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Speaker 4: I don't know what it was, but it's from at
Speaker 4: least to three thousand feet above us.
Speaker 1: See, I passed right.
Speaker 3: Over the top of us.
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Speaker 2: To God on an unidentified object every liberty or call
Speaker 2: or calm on an unidentified flying object.
Speaker 5: A Welcome to UFO Chronicles, a place where people share
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Speaker 4: Hello everyone, and welcome to this show. I hope you're
Speaker 4: all doing okay. I'm Nick Hunter and you're listening to
Speaker 4: the UFO Chronicles podcast. We are joined tonight by Jay
Speaker 4: in North Carolina, and this episode, Jay will be sharing
Speaker 4: two of his UFO sightings. The first one was where
Speaker 4: Jay and his wife witnessed something shooting down from the
Speaker 4: heavens next to their house. At first, they thought it
Speaker 4: was a shooting star until it stopped on a dime
Speaker 4: and then his second occurred while he was out making
Speaker 4: deliveries for his job. He had stopped to have lunch
Speaker 4: and take in the scenery of Grandfather Mountain when he
Speaker 4: saw a silvery disk moving around in the clouds above
Speaker 4: the mountain. Jay is up next, but.
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Speaker 4: Hello Jay, Welcome to the podcast.
Speaker 2: Hello glad to be here.
Speaker 4: Thank you for coming on today and you're calling from
Speaker 4: North Carolina.
Speaker 2: My pleasure to be here. Nick.
Speaker 4: Great stuff. Now, Jay, you have a couple of experiences
Speaker 4: to share with us. Would you like to start in
Speaker 4: the beginning.
Speaker 2: Please, sir, love to back when I was little, I
Speaker 2: was probably five years old at the time. We lived
Speaker 2: in Fort Lauderdale, Florida, and my mom and dad moved
Speaker 2: to Plantation, Florida, and we moved into an older home
Speaker 2: and we were in a dense neighborhood and I had
Speaker 2: a little sister, she was three years old at the
Speaker 2: time I was five, and we had separate bedrooms, and
Speaker 2: my bedroom was separate and then on the other side
Speaker 2: of the home from my mom and dad. I never
Speaker 2: really you know, at the age of five, you don't
Speaker 2: really think about anything like that. You don't know, you
Speaker 2: don't know anything about ghosts or anything like that, so
Speaker 2: nothing really scares you at that age. But one night
Speaker 2: down in South Florida. If you're from Florida, you know
Speaker 2: that it's very hot down there. I mean, you know,
Speaker 2: back in the early seventies, nobody really had central air
Speaker 2: at that time, so people slipped slept with their windows
Speaker 2: open at night and Uh, my window was open. I
Speaker 2: had a little bit of the moonlight shining through the
Speaker 2: window and slept with the sheet over myself. I was
Speaker 2: laying on my back, and I remember waking up in
Speaker 2: the middle of the night with something tickling my feet.
Speaker 2: I felt my feet being tickled. I woke up and
Speaker 2: it startled me. I mean, I just didn't I didn't
Speaker 2: know what it was. I didn't know what to make
Speaker 2: of it. But it stopped as soon as I opened
Speaker 2: my eyes. And I wasn't afraid. I I was just
Speaker 2: really missed about the whole thing. And so I thought
Speaker 2: that I was trying to think, you know, what could
Speaker 2: have done that, you know, and I thought it could
Speaker 2: have been my little sister, which she she slept in
Speaker 2: a crib that night in the other bedroom. So I
Speaker 2: walked into her room and she was sound asleep in
Speaker 2: her crib. And then I walked to the other side
Speaker 2: of the house and into mom my Dad's room, and
Speaker 2: they were Dad was snowing on the in the bed
Speaker 2: and Mom was found asleep or trying to sleep. And
Speaker 2: so I just shrugged my shoulders and went back to
Speaker 2: my bedroom and uh went back to sleep again, put
Speaker 2: the sheet over myself and went back to sleep and
Speaker 2: didn't think nothing of it. I don't know how many
Speaker 2: days it went by till the next time this happened.
Speaker 2: But it was another night, you know, pretty much like
Speaker 2: the other night.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 2: The moon was shining through the window still. It may
Speaker 2: have been a full moon, I don't know, but it
Speaker 2: was shining through the window, and I recall something actually
Speaker 2: grabbing my bed, something forcefully, like two hands grabbing my bed,
Speaker 2: I foot of my bed, and actually pulling the sheet
Speaker 2: off of myself. And when I woke up, I actually
Speaker 2: saw the sheet flying in the air and the light,
Speaker 2: you know, I just visualized it. I could see the
Speaker 2: light coming through the window, and I could see the
Speaker 2: sheet of mine flying through the air and then slowly
Speaker 2: falling to the ground at the foot of my bed.
Speaker 2: And I was in shock. I just I could not
Speaker 2: believe what was going on, you know. And at that
Speaker 2: time I was quite brightened, you know, and I was
Speaker 2: so scared that I was scared to stiff. I couldn't move.
Speaker 2: I just did not I could not move. I was
Speaker 2: paralyzed because of this, uh this happening. And I finally
Speaker 2: got the nurse to run to my mom and Dad's room,
Speaker 2: and I went and you know, I went into the
Speaker 2: room and actually jumped in their bed and fell fast
Speaker 2: asleep there, and I told them about it the next morning.
Speaker 2: I believe this kit kept on happening for quite a
Speaker 2: while and some to find out after we moved away
Speaker 2: from there, and that after I got a little older
Speaker 2: in age, I reminded my mom and dad about that
Speaker 2: when I was a little older, and they said they
Speaker 2: had forgotten about that, but they did tell me, which
Speaker 2: all chill up my spine. They said somebody had killed
Speaker 2: themselves in that home at one time. And uh, it
Speaker 2: was just kind of an experience, an experience, you know,
Speaker 2: as a younger child. You know, That's about all I
Speaker 2: recalled from that experience, you know, But I just know
Speaker 2: that this was happening on the periodically for until we
Speaker 2: moved out of the home. The second one here, I'll
Speaker 2: go into This is the experience that I wanted to
Speaker 2: share about what my wife and I saw. My wife
Speaker 2: and I had been married for over thirty two years now,
Speaker 2: and we were married in nineteen ninety two. After four
Speaker 2: years of flipping two homes, we decided to build our
Speaker 2: own home. My wife and I purchased this beautiful wood.
Speaker 2: It secluded a lot about ten miles away from the
Speaker 2: town of Boom, North Carolina. This is nineteen ninety six
Speaker 2: when we purchased the acre lot that we lived. After
Speaker 2: we purchased the acre lot, we built our home. It
Speaker 2: took us about about six months to build our home.
Speaker 2: And at the time we heard this, it was April
Speaker 2: of nineteen ninety six, and when we had our house completed,
Speaker 2: it was October. And while we built the home, we
Speaker 2: were very frugal with our purchasing of things because we
Speaker 2: just didn't want to be home for you know, we
Speaker 2: didn't want to be like one of the couples that
Speaker 2: would lose their house in a bankruptyre anything like that.
Speaker 2: So we were very smart about our purchasing at things.
Speaker 2: And the reason why I'm saying that is because we
Speaker 2: decided not to purchase blinds for our windows only because
Speaker 2: we lived way off the beaten path, lived way back
Speaker 2: in the woods, and so we didn't purchase lines for
Speaker 2: our windows. And one evening, my wife and I were
Speaker 2: getting ready for bed, and probably about eleven o'clock at night,
Speaker 2: and my wife was in the bed and I was
Speaker 2: in the bathroom. To brushing my teeth, and I turned
Speaker 2: turned off the light, walked over to the bed and
Speaker 2: got into bed. My wife was facing towards the back
Speaker 2: window of our home, which was facing the cow pasture
Speaker 2: that was next to our property, and when I got
Speaker 2: in bed, I just laid there and put my arms
Speaker 2: around her, and we both had our arms around each other,
Speaker 2: and we were both looking out that window. When you're
Speaker 2: out in the country like that, very starry at night,
Speaker 2: very dark, you could see every star in the sky.
Speaker 2: And we both suddenly saw a flashlight and this flashlight
Speaker 2: was coming from above. It was shooting down like a
Speaker 2: shooting star, and we both said to each other, look
Speaker 2: and because we were startled, because everything started lighting. The
Speaker 2: room started lighting up a little, and it was getting
Speaker 2: brighter and brighter, and we both thought that we were
Speaker 2: going to see something very spectacular, something like, you know,
Speaker 2: actual meteor hit in the ground or something. You know,
Speaker 2: it was just like a ball of fire coming down
Speaker 2: from the heavens. But what happened was that it stopped
Speaker 2: on a dime. It just stopped on a dime right
Speaker 2: next to our home, above the field. Next to us.
Speaker 2: We were like, wait a minute, are we seeing this.
Speaker 2: I could not believe that it was this huge ball
Speaker 2: of fire. It was like a ball of flames, but
Speaker 2: it had other colors in it, like blue. It had red, yellow, orange,
Speaker 2: but it had blue color in that tu It's like
Speaker 2: it wasn't It was almost like a ball of fire,
Speaker 2: but it was like a ball of something. I can't
Speaker 2: rightly explain exactly what I was seeing. It was behind
Speaker 2: the trees as well. Well, I know it was just
Speaker 2: this big mass of something, and it was behind the trees,
Speaker 2: and I could see probably through the woods. I could
Speaker 2: probably see about maybe sixty percent of it. The size
Speaker 2: of it was probably the best I could crick collect.
Speaker 2: It was probably maybe fifty feet in diameter, and it
Speaker 2: was probably about one hundred feet off the ground. It
Speaker 2: started bobbing up and down behind the trees. We were fascinated.
Speaker 2: I mean, we were shocked, but we were fascinated at
Speaker 2: what we were seeing. This object was bobbing up and
Speaker 2: down and going in different directions behind the trees behind
Speaker 2: our home. I automatically got out of bed and in
Speaker 2: my underwear, I ran over to the closets there in
Speaker 2: the hallway, grabbed a camcorder and told my wife, said
Speaker 2: I was going to go outside the video what we
Speaker 2: were seeing, and she said, be careful. So I walked
Speaker 2: through the house, opened the back door, walked out on
Speaker 2: the back deck, and I stood there, and I was
Speaker 2: just mesmerize looking at this thing, this big ball of
Speaker 2: light bouncing up and down behind the trees. I was
Speaker 2: so mesmerized that I forgot to even turn on the
Speaker 2: video camera. I mean, I was just standing there in shop.
Speaker 2: I could not believe what I was witnessing. And I
Speaker 2: don't know how long I was standing there. I would
Speaker 2: I would imagine probably I don't know, five to ten minutes,
Speaker 2: you know, somewhere in between. There I stood there. I
Speaker 2: was just so startled. I was so astonished. I could
Speaker 2: not believe that I was actually seeing this. And you know,
Speaker 2: because I read about things like this, but I've never
Speaker 2: actually seen anything like this in my whole life. So
Speaker 2: when I got the nerve up, I started walking steps
Speaker 2: at the deck, walked off the steps, I started walking
Speaker 2: across the backyard very carefully, but very slowly as well,
Speaker 2: and did not take my eyes off this object. And
Speaker 2: I'm not recording anything. I don't know why I did
Speaker 2: not record it, but I again, I was just mesmerized.
Speaker 2: I had forgotten that I was out there to video
Speaker 2: you know, this, this object, you know, but it was
Speaker 2: just such an incredible thing, and so I made my
Speaker 2: way to the pasture next to us. Suddenly I I
Speaker 2: don't know what happened, But the next thing I know,
Speaker 2: the object is further away then I remembered, even farther
Speaker 2: away than it should have been. And you know, I
Speaker 2: don't I can't explain that. All I know is that
Speaker 2: the object object was about maybe seventy five yards away
Speaker 2: from me, and all of a sudden, it's way up
Speaker 2: in the sky going southwest. It's almost like I lost
Speaker 2: a piece of time there or something. I'm not saying
Speaker 2: that that happened, but that's the only way I can
Speaker 2: explain that. And when I did make my way through
Speaker 2: the clearing through the pasture, at that moment, this object
Speaker 2: was following the transmission line, the electrical transmission line that
Speaker 2: went to Boo, North Carolina. It was almost like it
Speaker 2: was following that electrical line. And when I think of it,
Speaker 2: when I think about it, it actually landed above the
Speaker 2: electrical line, and I don't know if it was it
Speaker 2: was almost like it was a like it was a
Speaker 2: wormhole or something like that that it fell through, and
Speaker 2: then it just stopped after it went through that wormhole,
Speaker 2: and it followed that electrical like it. I don't know
Speaker 2: if it was absorbing the electricity or I don't know
Speaker 2: what it was doing, but it was following the line.
Speaker 2: I don't know if that's a coincidence or not, but
Speaker 2: I just thought that was really interesting that it was
Speaker 2: doing that. But when I thought about at the moment
Speaker 2: I thought about recording, the object was so far off
Speaker 2: that I thought, well, it wouldn't do me any good,
Speaker 2: you know, taking the video of it, because it would
Speaker 2: look like a plane, you know, somebody, you know, everybody
Speaker 2: would say it was a plane. So I said there
Speaker 2: was no use in doing it, so I didn't. I
Speaker 2: did take maybe a little, you know, maybe ten seconds
Speaker 2: of it, but then I just stopped. The object just
Speaker 2: kept on, you know, going out of sight towards the
Speaker 2: town of Boon, beyond where we lived. And that was
Speaker 2: that experience. That was a very very incredible experience time.
Speaker 2: I'll never forget it, and it impacted my life pretty profoundly.
Speaker 2: I mean it has affected me as a person as
Speaker 2: an adult. You you live in this world, you know,
Speaker 2: thinking that things are what they are, but then when
Speaker 2: you see something like that, it's just so awesome to me,
Speaker 2: it's just there's no way to describe it. I'm mad.
Speaker 2: I've had a hard time describing the feeling, but it's
Speaker 2: just it was just so other than awesome. But it
Speaker 2: changes to you as a human being because you start
Speaker 2: thinking that these things, you know, there is some credence
Speaker 2: to these things. You know, there is you know, there's
Speaker 2: a lot of shows out there and about this sort
Speaker 2: of thing, and and it gives that credibility it maybe,
Speaker 2: you know, want to get into that more, read about
Speaker 2: that more, and I'm a very avid reader when it
Speaker 2: comes to that. Now, I want to hear about other
Speaker 2: people's experiences and see if they're comparable to what I experienced.
Speaker 2: It was a very very incredible experience.
Speaker 4: That is sure interest in Jay.
Speaker 3: Oh.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you would send it from the window and you
Speaker 4: grab your camera recorder nineties cameracorder, so they were quite
Speaker 4: they were quite big, and then you went outside to
Speaker 4: film it. When you got to your porch, could you
Speaker 4: still see it?
Speaker 2: Yes? I could. It was The distance was probably say
Speaker 2: at least a football field away, seventy five yards to
Speaker 2: maybe one hundred yards away, and it was behind the
Speaker 2: pine trees. But I could visually see approximately maybe you know,
Speaker 2: sixty to seventy five percent of this object that was
Speaker 2: bobbing up and down behind the trees. And you know,
Speaker 2: it was just bright, very bright, different colors. I didn't
Speaker 2: see any purples or anything like that. I may have salt,
Speaker 2: some pink. It was almost like a like a Christmas
Speaker 2: tree almost, you know, but it was like a ball
Speaker 2: of light.
Speaker 4: Could you make a tail or a trace of light
Speaker 4: when it was moving?
Speaker 2: I could not know. I couldn't make that out Now
Speaker 2: that I think of it, now that I'm visualizing it now,
Speaker 2: and now that I'm reliving it, it's almost like a
Speaker 2: I can't say it was cylindrical, or I can't say
Speaker 2: it was. It was almost like a disc kind of,
Speaker 2: but it was. There was a bunch of light around it.
Speaker 2: It was blowing, and I couldn't see like lights going
Speaker 2: across it or anything like like your typical UFO. You see,
Speaker 2: I didn't see that. I didn't see lights going back
Speaker 2: and forth. I saw. I was like, and I guess
Speaker 2: it was because the object was moving up and down
Speaker 2: and round and down and you know, going in all
Speaker 2: different directions, I couldn't make out the object shaped, you know,
Speaker 2: behind the trees. At that moment.
Speaker 4: You see on the surface, people would say, oh, that's
Speaker 4: something like board lightning, which in itself is really really
Speaker 4: rare to see. But bore lightning, it doesn't stop. It
Speaker 4: doesn't really stop on a dime. And no size wise,
Speaker 4: I mean, you said, Dian about fifty.
Speaker 2: Feet, maybe fifty feet. It may have been more than that,
Speaker 2: even you know, with the light ball of light, it
Speaker 2: may have been even more than that. It definitely had
Speaker 2: a it did have a center to it, but the
Speaker 2: center was so bright that I couldn't make out the
Speaker 2: its shape, but I could see it radiated. That's the word.
Speaker 2: It was radiating light. And it was there's so many
Speaker 2: colors to it, you know, because it was bobbing up
Speaker 2: and down. It made it look like fire, you know,
Speaker 2: because of the movement, I guess. But like you asked me,
Speaker 2: if it was fifty feet, you know, it could have
Speaker 2: been bigger than that. It's hard to tell because it
Speaker 2: was you know, it was quite you know, a distance
Speaker 2: away from the home, but it was not that far,
Speaker 2: you know, it was I would say maybe at the
Speaker 2: most a football field away.
Speaker 4: Right, Okay, where's something like ball lighting? I mean the
Speaker 4: ball lightning doesn't get much bigger than I think about
Speaker 4: five foot in diamas, certainly not as as big as that.
Speaker 4: And it stopped on a dime and basically just stayed there,
Speaker 4: and then when you came out, it was still in
Speaker 4: the same position it did.
Speaker 2: It did again. It came It's almost like it came
Speaker 2: through like a wormhole. And it's the only reason why
Speaker 2: I come up with that is because I've seen the
Speaker 2: Skywalker ranch. Yeah, the the determined that some of that,
Speaker 2: you know, they determined that there could be a wormhole there,
Speaker 2: and that makes sense to me that it could be
Speaker 2: a wormhole. You know that it was that it traveled through,
Speaker 2: because it was it came straight down, stopped on a dime,
Speaker 2: and then once it stopped, that's when it began to
Speaker 2: move erratically behind the trees.
Speaker 4: And you said there was a period of time from
Speaker 4: when you you saw it, when you left your porch,
Speaker 4: and then all of a sudden it was traveling away
Speaker 4: from you.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I stood there for about I would imagine five ten minutes.
Speaker 2: It could have been longer. I don't know. But all
Speaker 2: I know is I was mesmerized, almost hypnotized with these
Speaker 2: lights that I was just such shocked, you know, while
Speaker 2: I stood there looking at this, and it was not
Speaker 2: only shocked, but I was amazed. But I was petrified.
Speaker 2: I mean, I just could not move because I was
Speaker 2: taking it all in just it was so much for
Speaker 2: my brain to handle. I just couldn't move because it
Speaker 2: was just enormous, you know, it was such an enormous
Speaker 2: thing that happened. You know, I've never seen anything like
Speaker 2: that in my whole eye, never thought I would see
Speaker 2: anything like that, you know, And so I stood there.
Speaker 2: It could have been longer than five to ten minutes,
Speaker 2: I don't know. But when I did finally came to
Speaker 2: then that's when I decided to I better make my
Speaker 2: way to that field so i'd get this thing recorded.
Speaker 2: And I started, you know, walking across the backyard. I
Speaker 2: didn't film the whole way, I mean, I because I
Speaker 2: was I was scared, for one, but I was still
Speaker 2: in total amazement. I had a lot of respect for
Speaker 2: the situation because it could have you know, you hear
Speaker 2: about people being abducted, and I didn't want to be
Speaker 2: one of those those people. I didn't want to be
Speaker 2: that statistic, you know, I didn't want to fall into
Speaker 2: it under any of that. So I took my time
Speaker 2: as far as making my way through the field, and
Speaker 2: I didn't film. I don't know why I didn't film,
Speaker 2: because it would have been awes to me. It would
Speaker 2: have been on all the shows if I would have
Speaker 2: filmed this, and I could hit myself in the head
Speaker 2: for not doing so. It's almost like I had no
Speaker 2: control over why I didn't do it, if that makes sense.
Speaker 2: And I wish we had a camera phone back in
Speaker 2: those days, you know, back in those days we didn't.
Speaker 2: Maybe I would have. You know, a camcorder is not
Speaker 2: something that you used every day, and it wasn't something
Speaker 2: like we used today, like the cell phone. You know,
Speaker 2: we do everything with the cell phone. Then breathe, it
Speaker 2: seems that's right.
Speaker 4: I mean I used to take the nineties camera recorded
Speaker 4: on investigations and they were quite bulky and you certain
Speaker 4: wouldn't carrying them in your pocket. They were quite big.
Speaker 4: I mean, bearing in mind back back in the late
Speaker 4: nighties we barely had the internet.
Speaker 2: That's right. Yeah, we've come a long way or regressed.
Speaker 2: I don't know which way it is. But either we've
Speaker 2: come a long way or we have And I don't know.
Speaker 4: I think when the younger generation hear us talking about
Speaker 4: the nineties and the eighties and they think, as we're
Speaker 4: talking like stone.
Speaker 2: Age, Yeah, I get that a lot.
Speaker 4: Yeah, me too. They were simpler times, Jay.
Speaker 2: They were good times.
Speaker 4: They were indeed back in the day, back in the day,
Speaker 4: as they say, obviously it was the late nineties. And
Speaker 4: did you manage to report it all your sighting?
Speaker 2: I did. I reported it to a move On I
Speaker 2: actually it was such an incredible story that I wanted
Speaker 2: to share that with move On. So I looked it
Speaker 2: up on the internet and typed in my story and
Speaker 2: set that too them. But nobody around here really. I
Speaker 2: told some of the people that I know. Of course,
Speaker 2: my wife knew about it. And my wife is one
Speaker 2: of the most honest people that you'd ever meet and
Speaker 2: come across. And you know, she said she saw something,
Speaker 2: she saw something, and she said she saw it. I mean,
Speaker 2: it's not just me, it's her as well. You know,
Speaker 2: she saw it as well. And she she'll back up
Speaker 2: everything that I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's always good if if someone else sees it
Speaker 4: and when you went back inside, did you tell her
Speaker 4: what happened?
Speaker 2: I did when I went back into the bedroom. I
Speaker 2: don't think we talked that much. I mean we talked
Speaker 2: a little bit, but again she was in shock and
Speaker 2: I was in shock, and uh, I guess we were
Speaker 2: trying to run that in our lines. You know, we
Speaker 2: were just we're having difficulty with it. I guess we
Speaker 2: did really explain it, or try to explain it to
Speaker 2: one another. We talked about it a little bit, you know,
Speaker 2: I told her what I saw a little bit, but
Speaker 2: we've got back into bed and went to sleep. I
Speaker 2: think it was later, you know, maybe the next day,
Speaker 2: before we ever discussed it with one another. Because you're
Speaker 2: trying to process the whole thing.
Speaker 4: I understand, And I don't think we can leave without
Speaker 4: saying congratulations on thirty two years of marriage.
Speaker 2: Oh you're welcome.
Speaker 4: You've got twelve years on top of mine.
Speaker 2: Well, thank you, thank you very much. Yeah, we've been
Speaker 2: married thirty two years now, We've got a got a
Speaker 2: great marriage.
Speaker 4: It certainly sounds that. I mean, anything that's worthwhile is
Speaker 4: always worth working hard for.
Speaker 2: It is it is, you know, you just have to
Speaker 2: work out on it and work at it. My wife
Speaker 2: and I were talking about that last night. We were
Speaker 2: saying to each other, how you know, great marriage is,
Speaker 2: you know, but it's a lot of work, you know,
Speaker 2: a lot of give. You know. I would said it
Speaker 2: was like two people on other other end of the
Speaker 2: tuggle work rope. You know, sometimes you have to you
Speaker 2: have to let the other poll and then you have
Speaker 2: to pull you know sometimes, you know, but you never
Speaker 2: want to pull the other over the line. Just keep
Speaker 2: it right there in the center as much as you can.
Speaker 4: One percent. There's two people in that relationship, we're exactly
Speaker 4: the same. I wouldn't change it, Don't get me wrong.
Speaker 4: I doubt if I'm the easiest person to live with them.
Speaker 4: But she she hasn't buried me in the garden yet.
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Speaker 2: So far, that's good.
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Speaker 5: Jay.
Speaker 4: Okay, do you want to move on to your next
Speaker 4: UFO siting? Please?
Speaker 2: Sure? This was probably this happened, this was after the
Speaker 2: year two thousand. I want to say this is maybe
Speaker 2: in two thousand and two. At the time, I was
Speaker 2: in the propane business. It was about noontime and I
Speaker 2: had to make it delivered to a person that didn't
Speaker 2: live here all the time, but he lived down under
Speaker 2: a hill kind of. So I drove my truck down
Speaker 2: the hill to the house. Nobody was there, and it
Speaker 2: was a beautiful day. Was hardly any clouds in the
Speaker 2: sky anytimes. So I thought, well, this would be a
Speaker 2: great place to eat my lunch. So I parked my
Speaker 2: truck and put my truck boks down and turned off
Speaker 2: the truck except for its radio lunch box, and I
Speaker 2: started eating my lunch and the play beautiful view of
Speaker 2: a mountain called Grandfather Mountain that is a boon, North Carolina.
Speaker 2: And but it's a beautiful mountain. It's one of the
Speaker 2: highest peaks around around our area, and it's got the
Speaker 2: space of a How they come up with the name
Speaker 2: Grandfather Mountain is if you look at the mountain, face
Speaker 2: in the mountain had a certain direction, it looks like
Speaker 2: the profile of a man. You can actually see it's
Speaker 2: no and you could see its lips, and so they,
Speaker 2: you know, naturally they called it Grandfather the mountain after that,
Speaker 2: after you know, seeing that the first people settlers that
Speaker 2: had come here a long time ago named it that.
Speaker 2: And so I was eating my lunch and listening to
Speaker 2: the radio and beautiful sight in front of me, and
Speaker 2: I could not believe seeing disc in the air. It
Speaker 2: was a free disc and it was it was kind
Speaker 2: of wobbling a little bit in this one area of
Speaker 2: there's some clouds by it, but it was kind of
Speaker 2: wobbling a little bit in the sky. And this was
Speaker 2: probably it's miles off, I would say probably, I don't know,
Speaker 2: maybe a mile away, maybe maybe a mile and a half.
Speaker 2: But it was way up in the sky that too.
Speaker 2: But it was definitely silvery disk flying above the mountain.
Speaker 2: In Actually it was just it was just staying stationary,
Speaker 2: but wobbling. Again. I couldn't believe what I was seeing.
Speaker 2: I was just shocked. I just could not believe I
Speaker 2: was actually getting to witness something like this. What happened
Speaker 2: next was just incredible as well. It disappeared and then
Speaker 2: it would reappear in another partart of the sky above
Speaker 2: that mountain. It kept on doing that. I don't know
Speaker 2: how many times it just kept on doing it kept stationary,
Speaker 2: wobbling in the sky, and it may have stopped. It
Speaker 2: might have stopped some of it, some of the points
Speaker 2: that it stopped, It may have stopped in the sky.
Speaker 2: It may have been, you know, just completely stationary. But
Speaker 2: at other times it was wobbling in the air. I
Speaker 2: mean it's kind of slowly going, you know, a slow wobble,
Speaker 2: let's say. But it would disappear and then reappear in
Speaker 2: the sky different places. You know. When it would disappear,
Speaker 2: I would look for it and see it reappear, and
Speaker 2: I could see the sun shining on this object. I
Speaker 2: mean you could see the gleam of the sun on
Speaker 2: this It was silvery disc and it was just one disc.
Speaker 2: I mean, but you know, it just kept on disappearing reappearing.
Speaker 2: I finally got out of the truck because I you know,
Speaker 2: I wish I had a cell phone at the time
Speaker 2: because I would have recorded it. You know, that would
Speaker 2: have been a great record. But at the time, you know,
Speaker 2: we didn't have cell phones at that time, or at
Speaker 2: least I didn't have one. Not many people had one
Speaker 2: at the time, if they had them at all. I
Speaker 2: sat there and watched it. It was just an incredible
Speaker 2: experience watching this thing pop up in different areas above
Speaker 2: that mountain. It lasted for around I don't know, I
Speaker 2: would say ten to fifteen minutes maybe, and then it stopped.
Speaker 2: It just appeared the uh, the whole experience stopped and
Speaker 2: it was gone. But I did see I mean, this
Speaker 2: was a disc shaped object. I mean like your typically
Speaker 2: UFO that you see on some of the shows that
Speaker 2: you see definite silver disc. And it didn't have sharp edges.
Speaker 2: The edges weren't sharp. It had kind of a like
Speaker 2: a pizza dough or something like a crust or something.
Speaker 2: It had kind of a a shape to its edge.
Speaker 2: But it was definitely a disc like a frisbee. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's exactly what it was like. It was like a
Speaker 2: frisbee in the air, kept on popping up different places
Speaker 2: above the mountain as I was eating my lunch, and
Speaker 2: the place that it was appearing was it's kind of
Speaker 2: a you know, there's not a lot of area because
Speaker 2: there's not a lot of homes that it's not government.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's owned by a stickular man, but I
Speaker 2: think the National Park Service has land around it, so
Speaker 2: there's no homes that are built in the National Parks
Speaker 2: area or the you know, the land that the National
Speaker 2: Park owns. There's no homes that are built, of course.
Speaker 2: But I did report it to move on, and I
Speaker 2: did research it on the internet to see if anybody
Speaker 2: has ever seen anything like that similar to the experience
Speaker 2: that I experienced. I did see one experience there in
Speaker 2: that area, but it was at night time. But it
Speaker 2: wasn't in the daytime like I was seeing it. You know,
Speaker 2: it was kind of strange about that, other than you know,
Speaker 2: seeing a UFO. The military used to I don't know
Speaker 2: what the military was doing there back in the seventies.
Speaker 2: Of course they wouldn't tell you, but we used to
Speaker 2: see the military around that mountain. I don't know what
Speaker 2: they were doing, but there were trucks. That are always
Speaker 2: a number of trucks that were in their area. We
Speaker 2: always heard that there was you know, there was mississide
Speaker 2: in that mountain or something like that. That's what people
Speaker 2: used to say, you know, back in the seventies and eighties.
Speaker 2: That was some of the reasoning though as why you
Speaker 2: know there was military people there. You know, there was
Speaker 2: a reason why. I'm they're there, but nobody knows why.
Speaker 2: I don't know if I could tie the two together,
Speaker 2: but I just it was strange that they were there
Speaker 2: back in their late seventies early eighties. But it was
Speaker 2: also strange that are the disc as well find above
Speaker 2: that mountain.
Speaker 4: That sure is very interesting. How far would this disc
Speaker 4: from the top of the mountain range?
Speaker 2: Jay hard to say. I would say several thousand feet.
Speaker 2: I mean it was some from the clouds where the
Speaker 2: clouds are, so whatever that distance would be is where
Speaker 2: it would be. The distance from the ground. It was
Speaker 2: with the clouds. It was below the cloud a little bit,
Speaker 2: but it was up as high as the clouds.
Speaker 4: Is the Grandfather Mountain Range connected to the Brown Mountain
Speaker 4: Range that whereas.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, that's actually that's a little bit southwest of
Speaker 2: Grandfather Mountain, and I actually saw that myself one time.
Speaker 2: That's very true, but it is close to that Brown
Speaker 2: Mountain lights. Brown Mountain exactly forty miles from where I live,
Speaker 2: and my wife and I went there one evening to
Speaker 2: witness this. They say that the best time to witness
Speaker 2: the Brown Mountain lights is in the fall, in October
Speaker 2: or November, when the leaves are coming off the trees,
Speaker 2: and we went out there one evening, you know, to
Speaker 2: witness this during the day. It was probably like five
Speaker 2: o'clock during the day when we arrived. There's this mountain
Speaker 2: called Hawksville Peak, and it's a straight up and down mountain.
Speaker 2: It has a stone face to it that goes straight
Speaker 2: up and down. As it got dark, I saw somebody
Speaker 2: somebody came there and they had a fire going and
Speaker 2: there was some abbiance there and it was kind of cool,
Speaker 2: you know, in October there, so we got some walks
Speaker 2: by the fire, but we started seeing that we started
Speaker 2: seeing a light sheoting up above that mountain, like it
Speaker 2: was almost like a Roaman candle, like somebody was somebody
Speaker 2: had a Roman candle on top of the mountain. We
Speaker 2: started seeing sparkles of red and sparkles of blue flying
Speaker 2: up in the air, not too high, but definitely you know,
Speaker 2: sparkling above the mountain. It go up and then come
Speaker 2: back down and then just disappear. But that night, as
Speaker 2: we were looking at it, we were witnessing a light
Speaker 2: coming around that mountain and it looked like somebody was
Speaker 2: It looked like somebody had a high powered, like a
Speaker 2: two million candle flashlight. It was incredibly bright, and it
Speaker 2: looked like somebody was on a trail, walking on a
Speaker 2: trail around that mountain. Some of us were thinking, well,
Speaker 2: that's somebody walking around mountain, so we didn't pay it
Speaker 2: any mind too much. But a ranger, a park ranger,
Speaker 2: showed up. We were asking him about the Brown Mountain
Speaker 2: light and he said, you're actually witnessing it right now.
Speaker 2: I said, what do you mean. He said, that light
Speaker 2: that you're seeing right there, that's going around that mountain.
Speaker 2: He said, that's the Brown Mountain light right there, that's
Speaker 2: one of them. I said, but it looks like somebody
Speaker 2: walking on a trail. Said happened at me? He said,
Speaker 2: if you will remember, that's got a straight up and
Speaker 2: down faith on that mountain and there is no trail there.
Speaker 2: I said, oh my gosh, So we saw this bright
Speaker 2: light just slowly going around that mountain and then finally
Speaker 2: it disappeared. So yeah, it was a pretty incredible experience.
Speaker 2: But if you come up to the North Carolina Mountains,
Speaker 2: October is time to go and see that late October
Speaker 2: when the leafs are coming off, when the leafs are ancient. Column.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, I've always said if I ever do make it
Speaker 4: to North Carolina, I will certainly make my way to
Speaker 4: the Brown Mountains, and obviously I may even pay a
Speaker 4: visit to Grandfather's That's interesting. Thanks to that Jay.
Speaker 2: It's worth it. Oh you're very welcome. It's very worth.
Speaker 2: A beautiful scenery where you see the Brown Mountain lights.
Speaker 2: It's called Wiseman's View. It's a big valley, just like
Speaker 2: a large long valley. I mean you could throw a
Speaker 2: rock in. It would fall for thousands of feet, you know,
Speaker 2: after you threw it until it hits the ground, So
Speaker 2: I mean it goes. It drops pretty much straight down
Speaker 2: from where your view of the Brown mount lights. You know,
Speaker 2: in the in the fall, when the leaves are changing,
Speaker 2: when the least are orange and red and yellow. It's
Speaker 2: such a beautiful slight. It's just incredible. So yeah, it's
Speaker 2: definitely worth seeing if you're up this way.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, I do. I hearing about people which are in
Speaker 4: these these lights, you know, regardless of the the explanations
Speaker 4: people have given over the years. So to our listeners
Speaker 4: out there, because I know we've got quite a few
Speaker 4: in North Carolina, if you sit in the brown mountain lights,
Speaker 4: get in contact. We'd love to hear from you. Definitely,
Speaker 4: great stuff, Jay, So.
Speaker 2: Glad I got to do this.
Speaker 4: You did great.
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, thank you so much.
Speaker 3: Jay.
Speaker 4: I really appreciate you coming on and sharing that all
Speaker 4: for our listeners.
Speaker 2: My pleasure. Great to be on.
Speaker 4: It was great meeting you Jay. Okay, look after yourself,
Speaker 4: keeping contact and we will speak soon.
Speaker 2: Thank you very much for having me on.
Speaker 4: It was our pleasure day. Take care for now.
Speaker 2: Thank you bye.
Speaker 5: Jay.
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Speaker 4: big thank you to Jay for sharing tonight, and thank
Speaker 4: you all for listening. I will be back next week.
Speaker 4: Till then, stay safe and keep watching the skies. Goodbye then,