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Speaker 1: Creativity is an addiction unplugged because we will always say

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yes to creativity totally incut because we all make mistakes.

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Speaker 2: So turn it into a tool.

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Speaker 1: This is arrow unplugged, hey zero, And this is d frag.

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D frag is asking the questions and questioning the answers.

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I do this in two forms of mediums, and one

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of them is sitting down with a notebook, sheets of paper,

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physical paper, with a writing instrument and asking the questions.

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Because I believe the whole body becomes a part of

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the system of choices when you write, whereas when you type,

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you're just using your fingers and your mind.

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Speaker 2: But I want the whole body to get involved.

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Speaker 1: Those inner voices need to be activated by something, so

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I keep it in a notebook. And number two when

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we go out on these transition walks, a transition walk

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through a forest in South Charlotte, North Carolina, where the

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goal is to connect with nature, is to come out

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here as a listener.

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Speaker 2: But our heads are so full of so.

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Speaker 1: Much content, the challenges, the changes, the defeats, some of

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the victories.

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Speaker 2: We don't talk much about the victories unless it's a

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really good victory.

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Speaker 1: But something so simple is left behind. So you've got

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to learn how to ask the questions and then question

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the answers. And you're not always going to like what

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you get. But as you transition, you see a better you,

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you feel better about you, and more importantly, you start

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sharing a lot more of you with others who are

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traveling beside you. The subject that I want to jump

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onto right now, I don't know if you're going to

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be able to dive into it as deep as I

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really want to go, because I don't know where you

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are in the chapters that you write. But I want

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to talk about modern day broadcasting. It surprises me that

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so many people have jumped into podcasting, which is amazing

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to my heart. That's the reason why I created a

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podcast called pod Crashing. It's designed to share the stories

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of other podcasters who where, why, when, and how it

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even happened. Fact, I'll be with Jason Alexander from Seinfeld

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next week to talk about his podcast.

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Speaker 2: But I love the.

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Speaker 1: Idea when people do approach me to ask questions about podcasting.

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question when people that I haven't seen in a long

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time step through the glass and they say, Hey, I'm

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thinking about I want to get into radio, and I

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kind of stop for a moment and I go radio, okay,

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Speaker 1: Are we talking about terrestrial radio listening through the dashboard

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of your car or on a radio connected to maybe

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your home system? What is radio in your life? And

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the answers that I get are all over the place.

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They'll come up with every reason why they want to

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get into radio, and the majority of the time is

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because I love music, I love sports, I love talking

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about the news.

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Speaker 1: I get it. What we have to do is define

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what you think radio is.

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Speaker 1: I'm a broadcast instructor. I've been doing that since nineteen

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eighty eight, and so I've grown with many, many, very

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talented people and have watched them reach global levels because

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they took a chance on this thing called radio. But

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let's go back to nineteen eighty eight and let's define

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what radio was. Back then, the dashboard of a car.

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Speaker 1: But in twenty twenty three, radio is your smartphone, it's streaming,

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it's watching videos, it's making your own videos, it's creating

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your own internet radio station. So, as I was talking

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with this gentleman who wrote to me this morning, what's

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so surprising is that I knew him when he was

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barely six years old, and now that he's wearing adult shoes,

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he's just reaching out.

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when they say that, hey, look, I really think I

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should be telling the story of music and I want

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to do a radio show. Now, did I say anything

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about going to a school of broadcasting. Absolutely not. That's

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to this question, who the hell are you and why

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the hell are you here? And I hear their stories,

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of you wanting to be a communicator, why do we

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have to put such a label as radio on it.

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can create your own TV station, yes you can, But

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can you maintain your own TV station? Can you maintain

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your own internet radio station? Can you afford the royalties

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that you need to pay out because this music isn't free?

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your internet TV station they're not so free either. I mean, sure,

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the vision of what you're going to do, and when

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things don't go your way, how are you going to

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change as a person. You see what I'm doing here,

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I'm defragging. I'm asking questions and then I will question answers.

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of doubt or you have that little situation where you go,

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where are the people? And if you go onto LinkedIn,

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there's going to be a lot of people that are

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going to be knocking on your door saying, hey, I

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can lead you to the people. But are they real people?

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numbers bots as they call them bots. How do you

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get by that kind of a situation where you've invested

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that they can show me where the people are? Can

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you keep the people? See I'm doing it again. I'm defragging.

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I'm asking the questions then questioning the answers. I would

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love it if everybody had a podcast. I would love

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to hear some of the podcasts that are coming out

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of Ukraine, or the podcasts of those who were forced

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to leave Russia because they didn't want to fight the war.

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space to say what you need to say or to

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where you're trying to grow? If you're feeling that moment.

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Speaker 1: Are you going to show up for a couple of

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episodes or are you going to show up for a

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lengthy stay? Create your own seasons. You're asking the questions,

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the answers come out, you think, okay, I got it.

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a Saturday where I am right now, a Saturday. Most

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people on Saturdays they don't do anything. They don't work

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Speaker 1: That's what it's all about there are no days of

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rest when it comes to podcasting. Sure, you can put

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guy that happened to jump into podcasting back in twenty twelve,

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listener is going to go too much. I'm getting too

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much of this guy. He's driving me totally insane. So

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especially when I said you got to pay for the music,

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you got to pay the royalties. One of them features

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nothing but monkeys music. Monkey's the nineteen sixties band. It

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features only that music. It's a Monkey's Channel. Another one

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thirty five years. But I knew they were hungry for it,

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and that word hungry is a very valuable word. Are

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become a part of the clutter? And the only way

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to find that answer out don't listen to me, but

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that answer is to give it a shot, take a chance,

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find out where you are. I mean, I've got a

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very good friend. His name is Bill. Bill was one

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of my students as well. Bill did pretty good in

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sports radio as a producer. But he's been after me

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for several years to start a podcast. I'm going to

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he finally told me this year. I said, I want

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my own podcast. He said he would start it on

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I don't know what to talk about, and I hear

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that a lot. I don't know what to talk about. Hey,

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I do a podcast. It's called CTCs. It's about me

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working at a grocery store and sharing the experiences from

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theft to section in the bathroom to whatever with people

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come in and it's amazing how people react to something

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that deals with creative spirituality. Why why would you be

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so open with the way that you feel. I couldn't

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bear my soul the way that you bear your soul

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unless you could. If you believe in the person who

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happens to be wearing a pair of podcasting boots. Ask

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a forest. It's an episode of a podcast. Why I

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taking that walk until today, and then you go out

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there and you start receiving answers, and then you put

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Speaker 2: Hi, Marril, And that's Steve Ragan