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Speaker 1: Hello, everyone, Welcome back to a new episode of the

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Poker Go Podcast. My name is Donny Peters. His name

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is Tim Duckworth. It is Thursday, August twenty first, eight

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thirty eight pm. Cramming this one in here before we

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go home. Just wrapped up day one of the third

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edition of Cash of the Titans. I know it's not

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on the rundown, but I do want to hit on

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that to start the show, so we'll talk about that.

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Tim's going to be out the door to San Diego.

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He's got to play some kangaroo ball, right, what kangaroo ball?

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Speaker 2: Shot like that?

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Speaker 1: What do you plan? Australian rules kangaroo ball? All right, right,

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changarou ball, Come on, kangaroo ball.

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Speaker 2: Let's go.

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Speaker 1: Do you bounce it? You kick it like you throw

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it out?

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Speaker 3: Don't.

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Speaker 2: I don't even know the rules. You have it, you

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kick it, you bounce it, run with it, you put

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it through the post. Score some calls win, some uh,

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some trophies. That's about it, all right, some tackles.

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Speaker 1: We're also going to talk about National Heads Up Poker

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Championship because it is back. We're all no, we're not

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no spoilers. We're only going to talk about the draw

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for the Round of sixty four. We're gonna look at

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some of those early matchups see how things shake out there.

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That is still a TBD on the release schedule for it.

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It's going to be coming to Peacock to Poker, go

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to the Poker Stars channels, but that's all to be

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announced once they start locking in all the episodes and

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how it's all going to shake out. Got some news

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on the Twitter streets or social media streets. Now, I

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don't necessarily think all of this news is fully like

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the two companies going toe to toe, but I don't know.

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It's just kind of interesting that on one side you

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have Club WPT Gold came out with something very interesting,

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weird off putting too many that we'll talk about, and

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then you have GG Poker on the other side coming

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out with something that I think a lot of people

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are like, Wow, this is very cool and innovative. So

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we're going to talk about both of those things and

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what they are. If you've got to go back to

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the final episode from the World Series of Poker. While

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we were talking about Michael Mssrocky's historic win, news dropped

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that the Aussie millions was returning, and we said that

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we would talk about it on a future episode. Well,

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this is that episode. I got my resident kangaroo buddy

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right here, so we're going to hit on it the

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Ausie millions. It's I feel like, I feel like we

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know some stuff, but we don't know a lot of stuff.

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So we'll see what we know. We'll review it and

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talk about that a little bit. We got a big, big,

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big Super high Roller series that is going down right

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now over in Cyprus. It's not fully complete, but a

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couple of events that we want to hit on there.

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And then I guess, you know, kind of going back

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to the whole WPT versus p slash GG poker type

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of stuff. You got WSP's Paradise release their schedule. We

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got dates that came out for the WPT World Championship

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in December, with a couple of specific dates as it

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relates to WPT Prime Championship and the WPT World Championship.

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You know, but that part of things, the WPT stuff

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is still also kind of TBD, so we're gonna juggle

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those balls back and forth as well. So fun show today.

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get into these news and happenings. The first thing, I

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know it's not on the rundown tim, so forgive me.

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But let's touch on day one, day one of three

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for Cash of the Titans. We just wrapped it up

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so rather unique format. If you guys don't know what

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Cash of the Titans is, it's basically a hybrid between

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a cash game and tournament worked into one. The players

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have to buy in for a certain amount. Okay, they

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get then a certain allotted amount of rebuys or add

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ons however they want to take them. The blind start

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at a certain level, but then they escalate. There are

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escalating levels which you don't often see in cash games.

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On top of that, they all post money on the

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side for a bonus prize pool that is divvied up,

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you know, depending on how that version of Cash of

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the Titans is structured. For this Cash of the Titans,

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each player there are seven players. They're each putting up

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seventy five k on the side, and then it's seventy

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five k to the biggest winner from day one. It

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is one hundred and fifty K to the biggest winner

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from day two. Just day two, and then the third

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and final day, three hundred thousand goes to the biggest

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overall winner from all three days. So it's a cash game, yes,

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but it also has that tournament leaderboard element to it.

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It has that prize pool element that a turn and has,

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so it's it's a blend of both worlds. For this edition,

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we have Andrew Robel, one of the heaviest of hitters.

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We have Alan Keating, an absolute maniac out there, great

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person to have on stream, Andrew Pachico aka Ace, Justin

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Gavriy Kirk Brown, Seawan Madden, and Darren Feinstein. The stakes

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started I think two hundred three.

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Speaker 2: Hundred, two hundred three hundred and then go today went

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to two hundred and four hundred.

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Speaker 1: So they played two levels each day across three days.

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So today they played Day one or yesterday theypending on

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when you're listening or watching to this, and then on

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Friday is going to be Day two. On Saturday is

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going to be the finale. So even if you missed

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Day one, action would highly encourage you to one go

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back and watch it because these hands were freaking ridiculous

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when you consider the whole like bonus prize money at steak.

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It's just wild how it all plays out, epic, epic

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ending to the whole thing, So be sure to go

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and watch that, and then of course it all builds

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today two, it builds today. A lot of fun that

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is available. The first level was available for free on

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the poker Go YouTube channel. The whole stream is available

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on PokerGO dot com. But I mean, we're gonna spoil

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it a little bit here because it's done and it's

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out there, you know, so if if you want to

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watch it, I would highly encourage you to skip the

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next a little bit of the episode. But I guess

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let me throw it to you. First, biggest kind of

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takeaway from day one of this Cash of the Titans.

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Speaker 2: We thought it was gonna be a little smaller of

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a game. Yeah, that's true. I forgot to mention that.

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Oh yeah, that's the kind of thing. The plan originally

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was one hundred thousand dollars buying, and then you get

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two hundred k bullets and they kick things off. They

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got cards in the air, some pots slide of flying,

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and then all of a sudden it was you know,

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they added a couple more add ons, and they added

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a couple more add ons and basically the max right

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now is and I say right now, because we don't

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know what's gonna happen on day two of three. They

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could rules could change again. But you're allowed a total

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of seven one hundred cables. Now that sounds great, but

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it's a little unfair because you know you put it.

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It's unfair you're putting on this side money. You touched

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on a seventy five k today, he won fifty tomorrow,

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three hundred overall. And you know, some of these players

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accepted the side money and the rules and then things

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got changed. Now it's hard to kind of argue when

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certain players are like, hey, let's bump it up a

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bit more. So I feel bad for a couple of

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the guys there.

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Speaker 1: But it's also one of those things where it's kind

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of like when you're at the final table of a

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tournament and everyone asked to do everyone wants to do

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a chop. Yeah, you don't want to be that guy

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who says no, So it's kind of awkward. I always

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say so, yeah, I know you, but I'm just saying

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even like you kind of I know ultimately you and

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I can both say we think it's unfair. Somebody could

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counter point that and say, yeah, but all the players

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agreed to it because they did, and then I would

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just say yeah, but like if you gave them a

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true serum, like would they really agree, did they really

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wanted to or they was doing it because everyone else,

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Like is it just kind of an awkward thing? So

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that part is a little bit interesting now end of

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the day, everyone did agree, right, So I get it,

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But I do feel like overall that definitely favors Keating

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and Robles specifically just because I feel like they have

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endless money, you know. I mean, I also kind of

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think Justin Gavrie might have endless money. Nothing against Justin Gavrie.

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out there battling, whether it being no Gamble in the Future,

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Cash of the Titans, High Sake, Spoke, or whatever it is.

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This guy just cannot win in the studio. It's outrageous. Yeah,

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he can't do anything right. It's not that he can't

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do anything right, because he does a lot of stuff right.

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It's just that nothing goes his way. It reminds me

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of remember when we were through all the tournaments, especially

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the Super High buying stuff. Chris brew was just losing, losing, losing, bubbling, bubbling, bublin,

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just like huge spot after a huge spot. It reminds

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me of that, but in a cash game format, like

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Gavrey just gets his money and gets his money and

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gets his money, and like if he's ahead, he doesn't hold.

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If he's behind, he doesn't get lucky, like it just

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it doesn't matter, Like it's just it's so sick.

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Speaker 2: This Si out there high rollpoker dot com the tracks,

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like have you seen this that before? Yeah, he's grafts

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in the positive though, So I don't know, I mean sure

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like Goss live streams and I doesn't count the episodes

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because if they're counting episodes, I think you're right.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm just like I could be off in

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what I'm watching, but I feel like every time I

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see him play, it's just not going his way.

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Speaker 2: Like I'm just I'm just sorry. I was like, look

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it has yeah, season four.

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Speaker 1: I mean I even made a comment to like our

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group today and and Brent Hanks was like, yeah, he's

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always getting crushed.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Again, it's not like he's getting crush because he's a

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bad player. He's just like it just does not work

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out in his favor. It's just so sick to watch,

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and like you're like, at some point, like you just

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want to reward the guy for constantly showing up. Yeah,

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he just shows up and continues to get punched in

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the face, but he continues to like have a smile

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on his face, He's got a drink in his hand,

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he's he's having a good time. At least it looks

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like he's having a good time, you know. So I'm

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sure justin Gay will have his day and maybe he's

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able to use one of his seven bullets in this

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thing and come back. But man, like another day when

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just like it was like really like really it's all

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gonna happen to him again.

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Speaker 2: So anyway, continue with what you were saying. No, no,

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I just wanted to look at the high roll poker

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to see where he kind of is. And it's not

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as bad as you know, you and my thought, but

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it also could have been a lot better maybe, you know. Yeah,

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and we might revisit this page when we get onto

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one of the later topics. But okay, yeah, look, it's

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it's an interesting format. It does make you know, like

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we said, we don't want to give too much away,

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but the final few hands made things interesting, just like

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in Cash of the Titans too, when we had Andrew Robo,

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Christen Fox and Sean Perry are playing kind of some

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massive pass in the end that you know, came down

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to the wire for that last bonus and the you

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know who, we declared us the winner. So even today

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we saw that it's probably gonna happen tomorrow, it's probably

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gonna happen on day three. It's it's a great watch

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and hopefully you know, if you did miss it, make

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sure you uh check the four replay onfi go dot com.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, listen. There were some incredibly big pots. Yeah,

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some would say massive, shout out, massive couple. I think

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three or four were north of four hundred thousand. A

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couple of them went over the half million mark, which

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when you're playing two hundred three hundred and two hundred

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four hundred, I mean that's wildly big. Yeah, I mean

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these guys were absolutely blasting. You had a huge three

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way all in at one point, you know, you had

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the guys playing for it all and at another point

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it was Darren Feinstein versus Alan Keating versus we both

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had middle pair on the flop and the money just

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got in. I mean Keating had middle pair and a

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flush straw. But like still just like NonStop, like just

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crazy stuff. Keating playing some hands blind toward the end,

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like it was just wild, wild wild. They get to

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the second to last hand of the night, an insane

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clash happens between Justin Gavriy and and Alan Keating. Now,

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when the money went in, Gavriy was behind, yes, but

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when you're up against a wild card that is Alan

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Keating on the Queen ten to seven board and you

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got Queen jack, I can't fault Justin Gavriy for going

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broke there. And Keating's just got the ten seven yeah,

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and they put fourteen k in pre flop each, so

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it's like, you know, like really again, just just going

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bad for Justin Gavriy there. And Keating ends up on

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that second to last hand of the night. He storms

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all the way back to take the day's lead by

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five K five K, and then the final hand has

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to play out where like him and Roebul and Sean

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Madden are involved in this kind of weird three way

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pot that Sean Madden ends up winning. And because he

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wins it, you know, Keating secures the day's end, wins,

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so he gets that seventy five thousand dollars bonus. I mean,

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the whole thing is just it was an incredible episode

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from start to finish. It started with a bang. You know,

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there was that hand right at the beginning again Justin Gavriy.

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He gets King Queen. Now he three bets. Alan Keaton

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gets Aces, which is like, it's just unfair like that.

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He gets Ace to see four bets, gets back to Keating.

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He calls with King Queen. Suit can't fault anything there.

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It's Alan Keaton could have complete napkins. It comes King High. Okay,

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this is horrible news for Justin Gavriy turns a King.

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Oh this is great news for Justin gavrie Oh no,

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rivers an Ace. And then that's when all the money

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just decides to go in. And of course Keating's got

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the full house over the trips for Justin Gavriy, and

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just like bang, right out of the gate. You know,

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welcome to Cash of the Titans. Alan Keating, you are

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just the absolute best, I guess, and just you know,

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more bad news for Justin Gavriy. But overall a really

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really great show today, four hours of play, just epic

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from start to finish. One player busted out. That was

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Ace Pachico. He lost I believe two twenty five. And

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then I know you you mentioned obviously the cap is

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seven hundred that you can lose seven to seventy five

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total if you include the seventy five thousand dollars side bet.

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But you know, A said, all right, that's my biggest

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loss or my stop loss. I'm out, you know for

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the day. He called it, called it quits, you know,

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essentially forfeiting his seventy five k side bet. And he's done.

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So they're down to six. Right, there was a big hand,

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that big hand that I mentioned with the queen jack

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for Gavrie versus the ten seven for Keating, that happened

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on the second to last hand of the night. Gafrey

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ends up reloading for one of his bullets. Hunter K

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back on the table. He plays one more hand. They

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end up bagging, I guess. But they come back with

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the same number of chips, right, yeah, oh they can

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use the add ons and yeah, but they can't like

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you can't like a resets like Keating's got Keating's got

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over five hundred K on the table. Roboles got I

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think over I think he is all seven hundred maybe

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on the table. Actually I don't know if he used

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it all. I think he had six or seven hundred

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on the table. Yeah, and he's up like two hundred

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thirty or something to twenty. So something like that crazy,

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crazy day of poker. I would highly encourage you guys

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to go back and watch this if you want to

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check it out, because I think this is one of

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the best products that Poker gro puts out there. I

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truly believe that. I think if you guys have listened

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to the show long enough, you would trust that I

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would tell you if it wasn't so yeah, the Cash

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of the Titans. I just really think that this format

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is super unique. I will also say that along those lines,

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I would not ever do it more than once, maybe

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twice a year. Like I think this is one of

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those things that it's unique, and part of it being

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special is that it doesn't happen often, like it's like

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a once a year thing, you know, Like if you

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started to be like, Okay, this format works, let's do

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it every single week, I'd be like, Okay, you're now

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you're ruining it, like you're saturating the whole thing. So

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let's just keep it to once a year. Build it

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up to be a big thing. You know, it becomes

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kind of an event in a way. And I really like,

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all right, let's move on to another big event, the

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National Heads Up Poker Championship. It is back, baby, sixty

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four players. They were drawn to the first round. When

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did that happen? A couple weeks ago they had the

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draw party in here, which was July thirty.

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Speaker 2: First.

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Speaker 1: The draw party was awesome. I didn't know what to

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expect for the draw party. You always go into those things.

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You're going into the unknown. You know who's going to

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show up. What's the vibe going to be?

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Speaker 2: Like?

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Speaker 1: Is there gonna be a buzz or an energy in

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the studio because this event is back. You know, we

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know what the old draw parties used to be. I

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got to go to a couple of them. I hit

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a bad beat jackpot at one of them. But if

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you want to go on PokerGO dot com where Tim's

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been putting up all of the past seasons, and you

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can see the draw party in some of that. Yeah,

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You're like they're in like huge ballrooms, like they're all

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filling out their brackets, getting called up on stage, like

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it's a whole it's a whole thing. Now, this one

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wasn't as big as back then, but this was still

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I mean the room was freaking buzzy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so you know, a lot. We had a lot

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of fun there. At least fifty five of the players here.

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We had a few that got delayed traveling in, you know,

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flying in from La San France, et cetera. But I

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thought getting fifty five other players here was pretty good.

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Obviously I had some plus one's, we had media here.

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It was fun. You're right, like there was everyone kind

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of congregated in that room. We drew people in, they

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came in, they talked a little shit about their opponents,

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shook hands, took some photos. There's a bit of side

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bets going on, you know, like there was a lot

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of actally even before, like you know, betting actual brackets,

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but just you know, I'm going to get picked before you,

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and it's it's all random, so they're basically just flipping coins.

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But I think it was it was a great atmosphere.

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So yeah, very very fun night. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So that that really got you know, the buzz going

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and got me excited, you know, because again you're going

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into the unknown. You don't really know what to back,

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you don't know how people are going to receive it.

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But I think everyone there was generally excited, very very

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happy to be involved with it all. And then we

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did the draw, and the draw was a lot of fun.

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You know, Yes, some people weren't there, but I think

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you had you had Jeff Platt doing the MC duties

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and you know, pulling the names and whatnot. There was

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some you know, friendly ribbing, some jabs thrown at times.

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You know, you had people kind of going at each

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other when they were called up. So yeah, so so

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let's just run through, you know, some of the matchups,

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you know, you can find the brackets were posted on

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the poker ro social channels. Again, this is you know,

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coming out later and I know various media outs have

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written about the round of sixty four. I'm not going

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to spoil anything here, but I do want to know,

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first off, who is the most exciting first round matchup

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in your opinion?

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Speaker 2: I personally think we're going to go into this diamonds

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bracket right down here.

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Speaker 1: I'm fully prepared for you to say something freaking nuts

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right now, like I with the way that you do

473
00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:08,079
do shit, you might say the most outrageous thing ever,

474
00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:09,200
So go ahead.

475
00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:12,240
Speaker 2: Not this time. It's to me. It was three Coin

476
00:23:12,599 --> 00:23:15,880
versus Michael Msrah. You got the main event. That's a

477
00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:19,119
good one versus three Coin. Now, it's not just that

478
00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:22,079
you gots some wild personalities, but it's also the style

479
00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:25,279
of play. We've seen three Coin on, you know, hundreds

480
00:23:25,319 --> 00:23:28,680
of different cash games, just a crazy maniac. We've seen

481
00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:32,319
Grinder doing this thing at the main event. Like it's

482
00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:36,839
just a clash of personalities, a clash of styles. You know. Well,

483
00:23:36,839 --> 00:23:39,000
if we're talking about outfits, we've got three Coin with

484
00:23:39,039 --> 00:23:41,400
all his stuff. We got Grinder with seventeen patches on,

485
00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:45,480
you know. Like it's to me, was the best, the

486
00:23:45,559 --> 00:23:48,319
best possible matchup that first round.

487
00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:51,920
Speaker 1: I wrote that one down. Yeah it is a very

488
00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:53,920
very good one. But I wrote down a backup as well.

489
00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:55,920
So I'll go with the backup because you picked that one.

490
00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:58,599
But I agree with that one is probably my number

491
00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:03,160
one pick. I'll with Alan Keating versus Sean Deep. I

492
00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:07,039
think that that's just incredible, you know, I mean, Sean

493
00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:12,039
Deep is the tournament professional, you know, one of the

494
00:24:12,039 --> 00:24:14,279
best in the world, if not the best, one of

495
00:24:14,279 --> 00:24:18,599
the best to ever do it. Alan Keating is wild,

496
00:24:19,039 --> 00:24:22,640
he'll gamble it up. He's fearless, you know. So, But

497
00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:24,839
I also think, you know, Sean is very fearless in

498
00:24:24,839 --> 00:24:27,079
a lot of ways. So maybe Sean is a bit

499
00:24:27,079 --> 00:24:30,880
more technical than Alan Keating. The both these guys do

500
00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:34,400
have really big, colorful personalities. I think they're gonna have

501
00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:36,920
a lot of fun. I also think that the clash

502
00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:40,480
of styles is going to be very interesting here. So

503
00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:44,160
that's one that that I'm I'm very much looking forward to.

504
00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:47,039
And it's it's in the same part of the bracket,

505
00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:51,920
the Diamonds as yours. So yeah, I think it'll be

506
00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:54,680
hard for production to pick which will be like the

507
00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:57,160
main feature, you know, because one match is always like

508
00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:01,960
that main feature, but that one is very good. Some

509
00:25:02,319 --> 00:25:07,599
other some other matchups from that Diamonds portion of the bracket.

510
00:25:07,599 --> 00:25:11,480
You have Kevin Pollock versus live Bury. We talked about

511
00:25:11,559 --> 00:25:14,599
Keating versus deeb. You have Chris Moneymaker versus Igor Kirganov.

512
00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:18,839
Schwan Lu takes on Doug Polk, Dan Cats takes on

513
00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:23,480
Charlie Hook Victoria Liveshits versus David Williams, and David Williams

514
00:25:23,519 --> 00:25:27,440
has an interesting stat he's what one of three people want.

515
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:31,640
Speaker 2: Of three people to play all nine seasons, who are

516
00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:34,720
the other two? Can you guess? Hm?

517
00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:36,039
Speaker 1: When did they start again?

518
00:25:36,559 --> 00:25:40,319
Speaker 2: Two? Three? No?

519
00:25:41,079 --> 00:25:46,000
Speaker 1: Chris Moneymaker correct, yes, as long as as long as

520
00:25:46,039 --> 00:25:48,079
they started after Chris Moneymaker won the main event.

521
00:25:48,079 --> 00:25:52,279
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, is the other one has to

522
00:25:52,279 --> 00:25:52,559
be made?

523
00:25:52,839 --> 00:25:54,680
Speaker 1: Let me let me let me say this for the viewers,

524
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:59,640
and sorry if I'm upsetting everyone, but this year there's

525
00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:01,480
no I you know, in to Grande, no helm. Yeah,

526
00:26:01,519 --> 00:26:04,559
scheduling conflicts for all three of them. And when people

527
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,319
bitching complaints, say why didn't you guys get them? They

528
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:10,000
trust me. They were the first three people we called. Okay, like,

529
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:13,200
just trust us. We're not that dumb. Okay, come on,

530
00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:15,240
give us a little bit of credit here. First three

531
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:18,079
people we called and you know, all turned it down

532
00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:19,599
for various scheduling reasons.

533
00:26:19,599 --> 00:26:20,359
Speaker 2: So there's that.

534
00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:22,680
Speaker 1: Okay, So don't go saying, oh, you guys didn't get

535
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:25,759
these people. Trust us, Okay, they were the first three

536
00:26:25,799 --> 00:26:27,920
on the list. No, I know that that, so I'm

537
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:28,599
not going to guess them.

538
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:33,119
Speaker 2: Obviously, they obviously had to play this year. Eric said,

539
00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:36,960
oh they boom that. Speaking of some of those names

540
00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:41,839
you did mention they have played nearly every year. Some

541
00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:44,200
of the other guys who have played eight seasons, Hu say,

542
00:26:44,319 --> 00:26:47,559
Barry Green, Seined Doo Bronson Blavy, Phil Lock, Antonio s.

543
00:26:47,599 --> 00:26:51,920
Frondiri also was I believe invited but couldn't make it right.

544
00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:56,400
I just know about the big three, Eric Linger and

545
00:26:56,519 --> 00:26:59,440
Greg rayma Elie Elizra, Mike Mattis, how they was some

546
00:26:59,519 --> 00:27:03,440
of the Yeah, they were ones that couldn't get to

547
00:27:03,519 --> 00:27:07,119
the ninth. But one matchup I thought was pretty interesting

548
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:11,480
was over here, I'm going to run over the spades bracket, Okay,

549
00:27:12,039 --> 00:27:15,920
Casey Mills pokemonma versus Sa Taylor. Yeah, you know, it's

550
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:19,400
good to have women represented here in the National Heads

551
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:23,160
Up Championship. Now over the last all, this are the

552
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:27,480
nine season. Of all nine seasons, this was the sixth

553
00:27:27,519 --> 00:27:32,400
time two girls have two ladies faced off. So yeah,

554
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:34,640
good to see that. Good to see if you you know,

555
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:38,839
potential main event champion matchups, you know, brewing, depending how

556
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:40,839
things go, that's always something to watch. Out for but

557
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:44,200
I thought it was I thought it was a decent

558
00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:46,200
sixty four. It's not like like you said, we didn't

559
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:49,440
get run an ivy, But it's hard to get everyone here,

560
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:51,680
get people to put up twenty five k, get all

561
00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:54,920
their schedules put together. So for what we had to

562
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,279
kind of do with the time we had, I thought,

563
00:27:58,279 --> 00:28:00,000
you know, it wasn't it wasn't terrible at all.

564
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:02,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, just quickly on the women that played you mentioned

565
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:06,240
Casey Lynn Mills aka Poke Omama Esther, Taylor E t

566
00:28:06,559 --> 00:28:10,279
is in there, Maria Kanakhova is in there. Who else?

567
00:28:10,319 --> 00:28:12,079
Speaker 2: We got Christy Foxon.

568
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:14,359
Speaker 1: At Christy Foxon, we got Victoria Liftchits who I already

569
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:18,599
mentioned we had Lived Very three as well, and Schwanlu.

570
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:22,920
So that's that's I mean, that's a good number of women. Yeah,

571
00:28:23,079 --> 00:28:25,079
don't know what Maria Hoe was doing. Would have loved

572
00:28:25,079 --> 00:28:26,599
this scene or in this, but I don't know what

573
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:31,400
she's doing. But yeah, all right, toughest first round matchup?

574
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:35,359
Toughest I mean, like, okay, when when per player A

575
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:39,720
knows that they're playing player B, basically they would say, like,

576
00:28:39,839 --> 00:28:41,720
on a scale of one to ten, how tough is

577
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:45,160
my opponent? Right, combined with when player B looks at

578
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:47,880
player A like, so it's like both of them the

579
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,400
average right, because because it might be like, you know,

580
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:54,039
if it's Sean de versus me Sean Deep, I might

581
00:28:54,039 --> 00:28:56,039
think that's very tough, but Sean Deep doesn't think it tough,

582
00:28:56,079 --> 00:28:57,799
so it lowers the average, right. So that's what I'm

583
00:28:57,799 --> 00:28:58,480
going for here.

584
00:28:59,119 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 2: I we're going to disagree here, which is fine.

585
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:05,759
Speaker 1: Great love it can't wait. Who are you gonna pick something?

586
00:29:05,799 --> 00:29:11,680
You're gonna pick something absurd. You're gonna pick side Alan Roble.

587
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:12,720
Speaker 2: That was on the list.

588
00:29:13,799 --> 00:29:14,519
Speaker 1: That's legitimate.

589
00:29:14,599 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's I think it's Jesse Linus Kristen Foxon for

590
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:21,279
for a couple of different reasons. Obviously, there's a lot

591
00:29:21,319 --> 00:29:24,400
of you know, a lot of experiences to have played

592
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:27,200
against each other. Right here in the studio, When Chrissy

593
00:29:27,279 --> 00:29:31,400
sees Jesse, right, she's thinking, well, this is not the

594
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:34,480
standard gto guy. This is helmet. This is a crazy

595
00:29:34,519 --> 00:29:36,799
guy who believes in angels and gorillas and all these

596
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:39,000
kinds of things. So it's a tough opponent. She would

597
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:42,519
probably rather face a Sam Soever, you know, or a

598
00:29:42,519 --> 00:29:46,160
Sean Winter or Jason Kuhn. Now Jesse is looking at

599
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:48,400
christ yep. She's one of the best players in the world,

600
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:50,960
one of the best female players in the world, and

601
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:54,359
there's a lot of pressure on him to also beat

602
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:56,640
her and advance the next round. So I think there's

603
00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:59,079
a little bit more in that matchup than just like

604
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:01,839
this guys really good, this lady's really good. I think

605
00:30:01,839 --> 00:30:03,799
there's a little bit more to that one. And obviously

606
00:30:04,079 --> 00:30:07,279
they're both you know, top of the world right now.

607
00:30:07,319 --> 00:30:11,640
So that's my that's my toughest matchup, but there's definitely

608
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:12,920
a few more you could choose from here.

609
00:30:13,599 --> 00:30:17,480
Speaker 1: I picked Sam's overroll versus Jonathan Jaffee. Ye. I think

610
00:30:17,519 --> 00:30:21,799
those guys are very, very, very good players. I know

611
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:24,839
that this structure is made for TV structure, it's a

612
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:28,319
bit faster, yes, but I think both of these guys

613
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:32,759
are very very good and very well studied that they're

614
00:30:32,759 --> 00:30:35,640
going to be able to adapt the structure heading in. So,

615
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:37,519
you know, I don't think anyone's going to have any

616
00:30:37,519 --> 00:30:39,839
sort of advantage because they can adapt to the structure

617
00:30:39,839 --> 00:30:42,119
better than the other person in this spot. You know,

618
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:44,680
if I'm Sam's overroll, I don't want to draw John

619
00:30:44,759 --> 00:30:46,839
Jaffee from this field. If I'm John Jaffe, I don't

620
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:48,839
want to draw Sam's overroll from this field, you know.

621
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:51,319
So that's that's a really really good one. I mentioned

622
00:30:51,359 --> 00:30:54,319
the side al and Robo one. Another tough one, just

623
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:58,000
quickly scrolling through. How about Brian Rast and Renlin? You know,

624
00:30:58,359 --> 00:31:00,599
I know Renlin is kind of a joke exter a lot,

625
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:03,480
but still a very good player. I think Eric Linger

626
00:31:03,559 --> 00:31:07,000
and Jason Kuhn is like sneaky tough. I mean e Dogg.

627
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:08,839
I know, you know you might say, like he's not

628
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:12,640
Jason Kuhn, Yes, okay, but Eatogg very very good. Yeah, right,

629
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:16,519
has that old school type of player in him, but

630
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:19,799
is still around doing successful things in poker. So you know,

631
00:31:19,839 --> 00:31:21,480
if I'm Jason Kuhn, I'm not like this is no

632
00:31:21,559 --> 00:31:24,079
walk in the park. Eat dog is a very good player. Also,

633
00:31:24,319 --> 00:31:26,720
if you're Jason Kuhn, you know that Eric Lingern has

634
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:29,839
played this event before, and I mean you did the

635
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:32,880
structure stuff. It's not like wildly different or anything from

636
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:35,079
from past year. So you know, I think Eric Linger

637
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:37,799
knows like kind of what to expect, right, So I

638
00:31:37,839 --> 00:31:39,559
think that that's an interesting matchup there.

639
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:42,279
Speaker 2: Another interesting one to me is Mike Madison saving Childwick.

640
00:31:43,319 --> 00:31:45,359
La think of Mike Madis, how he's not Steven Chitwick,

641
00:31:45,559 --> 00:31:47,720
true Savin Chidwick, like I said, one of the best

642
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:51,319
players in the world, very studied, you know, maybe the

643
00:31:51,359 --> 00:31:54,680
most perfect poker player out there. Mike Madison a little

644
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:56,920
bit of a feel. But you have to remember, this

645
00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:59,359
guy's gonna fight for the last chip, and he is

646
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:04,599
also the defending champion. You know, obviously we're gonna wind

647
00:32:04,599 --> 00:32:07,759
it back to twenty thirteen when he defeated Phil helm

648
00:32:07,759 --> 00:32:10,480
With to win the eighth season of the National Heads

649
00:32:10,519 --> 00:32:13,000
Up Championship. But like you got to think about that,

650
00:32:13,319 --> 00:32:16,319
you know, defending champion's gonna five for every chip. You know,

651
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:19,359
even though he's taken on saving Shiitdwick, that that matchup

652
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:22,240
is is probably gonna be pretty tough for both players.

653
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 1: You know, Yeah, I think Swan Louvers Doug Polk is

654
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:27,279
a pretty tough matchup for both of those players. One

655
00:32:27,319 --> 00:32:29,279
thing that I wanted to point out justin Gafriy Drew

656
00:32:29,359 --> 00:32:33,240
john Smith. So the John Smith Johns he heads up

657
00:32:33,319 --> 00:32:34,240
poker legend.

658
00:32:34,319 --> 00:32:37,839
Speaker 2: Gavrey loses again, good luck, it's John Smith john Smith

659
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:39,720
cont loose heads up.

660
00:32:39,839 --> 00:32:42,880
Speaker 1: I mean, I thought it was cool when Justin Gavriy

661
00:32:43,079 --> 00:32:47,599
drew John Smith. And even though Justin Gavriy isn't like

662
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,920
he hasn't isn't someone who's been around like the poker

663
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:52,599
scene like a lot of these guys have for as

664
00:32:52,599 --> 00:32:55,960
long as these guys have, but he he knew who

665
00:32:56,039 --> 00:32:58,440
John Smith was. He's like, I got a battle this legend.

666
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:00,720
The guy's iconic, like all this sort of like he

667
00:33:00,799 --> 00:33:03,319
knows the legend of John Smith, which I thought was

668
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:06,759
very cool. So, you know, John Smith, we got him

669
00:33:06,759 --> 00:33:09,880
in this thing. You know, he was kind of a

670
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:14,000
bit of a I don't know, needle and a haystack

671
00:33:14,039 --> 00:33:16,119
type of guy. Like trying to contact him, it's like

672
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:18,279
shot in the dark, you know, and we got ahold

673
00:33:18,319 --> 00:33:20,599
of him. So he's out here playing. So you know,

674
00:33:20,599 --> 00:33:25,160
I think that's very cool as well. Easiest bracket, easiest

675
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:27,839
quadrant of the bracket.

676
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:30,119
Speaker 2: To me, it was spades, you know.

677
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 1: I look, I mean that's mine too.

678
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:33,279
Speaker 2: You look at some of the names that you know,

679
00:33:33,359 --> 00:33:35,079
no offense of these guys, if they listening.

680
00:33:34,839 --> 00:33:39,079
Speaker 1: To defense, offense call him, we'll.

681
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 2: Call him VIPs, We'll call him Wales. But I'm gonna

682
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:43,680
lead with Boston Robb Love the guy, not the best

683
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:46,720
bucket player, Rob Brig. I'm not shure how much bucker

684
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:48,640
he's played. He's off making Hollywood movies.

685
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 1: I have, like somebody like Rob wriggle right, a Hollywood

686
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:55,240
actor like I I have. You could tell me he

687
00:33:55,279 --> 00:33:57,279
plays a home game three times a week and he's

688
00:33:57,359 --> 00:33:58,119
very seasoned.

689
00:33:58,279 --> 00:33:58,519
Speaker 2: You know.

690
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:01,720
Speaker 1: Maybe he's not a Jason Komb, but he you know,

691
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:05,640
is no fish out of water, right. So, but he

692
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:07,599
could also just like have never picked up cards before.

693
00:34:07,799 --> 00:34:09,440
The only reason I say that is because I've been

694
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:12,159
around poker long enough. I've been I've seen plenty of

695
00:34:12,199 --> 00:34:15,280
these made for TV shows where there have been times

696
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:18,280
when like literally a celebrity shows up and does not

697
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:20,920
know the game, but they're they're there like for the

698
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:23,440
appearance to get on TV, like all that sort of stuff. So,

699
00:34:23,679 --> 00:34:26,239
I mean, I have no idea what these with these

700
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:27,559
celebrities bring to the table.

701
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:31,679
Speaker 2: Throwing Phil Heelma's best friend Jason Calacanis. And it's not

702
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:34,840
just the VP. If we talk about the super pros,

703
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:40,599
the superpros in the Spades bracket much less accomplished than

704
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:43,199
the superpris and the other brackets. So that's why to

705
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:47,039
May Spades definitely the softest of them all, but you

706
00:34:47,039 --> 00:34:50,840
know they're also fairly close. Yeah, so I agree with you.

707
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:54,079
There the toughest bracket, I think it's someone who kind

708
00:34:54,079 --> 00:34:56,519
of touched on with Sam Sarvo and Jonathan Jaffey. That's Clubs.

709
00:34:56,559 --> 00:34:58,559
You know, you agree again, Yeah, if you map some

710
00:34:58,639 --> 00:35:01,440
of these matchups out, you know you can have Kuhn

711
00:35:01,559 --> 00:35:05,119
versus Chino facing several versus Winter winner of that obviously

712
00:35:05,159 --> 00:35:07,599
taking out Brian Rass Rainley, and that's tough. You've got

713
00:35:07,639 --> 00:35:10,559
Mats Salisburg, Johnny Vibes, you know, you got Phil Lack

714
00:35:10,559 --> 00:35:14,280
in there, You've got Nacho Barbero. You know, this is

715
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:17,360
the toughest bracket and un lucky for I don't think

716
00:35:17,519 --> 00:35:17,880
I don't.

717
00:35:18,159 --> 00:35:19,960
Speaker 1: I'm not sure how many people out there will know

718
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:22,320
Brazil God Luis rhythms prisonhole.

719
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:24,519
Speaker 2: But I mean he's not just going to roll over.

720
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:26,440
He knows what he's doing.

721
00:35:26,599 --> 00:35:29,199
Speaker 1: You may classify him more as like a VIP than

722
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:33,039
a professional poker player, but I mean he's played enough,

723
00:35:33,199 --> 00:35:34,960
cash game, has been on TV enough, all that sort

724
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:36,760
of stuff that he's doing.

725
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:39,199
Speaker 2: He's played a lot of a lot of cash games

726
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:41,920
on TV and to say the soft spot. So you

727
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:45,880
know in this in this jord Nick right, guys Battlefield

728
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:48,039
Helm with her in High Stake. Seel played a bunch

729
00:35:48,079 --> 00:35:50,320
of World Series events. He's played on Poker Off the Dark.

730
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:53,360
He loves poker. He's commentated on the World Series of

731
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:57,400
Poker main event. He's not you know, whether you think

732
00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:01,119
he's a VIP or a fish. He's got poka chops.

733
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:03,519
You know, I saw like even the so called soft

734
00:36:03,559 --> 00:36:06,559
spot is not soft in this in this uh side

735
00:36:06,599 --> 00:36:07,360
of the bracket at all.

736
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:10,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, you got Matt Solsberg versus Johnny Vibes. I saw

737
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:13,079
Johnny Vibes put on social media that he got he

738
00:36:13,159 --> 00:36:16,599
got some heads of coaching from somebody heading into this one.

739
00:36:16,639 --> 00:36:20,199
Speaker 2: I've uhev Is that his name?

740
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:24,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know exactly who he is. He's played PGT events.

741
00:36:24,159 --> 00:36:27,320
What's Madanziev.

742
00:36:29,159 --> 00:36:31,599
Speaker 2: The World Champ, the World Champ, the World the World.

743
00:36:31,559 --> 00:36:34,599
Speaker 1: The World stoy On Madanziev Madanjiev.

744
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:36,519
Speaker 2: That's not a way you say it.

745
00:36:36,679 --> 00:36:38,440
Speaker 1: I'm one hundred percent butchering it. But I did have

746
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:40,840
to commentate on tables and I'm pretty sure it's like

747
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:44,480
madonjev or something something like that. But you know, I apologize,

748
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:47,400
but I think he put out there that like, hey,

749
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:49,719
you know, if anyone needs it, I've done this, this

750
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:51,000
and this, and it comes to heads up. And I

751
00:36:51,039 --> 00:36:54,000
think Johnny Vibes linked up with him to get some coaching,

752
00:36:54,199 --> 00:36:55,880
not that this isn't is an event you should be

753
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:58,559
getting coaching for, mister Johnny vibe Like, what do you

754
00:36:59,039 --> 00:37:03,960
I don't know. I feel like that's what twenty I

755
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:06,599
just feel like that's one of those read the room

756
00:37:06,639 --> 00:37:07,320
type of things.

757
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:10,679
Speaker 2: No, Like, I like, because take the edge when you can.

758
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:13,480
Here's why I would not want.

759
00:37:13,519 --> 00:37:18,199
Speaker 1: A celebrity or a VIP to get word that the

760
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:20,039
pros pros.

761
00:37:20,079 --> 00:37:21,519
Speaker 2: I mean, I know Johnny Vibes is like.

762
00:37:22,079 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 1: He's I think he's I think he's a pro, but

763
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:25,920
he's like he's also like a content creator. You know,

764
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:29,719
he's an entrepreneur, et cetera. He's probably like, what seventy

765
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:32,559
percent poker pro, eighty percent poker pro. You know, I'm

766
00:37:32,559 --> 00:37:35,719
just saying it's not one hundred zero. But anyway, are

767
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:39,440
getting coaching like this and making it harder for you

768
00:37:40,679 --> 00:37:44,199
when you're already likely at a disadvantage anyway, you know,

769
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:45,719
you know what I mean, Like I think these.

770
00:37:45,599 --> 00:37:48,320
Speaker 2: Guys are accepting the state or putting the money out.

771
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:48,760
I don't know.

772
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm just saying. I'm just saying, like I.

773
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:55,719
Speaker 2: Don't Does that mean like the they can't get coaching themselves?

774
00:37:56,079 --> 00:37:58,039
Speaker 1: No, you can, but like you don't always have that

775
00:37:58,119 --> 00:38:01,079
same sort of access to those people because you're not

776
00:38:01,119 --> 00:38:04,039
in the space, Like it's just not as easy, right,

777
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:07,760
Like I don't think Kevin Pollock is grinding his social

778
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:10,639
media accounts and he sees story on post post this

779
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:12,639
and then he hits him up with the DM Like

780
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:16,360
I just don't think that's happening, you know. But maybe maybe,

781
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:18,880
like I'm just using Kevin Pollack as an example, Like

782
00:38:19,119 --> 00:38:21,960
maybe he is like, well, these guys are doing everything,

783
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:24,840
Like you know, I don't know. I feel like I

784
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:28,639
feel like the pros are already good enough, but they don't.

785
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:30,400
Speaker 2: Need the extra You got to take every EV spot.

786
00:38:30,559 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 1: No, not not in this ws P twenty five K

787
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:35,440
heads up, take all the F and EV you.

788
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:38,599
Speaker 2: Want, okay, Like in this are the same event made

789
00:38:38,599 --> 00:38:41,039
for TV. I think all the pro I think all

790
00:38:41,079 --> 00:38:43,840
the blind the first hand that's what I think.

791
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:45,519
Speaker 1: That's just I'm joking.

792
00:38:45,559 --> 00:38:49,280
Speaker 2: Of course, I would have you know what, in a

793
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:52,000
perfect world, maybe you want agree with me. Perfect world

794
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:57,119
in this we say, you know, the red side, all pros,

795
00:38:58,119 --> 00:38:59,960
black side of the bracket, the space and the club,

796
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:05,119
all vipas, all celebrities, all satellite entrants, so that when

797
00:39:05,159 --> 00:39:07,360
we get into the final, we get one on one.

798
00:39:07,679 --> 00:39:10,719
Speaker 1: Okay, So here's here's something. Here's something I thought about

799
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:13,480
because I know there was a lot of obviously, the

800
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:15,960
the list gets out there, when the brackets get out there,

801
00:39:16,039 --> 00:39:18,320
you know, the matchups, and everyone's commenting, like you know,

802
00:39:19,159 --> 00:39:21,880
there's there's one part of you know, the community that's like,

803
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:23,039
how come I wasn't invited?

804
00:39:23,119 --> 00:39:23,320
Speaker 2: Yeah?

805
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:25,360
Speaker 1: Right, there's the other part of the community was like

806
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:27,519
where's this person, where's this person, where's this person? Where's

807
00:39:27,519 --> 00:39:29,039
that person? How did this person get? Like all this

808
00:39:29,079 --> 00:39:32,639
sort of stuff, right, you know. So anyway, one thing

809
00:39:32,679 --> 00:39:35,559
that I was thinking of, are there do you think

810
00:39:35,599 --> 00:39:39,920
that there are sixteen non professionals that's all because like

811
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:42,360
it's celebrity, it's a VIP's or whatever, like so non

812
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:44,400
professional book per do you think there are sixteen in

813
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:49,400
this field? Like I'm talking like the Jason Calacanis, Richard Seymour.

814
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:52,519
I mean, let's just go through Richard Seymour. What's what's Jasper?

815
00:39:52,559 --> 00:39:55,840
I mean he plays enough, he plays Stalen Flashner. We

816
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:58,960
go Calacanis and Simo to not flash place. But he's

817
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:00,840
a Hollywood, he's a We're produced.

818
00:40:01,559 --> 00:40:04,800
Speaker 2: Okay, Rob Riggle, Paul Boston rock five five?

819
00:40:05,639 --> 00:40:06,639
Speaker 1: What about this next one?

820
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:09,800
Speaker 2: Just Nick Riot? Nick, you could Matt Bracket is so

821
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:13,760
hard you could maybe count Ryan Feldman, but I don't

822
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:15,559
know if you can't. Okay, So we're stay six there,

823
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:19,679
Bryce Hall, you have any where? Do we think of

824
00:40:19,679 --> 00:40:22,960
any one? Now? I would count him as like I would.

825
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:25,360
We'll count this exercise. T J.

826
00:40:25,519 --> 00:40:29,360
Speaker 1: Lavin for sure, Philip Franklinlee Chef, Philip Frankly, Lily for sure.

827
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:35,440
Speaker 2: That's it there. Kevin Pollack, yes, probably Charlie Hook like that.

828
00:40:35,519 --> 00:40:38,639
He's another fringe on. I would probably just putting him in.

829
00:40:39,559 --> 00:40:42,440
Speaker 1: So we're at like what eleven. Here's here's what I'm saying,

830
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:47,239
because I feel like there was enough, There's enough people

831
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:52,079
out there that voiced wanting to potentially play, and I'm

832
00:40:52,079 --> 00:40:54,159
not just going to give into the mob but for

833
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:58,880
this exercise, what if you did you took the sixteen

834
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:02,599
non profess and you just put them aside, all sixteen

835
00:41:02,639 --> 00:41:05,400
of them, and then you start. You had a field

836
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:08,320
of sixty four of all pros and they played down

837
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:12,559
to sixteen, and then you combine, so you're essentially you're

838
00:41:12,639 --> 00:41:15,880
essentially getting an eighty player field, which allows you to

839
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:17,880
get more people that think they might have gotten in

840
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:21,280
or that the fans wanted in, right, but then the

841
00:41:21,519 --> 00:41:24,360
the VIPs and whatever basically get fast tracked.

842
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:25,239
Speaker 2: But they're in the money.

843
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:27,360
Speaker 1: No, it's not in the money because you're still thirty

844
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:29,199
two players to win one. I think I think it

845
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:32,159
might be win one match. Yeah, but they're who cares?

846
00:41:32,559 --> 00:41:34,000
We could do this made for TV. Know, we can

847
00:41:34,039 --> 00:41:35,920
do whatever we want. We can put them in the

848
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:36,800
money if we want to.

849
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:39,760
Speaker 2: I don't hate your idea at all, but I think

850
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:41,880
i'd still prefer them being on one side of the break.

851
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:45,440
Speaker 1: I also want to say quickly that this idea, along

852
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:47,840
with the idea that I was talking about last time

853
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:50,159
with like the time extensions and whatever, you know what

854
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:52,480
you know, I got this sort of exercise from listening

855
00:41:52,519 --> 00:41:54,920
to the Bill Simmons podcast and the half baked ideas

856
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:57,719
that he's like, this is not a fully baked idea.

857
00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:00,000
This is not something that I like, I'm like, yeah,

858
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:01,880
we should a hundred percent do this. It's just something

859
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:03,760
that I thought about. And now I'm having the thought

860
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:06,960
exercise with you. Like, so I'm just saying, like that

861
00:42:07,559 --> 00:42:09,079
that's a way that we can make the field bigger,

862
00:42:09,079 --> 00:42:11,239
because you can't really go You and I both know

863
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:13,159
we can't go from sixty four to one to twenty eight,

864
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:15,679
even if we think that we could get one hundred

865
00:42:15,679 --> 00:42:17,920
and twenty eight with how many people voice all their stuff, like,

866
00:42:18,119 --> 00:42:20,599
that's just it. It's like an extra two days of play,

867
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:23,920
Like it's just it's so ridiculous. Everything is so expensive.

868
00:42:24,159 --> 00:42:27,920
Can you really say, hey, Kevin Pollock, come take five

869
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:29,760
days off your life, Like it's hard enough to get

870
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:32,199
these guys take two or three days off their lives, right.

871
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:34,719
Speaker 2: I think that you know, you can have your pros

872
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:36,440
that you really want to. You know, there's certain people

873
00:42:36,519 --> 00:42:39,119
we definitely wanted to play this event, you know, like

874
00:42:39,159 --> 00:42:41,639
you talk about the Negronos, the Helmless, the Ivis. You know,

875
00:42:41,679 --> 00:42:44,480
we definitely want some of these vfps. And then you know,

876
00:42:44,519 --> 00:42:47,119
there's gonna be whatever we'll call it, say, sixteen spots

877
00:42:47,159 --> 00:42:49,559
that are like very pro heavy. I think there's a

878
00:42:49,599 --> 00:42:52,519
world where you could do that could be a plan.

879
00:42:53,159 --> 00:42:55,000
You could do a plane in an Aria or somewhere

880
00:42:55,039 --> 00:42:58,440
else where. You know, you're you know, all of these

881
00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:00,719
pros want to play. You know, I'm getting dms. You've

882
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:03,239
got some Brandon Hankscott some you know why and I

883
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:05,440
in and you know why couldn't I play here? Can

884
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:07,840
I get on the list? You know, get them to

885
00:43:08,079 --> 00:43:10,559
you know, you want to play play down, you know,

886
00:43:10,639 --> 00:43:13,760
play down to the to you know, from whatever it is,

887
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:16,079
thirty two to eight or thirty two to sixteen and

888
00:43:16,159 --> 00:43:18,239
qualify to getting this eventy if you.

889
00:43:18,159 --> 00:43:21,800
Speaker 1: Want me along those lines. So two things. One they

890
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:23,559
used to do. They used to do a satellite to

891
00:43:23,599 --> 00:43:26,679
this tournament. We definitely because that's how Justin Young got

892
00:43:26,679 --> 00:43:29,199
an invite this year. Somebody dropped out later I can't

893
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:30,719
remember who, but Justin Young got the call.

894
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:31,119
Speaker 2: He was in.

895
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:34,960
Speaker 1: But he talked about on the Table one podcast a

896
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:37,440
few episodes ago. By the way, Table one podcast is

897
00:43:37,599 --> 00:43:39,480
I listened to that freaking thing religiously.

898
00:43:39,519 --> 00:43:40,079
Speaker 2: It is great.

899
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:43,519
Speaker 1: I'm about seventy percent of the way through the last

900
00:43:43,519 --> 00:43:46,719
one with your boy Adam Hendricks. Justin Young when he

901
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:49,400
first played it, he won a satellite, he got heads

902
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:51,119
up with the guy. The guy didn't want it, so

903
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:53,360
Justin basically bought the seat from the guy for cheaper.

904
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 2: So whatever.

905
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:56,760
Speaker 1: Another thing that that makes me think of this Remember

906
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:59,079
the Epic Poker League. Yeah, they used to have like

907
00:43:59,159 --> 00:44:04,320
that pro am right before, but like the winner of

908
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:06,840
the pro am also got into the big one, which

909
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:08,519
was like a closed event. Like you had to like

910
00:44:08,599 --> 00:44:10,639
have these certain credentials and stuff like that. You had

911
00:44:10,639 --> 00:44:13,280
to basically be like a certain type of player enough

912
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:16,119
earnings whatever to have the right to buy in, right,

913
00:44:16,599 --> 00:44:18,599
but if you won the pro am as well, you

914
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:20,719
like got in. So like what if there was just

915
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:22,920
like generally like a satellite or like you said, like

916
00:44:23,039 --> 00:44:25,840
a smaller bracket or whatever it is, and then that

917
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:28,599
person wins in. You know, like I think that would

918
00:44:28,639 --> 00:44:31,079
be cool where you know, yeah, if people out there,

919
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:33,199
the pros that think they got snubbed, if they want

920
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:35,440
to come play the satellite, great, but also people like

921
00:44:35,519 --> 00:44:37,400
let's say you and I want a fire and try

922
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:39,320
and get in. I think that that just creates a

923
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:41,719
cool story. So like I would, I would almost reserve

924
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:44,840
like one seat for like a qualifier and just be like, hey,

925
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:47,440
you know, this is what's going to be done. So

926
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:49,119
so yeah, I don't know. Again, just just kind of

927
00:44:49,199 --> 00:44:51,280
kicking ideas around because I was thinking like, how could

928
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:53,199
you expand the field? You can't really go to one

929
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:55,280
twenty eight for the reasons that we mentioned, but if

930
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:57,840
you did what I said, where you have sixty four

931
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:01,880
like pros and and then you have the sixteen VIPs

932
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:04,599
that basically get fast tracked to the front, you know,

933
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:07,320
that allows you to get up to eighty, which is nice,

934
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:10,480
a nice bump there. But you know, I'm just throwing

935
00:45:10,559 --> 00:45:15,079
throwing ideas around. So but overall, again, I thought the

936
00:45:15,159 --> 00:45:17,880
draw party went super well. I'm happy with how things

937
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:20,599
played out. I'm excited to see how it all comes together.

938
00:45:21,039 --> 00:45:23,800
I mean, I know Tim and I obviously we're privy

939
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:26,000
to being here and we watched it all play out.

940
00:45:26,079 --> 00:45:29,079
But it's it's one thing to watch things in person.

941
00:45:29,159 --> 00:45:31,880
It's another thing to just hitting my mic all over

942
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:34,480
the place. It's another thing to just sit at home

943
00:45:35,039 --> 00:45:38,239
on the couch and watch it on TV and watch

944
00:45:38,559 --> 00:45:41,360
the final product, right I mean the guys in the

945
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:42,800
back of the production team, they're going to cook up

946
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:43,559
their magic.

947
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:44,920
Speaker 2: I mean tell ten episodes.

948
00:45:45,159 --> 00:45:47,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I can see it, you know, I

949
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:49,119
mean there was I mean, we talked about some of

950
00:45:49,119 --> 00:45:53,000
these matchup. There's a lot of good stuff in here, right, so,

951
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:56,000
so yeah, you know, I think, all in all, I

952
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:58,440
think it was very cool. I thought the set was

953
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:01,440
freaking incredible. You might saw some of it through some

954
00:46:01,519 --> 00:46:03,639
of the social media videos, the photos or whatever that

955
00:46:03,639 --> 00:46:06,280
that went out from the draw party and whatnot, but

956
00:46:06,559 --> 00:46:10,639
the entire studio was, you know, done over all these

957
00:46:10,639 --> 00:46:12,880
small tables. This this table right here, this is one

958
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:14,639
of the tables that if you guys can see it

959
00:46:14,639 --> 00:46:16,559
in the video, this is one of the tables that

960
00:46:16,599 --> 00:46:18,719
Tim and I hijacked. You know, we talked to our

961
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:19,840
guy Justin and we said, hey.

962
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:20,960
Speaker 2: It's gonna be a podcast.

963
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:24,840
Speaker 1: We're gonna we're gonna refelt it. Yes, everything We're gonna

964
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:27,760
refelt in every uh every show. We're gonna play heads

965
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:30,119
up for one hundred dollars and we're just gonna we're

966
00:46:30,119 --> 00:46:32,840
gonna be We're gonna just gonna keep We're gonna keep playing. No,

967
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:35,719
just kidding, so yeah, so I'm excited to see how

968
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:38,400
it all plays out. The show is supposed to be back,

969
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:41,639
like meaning this isn't just a one off type of thing.

970
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:41,960
Speaker 2: Yeah.

971
00:46:42,519 --> 00:46:46,280
Speaker 1: I think some people might point to the fact that

972
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:50,000
we did that PGT Heads Up showdown, that China reim

973
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:51,800
one a couple of years ago, and then we like

974
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:55,480
never did it again. So you know, was that our

975
00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:00,360
you know, try at bringing this back. I mean maybe

976
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:02,400
I don't. I don't know exactly know, but whatever, but

977
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:03,559
that happened, it was a one time thing.

978
00:47:03,599 --> 00:47:03,840
Speaker 2: Whatever.

979
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:05,559
Speaker 1: I mean, this is back. You know, we're supposed to

980
00:47:05,599 --> 00:47:08,480
do it for multiple years. I know you've already been

981
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:11,800
thinking and kind of like soft planning for the next one.

982
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:14,360
So so yeah, I'm excited to see how this one

983
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:15,760
plays out. I'm excited to.

984
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:18,199
Speaker 2: You do have a good idea of bringing that PGT

985
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:20,800
hands up. Maybe it's like, let's say we're doing this,

986
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:23,960
you know, mach or Aprilnexia, you know, we bring the

987
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:24,639
heads up.

988
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:27,719
Speaker 1: You know, my idea with the PGT Heads Up Tournament.

989
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:31,039
But justly I think I think the PGT Heads Up

990
00:47:31,079 --> 00:47:34,519
Tournament should be this is another half baked idea, but

991
00:47:34,559 --> 00:47:37,239
this is probably more like three quarters big. You know

992
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:39,440
you're ready, like you could take it out and eat it,

993
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:40,559
but like and you wouldn't get sick.

994
00:47:40,599 --> 00:47:40,880
Speaker 2: Got it?

995
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:45,199
Speaker 1: That this should be like basically the PGTS in season

996
00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:48,800
tournament where we have the PGT leader board that you know,

997
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:53,559
so the top let's say thirty two get the right

998
00:47:53,599 --> 00:47:57,320
to play. So the top thirty two get invited and

999
00:47:57,360 --> 00:48:00,400
they can buy in. Now people might say, like why

1000
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:02,840
would they buy in, And I'll say, because if you're

1001
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:05,000
in the thirty two, the reason why you buy it,

1002
00:48:05,159 --> 00:48:06,840
like we could do a rake free for example, the

1003
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:09,239
reason that you bought you get to buy in is

1004
00:48:09,639 --> 00:48:13,239
you get a chance at bonus points. I've already written

1005
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:16,880
this and maybe and maybe this has been my idea

1006
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:18,079
and you and I have talked about it for a

1007
00:48:18,159 --> 00:48:21,159
long time, and maybe you just get a couple bonus points,

1008
00:48:21,199 --> 00:48:23,880
like let's say twenty if you just buy in, so

1009
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:25,760
like you just just buy in and play, you get

1010
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:28,840
some bonus points and then we just literally it's seated

1011
00:48:29,039 --> 00:48:32,119
one place thirty two too exactly. I know because you

1012
00:48:32,159 --> 00:48:34,960
and I've brought this idea up to you before, and

1013
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:36,920
you do it like at the halfway point of the

1014
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:39,599
season and it's a bonus lause.

1015
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:41,119
Speaker 2: You got points for entering.

1016
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:42,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly.

1017
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:44,159
Speaker 2: I mean, if you don't want your spot, everyone just

1018
00:48:44,199 --> 00:48:47,559
it just rolled down the PGT label. Yeah, thirty two,

1019
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:50,719
thirty three comes in. Yeah, but you get guaranteed points

1020
00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:52,079
and like, you know kind of.

1021
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:53,960
Speaker 1: Thing, and maybe it maybe listen, if it's too hard

1022
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:56,119
to get thirty two, you just roll with sixteen. Yeah,

1023
00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:59,159
and that's the like, and that incentivizes people like listen,

1024
00:48:59,199 --> 00:49:01,400
if I am in the top sixteen for the first

1025
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:04,320
half of the season, I get to play in this event.

1026
00:49:05,039 --> 00:49:06,760
And then that's you know, maybe you could even do

1027
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:10,239
it something where like somebody the winner of that tournament

1028
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:12,800
just gets fast tracked to the championship, Like, you know,

1029
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:14,880
we can play with it, but you know, that's what

1030
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:17,400
I think we should do. So I also think and

1031
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:19,079
I know I think I brought this up to you

1032
00:49:19,119 --> 00:49:21,280
while the National Heads of Poker Championship was happening the

1033
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:24,719
other day. Is that I am baffled. And this is

1034
00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:28,840
also on us, Like from the time Mike Madisow won

1035
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:31,599
it last till a couple of weeks ago when we

1036
00:49:31,639 --> 00:49:34,480
brought this back, how come no one tried to do this?

1037
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:37,760
It's not that complicated to do a heads up poker

1038
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:40,639
tournament made for TV. If you want to do thirty

1039
00:49:40,679 --> 00:49:43,159
two players, if you want to do sixty four, whatever

1040
00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:46,199
the heck, call it something different. Obviously you can't. We

1041
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:49,159
had we acquired this brand, okay, like we acquired the

1042
00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:52,119
National Heads Up Poker Championship brand from NBC. We now

1043
00:49:52,159 --> 00:49:53,920
own the brand, We owned all the past content, all

1044
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:56,239
the IP et cetera. But you didn't have to do that.

1045
00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:58,800
Like I think WPT could have done it, a w SUP,

1046
00:49:59,079 --> 00:50:01,480
like anyone could have done it, so one off person

1047
00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:03,480
could have just made it. I mean, like that was

1048
00:50:03,519 --> 00:50:08,079
such a big iconic show. It was so cool. Ratings

1049
00:50:08,079 --> 00:50:10,719
were great, Like like, so why can't I just bring

1050
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:13,599
that back? I just but that also is on us,

1051
00:50:13,639 --> 00:50:15,440
Like why didn't we also bring it back? And maybe

1052
00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:17,880
that was the try with the PGG Heads Up Showdown

1053
00:50:18,119 --> 00:50:19,880
because even though it was called the PGT Heads Up

1054
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:22,920
Showdown and technically wasn't a PGT event, which is very weird,

1055
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:25,119
you know, but that's on us, and maybe we should

1056
00:50:25,119 --> 00:50:27,719
have done it right, But I just find it kind

1057
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:30,199
of interesting that no one did it. It's like it's

1058
00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:32,880
almost like the National Head Up Poker Championship went away

1059
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:36,199
when NBC no longer was doing it, and everyone kind

1060
00:50:36,199 --> 00:50:37,840
of thought, oh, that's sacred ground, we don't want to

1061
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:41,599
touch it, when it probably would have been great. But anyway,

1062
00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:44,880
that's that. So National Head Up Poker Championship. You guys

1063
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:48,119
can stay tuned to well this podcast, social media channels

1064
00:50:48,159 --> 00:50:50,920
whatever as things start coming out. When this is going

1065
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:53,239
to air, which I believe it's supposed to be in

1066
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:55,880
a couple of months, we'll put the word out. We'll

1067
00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:58,280
let you guys know, maybe we'll do some kind of

1068
00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:00,639
watch alongs or recap pop or whatever.

1069
00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:00,920
Speaker 2: You know.

1070
00:51:01,079 --> 00:51:04,280
Speaker 1: I'm excited to watch it through see how everything played

1071
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:06,480
out on the screen. And I hope you guys are

1072
00:51:06,639 --> 00:51:07,559
as well.

1073
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:10,199
Speaker 2: And reminded new season every Monday.

1074
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:14,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm I mean, it's great old content. It's it's

1075
00:51:14,519 --> 00:51:19,599
nostalgia just through and through Club WPT Gold. So they

1076
00:51:19,679 --> 00:51:23,360
rolled out this update recently, which this was a couple

1077
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:25,679
of days ago. Is this still on? Like they have

1078
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:28,400
not canceled this? Right, you're the one who plays on

1079
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:29,320
Club WUT Gold.

1080
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:32,360
Speaker 2: I tell me this week and I cannot confront what

1081
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:34,519
den I if I've used this function, you for sure

1082
00:51:34,599 --> 00:51:34,840
use it.

1083
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:38,000
Speaker 1: So basically what you can do is at the end

1084
00:51:38,039 --> 00:51:40,360
of a hand in a cash game, right or is

1085
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:43,679
it also okay only cash games which I'm not even

1086
00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:46,679
sure if they're called cash games, ring game, ring game,

1087
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:49,960
okay ring games. Because this is a sweepsteakes poker site.

1088
00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:54,880
You can pay some sort of money, which I'm assuming

1089
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:57,760
is like some sort of big blinds in relation to

1090
00:51:57,800 --> 00:52:01,400
like the limits that you're playing small one and you

1091
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:05,079
can reveal like the folded cards at the table, which

1092
00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:09,239
seems like the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen, very fishy.

1093
00:52:09,639 --> 00:52:12,119
I saw this news get dropped and I was like,

1094
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:16,960
my first thought was like, is this I like triple

1095
00:52:17,039 --> 00:52:19,159
check to the account. I'm like, is this like one

1096
00:52:19,159 --> 00:52:21,480
of those like fake accounts that somebody's like, you know,

1097
00:52:21,559 --> 00:52:23,280
one of these people on social media that always have

1098
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:25,280
fun with people and create memes and whatever, like, are

1099
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:27,400
they just like making fun of this sort of stuff?

1100
00:52:27,639 --> 00:52:30,320
Like this seems like the most ridiculous update. I mean,

1101
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:32,559
you have Doug Polk criticized it in a video. He's

1102
00:52:32,599 --> 00:52:34,880
an ambassador for them. You know, he's got he's got

1103
00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:37,119
code dug everywhere, like hey sign up for club to

1104
00:52:37,159 --> 00:52:40,320
WPT goal. But also this is ridiculous. You got Matt

1105
00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:43,079
Burkey saying that this is actually sick. You got Brian

1106
00:52:43,199 --> 00:52:45,360
Rass saying this is one of the worst ideas I've

1107
00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:49,000
ever heard in poker. Sean Deep in standard Sean Deep

1108
00:52:49,079 --> 00:52:52,880
just one sentence word Salad Fashion on social media said,

1109
00:52:53,039 --> 00:52:55,159
the fact that you haven't canceled this yet is just awful,

1110
00:52:55,159 --> 00:52:57,360
awful marketing. You were crushing it in long term, going

1111
00:52:57,400 --> 00:53:02,320
to kill your site. I mean, I don't I don't understand.

1112
00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:05,440
Speaker 2: Why you would do this money gram.

1113
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:08,800
Speaker 1: See that's kind of like what like I don't want

1114
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:10,639
to like get someone in trouble for something that they

1115
00:53:10,679 --> 00:53:13,639
haven't done yet. But this it feels like a money

1116
00:53:13,639 --> 00:53:16,599
grab in the sense that like I feel like when

1117
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:20,239
all the stuff happened with online poker back in the day,

1118
00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:23,840
Like I don't know, maybe this is revisionist history, but

1119
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:25,920
I feel like a lot of stuff was getting launched

1120
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:28,239
on full to a poker to like start grabbing more money.

1121
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:29,760
Like they had all these you could play the same

1122
00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:32,079
tournament like multiple times at the same time. Yeah, I know,

1123
00:53:32,159 --> 00:53:33,960
but like was that a money grab because they kind

1124
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:36,159
of knew that the stuff was about to get shut

1125
00:53:36,199 --> 00:53:38,159
down and like there's a lot of stuff now where

1126
00:53:38,159 --> 00:53:40,840
sweepsake sites are like in the crosshairs of a lot

1127
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:43,360
of you know, lawmakers and states and whatnot. So is

1128
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:45,400
this like I don't know, it's just it's just it's

1129
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:46,239
just very weird.

1130
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:48,519
Speaker 2: I think it's a little bit about it. It's like, hey,

1131
00:53:48,639 --> 00:53:50,159
you know, obviously we can make a bit of extra

1132
00:53:50,199 --> 00:53:52,639
money here. It's also maybe, you know, we don't know

1133
00:53:52,639 --> 00:53:55,679
who's running club WPT. They might think this isn't actually

1134
00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:59,320
a good idea, you know, and we don't know. Obviously

1135
00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:00,920
there's a lot of negga is out there. But when

1136
00:54:01,199 --> 00:54:03,920
Full Tilt launched the multi entry and the re entries,

1137
00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:07,760
or even when we extended late registration, right, everyone was like,

1138
00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:09,639
oh this is this is I don't know about this,

1139
00:54:09,719 --> 00:54:11,639
And now it becomes the norm, the big blan nanny,

1140
00:54:12,199 --> 00:54:14,119
you know, everyone goes, I don't know about this. Now

1141
00:54:14,119 --> 00:54:17,360
it's the norm. So obviously this one probably will lean

1142
00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:21,559
to not happening again. But you know, operators, hey, even

1143
00:54:21,639 --> 00:54:25,039
ask PGT We try things. We tried things different, some work,

1144
00:54:25,159 --> 00:54:28,760
some don't. Obviously this one is getting a lot of negativity,

1145
00:54:29,559 --> 00:54:30,639
so it's a bit of both. I think it's a

1146
00:54:30,679 --> 00:54:32,239
little bit of a hey let's grab some money. Hey

1147
00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:34,960
let's try something new, let's offer play or something. But

1148
00:54:35,039 --> 00:54:37,880
let's also think who does this benefit the most? I

1149
00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:45,400
think the pros? What no, benefits the fish the most? Sorry, no, no,

1150
00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:48,360
I'm a phrasing that run Who is going to use

1151
00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:50,840
it the most? The fish? Yeah, right, which is bad

1152
00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:54,800
long term? Yes, yeah, Now, but what is the benefits

1153
00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:58,760
the pros? No, because in a way then the fish

1154
00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:01,239
go or there's less fish. But the way I see

1155
00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:04,519
it is, well, the percentage of play is on club WT. Yes,

1156
00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:06,199
you're right. If it's.

1157
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:09,920
Speaker 1: It doesn't really benefit the pros. It actually it makes

1158
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:15,079
it makes ultimately what this if you're like gonna say,

1159
00:55:15,119 --> 00:55:19,559
like what's worst case scenario? Basically all the bad players

1160
00:55:19,639 --> 00:55:23,039
are constantly clicking reveal, Right, so they're just pissing away

1161
00:55:23,039 --> 00:55:26,000
their bankroll every single time, and they're probably doing it,

1162
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:29,239
and if they're bad players, at least the potential is

1163
00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:32,719
higher that they're they're clicking it, and then they're not

1164
00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:35,159
actually learning from what they see, so like they're just

1165
00:55:35,159 --> 00:55:37,360
like seeing, oh he had it's Jackie bluffw it, but

1166
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:39,639
they're not actually yeah, they're not actually like thinking it

1167
00:55:39,719 --> 00:55:42,880
through fully, right, So their bankroll is just getting depleted.

1168
00:55:43,119 --> 00:55:46,239
So then where I misspoke is that in turn, the

1169
00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:48,880
bad players die out from the site because their bankroll

1170
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:51,519
is getting depleted, and then it becomes harder for the pros.

1171
00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:52,079
Speaker 2: Right.

1172
00:55:52,599 --> 00:55:56,280
Speaker 1: So yeah, so I I had that wrong. But anyway,

1173
00:55:56,280 --> 00:55:59,960
but so overall, like for site health, like I don't,

1174
00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:02,400
I don't feel like that's good.

1175
00:56:02,639 --> 00:56:05,559
Speaker 2: I think that well, the fact that the money goes

1176
00:56:05,559 --> 00:56:09,280
straight to that's probably the worst thing. Now, the money

1177
00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:11,800
was like if it was like a splash pop, you know,

1178
00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:13,400
that would probably be well, the money should go to

1179
00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:17,400
the player the hands. Yeah, yeah, so I don't.

1180
00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:19,239
Speaker 1: I don't know if I don't know exactly, Like basically

1181
00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:22,320
the site should take like max ten and even that's

1182
00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:24,519
free money for them, yeah, you know, and that would

1183
00:56:24,519 --> 00:56:26,599
probably just add up over time or they do something

1184
00:56:26,639 --> 00:56:28,360
like you said, a splash pot or whatever. I just

1185
00:56:28,519 --> 00:56:30,679
I don't know. Part of me also is like you

1186
00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:33,760
have someone like Doug Polk who is an ambassador, right,

1187
00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:36,679
you have someone who's a Brad Owen who is an ambassador.

1188
00:56:36,719 --> 00:56:39,960
You have someone who's you know, I think Tony Dunst

1189
00:56:40,039 --> 00:56:43,320
is extremely well versed in the online poker scene, like

1190
00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:46,519
like you didn't ask these people because I'm pretty sure

1191
00:56:46,519 --> 00:56:47,960
they would have all said like what are you doing?

1192
00:56:48,519 --> 00:56:51,039
Like this is ridiculous, Like so you like, I don't

1193
00:56:51,079 --> 00:56:53,599
understand how this is a thing.

1194
00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:57,760
Speaker 2: So yeah, I'll man, I have used it once. Of

1195
00:56:57,800 --> 00:57:00,719
course you have, because I have. Of course, I just

1196
00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:03,599
wanted to honestly say what it did? I how so

1197
00:57:03,639 --> 00:57:05,519
how long I was show on your screen?

1198
00:57:05,599 --> 00:57:05,800
Speaker 1: Long?

1199
00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:07,119
Speaker 2: It's so like can you eat?

1200
00:57:07,199 --> 00:57:09,679
Speaker 1: So for example, you're you're playing with what two seconds

1201
00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:12,280
seven other people? Yeah, and you see all the hands,

1202
00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:14,039
so can you see them? Can you? Are you able

1203
00:57:14,079 --> 00:57:16,480
to be like like, okay, I got all seven?

1204
00:57:16,639 --> 00:57:20,400
Speaker 2: I think I think you can. When you hit the

1205
00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:23,320
hand history button, you can see it. You can see

1206
00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:25,360
it there. Look god, I'll tell you the hand I had.

1207
00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:28,480
I have had like Queen ten on a Queen ten

1208
00:57:28,519 --> 00:57:32,000
export whatever, and I went like six six, and I

1209
00:57:32,039 --> 00:57:34,360
was like, I'm pretty sure this guy has like ices.

1210
00:57:34,639 --> 00:57:37,039
I bet bet followed or check followed the river. I

1211
00:57:37,079 --> 00:57:38,320
just was like, oh, I'm going to say it here.

1212
00:57:38,559 --> 00:57:40,480
So all I was doing was looking at his hand

1213
00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:42,800
and revealed and I actually didn't check the hand, and

1214
00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:44,760
so I actually don't know if it if it's the

1215
00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:46,360
hand history or if it just pops up because I

1216
00:57:46,360 --> 00:57:48,440
was only looking at one hand to just test the

1217
00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:49,000
feature out.

1218
00:57:49,079 --> 00:57:52,000
Speaker 1: But now I know obviously the the the easy thing

1219
00:57:52,119 --> 00:57:53,639
for the site to say is like, well, this helps

1220
00:57:53,679 --> 00:57:54,480
prevent collusion.

1221
00:57:55,159 --> 00:57:58,159
Speaker 3: I mean, okay, I was just saying it helps players

1222
00:57:58,159 --> 00:58:01,960
get better with but like if maybe if you just

1223
00:58:02,639 --> 00:58:06,239
have the correct security protocols in place, you should be

1224
00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:07,800
preventing collusion anyway.

1225
00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:11,239
Speaker 1: Like it's you know, it shouldn't rely on like Tim Duck,

1226
00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:12,960
where is seeing some hand and be like, oh, that's

1227
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:15,800
weird he folded top pair to this guy for you know,

1228
00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:17,199
one tenth part. That's very weird.

1229
00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:19,800
Speaker 2: Can you check into this? So so yeah, so I

1230
00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:22,440
don't know. Yeah, I only shouldn't be out to see

1231
00:58:23,199 --> 00:58:25,320
like there should be scenarios where you you shouldn't really

1232
00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:26,880
be able to see all the cards, right, like I.

1233
00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:30,559
Speaker 1: Mean is a game of incomplete information? I mean like,

1234
00:58:31,519 --> 00:58:34,320
so I think this is ultimately going to make this

1235
00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:37,199
site tougher in the long run if it sticks around

1236
00:58:37,239 --> 00:58:39,800
and the bad players are the ones that are using

1237
00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:41,480
it and you know, are using it a lot more,

1238
00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:43,079
and they're just going to deplete their bank goals a

1239
00:58:43,079 --> 00:58:46,440
bit faster, like I don't think pros are really ever

1240
00:58:46,519 --> 00:58:49,679
going to use this. I mean one because Club WPT

1241
00:58:49,760 --> 00:58:52,920
Gold just recently launched multi table too, right, so like

1242
00:58:54,079 --> 00:58:56,719
they're probably playing a million tables like whatever, there's onto

1243
00:58:56,719 --> 00:58:58,719
the next hand, like it's you know, so anyway, I

1244
00:58:58,760 --> 00:59:03,320
just think it's it's weird and off putting to me.

1245
00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:06,320
Speaker 2: I feel like if this was available in tournaments, I've

1246
00:59:06,320 --> 00:59:08,760
been playing more tournaments on there, I feel like I

1247
00:59:08,840 --> 00:59:11,320
might use it then more okay, like how do you

1248
00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:13,000
determine the price?

1249
00:59:13,199 --> 00:59:18,000
Speaker 1: But true, So I also thought it was interesting that

1250
00:59:18,159 --> 00:59:21,719
this happens, right, So it's like it's very much from

1251
00:59:21,719 --> 00:59:24,239
the community side. Looking at Club WPT Gold, it was

1252
00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:25,039
it was negative.

1253
00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:25,639
Speaker 2: Right.

1254
00:59:26,079 --> 00:59:28,320
Speaker 1: Then you have GG Poker who launches what they call

1255
00:59:28,400 --> 00:59:32,440
streamer Mode, which, at least from what I could tell

1256
00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:34,320
and the people that I talked to, is like, Okay,

1257
00:59:34,320 --> 00:59:36,880
this is very cool, this is a positive, this is innovative,

1258
00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:39,280
like look at this. So it's just funny to me

1259
00:59:39,360 --> 00:59:44,400
to juxtapose the two, you know, like biggest competitors and

1260
00:59:44,440 --> 00:59:47,239
they're doing like complete opposite things that are viewed completely

1261
00:59:47,239 --> 00:59:51,400
opposite from the community and what streamer mode is is

1262
00:59:52,239 --> 00:59:56,320
basically GG poker. From what they said and what I

1263
00:59:56,440 --> 00:59:59,280
gathered is that they look at the poker streaming landscape

1264
00:59:59,320 --> 01:00:01,760
not like poker. I like, what poker go does poker streaming,

1265
01:00:01,880 --> 01:00:06,559
like what Jason Summerville pioneered, right, So like on twitch

1266
01:00:06,719 --> 01:00:08,880
on YouTube, you know that sort of stuff, you know,

1267
01:00:08,960 --> 01:00:12,320
streaming yourself playing online and whatever. And they said, you

1268
01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:15,760
know what, it seems like it's kind of dying and

1269
01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:18,360
it's very hard for these people, these streamers out there

1270
01:00:18,400 --> 01:00:21,760
to make inadequate sort of living from it because it's

1271
01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:25,519
gotten harder to make money from twitch or whatever, right,

1272
01:00:25,639 --> 01:00:29,199
I mean, that's at least the thesis of this. So

1273
01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:33,559
what they're doing is they're offering perks to people that

1274
01:00:33,639 --> 01:00:36,880
want to stream, and the biggest perk is one hundred

1275
01:00:36,880 --> 01:00:40,639
percent rake back while you're streaming. Yeah, which is ridiculous.

1276
01:00:40,679 --> 01:00:43,280
I mean that sounds incredible. Now, you do have to

1277
01:00:43,360 --> 01:00:46,239
meet like some benchmarks in order to qualify, you do

1278
01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:49,000
have to get approved by Gigi Poker to be like

1279
01:00:49,039 --> 01:00:53,199
an authorized streamer or whatever. But the perks are one

1280
01:00:53,239 --> 01:00:56,119
hundred percent rake back while you're streaming, whole card and

1281
01:00:56,239 --> 01:01:00,960
balance hiding to protect against giving away info, a streamer

1282
01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:03,960
panel to help you manage multiple tables, and then a

1283
01:01:04,039 --> 01:01:09,159
visibility boost with streams showcased inside the gg poker client,

1284
01:01:09,880 --> 01:01:12,440
and then a special avatar border as well. So I'm

1285
01:01:12,440 --> 01:01:14,159
assuming you know, in the client it shows that like

1286
01:01:14,199 --> 01:01:18,760
someone so is streaming and whatever. Now to qualify, you

1287
01:01:18,800 --> 01:01:21,320
need to have three months of consistent streaming that can

1288
01:01:21,360 --> 01:01:23,719
be on twitch or YouTube, and you have to average

1289
01:01:23,920 --> 01:01:28,960
forty viewers, which doesn't seem that high, but there are

1290
01:01:29,000 --> 01:01:31,000
plenty of people who I've like checked in on twitch

1291
01:01:31,039 --> 01:01:33,960
and whatever and it's like sixteen eight. You know, it's

1292
01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:36,920
so it it. I think that this is good because

1293
01:01:37,559 --> 01:01:39,920
it makes basically the streamer work for it. Like you

1294
01:01:39,960 --> 01:01:41,719
can't just slap up a stream tomorrow I have two

1295
01:01:41,760 --> 01:01:43,840
viewers and get one hundred percent break back. You know,

1296
01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:46,519
this is like you have to reach this benchmark. So yeah,

1297
01:01:46,559 --> 01:01:48,320
then you have to apply, you have to get approved,

1298
01:01:48,320 --> 01:01:50,039
and you have to link all your accounts and all

1299
01:01:50,159 --> 01:01:52,639
that sort of stuff. If you do abuse the system,

1300
01:01:53,639 --> 01:01:56,800
you know, manipulating stats, don't having bots, whatever the heck,

1301
01:01:56,920 --> 01:01:59,920
you're going to lose access. So overall, you know, again,

1302
01:02:00,159 --> 01:02:04,679
I think that they looked at streaming viewership, and they

1303
01:02:04,679 --> 01:02:07,320
think it's been trending down, which I think I would

1304
01:02:07,320 --> 01:02:11,119
agree with, even just like anecdotally from me, Like I

1305
01:02:11,199 --> 01:02:13,480
used to watch more poker streams, I don't watch really

1306
01:02:13,480 --> 01:02:17,159
any at all other than maybe Lex Veeldhaus. So even

1307
01:02:17,280 --> 01:02:20,039
just that, like I'm just drawn to it less, which

1308
01:02:20,079 --> 01:02:22,440
tells me it's just less popular. I mean, maybe it's

1309
01:02:22,480 --> 01:02:25,079
just a me thing, but who knows. And then they're

1310
01:02:25,079 --> 01:02:27,280
hoping that this, you know, this combination of you know,

1311
01:02:27,400 --> 01:02:29,800
some financial upside with one hundred percent rake back, which

1312
01:02:29,840 --> 01:02:31,639
if you're playing a high volume that can add up

1313
01:02:32,039 --> 01:02:34,679
quite a bit, some better tech, some tools, all that

1314
01:02:34,719 --> 01:02:37,840
sort of stuff. You know, it's it's good for the streamers.

1315
01:02:37,920 --> 01:02:40,559
Right now, what does GG poker get out of this, Well,

1316
01:02:40,639 --> 01:02:43,440
if you're streaming from GG Poker's platform and they get

1317
01:02:43,440 --> 01:02:46,719
a whole bunch more people streaming and being successful with streaming,

1318
01:02:47,320 --> 01:02:51,960
that's marketing, that's brand awareness, that's promotion for GG poker. Yeah,

1319
01:02:52,000 --> 01:02:54,159
So that's what they're doing here, that's that's the play,

1320
01:02:54,639 --> 01:02:56,960
right So and it also, you know, I think it's

1321
01:02:56,960 --> 01:03:00,400
a good narrative thing. Again, like you have over here

1322
01:03:00,400 --> 01:03:02,960
you have Club WPT Gold doing this, which was negatively

1323
01:03:03,000 --> 01:03:05,280
viewed by the community over here, you got gg poker

1324
01:03:05,280 --> 01:03:08,199
doing this, which is like wow, this is great. And

1325
01:03:08,280 --> 01:03:11,760
also if you want to combine it, GG poker recently

1326
01:03:11,760 --> 01:03:14,920
bought the wsop were coming off a great wicopy. The

1327
01:03:15,199 --> 01:03:17,679
the app wsp plus was received super well. That was

1328
01:03:17,719 --> 01:03:20,719
obviously implemented by gg poker. Like everything is kind of

1329
01:03:20,719 --> 01:03:23,119
going like very positive for gg pokers. This is like

1330
01:03:23,159 --> 01:03:28,719
another thing that's just great. My question is, can one operator,

1331
01:03:29,119 --> 01:03:32,519
you know, even with you know, a fairly large financial

1332
01:03:32,559 --> 01:03:34,840
support in the fact that they're giving one hundred percent

1333
01:03:34,960 --> 01:03:38,199
rake back, which I mean you maybe they approve a

1334
01:03:38,239 --> 01:03:39,840
thousand people. I mean, that could add up to a

1335
01:03:39,840 --> 01:03:43,639
lot of money, right, can they actually turn poker streaming

1336
01:03:43,679 --> 01:03:45,760
like into a thing again? Can they make that growth

1337
01:03:45,800 --> 01:03:46,320
come back?

1338
01:03:47,280 --> 01:03:49,119
Speaker 2: I think they can. It's just not gonna be over night.

1339
01:03:49,159 --> 01:03:50,719
It's gonna take a while, right, You're gonna have to

1340
01:03:50,719 --> 01:03:53,840
get slowly bring these people in, slowly approve them. It's

1341
01:03:53,960 --> 01:03:59,519
gonna slowly increase streaming traffic. That's going to increase the

1342
01:03:59,599 --> 01:04:02,760
GG poker traffic, and then it's going to slowly widen out,

1343
01:04:02,800 --> 01:04:06,000
widen out, widen now, So yes, they can. It's not

1344
01:04:06,039 --> 01:04:07,679
going to be instantaneous.

1345
01:04:08,360 --> 01:04:08,559
Speaker 1: You know.

1346
01:04:09,440 --> 01:04:11,360
Speaker 2: When this news came out, the first thing I did

1347
01:04:11,480 --> 01:04:13,760
was look to see if that also included WSP dot

1348
01:04:13,760 --> 01:04:16,079
com same. You know, I did the same. I was like, oh,

1349
01:04:16,159 --> 01:04:18,400
maybe sort stream. That's exactly what I thought, because I

1350
01:04:18,400 --> 01:04:20,599
was like, you know, like you know, they say forty

1351
01:04:20,719 --> 01:04:23,880
average viewers, and you know, if you're not streaming, like

1352
01:04:23,920 --> 01:04:25,199
you can touch it. If you're not on the streamer,

1353
01:04:25,559 --> 01:04:28,519
that's easy. But if you're gonna stream six hours, you know,

1354
01:04:28,519 --> 01:04:30,360
you've got to be entertaining. You got to have you

1355
01:04:30,480 --> 01:04:32,840
either got to be good at poker or entertaining hopefully

1356
01:04:32,880 --> 01:04:37,679
both have a good stream, have good quality. That's not easy, right,

1357
01:04:37,920 --> 01:04:41,440
it's not super tough either. But I think this is

1358
01:04:42,480 --> 01:04:44,719
a great step forward, you know, and it's a big

1359
01:04:44,760 --> 01:04:47,440
step forward to try and you know, fix something. And

1360
01:04:47,440 --> 01:04:51,000
if we're talking about gig you know in general, you know,

1361
01:04:51,199 --> 01:04:54,440
like you touched on WSP plus app great for the

1362
01:04:54,480 --> 01:04:57,000
live players here in Las Vegas, you know, when they

1363
01:04:57,000 --> 01:04:59,239
go to Europe, when they go to Paradise. Now we've

1364
01:04:59,280 --> 01:05:01,679
got this for for the guys that you know staying

1365
01:05:01,719 --> 01:05:04,880
in Europe or wherever they are playing online streaming trying

1366
01:05:04,880 --> 01:05:08,000
to get that Gigi Poker brand out there. They are

1367
01:05:08,000 --> 01:05:10,760
doing I don't want to say as much as they can,

1368
01:05:10,760 --> 01:05:13,519
but they're doing quite a lot to really do their

1369
01:05:13,559 --> 01:05:16,920
part to grow the game. And obviously, you know, what's

1370
01:05:16,920 --> 01:05:20,360
that saying about the rising tides. You know, a rising

1371
01:05:20,400 --> 01:05:22,440
tide lifts all boats. Yeah, I think you know, this

1372
01:05:22,599 --> 01:05:24,679
is kind of one part of it. Now. I've club

1373
01:05:24,840 --> 01:05:27,719
wpt IF Global Poker, if you know, we talk about

1374
01:05:27,760 --> 01:05:30,280
the streaming out that's like ask Poker, go Haskasina Live

1375
01:05:30,719 --> 01:05:32,840
can do all our parts and you know, the whole

1376
01:05:32,880 --> 01:05:36,679
poker industry could definitely grow and get bigger with you know,

1377
01:05:36,880 --> 01:05:39,039
positive initiatives like this one. Yeah.

1378
01:05:39,159 --> 01:05:40,360
Speaker 1: No, I agree with you.

1379
01:05:41,239 --> 01:05:41,719
Speaker 2: Ultimately.

1380
01:05:41,960 --> 01:05:46,079
Speaker 1: I can't say whether I'm like too confident that it's

1381
01:05:46,159 --> 01:05:50,199
going to work. It might flop, but I do like

1382
01:05:50,280 --> 01:05:53,679
the thinking here. I think it is pretty innovative, and

1383
01:05:54,800 --> 01:05:57,199
I do want it to work because ultimately I think

1384
01:05:57,239 --> 01:05:59,800
that it'll be a good thing for poker, right, I think,

1385
01:05:59,840 --> 01:06:03,960
just more more poker out there, from content for people

1386
01:06:04,000 --> 01:06:06,400
to consume, get sucked into the game, all that sort

1387
01:06:06,400 --> 01:06:09,039
of stuff is just ultimately a good thing. So I'm

1388
01:06:09,159 --> 01:06:12,320
definitely for this. So we'll see if it works while

1389
01:06:12,320 --> 01:06:14,639
we'll obviously monitor it and uh you know, we'll check

1390
01:06:14,679 --> 01:06:16,400
on in on it from time to time, you know.

1391
01:06:16,480 --> 01:06:20,199
Should we need to quick break here while I tell

1392
01:06:20,199 --> 01:06:22,679
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neck of the woods kangaroo boy Aussie millions. Yeah, they

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released a press release they said it's coming back April

1414
01:07:36,360 --> 01:07:38,800
twenty fourth through May tenth. What the heck do we know?

1415
01:07:38,920 --> 01:07:40,039
What is happening here?

1416
01:07:40,480 --> 01:07:40,559
Speaker 2: Like?

1417
01:07:40,760 --> 01:07:42,599
Speaker 1: Is it back as we know it? It's obviously a

1418
01:07:42,599 --> 01:07:47,199
different timeslot. So tell me, Tell I love Ozias.

1419
01:07:46,800 --> 01:07:48,599
Speaker 2: Tell me I love Uzzie million. So I don't know

1420
01:07:48,719 --> 01:07:50,800
that much. I did have a meeting with them, uh,

1421
01:07:51,039 --> 01:07:53,920
you know, I wanted to just chat about poker in general.

1422
01:07:53,960 --> 01:07:57,239
It's obviously been quite a few years since they've been

1423
01:07:57,320 --> 01:07:58,119
around and the.

1424
01:07:58,039 --> 01:07:59,559
Speaker 1: Poker when when was the last year?

1425
01:08:01,119 --> 01:08:05,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, so the landscape has changed, so you know, they

1426
01:08:05,559 --> 01:08:07,480
I wanted to give them advice their questions for me.

1427
01:08:07,880 --> 01:08:09,639
Talked a little bit about streaming, talked a little bit

1428
01:08:09,639 --> 01:08:12,320
about this and that. Obviously moving to April, that's the

1429
01:08:12,320 --> 01:08:14,599
biggest that's the biggest change, right, that's the window where

1430
01:08:14,599 --> 01:08:17,560
the old Victorian Poker Championships used to be the Melbourne

1431
01:08:17,560 --> 01:08:18,880
Poker Championships prior to that.

1432
01:08:19,600 --> 01:08:21,159
Speaker 1: But why I don't understand April.

1433
01:08:21,840 --> 01:08:26,079
Speaker 2: Main reason is, you know, January okay, obviously January beautiful

1434
01:08:26,079 --> 01:08:28,439
time in Australia, great weather, You've got the Australian Poker Open,

1435
01:08:28,760 --> 01:08:32,159
the Australian Tennis Open, you've got the you got some cricket,

1436
01:08:32,920 --> 01:08:37,079
You're just great weather, right, But does Crown really need

1437
01:08:37,199 --> 01:08:40,319
to throw a poker tournament on you know, yes, they

1438
01:08:40,319 --> 01:08:42,479
have enough going on there, So I think they're just

1439
01:08:42,560 --> 01:08:44,479
moving in the window. They're moving it down into it

1440
01:08:44,600 --> 01:08:47,279
maybe like a less busy spot, so we're talking maybe

1441
01:08:47,439 --> 01:08:51,520
discounted rooms, cheaper rooms for people traveling. Obviously weather's not

1442
01:08:51,560 --> 01:08:54,520
as great, but hey, you can watch the Muzzi Rules football,

1443
01:08:54,600 --> 01:08:56,479
so that's that's good enough for me. So I think

1444
01:08:56,479 --> 01:09:00,439
that's the main reason with moving moving to that window, basically,

1445
01:09:00,520 --> 01:09:03,199
you know, having availability in the casino in general, when

1446
01:09:03,640 --> 01:09:06,239
everything else is so busy in that Christmas kind of period.

1447
01:09:06,840 --> 01:09:11,319
Schedule wise, it's still they've got like a rough template

1448
01:09:11,359 --> 01:09:13,680
of what they're doing. You know, they're still working stuff out,

1449
01:09:13,720 --> 01:09:16,720
it's still trying to figure things out. I believe it's

1450
01:09:16,760 --> 01:09:18,960
going to be you know, the ten k main event again,

1451
01:09:19,600 --> 01:09:21,520
and they understand that this year is not going to

1452
01:09:21,560 --> 01:09:24,079
be big. You know, they understand that, hey, we're coming back,

1453
01:09:24,800 --> 01:09:26,640
but this is the building block for the next year

1454
01:09:26,800 --> 01:09:28,960
and the next year and so forth, which makes a

1455
01:09:28,960 --> 01:09:31,319
lot of sense. The one thing that you know, when

1456
01:09:31,359 --> 01:09:33,920
I talk to them about is just and I'm hoping

1457
01:09:33,920 --> 01:09:36,079
obviously we don't have a massive audience, but if the

1458
01:09:36,399 --> 01:09:39,079
people listening at home pass it on, you know that

1459
01:09:39,119 --> 01:09:43,760
I think of going. The biggest thing that I want

1460
01:09:43,800 --> 01:09:46,399
to tell people is I think a lot of people

1461
01:09:46,439 --> 01:09:50,359
are under the wrong impression of the laws and regulations

1462
01:09:50,359 --> 01:09:53,119
in Australia when it comes to playing. You know, we

1463
01:09:53,159 --> 01:09:56,479
have heard things where you can only play twelve hours.

1464
01:09:56,560 --> 01:09:59,039
You know, you could only play two hour hours at

1465
01:09:59,039 --> 01:10:01,359
a time. Then you have to go to a break. Well,

1466
01:10:02,119 --> 01:10:05,039
you know, that makes it pretty not fun poker experience,

1467
01:10:05,079 --> 01:10:07,600
and I don't know how tournaments would ever work. But

1468
01:10:08,239 --> 01:10:10,960
they inform me that that is actually for cash games

1469
01:10:11,760 --> 01:10:14,560
and for table games, and it's a thirty I think

1470
01:10:14,640 --> 01:10:16,319
they said it was thirty six hours you have to

1471
01:10:16,319 --> 01:10:19,239
put you get a max in a week. So if

1472
01:10:19,279 --> 01:10:21,760
you're a one two no limit player, two five grinder,

1473
01:10:21,760 --> 01:10:23,239
you're thinking about traveling in the I was in millions

1474
01:10:23,239 --> 01:10:25,560
to play cash might not want to do that, you

1475
01:10:25,600 --> 01:10:28,399
have thirty six hours max. But if you're playing tournaments,

1476
01:10:28,439 --> 01:10:31,359
no difference, it's no different to what you experienced here

1477
01:10:31,399 --> 01:10:33,680
in Vegas. They're going to have their normal kind of

1478
01:10:33,720 --> 01:10:37,000
you know, you twelve to one am kind of tournament times.

1479
01:10:37,000 --> 01:10:39,399
So if you are a tournament player thinking about going,

1480
01:10:40,720 --> 01:10:43,560
it's normal. You know, those regulations don't really apply for you.

1481
01:10:44,159 --> 01:10:45,479
But if you play cash or you want to play

1482
01:10:45,520 --> 01:10:48,479
blackjack or back road or craps whatever that is, that's

1483
01:10:48,520 --> 01:10:52,439
where those kind of hour restrictions come in. But for tournaments,

1484
01:10:52,720 --> 01:10:56,359
completely fine, it's normal. You can go play every event

1485
01:10:57,239 --> 01:10:57,800
under the sun.

1486
01:10:58,600 --> 01:11:02,239
Speaker 1: Just reading from a pokernews dot COM's article, Will Schilbeuer

1487
01:11:03,079 --> 01:11:06,000
wrote this. He mentioned that the twenty twenty six edition

1488
01:11:06,079 --> 01:11:12,439
will feature eighteen tournaments, estimated fourteen million AUSY prize school,

1489
01:11:12,479 --> 01:11:17,319
which is approximately nine million USD and then Bien's are

1490
01:11:17,319 --> 01:11:20,279
going to rage fifteen hundred OZZY to twenty five thousand.

1491
01:11:21,199 --> 01:11:24,760
They're going to have the ten thousand, six hundred AUZZY

1492
01:11:24,840 --> 01:11:27,640
main event, as you mentioned, which is about seven thousand

1493
01:11:27,640 --> 01:11:31,760
dollars for US at least right now. So yeah, so

1494
01:11:31,920 --> 01:11:34,640
we'll you know, we'll see how things play out. I

1495
01:11:34,760 --> 01:11:37,760
freaking love this tournament. I think it's absolutely incredible. I

1496
01:11:37,800 --> 01:11:40,079
love Australia. I would love to go back for this.

1497
01:11:40,920 --> 01:11:43,359
Take the pot on the road, Take the Pod on

1498
01:11:43,479 --> 01:11:46,760
the road. That would be incredible. If Crown will have us,

1499
01:11:46,960 --> 01:11:51,079
I will freaking be there. Okay, let's freaking go. But yeah,

1500
01:11:51,119 --> 01:11:54,560
I mean, this tournament is it's always been incredible, you

1501
01:11:54,640 --> 01:11:58,079
obviously know, and it's it's it's a lot of fun.

1502
01:11:58,159 --> 01:12:00,079
So I felt like, in a lot of ways is

1503
01:12:00,119 --> 01:12:01,720
when it went away, you know, we lost one of

1504
01:12:01,760 --> 01:12:04,840
our majors. Crown Ozzie Million's main event was like always

1505
01:12:04,840 --> 01:12:07,079
one of the big four or five tournaments in the world.

1506
01:12:07,640 --> 01:12:11,760
Hopefully it comes back, and also you know, hopefully that

1507
01:12:11,720 --> 01:12:14,079
they do it right. Yeah, you know, like I you know,

1508
01:12:14,199 --> 01:12:16,279
so I think they should listen to you. Just do

1509
01:12:16,359 --> 01:12:19,560
whatever you say, basically, That's.

1510
01:12:19,399 --> 01:12:21,960
Speaker 2: What I think. I mean. Yeah, look, I think people

1511
01:12:21,960 --> 01:12:24,399
have to understand that this is Yeah, they're dipping their

1512
01:12:24,399 --> 01:12:26,720
foot back in the water. It's it's not going to

1513
01:12:26,800 --> 01:12:29,159
be thousands and thousands of plays in the main event.

1514
01:12:29,239 --> 01:12:31,560
Speaker 1: But what was the biggest one they ever had?

1515
01:12:31,600 --> 01:12:35,720
Speaker 2: Do we know, probably in this nine to seventy one.

1516
01:12:37,439 --> 01:12:41,840
Speaker 1: No, never got over nine hundred, oh twenty nineteen. So

1517
01:12:41,880 --> 01:12:45,239
the second to last one, Yeah, they had eight twenty two.

1518
01:12:45,840 --> 01:12:48,479
Twenty eighteen was eight hundred, then it was eight twenty two,

1519
01:12:48,479 --> 01:12:49,439
then it was eight twenty.

1520
01:12:50,079 --> 01:12:52,760
Speaker 2: I always thought one of my favorite frames out right,

1521
01:12:52,920 --> 01:12:53,640
it is a freezer.

1522
01:12:53,760 --> 01:12:53,960
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1523
01:12:54,000 --> 01:12:54,439
Speaker 2: One of my.

1524
01:12:54,359 --> 01:12:58,279
Speaker 1: Favorite things to like write about and talk about was

1525
01:12:58,319 --> 01:13:02,520
how whatever the Aussie Millions did, the was main event

1526
01:13:02,560 --> 01:13:05,239
field size would mirror that for like the longest time.

1527
01:13:05,279 --> 01:13:08,560
It was like the weirdest thing ever. So you know,

1528
01:13:08,680 --> 01:13:11,039
because you guys copy us, Yeah, sure, but you know

1529
01:13:12,159 --> 01:13:13,560
that then they didn't have it for a while.

1530
01:13:13,600 --> 01:13:17,199
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, what a freaking tournament. Yeah, I mean

1531
01:13:17,279 --> 01:13:19,239
I'm looking forward to saying what they put together, like

1532
01:13:19,319 --> 01:13:23,479
schedule wise, and you know, if you know, if we're involved,

1533
01:13:23,520 --> 01:13:26,119
who knows, we'll see what kind of happens. But you're

1534
01:13:26,119 --> 01:13:29,039
looking forward to it finally coming back, and obviously each

1535
01:13:29,119 --> 01:13:30,159
year is going to keep growing.

1536
01:13:30,239 --> 01:13:33,600
Speaker 1: So yeah, let's go. Let's go Australia, baby, come on, baby.

1537
01:13:33,720 --> 01:13:35,920
I just as we were talking about it, I went

1538
01:13:35,960 --> 01:13:37,960
to the I went to Ozzie Millions dot com. It

1539
01:13:38,039 --> 01:13:41,800
rear directed me to the Crown website. Okay, then I

1540
01:13:41,840 --> 01:13:44,479
clicked about the Auzie Millions discover page. Then it said

1541
01:13:44,520 --> 01:13:47,079
join our poker community. I clicked that brings me to

1542
01:13:47,079 --> 01:13:51,680
a Facebook group and I just submitted to enter it. Okay,

1543
01:13:52,079 --> 01:13:54,600
I'm in, I'm fully back in. I'm fully in.

1544
01:13:54,680 --> 01:13:54,920
Speaker 2: Baby.

1545
01:13:54,960 --> 01:13:59,199
Speaker 1: Let's go. Give me all the freaking Lambington's. And what

1546
01:13:59,239 --> 01:14:01,560
do I drink for the car? Flat white? No, I

1547
01:14:01,600 --> 01:14:05,199
don't think short black? Yeah, give me that. Let's go, baby,

1548
01:14:05,239 --> 01:14:07,439
come on, I'm ready to go. And that sweet money,

1549
01:14:07,560 --> 01:14:12,560
that's sweet, sweet money. It's incredible. Let's go to Cyprus.

1550
01:14:12,800 --> 01:14:15,640
ONYX Super high Roller Series a couple events that we

1551
01:14:15,640 --> 01:14:17,600
want to talk about here. I think this series overall

1552
01:14:17,640 --> 01:14:21,560
is still going. But they had a ten k buy

1553
01:14:21,600 --> 01:14:24,800
in what is called the gig Millions.

1554
01:14:25,319 --> 01:14:27,720
Speaker 2: I think it's just called the GG millions.

1555
01:14:27,840 --> 01:14:31,199
Speaker 1: Five million dollar Guaranteed Prize pill one million dollar first

1556
01:14:31,239 --> 01:14:35,479
place prize. Uh Moosa Ahmad from Lebanon wins it all

1557
01:14:35,560 --> 01:14:38,399
for a million dollars, topping a field of five hundred

1558
01:14:38,399 --> 01:14:41,720
and ten entries. Jamil Wakeel out of Canada. I'm believe

1559
01:14:41,720 --> 01:14:44,680
he made the final table of VPT money. Carlo also

1560
01:14:44,920 --> 01:14:50,079
one with the mys click mis click, slow rolled angle, whatever,

1561
01:14:50,119 --> 01:14:50,840
the heck you want to call it.

1562
01:14:50,880 --> 01:14:51,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was that one.

1563
01:14:51,920 --> 01:14:52,039
Speaker 3: Uh.

1564
01:14:52,079 --> 01:14:56,159
Speaker 1: He finished his second for six hundred and fifty k, big,

1565
01:14:56,199 --> 01:14:58,319
big tournament here. And then I also want to hit

1566
01:14:58,359 --> 01:15:00,960
on the fact that Jesse Lonis won the one hundred

1567
01:15:00,960 --> 01:15:04,279
and two thousand dollars ONYX Super high Roller Series Invitational.

1568
01:15:04,319 --> 01:15:08,600
He was paired with Johann Gilbert Yo Viral, and I

1569
01:15:08,640 --> 01:15:10,920
think I saw yo Viral say on social media that

1570
01:15:11,000 --> 01:15:14,439
he backed Jesse in this tournament for fifty percent of

1571
01:15:14,439 --> 01:15:17,560
his action. So Lonis won this the minuted deal heads

1572
01:15:17,640 --> 01:15:20,760
up for one point seventy five million, so I think

1573
01:15:20,880 --> 01:15:22,800
half of it went to Johann, half of it goes

1574
01:15:22,840 --> 01:15:26,399
to Jesse. I guess I just wanted to touch on

1575
01:15:26,520 --> 01:15:28,760
those two winners as a jumping off point. I mean,

1576
01:15:28,800 --> 01:15:33,479
this series looks like it's the new kid on the block. Well,

1577
01:15:33,560 --> 01:15:39,560
the fields look big, Yeah, they look juicy. They're getting

1578
01:15:39,560 --> 01:15:41,359
a lot of big names there. You know, we've seen

1579
01:15:41,359 --> 01:15:43,520
a lot of the big finish guys are over there

1580
01:15:43,560 --> 01:15:45,520
now for some of the polo stuff that's happening. I

1581
01:15:45,640 --> 01:15:49,159
just mentioned Jesse Lonis. I know Nick Shulman is over there,

1582
01:15:49,359 --> 01:15:53,960
Eric Wasserson, Phil Ivy is in the mix. So yeah,

1583
01:15:54,000 --> 01:15:57,560
I mean I've they have by ins, like they have

1584
01:15:57,640 --> 01:16:00,079
that ten k, they have a fifty k, they have

1585
01:16:00,079 --> 01:16:02,199
one hundred k's like they got all this sort of stuff.

1586
01:16:02,199 --> 01:16:02,720
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know.

1587
01:16:02,760 --> 01:16:05,560
Speaker 1: I feel like this is like this series like just

1588
01:16:05,560 --> 01:16:08,479
has arrived. They're kind of out of nowhere, and it's

1589
01:16:08,520 --> 01:16:11,279
been good. It's been fun to watch it. It's been

1590
01:16:11,319 --> 01:16:13,920
fun to follow it. And yeah, I think it's on

1591
01:16:14,000 --> 01:16:14,319
the map.

1592
01:16:15,039 --> 01:16:18,479
Speaker 2: Well it was around last year. It was our series,

1593
01:16:20,199 --> 01:16:24,079
so it's it's that same window. It's this very similar events.

1594
01:16:24,079 --> 01:16:26,760
But yes, it's it's more on Expace. It's more it's

1595
01:16:26,800 --> 01:16:30,560
more linked with you know, with Trenton and GG. But yeah,

1596
01:16:30,640 --> 01:16:36,640
it's you know, first of all, Cyprus, beautiful hotel, beautiful beach,

1597
01:16:36,680 --> 01:16:40,199
beautiful pools. There a great venue to go to, great

1598
01:16:40,199 --> 01:16:43,439
service everything, So I can understand why people are you know,

1599
01:16:43,600 --> 01:16:47,359
heading there to go play this event. One thing, one event,

1600
01:16:47,399 --> 01:16:48,640
you can't you know, there's a lot of events. In

1601
01:16:48,680 --> 01:16:50,640
one event. There was one hundred k PLO that wrapped

1602
01:16:50,720 --> 01:16:53,279
up two of our kind of PLO regulars, the Tara

1603
01:16:53,319 --> 01:16:58,039
Guerrero third place Smallly. They made a three way deal

1604
01:16:58,600 --> 01:17:02,359
Sam Sibila yeah, what did I say? Similarly, yeah, Ben

1605
01:17:02,439 --> 01:17:05,279
Lamb was at that final table, as were the final table.

1606
01:17:06,399 --> 01:17:08,359
Trying to think who else Martin Dan was at the

1607
01:17:08,439 --> 01:17:10,319
final table. All guys that play here in our studio,

1608
01:17:10,359 --> 01:17:12,880
but one hundred k plow event. What about the phil

1609
01:17:12,880 --> 01:17:15,920
Ivy He did not final table that but one point

1610
01:17:16,039 --> 01:17:18,520
nine million there for the first they did it yet,

1611
01:17:18,520 --> 01:17:19,439
like I said, three way.

1612
01:17:19,279 --> 01:17:24,279
Speaker 1: Deal, he's this guy who's in first place, Donnie. Let's

1613
01:17:24,279 --> 01:17:26,239
see there was another one. Do you see the other one?

1614
01:17:26,560 --> 01:17:30,920
Speaker 2: Dubai Dubai police, Yeah, what are we doing? Well? What what?

1615
01:17:30,920 --> 01:17:32,880
Speaker 1: What do you That might have been his name? No,

1616
01:17:32,960 --> 01:17:35,079
there's no shot that was he's like put Dubai Police.

1617
01:17:35,119 --> 01:17:39,079
Speaker 2: Yeah probably yeah, but yeah it's from possibly the new

1618
01:17:39,279 --> 01:17:42,119
high Roller series out there in Cyprus. Good time. People

1619
01:17:42,119 --> 01:17:43,960
want to get out of Vegas. What do we possibly

1620
01:17:44,039 --> 01:17:45,960
it for sure? Is well, let's see if they're doing

1621
01:17:45,960 --> 01:17:47,640
next to you, like you know, but.

1622
01:17:48,319 --> 01:17:50,159
Speaker 1: The process that I feel like I saw here Jesse

1623
01:17:50,199 --> 01:17:52,239
Loan has finished sixth place in his other tournament.

1624
01:17:52,439 --> 01:17:55,119
Speaker 2: They've got also the Onyx you know, cash game room,

1625
01:17:55,359 --> 01:17:56,880
so like I think four or five tables in and

1626
01:17:56,920 --> 01:17:58,760
that's where they do the live streams from.

1627
01:17:58,840 --> 01:18:00,399
Speaker 1: DoD Jesse Loans lose a Coger.

1628
01:18:01,800 --> 01:18:04,399
Speaker 2: What the hell He's got angels and gorillas and he's

1629
01:18:04,800 --> 01:18:06,079
only showed us I never.

1630
01:18:07,359 --> 01:18:11,800
Speaker 1: I mean his his his arrival on the content creation

1631
01:18:11,920 --> 01:18:18,159
scene is certainly entertaining, I'll say that. So so yeah, anyway,

1632
01:18:18,319 --> 01:18:19,600
you know, I just want to kind of mention the

1633
01:18:19,600 --> 01:18:22,680
honest Super Highroller series stuff talking about Monarch. I mean,

1634
01:18:23,680 --> 01:18:25,800
I don't even know where this thing came from. Where

1635
01:18:25,800 --> 01:18:29,520
you're talking about Monarch versus. Okay, So I started Jungleman

1636
01:18:29,600 --> 01:18:35,159
two weeks ago somewhere up in Europe, and and they

1637
01:18:35,239 --> 01:18:40,239
had a two million dollar heads up cash game. Kate's lost,

1638
01:18:40,560 --> 01:18:42,479
not one, but it came out of nowhere. Yeah, he

1639
01:18:42,560 --> 01:18:44,000
was like, all of a sudden, I saw like something

1640
01:18:44,039 --> 01:18:46,399
on like somebody tweeted something and something. I was like,

1641
01:18:46,439 --> 01:18:47,520
what the hell is happening?

1642
01:18:47,560 --> 01:18:51,560
Speaker 2: They come here and he played a heads up match

1643
01:18:51,640 --> 01:18:56,279
with Cameron mackri or something. I think he lost two

1644
01:18:56,319 --> 01:18:58,600
million to him, wanted to play again. It was like

1645
01:18:58,640 --> 01:19:01,600
three am in Cyperci and he's like, no, I gut.

1646
01:19:02,199 --> 01:19:06,000
So they didn't play. Next night they played Kate's I

1647
01:19:06,000 --> 01:19:10,039
think Kate's won a million. Then Monarch won a million.

1648
01:19:10,079 --> 01:19:11,840
Then they played again, Monarch won a million, then they

1649
01:19:11,840 --> 01:19:14,640
played for three million kates one, then they went to five,

1650
01:19:15,520 --> 01:19:17,960
and then they got to six. It was just absurdity.

1651
01:19:18,600 --> 01:19:20,319
And then the next night they played a full ring

1652
01:19:20,359 --> 01:19:23,399
cash game. Monarch dusted six hundred k pretty quickly.

1653
01:19:23,720 --> 01:19:26,039
Speaker 1: I mean, who the hell is Monarch? Nothing against the guy.

1654
01:19:26,039 --> 01:19:28,399
I just like, it's like out of nowhere. It was

1655
01:19:28,439 --> 01:19:30,399
like I just saw something on social media. It was

1656
01:19:30,399 --> 01:19:32,239
like Jungleman's playing Monarch. I was like, who the hell

1657
01:19:32,319 --> 01:19:32,760
is Monarch?

1658
01:19:33,000 --> 01:19:35,159
Speaker 2: He's in you know, he's a Finnish guy. He's like

1659
01:19:35,239 --> 01:19:38,800
the he owns like an e sports company. He I

1660
01:19:38,800 --> 01:19:39,479
think he owns.

1661
01:19:39,560 --> 01:19:42,399
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm assuming se I just always assume Crypto.

1662
01:19:42,920 --> 01:19:45,039
I just assumed Crypto, you know. And it's just like,

1663
01:19:45,079 --> 01:19:47,239
what the hell just happened? So he was also very

1664
01:19:47,279 --> 01:19:49,119
weird to watch them play. I mean I didn't watch

1665
01:19:49,119 --> 01:19:50,560
the whole thing, but I too go in here and there,

1666
01:19:51,079 --> 01:19:55,039
but like one part is they're playing this insanely high

1667
01:19:55,119 --> 01:19:57,560
six matchup, but they had like no chips on the tape.

1668
01:19:57,600 --> 01:19:59,239
I think that's what they wanted, I know, but it

1669
01:19:59,279 --> 01:20:01,840
was just weird for a viewing standpoint. And then second,

1670
01:20:02,760 --> 01:20:07,720
they're like across this massive table. Yeah, and like ninety

1671
01:20:07,760 --> 01:20:09,800
percent of the time that I was watching Jongleman's on

1672
01:20:09,840 --> 01:20:12,920
his phone, so it was just confused.

1673
01:20:13,039 --> 01:20:16,199
Speaker 2: It was yeah, they're on their phone. That wasn't great,

1674
01:20:16,760 --> 01:20:20,000
but I mean it was. It was great to wash

1675
01:20:20,079 --> 01:20:22,239
some of the hands. Monk did this hand where he

1676
01:20:22,279 --> 01:20:26,319
triple barreled six high and Kate's had I think he

1677
01:20:26,359 --> 01:20:30,159
had kings up and uh he ended up folding the river.

1678
01:20:30,319 --> 01:20:33,359
But yeah, crazy action. Yeah, they're on their phones a lot.

1679
01:20:33,439 --> 01:20:36,159
There wasn't much table talk. They had two dealers. Remember

1680
01:20:36,199 --> 01:20:39,000
when they did that. It was millions, like fifteen years ago.

1681
01:20:39,000 --> 01:20:41,399
Remember that one dealer dealing. They had one dealer shuffling,

1682
01:20:41,439 --> 01:20:44,119
So that was good. They're doing some different swit screens.

1683
01:20:44,199 --> 01:20:47,279
Speaker 1: I could have this wrong, but I think Crown was

1684
01:20:47,319 --> 01:20:50,319
the first to do that, not during Ozzie Millions. Remember

1685
01:20:50,319 --> 01:20:53,880
they had that speed poker cham Challengexley.

1686
01:20:53,960 --> 01:20:57,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, the first use of shot Fox was the

1687
01:20:57,119 --> 01:21:00,800
speed poker. But look, it was entertaining. Who knows where

1688
01:21:00,800 --> 01:21:04,319
he gets his money from? Every time they they he lost.

1689
01:21:04,399 --> 01:21:07,640
He wanted to play bigger, play for side money. Kates

1690
01:21:07,640 --> 01:21:11,199
wanted odds. He gave him odds. As long as Kate's

1691
01:21:11,279 --> 01:21:13,319
up the buying from five million to six million, it's

1692
01:21:13,359 --> 01:21:15,640
giving him three point six million to three million dollar odds.

1693
01:21:15,680 --> 01:21:17,800
It was like group chats with all these side bets

1694
01:21:17,840 --> 01:21:20,399
in it and stuff. It was, I don't know, it was.

1695
01:21:20,439 --> 01:21:23,079
It was pretty crazy. It was enjoyable to watch. I

1696
01:21:23,159 --> 01:21:26,239
watched ninety percent of it. I think, so very unplanned

1697
01:21:26,239 --> 01:21:28,680
because even the commentators were just like, yeah, I was

1698
01:21:28,680 --> 01:21:30,640
on the golf course and I got told that, I.

1699
01:21:30,560 --> 01:21:32,960
Speaker 1: Got called on that, you know, I had to just whatever.

1700
01:21:33,000 --> 01:21:35,720
Speaker 2: I had to come down and uh and jump in

1701
01:21:35,760 --> 01:21:38,079
the booth. So they didn't even know what was going on.

1702
01:21:38,159 --> 01:21:40,880
But it was very entertaining, and I hope we see

1703
01:21:40,920 --> 01:21:43,279
some more monarch cash games.

1704
01:21:43,720 --> 01:21:46,199
Speaker 1: I kind of hope that I was thinking about this too,

1705
01:21:46,239 --> 01:21:49,119
Like I hope that I hope he just pops up

1706
01:21:49,199 --> 01:21:52,319
like once every two years, like like he he like

1707
01:21:52,359 --> 01:21:54,640
he doesn't become a thing, because then it makes it

1708
01:21:54,680 --> 01:21:57,600
look more special if he's just like this unicorn, like

1709
01:21:57,640 --> 01:21:59,640
you have no idea what he's gonna pop up. Kind

1710
01:21:59,640 --> 01:22:04,479
of like at least my memory how I think about isolder. Yeah,

1711
01:22:04,520 --> 01:22:06,800
before he was Victor Blob, like you never knew when

1712
01:22:06,800 --> 01:22:09,159
he was gonna play, and then he would just.

1713
01:22:09,079 --> 01:22:10,439
Speaker 2: Pop up rail heaven Boom.

1714
01:22:10,479 --> 01:22:12,600
Speaker 1: They're going like that's it, you know, like it's like, oh,

1715
01:22:12,720 --> 01:22:15,000
he's playing Antonio's heads up for a bazillion dollars, Like

1716
01:22:15,079 --> 01:22:15,439
let's go.

1717
01:22:15,600 --> 01:22:17,520
Speaker 2: I uh. We talked a little bit earlier about the

1718
01:22:17,560 --> 01:22:22,079
High Rolepoker dot com website 'SI Katola. Who is Monarch.

1719
01:22:22,960 --> 01:22:25,479
He is the very top of the losing leader board.

1720
01:22:25,479 --> 01:22:28,479
He's last seven ten point four nine two million dollars,

1721
01:22:29,159 --> 01:22:32,239
so he's the new Guila Liberty in sixteen hours. I'll

1722
01:22:32,239 --> 01:22:35,479
play now. It doesn't have his win versus Jungle the

1723
01:22:35,520 --> 01:22:38,960
first win for two million, So let's just interpret this

1724
01:22:39,000 --> 01:22:41,960
with a grain of salt. He's hourly is negative one million.

1725
01:22:42,479 --> 01:22:45,319
The next worst loser is that the right next best

1726
01:22:45,319 --> 01:22:48,199
loser anyway has only last seven points, The next biggest loser,

1727
01:22:48,239 --> 01:22:50,600
next biggest seven point seven, and if we go to

1728
01:22:50,640 --> 01:22:53,960
the top, who's down seven points zero ton Zwan. They

1729
01:22:53,960 --> 01:22:56,840
did an article on him on Poker News literally three

1730
01:22:56,920 --> 01:22:58,800
days ago about him losing all this money, and then

1731
01:22:58,840 --> 01:23:03,119
Monarch takes his spuck top Dan Kates fourteen point five

1732
01:23:03,159 --> 01:23:06,520
million dollars. He's hourly thirty three k it has rankings

1733
01:23:06,560 --> 01:23:08,920
of how many spots they moved up. He moved up

1734
01:23:08,960 --> 01:23:11,319
four thousand and ninety five spots on this lead aboard.

1735
01:23:11,560 --> 01:23:14,960
He's only like forty two players that they're tracking.

1736
01:23:15,000 --> 01:23:18,600
Speaker 1: But will they track cash of the Titans.

1737
01:23:19,079 --> 01:23:21,560
Speaker 2: I'm assuming so it has high sex poker episodes has

1738
01:23:21,560 --> 01:23:23,680
no gam when our future has streams, assuming they'll add

1739
01:23:23,800 --> 01:23:27,039
the Yeah, we'll see where Gavy really sits before we

1740
01:23:27,079 --> 01:23:27,359
move on.

1741
01:23:27,640 --> 01:23:28,800
Speaker 1: I mean I was going to tell you. I was

1742
01:23:28,800 --> 01:23:30,399
going to say, before we move on, you got something

1743
01:23:30,520 --> 01:23:30,920
for the people.

1744
01:23:31,000 --> 01:23:33,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, we've got for the people. Got another code word

1745
01:23:33,119 --> 01:23:34,800
for that. He's got listening at home. We are giving

1746
01:23:34,840 --> 01:23:38,079
a seat to the million dollar Championship. You can represent

1747
01:23:38,319 --> 01:23:41,600
the Poco podcast. All you gotta do pgt dot com,

1748
01:23:41,640 --> 01:23:44,319
slash stream seat. All the promotions are there, but in particular,

1749
01:23:44,720 --> 01:23:47,199
we have one where you're going to go to gleam.

1750
01:23:47,279 --> 01:23:50,039
It's like the social media website where you can retweet

1751
01:23:50,159 --> 01:23:52,439
and follow us and do all these things and earn

1752
01:23:52,479 --> 01:23:54,880
tickets and we draw a winner a couple months left

1753
01:23:54,880 --> 01:23:58,680
in that for ten raffle tickets, you got to enter

1754
01:23:58,680 --> 01:24:00,640
a code word. You can go back less. Some last

1755
01:24:00,680 --> 01:24:02,600
episodes put in the code word if you want to

1756
01:24:02,640 --> 01:24:05,880
get those ten tickets. This week's code word, it's fitting.

1757
01:24:06,359 --> 01:24:10,399
It's Monarch, the new hero in the High Stakes Cash

1758
01:24:10,439 --> 01:24:14,319
Game World. Monarch m O n A R c H.

1759
01:24:14,399 --> 01:24:16,199
Put that in. You get ten extra raffle tickets. If

1760
01:24:16,199 --> 01:24:19,159
you haven't done it before, that's fine. You get tickets

1761
01:24:19,159 --> 01:24:24,079
for following us, retweeting some PGT tweets, visiting certain pages

1762
01:24:24,119 --> 01:24:26,760
on our website, and if you go listen to the

1763
01:24:26,840 --> 01:24:29,760
last five or six pods, you can get those keywords

1764
01:24:29,880 --> 01:24:32,279
to put them in. But yeah, we're trying to put

1765
01:24:32,279 --> 01:24:35,319
someone in the PGT Million Dollar Championship. Represent us. Sit

1766
01:24:35,439 --> 01:24:40,319
against Osmas, you know, Negranu, Fox and the heroes of

1767
01:24:40,359 --> 01:24:44,159
the PGT hopefully kick them out, knock them out and

1768
01:24:44,199 --> 01:24:47,079
win the win the PGT Championship for yourself.

1769
01:24:47,359 --> 01:24:54,239
Speaker 1: Let's go WSIP Paradise. They dropped their schedule December fourth

1770
01:24:54,399 --> 01:24:59,720
through eighteenth, down in the Bahamas at the Atlantis Paradise

1771
01:24:59,760 --> 01:25:02,600
I Island Resorts. I believe that's a couple of days

1772
01:25:02,640 --> 01:25:05,840
earlier than last year. Maybe I'm wrong there, but that's

1773
01:25:05,880 --> 01:25:10,560
my recollection. Fifteen Gold Bracelet events. The Super Main Event returns.

1774
01:25:11,199 --> 01:25:13,239
That's not new news. Of course they did announce that

1775
01:25:13,319 --> 01:25:16,680
during this summer's was be main event, but it returns

1776
01:25:16,720 --> 01:25:21,840
with a sixty million dollar guarantee. They said, you know what,

1777
01:25:21,920 --> 01:25:25,119
fifty wasn't enough. It doesn't matter, We're going to sixty.

1778
01:25:25,720 --> 01:25:33,960
Let's go baby, I mean wild wild. They also have

1779
01:25:34,079 --> 01:25:37,479
a two seven hundred and fifty dollars circuit Championship Mystery

1780
01:25:37,479 --> 01:25:39,279
Bounty with a five million dollar guarantee.

1781
01:25:39,439 --> 01:25:42,720
Speaker 2: That's the doc right, that's basically the new teams I

1782
01:25:42,720 --> 01:25:43,039
think so.

1783
01:25:43,159 --> 01:25:45,600
Speaker 1: Yes. That's also the lowest buying on the schedule. Yeah,

1784
01:25:45,640 --> 01:25:48,880
this is very much made for high buying players, some

1785
01:25:48,880 --> 01:25:51,880
would say super players. They have the fifty three hundred

1786
01:25:51,880 --> 01:25:56,039
dollars Super Colossus, and then they have six Triton events,

1787
01:25:56,039 --> 01:25:58,239
at least that's what I count. Six events had the

1788
01:25:58,239 --> 01:26:02,399
Triton name in them. So I mean thoughts on the schedule.

1789
01:26:03,199 --> 01:26:05,520
Speaker 2: Well, first of all, it's very ballsy up in the

1790
01:26:05,560 --> 01:26:07,760
guarantee after you missed it the year before. But but

1791
01:26:08,079 --> 01:26:10,720
I thought they made it well with the way they

1792
01:26:10,920 --> 01:26:14,159
do the numbers. They missed it, how do you know?

1793
01:26:14,279 --> 01:26:17,720
I think they made it? You know, okay, whatever, they

1794
01:26:17,760 --> 01:26:19,800
made it, yes, and then they have to still take

1795
01:26:19,840 --> 01:26:22,000
the fees out after they made it, so it actually

1796
01:26:22,039 --> 01:26:26,560
went under. So that's ambitious, but good on them putting

1797
01:26:26,560 --> 01:26:30,600
more money in the community. This is, without doubt a

1798
01:26:30,680 --> 01:26:33,600
high roll or only series, and that's fine if that's

1799
01:26:33,640 --> 01:26:36,880
what they're targeting. I get it. You got all these

1800
01:26:36,880 --> 01:26:40,880
big buying events, lots of entries, lots of re entries.

1801
01:26:41,239 --> 01:26:45,239
You know, it's a very expensive trip, you know, chasing bracelets.

1802
01:26:45,760 --> 01:26:48,159
You talk about that twenty seven hundred dollars circuit event.

1803
01:26:49,239 --> 01:26:51,199
If you know, I know, you do win a package,

1804
01:26:51,600 --> 01:26:55,800
right if you qualify? Is that enough if you're a

1805
01:26:55,840 --> 01:26:58,640
circuit grinder, because you can't if you're you know, let's

1806
01:26:58,640 --> 01:27:01,680
talk about these circuit grinders. Ninety eight percent of them.

1807
01:27:02,600 --> 01:27:04,840
This is a big mind, twenty seven hundred dollars, right,

1808
01:27:04,920 --> 01:27:07,479
they play a lot smaller. They're grinders. They're playing the

1809
01:27:07,479 --> 01:27:09,439
four hundreds, the six is, the eight hundreds, you know,

1810
01:27:09,479 --> 01:27:12,920
et cetera. So will they decide to go there to

1811
01:27:13,000 --> 01:27:15,520
play you know, a mistery bounty event, knowing that they

1812
01:27:15,560 --> 01:27:18,600
probably can't really play anything else, or will they give

1813
01:27:18,640 --> 01:27:22,520
that up to possibly play something with more value to them,

1814
01:27:22,600 --> 01:27:26,000
maybe here in Las Vegas. So it is what this

1815
01:27:26,079 --> 01:27:29,560
schedule is it's built for high rollers. I hate it.

1816
01:27:30,560 --> 01:27:33,000
On what I don't like it? It's high it's a

1817
01:27:33,039 --> 01:27:34,279
high roller Braces series.

1818
01:27:34,399 --> 01:27:36,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I don't I don't mind that. I feel

1819
01:27:36,720 --> 01:27:40,079
like I feel like there is certainly appetite in the market,

1820
01:27:40,159 --> 01:27:43,239
there is this sort of stuff. There is the part

1821
01:27:43,279 --> 01:27:46,319
I don't like. I mean, I understand why they did it,

1822
01:27:46,399 --> 01:27:49,720
but I personally just don't think that they need to

1823
01:27:49,720 --> 01:27:51,159
do it. Like I don't think you need to partner

1824
01:27:51,159 --> 01:27:55,119
with Triton. I think the Dubasby brand itself is big enough.

1825
01:27:55,560 --> 01:27:58,159
Like so I I just I would do this on

1826
01:27:58,199 --> 01:28:00,239
my own, Like I think you can do it on

1827
01:28:00,279 --> 01:28:00,520
your own.

1828
01:28:00,520 --> 01:28:03,720
Speaker 2: I think you didn't have a Trent event, you know,

1829
01:28:04,399 --> 01:28:06,439
I guess they lost them, says if we didn't have

1830
01:28:06,479 --> 01:28:08,439
the Trent and would we still get the same numbers

1831
01:28:08,439 --> 01:28:10,600
in those high roles. Does having that try and brand

1832
01:28:10,640 --> 01:28:13,399
bring some of those real try and loyalists, you know,

1833
01:28:13,439 --> 01:28:15,119
out to play this event? And possibly?

1834
01:28:15,239 --> 01:28:16,800
Speaker 1: I mean, I think I think a lot of those

1835
01:28:16,840 --> 01:28:20,279
Triton players would love to come to the disipy in

1836
01:28:20,319 --> 01:28:23,960
the States, but for various reasons they don't, largely taxes

1837
01:28:24,000 --> 01:28:27,439
and stuff. But this is the Bahamas so I think

1838
01:28:27,479 --> 01:28:30,279
that they would probably go down here and play. So

1839
01:28:30,479 --> 01:28:32,720
I mean, I mean, maybe you lose a percentage of them,

1840
01:28:32,920 --> 01:28:35,199
but I still think you would get enough. I also

1841
01:28:35,239 --> 01:28:38,800
think that if you just did a lot of qualification

1842
01:28:39,680 --> 01:28:42,439
to all these different buyings on the GG poker platform,

1843
01:28:42,439 --> 01:28:44,199
which I'm sure they do any of, yes, but like

1844
01:28:44,319 --> 01:28:46,000
you're going to get a lot of those guys that

1845
01:28:46,039 --> 01:28:48,000
are playing there that are like, Okay, you know, I'll

1846
01:28:48,000 --> 01:28:49,680
take some shots and win. Maybe I went into this

1847
01:28:49,760 --> 01:28:50,520
hundred care or whatever.

1848
01:28:51,159 --> 01:28:54,720
Speaker 2: So I still wish this was just I know there's

1849
01:28:54,760 --> 01:28:58,800
a little battle going on. I just really wish this

1850
01:28:58,920 --> 01:29:02,319
was in January different time, you know, because we're going

1851
01:29:02,399 --> 01:29:04,319
to probably touch on a little bit the win that

1852
01:29:04,359 --> 01:29:07,319
the WBT World Championship here for sure to win. But

1853
01:29:07,359 --> 01:29:10,760
don't forget one of the biggest stops in Europe is

1854
01:29:10,840 --> 01:29:13,720
running at the same time as this EPT Prague, and

1855
01:29:13,760 --> 01:29:17,760
that had I believe, record breaking numbers. Right. Is that back? Yeah?

1856
01:29:17,760 --> 01:29:22,159
I have it on my schedule. I just I just.

1857
01:29:22,159 --> 01:29:23,760
Speaker 1: I can't remember if it's been back or now. I

1858
01:29:23,800 --> 01:29:25,760
mean it's probably back, but yeah it is. I have

1859
01:29:25,880 --> 01:29:29,399
some of the December third through fourteenth. I just don't

1860
01:29:29,560 --> 01:29:30,399
like the BATTLEPT.

1861
01:29:30,960 --> 01:29:34,079
Speaker 2: You know, there's when you're talking about fifty K buying,

1862
01:29:34,119 --> 01:29:36,279
twenty five K, bye hundred K buyings. It's a very

1863
01:29:36,279 --> 01:29:40,439
small play pool. And you know you have these events

1864
01:29:40,479 --> 01:29:42,439
on at EPT Prague. They have a fifty K super

1865
01:29:42,520 --> 01:29:45,079
high roller, they have a ten K ten K high roller,

1866
01:29:45,119 --> 01:29:47,439
and they have five k Maine. You know, you've got

1867
01:29:47,439 --> 01:29:49,960
the win. Whatever they're going to be doing, it's really

1868
01:29:50,359 --> 01:29:53,880
stretching that playpool out. So just if this was November,

1869
01:29:53,920 --> 01:29:55,640
if this was January, if this is a different time,

1870
01:29:56,159 --> 01:29:58,119
you can have one hundred percent of the market share

1871
01:29:58,560 --> 01:30:01,159
and then you can have your staying high buying events.

1872
01:30:01,159 --> 01:30:03,439
You could also probably have another twenty lower buying events

1873
01:30:03,439 --> 01:30:06,720
and really make this, you know, a second World series

1874
01:30:06,760 --> 01:30:10,199
outside of Vegas. So that's my only really grap about this.

1875
01:30:10,359 --> 01:30:12,479
But look, people are going to go there because they

1876
01:30:12,479 --> 01:30:13,960
want to play big, they want to win a lot

1877
01:30:13,960 --> 01:30:16,399
of money, they want to chase bracelets. I just think

1878
01:30:16,399 --> 01:30:19,199
they're leaving a lot of fat in the barn by

1879
01:30:19,319 --> 01:30:22,000
making these buyings so big and picking these exact dates.

1880
01:30:24,399 --> 01:30:27,199
Speaker 1: I like the fact that they're skewing the buying higher,

1881
01:30:27,439 --> 01:30:30,000
you know, I think that that's clearly what this series

1882
01:30:30,079 --> 01:30:33,359
is made for, and then because of that, I probably

1883
01:30:33,399 --> 01:30:36,479
wouldn't have this twenty five hundred, Like I just like

1884
01:30:36,560 --> 01:30:39,800
I just wouldn't, you know, I would probably have nothing

1885
01:30:39,920 --> 01:30:42,560
lower than a ten k, Like I would have a

1886
01:30:42,560 --> 01:30:44,359
few ten k's on the schedule. You obviously have the

1887
01:30:44,359 --> 01:30:46,279
twenty five k super main event, and then you know,

1888
01:30:46,319 --> 01:30:48,199
do whatever you want for a fifty k, s, hundred k's,

1889
01:30:48,399 --> 01:30:48,840
et cetera.

1890
01:30:49,680 --> 01:30:50,920
Speaker 2: But I feel like.

1891
01:30:50,920 --> 01:30:56,359
Speaker 1: The the twenty five hundred Circuit Championship, I mean, that's

1892
01:30:56,960 --> 01:31:00,880
square peg round hole like it Like that's doesn't fit.

1893
01:31:01,640 --> 01:31:04,600
Like obviously this is clearly, at least to me, a

1894
01:31:04,960 --> 01:31:10,479
high roller series, So why are you then inviting that

1895
01:31:10,479 --> 01:31:14,000
that down there? I think you can do that elsewhere.

1896
01:31:14,079 --> 01:31:16,640
Like I just always still feel like that Circuit Championship

1897
01:31:16,640 --> 01:31:18,680
should like be during the summer. That's when everyone is

1898
01:31:18,720 --> 01:31:19,159
in Vegas.

1899
01:31:19,159 --> 01:31:21,039
Speaker 2: You're going to get the biggest numbers, like et cetera.

1900
01:31:21,279 --> 01:31:24,520
Speaker 1: Like most eyeballs are on you know, celebration of it,

1901
01:31:24,560 --> 01:31:28,600
blah blah blah. Yeah so yeah, so I mean, but

1902
01:31:28,680 --> 01:31:32,880
I like the fact that they go, you know, fully

1903
01:31:32,960 --> 01:31:37,079
high roller with it. I mean, I think this is

1904
01:31:37,119 --> 01:31:40,560
clearly catered towards ones like specific player. Basically it's it's

1905
01:31:40,640 --> 01:31:44,279
the high roller and that's fine. You know. They basically

1906
01:31:44,359 --> 01:31:46,600
are like, Okay, this is that this little like narrow

1907
01:31:46,640 --> 01:31:48,159
path that we're going down with this, and that's what

1908
01:31:48,159 --> 01:31:48,680
it's going to be.

1909
01:31:49,399 --> 01:31:49,720
Speaker 2: Now.

1910
01:31:50,800 --> 01:31:52,600
Speaker 1: I will say that, and I will say like, this

1911
01:31:52,640 --> 01:31:55,039
is also why and I advocated for this last year.

1912
01:31:55,359 --> 01:31:59,119
I think WPT for their December stuff should go a

1913
01:31:59,119 --> 01:32:02,600
bit the other way like where I say that in

1914
01:32:02,640 --> 01:32:05,960
my opinion wy Paradise, or at least my thought right now,

1915
01:32:06,079 --> 01:32:09,439
is that they should have the lowest buying be ten k. Yeah,

1916
01:32:10,439 --> 01:32:13,279
WPT World Championship. I feel like the highest buying should

1917
01:32:13,319 --> 01:32:15,680
be the ten K World Championship and everything else should

1918
01:32:15,720 --> 01:32:19,479
be between like five hundred to five thousand. And like

1919
01:32:19,520 --> 01:32:22,439
you you try and go for that market, right and

1920
01:32:22,520 --> 01:32:25,560
you also another like another piece of the market that

1921
01:32:25,600 --> 01:32:28,800
I think WPT World Championship like can go for and

1922
01:32:28,960 --> 01:32:30,600
I think they do try and go for it is

1923
01:32:31,119 --> 01:32:35,039
the mixed game crowd, because there's no mixed games on

1924
01:32:35,119 --> 01:32:39,560
the the Paradise schedule, right. I know they had the

1925
01:32:39,600 --> 01:32:40,920
one well I know they had the one.

1926
01:32:41,119 --> 01:32:42,880
Speaker 2: Was it an eight game? I think they have it so.

1927
01:32:43,239 --> 01:32:45,239
Speaker 1: They do the eight game mix, it's ten K buying,

1928
01:32:46,039 --> 01:32:48,800
but wasn't that twenty five K last twenty that's the

1929
01:32:48,800 --> 01:32:50,720
one Walterson one deal is choice.

1930
01:32:50,479 --> 01:32:52,239
Speaker 2: And they couldn't make a deal his choice because they

1931
01:32:52,239 --> 01:32:53,560
didn't have all the games.

1932
01:32:53,000 --> 01:32:56,319
Speaker 1: So I find that interesting that that's like I would

1933
01:32:56,399 --> 01:32:58,039
I would, honestly if I was as I would just

1934
01:32:58,039 --> 01:32:59,920
throw it out out, like what's the point, you know,

1935
01:33:00,159 --> 01:33:04,000
I don't think that that even matters, right, yeah, I

1936
01:33:04,000 --> 01:33:05,800
mean unless you're gonna have more of them to draw

1937
01:33:05,840 --> 01:33:07,960
on more of that crowd. I just don't even think

1938
01:33:07,960 --> 01:33:12,479
that that's like, just have a ten G six hundred plo,

1939
01:33:12,680 --> 01:33:15,119
ten K six hred half and half five car po

1940
01:33:15,159 --> 01:33:18,239
out whatever, you know, something like that, and then you

1941
01:33:18,239 --> 01:33:21,439
know again. WPT who they announced their dates for December

1942
01:33:21,479 --> 01:33:24,119
second through twenty second, and then they don't have like

1943
01:33:24,159 --> 01:33:26,000
specific dates to the tournaments. They don't have the full

1944
01:33:26,039 --> 01:33:28,560
tournament schedule, but they did say that the ten four

1945
01:33:28,640 --> 01:33:31,439
hundred dollars WPT World Championship will have three starting flights

1946
01:33:32,079 --> 01:33:36,119
starting on December thirteenth. The WPT Prime Championship has four

1947
01:33:36,159 --> 01:33:39,439
starting flights and that's gonna start on December seventh, So

1948
01:33:40,640 --> 01:33:45,880
I'm also curious, you know, what does the WPT do

1949
01:33:46,520 --> 01:33:52,960
because two years ago, Kurt right, they did the forty million. Yeah,

1950
01:33:53,439 --> 01:33:55,399
and then that's kind of what sparked this whole thing. Oh,

1951
01:33:55,439 --> 01:33:57,439
you're gonna do forty million, We're gonna do fifty million.

1952
01:33:57,439 --> 01:34:00,840
You know, they missed the forty million. Now w SP's

1953
01:34:00,880 --> 01:34:03,479
over here going, not only did we do fifty, we're

1954
01:34:03,520 --> 01:34:08,119
going to go to sixty. Okay, WPT ditch their guarantee entirely.

1955
01:34:08,640 --> 01:34:09,000
Speaker 2: Now.

1956
01:34:09,520 --> 01:34:14,600
Speaker 1: They did do very well on the turnout for that event,

1957
01:34:15,079 --> 01:34:19,079
even without a guarantee, right, I think that they did

1958
01:34:19,119 --> 01:34:22,920
better than I thought they would do. So that's a

1959
01:34:22,920 --> 01:34:27,279
win in my opinion for the WPT. They got what

1960
01:34:27,319 --> 01:34:29,760
two thousand I think it was, yeah, twenty three hundred

1961
01:34:29,760 --> 01:34:32,359
and ninety two, which I think is freaking incredible for

1962
01:34:32,399 --> 01:34:36,840
a ten K, especially with no guarantee. I am curious

1963
01:34:36,880 --> 01:34:40,119
to see if they do it without a guarantee, Like,

1964
01:34:40,560 --> 01:34:43,439
do we start to see this this downward trend. I'm

1965
01:34:43,479 --> 01:34:45,560
always big on like, you know, don't freak out after

1966
01:34:45,600 --> 01:34:49,640
like one instance of something, But if you start seeing trends,

1967
01:34:49,960 --> 01:34:51,319
that's when you start like being.

1968
01:34:51,119 --> 01:34:52,800
Speaker 2: Like, okay, so well the thing.

1969
01:34:52,840 --> 01:34:55,239
Speaker 1: But also last year is they even though they didn't

1970
01:34:55,279 --> 01:34:58,319
have the guarantee, they had that five million dollar free roll.

1971
01:34:58,479 --> 01:35:00,479
So like like, we haven't heard it anything about a

1972
01:35:00,479 --> 01:35:02,960
free role, So like what are they?

1973
01:35:03,239 --> 01:35:03,600
Speaker 2: What are they?

1974
01:35:03,680 --> 01:35:06,000
Speaker 1: What is their pop? What is like this is our

1975
01:35:06,039 --> 01:35:06,880
shiny object?

1976
01:35:06,920 --> 01:35:09,720
Speaker 2: What is it? Yeah, I mean we have to see

1977
01:35:09,720 --> 01:35:12,520
Obviously we're talking August right now. It's we don't know

1978
01:35:12,520 --> 01:35:15,560
where that sweepsakes market's going to be in December, right,

1979
01:35:15,640 --> 01:35:17,680
so that's going to matter a lot. You have to

1980
01:35:17,720 --> 01:35:20,000
remember you said there's no guarantee on that event, but

1981
01:35:20,239 --> 01:35:23,640
there was in a way a million dollar guarantee because

1982
01:35:23,680 --> 01:35:26,520
they gave a hundred seats out for that event. I mean,

1983
01:35:26,520 --> 01:35:29,680
that's something guarantee, something guarantee. But you know that number

1984
01:35:29,680 --> 01:35:31,680
includes one hundred extra players. I was one of them

1985
01:35:31,800 --> 01:35:33,039
that want to say, sure that one.

1986
01:35:33,039 --> 01:35:35,039
Speaker 1: Hundred may But what I'm saying, we haven't heard any

1987
01:35:35,079 --> 01:35:36,880
of that stuff. True, true, But I'm just at some

1988
01:35:36,920 --> 01:35:38,640
point you have to start marketing that. I mean it

1989
01:35:38,680 --> 01:35:39,880
is almost going to be September.

1990
01:35:40,000 --> 01:35:41,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say that if I was to guess,

1991
01:35:41,920 --> 01:35:44,720
they would maybe do something very similar. I don't think

1992
01:35:44,720 --> 01:35:47,359
we'll see guarantee. It's more of a question of what

1993
01:35:47,439 --> 01:35:49,960
will will there be some kind of five million dollar

1994
01:35:50,039 --> 01:35:53,079
free role promotion kind of effort around that, I would

1995
01:35:53,119 --> 01:35:55,960
say that if without that, I would say that the

1996
01:35:56,079 --> 01:35:59,520
numbers will most likely be very similar or even more.

1997
01:36:00,279 --> 01:36:03,359
You know, I think I think Paradise is a little

1998
01:36:03,359 --> 01:36:07,319
stay off for some people. So I see people don't going.

1999
01:36:08,680 --> 01:36:10,479
I think you can still go to Paradise, come back.

2000
01:36:10,520 --> 01:36:12,359
We you know, we talked to Jeremy Osmas. You know,

2001
01:36:12,439 --> 01:36:14,680
he was at my that my main event table that day,

2002
01:36:14,680 --> 01:36:15,640
and he goes, yeah, I was sick of it. I

2003
01:36:15,640 --> 01:36:17,279
had to come back. I think we'll see a bit

2004
01:36:17,319 --> 01:36:19,920
of that. You know, we mentioned it last week, but

2005
01:36:19,920 --> 01:36:22,359
we got to talk about the bitcoin price. You know,

2006
01:36:22,399 --> 01:36:25,279
that will affect things a little bit too. So yeah,

2007
01:36:25,279 --> 01:36:28,520
I would think that people would prefer to congregreatee here.

2008
01:36:29,039 --> 01:36:31,600
You know, we're going to throw in whatever Ari is doing.

2009
01:36:31,680 --> 01:36:33,720
You know, they did something new last year for December.

2010
01:36:33,840 --> 01:36:35,640
I'm going to say that they're doing something this year

2011
01:36:36,199 --> 01:36:38,720
that will contribute to people wanting to come here and

2012
01:36:39,239 --> 01:36:42,880
turn December into a mini summer right where you know,

2013
01:36:42,880 --> 01:36:45,439
everyone's got competing things. We're gonna have win we can

2014
01:36:45,479 --> 01:36:48,720
have you know, we can have the MGM properties. You know,

2015
01:36:48,960 --> 01:36:51,520
you can get a lot of value. We should have PGT.

2016
01:36:52,159 --> 01:36:54,960
We do have PGT events called the PGT Rags Riches.

2017
01:36:55,119 --> 01:36:59,920
We should have PGTREGT. We should, but it's too hot.

2018
01:37:00,119 --> 01:37:01,079
Speaker 1: You're too much of a knit.

2019
01:37:01,520 --> 01:37:04,119
Speaker 2: Not a knit. You're a knit. Not a knit, You're

2020
01:37:04,159 --> 01:37:06,720
a knit. It's just in the schedule for it.

2021
01:37:06,880 --> 01:37:09,640
Speaker 1: Yes, there is. You know what we should do. I

2022
01:37:09,640 --> 01:37:12,640
know exactly what we should do. We should have like

2023
01:37:12,720 --> 01:37:17,600
five twenty five case what dice whenever the win is,

2024
01:37:17,880 --> 01:37:21,199
whenever the wind is running some fifteen hundred.

2025
01:37:22,159 --> 01:37:23,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, they they're smart enough.

2026
01:37:23,560 --> 01:37:26,439
Speaker 1: Tene you You are in no way, shape or form

2027
01:37:26,640 --> 01:37:29,840
scared to do ten k's and fifteen k's when the

2028
01:37:29,880 --> 01:37:30,840
regular World Series of.

2029
01:37:30,800 --> 01:37:33,600
Speaker 2: Poker is running, says everyone's here.

2030
01:37:33,840 --> 01:37:36,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, and enough people will be here that will want

2031
01:37:36,359 --> 01:37:40,119
to come play a twenty five k nothing less than

2032
01:37:40,159 --> 01:37:41,880
a twenty five kids, I'll have like four or five

2033
01:37:42,079 --> 01:37:42,920
twenty five case.

2034
01:37:43,279 --> 01:37:48,520
Speaker 2: I think it's the user. It's the user. But yeah,

2035
01:37:48,640 --> 01:37:50,560
I'm going to bet it goes up. We really have

2036
01:37:50,560 --> 01:37:51,159
to see what happens.

2037
01:37:51,319 --> 01:37:53,479
Speaker 1: I'm going to say it dips slightly. And I say

2038
01:37:53,479 --> 01:37:58,039
that because I mean minimum dips slightly. I think that's

2039
01:37:58,039 --> 01:38:00,319
the biggest barometer in poker.

2040
01:38:00,600 --> 01:38:02,880
Speaker 2: Sure, but we had travel regulations and all kinds of

2041
01:38:02,880 --> 01:38:05,039
other issues with them. Also.

2042
01:38:05,239 --> 01:38:10,439
Speaker 1: Listen, I know you can say that that people have

2043
01:38:11,600 --> 01:38:14,279
soured a little bit on going to the Bahamas in Paradise,

2044
01:38:14,439 --> 01:38:18,439
and I have heard the same things. Yeah, it is

2045
01:38:18,520 --> 01:38:21,800
ten million dollars more. Guaranteed, they got to get people

2046
01:38:21,800 --> 01:38:23,720
from somewhere. They gotta put them in.

2047
01:38:23,760 --> 01:38:24,960
Speaker 2: You gotta put up twenty five k.

2048
01:38:26,039 --> 01:38:29,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, but they said they're going to qualify a thousand people.

2049
01:38:29,960 --> 01:38:32,039
How much those people got to qualify from somewhere?

2050
01:38:32,039 --> 01:38:34,479
Speaker 2: How much does the rule changes that they made last

2051
01:38:34,520 --> 01:38:37,680
year annoy people that were there where they're like, I'm

2052
01:38:37,680 --> 01:38:38,399
not going.

2053
01:38:38,439 --> 01:38:40,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure, I'm sure, I'm sure there's some of that. Yes,

2054
01:38:41,000 --> 01:38:42,920
but I'm saying, remember, remember they're still going to cram

2055
01:38:43,039 --> 01:38:45,960
people in via satellites. And maybe those people because there

2056
01:38:46,000 --> 01:38:48,800
was enough internationals that came to the win in December,

2057
01:38:49,319 --> 01:38:53,000
maybe those like and maybe maybe in you know, last year,

2058
01:38:53,079 --> 01:38:56,479
maybe they came because let's say they didn't win a package.

2059
01:38:56,520 --> 01:38:58,439
They tried to win a package, right, and they just

2060
01:38:58,439 --> 01:39:00,199
didn't win one. So they're like, Okay, whatever, I'll go

2061
01:39:00,279 --> 01:39:02,119
to the win, you know, not a big deal. I'm

2062
01:39:02,159 --> 01:39:04,439
kind of over the Bahamas anyway, I'll go to the win.

2063
01:39:04,640 --> 01:39:07,600
It's not as expensive to go to Vegas versus going

2064
01:39:07,640 --> 01:39:09,640
to Atlantis, Like, okay, I'll just go to the win.

2065
01:39:10,239 --> 01:39:11,800
What if they end what if those people end up

2066
01:39:11,800 --> 01:39:14,880
winning a package? Right, Like, I'm just like, I don't know.

2067
01:39:15,079 --> 01:39:17,439
I just think it's gonna be like I think we're

2068
01:39:17,439 --> 01:39:20,439
gonna see something similar in the Bahamas where they're basically

2069
01:39:20,479 --> 01:39:23,199
like right at sixty million for the prize Bowl, like

2070
01:39:23,239 --> 01:39:25,439
once again, just like they were basically right at fifty

2071
01:39:25,439 --> 01:39:28,359
million dollars, right, So maybe if they take the fees out,

2072
01:39:28,399 --> 01:39:30,239
they dip below it whatever, like, but I don't think

2073
01:39:30,239 --> 01:39:32,439
they're gonna like, I mean, I maybe they will, but

2074
01:39:32,479 --> 01:39:34,239
I don't think they're gonna like get seventy five million

2075
01:39:34,279 --> 01:39:35,680
in the prize I go out of nowhere. I think

2076
01:39:35,680 --> 01:39:38,039
it's gonna be like very close to sixty. And then

2077
01:39:38,079 --> 01:39:40,640
I think WPT is probably gonna be like twenty two hundred,

2078
01:39:40,960 --> 01:39:42,880
which is like not even like that big of a dip.

2079
01:39:43,399 --> 01:39:46,560
So it's it's whatever. I'm more curious as it relates

2080
01:39:46,560 --> 01:39:49,840
to the WPT, like I almost don't like I guess

2081
01:39:49,840 --> 01:39:51,479
this is probably a bad way to phrase it, but

2082
01:39:51,520 --> 01:39:54,039
I just almost don't care about the World Championship, Like

2083
01:39:54,079 --> 01:39:58,399
iow it just be like I think. I know, it's

2084
01:39:58,439 --> 01:40:01,159
obviously big and it's great whatever, but I don't know.

2085
01:40:01,199 --> 01:40:03,239
I like big shiny objects, man, So like when you

2086
01:40:03,279 --> 01:40:04,680
had a big guarantee on it, it was just a

2087
01:40:04,720 --> 01:40:09,119
shiny object to me. To me, did I play it

2088
01:40:09,159 --> 01:40:11,920
last year? I did not play it last year. I

2089
01:40:11,960 --> 01:40:13,800
did not play it last year because I did not

2090
01:40:13,920 --> 01:40:15,760
like the fact that I didn't have a guarantee. I

2091
01:40:15,800 --> 01:40:17,399
thought that that would play into the fact that it

2092
01:40:17,439 --> 01:40:19,880
made the tournament a little bit harder because you don't

2093
01:40:19,960 --> 01:40:21,880
you don't have to cram in a bunch of qualifiers.

2094
01:40:22,279 --> 01:40:24,760
Speaker 2: They crammed me in then and my money way.

2095
01:40:24,680 --> 01:40:29,560
Speaker 1: And honestly, I did think it was somewhat difficult, like

2096
01:40:29,720 --> 01:40:32,359
more difficult than than I would have liked to if

2097
01:40:32,359 --> 01:40:34,159
I'm gonna, you know, stretch myself for a ten K.

2098
01:40:34,760 --> 01:40:37,359
Now I am one hundred and sixty third best player

2099
01:40:37,359 --> 01:40:39,560
in the world, so maybe I will try and come back.

2100
01:40:39,760 --> 01:40:42,079
Speaker 2: You should you should make yeah, And I did.

2101
01:40:42,399 --> 01:40:44,079
Speaker 1: I did cash that tournament once. I can't remember what

2102
01:40:44,560 --> 01:40:47,079
place was that two hundred and something something?

2103
01:40:47,119 --> 01:40:50,520
Speaker 2: This is you know once that once it's vent Ron's.

2104
01:40:50,560 --> 01:40:52,479
That's this is the new one chance. I think I'm

2105
01:40:52,560 --> 01:40:54,239
up in ten k events, so you have to defend

2106
01:40:54,239 --> 01:40:56,279
your one hundred and sixty third place. I should look

2107
01:40:56,319 --> 01:40:58,279
at that up. If I'm up in ten ks, how

2108
01:40:58,279 --> 01:41:00,119
many events you pay? Just do a simple map. You

2109
01:41:00,199 --> 01:41:07,239
made four men cash and you're basically even there two No,

2110
01:41:07,479 --> 01:41:08,680
no you you played?

2111
01:41:08,800 --> 01:41:12,319
Speaker 1: I played one. I played one w PT for sure.

2112
01:41:12,319 --> 01:41:14,439
I can't remember I played the second year? Did I? Ye?

2113
01:41:14,520 --> 01:41:16,079
I had to because it went it went, yeah, because

2114
01:41:16,119 --> 01:41:18,000
I I cashed the first year. It was small mine

2115
01:41:18,880 --> 01:41:22,680
in ten case, Yeah, I'm winning, crushing life, crush, but

2116
01:41:22,720 --> 01:41:23,520
you know, absolutely crush.

2117
01:41:23,600 --> 01:41:25,159
Speaker 2: You have to defend you one hundred and sixty third

2118
01:41:25,199 --> 01:41:27,640
place in this event because this is the World Championship.

2119
01:41:27,840 --> 01:41:29,680
Speaker 1: Look up when I cashed another one?

2120
01:41:29,920 --> 01:41:33,359
Speaker 2: Why you have to defend you? That's all I'm saying.

2121
01:41:33,359 --> 01:41:35,560
Speaker 1: You got to defend the reason why I say that. Listen,

2122
01:41:35,680 --> 01:41:37,199
I know people are going to get mad the way

2123
01:41:37,239 --> 01:41:39,840
phrase it, but whatever, I don't care. I think the

2124
01:41:39,880 --> 01:41:43,000
big shiny object for the WPT World Championship schedule is

2125
01:41:43,039 --> 01:41:46,520
the WPT Prime Championship, Like that, to me is the

2126
01:41:46,560 --> 01:41:51,199
big shiny object. That's the one where it's eleven d

2127
01:41:51,319 --> 01:41:55,239
by in right, so there's eleven hundred, right, and it

2128
01:41:55,279 --> 01:41:59,720
gets ten thousand people, Like it's freaking ridiculous. That's the

2129
01:41:59,760 --> 01:42:02,680
one where like you can send press releases out afterwards

2130
01:42:02,720 --> 01:42:04,880
because it's like this is the record setter for this

2131
01:42:04,960 --> 01:42:07,439
and that like that's the one to me, you know,

2132
01:42:07,960 --> 01:42:11,159
So like I just feel like that because they took

2133
01:42:11,199 --> 01:42:13,680
away from the WPT World Championship. Yes I know it

2134
01:42:13,720 --> 01:42:15,880
got almost twenty four hundred entries, Yes I get it,

2135
01:42:16,159 --> 01:42:19,520
but ultimately you scaled it back quite a bit. Like

2136
01:42:19,600 --> 01:42:22,800
I just, to me, the WPT Prime Championship is whereas at.

2137
01:42:22,880 --> 01:42:24,880
So that's why I say that, like I would kind

2138
01:42:24,880 --> 01:42:29,600
of build the schedule around that type of player versus

2139
01:42:29,600 --> 01:42:32,680
trying to build the schedule around the ten KWPT World Championship.

2140
01:42:34,000 --> 01:42:35,920
Would I would still have that, of course, and it

2141
01:42:35,920 --> 01:42:38,720
would be the headliner, you know, or one of the

2142
01:42:38,760 --> 01:42:42,960
focal points, right the cap on it all, But I

2143
01:42:42,960 --> 01:42:45,640
would focus on like again the five hundred dollars buy

2144
01:42:45,640 --> 01:42:48,039
into the five k buy in price point. I would

2145
01:42:48,079 --> 01:42:50,479
focus on a lot of mixed games, and I would

2146
01:42:50,479 --> 01:42:55,560
try and cram basically every circuit mid May major grinder

2147
01:42:56,079 --> 01:42:58,239
into Las Vegas in December.

2148
01:42:58,520 --> 01:42:59,159
Speaker 2: That's my goal.

2149
01:43:00,000 --> 01:43:01,760
Speaker 1: Would look at WSP and I would say, listen, you

2150
01:43:01,760 --> 01:43:05,000
guys can have the high rollers. That's totally fine. We

2151
01:43:05,079 --> 01:43:08,439
can all co exist here. And if I was WSP,

2152
01:43:08,479 --> 01:43:10,119
which I think WSP did a good job of, I

2153
01:43:10,119 --> 01:43:12,399
would say you can have all the you know, mid

2154
01:43:12,479 --> 01:43:15,920
stakes type of players, which I think WSP for the

2155
01:43:15,920 --> 01:43:17,840
most probably I know they have that circuit championship, yes,

2156
01:43:17,880 --> 01:43:19,880
but for the most part, everything else is big, big

2157
01:43:19,880 --> 01:43:22,199
buy and stuff. Right, So it's like we're over here,

2158
01:43:22,479 --> 01:43:24,119
you guys can be over there and we can all

2159
01:43:24,159 --> 01:43:26,359
co exist and poker in general can just be very

2160
01:43:26,439 --> 01:43:30,399
good in the month of December in both places right now. Yes,

2161
01:43:30,439 --> 01:43:33,520
there is gonna be some some people like I mean

2162
01:43:33,560 --> 01:43:35,600
Jerry Ausma's just because you mentioned him, he's like someone

2163
01:43:35,640 --> 01:43:37,640
who you know, I know what he said. He might

2164
01:43:37,640 --> 01:43:39,960
not go back there, but maybe maybe he gets pulled

2165
01:43:40,000 --> 01:43:41,640
back there. Yeah, right, and he's gonna be one of

2166
01:43:41,640 --> 01:43:43,399
those guys who's like probably in the middle. Like, there

2167
01:43:43,399 --> 01:43:45,319
are some of those guys that are like I could

2168
01:43:45,359 --> 01:43:47,119
go here because I can obviously play big, or I

2169
01:43:47,119 --> 01:43:49,359
can go here and I can you know, play maybe

2170
01:43:49,359 --> 01:43:52,279
with some weaker competition, bigger fields and whatever, get my

2171
01:43:52,920 --> 01:43:54,640
you know, my bang for the buck that way. So

2172
01:43:55,079 --> 01:43:56,720
I think it's going to be interesting turn the thirty

2173
01:43:56,720 --> 01:44:00,800
fourth place, by the way, in the WPT World Championship,

2174
01:44:01,000 --> 01:44:05,680
my first ever PGT cash. You have two, No, I

2175
01:44:05,720 --> 01:44:06,159
do have two.

2176
01:44:06,239 --> 01:44:08,000
Speaker 2: No I should I should be in the PGT Hall

2177
01:44:08,039 --> 01:44:13,960
of Fame. Not yet. So yeah, So I just I

2178
01:44:14,000 --> 01:44:15,439
think it's interesting that.

2179
01:44:16,880 --> 01:44:20,159
Speaker 1: We've heard a lot from w SP and we haven't

2180
01:44:20,159 --> 01:44:24,239
heard much from WPT, And I mean that's probably orchestrated

2181
01:44:24,279 --> 01:44:26,600
in that WPT is probably waiting see what they announced,

2182
01:44:26,600 --> 01:44:28,920
see what they come with, blah blah blah, and then

2183
01:44:28,920 --> 01:44:31,039
we're going to announce our stuff. There might also be

2184
01:44:31,079 --> 01:44:33,560
some stuff that you mentioned where like they need to

2185
01:44:33,600 --> 01:44:36,800
see how the sweepstakes landscape shakes out a little bit

2186
01:44:36,800 --> 01:44:41,159
more right, and then they're gonna figure things out. But

2187
01:44:41,159 --> 01:44:42,640
but yeah, I would think if you're going to do

2188
01:44:42,640 --> 01:44:44,800
any sort of big guarantee, you you have to just

2189
01:44:44,840 --> 01:44:47,560
be you have to be qualifying people.

2190
01:44:47,560 --> 01:44:51,000
Speaker 2: It has to be out there. So you know, I'm

2191
01:44:51,000 --> 01:44:52,000
not gonna go to the Hamas.

2192
01:44:52,039 --> 01:44:54,640
Speaker 1: I'm in Vegas is my backyard, so I'm going to

2193
01:44:54,680 --> 01:44:57,680
be at the win, right, So I hope they bring

2194
01:44:57,720 --> 01:44:59,880
a lot, you know, I'm very much looking forward to it.

2195
01:45:00,199 --> 01:45:02,079
I haven't think you could do something like and I've

2196
01:45:02,119 --> 01:45:04,319
said this before and I've worked with the WPT and

2197
01:45:04,359 --> 01:45:05,640
the kind of looked at me like I was crazy

2198
01:45:05,640 --> 01:45:07,039
when I was in the office and I brought this

2199
01:45:07,159 --> 01:45:09,880
idea up. But what if you did the first ever

2200
01:45:11,359 --> 01:45:17,960
WPT Main Tour PLO title thirty three hundred or like

2201
01:45:18,039 --> 01:45:22,279
a five K buy in in make it big. I

2202
01:45:22,279 --> 01:45:25,560
think you go like thirty five to five K, and

2203
01:45:25,600 --> 01:45:27,840
I think you put like a five million guarantee on it,

2204
01:45:28,159 --> 01:45:31,039
and that's your freaking shiny object. I would say that,

2205
01:45:31,119 --> 01:45:34,399
like for the WPT World Championship, you should basically have

2206
01:45:34,560 --> 01:45:43,159
like four major titles. I think that they considered the Prime,

2207
01:45:43,680 --> 01:45:46,479
the WPT Prime as a major in their mind. Okay,

2208
01:45:46,520 --> 01:45:48,760
so I think that's one of the four, the WPT

2209
01:45:48,880 --> 01:45:52,439
Prime Championship. Okay, you obviously have the WPT World Championship.

2210
01:45:53,000 --> 01:45:55,720
I think you add this a PLO championship, first ever

2211
01:45:55,760 --> 01:45:59,680
one banging guarantee, let's go. I think you could also

2212
01:45:59,720 --> 01:46:02,079
do like just like a like another like like a

2213
01:46:02,119 --> 01:46:05,079
thirty five hundred five million guarantee or something similar to

2214
01:46:05,119 --> 01:46:07,000
remember when Seminole did they had like they had in

2215
01:46:07,039 --> 01:46:09,640
the same series, the WPT. They had the Ryan Reese

2216
01:46:09,680 --> 01:46:11,520
I think won the ten k. Yeah, that's right, they

2217
01:46:11,520 --> 01:46:13,319
had like the thirty three, and then they had the

2218
01:46:13,359 --> 01:46:16,000
ten k and they were both main tour titles.

2219
01:46:16,279 --> 01:46:18,159
Speaker 2: Like why couldn't you do that? Yeah, you could do that.

2220
01:46:18,079 --> 01:46:21,359
Speaker 1: You know, so you could have the the eleven hundred

2221
01:46:21,359 --> 01:46:23,600
dollars prime, you could have a thirty three hundred dollar

2222
01:46:23,640 --> 01:46:26,680
PLO championship first ever, and then you can have a

2223
01:46:26,680 --> 01:46:30,479
thirty three hundred dollars WPT Main Tour Championship like both

2224
01:46:30,479 --> 01:46:33,039
of those thirty three hundred five million dollar guarantee, I mean,

2225
01:46:33,039 --> 01:46:34,760
go nuts, and then you have the ten.

2226
01:46:34,720 --> 01:46:37,159
Speaker 2: K as the kapper. Yeah, I'm in.

2227
01:46:37,600 --> 01:46:41,119
Speaker 1: I'm in solve your problem. Where do I send the invoice?

2228
01:46:42,239 --> 01:46:43,760
What Savage's email.

2229
01:46:44,119 --> 01:46:47,920
Speaker 2: Savage Parker gilt com. Probably, I mean that that's probably

2230
01:46:47,920 --> 01:46:52,880
probably is a good guess or poker TDA or Savage

2231
01:46:52,920 --> 01:46:55,359
at TDA dot com was only on whatever, who cares.

2232
01:46:56,319 --> 01:46:58,560
Speaker 1: We'll just we'll just send him our invoice. But I

2233
01:46:58,600 --> 01:47:00,640
think that that would be legit. Know, I think that.

2234
01:47:02,239 --> 01:47:05,600
I think that PLO is here. It deserves a freaking

2235
01:47:05,760 --> 01:47:09,600
WPT Main Tour title. Let's go if you want to

2236
01:47:09,600 --> 01:47:13,159
go buck wild, you just had the WPT Prime PLO

2237
01:47:13,319 --> 01:47:14,279
Championship as well.

2238
01:47:14,359 --> 01:47:16,000
Speaker 2: That that would make sick.

2239
01:47:17,279 --> 01:47:20,119
Speaker 1: Actually yeah, but why can't they have one of each both?

2240
01:47:20,479 --> 01:47:22,079
That's what I mean. Then you get a five like

2241
01:47:22,800 --> 01:47:28,119
five like headlining trophy events like those are your five? Yeah,

2242
01:47:28,720 --> 01:47:31,800
Like that's it, the best five. That's the win, the

2243
01:47:31,840 --> 01:47:33,840
win at the win for the w PT. How the

2244
01:47:33,840 --> 01:47:35,920
win wins, that's how the win wins. Well, the win

2245
01:47:36,039 --> 01:47:38,000
is winning. I don't think the win is losing. Okay,

2246
01:47:39,159 --> 01:47:41,359
So yeah, all right, cool, that's I think that's all

2247
01:47:41,399 --> 01:47:43,760
we got. We went for almost two hours. Holy hell,

2248
01:47:43,920 --> 01:47:45,199
Rich Ryan's gonna kill us.

2249
01:47:45,760 --> 01:47:47,560
Speaker 2: Get ready for my big drive to go win some

2250
01:47:47,880 --> 01:47:50,920
football trophies. Football. Good.

2251
01:47:50,920 --> 01:47:52,479
Speaker 1: Look, I saw you want a piece of wood. That

2252
01:47:52,560 --> 01:47:52,840
was great.

2253
01:47:52,880 --> 01:47:56,000
Speaker 2: That's actually pretty cool, Chevy. It looked like a piece

2254
01:47:56,039 --> 01:47:59,439
of wood. It's stumptown throw down in paul and in

2255
01:47:59,479 --> 01:48:01,880
the forest, Like I thought it was a cool trophy.

2256
01:48:02,319 --> 01:48:04,760
All right, whatever, I'll take any trophy it is. I

2257
01:48:04,800 --> 01:48:06,119
wasn't you know. He's the funny thing that like, are

2258
01:48:06,119 --> 01:48:08,399
you going to enter this contest? It was the longest

2259
01:48:08,479 --> 01:48:10,760
kid contest. My team was like, you need to enter

2260
01:48:10,760 --> 01:48:14,119
your win. I'm not entering unless it's a trophy. And

2261
01:48:14,159 --> 01:48:15,640
then they showed me the trophy and I was like,

2262
01:48:16,000 --> 01:48:17,880
I'm in and I what did I do with my wedding?

2263
01:48:18,159 --> 01:48:24,720
It's on my finger, it's on it on the ground's respectful.

2264
01:48:25,359 --> 01:48:27,800
Speaker 1: All right, we're gonna get out of here for Tim Duckworth.

2265
01:48:27,840 --> 01:48:29,640
My name is Donny Peters and we'll talk to you

2266
01:48:29,640 --> 01:48:30,199
guys next time.

2267
01:48:30,399 --> 01:48:47,479
Speaker 2: So yeah,