WEBVTT 1 00:00:10.839 --> 00:00:13.400 Hello, everyone, Welcome back to a new episode of the 2 00:00:13.560 --> 00:00:18.039 Poker Go Podcast. My name is Donny Peters. His name 3 00:00:18.239 --> 00:00:22.600 is Tim Duckworth. It is Thursday, August twenty first, eight 4 00:00:22.719 --> 00:00:26.920 thirty eight pm. Cramming this one in here before we 5 00:00:27.120 --> 00:00:30.920 go home. Just wrapped up day one of the third 6 00:00:31.079 --> 00:00:34.520 edition of Cash of the Titans. I know it's not 7 00:00:34.560 --> 00:00:36.000 on the rundown, but I do want to hit on 8 00:00:36.039 --> 00:00:38.960 that to start the show, so we'll talk about that. 9 00:00:39.000 --> 00:00:41.479 Tim's going to be out the door to San Diego. 10 00:00:41.560 --> 00:00:45.039 He's got to play some kangaroo ball, right, what kangaroo ball? 11 00:00:45.280 --> 00:00:46.159 Shot like that? 12 00:00:46.359 --> 00:00:50.079 What do you plan? Australian rules kangaroo ball? All right, right, 13 00:00:50.200 --> 00:00:51.880 changarou ball, Come on, kangaroo ball. 14 00:00:51.960 --> 00:00:52.240 Let's go. 15 00:00:52.520 --> 00:00:54.880 Do you bounce it? You kick it like you throw 16 00:00:54.920 --> 00:00:55.159 it out? 17 00:00:55.159 --> 00:00:55.320 Don't. 18 00:00:56.560 --> 00:00:58.759 I don't even know the rules. You have it, you 19 00:00:58.840 --> 00:01:00.799 kick it, you bounce it, run with it, you put 20 00:01:00.840 --> 00:01:03.600 it through the post. Score some calls win, some uh, 21 00:01:04.560 --> 00:01:07.319 some trophies. That's about it, all right, some tackles. 22 00:01:07.879 --> 00:01:09.920 We're also going to talk about National Heads Up Poker 23 00:01:10.000 --> 00:01:15.560 Championship because it is back. We're all no, we're not 24 00:01:16.120 --> 00:01:19.840 no spoilers. We're only going to talk about the draw 25 00:01:19.920 --> 00:01:21.640 for the Round of sixty four. We're gonna look at 26 00:01:21.640 --> 00:01:25.040 some of those early matchups see how things shake out there. 27 00:01:25.400 --> 00:01:30.599 That is still a TBD on the release schedule for it. 28 00:01:31.000 --> 00:01:34.040 It's going to be coming to Peacock to Poker, go 29 00:01:34.319 --> 00:01:36.799 to the Poker Stars channels, but that's all to be 30 00:01:36.840 --> 00:01:40.840 announced once they start locking in all the episodes and 31 00:01:40.879 --> 00:01:43.640 how it's all going to shake out. Got some news 32 00:01:43.719 --> 00:01:47.680 on the Twitter streets or social media streets. Now, I 33 00:01:47.719 --> 00:01:51.640 don't necessarily think all of this news is fully like 34 00:01:51.719 --> 00:01:54.040 the two companies going toe to toe, but I don't know. 35 00:01:54.079 --> 00:01:56.359 It's just kind of interesting that on one side you 36 00:01:56.400 --> 00:02:01.319 have Club WPT Gold came out with something very interesting, 37 00:02:01.959 --> 00:02:06.079 weird off putting too many that we'll talk about, and 38 00:02:06.120 --> 00:02:08.039 then you have GG Poker on the other side coming 39 00:02:08.039 --> 00:02:10.039 out with something that I think a lot of people 40 00:02:10.039 --> 00:02:12.159 are like, Wow, this is very cool and innovative. So 41 00:02:12.159 --> 00:02:13.800 we're going to talk about both of those things and 42 00:02:13.879 --> 00:02:16.080 what they are. If you've got to go back to 43 00:02:16.159 --> 00:02:19.599 the final episode from the World Series of Poker. While 44 00:02:19.639 --> 00:02:23.879 we were talking about Michael Mssrocky's historic win, news dropped 45 00:02:23.919 --> 00:02:26.439 that the Aussie millions was returning, and we said that 46 00:02:26.479 --> 00:02:28.560 we would talk about it on a future episode. Well, 47 00:02:28.599 --> 00:02:32.439 this is that episode. I got my resident kangaroo buddy 48 00:02:32.560 --> 00:02:34.800 right here, so we're going to hit on it the 49 00:02:34.840 --> 00:02:37.879 Ausie millions. It's I feel like, I feel like we 50 00:02:37.919 --> 00:02:39.719 know some stuff, but we don't know a lot of stuff. 51 00:02:39.759 --> 00:02:42.479 So we'll see what we know. We'll review it and 52 00:02:43.199 --> 00:02:46.280 talk about that a little bit. We got a big, big, 53 00:02:46.319 --> 00:02:49.719 big Super high Roller series that is going down right 54 00:02:49.759 --> 00:02:53.680 now over in Cyprus. It's not fully complete, but a 55 00:02:53.719 --> 00:02:55.680 couple of events that we want to hit on there. 56 00:02:55.960 --> 00:02:57.960 And then I guess, you know, kind of going back 57 00:02:57.960 --> 00:03:01.719 to the whole WPT versus p slash GG poker type 58 00:03:01.719 --> 00:03:05.479 of stuff. You got WSP's Paradise release their schedule. We 59 00:03:05.560 --> 00:03:08.400 got dates that came out for the WPT World Championship 60 00:03:08.400 --> 00:03:10.960 in December, with a couple of specific dates as it 61 00:03:11.000 --> 00:03:14.800 relates to WPT Prime Championship and the WPT World Championship. 62 00:03:15.120 --> 00:03:17.719 You know, but that part of things, the WPT stuff 63 00:03:17.759 --> 00:03:20.280 is still also kind of TBD, so we're gonna juggle 64 00:03:20.280 --> 00:03:24.120 those balls back and forth as well. 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If you guys don't know what 158 00:07:54.920 --> 00:07:58.399 Cash of the Titans is, it's basically a hybrid between 159 00:07:58.720 --> 00:08:03.120 a cash game and tournament worked into one. The players 160 00:08:03.120 --> 00:08:05.680 have to buy in for a certain amount. Okay, they 161 00:08:05.720 --> 00:08:09.480 get then a certain allotted amount of rebuys or add 162 00:08:09.480 --> 00:08:12.439 ons however they want to take them. The blind start 163 00:08:12.480 --> 00:08:15.120 at a certain level, but then they escalate. There are 164 00:08:15.240 --> 00:08:17.720 escalating levels which you don't often see in cash games. 165 00:08:18.439 --> 00:08:21.399 On top of that, they all post money on the 166 00:08:21.480 --> 00:08:26.120 side for a bonus prize pool that is divvied up, 167 00:08:26.160 --> 00:08:29.079 you know, depending on how that version of Cash of 168 00:08:29.120 --> 00:08:31.319 the Titans is structured. For this Cash of the Titans, 169 00:08:31.839 --> 00:08:34.480 each player there are seven players. They're each putting up 170 00:08:34.480 --> 00:08:38.200 seventy five k on the side, and then it's seventy 171 00:08:38.240 --> 00:08:42.039 five k to the biggest winner from day one. It 172 00:08:42.120 --> 00:08:44.639 is one hundred and fifty K to the biggest winner 173 00:08:44.679 --> 00:08:47.679 from day two. Just day two, and then the third 174 00:08:47.679 --> 00:08:50.679 and final day, three hundred thousand goes to the biggest 175 00:08:50.879 --> 00:08:54.879 overall winner from all three days. So it's a cash game, yes, 176 00:08:55.080 --> 00:08:57.879 but it also has that tournament leaderboard element to it. 177 00:08:58.159 --> 00:09:00.519 It has that prize pool element that a turn and has, 178 00:09:00.559 --> 00:09:03.799 so it's it's a blend of both worlds. For this edition, 179 00:09:03.919 --> 00:09:06.840 we have Andrew Robel, one of the heaviest of hitters. 180 00:09:06.879 --> 00:09:10.519 We have Alan Keating, an absolute maniac out there, great 181 00:09:10.559 --> 00:09:14.559 person to have on stream, Andrew Pachico aka Ace, Justin 182 00:09:14.600 --> 00:09:18.840 Gavriy Kirk Brown, Seawan Madden, and Darren Feinstein. The stakes 183 00:09:18.919 --> 00:09:20.360 started I think two hundred three. 184 00:09:20.320 --> 00:09:23.159 Hundred, two hundred three hundred and then go today went 185 00:09:23.159 --> 00:09:24.320 to two hundred and four hundred. 186 00:09:24.480 --> 00:09:27.480 So they played two levels each day across three days. 187 00:09:27.519 --> 00:09:30.559 So today they played Day one or yesterday theypending on 188 00:09:30.559 --> 00:09:33.559 when you're listening or watching to this, and then on 189 00:09:33.759 --> 00:09:35.879 Friday is going to be Day two. On Saturday is 190 00:09:35.919 --> 00:09:39.000 going to be the finale. So even if you missed 191 00:09:39.080 --> 00:09:41.720 Day one, action would highly encourage you to one go 192 00:09:41.799 --> 00:09:45.360 back and watch it because these hands were freaking ridiculous 193 00:09:45.519 --> 00:09:49.559 when you consider the whole like bonus prize money at steak. 194 00:09:49.679 --> 00:09:53.519 It's just wild how it all plays out, epic, epic 195 00:09:53.639 --> 00:09:56.519 ending to the whole thing, So be sure to go 196 00:09:56.559 --> 00:09:58.360 and watch that, and then of course it all builds 197 00:09:58.360 --> 00:10:02.159 today two, it builds today. A lot of fun that 198 00:10:02.240 --> 00:10:04.399 is available. The first level was available for free on 199 00:10:04.399 --> 00:10:07.080 the poker Go YouTube channel. The whole stream is available 200 00:10:07.120 --> 00:10:11.559 on PokerGO dot com. But I mean, we're gonna spoil 201 00:10:11.639 --> 00:10:13.480 it a little bit here because it's done and it's 202 00:10:13.480 --> 00:10:15.639 out there, you know, so if if you want to 203 00:10:15.679 --> 00:10:17.639 watch it, I would highly encourage you to skip the 204 00:10:17.679 --> 00:10:21.039 next a little bit of the episode. But I guess 205 00:10:21.080 --> 00:10:22.840 let me throw it to you. First, biggest kind of 206 00:10:22.840 --> 00:10:25.840 takeaway from day one of this Cash of the Titans. 207 00:10:26.759 --> 00:10:29.000 We thought it was gonna be a little smaller of 208 00:10:29.000 --> 00:10:31.679 a game. Yeah, that's true. I forgot to mention that. 209 00:10:31.759 --> 00:10:34.639 Oh yeah, that's the kind of thing. The plan originally 210 00:10:34.960 --> 00:10:36.919 was one hundred thousand dollars buying, and then you get 211 00:10:36.919 --> 00:10:40.919 two hundred k bullets and they kick things off. They 212 00:10:40.919 --> 00:10:42.879 got cards in the air, some pots slide of flying, 213 00:10:42.919 --> 00:10:45.120 and then all of a sudden it was you know, 214 00:10:45.159 --> 00:10:47.120 they added a couple more add ons, and they added 215 00:10:47.120 --> 00:10:49.519 a couple more add ons and basically the max right 216 00:10:49.559 --> 00:10:53.000 now is and I say right now, because we don't 217 00:10:53.039 --> 00:10:54.600 know what's gonna happen on day two of three. They 218 00:10:54.639 --> 00:10:57.559 could rules could change again. But you're allowed a total 219 00:10:57.600 --> 00:11:02.240 of seven one hundred cables. Now that sounds great, but 220 00:11:03.320 --> 00:11:05.639 it's a little unfair because you know you put it. 221 00:11:06.039 --> 00:11:08.519 It's unfair you're putting on this side money. You touched 222 00:11:08.519 --> 00:11:10.559 on a seventy five k today, he won fifty tomorrow, 223 00:11:10.639 --> 00:11:13.919 three hundred overall. And you know, some of these players 224 00:11:14.639 --> 00:11:18.639 accepted the side money and the rules and then things 225 00:11:18.679 --> 00:11:22.240 got changed. Now it's hard to kind of argue when 226 00:11:22.279 --> 00:11:24.480 certain players are like, hey, let's bump it up a 227 00:11:24.480 --> 00:11:27.240 bit more. So I feel bad for a couple of 228 00:11:27.279 --> 00:11:27.919 the guys there. 229 00:11:28.039 --> 00:11:30.360 But it's also one of those things where it's kind 230 00:11:30.360 --> 00:11:33.279 of like when you're at the final table of a 231 00:11:33.440 --> 00:11:36.360 tournament and everyone asked to do everyone wants to do 232 00:11:36.399 --> 00:11:38.159 a chop. Yeah, you don't want to be that guy 233 00:11:38.200 --> 00:11:40.519 who says no, So it's kind of awkward. I always 234 00:11:40.519 --> 00:11:43.960 say so, yeah, I know you, but I'm just saying 235 00:11:44.240 --> 00:11:47.360 even like you kind of I know ultimately you and 236 00:11:47.440 --> 00:11:50.840 I can both say we think it's unfair. Somebody could 237 00:11:50.919 --> 00:11:53.120 counter point that and say, yeah, but all the players 238 00:11:53.159 --> 00:11:55.120 agreed to it because they did, and then I would 239 00:11:55.159 --> 00:11:57.759 just say yeah, but like if you gave them a 240 00:11:57.759 --> 00:11:59.679 true serum, like would they really agree, did they really 241 00:11:59.679 --> 00:12:01.440 wanted to or they was doing it because everyone else, 242 00:12:01.919 --> 00:12:04.240 Like is it just kind of an awkward thing? So 243 00:12:05.000 --> 00:12:07.360 that part is a little bit interesting now end of 244 00:12:07.360 --> 00:12:10.200 the day, everyone did agree, right, So I get it, 245 00:12:10.240 --> 00:12:14.919 But I do feel like overall that definitely favors Keating 246 00:12:14.960 --> 00:12:17.320 and Robles specifically just because I feel like they have 247 00:12:18.039 --> 00:12:20.600 endless money, you know. I mean, I also kind of 248 00:12:20.600 --> 00:12:23.840 think Justin Gavrie might have endless money. Nothing against Justin Gavrie. 249 00:12:23.879 --> 00:12:25.919 I think he's a super nice guy. I think he's 250 00:12:25.960 --> 00:12:28.200 out there battling, whether it being no Gamble in the Future, 251 00:12:28.200 --> 00:12:31.320 Cash of the Titans, High Sake, Spoke, or whatever it is. 252 00:12:31.919 --> 00:12:34.759 This guy just cannot win in the studio. It's outrageous. Yeah, 253 00:12:35.759 --> 00:12:39.399 he can't do anything right. It's not that he can't 254 00:12:39.440 --> 00:12:41.159 do anything right, because he does a lot of stuff right. 255 00:12:41.200 --> 00:12:44.320 It's just that nothing goes his way. It reminds me 256 00:12:44.399 --> 00:12:47.759 of remember when we were through all the tournaments, especially 257 00:12:47.759 --> 00:12:52.120 the Super High buying stuff. Chris brew was just losing, losing, losing, bubbling, bubbling, bublin, 258 00:12:52.200 --> 00:12:54.200 just like huge spot after a huge spot. It reminds 259 00:12:54.240 --> 00:12:56.759 me of that, but in a cash game format, like 260 00:12:56.840 --> 00:12:58.639 Gavrey just gets his money and gets his money and 261 00:12:58.639 --> 00:13:01.519 gets his money, and like if he's ahead, he doesn't hold. 262 00:13:01.559 --> 00:13:03.600 If he's behind, he doesn't get lucky, like it just 263 00:13:03.639 --> 00:13:06.759 it doesn't matter, Like it's just it's so sick. 264 00:13:07.039 --> 00:13:10.759 This Si out there high rollpoker dot com the tracks, 265 00:13:10.840 --> 00:13:15.639 like have you seen this that before? Yeah, he's grafts 266 00:13:15.679 --> 00:13:19.519 in the positive though, So I don't know, I mean sure 267 00:13:19.519 --> 00:13:21.720 like Goss live streams and I doesn't count the episodes 268 00:13:21.759 --> 00:13:24.080 because if they're counting episodes, I think you're right. 269 00:13:24.639 --> 00:13:27.399 I mean, I'm just like I could be off in 270 00:13:27.440 --> 00:13:30.120 what I'm watching, but I feel like every time I 271 00:13:30.440 --> 00:13:32.960 see him play, it's just not going his way. 272 00:13:33.720 --> 00:13:35.600 Like I'm just I'm just sorry. I was like, look 273 00:13:35.639 --> 00:13:37.519 it has yeah, season four. 274 00:13:37.639 --> 00:13:39.480 I mean I even made a comment to like our 275 00:13:39.519 --> 00:13:42.159 group today and and Brent Hanks was like, yeah, he's 276 00:13:42.200 --> 00:13:43.240 always getting crushed. 277 00:13:43.519 --> 00:13:43.799 Yeah. 278 00:13:44.080 --> 00:13:45.799 Again, it's not like he's getting crush because he's a 279 00:13:45.840 --> 00:13:47.720 bad player. He's just like it just does not work 280 00:13:47.759 --> 00:13:50.200 out in his favor. It's just so sick to watch, 281 00:13:50.240 --> 00:13:53.120 and like you're like, at some point, like you just 282 00:13:53.159 --> 00:13:56.639 want to reward the guy for constantly showing up. Yeah, 283 00:13:56.679 --> 00:13:58.759 he just shows up and continues to get punched in 284 00:13:58.759 --> 00:14:01.399 the face, but he continues to like have a smile 285 00:14:01.440 --> 00:14:02.919 on his face, He's got a drink in his hand, 286 00:14:03.039 --> 00:14:05.120 he's he's having a good time. At least it looks 287 00:14:05.159 --> 00:14:08.000 like he's having a good time, you know. So I'm 288 00:14:08.039 --> 00:14:10.679 sure justin Gay will have his day and maybe he's 289 00:14:10.720 --> 00:14:12.879 able to use one of his seven bullets in this 290 00:14:12.879 --> 00:14:16.240 thing and come back. But man, like another day when 291 00:14:16.320 --> 00:14:19.279 just like it was like really like really it's all 292 00:14:19.320 --> 00:14:20.279 gonna happen to him again. 293 00:14:20.559 --> 00:14:23.519 So anyway, continue with what you were saying. No, no, 294 00:14:23.519 --> 00:14:25.200 I just wanted to look at the high roll poker 295 00:14:25.240 --> 00:14:27.000 to see where he kind of is. And it's not 296 00:14:27.080 --> 00:14:29.360 as bad as you know, you and my thought, but 297 00:14:30.159 --> 00:14:32.600 it also could have been a lot better maybe, you know. Yeah, 298 00:14:32.919 --> 00:14:36.200 and we might revisit this page when we get onto 299 00:14:36.200 --> 00:14:39.559 one of the later topics. But okay, yeah, look, it's 300 00:14:39.639 --> 00:14:43.240 it's an interesting format. It does make you know, like 301 00:14:43.240 --> 00:14:44.559 we said, we don't want to give too much away, 302 00:14:44.600 --> 00:14:47.840 but the final few hands made things interesting, just like 303 00:14:47.879 --> 00:14:50.639 in Cash of the Titans too, when we had Andrew Robo, 304 00:14:50.799 --> 00:14:53.639 Christen Fox and Sean Perry are playing kind of some 305 00:14:53.679 --> 00:14:55.879 massive pass in the end that you know, came down 306 00:14:55.879 --> 00:14:58.120 to the wire for that last bonus and the you 307 00:14:58.159 --> 00:15:00.759 know who, we declared us the winner. So even today 308 00:15:00.879 --> 00:15:03.000 we saw that it's probably gonna happen tomorrow, it's probably 309 00:15:03.000 --> 00:15:05.279 gonna happen on day three. It's it's a great watch 310 00:15:05.279 --> 00:15:07.080 and hopefully you know, if you did miss it, make 311 00:15:07.120 --> 00:15:10.279 sure you uh check the four replay onfi go dot com. 312 00:15:10.559 --> 00:15:14.519 Yeah, I mean, listen. There were some incredibly big pots. Yeah, 313 00:15:14.559 --> 00:15:18.919 some would say massive, shout out, massive couple. I think 314 00:15:18.960 --> 00:15:22.759 three or four were north of four hundred thousand. A 315 00:15:22.840 --> 00:15:26.200 couple of them went over the half million mark, which 316 00:15:26.240 --> 00:15:28.120 when you're playing two hundred three hundred and two hundred 317 00:15:28.120 --> 00:15:31.639 four hundred, I mean that's wildly big. Yeah, I mean 318 00:15:31.679 --> 00:15:35.960 these guys were absolutely blasting. You had a huge three 319 00:15:35.960 --> 00:15:39.240 way all in at one point, you know, you had 320 00:15:40.200 --> 00:15:42.440 the guys playing for it all and at another point 321 00:15:42.480 --> 00:15:45.200 it was Darren Feinstein versus Alan Keating versus we both 322 00:15:45.240 --> 00:15:47.120 had middle pair on the flop and the money just 323 00:15:47.159 --> 00:15:48.759 got in. I mean Keating had middle pair and a 324 00:15:48.799 --> 00:15:52.960 flush straw. But like still just like NonStop, like just 325 00:15:53.039 --> 00:15:56.039 crazy stuff. Keating playing some hands blind toward the end, 326 00:15:56.159 --> 00:15:59.000 like it was just wild, wild wild. They get to 327 00:15:59.039 --> 00:16:03.600 the second to last hand of the night, an insane 328 00:16:03.679 --> 00:16:07.360 clash happens between Justin Gavriy and and Alan Keating. Now, 329 00:16:07.440 --> 00:16:10.320 when the money went in, Gavriy was behind, yes, but 330 00:16:10.360 --> 00:16:12.559 when you're up against a wild card that is Alan 331 00:16:12.639 --> 00:16:14.840 Keating on the Queen ten to seven board and you 332 00:16:14.919 --> 00:16:18.279 got Queen jack, I can't fault Justin Gavriy for going 333 00:16:18.279 --> 00:16:20.440 broke there. And Keating's just got the ten seven yeah, 334 00:16:20.480 --> 00:16:22.679 and they put fourteen k in pre flop each, so 335 00:16:22.720 --> 00:16:25.840 it's like, you know, like really again, just just going 336 00:16:25.879 --> 00:16:29.759 bad for Justin Gavriy there. And Keating ends up on 337 00:16:29.840 --> 00:16:31.879 that second to last hand of the night. He storms 338 00:16:31.960 --> 00:16:34.559 all the way back to take the day's lead by 339 00:16:34.639 --> 00:16:37.919 five K five K, and then the final hand has 340 00:16:37.960 --> 00:16:40.759 to play out where like him and Roebul and Sean 341 00:16:40.840 --> 00:16:43.759 Madden are involved in this kind of weird three way 342 00:16:43.799 --> 00:16:46.279 pot that Sean Madden ends up winning. And because he 343 00:16:46.399 --> 00:16:50.200 wins it, you know, Keating secures the day's end, wins, 344 00:16:50.200 --> 00:16:52.600 so he gets that seventy five thousand dollars bonus. I mean, 345 00:16:52.639 --> 00:16:55.519 the whole thing is just it was an incredible episode 346 00:16:55.559 --> 00:16:58.840 from start to finish. It started with a bang. You know, 347 00:16:58.879 --> 00:17:01.480 there was that hand right at the beginning again Justin Gavriy. 348 00:17:01.919 --> 00:17:05.519 He gets King Queen. Now he three bets. Alan Keaton 349 00:17:05.519 --> 00:17:08.240 gets Aces, which is like, it's just unfair like that. 350 00:17:08.279 --> 00:17:10.279 He gets Ace to see four bets, gets back to Keating. 351 00:17:10.319 --> 00:17:13.000 He calls with King Queen. Suit can't fault anything there. 352 00:17:13.119 --> 00:17:17.200 It's Alan Keaton could have complete napkins. It comes King High. Okay, 353 00:17:17.200 --> 00:17:21.039 this is horrible news for Justin Gavriy turns a King. 354 00:17:21.359 --> 00:17:23.400 Oh this is great news for Justin gavrie Oh no, 355 00:17:23.519 --> 00:17:25.880 rivers an Ace. And then that's when all the money 356 00:17:25.920 --> 00:17:28.880 just decides to go in. And of course Keating's got 357 00:17:28.880 --> 00:17:32.160 the full house over the trips for Justin Gavriy, and 358 00:17:32.240 --> 00:17:34.200 just like bang, right out of the gate. You know, 359 00:17:34.279 --> 00:17:36.279 welcome to Cash of the Titans. Alan Keating, you are 360 00:17:36.319 --> 00:17:38.799 just the absolute best, I guess, and just you know, 361 00:17:38.880 --> 00:17:42.559 more bad news for Justin Gavriy. But overall a really 362 00:17:42.599 --> 00:17:45.960 really great show today, four hours of play, just epic 363 00:17:46.000 --> 00:17:48.759 from start to finish. One player busted out. That was 364 00:17:48.799 --> 00:17:52.640 Ace Pachico. He lost I believe two twenty five. And 365 00:17:52.680 --> 00:17:56.319 then I know you you mentioned obviously the cap is 366 00:17:56.400 --> 00:17:58.759 seven hundred that you can lose seven to seventy five 367 00:17:58.799 --> 00:18:00.920 total if you include the seventy five thousand dollars side bet. 368 00:18:01.000 --> 00:18:04.359 But you know, A said, all right, that's my biggest 369 00:18:04.359 --> 00:18:07.039 loss or my stop loss. I'm out, you know for 370 00:18:07.079 --> 00:18:09.359 the day. He called it, called it quits, you know, 371 00:18:09.480 --> 00:18:12.680 essentially forfeiting his seventy five k side bet. And he's done. 372 00:18:12.680 --> 00:18:15.920 So they're down to six. Right, there was a big hand, 373 00:18:16.559 --> 00:18:18.160 that big hand that I mentioned with the queen jack 374 00:18:18.200 --> 00:18:20.759 for Gavrie versus the ten seven for Keating, that happened 375 00:18:20.759 --> 00:18:22.839 on the second to last hand of the night. Gafrey 376 00:18:22.880 --> 00:18:25.720 ends up reloading for one of his bullets. Hunter K 377 00:18:25.799 --> 00:18:29.720 back on the table. He plays one more hand. They 378 00:18:29.799 --> 00:18:33.119 end up bagging, I guess. But they come back with 379 00:18:33.160 --> 00:18:35.160 the same number of chips, right, yeah, oh they can 380 00:18:35.240 --> 00:18:37.279 use the add ons and yeah, but they can't like 381 00:18:37.359 --> 00:18:40.640 you can't like a resets like Keating's got Keating's got 382 00:18:40.680 --> 00:18:43.400 over five hundred K on the table. Roboles got I 383 00:18:43.400 --> 00:18:45.440 think over I think he is all seven hundred maybe 384 00:18:45.440 --> 00:18:47.759 on the table. Actually I don't know if he used 385 00:18:47.799 --> 00:18:50.240 it all. I think he had six or seven hundred 386 00:18:50.240 --> 00:18:52.400 on the table. Yeah, and he's up like two hundred 387 00:18:52.920 --> 00:18:56.559 thirty or something to twenty. So something like that crazy, 388 00:18:56.559 --> 00:18:59.039 crazy day of poker. I would highly encourage you guys 389 00:18:59.680 --> 00:19:02.519 to go back and watch this if you want to 390 00:19:02.599 --> 00:19:04.759 check it out, because I think this is one of 391 00:19:04.839 --> 00:19:07.880 the best products that Poker gro puts out there. I 392 00:19:08.480 --> 00:19:11.039 truly believe that. I think if you guys have listened 393 00:19:11.079 --> 00:19:13.799 to the show long enough, you would trust that I 394 00:19:13.839 --> 00:19:18.440 would tell you if it wasn't so yeah, the Cash 395 00:19:18.480 --> 00:19:21.079 of the Titans. I just really think that this format 396 00:19:21.119 --> 00:19:24.440 is super unique. I will also say that along those lines, 397 00:19:24.559 --> 00:19:29.920 I would not ever do it more than once, maybe 398 00:19:30.200 --> 00:19:32.039 twice a year. Like I think this is one of 399 00:19:32.039 --> 00:19:34.599 those things that it's unique, and part of it being 400 00:19:34.799 --> 00:19:38.599 special is that it doesn't happen often, like it's like 401 00:19:38.599 --> 00:19:40.440 a once a year thing, you know, Like if you 402 00:19:40.519 --> 00:19:43.079 started to be like, Okay, this format works, let's do 403 00:19:43.079 --> 00:19:45.279 it every single week, I'd be like, Okay, you're now 404 00:19:45.279 --> 00:19:47.799 you're ruining it, like you're saturating the whole thing. So 405 00:19:48.319 --> 00:19:50.599 let's just keep it to once a year. Build it 406 00:19:50.680 --> 00:19:53.480 up to be a big thing. You know, it becomes 407 00:19:53.559 --> 00:19:56.200 kind of an event in a way. And I really like, 408 00:19:57.960 --> 00:20:00.839 all right, let's move on to another big event, the 409 00:20:00.960 --> 00:20:05.559 National Heads Up Poker Championship. It is back, baby, sixty 410 00:20:05.839 --> 00:20:10.319 four players. They were drawn to the first round. When 411 00:20:10.400 --> 00:20:12.960 did that happen? A couple weeks ago they had the 412 00:20:13.039 --> 00:20:15.720 draw party in here, which was July thirty. 413 00:20:15.759 --> 00:20:16.039 First. 414 00:20:16.359 --> 00:20:20.640 The draw party was awesome. I didn't know what to 415 00:20:20.720 --> 00:20:24.079 expect for the draw party. You always go into those things. 416 00:20:24.400 --> 00:20:27.720 You're going into the unknown. You know who's going to 417 00:20:27.799 --> 00:20:29.640 show up. What's the vibe going to be? 418 00:20:29.759 --> 00:20:29.880 Like? 419 00:20:30.000 --> 00:20:32.319 Is there gonna be a buzz or an energy in 420 00:20:32.359 --> 00:20:35.119 the studio because this event is back. You know, we 421 00:20:35.519 --> 00:20:38.200 know what the old draw parties used to be. I 422 00:20:38.480 --> 00:20:41.759 got to go to a couple of them. I hit 423 00:20:41.799 --> 00:20:46.160 a bad beat jackpot at one of them. But if 424 00:20:46.200 --> 00:20:48.599 you want to go on PokerGO dot com where Tim's 425 00:20:48.599 --> 00:20:50.640 been putting up all of the past seasons, and you 426 00:20:50.680 --> 00:20:52.640 can see the draw party in some of that. Yeah, 427 00:20:52.680 --> 00:20:55.319 You're like they're in like huge ballrooms, like they're all 428 00:20:55.319 --> 00:20:57.759 filling out their brackets, getting called up on stage, like 429 00:20:57.799 --> 00:21:00.359 it's a whole it's a whole thing. Now, this one 430 00:21:00.559 --> 00:21:03.319 wasn't as big as back then, but this was still 431 00:21:03.359 --> 00:21:04.960 I mean the room was freaking buzzy. 432 00:21:05.039 --> 00:21:07.720 Yeah, so you know, a lot. We had a lot 433 00:21:07.720 --> 00:21:10.440 of fun there. At least fifty five of the players here. 434 00:21:10.480 --> 00:21:15.519 We had a few that got delayed traveling in, you know, 435 00:21:15.599 --> 00:21:18.720 flying in from La San France, et cetera. But I 436 00:21:18.720 --> 00:21:21.119 thought getting fifty five other players here was pretty good. 437 00:21:21.160 --> 00:21:23.519 Obviously I had some plus one's, we had media here. 438 00:21:24.079 --> 00:21:26.200 It was fun. You're right, like there was everyone kind 439 00:21:26.240 --> 00:21:28.960 of congregated in that room. We drew people in, they 440 00:21:28.960 --> 00:21:31.680 came in, they talked a little shit about their opponents, 441 00:21:31.720 --> 00:21:34.799 shook hands, took some photos. There's a bit of side 442 00:21:34.799 --> 00:21:37.680 bets going on, you know, like there was a lot 443 00:21:37.759 --> 00:21:41.319 of actally even before, like you know, betting actual brackets, 444 00:21:41.400 --> 00:21:44.160 but just you know, I'm going to get picked before you, 445 00:21:44.559 --> 00:21:47.559 and it's it's all random, so they're basically just flipping coins. 446 00:21:47.599 --> 00:21:50.119 But I think it was it was a great atmosphere. 447 00:21:50.160 --> 00:21:52.279 So yeah, very very fun night. Yeah. 448 00:21:52.319 --> 00:21:55.680 So that that really got you know, the buzz going 449 00:21:55.759 --> 00:21:58.519 and got me excited, you know, because again you're going 450 00:21:58.559 --> 00:22:00.359 into the unknown. You don't really know what to back, 451 00:22:00.400 --> 00:22:02.000 you don't know how people are going to receive it. 452 00:22:02.079 --> 00:22:07.039 But I think everyone there was generally excited, very very 453 00:22:07.119 --> 00:22:09.759 happy to be involved with it all. And then we 454 00:22:09.799 --> 00:22:13.759 did the draw, and the draw was a lot of fun. 455 00:22:13.880 --> 00:22:17.079 You know, Yes, some people weren't there, but I think 456 00:22:17.119 --> 00:22:19.599 you had you had Jeff Platt doing the MC duties 457 00:22:19.720 --> 00:22:22.599 and you know, pulling the names and whatnot. There was 458 00:22:22.640 --> 00:22:25.599 some you know, friendly ribbing, some jabs thrown at times. 459 00:22:25.680 --> 00:22:28.240 You know, you had people kind of going at each 460 00:22:28.279 --> 00:22:31.200 other when they were called up. So yeah, so so 461 00:22:31.279 --> 00:22:34.519 let's just run through, you know, some of the matchups, 462 00:22:34.640 --> 00:22:37.319 you know, you can find the brackets were posted on 463 00:22:37.440 --> 00:22:40.759 the poker ro social channels. Again, this is you know, 464 00:22:40.799 --> 00:22:42.960 coming out later and I know various media outs have 465 00:22:42.960 --> 00:22:45.319 written about the round of sixty four. I'm not going 466 00:22:45.400 --> 00:22:48.200 to spoil anything here, but I do want to know, 467 00:22:48.519 --> 00:22:52.200 first off, who is the most exciting first round matchup 468 00:22:52.440 --> 00:22:53.400 in your opinion? 469 00:22:54.240 --> 00:22:58.240 I personally think we're going to go into this diamonds 470 00:22:58.759 --> 00:23:00.039 bracket right down here. 471 00:23:00.359 --> 00:23:03.319 I'm fully prepared for you to say something freaking nuts 472 00:23:03.400 --> 00:23:05.279 right now, like I with the way that you do 473 00:23:05.440 --> 00:23:08.079 do shit, you might say the most outrageous thing ever, 474 00:23:08.400 --> 00:23:09.200 So go ahead. 475 00:23:09.160 --> 00:23:12.240 Not this time. It's to me. It was three Coin 476 00:23:12.599 --> 00:23:15.880 versus Michael Msrah. You got the main event. That's a 477 00:23:15.880 --> 00:23:19.119 good one versus three Coin. Now, it's not just that 478 00:23:19.200 --> 00:23:22.079 you gots some wild personalities, but it's also the style 479 00:23:22.160 --> 00:23:25.279 of play. We've seen three Coin on, you know, hundreds 480 00:23:25.319 --> 00:23:28.680 of different cash games, just a crazy maniac. We've seen 481 00:23:28.720 --> 00:23:32.319 Grinder doing this thing at the main event. Like it's 482 00:23:32.359 --> 00:23:36.839 just a clash of personalities, a clash of styles. You know. Well, 483 00:23:36.839 --> 00:23:39.000 if we're talking about outfits, we've got three Coin with 484 00:23:39.039 --> 00:23:41.400 all his stuff. We got Grinder with seventeen patches on, 485 00:23:41.960 --> 00:23:45.480 you know. Like it's to me, was the best, the 486 00:23:45.559 --> 00:23:48.319 best possible matchup that first round. 487 00:23:49.920 --> 00:23:51.920 I wrote that one down. Yeah it is a very 488 00:23:52.000 --> 00:23:53.920 very good one. But I wrote down a backup as well. 489 00:23:53.960 --> 00:23:55.920 So I'll go with the backup because you picked that one. 490 00:23:55.960 --> 00:23:58.599 But I agree with that one is probably my number 491 00:23:58.640 --> 00:24:03.160 one pick. I'll with Alan Keating versus Sean Deep. I 492 00:24:03.200 --> 00:24:07.039 think that that's just incredible, you know, I mean, Sean 493 00:24:07.119 --> 00:24:12.039 Deep is the tournament professional, you know, one of the 494 00:24:12.039 --> 00:24:14.279 best in the world, if not the best, one of 495 00:24:14.279 --> 00:24:18.599 the best to ever do it. Alan Keating is wild, 496 00:24:19.039 --> 00:24:22.640 he'll gamble it up. He's fearless, you know. So, But 497 00:24:22.680 --> 00:24:24.839 I also think, you know, Sean is very fearless in 498 00:24:24.839 --> 00:24:27.079 a lot of ways. So maybe Sean is a bit 499 00:24:27.079 --> 00:24:30.880 more technical than Alan Keating. The both these guys do 500 00:24:30.960 --> 00:24:34.400 have really big, colorful personalities. I think they're gonna have 501 00:24:34.400 --> 00:24:36.920 a lot of fun. I also think that the clash 502 00:24:36.960 --> 00:24:40.480 of styles is going to be very interesting here. So 503 00:24:41.400 --> 00:24:44.160 that's one that that I'm I'm very much looking forward to. 504 00:24:44.240 --> 00:24:47.039 And it's it's in the same part of the bracket, 505 00:24:47.119 --> 00:24:51.920 the Diamonds as yours. So yeah, I think it'll be 506 00:24:51.960 --> 00:24:54.680 hard for production to pick which will be like the 507 00:24:54.720 --> 00:24:57.160 main feature, you know, because one match is always like 508 00:24:57.200 --> 00:25:01.960 that main feature, but that one is very good. Some 509 00:25:02.319 --> 00:25:07.599 other some other matchups from that Diamonds portion of the bracket. 510 00:25:07.599 --> 00:25:11.480 You have Kevin Pollock versus live Bury. We talked about 511 00:25:11.559 --> 00:25:14.599 Keating versus deeb. You have Chris Moneymaker versus Igor Kirganov. 512 00:25:15.240 --> 00:25:18.839 Schwan Lu takes on Doug Polk, Dan Cats takes on 513 00:25:19.000 --> 00:25:23.480 Charlie Hook Victoria Liveshits versus David Williams, and David Williams 514 00:25:23.519 --> 00:25:27.440 has an interesting stat he's what one of three people want. 515 00:25:27.480 --> 00:25:31.640 Of three people to play all nine seasons, who are 516 00:25:31.640 --> 00:25:34.720 the other two? Can you guess? Hm? 517 00:25:35.119 --> 00:25:36.039 When did they start again? 518 00:25:36.559 --> 00:25:40.319 Two? Three? No? 519 00:25:41.079 --> 00:25:46.000 Chris Moneymaker correct, yes, as long as as long as 520 00:25:46.039 --> 00:25:48.079 they started after Chris Moneymaker won the main event. 521 00:25:48.079 --> 00:25:52.279 I was gonna say, is the other one has to 522 00:25:52.279 --> 00:25:52.559 be made? 523 00:25:52.839 --> 00:25:54.680 Let me let me let me say this for the viewers, 524 00:25:55.000 --> 00:25:59.640 and sorry if I'm upsetting everyone, but this year there's 525 00:25:59.640 --> 00:26:01.480 no I you know, in to Grande, no helm. Yeah, 526 00:26:01.519 --> 00:26:04.559 scheduling conflicts for all three of them. And when people 527 00:26:04.720 --> 00:26:07.319 bitching complaints, say why didn't you guys get them? They 528 00:26:07.359 --> 00:26:10.000 trust me. They were the first three people we called. Okay, like, 529 00:26:10.160 --> 00:26:13.200 just trust us. We're not that dumb. Okay, come on, 530 00:26:13.359 --> 00:26:15.240 give us a little bit of credit here. First three 531 00:26:15.240 --> 00:26:18.079 people we called and you know, all turned it down 532 00:26:18.119 --> 00:26:19.599 for various scheduling reasons. 533 00:26:19.599 --> 00:26:20.359 So there's that. 534 00:26:20.480 --> 00:26:22.680 Okay, So don't go saying, oh, you guys didn't get 535 00:26:22.680 --> 00:26:25.759 these people. Trust us, Okay, they were the first three 536 00:26:25.799 --> 00:26:27.920 on the list. No, I know that that, so I'm 537 00:26:27.920 --> 00:26:28.599 not going to guess them. 538 00:26:28.640 --> 00:26:33.119 Obviously, they obviously had to play this year. Eric said, 539 00:26:33.160 --> 00:26:36.960 oh they boom that. Speaking of some of those names 540 00:26:36.960 --> 00:26:41.839 you did mention they have played nearly every year. Some 541 00:26:41.880 --> 00:26:44.200 of the other guys who have played eight seasons, Hu say, 542 00:26:44.319 --> 00:26:47.559 Barry Green, Seined Doo Bronson Blavy, Phil Lock, Antonio s. 543 00:26:47.599 --> 00:26:51.920 Frondiri also was I believe invited but couldn't make it right. 544 00:26:53.000 --> 00:26:56.400 I just know about the big three, Eric Linger and 545 00:26:56.519 --> 00:26:59.440 Greg rayma Elie Elizra, Mike Mattis, how they was some 546 00:26:59.519 --> 00:27:03.440 of the Yeah, they were ones that couldn't get to 547 00:27:03.519 --> 00:27:07.119 the ninth. But one matchup I thought was pretty interesting 548 00:27:07.720 --> 00:27:11.480 was over here, I'm going to run over the spades bracket, Okay, 549 00:27:12.039 --> 00:27:15.920 Casey Mills pokemonma versus Sa Taylor. Yeah, you know, it's 550 00:27:15.960 --> 00:27:19.400 good to have women represented here in the National Heads 551 00:27:19.440 --> 00:27:23.160 Up Championship. Now over the last all, this are the 552 00:27:23.240 --> 00:27:27.480 nine season. Of all nine seasons, this was the sixth 553 00:27:27.519 --> 00:27:32.400 time two girls have two ladies faced off. So yeah, 554 00:27:32.440 --> 00:27:34.640 good to see that. Good to see if you you know, 555 00:27:34.720 --> 00:27:38.839 potential main event champion matchups, you know, brewing, depending how 556 00:27:38.880 --> 00:27:40.839 things go, that's always something to watch. Out for but 557 00:27:42.480 --> 00:27:44.200 I thought it was I thought it was a decent 558 00:27:44.240 --> 00:27:46.200 sixty four. It's not like like you said, we didn't 559 00:27:46.200 --> 00:27:49.440 get run an ivy, But it's hard to get everyone here, 560 00:27:49.680 --> 00:27:51.680 get people to put up twenty five k, get all 561 00:27:51.680 --> 00:27:54.920 their schedules put together. So for what we had to 562 00:27:55.000 --> 00:27:57.279 kind of do with the time we had, I thought, 563 00:27:58.279 --> 00:28:00.000 you know, it wasn't it wasn't terrible at all. 564 00:28:00.359 --> 00:28:02.839 Yeah, just quickly on the women that played you mentioned 565 00:28:02.920 --> 00:28:06.240 Casey Lynn Mills aka Poke Omama Esther, Taylor E t 566 00:28:06.559 --> 00:28:10.279 is in there, Maria Kanakhova is in there. Who else? 567 00:28:10.319 --> 00:28:12.079 We got Christy Foxon. 568 00:28:11.920 --> 00:28:14.359 At Christy Foxon, we got Victoria Liftchits who I already 569 00:28:14.359 --> 00:28:18.599 mentioned we had Lived Very three as well, and Schwanlu. 570 00:28:18.880 --> 00:28:22.920 So that's that's I mean, that's a good number of women. Yeah, 571 00:28:23.079 --> 00:28:25.079 don't know what Maria Hoe was doing. Would have loved 572 00:28:25.079 --> 00:28:26.599 this scene or in this, but I don't know what 573 00:28:26.640 --> 00:28:31.400 she's doing. But yeah, all right, toughest first round matchup? 574 00:28:31.880 --> 00:28:35.359 Toughest I mean, like, okay, when when per player A 575 00:28:36.200 --> 00:28:39.720 knows that they're playing player B, basically they would say, like, 576 00:28:39.839 --> 00:28:41.720 on a scale of one to ten, how tough is 577 00:28:41.720 --> 00:28:45.160 my opponent? Right, combined with when player B looks at 578 00:28:45.200 --> 00:28:47.880 player A like, so it's like both of them the 579 00:28:47.960 --> 00:28:50.400 average right, because because it might be like, you know, 580 00:28:51.640 --> 00:28:54.039 if it's Sean de versus me Sean Deep, I might 581 00:28:54.039 --> 00:28:56.039 think that's very tough, but Sean Deep doesn't think it tough, 582 00:28:56.079 --> 00:28:57.799 so it lowers the average, right. So that's what I'm 583 00:28:57.799 --> 00:28:58.480 going for here. 584 00:28:59.119 --> 00:29:02.200 I we're going to disagree here, which is fine. 585 00:29:02.160 --> 00:29:05.759 Great love it can't wait. Who are you gonna pick something? 586 00:29:05.799 --> 00:29:11.680 You're gonna pick something absurd. You're gonna pick side Alan Roble. 587 00:29:11.880 --> 00:29:12.720 That was on the list. 588 00:29:13.799 --> 00:29:14.519 That's legitimate. 589 00:29:14.599 --> 00:29:18.920 Yeah, that's I think it's Jesse Linus Kristen Foxon for 590 00:29:18.920 --> 00:29:21.279 for a couple of different reasons. Obviously, there's a lot 591 00:29:21.319 --> 00:29:24.400 of you know, a lot of experiences to have played 592 00:29:24.440 --> 00:29:27.200 against each other. Right here in the studio, When Chrissy 593 00:29:27.279 --> 00:29:31.400 sees Jesse, right, she's thinking, well, this is not the 594 00:29:31.440 --> 00:29:34.480 standard gto guy. This is helmet. This is a crazy 595 00:29:34.519 --> 00:29:36.799 guy who believes in angels and gorillas and all these 596 00:29:36.880 --> 00:29:39.000 kinds of things. So it's a tough opponent. She would 597 00:29:39.000 --> 00:29:42.519 probably rather face a Sam Soever, you know, or a 598 00:29:42.519 --> 00:29:46.160 Sean Winter or Jason Kuhn. Now Jesse is looking at 599 00:29:46.200 --> 00:29:48.400 christ yep. She's one of the best players in the world, 600 00:29:48.440 --> 00:29:50.960 one of the best female players in the world, and 601 00:29:51.640 --> 00:29:54.359 there's a lot of pressure on him to also beat 602 00:29:54.400 --> 00:29:56.640 her and advance the next round. So I think there's 603 00:29:56.640 --> 00:29:59.079 a little bit more in that matchup than just like 604 00:29:59.720 --> 00:30:01.839 this guys really good, this lady's really good. I think 605 00:30:01.839 --> 00:30:03.799 there's a little bit more to that one. And obviously 606 00:30:04.079 --> 00:30:07.279 they're both you know, top of the world right now. 607 00:30:07.319 --> 00:30:11.640 So that's my that's my toughest matchup, but there's definitely 608 00:30:11.640 --> 00:30:12.920 a few more you could choose from here. 609 00:30:13.599 --> 00:30:17.480 I picked Sam's overroll versus Jonathan Jaffee. Ye. I think 610 00:30:17.519 --> 00:30:21.799 those guys are very, very, very good players. I know 611 00:30:21.880 --> 00:30:24.839 that this structure is made for TV structure, it's a 612 00:30:24.880 --> 00:30:28.319 bit faster, yes, but I think both of these guys 613 00:30:28.440 --> 00:30:32.759 are very very good and very well studied that they're 614 00:30:32.759 --> 00:30:35.640 going to be able to adapt the structure heading in. So, 615 00:30:35.920 --> 00:30:37.519 you know, I don't think anyone's going to have any 616 00:30:37.519 --> 00:30:39.839 sort of advantage because they can adapt to the structure 617 00:30:39.839 --> 00:30:42.119 better than the other person in this spot. You know, 618 00:30:42.160 --> 00:30:44.680 if I'm Sam's overroll, I don't want to draw John 619 00:30:44.759 --> 00:30:46.839 Jaffee from this field. If I'm John Jaffe, I don't 620 00:30:46.880 --> 00:30:48.839 want to draw Sam's overroll from this field, you know. 621 00:30:48.880 --> 00:30:51.319 So that's that's a really really good one. I mentioned 622 00:30:51.359 --> 00:30:54.319 the side al and Robo one. Another tough one, just 623 00:30:54.400 --> 00:30:58.000 quickly scrolling through. How about Brian Rast and Renlin? You know, 624 00:30:58.359 --> 00:31:00.599 I know Renlin is kind of a joke exter a lot, 625 00:31:00.640 --> 00:31:03.480 but still a very good player. I think Eric Linger 626 00:31:03.559 --> 00:31:07.000 and Jason Kuhn is like sneaky tough. I mean e Dogg. 627 00:31:07.160 --> 00:31:08.839 I know, you know you might say, like he's not 628 00:31:08.920 --> 00:31:12.640 Jason Kuhn, Yes, okay, but Eatogg very very good. Yeah, right, 629 00:31:13.480 --> 00:31:16.519 has that old school type of player in him, but 630 00:31:16.640 --> 00:31:19.799 is still around doing successful things in poker. So you know, 631 00:31:19.839 --> 00:31:21.480 if I'm Jason Kuhn, I'm not like this is no 632 00:31:21.559 --> 00:31:24.079 walk in the park. Eat dog is a very good player. Also, 633 00:31:24.319 --> 00:31:26.720 if you're Jason Kuhn, you know that Eric Lingern has 634 00:31:26.720 --> 00:31:29.839 played this event before, and I mean you did the 635 00:31:29.880 --> 00:31:32.880 structure stuff. It's not like wildly different or anything from 636 00:31:32.920 --> 00:31:35.079 from past year. So you know, I think Eric Linger 637 00:31:35.200 --> 00:31:37.799 knows like kind of what to expect, right, So I 638 00:31:37.839 --> 00:31:39.559 think that that's an interesting matchup there. 639 00:31:39.640 --> 00:31:42.279 Another interesting one to me is Mike Madison saving Childwick. 640 00:31:43.319 --> 00:31:45.359 La think of Mike Madis, how he's not Steven Chitwick, 641 00:31:45.559 --> 00:31:47.720 true Savin Chidwick, like I said, one of the best 642 00:31:47.720 --> 00:31:51.319 players in the world, very studied, you know, maybe the 643 00:31:51.359 --> 00:31:54.680 most perfect poker player out there. Mike Madison a little 644 00:31:54.680 --> 00:31:56.920 bit of a feel. But you have to remember, this 645 00:31:57.000 --> 00:31:59.359 guy's gonna fight for the last chip, and he is 646 00:31:59.440 --> 00:32:04.599 also the defending champion. You know, obviously we're gonna wind 647 00:32:04.599 --> 00:32:07.759 it back to twenty thirteen when he defeated Phil helm 648 00:32:07.759 --> 00:32:10.480 With to win the eighth season of the National Heads 649 00:32:10.519 --> 00:32:13.000 Up Championship. But like you got to think about that, 650 00:32:13.319 --> 00:32:16.319 you know, defending champion's gonna five for every chip. You know, 651 00:32:16.440 --> 00:32:19.359 even though he's taken on saving Shiitdwick, that that matchup 652 00:32:19.440 --> 00:32:22.240 is is probably gonna be pretty tough for both players. 653 00:32:22.240 --> 00:32:24.680 You know, Yeah, I think Swan Louvers Doug Polk is 654 00:32:24.720 --> 00:32:27.279 a pretty tough matchup for both of those players. One 655 00:32:27.319 --> 00:32:29.279 thing that I wanted to point out justin Gafriy Drew 656 00:32:29.359 --> 00:32:33.240 john Smith. So the John Smith Johns he heads up 657 00:32:33.319 --> 00:32:34.240 poker legend. 658 00:32:34.319 --> 00:32:37.839 Gavrey loses again, good luck, it's John Smith john Smith 659 00:32:38.640 --> 00:32:39.720 cont loose heads up. 660 00:32:39.839 --> 00:32:42.880 I mean, I thought it was cool when Justin Gavriy 661 00:32:43.079 --> 00:32:47.599 drew John Smith. And even though Justin Gavriy isn't like 662 00:32:48.000 --> 00:32:50.920 he hasn't isn't someone who's been around like the poker 663 00:32:51.000 --> 00:32:52.599 scene like a lot of these guys have for as 664 00:32:52.599 --> 00:32:55.960 long as these guys have, but he he knew who 665 00:32:56.039 --> 00:32:58.440 John Smith was. He's like, I got a battle this legend. 666 00:32:58.440 --> 00:33:00.720 The guy's iconic, like all this sort of like he 667 00:33:00.799 --> 00:33:03.319 knows the legend of John Smith, which I thought was 668 00:33:03.440 --> 00:33:06.759 very cool. So, you know, John Smith, we got him 669 00:33:06.759 --> 00:33:09.880 in this thing. You know, he was kind of a 670 00:33:09.880 --> 00:33:14.000 bit of a I don't know, needle and a haystack 671 00:33:14.039 --> 00:33:16.119 type of guy. Like trying to contact him, it's like 672 00:33:16.400 --> 00:33:18.279 shot in the dark, you know, and we got ahold 673 00:33:18.319 --> 00:33:20.599 of him. So he's out here playing. So you know, 674 00:33:20.599 --> 00:33:25.160 I think that's very cool as well. Easiest bracket, easiest 675 00:33:25.240 --> 00:33:27.839 quadrant of the bracket. 676 00:33:28.400 --> 00:33:30.119 To me, it was spades, you know. 677 00:33:30.200 --> 00:33:31.400 I look, I mean that's mine too. 678 00:33:31.640 --> 00:33:33.279 You look at some of the names that you know, 679 00:33:33.359 --> 00:33:35.079 no offense of these guys, if they listening. 680 00:33:34.839 --> 00:33:39.079 To defense, offense call him, we'll. 681 00:33:38.880 --> 00:33:41.200 Call him VIPs, We'll call him Wales. But I'm gonna 682 00:33:41.240 --> 00:33:43.680 lead with Boston Robb Love the guy, not the best 683 00:33:43.680 --> 00:33:46.720 bucket player, Rob Brig. I'm not shure how much bucker 684 00:33:46.720 --> 00:33:48.640 he's played. He's off making Hollywood movies. 685 00:33:48.720 --> 00:33:52.680 I have, like somebody like Rob wriggle right, a Hollywood 686 00:33:52.720 --> 00:33:55.240 actor like I I have. You could tell me he 687 00:33:55.279 --> 00:33:57.279 plays a home game three times a week and he's 688 00:33:57.359 --> 00:33:58.119 very seasoned. 689 00:33:58.279 --> 00:33:58.519 You know. 690 00:33:58.720 --> 00:34:01.720 Maybe he's not a Jason Komb, but he you know, 691 00:34:01.880 --> 00:34:05.640 is no fish out of water, right. So, but he 692 00:34:05.680 --> 00:34:07.599 could also just like have never picked up cards before. 693 00:34:07.799 --> 00:34:09.440 The only reason I say that is because I've been 694 00:34:09.480 --> 00:34:12.159 around poker long enough. I've been I've seen plenty of 695 00:34:12.199 --> 00:34:15.280 these made for TV shows where there have been times 696 00:34:15.320 --> 00:34:18.280 when like literally a celebrity shows up and does not 697 00:34:18.440 --> 00:34:20.920 know the game, but they're they're there like for the 698 00:34:20.960 --> 00:34:23.440 appearance to get on TV, like all that sort of stuff. So, 699 00:34:23.679 --> 00:34:26.239 I mean, I have no idea what these with these 700 00:34:26.280 --> 00:34:27.559 celebrities bring to the table. 701 00:34:27.960 --> 00:34:31.679 Throwing Phil Heelma's best friend Jason Calacanis. And it's not 702 00:34:31.760 --> 00:34:34.840 just the VP. If we talk about the super pros, 703 00:34:35.480 --> 00:34:40.599 the superpros in the Spades bracket much less accomplished than 704 00:34:40.920 --> 00:34:43.199 the superpris and the other brackets. So that's why to 705 00:34:43.239 --> 00:34:47.039 May Spades definitely the softest of them all, but you 706 00:34:47.039 --> 00:34:50.840 know they're also fairly close. Yeah, so I agree with you. 707 00:34:50.880 --> 00:34:54.079 There the toughest bracket, I think it's someone who kind 708 00:34:54.079 --> 00:34:56.519 of touched on with Sam Sarvo and Jonathan Jaffey. That's Clubs. 709 00:34:56.559 --> 00:34:58.559 You know, you agree again, Yeah, if you map some 710 00:34:58.639 --> 00:35:01.440 of these matchups out, you know you can have Kuhn 711 00:35:01.559 --> 00:35:05.119 versus Chino facing several versus Winter winner of that obviously 712 00:35:05.159 --> 00:35:07.599 taking out Brian Rass Rainley, and that's tough. You've got 713 00:35:07.639 --> 00:35:10.559 Mats Salisburg, Johnny Vibes, you know, you got Phil Lack 714 00:35:10.559 --> 00:35:14.280 in there, You've got Nacho Barbero. You know, this is 715 00:35:14.440 --> 00:35:17.360 the toughest bracket and un lucky for I don't think 716 00:35:17.519 --> 00:35:17.880 I don't. 717 00:35:18.159 --> 00:35:19.960 I'm not sure how many people out there will know 718 00:35:20.280 --> 00:35:22.320 Brazil God Luis rhythms prisonhole. 719 00:35:22.400 --> 00:35:24.519 But I mean he's not just going to roll over. 720 00:35:25.239 --> 00:35:26.440 He knows what he's doing. 721 00:35:26.599 --> 00:35:29.199 You may classify him more as like a VIP than 722 00:35:29.239 --> 00:35:33.039 a professional poker player, but I mean he's played enough, 723 00:35:33.199 --> 00:35:34.960 cash game, has been on TV enough, all that sort 724 00:35:34.960 --> 00:35:36.760 of stuff that he's doing. 725 00:35:36.760 --> 00:35:39.199 He's played a lot of a lot of cash games 726 00:35:39.239 --> 00:35:41.920 on TV and to say the soft spot. So you 727 00:35:41.960 --> 00:35:45.880 know in this in this jord Nick right, guys Battlefield 728 00:35:45.880 --> 00:35:48.039 Helm with her in High Stake. Seel played a bunch 729 00:35:48.079 --> 00:35:50.320 of World Series events. He's played on Poker Off the Dark. 730 00:35:50.719 --> 00:35:53.360 He loves poker. He's commentated on the World Series of 731 00:35:53.400 --> 00:35:57.400 Poker main event. He's not you know, whether you think 732 00:35:57.480 --> 00:36:01.119 he's a VIP or a fish. He's got poka chops. 733 00:36:01.480 --> 00:36:03.519 You know, I saw like even the so called soft 734 00:36:03.559 --> 00:36:06.559 spot is not soft in this in this uh side 735 00:36:06.599 --> 00:36:07.360 of the bracket at all. 736 00:36:07.880 --> 00:36:10.440 Yeah, you got Matt Solsberg versus Johnny Vibes. I saw 737 00:36:10.480 --> 00:36:13.079 Johnny Vibes put on social media that he got he 738 00:36:13.159 --> 00:36:16.599 got some heads of coaching from somebody heading into this one. 739 00:36:16.639 --> 00:36:20.199 I've uhev Is that his name? 740 00:36:21.440 --> 00:36:24.119 Yeah, you know exactly who he is. He's played PGT events. 741 00:36:24.159 --> 00:36:27.320 What's Madanziev. 742 00:36:29.159 --> 00:36:31.599 The World Champ, the World Champ, the World the World. 743 00:36:31.559 --> 00:36:34.599 The World stoy On Madanziev Madanjiev. 744 00:36:34.920 --> 00:36:36.519 That's not a way you say it. 745 00:36:36.679 --> 00:36:38.440 I'm one hundred percent butchering it. But I did have 746 00:36:38.440 --> 00:36:40.840 to commentate on tables and I'm pretty sure it's like 747 00:36:40.880 --> 00:36:44.480 madonjev or something something like that. But you know, I apologize, 748 00:36:44.880 --> 00:36:47.400 but I think he put out there that like, hey, 749 00:36:47.920 --> 00:36:49.719 you know, if anyone needs it, I've done this, this 750 00:36:49.760 --> 00:36:51.000 and this, and it comes to heads up. And I 751 00:36:51.039 --> 00:36:54.000 think Johnny Vibes linked up with him to get some coaching, 752 00:36:54.199 --> 00:36:55.880 not that this isn't is an event you should be 753 00:36:55.920 --> 00:36:58.559 getting coaching for, mister Johnny vibe Like, what do you 754 00:36:59.039 --> 00:37:03.960 I don't know. I feel like that's what twenty I 755 00:37:04.000 --> 00:37:06.599 just feel like that's one of those read the room 756 00:37:06.639 --> 00:37:07.320 type of things. 757 00:37:07.880 --> 00:37:10.679 No, Like, I like, because take the edge when you can. 758 00:37:11.000 --> 00:37:13.480 Here's why I would not want. 759 00:37:13.519 --> 00:37:18.199 A celebrity or a VIP to get word that the 760 00:37:18.239 --> 00:37:20.039 pros pros. 761 00:37:20.079 --> 00:37:21.519 I mean, I know Johnny Vibes is like. 762 00:37:22.079 --> 00:37:23.719 He's I think he's I think he's a pro, but 763 00:37:23.760 --> 00:37:25.920 he's like he's also like a content creator. You know, 764 00:37:25.960 --> 00:37:29.719 he's an entrepreneur, et cetera. He's probably like, what seventy 765 00:37:29.719 --> 00:37:32.559 percent poker pro, eighty percent poker pro. You know, I'm 766 00:37:32.559 --> 00:37:35.719 just saying it's not one hundred zero. But anyway, are 767 00:37:35.760 --> 00:37:39.440 getting coaching like this and making it harder for you 768 00:37:40.679 --> 00:37:44.199 when you're already likely at a disadvantage anyway, you know, 769 00:37:44.239 --> 00:37:45.719 you know what I mean, Like I think these. 770 00:37:45.599 --> 00:37:48.320 Guys are accepting the state or putting the money out. 771 00:37:48.400 --> 00:37:48.760 I don't know. 772 00:37:49.239 --> 00:37:51.480 I don't know. I'm just saying. I'm just saying, like I. 773 00:37:51.400 --> 00:37:55.719 Don't Does that mean like the they can't get coaching themselves? 774 00:37:56.079 --> 00:37:58.039 No, you can, but like you don't always have that 775 00:37:58.119 --> 00:38:01.079 same sort of access to those people because you're not 776 00:38:01.119 --> 00:38:04.039 in the space, Like it's just not as easy, right, 777 00:38:04.760 --> 00:38:07.760 Like I don't think Kevin Pollock is grinding his social 778 00:38:07.840 --> 00:38:10.639 media accounts and he sees story on post post this 779 00:38:10.960 --> 00:38:12.639 and then he hits him up with the DM Like 780 00:38:12.719 --> 00:38:16.360 I just don't think that's happening, you know. But maybe maybe, 781 00:38:16.360 --> 00:38:18.880 like I'm just using Kevin Pollack as an example, Like 782 00:38:19.119 --> 00:38:21.960 maybe he is like, well, these guys are doing everything, 783 00:38:22.440 --> 00:38:24.840 Like you know, I don't know. I feel like I 784 00:38:24.840 --> 00:38:28.639 feel like the pros are already good enough, but they don't. 785 00:38:28.400 --> 00:38:30.400 Need the extra You got to take every EV spot. 786 00:38:30.559 --> 00:38:33.719 No, not not in this ws P twenty five K 787 00:38:33.800 --> 00:38:35.440 heads up, take all the F and EV you. 788 00:38:35.400 --> 00:38:38.599 Want, okay, Like in this are the same event made 789 00:38:38.599 --> 00:38:41.039 for TV. I think all the pro I think all 790 00:38:41.079 --> 00:38:43.840 the blind the first hand that's what I think. 791 00:38:43.880 --> 00:38:45.519 That's just I'm joking. 792 00:38:45.559 --> 00:38:49.280 Of course, I would have you know what, in a 793 00:38:49.320 --> 00:38:52.000 perfect world, maybe you want agree with me. Perfect world 794 00:38:52.000 --> 00:38:57.119 in this we say, you know, the red side, all pros, 795 00:38:58.119 --> 00:38:59.960 black side of the bracket, the space and the club, 796 00:39:00.320 --> 00:39:05.119 all vipas, all celebrities, all satellite entrants, so that when 797 00:39:05.159 --> 00:39:07.360 we get into the final, we get one on one. 798 00:39:07.679 --> 00:39:10.719 Okay, So here's here's something. Here's something I thought about 799 00:39:10.760 --> 00:39:13.480 because I know there was a lot of obviously, the 800 00:39:13.719 --> 00:39:15.960 the list gets out there, when the brackets get out there, 801 00:39:16.039 --> 00:39:18.320 you know, the matchups, and everyone's commenting, like you know, 802 00:39:19.159 --> 00:39:21.880 there's there's one part of you know, the community that's like, 803 00:39:21.920 --> 00:39:23.039 how come I wasn't invited? 804 00:39:23.119 --> 00:39:23.320 Yeah? 805 00:39:23.360 --> 00:39:25.360 Right, there's the other part of the community was like 806 00:39:25.440 --> 00:39:27.519 where's this person, where's this person, where's this person? Where's 807 00:39:27.519 --> 00:39:29.039 that person? How did this person get? Like all this 808 00:39:29.079 --> 00:39:32.639 sort of stuff, right, you know. So anyway, one thing 809 00:39:32.679 --> 00:39:35.559 that I was thinking of, are there do you think 810 00:39:35.599 --> 00:39:39.920 that there are sixteen non professionals that's all because like 811 00:39:39.960 --> 00:39:42.360 it's celebrity, it's a VIP's or whatever, like so non 812 00:39:42.400 --> 00:39:44.400 professional book per do you think there are sixteen in 813 00:39:44.440 --> 00:39:49.400 this field? Like I'm talking like the Jason Calacanis, Richard Seymour. 814 00:39:49.400 --> 00:39:52.519 I mean, let's just go through Richard Seymour. What's what's Jasper? 815 00:39:52.559 --> 00:39:55.840 I mean he plays enough, he plays Stalen Flashner. We 816 00:39:55.880 --> 00:39:58.960 go Calacanis and Simo to not flash place. But he's 817 00:39:58.960 --> 00:40:00.840 a Hollywood, he's a We're produced. 818 00:40:01.559 --> 00:40:04.800 Okay, Rob Riggle, Paul Boston rock five five? 819 00:40:05.639 --> 00:40:06.639 What about this next one? 820 00:40:06.840 --> 00:40:09.800 Just Nick Riot? Nick, you could Matt Bracket is so 821 00:40:09.960 --> 00:40:13.760 hard you could maybe count Ryan Feldman, but I don't 822 00:40:13.760 --> 00:40:15.559 know if you can't. Okay, So we're stay six there, 823 00:40:16.719 --> 00:40:19.679 Bryce Hall, you have any where? Do we think of 824 00:40:19.679 --> 00:40:22.960 any one? Now? I would count him as like I would. 825 00:40:23.400 --> 00:40:25.360 We'll count this exercise. T J. 826 00:40:25.519 --> 00:40:29.360 Lavin for sure, Philip Franklinlee Chef, Philip Frankly, Lily for sure. 827 00:40:30.440 --> 00:40:35.440 That's it there. Kevin Pollack, yes, probably Charlie Hook like that. 828 00:40:35.519 --> 00:40:38.639 He's another fringe on. I would probably just putting him in. 829 00:40:39.559 --> 00:40:42.440 So we're at like what eleven. Here's here's what I'm saying, 830 00:40:43.000 --> 00:40:47.239 because I feel like there was enough, There's enough people 831 00:40:47.280 --> 00:40:52.079 out there that voiced wanting to potentially play, and I'm 832 00:40:52.079 --> 00:40:54.159 not just going to give into the mob but for 833 00:40:54.239 --> 00:40:58.880 this exercise, what if you did you took the sixteen 834 00:40:59.440 --> 00:41:02.599 non profess and you just put them aside, all sixteen 835 00:41:02.639 --> 00:41:05.400 of them, and then you start. You had a field 836 00:41:05.440 --> 00:41:08.320 of sixty four of all pros and they played down 837 00:41:08.400 --> 00:41:12.559 to sixteen, and then you combine, so you're essentially you're 838 00:41:12.639 --> 00:41:15.880 essentially getting an eighty player field, which allows you to 839 00:41:15.880 --> 00:41:17.880 get more people that think they might have gotten in 840 00:41:18.000 --> 00:41:21.280 or that the fans wanted in, right, but then the 841 00:41:21.519 --> 00:41:24.360 the VIPs and whatever basically get fast tracked. 842 00:41:24.440 --> 00:41:25.239 But they're in the money. 843 00:41:25.719 --> 00:41:27.360 No, it's not in the money because you're still thirty 844 00:41:27.360 --> 00:41:29.199 two players to win one. I think I think it 845 00:41:29.280 --> 00:41:32.159 might be win one match. Yeah, but they're who cares? 846 00:41:32.559 --> 00:41:34.000 We could do this made for TV. Know, we can 847 00:41:34.039 --> 00:41:35.920 do whatever we want. We can put them in the 848 00:41:35.960 --> 00:41:36.800 money if we want to. 849 00:41:37.000 --> 00:41:39.760 I don't hate your idea at all, but I think 850 00:41:39.760 --> 00:41:41.880 i'd still prefer them being on one side of the break. 851 00:41:41.920 --> 00:41:45.440 I also want to say quickly that this idea, along 852 00:41:45.480 --> 00:41:47.840 with the idea that I was talking about last time 853 00:41:47.880 --> 00:41:50.159 with like the time extensions and whatever, you know what 854 00:41:50.239 --> 00:41:52.480 you know, I got this sort of exercise from listening 855 00:41:52.519 --> 00:41:54.920 to the Bill Simmons podcast and the half baked ideas 856 00:41:55.480 --> 00:41:57.719 that he's like, this is not a fully baked idea. 857 00:41:57.719 --> 00:42:00.000 This is not something that I like, I'm like, yeah, 858 00:42:00.000 --> 00:42:01.880 we should a hundred percent do this. It's just something 859 00:42:01.920 --> 00:42:03.760 that I thought about. And now I'm having the thought 860 00:42:03.800 --> 00:42:06.960 exercise with you. Like, so I'm just saying, like that 861 00:42:07.559 --> 00:42:09.079 that's a way that we can make the field bigger, 862 00:42:09.079 --> 00:42:11.239 because you can't really go You and I both know 863 00:42:11.280 --> 00:42:13.159 we can't go from sixty four to one to twenty eight, 864 00:42:13.239 --> 00:42:15.679 even if we think that we could get one hundred 865 00:42:15.679 --> 00:42:17.920 and twenty eight with how many people voice all their stuff, like, 866 00:42:18.119 --> 00:42:20.599 that's just it. It's like an extra two days of play, 867 00:42:21.000 --> 00:42:23.920 Like it's just it's so ridiculous. Everything is so expensive. 868 00:42:24.159 --> 00:42:27.920 Can you really say, hey, Kevin Pollock, come take five 869 00:42:28.000 --> 00:42:29.760 days off your life, Like it's hard enough to get 870 00:42:29.760 --> 00:42:32.199 these guys take two or three days off their lives, right. 871 00:42:32.360 --> 00:42:34.719 I think that you know, you can have your pros 872 00:42:34.840 --> 00:42:36.440 that you really want to. You know, there's certain people 873 00:42:36.519 --> 00:42:39.119 we definitely wanted to play this event, you know, like 874 00:42:39.159 --> 00:42:41.639 you talk about the Negronos, the Helmless, the Ivis. You know, 875 00:42:41.679 --> 00:42:44.480 we definitely want some of these vfps. And then you know, 876 00:42:44.519 --> 00:42:47.119 there's gonna be whatever we'll call it, say, sixteen spots 877 00:42:47.159 --> 00:42:49.559 that are like very pro heavy. I think there's a 878 00:42:49.599 --> 00:42:52.519 world where you could do that could be a plan. 879 00:42:53.159 --> 00:42:55.000 You could do a plane in an Aria or somewhere 880 00:42:55.039 --> 00:42:58.440 else where. You know, you're you know, all of these 881 00:42:58.480 --> 00:43:00.719 pros want to play. You know, I'm getting dms. You've 882 00:43:00.719 --> 00:43:03.239 got some Brandon Hankscott some you know why and I 883 00:43:03.320 --> 00:43:05.440 in and you know why couldn't I play here? Can 884 00:43:05.440 --> 00:43:07.840 I get on the list? You know, get them to 885 00:43:08.079 --> 00:43:10.559 you know, you want to play play down, you know, 886 00:43:10.639 --> 00:43:13.760 play down to the to you know, from whatever it is, 887 00:43:13.800 --> 00:43:16.079 thirty two to eight or thirty two to sixteen and 888 00:43:16.159 --> 00:43:18.239 qualify to getting this eventy if you. 889 00:43:18.159 --> 00:43:21.800 Want me along those lines. So two things. One they 890 00:43:21.880 --> 00:43:23.559 used to do. They used to do a satellite to 891 00:43:23.599 --> 00:43:26.679 this tournament. We definitely because that's how Justin Young got 892 00:43:26.679 --> 00:43:29.199 an invite this year. Somebody dropped out later I can't 893 00:43:29.239 --> 00:43:30.719 remember who, but Justin Young got the call. 894 00:43:30.760 --> 00:43:31.119 He was in. 895 00:43:31.920 --> 00:43:34.960 But he talked about on the Table one podcast a 896 00:43:34.960 --> 00:43:37.440 few episodes ago. By the way, Table one podcast is 897 00:43:37.599 --> 00:43:39.480 I listened to that freaking thing religiously. 898 00:43:39.519 --> 00:43:40.079 It is great. 899 00:43:40.960 --> 00:43:43.519 I'm about seventy percent of the way through the last 900 00:43:43.519 --> 00:43:46.719 one with your boy Adam Hendricks. Justin Young when he 901 00:43:46.760 --> 00:43:49.400 first played it, he won a satellite, he got heads 902 00:43:49.440 --> 00:43:51.119 up with the guy. The guy didn't want it, so 903 00:43:51.280 --> 00:43:53.360 Justin basically bought the seat from the guy for cheaper. 904 00:43:53.480 --> 00:43:54.000 So whatever. 905 00:43:54.440 --> 00:43:56.760 Another thing that that makes me think of this Remember 906 00:43:56.800 --> 00:43:59.079 the Epic Poker League. Yeah, they used to have like 907 00:43:59.159 --> 00:44:04.320 that pro am right before, but like the winner of 908 00:44:04.320 --> 00:44:06.840 the pro am also got into the big one, which 909 00:44:06.880 --> 00:44:08.519 was like a closed event. Like you had to like 910 00:44:08.599 --> 00:44:10.639 have these certain credentials and stuff like that. You had 911 00:44:10.639 --> 00:44:13.280 to basically be like a certain type of player enough 912 00:44:13.320 --> 00:44:16.119 earnings whatever to have the right to buy in, right, 913 00:44:16.599 --> 00:44:18.599 but if you won the pro am as well, you 914 00:44:18.840 --> 00:44:20.719 like got in. So like what if there was just 915 00:44:20.719 --> 00:44:22.920 like generally like a satellite or like you said, like 916 00:44:23.039 --> 00:44:25.840 a smaller bracket or whatever it is, and then that 917 00:44:25.920 --> 00:44:28.599 person wins in. You know, like I think that would 918 00:44:28.639 --> 00:44:31.079 be cool where you know, yeah, if people out there, 919 00:44:31.400 --> 00:44:33.199 the pros that think they got snubbed, if they want 920 00:44:33.239 --> 00:44:35.440 to come play the satellite, great, but also people like 921 00:44:35.519 --> 00:44:37.400 let's say you and I want a fire and try 922 00:44:37.440 --> 00:44:39.320 and get in. I think that that just creates a 923 00:44:39.400 --> 00:44:41.719 cool story. So like I would, I would almost reserve 924 00:44:41.800 --> 00:44:44.840 like one seat for like a qualifier and just be like, hey, 925 00:44:44.880 --> 00:44:47.440 you know, this is what's going to be done. So 926 00:44:47.440 --> 00:44:49.119 so yeah, I don't know. Again, just just kind of 927 00:44:49.199 --> 00:44:51.280 kicking ideas around because I was thinking like, how could 928 00:44:51.320 --> 00:44:53.199 you expand the field? You can't really go to one 929 00:44:53.280 --> 00:44:55.280 twenty eight for the reasons that we mentioned, but if 930 00:44:55.320 --> 00:44:57.840 you did what I said, where you have sixty four 931 00:44:58.440 --> 00:45:01.880 like pros and and then you have the sixteen VIPs 932 00:45:01.880 --> 00:45:04.599 that basically get fast tracked to the front, you know, 933 00:45:04.760 --> 00:45:07.320 that allows you to get up to eighty, which is nice, 934 00:45:07.400 --> 00:45:10.480 a nice bump there. But you know, I'm just throwing 935 00:45:10.559 --> 00:45:15.079 throwing ideas around. So but overall, again, I thought the 936 00:45:15.159 --> 00:45:17.880 draw party went super well. I'm happy with how things 937 00:45:17.920 --> 00:45:20.599 played out. I'm excited to see how it all comes together. 938 00:45:21.039 --> 00:45:23.800 I mean, I know Tim and I obviously we're privy 939 00:45:23.840 --> 00:45:26.000 to being here and we watched it all play out. 940 00:45:26.079 --> 00:45:29.079 But it's it's one thing to watch things in person. 941 00:45:29.159 --> 00:45:31.880 It's another thing to just hitting my mic all over 942 00:45:31.880 --> 00:45:34.480 the place. It's another thing to just sit at home 943 00:45:35.039 --> 00:45:38.239 on the couch and watch it on TV and watch 944 00:45:38.559 --> 00:45:41.360 the final product, right I mean the guys in the 945 00:45:41.360 --> 00:45:42.800 back of the production team, they're going to cook up 946 00:45:42.800 --> 00:45:43.559 their magic. 947 00:45:43.320 --> 00:45:44.920 I mean tell ten episodes. 948 00:45:45.159 --> 00:45:47.480 Yeah, I mean I can see it, you know, I 949 00:45:47.480 --> 00:45:49.119 mean there was I mean, we talked about some of 950 00:45:49.119 --> 00:45:53.000 these matchup. There's a lot of good stuff in here, right, so, 951 00:45:53.000 --> 00:45:56.000 so yeah, you know, I think, all in all, I 952 00:45:56.000 --> 00:45:58.440 think it was very cool. I thought the set was 953 00:45:58.480 --> 00:46:01.440 freaking incredible. You might saw some of it through some 954 00:46:01.519 --> 00:46:03.639 of the social media videos, the photos or whatever that 955 00:46:03.639 --> 00:46:06.280 that went out from the draw party and whatnot, but 956 00:46:06.559 --> 00:46:10.639 the entire studio was, you know, done over all these 957 00:46:10.639 --> 00:46:12.880 small tables. This this table right here, this is one 958 00:46:12.880 --> 00:46:14.639 of the tables that if you guys can see it 959 00:46:14.639 --> 00:46:16.559 in the video, this is one of the tables that 960 00:46:16.599 --> 00:46:18.719 Tim and I hijacked. You know, we talked to our 961 00:46:18.760 --> 00:46:19.840 guy Justin and we said, hey. 962 00:46:19.719 --> 00:46:20.960 It's gonna be a podcast. 963 00:46:21.400 --> 00:46:24.840 We're gonna we're gonna refelt it. Yes, everything We're gonna 964 00:46:24.880 --> 00:46:27.760 refelt in every uh every show. We're gonna play heads 965 00:46:27.800 --> 00:46:30.119 up for one hundred dollars and we're just gonna we're 966 00:46:30.119 --> 00:46:32.840 gonna be We're gonna just gonna keep We're gonna keep playing. No, 967 00:46:33.280 --> 00:46:35.719 just kidding, so yeah, so I'm excited to see how 968 00:46:35.719 --> 00:46:38.400 it all plays out. The show is supposed to be back, 969 00:46:38.480 --> 00:46:41.639 like meaning this isn't just a one off type of thing. 970 00:46:41.760 --> 00:46:41.960 Yeah. 971 00:46:42.519 --> 00:46:46.280 I think some people might point to the fact that 972 00:46:46.320 --> 00:46:50.000 we did that PGT Heads Up showdown, that China reim 973 00:46:50.000 --> 00:46:51.800 one a couple of years ago, and then we like 974 00:46:51.840 --> 00:46:55.480 never did it again. So you know, was that our 975 00:46:57.440 --> 00:47:00.360 you know, try at bringing this back. I mean maybe 976 00:47:00.400 --> 00:47:02.400 I don't. I don't know exactly know, but whatever, but 977 00:47:02.440 --> 00:47:03.559 that happened, it was a one time thing. 978 00:47:03.599 --> 00:47:03.840 Whatever. 979 00:47:03.880 --> 00:47:05.559 I mean, this is back. You know, we're supposed to 980 00:47:05.599 --> 00:47:08.480 do it for multiple years. I know you've already been 981 00:47:08.760 --> 00:47:11.800 thinking and kind of like soft planning for the next one. 982 00:47:11.880 --> 00:47:14.360 So so yeah, I'm excited to see how this one 983 00:47:14.360 --> 00:47:15.760 plays out. I'm excited to. 984 00:47:16.440 --> 00:47:18.199 You do have a good idea of bringing that PGT 985 00:47:18.239 --> 00:47:20.800 hands up. Maybe it's like, let's say we're doing this, 986 00:47:20.960 --> 00:47:23.960 you know, mach or Aprilnexia, you know, we bring the 987 00:47:24.000 --> 00:47:24.639 heads up. 988 00:47:25.440 --> 00:47:27.719 You know, my idea with the PGT Heads Up Tournament. 989 00:47:27.719 --> 00:47:31.039 But justly I think I think the PGT Heads Up 990 00:47:31.079 --> 00:47:34.519 Tournament should be this is another half baked idea, but 991 00:47:34.559 --> 00:47:37.239 this is probably more like three quarters big. You know 992 00:47:37.280 --> 00:47:39.440 you're ready, like you could take it out and eat it, 993 00:47:39.480 --> 00:47:40.559 but like and you wouldn't get sick. 994 00:47:40.599 --> 00:47:40.880 Got it? 995 00:47:42.280 --> 00:47:45.199 That this should be like basically the PGTS in season 996 00:47:45.239 --> 00:47:48.800 tournament where we have the PGT leader board that you know, 997 00:47:48.960 --> 00:47:53.559 so the top let's say thirty two get the right 998 00:47:53.599 --> 00:47:57.320 to play. So the top thirty two get invited and 999 00:47:57.360 --> 00:48:00.400 they can buy in. Now people might say, like why 1000 00:48:00.400 --> 00:48:02.840 would they buy in, And I'll say, because if you're 1001 00:48:02.840 --> 00:48:05.000 in the thirty two, the reason why you buy it, 1002 00:48:05.159 --> 00:48:06.840 like we could do a rake free for example, the 1003 00:48:06.840 --> 00:48:09.239 reason that you bought you get to buy in is 1004 00:48:09.639 --> 00:48:13.239 you get a chance at bonus points. I've already written 1005 00:48:13.280 --> 00:48:16.880 this and maybe and maybe this has been my idea 1006 00:48:16.960 --> 00:48:18.079 and you and I have talked about it for a 1007 00:48:18.159 --> 00:48:21.159 long time, and maybe you just get a couple bonus points, 1008 00:48:21.199 --> 00:48:23.880 like let's say twenty if you just buy in, so 1009 00:48:23.920 --> 00:48:25.760 like you just just buy in and play, you get 1010 00:48:25.760 --> 00:48:28.840 some bonus points and then we just literally it's seated 1011 00:48:29.039 --> 00:48:32.119 one place thirty two too exactly. I know because you 1012 00:48:32.159 --> 00:48:34.960 and I've brought this idea up to you before, and 1013 00:48:35.000 --> 00:48:36.920 you do it like at the halfway point of the 1014 00:48:36.960 --> 00:48:39.599 season and it's a bonus lause. 1015 00:48:39.880 --> 00:48:41.119 You got points for entering. 1016 00:48:41.440 --> 00:48:42.320 Yeah, exactly. 1017 00:48:42.440 --> 00:48:44.159 I mean, if you don't want your spot, everyone just 1018 00:48:44.199 --> 00:48:47.559 it just rolled down the PGT label. Yeah, thirty two, 1019 00:48:47.960 --> 00:48:50.719 thirty three comes in. Yeah, but you get guaranteed points 1020 00:48:50.719 --> 00:48:52.079 and like, you know kind of. 1021 00:48:52.000 --> 00:48:53.960 Thing, and maybe it maybe listen, if it's too hard 1022 00:48:54.000 --> 00:48:56.119 to get thirty two, you just roll with sixteen. Yeah, 1023 00:48:56.280 --> 00:48:59.159 and that's the like, and that incentivizes people like listen, 1024 00:48:59.199 --> 00:49:01.400 if I am in the top sixteen for the first 1025 00:49:01.400 --> 00:49:04.320 half of the season, I get to play in this event. 1026 00:49:05.039 --> 00:49:06.760 And then that's you know, maybe you could even do 1027 00:49:06.800 --> 00:49:10.239 it something where like somebody the winner of that tournament 1028 00:49:10.320 --> 00:49:12.800 just gets fast tracked to the championship, Like, you know, 1029 00:49:12.840 --> 00:49:14.880 we can play with it, but you know, that's what 1030 00:49:14.960 --> 00:49:17.400 I think we should do. So I also think and 1031 00:49:17.440 --> 00:49:19.079 I know I think I brought this up to you 1032 00:49:19.119 --> 00:49:21.280 while the National Heads of Poker Championship was happening the 1033 00:49:21.360 --> 00:49:24.719 other day. Is that I am baffled. And this is 1034 00:49:24.760 --> 00:49:28.840 also on us, Like from the time Mike Madisow won 1035 00:49:28.920 --> 00:49:31.599 it last till a couple of weeks ago when we 1036 00:49:31.639 --> 00:49:34.480 brought this back, how come no one tried to do this? 1037 00:49:34.920 --> 00:49:37.760 It's not that complicated to do a heads up poker 1038 00:49:37.760 --> 00:49:40.639 tournament made for TV. If you want to do thirty 1039 00:49:40.679 --> 00:49:43.159 two players, if you want to do sixty four, whatever 1040 00:49:43.239 --> 00:49:46.199 the heck, call it something different. Obviously you can't. We 1041 00:49:46.239 --> 00:49:49.159 had we acquired this brand, okay, like we acquired the 1042 00:49:49.239 --> 00:49:52.119 National Heads Up Poker Championship brand from NBC. We now 1043 00:49:52.159 --> 00:49:53.920 own the brand, We owned all the past content, all 1044 00:49:53.960 --> 00:49:56.239 the IP et cetera. But you didn't have to do that. 1045 00:49:56.760 --> 00:49:58.800 Like I think WPT could have done it, a w SUP, 1046 00:49:59.079 --> 00:50:01.480 like anyone could have done it, so one off person 1047 00:50:01.480 --> 00:50:03.480 could have just made it. I mean, like that was 1048 00:50:03.519 --> 00:50:08.079 such a big iconic show. It was so cool. Ratings 1049 00:50:08.079 --> 00:50:10.719 were great, Like like, so why can't I just bring 1050 00:50:10.800 --> 00:50:13.599 that back? I just but that also is on us, 1051 00:50:13.639 --> 00:50:15.440 Like why didn't we also bring it back? And maybe 1052 00:50:15.440 --> 00:50:17.880 that was the try with the PGG Heads Up Showdown 1053 00:50:18.119 --> 00:50:19.880 because even though it was called the PGT Heads Up 1054 00:50:19.880 --> 00:50:22.920 Showdown and technically wasn't a PGT event, which is very weird, 1055 00:50:23.360 --> 00:50:25.119 you know, but that's on us, and maybe we should 1056 00:50:25.119 --> 00:50:27.719 have done it right, But I just find it kind 1057 00:50:27.719 --> 00:50:30.199 of interesting that no one did it. It's like it's 1058 00:50:30.239 --> 00:50:32.880 almost like the National Head Up Poker Championship went away 1059 00:50:33.320 --> 00:50:36.199 when NBC no longer was doing it, and everyone kind 1060 00:50:36.199 --> 00:50:37.840 of thought, oh, that's sacred ground, we don't want to 1061 00:50:37.840 --> 00:50:41.599 touch it, when it probably would have been great. But anyway, 1062 00:50:41.960 --> 00:50:44.880 that's that. So National Head Up Poker Championship. You guys 1063 00:50:44.880 --> 00:50:48.119 can stay tuned to well this podcast, social media channels 1064 00:50:48.159 --> 00:50:50.920 whatever as things start coming out. When this is going 1065 00:50:50.960 --> 00:50:53.239 to air, which I believe it's supposed to be in 1066 00:50:53.280 --> 00:50:55.880 a couple of months, we'll put the word out. We'll 1067 00:50:55.920 --> 00:50:58.280 let you guys know, maybe we'll do some kind of 1068 00:50:58.320 --> 00:51:00.639 watch alongs or recap pop or whatever. 1069 00:51:00.760 --> 00:51:00.920 You know. 1070 00:51:01.079 --> 00:51:04.280 I'm excited to watch it through see how everything played 1071 00:51:04.280 --> 00:51:06.480 out on the screen. And I hope you guys are 1072 00:51:06.639 --> 00:51:07.559 as well. 1073 00:51:07.400 --> 00:51:10.199 And reminded new season every Monday. 1074 00:51:10.400 --> 00:51:14.320 Yeah, I'm I mean, it's great old content. It's it's 1075 00:51:14.519 --> 00:51:19.599 nostalgia just through and through Club WPT Gold. So they 1076 00:51:19.679 --> 00:51:23.360 rolled out this update recently, which this was a couple 1077 00:51:23.320 --> 00:51:25.679 of days ago. Is this still on? Like they have 1078 00:51:25.800 --> 00:51:28.400 not canceled this? Right, you're the one who plays on 1079 00:51:28.400 --> 00:51:29.320 Club WUT Gold. 1080 00:51:29.400 --> 00:51:32.360 I tell me this week and I cannot confront what 1081 00:51:32.440 --> 00:51:34.519 den I if I've used this function, you for sure 1082 00:51:34.599 --> 00:51:34.840 use it. 1083 00:51:34.920 --> 00:51:38.000 So basically what you can do is at the end 1084 00:51:38.039 --> 00:51:40.360 of a hand in a cash game, right or is 1085 00:51:40.400 --> 00:51:43.679 it also okay only cash games which I'm not even 1086 00:51:43.719 --> 00:51:46.679 sure if they're called cash games, ring game, ring game, 1087 00:51:47.000 --> 00:51:49.960 okay ring games. Because this is a sweepsteakes poker site. 1088 00:51:50.800 --> 00:51:54.880 You can pay some sort of money, which I'm assuming 1089 00:51:54.960 --> 00:51:57.760 is like some sort of big blinds in relation to 1090 00:51:57.800 --> 00:52:01.400 like the limits that you're playing small one and you 1091 00:52:01.440 --> 00:52:05.079 can reveal like the folded cards at the table, which 1092 00:52:05.960 --> 00:52:09.239 seems like the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen, very fishy. 1093 00:52:09.639 --> 00:52:12.119 I saw this news get dropped and I was like, 1094 00:52:12.960 --> 00:52:16.960 my first thought was like, is this I like triple 1095 00:52:17.039 --> 00:52:19.159 check to the account. I'm like, is this like one 1096 00:52:19.159 --> 00:52:21.480 of those like fake accounts that somebody's like, you know, 1097 00:52:21.559 --> 00:52:23.280 one of these people on social media that always have 1098 00:52:23.320 --> 00:52:25.280 fun with people and create memes and whatever, like, are 1099 00:52:25.280 --> 00:52:27.400 they just like making fun of this sort of stuff? 1100 00:52:27.639 --> 00:52:30.320 Like this seems like the most ridiculous update. I mean, 1101 00:52:30.360 --> 00:52:32.559 you have Doug Polk criticized it in a video. He's 1102 00:52:32.599 --> 00:52:34.880 an ambassador for them. You know, he's got he's got 1103 00:52:34.880 --> 00:52:37.119 code dug everywhere, like hey sign up for club to 1104 00:52:37.159 --> 00:52:40.320 WPT goal. But also this is ridiculous. You got Matt 1105 00:52:40.360 --> 00:52:43.079 Burkey saying that this is actually sick. You got Brian 1106 00:52:43.199 --> 00:52:45.360 Rass saying this is one of the worst ideas I've 1107 00:52:45.400 --> 00:52:49.000 ever heard in poker. Sean Deep in standard Sean Deep 1108 00:52:49.079 --> 00:52:52.880 just one sentence word Salad Fashion on social media said, 1109 00:52:53.039 --> 00:52:55.159 the fact that you haven't canceled this yet is just awful, 1110 00:52:55.159 --> 00:52:57.360 awful marketing. You were crushing it in long term, going 1111 00:52:57.400 --> 00:53:02.320 to kill your site. I mean, I don't I don't understand. 1112 00:53:01.840 --> 00:53:05.440 Why you would do this money gram. 1113 00:53:05.840 --> 00:53:08.800 See that's kind of like what like I don't want 1114 00:53:08.800 --> 00:53:10.639 to like get someone in trouble for something that they 1115 00:53:10.679 --> 00:53:13.639 haven't done yet. But this it feels like a money 1116 00:53:13.639 --> 00:53:16.599 grab in the sense that like I feel like when 1117 00:53:17.400 --> 00:53:20.239 all the stuff happened with online poker back in the day, 1118 00:53:21.280 --> 00:53:23.840 Like I don't know, maybe this is revisionist history, but 1119 00:53:23.880 --> 00:53:25.920 I feel like a lot of stuff was getting launched 1120 00:53:25.920 --> 00:53:28.239 on full to a poker to like start grabbing more money. 1121 00:53:28.400 --> 00:53:29.760 Like they had all these you could play the same 1122 00:53:29.760 --> 00:53:32.079 tournament like multiple times at the same time. Yeah, I know, 1123 00:53:32.159 --> 00:53:33.960 but like was that a money grab because they kind 1124 00:53:33.960 --> 00:53:36.159 of knew that the stuff was about to get shut 1125 00:53:36.199 --> 00:53:38.159 down and like there's a lot of stuff now where 1126 00:53:38.159 --> 00:53:40.840 sweepsake sites are like in the crosshairs of a lot 1127 00:53:40.880 --> 00:53:43.360 of you know, lawmakers and states and whatnot. So is 1128 00:53:43.400 --> 00:53:45.400 this like I don't know, it's just it's just it's 1129 00:53:45.440 --> 00:53:46.239 just very weird. 1130 00:53:46.480 --> 00:53:48.519 I think it's a little bit about it. It's like, hey, 1131 00:53:48.639 --> 00:53:50.159 you know, obviously we can make a bit of extra 1132 00:53:50.199 --> 00:53:52.639 money here. It's also maybe, you know, we don't know 1133 00:53:52.639 --> 00:53:55.679 who's running club WPT. They might think this isn't actually 1134 00:53:55.840 --> 00:53:59.320 a good idea, you know, and we don't know. Obviously 1135 00:53:59.320 --> 00:54:00.920 there's a lot of negga is out there. But when 1136 00:54:01.199 --> 00:54:03.920 Full Tilt launched the multi entry and the re entries, 1137 00:54:04.280 --> 00:54:07.760 or even when we extended late registration, right, everyone was like, 1138 00:54:07.800 --> 00:54:09.639 oh this is this is I don't know about this, 1139 00:54:09.719 --> 00:54:11.639 And now it becomes the norm, the big blan nanny, 1140 00:54:12.199 --> 00:54:14.119 you know, everyone goes, I don't know about this. Now 1141 00:54:14.119 --> 00:54:17.360 it's the norm. So obviously this one probably will lean 1142 00:54:17.400 --> 00:54:21.559 to not happening again. But you know, operators, hey, even 1143 00:54:21.639 --> 00:54:25.039 ask PGT We try things. We tried things different, some work, 1144 00:54:25.159 --> 00:54:28.760 some don't. Obviously this one is getting a lot of negativity, 1145 00:54:29.559 --> 00:54:30.639 so it's a bit of both. I think it's a 1146 00:54:30.679 --> 00:54:32.239 little bit of a hey let's grab some money. Hey 1147 00:54:32.320 --> 00:54:34.960 let's try something new, let's offer play or something. But 1148 00:54:35.039 --> 00:54:37.880 let's also think who does this benefit the most? I 1149 00:54:37.880 --> 00:54:45.400 think the pros? What no, benefits the fish the most? Sorry, no, no, 1150 00:54:45.880 --> 00:54:48.360 I'm a phrasing that run Who is going to use 1151 00:54:48.360 --> 00:54:50.840 it the most? The fish? Yeah, right, which is bad 1152 00:54:50.920 --> 00:54:54.800 long term? Yes, yeah, Now, but what is the benefits 1153 00:54:54.800 --> 00:54:58.760 the pros? No, because in a way then the fish 1154 00:54:58.800 --> 00:55:01.239 go or there's less fish. But the way I see 1155 00:55:01.239 --> 00:55:04.519 it is, well, the percentage of play is on club WT. Yes, 1156 00:55:04.960 --> 00:55:06.199 you're right. If it's. 1157 00:55:07.760 --> 00:55:09.920 It doesn't really benefit the pros. It actually it makes 1158 00:55:10.000 --> 00:55:15.079 it makes ultimately what this if you're like gonna say, 1159 00:55:15.119 --> 00:55:19.559 like what's worst case scenario? Basically all the bad players 1160 00:55:19.639 --> 00:55:23.039 are constantly clicking reveal, Right, so they're just pissing away 1161 00:55:23.039 --> 00:55:26.000 their bankroll every single time, and they're probably doing it, 1162 00:55:26.400 --> 00:55:29.239 and if they're bad players, at least the potential is 1163 00:55:29.360 --> 00:55:32.719 higher that they're they're clicking it, and then they're not 1164 00:55:32.719 --> 00:55:35.159 actually learning from what they see, so like they're just 1165 00:55:35.159 --> 00:55:37.360 like seeing, oh he had it's Jackie bluffw it, but 1166 00:55:37.400 --> 00:55:39.639 they're not actually yeah, they're not actually like thinking it 1167 00:55:39.719 --> 00:55:42.880 through fully, right, So their bankroll is just getting depleted. 1168 00:55:43.119 --> 00:55:46.239 So then where I misspoke is that in turn, the 1169 00:55:46.280 --> 00:55:48.880 bad players die out from the site because their bankroll 1170 00:55:48.880 --> 00:55:51.519 is getting depleted, and then it becomes harder for the pros. 1171 00:55:51.880 --> 00:55:52.079 Right. 1172 00:55:52.599 --> 00:55:56.280 So yeah, so I I had that wrong. But anyway, 1173 00:55:56.280 --> 00:55:59.960 but so overall, like for site health, like I don't, 1174 00:56:00.960 --> 00:56:02.400 I don't feel like that's good. 1175 00:56:02.639 --> 00:56:05.559 I think that well, the fact that the money goes 1176 00:56:05.559 --> 00:56:09.280 straight to that's probably the worst thing. Now, the money 1177 00:56:09.400 --> 00:56:11.800 was like if it was like a splash pop, you know, 1178 00:56:11.800 --> 00:56:13.400 that would probably be well, the money should go to 1179 00:56:13.440 --> 00:56:17.400 the player the hands. Yeah, yeah, so I don't. 1180 00:56:17.400 --> 00:56:19.239 I don't know if I don't know exactly, Like basically 1181 00:56:19.280 --> 00:56:22.320 the site should take like max ten and even that's 1182 00:56:22.320 --> 00:56:24.519 free money for them, yeah, you know, and that would 1183 00:56:24.519 --> 00:56:26.599 probably just add up over time or they do something 1184 00:56:26.639 --> 00:56:28.360 like you said, a splash pot or whatever. I just 1185 00:56:28.519 --> 00:56:30.679 I don't know. Part of me also is like you 1186 00:56:30.760 --> 00:56:33.760 have someone like Doug Polk who is an ambassador, right, 1187 00:56:33.800 --> 00:56:36.679 you have someone who's a Brad Owen who is an ambassador. 1188 00:56:36.719 --> 00:56:39.960 You have someone who's you know, I think Tony Dunst 1189 00:56:40.039 --> 00:56:43.320 is extremely well versed in the online poker scene, like 1190 00:56:43.320 --> 00:56:46.519 like you didn't ask these people because I'm pretty sure 1191 00:56:46.519 --> 00:56:47.960 they would have all said like what are you doing? 1192 00:56:48.519 --> 00:56:51.039 Like this is ridiculous, Like so you like, I don't 1193 00:56:51.079 --> 00:56:53.599 understand how this is a thing. 1194 00:56:53.840 --> 00:56:57.760 So yeah, I'll man, I have used it once. Of 1195 00:56:57.800 --> 00:57:00.719 course you have, because I have. Of course, I just 1196 00:57:00.719 --> 00:57:03.599 wanted to honestly say what it did? I how so 1197 00:57:03.639 --> 00:57:05.519 how long I was show on your screen? 1198 00:57:05.599 --> 00:57:05.800 Long? 1199 00:57:05.920 --> 00:57:07.119 It's so like can you eat? 1200 00:57:07.199 --> 00:57:09.679 So for example, you're you're playing with what two seconds 1201 00:57:09.719 --> 00:57:12.280 seven other people? Yeah, and you see all the hands, 1202 00:57:12.320 --> 00:57:14.039 so can you see them? Can you? Are you able 1203 00:57:14.079 --> 00:57:16.480 to be like like, okay, I got all seven? 1204 00:57:16.639 --> 00:57:20.400 I think I think you can. When you hit the 1205 00:57:20.440 --> 00:57:23.320 hand history button, you can see it. You can see 1206 00:57:23.320 --> 00:57:25.360 it there. Look god, I'll tell you the hand I had. 1207 00:57:25.400 --> 00:57:28.480 I have had like Queen ten on a Queen ten 1208 00:57:28.519 --> 00:57:32.000 export whatever, and I went like six six, and I 1209 00:57:32.039 --> 00:57:34.360 was like, I'm pretty sure this guy has like ices. 1210 00:57:34.639 --> 00:57:37.039 I bet bet followed or check followed the river. I 1211 00:57:37.079 --> 00:57:38.320 just was like, oh, I'm going to say it here. 1212 00:57:38.559 --> 00:57:40.480 So all I was doing was looking at his hand 1213 00:57:40.960 --> 00:57:42.800 and revealed and I actually didn't check the hand, and 1214 00:57:42.920 --> 00:57:44.760 so I actually don't know if it if it's the 1215 00:57:44.760 --> 00:57:46.360 hand history or if it just pops up because I 1216 00:57:46.360 --> 00:57:48.440 was only looking at one hand to just test the 1217 00:57:48.480 --> 00:57:49.000 feature out. 1218 00:57:49.079 --> 00:57:52.000 But now I know obviously the the the easy thing 1219 00:57:52.119 --> 00:57:53.639 for the site to say is like, well, this helps 1220 00:57:53.679 --> 00:57:54.480 prevent collusion. 1221 00:57:55.159 --> 00:57:58.159 I mean, okay, I was just saying it helps players 1222 00:57:58.159 --> 00:58:01.960 get better with but like if maybe if you just 1223 00:58:02.639 --> 00:58:06.239 have the correct security protocols in place, you should be 1224 00:58:06.320 --> 00:58:07.800 preventing collusion anyway. 1225 00:58:08.000 --> 00:58:11.239 Like it's you know, it shouldn't rely on like Tim Duck, 1226 00:58:11.320 --> 00:58:12.960 where is seeing some hand and be like, oh, that's 1227 00:58:13.000 --> 00:58:15.800 weird he folded top pair to this guy for you know, 1228 00:58:15.880 --> 00:58:17.199 one tenth part. That's very weird. 1229 00:58:17.280 --> 00:58:19.800 Can you check into this? So so yeah, so I 1230 00:58:19.800 --> 00:58:22.440 don't know. Yeah, I only shouldn't be out to see 1231 00:58:23.199 --> 00:58:25.320 like there should be scenarios where you you shouldn't really 1232 00:58:25.320 --> 00:58:26.880 be able to see all the cards, right, like I. 1233 00:58:26.800 --> 00:58:30.559 Mean is a game of incomplete information? I mean like, 1234 00:58:31.519 --> 00:58:34.320 so I think this is ultimately going to make this 1235 00:58:34.480 --> 00:58:37.199 site tougher in the long run if it sticks around 1236 00:58:37.239 --> 00:58:39.800 and the bad players are the ones that are using 1237 00:58:39.840 --> 00:58:41.480 it and you know, are using it a lot more, 1238 00:58:41.480 --> 00:58:43.079 and they're just going to deplete their bank goals a 1239 00:58:43.079 --> 00:58:46.440 bit faster, like I don't think pros are really ever 1240 00:58:46.519 --> 00:58:49.679 going to use this. I mean one because Club WPT 1241 00:58:49.760 --> 00:58:52.920 Gold just recently launched multi table too, right, so like 1242 00:58:54.079 --> 00:58:56.719 they're probably playing a million tables like whatever, there's onto 1243 00:58:56.719 --> 00:58:58.719 the next hand, like it's you know, so anyway, I 1244 00:58:58.760 --> 00:59:03.320 just think it's it's weird and off putting to me. 1245 00:59:03.840 --> 00:59:06.320 I feel like if this was available in tournaments, I've 1246 00:59:06.320 --> 00:59:08.760 been playing more tournaments on there, I feel like I 1247 00:59:08.840 --> 00:59:11.320 might use it then more okay, like how do you 1248 00:59:11.400 --> 00:59:13.000 determine the price? 1249 00:59:13.199 --> 00:59:18.000 But true, So I also thought it was interesting that 1250 00:59:18.159 --> 00:59:21.719 this happens, right, So it's like it's very much from 1251 00:59:21.719 --> 00:59:24.239 the community side. Looking at Club WPT Gold, it was 1252 00:59:24.360 --> 00:59:25.039 it was negative. 1253 00:59:25.440 --> 00:59:25.639 Right. 1254 00:59:26.079 --> 00:59:28.320 Then you have GG Poker who launches what they call 1255 00:59:28.400 --> 00:59:32.440 streamer Mode, which, at least from what I could tell 1256 00:59:32.440 --> 00:59:34.320 and the people that I talked to, is like, Okay, 1257 00:59:34.320 --> 00:59:36.880 this is very cool, this is a positive, this is innovative, 1258 00:59:37.000 --> 00:59:39.280 like look at this. So it's just funny to me 1259 00:59:39.360 --> 00:59:44.400 to juxtapose the two, you know, like biggest competitors and 1260 00:59:44.440 --> 00:59:47.239 they're doing like complete opposite things that are viewed completely 1261 00:59:47.239 --> 00:59:51.400 opposite from the community and what streamer mode is is 1262 00:59:52.239 --> 00:59:56.320 basically GG poker. From what they said and what I 1263 00:59:56.440 --> 00:59:59.280 gathered is that they look at the poker streaming landscape 1264 00:59:59.320 --> 01:00:01.760 not like poker. I like, what poker go does poker streaming, 1265 01:00:01.880 --> 01:00:06.559 like what Jason Summerville pioneered, right, So like on twitch 1266 01:00:06.719 --> 01:00:08.880 on YouTube, you know that sort of stuff, you know, 1267 01:00:08.960 --> 01:00:12.320 streaming yourself playing online and whatever. And they said, you 1268 01:00:12.360 --> 01:00:15.760 know what, it seems like it's kind of dying and 1269 01:00:15.920 --> 01:00:18.360 it's very hard for these people, these streamers out there 1270 01:00:18.400 --> 01:00:21.760 to make inadequate sort of living from it because it's 1271 01:00:21.760 --> 01:00:25.519 gotten harder to make money from twitch or whatever, right, 1272 01:00:25.639 --> 01:00:29.199 I mean, that's at least the thesis of this. So 1273 01:00:29.280 --> 01:00:33.559 what they're doing is they're offering perks to people that 1274 01:00:33.639 --> 01:00:36.880 want to stream, and the biggest perk is one hundred 1275 01:00:36.880 --> 01:00:40.639 percent rake back while you're streaming. Yeah, which is ridiculous. 1276 01:00:40.679 --> 01:00:43.280 I mean that sounds incredible. Now, you do have to 1277 01:00:43.360 --> 01:00:46.239 meet like some benchmarks in order to qualify, you do 1278 01:00:46.320 --> 01:00:49.000 have to get approved by Gigi Poker to be like 1279 01:00:49.039 --> 01:00:53.199 an authorized streamer or whatever. But the perks are one 1280 01:00:53.239 --> 01:00:56.119 hundred percent rake back while you're streaming, whole card and 1281 01:00:56.239 --> 01:01:00.960 balance hiding to protect against giving away info, a streamer 1282 01:01:01.000 --> 01:01:03.960 panel to help you manage multiple tables, and then a 1283 01:01:04.039 --> 01:01:09.159 visibility boost with streams showcased inside the gg poker client, 1284 01:01:09.880 --> 01:01:12.440 and then a special avatar border as well. So I'm 1285 01:01:12.440 --> 01:01:14.159 assuming you know, in the client it shows that like 1286 01:01:14.199 --> 01:01:18.760 someone so is streaming and whatever. Now to qualify, you 1287 01:01:18.800 --> 01:01:21.320 need to have three months of consistent streaming that can 1288 01:01:21.360 --> 01:01:23.719 be on twitch or YouTube, and you have to average 1289 01:01:23.920 --> 01:01:28.960 forty viewers, which doesn't seem that high, but there are 1290 01:01:29.000 --> 01:01:31.000 plenty of people who I've like checked in on twitch 1291 01:01:31.039 --> 01:01:33.960 and whatever and it's like sixteen eight. You know, it's 1292 01:01:34.000 --> 01:01:36.920 so it it. I think that this is good because 1293 01:01:37.559 --> 01:01:39.920 it makes basically the streamer work for it. Like you 1294 01:01:39.960 --> 01:01:41.719 can't just slap up a stream tomorrow I have two 1295 01:01:41.760 --> 01:01:43.840 viewers and get one hundred percent break back. You know, 1296 01:01:43.920 --> 01:01:46.519 this is like you have to reach this benchmark. So yeah, 1297 01:01:46.559 --> 01:01:48.320 then you have to apply, you have to get approved, 1298 01:01:48.320 --> 01:01:50.039 and you have to link all your accounts and all 1299 01:01:50.159 --> 01:01:52.639 that sort of stuff. If you do abuse the system, 1300 01:01:53.639 --> 01:01:56.800 you know, manipulating stats, don't having bots, whatever the heck, 1301 01:01:56.920 --> 01:01:59.920 you're going to lose access. So overall, you know, again, 1302 01:02:00.159 --> 01:02:04.679 I think that they looked at streaming viewership, and they 1303 01:02:04.679 --> 01:02:07.320 think it's been trending down, which I think I would 1304 01:02:07.320 --> 01:02:11.119 agree with, even just like anecdotally from me, Like I 1305 01:02:11.199 --> 01:02:13.480 used to watch more poker streams, I don't watch really 1306 01:02:13.480 --> 01:02:17.159 any at all other than maybe Lex Veeldhaus. So even 1307 01:02:17.280 --> 01:02:20.039 just that, like I'm just drawn to it less, which 1308 01:02:20.079 --> 01:02:22.440 tells me it's just less popular. I mean, maybe it's 1309 01:02:22.480 --> 01:02:25.079 just a me thing, but who knows. And then they're 1310 01:02:25.079 --> 01:02:27.280 hoping that this, you know, this combination of you know, 1311 01:02:27.400 --> 01:02:29.800 some financial upside with one hundred percent rake back, which 1312 01:02:29.840 --> 01:02:31.639 if you're playing a high volume that can add up 1313 01:02:32.039 --> 01:02:34.679 quite a bit, some better tech, some tools, all that 1314 01:02:34.719 --> 01:02:37.840 sort of stuff. You know, it's it's good for the streamers. 1315 01:02:37.920 --> 01:02:40.559 Right now, what does GG poker get out of this, Well, 1316 01:02:40.639 --> 01:02:43.440 if you're streaming from GG Poker's platform and they get 1317 01:02:43.440 --> 01:02:46.719 a whole bunch more people streaming and being successful with streaming, 1318 01:02:47.320 --> 01:02:51.960 that's marketing, that's brand awareness, that's promotion for GG poker. Yeah, 1319 01:02:52.000 --> 01:02:54.159 So that's what they're doing here, that's that's the play, 1320 01:02:54.639 --> 01:02:56.960 right So and it also, you know, I think it's 1321 01:02:56.960 --> 01:03:00.400 a good narrative thing. Again, like you have over here 1322 01:03:00.400 --> 01:03:02.960 you have Club WPT Gold doing this, which was negatively 1323 01:03:03.000 --> 01:03:05.280 viewed by the community over here, you got gg poker 1324 01:03:05.280 --> 01:03:08.199 doing this, which is like wow, this is great. And 1325 01:03:08.280 --> 01:03:11.760 also if you want to combine it, GG poker recently 1326 01:03:11.760 --> 01:03:14.920 bought the wsop were coming off a great wicopy. The 1327 01:03:15.199 --> 01:03:17.679 the app wsp plus was received super well. That was 1328 01:03:17.719 --> 01:03:20.719 obviously implemented by gg poker. Like everything is kind of 1329 01:03:20.719 --> 01:03:23.119 going like very positive for gg pokers. This is like 1330 01:03:23.159 --> 01:03:28.719 another thing that's just great. My question is, can one operator, 1331 01:03:29.119 --> 01:03:32.519 you know, even with you know, a fairly large financial 1332 01:03:32.559 --> 01:03:34.840 support in the fact that they're giving one hundred percent 1333 01:03:34.960 --> 01:03:38.199 rake back, which I mean you maybe they approve a 1334 01:03:38.239 --> 01:03:39.840 thousand people. I mean, that could add up to a 1335 01:03:39.840 --> 01:03:43.639 lot of money, right, can they actually turn poker streaming 1336 01:03:43.679 --> 01:03:45.760 like into a thing again? Can they make that growth 1337 01:03:45.800 --> 01:03:46.320 come back? 1338 01:03:47.280 --> 01:03:49.119 I think they can. It's just not gonna be over night. 1339 01:03:49.159 --> 01:03:50.719 It's gonna take a while, right, You're gonna have to 1340 01:03:50.719 --> 01:03:53.840 get slowly bring these people in, slowly approve them. It's 1341 01:03:53.960 --> 01:03:59.519 gonna slowly increase streaming traffic. That's going to increase the 1342 01:03:59.599 --> 01:04:02.760 GG poker traffic, and then it's going to slowly widen out, 1343 01:04:02.800 --> 01:04:06.000 widen out, widen now, So yes, they can. It's not 1344 01:04:06.039 --> 01:04:07.679 going to be instantaneous. 1345 01:04:08.360 --> 01:04:08.559 You know. 1346 01:04:09.440 --> 01:04:11.360 When this news came out, the first thing I did 1347 01:04:11.480 --> 01:04:13.760 was look to see if that also included WSP dot 1348 01:04:13.760 --> 01:04:16.079 com same. You know, I did the same. I was like, oh, 1349 01:04:16.159 --> 01:04:18.400 maybe sort stream. That's exactly what I thought, because I 1350 01:04:18.400 --> 01:04:20.599 was like, you know, like you know, they say forty 1351 01:04:20.719 --> 01:04:23.880 average viewers, and you know, if you're not streaming, like 1352 01:04:23.920 --> 01:04:25.199 you can touch it. If you're not on the streamer, 1353 01:04:25.559 --> 01:04:28.519 that's easy. But if you're gonna stream six hours, you know, 1354 01:04:28.519 --> 01:04:30.360 you've got to be entertaining. You got to have you 1355 01:04:30.480 --> 01:04:32.840 either got to be good at poker or entertaining hopefully 1356 01:04:32.880 --> 01:04:37.679 both have a good stream, have good quality. That's not easy, right, 1357 01:04:37.920 --> 01:04:41.440 it's not super tough either. But I think this is 1358 01:04:42.480 --> 01:04:44.719 a great step forward, you know, and it's a big 1359 01:04:44.760 --> 01:04:47.440 step forward to try and you know, fix something. And 1360 01:04:47.440 --> 01:04:51.000 if we're talking about gig you know in general, you know, 1361 01:04:51.199 --> 01:04:54.440 like you touched on WSP plus app great for the 1362 01:04:54.480 --> 01:04:57.000 live players here in Las Vegas, you know, when they 1363 01:04:57.000 --> 01:04:59.239 go to Europe, when they go to Paradise. Now we've 1364 01:04:59.280 --> 01:05:01.679 got this for for the guys that you know staying 1365 01:05:01.719 --> 01:05:04.880 in Europe or wherever they are playing online streaming trying 1366 01:05:04.880 --> 01:05:08.000 to get that Gigi Poker brand out there. They are 1367 01:05:08.000 --> 01:05:10.760 doing I don't want to say as much as they can, 1368 01:05:10.760 --> 01:05:13.519 but they're doing quite a lot to really do their 1369 01:05:13.559 --> 01:05:16.920 part to grow the game. And obviously, you know, what's 1370 01:05:16.920 --> 01:05:20.360 that saying about the rising tides. You know, a rising 1371 01:05:20.400 --> 01:05:22.440 tide lifts all boats. Yeah, I think you know, this 1372 01:05:22.599 --> 01:05:24.679 is kind of one part of it. Now. I've club 1373 01:05:24.840 --> 01:05:27.719 wpt IF Global Poker, if you know, we talk about 1374 01:05:27.760 --> 01:05:30.280 the streaming out that's like ask Poker, go Haskasina Live 1375 01:05:30.719 --> 01:05:32.840 can do all our parts and you know, the whole 1376 01:05:32.880 --> 01:05:36.679 poker industry could definitely grow and get bigger with you know, 1377 01:05:36.880 --> 01:05:39.039 positive initiatives like this one. Yeah. 1378 01:05:39.159 --> 01:05:40.360 No, I agree with you. 1379 01:05:41.239 --> 01:05:41.719 Ultimately. 1380 01:05:41.960 --> 01:05:46.079 I can't say whether I'm like too confident that it's 1381 01:05:46.159 --> 01:05:50.199 going to work. It might flop, but I do like 1382 01:05:50.280 --> 01:05:53.679 the thinking here. I think it is pretty innovative, and 1383 01:05:54.800 --> 01:05:57.199 I do want it to work because ultimately I think 1384 01:05:57.239 --> 01:05:59.800 that it'll be a good thing for poker, right, I think, 1385 01:05:59.840 --> 01:06:03.960 just more more poker out there, from content for people 1386 01:06:04.000 --> 01:06:06.400 to consume, get sucked into the game, all that sort 1387 01:06:06.400 --> 01:06:09.039 of stuff is just ultimately a good thing. So I'm 1388 01:06:09.159 --> 01:06:12.320 definitely for this. So we'll see if it works while 1389 01:06:12.320 --> 01:06:14.639 we'll obviously monitor it and uh you know, we'll check 1390 01:06:14.679 --> 01:06:16.400 on in on it from time to time, you know. 1391 01:06:16.480 --> 01:06:20.199 Should we need to quick break here while I tell 1392 01:06:20.199 --> 01:06:22.679 you that this podcast is also brought to you by 1393 01:06:22.800 --> 01:06:25.920 True Classic, our friends over at True Classic. 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Yeah, they 1413 01:07:34.039 --> 01:07:36.280 released a press release they said it's coming back April 1414 01:07:36.360 --> 01:07:38.800 twenty fourth through May tenth. What the heck do we know? 1415 01:07:38.920 --> 01:07:40.039 What is happening here? 1416 01:07:40.480 --> 01:07:40.559 Like? 1417 01:07:40.760 --> 01:07:42.599 Is it back as we know it? It's obviously a 1418 01:07:42.599 --> 01:07:47.199 different timeslot. So tell me, Tell I love Ozias. 1419 01:07:46.800 --> 01:07:48.599 Tell me I love Uzzie million. So I don't know 1420 01:07:48.719 --> 01:07:50.800 that much. I did have a meeting with them, uh, 1421 01:07:51.039 --> 01:07:53.920 you know, I wanted to just chat about poker in general. 1422 01:07:53.960 --> 01:07:57.239 It's obviously been quite a few years since they've been 1423 01:07:57.320 --> 01:07:58.119 around and the. 1424 01:07:58.039 --> 01:07:59.559 Poker when when was the last year? 1425 01:08:01.119 --> 01:08:05.480 Yeah, so the landscape has changed, so you know, they 1426 01:08:05.559 --> 01:08:07.480 I wanted to give them advice their questions for me. 1427 01:08:07.880 --> 01:08:09.639 Talked a little bit about streaming, talked a little bit 1428 01:08:09.639 --> 01:08:12.320 about this and that. Obviously moving to April, that's the 1429 01:08:12.320 --> 01:08:14.599 biggest that's the biggest change, right, that's the window where 1430 01:08:14.599 --> 01:08:17.560 the old Victorian Poker Championships used to be the Melbourne 1431 01:08:17.560 --> 01:08:18.880 Poker Championships prior to that. 1432 01:08:19.600 --> 01:08:21.159 But why I don't understand April. 1433 01:08:21.840 --> 01:08:26.079 Main reason is, you know, January okay, obviously January beautiful 1434 01:08:26.079 --> 01:08:28.439 time in Australia, great weather, You've got the Australian Poker Open, 1435 01:08:28.760 --> 01:08:32.159 the Australian Tennis Open, you've got the you got some cricket, 1436 01:08:32.920 --> 01:08:37.079 You're just great weather, right, But does Crown really need 1437 01:08:37.199 --> 01:08:40.319 to throw a poker tournament on you know, yes, they 1438 01:08:40.319 --> 01:08:42.479 have enough going on there, So I think they're just 1439 01:08:42.560 --> 01:08:44.479 moving in the window. They're moving it down into it 1440 01:08:44.600 --> 01:08:47.279 maybe like a less busy spot, so we're talking maybe 1441 01:08:47.439 --> 01:08:51.520 discounted rooms, cheaper rooms for people traveling. Obviously weather's not 1442 01:08:51.560 --> 01:08:54.520 as great, but hey, you can watch the Muzzi Rules football, 1443 01:08:54.600 --> 01:08:56.479 so that's that's good enough for me. So I think 1444 01:08:56.479 --> 01:09:00.439 that's the main reason with moving moving to that window, basically, 1445 01:09:00.520 --> 01:09:03.199 you know, having availability in the casino in general, when 1446 01:09:03.640 --> 01:09:06.239 everything else is so busy in that Christmas kind of period. 1447 01:09:06.840 --> 01:09:11.319 Schedule wise, it's still they've got like a rough template 1448 01:09:11.359 --> 01:09:13.680 of what they're doing. You know, they're still working stuff out, 1449 01:09:13.720 --> 01:09:16.720 it's still trying to figure things out. I believe it's 1450 01:09:16.760 --> 01:09:18.960 going to be you know, the ten k main event again, 1451 01:09:19.600 --> 01:09:21.520 and they understand that this year is not going to 1452 01:09:21.560 --> 01:09:24.079 be big. You know, they understand that, hey, we're coming back, 1453 01:09:24.800 --> 01:09:26.640 but this is the building block for the next year 1454 01:09:26.800 --> 01:09:28.960 and the next year and so forth, which makes a 1455 01:09:28.960 --> 01:09:31.319 lot of sense. The one thing that you know, when 1456 01:09:31.359 --> 01:09:33.920 I talk to them about is just and I'm hoping 1457 01:09:33.920 --> 01:09:36.079 obviously we don't have a massive audience, but if the 1458 01:09:36.399 --> 01:09:39.079 people listening at home pass it on, you know that 1459 01:09:39.119 --> 01:09:43.760 I think of going. The biggest thing that I want 1460 01:09:43.800 --> 01:09:46.399 to tell people is I think a lot of people 1461 01:09:46.439 --> 01:09:50.359 are under the wrong impression of the laws and regulations 1462 01:09:50.359 --> 01:09:53.119 in Australia when it comes to playing. You know, we 1463 01:09:53.159 --> 01:09:56.479 have heard things where you can only play twelve hours. 1464 01:09:56.560 --> 01:09:59.039 You know, you could only play two hour hours at 1465 01:09:59.039 --> 01:10:01.359 a time. Then you have to go to a break. Well, 1466 01:10:02.119 --> 01:10:05.039 you know, that makes it pretty not fun poker experience, 1467 01:10:05.079 --> 01:10:07.600 and I don't know how tournaments would ever work. But 1468 01:10:08.239 --> 01:10:10.960 they inform me that that is actually for cash games 1469 01:10:11.760 --> 01:10:14.560 and for table games, and it's a thirty I think 1470 01:10:14.640 --> 01:10:16.319 they said it was thirty six hours you have to 1471 01:10:16.319 --> 01:10:19.239 put you get a max in a week. So if 1472 01:10:19.279 --> 01:10:21.760 you're a one two no limit player, two five grinder, 1473 01:10:21.760 --> 01:10:23.239 you're thinking about traveling in the I was in millions 1474 01:10:23.239 --> 01:10:25.560 to play cash might not want to do that, you 1475 01:10:25.600 --> 01:10:28.399 have thirty six hours max. But if you're playing tournaments, 1476 01:10:28.439 --> 01:10:31.359 no difference, it's no different to what you experienced here 1477 01:10:31.399 --> 01:10:33.680 in Vegas. They're going to have their normal kind of 1478 01:10:33.720 --> 01:10:37.000 you know, you twelve to one am kind of tournament times. 1479 01:10:37.000 --> 01:10:39.399 So if you are a tournament player thinking about going, 1480 01:10:40.720 --> 01:10:43.560 it's normal. You know, those regulations don't really apply for you. 1481 01:10:44.159 --> 01:10:45.479 But if you play cash or you want to play 1482 01:10:45.520 --> 01:10:48.479 blackjack or back road or craps whatever that is, that's 1483 01:10:48.520 --> 01:10:52.439 where those kind of hour restrictions come in. But for tournaments, 1484 01:10:52.720 --> 01:10:56.359 completely fine, it's normal. You can go play every event 1485 01:10:57.239 --> 01:10:57.800 under the sun. 1486 01:10:58.600 --> 01:11:02.239 Just reading from a pokernews dot COM's article, Will Schilbeuer 1487 01:11:03.079 --> 01:11:06.000 wrote this. He mentioned that the twenty twenty six edition 1488 01:11:06.079 --> 01:11:12.439 will feature eighteen tournaments, estimated fourteen million AUSY prize school, 1489 01:11:12.479 --> 01:11:17.319 which is approximately nine million USD and then Bien's are 1490 01:11:17.319 --> 01:11:20.279 going to rage fifteen hundred OZZY to twenty five thousand. 1491 01:11:21.199 --> 01:11:24.760 They're going to have the ten thousand, six hundred AUZZY 1492 01:11:24.840 --> 01:11:27.640 main event, as you mentioned, which is about seven thousand 1493 01:11:27.640 --> 01:11:31.760 dollars for US at least right now. So yeah, so 1494 01:11:31.920 --> 01:11:34.640 we'll you know, we'll see how things play out. I 1495 01:11:34.760 --> 01:11:37.760 freaking love this tournament. I think it's absolutely incredible. I 1496 01:11:37.800 --> 01:11:40.079 love Australia. I would love to go back for this. 1497 01:11:40.920 --> 01:11:43.359 Take the pot on the road, Take the Pod on 1498 01:11:43.479 --> 01:11:46.760 the road. That would be incredible. If Crown will have us, 1499 01:11:46.960 --> 01:11:51.079 I will freaking be there. Okay, let's freaking go. But yeah, 1500 01:11:51.119 --> 01:11:54.560 I mean, this tournament is it's always been incredible, you 1501 01:11:54.640 --> 01:11:58.079 obviously know, and it's it's it's a lot of fun. 1502 01:11:58.159 --> 01:12:00.079 So I felt like, in a lot of ways is 1503 01:12:00.119 --> 01:12:01.720 when it went away, you know, we lost one of 1504 01:12:01.760 --> 01:12:04.840 our majors. Crown Ozzie Million's main event was like always 1505 01:12:04.840 --> 01:12:07.079 one of the big four or five tournaments in the world. 1506 01:12:07.640 --> 01:12:11.760 Hopefully it comes back, and also you know, hopefully that 1507 01:12:11.720 --> 01:12:14.079 they do it right. Yeah, you know, like I you know, 1508 01:12:14.199 --> 01:12:16.279 so I think they should listen to you. Just do 1509 01:12:16.359 --> 01:12:19.560 whatever you say, basically, That's. 1510 01:12:19.399 --> 01:12:21.960 What I think. I mean. Yeah, look, I think people 1511 01:12:21.960 --> 01:12:24.399 have to understand that this is Yeah, they're dipping their 1512 01:12:24.399 --> 01:12:26.720 foot back in the water. It's it's not going to 1513 01:12:26.800 --> 01:12:29.159 be thousands and thousands of plays in the main event. 1514 01:12:29.239 --> 01:12:31.560 But what was the biggest one they ever had? 1515 01:12:31.600 --> 01:12:35.720 Do we know, probably in this nine to seventy one. 1516 01:12:37.439 --> 01:12:41.840 No, never got over nine hundred, oh twenty nineteen. So 1517 01:12:41.880 --> 01:12:45.239 the second to last one, Yeah, they had eight twenty two. 1518 01:12:45.840 --> 01:12:48.479 Twenty eighteen was eight hundred, then it was eight twenty two, 1519 01:12:48.479 --> 01:12:49.439 then it was eight twenty. 1520 01:12:50.079 --> 01:12:52.760 I always thought one of my favorite frames out right, 1521 01:12:52.920 --> 01:12:53.640 it is a freezer. 1522 01:12:53.760 --> 01:12:53.960 Yeah. 1523 01:12:54.000 --> 01:12:54.439 One of my. 1524 01:12:54.359 --> 01:12:58.279 Favorite things to like write about and talk about was 1525 01:12:58.319 --> 01:13:02.520 how whatever the Aussie Millions did, the was main event 1526 01:13:02.560 --> 01:13:05.239 field size would mirror that for like the longest time. 1527 01:13:05.279 --> 01:13:08.560 It was like the weirdest thing ever. So you know, 1528 01:13:08.680 --> 01:13:11.039 because you guys copy us, Yeah, sure, but you know 1529 01:13:12.159 --> 01:13:13.560 that then they didn't have it for a while. 1530 01:13:13.600 --> 01:13:17.199 Yeah, I mean, what a freaking tournament. Yeah, I mean 1531 01:13:17.279 --> 01:13:19.239 I'm looking forward to saying what they put together, like 1532 01:13:19.319 --> 01:13:23.479 schedule wise, and you know, if you know, if we're involved, 1533 01:13:23.520 --> 01:13:26.119 who knows, we'll see what kind of happens. But you're 1534 01:13:26.119 --> 01:13:29.039 looking forward to it finally coming back, and obviously each 1535 01:13:29.119 --> 01:13:30.159 year is going to keep growing. 1536 01:13:30.239 --> 01:13:33.600 So yeah, let's go. Let's go Australia, baby, come on, baby. 1537 01:13:33.720 --> 01:13:35.920 I just as we were talking about it, I went 1538 01:13:35.960 --> 01:13:37.960 to the I went to Ozzie Millions dot com. It 1539 01:13:38.039 --> 01:13:41.800 rear directed me to the Crown website. Okay, then I 1540 01:13:41.840 --> 01:13:44.479 clicked about the Auzie Millions discover page. Then it said 1541 01:13:44.520 --> 01:13:47.079 join our poker community. I clicked that brings me to 1542 01:13:47.079 --> 01:13:51.680 a Facebook group and I just submitted to enter it. Okay, 1543 01:13:52.079 --> 01:13:54.600 I'm in, I'm fully back in. I'm fully in. 1544 01:13:54.680 --> 01:13:54.920 Baby. 1545 01:13:54.960 --> 01:13:59.199 Let's go. Give me all the freaking Lambington's. And what 1546 01:13:59.239 --> 01:14:01.560 do I drink for the car? Flat white? No, I 1547 01:14:01.600 --> 01:14:05.199 don't think short black? Yeah, give me that. Let's go, baby, 1548 01:14:05.239 --> 01:14:07.439 come on, I'm ready to go. And that sweet money, 1549 01:14:07.560 --> 01:14:12.560 that's sweet, sweet money. It's incredible. Let's go to Cyprus. 1550 01:14:12.800 --> 01:14:15.640 ONYX Super high Roller Series a couple events that we 1551 01:14:15.640 --> 01:14:17.600 want to talk about here. I think this series overall 1552 01:14:17.640 --> 01:14:21.560 is still going. But they had a ten k buy 1553 01:14:21.600 --> 01:14:24.800 in what is called the gig Millions. 1554 01:14:25.319 --> 01:14:27.720 I think it's just called the GG millions. 1555 01:14:27.840 --> 01:14:31.199 Five million dollar Guaranteed Prize pill one million dollar first 1556 01:14:31.239 --> 01:14:35.479 place prize. Uh Moosa Ahmad from Lebanon wins it all 1557 01:14:35.560 --> 01:14:38.399 for a million dollars, topping a field of five hundred 1558 01:14:38.399 --> 01:14:41.720 and ten entries. Jamil Wakeel out of Canada. I'm believe 1559 01:14:41.720 --> 01:14:44.680 he made the final table of VPT money. Carlo also 1560 01:14:44.920 --> 01:14:50.079 one with the mys click mis click, slow rolled angle, whatever, 1561 01:14:50.119 --> 01:14:50.840 the heck you want to call it. 1562 01:14:50.880 --> 01:14:51.600 Yeah, it was that one. 1563 01:14:51.920 --> 01:14:52.039 Uh. 1564 01:14:52.079 --> 01:14:56.159 He finished his second for six hundred and fifty k, big, 1565 01:14:56.199 --> 01:14:58.319 big tournament here. And then I also want to hit 1566 01:14:58.359 --> 01:15:00.960 on the fact that Jesse Lonis won the one hundred 1567 01:15:00.960 --> 01:15:04.279 and two thousand dollars ONYX Super high Roller Series Invitational. 1568 01:15:04.319 --> 01:15:08.600 He was paired with Johann Gilbert Yo Viral, and I 1569 01:15:08.640 --> 01:15:10.920 think I saw yo Viral say on social media that 1570 01:15:11.000 --> 01:15:14.439 he backed Jesse in this tournament for fifty percent of 1571 01:15:14.439 --> 01:15:17.560 his action. So Lonis won this the minuted deal heads 1572 01:15:17.640 --> 01:15:20.760 up for one point seventy five million, so I think 1573 01:15:20.880 --> 01:15:22.800 half of it went to Johann, half of it goes 1574 01:15:22.840 --> 01:15:26.399 to Jesse. I guess I just wanted to touch on 1575 01:15:26.520 --> 01:15:28.760 those two winners as a jumping off point. I mean, 1576 01:15:28.800 --> 01:15:33.479 this series looks like it's the new kid on the block. Well, 1577 01:15:33.560 --> 01:15:39.560 the fields look big, Yeah, they look juicy. They're getting 1578 01:15:39.560 --> 01:15:41.359 a lot of big names there. You know, we've seen 1579 01:15:41.359 --> 01:15:43.520 a lot of the big finish guys are over there 1580 01:15:43.560 --> 01:15:45.520 now for some of the polo stuff that's happening. I 1581 01:15:45.640 --> 01:15:49.159 just mentioned Jesse Lonis. I know Nick Shulman is over there, 1582 01:15:49.359 --> 01:15:53.960 Eric Wasserson, Phil Ivy is in the mix. So yeah, 1583 01:15:54.000 --> 01:15:57.560 I mean I've they have by ins, like they have 1584 01:15:57.640 --> 01:16:00.079 that ten k, they have a fifty k, they have 1585 01:16:00.079 --> 01:16:02.199 one hundred k's like they got all this sort of stuff. 1586 01:16:02.199 --> 01:16:02.720 I mean, I don't know. 1587 01:16:02.760 --> 01:16:05.560 I feel like this is like this series like just 1588 01:16:05.560 --> 01:16:08.479 has arrived. They're kind of out of nowhere, and it's 1589 01:16:08.520 --> 01:16:11.279 been good. It's been fun to watch it. It's been 1590 01:16:11.319 --> 01:16:13.920 fun to follow it. And yeah, I think it's on 1591 01:16:14.000 --> 01:16:14.319 the map. 1592 01:16:15.039 --> 01:16:18.479 Well it was around last year. It was our series, 1593 01:16:20.199 --> 01:16:24.079 so it's it's that same window. It's this very similar events. 1594 01:16:24.079 --> 01:16:26.760 But yes, it's it's more on Expace. It's more it's 1595 01:16:26.800 --> 01:16:30.560 more linked with you know, with Trenton and GG. But yeah, 1596 01:16:30.640 --> 01:16:36.640 it's you know, first of all, Cyprus, beautiful hotel, beautiful beach, 1597 01:16:36.680 --> 01:16:40.199 beautiful pools. There a great venue to go to, great 1598 01:16:40.199 --> 01:16:43.439 service everything, So I can understand why people are you know, 1599 01:16:43.600 --> 01:16:47.359 heading there to go play this event. One thing, one event, 1600 01:16:47.399 --> 01:16:48.640 you can't you know, there's a lot of events. In 1601 01:16:48.680 --> 01:16:50.640 one event. There was one hundred k PLO that wrapped 1602 01:16:50.720 --> 01:16:53.279 up two of our kind of PLO regulars, the Tara 1603 01:16:53.319 --> 01:16:58.039 Guerrero third place Smallly. They made a three way deal 1604 01:16:58.600 --> 01:17:02.359 Sam Sibila yeah, what did I say? Similarly, yeah, Ben 1605 01:17:02.439 --> 01:17:05.279 Lamb was at that final table, as were the final table. 1606 01:17:06.399 --> 01:17:08.359 Trying to think who else Martin Dan was at the 1607 01:17:08.439 --> 01:17:10.319 final table. All guys that play here in our studio, 1608 01:17:10.359 --> 01:17:12.880 but one hundred k plow event. What about the phil 1609 01:17:12.880 --> 01:17:15.920 Ivy He did not final table that but one point 1610 01:17:16.039 --> 01:17:18.520 nine million there for the first they did it yet, 1611 01:17:18.520 --> 01:17:19.439 like I said, three way. 1612 01:17:19.279 --> 01:17:24.279 Deal, he's this guy who's in first place, Donnie. Let's 1613 01:17:24.279 --> 01:17:26.239 see there was another one. Do you see the other one? 1614 01:17:26.560 --> 01:17:30.920 Dubai Dubai police, Yeah, what are we doing? Well? What what? 1615 01:17:30.920 --> 01:17:32.880 What do you That might have been his name? No, 1616 01:17:32.960 --> 01:17:35.079 there's no shot that was he's like put Dubai Police. 1617 01:17:35.119 --> 01:17:39.079 Yeah probably yeah, but yeah it's from possibly the new 1618 01:17:39.279 --> 01:17:42.119 high Roller series out there in Cyprus. Good time. People 1619 01:17:42.119 --> 01:17:43.960 want to get out of Vegas. What do we possibly 1620 01:17:44.039 --> 01:17:45.960 it for sure? Is well, let's see if they're doing 1621 01:17:45.960 --> 01:17:47.640 next to you, like you know, but. 1622 01:17:48.319 --> 01:17:50.159 The process that I feel like I saw here Jesse 1623 01:17:50.199 --> 01:17:52.239 Loan has finished sixth place in his other tournament. 1624 01:17:52.439 --> 01:17:55.119 They've got also the Onyx you know, cash game room, 1625 01:17:55.359 --> 01:17:56.880 so like I think four or five tables in and 1626 01:17:56.920 --> 01:17:58.760 that's where they do the live streams from. 1627 01:17:58.840 --> 01:18:00.399 DoD Jesse Loans lose a Coger. 1628 01:18:01.800 --> 01:18:04.399 What the hell He's got angels and gorillas and he's 1629 01:18:04.800 --> 01:18:06.079 only showed us I never. 1630 01:18:07.359 --> 01:18:11.800 I mean his his his arrival on the content creation 1631 01:18:11.920 --> 01:18:18.159 scene is certainly entertaining, I'll say that. So so yeah, anyway, 1632 01:18:18.319 --> 01:18:19.600 you know, I just want to kind of mention the 1633 01:18:19.600 --> 01:18:22.680 honest Super Highroller series stuff talking about Monarch. I mean, 1634 01:18:23.680 --> 01:18:25.800 I don't even know where this thing came from. Where 1635 01:18:25.800 --> 01:18:29.520 you're talking about Monarch versus. Okay, So I started Jungleman 1636 01:18:29.600 --> 01:18:35.159 two weeks ago somewhere up in Europe, and and they 1637 01:18:35.239 --> 01:18:40.239 had a two million dollar heads up cash game. Kate's lost, 1638 01:18:40.560 --> 01:18:42.479 not one, but it came out of nowhere. Yeah, he 1639 01:18:42.560 --> 01:18:44.000 was like, all of a sudden, I saw like something 1640 01:18:44.039 --> 01:18:46.399 on like somebody tweeted something and something. I was like, 1641 01:18:46.439 --> 01:18:47.520 what the hell is happening? 1642 01:18:47.560 --> 01:18:51.560 They come here and he played a heads up match 1643 01:18:51.640 --> 01:18:56.279 with Cameron mackri or something. I think he lost two 1644 01:18:56.319 --> 01:18:58.600 million to him, wanted to play again. It was like 1645 01:18:58.640 --> 01:19:01.600 three am in Cyperci and he's like, no, I gut. 1646 01:19:02.199 --> 01:19:06.000 So they didn't play. Next night they played Kate's I 1647 01:19:06.000 --> 01:19:10.039 think Kate's won a million. Then Monarch won a million. 1648 01:19:10.079 --> 01:19:11.840 Then they played again, Monarch won a million, then they 1649 01:19:11.840 --> 01:19:14.640 played for three million kates one, then they went to five, 1650 01:19:15.520 --> 01:19:17.960 and then they got to six. It was just absurdity. 1651 01:19:18.600 --> 01:19:20.319 And then the next night they played a full ring 1652 01:19:20.359 --> 01:19:23.399 cash game. Monarch dusted six hundred k pretty quickly. 1653 01:19:23.720 --> 01:19:26.039 I mean, who the hell is Monarch? Nothing against the guy. 1654 01:19:26.039 --> 01:19:28.399 I just like, it's like out of nowhere. It was 1655 01:19:28.439 --> 01:19:30.399 like I just saw something on social media. It was 1656 01:19:30.399 --> 01:19:32.239 like Jungleman's playing Monarch. I was like, who the hell 1657 01:19:32.319 --> 01:19:32.760 is Monarch? 1658 01:19:33.000 --> 01:19:35.159 He's in you know, he's a Finnish guy. He's like 1659 01:19:35.239 --> 01:19:38.800 the he owns like an e sports company. He I 1660 01:19:38.800 --> 01:19:39.479 think he owns. 1661 01:19:39.560 --> 01:19:42.399 I mean, I'm assuming se I just always assume Crypto. 1662 01:19:42.920 --> 01:19:45.039 I just assumed Crypto, you know. And it's just like, 1663 01:19:45.079 --> 01:19:47.239 what the hell just happened? So he was also very 1664 01:19:47.279 --> 01:19:49.119 weird to watch them play. I mean I didn't watch 1665 01:19:49.119 --> 01:19:50.560 the whole thing, but I too go in here and there, 1666 01:19:51.079 --> 01:19:55.039 but like one part is they're playing this insanely high 1667 01:19:55.119 --> 01:19:57.560 six matchup, but they had like no chips on the tape. 1668 01:19:57.600 --> 01:19:59.239 I think that's what they wanted, I know, but it 1669 01:19:59.279 --> 01:20:01.840 was just weird for a viewing standpoint. And then second, 1670 01:20:02.760 --> 01:20:07.720 they're like across this massive table. Yeah, and like ninety 1671 01:20:07.760 --> 01:20:09.800 percent of the time that I was watching Jongleman's on 1672 01:20:09.840 --> 01:20:12.920 his phone, so it was just confused. 1673 01:20:13.039 --> 01:20:16.199 It was yeah, they're on their phone. That wasn't great, 1674 01:20:16.760 --> 01:20:20.000 but I mean it was. It was great to wash 1675 01:20:20.079 --> 01:20:22.239 some of the hands. Monk did this hand where he 1676 01:20:22.279 --> 01:20:26.319 triple barreled six high and Kate's had I think he 1677 01:20:26.359 --> 01:20:30.159 had kings up and uh he ended up folding the river. 1678 01:20:30.319 --> 01:20:33.359 But yeah, crazy action. Yeah, they're on their phones a lot. 1679 01:20:33.439 --> 01:20:36.159 There wasn't much table talk. They had two dealers. Remember 1680 01:20:36.199 --> 01:20:39.000 when they did that. It was millions, like fifteen years ago. 1681 01:20:39.000 --> 01:20:41.399 Remember that one dealer dealing. They had one dealer shuffling, 1682 01:20:41.439 --> 01:20:44.119 So that was good. They're doing some different swit screens. 1683 01:20:44.199 --> 01:20:47.279 I could have this wrong, but I think Crown was 1684 01:20:47.319 --> 01:20:50.319 the first to do that, not during Ozzie Millions. Remember 1685 01:20:50.319 --> 01:20:53.880 they had that speed poker cham Challengexley. 1686 01:20:53.960 --> 01:20:57.119 Yeah, yeah, the first use of shot Fox was the 1687 01:20:57.119 --> 01:21:00.800 speed poker. But look, it was entertaining. Who knows where 1688 01:21:00.800 --> 01:21:04.319 he gets his money from? Every time they they he lost. 1689 01:21:04.399 --> 01:21:07.640 He wanted to play bigger, play for side money. Kates 1690 01:21:07.640 --> 01:21:11.199 wanted odds. He gave him odds. As long as Kate's 1691 01:21:11.279 --> 01:21:13.319 up the buying from five million to six million, it's 1692 01:21:13.359 --> 01:21:15.640 giving him three point six million to three million dollar odds. 1693 01:21:15.680 --> 01:21:17.800 It was like group chats with all these side bets 1694 01:21:17.840 --> 01:21:20.399 in it and stuff. It was, I don't know, it was. 1695 01:21:20.439 --> 01:21:23.079 It was pretty crazy. It was enjoyable to watch. I 1696 01:21:23.159 --> 01:21:26.239 watched ninety percent of it. I think, so very unplanned 1697 01:21:26.239 --> 01:21:28.680 because even the commentators were just like, yeah, I was 1698 01:21:28.680 --> 01:21:30.640 on the golf course and I got told that, I. 1699 01:21:30.560 --> 01:21:32.960 Got called on that, you know, I had to just whatever. 1700 01:21:33.000 --> 01:21:35.720 I had to come down and uh and jump in 1701 01:21:35.760 --> 01:21:38.079 the booth. So they didn't even know what was going on. 1702 01:21:38.159 --> 01:21:40.880 But it was very entertaining, and I hope we see 1703 01:21:40.920 --> 01:21:43.279 some more monarch cash games. 1704 01:21:43.720 --> 01:21:46.199 I kind of hope that I was thinking about this too, 1705 01:21:46.239 --> 01:21:49.119 Like I hope that I hope he just pops up 1706 01:21:49.199 --> 01:21:52.319 like once every two years, like like he he like 1707 01:21:52.359 --> 01:21:54.640 he doesn't become a thing, because then it makes it 1708 01:21:54.680 --> 01:21:57.600 look more special if he's just like this unicorn, like 1709 01:21:57.640 --> 01:21:59.640 you have no idea what he's gonna pop up. Kind 1710 01:21:59.640 --> 01:22:04.479 of like at least my memory how I think about isolder. Yeah, 1711 01:22:04.520 --> 01:22:06.800 before he was Victor Blob, like you never knew when 1712 01:22:06.800 --> 01:22:09.159 he was gonna play, and then he would just. 1713 01:22:09.079 --> 01:22:10.439 Pop up rail heaven Boom. 1714 01:22:10.479 --> 01:22:12.600 They're going like that's it, you know, like it's like, oh, 1715 01:22:12.720 --> 01:22:15.000 he's playing Antonio's heads up for a bazillion dollars, Like 1716 01:22:15.079 --> 01:22:15.439 let's go. 1717 01:22:15.600 --> 01:22:17.520 I uh. We talked a little bit earlier about the 1718 01:22:17.560 --> 01:22:22.079 High Rolepoker dot com website 'SI Katola. Who is Monarch. 1719 01:22:22.960 --> 01:22:25.479 He is the very top of the losing leader board. 1720 01:22:25.479 --> 01:22:28.479 He's last seven ten point four nine two million dollars, 1721 01:22:29.159 --> 01:22:32.239 so he's the new Guila Liberty in sixteen hours. I'll 1722 01:22:32.239 --> 01:22:35.479 play now. It doesn't have his win versus Jungle the 1723 01:22:35.520 --> 01:22:38.960 first win for two million, So let's just interpret this 1724 01:22:39.000 --> 01:22:41.960 with a grain of salt. He's hourly is negative one million. 1725 01:22:42.479 --> 01:22:45.319 The next worst loser is that the right next best 1726 01:22:45.319 --> 01:22:48.199 loser anyway has only last seven points, The next biggest loser, 1727 01:22:48.239 --> 01:22:50.600 next biggest seven point seven, and if we go to 1728 01:22:50.640 --> 01:22:53.960 the top, who's down seven points zero ton Zwan. They 1729 01:22:53.960 --> 01:22:56.840 did an article on him on Poker News literally three 1730 01:22:56.920 --> 01:22:58.800 days ago about him losing all this money, and then 1731 01:22:58.840 --> 01:23:03.119 Monarch takes his spuck top Dan Kates fourteen point five 1732 01:23:03.159 --> 01:23:06.520 million dollars. He's hourly thirty three k it has rankings 1733 01:23:06.560 --> 01:23:08.920 of how many spots they moved up. He moved up 1734 01:23:08.960 --> 01:23:11.319 four thousand and ninety five spots on this lead aboard. 1735 01:23:11.560 --> 01:23:14.960 He's only like forty two players that they're tracking. 1736 01:23:15.000 --> 01:23:18.600 But will they track cash of the Titans. 1737 01:23:19.079 --> 01:23:21.560 I'm assuming so it has high sex poker episodes has 1738 01:23:21.560 --> 01:23:23.680 no gam when our future has streams, assuming they'll add 1739 01:23:23.800 --> 01:23:27.039 the Yeah, we'll see where Gavy really sits before we 1740 01:23:27.079 --> 01:23:27.359 move on. 1741 01:23:27.640 --> 01:23:28.800 I mean I was going to tell you. I was 1742 01:23:28.800 --> 01:23:30.399 going to say, before we move on, you got something 1743 01:23:30.520 --> 01:23:30.920 for the people. 1744 01:23:31.000 --> 01:23:33.000 Yeah, we've got for the people. Got another code word 1745 01:23:33.119 --> 01:23:34.800 for that. He's got listening at home. We are giving 1746 01:23:34.840 --> 01:23:38.079 a seat to the million dollar Championship. You can represent 1747 01:23:38.319 --> 01:23:41.600 the Poco podcast. All you gotta do pgt dot com, 1748 01:23:41.640 --> 01:23:44.319 slash stream seat. All the promotions are there, but in particular, 1749 01:23:44.720 --> 01:23:47.199 we have one where you're going to go to gleam. 1750 01:23:47.279 --> 01:23:50.039 It's like the social media website where you can retweet 1751 01:23:50.159 --> 01:23:52.439 and follow us and do all these things and earn 1752 01:23:52.479 --> 01:23:54.880 tickets and we draw a winner a couple months left 1753 01:23:54.880 --> 01:23:58.680 in that for ten raffle tickets, you got to enter 1754 01:23:58.680 --> 01:24:00.640 a code word. You can go back less. Some last 1755 01:24:00.680 --> 01:24:02.600 episodes put in the code word if you want to 1756 01:24:02.640 --> 01:24:05.880 get those ten tickets. This week's code word, it's fitting. 1757 01:24:06.359 --> 01:24:10.399 It's Monarch, the new hero in the High Stakes Cash 1758 01:24:10.439 --> 01:24:14.319 Game World. Monarch m O n A R c H. 1759 01:24:14.399 --> 01:24:16.199 Put that in. You get ten extra raffle tickets. If 1760 01:24:16.199 --> 01:24:19.159 you haven't done it before, that's fine. You get tickets 1761 01:24:19.159 --> 01:24:24.079 for following us, retweeting some PGT tweets, visiting certain pages 1762 01:24:24.119 --> 01:24:26.760 on our website, and if you go listen to the 1763 01:24:26.840 --> 01:24:29.760 last five or six pods, you can get those keywords 1764 01:24:29.880 --> 01:24:32.279 to put them in. But yeah, we're trying to put 1765 01:24:32.279 --> 01:24:35.319 someone in the PGT Million Dollar Championship. Represent us. Sit 1766 01:24:35.439 --> 01:24:40.319 against Osmas, you know, Negranu, Fox and the heroes of 1767 01:24:40.359 --> 01:24:44.159 the PGT hopefully kick them out, knock them out and 1768 01:24:44.199 --> 01:24:47.079 win the win the PGT Championship for yourself. 1769 01:24:47.359 --> 01:24:54.239 Let's go WSIP Paradise. They dropped their schedule December fourth 1770 01:24:54.399 --> 01:24:59.720 through eighteenth, down in the Bahamas at the Atlantis Paradise 1771 01:24:59.760 --> 01:25:02.600 I Island Resorts. I believe that's a couple of days 1772 01:25:02.640 --> 01:25:05.840 earlier than last year. Maybe I'm wrong there, but that's 1773 01:25:05.880 --> 01:25:10.560 my recollection. Fifteen Gold Bracelet events. The Super Main Event returns. 1774 01:25:11.199 --> 01:25:13.239 That's not new news. Of course they did announce that 1775 01:25:13.319 --> 01:25:16.680 during this summer's was be main event, but it returns 1776 01:25:16.720 --> 01:25:21.840 with a sixty million dollar guarantee. They said, you know what, 1777 01:25:21.920 --> 01:25:25.119 fifty wasn't enough. It doesn't matter, We're going to sixty. 1778 01:25:25.720 --> 01:25:33.960 Let's go baby, I mean wild wild. They also have 1779 01:25:34.079 --> 01:25:37.479 a two seven hundred and fifty dollars circuit Championship Mystery 1780 01:25:37.479 --> 01:25:39.279 Bounty with a five million dollar guarantee. 1781 01:25:39.439 --> 01:25:42.720 That's the doc right, that's basically the new teams I 1782 01:25:42.720 --> 01:25:43.039 think so. 1783 01:25:43.159 --> 01:25:45.600 Yes. That's also the lowest buying on the schedule. Yeah, 1784 01:25:45.640 --> 01:25:48.880 this is very much made for high buying players, some 1785 01:25:48.880 --> 01:25:51.880 would say super players. They have the fifty three hundred 1786 01:25:51.880 --> 01:25:56.039 dollars Super Colossus, and then they have six Triton events, 1787 01:25:56.039 --> 01:25:58.239 at least that's what I count. Six events had the 1788 01:25:58.239 --> 01:26:02.399 Triton name in them. So I mean thoughts on the schedule. 1789 01:26:03.199 --> 01:26:05.520 Well, first of all, it's very ballsy up in the 1790 01:26:05.560 --> 01:26:07.760 guarantee after you missed it the year before. But but 1791 01:26:08.079 --> 01:26:10.720 I thought they made it well with the way they 1792 01:26:10.920 --> 01:26:14.159 do the numbers. They missed it, how do you know? 1793 01:26:14.279 --> 01:26:17.720 I think they made it? You know, okay, whatever, they 1794 01:26:17.760 --> 01:26:19.800 made it, yes, and then they have to still take 1795 01:26:19.840 --> 01:26:22.000 the fees out after they made it, so it actually 1796 01:26:22.039 --> 01:26:26.560 went under. So that's ambitious, but good on them putting 1797 01:26:26.560 --> 01:26:30.600 more money in the community. This is, without doubt a 1798 01:26:30.680 --> 01:26:33.600 high roll or only series, and that's fine if that's 1799 01:26:33.640 --> 01:26:36.880 what they're targeting. I get it. You got all these 1800 01:26:36.880 --> 01:26:40.880 big buying events, lots of entries, lots of re entries. 1801 01:26:41.239 --> 01:26:45.239 You know, it's a very expensive trip, you know, chasing bracelets. 1802 01:26:45.760 --> 01:26:48.159 You talk about that twenty seven hundred dollars circuit event. 1803 01:26:49.239 --> 01:26:51.199 If you know, I know, you do win a package, 1804 01:26:51.600 --> 01:26:55.800 right if you qualify? Is that enough if you're a 1805 01:26:55.840 --> 01:26:58.640 circuit grinder, because you can't if you're you know, let's 1806 01:26:58.640 --> 01:27:01.680 talk about these circuit grinders. Ninety eight percent of them. 1807 01:27:02.600 --> 01:27:04.840 This is a big mind, twenty seven hundred dollars, right, 1808 01:27:04.920 --> 01:27:07.479 they play a lot smaller. They're grinders. They're playing the 1809 01:27:07.479 --> 01:27:09.439 four hundreds, the six is, the eight hundreds, you know, 1810 01:27:09.479 --> 01:27:12.920 et cetera. So will they decide to go there to 1811 01:27:13.000 --> 01:27:15.520 play you know, a mistery bounty event, knowing that they 1812 01:27:15.560 --> 01:27:18.600 probably can't really play anything else, or will they give 1813 01:27:18.640 --> 01:27:22.520 that up to possibly play something with more value to them, 1814 01:27:22.600 --> 01:27:26.000 maybe here in Las Vegas. So it is what this 1815 01:27:26.079 --> 01:27:29.560 schedule is it's built for high rollers. I hate it. 1816 01:27:30.560 --> 01:27:33.000 On what I don't like it? It's high it's a 1817 01:27:33.039 --> 01:27:34.279 high roller Braces series. 1818 01:27:34.399 --> 01:27:36.720 Yeah, so I don't I don't mind that. I feel 1819 01:27:36.720 --> 01:27:40.079 like I feel like there is certainly appetite in the market, 1820 01:27:40.159 --> 01:27:43.239 there is this sort of stuff. There is the part 1821 01:27:43.279 --> 01:27:46.319 I don't like. I mean, I understand why they did it, 1822 01:27:46.399 --> 01:27:49.720 but I personally just don't think that they need to 1823 01:27:49.720 --> 01:27:51.159 do it. Like I don't think you need to partner 1824 01:27:51.159 --> 01:27:55.119 with Triton. I think the Dubasby brand itself is big enough. 1825 01:27:55.560 --> 01:27:58.159 Like so I I just I would do this on 1826 01:27:58.199 --> 01:28:00.239 my own, Like I think you can do it on 1827 01:28:00.279 --> 01:28:00.520 your own. 1828 01:28:00.520 --> 01:28:03.720 I think you didn't have a Trent event, you know, 1829 01:28:04.399 --> 01:28:06.439 I guess they lost them, says if we didn't have 1830 01:28:06.479 --> 01:28:08.439 the Trent and would we still get the same numbers 1831 01:28:08.439 --> 01:28:10.600 in those high roles. Does having that try and brand 1832 01:28:10.640 --> 01:28:13.399 bring some of those real try and loyalists, you know, 1833 01:28:13.439 --> 01:28:15.119 out to play this event? And possibly? 1834 01:28:15.239 --> 01:28:16.800 I mean, I think I think a lot of those 1835 01:28:16.840 --> 01:28:20.279 Triton players would love to come to the disipy in 1836 01:28:20.319 --> 01:28:23.960 the States, but for various reasons they don't, largely taxes 1837 01:28:24.000 --> 01:28:27.439 and stuff. But this is the Bahamas so I think 1838 01:28:27.479 --> 01:28:30.279 that they would probably go down here and play. So 1839 01:28:30.479 --> 01:28:32.720 I mean, I mean, maybe you lose a percentage of them, 1840 01:28:32.920 --> 01:28:35.199 but I still think you would get enough. I also 1841 01:28:35.239 --> 01:28:38.800 think that if you just did a lot of qualification 1842 01:28:39.680 --> 01:28:42.439 to all these different buyings on the GG poker platform, 1843 01:28:42.439 --> 01:28:44.199 which I'm sure they do any of, yes, but like 1844 01:28:44.319 --> 01:28:46.000 you're going to get a lot of those guys that 1845 01:28:46.039 --> 01:28:48.000 are playing there that are like, Okay, you know, I'll 1846 01:28:48.000 --> 01:28:49.680 take some shots and win. Maybe I went into this 1847 01:28:49.760 --> 01:28:50.520 hundred care or whatever. 1848 01:28:51.159 --> 01:28:54.720 So I still wish this was just I know there's 1849 01:28:54.760 --> 01:28:58.800 a little battle going on. I just really wish this 1850 01:28:58.920 --> 01:29:02.319 was in January different time, you know, because we're going 1851 01:29:02.399 --> 01:29:04.319 to probably touch on a little bit the win that 1852 01:29:04.359 --> 01:29:07.319 the WBT World Championship here for sure to win. But 1853 01:29:07.359 --> 01:29:10.760 don't forget one of the biggest stops in Europe is 1854 01:29:10.840 --> 01:29:13.720 running at the same time as this EPT Prague, and 1855 01:29:13.760 --> 01:29:17.760 that had I believe, record breaking numbers. Right. Is that back? Yeah? 1856 01:29:17.760 --> 01:29:22.159 I have it on my schedule. I just I just. 1857 01:29:22.159 --> 01:29:23.760 I can't remember if it's been back or now. I 1858 01:29:23.800 --> 01:29:25.760 mean it's probably back, but yeah it is. I have 1859 01:29:25.880 --> 01:29:29.399 some of the December third through fourteenth. I just don't 1860 01:29:29.560 --> 01:29:30.399 like the BATTLEPT. 1861 01:29:30.960 --> 01:29:34.079 You know, there's when you're talking about fifty K buying, 1862 01:29:34.119 --> 01:29:36.279 twenty five K, bye hundred K buyings. It's a very 1863 01:29:36.279 --> 01:29:40.439 small play pool. And you know you have these events 1864 01:29:40.479 --> 01:29:42.439 on at EPT Prague. They have a fifty K super 1865 01:29:42.520 --> 01:29:45.079 high roller, they have a ten K ten K high roller, 1866 01:29:45.119 --> 01:29:47.439 and they have five k Maine. You know, you've got 1867 01:29:47.439 --> 01:29:49.960 the win. Whatever they're going to be doing, it's really 1868 01:29:50.359 --> 01:29:53.880 stretching that playpool out. So just if this was November, 1869 01:29:53.920 --> 01:29:55.640 if this was January, if this is a different time, 1870 01:29:56.159 --> 01:29:58.119 you can have one hundred percent of the market share 1871 01:29:58.560 --> 01:30:01.159 and then you can have your staying high buying events. 1872 01:30:01.159 --> 01:30:03.439 You could also probably have another twenty lower buying events 1873 01:30:03.439 --> 01:30:06.720 and really make this, you know, a second World series 1874 01:30:06.760 --> 01:30:10.199 outside of Vegas. So that's my only really grap about this. 1875 01:30:10.359 --> 01:30:12.479 But look, people are going to go there because they 1876 01:30:12.479 --> 01:30:13.960 want to play big, they want to win a lot 1877 01:30:13.960 --> 01:30:16.399 of money, they want to chase bracelets. I just think 1878 01:30:16.399 --> 01:30:19.199 they're leaving a lot of fat in the barn by 1879 01:30:19.319 --> 01:30:22.000 making these buyings so big and picking these exact dates. 1880 01:30:24.399 --> 01:30:27.199 I like the fact that they're skewing the buying higher, 1881 01:30:27.439 --> 01:30:30.000 you know, I think that that's clearly what this series 1882 01:30:30.079 --> 01:30:33.359 is made for, and then because of that, I probably 1883 01:30:33.399 --> 01:30:36.479 wouldn't have this twenty five hundred, Like I just like 1884 01:30:36.560 --> 01:30:39.800 I just wouldn't, you know, I would probably have nothing 1885 01:30:39.920 --> 01:30:42.560 lower than a ten k, Like I would have a 1886 01:30:42.560 --> 01:30:44.359 few ten k's on the schedule. You obviously have the 1887 01:30:44.359 --> 01:30:46.279 twenty five k super main event, and then you know, 1888 01:30:46.319 --> 01:30:48.199 do whatever you want for a fifty k, s, hundred k's, 1889 01:30:48.399 --> 01:30:48.840 et cetera. 1890 01:30:49.680 --> 01:30:50.920 But I feel like. 1891 01:30:50.920 --> 01:30:56.359 The the twenty five hundred Circuit Championship, I mean, that's 1892 01:30:56.960 --> 01:31:00.880 square peg round hole like it Like that's doesn't fit. 1893 01:31:01.640 --> 01:31:04.600 Like obviously this is clearly, at least to me, a 1894 01:31:04.960 --> 01:31:10.479 high roller series, So why are you then inviting that 1895 01:31:10.479 --> 01:31:14.000 that down there? I think you can do that elsewhere. 1896 01:31:14.079 --> 01:31:16.640 Like I just always still feel like that Circuit Championship 1897 01:31:16.640 --> 01:31:18.680 should like be during the summer. That's when everyone is 1898 01:31:18.720 --> 01:31:19.159 in Vegas. 1899 01:31:19.159 --> 01:31:21.039 You're going to get the biggest numbers, like et cetera. 1900 01:31:21.279 --> 01:31:24.520 Like most eyeballs are on you know, celebration of it, 1901 01:31:24.560 --> 01:31:28.600 blah blah blah. Yeah so yeah, so I mean, but 1902 01:31:28.680 --> 01:31:32.880 I like the fact that they go, you know, fully 1903 01:31:32.960 --> 01:31:37.079 high roller with it. I mean, I think this is 1904 01:31:37.119 --> 01:31:40.560 clearly catered towards ones like specific player. Basically it's it's 1905 01:31:40.640 --> 01:31:44.279 the high roller and that's fine. You know. They basically 1906 01:31:44.359 --> 01:31:46.600 are like, Okay, this is that this little like narrow 1907 01:31:46.640 --> 01:31:48.159 path that we're going down with this, and that's what 1908 01:31:48.159 --> 01:31:48.680 it's going to be. 1909 01:31:49.399 --> 01:31:49.720 Now. 1910 01:31:50.800 --> 01:31:52.600 I will say that, and I will say like, this 1911 01:31:52.640 --> 01:31:55.039 is also why and I advocated for this last year. 1912 01:31:55.359 --> 01:31:59.119 I think WPT for their December stuff should go a 1913 01:31:59.119 --> 01:32:02.600 bit the other way like where I say that in 1914 01:32:02.640 --> 01:32:05.960 my opinion wy Paradise, or at least my thought right now, 1915 01:32:06.079 --> 01:32:09.439 is that they should have the lowest buying be ten k. Yeah, 1916 01:32:10.439 --> 01:32:13.279 WPT World Championship. I feel like the highest buying should 1917 01:32:13.319 --> 01:32:15.680 be the ten K World Championship and everything else should 1918 01:32:15.720 --> 01:32:19.479 be between like five hundred to five thousand. And like 1919 01:32:19.520 --> 01:32:22.439 you you try and go for that market, right and 1920 01:32:22.520 --> 01:32:25.560 you also another like another piece of the market that 1921 01:32:25.600 --> 01:32:28.800 I think WPT World Championship like can go for and 1922 01:32:28.960 --> 01:32:30.600 I think they do try and go for it is 1923 01:32:31.119 --> 01:32:35.039 the mixed game crowd, because there's no mixed games on 1924 01:32:35.119 --> 01:32:39.560 the the Paradise schedule, right. I know they had the 1925 01:32:39.600 --> 01:32:40.920 one well I know they had the one. 1926 01:32:41.119 --> 01:32:42.880 Was it an eight game? I think they have it so. 1927 01:32:43.239 --> 01:32:45.239 They do the eight game mix, it's ten K buying, 1928 01:32:46.039 --> 01:32:48.800 but wasn't that twenty five K last twenty that's the 1929 01:32:48.800 --> 01:32:50.720 one Walterson one deal is choice. 1930 01:32:50.479 --> 01:32:52.239 And they couldn't make a deal his choice because they 1931 01:32:52.239 --> 01:32:53.560 didn't have all the games. 1932 01:32:53.000 --> 01:32:56.319 So I find that interesting that that's like I would 1933 01:32:56.399 --> 01:32:58.039 I would, honestly if I was as I would just 1934 01:32:58.039 --> 01:32:59.920 throw it out out, like what's the point, you know, 1935 01:33:00.159 --> 01:33:04.000 I don't think that that even matters, right, yeah, I 1936 01:33:04.000 --> 01:33:05.800 mean unless you're gonna have more of them to draw 1937 01:33:05.840 --> 01:33:07.960 on more of that crowd. I just don't even think 1938 01:33:07.960 --> 01:33:12.479 that that's like, just have a ten G six hundred plo, 1939 01:33:12.680 --> 01:33:15.119 ten K six hred half and half five car po 1940 01:33:15.159 --> 01:33:18.239 out whatever, you know, something like that, and then you 1941 01:33:18.239 --> 01:33:21.439 know again. WPT who they announced their dates for December 1942 01:33:21.479 --> 01:33:24.119 second through twenty second, and then they don't have like 1943 01:33:24.159 --> 01:33:26.000 specific dates to the tournaments. They don't have the full 1944 01:33:26.039 --> 01:33:28.560 tournament schedule, but they did say that the ten four 1945 01:33:28.640 --> 01:33:31.439 hundred dollars WPT World Championship will have three starting flights 1946 01:33:32.079 --> 01:33:36.119 starting on December thirteenth. The WPT Prime Championship has four 1947 01:33:36.159 --> 01:33:39.439 starting flights and that's gonna start on December seventh, So 1948 01:33:40.640 --> 01:33:45.880 I'm also curious, you know, what does the WPT do 1949 01:33:46.520 --> 01:33:52.960 because two years ago, Kurt right, they did the forty million. Yeah, 1950 01:33:53.439 --> 01:33:55.399 and then that's kind of what sparked this whole thing. Oh, 1951 01:33:55.439 --> 01:33:57.439 you're gonna do forty million, We're gonna do fifty million. 1952 01:33:57.439 --> 01:34:00.840 You know, they missed the forty million. Now w SP's 1953 01:34:00.880 --> 01:34:03.479 over here going, not only did we do fifty, we're 1954 01:34:03.520 --> 01:34:08.119 going to go to sixty. Okay, WPT ditch their guarantee entirely. 1955 01:34:08.640 --> 01:34:09.000 Now. 1956 01:34:09.520 --> 01:34:14.600 They did do very well on the turnout for that event, 1957 01:34:15.079 --> 01:34:19.079 even without a guarantee, right, I think that they did 1958 01:34:19.119 --> 01:34:22.920 better than I thought they would do. So that's a 1959 01:34:22.920 --> 01:34:27.279 win in my opinion for the WPT. They got what 1960 01:34:27.319 --> 01:34:29.760 two thousand I think it was, yeah, twenty three hundred 1961 01:34:29.760 --> 01:34:32.359 and ninety two, which I think is freaking incredible for 1962 01:34:32.399 --> 01:34:36.840 a ten K, especially with no guarantee. I am curious 1963 01:34:36.880 --> 01:34:40.119 to see if they do it without a guarantee, Like, 1964 01:34:40.560 --> 01:34:43.439 do we start to see this this downward trend. I'm 1965 01:34:43.479 --> 01:34:45.560 always big on like, you know, don't freak out after 1966 01:34:45.600 --> 01:34:49.640 like one instance of something, But if you start seeing trends, 1967 01:34:49.960 --> 01:34:51.319 that's when you start like being. 1968 01:34:51.119 --> 01:34:52.800 Like, okay, so well the thing. 1969 01:34:52.840 --> 01:34:55.239 But also last year is they even though they didn't 1970 01:34:55.279 --> 01:34:58.319 have the guarantee, they had that five million dollar free roll. 1971 01:34:58.479 --> 01:35:00.479 So like like, we haven't heard it anything about a 1972 01:35:00.479 --> 01:35:02.960 free role, So like what are they? 1973 01:35:03.239 --> 01:35:03.600 What are they? 1974 01:35:03.680 --> 01:35:06.000 What is their pop? What is like this is our 1975 01:35:06.039 --> 01:35:06.880 shiny object? 1976 01:35:06.920 --> 01:35:09.720 What is it? Yeah, I mean we have to see 1977 01:35:09.720 --> 01:35:12.520 Obviously we're talking August right now. It's we don't know 1978 01:35:12.520 --> 01:35:15.560 where that sweepsakes market's going to be in December, right, 1979 01:35:15.640 --> 01:35:17.680 so that's going to matter a lot. You have to 1980 01:35:17.720 --> 01:35:20.000 remember you said there's no guarantee on that event, but 1981 01:35:20.239 --> 01:35:23.640 there was in a way a million dollar guarantee because 1982 01:35:23.680 --> 01:35:26.520 they gave a hundred seats out for that event. I mean, 1983 01:35:26.520 --> 01:35:29.680 that's something guarantee, something guarantee. But you know that number 1984 01:35:29.680 --> 01:35:31.680 includes one hundred extra players. I was one of them 1985 01:35:31.800 --> 01:35:33.039 that want to say, sure that one. 1986 01:35:33.039 --> 01:35:35.039 Hundred may But what I'm saying, we haven't heard any 1987 01:35:35.079 --> 01:35:36.880 of that stuff. True, true, But I'm just at some 1988 01:35:36.920 --> 01:35:38.640 point you have to start marketing that. I mean it 1989 01:35:38.680 --> 01:35:39.880 is almost going to be September. 1990 01:35:40.000 --> 01:35:41.880 Yeah, I would say that if I was to guess, 1991 01:35:41.920 --> 01:35:44.720 they would maybe do something very similar. I don't think 1992 01:35:44.720 --> 01:35:47.359 we'll see guarantee. It's more of a question of what 1993 01:35:47.439 --> 01:35:49.960 will will there be some kind of five million dollar 1994 01:35:50.039 --> 01:35:53.079 free role promotion kind of effort around that, I would 1995 01:35:53.119 --> 01:35:55.960 say that if without that, I would say that the 1996 01:35:56.079 --> 01:35:59.520 numbers will most likely be very similar or even more. 1997 01:36:00.279 --> 01:36:03.359 You know, I think I think Paradise is a little 1998 01:36:03.359 --> 01:36:07.319 stay off for some people. So I see people don't going. 1999 01:36:08.680 --> 01:36:10.479 I think you can still go to Paradise, come back. 2000 01:36:10.520 --> 01:36:12.359 We you know, we talked to Jeremy Osmas. You know, 2001 01:36:12.439 --> 01:36:14.680 he was at my that my main event table that day, 2002 01:36:14.680 --> 01:36:15.640 and he goes, yeah, I was sick of it. I 2003 01:36:15.640 --> 01:36:17.279 had to come back. I think we'll see a bit 2004 01:36:17.319 --> 01:36:19.920 of that. You know, we mentioned it last week, but 2005 01:36:19.920 --> 01:36:22.359 we got to talk about the bitcoin price. You know, 2006 01:36:22.399 --> 01:36:25.279 that will affect things a little bit too. So yeah, 2007 01:36:25.279 --> 01:36:28.520 I would think that people would prefer to congregreatee here. 2008 01:36:29.039 --> 01:36:31.600 You know, we're going to throw in whatever Ari is doing. 2009 01:36:31.680 --> 01:36:33.720 You know, they did something new last year for December. 2010 01:36:33.840 --> 01:36:35.640 I'm going to say that they're doing something this year 2011 01:36:36.199 --> 01:36:38.720 that will contribute to people wanting to come here and 2012 01:36:39.239 --> 01:36:42.880 turn December into a mini summer right where you know, 2013 01:36:42.880 --> 01:36:45.439 everyone's got competing things. We're gonna have win we can 2014 01:36:45.479 --> 01:36:48.720 have you know, we can have the MGM properties. You know, 2015 01:36:48.960 --> 01:36:51.520 you can get a lot of value. We should have PGT. 2016 01:36:52.159 --> 01:36:54.960 We do have PGT events called the PGT Rags Riches. 2017 01:36:55.119 --> 01:36:59.920 We should have PGTREGT. We should, but it's too hot. 2018 01:37:00.119 --> 01:37:01.079 You're too much of a knit. 2019 01:37:01.520 --> 01:37:04.119 Not a knit. You're a knit. Not a knit, You're 2020 01:37:04.159 --> 01:37:06.720 a knit. It's just in the schedule for it. 2021 01:37:06.880 --> 01:37:09.640 Yes, there is. You know what we should do. I 2022 01:37:09.640 --> 01:37:12.640 know exactly what we should do. We should have like 2023 01:37:12.720 --> 01:37:17.600 five twenty five case what dice whenever the win is, 2024 01:37:17.880 --> 01:37:21.199 whenever the wind is running some fifteen hundred. 2025 01:37:22.159 --> 01:37:23.479 Yeah, they they're smart enough. 2026 01:37:23.560 --> 01:37:26.439 Tene you You are in no way, shape or form 2027 01:37:26.640 --> 01:37:29.840 scared to do ten k's and fifteen k's when the 2028 01:37:29.880 --> 01:37:30.840 regular World Series of. 2029 01:37:30.800 --> 01:37:33.600 Poker is running, says everyone's here. 2030 01:37:33.840 --> 01:37:36.359 Yeah, and enough people will be here that will want 2031 01:37:36.359 --> 01:37:40.119 to come play a twenty five k nothing less than 2032 01:37:40.159 --> 01:37:41.880 a twenty five kids, I'll have like four or five 2033 01:37:42.079 --> 01:37:42.920 twenty five case. 2034 01:37:43.279 --> 01:37:48.520 I think it's the user. It's the user. But yeah, 2035 01:37:48.640 --> 01:37:50.560 I'm going to bet it goes up. We really have 2036 01:37:50.560 --> 01:37:51.159 to see what happens. 2037 01:37:51.319 --> 01:37:53.479 I'm going to say it dips slightly. And I say 2038 01:37:53.479 --> 01:37:58.039 that because I mean minimum dips slightly. I think that's 2039 01:37:58.039 --> 01:38:00.319 the biggest barometer in poker. 2040 01:38:00.600 --> 01:38:02.880 Sure, but we had travel regulations and all kinds of 2041 01:38:02.880 --> 01:38:05.039 other issues with them. Also. 2042 01:38:05.239 --> 01:38:10.439 Listen, I know you can say that that people have 2043 01:38:11.600 --> 01:38:14.279 soured a little bit on going to the Bahamas in Paradise, 2044 01:38:14.439 --> 01:38:18.439 and I have heard the same things. Yeah, it is 2045 01:38:18.520 --> 01:38:21.800 ten million dollars more. Guaranteed, they got to get people 2046 01:38:21.800 --> 01:38:23.720 from somewhere. They gotta put them in. 2047 01:38:23.760 --> 01:38:24.960 You gotta put up twenty five k. 2048 01:38:26.039 --> 01:38:29.439 Yeah, but they said they're going to qualify a thousand people. 2049 01:38:29.960 --> 01:38:32.039 How much those people got to qualify from somewhere? 2050 01:38:32.039 --> 01:38:34.479 How much does the rule changes that they made last 2051 01:38:34.520 --> 01:38:37.680 year annoy people that were there where they're like, I'm 2052 01:38:37.680 --> 01:38:38.399 not going. 2053 01:38:38.439 --> 01:38:40.960 Yeah, I'm sure, I'm sure, I'm sure there's some of that. Yes, 2054 01:38:41.000 --> 01:38:42.920 but I'm saying, remember, remember they're still going to cram 2055 01:38:43.039 --> 01:38:45.960 people in via satellites. And maybe those people because there 2056 01:38:46.000 --> 01:38:48.800 was enough internationals that came to the win in December, 2057 01:38:49.319 --> 01:38:53.000 maybe those like and maybe maybe in you know, last year, 2058 01:38:53.079 --> 01:38:56.479 maybe they came because let's say they didn't win a package. 2059 01:38:56.520 --> 01:38:58.439 They tried to win a package, right, and they just 2060 01:38:58.439 --> 01:39:00.199 didn't win one. So they're like, Okay, whatever, I'll go 2061 01:39:00.279 --> 01:39:02.119 to the win, you know, not a big deal. I'm 2062 01:39:02.159 --> 01:39:04.439 kind of over the Bahamas anyway, I'll go to the win. 2063 01:39:04.640 --> 01:39:07.600 It's not as expensive to go to Vegas versus going 2064 01:39:07.640 --> 01:39:09.640 to Atlantis, Like, okay, I'll just go to the win. 2065 01:39:10.239 --> 01:39:11.800 What if they end what if those people end up 2066 01:39:11.800 --> 01:39:14.880 winning a package? Right, Like, I'm just like, I don't know. 2067 01:39:15.079 --> 01:39:17.439 I just think it's gonna be like I think we're 2068 01:39:17.439 --> 01:39:20.439 gonna see something similar in the Bahamas where they're basically 2069 01:39:20.479 --> 01:39:23.199 like right at sixty million for the prize Bowl, like 2070 01:39:23.239 --> 01:39:25.439 once again, just like they were basically right at fifty 2071 01:39:25.439 --> 01:39:28.359 million dollars, right, So maybe if they take the fees out, 2072 01:39:28.399 --> 01:39:30.239 they dip below it whatever, like, but I don't think 2073 01:39:30.239 --> 01:39:32.439 they're gonna like, I mean, I maybe they will, but 2074 01:39:32.479 --> 01:39:34.239 I don't think they're gonna like get seventy five million 2075 01:39:34.279 --> 01:39:35.680 in the prize I go out of nowhere. I think 2076 01:39:35.680 --> 01:39:38.039 it's gonna be like very close to sixty. And then 2077 01:39:38.079 --> 01:39:40.640 I think WPT is probably gonna be like twenty two hundred, 2078 01:39:40.960 --> 01:39:42.880 which is like not even like that big of a dip. 2079 01:39:43.399 --> 01:39:46.560 So it's it's whatever. I'm more curious as it relates 2080 01:39:46.560 --> 01:39:49.840 to the WPT, like I almost don't like I guess 2081 01:39:49.840 --> 01:39:51.479 this is probably a bad way to phrase it, but 2082 01:39:51.520 --> 01:39:54.039 I just almost don't care about the World Championship, Like 2083 01:39:54.079 --> 01:39:58.399 iow it just be like I think. I know, it's 2084 01:39:58.439 --> 01:40:01.159 obviously big and it's great whatever, but I don't know. 2085 01:40:01.199 --> 01:40:03.239 I like big shiny objects, man, So like when you 2086 01:40:03.279 --> 01:40:04.680 had a big guarantee on it, it was just a 2087 01:40:04.720 --> 01:40:09.119 shiny object to me. To me, did I play it 2088 01:40:09.159 --> 01:40:11.920 last year? I did not play it last year. I 2089 01:40:11.960 --> 01:40:13.800 did not play it last year because I did not 2090 01:40:13.920 --> 01:40:15.760 like the fact that I didn't have a guarantee. I 2091 01:40:15.800 --> 01:40:17.399 thought that that would play into the fact that it 2092 01:40:17.439 --> 01:40:19.880 made the tournament a little bit harder because you don't 2093 01:40:19.960 --> 01:40:21.880 you don't have to cram in a bunch of qualifiers. 2094 01:40:22.279 --> 01:40:24.760 They crammed me in then and my money way. 2095 01:40:24.680 --> 01:40:29.560 And honestly, I did think it was somewhat difficult, like 2096 01:40:29.720 --> 01:40:32.359 more difficult than than I would have liked to if 2097 01:40:32.359 --> 01:40:34.159 I'm gonna, you know, stretch myself for a ten K. 2098 01:40:34.760 --> 01:40:37.359 Now I am one hundred and sixty third best player 2099 01:40:37.359 --> 01:40:39.560 in the world, so maybe I will try and come back. 2100 01:40:39.760 --> 01:40:42.079 You should you should make yeah, And I did. 2101 01:40:42.399 --> 01:40:44.079 I did cash that tournament once. I can't remember what 2102 01:40:44.560 --> 01:40:47.079 place was that two hundred and something something? 2103 01:40:47.119 --> 01:40:50.520 This is you know once that once it's vent Ron's. 2104 01:40:50.560 --> 01:40:52.479 That's this is the new one chance. I think I'm 2105 01:40:52.560 --> 01:40:54.239 up in ten k events, so you have to defend 2106 01:40:54.239 --> 01:40:56.279 your one hundred and sixty third place. I should look 2107 01:40:56.319 --> 01:40:58.279 at that up. If I'm up in ten ks, how 2108 01:40:58.279 --> 01:41:00.119 many events you pay? Just do a simple map. You 2109 01:41:00.199 --> 01:41:07.239 made four men cash and you're basically even there two No, 2110 01:41:07.479 --> 01:41:08.680 no you you played? 2111 01:41:08.800 --> 01:41:12.319 I played one. I played one w PT for sure. 2112 01:41:12.319 --> 01:41:14.439 I can't remember I played the second year? Did I? Ye? 2113 01:41:14.520 --> 01:41:16.079 I had to because it went it went, yeah, because 2114 01:41:16.119 --> 01:41:18.000 I I cashed the first year. It was small mine 2115 01:41:18.880 --> 01:41:22.680 in ten case, Yeah, I'm winning, crushing life, crush, but 2116 01:41:22.720 --> 01:41:23.520 you know, absolutely crush. 2117 01:41:23.600 --> 01:41:25.159 You have to defend you one hundred and sixty third 2118 01:41:25.199 --> 01:41:27.640 place in this event because this is the World Championship. 2119 01:41:27.840 --> 01:41:29.680 Look up when I cashed another one? 2120 01:41:29.920 --> 01:41:33.359 Why you have to defend you? That's all I'm saying. 2121 01:41:33.359 --> 01:41:35.560 You got to defend the reason why I say that. Listen, 2122 01:41:35.680 --> 01:41:37.199 I know people are going to get mad the way 2123 01:41:37.239 --> 01:41:39.840 phrase it, but whatever, I don't care. I think the 2124 01:41:39.880 --> 01:41:43.000 big shiny object for the WPT World Championship schedule is 2125 01:41:43.039 --> 01:41:46.520 the WPT Prime Championship, Like that, to me is the 2126 01:41:46.560 --> 01:41:51.199 big shiny object. That's the one where it's eleven d 2127 01:41:51.319 --> 01:41:55.239 by in right, so there's eleven hundred, right, and it 2128 01:41:55.279 --> 01:41:59.720 gets ten thousand people, Like it's freaking ridiculous. That's the 2129 01:41:59.760 --> 01:42:02.680 one where like you can send press releases out afterwards 2130 01:42:02.720 --> 01:42:04.880 because it's like this is the record setter for this 2131 01:42:04.960 --> 01:42:07.439 and that like that's the one to me, you know, 2132 01:42:07.960 --> 01:42:11.159 So like I just feel like that because they took 2133 01:42:11.199 --> 01:42:13.680 away from the WPT World Championship. Yes I know it 2134 01:42:13.720 --> 01:42:15.880 got almost twenty four hundred entries, Yes I get it, 2135 01:42:16.159 --> 01:42:19.520 but ultimately you scaled it back quite a bit. Like 2136 01:42:19.600 --> 01:42:22.800 I just, to me, the WPT Prime Championship is whereas at. 2137 01:42:22.880 --> 01:42:24.880 So that's why I say that, like I would kind 2138 01:42:24.880 --> 01:42:29.600 of build the schedule around that type of player versus 2139 01:42:29.600 --> 01:42:32.680 trying to build the schedule around the ten KWPT World Championship. 2140 01:42:34.000 --> 01:42:35.920 Would I would still have that, of course, and it 2141 01:42:35.920 --> 01:42:38.720 would be the headliner, you know, or one of the 2142 01:42:38.760 --> 01:42:42.960 focal points, right the cap on it all, But I 2143 01:42:42.960 --> 01:42:45.640 would focus on like again the five hundred dollars buy 2144 01:42:45.640 --> 01:42:48.039 into the five k buy in price point. I would 2145 01:42:48.079 --> 01:42:50.479 focus on a lot of mixed games, and I would 2146 01:42:50.479 --> 01:42:55.560 try and cram basically every circuit mid May major grinder 2147 01:42:56.079 --> 01:42:58.239 into Las Vegas in December. 2148 01:42:58.520 --> 01:42:59.159 That's my goal. 2149 01:43:00.000 --> 01:43:01.760 Would look at WSP and I would say, listen, you 2150 01:43:01.760 --> 01:43:05.000 guys can have the high rollers. That's totally fine. We 2151 01:43:05.079 --> 01:43:08.439 can all co exist here. And if I was WSP, 2152 01:43:08.479 --> 01:43:10.119 which I think WSP did a good job of, I 2153 01:43:10.119 --> 01:43:12.399 would say you can have all the you know, mid 2154 01:43:12.479 --> 01:43:15.920 stakes type of players, which I think WSP for the 2155 01:43:15.920 --> 01:43:17.840 most probably I know they have that circuit championship, yes, 2156 01:43:17.880 --> 01:43:19.880 but for the most part, everything else is big, big 2157 01:43:19.880 --> 01:43:22.199 buy and stuff. Right, So it's like we're over here, 2158 01:43:22.479 --> 01:43:24.119 you guys can be over there and we can all 2159 01:43:24.159 --> 01:43:26.359 co exist and poker in general can just be very 2160 01:43:26.439 --> 01:43:30.399 good in the month of December in both places right now. Yes, 2161 01:43:30.439 --> 01:43:33.520 there is gonna be some some people like I mean 2162 01:43:33.560 --> 01:43:35.600 Jerry Ausma's just because you mentioned him, he's like someone 2163 01:43:35.640 --> 01:43:37.640 who you know, I know what he said. He might 2164 01:43:37.640 --> 01:43:39.960 not go back there, but maybe maybe he gets pulled 2165 01:43:40.000 --> 01:43:41.640 back there. Yeah, right, and he's gonna be one of 2166 01:43:41.640 --> 01:43:43.399 those guys who's like probably in the middle. Like, there 2167 01:43:43.399 --> 01:43:45.319 are some of those guys that are like I could 2168 01:43:45.359 --> 01:43:47.119 go here because I can obviously play big, or I 2169 01:43:47.119 --> 01:43:49.359 can go here and I can you know, play maybe 2170 01:43:49.359 --> 01:43:52.279 with some weaker competition, bigger fields and whatever, get my 2171 01:43:52.920 --> 01:43:54.640 you know, my bang for the buck that way. So 2172 01:43:55.079 --> 01:43:56.720 I think it's going to be interesting turn the thirty 2173 01:43:56.720 --> 01:44:00.800 fourth place, by the way, in the WPT World Championship, 2174 01:44:01.000 --> 01:44:05.680 my first ever PGT cash. You have two, No, I 2175 01:44:05.720 --> 01:44:06.159 do have two. 2176 01:44:06.239 --> 01:44:08.000 No I should I should be in the PGT Hall 2177 01:44:08.039 --> 01:44:13.960 of Fame. Not yet. So yeah, So I just I 2178 01:44:14.000 --> 01:44:15.439 think it's interesting that. 2179 01:44:16.880 --> 01:44:20.159 We've heard a lot from w SP and we haven't 2180 01:44:20.159 --> 01:44:24.239 heard much from WPT, And I mean that's probably orchestrated 2181 01:44:24.279 --> 01:44:26.600 in that WPT is probably waiting see what they announced, 2182 01:44:26.600 --> 01:44:28.920 see what they come with, blah blah blah, and then 2183 01:44:28.920 --> 01:44:31.039 we're going to announce our stuff. There might also be 2184 01:44:31.079 --> 01:44:33.560 some stuff that you mentioned where like they need to 2185 01:44:33.600 --> 01:44:36.800 see how the sweepstakes landscape shakes out a little bit 2186 01:44:36.800 --> 01:44:41.159 more right, and then they're gonna figure things out. But 2187 01:44:41.159 --> 01:44:42.640 but yeah, I would think if you're going to do 2188 01:44:42.640 --> 01:44:44.800 any sort of big guarantee, you you have to just 2189 01:44:44.840 --> 01:44:47.560 be you have to be qualifying people. 2190 01:44:47.560 --> 01:44:51.000 It has to be out there. So you know, I'm 2191 01:44:51.000 --> 01:44:52.000 not gonna go to the Hamas. 2192 01:44:52.039 --> 01:44:54.640 I'm in Vegas is my backyard, so I'm going to 2193 01:44:54.680 --> 01:44:57.680 be at the win, right, So I hope they bring 2194 01:44:57.720 --> 01:44:59.880 a lot, you know, I'm very much looking forward to it. 2195 01:45:00.199 --> 01:45:02.079 I haven't think you could do something like and I've 2196 01:45:02.119 --> 01:45:04.319 said this before and I've worked with the WPT and 2197 01:45:04.359 --> 01:45:05.640 the kind of looked at me like I was crazy 2198 01:45:05.640 --> 01:45:07.039 when I was in the office and I brought this 2199 01:45:07.159 --> 01:45:09.880 idea up. But what if you did the first ever 2200 01:45:11.359 --> 01:45:17.960 WPT Main Tour PLO title thirty three hundred or like 2201 01:45:18.039 --> 01:45:22.279 a five K buy in in make it big. I 2202 01:45:22.279 --> 01:45:25.560 think you go like thirty five to five K, and 2203 01:45:25.600 --> 01:45:27.840 I think you put like a five million guarantee on it, 2204 01:45:28.159 --> 01:45:31.039 and that's your freaking shiny object. I would say that, 2205 01:45:31.119 --> 01:45:34.399 like for the WPT World Championship, you should basically have 2206 01:45:34.560 --> 01:45:43.159 like four major titles. I think that they considered the Prime, 2207 01:45:43.680 --> 01:45:46.479 the WPT Prime as a major in their mind. Okay, 2208 01:45:46.520 --> 01:45:48.760 so I think that's one of the four, the WPT 2209 01:45:48.880 --> 01:45:52.439 Prime Championship. Okay, you obviously have the WPT World Championship. 2210 01:45:53.000 --> 01:45:55.720 I think you add this a PLO championship, first ever 2211 01:45:55.760 --> 01:45:59.680 one banging guarantee, let's go. I think you could also 2212 01:45:59.720 --> 01:46:02.079 do like just like a like another like like a 2213 01:46:02.119 --> 01:46:05.079 thirty five hundred five million guarantee or something similar to 2214 01:46:05.119 --> 01:46:07.000 remember when Seminole did they had like they had in 2215 01:46:07.039 --> 01:46:09.640 the same series, the WPT. They had the Ryan Reese 2216 01:46:09.680 --> 01:46:11.520 I think won the ten k. Yeah, that's right, they 2217 01:46:11.520 --> 01:46:13.319 had like the thirty three, and then they had the 2218 01:46:13.359 --> 01:46:16.000 ten k and they were both main tour titles. 2219 01:46:16.279 --> 01:46:18.159 Like why couldn't you do that? Yeah, you could do that. 2220 01:46:18.079 --> 01:46:21.359 You know, so you could have the the eleven hundred 2221 01:46:21.359 --> 01:46:23.600 dollars prime, you could have a thirty three hundred dollar 2222 01:46:23.640 --> 01:46:26.680 PLO championship first ever, and then you can have a 2223 01:46:26.680 --> 01:46:30.479 thirty three hundred dollars WPT Main Tour Championship like both 2224 01:46:30.479 --> 01:46:33.039 of those thirty three hundred five million dollar guarantee, I mean, 2225 01:46:33.039 --> 01:46:34.760 go nuts, and then you have the ten. 2226 01:46:34.720 --> 01:46:37.159 K as the kapper. Yeah, I'm in. 2227 01:46:37.600 --> 01:46:41.119 I'm in solve your problem. Where do I send the invoice? 2228 01:46:42.239 --> 01:46:43.760 What Savage's email. 2229 01:46:44.119 --> 01:46:47.920 Savage Parker gilt com. Probably, I mean that that's probably 2230 01:46:47.920 --> 01:46:52.880 probably is a good guess or poker TDA or Savage 2231 01:46:52.920 --> 01:46:55.359 at TDA dot com was only on whatever, who cares. 2232 01:46:56.319 --> 01:46:58.560 We'll just we'll just send him our invoice. But I 2233 01:46:58.600 --> 01:47:00.640 think that that would be legit. Know, I think that. 2234 01:47:02.239 --> 01:47:05.600 I think that PLO is here. It deserves a freaking 2235 01:47:05.760 --> 01:47:09.600 WPT Main Tour title. Let's go if you want to 2236 01:47:09.600 --> 01:47:13.159 go buck wild, you just had the WPT Prime PLO 2237 01:47:13.319 --> 01:47:14.279 Championship as well. 2238 01:47:14.359 --> 01:47:16.000 That that would make sick. 2239 01:47:17.279 --> 01:47:20.119 Actually yeah, but why can't they have one of each both? 2240 01:47:20.479 --> 01:47:22.079 That's what I mean. Then you get a five like 2241 01:47:22.800 --> 01:47:28.119 five like headlining trophy events like those are your five? Yeah, 2242 01:47:28.720 --> 01:47:31.800 Like that's it, the best five. That's the win, the 2243 01:47:31.840 --> 01:47:33.840 win at the win for the w PT. How the 2244 01:47:33.840 --> 01:47:35.920 win wins, that's how the win wins. Well, the win 2245 01:47:36.039 --> 01:47:38.000 is winning. I don't think the win is losing. Okay, 2246 01:47:39.159 --> 01:47:41.359 So yeah, all right, cool, that's I think that's all 2247 01:47:41.399 --> 01:47:43.760 we got. We went for almost two hours. Holy hell, 2248 01:47:43.920 --> 01:47:45.199 Rich Ryan's gonna kill us. 2249 01:47:45.760 --> 01:47:47.560 Get ready for my big drive to go win some 2250 01:47:47.880 --> 01:47:50.920 football trophies. Football. Good. 2251 01:47:50.920 --> 01:47:52.479 Look, I saw you want a piece of wood. That 2252 01:47:52.560 --> 01:47:52.840 was great. 2253 01:47:52.880 --> 01:47:56.000 That's actually pretty cool, Chevy. It looked like a piece 2254 01:47:56.039 --> 01:47:59.439 of wood. It's stumptown throw down in paul and in 2255 01:47:59.479 --> 01:48:01.880 the forest, Like I thought it was a cool trophy. 2256 01:48:02.319 --> 01:48:04.760 All right, whatever, I'll take any trophy it is. I 2257 01:48:04.800 --> 01:48:06.119 wasn't you know. He's the funny thing that like, are 2258 01:48:06.119 --> 01:48:08.399 you going to enter this contest? It was the longest 2259 01:48:08.479 --> 01:48:10.760 kid contest. My team was like, you need to enter 2260 01:48:10.760 --> 01:48:14.119 your win. I'm not entering unless it's a trophy. And 2261 01:48:14.159 --> 01:48:15.640 then they showed me the trophy and I was like, 2262 01:48:16.000 --> 01:48:17.880 I'm in and I what did I do with my wedding? 2263 01:48:18.159 --> 01:48:24.720 It's on my finger, it's on it on the ground's respectful. 2264 01:48:25.359 --> 01:48:27.800 All right, we're gonna get out of here for Tim Duckworth. 2265 01:48:27.840 --> 01:48:29.640 My name is Donny Peters and we'll talk to you 2266 01:48:29.640 --> 01:48:30.199 guys next time. 2267 01:48:30.399 --> 01:48:47.479 So yeah,