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Speaker 2: Part two of our conversation that picks up right where
Speaker 2: last week's episode ended for members only, Golf Smarter number
Speaker 2: four hundred and fifty seven, published on October seven, twenty fourteen.
Speaker 2: If Tiger asked Tony Manzoni for help, what would he say?
Speaker 3: This is golf Smarter.
Speaker 2: If just so happens Tiger Woods was listening to this,
Speaker 2: it's it's I know it's not happening, but he's like,
Speaker 2: you know what, I'm going to give Tony Manzoni a call.
Speaker 2: Tiger Woods calls you and says, I could really use
Speaker 2: your help. I listened to what you had to say.
Speaker 2: It makes a lot of sense. What would you do
Speaker 2: for me if Tiger called you and asked for your help?
Speaker 4: What would you do?
Speaker 3: Well?
Speaker 5: After I got up off the floor, no, I mean,
Speaker 5: I mean what I have to say, The Tiger would
Speaker 5: take fifteen minutes.
Speaker 3: I just think, I.
Speaker 4: Just you better charge a lot of money, man.
Speaker 3: You know I would, I would, I would. If I
Speaker 3: did it, I would do.
Speaker 5: It anonymously, and I wouldn't want anything for it, because Tiger.
Speaker 3: Is really important for the game.
Speaker 5: You know, we're losing a lot of players, and Tigers
Speaker 5: is like the Beatles. He's like he's an icon and
Speaker 5: whether you like what he did socially really doesn't matter.
Speaker 3: He's got a huge following.
Speaker 5: And if he he gets back to playing, which I predict,
Speaker 5: he's going to come back stronger than ever.
Speaker 4: Do you really?
Speaker 3: I do? I really really?
Speaker 5: Because I think he's on the right track physically. The
Speaker 5: guy's eighteen years old. I don't care what his number is.
Speaker 5: He's in unbelievable shape, and he's the kind of guy
Speaker 5: that will always.
Speaker 3: Be in good shape.
Speaker 5: And if he just figures out his golf swing, and
Speaker 5: if he figures out how to stay connected through impact
Speaker 5: and keep that left arm high on the chest as
Speaker 5: he rotates his body, which he does on his irons,
Speaker 5: that's what blows my mind. It's like he's got two
Speaker 5: different swings. If he does that with the driver and
Speaker 5: he gets the ball in play, what is that?
Speaker 3: What is he going to shoot?
Speaker 5: Because he's a great putter, he's a great wedge player,
Speaker 5: and he's a great iron player. But the thing that
Speaker 5: has always killed him is that getting that first shot
Speaker 5: in play. And I think part of it is that,
Speaker 5: you know, he lost distance, but he lost distance because
Speaker 5: he bulked up so much. Do you remember when he
Speaker 5: was first on the tour, he had a forty three
Speaker 5: and a half in titlest driver with a steel shaft,
Speaker 5: and he was literally killing it. But as he got
Speaker 5: bigger and bigger and bigger, I think that it affected
Speaker 5: his flexibility and speed and then and then, you know,
Speaker 5: when you start losing a little distance, then you try
Speaker 5: to start picking it up, so now you get fast
Speaker 5: from the top and all, you know, because everybody's human
Speaker 5: in that respect.
Speaker 3: I mean, I used to be considered.
Speaker 5: A long hitter, and now you know I have I
Speaker 5: can't see well, but I can see my ball stop,
Speaker 5: which is a nightmare because I'm not hitting it very far.
Speaker 5: I can hit it square. But listen, when you get
Speaker 5: to a certain age, that's going to happen. So work
Speaker 5: on your short game. But I think that's what happened
Speaker 5: with Tiger. Everybody started blowing him past, it past him,
Speaker 5: so he felt like.
Speaker 3: He was doing something wrong. I think it's just his.
Speaker 5: Physicality changed so much. Said, you know, he kind of
Speaker 5: got in the way of his speed. He's leaned down
Speaker 5: a little bit more and he looks like he's fast again.
Speaker 5: When I watched him a few terms, he came back
Speaker 5: before he got back off because of his injury, started
Speaker 5: bothering him again. He looked his swing looked really really aggressive,
Speaker 5: but not out of control. He used to look like
Speaker 5: it was a little lot of control with the driver.
Speaker 2: And if he were to bulk after bulking up the
Speaker 2: way he did, would you suggest that he go to
Speaker 2: a shorter shaft driver or are a longer one, or
Speaker 2: stay with the forty three?
Speaker 5: No, I wouldn't listen. Tiger has experts telling them what
Speaker 5: to do physically. I think that what I have my
Speaker 5: guys doing, we're doing. We're doing weights, but we're doing
Speaker 5: low weights and high intensive exercises with very little time
Speaker 5: between the exercises, where we try to do one hundred
Speaker 5: one hundred bicep at ten at a time, but with
Speaker 5: only thirty seconds between each each rep or each each grouping,
Speaker 5: and we're trying to get it down at thirty. We're
Speaker 5: get it down to nothing so that you can do
Speaker 5: one hundred in a row. Now, will we reach that goal?
Speaker 3: I don't think so, but we're going to get close.
Speaker 3: But as we progress each week.
Speaker 5: I can see that everyone is getting faster and we're
Speaker 5: taking less time. So the fatigue factor is high, and
Speaker 5: I think that's the new trend.
Speaker 3: In working out.
Speaker 5: If you're an athlete, you're not trying to get big,
Speaker 5: pop by muscles. You're just trying to get lean and mean,
Speaker 5: and this kind of exercise really shreds you, gets the
Speaker 5: fat off you, and it keeps and you keep your flexibility.
Speaker 3: And I know the Tiger knows all about this stuff.
Speaker 5: This guy is he knows a lot about a lot
Speaker 5: of things when it comes to sports.
Speaker 4: He did go to Stanford.
Speaker 2: So this is interesting to me because you've seen the
Speaker 2: eras of athletes, not just golfers, but a lot of
Speaker 2: athletes who didn't pay that much attention to physical fitness.
Speaker 2: And now we're in an era where it's you know,
Speaker 2: even if you're only playing six to eight months a year,
Speaker 2: you're working out all year long because of competition, so
Speaker 2: stiff and it's a long season for everybody, no matter
Speaker 2: what sport you're playing, So you have to be in
Speaker 2: top physical shape. For golfers today, what would you recommend
Speaker 2: be the workout regimen and what areas of focus would
Speaker 2: you put on the body? Would you focus on the
Speaker 2: lower part of the body, the legs, the arms, would
Speaker 2: you work on stamina, would you work on you know, muscle.
Speaker 4: Building or core strength? And where would you go with this?
Speaker 5: Well, I think I think the trend today and I
Speaker 5: and I agree with it is that they're working more
Speaker 5: on the core.
Speaker 3: They're working on arms and chest and back along.
Speaker 5: With the legs, you know, because we don't we don't
Speaker 5: drive the legs through the ball like we used to
Speaker 5: because we're because we're our body's in a little different position.
Speaker 3: When when you were tilted way.
Speaker 5: Back, your head was way behind the ball. Yeah, you
Speaker 5: had to drive your legs to get to the left
Speaker 5: side and then you had to rotate, but you had
Speaker 5: to make a little sliding move.
Speaker 3: Well, no one, no one's, no one is doing that.
Speaker 5: You don't see any sliders like like in days gone by.
Speaker 5: So so the top part is just as important as
Speaker 5: the bottom part. But you have to be careful. You
Speaker 5: have to know what you're doing, or you have to
Speaker 5: have someone help you in that regard so that you
Speaker 5: don't use the wrong type of exercises. Again, golf is
Speaker 5: not a game where you need to be bulked up.
Speaker 5: It's a game where you need to.
Speaker 3: Be with what we call cut or you're shredded.
Speaker 5: That's the kind of body type you want. No, so
Speaker 5: there are some people that are bulky and they have
Speaker 5: to swing the club a different way.
Speaker 3: But Tiger was a very thin kid.
Speaker 5: I had him in a tournament years and years ago
Speaker 5: called Kids were Kids, and he was sixteen years old
Speaker 5: and he was on the thin side. But he hit
Speaker 5: it out there two miles. He hit it out there.
Speaker 5: I remember that day. He was sixteen years old. He
Speaker 5: hit as far as he already did on tour. Now
Speaker 5: he had a longer swing. But his thing was speed.
Speaker 5: Tire runs fast. He's a speed person. Okay, He's not
Speaker 5: a guy that he's not structurally built to be lifting
Speaker 5: heavy weight. He's structurally built to be like a cat,
Speaker 5: and I think he got away from that.
Speaker 3: I think maybe being.
Speaker 5: Around guys like Michael Jordan everything or workout freaks. I
Speaker 5: think he got into body building, and I think he
Speaker 5: I think a mistake was made there.
Speaker 3: And I've seen he looks a little bit more. He's
Speaker 3: a little bit more cut looking now, as you should be.
Speaker 5: And I you know, everyone needs to get into things
Speaker 5: like yoga, anything, stretching.
Speaker 3: If you're really interested in golf, it's range of motion
Speaker 3: that's really important.
Speaker 4: What do you do.
Speaker 3: I've been doing a lot of stretching.
Speaker 5: I've been doing the high intensive exercises, interval exercises, like
Speaker 5: I go on the net and look for anything that
Speaker 5: is related to golf and getting more flexibility so I
Speaker 5: can get the club back a little bit farther, which
Speaker 5: gives me more time to build momentum.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 5: I used to run a lot of ten k's on
Speaker 5: the golf course every night. I used to go at
Speaker 5: the football field here at the college and I'd run
Speaker 5: twenty thirty laps around them, you know, so it's four
Speaker 5: or five miles.
Speaker 3: So I was running probably every day a good ten miles.
Speaker 3: I don't have the.
Speaker 5: Inclination, the time and the stamina to do it, but
Speaker 5: I'm still I still try to move. I'm always I'm
Speaker 5: always active. I think I think you've got to do that,
Speaker 5: just forget golf, just for your overall health.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I'm not a runner, never have been.
Speaker 3: If you run on grass, it's not too bad, but
Speaker 3: it tears you.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, you know. I'm a swimmer. You're what swimmer?
Speaker 4: I go swimming.
Speaker 3: Fantastic because you have resistance in every action.
Speaker 4: You make and it's zero and zero impact.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: The only problem is is that a lot of swimming
Speaker 5: pools have a lot of chemicals in it, so you're
Speaker 5: absorbing those chemicals. So that's you know, if you if
Speaker 5: you're going to do optimum things, then you'd be swimming
Speaker 5: in a saltwater pool and not a typical pool.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Es, Actually the public pool that I swim in is
Speaker 2: is half salt water half chlorine. Okay, Yeah, I love
Speaker 2: and I just love a I love the zero impact
Speaker 2: and and I love the complete resistance. But I also
Speaker 2: love just getting lost in my head, which I do.
Speaker 2: I'm sure you do with any kind of endurance thing.
Speaker 5: Well, sure, and I think I think every man, uh
Speaker 5: and well for that matter, woman, but I can only
Speaker 5: speak from the man's point of view. I think every
Speaker 5: man should stay strong. There's no reason to be weak.
Speaker 5: There's no reason, there's no reason to get feeble. You
Speaker 5: can use light weights, but you can keep your muscle
Speaker 5: tone and you can keep your strength factor. I think
Speaker 5: a lot of people die too early because they get weak,
Speaker 5: and consequently so does their immune system. And I think
Speaker 5: there is a correlation to that. I know people that
Speaker 5: you know, they were good athletes, worked hard, worked out
Speaker 5: all the time, and then they got to a certain
Speaker 5: point in time and then they turned into a seal.
Speaker 5: They just blow up and all of a sudden they die.
Speaker 5: Cholesterol balls up, everything, everything malfunctions. Well that's because everything stopped,
Speaker 5: you know.
Speaker 3: So I really I you know.
Speaker 5: I'm an old guy, but I don't feel old, and
Speaker 5: I'm still strong. And when I go out and work
Speaker 5: on with in the gym with the boys, I can
Speaker 5: still keep up with them. But that's because I've always
Speaker 5: done that. And I highly recommend to anyone that's listening
Speaker 5: that get into a stretching program and get into some
Speaker 5: form of weight training, because even at one hundred years old,
Speaker 5: if you can last that long, you can get stronger
Speaker 5: by resistance, by lifting weights.
Speaker 3: You know, all the rubber band stuff. Yeah, yeah, Okay,
Speaker 3: that's a little bit. But you got to put a
Speaker 3: weight in your hand and move it up and down.
Speaker 5: You're gonna get your you're gonna get your muscle tone back,
Speaker 5: and you're gonna feel a hell of a lot better.
Speaker 2: One of the comments you made earlier on you said,
Speaker 2: take the compensations out of the game.
Speaker 5: Well, a compensation would be if I moved to the
Speaker 5: right from my original starting.
Speaker 3: Position and I've got to move back to the left.
Speaker 5: If I if I overwork my hands going back where
Speaker 5: I cock the club back to where it shaft in
Speaker 5: my left arm, don't don't create an L, but they
Speaker 5: create a V because because my wrist is cocked so
Speaker 5: far that the club is kind of hanging down past parallel,
Speaker 5: then I have to I have to make a compensation
Speaker 5: to get it back into that position where I can just.
Speaker 3: Turn and just hang on. I don't have to do
Speaker 3: anything with my hands.
Speaker 5: So any anything like that, any any timing element that
Speaker 5: you're putting in or you're trying to you know, I
Speaker 5: hear these teachers say you got to roll your hands through.
Speaker 3: To hit the ball.
Speaker 5: Well, you know, if you're slicing the ball, that's a
Speaker 5: quick fix. But that's not the way to play golf.
Speaker 4: And that's hard to do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's amazing to me how people these compensations that
Speaker 2: they try to make.
Speaker 4: They do it during the round.
Speaker 2: I mean, how many times have I heard someone say, oh,
Speaker 2: I lifted my head. Oh I know exactly what I'm
Speaker 2: doing wrong, and they really think that they're changing something.
Speaker 2: But the lifting the head is the most common one.
Speaker 2: Oh I lifted my head.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you lifted your head, or I didn't get under it.
Speaker 5: That's another beauty. You don't get under a ball. You
Speaker 5: head down on it to make it go up, and
Speaker 5: in most cases your head went up or you lost
Speaker 5: your spine angle because it's called body propulsion. You're trying
Speaker 5: to propel an object up, so the body kind of
Speaker 5: lifts to do it again. That goes right back to
Speaker 5: trying to do something to the golf ball instead of
Speaker 5: letting that golf club in the loft and the lie
Speaker 5: angle dictate what that ball is going to do. And
Speaker 5: all you've got to do is swing that club from
Speaker 5: station one to station two and that all that's.
Speaker 3: Going to happen.
Speaker 5: Certainly, you have to have some kind of coordination. I'm
Speaker 5: not saying that you just do that, and you're going
Speaker 5: to play perfect golf. But the more compensations that you
Speaker 5: put in your golf swing, fanning the club open, then
Speaker 5: you got a fan it that close. The more you
Speaker 5: do that, you're just making the game harder.
Speaker 2: Yep, yep, it's so true. It's so sad, it's so true.
Speaker 2: Tell me, I mean the last one on the on
Speaker 2: the golf side, before we wrap this up. How can
Speaker 2: we eliminate that dreaded forty yard shot? Why are we
Speaker 2: coming up forty yard short of a hole when we
Speaker 2: don't want to have a forty yard shot in our
Speaker 2: game and we don't have one in our bag.
Speaker 5: Well, the only place that that should happen would be
Speaker 5: in my estimations on a part five unless you just
Speaker 5: don't have the strength to get to the green in two.
Speaker 3: And a lot of people are in that position.
Speaker 4: Then they're playing the wrong tea box.
Speaker 3: Then they're playing the wrong tea box.
Speaker 5: Correct, And even though I say that, there's a lot
Speaker 5: of people that are not going to move up, stay
Speaker 5: where they are because that's just what they want.
Speaker 4: That's the ego party golf.
Speaker 5: And then in that case, get your wedge and be
Speaker 5: like Lee Trevino you know, hit five hundred wedges a day,
Speaker 5: and then you'll hit that forty yard shot.
Speaker 3: Okay, you know, the four yard shots not a hard shot.
Speaker 5: It's just it's one of those in between shots where
Speaker 5: it's you're not taking it back really far, so you
Speaker 5: have to you know, I've got a couple of juniors
Speaker 5: that I teach and we work on those shots a lot.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I have a friend every time, whether
Speaker 2: you're hitting from thirty forty to fifty or eighty or
Speaker 2: one hundred and twenty, if you land the ball on
Speaker 2: the green, he's gonna go, nice shot. And it's like
Speaker 2: to me, that's like, no, if I'm inside one hundred
Speaker 2: yards or one hundred and twenty yards anywhere there and
Speaker 2: I I A, I expect to be on the green
Speaker 2: on the next shot. But if I'm going to be
Speaker 2: that close, I want to be within ten fifteen feet
Speaker 2: of the hole. If not closer, I don't want to
Speaker 2: just be on the green and have a sixty foot putt.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you have to determine.
Speaker 5: I mean, good players know how far they hit a
Speaker 5: ball and you know how to If they have one
Speaker 5: hundred and fifty yard shot, they're not going to hit
Speaker 5: it one hundred and ninety unless they catch a fly
Speaker 5: or maybe they're maybe they're a little excited because they
Speaker 5: made two or three birdies in a row or something.
Speaker 5: But generally they can control distance. And if you can control.
Speaker 3: Distance, and first of all, you have to know how
Speaker 3: far you hit your club.
Speaker 5: So when you go through, especially your irons, when you
Speaker 5: go through your irons, you have to know, well, how
Speaker 5: far do I hit a seven iron? And then you
Speaker 5: have to determine, Okay, if I can max out a
Speaker 5: seven iron, let's say one hundred and fifty yards, and
Speaker 5: I have one hundred and fifty yard shot, certainly would
Speaker 5: be smart to hit a six iron because I'm not
Speaker 5: going to max out every shot and I'm going to
Speaker 5: mishit it a little bit. So you know, Ken Venturrey
Speaker 5: told me that long time ago when I work with him,
Speaker 5: and he said, you're better served to take one more
Speaker 5: club than you think. It is almost every single time,
Speaker 5: and he said, I think in terms of all the
Speaker 5: rounds you played, how many times.
Speaker 3: Will you pass the pin? And it's so true, it's
Speaker 3: so true.
Speaker 5: So those are those are little elements that we have
Speaker 5: to deal with when we play. But distance control is
Speaker 5: very important, so you have to establish.
Speaker 3: Where you hit a ball.
Speaker 5: But when getting back to that forty yard shot, look,
Speaker 5: the forty yard shot, you're connected. You rotate your body
Speaker 5: in such a fashion that you hit it forty yards,
Speaker 5: you rotate a little bit more. You hit it sixty
Speaker 5: or seventy, you rotate a little less. You hit a thirty.
Speaker 5: But if you're trying to do that with hand action,
Speaker 5: now you got a problem. Now you got a real problem,
Speaker 5: because especially when you hit that forty yard shot, there's
Speaker 5: a little voice in your head, don't thin it, you know,
Speaker 5: don't scull it, don't do this. So you need you
Speaker 5: need a fail safe action in your swing that is
Speaker 5: going to give you that shot or somewhere near that
Speaker 5: without any fear. When we start working those hands, especially
Speaker 5: if you get a tight lie or maybe a funky lie,
Speaker 5: that's when all hell breaks lose and you end up
Speaker 5: you're near the green in regulation and you end up
Speaker 5: with a triple bogie because because you're trying.
Speaker 3: To do it a harder way than you need to.
Speaker 2: And that's when the metal game gets really large because
Speaker 2: you start freaking out about that shot.
Speaker 5: Well, yeah, but if you're a rotary player and you
Speaker 5: rotate from driver to wedge, it's not going to be
Speaker 5: so hard because you're not basing the result on your timing.
Speaker 5: And look, when you're playing for a few bucks or
Speaker 5: it's a tournament or club championship and you get a
Speaker 5: little nervous and everybody does, and you get a little scared,
Speaker 5: and everybody does. The first thing that runs down your
Speaker 5: leg is your eye hand coordination. So you better have
Speaker 5: something that you're doing with those big dumb muscles instead
Speaker 5: of those little you know, when you get nervous, what
Speaker 5: happens your handshake, you know, or your adrenaline gets up.
Speaker 5: So adrenaline is always going to get up unless you're
Speaker 5: taking beta.
Speaker 3: Blockers, and that's not good.
Speaker 5: So we've got to play through our adrenaline and we
Speaker 5: have to have a process that allows us.
Speaker 3: To do that.
Speaker 2: I want to give you one last chance to explain
Speaker 2: to us what the Loss Fundamental is, what the book is,
Speaker 2: and why we should own it and the DVD.
Speaker 5: I think the Lost Fundamental Book, I think it's the
Speaker 5: result of all the years that I've studied this game,
Speaker 5: and I came up with the thought that you know,
Speaker 5: who played the game for a long time, who played
Speaker 5: the game when they were really horrible in the beginning,
Speaker 5: and who became one of the greatest players shot makers anyway,
Speaker 5: of all time.
Speaker 3: That was Ben Hogan.
Speaker 5: I started studying Ben Hogan, and I saw the subtle changes,
Speaker 5: especially after his accident, and I saw that he stayed
Speaker 5: more centered to the ball. So he played off of
Speaker 5: one axis. Or in the old days they say we
Speaker 5: played off the left side, nothing to do with stack
Speaker 5: until that's what they called it. We played off the
Speaker 5: left side, so they played off of one axis. So
Speaker 5: that's really important not to go to the right leg
Speaker 5: axis and then back to the left leg axis. That's
Speaker 5: what the book talks about. The second part it talks
Speaker 5: about is the.
Speaker 6: Connection of the left arm to the pectoral muscle and
Speaker 6: how that left arm works as a lever that is
Speaker 6: being moved back and forth by the turning of the body,
Speaker 6: turning to the right and turning to the left, and
Speaker 6: that lever stays consistent in its form so that the
Speaker 6: club face stay square.
Speaker 3: A long time. That's another part of the action. The
Speaker 3: rest of it is set up. I believe you have.
Speaker 5: To set up sixty forty and so forth. So those
Speaker 5: three elements if I can get you to set up
Speaker 5: properly and you have a decent grip, a comfortable grip,
Speaker 5: and I can get you to rotate, turn your right
Speaker 5: side behind you, and then turn the right side through
Speaker 5: the ball so that the left side goes level left.
Speaker 3: And your left arm states connected.
Speaker 5: If those elements happen in the swing, you're going to
Speaker 5: hit the ball pretty darn good. I've got two juniors.
Speaker 5: One gal I've been working with three years, and she
Speaker 5: is crazy good. She just played in a high school
Speaker 5: match she shot thirty because they only played nine hole matches,
Speaker 5: she shot thirty, And then she played in a two
Speaker 5: day invitation. Broke the record in that, I've got an
Speaker 5: eight year old Chinese boy.
Speaker 4: Wait a minute.
Speaker 2: The thirty was with a couple of part fives, with
Speaker 2: a part five and a couple part three. She played
Speaker 2: yeah for nine Yeah, a regular eighteen hole course.
Speaker 5: But yeah, that was the lowess in Arcachella Valley of
Speaker 5: anybody who's ever played male or female. Okay, and then
Speaker 5: the next day she played in a two day event.
Speaker 5: Broke the record in that. So why is all of
Speaker 5: a sudden she can do these things? And that's because
Speaker 5: she's learned to play this game without a lot of competitions, compensations,
Speaker 5: because she gets scared as heck. She calls in because
Speaker 5: his coach this is really a big tournament, blah blah blah.
Speaker 5: And I say, look, you've prepared yourself, you work hard.
Speaker 5: Now just go play the game. You can't be thinking
Speaker 5: about how to do it when you're out there playing.
Speaker 5: You got to play the game. You got to react
Speaker 5: to the target, not to the ball. And she's she's,
Speaker 5: she's proving my point. And this little eight year old,
Speaker 5: I'll tell you what, Fred, if you've ever seen him
Speaker 5: hit a ball, you want to sell your clubs. It's
Speaker 5: just crazy how pure he hits it. Now, a lot
Speaker 5: of it he got, believe it or not. He learned
Speaker 5: to play by watching golf and the Golf channel. And
Speaker 5: then I just I've taken it from there, improved his grip.
Speaker 5: But I haven't messed too much with that swing because
Speaker 5: it's just a fabulous swing. And he chipped so good
Speaker 5: that I literally said to him, what do you think
Speaker 5: about when you chip?
Speaker 3: Because I was trying.
Speaker 5: I was trying to get a tip because he's so
Speaker 5: solid through impact. So when I see when I see
Speaker 5: that kind of stuff. I can part of it, and
Speaker 5: I mean that's you know, it's the greatest and their
Speaker 5: their minds are real clear. You know, the more we
Speaker 5: know about golf, the hearter the game gets because we
Speaker 5: complicated with a lot of facts and figures.
Speaker 3: If you learn those three little things.
Speaker 5: I told you about good setup and connection and wrote
Speaker 5: and if you can just focus on that and get
Speaker 5: the feel of that, man, you can go out and
Speaker 5: play and enjoy yourself.
Speaker 2: Lots of times I'll receive emails from Golf Smarter listeners
Speaker 2: who are saying, Okay, I'm really intrigued by what Tony
Speaker 2: Manzoni says, and I don't know should I get the
Speaker 2: book or should I get the DVD?
Speaker 4: And I always tell them just get both.
Speaker 2: But if they had to make a choice, what are
Speaker 2: the differences that they're going to notice between the book
Speaker 2: and the DVD?
Speaker 3: Truthfully, I think I would get the book.
Speaker 5: There's some nice little stories in the back of the
Speaker 5: book that I think kind of give you a sense
Speaker 5: of who I am.
Speaker 3: But also in the book, you can under it.
Speaker 5: You can line some areas, yellow mark some areas that
Speaker 5: are very pertinent, and you can keep going back to
Speaker 5: the book the DVD.
Speaker 3: You know, it's a good DVD.
Speaker 5: I'm not going to say it's but there's a lot
Speaker 5: of music and you know fall to roll. I did
Speaker 5: that because and said you need to make a DVD
Speaker 5: with the book. But the book is for me. The
Speaker 5: book is a little bit better. The optimum would be too,
Speaker 5: because then you can see my stupid face and some
Speaker 5: of the things I do. But you see my little
Speaker 5: girl that I that is in there.
Speaker 3: That's when I was starting, and you can see how
Speaker 3: good she swings, and it's an interesting it's an interesting video.
Speaker 3: But if I could only have one, it would be
Speaker 3: the book for sure.
Speaker 2: Okay, well, I appreciate your honesty since you just lost
Speaker 2: ten bucks.
Speaker 3: Well, you know what, most people can afford another ten bucks.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: So if I was buying you know, I mean, I'm
Speaker 5: not a super wealthy guy, but I buy both. Or
Speaker 5: if I bought the book, I would certainly go get
Speaker 5: the tape because I want to see if there's something
Speaker 5: there that because sometimes we learn more visually.
Speaker 4: Than exactly looking at something.
Speaker 2: So you know, no one has ever written back to
Speaker 2: me say you know what, it was a waste of
Speaker 2: my money. And you've had golf smider listeners travel across
Speaker 2: the country to come take lessons with you.
Speaker 3: I've given quite a few lessons, Fred, And I know
Speaker 3: I haven't sent your check.
Speaker 5: But I'm thinking about it. But I've had a lot
Speaker 5: of people, and you know what I also get. I
Speaker 5: get a lot of letters from someone saying, Okay, you
Speaker 5: know I'm really hitting the driver good, but I'm doing
Speaker 5: this with the iron or I'm doing that.
Speaker 3: And I welcome that because I can give you the answer.
Speaker 5: I don't need to see your golf swing. You just
Speaker 5: tell me what the ball is doing. I'll tell you
Speaker 5: what you're doing.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 5: So I love doing that. And again, I got three
Speaker 5: areas to hit. How are you setting up levels of
Speaker 5: the ball center to the ball? Are you sixty forty?
Speaker 5: Is your left arm drop in first move or is
Speaker 5: it staying up high on that chest as you rotate
Speaker 5: your chest? Those things, they're easily said. If someone tells
Speaker 5: me I'm pulling everything, then I know their arms.
Speaker 3: Are going first.
Speaker 5: You see what I'm saying, I'm hooking everything. I know
Speaker 5: their arms are going first.
Speaker 3: Their arms.
Speaker 5: The clubhead should be last coming through. It shouldn't be first.
Speaker 5: It shouldn't be going ahead of your body. Your body
Speaker 5: should be pulling through. So these are real simple fixes.
Speaker 5: And golf prone knows this stuff. You know, I don't
Speaker 5: have a you know I don't have I'm the only
Speaker 5: one that doesn't have a handle on this, or I
Speaker 5: should say, yeah, I'm not the only one that knows this.
Speaker 5: There's a lot of good golf pros out there that
Speaker 5: are good teachers. But I'll tell you what, this is
Speaker 5: a never ending school. I tell my students, once you
Speaker 5: start getting into researching golf, you will never graduate because
Speaker 5: there's always a move. There's always a little a little
Speaker 5: tightening up of the bolts that's beneficial.
Speaker 4: Yep, yep.
Speaker 2: Well listen, I am scheduled to come down to the
Speaker 2: Palm Desert area just after Thanksgiving.
Speaker 4: I'll be there for a week.
Speaker 2: And if it all goes well and it's not like
Speaker 2: my last trip of you know where things got disrupted,
Speaker 2: let's get together. I'll bring some video, I'll bring my
Speaker 2: recording gear. We'll sit down, we'll have another conversation with
Speaker 2: golf smarter, and maybe we will do we'll go out
Speaker 2: and play golf together and we can do like a
Speaker 2: playing lesson and we can grab some video of that.
Speaker 3: What do you think that would be great? I would
Speaker 3: enjoy doing that. I want to see your action and
Speaker 3: find out how many strokes I get. Oh yeah, right,
Speaker 3: well no, I really seriously, I would really like to
Speaker 3: do that.
Speaker 5: Great we can talk and talk about strategies on the
Speaker 5: golf course.
Speaker 3: I love that that kind of thing because there's a
Speaker 3: lot to that part of it too.
Speaker 2: Well Tony, it's always my joy. I love talking to
Speaker 2: you about golf. I'm always entertained, but I always walk
Speaker 2: away with a handful of nuggets that make my game better.
Speaker 4: Thank you so much.
Speaker 5: Listen, I'm going to tell you for I really thank you.
Speaker 5: You know, as I've said in the past, and I
Speaker 5: will repeat that your site is the best site I
Speaker 5: think in golf.
Speaker 3: Really, it's very informative. There's a lot of great product
Speaker 3: on there. I'm glad.
Speaker 5: I'm glad and honored to be part of it, and
Speaker 5: I do feel like I'm part of the family.
Speaker 3: I love that