Speaker 1: Voices drift on winds untamed, where it's like spells that
Speaker 1: can't be made. Close your eyes and feel the sound
Speaker 1: journey where no bounds are found.
Speaker 2: Open doors inside your mind, the ordinary farm behind color
Speaker 2: swirl and stars line.
Speaker 3: In the Mental Mysteries, you'll find Welcome to Mada Mysteries,
Speaker 3: where you don't know what you don't know. My name
Speaker 3: is Jonathan, I'm Sean, and today we are getting very weird.
Speaker 3: I mean, and we'd be weird quite a lot. That's
Speaker 3: kind of like the basis of this show. But this
Speaker 3: one will absolutely make everybody think, like you're like, I love,
Speaker 3: you know, the preparation for this show because I love
Speaker 3: things that challenge me. And this actually I want to
Speaker 3: give a shout out to my other co host, Jacob
Speaker 3: on The Cult of Conspiracy, because he challenged me on
Speaker 3: an episode the other day and I said, well, if
Speaker 3: this is this, then this has to be this and
Speaker 3: he goes, well, that doesn't mean that.
Speaker 4: And I was like, oh no, you didn't. Oh shit.
Speaker 4: So I was like, all right, let's let's dive and
Speaker 4: we're going to charge the figure on his conversations. Though,
Speaker 4: you know when when someone doesn't quite agree with you
Speaker 4: and you can you get to have that back and
Speaker 4: forth and really challenge yourself and really think deeper, because
Speaker 4: otherwise you might feel like you you might have it
Speaker 4: figured out, you know, and then someone says something and
Speaker 4: you're like, okay, wait a minute, you know, and you
Speaker 4: can kind of that. That's the funnest kind of conversation.
Speaker 4: I think, Oh yeah, dude.
Speaker 3: And I'm very like, I want to challenge him all
Speaker 3: the time, you know, like it is my favorite thing
Speaker 3: to do, and not just for the sake of challenging him.
Speaker 3: But there are some people, and God bless Jacob, I
Speaker 3: love him very much, but there are some people who
Speaker 3: are just so stuck in their beliefs and aren't willing
Speaker 3: to wiggle at all. And I'm just trying to throw
Speaker 3: a little WD forty in there to loosen that nut
Speaker 3: up a little bit, you know what I mean. Oh yeah,
Speaker 3: So that's what we're going to be getting into today.
Speaker 3: And to be more specific, if you didn't read the
Speaker 3: title of the episode, we are going to be getting
Speaker 3: into the Omnies, okay, and this is this is something
Speaker 3: that's been talking about for a very long time, and
Speaker 3: we're going to be getting into omnipresence, omniscience, omnipotents, and
Speaker 3: and then of course oneness, which kind of brings it.
Speaker 4: All together in the right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and so it's actually we're this is kind of
Speaker 3: like a god code, like because when you go all
Speaker 3: throughout history and all throughout time, you'll see that all
Speaker 3: of these gods and all of these different religions and
Speaker 3: philosophies and everything that whatever God represents to them, it
Speaker 3: has to be omni right, whether it is omnipresent, omniscient, omnipotent,
Speaker 3: or any of them, it has to have that in
Speaker 3: order to be the main one, the orchestrator, the architect,
Speaker 3: the source or whatever that like blossomed all of this
Speaker 3: into existence. There has to be like, if it is
Speaker 3: a god that is a creator, let's just say it's creator.
Speaker 3: And I'm not even sold that this place was created.
Speaker 3: Like I like to keep an open mind and say
Speaker 3: it probably always existed, because we don't have any proof
Speaker 3: of it not existing.
Speaker 4: Right, Oh no, exactly for sure.
Speaker 3: No, I like that, you know, and I don't even
Speaker 3: keep it and I don't even specifically mean Earth. You know,
Speaker 3: some people bring it all the way back to the
Speaker 3: Big Bang, but even the Big Bang. They can't nail
Speaker 3: down a year it used to be, you know, I
Speaker 3: don't even remember. Let's just say it was that the
Speaker 3: universe was created four billion years ago, and then they
Speaker 3: just found out that it was doubled or whatever the
Speaker 3: number was it they recently doubled it. And I'm like, oh,
Speaker 3: so they don't know shit, is what you're telling me?
Speaker 4: Just double it? Just a doubt, you know, yeah, h.
Speaker 3: Right, And they you know, they look at it through
Speaker 3: you know, those high powered telescopes and maybe they can
Speaker 3: find the beginning and.
Speaker 4: Stuff like that.
Speaker 3: But who's to even say that the how do we
Speaker 3: know that there was absolutely nothing before the Big Bang?
Speaker 4: You know? Yeah? And not only that, but you know,
Speaker 4: they they will tell you that they can they can
Speaker 4: trace it back, you know, because everything is accelerating outward,
Speaker 4: it's expanding, you know, so the universe is is kind
Speaker 4: of getting bigger. But that's a whole nother kind of thing.
Speaker 4: But so they can trace that back and rewind time
Speaker 4: and look at it and go, okay, well then this
Speaker 4: would have been how long it took for that to happen?
Speaker 4: But there were there's so many different variables that we
Speaker 4: could be talking about as far as there's this thing
Speaker 4: called inflation that happened like at the very beginning where
Speaker 4: things were expanding much faster, you know, And so who's
Speaker 4: to say that it didn't just come from like you
Speaker 4: know what I mean, like it started half the size
Speaker 4: and then expanded and then maybe it's gonna come back
Speaker 4: for all we know and go back to that like
Speaker 4: it's breathing or something like that. Who fucking knows. Yeah,
Speaker 4: there's no way of knowing.
Speaker 3: And I actually like to challenge the idea of Okay,
Speaker 3: let's say there was a tiny little atom or a
Speaker 3: tiny little whatever the fuck that started all of this.
Speaker 3: Who's to say that, like that little tiny atom wasn't
Speaker 3: already the previous Big bang compressing into itself initially before that,
Speaker 3: Like right, there's no way to know, you know what
Speaker 3: I mean, And so it could literally have always always
Speaker 3: existed and it's just the universe or God or sore
Speaker 3: so whatever you want to call it, just breathing, breathing in,
Speaker 3: breathing out, just like you said, you know. So we're
Speaker 3: gonna try and understand it a little bit today to
Speaker 3: the best of our ability. So the truth is one
Speaker 3: though the Sages call it by many names. That is
Speaker 3: a quote by rig Veda. So the first portion we're
Speaker 3: going to be getting into today is the meaning of
Speaker 3: the omni. So we're gonna go over all the different omnis.
Speaker 3: We're gonna go over oneness and just try and identify
Speaker 3: the divine identity whatever.
Speaker 4: It may be. Okay, man, all right, So before.
Speaker 3: We dive into quotes and traditions we're going to get to,
Speaker 3: we need to understand what the omnis actually mean. So
Speaker 3: omnipresence means God is everywhere, not just beside you, but
Speaker 3: inside you, not just in heaven, but in hell enjoy,
Speaker 3: in sorrow, in the very atoms of your breath. So
Speaker 3: omnipresence literally everywhere, nowhere, no way that He can't or
Speaker 3: it he whatever you want to call it, no way
Speaker 3: that it can exist somewhere. There's no place that He
Speaker 3: can't exist.
Speaker 4: Essentially there it is stumbled across that a little bit.
Speaker 3: But now you have omniscience. So omnisciens means that God
Speaker 3: knows everything. Okay, So God knows everything, but not in
Speaker 3: the way a supercomputer might store data. God knows because
Speaker 3: God is every thought, He is every feeling, and he
Speaker 3: is every secret.
Speaker 4: That you've ever told that's not part of him. He
Speaker 4: is that, right, you know what I mean. And we're
Speaker 4: probably gonna get into that a little bit. Leader As
Speaker 4: far as like free will and all of that's concerned,
Speaker 4: I'm sure, And I do want to know if you
Speaker 4: know everything, then then what choice is there? You know
Speaker 4: what I mean?
Speaker 3: Well, it could just be that it's God's choice and
Speaker 3: that we forgot that we are that.
Speaker 4: Right, you know, but then yeah, we'll get into it.
Speaker 4: I'm sure.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're definitely going to get super weird in this episode.
Speaker 3: Then you, of course you have omnipotence. So omnipotence means
Speaker 3: that God has all power, so it says, but not
Speaker 3: brute force, rather the power to be all things, to
Speaker 3: dream universes into existence, to become a star, a cell,
Speaker 3: or a consciousness has the power to do whatever the fuck.
Speaker 4: It wants, right, no limitation, right, right?
Speaker 3: And I know some people are like, you know, they
Speaker 3: like to call God a he or a hymn. I'm like,
Speaker 3: how do you label that as a sex? You know,
Speaker 3: it's like saying, like what sex is your doorknob? You know,
Speaker 3: like there's no way of determining that.
Speaker 4: You know, right, Well, I mean he he made us
Speaker 4: in his image. I think that's kind of what they
Speaker 4: go off of as far as it being a man,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. I mean he made woman too,
Speaker 4: you know, right, Yeah, so a little bit of everything. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I just needed a rib.
Speaker 3: I would like to go into the more esoteric understanding
Speaker 3: of that story.
Speaker 4: Oh, I mean why not?
Speaker 3: I mean, because we did do the Garden of Even
Speaker 3: of Eden, but that was after Eve had already been born,
Speaker 3: So it would be cool to go to the original
Speaker 3: like Adam story, and then maybe we throw in a
Speaker 3: little bit of lilith. I know some people like to
Speaker 3: get a little sketchy with that, but it's not even
Speaker 3: really that sketchy. It's just the Knackamadi like gnostic point
Speaker 3: of view of Adam had somebody turns out she was
Speaker 3: not willing to do as he said or as God commanded.
Speaker 3: That's that's how the story goes. We'll do it one day,
Speaker 3: oh for sure. So to know God is to realize
Speaker 3: these qualities aren't far off traits. They're describing the true
Speaker 3: nature of what's looking out your eyes right now. Mm okay,
Speaker 3: see now this is gonna be this is going to
Speaker 3: be an all inclusive and the main reason why I
Speaker 3: wanted to do this show is because I'm trying to
Speaker 3: bridge the gap. I don't think that we are separate
Speaker 3: from God. I don't think that we are separate from
Speaker 3: the source. I think that right now we're living lives
Speaker 3: as if we are, but we're actually not.
Speaker 4: We literally can't be, Like, it's.
Speaker 3: Impossible for us to ever be separate if it is
Speaker 3: true that God is all of the omnis. That's the
Speaker 3: point that we're trying to make. So, I mean, you know,
Speaker 3: we're gonna get real weird here and hopefully open up
Speaker 3: some eyes. And I don't you know, some people they
Speaker 3: like to get caught up into well, no, it means this, No,
Speaker 3: it means that. No, I'm reading it right here, and
Speaker 3: we have many of different examples about people describing what
Speaker 3: these omnis all mean, and we're going to bring it
Speaker 3: into clear view. That way there can be no discrepancy,
Speaker 3: no disagreement, and we're going to nail down the omnies
Speaker 3: and I believe that by the end of this show,
Speaker 3: we're going to know that we are everything.
Speaker 4: Oh dude, this is an episode I needed, you know
Speaker 4: what I mean, I needed to know me too. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean I kind of already, you know, just with
Speaker 3: a lot of shows that we've been doing, and you know,
Speaker 3: especially Optimistic. He's the one that planted that seed, bro,
Speaker 3: you know, like yeah, because it it. To be honest,
Speaker 3: it kind of sent me spiraling there for a minute.
Speaker 3: But but after sitting with it for a little while,
Speaker 3: I got a little bit more comfortable.
Speaker 4: M No, I definitely I mess with it, dude, because
Speaker 4: you know, I just don't think that that God would
Speaker 4: just be outside of everything and almost because if that
Speaker 4: was the case, I feel like he would have no
Speaker 4: nothing to do with us if he's outside of our realm,
Speaker 4: which is time and space, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: And so I don't know, that just seems off to me.
Speaker 3: I feel like it's strange that God would have he
Speaker 3: would have created people and then created his people, Like
Speaker 3: what does that mean? You know what I'm saying, Because
Speaker 3: there were people here before Adam and Eve were created,
Speaker 3: and so much so that whenever Cain and Abel got
Speaker 3: into that fight and Kane kills Abel, Adam and Eve,
Speaker 3: they cast Cain or there they at least threatened to
Speaker 3: cast him out amongst the others and he's like, no,
Speaker 3: don't do that to him. He don't do it, and
Speaker 3: he's like all scared because maybe they're I don't know,
Speaker 3: maybe they were savages of some sort.
Speaker 4: I have no idea.
Speaker 3: But then but those people are never talked about outside
Speaker 3: of just that little thing, and I'm like, what do
Speaker 3: you mean? God created people and then created his people,
Speaker 3: you know, like to carry out his will, like if
Speaker 3: he's everything. So it's like, I don't know, it's like
Speaker 3: picking what what's your favorite kid?
Speaker 4: You know, It's like, why would you do that? Yeah,
Speaker 4: you can't do that, dude, can't do it. Can't do it.
Speaker 3: So as sue, all right, I'm back on good terms
Speaker 3: with sad Guru. I just want to make that known.
Speaker 3: Oh all right, he well, I haven't talked to him,
Speaker 3: but but I've been consuming a lot since that time, nut,
Speaker 3: since that last time, you know. But but yeah, you know,
Speaker 3: I had a little bit of an issue with what
Speaker 3: he said at the World Economic Forum, and I'm not
Speaker 3: going to go into that, but I've been watching him
Speaker 3: and I'm like, all right, somebody can have a fucked
Speaker 3: up opinion and still be right about a lot of things,
Speaker 3: you know, And I hope that that's how y'all think
Speaker 3: about us too, because I'm sure we're not going to
Speaker 3: align and correlate with every idea that you have of.
Speaker 4: The world, right, Yeah, dude, Well, I just saw something recently,
Speaker 4: a video of his and I don't know when this
Speaker 4: video took place or when it was recorded, but he
Speaker 4: was saying that there is no God, you know, and
Speaker 4: so maybe that's going to tie into what we're going
Speaker 4: to get into, you know, as far as it being
Speaker 4: everything rather than something separate.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, he and I just watched a video of
Speaker 3: him saying something along those lines earlier, that like, look around,
Speaker 3: there's God, you know, like every single thing is God.
Speaker 3: There's no separation. So I actually vibe with that. Some
Speaker 3: people think that it's blasphemous or whatever. It's actually a
Speaker 3: Hindu Buddhist kind of mentality, maybe even a Taoist kind
Speaker 3: of mentality too. They believe basically the same thing about
Speaker 3: the tao But yeah, it's it's not a blasphemous for
Speaker 3: the sake of pissing off people who believe otherwise.
Speaker 4: It's just a difference of opinion, the difference of understanding
Speaker 4: and way to look at the world, you know. I mean,
Speaker 4: I guess I would much rather look at anybody and say, oh,
Speaker 4: that person's divine. You know what I mean, like that
Speaker 4: that is a divine creature or divine specimen, or you
Speaker 4: know what I mean, like that's all of us. It
Speaker 4: makes nobody is less than that.
Speaker 3: I believe that it makes the world more beautiful, It
Speaker 3: makes the world more poetic, It makes the world more meaningful.
Speaker 3: It makes every single action that you take just that
Speaker 3: much more meaningful. Whether we are you know, one massive
Speaker 3: God consciousness or you know, we're living in it. Maybe
Speaker 3: all of this is just a dream inside of God's mind.
Speaker 3: I don't know where to go with it, but it
Speaker 3: definitely seems that this is all happening together and nothing separate.
Speaker 3: Like that makes like, dude, whenever we started going over that,
Speaker 3: I was like, wow, did that just click into place?
Speaker 4: Mm hm, you know, it just makes so much sense. Right.
Speaker 3: So, so, as sad Guru once said, you are not
Speaker 3: a tiny creature in the cosmos. The cosmos is within you.
Speaker 4: Shout out.
Speaker 3: So all right, we're gonna get to We're gonna describe
Speaker 3: a little bit more in detail about omnipresence and omniscience
Speaker 3: and all the other ones. So, but first we're gonna
Speaker 3: get into omnipresence. So in omnipresence, God is everywhere and
Speaker 3: that means here. So let's start with the most accessible
Speaker 3: of the Omni's omnipresence. And we're actually going to pull
Speaker 3: from a from a Bible quote here. This is a
Speaker 3: Psalm one nine by King David or do the slade Goliath?
Speaker 4: Right, Okay?
Speaker 3: So so it says, where shall I free from your presence?
Speaker 3: If I ascend to Heaven, you are there. If I
Speaker 3: make my bed in hell, you are there. Pretty powerful quote. Right,
Speaker 3: God's everywhere. How can I, ever, you know, run and
Speaker 3: hide from you?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 3: There's no hide and seek with God?
Speaker 4: You know what I mean?
Speaker 3: It says this is not poetry, it's a metaphysical truth.
Speaker 3: It's in mystical Judaism. The Kabbalists say this, there is
Speaker 3: no place devoid of him speaking of God, no place
Speaker 3: devoid of God.
Speaker 4: Right. I think what and what it is is it's
Speaker 4: it's not necessarily, uh, you know, God not being in
Speaker 4: a particular place. You know, let's say you're you're going
Speaker 4: through some shit, right, I think it's just the the
Speaker 4: the matter in which you are able to connect with that.
Speaker 4: You know, people fast and people do all these different
Speaker 4: things in order to have a closer connection to whatever
Speaker 4: that is, you know. But you could be going through
Speaker 4: something really and you feel like he's not around, you know,
Speaker 4: but that's just your experience, that's your ability to connect
Speaker 4: with that.
Speaker 3: But even even still, but he's still there, right And
Speaker 3: and not only is he still there, he's the one
Speaker 3: experiencing it, right, you know.
Speaker 4: What I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Like, and that's that's where it's like, holy.
Speaker 4: Shit, that after you go down a little bit.
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, So in Islam, the Qur'an affirms He is
Speaker 3: with you wherever you are. Wherever you are, God's with
Speaker 3: you now. And I don't know what to make of
Speaker 3: all of this.
Speaker 4: What is God?
Speaker 3: I like to think that, you know, maybe there's levels
Speaker 3: of God you get into, like a neoplatonic idea. And
Speaker 3: I think that even even going with the neoplatonic idea,
Speaker 3: you know, with the four stages, like, I think that
Speaker 3: you can put that at a macro scale, with you know,
Speaker 3: the different dimensions and stuff like that, and I think
Speaker 3: that you can also put it at a micro person
Speaker 3: scale as well. And I think that the one would
Speaker 3: be the highest of yourself, so of of of the
Speaker 3: highest self, of the higher self whatever. I think that
Speaker 3: the like the one, every single other thing emanates from
Speaker 3: that ego, mind, feelings, emotion, everything physical, right, Like, I
Speaker 3: think that it could all emanate from that as well,
Speaker 3: from like a microcosmic macrocosmic scale.
Speaker 4: Right. Oh, I like that. I like that. I don't know,
Speaker 4: I could be totally wrong, but I just think about
Speaker 4: this shit way too much. I think we're all a
Speaker 4: little bit right sometimes I think.
Speaker 3: So so so yeah, what are they all pointing to?
Speaker 3: That God is not localized, not far, and not separate.
Speaker 3: The uh dow t Ching expresses this as, and this
Speaker 3: is the quote, the great dow flows everywhere. It may
Speaker 3: go left, it may go right. All things depend on
Speaker 3: it for life. It's an interesting one. So when you
Speaker 3: realize the divine is not in some realm above, but
Speaker 3: infused within all realms, then your entire relationship with reality shifts.
Speaker 3: There's no more searching outside. You are swimming in God.
Speaker 4: Wow, that's the co creation that we've talked about before.
Speaker 4: You know what I mean, it's you and it's and
Speaker 4: it's it's God or universe, it's it's just everything working together,
Speaker 4: you know, in harmony, even if it doesn't seem like it.
Speaker 4: You know, that's the funny thing.
Speaker 3: I like to look at it as a as a
Speaker 3: co creator kind of situation, maybe even call it a
Speaker 3: co pilot.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: So we're actually gonna pull a Jim carry up Jim
Speaker 3: Carrey quote up here right.
Speaker 4: Now, Sarah.
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, Jim Carrey said, I used to believe
Speaker 3: that I was ended at the skin. Now I see
Speaker 3: myself as everything.
Speaker 4: As everything dude, He's definitely had some type of and
Speaker 4: I don't want to, you know, put any kind of
Speaker 4: experience on him, but I imagine he's had some type of
Speaker 4: mind expanding spiritual experience, if you know what I mean. Yeah,
Speaker 4: because he's a completely different person now. Well, he realized,
Speaker 4: you know, it seems like at least in the videos
Speaker 4: that I've seen, that he realized that that even Jim
Speaker 4: Carrey was a character, you know, like not just the
Speaker 4: characters that he played, but Jim Carrey himself was a role. Yeah.
Speaker 4: You know, well, I mean once you add up every
Speaker 4: every experience and every emotion or every everything that you
Speaker 4: you go through, and then you you create this mask,
Speaker 4: and it's like, whoa. He was definitely doing some soul searching,
Speaker 4: you know.
Speaker 3: Oh dude, and think about all of the crazy roles
Speaker 3: that he played. You know, he was the Mask, he
Speaker 3: was from Dumb and Dumber, he was from Liar Liar,
Speaker 3: he was ace Ventura, you know what I mean, Like
Speaker 3: he was the Grinch like all of these like really
Speaker 3: awesome characters. He was the Man on the moon, right,
Speaker 3: like all of these different characters, and he like gave
Speaker 3: himself to every single one of them, like you never
Speaker 3: saw him like half ass.
Speaker 4: A role, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: Like he he took it so serious and so serious
Speaker 3: that he became that personality and that role in his
Speaker 3: real life to be able to stay in that mindset
Speaker 3: and that and that's probably what helped him distance Jim
Speaker 3: Carrey from all of these different roles, from even himself,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. And so there's almost a
Speaker 3: neo platonic idea right there.
Speaker 4: You know, you have I can imagine ahead.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, No, I was gonna say, like you have
Speaker 3: the highest self or just the let's just call it
Speaker 3: the awareness. I know some people don't really like the
Speaker 3: term higher self. That's totally fine. Let's just say the awareness, right,
Speaker 3: so all you are is just the awareness and then
Speaker 3: everything emanating from that. It's like, all right, so you
Speaker 3: go from awareness to now you have this ego. Well no,
Speaker 3: now you have Jim Carrey. Then you have the ego
Speaker 3: of Jim Carrey. Then all of the characters that branch
Speaker 3: off of.
Speaker 4: That, you know what I mean. Yeah, there's like the
Speaker 4: levels you were talking about. Yeah, yeah, so yeah, shout
Speaker 4: out to Jim Carrey. He's a fucking stud.
Speaker 3: So it says omnipresence isn't an idea, it's a mystical revelation.
Speaker 3: There is no outside of God, nothing outside of.
Speaker 4: The time are just an illusion, you know, distance in locality,
Speaker 4: time itself. Oh, it's all right here, and we're going
Speaker 4: to be getting scientific at the end of the show.
Speaker 4: I love it for the people that, you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I like you know, because I know that there's
Speaker 3: people from all different uh you know, countries and religious
Speaker 3: understandings and family upbringings and traditions, and so I want
Speaker 3: everybody to be able to vibe with this kind of conversation.
Speaker 3: So that's why we like bring you know, the different
Speaker 3: religious views or the different philosophical views or even the
Speaker 3: scientific views. Everybody can get down with at least one
Speaker 3: of those three.
Speaker 4: Oh right, absolutely, absolutely.
Speaker 3: Otherwise you just wouldn't be listening to the show, right,
Speaker 3: you know you you volunteered for this you know, right, yeah,
Speaker 3: if you're listening, literally literally volunteered for this life as well,
Speaker 3: I think yes, I think so too. So now we're
Speaker 3: going to get to omniscience and the it says the infinite,
Speaker 3: the infinite knowing that knows you. It almost sounds spooky
Speaker 3: when you put it like that, But I don't think
Speaker 3: it's spooky at all.
Speaker 4: No, I don't think so at all. I've had an
Speaker 4: experience to where I felt like the the all knowing
Speaker 4: was just was just kind of watching me, you know
Speaker 4: what I mean, Like I almost snapped out of like
Speaker 4: I came out of a sleep, but I was like
Speaker 4: in meditation almost, and it just looked like a bunch
Speaker 4: of little eyeballs just like just observing me. You know,
Speaker 4: I'm like, what's that? Maybe that's what that is, dude,
Speaker 4: that might be That might maybe I'm just crazy.
Speaker 3: That could just be your mind trying to make sense
Speaker 3: of something too. You know that the mind is a
Speaker 3: freaky ass place. It is weird, dude, And like you know,
Speaker 3: I've said this before, but I'm not somebody who ever
Speaker 3: particularly feels lonely. I've only ever felt lonely two times
Speaker 3: in my life, and one of those was from a
Speaker 3: d MT trip like that was that was as lonely
Speaker 3: as lonely gets as being alone in the void. But
Speaker 3: and then there was another time. But that's more personal thing.
Speaker 4: But I'm trying to not.
Speaker 3: Be so personal on this show about expressing all the
Speaker 3: different facets of my life because i know people probably
Speaker 3: don't give a shit about that.
Speaker 4: Everybody else got their own stuff going on. So well,
Speaker 4: not only that, but some things are just for you,
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Speaker 4: But it's like you also need to keep some of
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Speaker 3: I think the thing is is that I've never been
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Speaker 4: There it is.
Speaker 3: So that being said, we're gonna get over to omnisciens.
Speaker 3: So now we're gonna turn over to omniscients the idea
Speaker 3: that the divine knows all things. But let's go deeper.
Speaker 3: God doesn't know everything about you. God knows you by
Speaker 3: being you. Mm hmm okay, that's the infinite knowing. There's
Speaker 3: no other way to infinitely know every single thing about
Speaker 3: someone rather than being that someone, Like that's the best way.
Speaker 4: And that's why, you know, when you when you kind
Speaker 4: of tap into your higher self, you know, let's say,
Speaker 4: because because you always want to figure yourself out more.
Speaker 4: You know, we're are we so distracted with shit and
Speaker 4: you get a hold of your higher self. That's the
Speaker 4: the the whatever, that is the divine spark, the divine
Speaker 4: you that knows everything about you, you know, and is
Speaker 4: able to bring forward, uh, bring forth things from your
Speaker 4: subconscious or or whatever for you to to observe, you know,
Speaker 4: so you can understand that better. You know, like that's perfect.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it makes the most sense whenever you frame
Speaker 3: it that way, you know. And even like in the Bible,
Speaker 3: for example, in the Bible, God says I am the Alpha.
Speaker 4: And the Omega.
Speaker 3: So it's the beginning of the Greek alphabet to the
Speaker 3: end of the grief Greek alphabet. Right, that means I'm everything.
Speaker 3: That's what that means. Right, Like, how can you say
Speaker 3: I am the beginning and the end and not be everything?
Speaker 4: That doesn't make sense everything in between.
Speaker 3: Right, right? And even in the Baghava Geza, I just
Speaker 3: bought that.
Speaker 4: Book here recently.
Speaker 3: Actually, your boy Krishna says, I am the self seated
Speaker 3: in the heart of all beings. I am the beginning,
Speaker 3: the middle, and the end of all. And a lot
Speaker 3: of people like to compare Krishna and Christ. They believe
Speaker 3: that the term Christ comes from Krishna. I mean, I
Speaker 3: don't know what first, what came first, chicken or the
Speaker 3: egg kind of situation.
Speaker 4: Right there. We have the same birthday too, Maybe I'm
Speaker 4: wrong about that.
Speaker 3: There are and I can't remember what Christiana's birthday was,
Speaker 3: but there are yees several people who just so happen
Speaker 3: to be born on the winter solstice. Yeah, right, so,
Speaker 3: and then they always just rise back up three days later,
Speaker 3: as it's almost as if they're watching the sky and
Speaker 3: watching the sun playouts itself every year.
Speaker 4: Do with that what you will do with that as
Speaker 4: you will.
Speaker 3: So this isn't a metaphor, it's nondual philosophy. And then
Speaker 3: in Vedanta, God isn't watching you like big brother God
Speaker 3: is the awareness that you call I I am? Dude, Yeah,
Speaker 3: I am. And it's like you don't even need to
Speaker 3: finish the sentence. If all you're saying is I am.
Speaker 3: You have to be everything. That's it, you know, like
Speaker 3: you like even to say that I am everything, you
Speaker 3: might be leaving out a couple of things, you know,
Speaker 3: like because what if it's this, and what if it's that,
Speaker 3: and what if we're talking about in another dimension? Whereas
Speaker 3: if you just leave it at I am, it's like, oh,
Speaker 3: you know, there's no separation. Yeah, Alan Watts said it beautifully.
Speaker 3: We've mentioned this one before. You are an aperture through
Speaker 3: which the universe is looking at and exploring itself. Like
Speaker 3: we said, call it God, called the universe, call it
Speaker 3: the source, call it whatever you want. It's all the
Speaker 3: same thing whenever it's referenced in this kind of way.
Speaker 3: You know, yep, souh yeah, we got Alan Watts. It
Speaker 3: says when you have a thought, God knows it, not
Speaker 3: by hearing it, but because your consciousness is God's awareness
Speaker 3: filtered through your unique mind.
Speaker 4: That's an interesting way of looking at it, right, Yeah. Man?
Speaker 3: How about your boy Platinus, you know, the guy that
Speaker 3: came after Plato right created neoplatonism.
Speaker 4: Platinus.
Speaker 3: Then neoplatonists said, the one is not aware of things
Speaker 3: as separate.
Speaker 4: It knows them because they are within it. And it
Speaker 4: is that, and it is that.
Speaker 3: Dolores Cannon, who regress thousands of people into higher states
Speaker 3: of consciousness, often heard the same thing. She says, you
Speaker 3: are never disconnected from source. You are source. Pretending to
Speaker 3: forget that shit too, dude, RP.
Speaker 4: Dolores.
Speaker 3: One of the best so to be omniscient is not
Speaker 3: to be a watcher of data. It's to be the
Speaker 3: mind behind all minds, the knower behind all knowings. And
Speaker 3: when you feel that within yourself, you're no longer just
Speaker 3: a person. You are an aspect of the all.
Speaker 4: Remember when you remember when we were having our little
Speaker 4: trip and I was like, what if it's only an
Speaker 4: illusion that we even have our own mind? You know, like,
Speaker 4: and when I first said it was like even kind
Speaker 4: of creep me out a little bit, and it was
Speaker 4: a little too much at the time. But I don't know, man,
Speaker 4: that's kind of kind of rhymes, I think, kind of true.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, well, it's almost like like each individual thought,
Speaker 3: like think about it like this. Imagine each individual thought
Speaker 3: believed that it was independent of all thought. Mmm, like, no,
Speaker 3: you're a thought, that's what you are, right, Like you
Speaker 3: came from the mind. That's same thing, same exact thing,
Speaker 3: if you just look yourself like a thought. And even
Speaker 3: remember in the Bible and other places, God thought about
Speaker 3: it and then he spoke about it, right, and so
Speaker 3: just wild shit.
Speaker 4: I just love thinking about this kind of stuff.
Speaker 3: So where where we are right now, we're going to
Speaker 3: get to omnipotence. So all power because because all being interesting.
Speaker 4: Way of looking at it, says, let's talk.
Speaker 3: Omnipotence often misunderstood as the ability to do anything like
Speaker 3: a cosmic tyrant with cheat codes, but real omnipotence is
Speaker 3: not control over others. It's being everything that exists. The
Speaker 3: Gospel of Thomas from the Nagamati with the Gnostics. The
Speaker 3: Gospel of Thomas has Jesus saying, this is your boy,
Speaker 3: Jesus saying this quote here. Now, if you bring forth
Speaker 3: what is within you, you bring forth, what you bring
Speaker 3: forth will save you. If you do not, it will
Speaker 3: destroy you. We've said that once.
Speaker 4: Yep, equally powerful in both directions.
Speaker 3: Yes, it's the force. It is the force. This is
Speaker 3: the power of creation within you. The same power that
Speaker 3: made galaxies is what animates your imagination.
Speaker 4: Ah, that's cool, your boy.
Speaker 3: Meister Eckhart once wrote, God is infinite in his simplicity.
Speaker 3: All things are in him, and He in all things.
Speaker 3: Now he was actually meister Eckert, I believe. I think
Speaker 3: he was Jewish or something along those lines. Let's check
Speaker 3: that out because and I've I've read so many quotes
Speaker 3: from him, but I just want to make sure that
Speaker 3: that's meister Eckhart.
Speaker 4: And you might have just been a sage of sorts.
Speaker 3: I don't know, all right, Meister Eckart claimed the original
Speaker 3: name Johannes Eckhart was a German Catholic priest.
Speaker 4: There we go.
Speaker 3: OK, so he was a Catholic priest, a theol Logen,
Speaker 3: a philosopher and a mystic. He said, God is infinite
Speaker 3: in his simplicity. All things are in him, and he
Speaker 3: in all things, all things, not not a couple of things,
Speaker 3: not this and not that, No, all things, like including
Speaker 3: the animals, right, including like pre thought, you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying, Like, you know, because our mind works. We
Speaker 3: have sixty thousand thoughts a day. Sometimes they stem together.
Speaker 3: Sometimes you have this thought earlier in the day and
Speaker 3: it aligns with the next thought later on, and so
Speaker 3: now you have that pre thought that was working with
Speaker 3: this current thought that.
Speaker 4: You're you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: It gets really weird. So m in Buddhism, form and
Speaker 3: emptiness are one. Energy is not controlled from afar. It
Speaker 3: is the ever present becoming. Oh shit, the ever present becoming.
Speaker 3: It says. Science even echoes this. Now, quant some physics
Speaker 3: shows that that matter doesn't end. Quotes exist until it's
Speaker 3: observed your consciousness collapses waves into reality, which is interesting
Speaker 3: because they that's what they say that like, it's like
Speaker 3: does the back of my room exist if I'm not
Speaker 3: looking at it or if.
Speaker 4: I'm not aware of it?
Speaker 3: Right, And it seems like a silly quote because of
Speaker 3: course it does.
Speaker 4: There's no way it doesn't. But there's no way to
Speaker 4: know that. Yeah, I mean there's no way. It's like
Speaker 4: if a tree falls in the woods type of thing.
Speaker 4: I see what you're saying. Yeah, right, right, But of
Speaker 4: course it exists because if God or the universe or
Speaker 4: the One or whatever it was thought it, then it exists,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. I don't think it ever
Speaker 4: goes into a state of non existence, but just because
Speaker 4: we're not being aware of it.
Speaker 3: I think the point that it's trying to make is
Speaker 3: that God's awareness is essentially the tool that renders everything
Speaker 3: that's all around.
Speaker 4: Right, kind of like that one dude was I forget
Speaker 4: his name, God damn it, the guy that was talking
Speaker 4: about the he wrote the Big Toe or whatever he
Speaker 4: was on Joe Rogan My Big Toe. He's talking about
Speaker 4: like your consciousness or your awareness is what creates the universe. Basically,
Speaker 4: like when you stare into the universe, it's and it's
Speaker 4: now being rendered because your awareness is observing it, you know,
Speaker 4: and it's it's collapsing and becoming in that moment. Oh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: it's It's such a trip, dude.
Speaker 3: Whenever you start going down in here, and this is
Speaker 3: why so many people they have to have like a
Speaker 3: dark Knight of the Soul kind of situation because it's like, well,
Speaker 3: how because if it's this, then how can it be that?
Speaker 3: Or how is it not that?
Speaker 4: Oh? By the way, the author of that is Thomas Campbell.
Speaker 4: Thomas Campbell there he is. Yeah, that that episode was
Speaker 4: pretty interesting.
Speaker 3: That show fucked hard. So and to pull up another
Speaker 3: quote for sad Guru, sad Guru says, if you know
Speaker 3: how to be still, the whole existence becomes yours.
Speaker 4: So true.
Speaker 3: Omnipotence isn't domination, it's divine participation, the power to be anything.
Speaker 4: Our meditation is so awesome, dude. I think that's when
Speaker 4: we get the biggest hint of that. You go into
Speaker 4: that space, dude, you know, that's when you really get
Speaker 4: a chance to observe that or experience it just a
Speaker 4: little bit.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, it's it's and it's so hard to describe
Speaker 3: because you don't even know where you are in all
Speaker 3: of that. But it's not even a matter of where
Speaker 3: you are and how can you get there, it's a
Speaker 3: matter of understanding that like whenever you go into a meditation,
Speaker 3: you're all of that, you know, and and it's amazing
Speaker 3: how we know within meditation we are all of that.
Speaker 3: And some people that's why they don't like meditation because
Speaker 3: they're like, I'm just making it up and it's just
Speaker 3: my imagination. It's like, yeah, not really, because if you
Speaker 3: know how to silence your mind and get to that
Speaker 3: deep meditation and then you look around and you observe, dude,
Speaker 3: you like, it's not even a question. You know that
Speaker 3: you're all of that, right like, and it's like you're
Speaker 3: all of that. You're not limited to anything, you don't
Speaker 3: have any form and that it's all your personal experience,
Speaker 3: so it has to be you mm hmm.
Speaker 4: Well, I think it's interesting when you do when you
Speaker 4: create a world in your own mind, Like you can
Speaker 4: create an entire landscape and look off into the distance
Speaker 4: and really see all of the details of the trunk
Speaker 4: of a tree without any real effort, you know, And
Speaker 4: so just to think about it that way, you know,
Speaker 4: you can literally create your own world in your mind.
Speaker 4: I mean, isn't how different is that from the one
Speaker 4: itself creating everything? You know? Yeah, I mean it's so
Speaker 4: easy to do, I mean, once you get into it.
Speaker 3: Oh and think about like, you know, we are made
Speaker 3: in his image. People think that like made in his image.
Speaker 3: Oh okay, maybe God looks like me, or maybe God
Speaker 3: thought about me. But what if we were made in
Speaker 3: God's imagination and that's what the image is, is that
Speaker 3: we are literally God's imagination. And if that's the case,
Speaker 3: then it makes sense that a thought can't be separate
Speaker 3: from the mind itself.
Speaker 4: Right God just meditating and being like, well, what is
Speaker 4: this shit? You know I just got doing right now.
Speaker 4: I just got half a chub off of that one
Speaker 4: right there. So now we're going to go into oneness
Speaker 4: and then we're going to bring it all together. There's
Speaker 4: a lot more we got to get into, but we're
Speaker 4: kind of just going over each of these individually. So
Speaker 4: oneness the veil has always been an illusion. So if
Speaker 4: God is everywhere, knows all things, and is power, then
Speaker 4: there can't be anything besides God.
Speaker 3: This is the mystery of oneness. Uh. This is a
Speaker 3: quote from the Gospel of Thomas. Split a piece of
Speaker 3: wood and I am there. Lift a stone and you
Speaker 3: will find me.
Speaker 4: Mm.
Speaker 3: That's a that's a Jesus quote as a matter of fact.
Speaker 3: But you know, because Jesus I am the father of
Speaker 3: one of the same kind of thing. That's what Jesus
Speaker 3: was trying to fucking say this whole time. You know,
Speaker 3: I mean, in our beliefs, or in my beliefs at least,
Speaker 3: is that he was like, look, yeah, this right here
Speaker 3: is just flesh. But once you get to know God
Speaker 3: or the Father or the Source or whatever that's inside
Speaker 3: of you, you become that, and you become that that
Speaker 3: singular awareness. And you know, they say, I don't want
Speaker 3: to get too far into the whole you know what
Speaker 3: Jesus believed, because people are gonna people have differing beliefs
Speaker 3: on that whole thing.
Speaker 4: But if you read the the.
Speaker 3: What was it called the Lost Gospel of q yep,
Speaker 3: the Lost Gospel of q or the Nagamadi.
Speaker 4: I don't care what people say about it.
Speaker 3: They say, oh, it was written by the Gnostics and
Speaker 3: they were just a bunch of crazies, or they just
Speaker 3: hated Christianity and they wanted to make their own form.
Speaker 3: If anybody actually sits down to read it, you'll be like,
Speaker 3: oh my god, it vibes, it makes sense. Why do
Speaker 3: I feel like I already know this?
Speaker 4: Mm hmm, Yeah, there's got to be a little something
Speaker 4: to it when it when it resonates that much, you know,
Speaker 4: you know, we went over a lot of that and
Speaker 4: it doesn't seem like there's anything in there that's just like, oh,
Speaker 4: what the fuck? They are a bunch of crazies. You know.
Speaker 4: That wasn't the the vibe that I got, not at all.
Speaker 3: How can we be so familiar with something that we're
Speaker 3: reading for the first time, right, it doesn't make sense?
Speaker 4: Yeah? No, you know.
Speaker 3: So yeah, so split a piece of wood. I am there,
Speaker 3: lift a stone, and you will find me. That's not
Speaker 3: a metaphor. That's a metaphysical instruction. So now we're going
Speaker 3: to get to the advet I'm gonna butcher this Adveta Vedanta,
Speaker 3: but this is from Esha Upanashad, so probably Hindu, I'm guessing.
Speaker 3: It says he who sees all beings in his self,
Speaker 3: and his self in all beings never turns away.
Speaker 4: That one right there, that's super powerful. That's super powerful.
Speaker 4: I think I told you this story before where I
Speaker 4: came out of a gas station, you know, and I
Speaker 4: didn't know any of these people, but I had that
Speaker 4: feeling like, oh, like I'm a part of all of
Speaker 4: this and they're a part of me and we're all
Speaker 4: just this one thing. And man, it was such a
Speaker 4: good feeling. Man. I was just like overwhelmed with like
Speaker 4: this sense of I don't know if it was happiness
Speaker 4: or if it was just love or I don't know
Speaker 4: what it was do but it was just felt good,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. And I didn't know any
Speaker 4: of these people, dude, and I wasn't doing anything spectacular,
Speaker 4: but it was just this. And it hasn't really happened
Speaker 4: a whole lot since you would think experiencing something like that,
Speaker 4: you would just be like, oh, I got it figured out,
Speaker 4: you know, I can just do this all the time.
Speaker 3: But well, and that's why they say, that's why they
Speaker 3: say that meditation is so important, because it keeps you
Speaker 3: almost in that dream state of looking at all of
Speaker 3: reality reality that way. You know, it's only whenever we
Speaker 3: succumb to this like material plane that you know, oh
Speaker 3: I'm this or I don't like that, or I don't
Speaker 3: like that person, or I love that person or I
Speaker 3: like that thing, and it's like then you become more
Speaker 3: of an individual. But whenever you're in that dream like
Speaker 3: state of being in the fate of mind, the theate
Speaker 3: of mind. It's like, dude, of course, there's no separation, Like,
Speaker 3: it's so easy to swallow to think that. And oh,
Speaker 3: by the way, that that Isha upon a shot it
Speaker 3: is hindu It's one of the ancient Sanskrit scriptures of Hinduism.
Speaker 4: Oh okay, nice, I'd like to know when that was,
Speaker 4: when that was written. I think that'd be pretty fun.
Speaker 3: So now we're gonna go to your boy. Herme's trisma
Speaker 3: just said this God is an infinite sphere whose center
Speaker 3: is everywhere and circumference is nowhere. Whoa hermis was way
Speaker 3: to look at it, right, hermeis was definitely on it.
Speaker 4: The center read that part again, the center is.
Speaker 3: The God or God is an infinite sphere whose center
Speaker 3: is everywhere and circumference is nowhere.
Speaker 4: That actually really lines up with what I was watching,
Speaker 4: uh not too long ago about the Big Bang, you know,
Speaker 4: and and it was basically saying that if this single
Speaker 4: point of almost nothingness expanded into everything, that there isn't
Speaker 4: necessarily a center of the universe because it's everything. Whatever
Speaker 4: was at the center is now everywhere and everything exactly
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. Yeah, so you're at the center.
Speaker 4: I'm at the center no matter where we are, and
Speaker 4: so when that sense distance in locality would kind of
Speaker 4: be an illusion exactly. Huh yeah, Yeah, that's cool.
Speaker 3: All Right, We're gonna bring up another quote by your boy,
Speaker 3: Jim Carrey one mogain. All right, Jim Carrey said, I
Speaker 3: have no limits. I cannot be contained because I am.
Speaker 4: Everything makes sense. You just are.
Speaker 3: So this is not ego. It's ego death. It's the
Speaker 3: realization that you are a mask worn by the infinite,
Speaker 3: and so is everyone else. There is no you versus God.
Speaker 3: There is only God playing the part of you.
Speaker 4: Wow. That's that's pretty powerful, dude, talking about the ego.
Speaker 4: The more the more ego driven you are, the more
Speaker 4: the more separate or the more not of almost you
Speaker 4: know what I mean. Like you're you're almost creating your
Speaker 4: own thing outside of whatever all of this is.
Speaker 3: And people and this is where people get it like
Speaker 3: really lost in the sauce because people believe that they
Speaker 3: are the ego and that the ego is them. But
Speaker 3: once you can really pull it together and you know
Speaker 3: for a fact that like the ego is just a personality,
Speaker 3: it's just a mask. It's just like a bunch of
Speaker 3: things that have happened to me, and it's created this
Speaker 3: personality that I am, But I am something beyond that personality, right,
Speaker 3: And when you put it in those terms, who's going
Speaker 3: to disagree with that?
Speaker 4: Now? You truly have no limitation of what you could be.
Speaker 4: You know, right now you're not sitting there like a
Speaker 4: conductor or like a director trying to make sure you
Speaker 4: stay within the bounds of whatever other people might think
Speaker 4: you should be, or or the version of yourself you
Speaker 4: think you should be. It's like, no, no, I'm your everything,
Speaker 4: so you might as well just what do you want
Speaker 4: to be?
Speaker 3: Yeah, It's like from that movie Anger Management with Jack
Speaker 3: Nicholson and Adams Handler.
Speaker 4: Not seeing that dude. Really that's one of those ones
Speaker 4: that like I'll see it. I'm like, I haven't seen that,
Speaker 4: and then I'll just scroll past it. But I knew
Speaker 4: I was slipping. It's it's a really good one.
Speaker 3: But even in Anger Management you have Jack Nicholson and
Speaker 3: he's talking to Adam Sandler and he's like, who are you?
Speaker 3: And Adam Sandler's like, you know, I'm this, you know
Speaker 3: I have this job and you know I've I grew
Speaker 3: up with this and you know, these are my beliefs
Speaker 3: and maybe these are my kids or this is my wife,
Speaker 3: and that's who I am. And he goes, no, no, no,
Speaker 3: who are you? And he just keeps on asking, and
Speaker 3: Adam Sandler's.
Speaker 4: Just God damn it, that's who I you know, just
Speaker 4: going crazy as he does.
Speaker 3: But it's like, yeah, you're not just the character that
Speaker 3: you've been creating and molding this entire life. And the
Speaker 3: beautiful thing is is that there's nothing wrong with that character,
Speaker 3: nothing wrong with that avatar. This was you know, a
Speaker 3: series of events that led to this personality of Sean
Speaker 3: or this you know, this character, this avatar of Jonathan whatever. Right,
Speaker 3: it's there's nothing wrong with that. You just can't forget
Speaker 3: that that's not all you are.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Actually, just recently somebody was asking me that that
Speaker 4: same question, you know, and he's like, who are you?
Speaker 4: And I was like, I sat there and just kind
Speaker 4: of paused for a minute because I already knew that
Speaker 4: anything that I said, and like, oh, well, you know,
Speaker 4: I'm a married man and I'm my name is Sean,
Speaker 4: and I have I already knew that wasn't what they
Speaker 4: were trying to get to, and so I was like, fuck,
Speaker 4: I don't know, you know, you know, I don't even
Speaker 4: want to start saying stuff because I know it's not
Speaker 4: going to be right. Just say I am everything everything. Yeah,
Speaker 4: now I know I got the answer. Now they probably
Speaker 4: won't like that, I think, But anyways.
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, teach their own You don't ask
Speaker 3: somebody like I don't like asking a question to somebody
Speaker 3: in hopes that they're going to answer the way that
Speaker 3: I want them.
Speaker 4: Tom, that's so dumb. Why even ask a question in
Speaker 4: the first place. The waste of time, Yeah, waste.
Speaker 3: So all right, now we're going to get to the
Speaker 3: coexist type of idea here, not just a bumper sticker,
Speaker 3: but a cosmic truth.
Speaker 4: Oh right.
Speaker 3: When people say coexist, they usually mean don't kill each
Speaker 3: other over beliefs, which is valid. But what if it
Speaker 3: means much more. The Star of David is not separate
Speaker 3: from the om symbol, the Star of David being a
Speaker 3: Jewish thing. Oh, obviously everybody knows that is. The crescent,
Speaker 3: moon and cross are not rival flags. They are symbols
Speaker 3: of the same one, peeking through through different cultures. The
Speaker 3: atom and the yin yang, both expressions of the infinite
Speaker 3: dance of polarity and unity. In truth, these aren't religions,
Speaker 3: they're languages codes for the same divine pattern. As Rumy
Speaker 3: once wrote, you are not a drop in the ocean.
Speaker 3: You are the entire ocean in a drop. That's where
Speaker 3: it came from.
Speaker 4: Huh.
Speaker 3: We say that one all the time, never know where
Speaker 3: the hell it comes from.
Speaker 4: So true though, yeah it is.
Speaker 3: And even as your boy Neil de Grasse Tyson says,
Speaker 3: I mean, think of him what you want whatever.
Speaker 4: I know, but you're telling yourself that I know.
Speaker 3: I know, I'm having a conversation my homelind with that one.
Speaker 3: But sometimes that's what I'm trying to say. I don't
Speaker 3: like to throw the entirety of of everything that somebody
Speaker 3: says out just because I disagree with them wholeheartedly on most.
Speaker 4: Things, especially especially when you're dealing with Mostly what you're
Speaker 4: dealing with is someone's ego anyways, for the most part.
Speaker 4: I mean, that's what they want to show you, you know,
Speaker 4: And so what you see in probably the parts of
Speaker 4: him that you don't like, that's that's all you're seeing,
Speaker 4: is the you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Oh, they all have they all have the namasay inside
Speaker 3: of them.
Speaker 4: That's it.
Speaker 3: You know, everybody got the divine spark or you know,
Speaker 3: God or whatever flowing through their veins. It's like, you know, then,
Speaker 3: of course, like you said, there's the ego that lays
Speaker 3: on top of that, and you might not like the ego,
Speaker 3: but that's fine. The ego, you know, it kind of
Speaker 3: is the unclean rag at that point. But as Neil
Speaker 3: deGrasse Tyson said, we are Stardust. The universe is not
Speaker 3: only around us, it is in us, which makes sense.
Speaker 4: M Now, pretty interesting, right, how even science is like, well, yeah,
Speaker 4: it is everything.
Speaker 3: We are everything, right, and even like to the point
Speaker 3: of that idea, it's like, oh, you know, we live
Speaker 3: on Earth and everything outside of us is the universe.
Speaker 3: It's like, right, no, we're in the universe. There is
Speaker 3: no We're not separate from the rest of the universe.
Speaker 4: And that's pretty interesting. How how that's so easy to do?
Speaker 4: Like I definitely feel like I've come from that mentality,
Speaker 4: Like I definitely felt like, oh, well, here we are
Speaker 4: on Earth and everything else is everything else, and we
Speaker 4: get to observe outward. But it's like, oh, we are
Speaker 4: in that thing. We are that drop in that mass
Speaker 4: eve ocean.
Speaker 3: Whatever the universe may be consisted of. I don't know
Speaker 3: what to believe, to be honest, but it's something. I
Speaker 3: don't know what it is. It's something. But that's that's
Speaker 3: save for the conspiracy channel. Yeah, and it's everywhere, and
Speaker 3: it's it's not here, not there, but everywhere. So now
Speaker 3: we're going to reinforce all of this with biblical quotes
Speaker 3: that express each of the divine omni attributes omnipresence, omniscience, omnipotence,
Speaker 3: and oneness slash unity from both the Old and New Testaments,
Speaker 3: so the entirety of the Bible. These verses will help
Speaker 3: you bridge the mystical truths across all traditions, while showing
Speaker 3: that even Christianity at its deepest level, affirms this message
Speaker 3: that God is everything, There is nothing outside of God,
Speaker 3: and we are in God because we.
Speaker 4: Are of God. This should be good, all right.
Speaker 3: So now we're going to get to the omnis According
Speaker 3: to the Bible, omnipresence, God is everywhere. Am I a
Speaker 3: God at hand saith the Lord? And not a god
Speaker 3: afar off? Can I can any hide himself in secret
Speaker 3: places that I shall not see? Him, Do I do
Speaker 3: not I feel heaven and earth saith the Lord. I'm everywhere.
Speaker 3: He says, whither whither shall I go from Thy spirit?
Speaker 3: And whither shall I free flee from Thy presence? If
Speaker 3: I ascend up into Heaven, thou art there. If I
Speaker 3: make my bed in Hell, behold thou art there. So,
Speaker 3: when we were saying it earlier that like God absolutely
Speaker 3: has to exist in hell, if he exists everywhere, that's
Speaker 3: an interest thought. That's not a blasphemous quote. That's literally
Speaker 3: what it says. This is from the book of Psalms.
Speaker 3: But yeah, he's everywhere.
Speaker 4: Right. Another ultimately he created Hell as well, right or
Speaker 4: or whatever it was that eventually created Hell had to
Speaker 4: have right.
Speaker 3: Had to Yeah. So another one is from Proverbs. It
Speaker 3: says the eyes of the Lord are in every place,
Speaker 3: keeping watch on the evil and the good. So, I mean,
Speaker 3: if we're saying that God is omnipresent, there's no place
Speaker 3: that God isn't. Of course he would be keeping an
Speaker 3: eye on the evil and the good. Now we're going
Speaker 3: to get to omnisciens. God knows all. This is from Psalms.
Speaker 3: Great is our Lord, and of great power. His understanding
Speaker 3: is infinite. The next one is from the Book of John.
Speaker 3: For if our heart condemn us, God is greater than
Speaker 3: our heart, and knoweth all things greater than our heart.
Speaker 4: That's pretty interesting.
Speaker 3: The next one known unto God are all his works
Speaker 3: from the beginning of the world. That's from Acts and
Speaker 3: one final one. Oh Lord, thou hast searched me and
Speaker 3: known me. Thou knowest my downsitting and mine uprising, Thou understandest, understandest, Okay,
Speaker 3: my thought afar off basically saying that like, whether you're
Speaker 3: here in the physical reality or here in my mind
Speaker 3: or here in my heart, you are everywhere.
Speaker 4: Mm hmm. And that makes so much more sense to
Speaker 4: like thinking about it this way rather than this this
Speaker 4: one being or this one entity that just knows everything.
Speaker 4: He's just it's more so that he experiences it with you,
Speaker 4: you know, through through your own eyes. And that's not
Speaker 4: to say that you that you're a god, you know,
Speaker 4: because I think that that puts a bad taste in
Speaker 4: people's mouth, you know, like, oh, you're a god, you know,
Speaker 4: And we've gone over this a lot, but it's it's no,
Speaker 4: it's more than that, you.
Speaker 3: Know, you're not a god, you are God. You're an
Speaker 3: expression of God, you are an instance of God. You're
Speaker 3: an example of God. Everybody is. It's not to say that,
Speaker 3: you know, and there are definitely people out there that
Speaker 3: try and become their own Gods, and that's not right.
Speaker 3: But that's not That is so far off from what
Speaker 3: we're saying. What we're saying is is that there absolutely
Speaker 3: is no separation from God. And to say that that
Speaker 3: is blasphemous. I would call that mental retardation if you
Speaker 3: have a disagreement with that, because literally, even in the
Speaker 3: Bible and across all the different religious books as we're
Speaker 3: going to get to, they all say the same thing.
Speaker 3: It can't be he's everywhere but not right here. He's
Speaker 3: not with me, he's not in me. It's like, no,
Speaker 3: if he's everywhere, he's.
Speaker 4: Everywhere right and he can't just choose not to be
Speaker 4: with you. If he's omnipresent and he's everywhere.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So yeah, and and and the thing is is
Speaker 3: that you exist as ah what's the term? Maybe as
Speaker 3: a spark of that, we're not saying that us individually
Speaker 3: are every single well, I don't even want to say that,
Speaker 3: because I think that we kind of are everything. We yeah,
Speaker 3: it's the divine paradox. It's that you know, you are
Speaker 3: everything and you are nothing like you as in the
Speaker 3: human of course, just like optimistic said, it's like you
Speaker 3: are the human you as a human in the vastness
Speaker 3: of the universe and the multiple different galaxies and all
Speaker 3: the different dimensions. Yes, you are but a piss ant
Speaker 3: on the back of a donkey's ass, right, but that's
Speaker 3: not to limit even the piss ant on the back
Speaker 3: of the donkey's ass, because you're also that you know so,
Speaker 3: and even from that, it's like you're the atom that
Speaker 3: eventually expanded into everything if you believe that God, you.
Speaker 4: Know, was the big bang right right now. I really actually,
Speaker 4: I really like that that notion. As far as you know,
Speaker 4: God knows everything about you because he's experiencing it with
Speaker 4: you almost you know what I mean if you want
Speaker 4: to put it that way, not even with you as
Speaker 4: you like.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like, I think that it's such an intermingling that
Speaker 3: it has to be. Like even if you think about
Speaker 3: like the Trinity, for example, you know, God, the Sun,
Speaker 3: and the Holy Spirit, right, like those are three separate things,
Speaker 3: but essentially a strand of three separate things that are
Speaker 3: winding into the same rope, right, you know what I mean,
Speaker 3: and they're all working congruently. So, yes, there is the
Speaker 3: ego version of us. We're separate, I mean seemingly separate.
Speaker 3: And then there's the God strand that is also woven
Speaker 3: within us. And let's just say we only have two strands.
Speaker 3: That's not God is with you, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: That's that's God is you and experiencing life as you.
Speaker 3: And then there's also you with that hmm.
Speaker 4: Right, and then you're also sitting there trying to look
Speaker 4: for it. Yeah for some reason. Yeah, it's the paradox.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: That's the beauty of this life is that there is
Speaker 3: no oh like like you can't just win it, you know,
Speaker 3: like you just have to keep on going every day
Speaker 3: and keep on going on that divine search and keep
Speaker 3: on trying to understand where you came from and who's
Speaker 3: ruling all of this and in everything, right, and then eventually,
Speaker 3: you know, the the era starts to point back at you.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because it has to. Yeah, dude, that's cool. I
Speaker 4: like that.
Speaker 3: So all right, now let's get over to omnipotence. As
Speaker 3: far as the Bible's concerned. God is all powerful. So
Speaker 3: this is a quote from Jeremiah. And some of these
Speaker 3: are like that super old like King Jamesian type of English,
Speaker 3: which h I'm gonna do my best to interpret them.
Speaker 4: All right, man, I'll do my best to understand what
Speaker 4: you're saying, all right.
Speaker 3: So this is from Jeremiah. Every time I see Jeremiah,
Speaker 3: I think of that song. I thought, I told you
Speaker 3: I'm a star. You see that lights I see? Anyway,
Speaker 3: I love this, so Jeremiah said. Or in the Book
Speaker 3: of Jeremiah it says, behold, I am the Lord, the
Speaker 3: God of all flesh. Is there anything too hard for me?
Speaker 3: Pretty badass? I think that speaks for itself. I don't
Speaker 3: even need to really break that one down. The next
Speaker 3: one is from Book of Matthew. It says, with God,
Speaker 3: all things are possible, of course, ye. Next one is
Speaker 3: from Chronicles. It says, Thine, O Lord, is the greatest
Speaker 3: and the power, and the glory and the victory and
Speaker 3: the majesty. For all that is in heaven and in
Speaker 3: earth is thine. Thine is the Kingdom, O Lord, and
Speaker 3: Thou art exalted as head above all all right, kind
Speaker 3: of speaks for itself there so yeah, thine, it's I.
Speaker 4: Believe, isn't thine? Doesn't that mean mine? I don't know this? Yeah,
Speaker 4: what does?
Speaker 3: We're all learning in real time here too, That's all
Speaker 3: we always say. We don't know, we don't know where
Speaker 3: the student. We're just presenting the information. We're all learning
Speaker 3: at the same time.
Speaker 4: Thine. When when I hear thine, I think it's like your,
Speaker 4: like someone else's. But I could be wrong, dude.
Speaker 3: Okay, So in the Bible, thine is an archaic possessive
Speaker 3: pronoun meaning yours or belonging to you.
Speaker 4: Okay, so it's like referring to someone else.
Speaker 3: Yours, well, yours mine, same thing, right, Okay, so yeah,
Speaker 3: kind of like.
Speaker 4: Mine.
Speaker 3: O Lord is the okay, my Lord? Okay, okay, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: So my Lord is the greatness and the power and
Speaker 3: the glory and the victory and the majesty. For all
Speaker 3: that is in heaven and in earth is mine. Mine
Speaker 3: is the kingdom, O Lord, and you are exalted as
Speaker 3: the head above all. Oh okay, all right, See why
Speaker 3: can't we just say the same language. You know, there
Speaker 3: has to be a whole tower of Babbel situation.
Speaker 4: And thank you to all of the religious people or
Speaker 4: people that came from a religious background that kind of
Speaker 4: stuck in there with us through that, you know.
Speaker 3: So yeah, one more quote as far as omnipotent's from
Speaker 3: the Bible, I am al Alpha and Omega the beginning
Speaker 3: and the endings Saith the Lord, which is and which was,
Speaker 3: and which is to come, the Almighty, which is to come, dude,
Speaker 3: which is, which is currently, which was in the past
Speaker 3: and is in the future. God, the beginning and the end. Like,
Speaker 3: how do you say you're separate from that? How could
Speaker 3: you possibly say you're separate from that?
Speaker 4: You just can't. It's impossible. We're too deep now, you know.
Speaker 4: Either you're so full of yourself.
Speaker 3: That you think somehow that God is everything except.
Speaker 5: You, or.
Speaker 3: That that God there's no way that God could ever
Speaker 3: be you, because what are you compared to God?
Speaker 4: Right? That's but but what is a plankton compared to
Speaker 4: the ocean? M hm? Still part of the ocean? Right
Speaker 4: you know? Wow?
Speaker 3: So all right, now we're going to get to the
Speaker 3: oneness and unity as far as the Bible goes, that
Speaker 3: there is only God here, Oh Israel, the Lord, our
Speaker 3: God is one Lord, one Lord. Yeah, that's from Deuteronomy.
Speaker 3: The next one is from Acts. It says in him
Speaker 3: we live and move and have our being, for we
Speaker 3: are also his offspring.
Speaker 4: Also oh on that point.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean if God is everything, then he's the husband,
Speaker 3: he's the wife, you know what I mean, he's.
Speaker 4: The kids, he's the dogs. Yeah, so of course. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Next one is from Ephesians One, God, God and Father
Speaker 3: of all, who is above all and through all, and
Speaker 3: in you all.
Speaker 4: In you all there it is right there there on. Now,
Speaker 4: where's the misunderstanding? I think you know in translation?
Speaker 3: No, he's over there though, right he's over there, not here,
Speaker 3: not right here.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Another one, Oh, these next two are really going to
Speaker 3: bring it home. Luke seventeen twenty one. The Kingdom of
Speaker 3: God is within you and John uh, Chapter ten, verse thirty.
Speaker 3: I and the Father are one. That's what Jesus said.
Speaker 4: I don't think that could be misunderstood, man, you know,
Speaker 4: not thinking Kingdom of God is within you? That one alone.
Speaker 4: You could have just said that one and we'd be done,
Speaker 4: say less.
Speaker 3: We could have finished the episode in about twenty seconds
Speaker 3: with that one.
Speaker 4: There. It was. Yeah, that was the episode.
Speaker 3: But even like, and this is the thing, what people
Speaker 3: like I believe, don't get right about Jesus. It's not
Speaker 3: that it was It's not that he was God in
Speaker 3: saying that I'm so holy and I'm so maddie, and
Speaker 3: this is why I can do all of these wild things,
Speaker 3: you know, all of the miracles and whatnot. Jesus all
Speaker 3: the way through the Bible and all the way through
Speaker 3: the Nagamadi was teaching how you can become like him.
Speaker 4: And that's what they all say.
Speaker 3: Literally, if you're a follower of Jesus, you're trying to
Speaker 3: be like him.
Speaker 4: M hm.
Speaker 3: But it's the people out there that say, there's only
Speaker 3: ever been one person, so don't even try, right, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean. It's like, my God, you're you're
Speaker 3: missing the force for the trees.
Speaker 4: At this point mm hmm. Yeah, that's where they start
Speaker 4: putting the limitations, man, And I don't think we we
Speaker 4: have those, you know, absolutely not. There shouldn't be For
Speaker 4: everything and the and and and the Kingdom of God
Speaker 4: is within us, then then why are we at Why
Speaker 4: would we ever be looked at as as so less
Speaker 4: than that?
Speaker 3: I don't know, no, I feel that, and even like
Speaker 3: you know, somebody will some people will say, well, yeah,
Speaker 3: I believe that I'm capable of a lot of things,
Speaker 3: but I'm never going to grow to be six foot
Speaker 3: eight and be able to win mill donk like Lebron James.
Speaker 4: Right, Okay, do you think Jesus could have done that? Probably, dude,
Speaker 4: I think he could have.
Speaker 3: Actually, but what if Jesus was only five eight?
Speaker 4: Oh shit? How tall was Jesus? I don't know. That's
Speaker 4: essentially a pretty good question. Let's see if anybody knows.
Speaker 4: I imagine he had to have been at least at
Speaker 4: least six foot, right.
Speaker 3: I don't think so, dude, Oh my god, he was
Speaker 3: a short little dude?
Speaker 4: Was he short? Five to five? Oh? Wow?
Speaker 3: Well it's It says Jesus is believed to have been
Speaker 3: around five feet five inches, which is typical for a
Speaker 3: Jewish man of this time. Some estimates suggest that he
Speaker 3: could have been as tall as six feet, but this
Speaker 3: is less commonly accepted, so it's just under Oh and
Speaker 3: then you look at other ones. This is from all
Speaker 3: That's Interesting dot com, which is one of our favorite websites.
Speaker 3: But it says the Bible does not say how tall
Speaker 3: Jesus Christ was, but some reach researchers have used archaeological
Speaker 3: and anatomical science to estimate his height. They suggest that
Speaker 3: he was between five to one and five five.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, no way, no way. See, in my mind,
Speaker 4: he was already way taller than that. Like, there was
Speaker 4: no way he was under five five. Dude, you think
Speaker 4: he was Windmill Duncan at five to one? No he
Speaker 4: was not.
Speaker 3: No, I mean, is he mugsy?
Speaker 4: Now?
Speaker 3: You know, like is he Nate Robinson? You know, like
Speaker 3: even Nate Robinson I think was like five eight five nine.
Speaker 4: You know which little guy short for a basketball player,
Speaker 4: which is shuop soup. That's like, that's minute that is
Speaker 4: child'll be Duncan on the court. Yeah. Oh yeah, he
Speaker 4: was getting some air, dude. So yeah, that's that's interesting
Speaker 4: that I didn't think we would find that out. Bro,
Speaker 4: I'm taller than the Savior. Come on now, oh my god.
Speaker 4: Oh I wonder if they measured the shroud of turn.
Speaker 4: Wouldn't that be a good way if they think that
Speaker 4: that was actually the you know, Jesus' shroud, wouldn't you
Speaker 4: know what I mean? I mean, I understand there would
Speaker 4: be some discrepancy, you know, within the curvature of his
Speaker 4: body and maybe that would throw it off a few
Speaker 4: inches or so. But you know, like, how long is
Speaker 4: that from from head to head to toe or head
Speaker 4: to sandal whatever, you know.
Speaker 3: I don't think it went all the way down. Oh
Speaker 3: but it does say that, like, you know, and not
Speaker 3: everybody believes that the Shroud of Turn is actually like
Speaker 3: a real legit thing like that.
Speaker 4: You know, let's just say it was, it says.
Speaker 3: The Shroud of Turn, also known as the Whole Shroud,
Speaker 3: is a length of linen cloth that bears a faint
Speaker 3: image of the front and back of a naked man.
Speaker 3: Because details of the image are consistent with traditional depictions
Speaker 3: of Jesus of Nazareth after his death by crucifixion, the
Speaker 3: shroud has been venerated for centuries, especially by members of
Speaker 3: the Catholic Church, as Jesus's Shroud, which as Jesus's shroud
Speaker 3: upon which his image was miraculously imprinted.
Speaker 4: And then it.
Speaker 3: Says that the size of the shroud was four and
Speaker 3: a half inches or I'm sorry, four and a half
Speaker 3: feet for our feet.
Speaker 4: Oh wow, he keeps getting smaller, dude.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I don't think it showed I don't think
Speaker 3: it showed his feet.
Speaker 4: I could be wrong.
Speaker 3: Okay, it's been a minute since I covered that one,
Speaker 3: but yeah, I mean even still.
Speaker 4: Yeah, not all lot shorter than I thought he was.
Speaker 4: For some reason, I just thought he was, like, who's
Speaker 4: up there at least six foot, you know, because in
Speaker 4: all the images he just looks like he's tall. I
Speaker 4: mean at least the stuff that I've seen, and he
Speaker 4: just looks tall to me, like kind of lanky.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I kind of figured the same thing. I mean,
Speaker 3: lanky makes sense because it's not like they had McDonald's,
Speaker 3: you know. But now that makes me curious, huh about
Speaker 3: how tall sad Guru is?
Speaker 4: Four feet Bro, Sad Guru's five eight Oh wow, towering
Speaker 4: over Jesus. Yeah, and physical sense.
Speaker 3: Right, yeah, that is so see it. You know, height
Speaker 3: doesn't matter, which you don't know though, you know, some
Speaker 3: women just get it wrong. Size really doesn't matter. Okay,
Speaker 3: I'm just kidding. So all right, now we're going to
Speaker 3: get to a little bit of quantum mechanics where science
Speaker 3: meets the omnies. So omnipresence basically would be non locality,
Speaker 3: as you were kind of saying earlier. So in quantum physics,
Speaker 3: non locality describes how particles separated by vast distances can
Speaker 3: still be instantly connected. Einstein called this spooky action at
Speaker 3: a distance. The phenomenon is most famously demonstrated by quantum entanglement,
Speaker 3: where two particles, once linked, remain correlated no matter how
Speaker 3: far apart they are. This suggests that space is not
Speaker 3: what we think it is. Separation is an illusion. The
Speaker 3: field behind all particles is already connected everywhere, all the time,
Speaker 3: the field.
Speaker 4: So maybe you want to call God the field, right.
Speaker 4: I don't have a rhyme with that. I don't have
Speaker 4: a problem with that at all. No, there's no like
Speaker 4: time delay, right, if I'm not mistaken, as far as
Speaker 4: when you alter one, the other one responds.
Speaker 3: Instantaneously, instant right at the same exact like like a milli.
Speaker 4: Moment, right, because even at the speed of light would
Speaker 4: be way too slow, Like if you separated it like
Speaker 4: across the galaxy, it would take a long time for
Speaker 4: that other one to start doing something different, you know,
Speaker 4: I mean, that's a trip.
Speaker 3: And even currently I believe the only thing that is
Speaker 3: that is as fast as the speed of light is thought.
Speaker 4: Mmmm, as far as we know, I mean, how could
Speaker 4: we know? But it's interesting thought, Yeah, unless you're talking
Speaker 4: about UFOs, but they could be cheating, you know, folding
Speaker 4: space time. Yeah, they found literally.
Speaker 3: So omnipresence in quantum terms is non local unity, a
Speaker 3: shared field beneath all form. As physicists David Boem put it,
Speaker 3: in some sense, all these particles are continuously interchanging and
Speaker 3: flowing into each other. The whole universe is in a
Speaker 3: state of constant flux, a single, unbroken wholeness in flowing movement.
Speaker 3: That's an interesting scientific way to put it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, dude, there's a there's a bunch of ship that
Speaker 4: goes into it that they don't fucking understand. Dude, Like
Speaker 4: they observe it and they know it's there. Like the
Speaker 4: cosmic web, you know, it's this thing that just kindind
Speaker 4: of holds things together in such a way. And this
Speaker 4: isn't gravity that we're talking about. It's like on a
Speaker 4: grander scale, and it's just like this architect of sorts
Speaker 4: that's just kind of holding things in a particular way.
Speaker 4: I guess. I mean I could be saying this wrong,
Speaker 4: but it's something along those lines, and they have no
Speaker 4: idea what it is.
Speaker 3: Oh, it's just like an unseen massive web of.
Speaker 4: Sorts, which I think they call it dark energy, but
Speaker 4: I'm not sure if that's I could be wrong on
Speaker 4: that too, forgive me, but yeah, dark energy, and they
Speaker 4: call it dark energy because they don't understand what it is.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it fits into all the equations right, exactly so.
Speaker 3: But yeah, as far as that scientific quote goes, it
Speaker 3: says that sounds a lot like Taoism, but it's quantum theory.
Speaker 4: So you saw such an on the same thing.
Speaker 3: And that's what like all of the spiritual gurus and
Speaker 3: sages and mystics and all of them, you know, the swami's,
Speaker 3: they're all they've all said, this science will eventually catch
Speaker 3: up to what we already know.
Speaker 4: Mm hmm. Yeah, it's a slow process, dude, you know.
Speaker 3: I mean, that's fine, and I hope it does. I mean,
Speaker 3: I don't know. I almost want to say that I
Speaker 3: don't know if it's gonna happen in our lifetime.
Speaker 4: Probably not. Probably not. Yeah, if I had to guess,
Speaker 4: I would say probably not. I think the hard thing
Speaker 4: is is getting funding for some of these things, and
Speaker 4: then also getting scientists that aren't just completely biased and
Speaker 4: wanting to believe, like if they said, all right, Jonathan,
Speaker 4: we're going to give you all this money, figure it out.
Speaker 4: You're going to probably lean towards a certain direction, trying
Speaker 4: to push a certain you know what I mean, understanding
Speaker 4: on it. And so I think that's another obstacle. I mean,
Speaker 4: I could be wrong. I don't necessarily know the full
Speaker 4: process of getting research done, but I imagine there's a
Speaker 4: lot more to it, you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's probably like, you know, some people want to
Speaker 3: look at it through a physics lens, some people want
Speaker 3: to look at it through a quantum mechanics lens. Some
Speaker 3: people want to look at it through even a religious lens.
Speaker 3: And you know, there are religious people in science. It's
Speaker 3: not to say that they don't exist. I mean they
Speaker 3: do everybody. It's probably mixed in there with everything, right,
Speaker 3: So yeah, I'm sure that there's always going to be
Speaker 3: somebody who looks at it from their own perspective, trying
Speaker 3: to maybe reinforce their own beliefs, which is fine, you know,
Speaker 3: I want to see it through everybody's perspective, you know.
Speaker 4: Well, I think that's what makes it interesting is no
Speaker 4: matter what lens you look through, I feel like you're
Speaker 4: going to find remnants of the truth or are a
Speaker 4: similar understanding, you know, because I was looking into it
Speaker 4: and it was even going into like the workings of
Speaker 4: like the psychology of omnipresence. You know, if you're going
Speaker 4: through anxiety or you're really stressed out or whatever, like,
Speaker 4: no matter where you are, that state of mind is
Speaker 4: with you. You know, you can't just run from it.
Speaker 4: It's everywhere you go. And so when that sense, that's omnipresence, right,
Speaker 4: and you can call it whatever you want, right, And
Speaker 4: that's just another lens to try to understand whatever that is.
Speaker 3: Right, right, And that actually goes back to our very
Speaker 3: first quote by uh that was in the rig Veda,
Speaker 3: that the truth is one, though the sages call it
Speaker 3: by many.
Speaker 4: Names, right, exactly exactly, that's exactly it.
Speaker 3: So all right, now we're going to get to omnipotence
Speaker 3: as the quantum potential. So still sticking with science in
Speaker 3: the omnies now, So in quantum mechanics, particles do not
Speaker 3: exist in fixed states. Instead, they exist in superposition, a
Speaker 3: cloud of probabilities until observed. The acts of the act
Speaker 3: of observation collapses the wave function into a specific outcome.
Speaker 3: This means that reality is not solid until it is
Speaker 3: interacted with by consciousness, that infinite see of potentiality. That's
Speaker 3: the quantum field, the creative source of everything. This field
Speaker 3: of possibilities is the scientific mirror of omnipotence itself, the
Speaker 3: ability to become anything depending on perspective, interaction, and choice.
Speaker 3: As Deepak Chopra once said he was trying to bridge
Speaker 3: science and mysticism. He says, you and I are essentially
Speaker 3: infinite choice makers in every moment we're navigating a field
Speaker 3: of infinite possibilities.
Speaker 4: That kind of goes back to what you're saying too,
Speaker 4: as far as the room behind you not not necessarily existing.
Speaker 4: You know, I don't know if that expands out to
Speaker 4: the very large, but I know that's kind of referring
Speaker 4: to the the extremely small, you know. But still it's
Speaker 4: interesting that that's even a thing that happens. That still
Speaker 4: kind of boggles me. Well, that the superposition idea, well,
Speaker 4: and then it becomes where it's going to be when
Speaker 4: you look at it, like what what told that that
Speaker 4: you were looking at it for it too? I don't know,
Speaker 4: Maybe I'm just not smart enough to understand it.
Speaker 3: It's essentially like our awareness caused the manifestation if you
Speaker 3: put it that way, you know, which is just it
Speaker 3: collapsed all the waveform and it brought it into the
Speaker 3: material reality in which it can be a like through
Speaker 3: our lens right, and even still whenever it is, you know,
Speaker 3: giving off like material or this is what it is,
Speaker 3: whenever it collapses into whatever it collapses into. And even
Speaker 3: once it collapse into that thing, that's not all it is.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 3: And that's why we say like the more inanimate object
Speaker 3: type of thing like this microphone, the table, my hat,
Speaker 3: my headphones, everything, that's only because we've collapsed them by
Speaker 3: giving them awareness essentially. And it's almost like I like
Speaker 3: to look at it as you know, everything exists as
Speaker 3: ready to be manifested, but not yet. So whenever you
Speaker 3: have this stuff where it's it's like reality is not
Speaker 3: solid until it's interacted with by consciousness.
Speaker 4: That it's like.
Speaker 3: Everything everything, uh is existing as an unlimited potential. And
Speaker 3: it's almost if you look at it even from a
Speaker 3: like a different kind of mind here, that everything exists
Speaker 3: as the lower mind, not made manifest and not brought
Speaker 3: into awareness yet. But once it is brought into awareness,
Speaker 3: it is manifested as itself in a sense, so, and
Speaker 3: I like to look at it through that lens because
Speaker 3: I think that that is an allegory essentially for the
Speaker 3: human that is on their kind of spiritual journey. In essence,
Speaker 3: you're becoming aware of your own awareness and of your
Speaker 3: own essence, and you're of your of your own connectedness
Speaker 3: to the y'all, we're all on that journey trying to
Speaker 3: essentially trying to convince ourselves of that, you know, because
Speaker 3: whenever you hear it, you're like, man, that sounds awesome.
Speaker 4: I hope that's true.
Speaker 3: And then you're like trying to find all these different
Speaker 3: things like oh, there's this, and then there's this, and
Speaker 3: before you know it, you have just an entire field
Speaker 3: worth of information within your mind. That is the key
Speaker 3: that ultimately unlocks the door to that understanding of you
Speaker 3: are part of all and then you are all.
Speaker 4: So that's great. I love that. I wonder what that
Speaker 4: does though, Like when they when they found that out,
Speaker 4: like the to the most logical minded person you know,
Speaker 4: scientists or whoever, you know, it's like I imagine they would
Speaker 4: have lost a little bit of sleep over that when
Speaker 4: they found out that that was a thing, Like you
Speaker 4: know what I mean, that's that's a that's a wake
Speaker 4: up call. I think you know, your reality wasn't what you.
Speaker 3: Thought, dude. And that's the thing. Even with like like
Speaker 3: quantum physics and stuff. Quantum physics wasn't technically a thing
Speaker 3: until I believe, like the nineteen twenties.
Speaker 4: And so that's whenever.
Speaker 3: Of course, you know, after that, you have Einstein saying,
Speaker 3: spooky action at a distance.
Speaker 4: I don't know what the fuck it is, but it's
Speaker 4: something he doesn't understand why it's doing.
Speaker 3: That, right, the interconnectedness of all things, the quantum fuck
Speaker 3: what was it called quantum entanglement?
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 3: And then you look at two particles and it's literally
Speaker 3: whenever those particles, you know, they're separate, right, but then
Speaker 3: whenever they they bring them back together, it literally show
Speaker 3: and we showed this before, but it literally is again
Speaker 3: yang m It's like they're dancing around each other. They
Speaker 3: are of each other, they are not of each other.
Speaker 3: There they're divine opposites, essentially, the masculine in the feminine.
Speaker 3: But within each aspect of the masculine and the feminine,
Speaker 3: there are tinier aspects of the masculine in the feminine
Speaker 3: in the feminine within the masculine as well.
Speaker 4: It's just forevere the dance, right, and yet it's still
Speaker 4: one thing. It's still one thing in essence.
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, oh God, even make somebody spiritual, you know.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that's what I was gonna That's what I
Speaker 4: was gonna say, Like, I'm sure they they maybe they
Speaker 4: stumbled upon this this idea or this this finding, you know,
Speaker 4: but I was gonna say, like, what inspired that? Like
Speaker 4: I wonder if it came from some type of well,
Speaker 4: I mean it must have if you really think about it,
Speaker 4: But if it came from some type of spiritual awareness
Speaker 4: that stumbled across that and is figuring itself out, you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, dude, I'm sure it was a full on trip.
Speaker 3: They were probably like, wait a second, I don't exist.
Speaker 4: You know what does that even mean? That I don't exist?
Speaker 4: What am I experiencing? Then? You know? Who am I? Yeah?
Speaker 3: So all right, now we're going to get to and
Speaker 3: you know what, dude, Like today, and I don't know
Speaker 3: if it's something going on with.
Speaker 4: The Earth's field.
Speaker 3: Was it called the human resonance or astrologically or what?
Speaker 3: But today I've just been feeling like unaligned. But you
Speaker 3: know what's crazy about feeling that unalignment is that, you
Speaker 3: know me personally, I love whenever I'm feeling aligned.
Speaker 4: I'm firing on all cylinders.
Speaker 3: I'm like the best version of myself, and I feel
Speaker 3: that like I'm the most understanding, I'm the most like
Speaker 3: empathetic in all these other things. Right, But I know
Speaker 3: what that feels like, and so even though I've been
Speaker 3: feeling unaligned with that, I still remember what it is like,
Speaker 3: and so I'm kind of just like, you know, like
Speaker 3: shooting from the hip from scratch because I'm not aligned,
Speaker 3: but like you know what I mean, it's like a
Speaker 3: remembering of what it feels like to be aligned. So
Speaker 3: I've been trying to get myself there, and it's almost like,
Speaker 3: you know, the thing that I'm trying to connect and
Speaker 3: align with is like it's just one step in front
Speaker 3: of me, and I've been trying to chase it all day.
Speaker 4: You ever feel like that, Oh, absolutely, dude. I feel
Speaker 4: like I have a lot of those days where like
Speaker 4: everything just kind of seems and it's really hard to
Speaker 4: put a put a word on it or even a
Speaker 4: reason for that feeling like I'm sure you didn't wake
Speaker 4: up and there was something that just really fucked with
Speaker 4: you and made you feel that way. It's just a being,
Speaker 4: you know, it's just is that's just how you are today,
Speaker 4: you know.
Speaker 3: Right, And I think the point of you know, because
Speaker 3: it's not that you can always be aligned at all
Speaker 3: times unless like unless you literally are meditating several times
Speaker 3: a day, that's probably the way to do it. I
Speaker 3: would love to be able to get to that point,
Speaker 3: but life be lifeing, and so yeah, I would I
Speaker 3: would love to be able to just meditate several times
Speaker 3: at least like once a day. That would be so great,
Speaker 3: And we should, like there's always.
Speaker 4: Time, you know what I mean, reason you can't, you know,
Speaker 4: we just come up with reasons we do. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 4: if you got ten minutes to dick around on your phone, yeah,
Speaker 4: ten minutes to go meditate. Sometimes, dude, I do it
Speaker 4: just out of necessity. You know. There's times where I
Speaker 4: should be doing it and I just don't for whatever reason.
Speaker 4: And then there's other times where I'll just jump in
Speaker 4: for a minute or two just to just to breathe
Speaker 4: a little bit and just kind of find that baseline,
Speaker 4: you know, Yeah, find that little bit of bliss, all right.
Speaker 3: So now we're going to get to omniscis as the
Speaker 3: informational field. So omniscis and informational field according to this
Speaker 3: same thing, or at least allegorical to the same thing.
Speaker 3: So you got Physicists like John Wheeler proposed that the
Speaker 3: universe is not built from quote unquote things, but from
Speaker 3: bits of information, a concept known as it from bit.
Speaker 4: Okay.
Speaker 3: In this model, reality arises from quantum information. Every atom,
Speaker 3: every particle is a carrier of knowledge, and the unified
Speaker 3: field beneath the universe is not just energetic, but informational.
Speaker 4: It knows. Oh my god, how freaking spooky. I mean
Speaker 4: the same thing as like the unified field, right.
Speaker 3: Essentially, yeah, okay, and everybody calls it someboy, people call
Speaker 3: it the unified field. That was the unified field what
Speaker 3: he was referring to, the conscious field, the ether whatever. Right,
Speaker 3: But it says this ties into the idea of a
Speaker 3: conscious field, an intelligence behind the curtain of matter, not
Speaker 3: anth not the anthropomorphic god, but an aware substrate from
Speaker 3: which matter and thought arise. Holy shit, that's awesome, some
Speaker 3: deep shit, dude. Damn, I might have to reread that
Speaker 3: one do it? So this ties into the idea of
Speaker 3: a conscious field and intelligence behind the curtain of matter.
Speaker 3: Not an anthropomorphic god, but an aware substrate from which
Speaker 3: matter and thought arise.
Speaker 4: My God, that's deep.
Speaker 3: That one will put that'll put some hair on your
Speaker 3: chest right there, you know, it says the acasic record
Speaker 3: in mysticism, may be the quantum field.
Speaker 4: In science, everybody puts a name on it. No, it's
Speaker 4: this one. No, it's that one. It's like you idiot,
Speaker 4: they're talking about the same thing.
Speaker 3: Yes, then you got h The physicist Irvin Laslow says this,
Speaker 3: The quantum vacuum is a holographic is a holographic conscious
Speaker 3: field that retains all the information of everything that ever was.
Speaker 3: The quantum vacuum is the holographic conscious field that retains
Speaker 3: all the information of everything that ever was. Okay akashak
Speaker 3: records is the quantum vacuum? Then, m I mean, is.
Speaker 4: There any information and just stores it? Essentially? Yeah?
Speaker 3: And I think that, like, you know, within our own minds,
Speaker 3: we may look at it differently. Oh, I see a library,
Speaker 3: and inside this library is infinite books. You know, it's
Speaker 3: like same shit. You're just putting your own spin to it,
Speaker 3: you know, because you can because you can.
Speaker 4: No, there isn't that limitation where it has to look
Speaker 4: like this, you know.
Speaker 3: Right right, it's just up to the interpreter. But it's
Speaker 3: all the same thing. So now we have oneness as
Speaker 3: the unified field. So finally we arrive at oneness. And
Speaker 3: here science gets poetic. The standard model of physics tells
Speaker 3: us that all fundamental particles are excitations of underlying fields.
Speaker 3: That means electrons, quarks, photons aren't solid stuff. They're ripples
Speaker 3: in an invisible field that permeates all space. Everything you see, touch, taste,
Speaker 3: or think is not separate, but modulations of the same
Speaker 3: underlying reality. That's oneness in scientific language. Oh my god,
Speaker 3: I love it. Who would have thought science would be
Speaker 3: so much fun?
Speaker 4: I like what you're saying right now.
Speaker 3: It's the quantum shit that really excites me more than
Speaker 3: anything else.
Speaker 4: Well, because it's observable, it's it's understood scientifically, it's more tangible.
Speaker 4: It's it's the things that we're finding in this physical
Speaker 4: realm that are really lining up with the metaphysical understandings
Speaker 4: you know that's been understood for so long.
Speaker 3: And and not and not to hammer a nail that
Speaker 3: I've already touched on a couple of times already in
Speaker 3: this episode. But is that not almost a neoplatonic way
Speaker 3: of looking at it? Whenever you're comparing physics to quantum physics,
Speaker 3: except the one emanates from the quantum field or from
Speaker 3: quantum uh mechanics into the bigger more the physics, right.
Speaker 4: Right right, right right, Well, it's like what the what
Speaker 4: the one is doing is what we're doing because we're entangled.
Speaker 4: We're all entangled. Yeah shit.
Speaker 3: So, as physicist Nassim Haremen Harramine describes it like this,
Speaker 3: atoms are not things. They are fluctuations in a field.
Speaker 3: And that field is universal, infinite, and interconnected. So whatever
Speaker 3: view you like to look at this from, it's all
Speaker 3: saying the same damn thing that even in science, God
Speaker 3: can't be this and not that, even in science, you know,
Speaker 3: and and you want to call science or you want
Speaker 3: to call God, the quantum field or the or the
Speaker 3: quantum vacuum or whatever. I mean, literally, oneness as the
Speaker 3: unified field, omniscience as the informational field, omnipotence as the
Speaker 3: quantum potential, and omnipresence as non locality. Science is describing
Speaker 3: what we are living in and if what we are
Speaker 3: living in was created or encompassed or just all is
Speaker 3: one thing, and you want to put a name to
Speaker 3: that one thing, whether you call it God or physics
Speaker 3: or you know, the source or whatever it is that
Speaker 3: and so if that is that, then that is also you, right,
Speaker 3: and it's not separate.
Speaker 4: It's kind of philosophical of you.
Speaker 3: You know, I'm getting philosophical tonight. Due nextly, we have
Speaker 3: pure science, the cosmic mirror. So even when we strip
Speaker 3: away spirituality and mysticism, science still points towards unity. Everything
Speaker 3: is made of atoms. Atoms are made of subatomic particles.
Speaker 3: Subatomic particles our quantum wave functions, and quantum wave functions
Speaker 3: exist in a shared field. That means that at the root,
Speaker 3: lets we are all the same damn thing, same thing.
Speaker 4: I love it. Oh yeah, get me in the kitchen, baby.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 3: So, as Carl sagan One said, one of my favorites.
Speaker 3: I used to love that guy. Carl sagan One said,
Speaker 3: the nitrogen in our DNA, the calcium in our teeth,
Speaker 3: the iron in our blood. We're made of the interiors
Speaker 3: of collapsing stars. We are made of star stuff.
Speaker 4: M You know what what boggles my mind a little
Speaker 4: bit about the notion that we are all of the
Speaker 4: same stuff. I feel like we should find more earths.
Speaker 4: You know, isn't that interesting how we seem to be,
Speaker 4: at least as far as we know, somewhat special and
Speaker 4: in this.
Speaker 3: I mean yeah, I mean I would say that maybe
Speaker 3: in this dimension there's only one just like you know,
Speaker 3: in this dimension, maybe there's there's only one shown, you know,
Speaker 3: there's only one your wife, there's only one your dog,
Speaker 3: kind of thing. And it's not to say that, you
Speaker 3: know people, you know, like everybody has a doppelganger, so
Speaker 3: they say, or two or three doppelgangers or whatever. But
Speaker 3: you know it just because somebody looks alike doesn't mean
Speaker 3: that they think alike and they are alike and they
Speaker 3: have the same interest and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 4: So but yeah, yeah, I just I just find it fascinating,
Speaker 4: you know, if we're all made of this stuff that's
Speaker 4: just so abundant throughout the entire universe, Like there isn't
Speaker 4: a whole lot of other stuff, and and so we're
Speaker 4: and we're made of that. Why isn't there more of
Speaker 4: that happening? I can understand there there are definitely some
Speaker 4: parameters that need to be met, and you know, as
Speaker 4: far as how far away you are from the Sun
Speaker 4: and all that, we can get into that. But I
Speaker 4: feel like there's even still there should be more evidence
Speaker 4: of other Earth's earth like planets, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I don't due to be honest, I
Speaker 3: don't even know what I believe about space and planets
Speaker 3: and all that kind of stuff. Like I think that
Speaker 3: I think, you know, whether there is that, and I'm
Speaker 3: not closed off to that possibility like all of that,
Speaker 3: And I know I might even seem still silly whenever
Speaker 3: I question planets and stars and galaxies and all that
Speaker 3: kind of stuff. It's just that, you know, I can't
Speaker 3: verify that. So how am I going to say?
Speaker 2: I know?
Speaker 3: I would have to say I believe and I don't believe.
Speaker 4: Shit, right, you know, I got you, I got you.
Speaker 3: It's like my one of my favorite podcasts, Croachuble seven
Speaker 3: says belief is the enemy of knowing, pretty solid. So yeah,
Speaker 3: I like knowing. I don't like believing personally, Like there's
Speaker 3: power and belief. Don't get me wrong. I think that
Speaker 3: they're apt. Like that's one thing that we discovered is
Speaker 3: that there absolutely is power and belief that is the
Speaker 3: battery that makes everything go. But to believe is not
Speaker 3: to know, right, you know, So as physicists Neil deGrasse
Speaker 3: Tyson says, the most astounding fact is that the.
Speaker 4: Universe is in us.
Speaker 3: There, it is there, It freaking is It says, you
Speaker 3: don't need religion to believe in oneness. Reality itself is
Speaker 3: screaming at every single level.
Speaker 4: Yeah, buddy.
Speaker 3: So now we're going to bridge quantum science and consciousness.
Speaker 3: So some scientists are proposing that consciousness itself may be fundamental,
Speaker 3: not the product of matter, but the foundation of matter.
Speaker 4: Yes, dude, this is I like this shit. Just the
Speaker 4: other day, my wife and I started singing the same
Speaker 4: part of a song at the exact same time, and
Speaker 4: I think it happened twice that day. And so this
Speaker 4: is kind of going into what I I think. I
Speaker 4: think consciousness is just everywhere, dude, and it kind of
Speaker 4: flows in and out of all of us, not in
Speaker 4: and out, but like we can, we can all dip
Speaker 4: into that that substance is, you know. And so for
Speaker 4: I mean, for the purpose that my wife and I
Speaker 4: just started singing. It wasn't even like the beginning of
Speaker 4: a song. It was just like the same part of
Speaker 4: that song at the same exact time. That's freaky, you
Speaker 4: know what I mean. And we just looked at each
Speaker 4: other like what was that? You know? And if consciousness
Speaker 4: it just permeates through everything, and we just kind of
Speaker 4: both tapped into that thing at that same time.
Speaker 3: You know, I don't know, it's the well, yeah, it's
Speaker 3: that's the consciousness field in essence, and you know, it
Speaker 3: used to be something that people just believed in, but
Speaker 3: science is proving that with all of the quantum stuff.
Speaker 3: And it's like, you know, is it crazy for somebody
Speaker 3: living in Pennsylvania in December to have two people right
Speaker 3: next to each other freezing cold? Like, no, it's going
Speaker 3: to be snowing outside. Two people in the same house,
Speaker 3: or if they're in the same front yard or whatever.
Speaker 3: Let's just say that they're outside. They're building snowmen. Right,
Speaker 3: two people are outside building snowmen, and they both look
Speaker 3: at each other and one says, I'm cold and the
Speaker 3: other one goes, oh my god, me too.
Speaker 4: It's like, well, duh, you.
Speaker 3: Know, you're in the same environment and whereas this it's like, yeah,
Speaker 3: you picked up on what she picked on because you're
Speaker 3: so interwoven that you're picking up on the same field
Speaker 3: of consciousness and the same you know, the informational field
Speaker 3: that it almost it's like, I believe that eventually humanity
Speaker 3: is going to get to a point where that's not
Speaker 3: spooky anymore.
Speaker 4: Mm hmm, it's going to be understood.
Speaker 3: I think that it's going to be because it'll be like, oh,
Speaker 3: I was just thinking that. Oh I was thinking that too. Oh, okay,
Speaker 3: what do you.
Speaker 4: Think that's it? Yeah? Right, yeah, and it doesn't go
Speaker 4: any further, you know. But when that happened, I just
Speaker 4: sat there and I just said I just started thinking
Speaker 4: about that, and I was like, okay, what is that?
Speaker 4: That just caused us both to do the same exact
Speaker 4: thing at the same time, without planning ahead or even
Speaker 4: looking at each other. We were kind of doing our
Speaker 4: own thing, but kind of in the same room, and
Speaker 4: it just happened. Dude. I was like, that's fucking weird.
Speaker 3: And the weird thing is is that that shit probably
Speaker 3: always happens, you know. But the fascinating part is whenever
Speaker 3: you're both like, you both catch on it, you know,
Speaker 3: like it's that you're both experiencing the same epiphany type
Speaker 3: of moment, and that's really where the magic is.
Speaker 4: I think, like the.
Speaker 3: Magic it's it's the awareness of said event.
Speaker 4: Yes, we could have just like ignored that, and you know,
Speaker 4: but we both were like, whoa, that's a trip. You know. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I wonder how often that happens when we're not even
Speaker 4: in the same room. Probably a lot, like similar thoughts
Speaker 4: or similar things like that. I'm sure it happens all
Speaker 4: the time, oh dude.
Speaker 3: And lately I've been waking up like and it used
Speaker 3: to happen to me all the time, and then it
Speaker 3: stopped for a little while, and then it started again,
Speaker 3: like every day over the past you know, a week
Speaker 3: and a half, two weeks to where I wake up
Speaker 3: and there's a random song that I haven't heard in
Speaker 3: forever in my mind.
Speaker 4: M hmm, what was that? You know? Why? Like did
Speaker 4: I pick up on the radio station somewhere? I mean,
Speaker 4: is it someone else is singing that song and you're
Speaker 4: picking up on it?
Speaker 3: I mean, was somebody thinking about me whenever they heard
Speaker 3: that song for some reason, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: Like it it's yeah, it could be anything like that,
Speaker 3: but it also but it also could be just like,
Speaker 3: you know, maybe that's your mind's way of giving you
Speaker 3: a message kind of thing. That's what you know we
Speaker 3: hear from other people. It's like, all right, well, whenever
Speaker 3: you wake up and you you're you're singing a song
Speaker 3: you haven't heard in forever and you don't know why
Speaker 3: it's stuck in your head, go and look up the
Speaker 3: lyrics because there's probably a message in there. And that's
Speaker 3: weird because who's that message from, you know, like, is
Speaker 3: that message from your higher self? Is it from the field?
Speaker 3: Is it from both, because they're probably the.
Speaker 4: Same same thing, right, It's all the same thing. Yeah,
Speaker 4: so cool. I don't think that consciousness is coming just
Speaker 4: from a physical thing like our brain making shit up. No, No,
Speaker 4: I think it's pass backwards.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I think there's way more to it, and it's just
Speaker 4: so hard to prove. I guess that being said, the
Speaker 4: Telepathic podcast is going to be coming out soon. We're
Speaker 4: just gonna not say anything and see what happens, you know, bro.
Speaker 3: I mean, they got a bunch of like TikTokers that
Speaker 3: are getting on this trend where they'll say, all right,
Speaker 3: I'm thinking of a number between one and a thousand,
Speaker 3: and that's all they say, and they'll just like pause
Speaker 3: for a couple.
Speaker 4: Of seconds and try to figure it out.
Speaker 3: Dude, there's a percentage of people if you look in
Speaker 3: the comments that there's a percentage. And I don't know
Speaker 3: what that percentage is. Maybe it's five percent, you know,
Speaker 3: But even if it's five even if it's five percent
Speaker 3: of the people in the comments that get it right,
Speaker 3: if it's one to a thousand, I mean, that's that's like,
Speaker 3: you know, with the the random number generator, right like,
Speaker 3: whenever you're thinking about a number, you're almost project it,
Speaker 3: and somehow the random number generator reacts to that information somehow.
Speaker 4: Same idea, same things happening. How is like, I want
Speaker 4: to know how that works.
Speaker 3: Just tell me how you know, and I'll drop it.
Speaker 3: I think we're eventually going to get it. I think
Speaker 3: we probably already know it. That's the fun thing.
Speaker 4: So anyhow, going back off of.
Speaker 3: The that some scientists are now are now proposing that
Speaker 3: consciousness itself may be fun fundamental, not the product of matter,
Speaker 3: but the foundation of it. You have Roger Penrose and
Speaker 3: Stuart hammer Off. They propose orch dash o R that
Speaker 3: I guess it says that this means that microtubules in
Speaker 3: the brain interact with the quantum field to generate consciousness.
Speaker 4: Hm. Holy shito. You would think that they've gotten that
Speaker 4: far with this.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's probably happening at such an existential pace
Speaker 3: right now. But it says Donald Hoffman suggests that space, time,
Speaker 3: and matter are not fundamental, that consciousness is more real
Speaker 3: than Adams.
Speaker 4: That's a physicist that says that. So when you go
Speaker 4: somewhere through consciousness and you have an experience and it
Speaker 4: feels more real than real.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I want to look up because I think
Speaker 3: this is a physicist. Let me just double check, because
Speaker 3: I mean it says he's a scientist.
Speaker 4: I just don't know.
Speaker 3: Okay, So he is a cognitive psychologist.
Speaker 4: Oh. Interesting.
Speaker 3: So he studies consciousness, visual perception, and evolutionary psychology using
Speaker 3: mathematical models and psychophysical experiments.
Speaker 4: We need a guy like that on our show and
Speaker 4: just to really try to, at the very least try
Speaker 4: very hard to understand what he understands or she understands. Yeah,
Speaker 4: right right, because they're really trying to dig deep and
Speaker 4: understanding the almost I mean really the metaphysical understanding of
Speaker 4: why things are you know, I mean, if it's all
Speaker 4: through consciousness.
Speaker 3: Anyway, right, yeah, it would be interesting. And I bet
Speaker 3: you this is shit they think about all the time too, Oh,
Speaker 3: of course they do. The next person is Rupert Sheldrake,
Speaker 3: which I would love to do a whole show.
Speaker 4: On him some time because what a character. I think
Speaker 4: that he's actually still alive. Yeah. Interesting.
Speaker 3: So anyway, Rupert Sheldrake proposes that morphogenetic fields are patterns
Speaker 3: of information to transcend time and biology. They just are
Speaker 3: you know, yeah, yeah. And so Rupert Sheldrake, for anybody
Speaker 3: doesn't know, he is a parapsychology researcher, and he proposed
Speaker 3: the concept of morphic resonance, a conjecture that lacks mainstream
Speaker 3: acceptance and has been widely criticized as pseudoscience.
Speaker 4: Of course it is.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but he's actually so he's a parapsychological researcher and
Speaker 3: a biochemist.
Speaker 4: That's what was his name was on Ghostbusters the Parapsychologists.
Speaker 4: He was the one that was putting in the flash
Speaker 4: cards and he would.
Speaker 3: Shock him that's right, yeah, yeah, yeah, God, it's been
Speaker 3: so long since I've seen that. So anyhow, if all
Speaker 3: of these people what they say is true. Then consciousness
Speaker 3: is not in the universe. The universe is in consciousness.
Speaker 3: And suddenly we've come full circle.
Speaker 4: A little bit. Dude. That's great. Wow, that's great.
Speaker 3: So uh so, just to kind of wrap it all
Speaker 3: up a little bit right here. So omnipresence, it's quantum
Speaker 3: non locality. Omnipotence, it's the infinite potential of the wave function.
Speaker 3: Omniscience is the universal field of information, and oneness is
Speaker 3: what science has been describing.
Speaker 4: All a long.
Speaker 3: You can reject dogma and still arrive at divinity because
Speaker 3: the closer we look at matter, the less solid it becomes,
Speaker 3: and the deeper we dive into space, the more we
Speaker 3: find that we were never separate to begin with. So
Speaker 3: the real you is the one. The entire journey wasn't
Speaker 3: just to know God's properties. It was to remember what
Speaker 3: you already are. There's a quote from the from what
Speaker 3: was it the Hindu Scribes that says todd tavum asi,
Speaker 3: which translates to you are that that's cool. You are
Speaker 3: that it's like I am, and you are that same thing.
Speaker 3: Or if you go to a Psalm chapter forty six,
Speaker 3: verse ten, that says be still and know that I
Speaker 3: am God Luke seventeen twenty one. The Kingdom of God
Speaker 3: is within you. You're not seeking the divine, You are it,
Speaker 3: dreaming that you forgot and now you're waking up. So
Speaker 3: whether you call it God, Brahmin, the Doo, the Matrix,
Speaker 3: or the All or the one, just know you are
Speaker 3: not outside of it.
Speaker 4: You are it.
Speaker 3: This is the truth. Beneath every doctrine, every ritual, and
Speaker 3: every religion. There is no separation. There never was. You
Speaker 3: are not part of the universe. You are the universe
Speaker 3: having a U shaped experience. So to the one out there,
Speaker 3: stay mystical, stay curious, and remember the one you're looking
Speaker 3: for is the one who's looking.
Speaker 4: I love it. That's great, dude, And that also brings
Speaker 4: back around the why magic works. You know, like all
Speaker 4: this shit that we've been doing and coming to understand,
Speaker 4: like all of this stuff works man, because we.
Speaker 3: Are that because you are that, right, you know? I
Speaker 3: was actually I was telling and who was it? Yesterday
Speaker 3: on a Cult of Conspiracy episode. I was telling Jacob
Speaker 3: and our guest about the money spell that we did,
Speaker 3: and I said, some people may chalk that up to
Speaker 3: to a coincidence, but I didn't.
Speaker 4: I didn't look at it like that.
Speaker 3: I was like, I mean, I was blown away, don't
Speaker 3: get me wrong, you know about just how well it
Speaker 3: worked literally the next fucking day.
Speaker 4: It was crazy.
Speaker 3: But I think that it's it's all about awareness, intention,
Speaker 3: and energy. Those are the that is the whole, that
Speaker 3: is the the trifecta.
Speaker 4: Mm hmm it is. I mean, you're you're ahead.
Speaker 3: No, I was just gonna say, well, it takes your energy,
Speaker 3: it takes your intention, and it takes oh shit, what
Speaker 3: was the other one that I said?
Speaker 4: And your awareness?
Speaker 3: So your energy, intention and awareness, and I think that
Speaker 3: they all flow into each other and from each other
Speaker 3: and into each other and the whole thing. I think
Speaker 3: that it takes all three of them, because you can't
Speaker 3: have awareness and energy without the other one. And you
Speaker 3: can't have like, you can't have two and not the one.
Speaker 3: Like if you're trying to manifest, I believe that you
Speaker 3: need all three, the energy, the intention, and the awareness
Speaker 3: like that is that is the ingredients to manifesting.
Speaker 4: Mm hm. And you telling the universe or God or
Speaker 4: the unified field what you want to see, what you
Speaker 4: want to be aware of, you know, when you're putting
Speaker 4: energy into into just speaking those words and then paying attention,
Speaker 4: using your awareness to look for that, you're going to
Speaker 4: find it, I think, of course, yeah.
Speaker 3: And not only are you going to find it, you're
Speaker 3: going to find it through I don't even want to
Speaker 3: say through your lens, because your lens is going to
Speaker 3: get so cracked and so shaken and so thrown off
Speaker 3: a cliff and stepped on and trampled on by a
Speaker 3: hurd of fucking elephants so many times that you're you're
Speaker 3: essentially just going to be looking through a fragment of
Speaker 3: a shard of a tiny particle of glass that came
Speaker 3: from the monocle of your brain.
Speaker 4: And you know what I mean, it's going to.
Speaker 3: Get just destroyed every moment of every day. But whenever
Speaker 3: you finally have that tiny little dust particle of glass
Speaker 3: that came from the whole of the monocle that once was,
Speaker 3: it's like that is I believe that's the third eye, right,
Speaker 3: And that's why and that's why, like it all seems
Speaker 3: familiar because you're looking through every shared experience that your
Speaker 3: third eye has ever witnessed. And if we're looking at
Speaker 3: the third eye, call it the pineal gland, whatever it is,
Speaker 3: the antenna that brings all the information together. And yeah,
Speaker 3: I think that it's just beautiful.
Speaker 4: Dude.
Speaker 3: I love learning this kind of stuff. And you know
Speaker 3: what else is awesome. My god, I feel like we
Speaker 3: have come such a long way to be able to
Speaker 3: interpret a lot of this stuff. Imagine a year and
Speaker 3: a half ago.
Speaker 4: Oh, I was just thinking about this, probably just a
Speaker 4: few days ago. How you know if we look back
Speaker 4: in our first few weeks or first months and we
Speaker 4: were just, man, we really fucking didn't know. And I'm
Speaker 4: not even claiming that we know now, but she's, dude,
Speaker 4: a better grasp of it. At least I'm a long way. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and I think the very least trying to understand it
Speaker 4: through our own lens.
Speaker 3: And the one is obviously out there, the one out
Speaker 3: there listening. I'm sure that you know it's it's coming
Speaker 3: to you as well. If you've been following us on
Speaker 3: this whole journey, you've listened to all of, if not
Speaker 3: most of the episodes, then I hope that every single
Speaker 3: episode is an is a moment of epiphany. That's what
Speaker 3: we're searching for, Like we want to like.
Speaker 4: Stack them up.
Speaker 3: That's it, dude, So God, I love this journey. But anyway, Sean,
Speaker 3: what is that to aro cards?
Speaker 4: Sir?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 4: Yeah, we got the nine of swords swaths? All right,
Speaker 4: let's try and search shit. If it's worth it, I'll
Speaker 4: let me sert shit, all right. So the oh I
Speaker 4: went to the nine of cups. I'm tripping nine of swords,
Speaker 4: all right, here we go. Okay, so the nine of Swords?
Speaker 4: Oh interesting, Speaking of the dark Knight of the soul.
Speaker 3: The Nine of Swords an anxious mind leads to restless nights.
Speaker 3: Explore how you handle worry and stress to transform its impact.
Speaker 3: The challenging and fraught card, the Nine of Swords opens
Speaker 3: the floodgates to anxious thoughts and worries that keep you
Speaker 3: up at night. The figure on this card sits upright
Speaker 3: in bed, alone in the darkness, as nine swords dangle
Speaker 3: ominously above her head. Are these swords real or are
Speaker 3: they imagined worst case scenarios? The blanket that covers her
Speaker 3: depicts red roses, symbolic of love, showing that there is
Speaker 3: compassion surrounding her. If she would only uncover her eyes
Speaker 3: and see that's cool, right, that's a solid one the
Speaker 3: spiritual understanding. It says stress and anxiety you're taking a
Speaker 3: toll on your physical health. You may be feeling alone
Speaker 3: or spending too much time rummaging about the same things. Journaling,
Speaker 3: walking in nature, or spending time with others can help
Speaker 3: you work through these negative thoughts.
Speaker 4: Damn, that's a good one. M Just to realize that
Speaker 4: you're part of everything. You know. That blanket is the
Speaker 4: the like all encompassing, like it's it's there, it's right
Speaker 4: there in front of you, you know. But you're sitting there.
Speaker 3: Worried, right, And the thing is is that you know,
Speaker 3: our worry is just I mean it. Our worry is
Speaker 3: created by fear, you know what I mean, because we're
Speaker 3: fearing what is to come, and we don't know what
Speaker 3: the hell is to come. Like all fear, in all
Speaker 3: worry and all anxiety and all of that negativity, it's
Speaker 3: all because we think that we can predict the future
Speaker 3: in our mind, you know, but we can't. Like, if
Speaker 3: you're always present, there can't be anxiety, right, Anxiety can't
Speaker 3: exist in presence. So and that's what's fascinating about. So
Speaker 3: it's just like, stop living in the future. Every time
Speaker 3: you get anxiety. It's like, dude, you're making that up. Literally,
Speaker 3: you are making it up, you know. I mean, how
Speaker 3: many times have you worried? How many times have you
Speaker 3: worried about something? And like, what percentage of all the
Speaker 3: things that you've ever worried about actually came true?
Speaker 4: Slim to none, dude, slim to none. Right, that's actually
Speaker 4: really awesome. I never really thought about it like that
Speaker 4: as far, because we were talking about you know, when
Speaker 4: you observe it, that's when it collapses, you know. And
Speaker 4: here you are trying to predict the future, and of
Speaker 4: course you always tend to lean towards the worst case
Speaker 4: scenario for some fucked up reason. You know. I guess
Speaker 4: you enjoy the nightmare. I don't know. I don't know
Speaker 4: why you would want to do that. Maybe you tell
Speaker 4: yourself you're preparing for for what's to come, But all
Speaker 4: it is is just an infinite potentiality of what could be,
Speaker 4: you know, and then once you get to that point
Speaker 4: or that day or that whatever the thing is, that's
Speaker 4: when it collapses because now you're you're now you're there,
Speaker 4: you know, as if it's linear anyways, but you know
Speaker 4: what I mean.
Speaker 3: And there's and there's like I get it whenever some
Speaker 3: people are like, well you got to oh, what is it?
Speaker 3: Prepare for the worst, but hope for the best kind
Speaker 3: of situation, right, And I don't think that there's anything
Speaker 3: wrong with preparing for worst case scenario. But if it
Speaker 3: is causing you anxiety, and it's causing you to get
Speaker 3: out of the flow of which you're supposed to be in,
Speaker 3: then it's not necessarily a tool. It's more of a
Speaker 3: monster in the closet and now you're stuck in bed.
Speaker 3: But what is interesting about this card is the numerology
Speaker 3: of it, because it's the nine of swords, right. The
Speaker 3: nine means nearing completion. Ten is complete, right, and of
Speaker 3: course as soon as you which is ultimately just one yes,
Speaker 3: So once you once you completed, it's like, you know,
Speaker 3: the the full can go all the way, you know,
Speaker 3: go the full distance to the World card. But the
Speaker 3: World card essentially is a place for the full to start.
Speaker 4: Mm hm.
Speaker 3: And so it's like even this card saying like you
Speaker 3: know your your anxious mind leads to restless nights, explore
Speaker 3: how you handle a worry and stress to transform its impact.
Speaker 3: Nine is nearing completion, So even whatever you're worrying about
Speaker 3: no matter what, it's always almost over because you know
Speaker 3: it's over whenever it comes, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: And like, even if you did imagine the worst case
Speaker 3: scenario and that worst case scenario did manifest in real life,
Speaker 3: well now you no longer need to worry about it
Speaker 3: because it already happened. And that obviously that's why e's
Speaker 3: worse than done, but it does end your suffering.
Speaker 4: Mm hmm. Yeah, it definitely is easier said than done.
Speaker 4: But these are all just tools. Man. If you can
Speaker 4: bring your awareness to, you know, the understanding to these
Speaker 4: ways of dealing with things, then that's half the battle,
Speaker 4: you know, and then you can start from there and
Speaker 4: really try to understand that you don't need to worry
Speaker 4: so much, you know. And so that was great, man,
Speaker 4: that's great. That's a good one. That was a good episode.
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Speaker 4: There's the unified field, dude, we were just talking about it.
Speaker 4: I think we might know now, you know, or at
Speaker 4: least we're closer to knowing, because God is in all things.
Speaker 4: That's why, you know. Welcome to the game, baby.
Speaker 3: But yeah, we're gonna get over to the Meditation, So
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Speaker 4: But if not, then this.
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Speaker 3: Anything, it's that you don't know what you don't know,
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Speaker 5: Weird side mine, ordinary Beau color, soul stars, lie.
Speaker 4: In the mental mysteries your fund. All right, Sean, what
Speaker 4: do you think about that one? And we're back, dude,
Speaker 4: that was that was great. Man. My my body went
Speaker 4: to sleep. I'm almost certain of that, dude. I felt
Speaker 4: so relaxed. That was nice, man.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was great, dude. I really enjoy those tones.
Speaker 3: It's like a I. Every time I hear nine hundred
Speaker 3: and sixty three hertz, I just imagine being in the
Speaker 3: ocean in the dark.
Speaker 4: I felt like it got me there quick, man, you know,
Speaker 4: like within minutes, dude, just just there.
Speaker 3: You know, it's funny too. Off air, Sean asked. He
Speaker 3: was like, dude, can we just make this one ten
Speaker 3: minutes because you you know, worked all day and stuff
Speaker 3: like that.
Speaker 4: Dude.
Speaker 3: I opened my eyes whenever it was at nine minutes
Speaker 3: and like fifty two seconds, I was.
Speaker 4: Like knowing, dude, yeah, man, uh yeah, I don't know,
Speaker 4: I just uh, I was in that zone, dude, where
Speaker 4: things start to appear to me. You know. Obviously it's
Speaker 4: still still like I can't make any sense of what
Speaker 4: I was saying, but there was an experience I had
Speaker 4: just recently, man, and and it just reminded me of it.
Speaker 4: And so basically I was I was pretty much just
Speaker 4: trying to go to sleep, but I as I often
Speaker 4: find myself in some sort of meditative pondering and contemplating,
Speaker 4: and I it was really weird to right before this
Speaker 4: thing happened, it seemed like I stumbled upon something like
Speaker 4: some type of knowing or something, and then I like
Speaker 4: bounced to this other thing, and I was like connecting
Speaker 4: these things right, And then before I knew it, I
Speaker 4: could see the room, but my eyes were shut, like
Speaker 4: not the whole room, not the whole room, but like
Speaker 4: the ceiling, you know, and I can I in full color,
Speaker 4: like I could see the ceiling fan going, put the
Speaker 4: light on and everything else, but I was faced like
Speaker 4: away from it. So it definitely wasn't me opening my
Speaker 4: eyes ever so slightly and catching a glimpse of something
Speaker 4: like I wasn't facing that direction. I don't know why
Speaker 4: that keeps happening in particular, like is it the last
Speaker 4: thing I looked at right before I got into that
Speaker 4: meditative state and then I saw it? Or is it
Speaker 4: that my conscious or consciousness itself is showing me that
Speaker 4: because I'm tapping into outside of my normal ways of seeing,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. I don't know. It's very strong.
Speaker 4: It was so realistic. It was right there.
Speaker 3: Well, it's like, you know, the man that could see
Speaker 3: without his eyes exactly, like he was able to use
Speaker 3: his other senses to be able to see for him.
Speaker 3: So maybe that is what your other senses are picking up.
Speaker 4: On what that is, right, Yeah? Because it was it, dude,
Speaker 4: And it wasn't. It's it's weird because it wasn't my
Speaker 4: full feel, my full field of vision. It was like
Speaker 4: my eyes were closed, everything was dark, but then just
Speaker 4: this little almost like a cloud bubble of of like
Speaker 4: maybe it was going to fully develop and become my
Speaker 4: full field of vision, but it was just like this
Speaker 4: in this little area that I could see that going on.
Speaker 4: It was just a fan you know, And I was like,
Speaker 4: I'm still awake, I'm still consciously aware, and I know
Speaker 4: every time something like that happened, so I'm like, Okay,
Speaker 4: there's definitely something extra going on here, because it looked
Speaker 4: like what I would have seen if I was to
Speaker 4: just open my eyes, you know. But then as soon
Speaker 4: as see That's the thing that gets me though, this
Speaker 4: like as soon as I really try to pay attention
Speaker 4: to it and go oh, then it just disappeared and
Speaker 4: went away. So I don't know. Maybe other people have
Speaker 4: experienced that, but I don't know. It always seems like
Speaker 4: when I'm into this like deep contemplative state where something
Speaker 4: like that happens, or I'm not even necessarily trying to
Speaker 4: do it, it just happens.
Speaker 3: That's like even what the remote viewers say, it's like
Speaker 3: once they find out that they are doing it, they
Speaker 3: just suppose that they can, and so they almost got
Speaker 3: a little cocky about it, and then they can't see
Speaker 3: it anymore. It's almost like your lack of knowing and
Speaker 3: your lack of you know, whatever it is that is
Speaker 3: going on, is what powers up your ability to be
Speaker 3: able to witness that and see that kind of stuff.
Speaker 3: But as soon as you start like knowing, you can
Speaker 3: do it, and I've done it a thousand times. I
Speaker 3: know how to get there.
Speaker 4: It's like it gets in the way, now, you fucking
Speaker 4: don't you know, Yeah, it gets in the way. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I don't know. I don't see other than just knowing
Speaker 4: that that's something that is possible. I don't know what
Speaker 4: I would have gotten out of that, you know, like, Okay,
Speaker 4: I got to see an aspect of my bedroom, you know,
Speaker 4: but I really don't think it's uh my subconscious mind
Speaker 4: or or my mind filling in the gaps because maybe,
Speaker 4: you know, I can hear the fan going and so
Speaker 4: it's like, okay, let me give you a bit. I
Speaker 4: don't I don't think that that's what was happening. I
Speaker 4: honestly think I was seeing that in real time. You know. Yeah,
Speaker 4: it's possible.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I would say you probably were, you know,
Speaker 3: because what else would you be seeing?
Speaker 4: Right? Yeah, And then just recently before that was that
Speaker 4: little somewhat of an out of body experience, and so
Speaker 4: I don't know. Man, I think once you start doing
Speaker 4: these things, then it's like, but don't try too hard
Speaker 4: to do it, because, like you said, I think if
Speaker 4: you really tried, if I was if I was sitting
Speaker 4: there trying, Okay, let me see the ceiling, let me
Speaker 4: it's it's not going to happen for.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like reason, it's not an effort thing, it's
Speaker 3: an intention thing. And like you would think that effort
Speaker 3: and intention are very close cousins, right, But like you're
Speaker 3: not trying in like it's not like you're flexing your
Speaker 3: muscle to be able.
Speaker 4: To get there.
Speaker 3: It's just that you're setting an intention, very very simple,
Speaker 3: very easy. This is where I want to go, this
Speaker 3: is where I have my attention on, and there's no trying,
Speaker 3: it's just doing.
Speaker 4: Mm hmm, yeah, you know, almost just letting it happen.
Speaker 3: Really, yeah, yeah, I had. I had a couple of
Speaker 3: thoughts while I was in there. One of them was like, man,
Speaker 3: how awesome would it be that while you're listening And
Speaker 3: I thought about this, and I don't know if anybody's
Speaker 3: ever done it before, so if not, then don't steal
Speaker 3: it from a biac. But it's almost like Michael Jackson said,
Speaker 3: you know, he would stay up until two or three
Speaker 3: in the morning writing down lyrics because if not, then
Speaker 3: Prince would get them.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what he thought, right, because that information exists,
Speaker 3: and he he had a connection to it, that is,
Speaker 3: and he knew that Prince had that same like kind
Speaker 3: of connection. But I thought, like, man, how awesome would
Speaker 3: it be that while you're listening to a meditation like
Speaker 3: that and just in the whispers, almost as if it's
Speaker 3: in the corner of the room and in the background
Speaker 3: kind of thing, you hear Dolores Cannon say something just
Speaker 3: one like a one liner kind of quote, you know,
Speaker 3: and then every time you hear it, it's almost like, oh,
Speaker 3: now I'm deeper in meditation, you know.
Speaker 4: It's like something like that, or maybe you hear.
Speaker 3: Whoever your favorite person is, or maybe somebody you know
Speaker 3: gets like AI voice to like say a Jesus quote
Speaker 3: or something like that, or you know what I mean,
Speaker 3: Like ye, just those deeper, more phyliside kind of quotes
Speaker 3: that are happening while you're in meditation, you know, and
Speaker 3: essentially it's almost like like an affirmation as you're already deep,
Speaker 3: which is I mean? And those do exist, but it's
Speaker 3: not like specific quotes of Dolores, of Jesus, of Terence
Speaker 3: McKenna or you know somebody like that, which I would
Speaker 3: be like, you know, if you're ever going to put
Speaker 3: actual deep thought to try and align yourself with those quotes,
Speaker 3: the best way to be able to do it would
Speaker 3: be during meditation.
Speaker 4: Right. Oh, absolutely, you're You're way more suggestible and open. Yeah,
Speaker 4: because because oh dude, and in meditation, I am you
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. Of course you are.
Speaker 3: It's like you hear those things and it's like it's
Speaker 3: not even Oh that was Dolores Cannon, you know, a
Speaker 3: quote that she said at a conference in you know,
Speaker 3: in Russia in two thousand and three. No, it's like
Speaker 3: that shit's happening right now, and it may as well
Speaker 3: be my own damn thought, you.
Speaker 4: Know it, because it is kind of if you're everything,
Speaker 4: because it kind of is. It all comes from the
Speaker 4: same the same space. Man. Oh yeah, that's great. Man.
Speaker 4: I love this kind of shit. It's my It's probably
Speaker 4: my favorite thing. Yeah, you know, it's just a bummer.
Speaker 4: Sometimes you try to talk to other people about it
Speaker 4: and they're like, what are you talking about? You know,
Speaker 4: And I'm glad that we've created this space, you know,
Speaker 4: for these types of weird ass conversations, and you know.
Speaker 3: Look, it's it's not for everybody. I mean, it kind
Speaker 3: of is, but you know what I mean, But it's
Speaker 3: it's up to the person on their timeline and on
Speaker 3: their path. And I guarantee you that people one day
Speaker 3: will find this podcast twenty years in the future and
Speaker 3: they'll be like, Wow, you can really see the trajectory,
Speaker 3: the trajectory of understanding within these people. And then we
Speaker 3: start getting to the heavy hitting shit and they're like,
Speaker 3: oh my god, even my mind's being blown. Or maybe
Speaker 3: there's somebody that's starting out on their path, you know,
Speaker 3: ten years from now, and they go back and listen
Speaker 3: to episode one and they can kind of follow along
Speaker 3: on that same kind of journey. And that's really all
Speaker 3: we're trying to do over here, is just like kind
Speaker 3: of shine a light on a path. It might be
Speaker 3: the path, it might be your path, it might be
Speaker 3: everybody's path, but you know, it could be you know,
Speaker 3: just certain little keys that may unlock certain little doors
Speaker 3: within your mind.
Speaker 4: And that's all we're really trying to do. Yeah, dude,
Speaker 4: a little little goes a long way in this field.
Speaker 4: I think a dabble, do you. That's it, dude, that's it.
Speaker 4: I love it.
Speaker 3: So all right, Well, yeah, we're gonna wrap it up
Speaker 3: right there, and the next episode will.
Speaker 4: Be Wonder Wizday Baby, So forwarthly looking forward to that one.
Speaker 4: That's gonna be fun. But yeah, I guess we will
Speaker 4: see all on the flip side, I guess.
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