WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:00.520 M hm. 2 00:00:04.639 --> 00:00:28.199 Weird way m H read I can kill it up? 3 00:00:44.359 --> 00:00:45.359 What n hell? 4 00:00:45.479 --> 00:00:55.640 I welcome back midnight viewers to Yahucha Fest. 5 00:00:55.880 --> 00:00:59.399 Stay with me, HB, Yahucha Fest. I've bad it's practicing. 6 00:00:59.799 --> 00:01:00.799 Yeah, yeah, you did it great? 7 00:01:00.840 --> 00:01:01.159 All right? 8 00:01:01.200 --> 00:01:03.799 Everybody you know it. Yeah, we're talking about the Predator here. 9 00:01:03.799 --> 00:01:05.079 We're talking about the Predator series. 10 00:01:05.120 --> 00:01:05.480 So far? 11 00:01:06.079 --> 00:01:09.640 What have we got? We got Predator done, Predator two done? 12 00:01:09.719 --> 00:01:12.959 What's next in the in the cycle? Predator two came 13 00:01:13.000 --> 00:01:16.239 out in nineteen ninety and then we have to wait 14 00:01:17.000 --> 00:01:20.799 fourteen fucking years to get Alien Versus Predator in two 15 00:01:20.879 --> 00:01:24.920 thousand and four. HP HPB is here with me, everybody, 16 00:01:25.000 --> 00:01:28.519 HP night, mister Walter's HP No, he's jenkis HP He's 17 00:01:28.359 --> 00:01:29.719 he's my yaoucha pal. 18 00:01:31.480 --> 00:01:34.400 I'm the partner in Dayu yaucha fest Or. I didn't 19 00:01:34.400 --> 00:01:36.959 say it right, I just killed all credibility. Yes, what 20 00:01:37.000 --> 00:01:38.879 can I say? What can I do for your father alone? 21 00:01:39.079 --> 00:01:41.400 When did you first see Alien Versus Predator? Was this 22 00:01:41.480 --> 00:01:42.239 your first time? 23 00:01:43.159 --> 00:01:46.439 This was my first time? I as I mentioned in 24 00:01:46.480 --> 00:01:49.719 the last episode, I did see Predator two in the movies, 25 00:01:49.799 --> 00:01:54.000 but I think a combination of factors kind of left 26 00:01:54.040 --> 00:01:57.920 me lukewarm on this one. I it was fourteen years 27 00:01:58.000 --> 00:02:00.239 or so later, or what have you. I wasn't all 28 00:02:00.280 --> 00:02:05.599 that enthused about the director that we'll discuss momentarily, and honestly, 29 00:02:05.680 --> 00:02:10.000 it the ads and the previews didn't look that interesting 30 00:02:10.080 --> 00:02:13.280 to me as of the time, so I just I 31 00:02:13.360 --> 00:02:15.439 kind of missed it. I didn't figure it was because 32 00:02:15.479 --> 00:02:20.000 I didn't by then. It's my understanding that the comic 33 00:02:20.039 --> 00:02:23.919 book picked up a lot of slack for Predator in 34 00:02:24.120 --> 00:02:26.159 culturally speaking, Am I correct on that. 35 00:02:26.680 --> 00:02:29.360 You're talking about Alien Versus Predator? The comic books? 36 00:02:29.800 --> 00:02:31.680 Yeah, the Mark Verheiden book. 37 00:02:31.879 --> 00:02:35.479 Yes, the Extended Universe where we got Alien Versus Predator 38 00:02:35.680 --> 00:02:39.719 in comic form, which was almost immediately following Predator two. 39 00:02:40.319 --> 00:02:43.840 That story was set in the Alien universe, so it 40 00:02:43.840 --> 00:02:47.560 took place on an outpost and in the future basically, 41 00:02:47.599 --> 00:02:52.439 so it was contemporaryd Then now, interestingly, here's what happened. 42 00:02:52.919 --> 00:02:55.439 Predator two comes out, and now, thanks to Stephen Hopkins 43 00:02:55.520 --> 00:02:58.599 very wisely saying this would look cool and sticking an 44 00:02:58.680 --> 00:03:03.120 alien skull on Predatorship, everyone thought, oh my god, these 45 00:03:03.159 --> 00:03:05.919 things exist in the same universe. We could do something 46 00:03:05.919 --> 00:03:10.599 with that, including newly installed twentieth century fox head Joe Roth, 47 00:03:10.719 --> 00:03:14.800 who evidently had said we need an Alien Versus Predator film, 48 00:03:15.000 --> 00:03:18.159 when two days later a spec script showed up on 49 00:03:18.280 --> 00:03:20.919 his desk from an author named Peter Briggs, who would 50 00:03:20.919 --> 00:03:23.639 eventually write the hell Boy movie, who just wrote it 51 00:03:23.719 --> 00:03:26.919 as a spec script to get rewrite work. And it's 52 00:03:27.080 --> 00:03:31.719 effectively an adaptation of the Verheiden comic. So for the 53 00:03:31.879 --> 00:03:35.039 entirety of the nineties, Alien Versus Predator was in play 54 00:03:35.520 --> 00:03:38.240 and going to take place on an outpost on another 55 00:03:38.319 --> 00:03:43.360 planet where predators are seeding the planet with alien eggs 56 00:03:43.400 --> 00:03:46.319 so that they can hunt, which is a pretty cool idea. 57 00:03:46.439 --> 00:03:50.800 But then it's basically the comic book, because Briggs pretty 58 00:03:50.879 --> 00:03:54.400 liberally borrowed, let's say, from the comic book. 59 00:03:54.840 --> 00:03:56.400 Do you read the books in their day? 60 00:03:57.039 --> 00:03:59.479 I read some of them, But then at that time 61 00:03:59.479 --> 00:04:04.080 the Predator wasn't my thing, so I wasn't as interested 62 00:04:04.120 --> 00:04:08.479 in the Predator as I was the Zeno morph Aliens. 63 00:04:08.680 --> 00:04:10.719 Sure that makes sense. There was an arcade game. I 64 00:04:10.719 --> 00:04:14.520 think it must have predated this the movie, don't you 65 00:04:14.520 --> 00:04:17.199 remember we I think we actually played it somewhat in 66 00:04:17.279 --> 00:04:21.160 high school. It was a Alien Versus Predator video game 67 00:04:21.199 --> 00:04:24.639 where I think you could play as either the Colonial 68 00:04:24.720 --> 00:04:29.160 Marine or the or the Yaucha and it was basically 69 00:04:29.199 --> 00:04:32.639 just a run and gun, let's kill the Xeno morphs 70 00:04:32.639 --> 00:04:33.959 before they kill us. Do you remember that? 71 00:04:34.240 --> 00:04:35.600 I have no recollection of this. 72 00:04:36.120 --> 00:04:38.639 No, okay, well, if you you should look that up. 73 00:04:38.639 --> 00:04:41.120 It was a pretty cool You remember the Alien game, though, 74 00:04:41.319 --> 00:04:42.800 I know we played the Alien Game. 75 00:04:43.439 --> 00:04:45.439 I remember the Alien Game. I remember the Smart Gun. 76 00:04:46.040 --> 00:04:49.040 It was very similar to that, except it had you 77 00:04:49.040 --> 00:04:50.759 could play as the predator effectively. 78 00:04:51.279 --> 00:04:53.879 What was that stupid jungle game? That these are all 79 00:04:53.920 --> 00:04:55.000 sort of modeled on. 80 00:04:56.360 --> 00:04:57.120 The Jungle King? 81 00:04:57.839 --> 00:05:01.480 No, that it was a game with two soldiers Contra, right, 82 00:05:01.560 --> 00:05:02.920 these were all based on Contra. 83 00:05:03.040 --> 00:05:07.920 Really sure, Yeah, it's just stupid. That's interesting you consider 84 00:05:07.959 --> 00:05:10.680 it like a jungle game. I guess it's true. You 85 00:05:10.720 --> 00:05:13.000 are in the rainforest or something, but I think there 86 00:05:13.040 --> 00:05:15.519 was a lot of like sci fi elements to that too, which. 87 00:05:15.439 --> 00:05:17.040 There were tons of sci fi elements, but it took 88 00:05:17.040 --> 00:05:19.279 place in a jungle and it was called Contra, which 89 00:05:19.319 --> 00:05:21.519 at the time, the word Contra in my mind, just 90 00:05:21.560 --> 00:05:22.920 meant the Iran Contra. 91 00:05:24.040 --> 00:05:25.680 It was very big in the news at that point. 92 00:05:25.759 --> 00:05:27.639 I'll have to look it up and see if that 93 00:05:27.639 --> 00:05:32.000 that game predates the AVP movie. It might because the books, 94 00:05:32.040 --> 00:05:34.879 like you said, the comic books were in the public 95 00:05:35.360 --> 00:05:38.360 consciousness at that point. They weren't super popular, but they 96 00:05:38.439 --> 00:05:42.040 kind of kept the Predator in somebody's mind. At least 97 00:05:42.279 --> 00:05:45.560 they carried the water for those years, those intervening years, right. 98 00:05:45.879 --> 00:05:48.319 They did. Indeed until two thousand and four. Did I 99 00:05:48.360 --> 00:05:49.920 say that already because I'm. 100 00:05:49.759 --> 00:05:52.360 Oh, it was from ninety four, the arcade game. 101 00:05:52.600 --> 00:05:55.319 Oh okay, see yeah, yeah, I have no recollection of 102 00:05:55.319 --> 00:05:57.560 the game. I certainly don't recommend it, but I don't 103 00:05:57.600 --> 00:06:00.000 recommend I don't recall playing it with you. 104 00:06:00.480 --> 00:06:02.839 Yeah. Maybe that would have been after high school. That 105 00:06:02.879 --> 00:06:04.879 was ninety four, so I stand corrected. 106 00:06:05.519 --> 00:06:08.759 However, on August the thirteenth, two thousand and four, that's 107 00:06:08.800 --> 00:06:11.279 when Alien of Versus Predator was released. 108 00:06:17.879 --> 00:06:22.040 Seven days ago, one of my satellites over Antarctica discovered a. 109 00:06:22.079 --> 00:06:26.439 Pyramid where exactly on the ice is this? 110 00:06:27.319 --> 00:06:30.759 It's not on the ice, it's two thousand feet under it. 111 00:06:36.199 --> 00:06:40.879 Let's make history. Oh my god, I never built this pyramid. 112 00:06:40.959 --> 00:06:54.519 Believed in ritual sacrifice. Did you hear that? What was that. 113 00:06:57.680 --> 00:06:59.000 Let's go on, let's go. 114 00:07:09.240 --> 00:07:09.959 What did you say? 115 00:07:10.000 --> 00:07:20.639 This room was called it's acrificial chamber. The story is 116 00:07:20.639 --> 00:07:21.079 all here. 117 00:07:22.360 --> 00:07:23.639 This whole thing was a trap. 118 00:07:27.600 --> 00:07:28.680 I'm not hunting us. 119 00:07:29.959 --> 00:07:34.879 We're in the middle of a war. They're using us 120 00:07:34.920 --> 00:07:35.519 as baits. 121 00:07:43.439 --> 00:07:45.600 You're ugly sables. 122 00:08:21.319 --> 00:08:25.959 Alien Versus Predator written by Paul W. S Anderson, not 123 00:08:26.279 --> 00:08:29.040 Paul Thomas Anderson. You not to see he adopted the 124 00:08:29.199 --> 00:08:33.320 WS after Thomas Anderson hit the scene with a screen 125 00:08:33.399 --> 00:08:36.639 story by Paul W. S Anderson and Dan O'Bannon and 126 00:08:36.840 --> 00:08:40.919 Ronald Shusett. Now there's been debate online about what this 127 00:08:40.960 --> 00:08:43.799 particular credit means. Some people think it means that since 128 00:08:43.840 --> 00:08:46.759 it's based on their original screenplay, they're getting their credit there, 129 00:08:46.759 --> 00:08:48.759 but that's not true because they get that credit later 130 00:08:48.759 --> 00:08:51.159 in the movie in the final credits, the alien based 131 00:08:51.159 --> 00:08:55.120 on their thing. What happened here is Paul W. S 132 00:08:55.159 --> 00:08:59.559 Anderson evidently claimed that he spoke to them or had 133 00:08:59.600 --> 00:09:02.200 their ideas for a treatment, and then took some of 134 00:09:02.240 --> 00:09:05.720 their ideas, which is all bullshit because Peter Briggs, the 135 00:09:05.720 --> 00:09:09.159 guy who had written that initial Alien Versus Predator screenplay, 136 00:09:09.440 --> 00:09:12.799 actually approached the writers Guild and said that Paul W. 137 00:09:13.000 --> 00:09:16.639 S Anderson's screenplay had so many elements from Dan O'Bannon's 138 00:09:16.639 --> 00:09:19.799 original Alien script that they deserved credit, and the WGA 139 00:09:19.919 --> 00:09:24.960 agreed because in the original Alien script they land on 140 00:09:25.000 --> 00:09:28.480 a planet and find a giant pyramid and there's all 141 00:09:28.519 --> 00:09:33.159 sort of sacrificial things within and basically elements that could 142 00:09:33.240 --> 00:09:37.960 or could not possibly translate over to this. It is 143 00:09:38.559 --> 00:09:41.159 likely that Paul W. S Anderson had no idea of 144 00:09:41.200 --> 00:09:45.559 what was the contents of the original Starbeast screenplay. Nevertheless, 145 00:09:46.000 --> 00:09:48.799 Dan O'Bannon and Ronald Shoo's got paid, so that's probably 146 00:09:48.799 --> 00:09:51.159 the best thing that happened with this movie. But like 147 00:09:51.200 --> 00:09:54.240 I said, those are the writer and director. It is 148 00:09:54.399 --> 00:09:59.240 starring Sanah Lathan, Lance Hendrickson, You and Bremner sput everybody 149 00:09:59.399 --> 00:10:03.039 Tommy fl It occurred to me that Tommy Flanagan, he 150 00:10:03.200 --> 00:10:06.399 is the Sons of Anarchy and every badass and everything. 151 00:10:06.720 --> 00:10:11.399 The John Lovett's character of the liar Tommy is also 152 00:10:11.480 --> 00:10:15.480 Tommy Flannagain. Yeah, I mean that is that he lies 153 00:10:15.519 --> 00:10:16.840 about the pronunciation of his name. 154 00:10:17.120 --> 00:10:19.679 Well, that's a good point. He I remember him most 155 00:10:20.200 --> 00:10:21.840 because when I saw him in this, I said, I 156 00:10:21.879 --> 00:10:25.080 know that guy from somewhere. I remembered him from Gladiator 157 00:10:25.159 --> 00:10:28.960 because he has that very distinctive scar on his face, 158 00:10:29.639 --> 00:10:33.000 and I never I thought that was done just for Gladiator, 159 00:10:33.039 --> 00:10:36.120 But I guess he's truly scarred in real life. 160 00:10:36.559 --> 00:10:38.879 Evidently bottled in his youth. 161 00:10:39.000 --> 00:10:43.440 Yeah, okay, oh really wow, like a bar fight or something. 162 00:10:43.639 --> 00:10:48.039 Yeah, that's what I had read that might be about. 163 00:10:48.159 --> 00:10:49.679 Don't take me at my word, but that. 164 00:10:50.600 --> 00:10:52.960 Woof, I know, that's pretty badass. 165 00:10:53.399 --> 00:10:55.840 I think who else is in it? Who cares? Colin Salmon? 166 00:10:56.399 --> 00:11:00.519 He's mister Cube from the Resident Evil movie. Speaking of evil? 167 00:11:00.559 --> 00:11:04.200 This is written and directed by that tour Paul Anderson. 168 00:11:04.279 --> 00:11:07.399 He's mainly known for what Resident Evil, the Resident Evil movie, 169 00:11:07.480 --> 00:11:09.080 several of them, although he didn't direct all of them, 170 00:11:09.120 --> 00:11:14.840 he directed all the ones with his wife. Yes. He 171 00:11:14.879 --> 00:11:16.679 then did Event Horizon. 172 00:11:17.279 --> 00:11:19.440 He did Moratal Kombat, the original. 173 00:11:19.600 --> 00:11:23.159 Oh my god. Yeah, please name some other mediocre movies 174 00:11:23.200 --> 00:11:25.159 that he did hither his. 175 00:11:25.240 --> 00:11:28.720 Career is rife with them. He did a remake of 176 00:11:28.759 --> 00:11:29.360 Death Race. 177 00:11:29.679 --> 00:11:32.000 He did the remake of Death Race. How can you 178 00:11:32.039 --> 00:11:33.799 fuck up Death Race? You moron? 179 00:11:35.159 --> 00:11:38.279 Seriously? That's right there? What else did he do? He's 180 00:11:38.320 --> 00:11:41.200 done a lot of adaptations. He did an adaptation of 181 00:11:41.279 --> 00:11:42.879 a game called Monster Hunter. 182 00:11:43.240 --> 00:11:45.159 I tried to watch that. I couldn't get through it. 183 00:11:45.759 --> 00:11:48.879 Not good he did apparently he did a version of 184 00:11:48.919 --> 00:11:50.200 The Three Musketeers. 185 00:11:50.519 --> 00:11:54.000 Oh yeah, that was terrible too. It's all very frenetic 186 00:11:54.080 --> 00:11:57.399 and very very resident evil, but like completely out of 187 00:11:57.440 --> 00:11:58.679 place and too modern. 188 00:11:59.159 --> 00:12:01.000 Did you mention already? 189 00:12:01.399 --> 00:12:01.519 Oh? 190 00:12:01.559 --> 00:12:06.320 He directed Soldier, maybe his one like swipe at Legitimacy, 191 00:12:06.559 --> 00:12:09.600 but only because of a central performance by Kurt Russell. 192 00:12:09.720 --> 00:12:12.080 If Kurt Russell wasn't in that movie, nobody would ever 193 00:12:12.120 --> 00:12:15.159 mention it. I don't care how many Blade Runner spinners 194 00:12:15.200 --> 00:12:16.840 you throw into a garbage pile. 195 00:12:17.039 --> 00:12:21.720 Friend, this is true. No, I think Event Horizon was 196 00:12:22.559 --> 00:12:24.799 the best movie. Yeah, yeah, I was gonna say that's 197 00:12:24.799 --> 00:12:28.080 probably his most enduring picture. Like that's not one that's 198 00:12:28.120 --> 00:12:31.679 beholden to another franchise, or that's a good picture. 199 00:12:32.039 --> 00:12:36.159 It is, except I hate that Laurence Fishburne and Jack 200 00:12:36.200 --> 00:12:39.320 Nosworthy are constantly calling each other Papa Bear and baby Bear. 201 00:12:39.679 --> 00:12:42.440 And speaking of I hate Jack Nosworthy. 202 00:12:42.840 --> 00:12:45.080 What was that show that he used to have on. 203 00:12:45.120 --> 00:12:47.080 MTV Dead at seventeen. 204 00:12:47.360 --> 00:12:51.480 That's the one, remember MTV at the time was that. 205 00:12:51.519 --> 00:12:53.840 This was before they discovered reality television. 206 00:12:53.960 --> 00:12:56.200 This is like the studio system in the late sixties. 207 00:12:56.240 --> 00:12:58.120 They were in free fall. They did not know what 208 00:12:58.159 --> 00:13:00.639 to do. People are no longer watching videos. We need 209 00:13:00.679 --> 00:13:02.159 to make content. What do we do here? 210 00:13:02.759 --> 00:13:05.759 Dead at twenty one, that's funny, twenty one seventeen. 211 00:13:06.440 --> 00:13:08.200 I think it is dead at twenty one because dead 212 00:13:08.240 --> 00:13:10.639 it's seventeen might be a little harsh there. Well, because 213 00:13:10.799 --> 00:13:13.799 he can name a show about killing high schoolers. 214 00:13:14.159 --> 00:13:17.519 Well, Noseworthy in that was he was a clone or 215 00:13:17.519 --> 00:13:19.480 some kind of a I don't know, there was something. 216 00:13:19.480 --> 00:13:21.679 Oh my god, that's just way ahead of its time, man. 217 00:13:22.440 --> 00:13:24.399 Yeah, he had to. It was a little bit like 218 00:13:24.399 --> 00:13:28.559 The Fugitive where he had to find some scientist or 219 00:13:28.600 --> 00:13:31.399 find somebody who was going to save his life. 220 00:13:31.960 --> 00:13:35.399 I don't it was his head or something like that. 221 00:13:35.519 --> 00:13:37.919 Yeah, yeah, it was sci fi adjacent, but it was 222 00:13:37.960 --> 00:13:42.559 not anyway. I agree. I co signed the Noseworthy disdaining 223 00:13:42.600 --> 00:13:44.360 he was in one last note on him. He was 224 00:13:44.399 --> 00:13:46.559 also the one of the bad guys in the original 225 00:13:46.559 --> 00:13:47.960 Brady Bunch movie. Do you remember that? 226 00:13:48.320 --> 00:13:50.879 Oh? Yeah, HP, what's the story? 227 00:13:51.519 --> 00:13:54.759 So the story, the broad strokes of the story are 228 00:13:55.279 --> 00:13:58.840 that this is this exists now in the I don't 229 00:13:58.879 --> 00:14:01.759 know if this is still Cannon, but in this movie, 230 00:14:01.919 --> 00:14:06.240 it's not Whalen Utani yet, it's just Whalen Corporation. They 231 00:14:06.559 --> 00:14:11.679 one of their satellites detects a giant pyramid buried beneath 232 00:14:11.679 --> 00:14:16.879 the ice in Antarctica, and they, I guess it's Lance 233 00:14:16.919 --> 00:14:18.559 Hendrickson's character. 234 00:14:18.840 --> 00:14:22.399 Charles, Bishop of Whalen, meaning that the Whaland Corporation must 235 00:14:22.440 --> 00:14:25.600 be the robotics part of Whaland Utani. 236 00:14:25.440 --> 00:14:28.799 Right, exactly, exactly, So he puts together a team of 237 00:14:29.120 --> 00:14:33.679 scientists and archaeologists and to go and investigate this, this 238 00:14:33.759 --> 00:14:39.000 pyramid under the ice, and unbeknownst to them, this pyramid 239 00:14:39.039 --> 00:14:41.600 and we'll talk more about it the actual nuts and bolts, 240 00:14:41.600 --> 00:14:46.000 but this pyramid figures very heavily in the mytho, the 241 00:14:46.080 --> 00:14:51.480 Yaocha alien mythos, and things are not what they expect. 242 00:14:52.159 --> 00:14:56.200 People die in all sorts of horrible ways, and yeah, 243 00:14:56.360 --> 00:15:01.720 aliens fight predators, Predators fight aliens, and and it's one big. 244 00:15:01.600 --> 00:15:03.960 Mess the end, bye, everybody. 245 00:15:04.000 --> 00:15:07.600 Yeah, what with the tagline was whoever wins, we lose 246 00:15:07.759 --> 00:15:08.480 or we all. 247 00:15:08.279 --> 00:15:13.639 Lose, right, Yeah, we lose, which is great. Okay, I remember, 248 00:15:14.039 --> 00:15:17.799 like Predator to really enjoying this movie. Although not tempered, 249 00:15:17.879 --> 00:15:21.159 I've had problems with it from the beginning. Let's start 250 00:15:21.279 --> 00:15:24.480 with I don't know, let's say the setup. It's set 251 00:15:24.519 --> 00:15:28.440 on Earth, it's sent in a contemporary two thousand It's 252 00:15:28.799 --> 00:15:30.559 movie takes place inwo thousand and four. It's set in 253 00:15:30.559 --> 00:15:35.360 two thousand and four, so automatically you're setting up a 254 00:15:35.399 --> 00:15:37.960 situation where nobody knows nothing. 255 00:15:38.480 --> 00:15:42.000 Well, it's effectively a prequel to the very first Alien movie. 256 00:15:41.919 --> 00:15:45.879 Right, correct. This is a sequel to Predator two and 257 00:15:46.000 --> 00:15:50.240 a prequel to Alien, so we should have some knowledge 258 00:15:50.240 --> 00:15:52.879 of the Predators, but we don't hear in this movie 259 00:15:52.919 --> 00:15:56.879 because they've What they've done is oh my goodness. Okay. 260 00:15:57.879 --> 00:16:00.840 Charles Whalen, head of the Whalen Corporation, his satellite picks 261 00:16:00.919 --> 00:16:03.879 up that this pyramid exists down there and knows that 262 00:16:03.960 --> 00:16:05.879 other corporations are on the way, so he has to 263 00:16:05.919 --> 00:16:07.600 make a team. He's got to put a team together 264 00:16:07.639 --> 00:16:11.399 really quickly, which he does, headed by or not headed 265 00:16:11.440 --> 00:16:15.120 by but Sna Lathan. That's Blade's mom, everybody, I don't 266 00:16:15.120 --> 00:16:17.399 know why she wasn't more popular and Famous. I love her. 267 00:16:17.639 --> 00:16:20.120 She's great, she's fantastic. 268 00:16:19.559 --> 00:16:21.679 She's great. Let's talk about Sailithan. Let's talk about her 269 00:16:21.759 --> 00:16:25.759 character here, Alexa Woods, who you can tell this is here. 270 00:16:26.320 --> 00:16:28.679 Let's just get to the fucking chase here. I know 271 00:16:29.080 --> 00:16:32.639 I'm jumping around like crazy, but Paul ws Anderson is terrible. 272 00:16:32.799 --> 00:16:36.120 He's a terrible filmmaker. He does okay kind of with action, 273 00:16:36.559 --> 00:16:40.000 but really as a writer, he is like he is 274 00:16:40.240 --> 00:16:44.919 television level writing. Everyone just says subtext. Everyone just like 275 00:16:45.039 --> 00:16:48.600 forwards the plot. Everyone just tells you something about themselves 276 00:16:48.720 --> 00:16:51.919 just to endear themselves. It's all just like cookie cutter 277 00:16:52.080 --> 00:16:56.360 fucking nonsense, including the characterization of the lead here. You 278 00:16:56.399 --> 00:16:58.879 can tell he sat down and wrote, well, this is 279 00:16:58.960 --> 00:17:01.440 kind of like Alien, so I'm going to write Ripley. 280 00:17:01.840 --> 00:17:04.720 But here's the thing. So what he does is he 281 00:17:04.759 --> 00:17:08.000 makes her character really strident, like kind of a buzz kills. 282 00:17:08.000 --> 00:17:10.680 She's always like, you're doing wrong, fellows, I'm about of here. 283 00:17:10.720 --> 00:17:13.759 You bet it followed my rules kind of a thing, which, 284 00:17:13.960 --> 00:17:17.720 if you watch Alien, Ripley is an asshole for half 285 00:17:17.759 --> 00:17:22.079 of the movie. But so you're off kilter when it 286 00:17:22.079 --> 00:17:24.359 turns out that she's the hero because you think Dallas 287 00:17:24.440 --> 00:17:27.519 is the hero for most of that movie, right, So 288 00:17:27.559 --> 00:17:29.920 when it turns out that she's the hero, now we're 289 00:17:29.920 --> 00:17:32.160 totally on her side. And now when you've rewatched the movie, 290 00:17:32.160 --> 00:17:35.839 you know that everything she's saying is true. Don't open 291 00:17:35.880 --> 00:17:39.200 that door, don't do this thing. But the point is 292 00:17:39.799 --> 00:17:42.000 you get to that point where you love Ripley by 293 00:17:42.000 --> 00:17:45.119 the end of the movie, whereas this we never get that. 294 00:17:45.279 --> 00:17:47.519 But there's no switch. But this is our lead. We 295 00:17:47.599 --> 00:17:49.599 know she's our lead. The opening scene is her like 296 00:17:49.680 --> 00:17:52.319 hanging off a fucking cliff face while they come collect 297 00:17:52.319 --> 00:17:53.119 her for the mission. 298 00:17:53.839 --> 00:17:56.400 Yeah, it's like at the beginning of Mission Impossible too, 299 00:17:56.680 --> 00:17:59.960 or that Star Trek movie where Captain Kirk is freaking 300 00:18:00.079 --> 00:18:01.839 i'ming ol Capitan again. 301 00:18:01.960 --> 00:18:07.039 Just shorthand Paul hobbling shit together from other fucking movies. 302 00:18:07.680 --> 00:18:12.039 Yeah, as you're talking about the dialogue and the characterizations, 303 00:18:12.160 --> 00:18:14.599 and we haven't really talked about the actual plot, which 304 00:18:14.640 --> 00:18:18.119 is a whole nother thing. But because it's everything is 305 00:18:18.160 --> 00:18:21.160 so stilted in terms of the dialogue and how the 306 00:18:21.279 --> 00:18:23.960 characters are written and the direction, which I know we'll 307 00:18:23.960 --> 00:18:27.000 talk about too. The end result for me, Father Malone 308 00:18:27.119 --> 00:18:30.559 is there's never a moment where I'm not aware that 309 00:18:30.640 --> 00:18:34.519 I'm watching a movie. You can We talked about the 310 00:18:34.519 --> 00:18:37.640 first Predator, but the thing that I think about now 311 00:18:37.680 --> 00:18:40.480 with Predator the very first one is you're able to 312 00:18:40.559 --> 00:18:43.920 lose yourself in it because the filmmaking and the actual 313 00:18:45.000 --> 00:18:48.880 story and the characters are so engaging that you can 314 00:18:49.400 --> 00:18:52.119 lose yourself in the setting of the jungle in South 315 00:18:52.160 --> 00:18:54.799 America or what have you. But this there's never a 316 00:18:54.880 --> 00:18:58.799 moment that I'm not thinking to myself, I'm watching son 317 00:18:58.839 --> 00:19:02.079 A Latham a speech in front of these guys, or 318 00:19:02.480 --> 00:19:05.079 they're climbing down a rock face, and it's just it 319 00:19:05.720 --> 00:19:09.200 was so you want to be transported in a movie, 320 00:19:09.240 --> 00:19:12.000 That's the whole point. You're gonna be taken somewhere else. 321 00:19:12.000 --> 00:19:14.839 It may not be a fun journey, but it's gonna 322 00:19:14.839 --> 00:19:17.599 be memorable. But this, every step of the way, I'm 323 00:19:17.640 --> 00:19:22.480 fighting against the clunkiness of the story, of the direction, 324 00:19:23.240 --> 00:19:27.039 of the of the dialogue. Everything, it's all fighting against it. 325 00:19:27.480 --> 00:19:29.640 We're gonna be piling on this, but you have no 326 00:19:29.759 --> 00:19:32.160 idea what's in store because we haven't gotten to Alien 327 00:19:32.240 --> 00:19:36.720 Versus Predator Requiem, which makes this movie look like motherfucking Shakespeare. 328 00:19:37.440 --> 00:19:41.359 Yeah, and it's so I know that you had said 329 00:19:41.480 --> 00:19:43.160 and we're jumping around even more. But I know you 330 00:19:43.240 --> 00:19:46.039 said that. The idea of this pyramid that has an 331 00:19:46.119 --> 00:19:50.920 alien seated with aliens for the outcha to hunt, I 332 00:19:50.960 --> 00:19:54.640 know that derived from another source. But I gotta tell you, 333 00:19:54.680 --> 00:19:57.640 like I'm coming into this. I watched this over the weekend, 334 00:19:57.640 --> 00:20:01.880 and I'm coming into this really looking foe to seeing 335 00:20:01.920 --> 00:20:04.680 some alien versus predator fighting and what have you. But 336 00:20:05.200 --> 00:20:08.559 the plot of it is so labored to get to 337 00:20:08.599 --> 00:20:11.839 the point where the two factions, if you will, are 338 00:20:11.880 --> 00:20:16.759 actually engaged in fighting. It's exhausting, frankly, Father Malone, because 339 00:20:17.359 --> 00:20:21.160 it should not be. It shouldn't be difficult to get 340 00:20:21.200 --> 00:20:25.759 these two creatures of the silver screen to face off 341 00:20:25.799 --> 00:20:29.200 against each other. But like this idea that there's this pyramid, 342 00:20:29.559 --> 00:20:33.400 and every ten minutes the pyramid changes configuration because it's 343 00:20:33.400 --> 00:20:36.839 a plot. It's going over the going from the Mayan calendar, 344 00:20:37.400 --> 00:20:41.119 and sometimes people get separated and things where youconfigure like 345 00:20:41.119 --> 00:20:45.440 a Rubik's cube. And then there's this alien mother that's 346 00:20:45.720 --> 00:20:48.480 held captive, that is being forced to lay eggs, and 347 00:20:49.119 --> 00:20:52.480 it's so it's like I said, it's so, it's frankly 348 00:20:52.559 --> 00:20:55.759 exhausting just to get to the point where the action starts. 349 00:20:55.799 --> 00:20:58.359 All right, let's take it chronologically. Let's try and do this. 350 00:20:58.920 --> 00:21:02.279 Did you watch the theme or the unrated director's cut? 351 00:21:02.480 --> 00:21:06.319 You know what, I'm not sure I did your movie begin? 352 00:21:07.160 --> 00:21:12.279 How did it begin? It began with the satellite picking 353 00:21:12.400 --> 00:21:16.279 up the imaging of the of the pyramid. Then you 354 00:21:16.920 --> 00:21:21.079 the action shifts to Mexico where the archaeologist is there 355 00:21:21.119 --> 00:21:23.680 on a dig and it's a failed dig, and a 356 00:21:23.720 --> 00:21:27.359 whalen representative invites him to go on this mission. 357 00:21:27.839 --> 00:21:30.559 Okay, then I think you go watch the theatrical cut. 358 00:21:30.799 --> 00:21:32.839 Okay, I guess I did. 359 00:21:32.720 --> 00:21:34.640 Which I saw in the theater. I saw this movie 360 00:21:34.640 --> 00:21:36.920 in the theater. In fact, I was a projectionist when 361 00:21:36.920 --> 00:21:39.200 this movie played. I played this movie. So I've seen 362 00:21:39.240 --> 00:21:42.160 this movie quite a bit many times. Last night was 363 00:21:42.160 --> 00:21:44.480 the first time I watched the unrated director's cut. My 364 00:21:44.640 --> 00:21:48.799 movie began differently. The director's cut begins in nineteen oh 365 00:21:48.839 --> 00:21:50.519 four at the whaling station. 366 00:21:50.720 --> 00:21:54.400 And I'm sorry, that's I apologize. I forgot about that 367 00:21:54.440 --> 00:21:55.200 part I did. 368 00:21:55.480 --> 00:21:57.240 We watched it, but then we watched the same cut, 369 00:21:57.279 --> 00:21:58.160 perfect we're all. 370 00:21:58.200 --> 00:22:00.880 I forgot about that bit because it goes by so fast. 371 00:22:00.960 --> 00:22:03.720 That so quick, and it has no fucking purpose other 372 00:22:03.759 --> 00:22:05.400 than to let us know we're going to be an 373 00:22:05.400 --> 00:22:07.359 Antarctica and they're going to be predators and they're going 374 00:22:07.400 --> 00:22:09.200 to be aliens. As if we didn't show up to 375 00:22:09.279 --> 00:22:10.759 a mo it be called alien versus predator. 376 00:22:10.839 --> 00:22:14.720 Let's go right, But yeah, it does start in nineteen 377 00:22:14.759 --> 00:22:18.759 oh four and these the wailing Outpost is being attacked 378 00:22:18.839 --> 00:22:22.000 by predators and that's the start of the movie. So 379 00:22:22.079 --> 00:22:24.160 you're as an audience member, I guess it makes more 380 00:22:24.160 --> 00:22:26.799 sense than the theatrical cut because you understand that there's 381 00:22:26.799 --> 00:22:31.200 some history behind this area for predators, But at the 382 00:22:31.200 --> 00:22:35.720 same time, you're still not prepared for twisting the logical 383 00:22:36.200 --> 00:22:40.799 twisting into Pretzels scenario that we're dealing with. 384 00:22:40.720 --> 00:22:44.119 This, which with this opening it piles it on even 385 00:22:44.160 --> 00:22:47.599 more because he's setting it up right here because the 386 00:22:47.640 --> 00:22:50.720 film takes place in two thousand and four, where this 387 00:22:50.759 --> 00:22:53.160 is one hundred years ago, so already were setting up 388 00:22:53.200 --> 00:22:55.720 rule every one hundred years, the predators come to this 389 00:22:55.839 --> 00:22:58.759 planet and go to the one of these temples where 390 00:22:58.799 --> 00:23:01.640 they have rights of which kind. 391 00:23:01.559 --> 00:23:04.079 Of I can't say if it's a if it's a 392 00:23:04.119 --> 00:23:08.640 bold move, or maybe running counter to known predator lore, 393 00:23:08.759 --> 00:23:12.799 because in the previous two movies, we are told that 394 00:23:13.319 --> 00:23:17.839 the predator only hunts on it when so hot, like 395 00:23:17.920 --> 00:23:20.559 the temperature is a big factor, and when the predator 396 00:23:20.640 --> 00:23:23.759 hunts right and here we are and it's the coldest, 397 00:23:23.880 --> 00:23:27.119 one of the coldest regions in the globe, and now 398 00:23:27.200 --> 00:23:30.039 that's part of predator lore. It's a little confusing. 399 00:23:30.599 --> 00:23:34.240 Not only that they make no effort to update the 400 00:23:34.400 --> 00:23:38.319 predator's garb. They do fight the way they fight because 401 00:23:38.319 --> 00:23:43.119