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ag Debosa postgame commentary. He had himself a night. I

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asked the question of the day poll of the day

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earlier in the show Chot then at Crudal Benjamin on Twitter,

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what were you most impressed by in this game? From

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AJ was scoring, his efficiency, his endurance in cardio and effort.

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How about his playmaking and assists or his defense that

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What do you say? AJ Debat said me high little

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monumental win for the Cougars, and it gets him on

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the right track. AJ. Was there an emphasis on attacking

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the rim against Iowa State? If so, what was it

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playing off two feet?

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Speaker 3: It was kind of an emphasis going into the game

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just playing off two feet being strong. They don't foul

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a ton, So it's trying to be strong and pink

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean Luke, he for his s felt as

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he is. I've said this before, he really absorbs contact. Well,

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you don't justsarily expect that from a guy that's his

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lenky as him right, Like he doesn't he doesn't have

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a robust like frame and musculature, right. I mean he's tall,

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he's long, but it's he absorbs contact quite well. And uh,

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and he fought through that contact like he has most

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of the season. But I do feel like there's been

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two occasions in which I said to myself, like, dude,

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he is like violently getting to the rim. It was

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the Utah game in this Iowa State game. Am I

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wrong in that?

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Speaker 4: Like?

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Speaker 1: I do feel like there was a different pace in

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physicality that AJ was playing at in that forty burger

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that he dropped on us. And then that Iowa State game, Ronnie,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, no, one hundred percent. He definitely was way more

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physical and and Ben, I think that's what you have

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to take into account. Go look at his high school tape. Right,

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Look at AG's tape. Agent didn't have to fight through

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contact like that in high school. He would just gallop

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to the rim. Go, he's having to bulldog his way

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through euro step, put his shoulder down, pull up like

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these are all tough buckets. And they're sending two three

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guys off of Blitz's double teams from the weak side

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to the strong side, blitzing even more off the strong

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sideut of position. That's why Kevin Young said in the

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first segment in NBA you get torn apart for that,

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and he's making it happen. So, yeah, your your statement

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attack the basket and said, I will not be denied.

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Speaker 1: Aj dbatsa. How has the team rallied with Richie being

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Speaker 6: I mean, he's been in on the meetings.

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scheduled for this week. H so he's probably doing some

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prehab and you hope that there's not a ton of

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collateral damage and he can get back, uh and get

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on that Kyle Collinsworth ACL post op plan. If I'm Ritchie,

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as effectively, as stable as possible. Followed the KC. Remember

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record coming off an ACL tear. Shout out to Kyle Collinsworth. Now,

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let's talk with my hi Low. How did the coaches

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challenge her? How do they How did they challenge you

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in this new role with Richie being out, Milo, it was.

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playing defense and shooting up shots and you know kind

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Speaker 1: Indeed, indeed, indeed it did manifest. Now, how would you

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creat Mihilo's performance, Ronnie, I mean it was solid right.

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Speaker 5: Giving I'm giving him to be plus. I think people

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are gonna look at the two of eight and be

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too harsh with that. But uh, here's why we three

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turnovers though, Yeah, and I think that's and he had

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a tough assignment. He had Joshua Jefferson, right, that was

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his matchup, and let's be honest, he's getting cooked in

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the first half. He was he got a couple of

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quick fouls, can't reach in and Joshua Jefferson secondly to

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Speaker 6: So you gotta tip your hat the Iowa state.

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Speaker 1: That was a tough guard, right, josh could not buy

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Speaker 5: And then Mihilo because obviously you threw a dem at him.

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the coaches. Chris Burgess I think said something to Mahilo

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of don't foul. Just put your hand up heavily contestant,

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don't foul, because what did Booped come in to do?

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and then they made the adjustment, Okay, let's put Boop

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another wing guy, so they switched it up and it

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played well, and then you have to look at the

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other three shots that came into paint. Normally Mihilo is

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just pulling threes. He said, I'm even him. He said,

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I'm going to tack the basket. When was it easy? Donk,

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a three point shooter. He needs to get downhill as

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well well. When they you know, blitz you hard and

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close out. So I think Mahilo give him a B plus,

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Speaker 1: The Hilo. How important was it to get off to

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a strong start against Iowa State, Yeah, it was nice.

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Speaker 1: Look, look this this Uyu team was very good, much

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better in the first half. And uh, I think a

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lot of it stemmed from great defensive effort. And I

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think also getting to the rim right and and and

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getting to the free throw line and getting fouled and

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getting into a rhythm. Uh, they just weren't They weren't

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heavily reliant on just hitting three point shots. They did

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hit some, but they weren't heavily relyingt on it. And

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Aj DEBOTSA, what was the scouting report? Now, I'm gonna

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I'm gonna lean on you. I don't I do not

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know how to to pronounce this name yet, Ronnie uh

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So Milan Milan met me.

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Speaker 6: Milm Chilovich.

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Speaker 1: Milan Chilovich And how did you shut him down? We're

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gonna get that fired up for all you Cougar fans

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and Cougar country. A. J DEBOTSA discussing his scouting report

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on one of the best shooters in college basketball. We'll

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get to that here momentarily, but just pulling up the

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stat sheet here Melan was. He played twenty five minutes.

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He only had five points. He was one to five

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from the field, one for four from the three point line,

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three rebounds. Pretty quiet night, considering this man is scoring

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seventeen and a half points per game, three point two rebounds,

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one assays fifty two percent from the field this season.

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So pretty impressive work by AJ. Let's get back to it, AJ,

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your scattered report.

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Speaker 3: He knocked down on the iles watching this film. He

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was shooting one leg fades, quick trigger. He's about my height.

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You know what, Tims not just makes He knocked down

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Speaker 1: Knocking down Melan man, Aj is the blueprint going forward

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for you to play all forty minutes the rest of

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Speaker 6: That's coach Dott.

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Speaker 1: You know I was ready for I mean, obviously I'm

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in shape. I work out a lot.

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Speaker 3: I might try to stay in shape, but finding to

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Speaker 1: See that that's the comment that went viral. Everyone that's

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in this debate between Darren Peterson and AJ, the guy

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that could go first overall in next year's NBA draft.

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Everyone's debating and everyone's commenting on it. They see the

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load management side of DMP, they see him faking injuries.

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basketball performances of the season, and says, if I need

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to play forty minutes to win, I'm gonna play forty minutes.

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AJ first overall in this next year's NBA draft. I

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think everyone's on board now, Roddie, do you think they'll

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Speaker 5: Look, and I just want to say, I do think

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there's something going on with Darren. And Look, I just

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think if you are hurt, you're supposed to tell people

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publicly that you're hurting. He's not doing that, So I

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really question what's going on. But the point is he's no.

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this sort of the season. But then if he goes

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out and balls out and he's in a final four

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or Darren Peterson's in a national championship, this there's no

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disrespect to agent. I think right now as we spending

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point in time and being as Stephen A.

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Speaker 6: Smith says, the guy that AJ challenged, the list is fluid.

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The list is fluid.

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Speaker 5: It's fluid as of today, February twenty third, a Monday

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edition The Family Home Evenion.

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Speaker 6: AJ's the number one pick.

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Speaker 5: That could change Ben because if if d n P

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Speaker 6: Four, he is going to be the number one overall pick.

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Speaker 5: So this is still Look, this is gonna be a

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Speaker 6: Man than me for the next six weeks.

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Speaker 1: It's happening, guys. I'm sorry, No.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm surprised he even did that.

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Speaker 1: Well you gotta do that, Canard. He's like sixty six

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play it and they would move move, did not dunk

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like they actuated that Knar couldn't dunk. And Age has

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been a little fun with his teammates, right. He threw

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the Rob call for the lobb at Baylor. He didn't

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throw it down, but then the videos went viral of

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him wind Milling and Duncan and AJ Coults. Next time

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expect that. So there's some fun stuff with the teammates.

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Speaker 6: I like how they do this.

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Speaker 5: There's fun competitive nature amongst his team and you need that.

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Speaker 5: I think the best part about this video, Mihilo is

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chuckling during the whole time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Mahilo just giggling in the background a j How

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how is the team reinventing itself on the fly with

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Speaker 1: Get to that here in the second. But yeah, I

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do think are they reinventing themselves or they just finding

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you know, I just fill in the gaps. Does that

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make sense? Like they're feeling that their strength or their

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weaknesses are becoming their strengths. And does one personal remember

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That one personnel move combined with Yegor beginning to hit

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threes and get to the rim provided I think the

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boost to get to a sweet sixteen. That's my take

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on it. I think the one personnel move of getting

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minutes a game and becoming more proficient in scoring and

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even a better defender, is gonna boost BYU into the

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NCAA tournament. Conversation for at least a moderate to deep

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run in the NCAA tournament, AJ, how is this team

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reinventing itself on the fly with Richie out They.

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Speaker 3: We've been connect with top five teams. Obviously we're losing

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my single datas to Yukon, Arizona, Houston, all these top five,

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top ten teams, So we knew we were right there.

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It's a matter of time where we collectively brought it

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together and got it ub.

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Speaker 1: All it took was just a little bit of elbow grease,

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AJ and Mihailo, both of you. Was this win against

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Iowa State a statement win to move forward from.

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Speaker 4: Lloyd and Ryan?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean just being a top sixteen definitely a

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stamen win. Obviously one of the better teams in our league.

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I think this can be like the blueprint for us

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Speaker 1: Be the blueprint. Be the blueprint, AJ, How impactful were

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the contributions of Hadeem and Kaida this game.

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Speaker 4: On?

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Speaker 3: So he's very hard to score us in the paint. Obviously,

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there's been a lot of room protection, a lot of rebounding.

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he's locked in. I mean I tried to get him

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a couple of hours early. I did, and he just

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turned them to a different monsters. So I'm happy for him.

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Speaker 1: Be smode b smode AJ. What was the team's mentality

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with your backs again the wall keeper shorting.

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Speaker 3: Obviously, we're like I said, we were neck and neck

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we knew we were right there.

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Speaker 6: There's a matter of executing for forty minutes.

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Speaker 3: We were probably only execu for like thirty five of

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those forty minutes in that five minute stretch would just

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lead us to losses.

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Speaker 4: So we just wanted to execu for forty minutes.

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Speaker 1: Gotta finish, Ronald. Your final thoughts as we wrap up

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this segment.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think that was a powerful quote at the end. Ben,

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you know, I pig in the year.

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Speaker 5: I think they're right the five minutes would happen where

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the last minutes of the first half. We played the

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sound clip they go on a thirteen oh run in

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the first half.

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Speaker 6: That was huge.

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna be honest, Ben, if they don't do that,

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I don't know if they get that. Because it was

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back and forth. Ioway state kind of had a little gap.

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I think they were like on an eight to two

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run by themselves. It's not really a run, but they

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outscored them like eight to two in a stretch. And

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it was that thirteen oh run and causing Milan Montchilovich

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tould get his third foul that really set the callus,

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I thought. And Aj was phenomenal on that stretch. But Ben,

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I think we see the blueprint and Kevin Young used

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to do this. He said it, Uh, Canard Davis Junior

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needs the ball in his hand more, don't you know,

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pigeonhole anybody. Let everybody's roll, Seane. Let everybody do what

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they're good at. And that's what the team last year did.

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Everybody was great at that. If that means you have

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to move some things around and do some things, do it.

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I think Jackson Paine said at the Solar Battery Boop

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have him out there. I'd been to one of the

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lineups that I love to see, and I know Rob

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is gonna have to be out there. But when Rob

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was on the bench, how big they were. And we'll

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ask JT this in a little bit, but I just

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want to take it through your brand and you let

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me know. Keba you had Boop, you had Mihailo, you

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had Canar, and you had aj That's.

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Speaker 6: A big lineup.

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Speaker 5: That's a very big lineup, and it was tough for

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Iowa State defensively excuse me, offensively to get anything going.

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So I'm excited to see that lineup go later, especially

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when rob is getting rest, because then when you have

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at home tomorrow night. At nine o'clock sticking, with, the

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hardwood delating GiB led the cougars to an eighty six

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congratulate byu Men's Volleyball coach seawn olmsted on his two.

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now LET'S talk about byu as an institution And how

469
00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:44,240
The board of TRUSTEES felt about byu. As an institution not.

470
00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:50,039
Too long ago what year was It In which elder

471
00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:55,680
gilbert was called to be Head Over The? CHURCH educational

472
00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:59,000
system i. THINK it was i want to say it

473
00:22:59,039 --> 00:23:03,920
was LIKE, maybe Around covid if i'm not mistaken of

474
00:23:04,079 --> 00:23:06,640
the double. Check on that don't quote me on, it

475
00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:12,880
JUST yet but i believe it was around, That, that

476
00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:16,359
TIME okay because i think it maybe was THERE. JUST

477
00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:19,519
after covid i, WANT to say, i Got it ben.

478
00:23:19,559 --> 00:23:23,279
Speaker 5: He was called he served as a general Authority seventy

479
00:23:23,759 --> 00:23:26,319
since amber, twenty twenty one And as the Commissioner Of

480
00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:28,920
The Church education system august.

481
00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:30,039
Speaker 6: Of, that, Year yes.

482
00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:33,079
Speaker 1: Okay so just to give you guys a little bit

483
00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:35,759
of perspective when we get into this, quote this SoundBite

484
00:23:35,759 --> 00:23:41,400
because it's an interview performed recently and it Was On the.

485
00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:47,160
Deseret Voices podcast elder gilbert says some very powerful things

486
00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:52,599
about the institution that many. ALUM hold, deer i mean the.

487
00:23:52,839 --> 00:23:59,400
The alumni base we, see how, ferocious how fanatic how

488
00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:04,640
about how the fanaticism that that is that that they

489
00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:08,680
embody and that they that they showcase. To. The WORLD

490
00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:12,799
uh b yu, fans show, up show out the, alumni show,

491
00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:16,160
up show, out they support they lived. Where they stand

492
00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:18,400
This Is what elder gilbert had to SAY about b

493
00:24:18,599 --> 00:24:22,519
yu when he and this was before he took over

494
00:24:23,319 --> 00:24:26,039
h over the. Church educational system.

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Speaker 4: We HAD slipped b, yu had slipped and there were

496
00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:32,079
a lot of a lot of PRESSURES for b yu

497
00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:35,559
to be just. Like the, world people say why do

498
00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:38,160
we have? These religious standards why where do we do?

499
00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:41,000
All THESE things AND i remember i Was Talking to

500
00:24:41,039 --> 00:24:46,720
president holland and he was bemoaning that he could feel

501
00:24:46,799 --> 00:24:50,680
this drift happening, to the university, and he's like what

502
00:24:50,759 --> 00:24:53,079
have they done with our school that we? Love SO

503
00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:57,480
much and. I felt awkward i wasn't even, the COMMISSIONER

504
00:24:57,559 --> 00:25:00,119
yet and I felt like i needed. To DEFEND them, and,

505
00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:02,880
I Said, well president, holand you know We Have, the

506
00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:07,640
honor code, we have devotionals we, have religion classes We

507
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:11,480
Have The. Academic FREEDOM policy and i said they're, like

508
00:25:11,559 --> 00:25:16,279
bumper lanes protecting us from bowling. Into the gutter and

509
00:25:16,319 --> 00:25:19,119
he didn't even, let me finish, and he said that's

510
00:25:19,279 --> 00:25:23,519
very different than bowling. For a strike, and he said

511
00:25:23,599 --> 00:25:27,000
we need to bowl for A. Strike at byu and

512
00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:30,440
just a couple phenomenal things that have happened at that

513
00:25:30,599 --> 00:25:34,640
university in the. Last five years we started out five

514
00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:37,240
years ago with seventy five percent. Of ur students we

515
00:25:37,279 --> 00:25:40,279
do an exit survey when. The students leave one of

516
00:25:40,279 --> 00:25:43,960
the questions is did you Grow Closer did jesus christ

517
00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:46,839
in YOUR? Time, at byu well five years ago that

518
00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:51,000
was at, seventy five percent much lower than the rest. Of,

519
00:25:51,039 --> 00:25:54,680
our institutions well the next year it climbed to, seventy

520
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:58,000
seven percent than the year after that. To eighty three

521
00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:02,400
because last year it. Was eighty seven there's a. Real momentum, there,

522
00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:07,759
what's remarkable though. Is the faculty. They wanted this they

523
00:26:08,519 --> 00:26:12,279
live in the same pressures, that we feel and they

524
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:16,839
wanted to stand up and be. Distinct and different and

525
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:20,960
with all, of that change over ninety percent of our

526
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:26,480
faculty report high satisfaction and support as faculty, at that

527
00:26:26,559 --> 00:26:31,720
university higher than almost every. Other secular comparison so we've

528
00:26:31,759 --> 00:26:36,519
been able to, drive this change but because the faculty

529
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:38,759
for the most, part Wanted it and i'm sure there

530
00:26:38,759 --> 00:26:41,079
are a few WHO are like i wanted this to

531
00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:44,440
Be more Like university of Pennsylvania or cal berkeley or.

532
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:49,359
Some other school but the MAJORITY came to biu because

533
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:53,000
they loved its mission and they wanted. To be different

534
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:55,079
we had, SLIPPED.

535
00:26:56,200 --> 00:27:00,359
Speaker 1: Extremely, powerful I mean and i love The Fact that

536
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:03,519
elder gilbert was there, to you know try to, defend

537
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:06,480
you know the the institution and all the good. It

538
00:27:06,599 --> 00:27:14,759
Was Doing when elder holland was bemoaning the the the

539
00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:20,759
drift that, had maybe occurred the drifting away from maybe

540
00:27:20,799 --> 00:27:26,640
what he deemed as the the ARCHETYPE of what byu

541
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:31,400
is and what it. Should stand for and, so you

542
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:34,240
wonder like how much of that Conversation Led to elder

543
00:27:34,279 --> 00:27:37,720
gilbert getting called to so to oversee cees because he

544
00:27:37,759 --> 00:27:41,799
wasn't the the commissioner. At the time but he really made.

545
00:27:41,799 --> 00:27:43,759
Good points, though, he's like way we got, the honor code,

546
00:27:43,759 --> 00:27:46,799
we got devotionals, we have uh we still, have to,

547
00:27:46,839 --> 00:27:50,720
have you know these these academic standards to, where it's,

548
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:54,680
open open. Thought open, minded you know you you want

549
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:58,720
to have, diversity of thought, diversity of culture diversity even of. Of,

550
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:02,759
of faith uh even within these academic institutions. Of higher

551
00:28:02,839 --> 00:28:08,000
learning but it needed, to come back and it needed

552
00:28:08,039 --> 00:28:14,000
to come back centrically from, a vision standpoint Hyper focused

553
00:28:14,039 --> 00:28:18,559
on christ and discipleship and becoming and developing and becoming

554
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:24,319
the best version of yourself. Temporarily and spiritually, so love

555
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:30,480
that loved that Those Comments from elder gilbert and the

556
00:28:30,559 --> 00:28:33,839
Perspective That even elder holland gave once. Upon, A time,

557
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:35,720
ronald your, thoughts your commentary your follow.

558
00:28:35,799 --> 00:28:39,359
Speaker 5: Up, to this, yeah YOU know as i was preparing

559
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:41,319
THIS clip, AND i was i was truly, listening to

560
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:44,319
it being a lot came, to, My mind.

561
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:47,880
Speaker 6: Right, and YOU know because i. THINK about everybody i

562
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:51,960
think about those, that you know, are in favor those

563
00:28:52,039 --> 00:28:52,519
that might have.

564
00:28:52,559 --> 00:28:55,079
Speaker 5: Differences, Of opinion right that's the best part about JOURNALISM

565
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:57,480
also which i like and this country is. Freedom of

566
00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:00,960
speech is that everybody, has a, voice you know and

567
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:04,440
even with those that might want, to do things, you

568
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:07,240
know differently the part that is still and you have

569
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:08,759
to go watch a whole intervie because these are clips

570
00:29:08,759 --> 00:29:11,279
that are cut. And put together even those that might

571
00:29:11,279 --> 00:29:13,480
want to go, about things differently they still like the mission.

572
00:29:13,519 --> 00:29:15,559
OF the school i don't want that to be taken, away,

573
00:29:15,559 --> 00:29:17,880
of like, oh you know the five percent, of professors

574
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:21,759
know like there are people there who still, love the,

575
00:29:21,839 --> 00:29:24,160
mission like right we all want to go, about things

576
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:28,119
differently but our common goal and purpose. Is THE same and,

577
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:30,240
i LOVE that and i love that those that down,

578
00:29:30,319 --> 00:29:32,359
there want this the, professors want that they want that.

579
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:34,519
FOR the students i felt that, as a student, right You,

580
00:29:34,559 --> 00:29:37,640
know Doctor, Romney doctor boyle jeff call is a former

581
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:38,319
media member.

582
00:29:38,559 --> 00:29:40,559
Speaker 6: NOW who works i felt that from all of them

583
00:29:41,119 --> 00:29:41,519
to really.

584
00:29:41,559 --> 00:29:44,119
Speaker 5: Push HIS mission and, i felt that you, KNOW more

585
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:47,279
so I think as i was going out of school than,

586
00:29:47,319 --> 00:29:48,920
in THE beginning and i don't think it. WAS anything

587
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:51,279
different i think you just realize it, as a, student

588
00:29:51,359 --> 00:29:54,119
like wow my. Time's almost ups you buy into it a.

589
00:29:54,119 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 1: Little.

590
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:56,319
Speaker 6: BIT more so, I love, this and.

591
00:29:56,519 --> 00:29:58,799
Speaker 5: Look whenever they, start to slip whenever, they fall back

592
00:29:58,799 --> 00:30:00,680
they're going to make sure that they get It Right

593
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:02,519
in elder holland one of the one, of the best,

594
00:30:02,599 --> 00:30:05,279
right you know and tuned in. With the spirits so

595
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:07,960
the faculty and staff really are a part of it

596
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,039
because they're the ones that are teaching this. Every SINGLE

597
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:13,839
day so i always felt for my faculty and STAFF

598
00:30:14,079 --> 00:30:16,279
and those i was around that they embodied the mission AND,

599
00:30:16,359 --> 00:30:17,880
vision OF byu and i feel LIKE that's why i

600
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:18,559
was able to succeed.

601
00:30:18,559 --> 00:30:21,559
Speaker 1: As a student boy. You had slipped there were a

602
00:30:21,559 --> 00:30:23,680
lot of pressures for b to be just. Like The

603
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:27,400
world president holland was bemoaning that he could feel this

604
00:30:27,519 --> 00:30:30,400
drift happening. To the, university he's like what have they

605
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:33,079
done with our school that we. LOVE so much i

606
00:30:33,079 --> 00:30:36,880
think we've seen an awesome leadership change as WELL, at

607
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:43,119
b yu where it's very positive, and CHRIST centered and

608
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:48,720
i think you, get a holistic balanced. EDUCATION as well

609
00:30:49,359 --> 00:30:51,599
i think you need to. Have it all you need

610
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:54,400
to have it all and not just be bogged down

611
00:30:54,480 --> 00:31:03,359
by by kind of the the arbitrary curriculums and the science,

612
00:31:03,799 --> 00:31:07,759
of it all the temporal nature, of IT all and

613
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:10,440
i think that's where we've. Maybe GONE adrift and i

614
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:12,480
do also think there was a certain amount of like

615
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:15,759
socio political pressure as well from certain entities within and.

616
00:31:16,119 --> 00:31:19,759
Without the institution so it's good to see that they're

617
00:31:19,799 --> 00:31:27,759
going back to their, core centric philosophies theologies and Ultimately

618
00:31:28,079 --> 00:31:30,480
aligning with christ, in my opinion let's get. Back To

619
00:31:30,519 --> 00:31:33,759
it elder gilbert also went into a little bit about

620
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,960
how the. World needs faith that's the UNIQUE and distinct

621
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:40,000
i think it values that be what you have is

622
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:45,480
that it combines the worldly to a degree, with this

623
00:31:45,559 --> 00:31:48,000
spiritual the temporal. With the spiritual the. World needs faith

624
00:31:48,039 --> 00:31:52,440
you need to have faith and academics. Faith and science

625
00:31:52,519 --> 00:31:56,519
this Is This week elder. Gilbert discussed this let's. Get

626
00:31:56,519 --> 00:31:59,519
into that do we have a SoundBite on this? One,

627
00:31:59,559 --> 00:32:00,880
as well okay let's get.

628
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:04,240
Speaker 4: To that one in my Responsibilities, As the commissioner i've

629
00:32:04,279 --> 00:32:07,559
worked with a lot of academic leaders, in the nation

630
00:32:08,559 --> 00:32:13,400
those of faith based universities, and secular universities and those

631
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:17,640
friendships have been, real and meaningful and there's been an.

632
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:22,720
Outpouring of Outreach My Friend, rabbi ari Berman President, Of Yeshiva,

633
00:32:22,839 --> 00:32:26,200
university shirley hoopstra the head of the former Head Of

634
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:32,200
the Christian council Of, Colleges, and universities catholic The Presidents,

635
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:36,279
at notre dame and they all understand this is. A

636
00:32:36,319 --> 00:32:39,240
significant thing they all don't share, our exact faith and

637
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:42,960
some of them don't, even have faith but they knew.

638
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:45,880
This was significant one Of the things i've tried to

639
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:49,880
encourage all of the faith based leaders in our nation

640
00:32:50,119 --> 00:32:56,680
is to stand, confidently for values character and, in our

641
00:32:56,759 --> 00:33:01,519
case faith and being confident and up for those things in.

642
00:33:01,559 --> 00:33:04,440
The public square to our friends, Of other faith i'd

643
00:33:04,559 --> 00:33:08,559
encourage them to be bold and strong and confident in.

644
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:12,759
Helping our nation our. Nation needs faith the. World needs

645
00:33:12,799 --> 00:33:17,119
faith if you look at every measure, of human flourishing

646
00:33:17,799 --> 00:33:22,160
how correlated it is to faith practice. And faith engagement the,

647
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:25,480
World needs us the nation needs us to. All be engaged.

648
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 1: You need faith you need to. Have a belief you

649
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:32,160
need to. HAVE a belief i think, in the afterlife

650
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:34,680
you need to have a belief that what you're doing

651
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:37,519
in this life doesn't have. To be transactional it. Can

652
00:33:37,559 --> 00:33:40,559
be transformational you can become rather than just do a

653
00:33:40,599 --> 00:33:42,640
lot of people get bogged down with all the dues

654
00:33:42,759 --> 00:33:45,759
Doos doo's zo's what is it? That we're becoming and why?

655
00:33:45,799 --> 00:33:49,000
Does it matter to have faith in the? World BEYOND

656
00:33:49,079 --> 00:33:52,559
this so. I love it i think the. World needs

657
00:33:52,559 --> 00:33:56,000
faith it's a Powerful Commentary. From elder gilbert that's, your

658
00:33:56,079 --> 00:33:59,000
insaderb guys because you have to always remember why you're

659
00:33:59,039 --> 00:34:01,759
doing what. You're doing right you have TO Remember why

660
00:34:01,799 --> 00:34:08,840
b yu is IN The why b lau's institution does

661
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:11,880
what it does and why it's an imperative to align

662
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:15,960
with the principles and Ordinances of the gospel and promote

663
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:20,239
discipleship and ultimately up and coming combining both the secular

664
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:23,599
and the. Spiritual FAITH matters can i?

665
00:34:23,639 --> 00:34:26,280
Speaker 5: BE honest before i just want, to say this you

666
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:29,239
don't have to always know the why or understand it and. The,

667
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:31,840
Process too like i'm gonna be very. HONEST with people,

668
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:34,039
i was LIKE why do i need to? Serve, a

669
00:34:34,039 --> 00:34:36,599
mission well just because someone tells me TO or like i,

670
00:34:36,639 --> 00:34:39,280
get the answer and a lot Of people because i'm different, With,

671
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:42,079
my spirituality like just because you receive an answer doesn't

672
00:34:42,119 --> 00:34:42,320
mean you have.

673
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:44,239
Speaker 6: To do it you. Have your, agency but okay what's?

674
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:46,039
The why though okay, He told me? But WHY though

675
00:34:46,079 --> 00:34:46,440
and i didn't.

676
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:48,360
Speaker 5: Get that, answer YOU know when i got that ANSWER

677
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:50,320
bent when i steppedoot off the plane, TWO years later

678
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:53,519
i think that's that's where, faith, Is at right and

679
00:34:53,559 --> 00:34:57,679
that's just me giving my own. Testimonial an antidote but faith.

680
00:34:57,719 --> 00:34:59,400
Is keep going it's, on the, journey you know and.

681
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:02,920
Everybody needs. It it's, positivity you know you're not gonna

682
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:04,920
know and get the answer to everything. That you're, doing

683
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:07,760
sometimes until like it says, in the scriptures after the trilley,

684
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:09,199
OF your faith i DIDN'T know why i need to

685
00:35:09,199 --> 00:35:12,000
deserve A mission until i CAME home, And, i said wow.

686
00:35:12,079 --> 00:35:12,559
Speaker 1: That WAS why?

687
00:35:12,639 --> 00:35:15,400
Speaker 5: Could i imagine could you have IMAGINE been if i wouldn't,

688
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:17,519
have done that what my life could have looked like

689
00:35:17,559 --> 00:35:19,320
and not necessarily would have been Bad of what i'd have.

690
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:20,079
Speaker 6: Missed OUT on.

691
00:35:20,199 --> 00:35:22,280
Speaker 5: And i think that's just faith in the world is we,

692
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:24,320
need positive positivity.

693
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:24,519
Speaker 6: Whether we're believers.

694
00:35:24,599 --> 00:35:27,840
Speaker 5: Or non believers and that first and Second GREATEST greatest

695
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:28,920
commandment i think has a lot of.

696
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:33,880
Speaker 1: Faith in it been, Love, That commentary ronnie we'll, Go

697
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:36,400
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The New rules chris fanini Reporting via the athletic PERS

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the targeting carryover. Suspension this week they also want to start,

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penalizing the shortcuts which are already. Against the rules targeting

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suspensions pant legth penalties could BE Changed As ncaa. Rules

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committee meets changes around the punishment for tar getting penalties

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major discussions are revolving this week. In these COMMITTEES when

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The Ncaa And Football playing rules committee conducts it's annual

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MEETING At The nfl scouting combines to propose rule changes for.

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The upcoming season what would you like, To see change

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ronald the? Three man weaver are there specifics as it

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pertains to, the targeting penalty, the carryover penalties and or

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maybe jersey, and pant length the way the form of

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fashion which these guys are playing ball in. THEIR respective uniforms.

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Speaker 6: I don't know too much about the uniforms been haven't.

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Speaker 5: Thought about that but THE aspect that i have thought

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about is been into business now they get, paid, to

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play right so it should BE. LIKE the nfl i

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know they are going to be people that are listening,

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disagreeing with me.

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Speaker 6: And that's fine they're entitled.

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Speaker 5: To THEIR opinion but i think everybody would say this because,

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everybody's you know everyone is black and white until they

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want it. To, be great well here's the. Great for

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everybody why are we kicking kids? Out of games why is?

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It carrying over like if you get kicked out, of

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a game even in the fourth quarterbin and it carries

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over the first half of.

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Speaker 6: THE next game i don't think that should.

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Speaker 7: That.

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Speaker 5: SHOULD happen now i understand if it occurs in the.

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Final two minutes you got to figure. Those things out

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but they should be reviewing. These, TARGETING calls ben i

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think they should be, finding the, STUDENTS you Know I

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asked brian logan this a couple of weeks ago when this.

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First GOT word but i think you should treat it LIKE,

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it's the nfl, and you know if it's egregious and

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you know you could, see it's malicious you. Kick them out,

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but if not they should be able to stand the

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ball game and then they get a fine at the end.

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Of the game But that's where i'm leaning men SOMEWHERE

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in the i don't have, all THE answers but i

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think that's the the realm that.

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Speaker 6: WE should go i don't like the care. OF a

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rule i. Think that's terrible then to get.

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Speaker 5: RID of it i hope, That they do but, if

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they do still, kick you KNOW kids out, i UNDERSTAND

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why but i think it should BE like the nfl

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give them a fine. First time penalty if they do it,

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the second time, then they're gone. Which COULD happen but

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i don't like the nature of seeing players get kicked out.

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Speaker 1: Of, The game, yeah i'm look, IF it's egregious i

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think you, have a sequence maybe a tiered. System of subjectivity,

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and you know, targeting IS targeting so i think that's

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an objective call whether or. Not it's, malicious you know

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whether or not it was. A devastating blow maybe that's

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a little bit more subjective that could be graded out if, it's,

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you know incidental accidental a guy is sliding like a

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quarterback or running. TYPICALLY a quarterback a quarterback slides and

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you kind of, lean into them and it's a. Minor

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mild targeting. Penalize the play don't penalize and kick. Out

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the player does, That make sense like it's, if it's

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malicious kick him out. OF the game i don't think

806
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there should be carryover though. To next game penalize them

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for that game and let him come back and. Play

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the game if you want to involve the monetary, side,

809
00:41:03,599 --> 00:41:05,719
of things okay you kick him out. Of that game

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any any there's, A stiff FINE i just i don't

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know what, that looks like because you, can't do that

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because you're gonna, have, TO say, well p four you

813
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know rosters are getting penalized, at THIS rate and g

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six rosters GETTING penalized this i don't think. That'd BE

815
00:41:23,159 --> 00:41:27,360
wise but i think getting penalized in the game that matters,

816
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:33,239
if it's malicious if it's a if it's a malintent

817
00:41:34,039 --> 00:41:37,039
type of hit, rather than incidental you can kind of

818
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see whether or not it's incidental or if it's. Malicious

819
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in nature maybe that's, getting TOO subjective but i don't like.

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SEEING the carryover i think having someone sit out the following.

821
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Half is ridiculous penalize, them that game kick him, out

822
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that game or kick him out. For the half i'd

823
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be fine if you Get if you if if you

824
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are are kicked out for, THE first half. I don't

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know maybe you can come back in, The SECOND half

826
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but i guess that's up for another day. And ANOTHER

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debate but i don't like to see guys with these

828
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minor hits that are cold targeting kicked. Out of games

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but those are my thoughts on the matter where do.

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