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Speaker 1: This is pet Life Radio. Let's talk pets, and.

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Speaker 2: We are here live. Let's get set up. I want

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to make sure you can all wake up this morning.

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So that's the very very right. Yet I didn't realize

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how bright did for it was. I said, Holy cow,

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I glow in the dark. It's crazy. Anyway, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome,

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here live with doctor Jeff. Here of the next thirty

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minutes from Pet Life Radios. Ask the best with doctor

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Jeff before anyone starts asking and wondering, what is going

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on with my hand? So I basically I don't want

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to believe my age. Actually, so what I do is

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I still do things that most people my age wouldn't do,

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like run a basketball game every Tuesday with kids in

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their thirties and forties basically younger than my kids, which

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is insane. Anyway, I took a crazy fall. My legs

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got tangled with one of the other guys, and I

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went flying landed in some way. I don't know exactly

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what happened because my hand got so swollen I couldn't

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even see my knuckles for like two weeks. But turns

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out that Hey, dav are you doing phil time? How

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are you Hello? Cloud chaser. So anyway, I must have

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pulled my thumb way back and tore these tendons. It's

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called the volar plate. So Friday, two days ago, I

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had surgery on my volar plate to repair. I didn't

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even know exactly what he did. I don't know if

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he had to put pins in. I know I'm going

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to see him probably tomorrow, just to talk to him.

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He's a friend of mine. So he's a hand surgeon.

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And it was funny because when I happened, I showed

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him a finger and he looked at it. He says,

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it's star flyer. I said, you know, Robbie, this is

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not arthritis. Look at this hand. I mean I showed

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him the difference. He goes, oh, so he started messing

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with my family. He goes, oh, it looks like you

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tore to your volar plate. Whatever it is. Anyway, he says,

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but I'm booked out till the end of the year

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and I'm retiring December thirty. First, he's a couple years

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old than I am. I said, rob you can't retire.

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I said, who else can? I trust? I don't know

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anybody else anyway. Ps He calls me a week later,

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had a cancelation, and I had it done on Friday,

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So I'm in this thing for ten days. It's a

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soft gap, but there's a metal plate in here to

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keep my thumb from moving, which I can't obviously move.

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And then I go back for the stitches out in

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ten days, and then he's gonna put a hard cast

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on for another two or three weeks. So ask me

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how happy I am. I'm not that happy. You don't

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realize how important the thumb is until you don't have

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one to use. It is insane. I'm trying to revenate

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with these two fingers. I'm sure he's to be so

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mad at me for even doing what I'm doing. But anyway, yes,

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now I can still work. I'm not supposed toucer. I

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told him do it. So at least if I could

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touch my index finger to my thumb and then I

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can still hold the thumb for steps, then I can

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actually do some work. But anyway, duh, Yes, somes matter,

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but it's crazy, so I'll be a little slower doing things.

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But it's God, it's just so frustrating. I mean, I'm

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telling you, every time I try to do something, I

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go wall. I can't do it right. But I was

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able to. I was able to blow chauffeur. That's right.

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Let's see, So any questions, you must have some questions.

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I don't know if you've seeing my I've been seeing

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some of the cutest animals, and I say, I saw

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a couple of breeder animals. And again I'm not against breeders,

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but understand what I'm against are things that are if

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it's a backyard breeder. If you're going to be a breeder,

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you got to do it right. You have to know

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you know what. And just so you know, I always

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tell people this and maybe we've talked about it before,

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but if you are getting a dog and you're not,

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you know, you see these ads online that the breeders

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and the best puppies in the world, et cetera. You

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need don't just jump out and you need to talk

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to the breeder. First thing on the question ask is

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is first of all, you want to relist the people

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that have already purchased puppies. And most importantly, who's your veterinarian.

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Just like if I asked any mom out there, who's

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your peace atrition boom, They're gonna know it immediately. They

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have to think about it. They know exactly who they

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go to for my clients. And this is a very

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unfortunate veterinarian world because it's not that way anymore. But

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if people ask my clients, who's your vet, oh, doctor Teff,

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I mean they know right away. Now, these corporate practices

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are almost they don't want people to bond to a veterinarian.

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seeing a different vet all the time. I can't believe

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that when people say, oh god, my pets are like

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my kids. If you don't have a relationship with a veterinarian,

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then they're not like your kids. Don't kid yourself, pardon

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the pun. So anyway, make sure that if they can't

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tell you who their vet was and so you can

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call the veterinarian, how is this person as a breeder,

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then it's a bad choice. And I'm telling you now,

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if I had to pick one breed that I'm seeing

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such terrible dogs, and it's a breed that is near

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to my heart, French bulldogs. I am seeing some of

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the worst French. He's coming out with so many problems

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because they don't know exactly what they're doing. They're not

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breeding cautiously. They're not finding out which parent might have

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a problem if they don't want to pass on. I mean, God,

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ask any breeder, would you breed a dog if it's

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a mon orc it only one testicles descended into the

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scrow to them. The answer is any legitimate breeder would say, oh,

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no way. But a lot of these places are doing

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stuff like that. They're breeding poor quality dogs, and that's

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what gets me. So I've seen if you do your

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homework and it's a legitimate breeder and they have great dogs,

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and you can talk to them and double check and

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check them out, then I'm okay with it. But having

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said that, working with a number of rescues that I

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work with, I have to tell you that I am

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seeing some of the most amazing dogs. I joke that

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if my bed was any bigger, I would take some

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of these dogs. I mean, I already have five, so Ila,

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be really careful our house. I'm sleeping in the doghouse.

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But anyway, please, please please, If you are ready for

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a pet, then I think look at some of these rescues.

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are taking care of them. There are so many fantastic

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dogs out there, and looks don't mean everything. So it said, yeah,

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if you want that. I mean, I've been a Labrador

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guy forever. It is my next dog. And the only

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reason I have a pure bread Labrador now after Grover,

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my dog that went sixteen and a half years, is

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because it was a rehome. He was a purebread dog,

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well bred. He's now fourteen and he's doing great and

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he's beautiful. So yes, you can. I was lucky my Frenchie.

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My Frenchie is a rehome. So my only two of

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my five dogs that are purebread were both rehomes. Would

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I get a dog now? I look, I love Labradors.

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I've had them for over fifty years. I've had Labradors

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my favorite dog ever. But would I get another pure breed?

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Probably not? Because I work with I see how many animals.

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The crime of these animals being put to sleep not

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because they're a bad dogs. It's just because they're no

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homes for them, and that to me just gets me

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so anyway, and then the lapeck, that's right, Well, let's

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talk about Mokie and Freddie. I should say Mookie is

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the one that stayed so Freddie LA PetCare. So Lauren

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has actually adopted one of my patients. There were two

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dogs if you know anything about baseball, Mookie and Freddie.

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Yes they are major LA Dodgers fans and Freddie. They

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have to give Freddy up and guess who took him

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LA PetCare And he is the greatest dog yet. So

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that's okay when you see dogs like that and you

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know them and they're well cared for, and that's support

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right now, Suzanne, why arm Rapp you missed it. I

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had a basketball injury. Don't tell me and give me

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hell for playing basketball at seventy, but I'm gonna do

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it anyway. But I fell in a weird way that

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hyper extended my thumb and there's a bunch tendons and

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ligaments here that tour and I had to have them fixed, reattached,

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and I'm in this thing for got four weeks. Ask

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me how happy I am? So anyway, Yes, so there

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are some really really good And by the way, if

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you run a particular breed, there are many of the

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more popular breeds like Retrievers, Golden Retrievers, Labrador Retrievers. There

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are breed specific rescues so you can get probably a

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pure breed or close to it, and still get the

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dog of your choice. So there's no excuse not to

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so let me. There was a question here about congestive

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Even I come and say, oh, so that's okay. Here's

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one from Sharon. It's because you talk about this, can

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it's not just the affordability, because even though like Nationwide

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double their premium, it's insane. It's the philosophy, but bothers me.

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The philosophy is that you have a problem that was

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a minor problem of no consequence as a young dog,

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and they're going to now basically not allow anything related

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to this skin. For example, it was a papaloma, as

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the example I gave before it a little puppy papoloma

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oral papaloma, very common in puppies. And then six years

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later the dog gets a growth on the skin that

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looks like it might be a cancer. Oh no, we

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don't cover that because there was a skin problem when

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he was a puppy. But what do you create? Nothing

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new with each other. They're always looking for excuse is

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not to pay they're looking for pre existing Ah, God,

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that's pre existing so or that's congenital. Everything going to

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go back to something if you're really looking for a

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way not to pay out. So that's my issue, and

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it's just gotten besides the fact that premium has got

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out of hand. Pause, it's is this environmental of food allergies? Again?

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easy answer. There is no easy answer. One of the

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things I will tell you this, if the problem appears

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to be seasonal, it's probably not food unless you change

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through each every season, which is unlikely. So then you're

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looking at contact, meaning grasses, things that are put on

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the grass is allergy or atopy atopic, which is the

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inhaling of the pollens. So if it's seasonal, then the

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better chance it is going to be a non food

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related it's going to be environmental. Now here's another thing

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you can do again, before you start spending a lot

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of money on the allergy testing, which is expensive, you

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have to ask yourself, are you willing to start medicating

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either sublingually under the tongue daily for the rest of

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the petch life or giving injections, almost like a diabetic

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has to get insulin shots. If you're not willing to

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do that, then treat symptomatically now through food elimination diet.

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That's what I always want I say. But if you

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treat the allergy as you would an inhaled allergy like

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sided point or steroid or cyclosporin, any of the old

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fashioned like the two preds and cyclosporin, even though suppression,

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that's suppress the immune system so it doesn't react. Or

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side a point which blocks the anagin. It is the

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cellular mediator of the inflammatory response called interluken thirty one.

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Side of point blocks into luken thirty one. If that works,

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then you know it's probably a seasonal, environmental kind of allergy.

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be food. It's a different pathway. So anyway, that's keep

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that in mind. Ah, here we go. Because its congestive, heartful.

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beat to murmur AG thirteen and coughing. It's on people.

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Bendim chextually didn't show much besides court. Okay, now your

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very last sentence was the key right there. Okay, and

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I'll read it in case those of you aren't seeing this.

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The congestive heart failure always show up on a chest

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X ray. A Chuao with grade B two murmur H

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thirteen recently began coughing is on pema bending. Chest x

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rays don't show much besides, of course, some heart enlargement.

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to the heart working harder to basically pump more blood

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congestive heart disease. Congestive heart fail usually gonna see lung

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of thickness. You'll see more definitely within the test exers.

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really hard to tell. So the congestive heart disease that

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then you might be able to make a diagnosis, or

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at least a partial diagnosis. It's going to be on

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your list of differentials from congestive heart failure. But as

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far as the heart disease itself and whether it's functioning properly,

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you got to go echo cardiography. Okay, you have to

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have an echocardiagram. It's basically an ultrasound of the heart,

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which can measure first of all, follow the blood flow

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measure the pressures measure the amount of blood flowing through

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going backwards. And when you have left sided heart failure,

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where's the blood coming from into the left heart? From

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after the blood is oxygenated, it goes into the left

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side of the heart and then it gets pumped out

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of the order to go through the whole body. So

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if there is a problem with the heart valves and

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the right heart into the lungs, then who's gonna feel

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it the lungs, you're gonna feel it, and then you're

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gonna get congestive heartful. That's exactly what it means. It's

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usually a sign of left sided failure. The question is

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how bad is it? And then if you have true

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congestive heart disease, people abandon's good one hundred percent for

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the heart, but you need to also treat the pulmonary

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congestion and that's going you need to talk to your veterinarian.

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It's gonna be spernlactone, it's gonna be lasix, something that

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is going to help remove some of the fluid out

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of the heart, avoiding salt and the diet. There are

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a lot of things that need to be done, but

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the most important thing is to do what you can

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to increase the efficiency of the heart and the heart

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pumping despite the bad valves. So echo cardiography is going

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to be your answer to go along with it. Of course,

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all right, let's see. Ah, So my daughter in law's mom, Frenchie,

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won Westminster Best to Breed this year. She likes no

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so I ah, if you have Sharon, if you have

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a dog like that that you know obviously to win

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Westminster which, by the way, that's fantastic. Then you know

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you have a legitimate breader. So whoever's breeding the dog,

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and if someone said, you know what, I want to

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get a frenchie, that's who I would one hundred percent recommend.

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Someone who has legitimate reading practices, who's experienced, who knows

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what to look for in the mom and dad before

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they breathe them, and they want to pass those good

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trades on, then that's okay. But backyard breeders, they don't

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do it. They don't know what to do. Let alone

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do it. They have a French see of another French sie,

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they put them together. Now that's not good enough. Open

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a seater, yeah, that's my ranswer. Open up a seed

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in your or investment in your dog's names. You put

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the money. We talk about this every month automatically and

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just let it, let it ride. I elevated liver enzymes.

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Seven year old pig was put on daily medication for

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a month, but the enzymes stayed the same. Next step ultrasound. Okay,

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so also great question. So elevated lib enzymes. First of all,

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there are a number of enzymes. They're big four. There's

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ast not that important. Alt the most important. Okay, alk

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foss very important in GGT. Now, the one that we

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look at the most for true liver function is the

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alt alkfoss tells us a lot. However, if you have

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dogs with vacuolar hepatopathy, high ALTFAUSS, dogs with Cushing disease,

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high alcfass, dogs that are on steroids or phoenobarbital, high alcvas.

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So you need to get a good history first of

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all to know where's this coming from. Now, ultrasound very important.

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So if we have a dog with high liver enzymes,

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then also have to ask up how are they behaving.

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I've had dogs with alkin phosphatastes high normal is like

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one hundred some test one hundred and thirty one. I've

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seen it two thousand and the dogs are acting totally fine.

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So we do it ultrasound and the liver looks pretty good.

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Even sometimes you would do a bleeding panel and you

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take little needle aspirts of the liver. Got to be

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very careful, you know what you're doing. And but sometimes

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you'll see is on the liver that indicate vacuolar epitopathy.

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Dogs that are on steroids or preen of barbitol and

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they're acty totally fine. So the one where you see

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a sick dog and high liverenzame is going to be

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alt alanine transphrase. So when that is elevated, now we

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have a potential problem. We need to find out what

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the answer is. So sometimes we just modify diet. We

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can put them on a denim eron, which is a supplement,

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a dnosil, and see if that helps the liver. If

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it does, that's great, and it may not, so we

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got to be you know, understand ultimately to really make

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a diagnose, an accurate diagnosis. When it comes to liver

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enzymes and the dog is actually not eating, losing weight,

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showing evidence of being a sick dog, the answer is

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going to come from a biopsy and that again done

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very carefully. We do them. There's a device called the

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true cut biopsy punch. Of course, you need to check

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for bleeding first, make sure the dog has a good

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normal bleeding panel. Secondly, you have to under ultrasound guiding

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trying to if you see an abnormality. You want to

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be really careful. But there are hazards and that is

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you might hit something, You might hit a vessel, you're

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doing this blindly. So the new updated treatment or diagnostic

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aid of choice is laparoscopy. Doing the same thing with

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a laparoscope has to be done by a board certified

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interness unless you your general practitioner is really good at laproscopy.

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So you can see exactly where you're gonna stick that

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biopsy punch, you're gonna take a sample, you can continue

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to watch to make sure it doesn't bleed like crazy,

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and you're gonna get your answer. Nowadays, with that available

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to me, even though I personally don't do it, I

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would prefer that out because there's no sense from a

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legal aspect forget to strict the dog from legally if

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you do something to cut the old fashioned way and

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knock on whatever. I've never ever and all the true

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cuts I've done ever had a problem. So am I confident.

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I'm still confident, but knowing that you never know when

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that first probably you may encounter that first problem, and

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then then you're screwed. So and then when someone hears,

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if a lawyer hears that what you did out on

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your own blindly and you had a board certific interness,

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especially in West LA you know, not even a mile

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away and you didn't refer it, then I'm in the hazeat.

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So that's what I'd recommend. A liver biopsy and then

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go on. So it's ultrasound look at the liver. You

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can do a needle asp but those are pretty safe

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again under an ultrasound guide. But if you're gonna do

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a biopsy to get your ultimate answer, you should do

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a laparoscopy with a board service specialist. All right, we're

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gonna break right now. I'm gonna look at some more

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Speaker 2: Back here. We just got a good question about pamlikopenia,

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which is feline carbovirus. If a group of cats and

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a rescue situation dies of kindoikopenia, does that mean all

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the other cats have it? And the answer is no,

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if they're all acting fine. First of all, it's a virus,

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so there's no test for it anyway. You can just

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treat them, monitor them one thing that's going to ravage

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through the entire household, but of course keep an eye

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on some of the other kids whollow it. Probably there

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was something going on from the immune system, some immuno

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compromisation in that particular cat. Okay, even the same litter,

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So keep an eye on that it was congestive heart

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failure right, So again then if it was congestive heart failure,

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my hunch is that there was something in the lungs

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that you can see. And because when they're coughing, then

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usually going to see something in the lums when any

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coughing animal, I always take Chesteck trayce and you can

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learn a lot from a chest deck rays and then yes,

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if there's there's certain things you're looking for within the

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lung tissue itself and the bronchials and the main bronchi

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and the alveli, then you'll usually with congestive part for

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you have alveoler disease, then yes, you can make that

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diagnosis based on X rays. All right, REGENTSA, I am

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still trying to get information from my friends the interness.

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I don't like going to these companies that make it

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because look at Librella Librella. I've spoken at length to

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Zoetis and they are confident that these issues are not

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abnormal reactions to any drug. It's like when you go

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when your heroos commerce's on TV the very end of

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the commercial. First of all, the scenes are beautiful, and

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these people and then smiling all of a sudden at

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the very end, man can do this and this and

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this and this and even death. So does that mean

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are people not going to use it? Obviously someone's using

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it and or I heard one what on the radio here?

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I forget what the disease is one of the gas

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to intestinal colitis or inflammatory ballel and they're both bosting.

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And three out of ten even showed, you know, remission

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for a year thirty percent in you're at that's not

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too good if it was seventy eighty percent. Now we're

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talking so thirty percent, Really, are you going to risk

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getting improvement? We're seventy percent time that didn't work or

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it only works short term, and who knows how a

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percent of people actually got really sick because of it,

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So you know they're still standing by librella. Again, personally,

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I think I've had one model reaction. The dog wasn't

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feeling well after the shot, and this was out their

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fourth or fifth one, so you know that it was working.

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If it wasn't working really well, why would they have

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come in for the next one, of the next one,

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of the next one. So and then I'm not even

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sure that their older dogs was that the fifth one

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or fourth one actually made them sick. I don't know.

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There's no way to tell, but we are we're holding

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back for now. And then another one is convinced that

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it was a Librella shot that really I don't know

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if the dog passed away, but it was really bad. Again,

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it is so hard to tell when you have these

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condition is that you're using the drug because of old

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dogs and I'm not sure anyway for ecoss lives matter

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on that great pyne. Can you please send me pictures,

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get an up close picture, and I'll be happy to

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follow up with you. But it may be something and

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maybe even something on the third eyelid, but it's not

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quote unquote cherry I because that gland only is on

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the inside. I've never seen a prolapsed gland of the

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third eyelid anywhere but the medial cantas. So now my

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problem is much of my work, as you know, is surgery,

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and I'm thinking I had to get this done because

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the longer I wait, sooner I would probably end up

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developing arthritis in that joint because at the time, without

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those tendons and ligaments keeping that thumb in place. Then

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I would end up getting arthritis in that joint. Then

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I'm really screwed. That becomes a lifelong problem. And for

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someone who does a lot of surgery like I do,

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I didn't want to run that risk of having, you know,

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really really better arthritis. Okay, Kavi' not able to doing good.

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I just didn't want to ignore you, all right, I

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think I hope I got to all thank you, Susan.

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Could I still work? Yes, I'm doing I can do

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certainly minor things, so that's good. So if there any

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last questions, now is the time I'm trying to waive

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to everybody. Now's the time to ask them, because we

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had a good group today. Have I worked on primates

469
00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:24,440
dealing with an anxiety issue in a lemur? I have

470
00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:28,640
not interested. At UC Davis they have the primate Center,

471
00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:32,240
which is very popular, so I personally have not worked.

472
00:24:32,279 --> 00:24:35,400
It wasn't really part of our normal training unless you

473
00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:38,640
were going to the exotic animal or zoo animal tract.

474
00:24:38,799 --> 00:24:42,200
And I went small animal knowing that. Yeah, so blocked

475
00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:45,160
tear duct of a cat. So now the great questions

476
00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:48,400
coming Roland hold on zero is Peter recovery? What are

477
00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:51,680
the thoughts on CBD oil or treats to commodore absolutely

478
00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:55,680
worth trying. I like CBD. I also have my own product,

479
00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:57,880
as you know, called chill, which is you know, all

480
00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:01,599
the natural remedies that are that are advertise el trip

481
00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:06,240
to fan, melatonin, valerian rud, passionate flower, cama meal. So again,

482
00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:09,880
some dogs do well and some don't. What I promise

483
00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:13,119
guarantee that CBS gonna work, Absolutely not. But I will

484
00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:15,720
tell you that if you want to avoid the drugs

485
00:25:15,799 --> 00:25:17,960
to start, I would certainly put that on my list

486
00:25:18,039 --> 00:25:20,799
of things to try before going to the heavy duty stuff.

487
00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:24,279
And so try it, you'll be amazed. I'm looking for Rolands.

488
00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:26,480
I pup pooped all over the car and that night

489
00:25:26,519 --> 00:25:28,079
even had the little blood in his tool. But now

490
00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:29,799
seems fine. This stool is fine, and energy is fine.

491
00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:33,039
You're causing it no cause concern. So first of all,

492
00:25:33,319 --> 00:25:37,319
when we see soft stool anywhere from mushy cowpatty like

493
00:25:37,599 --> 00:25:41,079
to flat out diarrhea, especially with nucus and blood and

494
00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:44,880
the dog otherwise acting normally, still eating, et cetera, it

495
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:47,839
is colitis. I wouldn't say one hundred percent. I'm never

496
00:25:47,839 --> 00:25:51,599
supposed to all, say ninety nine percent colitis. Now, why

497
00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:54,359
does dogs sat colitis? Well, let's put the list. It's

498
00:25:54,359 --> 00:26:01,039
a pretty long list. Nerves, stress, anxiety, excitement, diet, diet change,

499
00:26:01,319 --> 00:26:03,680
eating something here she shouldn't have. Then, of course, in

500
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:06,839
a puppy parasites. Now you have a pup going into

501
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:08,640
a car. I don't know how many times you take

502
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:11,839
them in the car. But now let's talk about nerve, stressed, anxiety, excitement,

503
00:26:12,319 --> 00:26:16,160
and they're gonna let loose and have this irritated bowel.

504
00:26:16,319 --> 00:26:19,640
It's gonna cause diarrhea, it's gonna have a little mucous

505
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:22,039
on it, They're gonna have maybe a little blood. It's

506
00:26:22,079 --> 00:26:25,519
a normal reaction. I would say it's normal, but it's

507
00:26:25,519 --> 00:26:28,839
a normal reaction. That's exactly what happens under those conditions.

508
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:33,680
So what I recommend simply is to start add a

509
00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:36,440
little fiber to the diet, maybe decrease the amount of

510
00:26:36,519 --> 00:26:38,759
food just a little. What kind of fiber, Well, the

511
00:26:39,279 --> 00:26:42,839
hot fiber now that's being recommended by the interness that

512
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:46,920
GI docs is sillium powder. It's pretty concentrated, a very

513
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:49,400
small amount. So if it's a pup, maybe an eighth

514
00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:51,240
of a tea spoon mixed in with the food, and

515
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:54,440
might tell people feed add fiber to the diet, brand

516
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:58,279
cooked oat meal, can pumpkin, sweet potato, cook sweet potato,

517
00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:01,599
cooked potato, or ccilium. All of a sudden, they tell

518
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:03,440
me that the dog still has diarrhea. Well, how much

519
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:05,839
to do you use? They go, I was feeding them pumpkin. Oh,

520
00:27:06,759 --> 00:27:10,039
you added this small amount to their regular diet. You dope.

521
00:27:10,079 --> 00:27:12,119
Give them a straight pumpkin out of the can. Of

522
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:15,200
course they're gonna have diarrhea. It's all about volume for

523
00:27:15,319 --> 00:27:18,680
most dogs, maybe half a teaspoon to a teaspoon. If

524
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:20,960
it's a huge dog, it might be a tablespoon, but

525
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:24,640
not plain mixed in with their regular food. With silium,

526
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:27,400
which more concentrated. You're going from a small amount an

527
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:29,599
eighth of a teaspoon to a quarter to maybe a

528
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:32,200
half a teaspoon, and a big dog. Again, you mix

529
00:27:32,279 --> 00:27:34,720
it in with the food, and if that doesn't work,

530
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:37,440
Plus it's a pup by now, I would imagine this

531
00:27:37,519 --> 00:27:40,799
puppy already had a fecal sample run if it was negative,

532
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:44,039
so you can eliminate that GRD or something. If it

533
00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:46,200
was positive. Obviously you need to treat the parasites. If

534
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:48,920
it wasn't done, then bring a stool sample to your

535
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:52,400
veterinarian and have them evaluate the stool to see if

536
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:56,039
there were any parasites or giardia. And then beyond that

537
00:27:56,400 --> 00:28:00,160
the next step. If the dietary modification and adding the

538
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:03,000
fibri alone doesn't work, then see your vet. I would

539
00:28:03,039 --> 00:28:06,519
start something called flagile and nectronitisol and it seems to

540
00:28:06,599 --> 00:28:10,880
be very very helpful in cases of colitis. All right,

541
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:14,359
what's the best tool to clip nails? The nail file

542
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:16,559
of the clippers? Well, I would say the best thing.

543
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:19,559
It depends on the animal. We use nail clippers and

544
00:28:19,599 --> 00:28:22,480
then we use the dremo to just round out the edges.

545
00:28:22,839 --> 00:28:24,960
There are dremos out there that are silent. You don't

546
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,720
hear it. The pet doesn't really feel it unless you

547
00:28:27,799 --> 00:28:29,960
get too much. You don't want it the quick. Now,

548
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:31,880
if you don't know what you're doing, or the nails

549
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:34,720
are black, you're better off taking a little less because

550
00:28:34,759 --> 00:28:36,759
if you take more and you hit that quick, and

551
00:28:36,799 --> 00:28:38,599
the first of all, what do you have that quick?

552
00:28:38,839 --> 00:28:40,759
You have the nerve and you have the blood supply.

553
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:43,200
If you want to develop a pet that is going

554
00:28:43,279 --> 00:28:45,160
to go nuts next time you approach them to clip

555
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:47,519
and nails. Clip their nails a little too short a

556
00:28:47,559 --> 00:28:50,720
few times or even once, and you've lost it. So

557
00:28:50,799 --> 00:28:53,319
you're better off. Less is more, don't do it if

558
00:28:53,319 --> 00:28:55,759
you're not sure. Now, clear nails ring and actually see

559
00:28:55,759 --> 00:28:57,960
what you're doing, then it's a little easy to avoid

560
00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:00,240
the quick because you can see the pink part through

561
00:29:00,359 --> 00:29:03,279
the sort of clear nail. Now, if you have dogs

562
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:06,519
and many and cats, some of are clear and some

563
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:09,720
of the nails are black pignited, then look how much

564
00:29:09,759 --> 00:29:11,960
you took away from the clear ones, and you could

565
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:14,240
do that same amount from the black ones and you

566
00:29:14,279 --> 00:29:17,200
should be okay. Now, if they're really not that long,

567
00:29:17,279 --> 00:29:19,880
you just want to take the sharpness away, use a dremal.

568
00:29:20,039 --> 00:29:22,839
The drummer is great. Filing with a nail file, you

569
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,759
could do it, but it's the back and forth too much.

570
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:28,480
I think the pets can object. But you did dremal

571
00:29:28,519 --> 00:29:30,440
where you can just keep in one spot and the

572
00:29:30,599 --> 00:29:33,119
dremo is doing the thing going around around is doing

573
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:35,880
the filing, then they do really well with that. So

574
00:29:36,279 --> 00:29:40,240
my recommendation. So where that's where it starts. Okay, primeate,

575
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:44,079
it's hard way Kippos, Steve, I wish you got all that. Oh,

576
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:46,640
and b to Kevin, what happened to my arm again?

577
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:50,799
I hyper extended, took a fall playing basketball with youngsters.

578
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:52,640
Had nothing to do with that. It was just two

579
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:54,559
of us running for the same ball. Our legs got

580
00:29:54,759 --> 00:29:57,640
entangled and I went flying. And the way I landed

581
00:29:57,839 --> 00:29:59,480
I don't know exactly. All I know my hand was

582
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:01,880
stuck un me, and which is a good thing. I

583
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:04,160
broke the fall because even with that, I still hit

584
00:30:04,279 --> 00:30:06,960
my chin on the hard work pretty hard. Fortunately, nothing

585
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,319
happened to that. I maybe rattle my brain a little bit.

586
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:11,519
Maybe that's why I sound the way I do. But whatever.

587
00:30:11,839 --> 00:30:13,759
So I had to surgery to reattach. It's called the

588
00:30:13,839 --> 00:30:16,920
volar plate. And now I'm stuck in this thing, well

589
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:19,200
this thing for ten days, stitches out after ten and

590
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,279
then he puts on a hard cast for another two

591
00:30:21,359 --> 00:30:25,079
or three weeks. So I'm not so when he's three

592
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:26,640
years old and in the car off and it probably

593
00:30:26,759 --> 00:30:28,839
ate something. Yeah, something could be that that is simple

594
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:33,160
and it just was coincidental, all right, Lauren Danielle, all right, good.

595
00:30:33,599 --> 00:30:36,759
I overstayed my welcome as is normally the case of course,

596
00:30:36,799 --> 00:30:39,160
I'm available anytime. For those of you who are going

597
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:42,799
to this Thursday, have an easy fast, and I will

598
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:45,880
be back next Sunday, same Bat time, same bat channel,

599
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,720
here on Instagram, live here on pet Life Radio, and

600
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:51,039
here on pet Life Radio. Fal questions during the week

601
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:55,240
email doctor Jeffdrjeff at Petlife Radio dot com and I

602
00:30:55,279 --> 00:30:58,599
will get those and for Instagram anyplace else where you

603
00:30:58,799 --> 00:31:03,160
just added on Instagram, or dr Jeff at DRGFF dot com,

604
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:05,880
Doctor jeffordet job doctor Jeff dot com. For those of

605
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:08,279
you using AIRBT, you can reach me at Jeff at

606
00:31:08,359 --> 00:31:11,160
air bet dot com. So anyway, let's put this way,

607
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:14,279
I'm hard not to get a hold of, and most

608
00:31:14,319 --> 00:31:17,240
of you probably have my cell phone number anyway, so

609
00:31:17,359 --> 00:31:19,400
if you if you have to call me, feel free

610
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:22,240
or send me a text. All right, anyway, have a

611
00:31:22,279 --> 00:31:25,799
wonderful week and we'll be here next week and again

612
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:29,200
Happy New Year to those who celebrate. And I said,

613
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:30,440
have an easy fast on Thursday.

614
00:31:30,799 --> 00:31:36,039
Speaker 4: By Let's talk pets every week on demand only on

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