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spring ball, so many conversations are occurring surrounding this BA
Cougar football team. Who's going to be stepping up as
wide receiver one? Will it be a bi committee approach?
What about them tight ends? Is this the dynamic duo
of the past a la atulameilely Chad Lewis? What about
Johnny Harlen and Dan Coach? What about Dennis Pitta and
Andrew George. Maybe Walker Lyons and Rogers Sally of PAGA
can just step up and be ballers for Brigham in
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Speaker 3: I'm doing awesome.
Speaker 1: How you guys doing doing fantastic? It's great to have
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thus far, what have been the kind of the storylines,
the the the reports that you've been most intrigued by
coming out of springball.
Speaker 3: Well, one of the things I noticed you kind of
mentioned them in your intro was receiver wide receiver one.
I think what I'm hearing as of right now is
that JoJo's the guy to be there. I think that
makes sense. You know, he's the guy that was expected
to be a started last year. Is only one of
the one of the group that was expected to be
restarted last year. I think Bear mentioned him multiple times,
a Rod mentioned m multiple times, So I definitely think
that's who they're hoping. I think Jojo has a super
high ceiling. I don't think he's lived up to that ceiling.
I think sometimes he has the drop season. He has
some issues with that, But I think athletically, he is
what you look at look for like a stereotypical NFL receiver,
just his his you know, frame, the way he runs,
all those types of things. We just gotta ge him
to really be a really what's sort of aggressive at
the point of point of catch point. So that's one
of the things I'm really intrigued by with that. And
then also that tight end room. I'm pumped about it.
You heard him, You kind of see feel the the
excitement coming from both a Rod and from from Bear
and both their interviews of what that tight end room
can do this year.
Speaker 1: You mentioned jojo upside potential hasn't reached his, But he
hasn't reached that peak yet. Why is it? Why hasn't
he been able to reach that potential? We saw flashes
of it, We've seen flashes of it in the last
cup of years. Why do you believe that Jojo Phillips,
the converted basketball player, the big bodied athletic, great footwork,
Jojo Phillips could be the guy this year that Bear
is targeting consistently.
Speaker 3: I think, and again I don't know Jojo personally, and
I also don't want to make it seem like I'm
trying to dog on him because I'm not. I really
think he has a super high upside, but I think
you kind of mentioned it there, the fact that he's
a converted basketball player. He doesn't seem to me from
the outside look seem like he plays with a ton
of aggression like a football player, more like a basketball
player that's playing football. And I think that's the thing
that is missing from his game. He doesn't attack the ball.
He lets the ball come to him a lot of times,
and I think that's why he has some of the
drops he has. But I also he's not going and
making some of those big plays. I don't know if
that's happening in practice, but just in the game reps
that I'm seeing, that's what I feel like. It's a
lack of aggression.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I want to stay on this topic of wide
receiver one. Do you feel like there's an aw outside
shot that someone like Cody Hagen could get in there?
Because Cody played a lot last year, he wasn't targeted
maybe as much as as a lot of people wanted.
Do you feel like maybe Cody's being slept on in
all the conversation around wide receiver.
Speaker 3: Won I I do well, I don't know. Here's here's
my thought. Flin Cody I and I. Man, it sounds
like I'm hating on a receiver room today, But I
think Cody has like he's obviously super super fast. He
I think he runs really good routes. The thing that
bugs me too, Cody, is that anytime somebody breathes on him,
he falls. And so it just was at least that's
what it looks like from the outside. Again, maybe I'm
not not seeing stuff, but on both kick return and
yards after catch, I just feel like he didn't ever
produce anything after that. As soon as somebody got close
to him, he was down. And so but I think
in terms of getting open and running routes, he does
totally totally have the potential of being wide receiver one
and being a number one target there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's uh. I think the topic du joure throughout
fall camp or excuse me, springball and even into fall
camp is gonna be who's bear Backmeyer who threw for
three thousand yards last year? Who's it going to be
throwing the ball to? Who are his main targets? Look a,
Rod is really really good about game planning with all
of his his his skill positions, right, Like everyone's getting touches,
everyone's getting getting opportunity. There. You saw like Jojo Phillips
being highly targeted in the Stanford game. Up to that point,
other wide receivers Chase Parker, etcetera. Were getting looks. But
so I think there's gonna be a distribution of wealth,
no doubt. But I feel like everybody has their eyes
on the wide receivers and tight ends. Do you think
the tight ends that dynamic duo of Walker Lions and
Roger Salia Paga will become something of comparative nature to
some of the dynamic duos of the past. They have
the talent, there's no doubt. Do you think they have
the chemistry and potential productivity potential there? You know, with
that twelve personnel grouping.
Speaker 3: I think you're totally right. The potential is there. It's
a question of if it's going to happen. And obviously
it's one of those things like, well, if they haven't
been in the system, as long as there's a chemistry
going to be there. But also Barslaly' been in this
I mean obviously he's played thirteen games in the system
or fourteen games in the system. But I do think
that chemistry because he'd really never got it outside of
the season with the guys anyway.
Speaker 1: Last year.
Speaker 3: I think they're still starting in a not a bad
spot in terms of still forming that chemistry all through
spring well and through summer workouts and then through fall camps.
But I definitely think they can be and I really
think one of the things that a Rod has always been.
He was always criticized for this his tight end playing.
The last year, Carson Renald of a sudden became a
huge target for us, and it was like, oh, maybe
it's because we didn't have this talent at that tight
end spot. And I think you'll notice that maybe if
we are lacking a little bit on the receiver side.
I really think a Rod is so good at utilizing
the talent he has and we will see a dynamic
duo of those guys in twelve personnel. And I noticed
also that Bear twice or three times in his interview
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get open. I don't know if that's just where, you know,
making sure he's keeping the room happy or what. But
he did mention a couple times in his interview.
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this Cougar football team, the defense looks like, I mean,
I'll be honest, like it looks like it's gonna be
a top twenty five defense again, Like it's it's pretty
stacked right now. I think the defense is going to
dominate throughout springball. I think the offense is actually going
to struggle mightily in spring ball, and then they'll they'll
have to kind of bounce back through the offseason player
run practices, and then really get into a heated battle
come first two weeks of fall camp. If I say
that to you, you know, are you're concerned about the offense?
Are you more concerned about the offense there? If I
if I tell that to you, if I feel that way,
or are you just like no, the defense is legit,
too legit to quit.
Speaker 3: I think the defense is super legit, and I think
the offense will figure it out, and I think I
don't think it's gonna be as I mean, maybe you're
here in reports that that's already happening, and that totally
could be true. But I'm not too worried about the offense. Yes,
we lose two of our our studs, both you know,
good receivers, but that's really the only position we lose
much at, and so I'm not too worried about the
offense developing. But yes, the defense is going to be incredible,
and every spot they returned guys, I'm excited for the
guys they brought in to add to that depth. I
think even guys like Justin Kirkland who were here last
year that weren't playing healthy ever during the season last year,
are going to be huge pieces. So I think if
you can get if you can get Justin playing that
more of that double taking on double teams where you
maybe wasn't able to do that as much last year,
and then have Keano come off that, I think it's
going to make Keanu a lot better next year. So
that D line, I think it's going to be stout.
The defense is just going to be awesome. And by
the way, I wanted to give your give you your flowers.
Last week you were hinting at Danny Sorenson being on staff,
and here we go just a few days later that
we got that at it. I'm really pumped about that.
Speaker 1: So, yeah, give me a reaction as a fan, right,
do you look at like? Like I said, the biggest
question mark for me on the defense has been how
do you replace all the coaches? Right? Like, what's the
impact of replacing so many coaches in the secondary? We
retain the players, which is fantastic, But you have your
puppeteers right that are sitting there, and they're different to
Mario Warren coaching the safeties as the passing game coordinator,
Lewis Walker cornerbacks coach. You have obviously Wes Johnson, he's
the only holdover. He's the only guy that's retained. He's
the assistant cornerbacks coach. And then Danny is coaching up
the safeties along with to Mario. Probably from a technical standpoints,
he's giving core company. He's disseimitting core competencies and trainings
and footwork and eye control and aiding that in the
development of that room. Give me your overall eval of
these four guys and what you maybe expect from the
secondary coaches this season.
Speaker 3: I mean, I think that safety room has got to
be one of the not overqualified, but just super qualified
rooms we've ever had. Having a guy that's spend a
D one head coach scslbeit, but a D one head
coach and an NFL's super you know, a guy that's
played in the league forever and never and never as
your two coaches in that safety room. I think that's
pretty awesome, and I think that's a that's a really
awesome coaching staff that you can have there. I think
the corners are two ones that I don't know either
one of them. Like I know obviously Wes is evans brother,
and I know that Lewis played under kilone and things
like that, but I just don't It's harder for me
to know how proven those guys are. But I think
that I trust that if Colonia trusted them, we're good.
But I do think that safety room is pretty stacked
in terms of coaching staff.
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Speaker 3: Are you expecting me to answer not? Blue goggled Ben,
That's the big question here.
Speaker 1: I always I always expect you to go blue goggled.
Speaker 3: No. I definitely think that's a good spot for him.
I think he's still got to prove himself. There's still
things that he can improve on. But I think as
much as I'm hearing in the interviews about how much
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's gonna be a it's gonna be an
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marks still are QB two. Hey, is Trayson Bourget? QB
two is it Watson? Traycon has looked good so far
in spring ball slinging it. You know what I thought
was interesting too. We posted a little clip of Terrence Sarion,
a name not many people have discussed, number twenty three.
He looks fleet a foot, very quick, great change of direction,
has a body type that is akin to I would
say Parker Kingston. He's going to be most likely running
out of that slot. Could be a jet guy, has
some good speed and agility. Traycon Borgay chimed in your
QB two right now and says, real deal, are we
not talking enough about Terrence Sarion Brandon Day.
Speaker 3: I think that's probably true. Honestly, I kind of forgot
about him when we've been talking about like legend Glaster
kind of be in that PK mold. But I think
you're right. Terrence Serion is very similar in that same
mold too, and he had more offers coming out high
school and things like that. So I think that's a
good point. And I honestly haven't been talking about enough.
Speaker 1: Probably something else that someone kind of like tipped me
off to today. They said, you know what, if you
know Rogers Sally APAGA plays a Neil Powell type of role.
Remember Neil Neil like junior and senior year, big body
wide receiver, super just quick, you know, good, okay, top
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what I'm saying, Terrence Howe, big body wide receiver can
match up well with all manner of defenders. And I
just want to I was like looking at those kind
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i'm looking at his stats right, here forty six and
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