Speaker 1: Welcome to the Parenting Roundabout podcast. I'm Terry Morrow and
Speaker 1: I'm Catherine Jileco. As parents and parenting writers, we can't
Speaker 1: help but see everything through a parenting lens. But as
Speaker 1: our kids have become adults, we find ourselves more interested
Speaker 1: in getting caught up on movies and streaming than I'm
Speaker 1: going over the same parenting topics over and over.
Speaker 2: So, since we're pretty sure we can find parenting wisdom anywhere,
Speaker 2: we're going to talk about what we're watching, what we
Speaker 2: thought about it, and maybe what we can learn from it,
Speaker 2: if only what not to do. Watch and listen along,
Speaker 2: and let's all make like we're doing something important for
Speaker 2: our families.
Speaker 1: Each Wednesday we bring you a watch or we watch
Speaker 1: of an older entertainment property. And for this week of
Speaker 1: August fifth, we are continuing with Lost, Season one, episode five.
Speaker 1: We are now talking about White Rabbit, a Jack flashback episode.
Speaker 1: And I believe the debut on this show of what
Speaker 1: will be an ongoing monster afflicting almost everybody, and that
Speaker 1: would be daddy issues. Oh dear, yep, yep, yep.
Speaker 2: And this dad was a real piece of work, was
Speaker 2: he not?
Speaker 1: Yes, even in life he was awful and in death,
Speaker 1: he leads his kid off a cliff.
Speaker 2: Yeah, although he does find some fresh water, so.
Speaker 1: That he does. He does eventually lead into fresh water
Speaker 1: and his empty coffins.
Speaker 3: So there's that.
Speaker 2: I know, are we supposed to think, well, what happened
Speaker 2: to his body?
Speaker 1: I think that we are encouraged to think about anything
Speaker 1: we want to think about the show. And people did
Speaker 1: to the tune of thousands of words. So does that
Speaker 1: mean there actually is a zombie Jack's dad wandering around?
Speaker 1: Or does that mean the coffin flew up in the
Speaker 1: bodies somewhere else? Or does that mean that the airline
Speaker 1: lady just dumped his dad out and put an weak him.
Speaker 1: I couldn't mean all sorts of things. But right now,
Speaker 1: right now, they're just throwing everything they got at the screen.
Speaker 1: So you know, we'll sort out the pieces.
Speaker 2: Later, right, much like we're constantly sorting through the luggage.
Speaker 1: Yes, oh still still, how could they have not gone
Speaker 1: through all that luggage at this point?
Speaker 2: I know there's forty seven people and there's it's been
Speaker 2: like a week, yeah, maybe five days, six days.
Speaker 1: Well, there's one fewer person now because.
Speaker 2: Yes, because somebody round having failed to save her yeah.
Speaker 1: Oh boon. He tried, and then in saving him, Jack
Speaker 1: failed to save her. And does really nobody else know
Speaker 1: how to swim? I mean, Charlie says he doesn't know
Speaker 1: how to swim. SAYI doesn't swim, right, Gin doesn't swim?
Speaker 1: You're like Sawyer might be a swimmer, but he would
Speaker 1: not do it.
Speaker 2: I feel like Gin's everyman for you know, he's the
Speaker 2: only looking out for Gin and son and son.
Speaker 1: That's true. And none of those extras know how to swim.
Speaker 1: I guess they figure better than me.
Speaker 2: Not an extra anymore if they start swimming pain for that?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. This is also a good illustration Jack's Jack's dilemma.
Speaker 1: In addition to showing a lot of bad parenting that
Speaker 1: he received, it's also a good reminder that parents need sleep,
Speaker 1: that you can't take care of everybody if you're not sleeping.
Speaker 1: If you're not sleeping, you see dead people and you
Speaker 1: see uh, you know, you feel like running into the
Speaker 1: jungle is a good idea, and you know you can't
Speaker 1: focus on the five million problems that those who are
Speaker 1: depending on you, and also can't save two people from
Speaker 1: drowning in the ocean, only one, So come on, take
Speaker 1: a nap. I enjoyed how I mean, we talked about
Speaker 1: Gin and Son. They're sort of by themselves and looking
Speaker 1: after themselves. But it's it's fortunate. I think that although
Speaker 1: they appear not to understand English, if you say it
Speaker 1: loudly enough, they understand. Just yell at enough times, right,
Speaker 1: and they'll know that's a useful thing. If you're an
Speaker 1: American and you don't speak any other languages, if you
Speaker 1: just say it loud, just keep turning up the volume,
Speaker 1: repeat it and louder and louder. Thank goodness. Boone decides
Speaker 1: he's going to be the leader, all right, because because
Speaker 1: who made Jack the leader? Just because he's like, you
Speaker 1: know tom.
Speaker 2: Right, the Jack's like, please remove me from this position.
Speaker 3: I do not want it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we were wondering why Boone stole the water, but
Speaker 1: I looked at read something on lost Pedia website and
Speaker 1: they were saying that it's because he decided he wanted
Speaker 1: to be the leader, and he wanted to be the
Speaker 1: one who was rationing out the water and he was
Speaker 1: taking charge, which, honey, that ain't gonna work. I don't
Speaker 1: think you can even get your your sibling to listen
Speaker 1: to you, right, the rest of the people there.
Speaker 2: Your sibling is going to make everyone else turn against you.
Speaker 1: Basically, the sawyer was congratulating him on taking over the
Speaker 1: heat for a little while.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 1: You wonder why they didn't anticipate that water was going
Speaker 1: to be a problem. I guess they're still thinking so,
Speaker 1: but he's going to save.
Speaker 3: Them, right, They're still waiting for that.
Speaker 1: Feel like you would have had some expeditions looking for water, right,
Speaker 1: and not just Lock going out with what a canteen? Maybe? Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was so funny when Jack fell off the cliff
Speaker 1: and was like, you know, this very dramatic scene of
Speaker 1: him climbing his way back up and then his hand
Speaker 1: appears off the right. I almost screamed, I would have
Speaker 1: the vine and fallen. Right, it's Dad, Okay, I know
Speaker 1: it's what it seemed to be, but of course it
Speaker 1: was Lock, yes, and I was able to pull him up.
Speaker 1: Says that he looked into the eye of this island
Speaker 1: and it was beautiful. Apparently a monster in the previous episode.
Speaker 3: The monster was beautiful.
Speaker 1: Huh something that Lock saw. Well, I don't know. His
Speaker 1: life's considerably better since he got to the islands, So
Speaker 1: I guess it's in the eye of the beholder, Claire
Speaker 1: is continuing to be pregnant, yep, and uh, everybody is
Speaker 1: just kind of waitting around, see what's gonna happen next.
Speaker 2: Right, which, yeah, you need some proactive you do need
Speaker 2: some leadership and a leader that has slept, you know,
Speaker 2: more than once in whatever this is, Yes, six days.
Speaker 1: There's like this small group that has all the ideas
Speaker 1: and does all the things right, and then within the
Speaker 1: slightly large group there's a bunch of people who say
Speaker 1: yes or no, And then there's all these other people
Speaker 1: who knows what they're doing. Maybe they're going on expeditions
Speaker 1: and get they're.
Speaker 2: Just sorting, sorting like close.
Speaker 1: Practical from impractical.
Speaker 2: Right, But even that was Claire and Kate, So like, yeah,
Speaker 2: we know these we know these two.
Speaker 1: Every now and then somebody will walk by only go wait,
Speaker 1: who is that? Where did they come from?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're just trying to keep up keep up appearances
Speaker 2: that there are forty seven people here.
Speaker 3: Forty six I think it was forty eight.
Speaker 1: Seven. Yeah, that's actually it's kind of amazing that well,
Speaker 1: was the was the guy who died the Marshall? Was he?
Speaker 1: In the original forty eight.
Speaker 3: Oh, I don't know, but that, yeah, think you got
Speaker 3: to subtract that as well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, all things considered, it's amazing that it's been
Speaker 1: such a low body count, right, A lot a few
Speaker 1: of them would have killed each other by now. Sawyer's
Speaker 1: living on borrowed time. I wonder if he has it
Speaker 1: in him.
Speaker 2: I just wonder we have, like, what, how many seasons
Speaker 2: to figure it out? Six seven?
Speaker 1: I remember a bleep load of seasons left, and it's
Speaker 1: like twenty two episodes, so we're going to be doing
Speaker 1: some neandering. I think they should put the they should
Speaker 1: put the flash of the days like they do on
Speaker 1: the in The Gentleman in Moscow. Yeah, how many days
Speaker 1: it's been, or possibly how many episodes are left before
Speaker 1: this result? How long will they be here?
Speaker 3: Blip quite a while?
Speaker 1: That might beary. So I when when Jack was trying
Speaker 1: to get the casket on the plane, which just has
Speaker 1: all sorts of implications, doesn't it If he was if
Speaker 1: if he had gone on a different plane, would this
Speaker 1: not have happened? Does the guy being on the plane
Speaker 1: have something to do with what happened? I don't know,
Speaker 1: but he says, I need to bury my father and
Speaker 1: I'm like, I know, man, I want to bury that
Speaker 1: dude too, right a deep and he go, yes, I
Speaker 1: just want to be done with this person please. Also,
Speaker 1: Veronica Hammel is his mother. Oh my goodness. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm not sure I would have recognized her if I
Speaker 1: hadn't seen her name in the credits.
Speaker 2: But yeah, they just really didn't give that guy a
Speaker 2: single redeeming second, did they.
Speaker 1: They did not. They did not, Oh, poor Jack. And
Speaker 1: then he came, rather like walk was transformed by the island.
Speaker 1: Jack was suddenly the guy. He was decisive, he was
Speaker 1: it takes, he had what it takes. Yep, just like that.
Speaker 1: So so the island is doing things to people here.
Speaker 3: I think again, Dad.
Speaker 1: Stop walking into the jungle. I want to show you
Speaker 1: what a decisive dude I am. Now they all look
Speaker 1: up to me. Don't go away. Oh golly, So he
Speaker 1: is just as screwed up as the rest of them.
Speaker 1: Apparently he couldn't have just been one dude on there
Speaker 1: who's just like Yep, I'm a I'm a good decisive.
Speaker 3: Person in my life, regular guy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm a regular guy. Good good uh doctor, good
Speaker 1: decision maker. Trust me. Nope, everybody got to be tortured
Speaker 1: one way or the other.
Speaker 3: Yep, I gotta have those issues.
Speaker 1: That's what makes it a show. So at the end
Speaker 1: he says something about we have to live together or
Speaker 1: die alone, which I think becomes kind of a catchphrase
Speaker 1: for the show.
Speaker 3: And makes sense.
Speaker 1: Neither of those things all that appealing at some point, right, Well,
Speaker 1: we'll live together, But does that guy have to be here?
Speaker 1: Can we pick the one? Can we live together like
Speaker 1: a little bunch over here, right? Can we have a
Speaker 1: contract with you to fight for us when they come through?
Speaker 2: Can we have like well, I mean they were already
Speaker 2: sort of dividing into factions right because they were like, well,
Speaker 2: who was it? Sawyer's people have water, Charlie's people have water,
Speaker 2: somebody's people.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, so yep, you know. Next time you
Speaker 1: are on an airplane, look around at the people near
Speaker 1: you and go, could I live with these people for
Speaker 1: the length of a regular American TV show? I don't know,
Speaker 1: Maybe that one, not that one, not the guy who
Speaker 1: keeps going in the bathroom, but so the person who's
Speaker 1: drinking too much, not that one. I don't know. You
Speaker 1: gotta gotta go with who you're stuck with. I guess,
Speaker 1: which is also a parenting thing. You know, you take
Speaker 1: your kids, get what you get, and then you have
Speaker 1: to find a way to make it work.
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 3: And they don't get to pick you either.
Speaker 1: No, they do not. I'm sorry, I ordered a good father.
Speaker 3: What's with this one?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 3: Thank you.
Speaker 1: Sometimes you get the hotel manager from general in Moscow.
Speaker 1: Sometimes you get the weasel. You know, there's nothing you
Speaker 1: can do about it, but anyway, should be interesting to
Speaker 1: see how they come to live together and also possibly dialogue.
Speaker 1: We'll see said the rest of them are going to
Speaker 1: survive all the way to the.
Speaker 3: End, Yeah, every single one.
Speaker 1: All right, Well, next week we will be watching season one,
Speaker 1: episode six of Lost called House of the Rising Sun,
Speaker 1: which is a Sun episode appropriately, and so it's all
Speaker 1: in Korean, so.
Speaker 2: Get your reading glasses ready for those subtitles.
Speaker 1: They'll just yell at real loud.
Speaker 3: Right, I'm like, hey, look, I know Korean though.
Speaker 1: Thank goodness for subtitles.
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 1: Anyway, we will see you back here tomorrow for our
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