Speaker 1: WMNH will rip the noveles what Matts wakes up in
the morning, he gets into the shower and to the
top of his lungs he sings.
Speaker 2: Wine because I kidd him all right.
Speaker 1: Bank the radio show now on the best Jemmy.
Speaker 2: Thanks Jerry, Welcome back everybody. We have entered our number
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live of course, today is Saturday, February twenty eight, twenty
twenty six. Nice have you with us, And I'm gonna
ahead and bring this up because we also have joining
us online Charles Richardson from The Charles Richardson Show.
Speaker 3: Hello, Charles, greetings, and thanks for having me on this
last day of February.
Speaker 2: Absolutely so.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: I know this doesn't affect you because you are in Florida,
but I like to think of the last day of
February as being the last day of winter. And I'll
tell you why, because my something my dad taught me
he likes to think. He liked to think of winter
as really only being two months long, just January and February,
because most of December is technically still fall, so then
you have January and February to contend with, and by
the time you get to March, it's technically still winter.
But at that point, you know, whatever happens happens, you
don't care because any day now it's all gonna warm
up and everything's gonna melt and it's gonna be fine.
So in my mind, tomorrow, March first, is the first
day of spring. Okay, but where you are, it doesn't matter, right,
it don't matter.
Speaker 3: It's spring except for a few fragments of really really
chilly air. I'm not gonna say cold, because I am
I am northern or by blood. I was the one
that went out here in t shirts and shorts wets
forty degrees, and I see the rest of the people
bundle up like it's gonna be a blizzard soon. So
it's people look at me weird. I look at them
weird too. Like in the fifties, people are still bundling
up with with layers and layers like, are you crazy?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 3: Come on, it's it just doesn't bother me. Maybe also
because I'm like three hundred pounds, so it's like.
Speaker 2: Me a little bit more. See, you don't get cold
as easily as uh no, maybe other other folks.
Speaker 3: No, everybody else. Everybody else is turning on the heat Monday,
and it's like thirty five degrees over here. I got
the window open and I'm sleeping in my normal thing.
So it's like I was, I was in heaven.
Speaker 2: How how cold is it in the winter there? Like that?
Is it getting down to thirty five? Is that normal?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 3: In about so the cumlative days that it gets into
the thirties, I have two hands to count the days. Really, yeah,
it doesn't. It doesn't happen that often. And when it does,
they have a thing called falling iguana warnings that are
down here. Really, I kid you not. I'd use another word,
but just that. That's how ridiculous it sounds. Is Literally,
if it gets below forty degrees, the iguanas will literally freeze,
frozen and fall from trees. They're not dead, Why're just
frozen and they fall. And there's that's literally a thing
down here.
Speaker 2: I'd never heard of this before.
Speaker 3: So when you go ahead and hear, well, have you
never heard of it, then you probably not gonna hear it.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: But every time you hear a frozen to guana warning
down here in Florida, it's literally things that don't don't
don't kill the iguanas or anything. They're still alive. They're
just they're hibernating warms up again.
Speaker 2: I'll be damned. Oh that's wild. Yeah, I had no idea.
I had no idea.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's crazy.
Speaker 2: Speaking of iguanas. By the way, I don't know how
you feel about him. Jenny and I are both very
big fans of mister Iguana.
Speaker 3: Yeah I heard. Listen to me, that was a wasted
d rumblespot. Oh he didn't. He didn't do a whole lot.
And he look like he looked like doing the clown
to me. Oh, yes, he's very Listen, he's very athletic.
I'm not gonna say anything, but it's like, listen, give
him bring him up to to to NXT limbs, see
what he can do on that. You know. I know
he's in triple A and everything. So okay, it's fine.
He's gonna get his fair share. Of exposure. But to me,
mister Gana, it sounds like a Vince McMahon gimmick name.
It really does. I'm not gonna say, I'm not gonna
say he's not talented or anything like that. Yeah, I'm
just saying that the first exposure I have mister Guana. No,
it's just it doesn't rub me the right way. It
really doesn't.
Speaker 2: We love, we love mister Ivana.
Speaker 3: Apparently I have. I have very quick judgment to the name. Well,
not not the man.
Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you what, I got a bunch of
crap for it. On So on Friday nights, I'm a
co host on Retrospectrum Radio with poly C and they
they they they recently gave they've gave me a bunch
of crap about my love for mister Iguana. But I
think he's great. I say, put the belt on him,
make him the champion.
Speaker 3: What do you think, Yeah, definitely put a belt on him,
so you can go ahead and hold this tights up
a little bit better. Belt.
Speaker 2: Well, part of why we're talking today, of course, aside
from the fact that we always love to have you on,
of course, and you are the host of the Charles
richardson show. But today, speaking of shows, is Elimination Chamber. Now,
I should tell you that Jenny and I have not
yet watched SmackDown. And the reason we haven't watched SmackDown
yet is because on Friday nights, I of course, am
on Retrospectrum Radio, so we usually don't get to smack
Down until Saturday, and then we won't even get to
Elimination Chamber until either later this evening or possibly even tomorrow,
so we may be a little bit behind. Now. I'm
not putting any limitations on our conversation, of course, but
I'm just offering this as a spoiler alert. Jenny doesn't spoilers,
so if we're if we talk about SmackDown at all,
which I assume we will, because that will affect the
Elimination Chamber. You know, Jenny might want to tune out
because I don't mind spoilers. Uh. But Jenny, of course, Uh,
I know she doesn't want any, so this will give
her a chance to, uh to shut this off if
she's listening. But but I, but I I think something
you got go ahead.
Speaker 3: You got you got three seconds, two seconds, one second,
And I have just one word for you. It's three letters,
and it's USO. And the reason why I say USO
is because USO is out of the elimination chamber. Okay,
thanks to the very first part of SmackDown. He got
beaten down in an ambulance and the rumors were it
was Drew McIntyre. Okay, So that opened up a spot
for Jacob Fattou and a part of the vision which
probably guess doing one that's not injured. It's Logan Paul
actually should be Austin theory is not injured, but do
we really count him right anyway, But so Logan and
Paul and Fartu went ahead and got into a match,
and the final elimination chamber of spot goes to Matt
I'm gonna give you a guess.
Speaker 2: But Jacob Fatu No, oh, Logan.
Speaker 3: Paul because Dumac and Tyre has to.
Speaker 2: Wait what say that again?
Speaker 3: It is the final entrant in the elimination chamber. So
Jay us So is out, Logan Paul is in.
Speaker 2: Just fyi, oh okay, gotcha? Gotcha. By the way, what
do you think of Logan Paul? Because I know he's
he's kind of divisive. I think he's incredible as a
I mean, I'm not I'm not so sure about some
of the other things he's gotten involved in terms of
business practices and so forth. But people call him a
scammer of this and that. But I think as a
professional wrestler, I think he's incredible.
Speaker 3: I think Logan Paul is actually mister Honor.
Speaker 2: He's too tall, too tall.
Speaker 3: I'm just saying he's very athletic. I mean, definitely, he
has all the characteristics of being a WWE guy. He
really does. And I'm not gonna call him a superstar
or a wrestler because I guess they're neither, you know so,
But Logan Paul's got everything. He's dazzled us in the ring.
He really does. Now he's becoming a full time thing
because I guess his YouTube channel making money anymore, I
don't know. But you know, he's obviously been an influencer,
which that's a thing nowadays. That's a that's a career
choice along with only fans. That's a career choice now.
And now he's turned into he's actually making himself full time,
which I am very happy to see. That way, you
can really see what he's like in the ring. Three
hundred and sixty five days a year, and we'll see
how he handles himself with his character. And I think
put him in the vision is a good way to
kind of mask any oopsies that he may do because
he's with a group. And who better to mentor than
Paul Hayman. Paul Hayman is done, CM Punk done, brock Lesner,
he's done, Roman Reigns. All those careers basically took off
with Paul Haymon involved. And you got to give the
Walhrs his due. We really do so. I think Paul Logan, Paul,
I think he's going to be excellent. As a matter
of fact, I don't doubt that he wins tonight.
Speaker 2: Oh you think really? You think he's going to win
the elimination chaper.
Speaker 3: I don't have a solid bet on that one, but
he's I mean, he could be built up to it
because I think a lot of I think a lot
of the storytelling has tooken some turns because of injuries.
I think it should have been Bronson Reid in that
last spot, but right get injured.
Speaker 2: Triceptare Yeah, I believe it is triceptor Bceptar. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I know it has something to do with the tries,
so I think he was supposed to be one in there,
but I think they had they had to make a pivot,
and that's why jay Usso he won, wasn't supposed to win.
That's why he's beaten up and now and that that's
the that's the swagger, that that's the swing they're doing.
So I don't I wouldn't be surprised if Logan Paul
is set to go ahead and uh and win, or
at least be in the final two.
Speaker 2: I think it's very unlikely that he wins because they're
not gonna want to send him to WrestleMania the main event, right,
I mean not yet. Maybe next year eventually, but not yet.
Speaker 3: You know, no, No, I mean you take a look
at if you take a look at the men's chamber,
the chamber match, you got Cody Rhodes, Javon Evans, l
A Night, Logan, Paul, Randy One, and Trick Williams. A
lot of new lou faces. I like Trick, oh, yeah,
Trick lot. I like Javon. Javon could do some amazing
things in that in that chamber.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Jenny loves him too. Yeah, Evans incredible.
Speaker 3: I really hope and I know this is probably not
gonna be true, but I really hope it is not Cody,
and it's not Randy.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's somebody else.
Speaker 3: Take this rein somebody that somebody that's a face. If
you take a look, really, all of these people are
faces except Logan ball Well.
Speaker 2: Trick Williams is kinda I don't know what to think
because he acts like a heel. Everything about him is
a heel, but the fans love him.
Speaker 3: I'm saying, it's like, if you want to go, I
think Trick is all about Trick. He doesn't care about
anybody else's so I don't call him a face or
a heel. I think he's just he's just for himself.
So does that make him a heel? I don't think so,
I think, but it definitely doesn't make it. You know,
him being a crowd favorite, I think automatically puts him
into that face category.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because the crowd explodes when his music hits. I mean,
that's the bigg he gets the biggest. He gets a
bigger face pop than most of the babyfaces. Even though
he acts like a heel. He kind of reminds me
of the rock, you know, the rock even when the
Rock was a babyface early on, you know he was
he was all about himself, you know, he wasn't the
most empathetic babyface, and I think Trick Williams is probably
a very similar to that. I certainly don't think it's
going to be Randy Orton. I think it's most likely
to be Cody Rhods, but they may also If it's
not Cody, then that means they're going to use tonight's
match to because they've been teasing it for so long,
there's finally going to be some sort of a breakdown
between Cody Roads and Randy Orton. You think so, I do.
I think that they're They've been teasing that and teasing it,
and I think I think this is going to be
the moment.
Speaker 3: It's finally about time, right, It's about time to see
heel Roads roseby and a heel or.
Speaker 2: Well or the Randy Orton heel turn. But the problem
with turning Orton heel is he is so and he
has been since he came back for the past couple
of years. He is so over as a babyface, the
way the fans sing his song, I've never seen him
as over as a babyface, even though he's an excellent heel.
So you think so okay, So you think tonight they
pulled the trigger on the Cody Roads heel turn.
Speaker 3: I didn't say that. I was asking you if you
think that's oh okay.
Speaker 2: I I don't know if they it's so there's so
much risk in doing it. I want to see it.
Jenny wants to see it too. She was saying she's
ready for it. I think it would be great. I
have long speculated because we don't know. They've never told
us who actually is responsible for the attack on Jacob
fat Too, and I've said all along, what if it's Cody,
Hm hmm, what if it somehow is revealed that it
was Cody.
Speaker 3: That's interesting. I think that's really too far off. But
you know what, it would be the first time that
wwe surprised me.
Speaker 2: They dropped a hint though they opened the door. Right
after it happened, there was a conversation between Cody Rhads
and Nick All This where Cody Rhodes said to Nick
All this, by the way, I'm really sorry about what
happened to Jacob. I like Jacob, it's terrible, And then
he moved on to something else in their conversation. But
I remember him saying that and thinking why did they
have him go out of his way to say that
and to say how much he likes Jacob Plot too? Why?
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're right, because because fat two cost Roads to
Belt literally in that that match. So they they've had
some beef. But hey, you know what that that's that
makes a lot of sense too. If they will go
ahead and pull the trigger, all right, I wouldn't be
I wouldn't be too shocked on that. Yeah, I don't
think why would it make Roads a bad guy? It
was just one guy that he has a thing against it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but if it turned out he's the one responsible
for the attack, I mean, that's a heel thing to do.
That's that you know, a baby face wouldn't do that.
Speaker 3: So yeah, that's true. That's true.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it is but it is risky there, there's
there's always a risk to it. But but the shock
of it would be a lot of fun.
Speaker 3: Yeah, if you can. If you're gonna make a heel turn, listen,
don't be like, don't do to Cody like you did
John Cena and just like eh merchandise is up. You're
just gonna keep you face and faith. No turn him,
turn them, if you're gonna do it, turn them.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean Cody even said he came out and said
the next contract to gets to w W is gonna
be his last. Yeah, so you know what, let's just
do it, just do it. Yeah, but what's it really
gonna hurt? You know? Orton's on the end of his career,
Cody's on the end of his career. Man love to
see La Night win. I would love to see ol
a night. I think he's overdue a push for so long.
I love to see him again.
Speaker 2: Drew, I would love to see it too, And I
think most of the fans would love to see it.
I just don't think they're going to. Do you watch well?
So let me ask you this because it's has to
do with my thought on La Night. Do you think
they lost confidence in him? Because I assumed did you
watch WWE? Unreal?
Speaker 3: No, he didn't.
Speaker 2: Oh you haven't seen it.
Speaker 3: Oh, I've seen. I've seen two episodes of the first season.
I am so behind on that. Oh.
Speaker 2: Jenny and I ended up binge watching it because it's
so good and I know a lot of it. There's
a lot of negativity negativity online toward that show, and
I don't quite understand it. I think it's I think
it's fantastic. I know, I know a lot of the
podcasters don't like it. James Romero hates it. I think
it's really good. But but there's a moment you might
be aware of this. There's there is a moment where
because when they did money in the Bank, La Knight
apparently made a mistake and it screwed up the ending
of the match. And there's a scene in Unreal where
Triple H is kind of telling l A. Knight, look,
you really mess this up. Here's what was supposed to happen.
I don't know what you were thinking, that kind of thing.
And so it has a lot of people speculating that
they may have lost confidence in l. A. Night and
that's why he remains. He's always like on the edge
of being in main events, but he never quite quite
gets that push all the way to the top. And uh,
and and that the speculation that that might be why
Eric Pilcher and Austin and I we talked about it
on toff Bumps recently. You know that that may be
the reason.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a lot of politics to go on behind
the scenes too, whether you get a push or not.
And you know, my my question has always been listening.
He's over with the crowd. You know, we enjoy I
enjoy his matches. I think he has a love of athleticism.
He's not a typical three moves of doom type of person.
You know, he's got he's got a good finisher. Why
are we not pushing him?
Speaker 2: What?
Speaker 3: What? What's the what's the hold up? What's going on?
And stuff like that behind the scenes when you're not
cooperating with what was supposed to be planned, and they're
kind of like saying, you know what the deal is, Yeah,
that can hold you back, That really can't so uh
and and to backtrack, listen, an unreal is for the
person that kind of wants to see what's going on.
Paul Haymon's come out and says he absolutely hates it.
Speaker 2: He says it right on the show.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, he hates it because it's literally you're pulling
the curtain way too far back and that's supposed to
be kept sacred, right and steampunk kind of feels the
same way a little bit. He said he he refused
to do a couple of things that they asked him
to do or he asked him to cut it out
or something like that. So yeah, it is really one
of those things where it it polarizes the industry a
little bit because it's like, you know, a lot of
people are against it and listen to what's kept behind
that curtain, should be kept behind that curtain?
Speaker 2: M hm.
Speaker 3: Out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love all that stuff even you know, even
if but see, I would enjoy that show even if
it didn't pull back the curtain as much. But it
just kind of showed you behind the scenes how things work,
you know, and gorilla position and everything. You know, even
if they even if they didn't give anything away really,
even if it was a little bit more k fame,
but still it showed you kind of kind of just
how things work behind the scenes. I would still even
find that really fascinating, just because I love that kind
of stuff anyway. I always have.
Speaker 3: You know, Yeah, who do you think of when you
see Drew McIntyre on camera? You think of him as
you think of him as not a nice guy, you
and now you take a look behind the scenes and
it's like, oh, well, you know, he's he's he's a
loving husband, father or whatever they whatever he is, you know,
and you know he's actually gotta got a human side
to him, right, you know, say you know the same
thing with Solo Socoa, so those you know, just he's
he's a he's a bad guy, but you know, behind
the scenes, you know he's got a family, just like
everybody else does, you know, And and and that's that's
the way, you know, you need to take a look
at I mean, a lot of people, they they want
just the image on TV, so they can generally hate
somebody or like somebody based on what they see on
the camera. But I think you know, there's a lot
more people that know that, listen, this is a character. Yeah,
it's not really them, right, but you know, but what
does that do to the character?
Speaker 4: Now?
Speaker 3: Now it's kind of like a little bit clouded. Do
I cheer for him? Or do I do I hate him?
Because you know who they are behind the scenes and
how they are as a real person, but they're playing
a bad guy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean to me, it doesn't bother me, It
never has. I compartmentalize it pretty easily because I just
look at it the same way I look at anything else.
You know, they're they're they're actors, so so I you know,
I'm not the slightest bit bothered by seeing, you know,
somebody like Drew McIntyre who's supposed to be a bad guy.
You know, when I when I see him outside in
a different context and it turns out he's actually a
nice guy, it's like, well, yeah, I actually kind of
assumed that already. I assume he's not the character that
he plays on television, just like with anything else. So
it's it's never bothered me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, exactly. You still have you still have these
simple minded people were just getting into wrestling thinking, oh
my god, well, why are they allowed to do that?
Speaker 2: Called the cop yees o. Relax it's a show. Yes, yes,
oh my word.
Speaker 3: They said wrestling was fake. This looks so real. It's
fake because the outcomes are predetermined.
Speaker 2: It is weird to me, though, that in the year
twenty twenty six, because as a wrestling fan, I've been
dealing with this my whole life. And I'm sure you
have two as every wrestling fan has. Even today, I'll
have a conversation with someone who doesn't like wrestling and
they will say to me, well, you know, it's all fake, right,
It's like, no kidding, Really, it's scripted. It's scripted entertainment. Wow, No,
I thought it was all real. I also thought Star
Trek was real. I thought it was a documentary about
going into outer space. I thought Game of Thrones were real.
I thought those dragons were real dragons. Like, it's so insulting.
It's like because when somebody says that to me, to me,
it's like, what they're really saying is either they think
I'm an idiot or or they they just or they
just look down on something that I happen to, Like
it's just because they don't like it.
Speaker 3: What's the sacond one? It's yeah, they're not calling you
an idiot. I think it's them they're being idiots. It's
it's like, you really think that we don't know. You
really think we don't know? Oh, yes, we know they're
going through tables and yes, how do you prevent that
from being fake? What is the AI? It's table to AI.
This is just a character that's that's dropping on tails.
It's really a big mattress pad. We know that they Listen,
It's it's fake to a point. Listen, you get bumps
and bruises. That's the reason why there's injuries.
Speaker 2: Now, the injuries are real.
Speaker 3: You are taking risk, but it is calculated risks. Yeah,
it's not. We're not going to throw somebody off of
still cage and they're gonna land on concrete. No, there's
gonna be something to break the fall. So there's not
a serious injury, right, you know, it's that point there
is still bumps and bruises, you know, it's people still
deal with pain.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I may have told this story. I know I've told.
I can't remember who I've told this story to and
who I haven't, So I don't know if listeners have
heard this yet or have heard this before, or if
you have Charles. But when I was a kid, so
I had a friend who really looked down on wrestling,
and we're having a conversation about it, and uh, and
he pulled that with me. He's like, well, you know
it's fake, right, And I'm like, yeah, I know obviously,
even when I was a kid, I mean I knew,
I understood it was scripted entertainment. And I remember he
said to me, he goes, well, if there's a if
it's all if it's all predetermined where's the integrity in it?
That's literally what he said to me, where's the integrity?
And I knew about him, and there's by the way,
there's a horrible irony to what I'm about to say,
But this is how the conversation went. I said to
him because I knew he was a fan of the
Cosby Show. So I said to him, I said, well,
you like the Cosby Show, right, and he goes yeah,
And I said, well, did you know that that's all fake?
Did you know that Cliff Huxtable that his name is
an actually Cliff Huxtable, and that it's really Bill Cosby
and he's an actor and that's not a real family.
They're all actors and they're just pretending. Where's the integrity
in the Cosby Now? Of course, again, what we know
about Bill Cosby today, that's the part that makes it
horribly ironic, uncomfortably so, actually, But we didn't know that.
But I just remember saying that to him. It's like, yeah, well,
where's the integrity in the Cosby Show? That's all fake?
You know, it's all scripted, you know. But again, you know,
and that was when I was a kid, and you know,
here we are in twenty twenty six, and people still
come at us with that and it's like, yeah, we know,
it's fun.
Speaker 3: It's just it's just now, it's it's the circle of life.
It's the circle of disbelief. That's what it is. You
got these new new kids that are like it's fake,
you know, yeah, And and you know what, in twenty years,
it's gonna be the same thing. It's gonna be the
same thing. But hopefully by then, maybe we you know,
evolve from these apes of people that you know, would
would like would go to humans to understand that this
is all entertainment. It's all it is. But it's fun.
It's fun, just like you know, you ladies out there
like your soap operas. You realize that Salem is not
really a place. It's based on a place, but it's
not really a place.
Speaker 2: Salem.
Speaker 3: Oh, I don't even know if it's sale master. I
think my wife says, like Illinois, they they they're based
in Salem, Illinois. What days of our lives?
Speaker 2: Oh, days of our lives?
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, you know, it's like, you know, you got
the I just love this. I love it. I don't
watch it, trust me, but I've seen things that she
watches on that soap opera. Literally, if there's like a
fight and there they're holding some hostage at gunpoint, that
gun point last for five episodes.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, you got to fill five.
Speaker 3: We're you gonna pull the trigger or lose control? What's
going on here?
Speaker 2: Well well, yes, yeah, soap operas are paced a little
differently than a weekly show because it's on five days
a week. And I understand that because you know, I,
like I I grew up watching General Hospital. I blame
that on my mother. She got me hooked on it
one summer. And but but the thing is, yeah, well
the thing is, though General Hospital had and still does
from what I understand to this day. You know, it
had it had all the tropes of a soap opera,
but it also had like this really strong action adventure
element to it, you know, with with Russian spies and
mob stories and you know, so uh so that's why,
even as a little boy, I was able to get
hooked into into that. But it also it's worth noting
that some of those same elements about General Hospital are
probably some of the same elements that got me hooked
on wrestling, because wrestling so much of that is you know,
inspired by In terms of the storytelling soap operas.
Speaker 3: It is a soap opera is a male action soap
opera that involves guys dressed in tights fighting each other
in a ten by ten ring. Yes, and women too,
speaking of those, speaking of those athletes and tights, let's
go over the matches tonight, Yes, yes, please, obviously I
want to go ahead and get your picks as well
as mine. Okay, it's gonna be a little odd to
pick these because we're not picking one on ones. It
will least for two of them. It's going to be
which one of the five or six do you think
is going to walk out of here? Okay, we already
kind of you know, mentioned a little bit about the
men's Cody, Javon Night Logan, Randy and Trick.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's gonna be Cody.
Speaker 3: I I do too, But you know, if I had
to go ahead and man, yeah, I after you told
me what happened on Unreal, I don't think they have
Ellie Knight doing it, and I think Trick and Javan
they're too young right now. Yeah, Yeah, it's gonna come
down to the two older people when I really hope
they fool us. I really hope they fool us and
they go ahead and do Night or they do Javan.
Speaker 2: I would love it.
Speaker 3: I really hope so.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: But yeah, if I'm gonna put if I'm gonna have
to put money on, it's Cody. Yeah, it's sad to say.
Speaker 2: And it's definitely not gonna be Javan. They're not gonna
be He's not gonna be in the main event of
WrestleMania already. But he's got a long career ahead of him.
He's got plenty of time, and so does Trick.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't be surprised if Logan. I'm seriously if the
Vision gets involved, even though it's a cage match, you
never know that that's still hasn't stopped people from getting involved.
Logan would be my outside choice.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, it would be interesting.
Speaker 3: For the women's Here's what we got. The lineup his Oscar,
Alexa Bliss, Keana James, where Calvidriguez, Rhea and Tiffany Stratton.
Speaker 2: I think it's going to be Rea Ripley.
Speaker 3: You think so, Yeah?
Speaker 2: They want to get her into a women's main event, Yeah,
I think so.
Speaker 3: Yeah. And another spoil she dropped the tag team titles
to uh Nia Jackson lash legend really stupid? Oh wow
he lost last night?
Speaker 2: Okay, what happened after the uh and again spoiler alert,
But so what happened after the match, because what I
assume where they're going long term is, you know, Ria
Ripley and E O. Sky obviously are very very buddy buddy,
but eventually there is going to be a split. I'm
curious what happens after the match. Did anything happen after
of the match between them?
Speaker 3: I was reading it. I didn't watch it, but I
was reading it at the time, the timetable of the blog. Uh,
nothing exciting happened afterwards. They just celebrated.
Speaker 2: Okay, nothing happened between Io and Rhea.
Speaker 3: Right, gotcha? Okay, so yeah, I kind of see Ria,
But you know what, Tiffany came back from injury. I
think she wants to take back her her rightful spot.
Speaker 2: There could be I could see that too. I could
see them going with Tiffany Stratton.
Speaker 3: I'll go ahead and put my put my dollars on Tiffany.
Speaker 2: It's not going to be Alexa Bliss. It's obviously it's
certainly not going to be a Keana James, Uh, who
else It's not gonna be. It's not gonna be Oscar saying.
Speaker 3: It should be nice though Alexa Bliss has been waiting
a long time too, since she came back.
Speaker 2: True, it's not gonna be her, though, I'd be very surprised.
I think it's going to be either uh, Tiffany Stratton
or Rhea Ripley one one, one of one of those two.
Speaker 3: I'll take Tiffany's my horse, Okay, all right, all right.
One of the two singles matches that is booked, This
one here is for the Women's Intercontinental Championship with Becky
and AJ. First singles match for AJ in over ten years. Yeah,
against the greatest of all time. It's not just me
saying it, it's What's Illustrated saying it's.
Speaker 2: Meg TV scene, the Bleacher Report says it.
Speaker 3: I'm so done with everybody else to say it. Oh
my god, you're annoying as hell.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, Okay, Charles, hold on, we got to
talk about this. I love Becky Lynch's promos. Yeah, oh
my god. I have never been such a fan of
Becky Lynch as I am right now. I love her promos.
I love when she does that whole thing is not
just me saying it's Sports Illustrated says it. I I
Becky Lynch as a heel, and by the way, I
only as a heel as a baby face. I think
she's dull as dirt, but as a heel I love
I could. I wouldn't care if they just let her
go out and talk for twenty minutes. I love everything
she's doing as a heel right now. But it sounds
like you're you're over it. Did Do you want to
know the reason why I hate her promos? Why?
Speaker 3: It's just I cannot stand the stuttering. I cannot say
it is a minor thing. Well, she doesn't stutter, she stammers,
Well you know what I'm talking about. Yeah, yeah, it's
just people sometimes people say stutter when they mean stammer. Yeah, yeah,
a stammer. We'll do that.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah.
Speaker 3: But I can't stand it. I really, It's just it
makes her sound really dumb, oh, really like she doesn't
know what she's talking about. But it's just like, you know,
I kind of listen. AJ since she's came back has
blown her away in every shape and form. She's kept
it funny, comical, and she puts it. Oh man, she
lays down facts. Oh, it's that she's a fantastic, amazing
on the mic. Oh I agree, I agree. So, but
coming back one on one match after ten years, I
don't see it.
Speaker 2: No, no much.
Speaker 3: I'd love AJ to go ahead and just take that
title and make a run. I gotta put Becky on that,
especially especially if Seth Rollins in that crate.
Speaker 2: You think it's Seth Rollins in the crate.
Speaker 3: I don't think it's uh Jericho because Jericho is still
in the contract.
Speaker 2: Well, there's a rumor that it's Dan Housen, which would
make sense, and I hope it is.
Speaker 3: That's another room. I actually, I actually, while I was
waiting to get on the air, I went ahead in
and a hide the question who is in the air.
It came down it's either Chris Jericho, Dan Housen, Seth
Rollins or Bianca Belle Air.
Speaker 2: It's not gonna be honest.
Speaker 3: There is other rumors of a person named Evil from
New Japan.
Speaker 2: Well that would be a letdown. Nobody. Nobody's gonna know
who that is.
Speaker 3: Nobody. Yeah, I think that's way out there. Yeah, so
I think it's gonna be wouln't be these four. I
weighs three now, Dan Housen, seth Rollins, Bianca Belle. I
think they originally wanted Jericho in there, Yeah, but then
they found out it's contracts frozen. Which how do you
not know that when you make these plans and sign
them under contract?
Speaker 2: Yeah, well unless somebody put that out there deliberately to
throw us, because Jericho is a master of that. But
but we don't even know. It might not be a
person in the crate. It might be something an object
in the crate that refers to the person who will
then come out on stage. But if, but if, if
someone literally emerges from the crate, it's probably Dan Housen. Yeah,
and I hope so because that would be awesome because
I've only seen a little bit of Dan Housen's work
in aw but the little bit that I've seen I
loved is fantastic. I hope it's Dan Housen.
Speaker 3: All right, Yeah, I'm kind of looking forward to that.
I haven't seen much of him, so yeah, but yeah,
if he's half as incredible as I heard, ye, then yeah,
it would be nice to see.
Speaker 2: He's a lot of fun. That would be fun.
Speaker 3: Anyway, I got Becky on this.
Speaker 2: Match, Yeah, me too, Me too, say.
Speaker 3: And finally this match, which I kind of think is
just a fluffer match really for seeing Punk Punk and Balor.
I don't see Balo winning and him being the headline
for WrestleMania, although I've gone back and forth and thinking
see him. Punk is always wanted to headline WrestleMania. He
did it last year. He's not as selfish as he
once was before. Right, He's actually come back and helped
out a lot of people. He's willing to go ahead
and take bumps for people. He might do this because
Finn Baller earned it. He may drop the title for him.
So Finn Roman reigns going at it.
Speaker 2: That's a problem. No, okay.
Speaker 3: So I mean they could always and this is what
I said on my on the other show I'm on,
they can always pivot like they pivoted if with WrestleMania
forty when it was supposed to be Rains against the
Rock and everybody chanted Cody. You know, Cody should make
the decision. Blah blah blah. They can always pivot like
they did. Then they can put the title on Finn.
And they got a month and a half before WrestleMania.
They can get him rematch somewhere in there where Finn
drops it again.
Speaker 2: That's a rumor that's out there. I hate that idea,
and I'll tell you why I don't. First of all,
I don't want anything interrupting the build between Roman Reigns
and Seampong because that first face to face promo that
they did was fire. I loved that promo. The other
can so fight, I know. But the other problem but no,
actually yet, not at WrestleMania, because then it's going to
be Roman Reigns versus Finn Balor if Baler's the champion.
The other problem I have is I really don't like
the idea of Balor wins the belt and then see
him punk wins it back sometime between now and WrestleMania.
Then you're hot shotting the title. I really don't like that.
That's something I hated during the Attitude era, and I
don't want to see it now. So I don't like
that idea. I think what happens is Balor loses again,
but he's clearly on his way I think to a
to a full on baby face turn, and I think
he will lose again. I think he will be humble
about it, and that will be his face turn and
he'll he'll go back to being a babyface. That's what
I think is gonna happen.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've definitely seen the writing on the wall there
where Finn is Just listen, I don't need you guys.
You know I want to do this alone. Yeah, let me
do it while on what you know that that's the
sign of a heel a face turn right there? Yeah,
but yeah, I just but see, here's the thing. He's
doing everything that Punk is telling him to do. You
would think doing what he says that would make him champion. Dude,
I don't know, man, It's it's tough. It's the heart
wants to see Finn with the championship, but the timing
right now is just not there yet. So I'm gonna
go ahead and say Punk is gonna win. Yeah, Punk
will win at Mania, and then Finn will get another
chance at after Mania.
Speaker 5: Hm.
Speaker 2: Maybe, But I am. I am intrigued to see where
they're going with Finn Valor. But but I don't think
he wins the I don't think he wins the title tonight.
Uh what what did you think of the promo? But
between uh, punk and Roman reigns.
Speaker 3: Oh, I agree with you. It was spot on fire.
It was it was a volcano erupting on both ends.
I loved it. I just to the point of, you know,
Romans like, I picked you because I hate you. Yep,
And this is gonna be the best line of my
life because I'm just gonna go ahead and beat you,
to give you the beating you deserve, and I take
back my title. Blah blah blah. You know, I'm just
waiting and waiting for the tribal chief to have a
tribe again.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
Speaker 3: He hasn't had one yet.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think that's kind of.
Speaker 3: I think somewhere along the line, I think it does
come to where we finally get all the Samoans in line.
I think we get fought too, we get the usos.
I don't see Solo coming back on there. I think
he's got his MFTs, which I will. I will go
ahead and tell you I like Solo as that Gangsters
I do.
Speaker 2: Two Jenny's commented on that too, that he's really grown
in the role. I have a problem. I have a
problem though, with the MFT gimmick. I hate the face paint.
It makes them look No, it makes them look like juggalos.
This isn't this isn't supposed to be ICP. It's supposed
to be MFT. It looks ridiculous on them, especially on Tomatonga.
And I'll tell you why, because the great thing about
Tomatonga is he's got a very expressive face, and why
would you want to hide it under all that makeup?
So much of what like, so much of what his
character is is you know, he's got that weird sound
that he makes, but also just his facial expressions that
that's what makes him compelling as Tomatonga. And then you
slap all that makeup on him and he covers his
face and it looks I know. And I did read
online that I guess that he and Tongaaloa they wore
the war paint when they were the Gorillas of Destiny
in Japan. I just I just think it looks awful.
I think they look ridiculous. I think it's they look
like juggalos. And again, no disrespect to the juggalos. I
played in a band once where we actually had some
jugglers who were into us. So whatever I'm laughing not
has mean disagreeing.
Speaker 3: I actually agree with you on that. But it's it's
it's given them the identity it really is. You know,
granted call them, you know, they look like jugglers whatever
the case. Maybe juggles is still pretty. They're pretty bad
Like that isn't good? Okay, I was gonna use you know,
I was gonna use bad a, but you know we're
an FM.
Speaker 2: So you can say badass. That's not a problem.
Speaker 3: Badass. They're badasses. So that the paint, I don't think, like,
you know, lowers their standard. I think it's just it
is a look that they're going for.
Speaker 2: It's so bad. I think it looks so silly, like
cringe when I see It's like, what are you guys doing?
Speaker 3: They need they need I like this whole thing that
they're doing against with the Wyat Sixes, there needs to
be more. There needs to be more context in that
and to some point where hopefully there's still time that
there is like a five on five family versus family match. Wait,
I'm kind of hoping for that.
Speaker 2: They haven't done that already.
Speaker 3: No, they've done Tag Team champ because that the not
the U. The Sixers are still Tag Team Champions use
so many times they've defended that how many like one.
It's like, come on, man, it's like nobody's really doing
anything about these tag team titles. That's the that's the
one downfall I have with with WW. Right now, Jake
Carghill has defended the title twice once twice something like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, where is she?
Speaker 3: Then she's over here talking about how she is the
b now in w W.
Speaker 2: I love her promos though, I love her. I love
her as a heel. She's fantastic as a heel. I
love her.
Speaker 3: But the point is fight. Yeah, you need to fight.
Speaker 2: That's okay. Though she's a heel. Heels are supposed to
be a little bit cowardly, you know, to alter little bit.
Speaker 3: She is complete. Yeah, she's complete.
Speaker 2: Talk Yeah. Loving her character though, and she she's believable too,
Like when she delivers that line that we can't say
on the air, she's like, you believe it, right, Like
she's so good. She is so good.
Speaker 3: Yeah, promo wise, she's great. I keep hearing that she's
really green. I mean I see her work. She's not
that green.
Speaker 2: No, I think she gets a lot of unfair criticism.
I've said I've said this from the beginning. I think
she's better in the ring than she gets credit for.
And I will also say she's improved a lot I had. Yeah,
and she doesn't get the credit for it though people
online just crap all over. I think she's I think
she's much better than she gets credit for.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I agree, she she's she's cleaned up. Listen,
I've seen her in some of these matches before. Oh yeah,
I've seen botches all over the place. Sure, I see
just like things like, oh man, is she gonna get
up after that?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 3: But yeah, it's and again, like we had mentioned before,
fakeer real, this is real, It is calculated, real, you
are trained to take these bumps in a certain way.
And with Jade doing the stuff she was doing when
she first got called up, which is why you saw
her sporadically, you know why, because her behind was down
there in the performance center trying to work on her craft, right,
you know, I could see why AW got rid of her.
I mean, with the little the little integrity they have
over there. A w Yeah, they need they need to
go ahead and just say all right, we can't have
you injuring anybody else, Go get out of here, be gone.
So but no, they they w W sees that the
the talent there, and you know, they've worked with her,
giving her chance after chance, and they saw something. That's
why she was made Queen of their Right. That's why
she's currently a champion.
Speaker 2: Right. Oh, one other thing we had to wrap up soon.
But just as we're talking about Jade Cargill and her
being better than what she gets credit for, what do
you think about Chelsea Green Because there's also been some
controversy And again, I know you haven't watched the new
season of Unreal, but one of the things that's come up,
I'm sure you've seen the chatter about this online. You know,
Michael Hayes kind of makes some comments in there indicating
that Chelsea Green is you know, upper mid card, but
that's kind of her ceiling. But she's, you know, she's
great at what she does. But but there's a lot
of people who are saying, no, she should be in
main events, like she's that good, she's that entertaining, and
I tend to agree with that. I'm curious what you
think because it seems to me everything she's ever been
given to do, Chelsea Green, she knocks it out of
the park. I mean, she's so good and She's another
example too of a heel. She's supposed to be a heel,
but obviously the fans love her because she's so talented,
and she's so good at everything she does, and she's
so likable and funny. So I think she's I think
she should be. I think she deserves a bigger push
than she gets. What do you think There's.
Speaker 3: A lot of people we could give pushes too that
we want, right, we all thinking I should get a
bigger push. You know Chelsea Green, she You're right. She
goes ahead and with what she has been given as
the quote unquote you know, president in in.
Speaker 2: Her in her, the secret, hervist, the hervest.
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, I'm like, I'm thinking that's such a stupid name.
But then it's like, you know what she's running with it,
let's go ahead, and I get it.
Speaker 2: I get it. Yeah, it's fun and she's a heel,
so it can be stupid.
Speaker 3: But here's the thing. I think she's been put into
a position of she's on an island where she's goofy,
and it's like, you know, you can't take a main
event or that's goofy. That's the problem with that is,
you know, to to kind of retrospect on everything you take.
You take like the Olsen Twins, there were child actresses. Yeah,
you can't seriously as an adult actresses anymore, even though
they're not coming back, but still you can't take them seriously. Yeah,
they're always gonna be labeled child actresses. So are you
gonna cast them in a leading role?
Speaker 6: No?
Speaker 3: Chelsea Green is put into this category unfortunately, that she
is a goofy, goofy character.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think with a little bit of creativity, though,
I think they could.
Speaker 3: She needs yes, and she needs to basically have her
character redone. She can't go ahead with the Harvest. She
would have to be another another version of Chelsea Green
to go ahead and make any type of serious move.
Speaker 2: I don't think it's so much another version as just
take her, just evolve her in a way, maybe make
her a little bit more serious, maybe maybe do a
babyface turn.
Speaker 3: But but if you if you would go ahead and
be creative to Chelsea Green, how would you go ahead
and pivot that baby face? I don't think would be enough. Yeah,
but I.
Speaker 2: Think I think they can get there with her, because
I mean, it'd be worth taking the risk, because, like
I said, everything they've ever given her to do, she succeeds. Yeah,
you know, I kind of I kind of think of
her the way I used to think of Live Morgan,
because for a long time, I would think, why isn't
Live Morgan in main events? She's got everything, she is
so good. I was saying this a couple of years
ago and then but fortunately in the case of Live Morgan,
they did finally figure it out, and now she's a
main eventor and she's incredible, But she's she's kind of
in that same category in my mind where I used
to think Live Morgan she's perpetually stuck in the mid card.
But everything they've ever given her to do, she succeeds.
She's so good, She's good at everything, promos or in
rey work, everything she does is so good. Why isn't
she in main events? But she did get there. They
got there with.
Speaker 3: Her, and she probably went ahead and voiced her opinion
and Chelsea Green me not you voiced her opinion as
much as she should.
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe who knows.
Speaker 3: So probably it's a lot of back at politics type stuff.
That's probably where you're hearing all this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, Charles, we are rapidly approaching the top of
the hour, we got to go. But I appreciate you
so much. It's always wonderful to speak with you. Great
to have you on the show. And I know we
do have you booked for another appearance coming up, but
Elimination Chamber Mania.
Speaker 3: What so Mania coming up? In a boy, I'm gonna
come on on Saturday and we'll talk both nights.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, No, I can't wait and tell us too before
we go. So you've got, of course the Charles Richardson Show,
and you do a wrestling podcast, so go ahead and
tell us about this.
Speaker 3: So my current show, the Charles Richardson showed because of
personal things I've had going on, has been on hiatus.
When we return, we're going to be on Wednesday's eight
to ten on Facebook. Okay, So just to go ahead
and look us up on Facebook, the Charles Richardson Show,
and also the Charles richardsonow on YouTube. And the wrestling
podcast that we have have again no no, no trying
affiliation with Tough Bumps. It's a little bit different of
a show that we do. It is called the Josh
Zodiac Podcast. Josh Sodiac is the one that hosts I
am co hosting. Okay, bud, you can go ahead and
find them on all social media platforms. The Josh Zodiac Podcast.
Speaker 2: Very good, very good, and while we're at it too,
I will mention tough bumps. Of course, Eric and I
will be on. Eric Pilcher and I and Austin Hicks
usually joins us most weeks as well. We'll be on
tomorrow night, Sunday night, I think at seven pm, no,
I'm sorry, six pm Eastern. It changes every week, but
you can find that of course on Facebook and YouTube
and subscribe, like and subscribe and subscribe on your podcast
platform of choice, as you should with this show as well,
because once we're off the air here, this goes up
into the podcast dost sphere, and of course you can
find it on the WM and H website and my
website Matt Connorton dot com. But Charles, again, thank you
so much, my friend. Always great to talk to you
and look forward to the next time.
Speaker 3: Thank you very much. Have a good one, all right, brother, you.
Speaker 2: Got to take care all right. That is Charles Richardson
from The Charles Richardson Show and the Zach oh sorry,
the Josh Zodiac Podcast. Sometimes in my mind I create
amalgams of words, the Josh Zodiac I almost said the
Jodiac or something podcast for more wrestling content, and thank
you everybody who joined us today. Of course we had
Peter the photographer with us in the first hour. I'm
actually going to end the show today with We're gonna
play another spin of the Ballad of twenty six, such
a great song, and he performed live for us, just incredible.
And of course in the second hour we had Elijah
Jenkins from the band Moving On all the way from
Liverpool joining us. I've always loved talking to him. We've
spin on before and he's just incredible. And of course
our friend Charles Richardson. So if you did miss any
part of today's show, it will be up in just
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us for now. We will talk with y'all a little
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