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Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles. Today,

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we're going to talk a little bit more about Leon

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Black's trip to court and add some context to what

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went on at that hearing. Now, yesterday we had a

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bit of an overview about him going to this hearing,

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about this hearing taking place, but we didn't really know

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the details yet as far as some of the arguments

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that went on and some of the animosity being traded

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back and forth. Now, this is a battle of the titans, folks,

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Leon Black and Harris. I mean, we're talking two of

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the biggest of the bigs in the financial sector and

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watching them lock horns like this pretty epic, honestly. Now,

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there aren't many people that can stand up to Leon

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Black and take him on head on, but Harris is

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certainly one of the very few people that is situated

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to do that. Now, according to Harris, he has nothing

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to do with Miss Ganieva and her lawsuits. His beef

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with Leon Black stems from other things, the fact that

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he was passed up for Mark Rowan, and mainly the

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fact that Jeffrey Epstein and Leon Black were so close.

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So that's where the animosity is coming from. That's where

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it stems from, and you see it pouring over into

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every situation that you find Leon Black in at this point. Now,

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as far as Leon Black's concerned, like we talked about

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the other day, just another one of these oligarchs, right. Look,

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let's if the roles were reversed right now, if we

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were living in a different world and say it was

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America attacking say Mexico, leon Black would be one of

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the oligarchs that the world was sanctioning. Can I make

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that any clearer to people out there? I know it's

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the en vogue thing right now to you know, hate

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on the Russian people, But to be very clear, all

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of us in the West have our own oligarchs. And

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when I bash these people, these one percent of the

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one percent, I'm talking about all of them, not just

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the Russians, not just the Americans, not just the English.

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The whole entire so called elite ruling establishment is who

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I have a problem with. And I'm not talking about

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a group of people in a room, the illuminati they

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say that for somebody else. Man, I'm talking about the

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people in the financial sector who really have their finger

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on the pulse, who really control what goes on and

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what doesn't go on. Let me ask you a question,

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what any of these government sanctions work if the banks

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weren't on board. You know the answer to that, and

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the answer is no. So we have our own oligarchs here, folks.

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And while I think it's a great thing to sanction

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the Russian oligarchs, I've been saying that for years. We

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have to pay mine to our own problems. And this

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scumbag Leon black is certainly that caused a lot of

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grief for a lot of American companies. They're vultures over

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at Apollo Global. Now, don't get me wrong. They do

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some good work right, some good investments, blah blah blah,

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But their bread and butter is to go in take

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over companies, make some money, and then jettison those companies.

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What they did with Caesar's Palace here in Vegas is

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an absolute travesty. And now they got their hands on

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the Sands, one of the jewels ridiculous man used to

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be one of my favorite properties. When I worked for

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counter Fitzgerald. We owned the sportsbooks, the rights to the

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sports book inside of the Venetian, which is a Sands property.

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And if you've ever been to the Venetian and seen

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their sports book. You know how epic it is. So

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it sucks that Apollo Global is in charge of Sands

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now because that means I'll never go back to that

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casino again. Just like I was talking about yesterday with Barclays,

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I'm not big on like the whole boycott thing. I'm

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not going to sit here and tell anybody else what

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to do but me personally. You know, I'm going to

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do whatever I want to do with my money. I

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earn my money. It's hard to earn, and I'm gonna

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spend at how I damn well. Please. And if you

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think I'm giving Leon Black, Mark Rowan or any of

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these scumbags over at Apollo Global one red cent, you

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got another thing coming all right onto the article. If

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you had to pick two major law firms particularly known

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for fierce aggressive tactics, you could do a lot worse

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than naming Quinn, Emmanuel Erkhart and Sullivan and whigdor So

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again Battle of the Titans. What you could expect when

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you're dealing with people with this kind of money, folks, Again,

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that's what it comes down to me or you, we'd

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be going through the phone book right better call Saul,

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not these guys. And that's why it's laughable when Leon

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Black talks about, oh, I gave Jeffrey Epstein one hundred

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and fifty eight million dollars for advice. Yeah right, bro,

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you have all the money in the world. You don't

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need to give Jeffrey Epstein money for advice. Call on

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one of your lawyers over here and have them set

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you up with somebody. Legit. I'm not sure which one

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is the immovable object and which is the unstoppable force.

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But when the two collide, as they have in litigation

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over rape allegations against billionaire Leon Black, well, let's just

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say it's not pretty. That is definitely the case. Whenever

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you get these big ass law firms going head to

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head locking horns, it's always a bloodbath. We saw it

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with Prince Andrew, David Boyce, Sigared McAuley, even Bradley Edwards

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and the way that they, you know, clashed with Epstein's

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lawyers and then Maxwell's lawyers, Prince Andrew's lawyers. When you

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have these kinds of lawyers out up there and they're

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litigating cases, let's remember we got to think about and

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remember that these people all have you know their own ideas.

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As far as these lawyers go, they're looking to establish

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more prestige, looking to get more clients, and a lot

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of these big law firms are super combative. The hostilities

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escalated in a Quinn filing on Wednesday that accuses Wigdor

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of making inaccurate representations about when it began representing Black's accuser,

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former model Guselle Ganieva, and of helping Ganieva promoter claims

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about Black to journalists. Wigdor partner Geen Christiansen told told

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me Quinn's latest assertions are so freaking ridiculous and total

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and utter nonsense. You know what, folks, We live in

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the age of disinformation, right, So me, I don't trust

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anything I hear anymore. I have to dig in myself

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and verify shit, and if I can't verify it, I

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put it onto the back burner. Right. It's just so

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hard to discern the real from the fake at this point.

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So when you're talking about a situation like this with

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Leon Black and missus Ganieva, you know that there's going

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to be all kinds of misinformation thrown from these lawyers.

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They're gonna try and throw people off the scent. They're

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gonna make it accusations such as this so that you

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don't pay attention to what Leon Black was up to.

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So my advice, unsolicited as it may be, is be

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very very cautious of what you're letting into your brain

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these days, very cautious. We have nothing to hide, said Christiansen,

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who was responding to an email query to her and Wigdor.

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I can't even imagine what a judge is going to

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think of this. Look. We have seen a lot of

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weird ass behavior from people around Epstein, Epstein's friends, people

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who are being charged in relation to Epstein, as far

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as their legal decisions go and the way their legal

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teams move. And this might be another one of those

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crazy ass moves like hell Mary almost because again, let's

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be clear, Leon Black knows he's cooked. Oh boy, don't

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have nothing really good friends with Epstein. He had a

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consensual relationship with this lady. He's already admitted it. Now

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he has to prove that he's being extorted. Good luck,

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bro Ranker and outrage have been hallmarks of this litigation

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since it began in June twenty twenty one, when Wigdor

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filed the lawsuit for Ganieva in New York State Supreme Court.

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Ghanieva alleged that Black had sexually abused her for years

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before coercing her into signing a non disclosure agreement. Look, folks,

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whenever I hear a man has a woman sign a

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non disclosure agreement about their sexual relationship, I am automatically

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automatically suspicious. Why do you need someone to sign a

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non disclosure agreement over your sexual relationship? Oh wait, you

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cheated on your wife? Bro? We all know stop it.

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Is there any of these guys out there, any of

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these rich, scummy sons of bitches that aren't cheating on

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their wives. My guess is most of them are. Okay,

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So what do you mean? What do you need the

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non disclosure for? Not like your wife's gonna leave you anyway,

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Leon Black? Really, what it was is because he wanted

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to control. He had to continue to have control even

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when the relationship ends. That's what this non prosecution bullshit,

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I mean, non disclosure agreement bullshit? Is Black, who is married,

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has said that he and Ganieva had a consensual affair

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and that he paid her millions of dollars to keep

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it a secret. Why are you look again, millions of

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dollars to keep it a secret. Bro, Why are you

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getting yourself into this situation in the first place. If

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you ever find yourself in a situation where you're paying

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millions of dollars for other people not to find out,

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you're probably not in the right situation. Thank you for

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coming to my ted talk. Are these people for real, folks? Honestly?

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How do they have so much money, so much power,

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so much prestige and they're so fucking dumb? But that's

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not all. Last October, Quinn filed a racketeering suit for Black,

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the former CEO of the private equity fund Apollo Global Management, Incorporated,

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in federal court in Manhattan. Black suit accused Ganieva and

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her lawyers from Wigdor of conspiring with unknown defendants to

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smear the billionaire's name. To smear the billionaire's name, Like

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he needs any help with that shit, Brah, You and

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Jeffrey Epstein were BFFs. Nobody needs help to smear your name.

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All we have to do is run an article about

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you and your pal Jeffrey Epstein. Think that's sufficient. Black

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later elaborated on his conspiracy theory in an amended federal

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court complaint filed in January. The new complaint claimed that

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Ganieva was in cahoots with Josh Harris, a business rival

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of Black, who was allegedly scheming to use Ganieva's account

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of sexual assault to incapacitate Black. Look, it's amazing that

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Black would even attempt this move. Honestly, you know, he's

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very brazen and very arrogant. But I think this is

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gonna fil miserably for him. I think he's barking up

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the wrong tree with Harris, folks, Honestly, I really do.

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And it's not very often that someone like Leon Black

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meets their match. But Harris knows all of Black's tricks.

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This is kind of like the paddle on fighting the

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Jed High right. The Sith rule of two. There can

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only be two sith, one dark lord and then the

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one apprentice. So is Harris looking to get rid of

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the Sith Lord Leon Black to ascend to his throne.

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Very possible, folks, Very very possible. Both Harris and Ganieva

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said last week in dismissal motions that Black's racketeering conspiracy

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claim was completely preposterous because for starters, Black had not

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offered a shred of evidence that the two of them

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ever even communicated with each other, let alone formed a conspiracy.

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So Leon Black's out here like he's part of the

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q anon group talking about all kinds of wild conspiracies.

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Next thing, you know, you folks know what's coming next. Right,

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next thing, you know, he's gonna bring the lady Viktoria

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Heavy around so she could tell you about her conspiracy

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theories too. Wigdor responded to Black's racketeering allegations with e

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motion for Rule eleven sanctions against Black, Quinn and co

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counsul from Estrich Golden, arguing that Black's accusation against Wigdoor

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was an outrageously scandalous attempt to scare the firm away

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from representing Ganieva. Big time move by rich people. They'll

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try and get your lawyer not to represent you, right,

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they don't give up. Do you really think these people

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care about you? I don't know how much I have

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to how clearer I need to be. None of these

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corporate giants care about you. If you work for a

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large corporation, they do not care about you. Don't feel

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bad if you have to call in sick. None of

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that nonsense, because these people do not care, and people

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like Leon Black will use their exquisite power, their extreme

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amount of prestige, and they will crush people who are

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smaller than them, and they won't care for one single

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second you think they're gonna miss any sleep over it chants.

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Black ended up dropping the conspiracy claim against Wigdor in

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his amended complaint, though he continued to allege that Wigdor

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defamed him and in peculiar in an end. In a

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peculiar turn of events, Quinn Emmanuel withdrew as Black's counsel

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in the federal case, citing an undisclosed conflict. It's always

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something right, It's always something behind the scenes. There's always

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some kind of connection. All of these law firms are intertwined,

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and that's why when they do these internal reports, we

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always talk about That's why I always find that shit laughable.

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Quinn Manuel, which remained in the federal case to defend

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Wigdor's sanction motion, said that Black's amended complaint mooted the

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call for sanctions. Wigdor fired back with a brief, doubling

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down on its allegations of misconduct. It claimed that Quinn

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Emmanuel tried to pressure Wigdoor to betray Ganieva by providing

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incriminating evidence linking her to Harris Black's nemesis at Apaul.

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So you see how this happens behind the scenes, right,

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and just take a look at what's going on here,

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and then times this by about fifty thousand, okay, And

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that's the kind of pressure that Epstein's lawyers put on

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the girls in Palm Beach the first time around. And

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guess what those girls they didn't have the lawyers to

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protect them that Harris has. They had some shit bag

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prosecutor named krisher who really didn't care about them, or

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Marie Villa Fana, who is all of a sudden some

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sort of hero. But this is the kind of shit

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you're dealing with with these high power lawyers. Folks. These

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got these people that look they're coming for blood, They're

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coming for your throat. And these are the same kind

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of folks like Marty Singer. It claimed that Quinn Manuel

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tried to pressure Wigdor exc excuse me past that. Quinn

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partner Michael Karlinsky called the assertion ridiculous. He told me

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he was simply responding to question from Wigdor's lawyer. Wigdor

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moved last week to dismiss Black's defamation claim, which it

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called wasteful and retaliatory see what I mean about hostilities.

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In the latest round, Quinn has homed in on discovery

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Wigdor recently produced in Ganieva's state court case. The evidence,

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as Quinn laid it out in a brief in the

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state case, is a series of WhatsApp exchanges between Ganijeva

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and New York Times reporter Matt Goldstein in October and

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November of twenty twenty. That was months before Ganieva publicly

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accused Black of sexual abuse in March twenty twenty one

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and signed a retainer agreement with Wigdor in April twenty

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twenty one. So what they're trying to assert is that

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this was all made up and that this lawyer, mister

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Goldstein here played a part in facilitating this whole entire ordeal.

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That is exactly what Quinn, the law firm Quinn, is

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zeroing in on at this point. And what's that message

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is Goldstein repeatedly told Ganieva he was talking to Wigdor.

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He did not expressly say that those conversations involved Ganieva,

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although he did ask Ganieva if she was okay with

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him talking to me on background. Ghanieva told Goldstein in

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a follow up message, I will let Wigdor know that

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if you want to speak with them, you can. The

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Times did not publish a story about Ganeieva's allegations before

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she tweeted about Black, and you know why, right The

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New York Times is filled with cowards. Oh, they act

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like they aren't, but let's be real. The Gray Lady

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is not what it once was. And I'll never forget

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the way they dog walked us into the war in Iraq.

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I will never forget the dishonesty, the lying, and how

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untruthful they were to the American people into the world.

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So it doesn't shock me that they didn't run this.

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Too scared to go after Leon Black, too scared to

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stand up to Black. The implication, Quinn said, is that

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Wigdor was already advising Ganieva about going public with their

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accusations against Black, perhaps in a splashy news article, before

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she tweeted about her alleged abuse. Quinn argued that the

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Goldstein evidence proved Wigdor was communicating with reporters on Ganniheva's behalf,

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bolstering Black's assertion that Wigdor and Ganieva were plotting to

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gauge the media's appetite for Miss Gannieva's false claims before

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they were made public in March of twenty twenty one.

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So basically, in Layman's terms, terms that we can understand

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here on the East side of Las Vegas is they

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were just fishing. They were trying to see the interest

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of the newspapers in a story such as this, And

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most times you would think that a newspaper would jump

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on a story like this, but you know how it goes.

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The New York Times is not a reputable source at

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this point, sorry, folks, just the way it is. In

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a parallel filing in the federal case, Quinn's co counsel,

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Susan Estrich argued that the Goldstein text undermined Wigdor's claim

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for sanctions. Wigdor has engaged in precisely the activity that

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is the subject of the complaint in this action, not

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just the pursuit of sham litigation activity, but promotion of

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Miss Ganieva's false narratives to the press, The filing said.

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Goldstein declined to comment on his conversations with Ganieva and Wigdor.

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That's probably a good idea, I mean, you know, usually

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you get these journalists who get scared and they start

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burning their sources and turning everything over. But at least

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Goldstein clammed up here. Wigdor partner Christensen said, the WhatsApp

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messages show nothing. Ganieva was consulting with many advisors, including

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Wigdor and another law firm, about her allegations. There was

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nothing unusual about Wigdor speaking to Goldstein, a prominent reporter.

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For all you know, Goldstein was asking Doug why we

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did not represent Gazelle. Christiansen's said Matt had been calling, texting,

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and emailing with her for months. She added, all this

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does is show she wrestled with the decision. She knew

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how tough it would be to go against Leon Black

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and his lawyers and his lawyers, but hers are just

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as tough. Look, there's no doubt she got the right lawyers.

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If she's gonna battle against Leon Black, she's in the

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right place. And make no mistake, folks, this is going

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to be a long, arduous struggle for her. This is

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not going to be easy. She's not gonna get a

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settlement dropped in her lap, nothing like that. So we're

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going to continue to follow this one because it's a

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big deal. It has a large shadow cast over Epstein's

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criminal enterprise, and as you all know, I believe Leon

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Black was a key member in facilitating these financial moves.

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So he's always been somebody that I have had my

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eye on, and seeing him in court here and watching

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him sweat a little bit is certainly an enjoyable experience

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for me. But with that said, I really hope that

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we get to see this all play out. I want

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to see it go to discovery and all of that,

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because missus Ganieva's claims are very, very serious and they

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deserve a real look, not some BS nonsense, but a

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real look, and also a look from the authorities as

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far as criminal charges. I know that Leon Black was

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allegedly under investigation or they were looking into these charges

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as far as a criminal matter, and I really hope

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that the clown show down at the SDNY pursues this shit.

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But like usual, we will have to see all right, folks,

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that's gonna do it for this update. As usual, some

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more episodes are on their way and I will be

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back later on with a little bit more. If you'd

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cap U Seci. The links that we discussed can be

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found in the description box. What's up everyone, and welcome

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back to the Epstein Chronicles. We have ourselves a relatively

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short article that we're about to dive into today that

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deals with Leon Black and Missus Gonieva facing off in

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court for the first time today. Now, this story is

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still evolving, right. We've had a lot of finger pointing here.

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We've had Leon Black asserting that it was Josh Harris

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who set this all up. We have racketeering charges, all

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sorts of crazy things going on in this battle between

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Missus Gonieva and Leon Black. But this is the first

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time that their legal teams are going to face each

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other down in court, and it's going to be interesting

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what comes of all of this. Now we know that

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Leon Black has already admitted to a consensual affair with

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Missus Gonieva. He asserts, however, that she is attempting to

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extort him and use that as a you know, anchor

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over his head, considering he was married to get more

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money out of him. If he didn't do that, she

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was going to tell the world about their relationship. Well,

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we all know that happened anyway, and we all know

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that Leon Black was engaged in what he says was

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a consensual relationship, and she agrees that for the most part,

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or at least a portion of it, it was consensual.

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And at the same time, mind you, leon Black had

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a sick wife, So it shows you the kind of

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sick bastard we're talking about here. Who is out here

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creeping around on their sick wife with some model lady.

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Is what is wrong with you? So anyway, all of

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this stuff comes to a head, it all comes out,

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the public gets an eyefull, and now we're seeing the

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fallout from all of this as Leon Black scrambles to

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try and defend his name and what he says is

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basically a palace coup. So let's jump into the article

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from Bloomberg and let's see what they have to say.

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The author is Bob Van Vores and Heather Perlberg headline

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apollos Leon Black faces off against former model in court

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for the first time. Lawyers for Leon Black and a

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former model he says is trying to destroy his reputation,

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will face off for the first time in a New

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York court Thursday, admit a dispute over messages the billionaire

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claims show a conspiracy against him. You notice, whenever something

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goes south for these people, these rich people, these rich

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people like Leon Black, all of a sudden, it's a

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huge conspiracy against me. Ah conspiracy. It's always the same story,

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isn't it. And I don't know about you, folks, but

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I'm not buying it anymore now. I wasn't there. I

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don't know what happened with him and miss Ganieva. I

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don't know, you know, if her allegations are true. But

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what I will say is this, I certainly take them

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very seriously. One, because anytime somebody has these sorts of

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allegations and they're willing to go all the way to

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court and put themselves out there, I think that they

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should be listened to. Number Two, somebody who's hanging out

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with Jeffrey Epstein and associating with Epstein, spending as much

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time with Epstein as Leon Black did. Yeah, I don't

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put it past them, especially considering missus Ganieva's claims that

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Leon Black brought her for Jeffrey Epstein at one point

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to do as he wished with her. So it it

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doesn't come off as like a charge against somebody where

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I'd be like, well, hold on, We've never even heard

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anything like that about this person. We're gonna need a

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lot more information, Whereas we have seen a lot about

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the character possessed by Leon Black, and I have to

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tell you, folks, it's lacking. Black, the co founder of

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Apollo Global Management, sued Guzelle Ganieva and here Lloyd wigdor

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Llp last year after she sued him for defamation, intentional

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infliction of emotional distress, gender motivated violence, and retaliation. Now

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remember the article that we read last night about the oligarchs, right,

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and how it mentioned Leon Black another reason why is

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a scumbag? Do you really think that this guy built

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this empire on the up and up, that he wasn't

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cutting corners making financial moves that are not correct or

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not legal? You really think he did everything was on

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the up and up. That's how we built Apollo Global. Yeah. Right,

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He's in the pocket of all of these oligarchs. All

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of these dudes are up to the same shit, whether

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they be an oligarch in Russia or an oligarch in America.

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They're all the same kind of person. They look at

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you as less then they look at people as missus

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Ganieva as just a plaything, and when I'm done with you,

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I'll discard you as I wish. One thing they're learning, though,

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is that they're old tricks. Their old movie poofs aren't

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going to hold weight anymore as far as the public's concerned.

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You're not just gonna get up there and say, oh,

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I'm being extorted. This lady was trying to rob me. No,

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that's not gonna work anymore, especially when you have the

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character of somebody like Leon Black. His lawyer, Susan Estrich,

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filed a letter with a federal court judge overseeing Black's

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case Wednesday, claiming her team had received WhatsApp messages between

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Ganieva and a New York Times reporter showing she was

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working with her lawyer, Douglas Wigdor, months before Ganieva officially

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retained him. Guess what, maybe she unofficially retained him. Maybe

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it was a handshake agreement. This is what happens. What

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we're seeing Leon Black's lawyers do are is the same

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exact thing that we saw Prince Andrew's lawyers do. They're

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gonna attempt to try and destroy her credibility. They're gonna

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attempt to try and make Miss Ganieva out to be

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a raving lunatic, when in reality, it's their client who

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is the sick bath. It's their client who is the lunatic.

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Geene Christiansen, a Whigdoor partner, rejected that argument. Absolutely nothing

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in text messages between Miskanieva and a reporter from The

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New York Times does anything to support Black's fake conspiracy

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underlying his baseless civil rico claims. It's so crazy to

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me that Leon Black is out here slapping other people

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with a civil racketeering charges when he should be caught

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up in a real rico case himself, according to his

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business dealings with Epstein. It's so annoying, it's so frustrating

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to see it over and over and over again. And

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you know that Leon Black's gonna find a way to

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wiggle his ass off of this too. It'll be some

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kind of payout and he'll tell his story walkin. That's

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how it always ends up for these people. When you're

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a man of always and you have your foot on

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the throat of the children of never for always. This

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is the end result. You don't pay any prices, there's

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no repercussions, and you're able to just call people crazy

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and lunatics and say they're after you for your money

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and you just get to go on with your life

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while the other person has their lives absolutely destroyed. That's

469
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:16,799
the way it's always been when it comes to people

470
00:28:16,839 --> 00:28:20,319
like this. I really hope that this time around it's different,

471
00:28:20,519 --> 00:28:24,640
because it's the irony is not lost on me that

472
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:26,599
this guy's out here talking about this one should be

473
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:28,279
hit with a Sicco case, or that one should be

474
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:30,640
hit with a Sicco case, when it's really his bitch

475
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:32,920
ass that should be hit with a Rico and the

476
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:37,799
Cicco case. The techs speak for themselves, and the fact

477
00:28:37,799 --> 00:28:40,839
that Black believes that they are evidence of anything shows

478
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:45,359
how unhinged. Black's belief is. That numerous individuals, including many

479
00:28:45,359 --> 00:28:48,920
who do not even know one another, were allegedly plotting

480
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:51,200
to ruin him. It's always nice to come up with

481
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:54,759
this huge, large conspiracy that's trying to ruin you. Isn't

482
00:28:54,799 --> 00:28:57,240
it very hard for people to lock that in? Very

483
00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:59,640
hard for people to track that down. You start adding

484
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:02,759
name this one and that one becomes a shit show.

485
00:29:02,839 --> 00:29:05,759
But the reality is this, there's no conspiracy in my

486
00:29:05,799 --> 00:29:08,640
opinion here to take down Leon Black. Leon Black was

487
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:12,519
an absolute scumbag. Leon Black shouldn't have been out catting

488
00:29:12,559 --> 00:29:15,880
around on his wife. And now when it's time to

489
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:18,400
pay up, pay up, pay up, it's a big problem.

490
00:29:18,559 --> 00:29:21,039
Oh I didn't do that. She's a liar. Oh oh

491
00:29:21,119 --> 00:29:24,039
she's extorting me. No, we don't believe you, Leon Black.

492
00:29:24,079 --> 00:29:26,519
I'm sorry, my friend. I don't think anybody believes you.

493
00:29:26,559 --> 00:29:30,400
In fact, Black and Ganieva are locked in an escalating

494
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:34,079
series of back and forth legal claims. Black has stepped

495
00:29:34,119 --> 00:29:37,640
down as chairman and chief executive officer at Apollo and

496
00:29:38,079 --> 00:29:41,599
receded from roles including chairman of New York's Museum of

497
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:44,440
Modern Art. And look, that has a lot to do

498
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,960
with his Epstein ties as well. Let's not forget this

499
00:29:48,039 --> 00:29:51,039
dude was living in shame. Well anybody who knew about

500
00:29:51,039 --> 00:29:53,640
his ties to Epstein anyway, for quite some time, what

501
00:29:53,759 --> 00:29:57,759
happened here was the Gniheva situation has really forced the

502
00:29:57,759 --> 00:30:04,240
spotlight on to Leon Black. Back Ganeieva's initial allegations of

503
00:30:04,279 --> 00:30:07,319
sexual assault, first revealed in tweets in mid March of

504
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:11,359
last year, followed reports of blacks larger than expected payments

505
00:30:11,359 --> 00:30:15,480
for tax advice and financial services to disgrace sex offender

506
00:30:15,599 --> 00:30:19,920
Jeffrey Epstein, totally one hundred and fifty eight million dollars Again,

507
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:22,599
why are you paying anyone one hundred and fifty eight

508
00:30:22,599 --> 00:30:25,839
million dollars for advice? Are you kidding me? Right now?

509
00:30:26,079 --> 00:30:28,960
Stop it? You're not paying anyone a buck fifty eight

510
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:32,599
for advice? One hundred and fifty eight million? Really? Yeah? Sure.

511
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:37,960
Black has accused Ganieva of extortion and denied the allegations

512
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:42,279
that he sexually assaulted her. He instead characterized their relationship

513
00:30:42,519 --> 00:30:45,759
as a consensual affair, which started in two thousand and

514
00:30:45,839 --> 00:30:49,599
eight and ended around twenty fourteen. Well, look, just because

515
00:30:49,599 --> 00:30:52,279
you're in a consensual affair with somebody doesn't mean you

516
00:30:52,319 --> 00:30:55,640
can't hurt them, or abuse them or rape them. I

517
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:57,559
don't care. If you're married to somebody for one hundred

518
00:30:57,559 --> 00:31:00,319
and fifty thousand years so they don't want to be

519
00:31:00,319 --> 00:31:04,000
physical or have contact with you, then that's it. But

520
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:07,160
guys like Leon Black, you ever try and tell somebody

521
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:10,920
like this no. I know I have in my capacity

522
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:13,480
as managing a sportsbook, I've had to break some bad

523
00:31:13,559 --> 00:31:16,920
news to rich people before, and they are not happy

524
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,759
about it. Right, So can you imagine in a private

525
00:31:19,839 --> 00:31:23,039
setting when a girl or a woman who they think

526
00:31:23,079 --> 00:31:26,359
that they have ownership over tells them no or denies

527
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:32,319
their commons. As part of his lawsuit, Black has also

528
00:31:32,359 --> 00:31:36,240
accused Apollo co founder Josh Harris of organizing a coup

529
00:31:36,319 --> 00:31:39,920
to overthrow them. Black said that Harris worked with Ganieva

530
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:43,519
to assassinate his character and extort even more from him.

531
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:46,440
Black wrote in a filing earlier this year, I mean,

532
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:49,519
it's crazy to me to think that he believes Josh Harris,

533
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:52,640
who has quite the workload, has the time to sit

534
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:55,400
around in a bunker and come up with this strategy

535
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:59,039
to try and you know, kneecap Leon Black breaking news,

536
00:31:59,079 --> 00:32:01,200
my friend. You don't need anyone to do that. You

537
00:32:01,319 --> 00:32:03,359
fell and broke your ankle on your own. You know

538
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:05,519
the meme when the kid's riding the bike and he

539
00:32:05,559 --> 00:32:08,279
shoves the stick and the spokes and goes flying over.

540
00:32:08,599 --> 00:32:11,640
That's Leon Black. He has nobody to blame but himself.

541
00:32:11,799 --> 00:32:15,400
Dude had the whole world at his fingertips again, just

542
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:19,599
like Prince Andrew. Instead he chose to covort and hang

543
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:22,039
out with people like Epstein. He chose to hang out

544
00:32:22,079 --> 00:32:25,519
with Russian oligarchs and lord knows what else this son

545
00:32:25,519 --> 00:32:35,039
of a bitch is up to. Harris has denied the allegation,

546
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:38,279
and his attorneys have said that Black's legal actions against

547
00:32:38,359 --> 00:32:42,519
his former colleague reflect a badly misguided effort to blame

548
00:32:42,599 --> 00:32:45,559
Josh Harris for problems that are of Black's own making.

549
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:47,960
And again, it always got to be a scapegoat, right, Oh,

550
00:32:48,039 --> 00:32:51,359
it can't be me. I'm Leon Black. I'd never do

551
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:54,680
anything like this. You could never hold me accountable. But

552
00:32:54,759 --> 00:32:57,960
the reality of the matter is Leon Black has no

553
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:00,759
one to blame but himself. He's the one that had

554
00:33:00,759 --> 00:33:04,440
this relationship with Miss Ganieva, consensual or not. He's the

555
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:07,119
one that decided to give Jeffrey Epstein one hundred and

556
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:10,519
fifty eight million dollars for god knows what. So I

557
00:33:10,519 --> 00:33:12,759
don't want to hear this bullshit that everybody's out to

558
00:33:12,839 --> 00:33:16,920
get you. You know, it's a big, gigantic conspiracy involving

559
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:21,839
the whole world. Stop, just stop, because the fact is this,

560
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:26,240
You're in the position you're in because you're a stupid asshole.

561
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:28,680
For as smart as you think you are, for all

562
00:33:28,799 --> 00:33:31,079
that energy when you walk in the room like you're

563
00:33:31,119 --> 00:33:35,160
the biggest swinging you know what in the in the room,

564
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:38,000
the reality is you're just a small man, another man

565
00:33:38,079 --> 00:33:42,559
that gets off on abusing others or you know, making

566
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:45,720
financial moves that make life hard on others. Just a

567
00:33:45,759 --> 00:33:51,319
typical predator. The lawyers will meet Thursday morning with US

568
00:33:51,359 --> 00:33:55,640
District Judge paul A. Engelmeyer in Manhattan to begin planning

569
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:59,000
the course of litigation. So that's what we have so

570
00:33:59,119 --> 00:34:01,640
far with the Leon Black situation where we're at. They're

571
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:04,640
gonna meet in court, They're gonna try and hammer something out,

572
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:08,519
and it is my estimate, my guess, that they're gonna

573
00:34:08,519 --> 00:34:11,000
try and work towards a settlement here because just like

574
00:34:11,079 --> 00:34:13,800
Prince Andrew, leon Black certainly does not want to be

575
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:16,559
the post. Can you imagine the Epstein questions that are

576
00:34:16,559 --> 00:34:20,880
going to come from Wigdor It'll be a barrage. So

577
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:23,840
my guess is this clown is going to settle for

578
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:28,440
a high amount of money and we won't ever get

579
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:32,079
to a trial portion of this. But who knows maybe

580
00:34:32,119 --> 00:34:34,880
we do. Maybe Leon Black decides, Hey, you know what,

581
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:39,119
we're going all in, but for some reason I highly

582
00:34:39,159 --> 00:34:41,679
doubt it. All Right, folks, it's gonna do it for

583
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:44,000
this episode. I'll be back later on with a little

584
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,159
bit more. If you'd like to contact me, you can

585
00:34:46,199 --> 00:34:49,920
do that at Bobby Kapuci at ProtonMail dot com. That's

586
00:34:50,039 --> 00:34:56,039
bo bbuy c ap u c ci at ProtonMail dot com.

587
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:59,519
You can also find me on Twitter at bo bbuy

588
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under score c A p U c c I. The

589
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link that we discussed can be found in the description box.

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All Right, folks, until later on, enjoy your day.

