WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.799 --> 00:00:09.160 Well, whiskey coming fame my pain. Honey? All right, oh whiskey? 2 00:00:10.000 --> 00:00:12.400 Why think alone when you can drink it all in 3 00:00:12.519 --> 00:00:17.440 with Ricochet's three Whiskey Happy Hour. Join your bartenders, Steve Hayward, 4 00:00:17.640 --> 00:00:25.679 John You and the International Woman of Mystery Lucretia. Where 5 00:00:25.800 --> 00:00:27.239 the lap lapp? And David? 6 00:00:27.320 --> 00:00:30.120 Ain't you easy on the should taps? 7 00:00:30.120 --> 00:00:33.320 You gotta give me? And let that whiskey flo It's 8 00:00:33.359 --> 00:00:36.520 the three Whiskey Grumpy Hour. No, that's not it. Let's 9 00:00:36.520 --> 00:00:40.159 start again. It's the three It's the three Grumpy Whiskey Hour. 10 00:00:40.320 --> 00:00:42.359 Oh wait, hold on, that's not right either. Let me 11 00:00:42.439 --> 00:00:44.520 get an extra Snickers bar listeners and then we'll be 12 00:00:44.560 --> 00:00:48.840 ready to go. So okay, I've had my phill Snickers. 13 00:00:49.039 --> 00:00:52.159 It's the three Whiskey Happy Hour. U recording on a 14 00:00:52.200 --> 00:00:54.320 Saturday morning because that's the only time we could find. 15 00:00:54.359 --> 00:00:56.119 So we're not live like we would like to be. 16 00:00:56.880 --> 00:00:59.280 But here we are. I'm having coffee instead of whiskey. 17 00:00:59.719 --> 00:01:06.280 Are you guys having coffee? Tea? Anything? Fun? Irish? Whiskey? Coffee? 18 00:01:06.400 --> 00:01:06.959 Twelve mug? 19 00:01:07.200 --> 00:01:08.560 You're eighteen twelve mug? Right? 20 00:01:08.840 --> 00:01:13.760 What happened in eighteen twelve? Pardon what happened in eighteen twelve. 21 00:01:13.799 --> 00:01:17.239 That's on your mug. There was this little war John 22 00:01:17.799 --> 00:01:21.040 really Madison's Folly. It was called Madison's Folly. 23 00:01:20.879 --> 00:01:23.560 Remember, I say, but I actually think that it's the 24 00:01:24.239 --> 00:01:29.560 the Francis Scott Key over Fort what what's its name? 25 00:01:30.519 --> 00:01:33.560 What fort? Was it McHenry? Wasn't it? 26 00:01:34.519 --> 00:01:36.480 Was it Fort McHenry? Anyways in Baltimore. 27 00:01:36.680 --> 00:01:41.879 Yeah, I have to say I'm embarrassed to say I'm 28 00:01:41.920 --> 00:01:45.879 drinking out of my Sheets mug, which is for those 29 00:01:45.920 --> 00:01:48.159 of you who, like you two, know nothing of the 30 00:01:48.200 --> 00:01:51.480 East Coast. Sheets and wah Wah are in a contest 31 00:01:51.560 --> 00:01:55.760 for world domination. So Sheets is from Pittsburgh and Ohio area, 32 00:01:55.959 --> 00:01:59.280 and wah Wah is Philadelphia. So every now and then 33 00:01:59.359 --> 00:02:01.920 the Amish Country is right in the middle. So when 34 00:02:01.920 --> 00:02:03.719 you go the Amish Country, you have Sheets and Wawa 35 00:02:03.840 --> 00:02:05.640 next to each other. So I have mugs from both. 36 00:02:05.959 --> 00:02:09.000 Aha. Well, all right, I'm drinking out of an Age 37 00:02:09.039 --> 00:02:11.800 of Reagan coffee mug from the Reagan Library. It's not 38 00:02:12.000 --> 00:02:14.319 name for my win I know, I win Well, it's 39 00:02:14.360 --> 00:02:16.599 not named for my book exactly, although they decided to 40 00:02:16.719 --> 00:02:19.319 use that title for the conference. The Academic Conference they 41 00:02:19.360 --> 00:02:21.599 do every other year, so they always have to invite 42 00:02:21.639 --> 00:02:24.680 me since they're using the title. Okay, but while we're 43 00:02:24.719 --> 00:02:28.159 talking about food and comestibles, two things. One is I 44 00:02:28.199 --> 00:02:32.039 think I sent you guys that poll from Pew about 45 00:02:32.120 --> 00:02:35.159 what people think is immoral, and I was pleased. I 46 00:02:35.199 --> 00:02:36.919 think it's a stupid pole but never bind why. But 47 00:02:36.960 --> 00:02:40.000 I was pleased to see that only four percent of 48 00:02:40.080 --> 00:02:43.719 Americans think eating meat is immoral. And yet why does 49 00:02:43.759 --> 00:02:46.680 it seem that fifty percent of America's gone vegan? Because 50 00:02:46.759 --> 00:02:48.599 it's the hel from the corners or something, right? 51 00:02:49.680 --> 00:02:52.840 Anyway, I just think they're louder Steve, I don't think. 52 00:02:53.599 --> 00:02:58.400 And now they have their their soy boy champion in Texas. 53 00:02:59.319 --> 00:03:02.240 Oh, I'll come back to him very briefly in a moment. 54 00:03:03.240 --> 00:03:06.840 I do have an interesting piece of McDonald's trivia for you, John, 55 00:03:06.879 --> 00:03:09.080 and it has to do with the legendary fact checking 56 00:03:09.120 --> 00:03:11.800 of the New Yorker magazine. If you know in journalism, 57 00:03:11.879 --> 00:03:15.680 the New Yorker is legendary. Are used to be for 58 00:03:15.759 --> 00:03:17.879 their fact checking, and you know they would find any 59 00:03:17.919 --> 00:03:20.400 little mistake in the process. And so I was reading 60 00:03:20.439 --> 00:03:23.120 this in John mcfee's memoir of All the writing he 61 00:03:23.199 --> 00:03:25.960 did for New Yorker, and he said one time he 62 00:03:26.000 --> 00:03:27.520 had an article that went in said there are two 63 00:03:27.639 --> 00:03:29.840 Illinois rivers, one in Illinois and the other one in 64 00:03:29.960 --> 00:03:33.120 Arkansas and Colorado, And of course the fact checking department 65 00:03:33.159 --> 00:03:36.879 comes back and says, oh, actually, there's like five of them. 66 00:03:36.919 --> 00:03:39.400 There's one in Oregon, there's one in a couple other places. 67 00:03:39.439 --> 00:03:43.039 And so you know they're like that. You know, nothing 68 00:03:43.120 --> 00:03:47.960 gets by their fact checking. Well, guess what. They published 69 00:03:48.199 --> 00:03:50.159 a short story in two thousand and five where the 70 00:03:50.280 --> 00:03:54.560 characters said they bought chicken mcdugad's chicken McNuggets at McDonald's 71 00:03:54.800 --> 00:03:59.439 on a visit in nineteen seventy nine, and exactly, well, 72 00:03:59.479 --> 00:04:02.080 the readers. It turned out that they weren't introduced till 73 00:04:02.120 --> 00:04:07.479 nineteen eighty three. Everybody knows that, well, anybody but the 74 00:04:07.560 --> 00:04:09.879 New Yorker fact checking department, which I thought was kind 75 00:04:09.919 --> 00:04:12.599 of funny. And as you can imagine, New Yorker readers 76 00:04:12.800 --> 00:04:15.400 loved pounds in any factual mistake they might make in there. 77 00:04:16.360 --> 00:04:18.639 I remember as a kid when they came out and 78 00:04:18.680 --> 00:04:21.360 I of course rushed to get them and we were all, 79 00:04:21.399 --> 00:04:22.959 I mean, and my friends are trying to figure out 80 00:04:23.000 --> 00:04:25.160 like where what is this made of? Like where did 81 00:04:25.240 --> 00:04:28.040 it come from? How did they make this? Like where 82 00:04:28.079 --> 00:04:28.800 did the bones go? 83 00:04:31.160 --> 00:04:31.279 Right? 84 00:04:31.560 --> 00:04:33.560 Questions that still remain unanswered. 85 00:04:34.120 --> 00:04:36.839 Right. Well, Jay Leno used to have a great routine 86 00:04:36.839 --> 00:04:39.040 about the chicken McNugget back in the eighties, cause it's all, 87 00:04:39.079 --> 00:04:41.160 you know, pressed and formed chicken. And he says, you 88 00:04:41.160 --> 00:04:42.360 could put a bunch of these in front of a 89 00:04:42.439 --> 00:04:44.120 chicken and they'd look down and say, I see nothing 90 00:04:44.160 --> 00:04:47.519 here that defends me because they're fair, right, Or you 91 00:04:47.560 --> 00:04:49.439 could dig it up in five hundred years and say, oh, 92 00:04:49.519 --> 00:04:52.040 look a chicken McNugget and probably still be edible. Right. 93 00:04:52.480 --> 00:04:55.319 But the other other statistic I saw that bears on 94 00:04:55.399 --> 00:04:59.079 your four percent is I saw a report that steakhouses 95 00:04:59.120 --> 00:05:01.920 are killing it. Yeah, absolutely killing it. Like that's the 96 00:05:02.000 --> 00:05:05.920 most popular segment in the restaurant business right. 97 00:05:05.879 --> 00:05:07.759 Now, even with the high price of beef. 98 00:05:08.040 --> 00:05:10.639 It's because of the high price of beef, because people 99 00:05:10.720 --> 00:05:14.319 don't want to spend you know, nineteen dollars a pound 100 00:05:14.399 --> 00:05:16.600 on a nice ribbi and then take it home and 101 00:05:16.720 --> 00:05:19.639 ruin it. Oh okay, that's the reason. 102 00:05:20.120 --> 00:05:21.839 That's a good theory. I like that one. 103 00:05:22.279 --> 00:05:26.279 But meanwhile, I'm I'm sorry. Told it's not a theory. 104 00:05:26.279 --> 00:05:27.360 I'm told that's the reason. 105 00:05:27.519 --> 00:05:32.560 Could be, Yeah, it makes sense. Meanwhile, we have Causus 106 00:05:32.639 --> 00:05:36.439 belly to raise the Jolly Roger. So I've recently been 107 00:05:36.519 --> 00:05:39.040 listening now and then to a brand new podcast it's 108 00:05:39.079 --> 00:05:41.759 just been going three four months that's a little bit 109 00:05:41.879 --> 00:05:44.079 like ours because it's two dudes and a chick. You 110 00:05:44.160 --> 00:05:46.079 know how many podcasts are you know? Two dudes and 111 00:05:46.120 --> 00:05:46.839 a chick like ours? 112 00:05:46.959 --> 00:05:48.680 And it's called Sounds. 113 00:05:49.439 --> 00:05:52.439 I don't know, but well, but it's about politics, although 114 00:05:52.639 --> 00:05:56.199 they're not political philosophers or economists. Mostly it's it's it's 115 00:05:56.199 --> 00:05:58.319 called Central Air because they think they're centrist. But I'm 116 00:05:58.319 --> 00:06:01.600 sure Lucasia would say they're all radical, progressive soft headedness, 117 00:06:01.639 --> 00:06:05.319 although they do oppose Tallerico in Texas and thought he's 118 00:06:05.360 --> 00:06:07.959 a terrible nominee, not because they favored what's your name, 119 00:06:08.040 --> 00:06:10.120 but because they think they were both hopeless and anyway, 120 00:06:11.160 --> 00:06:15.120 it's Josh Barrow, whose father is Robert Barrow, the Harvard 121 00:06:15.120 --> 00:06:17.240 economist John who you may know of. He is actually 122 00:06:17.279 --> 00:06:20.199 pretty good. And then Megan mccardal at the Washington Post 123 00:06:20.240 --> 00:06:23.040 who writes his really good economic articles, and then the 124 00:06:23.120 --> 00:06:25.240 third person is why I would actually kind of like. 125 00:06:25.319 --> 00:06:28.439 It's Ben Dreyfus, who actually is pretty far out there. 126 00:06:28.519 --> 00:06:30.680 He used to work at Mother Jones and his father 127 00:06:30.839 --> 00:06:33.800 is the actor Richard Dreyfus, and he's actually pretty funny. 128 00:06:34.319 --> 00:06:37.120 But his substack is called is to you the sense 129 00:06:37.160 --> 00:06:39.319 of these guys and why you can actually listen to them? 130 00:06:40.000 --> 00:06:43.399 His substack is called calm down, Well, calm down about what? 131 00:06:44.000 --> 00:06:47.480 Calm down about Trump? He says, you know, he's anti 132 00:06:47.600 --> 00:06:50.319 Trump derangement syndrome, even though he doesn't like Trump, which 133 00:06:50.360 --> 00:06:52.319 it kind of marks him out as unusual because you're 134 00:06:52.319 --> 00:06:54.560 supposed to be all in on hating Trump. And so 135 00:06:54.680 --> 00:06:57.399 he says, I don't care about the ballroom. I don't 136 00:06:57.439 --> 00:06:59.959 care about the Kennedy Center. People are sort of dumb. 137 00:07:02.160 --> 00:07:04.920 That people are dumb to get worked up about all 138 00:07:04.959 --> 00:07:07.879 these things. But here's the problem. The other day, I'm 139 00:07:07.920 --> 00:07:11.920 listening and they went off for twenty minutes about McDonald's 140 00:07:11.920 --> 00:07:14.839 and the new big Archie Burger. Here's a quick sample 141 00:07:14.920 --> 00:07:24.160 of what I mean. This is Central Air. You wrote 142 00:07:24.160 --> 00:07:27.160 about McDonald's this week because of the video. I wrote 143 00:07:27.199 --> 00:07:32.000 an article on McDonald's this week and the number of commenters, yeah, 144 00:07:32.279 --> 00:07:36.240 who were like, I would never eat at McDonald's. It's like, 145 00:07:37.160 --> 00:07:41.000 you know, sometimes I like a big mac and I 146 00:07:41.040 --> 00:07:45.720 thought they can't do that. That's our territory. Yeah. But 147 00:07:45.800 --> 00:07:48.759 Megan mccarnald made a really interesting point. This was you know, 148 00:07:48.800 --> 00:07:52.759 if you remember the controversy, the head of McDonald's, crisins Pinski, 149 00:07:52.879 --> 00:07:55.600 whatever his name is, took this dainty little bite out 150 00:07:55.600 --> 00:07:59.000 of the burger and got ruthlessly mocked on social media 151 00:07:59.120 --> 00:08:01.600 and the other burger come Breeze actually their own videos 152 00:08:01.680 --> 00:08:04.720 mocking him. Megan makes a simple point, what did that 153 00:08:04.920 --> 00:08:07.879 just do? It made much bigger news that McDonald's has 154 00:08:07.879 --> 00:08:10.199 a new burger, and then they went and talked about 155 00:08:10.199 --> 00:08:13.000 the burger salmon with mixed reviews. You've had one, right, John, 156 00:08:13.079 --> 00:08:14.920 I think, yes. 157 00:08:15.000 --> 00:08:17.120 I didn't think it was so bad. But look, this 158 00:08:18.079 --> 00:08:21.240 just tells us more about the NEPO baby power structure. 159 00:08:22.360 --> 00:08:25.759 You just explained. These people are hosts who are distinguished 160 00:08:25.879 --> 00:08:29.120 solely by having the blood of more famous parents, and 161 00:08:29.279 --> 00:08:32.840 so they were coddled in life. They weren't raised on McDonald's. 162 00:08:32.960 --> 00:08:35.679 They've probably been in McDonald's maybe five times their whole 163 00:08:35.720 --> 00:08:39.159 lives I don't trust their taste. Right, they're one of 164 00:08:39.200 --> 00:08:42.240 those four percent who probably think eating meat is immoral. 165 00:08:42.279 --> 00:08:44.679 And I bet all of those people on that podcast 166 00:08:44.919 --> 00:08:47.759 have gone through various phases of not eating this, not 167 00:08:47.919 --> 00:08:52.360 eating that, denying the omnivivorous nature of mankind. Right, you 168 00:08:52.399 --> 00:08:54.960 guys should like that. It's human nature to be omnivorous. 169 00:08:56.200 --> 00:08:58.159 Well, you know what, John, they wouldn't have disappointed you 170 00:08:58.240 --> 00:09:01.519 if you listened through, because they talked about other chains 171 00:09:01.559 --> 00:09:04.039 like five guys and in and out. But then they 172 00:09:04.120 --> 00:09:06.919 did live up to your stereotype, which is they said, 173 00:09:06.960 --> 00:09:09.159 but you know, burgers really aren't very good for you, 174 00:09:09.320 --> 00:09:12.840 and you shouldn't have Oh exactly, I said, No, that's 175 00:09:12.879 --> 00:09:13.559 where they lost. 176 00:09:13.440 --> 00:09:14.960 It, right, hamburgers aren't good for you. 177 00:09:15.240 --> 00:09:17.080 Come on, you know it should be a rare treat. 178 00:09:17.159 --> 00:09:18.320 I thought, No, you're all wrong. 179 00:09:18.519 --> 00:09:22.240 And anyway, instead of their lightly grilled cucumber sandwiches they 180 00:09:22.279 --> 00:09:27.240 probably have at high tea, I would arm wrestle either 181 00:09:27.279 --> 00:09:29.120 of them after they had one of their will to 182 00:09:29.240 --> 00:09:36.639 desparegas burgers. All right, sorryn but Lucretia was going to 183 00:09:37.240 --> 00:09:40.519 comment and she's you know, she's in a Hamburger testosterone 184 00:09:40.519 --> 00:09:45.320 Field household over there with mister Lucretia and Lucretia Junior. 185 00:09:46.120 --> 00:09:48.639 I mean that sounds like a great idea for a 186 00:09:48.720 --> 00:09:53.639 burger Lucretia or the Lucretia Jr. 187 00:09:54.480 --> 00:09:57.440 Yeah, So nobody in my house eats, except for me 188 00:09:57.600 --> 00:10:01.639 on occasion, eats anything but meat as a as a 189 00:10:01.759 --> 00:10:06.519 health as a matter of health, it's yeah, I can't 190 00:10:06.519 --> 00:10:11.679 even imagine that people think that somehow taking some a 191 00:10:11.759 --> 00:10:15.000 bunch of products and processing them to the hilt and 192 00:10:15.559 --> 00:10:18.639 making soy the central thing and then eating that, actually 193 00:10:18.799 --> 00:10:21.960 eating that. It's just amazing to me. The only thing 194 00:10:22.000 --> 00:10:24.080 I'll touch with soy and it is soy sauce because 195 00:10:24.080 --> 00:10:26.759 it's fermented. So yeah. 196 00:10:26.799 --> 00:10:29.440 Can I tell a story about how I took the 197 00:10:29.639 --> 00:10:33.559 Lucretia family to dinner in San Francisco once and the 198 00:10:33.720 --> 00:10:36.279 Tadditch Grille, which is kind of like a steak has 199 00:10:36.320 --> 00:10:39.399 a great place, and I have to say, uh, there 200 00:10:39.399 --> 00:10:42.240 were some large pieces of meat produced brought to the 201 00:10:42.279 --> 00:10:44.639 mill of the table, and you know those like African 202 00:10:44.720 --> 00:10:47.600 safar shows where like the cow goes down and then 203 00:10:47.639 --> 00:10:50.399 the hyena pack comes in and then you just see 204 00:10:50.399 --> 00:10:53.039 the movement of the animals and pieces of fly out, 205 00:10:53.120 --> 00:10:55.360 but you don't see anymore of the piece. 206 00:10:57.039 --> 00:10:59.279 I'm embarrassed that you would say that, because I do, 207 00:11:00.039 --> 00:11:03.360 at least you, Lucretia Junior, learned better manners than that. 208 00:11:06.159 --> 00:11:07.559 I haven't been here in a long time. They still 209 00:11:07.600 --> 00:11:10.039 serve the lamb shoulder. Isn't it one of their specialties? Oh? 210 00:11:10.559 --> 00:11:13.279 Yes, Actually, I mean the thing they love. They actually 211 00:11:13.360 --> 00:11:15.360 serve corned beef hash for dinner. 212 00:11:15.200 --> 00:11:19.559 With past good. That's what I had. All right, all right, 213 00:11:19.919 --> 00:11:22.720 let's take a quick break from one of our sponsors 214 00:11:22.759 --> 00:11:24.960 and then we'll come back and get into some serious topics. 215 00:11:31.759 --> 00:11:33.559 All right, John, you're up first today in our free 216 00:11:33.600 --> 00:11:35.919 for all round robin format, and I think you want 217 00:11:35.919 --> 00:11:38.159 to talk about it. Ron, I'll just say quickly, yes, 218 00:11:38.320 --> 00:11:40.759 set you up that I finally figured out this week 219 00:11:41.639 --> 00:11:43.559 how you can tell that we're winning you know, fog 220 00:11:43.600 --> 00:11:45.759 of war. We don't know the details, but the light 221 00:11:45.799 --> 00:11:47.399 bulb went on and said, oh, I know why we're 222 00:11:47.399 --> 00:11:49.480 winning this war, and we're winning it big because the 223 00:11:49.600 --> 00:11:52.360 media is telling us it's a quagmire. And I mean, 224 00:11:52.399 --> 00:11:54.399 you go back to what they did in Vietnam, reported 225 00:11:54.440 --> 00:11:57.120 everything completely backwards, like the tet offensive and so forth, 226 00:11:58.039 --> 00:12:00.440 and I just thought, oh, I don't need to chase 227 00:12:00.480 --> 00:12:03.080 after details of the media says it's quagmart means we're winning, 228 00:12:03.399 --> 00:12:04.440 So over to you. 229 00:12:05.960 --> 00:12:08.720 Well, I thought I would kick off this topic with 230 00:12:08.879 --> 00:12:13.840 the resignation of Joe Kent, who was I guess the 231 00:12:13.960 --> 00:12:19.039 deputy to Tulsa Gabbard, who's the National Intelligence Director, and 232 00:12:19.120 --> 00:12:22.879 it's thought to be along with jd Vance, of center 233 00:12:23.159 --> 00:12:25.799 of the non interventionist wing, if you want to call 234 00:12:26.039 --> 00:12:32.080 that in the administration. And one he made two points, 235 00:12:32.320 --> 00:12:34.840 both of which I think are wrong but also the 236 00:12:34.919 --> 00:12:38.960 wrong standard. He said first that Iran raised no imminent 237 00:12:39.080 --> 00:12:41.679 threat to the United States and so he had to resign. 238 00:12:42.759 --> 00:12:45.559 And then he said that the United States have been 239 00:12:47.480 --> 00:12:49.559 I don't know, enticed into war. Would that be the 240 00:12:49.639 --> 00:12:54.639 right word by Israel and its American lobbyists. So I 241 00:12:54.720 --> 00:13:01.720 think raising this anti semitic, raising the anti Semitic flag him, 242 00:13:01.759 --> 00:13:06.159 I think making his true nature clear. I would actually 243 00:13:06.559 --> 00:13:08.759 not have questioned his motives if he had just left 244 00:13:08.799 --> 00:13:10.799 it at I don't think Iran's an imminent threat, and 245 00:13:10.840 --> 00:13:12.519 I'm happy to have a debate about it. But then 246 00:13:12.600 --> 00:13:17.480 to say, and it's the Jews, the It's like, what 247 00:13:17.759 --> 00:13:20.960 is what these people? I mean, every time they say something, 248 00:13:21.000 --> 00:13:23.600 they just attached and it's the Jews right afterwards to 249 00:13:24.000 --> 00:13:28.120 every problem in the United States. But it did raise 250 00:13:29.000 --> 00:13:31.759 questions too. We're talking about I think, one is how's 251 00:13:31.799 --> 00:13:33.799 the war going? And then two what does this mean 252 00:13:33.919 --> 00:13:37.200 for you know, the Trump the Trump administration and the 253 00:13:37.519 --> 00:13:40.919 MAGA movement. Now, I think as exactly as you said, Steve, 254 00:13:41.120 --> 00:13:43.519 the more the media makes it seem like the war 255 00:13:43.639 --> 00:13:45.200 is lost. Right if you read the headlines of the 256 00:13:45.200 --> 00:13:47.480 New York Times, you think the war has been lost. 257 00:13:47.720 --> 00:13:50.519 Even the Wall Street Journal news page has a story 258 00:13:50.639 --> 00:13:53.600 today saying Iran may be winning and they might be, 259 00:13:54.080 --> 00:13:56.240 you know, ropidoping US, and then at the end of 260 00:13:56.279 --> 00:13:59.720 the war they'll control the straight Offoe moves. You know, 261 00:13:59.759 --> 00:14:02.919 we have an argument about whether the strategic choice to 262 00:14:03.000 --> 00:14:06.080 attack Iran is the proper one. I tend to think 263 00:14:06.120 --> 00:14:08.759 it is. But at the level of operations and tactics, 264 00:14:08.799 --> 00:14:10.639 we are kicking the hell out of Iran. I mean, 265 00:14:10.720 --> 00:14:13.720 how much better could it go. We have totally wiped 266 00:14:13.759 --> 00:14:16.639 out their top leadership. The president hasn't been you know, 267 00:14:16.720 --> 00:14:19.639 the president of Iran hasn't been seen, not the president, 268 00:14:19.840 --> 00:14:21.559 although he hasn't been seen either, I think. But the 269 00:14:22.360 --> 00:14:26.600 you know, the Ayatola sign, yeah, actually runs Iran has 270 00:14:26.679 --> 00:14:30.320 not been seen in public. There was a very I 271 00:14:30.320 --> 00:14:35.120 don't know, kind of to me comic example where the IRGC, 272 00:14:35.360 --> 00:14:39.120 the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps, which is their real religious 273 00:14:39.159 --> 00:14:43.440 military and really runs the country, came out with a 274 00:14:43.519 --> 00:14:47.720 press release saying the United States isn't winning, Israel's not winning, 275 00:14:47.720 --> 00:14:50.000 We're still building lots of missiles. And then there was 276 00:14:50.039 --> 00:14:52.759 a press release later just later that day saying the 277 00:14:52.840 --> 00:14:57.120 spokesman has been killed by a strike. So it gives 278 00:14:57.120 --> 00:15:00.360 you examples. But you know, the the Iranian name at 279 00:15:00.360 --> 00:15:02.440 the bottom of the ocean, the Iranian Air Force is 280 00:15:02.480 --> 00:15:05.559 nowhere to be seen. You know, the missiles attacks and 281 00:15:05.639 --> 00:15:08.320 drove attacks are way way down to ninety percent down. 282 00:15:09.000 --> 00:15:11.360 And then the heart, just the strait of Hormuza just 283 00:15:11.360 --> 00:15:14.039 strikes me is the hardest problem, because two guys with 284 00:15:14.120 --> 00:15:17.159 a drone can start shooting at tankers in that very 285 00:15:17.360 --> 00:15:21.399 twenty mile isthmus. But that's a good problem to have, 286 00:15:21.639 --> 00:15:25.360 is that If that's the challenge facing us now, I 287 00:15:25.440 --> 00:15:28.000 think that means we've pretty much won the war. From 288 00:15:28.039 --> 00:15:31.559 a military sense, this mal political issue. And then the 289 00:15:31.720 --> 00:15:33.679 last point, I think this idea of that Joe, the 290 00:15:33.799 --> 00:15:34.720 Jews drove us into it. 291 00:15:34.759 --> 00:15:35.600 It is just crazy. 292 00:15:35.759 --> 00:15:39.240 I mean, I think that's just crazy. I really worry 293 00:15:39.360 --> 00:15:42.720 about the right wing of the Republican Party that it 294 00:15:42.840 --> 00:15:45.679 accommodates people who blame the Jews for everything. 295 00:15:48.159 --> 00:15:51.639 I'd like to go back to your Joe Kenton start there. 296 00:15:52.799 --> 00:15:55.200 My understanding I would never listen to it, but I 297 00:15:55.320 --> 00:15:58.120 read it is that. In the midst of his latest 298 00:15:58.759 --> 00:16:03.519 podcast with Tucker Carlson Interview with Tucker Carlson, about thirty 299 00:16:03.600 --> 00:16:06.159 minutes in, he talks about the fact that the reason 300 00:16:06.240 --> 00:16:10.559 he knows, the reason he knows that there is no 301 00:16:10.840 --> 00:16:15.360 threat from Iran is because one of those iotolas. I 302 00:16:15.440 --> 00:16:17.559 can't keep them straight. Why can't they have different names? 303 00:16:17.639 --> 00:16:22.240 But anyway, one of them. Five six years ago, in 304 00:16:22.360 --> 00:16:26.200 the midst maybe even longer, sorry, maybe closer to eight, 305 00:16:26.679 --> 00:16:29.480 in the midst of all the nonsense with you know, 306 00:16:29.559 --> 00:16:35.639 Obama sending palettes and negotiating the deal with Iran, he 307 00:16:35.879 --> 00:16:43.600 sent a KAHMANI sent a communication to the I think 308 00:16:43.600 --> 00:16:45.600 it was the UN. I'm not going to remember the details. 309 00:16:45.639 --> 00:16:48.240 You can look it up. But in which he said 310 00:16:48.320 --> 00:16:52.200 that they that the Iranian people, the Iranians believed that 311 00:16:52.799 --> 00:16:59.279 nuclear weapons and chemical weapons were what's it called haram haaram? 312 00:17:00.480 --> 00:17:06.039 I don't know, Yeah, evil bad, just like homosexuals, and 313 00:17:06.160 --> 00:17:10.160 so all those things and dogs, right, nuclear weapons are 314 00:17:10.559 --> 00:17:14.759 that as if that was a a fat wah And 315 00:17:14.920 --> 00:17:18.680 so he claims there's a fat wah against a nuclear weapon, 316 00:17:18.799 --> 00:17:23.400 and b how stupid do you have to be to 317 00:17:23.599 --> 00:17:28.119 think that because Kamane says something, it means anything. You 318 00:17:28.240 --> 00:17:31.440 know that in the Koran, what is it called tekia 319 00:17:31.599 --> 00:17:35.079 something like that. I can't keep it straight there. It 320 00:17:35.240 --> 00:17:39.119 is a tenant of Islam that you can lie and 321 00:17:39.240 --> 00:17:42.000 dissemble and be disingenuous and do whatever you have to 322 00:17:42.079 --> 00:17:44.880 do for the good of the whole. So that is 323 00:17:44.960 --> 00:17:48.559 his argument. My understanding was left out of any kind 324 00:17:48.640 --> 00:17:50.720 of briefings on I run for the last several months. 325 00:17:50.799 --> 00:17:53.160 I don't know if that's a misinformation campaign or what. 326 00:17:53.920 --> 00:17:57.759 But supposedly for the last several months he hasn't heard 327 00:17:57.759 --> 00:18:00.799 any of the briefings and so doesn't know what the 328 00:18:00.960 --> 00:18:06.759 actual strategic and tactical reasons were and so on. But 329 00:18:07.160 --> 00:18:10.400 that's his argument. So let's start there. I want to 330 00:18:10.519 --> 00:18:16.359 mention Yesterday in my class, I asked students about was 331 00:18:16.400 --> 00:18:20.519 it true that most young people believe that we're fighting 332 00:18:20.599 --> 00:18:23.519 this war because of Israel, that you know, we were 333 00:18:23.559 --> 00:18:25.920 too afraid not to join it, Trump was too afraid 334 00:18:25.960 --> 00:18:31.599 not to join it, that Israel has an outsized impact, 335 00:18:31.799 --> 00:18:36.119 outsize leverage on our foreign policy decisions. And one of 336 00:18:36.160 --> 00:18:38.920 my students, he's a very smart student, looks at me 337 00:18:39.000 --> 00:18:42.039 and says, he says, does anybody understand who Trump really is? 338 00:18:42.160 --> 00:18:45.960 Can you imagine him actually being plowed by Netan Yahoo 339 00:18:46.039 --> 00:18:48.759 into doing something which came from a young person, Okay, 340 00:18:48.799 --> 00:18:50.960 which I thought was a really, really smart So I 341 00:18:51.160 --> 00:18:53.519 wonder I just want to mention one more thing. John 342 00:18:53.599 --> 00:18:57.240 the CNN, I don't know, CNN announced it that guy 343 00:18:57.680 --> 00:19:03.400 Henry Henry Harry Harry, what name Harriet, that's him, was 344 00:19:03.480 --> 00:19:06.200 talking about the fact that mag is basically one hundred 345 00:19:06.240 --> 00:19:11.640 percent behind Trump on this war. So what we ended 346 00:19:11.720 --> 00:19:14.160 up discussing in my class, for what it's worth, was 347 00:19:15.079 --> 00:19:17.279 this is all that winning the war is going to 348 00:19:17.440 --> 00:19:23.480 require the political will to do so, and that's going 349 00:19:23.559 --> 00:19:27.319 to require the political messaging that keeps a majority of 350 00:19:27.359 --> 00:19:30.640 the public behind the war. Does that make sense. That's 351 00:19:30.720 --> 00:19:36.799 going to be not our military capabilities, weapons capabilities, but 352 00:19:36.960 --> 00:19:40.519 actually whether or not Trump can and his people can 353 00:19:40.680 --> 00:19:45.039 convince the Americans across the board that we needed to 354 00:19:45.119 --> 00:19:47.759 do this. And of course things like Joe pan Bring, 355 00:19:47.839 --> 00:19:51.720 Tucker Carlson, and Megan Kelly, all of those things make 356 00:19:51.759 --> 00:19:54.359 it more difficult. Never Mind, you know the Democrats, so 357 00:19:54.359 --> 00:19:56.759 they're not even worth thinking about. But to see this 358 00:19:56.920 --> 00:19:59.160 split is very upsetting. But I don't think the split 359 00:19:59.240 --> 00:20:02.119 is as big as they're I think that's right. 360 00:20:02.359 --> 00:20:04.599 Uh. I meant to send this to you guys, and 361 00:20:04.720 --> 00:20:07.480 I just look out of time. The most startling to that, 362 00:20:07.480 --> 00:20:10.680 I mean, I expect Tucker and Candice Owens to go berserk, 363 00:20:10.720 --> 00:20:13.839 and the American Conservative magazine, which is fully isolationist and 364 00:20:13.880 --> 00:20:17.279 hates Israel. What startled me the most two or three 365 00:20:17.359 --> 00:20:20.880 days ago was Christopher Caldwell in a Spectator coming out 366 00:20:20.960 --> 00:20:23.599 with a very harsh article just out of nowhere, it 367 00:20:23.640 --> 00:20:25.559 seemed to me, saying this is the end of Trump, 368 00:20:25.680 --> 00:20:28.000 a total betrayal of everything he stands for and ought 369 00:20:28.039 --> 00:20:30.400 to be doing. And it was startling. I mean, there 370 00:20:30.480 --> 00:20:33.200 was no equivocation about it. He just and and you Look, 371 00:20:33.240 --> 00:20:35.400 Chris is a smart guy. I've had my disagreements with him. 372 00:20:35.400 --> 00:20:37.599 I've also thought he's reporting on Europe is the best 373 00:20:38.400 --> 00:20:42.400 for an American and this that just staggered me to 374 00:20:42.480 --> 00:20:42.759 see that. 375 00:20:43.000 --> 00:20:45.640 And that's just Steve. Do you mind my saying that 376 00:20:45.839 --> 00:20:49.400 that may be the reason why he gets this so wrong, 377 00:20:49.880 --> 00:20:52.480 because he is, in fact, call it, I would call 378 00:20:52.519 --> 00:20:56.279 it maybe obsessed with Europe, and that that sometimes I 379 00:20:56.400 --> 00:21:01.359 think changes his perspective because you know, you're Europe is Europe, 380 00:21:02.119 --> 00:21:05.359 and I do think you know, he's critical, He's been 381 00:21:05.400 --> 00:21:09.759 critical of France. He's certainly the most knowledgeable American reporter 382 00:21:09.920 --> 00:21:13.720 writing about France and so forth. But at some point 383 00:21:14.480 --> 00:21:19.440 that kind of influence has to have. The European way 384 00:21:19.519 --> 00:21:23.240 of thinking about things has to seep steep in there somehow, 385 00:21:23.359 --> 00:21:24.599 is what I'm thinking could be. 386 00:21:25.000 --> 00:21:29.640 I don't know. I was totally I thought you did. Yeah, 387 00:21:29.680 --> 00:21:31.039 I thought I couldn't. I was just staying. 388 00:21:31.079 --> 00:21:32.640 And then he came out with another one a day 389 00:21:32.720 --> 00:21:38.119 or two later, with another anti war person, I forget, Yeah, unspectator, 390 00:21:38.240 --> 00:21:40.960 inspectator right right, Yeah. 391 00:21:41.200 --> 00:21:43.440 Well, the latest news I saw first thing here Saturday 392 00:21:43.480 --> 00:21:47.400 morning is that Iran fired long range missiles at Diego Garcia, 393 00:21:47.440 --> 00:21:50.200 which is twenty five hundred miles away. We had doubted 394 00:21:50.279 --> 00:21:52.519 they had the capacity to shoot something that far. Apparently 395 00:21:52.559 --> 00:21:55.039 it didn't hit. I'm not sure if they fell short 396 00:21:55.119 --> 00:21:58.039 or were just inaccurate, but that range puts most of 397 00:21:58.079 --> 00:22:02.240 European capitals in range of Iran right now. And you know, okay, 398 00:22:02.359 --> 00:22:03.599 that's an interesting fact. 399 00:22:04.599 --> 00:22:09.880 Well, they're already changing their minds to some extent after 400 00:22:10.079 --> 00:22:13.759 basically turning their backs on Trump, and Trump saying sorry, 401 00:22:13.799 --> 00:22:17.160