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<v Speaker 1>This is Dan Capless and welcome to today's online podcast

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<v Speaker 1>edition of The Dan Caplis Show. Please be sure to

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back to the Dan Caplis Show. In today, you

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<v Speaker 2>have Sheriff Steve Riems covering for Dan, who's in another

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<v Speaker 2>big important trial of some sort. And on today's day,

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<v Speaker 2>it kind of feels a little weird standing in for

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<v Speaker 2>Dan playing second string quarterback because, as you guys all know,

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<v Speaker 2>Dan is a devout Catholic and on a day where

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<v Speaker 2>we lose the Pope, Pope Francis, it only seems fitting

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<v Speaker 2>that Dan would have been here to do this show.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, you can't predict what the future holds,

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<v Speaker 2>and Dan has a busy schedule and unfortunately, the passing

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<v Speaker 2>of Pope Francis is on a lot of people's minds today,

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<v Speaker 2>especially those devout Catholics out there that are kind of

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<v Speaker 2>wondering where the church is going to go next. And

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<v Speaker 2>fortunately for me, I get a chance to interview Archbishop

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<v Speaker 2>Samuel Aquela today, which will be an interesting topic for

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<v Speaker 2>me because I don't know the Catholic religion all that well,

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<v Speaker 2>but yeah, you know, I'd love to hear his comments

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<v Speaker 2>on this, and he'll be up in the in the

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<v Speaker 2>second half of this first hour four thirty six Mark

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<v Speaker 2>or so. So if you're tuned in, staying around for that,

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<v Speaker 2>because that's a pretty rare interview and a chance to

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<v Speaker 2>get to do that one is one that again I

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<v Speaker 2>wish Dan we're here to do it because it would

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<v Speaker 2>means something very special to him to have those comments.

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<v Speaker 2>But we're gonna do the best we can to keep

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<v Speaker 2>it on the rails today and cover while Dan's gone.

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<v Speaker 2>I have a large show planned today. We've got some

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<v Speaker 2>pretty good guests coming on. We're gonna have Mark Lamb,

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<v Speaker 2>who many of you all know from TV fame. He's

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<v Speaker 2>the former sheriff of Penell County, Arizona. Mark is a

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<v Speaker 2>teasing oftentimes when we're together and telling me never met

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<v Speaker 2>a camera he couldn't ignore. But Mark is quite a

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<v Speaker 2>media sensation, and now in his retirement, he's working for

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<v Speaker 2>a group called the Federation for American Immigration Reform. So

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<v Speaker 2>we're gonna have him on to talk a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>about what immigration reform or immigration policy looks like in

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<v Speaker 2>the United States at this point. And again, Mark's an excellent,

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<v Speaker 2>excellent guy on the with media. Like I said, he

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<v Speaker 2>never met a camera probably or a microphone that he

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<v Speaker 2>could walk past. And I'll tell him that when he's

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<v Speaker 2>on the show too. And then the last half of

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<v Speaker 2>the show, we're gonna have State Rep from House District

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<v Speaker 2>forty eight, Carlos Baron on to again keeps updated on

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<v Speaker 2>what's going on down at the Capitol. You know, there's

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<v Speaker 2>there's so many moving pieces of what's going on in

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<v Speaker 2>Colorado and nationally right now that intertwine. It's kind of

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<v Speaker 2>hard to keep it all straight. But you know, those

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<v Speaker 2>things play together in a big way, especially with Trump

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<v Speaker 2>going in one direction for our country and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>our governor, potential future governor in Michael Bennett going another.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, and over the weekend Trump Trump's team took

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit of a sting with the Supreme Court

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<v Speaker 2>temporarily blocking the Alien Enemies Act or the deportations under

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<v Speaker 2>the Alien Enemies Act. And what temporary means, it's kind

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<v Speaker 2>of hard to know, but I'm sure the Trump team's

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<v Speaker 2>going to fire back and as soon as they get

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<v Speaker 2>a chance in front of the Supreme Court. They're going

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<v Speaker 2>to be ready to do battle and try to convince

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<v Speaker 2>the Supreme Court that they are absolutely okay with their

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<v Speaker 2>deportation of the trendy Aragua Gang and the MS thirteen Gang,

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<v Speaker 2>Again a topic we're going to cover quite a bit today,

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<v Speaker 2>but for the time being, it looks like things are

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<v Speaker 2>screeching to a halt. That doesn't mean they're not still

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<v Speaker 2>being rounded up and held in detention centers as rightfully

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<v Speaker 2>they should be, but where they're going to go from

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<v Speaker 2>there is still a little bit in question. But as

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<v Speaker 2>I mentioned, we have a new potential candidate, or a

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<v Speaker 2>new candidate he's announced, I don't need to say potential.

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<v Speaker 2>He's probably the front runner candidate on the Democrat side

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<v Speaker 2>of the wheel that plans on running for governor in

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<v Speaker 2>the state of Colorado. And this guy, Michael Bennett, would

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<v Speaker 2>like to like to lead you to believe that he's

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<v Speaker 2>a change agent, that he's going to be the person

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<v Speaker 2>who puts Colorado back on the right course and fixes

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<v Speaker 2>all that is wrong with where Colorado has gotten. Unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 2>he comes from the same party who's been steering this

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<v Speaker 2>bus right off a cliff, and so it's really hard

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<v Speaker 2>for me to understand how he's going to distance himself.

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<v Speaker 2>But fortunately for us, even though Michael Bennett hasn't done

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<v Speaker 2>much in the US Senate, I don't think he's done

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<v Speaker 2>much in elected life, he has made some very choice

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<v Speaker 2>radio cuts that I just kind of want to throw

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<v Speaker 2>out here as a way to lay foundation for the

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<v Speaker 2>show today, because again, Michael Bennett is going to be

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<v Speaker 2>this reformer that comes in if elected and gets Colorado

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<v Speaker 2>back on the tracks. In fact, we're so far off

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<v Speaker 2>the tracks I don't even know if you can see

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<v Speaker 2>him from where we're at now. But again, he's going

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<v Speaker 2>to come in. He's going to change things. And before

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<v Speaker 2>we get too far into the weeds with him, I

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<v Speaker 2>just want to give this little bit of a flashback.

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<v Speaker 2>So this is from twenty nineteen. It's cut twenty eight Ryan.

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<v Speaker 3>When the Center from Texas shut this government down in

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<v Speaker 3>twenty thirteen, my stay was flooded, it was underwater. People

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<v Speaker 3>were killed, people's houses were destroyed, their small businesses were

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<v Speaker 3>ruined forever. And because of the Senator from Texas, this

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<v Speaker 3>government was shut down for politics that he served to

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<v Speaker 3>a second place finish in the Iowa.

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<v Speaker 4>Caucuses, but were of no help.

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<v Speaker 3>To the first responders, to the teachers, to the students

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<v Speaker 3>whose schools were closed with the federal government that was

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<v Speaker 3>shut down because of the junior senator from Texas. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>it's his business, not my business, why he supports a

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<v Speaker 3>president who wants to erect a medieval barrier on the

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<v Speaker 3>border of Texas, who wants to use eminent domain to

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<v Speaker 3>build that wall, who wants to declare an unconstitutional emergency

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<v Speaker 3>to build that wall. That's the business of the senator

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<v Speaker 3>from Texas.

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<v Speaker 5>I can assure you.

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<v Speaker 3>Is that in Colorado, if a president said he was

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<v Speaker 3>going to use eminent domain to erect the barrier across

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<v Speaker 3>the state of Colorado, across the rocky Mountains of Colorado,

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<v Speaker 3>he was going to steal the property of our farmers

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<v Speaker 3>and ranchers to build his medieval wall, there wouldn't be

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<v Speaker 3>an elected leader from our state they would support that idea.

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<v Speaker 2>So let's take a few things from that. Of course,

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<v Speaker 2>Michael Bennett sounds like he's throwing a temper tantrum, and

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<v Speaker 2>apparently that's his big boy voice. That's kind of the

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<v Speaker 2>way he describes it in some other interviews with Kyle

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<v Speaker 2>Clark and others. But you know, I was around in

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<v Speaker 2>twenty thirteen when those floods happened. Is I'm sure most

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<v Speaker 2>of you out there in the listening land were I

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<v Speaker 2>was boots on the ground in Weld County. Was the

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<v Speaker 2>captain or bureau chief at that time, it was the

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<v Speaker 2>title of our patrol division. So when that flood swept

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<v Speaker 2>through Weld County, I was definitely in the midst of

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<v Speaker 2>trying to figure out how do we get through this emergency.

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't remember seeing Michael Bennett. I don't remember

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<v Speaker 2>seeing any of the state elected leaders. If you will

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<v Speaker 2>come down to Welld County. We work things out on

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<v Speaker 2>our own. We did work very closely with some state agencies,

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<v Speaker 2>with the colorad of State Patrol and others, but that

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<v Speaker 2>was a rescue mission. That was a mission to make

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<v Speaker 2>sure that people were getting the help they needed, and

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<v Speaker 2>we weren't too worried about where Michael Bennett was. I

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<v Speaker 2>just find it funny that he talks about how much

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<v Speaker 2>he was concerned in twenty thirteen and then fast forward

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<v Speaker 2>that he's all against a border wall. You know, he

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't want anything to do with the border wall. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>it's funny how time changes from twenty nineteen to now,

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<v Speaker 2>because we have several polls out that show as high

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<v Speaker 2>as seventy percent of the US population believe, Hey, we

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<v Speaker 2>need to stop this illegal immigration thing and get people

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<v Speaker 2>moving in their own direction or back home. Meanwhile, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we've got this guy saying, well, we don't need a

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<v Speaker 2>border wall. I'm curious what his stance will be when

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<v Speaker 2>he finally gets out on the campaign trail if he

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<v Speaker 2>gets a question about where I legal immigration is all about.

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<v Speaker 2>But before we go to break, I want to play

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<v Speaker 2>one more cut twenty nine if you would ryan.

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<v Speaker 3>Many of America's most expensive places to live, where opportunity

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<v Speaker 3>is most limited, are run by your party, including Colorado.

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<v Speaker 4>How does your party fix that?

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<v Speaker 6>That is a fact.

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<v Speaker 7>We have to be for building more housing. We have

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<v Speaker 7>to be for building housing that's less expensive. We have

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<v Speaker 7>to be for reducing regulations so that it doesn't take

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<v Speaker 7>years and years and years for people to build housing

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<v Speaker 7>all over the state. One of the things that I

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<v Speaker 7>loved about being superintendent of schools in Denver was that

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<v Speaker 7>I never met a teacher who.

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<v Speaker 4>Didn't live in Denver.

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<v Speaker 8>It was emphatically not Seattle, it was emphatically not San Francisco.

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<v Speaker 8>Now all over Colorado there are people that are having

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<v Speaker 8>to drive two hours to get to work. We're turning

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<v Speaker 8>into California, and with all respect to California, I don't

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<v Speaker 8>want Colorado to turn into California.

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<v Speaker 2>Just like the last the last cut, we've got Michael

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<v Speaker 2>Bennett kind of speaking out attorney. He doesn't really know,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, truly what's going on. He's talking about Colorado

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<v Speaker 2>becoming California. I don't know about becoming. It seems like

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<v Speaker 2>we're already there. And again his party is driving the bus.

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<v Speaker 2>What's going to be different if he's in the driver's seat.

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<v Speaker 2>That'll be the great setup for our next guest, Mark Lamb,

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<v Speaker 2>the former Panell County Sheriff, will be on with us.

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<v Speaker 2>After the break. We're gonna go ahead and cut away,

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<v Speaker 2>but you're listening to Dan Caplis hosted by Steve Riems,

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<v Speaker 2>Weld County Sheriff on six thirty K how.

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<v Speaker 5>And now back to the Dan Taplass Show podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back to the Dan Caplis Show. You got Sheriff

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<v Speaker 2>Steve Riams setting in today taking the driver's seat and

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<v Speaker 2>up on our hotline, we've got Sheriff Mark Lamb from

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<v Speaker 2>Panell County, Arizona. He's retired sheriff And just to give

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<v Speaker 2>everybody a little bit of understanding about who Mark Lamb is.

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<v Speaker 2>As I said in the earlier segment, he never met

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<v Speaker 2>a camera or a microphone that he could walk past.

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<v Speaker 2>So this should be a great interview today. And I

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<v Speaker 2>told the listeners I'd say that while you were on

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<v Speaker 2>the air too, because I say it to your face.

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<v Speaker 2>But Mark's a great friend and we're having him on

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<v Speaker 2>the show today because he works for a group called

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<v Speaker 2>the Federation for American Immigration Reform, But mostly we just

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<v Speaker 2>want to get his take on where the immigration status

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<v Speaker 2>is in the United States and how those things impact

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<v Speaker 2>the state of Colorado as well. So Mark, welcome to

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<v Speaker 2>the show, and how you doing.

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<v Speaker 9>Thanks for having me on, Steve. And I wish I

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<v Speaker 9>could deny.

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<v Speaker 2>What you you can't.

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<v Speaker 9>I've always believed that if you have a fastball, you

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<v Speaker 9>should throw it, and so if you have a voice,

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<v Speaker 9>you should probably say. So whatever you're supposed to say,

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<v Speaker 9>what does Abraham Lincoln say to sertain by silence when

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<v Speaker 9>they should protest? Makes cowards of men?

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<v Speaker 2>That's it. That's it.

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<v Speaker 9>If the camera's going to listen and they're going to

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<v Speaker 2>I can respect that. And out of the two of us,

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<v Speaker 2>I definitely have a face for radio. You have a

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<v Speaker 2>so Mark again, thanks for coming on the show. You

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<v Speaker 2>know what, There's been a lot going on over the weekend.

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<v Speaker 2>We saw the Supreme Court put a temporary block on

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, truly the administration is getting a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of wins right now. And under your work for the

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<v Speaker 2>Federation for American Immigration Reform, I know you spend a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of time at the Capitol. How are things going

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<v Speaker 2>in your mind? You know, is this administration getting the

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<v Speaker 2>the future. When we're talking about these designated terrorist organizations

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<v Speaker 9>Well, over all, great questions, Steve, and look, you can't

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<v Speaker 9>I think they are hitting home runs, and I think

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<v Speaker 9>they're doing the things that the American people want them

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<v Speaker 9>to do, and we knew that some of these things

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<v Speaker 9>were going to come with challenges. There are groups that

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<v Speaker 9>are held bent on keeping people that shouldn't be in

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<v Speaker 9>this country here. They worked really hard to bring those

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<v Speaker 9>to just let you send them home that easily. I've

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<v Speaker 9>been encouraged by some of the decisions from some of

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<v Speaker 9>encroached severely on the executive branch's ability to do what

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<v Speaker 9>they have to do. But overall, I think that this

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<v Speaker 9>administration is winning. I think that they are clearly they've

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<v Speaker 9>had a positive effect on the border. We're going to

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<v Speaker 9>getting people out of this country is going to be

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<v Speaker 9>last thing I'll say and turn it back over to you,

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<v Speaker 9>is where were all these judges when it came time

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<v Speaker 9>to vet people that were coming to this country unvetted?

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<v Speaker 9>And while people were striving to find relief, the judges

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<v Speaker 9>this country, they're more than willing to make decisions.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, to the to the point of trying to bring

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<v Speaker 2>people back into our country who have no citizenship here

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<v Speaker 2>to begin with. But you know, Mark, I know as

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<v Speaker 2>the front lines. If you would kind of tell the

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<v Speaker 2>and what your eight years in office were like as

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<v Speaker 2>on the front lines, but pretty darn close. Just kind

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<v Speaker 2>of inform the listeners of what your perspective on this

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<v Speaker 9>Sure, So, Panal County is the third largest county in

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<v Speaker 9>the state of Arizona. There's only fifteen. The county is

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<v Speaker 9>between Phoenix and Tucson. We were not on the border,

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<v Speaker 9>but we were fifty two miles off the border where

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<v Speaker 9>the Indian Reservation is. That is our closest point. Seventy

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<v Speaker 9>interstate intertected with our county law and what we've dealt

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<v Speaker 9>with the first forty years were very different than the

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<v Speaker 9>second four years. Yeah, I can imagine four years under

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<v Speaker 9>President Trump. You know, my anti smuggling unit would come

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<v Speaker 9>our unit, right, but we're working hard, we're trying to

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<v Speaker 9>find them. They're just not there. Because the Trump's administration's

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<v Speaker 9>policies were working, they were building the wall. There was

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<v Speaker 9>a lot of positive things that literally changed overnight. I'm

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<v Speaker 9>not being dramatic, I'm not over exaggerating. Overnight. We saw

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<v Speaker 9>a tremendous change. Immediately, we saw tens of thousands of

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<v Speaker 9>people showing up. It was uncontrolled on the freeways where

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<v Speaker 9>we were having people come up. Because anybody comes in

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<v Speaker 9>on the south end of Arizona, whether it's the drugs

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<v Speaker 9>of the humans, at some point they are eighty five

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<v Speaker 9>ninety percent of the time they're going to come through

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<v Speaker 9>Penaw County to get to Phoenix. And so what we

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<v Speaker 9>were dealing with was, especially if you have counties to

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<v Speaker 9>to stop any of this human trafficking or drug craftking,

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<v Speaker 9>they were becoming unfettered on the freeways. You know, my

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<v Speaker 9>a barrel on the freeway. Vehicle of that were human

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<v Speaker 9>load vehicles. And the second thing was we saw a

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<v Speaker 9>the drugs and the people through the desert. They no

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<v Speaker 9>longer had that of the last four years, still did it.

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<v Speaker 9>That's where they brought out of the people they tried

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<v Speaker 9>to keep from us knowing about the people that we

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<v Speaker 9>should really be concerned about, and they were pushing them

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<v Speaker 9>right through there. But now we're shifted back and now

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<v Speaker 9>we're seeing them coming through the desert areas, the cartels

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<v Speaker 9>having to push them back through those more remote areas

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<v Speaker 9>through the Indian reservation.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So to make things clear, it's not that they

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<v Speaker 2>have completely given up on trying to bring people across

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<v Speaker 2>And I think I think that's the goal. You know, Mark,

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<v Speaker 2>with the Federation for American Immigration Reform, where do you

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<v Speaker 2>see that effort going? And there's a lot of talk about, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>should we just support everybody, should we find a pathway

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<v Speaker 2>to citizenship. Where does fair stand on that issue?

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<v Speaker 9>You know, for believe that there should be some common

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<v Speaker 9>needs to be you know, there needs Congress and Senate.

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<v Speaker 9>There's two pieces to this for people that don't understand this.

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<v Speaker 9>There is the border security piece, which is probably going

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<v Speaker 9>to be more of the executive branch function where you

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<v Speaker 9>protect people from coming to this country that shouldn't be

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<v Speaker 9>here illegally. Sure, then you have the immigration piece that's

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<v Speaker 9>going to be the piece that's dealt with throughslat the

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<v Speaker 9>legislative side that's going to be Congress and Senate got

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<v Speaker 9>to come up with some common sense reform. The amount

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<v Speaker 9>of people that we allow to come into this country

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<v Speaker 9>legally is a low number, and I think sometimes we

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<v Speaker 9>into our country legally so we know who's here and

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<v Speaker 9>give them every opportunity to have part of the American dream.

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<v Speaker 9>But the way it's been done, that affair is not

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<v Speaker 9>for them because what you've had let people into this

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<v Speaker 9>country illegally, which means that they are likely going to

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<v Speaker 9>take advantage of programmed illegally. If they work in this

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<v Speaker 9>they are not paying taxes, that's against the law. They

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<v Speaker 9>are oftentimes taking advantage of those programs Medicare, social Security.

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<v Speaker 9>If they are working legally, that means they probably have

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<v Speaker 9>you talk about driving without a license, no insurance, and

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<v Speaker 9>then the list goes on and on. So even those

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<v Speaker 9>people that are good people that wanted a better life,

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<v Speaker 9>because they didn't do it the legal way, that's a problem.

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<v Speaker 9>The other thing Fair believes in is is law enforcement

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<v Speaker 9>working in conjunction with the federal government. How the simplest

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<v Speaker 9>which gives local law enforcement shaff the ability to work

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<v Speaker 2>In Colorado and Mark, we got a hard break, so

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna have to cut away from here, but thanks

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<v Speaker 2>for being on the show with us. Two eighty seven

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<v Speaker 2>G is a great program. Needs to come back to Colorado.

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<v Speaker 2>But Mark lanb thanks again for being on the show.

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<v Speaker 2>You're listening to Dan Kaplis on six thirty K.

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<v Speaker 5>How you're listening to the Dankpliss Show podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back to the Dan Capless Show. You're sitting in

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<v Speaker 2>with Steve Reems. His guest host today Weld County Sheriff,

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<v Speaker 2>and we're gonna just jump right into this next guest.

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<v Speaker 2>Very honored to be able to speak with the Denver Archbishop,

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<v Speaker 2>Archbishop Samuel Aquilla. You know, unfortunately the circumstances aren't so

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<v Speaker 2>great because the passing of Pope Francis. But Archbishop, thanks

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<v Speaker 2>for being on the show with us, and I would

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<v Speaker 2>just like to hear from you about how this passing

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<v Speaker 2>of Pope Francis kind of impacts you personally and how

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<v Speaker 2>you see it from the physician you're in with the

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<v Speaker 6>Sure well, certainly I was surprised, like everyone else to

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<v Speaker 6>early Friday morning in Rome, and in that it was

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<v Speaker 6>President Vance and it seemed like, you know, he was

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<v Speaker 6>still on the mend from his illness and all, and

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<v Speaker 6>so the news came as quite a surprise. And with that,

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<v Speaker 6>certainly he will be remembered as a pope who emphasized

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<v Speaker 6>the importance of mercy, of forgiveness, as one who reached

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<v Speaker 6>h that too was uh unique about his papacy. And

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<v Speaker 6>then just the impact that he had in constantly inviting

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<v Speaker 6>us to be aware of those who live on the

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<v Speaker 6>to everyone that we meet. And uh that the message

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<v Speaker 6>of the Gospel was very much one that impacted his life,

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<v Speaker 6>that he gave us life for and we two or

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<v Speaker 6>call to imitate that and to live that out in

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, very poignant words. You know, the world is mourning

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<v Speaker 2>this passage right now, as well as obviously the United

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<v Speaker 2>States the state of Colorado. But I'm sure in your

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<v Speaker 2>position as the archbishop for Denver, your your messaging to

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<v Speaker 2>of how do we how do we move through this?

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<v Speaker 2>How do we mourn in the correct way? And how

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<v Speaker 2>How do you balance those things with your with your followers,

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<v Speaker 2>And I know you're probably struggling with that now, this

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<v Speaker 6>One of the most important things that he spoke to

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<v Speaker 6>Easter sees in the day after we have celebrated the

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<v Speaker 6>put our faith in Jesus Christ as truly the Son

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<v Speaker 6>that alone gives us great hope. That yes, there is

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<v Speaker 6>sadness and sorrow in his passing, but we also know

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<v Speaker 6>that the Lord assures us that the those who mourn

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<v Speaker 6>shall be comforted, and that where we find our comfort

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<v Speaker 6>is in the promises of Jesus Christ and all that

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<v Speaker 6>he fulfills, and that we continue to live that message.

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<v Speaker 6>And the greatest way that we could honor him is

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<v Speaker 6>by deepening our own encounter with Christ and by reaching

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<v Speaker 6>out to those who are poor, who are hurting, who

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<v Speaker 6>are broken, who are wounded, and giving them hope and

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<v Speaker 6>the hope of the Gospel.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, thank you. And on the line with us is

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<v Speaker 2>the Archbishop for Daniel Denver, Samuel Akoela, and he's just

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<v Speaker 2>sharing with us sum of the thoughts and processes that

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<v Speaker 2>he's working through as the art ch Bishop for Denver

435
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<v Speaker 2>and moving forward with the Catholic Church in the passing

436
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<v Speaker 2>of Pope Francis. In just a few minutes that we

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<v Speaker 2>have left, Archbishop, as you're you know, we kind of

438
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<v Speaker 2>talked about how do you move forward you personally, I

439
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<v Speaker 2>mean you have to have a chance to deal with

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<v Speaker 2>this on your own personal level. Did you ever have

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<v Speaker 2>any direct interaction with Pope Francis, And even if not,

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<v Speaker 2>kind of what does this mean to you on a

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<v Speaker 2>personal level?

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<v Speaker 6>Sure, I had met with Pope Francis at The longest

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<v Speaker 6>meeting I was in with him was during our Limina visit.

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<v Speaker 6>It was right before COVID, and it was about an

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<v Speaker 6>hour and a half long meeting.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 6>And it was a group of the bishops from the region,

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<v Speaker 6>and we had a very engaging conversation about the sacramental

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<v Speaker 6>life of the Church, about the importance of evangelization, the

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<v Speaker 6>importance of reaching out to others, inviting them and to

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<v Speaker 6>encounter Jesus and to accompany them in whatever walk of

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<v Speaker 6>life or stay of life they might find themselves. The

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<v Speaker 6>gospel message isn't just for those who put their faith

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<v Speaker 6>in Christ, but the gospel message is for all peoples.

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<v Speaker 6>And so the Holy Father. And then I met him

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<v Speaker 6>a few times after that, in brief meetings of greeting

459
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<v Speaker 6>him and saying hello to him, and in those encounters

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<v Speaker 6>he would give me encouragement and support in the ministry

461
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<v Speaker 6>that had that The Lord had entrusted me too, and

462
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<v Speaker 6>so you know, certainly he strengthened me in my ministry

463
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<v Speaker 6>by his message. And I was one who encouraged bishops

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<v Speaker 6>to really serve others as Christ served.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I couldn't thank you more for coming on the

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<v Speaker 2>show with us and sharing your thoughts. I know your

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<v Speaker 2>time is extremely valuable, especially on a day like this,

468
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<v Speaker 2>and we all mourn with you at the loss of

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<v Speaker 2>Pope Francis. And again, thank you for coming on. I

470
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<v Speaker 2>really wish Dan had been here to do this interview

471
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<v Speaker 2>because you mean a lot to him.

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<v Speaker 6>But well, thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you again for coming on the show.

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<v Speaker 6>And hey, you're welcome.

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<v Speaker 2>We appreciate it a lot. Thank you, sir. That was

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<v Speaker 2>Archbishop Samuel Aquilla. And with that we'll break and when

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<v Speaker 2>we come back, we'll kind of wrap up this first hour.

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<v Speaker 2>And you're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show here on

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<v Speaker 2>six thirty KHW with Weld Kenny, Sheriff Steve Raams as

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<v Speaker 2>guest host.

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<v Speaker 5>And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>You're back with the Dan Kaplas Show. He had Sheriff

483
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<v Speaker 2>Steve Raams setting in in the driver's seat today filling

484
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<v Speaker 2>in for Dan while he's out working some important casework.

485
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<v Speaker 2>And we'll just wrap up that first hour. I got

486
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<v Speaker 2>to tell you, as a sheriff, I've interviewed people from

487
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<v Speaker 2>all walks of life, but typically about criminal issues or

488
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<v Speaker 2>you know, witnesses to criminal issues. In my entire life,

489
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<v Speaker 2>I never thought I'd be interviewing the arch the Denver

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<v Speaker 2>Archbishop of the Catholic Church, about the death of Pope Francis.

491
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<v Speaker 2>But in all fairness, he probably never thought he'd be

492
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<v Speaker 2>interviewed by a sheriff about that same comment. So we

493
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<v Speaker 2>managed to get through it, and I thought his comments

494
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<v Speaker 2>were amazing, you know. It's it's obviously has a life

495
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<v Speaker 2>of devotion that is unparalleled, and his personal interactions with

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<v Speaker 2>Pope Francis I thought were pretty interesting myself.

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<v Speaker 10>Who do you think was more nervous, the archbishop being

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<v Speaker 10>interviewed by sriff or the shriff interviewing the arch bit shop.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. We'll have to arm rustle that out later.

500
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<v Speaker 2>I'm guessing it was probably me. I don't think much

501
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<v Speaker 2>rattles that guy.

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<v Speaker 4>I think you did a great job man.

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<v Speaker 10>You know, I told you I was really fascinated by

504
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<v Speaker 10>the personal story he told by the question that you

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<v Speaker 10>asked about his interactions with Pope Francis, and that was

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<v Speaker 10>very revealing and very insightful and really gave it a

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<v Speaker 10>local flavor for those that are members of the Catholic

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<v Speaker 10>Church here in Denver.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, thanks, Ryan, And you know, the process that they

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<v Speaker 2>go through for selecting the next Pope is not exactly

511
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<v Speaker 2>quick by any sense of the word. I think they

512
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<v Speaker 2>spend nine days. Morning Pope Francis is lost, there'll be

513
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<v Speaker 2>a funeral sometime in the four to six day period,

514
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<v Speaker 2>and then they'll do the conclave process where all the

515
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<v Speaker 2>cardinals from around the world come in to the Vatican

516
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<v Speaker 2>and they basically lock down behind doors and take multiple

517
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<v Speaker 2>rounds of votes. I guess up to four votes a

518
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<v Speaker 2>day until they pick on the next Pope. And you know,

519
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<v Speaker 2>there's a lot of talk out there about the Catholic

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<v Speaker 2>Church having a little bit of a political process to it,

521
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<v Speaker 2>and I guess that's kind of where it comes from.

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<v Speaker 2>But not being a Catholic myself, you know, I've had

523
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<v Speaker 2>to study up on this quite a bit today. But nonetheless,

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<v Speaker 2>I think Pope Francis, any pope for that matter, means

525
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<v Speaker 2>a lot to the direction of the world and specifically

526
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<v Speaker 2>to us here in America that you know, are primarily

527
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<v Speaker 2>Christian nation. So seeing who will be the next pope

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<v Speaker 2>will be interesting, but not without due time of laying

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<v Speaker 2>the laying Pope Francis to rest and giving him his

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<v Speaker 2>due deference. So yeah, an interesting interview. I never thought

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<v Speaker 2>i'd be interviewing the Archbishop of Denver, but you know,

532
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<v Speaker 2>that's the fun of live radio and setting in in

533
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<v Speaker 2>the backup quarterback seat. So again, I wish Dan could

534
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<v Speaker 2>have been here for that interview. I think I think

535
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<v Speaker 2>that would have been a lot to him. It meant

536
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<v Speaker 2>a lot to me, so I can't imagine what it

537
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<v Speaker 2>would have meant to Dan. On our text line at

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<v Speaker 2>five seven, seven, three nine, text Dan first before you

539
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<v Speaker 2>send something in. We've got quite a few texts coming in. Also,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll be taking some calls in the next hour three

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<v Speaker 2>oh three seven one, three eight, two five five. I'd

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<v Speaker 2>love to have some exchanges with you, especially where you

543
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<v Speaker 2>stand on illegal immigration, how you're thinking, how you think

544
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<v Speaker 2>it impacts the state of Colorado, or how it impacts

545
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<v Speaker 2>our nation. Are you in support of deporting everyone who's

546
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<v Speaker 2>here illegally? Is there some is there some mix in between?

547
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<v Speaker 2>I think the latest polls say fifty six percent of

548
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<v Speaker 2>the American public are all for pushing everyone who's here

549
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<v Speaker 2>illegally out of the country. And we know there's ten

550
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<v Speaker 2>or eleven million that came in in the last four years,

551
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<v Speaker 2>So that's a that's a heavy burden to lift. I

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<v Speaker 2>guess seventy percent or somewhere in the well, we'd like

553
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<v Speaker 2>the deportation idea, but there's probably also a mix of

554
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<v Speaker 2>creating a pathway to citizenship. I'm probably more in that area.

555
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<v Speaker 2>I think there are some good people that are here

556
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<v Speaker 2>that probably deserve to stay here, probably benefit our country

557
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<v Speaker 2>to stay here, but maybe made a mistake in the

558
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<v Speaker 2>way they got here in the first place. But again,

559
00:31:01.839 --> 00:31:04.720
<v Speaker 2>that's a hard starting point, even for me. So some

560
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<v Speaker 2>of the texts today it says this is from Alexi,

561
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<v Speaker 2>I believe it says at Do Better Denver posted that

562
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<v Speaker 2>some das are downcharging drug traffickers to misdemeanor crimes that

563
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<v Speaker 2>are immigration friendly so they will not be deported. They ask,

564
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<v Speaker 2>what are my thoughts. Must be frustrating to get criminals

565
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<v Speaker 2>arrested only to have das not prosecute appropriately. Yeah, that's

566
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<v Speaker 2>a huge point of frustration for I think anybody in

567
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<v Speaker 2>law enforcement. But another factor that's just as frustrating is

568
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<v Speaker 2>the bond reform we saw in the state of Colorado.

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<v Speaker 2>And I use the term reform very loosely, because criminals

570
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<v Speaker 2>right now basically have a revolving door unless they've done

571
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<v Speaker 2>the most heinous of crimes, and even then they're going

572
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<v Speaker 2>to get a bond in this state. So murder gets

573
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<v Speaker 2>a bond. So take that as the starting point and

574
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<v Speaker 2>then say, okay, well, when all these criminals are being arrested,

575
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<v Speaker 2>we can't hold them in jail. We can't really keep

576
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<v Speaker 2>them there until their trial date. What is the likelihood

577
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<v Speaker 2>that we're going to be able to knock crime down

578
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<v Speaker 2>in the state of Colorado. It's very low. And then

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<v Speaker 2>you take things like drug trafficking or drug charges in

580
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<v Speaker 2>general and put those up against trials for murderers or rapists,

581
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<v Speaker 2>you know which which one's going to take priority. Oftentimes

582
00:32:10.839 --> 00:32:14.359
<v Speaker 2>the drug offender falls to the lower level. And so yeah,

583
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<v Speaker 2>huge point of frustration. Alex also asked if I would

584
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<v Speaker 2>do a taxpayer release shot for Michael Brown. I tried

585
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<v Speaker 2>to set that up probably two years ago, and for

586
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<v Speaker 2>whatever reason, Michael didn't keep in contact with me. So

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<v Speaker 2>I'll leave that on his plate to figure out if

588
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<v Speaker 2>he wants to do that at some point.

589
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<v Speaker 4>Well, what about an intermediary in the form of Dragon.

590
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<v Speaker 2>Well, sure, I'm good with whatever you know. Michael hasn't

591
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<v Speaker 2>always had the nicest words to say about me. But

592
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<v Speaker 2>besides all that, I don't I don't think he has

593
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<v Speaker 2>a lot of nice words to say about anybody.

594
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<v Speaker 4>Then when did he get curmudgeonally with you or about you?

595
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<v Speaker 2>I think he was a little upset that I wouldn't

596
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<v Speaker 2>be more vocal about. You know, you want to come

597
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<v Speaker 2>take our guns? Well, you're are you going to come

598
00:32:56.680 --> 00:32:59.200
<v Speaker 2>break into houses into in Weld County. You're going to

599
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<v Speaker 2>get shot if you do, so, you know that. I

600
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<v Speaker 2>don't know. I think a lot of that's playing it

601
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<v Speaker 2>for a camera. People know where I stand on the

602
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<v Speaker 2>on the Second Amendment. I think they know where I

603
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<v Speaker 2>stand on law and order and doing those those what

604
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<v Speaker 2>I'll call money shots for for for voters. That's not

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<v Speaker 2>really of my cupet. That's not really my cup of tea.

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<v Speaker 10>What you describe is what we've seen and heard a

607
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<v Speaker 10>lot from Sheriff Graedy Judd.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, down in Florida County, Florida.

609
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's his stick. He can keep it, you know.

610
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<v Speaker 2>I'm I've made it as easy as I can for

611
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<v Speaker 2>people in my in my county to get concealed weapons permits.

612
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<v Speaker 2>I wish we were a constitutional carry state. So that's

613
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<v Speaker 2>the way I look at it. The more people that

614
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<v Speaker 2>have guns, the pliighter that our society is going to be.

615
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<v Speaker 2>And and that's kind of my stance on it. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know that I need to do a commercial on

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<v Speaker 2>my Facebook page to make that known. But I'm more

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<v Speaker 2>than happy to engage with Michael Brown. But he's got

619
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<v Speaker 2>to return the favor. So on the other side of this,

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<v Speaker 2>it says, sheriff, take a picture of Bennett and a

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<v Speaker 2>picture of Ted Cruz, which is who Bennett was referring

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<v Speaker 2>to on the audio Cliff we paid at the played

623
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<v Speaker 2>at the top of the top of the show says,

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<v Speaker 2>take the take a photo of each of those to

625
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<v Speaker 2>DIA and ask one hundred colorad Ons who these men are.

626
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<v Speaker 2>My guest is seventy percent would recognize Crews and five

627
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<v Speaker 2>percent would recognize Bennett. That's that's probably about right. That's

628
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<v Speaker 2>from Patty. Patty. I would love to go out to

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<v Speaker 2>the airport and live film that just so we could

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<v Speaker 2>replay it. That would be a great spot on Facebook. Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>who's this guy? Who's this guy? You know? Bennett would

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<v Speaker 2>have to be on a on a milk carton for

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<v Speaker 2>anybody to recognize him, and then the last one here

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<v Speaker 2>or one of the last ones here, Steve, I'd love

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<v Speaker 2>to know where Bennett was when the Colorado floods happened.

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<v Speaker 2>My bet was he stayed in DC. Well, I know

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<v Speaker 2>where he wasn't If he was in my county, he

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't making himself well known. So having said all that,

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<v Speaker 2>I was all over the place during the floods in

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<v Speaker 2>twenty thirteen, and I never ran into the guy. So

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to say he wasn't there, but I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't see him. So we'll be back in the next hour.

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<v Speaker 2>I've got a guest scheduled to talk a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>about what's going on the state cap but we'll keep

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<v Speaker 2>it on the Immigration Talk. You're listening to Dan Kaplos

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<v Speaker 2>with Sheriff Steve Raims his guest host