41,519 Speaker 2: He goes on like I think it was Sean Walker 574 00:27:41,599 --> 00:27:43,920 said well, you know there isn't a spring portal. When 575 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:45,480 he's like, yeah, that's right. You know, but when you 576 00:27:45,559 --> 00:27:47,880 heard that, Casey, what was your reaction? What did you ponder? 577 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:49,160 What did you think about? 578 00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:54,359 Speaker 4: Well, the transfer portal has taken another thing away apparently. 579 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:57,240 I guess that's commentary from a Rod. To a Rod's credit, 580 00:27:57,319 --> 00:28:00,200 I think historically he has done a pretty good job 581 00:28:00,759 --> 00:28:04,559 of singling out players and giving some real information from 582 00:28:04,839 --> 00:28:08,240 his interviews. It's not just coach speak. So I think 583 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:10,400 if you look back at his track record, you know, 584 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:12,759 he spoke very highly of l. J. Martin as a 585 00:28:12,759 --> 00:28:16,519 true freshman. He spoke very highly a Bear. He has 586 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:20,680 given some some real tidbits throughout the years. So if 587 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:23,119 that's another thing that the transfer portal has taken away. 588 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:25,880 Then that's a shame, but it's a real threat. You know. 589 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:29,519 I don't know how much teams are are tampering because 590 00:28:29,559 --> 00:28:33,720 of media quotes. I don't know that, but tampering is 591 00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:36,799 a real thing, and especially when you have a really 592 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:40,440 talented class, you'd like to keep them around and keep 593 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:44,279 them in the program. So I understand the sentiment. But 594 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:47,400 there is no spring transfer portal windows, so it's going 595 00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:49,559 to be a while before teams can start tampering. 596 00:28:50,839 --> 00:28:52,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's I thought it was gonna say. I know 597 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,200 it was a little chung a tongue in cheek, but 598 00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:58,279 I thought it was funny another the last year. I mean, look, 599 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:02,279 the young bucks are very, very talented, as you mentioned, 600 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:05,759 and these new faces that are kind of on the rise. 601 00:29:05,799 --> 00:29:09,000 We've delved into it a little bit today and it's 602 00:29:09,039 --> 00:29:11,880 exciting times to be a Cougar. From a talent level standpoint, 603 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:16,039 how would you compare the talent the depth present day 604 00:29:16,079 --> 00:29:20,119 on this Cougar football roster to when Kolanie started back 605 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:23,559 in twenty sixteen or even and let's say twenty twenty 606 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:26,720 or twenty twenty one, Like you'd had some good NFL 607 00:29:26,759 --> 00:29:30,519 guys there draft picks. I mean, there's a reason why 608 00:29:30,519 --> 00:29:33,920 you you won eleven and ten games, respectively. How does 609 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:38,799 the roster maybe compare to that initial era that and 610 00:29:38,839 --> 00:29:41,319 then that midway point for the Klaniera. 611 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:45,000 Speaker 4: Well, certainly compared to the start of the Kilanie era. 612 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:49,640 It's it's elevated far above that, you know it. There 613 00:29:49,759 --> 00:29:52,920 was a core of guys that stayed around for Kilanie's 614 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:55,799 first year and that led to the twenty sixteen season. 615 00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:58,799 But once the seniors graduated, you know, we saw what 616 00:29:59,079 --> 00:30:02,079 was the twenty seven team season. I mean you could 617 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:04,880 say there were maybe some cultural problems on that team 618 00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:06,519 and things like that, but at the end of the day, 619 00:30:06,559 --> 00:30:09,839 there was just a talent deficiency and that led to, 620 00:30:10,079 --> 00:30:12,359 you know, one of the worst seasons of the last 621 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:17,319 fifty years. So byus in a much better spot, I think, 622 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:23,559 especially depth wise. This is probably every year that BYU 623 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:26,319 continues to recruit better and better, the depth will get 624 00:30:26,599 --> 00:30:29,599 better and better. You know, you will have four star 625 00:30:29,839 --> 00:30:32,480 recruits or highly coveted three star guys that had a 626 00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:35,799 bunch of offers that are second, three string, third string, 627 00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:39,000 or even four string, and that probably wasn't the case 628 00:30:39,079 --> 00:30:41,440 even just a few years ago. As you mentioned in 629 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:44,359 twenty twenty and twenty twenty one, those teams had some 630 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:47,480 real high end talent guys that are still in the 631 00:30:47,559 --> 00:30:51,160 NFL today, But once you got behind that first layer 632 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:54,599 of defense, it wasn't nearly as deep as this roster 633 00:30:54,759 --> 00:30:57,599 is today. I think there was a quote from Mario 634 00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:01,759 Christobal at Oregon when he left for Miami about, you know, 635 00:31:01,799 --> 00:31:05,000 his decision to leave Eugene and return home to Miami, 636 00:31:05,039 --> 00:31:08,680 and he said, I feel okay about leaving Oregon because 637 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:11,759 that program is in a good spot. The most talented 638 00:31:11,799 --> 00:31:14,680 players are on the roster are young guys, and I 639 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:17,960 think looking at this roster today, you can say something 640 00:31:18,039 --> 00:31:22,559 similar about BYU's roster. You know, it's not black and 641 00:31:22,559 --> 00:31:26,400 white statement, but for the most part, a lot of 642 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:30,720 BYU's most talented guys are still really young and just 643 00:31:30,799 --> 00:31:34,279 matriculating into the program. If you pair that alongside some 644 00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:36,799 of the you know, proven stars that are gonna have 645 00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:40,200 you know, NFL futures like LJ. Martin and you know 646 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:42,759 guys like k dou Luave, I think that's what's really 647 00:31:42,799 --> 00:31:46,920 exciting is the momentum continues to build and they can 648 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:50,160 take maybe even another incremental step this year, which will 649 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:51,880 be hard to do. They did go eleven to one, 650 00:31:52,559 --> 00:31:55,000 but there's the potential to do that and then take 651 00:31:55,079 --> 00:31:57,440 some of this young talent in the program and just 652 00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:59,839 to con continue building on it in twenty seven. 653 00:32:00,119 --> 00:32:04,039 Speaker 2: Beyond Casey Lund Quiz BYU Sports illustrated here on your 654 00:32:04,119 --> 00:32:08,559 Utah ESPN Radio Network, Little Crew, the Cougar Slash College 655 00:32:08,599 --> 00:32:10,680 Football segment brought to you by our good friends at 656 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:15,000 Dental Pros of Utah Dentalprosivutah dot com. What other storylines 657 00:32:15,039 --> 00:32:19,039 have you been maybe addressing on your platform and reading 658 00:32:19,079 --> 00:32:21,400 into during camp Kolani. 659 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,559 Speaker 4: Yeah, Unfortunately, as you know, we haven't had too many 660 00:32:25,599 --> 00:32:28,759 opportunities to see things in person. 661 00:32:30,279 --> 00:32:31,960 Speaker 3: But with that being. 662 00:32:31,799 --> 00:32:35,319 Speaker 4: Said, I think just the progression of Bear Bachmeyer has 663 00:32:35,359 --> 00:32:40,039 been just probably second to the wide receiver rotation, but 664 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:42,599 that's right up there at the top. Bear played so 665 00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:46,039 well as a true freshman, but if you compare where 666 00:32:46,039 --> 00:32:48,960 he was against Georgia Tech to where he started against 667 00:32:49,559 --> 00:32:53,000 Portland State or even that Stanford game where he was 668 00:32:53,079 --> 00:32:57,359 just so clearly, you know, doing things that were limited 669 00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:00,799 within BYU's offense, it was very measured what Aaron Rodgers 670 00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:03,559 was giving him. Now that he has a full year 671 00:33:04,079 --> 00:33:07,960 of starting experience and a full offseason, he looks, you know, 672 00:33:08,039 --> 00:33:10,240 a little slimmer. To me, I think he's changed his 673 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:13,759 body a little bit. And I'm really interested to see 674 00:33:13,799 --> 00:33:17,039 the progression of Bear Bachmeyer because last year in those 675 00:33:17,079 --> 00:33:21,839 games against Texas Tech, the offense was the deficiency right, 676 00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:24,519 And I think if bear Bachmeyer is able to make 677 00:33:24,559 --> 00:33:30,200 some key improvements in certain areas, I think BA has 678 00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:34,240 a really really good chance to repeat last year's success, 679 00:33:34,279 --> 00:33:35,119 if not built on it. 680 00:33:36,759 --> 00:33:41,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, many like the off season conversation for regarding Bear. 681 00:33:41,559 --> 00:33:45,039 It's centered around two touch subjects in my opinion, the 682 00:33:45,039 --> 00:33:48,119 body mass, you know, the the you know they want 683 00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:49,839 him to maybe trim up. Some people want him to 684 00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:54,839 trim up and or lean out. Rather you can still 685 00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:59,200 stay like in that two thirty five range whatever. He's 686 00:33:59,279 --> 00:34:02,000 maybe playing it too, but it's got to be muscle mass, 687 00:34:02,039 --> 00:34:04,640 not the atiposts. I will say, like, when you're running 688 00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:06,119 as much as he is, you need a little bit 689 00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:08,880 of protection and sometimes a little bit ada post tissue 690 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:10,960 around them joints. It does aid and support in that 691 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:14,280 and also a little weight game. You know, he sometimes 692 00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:16,400 has throwers. You can gain a little bit of power, 693 00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:20,360 but you always want muscle more than fat obviously. And 694 00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:22,159 then the other one was like just arm strength, right, 695 00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:26,719 just arm strength in general, they twenty see elevated arm 696 00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:28,880 strength and where's that gonna come from? And I think 697 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:32,280 they coincide with each other. So how much improvement do 698 00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:35,360 you think you're gonna see in those two arenas from 699 00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:37,360 Bear in twenty twenty six. 700 00:34:39,559 --> 00:34:43,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, on the first one, I think we've seen progress already. 701 00:34:44,079 --> 00:34:47,840 I mentioned it earlier. Bear's looking different to me, and 702 00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:52,199 he's only been in BYU's program right now for you know, 703 00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:56,760 two months. Really the gains are mostly made between Springball 704 00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:59,119 and Fault Camp because that is, you know, four or 705 00:34:59,159 --> 00:35:02,159 five month windows as opposed to a two month window. 706 00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:06,119 So I think he's well on track there. As far 707 00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:11,159 as arm strength, man, it's hard to know because he's 708 00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:14,840 he came in as a really big kid. Like you said, 709 00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:18,400 he might be slimming down instead of adding weight. So 710 00:35:18,559 --> 00:35:22,679 I am interested to see where his arm goes. Just 711 00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:25,119 as far as arm strength, like I said, we haven't 712 00:35:25,159 --> 00:35:28,280 had many chances to see them in person yet, so 713 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:32,119 I think that's something that we'll learn throughout camp, but 714 00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:35,960 certainly that's an area where he could grow. And I 715 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:40,400 think he excelled with some of those intermediate throws last year, 716 00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:44,400 but there's definitely room for growth as far as those 717 00:35:44,519 --> 00:35:48,000 throws beyond you know, twenty twenty five yards. Just a 718 00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:51,079 little more arm strength and a little more accuracy. And 719 00:35:51,119 --> 00:35:53,400 if he can do that and you pair it up 720 00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:55,239 with you know, his ability to take care of the 721 00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:58,760 football make those intermediate throws, then you could have a 722 00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:01,559 complete quarterback alongside one of the best running backs in 723 00:36:01,559 --> 00:36:02,000 the country. 724 00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:05,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, bearr is listed right down the roster six two 725 00:36:06,079 --> 00:36:10,079 two thirty and so that's where he currently sits per 726 00:36:10,119 --> 00:36:12,519 the roster. That's not always accurate, but that's where he 727 00:36:12,559 --> 00:36:14,360 currently sits. So he may have trimmed up a little bit. 728 00:36:14,639 --> 00:36:16,320 Let's get into a recruiting news and note, I know 729 00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:18,920 there's like not a whole lot going on on the 730 00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:21,639 recruiting front with new acquisitions, but there was a PWO 731 00:36:22,199 --> 00:36:26,920 that committed two way athlete, James Clifford committed as a PWO. 732 00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:32,119 Tell us a little bit about James Clifford and his position, 733 00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:35,400 his impact. What do you got for us on that front? 734 00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:40,559 Speaker 4: Yeah, James Clifford is interesting because, as you know, the 735 00:36:40,639 --> 00:36:43,920 walk on spots have kind of dried up in college football. 736 00:36:44,599 --> 00:36:48,599 Where there used to be forty opportunities per roster, now 737 00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:51,800 depending on the school, it could be you know, anywhere 738 00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:52,719 from ten to twenty. 739 00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:54,400 Speaker 3: So whereas we. 740 00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:57,159 Speaker 4: Used to see PWO classes that range from ten to 741 00:36:57,199 --> 00:37:00,440 fifteen guys, now it's you know, two or three. So 742 00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:04,039 the PWO offers that go out today are a little 743 00:37:04,079 --> 00:37:07,800 more significant than they used to be. So he is 744 00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:12,840 a California native. He was a first team All All 745 00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:15,920 Region or All Conference selection on both sides of the football, 746 00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:19,840 so he played tight end in defensive end. It's unclear 747 00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:22,360 to me where he's going to play at BYU. I 748 00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:27,880 think depending on the situation at those positions, he could 749 00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:29,199 probably end up at either one. 750 00:37:30,119 --> 00:37:31,559 Speaker 3: But he is the younger. 751 00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:34,679 Speaker 4: Brother of David Clifford, who was on By's roster in 752 00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:37,320 twenty twenty four and then he left to serve a mission. 753 00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:41,800 If you remember David Clifford, David actually turned down scholarship 754 00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:45,519 offers to walk on at BYU. He had scholarship offers 755 00:37:45,559 --> 00:37:49,440 from Arizona, San Jose State, a handful of Mountain West 756 00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:52,400 schools and he opted to walk on at BYU instead, 757 00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:57,280 So BYU family. He's a dual sport athlete, plays basketball, 758 00:37:58,199 --> 00:38:02,199 kind of an interesting player, foot seven, so huge frame, 759 00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:04,719 a lot you can do with that, and he's had 760 00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:09,360 a lot of success in California. So there is still 761 00:38:09,639 --> 00:38:14,000 a kind of a need to fill out every spot 762 00:38:14,079 --> 00:38:17,000 on the roster. Colony has talked about that since he 763 00:38:17,079 --> 00:38:20,079 got to BYU that an important part of developing depth 764 00:38:20,559 --> 00:38:25,000 is recruiting every spot that's available. So interested to see 765 00:38:25,039 --> 00:38:27,639 where he ends up. But as far as p wo's go, 766 00:38:28,079 --> 00:38:29,960 I think he's up there is one of the more 767 00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:33,039 promising ones. He had opportunities to walk on at Oregon 768 00:38:33,119 --> 00:38:35,599 and USC and pick BYU. 769 00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:40,400 Speaker 2: Love that great breakdown from kcy Lundquish Casey. We invite 770 00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:43,559 everyone to follow you on x and read all your 771 00:38:43,559 --> 00:38:45,559 content at BYUSID best way to support to you what 772 00:38:45,679 --> 00:38:47,159 you do, how you do it though, give it a 773 00:38:47,159 --> 00:38:48,400 little pitch to cougarnation. 774 00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:52,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, you can find our stuff on sid dot com, 775 00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:55,800 slash College, slash BYU. Read all this stuff there and 776 00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:59,480 then as camp you know, rolls on, we'll have some 777 00:38:59,559 --> 00:39:02,639 more content coming out on Twitter and and on on 778 00:39:02,679 --> 00:39:05,440 the website, So any support is greatly appreciated. 779 00:39:06,039 --> 00:39:09,480 Speaker 2: Love it. And one last thing, who's you're projected MVP 780 00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:13,119 of Springball on the defense and m VP of Springball 781 00:39:13,199 --> 00:39:15,440 on the offense right now? I know it's early. I 782 00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:18,239 know it's early, but you're maybe way too early prediction 783 00:39:18,679 --> 00:39:21,239 on those m VP spots. 784 00:39:21,559 --> 00:39:25,000 Speaker 4: Okay, a little bit, a little bit more of a 785 00:39:25,039 --> 00:39:28,159 difficult answer for springball because not everyone's playing. But I 786 00:39:28,199 --> 00:39:33,440 would say on offense, I'll I'll give the the answer. 787 00:39:33,519 --> 00:39:35,639 I'll just say Bear. I think I think we are 788 00:39:35,679 --> 00:39:37,800 going to see a lot of progress from Bear. And 789 00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:40,480 while it's probably going to take some time to get 790 00:39:40,519 --> 00:39:43,400 dialed in with a brand new group of wide receivers, 791 00:39:44,519 --> 00:39:47,199 I think I think Bear is going to show that 792 00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:49,559 he still has a lot of room to grow. And 793 00:39:49,599 --> 00:39:52,960 if there's, if there's potential on Bear Bachmeier, I do 794 00:39:53,039 --> 00:39:55,079 believe he's the kind of kid that's going to find it. 795 00:39:55,159 --> 00:39:58,599 He just works so hard and he stays humble, and 796 00:39:58,639 --> 00:40:02,519 he's he's co So I really like his chances to 797 00:40:02,559 --> 00:40:05,320 progress compared to where he was last year on the 798 00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:10,880 defensive side. Uh Man, I'll say falla taus Otawala, I 799 00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:13,480 think he just takes another step this year. I think 800 00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:19,320 he's an NFL safety and he made so much progress 801 00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:22,880 from his freshman year to his sophomore year and now 802 00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:25,480 is his third year in the program, second year as 803 00:40:25,519 --> 00:40:28,440 a starter. I just think you say, you see fall 804 00:40:28,519 --> 00:40:30,800 of touas Softawalla start to look like a day one 805 00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:31,599 or two draft pick. 806 00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:35,360 Speaker 2: Love it, Casey Lunguish, Ladies and gentlemen, thanks for hopping on, Casey. 807 00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:38,280 We'll catch up again soon. We'll see that at practice 808 00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:40,239 and have a great weekend. 809 00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:42,679 Speaker 4: Hey, thanks, guys, have a good one. 810 00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:45,119 Speaker 2: There you go. That's Casey Lungquish. That segment was brought 811 00:40:45,159 --> 00:40:47,960 to you by Dental Pros of Utah. Dental Prosivieutah dot com. 812 00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:49,519 If you've been told you need to filling a ground 813 00:40:49,519 --> 00:40:51,400 a rook it out, just get a checking opinion. A 814 00:40:51,519 --> 00:40:54,199 dental prose of Utah the best bomb of medic dentistry 815 00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:57,239 in the business. It's minimally invasive dentury. It's going to 816 00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:58,559 save your teeth and your money in the long run. 817 00:40:58,599 --> 00:41:02,239 Any thoughts, any commentary, Cameron Jensen, anything that stood out 818 00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:04,320 to you from our conversation with Casey Lundquish. 819 00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:06,119 Speaker 5: Well, yeah, we talked about it a little bit earlier. 820 00:41:06,199 --> 00:41:08,320 Is just the development of Bear. I think we're all 821 00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:11,519 excited to see that he has the poise, he has 822 00:41:11,559 --> 00:41:13,840 the confidence. We saw things that we don't see from 823 00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:16,880 a true freshman. I'm seeing what does that develop into 824 00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:20,880 year two, because that's not normal. And so his arm strength, 825 00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:23,079 if that improves, if he can make those throws over 826 00:41:23,119 --> 00:41:26,440 twenty five yards, wow, that's a deadly combo. And I 827 00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:28,079 think he should lean up a little bit to make 828 00:41:28,119 --> 00:41:30,400 him a little more mobile. I think towards the end 829 00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:31,800 of the year he saw him get banged up with 830 00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:34,440 the ankle and that really affected the way he likes 831 00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:34,960 to play. 832 00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:36,480 Speaker 6: So I like that. 833 00:41:36,519 --> 00:41:38,679 Speaker 5: And obviously the wide receiver and wide open you got 834 00:41:38,679 --> 00:41:41,000 some young guys filling those gaps. It's exciting to see. 835 00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:43,280 But if that comes together Bear with these new core 836 00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:44,920 wide receivers, I like where we're at. 837 00:41:45,079 --> 00:41:47,920 Speaker 2: He did drag like three uts into the engine at 838 00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:50,440 that size, you know what I mean. So you know, 839 00:41:50,639 --> 00:41:52,639 he we got to give him some credit on that. 840 00:41:52,679 --> 00:41:54,199 You know, we don't want to lean him up too much, 841 00:41:55,079 --> 00:41:56,159 you know, not too much. 842 00:41:56,039 --> 00:41:57,159 Speaker 6: Right, not too much? You want to. 843 00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:02,079 Speaker 5: Way I think for qube getting a little more mobile, 844 00:42:02,199 --> 00:42:03,239 so like to twenty five. 845 00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:04,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that it. 846 00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:06,360 Speaker 6: Could be a little more muscle mass in there. 847 00:42:06,599 --> 00:42:08,920 Speaker 2: Do you think he's Do you think he was two thirty? 848 00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:09,440 Last year? 849 00:42:09,639 --> 00:42:11,360 Speaker 6: It looked like a little bit more than that. 850 00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:13,639 Speaker 2: Man, I thought it was like too forty. 851 00:42:13,679 --> 00:42:16,519 Speaker 5: Thought it was two forty, even pushing over to forty five, 852 00:42:17,119 --> 00:42:18,400 just how we saw him move and. 853 00:42:18,519 --> 00:42:20,480 Speaker 2: It looked like it's a big dude. It looked like 854 00:42:20,519 --> 00:42:22,199 two forty. Yeah, I mean, you know what two forty 855 00:42:22,199 --> 00:42:22,639 looks like. 856 00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:24,960 Speaker 6: I know it. You were like two forty, and I'm like, 857 00:42:25,079 --> 00:42:26,320 that's that's two forty. 858 00:42:26,679 --> 00:42:29,440 Speaker 2: You're like sizing it up. You're like, you're two forty. 859 00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:32,760 Speaker 5: That's a two forty guy. Yo, That's exactly what I did. 860 00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:35,719 That's what I played a man right at forty. 861 00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:38,400 Speaker 2: You're looking at like the calves and legs, the bodies 862 00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:41,360 of me like that's a two forty, two thirty. 863 00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:44,079 Speaker 5: I'm like that, yeah, that's what that's what you want 864 00:42:44,119 --> 00:42:47,280 people to think. But especially after all those meals, man, 865 00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:49,400 you're you know, you. 866 00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:51,480 Speaker 2: Know, there's uh, you know, you get it. You get 867 00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:54,119 injured in games, you know, and get a little dinged 868 00:42:54,199 --> 00:42:57,320 up and you're not doing as much cardio during the week. 869 00:42:57,239 --> 00:43:00,920 Speaker 5: You're eating off, you're and went on. I think he 870 00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:03,039 put on a few extra its every week. He seemed 871 00:43:03,039 --> 00:43:05,360 to be getting just a little bit bigger, bigger. I'm like, Bear, 872 00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:06,840 we gotta slow that down a little bit. Then he 873 00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:10,599 hurt his ankle that but no, you do want to 874 00:43:10,599 --> 00:43:12,360 be big, you know, because he is going to run 875 00:43:12,519 --> 00:43:14,199 to be able to take hits. But I would have 876 00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:15,760 liked to see him a little more mobile. But again, 877 00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:19,079 he had that ankle injury that he had against Texas 878 00:43:19,119 --> 00:43:21,400 text so, but yeah, I like that combo. If he 879 00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:23,400 could lose a little bit, let's still stay big man. 880 00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:25,119 You're bere you're forty seven. 881 00:43:25,519 --> 00:43:26,519 Speaker 2: There's a lean into it.