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Speaker 2: Welcome back to the Dan Caplis Show. In today, you
Speaker 2: have Sheriff Steve Riems covering for Dan, who's in another
Speaker 2: big important trial of some sort. And on today's day,
Speaker 2: it kind of feels a little weird standing in for
Speaker 2: Dan playing second string quarterback because, as you guys all know,
Speaker 2: Dan is a devout Catholic and on a day where
Speaker 2: we lose the Pope, Pope Francis, it only seems fitting
Speaker 2: that Dan would have been here to do this show.
Speaker 2: But you know, you can't predict what the future holds,
Speaker 2: and Dan has a busy schedule and unfortunately, the passing
Speaker 2: of Pope Francis is on a lot of people's minds today,
Speaker 2: especially those devout Catholics out there that are kind of
Speaker 2: wondering where the church is going to go next. And
Speaker 2: fortunately for me, I get a chance to interview Archbishop
Speaker 2: Samuel Aquela today, which will be an interesting topic for
Speaker 2: me because I don't know the Catholic religion all that well,
Speaker 2: but yeah, you know, I'd love to hear his comments
Speaker 2: on this, and he'll be up in the in the
Speaker 2: second half of this first hour four thirty six Mark
Speaker 2: or so. So if you're tuned in, staying around for that,
Speaker 2: because that's a pretty rare interview and a chance to
Speaker 2: get to do that one is one that again I
Speaker 2: wish Dan we're here to do it because it would
Speaker 2: means something very special to him to have those comments.
Speaker 2: But we're gonna do the best we can to keep
Speaker 2: it on the rails today and cover while Dan's gone.
Speaker 2: I have a large show planned today. We've got some
Speaker 2: pretty good guests coming on. We're gonna have Mark Lamb,
Speaker 2: who many of you all know from TV fame. He's
Speaker 2: the former sheriff of Penell County, Arizona. Mark is a
Speaker 2: teasing oftentimes when we're together and telling me never met
Speaker 2: a camera he couldn't ignore. But Mark is quite a
Speaker 2: media sensation, and now in his retirement, he's working for
Speaker 2: a group called the Federation for American Immigration Reform. So
Speaker 2: we're gonna have him on to talk a little bit
Speaker 2: about what immigration reform or immigration policy looks like in
Speaker 2: the United States at this point. And again, Mark's an excellent,
Speaker 2: excellent guy on the with media. Like I said, he
Speaker 2: never met a camera probably or a microphone that he
Speaker 2: could walk past. And I'll tell him that when he's
Speaker 2: on the show too. And then the last half of
Speaker 2: the show, we're gonna have State Rep from House District
Speaker 2: forty eight, Carlos Baron on to again keeps updated on
Speaker 2: what's going on down at the Capitol. You know, there's
Speaker 2: there's so many moving pieces of what's going on in
Speaker 2: Colorado and nationally right now that intertwine. It's kind of
Speaker 2: hard to keep it all straight. But you know, those
Speaker 2: things play together in a big way, especially with Trump
Speaker 2: going in one direction for our country and you know,
Speaker 2: our governor, potential future governor in Michael Bennett going another.
Speaker 2: You know, and over the weekend Trump Trump's team took
Speaker 2: a little bit of a sting with the Supreme Court
Speaker 2: temporarily blocking the Alien Enemies Act or the deportations under
Speaker 2: the Alien Enemies Act. And what temporary means, it's kind
Speaker 2: of hard to know, but I'm sure the Trump team's
Speaker 2: going to fire back and as soon as they get
Speaker 2: a chance in front of the Supreme Court. They're going
Speaker 2: to be ready to do battle and try to convince
Speaker 2: the Supreme Court that they are absolutely okay with their
Speaker 2: deportation of the trendy Aragua Gang and the MS thirteen Gang,
Speaker 2: Again a topic we're going to cover quite a bit today,
Speaker 2: but for the time being, it looks like things are
Speaker 2: screeching to a halt. That doesn't mean they're not still
Speaker 2: being rounded up and held in detention centers as rightfully
Speaker 2: they should be, but where they're going to go from
Speaker 2: there is still a little bit in question. But as
Speaker 2: I mentioned, we have a new potential candidate, or a
Speaker 2: new candidate he's announced, I don't need to say potential.
Speaker 2: He's probably the front runner candidate on the Democrat side
Speaker 2: of the wheel that plans on running for governor in
Speaker 2: the state of Colorado. And this guy, Michael Bennett, would
Speaker 2: like to like to lead you to believe that he's
Speaker 2: a change agent, that he's going to be the person
Speaker 2: who puts Colorado back on the right course and fixes
Speaker 2: all that is wrong with where Colorado has gotten. Unfortunately,
Speaker 2: he comes from the same party who's been steering this
Speaker 2: bus right off a cliff, and so it's really hard
Speaker 2: for me to understand how he's going to distance himself.
Speaker 2: But fortunately for us, even though Michael Bennett hasn't done
Speaker 2: much in the US Senate, I don't think he's done
Speaker 2: much in elected life, he has made some very choice
Speaker 2: radio cuts that I just kind of want to throw
Speaker 2: out here as a way to lay foundation for the
Speaker 2: show today, because again, Michael Bennett is going to be
Speaker 2: this reformer that comes in if elected and gets Colorado
Speaker 2: back on the tracks. In fact, we're so far off
Speaker 2: the tracks I don't even know if you can see
Speaker 2: him from where we're at now. But again, he's going
Speaker 2: to come in. He's going to change things. And before
Speaker 2: we get too far into the weeds with him, I
Speaker 2: just want to give this little bit of a flashback.
Speaker 2: So this is from twenty nineteen. It's cut twenty eight Ryan.
Speaker 3: When the Center from Texas shut this government down in
Speaker 3: twenty thirteen, my stay was flooded, it was underwater. People
Speaker 3: were killed, people's houses were destroyed, their small businesses were
Speaker 3: ruined forever. And because of the Senator from Texas, this
Speaker 3: government was shut down for politics that he served to
Speaker 3: a second place finish in the Iowa.
Speaker 4: Caucuses, but were of no help.
Speaker 3: To the first responders, to the teachers, to the students
Speaker 3: whose schools were closed with the federal government that was
Speaker 3: shut down because of the junior senator from Texas. Now,
Speaker 3: it's his business, not my business, why he supports a
Speaker 3: president who wants to erect a medieval barrier on the
Speaker 3: border of Texas, who wants to use eminent domain to
Speaker 3: build that wall, who wants to declare an unconstitutional emergency
Speaker 3: to build that wall. That's the business of the senator
Speaker 3: from Texas.
Speaker 5: I can assure you.
Speaker 3: Is that in Colorado, if a president said he was
Speaker 3: going to use eminent domain to erect the barrier across
Speaker 3: the state of Colorado, across the rocky Mountains of Colorado,
Speaker 3: he was going to steal the property of our farmers
Speaker 3: and ranchers to build his medieval wall, there wouldn't be
Speaker 3: an elected leader from our state they would support that idea.
Speaker 2: So let's take a few things from that. Of course,
Speaker 2: Michael Bennett sounds like he's throwing a temper tantrum, and
Speaker 2: apparently that's his big boy voice. That's kind of the
Speaker 2: way he describes it in some other interviews with Kyle
Speaker 2: Clark and others. But you know, I was around in
Speaker 2: twenty thirteen when those floods happened. Is I'm sure most
Speaker 2: of you out there in the listening land were I
Speaker 2: was boots on the ground in Weld County. Was the
Speaker 2: captain or bureau chief at that time, it was the
Speaker 2: title of our patrol division. So when that flood swept
Speaker 2: through Weld County, I was definitely in the midst of
Speaker 2: trying to figure out how do we get through this emergency.
Speaker 2: And I don't remember seeing Michael Bennett. I don't remember
Speaker 2: seeing any of the state elected leaders. If you will
Speaker 2: come down to Welld County. We work things out on
Speaker 2: our own. We did work very closely with some state agencies,
Speaker 2: with the colorad of State Patrol and others, but that
Speaker 2: was a rescue mission. That was a mission to make
Speaker 2: sure that people were getting the help they needed, and
Speaker 2: we weren't too worried about where Michael Bennett was. I
Speaker 2: just find it funny that he talks about how much
Speaker 2: he was concerned in twenty thirteen and then fast forward
Speaker 2: that he's all against a border wall. You know, he
Speaker 2: doesn't want anything to do with the border wall. Well,
Speaker 2: it's funny how time changes from twenty nineteen to now,
Speaker 2: because we have several polls out that show as high
Speaker 2: as seventy percent of the US population believe, Hey, we
Speaker 2: need to stop this illegal immigration thing and get people
Speaker 2: moving in their own direction or back home. Meanwhile, you know,
Speaker 2: we've got this guy saying, well, we don't need a
Speaker 2: border wall. I'm curious what his stance will be when
Speaker 2: he finally gets out on the campaign trail if he
Speaker 2: gets a question about where I legal immigration is all about.
Speaker 2: But before we go to break, I want to play
Speaker 2: one more cut twenty nine if you would ryan.
Speaker 3: Many of America's most expensive places to live, where opportunity
Speaker 3: is most limited, are run by your party, including Colorado.
Speaker 4: How does your party fix that?
Speaker 6: That is a fact.
Speaker 7: We have to be for building more housing. We have
Speaker 7: to be for building housing that's less expensive. We have
Speaker 7: to be for reducing regulations so that it doesn't take
Speaker 7: years and years and years for people to build housing
Speaker 7: all over the state. One of the things that I
Speaker 7: loved about being superintendent of schools in Denver was that
Speaker 7: I never met a teacher who.
Speaker 4: Didn't live in Denver.
Speaker 8: It was emphatically not Seattle, it was emphatically not San Francisco.
Speaker 8: Now all over Colorado there are people that are having
Speaker 8: to drive two hours to get to work. We're turning
Speaker 8: into California, and with all respect to California, I don't
Speaker 8: want Colorado to turn into California.
Speaker 2: Just like the last the last cut, we've got Michael
Speaker 2: Bennett kind of speaking out attorney. He doesn't really know,
Speaker 2: you know, truly what's going on. He's talking about Colorado
Speaker 2: becoming California. I don't know about becoming. It seems like
Speaker 2: we're already there. And again his party is driving the bus.
Speaker 2: What's going to be different if he's in the driver's seat.
Speaker 2: That'll be the great setup for our next guest, Mark Lamb,
Speaker 2: the former Panell County Sheriff, will be on with us.
Speaker 2: After the break. We're gonna go ahead and cut away,
Speaker 2: but you're listening to Dan Caplis hosted by Steve Riems,
Speaker 2: Weld County Sheriff on six thirty K how.
Speaker 5: And now back to the Dan Taplass Show podcast.
Speaker 2: Welcome back to the Dan Caplis Show. You got Sheriff
Speaker 2: Steve Riams setting in today taking the driver's seat and
Speaker 2: up on our hotline, we've got Sheriff Mark Lamb from
Speaker 2: Panell County, Arizona. He's retired sheriff And just to give
Speaker 2: everybody a little bit of understanding about who Mark Lamb is.
Speaker 2: As I said in the earlier segment, he never met
Speaker 2: a camera or a microphone that he could walk past.
Speaker 2: So this should be a great interview today. And I
Speaker 2: told the listeners I'd say that while you were on
Speaker 2: the air too, because I say it to your face.
Speaker 2: But Mark's a great friend and we're having him on
Speaker 2: the show today because he works for a group called
Speaker 2: the Federation for American Immigration Reform, But mostly we just
Speaker 2: want to get his take on where the immigration status
Speaker 2: is in the United States and how those things impact
Speaker 2: the state of Colorado as well. So Mark, welcome to
Speaker 2: the show, and how you doing.
Speaker 9: Thanks for having me on, Steve. And I wish I
Speaker 9: could deny.
Speaker 2: What you you can't.
Speaker 9: I've always believed that if you have a fastball, you
Speaker 9: should throw it, and so if you have a voice,
Speaker 9: you should probably say. So whatever you're supposed to say,
Speaker 9: what does Abraham Lincoln say to sertain by silence when
Speaker 9: they should protest? Makes cowards of men?
Speaker 2: That's it. That's it.
Speaker 9: If the camera's going to listen and they're going to
Speaker 9: print it, I'm going to say it.
Speaker 2: I can respect that. And out of the two of us,
Speaker 2: I definitely have a face for radio. You have a
Speaker 2: face for TV. So I'll take that as well. So
Speaker 2: so Mark again, thanks for coming on the show. You
Speaker 2: know what, There's been a lot going on over the weekend.
Speaker 2: We saw the Supreme Court put a temporary block on
Speaker 2: Trump's use of the Alien Enemies Act and kind of
Speaker 2: stop those those planes from heading down to El Salvador.
Speaker 2: But you know, truly the administration is getting a lot
Speaker 2: of wins right now. And under your work for the
Speaker 2: Federation for American Immigration Reform, I know you spend a
Speaker 2: lot of time at the Capitol. How are things going
Speaker 2: in your mind? You know, is this administration getting the
Speaker 2: home runs it needs? And where do you see the
Speaker 2: biggest effort for where this administration needs to go in
Speaker 2: the future. When we're talking about these designated terrorist organizations
Speaker 2: like trendy Arragua and MS thirteen.
Speaker 9: Well, over all, great questions, Steve, and look, you can't
Speaker 9: go into something. I believe that you're not going to
Speaker 9: take any punches to the face while you're at it.
Speaker 9: I think they are hitting home runs, and I think
Speaker 9: they're doing the things that the American people want them
Speaker 9: to do, and we knew that some of these things
Speaker 9: were going to come with challenges. There are groups that
Speaker 9: are held bent on keeping people that shouldn't be in
Speaker 9: this country here. They worked really hard to bring those
Speaker 9: people here in the first place, and they're not going
Speaker 9: to just let you send them home that easily. I've
Speaker 9: been encouraged by some of the decisions from some of
Speaker 9: the courts. I've been discouraged. I think some of the
Speaker 9: courts have engaged in political agendas, and I think they've
Speaker 9: encroached severely on the executive branch's ability to do what
Speaker 9: they have to do. But overall, I think that this
Speaker 9: administration is winning. I think that they are clearly they've
Speaker 9: had a positive effect on the border. We're going to
Speaker 9: getting people out of this country is going to be
Speaker 9: a little bit harder than getting them in. And the
Speaker 9: last thing I'll say and turn it back over to you,
Speaker 9: is where were all these judges when it came time
Speaker 9: to vet people that were coming to this country unvetted?
Speaker 9: And while people were striving to find relief, the judges
Speaker 9: were nowhere to be found, And now when it comes
Speaker 9: to keeping people that came into this country illegally in
Speaker 9: this country, they're more than willing to make decisions.
Speaker 2: Yeah, to the to the point of trying to bring
Speaker 2: people back into our country who have no citizenship here
Speaker 2: to begin with. But you know, Mark, I know as
Speaker 2: a sheriff down in Arizona, you dealt with this on
Speaker 2: the front lines. If you would kind of tell the
Speaker 2: callers a little bit about where Panell County is situated
Speaker 2: and what your eight years in office were like as
Speaker 2: you were dealing with this immigration crisis, I won't say
Speaker 2: on the front lines, but pretty darn close. Just kind
Speaker 2: of inform the listeners of what your perspective on this
Speaker 2: issue comes from.
Speaker 9: Sure, So, Panal County is the third largest county in
Speaker 9: the state of Arizona. There's only fifteen. The county is
Speaker 9: the side of the state of the Connecticut. It is
Speaker 9: between Phoenix and Tucson. We were not on the border,
Speaker 9: but we were fifty two miles off the border where
Speaker 9: the Indian Reservation is. That is our closest point. Seventy
Speaker 9: one miles off the border where the I ten the
Speaker 9: interstate intertected with our county law and what we've dealt
Speaker 9: with the first forty years were very different than the
Speaker 9: second four years. Yeah, I can imagine four years under
Speaker 9: President Trump. You know, my anti smuggling unit would come
Speaker 9: into us and say, hey, you're not going to disband
Speaker 9: our unit, right, but we're working hard, we're trying to
Speaker 9: find them. They're just not there. Because the Trump's administration's
Speaker 9: policies were working, they were building the wall. There was
Speaker 9: a lot of positive things that literally changed overnight. I'm
Speaker 9: not being dramatic, I'm not over exaggerating. Overnight. We saw
Speaker 9: a tremendous change. Immediately, we saw tens of thousands of
Speaker 9: people showing up. It was uncontrolled on the freeways where
Speaker 9: we were having people come up. Because anybody comes in
Speaker 9: on the south end of Arizona, whether it's the drugs
Speaker 9: of the humans, at some point they are eighty five
Speaker 9: ninety percent of the time they're going to come through
Speaker 9: Penaw County to get to Phoenix. And so what we
Speaker 9: were dealing with was, especially if you have counties to
Speaker 9: the south of you that are not engaged in trying
Speaker 9: to stop any of this human trafficking or drug craftking,
Speaker 9: they were becoming unfettered on the freeways. You know, my
Speaker 9: guys could pull up. It was like shooting fish in
Speaker 9: a barrel on the freeway. Vehicle of that were human
Speaker 9: load vehicles. And the second thing was we saw a
Speaker 9: shift to where they used to traffic a lot of
Speaker 9: the drugs and the people through the desert. They no
Speaker 9: longer had that of the last four years, still did it.
Speaker 9: That's where they brought out of the people they tried
Speaker 9: to keep from us knowing about the people that we
Speaker 9: should really be concerned about, and they were pushing them
Speaker 9: right through there. But now we're shifted back and now
Speaker 9: we're seeing them coming through the desert areas, the cartels
Speaker 9: having to push them back through those more remote areas
Speaker 9: through the Indian reservation.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So to make things clear, it's not that they
Speaker 2: have completely given up on trying to bring people across
Speaker 2: the border, smuggle people across the border, but the harder
Speaker 2: it is, the harder they have to work at it.
Speaker 2: And I think I think that's the goal. You know, Mark,
Speaker 2: with the Federation for American Immigration Reform, where do you
Speaker 2: see that effort going? And there's a lot of talk about, hey,
Speaker 2: should we just support everybody, should we find a pathway
Speaker 2: to citizenship. Where does fair stand on that issue?
Speaker 9: You know, for believe that there should be some common
Speaker 9: sense immigration or form. They understand that the immigration system
Speaker 9: needs to be you know, there needs Congress and Senate.
Speaker 9: There's two pieces to this for people that don't understand this.
Speaker 9: There is the border security piece, which is probably going
Speaker 9: to be more of the executive branch function where you
Speaker 9: protect people from coming to this country that shouldn't be
Speaker 9: here illegally. Sure, then you have the immigration piece that's
Speaker 9: going to be the piece that's dealt with throughslat the
Speaker 9: legislative side that's going to be Congress and Senate got
Speaker 9: to come up with some common sense reform. The amount
Speaker 9: of people that we allow to come into this country
Speaker 9: legally is a low number, and I think sometimes we
Speaker 9: don't do a very good job of saying, here's what
Speaker 9: we need. Let's look and see who we can let
Speaker 9: into our country legally so we know who's here and
Speaker 9: give them every opportunity to have part of the American dream.
Speaker 9: But the way it's been done, that affair is not
Speaker 9: for them because what you've had let people into this
Speaker 9: country illegally, which means that they are likely going to
Speaker 9: take advantage of programmed illegally. If they work in this
Speaker 9: country without permission, they're not paying taxes. Most likely, if
Speaker 9: they are not paying taxes, that's against the law. They
Speaker 9: are oftentimes taking advantage of those programs Medicare, social Security.
Speaker 9: If they are working legally, that means they probably have
Speaker 9: a faith or a stolen Social Security number. And then
Speaker 9: you talk about driving without a license, no insurance, and
Speaker 9: then the list goes on and on. So even those
Speaker 9: people that are good people that wanted a better life,
Speaker 9: because they didn't do it the legal way, that's a problem.
Speaker 9: The other thing Fair believes in is is law enforcement
Speaker 9: working in conjunction with the federal government. How the simplest
Speaker 9: way is the two to eighty seven G program, which
Speaker 9: I'm sure you've talked about a lot on your program,
Speaker 9: which gives local law enforcement shaff the ability to work
Speaker 9: with the federal government stept.
Speaker 2: In Colorado and Mark, we got a hard break, so
Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to cut away from here, but thanks
Speaker 2: for being on the show with us. Two eighty seven
Speaker 2: G is a great program. Needs to come back to Colorado.
Speaker 2: But Mark lanb thanks again for being on the show.
Speaker 2: You're listening to Dan Kaplis on six thirty K.
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Speaker 2: Welcome back to the Dan Capless Show. You're sitting in
Speaker 2: with Steve Reems. His guest host today Weld County Sheriff,
Speaker 2: and we're gonna just jump right into this next guest.
Speaker 2: Very honored to be able to speak with the Denver Archbishop,
Speaker 2: Archbishop Samuel Aquilla. You know, unfortunately the circumstances aren't so
Speaker 2: great because the passing of Pope Francis. But Archbishop, thanks
Speaker 2: for being on the show with us, and I would
Speaker 2: just like to hear from you about how this passing
Speaker 2: of Pope Francis kind of impacts you personally and how
Speaker 2: you see it from the physician you're in with the
Speaker 2: city of Denver.
Speaker 6: Sure well, certainly I was surprised, like everyone else to
Speaker 6: wake up to the news that Pope Francis had died
Speaker 6: early Friday morning in Rome, and in that it was
Speaker 6: you know, I'd watched him give the blessing for Easter
Speaker 6: and also saw the clip of he meeting with Vice
Speaker 6: President Vance and it seemed like, you know, he was
Speaker 6: still on the mend from his illness and all, and
Speaker 6: so the news came as quite a surprise. And with that,
Speaker 6: certainly he will be remembered as a pope who emphasized
Speaker 6: the importance of mercy, of forgiveness, as one who reached
Speaker 6: out to those in the prip freeze. Uh. He was
Speaker 6: the first Holy Father from Latin America and and so
Speaker 6: h that too was uh unique about his papacy. And
Speaker 6: then just the impact that he had in constantly inviting
Speaker 6: us to be aware of those who live on the
Speaker 6: peripheries of the world, the homeless, the poor, the immigrant,
Speaker 6: the unborn, and of being those who give witness uh
Speaker 6: to everyone that we meet. And uh that the message
Speaker 6: of the Gospel was very much one that impacted his life,
Speaker 6: that he gave us life for and we two or
Speaker 6: call to imitate that and to live that out in
Speaker 6: our own lives.
Speaker 2: Yeah, very poignant words. You know, the world is mourning
Speaker 2: this passage right now, as well as obviously the United
Speaker 2: States the state of Colorado. But I'm sure in your
Speaker 2: position as the archbishop for Denver, your your messaging to
Speaker 2: your your followers has to be one of uh kind
Speaker 2: of how do we how do we move through this?
Speaker 2: How do we mourn in the correct way? And how
Speaker 2: do we transition to the selection process for the next pope.
Speaker 2: How do you balance those things with your with your followers,
Speaker 2: and and how do you message that in a way
Speaker 2: that that keeps people positive and moving in the right direction.
Speaker 2: And I know you're probably struggling with that now, this
Speaker 2: being so fresh, but it's got to be on your
Speaker 2: mind if I'm I'm correct.
Speaker 6: One of the most important things that he spoke to
Speaker 6: throughout his papacy with the importance of Jesus Christ, Christ
Speaker 6: in the centrality of Christ, the fact that he was
Speaker 6: called back to the home of the Father at the
Speaker 6: Easter sees in the day after we have celebrated the
Speaker 6: resurrection of Jesus Christ, and especially in this Jubilee Year
Speaker 6: of Hope, in which his personal hope for that jubilee
Speaker 6: was that every person in the world would encounter Jesus
Speaker 6: Christ in a personal way and in a way that
Speaker 6: changes our lives and touches our lives, so that we
Speaker 6: put our faith in Jesus Christ as truly the Son
Speaker 6: of God and the Savior of the world. And so
Speaker 6: that alone gives us great hope. That yes, there is
Speaker 6: sadness and sorrow in his passing, but we also know
Speaker 6: that the Lord assures us that the those who mourn
Speaker 6: shall be comforted, and that where we find our comfort
Speaker 6: is in the promises of Jesus Christ and all that
Speaker 6: he fulfills, and that we continue to live that message.
Speaker 6: And the greatest way that we could honor him is
Speaker 6: by deepening our own encounter with Christ and by reaching
Speaker 6: out to those who are poor, who are hurting, who
Speaker 6: are broken, who are wounded, and giving them hope and
Speaker 6: the hope of the Gospel.
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you. And on the line with us is
Speaker 2: the Archbishop for Daniel Denver, Samuel Akoela, and he's just
Speaker 2: sharing with us sum of the thoughts and processes that
Speaker 2: he's working through as the art ch Bishop for Denver
Speaker 2: and moving forward with the Catholic Church in the passing
Speaker 2: of Pope Francis. In just a few minutes that we
Speaker 2: have left, Archbishop, as you're you know, we kind of
Speaker 2: talked about how do you move forward you personally, I
Speaker 2: mean you have to have a chance to deal with
Speaker 2: this on your own personal level. Did you ever have
Speaker 2: any direct interaction with Pope Francis, And even if not,
Speaker 2: kind of what does this mean to you on a
Speaker 2: personal level?
Speaker 6: Sure, I had met with Pope Francis at The longest
Speaker 6: meeting I was in with him was during our Limina visit.
Speaker 6: It was right before COVID, and it was about an
Speaker 6: hour and a half long meeting.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 6: And it was a group of the bishops from the region,
Speaker 6: and we had a very engaging conversation about the sacramental
Speaker 6: life of the Church, about the importance of evangelization, the
Speaker 6: importance of reaching out to others, inviting them and to
Speaker 6: encounter Jesus and to accompany them in whatever walk of
Speaker 6: life or stay of life they might find themselves. The
Speaker 6: gospel message isn't just for those who put their faith
Speaker 6: in Christ, but the gospel message is for all peoples.
Speaker 6: And so the Holy Father. And then I met him
Speaker 6: a few times after that, in brief meetings of greeting
Speaker 6: him and saying hello to him, and in those encounters
Speaker 6: he would give me encouragement and support in the ministry
Speaker 6: that had that The Lord had entrusted me too, and
Speaker 6: so you know, certainly he strengthened me in my ministry
Speaker 6: by his message. And I was one who encouraged bishops
Speaker 6: to really serve others as Christ served.
Speaker 2: Well, I couldn't thank you more for coming on the
Speaker 2: show with us and sharing your thoughts. I know your
Speaker 2: time is extremely valuable, especially on a day like this,
Speaker 2: and we all mourn with you at the loss of
Speaker 2: Pope Francis. And again, thank you for coming on. I
Speaker 2: really wish Dan had been here to do this interview
Speaker 2: because you mean a lot to him.
Speaker 6: But well, thank you.
Speaker 2: Thank you again for coming on the show.
Speaker 6: And hey, you're welcome.
Speaker 2: We appreciate it a lot. Thank you, sir. That was
Speaker 2: Archbishop Samuel Aquilla. And with that we'll break and when
Speaker 2: we come back, we'll kind of wrap up this first hour.
Speaker 2: And you're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show here on
Speaker 2: six thirty KHW with Weld Kenny, Sheriff Steve Raams as
Speaker 2: guest host.
Speaker 5: And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.
Speaker 2: You're back with the Dan Kaplas Show. He had Sheriff
Speaker 2: Steve Raams setting in in the driver's seat today filling
Speaker 2: in for Dan while he's out working some important casework.
Speaker 2: And we'll just wrap up that first hour. I got
Speaker 2: to tell you, as a sheriff, I've interviewed people from
Speaker 2: all walks of life, but typically about criminal issues or
Speaker 2: you know, witnesses to criminal issues. In my entire life,
Speaker 2: I never thought I'd be interviewing the arch the Denver
Speaker 2: Archbishop of the Catholic Church, about the death of Pope Francis.
Speaker 2: But in all fairness, he probably never thought he'd be
Speaker 2: interviewed by a sheriff about that same comment. So we
Speaker 2: managed to get through it, and I thought his comments
Speaker 2: were amazing, you know. It's it's obviously has a life
Speaker 2: of devotion that is unparalleled, and his personal interactions with
Speaker 2: Pope Francis I thought were pretty interesting myself.
Speaker 10: Who do you think was more nervous, the archbishop being
Speaker 10: interviewed by sriff or the shriff interviewing the arch bit shop.
Speaker 2: I don't know. We'll have to arm rustle that out later.
Speaker 2: I'm guessing it was probably me. I don't think much
Speaker 2: rattles that guy.
Speaker 4: I think you did a great job man.
Speaker 10: You know, I told you I was really fascinated by
Speaker 10: the personal story he told by the question that you
Speaker 10: asked about his interactions with Pope Francis, and that was
Speaker 10: very revealing and very insightful and really gave it a
Speaker 10: local flavor for those that are members of the Catholic
Speaker 10: Church here in Denver.
Speaker 2: Well, thanks, Ryan, And you know, the process that they
Speaker 2: go through for selecting the next Pope is not exactly
Speaker 2: quick by any sense of the word. I think they
Speaker 2: spend nine days. Morning Pope Francis is lost, there'll be
Speaker 2: a funeral sometime in the four to six day period,
Speaker 2: and then they'll do the conclave process where all the
Speaker 2: cardinals from around the world come in to the Vatican
Speaker 2: and they basically lock down behind doors and take multiple
Speaker 2: rounds of votes. I guess up to four votes a
Speaker 2: day until they pick on the next Pope. And you know,
Speaker 2: there's a lot of talk out there about the Catholic
Speaker 2: Church having a little bit of a political process to it,
Speaker 2: and I guess that's kind of where it comes from.
Speaker 2: But not being a Catholic myself, you know, I've had
Speaker 2: to study up on this quite a bit today. But nonetheless,
Speaker 2: I think Pope Francis, any pope for that matter, means
Speaker 2: a lot to the direction of the world and specifically
Speaker 2: to us here in America that you know, are primarily
Speaker 2: Christian nation. So seeing who will be the next pope
Speaker 2: will be interesting, but not without due time of laying
Speaker 2: the laying Pope Francis to rest and giving him his
Speaker 2: due deference. So yeah, an interesting interview. I never thought
Speaker 2: i'd be interviewing the Archbishop of Denver, but you know,
Speaker 2: that's the fun of live radio and setting in in
Speaker 2: the backup quarterback seat. So again, I wish Dan could
Speaker 2: have been here for that interview. I think I think
Speaker 2: that would have been a lot to him. It meant
Speaker 2: a lot to me, so I can't imagine what it
Speaker 2: would have meant to Dan. On our text line at
Speaker 2: five seven, seven, three nine, text Dan first before you
Speaker 2: send something in. We've got quite a few texts coming in. Also,
Speaker 2: we'll be taking some calls in the next hour three
Speaker 2: oh three seven one, three eight, two five five. I'd
Speaker 2: love to have some exchanges with you, especially where you
Speaker 2: stand on illegal immigration, how you're thinking, how you think
Speaker 2: it impacts the state of Colorado, or how it impacts
Speaker 2: our nation. Are you in support of deporting everyone who's
Speaker 2: here illegally? Is there some is there some mix in between?
Speaker 2: I think the latest polls say fifty six percent of
Speaker 2: the American public are all for pushing everyone who's here
Speaker 2: illegally out of the country. And we know there's ten
Speaker 2: or eleven million that came in in the last four years,
Speaker 2: So that's a that's a heavy burden to lift. I
Speaker 2: guess seventy percent or somewhere in the well, we'd like
Speaker 2: the deportation idea, but there's probably also a mix of
Speaker 2: creating a pathway to citizenship. I'm probably more in that area.
Speaker 2: I think there are some good people that are here
Speaker 2: that probably deserve to stay here, probably benefit our country
Speaker 2: to stay here, but maybe made a mistake in the
Speaker 2: way they got here in the first place. But again,
Speaker 2: that's a hard starting point, even for me. So some
Speaker 2: of the texts today it says this is from Alexi,
Speaker 2: I believe it says at Do Better Denver posted that
Speaker 2: some das are downcharging drug traffickers to misdemeanor crimes that
Speaker 2: are immigration friendly so they will not be deported. They ask,
Speaker 2: what are my thoughts. Must be frustrating to get criminals
Speaker 2: arrested only to have das not prosecute appropriately. Yeah, that's
Speaker 2: a huge point of frustration for I think anybody in
Speaker 2: law enforcement. But another factor that's just as frustrating is
Speaker 2: the bond reform we saw in the state of Colorado.
Speaker 2: And I use the term reform very loosely, because criminals
Speaker 2: right now basically have a revolving door unless they've done
Speaker 2: the most heinous of crimes, and even then they're going
Speaker 2: to get a bond in this state. So murder gets
Speaker 2: a bond. So take that as the starting point and
Speaker 2: then say, okay, well, when all these criminals are being arrested,
Speaker 2: we can't hold them in jail. We can't really keep
Speaker 2: them there until their trial date. What is the likelihood
Speaker 2: that we're going to be able to knock crime down
Speaker 2: in the state of Colorado. It's very low. And then
Speaker 2: you take things like drug trafficking or drug charges in
Speaker 2: general and put those up against trials for murderers or rapists,
Speaker 2: you know which which one's going to take priority. Oftentimes
Speaker 2: the drug offender falls to the lower level. And so yeah,
Speaker 2: huge point of frustration. Alex also asked if I would
Speaker 2: do a taxpayer release shot for Michael Brown. I tried
Speaker 2: to set that up probably two years ago, and for
Speaker 2: whatever reason, Michael didn't keep in contact with me. So
Speaker 2: I'll leave that on his plate to figure out if
Speaker 2: he wants to do that at some point.
Speaker 4: Well, what about an intermediary in the form of Dragon.
Speaker 2: Well, sure, I'm good with whatever you know. Michael hasn't
Speaker 2: always had the nicest words to say about me. But
Speaker 2: besides all that, I don't I don't think he has
Speaker 2: a lot of nice words to say about anybody.
Speaker 4: Then when did he get curmudgeonally with you or about you?
Speaker 2: I think he was a little upset that I wouldn't
Speaker 2: be more vocal about. You know, you want to come
Speaker 2: take our guns? Well, you're are you going to come
Speaker 2: break into houses into in Weld County. You're going to
Speaker 2: get shot if you do, so, you know that. I
Speaker 2: don't know. I think a lot of that's playing it
Speaker 2: for a camera. People know where I stand on the
Speaker 2: on the Second Amendment. I think they know where I
Speaker 2: stand on law and order and doing those those what
Speaker 2: I'll call money shots for for for voters. That's not
Speaker 2: really of my cupet. That's not really my cup of tea.
Speaker 10: What you describe is what we've seen and heard a
Speaker 10: lot from Sheriff Graedy Judd.
Speaker 4: Yeah, down in Florida County, Florida.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's his stick. He can keep it, you know.
Speaker 2: I'm I've made it as easy as I can for
Speaker 2: people in my in my county to get concealed weapons permits.
Speaker 2: I wish we were a constitutional carry state. So that's
Speaker 2: the way I look at it. The more people that
Speaker 2: have guns, the pliighter that our society is going to be.
Speaker 2: And and that's kind of my stance on it. I
Speaker 2: don't know that I need to do a commercial on
Speaker 2: my Facebook page to make that known. But I'm more
Speaker 2: than happy to engage with Michael Brown. But he's got
Speaker 2: to return the favor. So on the other side of this,
Speaker 2: it says, sheriff, take a picture of Bennett and a
Speaker 2: picture of Ted Cruz, which is who Bennett was referring
Speaker 2: to on the audio Cliff we paid at the played
Speaker 2: at the top of the top of the show says,
Speaker 2: take the take a photo of each of those to
Speaker 2: DIA and ask one hundred colorad Ons who these men are.
Speaker 2: My guest is seventy percent would recognize Crews and five
Speaker 2: percent would recognize Bennett. That's that's probably about right. That's
Speaker 2: from Patty. Patty. I would love to go out to
Speaker 2: the airport and live film that just so we could
Speaker 2: replay it. That would be a great spot on Facebook. Hey,
Speaker 2: who's this guy? Who's this guy? You know? Bennett would
Speaker 2: have to be on a on a milk carton for
Speaker 2: anybody to recognize him, and then the last one here
Speaker 2: or one of the last ones here, Steve, I'd love
Speaker 2: to know where Bennett was when the Colorado floods happened.
Speaker 2: My bet was he stayed in DC. Well, I know
Speaker 2: where he wasn't If he was in my county, he
Speaker 2: wasn't making himself well known. So having said all that,
Speaker 2: I was all over the place during the floods in
Speaker 2: twenty thirteen, and I never ran into the guy. So
Speaker 2: I'm not going to say he wasn't there, but I
Speaker 2: didn't see him. So we'll be back in the next hour.
Speaker 2: I've got a guest scheduled to talk a little bit
Speaker 2: about what's going on the state cap but we'll keep
Speaker 2: it on the Immigration Talk. You're listening to Dan Kaplos
Speaker 2: with Sheriff Steve Raims his guest host