WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.160 --> 00:00:02.720 By the way, the new bagels sandwiches are awesome. Oh 2 00:00:02.759 --> 00:00:04.799 I'll bet I think they're using real cheese. I think 3 00:00:04.839 --> 00:00:07.000 they use like some kind of cheese sauce. 4 00:00:07.519 --> 00:00:15.160 RFK would not appreve Why think alone when you can 5 00:00:15.240 --> 00:00:18.320 drink it all in with Ricochet's Three Whiskey Happy Hour. 6 00:00:18.839 --> 00:00:23.160 Join your bartenders, Steve Hayward, John You, and the International 7 00:00:23.199 --> 00:00:25.559 Woman of Mystery Lucretia. 8 00:00:28.960 --> 00:00:29.760 Where they lap. 9 00:00:30.480 --> 00:00:35.520 David at on the soda. 10 00:00:36.520 --> 00:00:39.799 Welcome everybody to the latest episode of the Three Whiskey 11 00:00:39.840 --> 00:00:43.479 Happy Hour, which I think is the first one, shocking 12 00:00:43.520 --> 00:00:46.920 as it is to believe, ever hosted from a McDonald's. 13 00:00:47.159 --> 00:00:50.159 Since we are now doing the video, I am going 14 00:00:50.240 --> 00:00:55.560 to show our loyal listeners the amazing surroundings where your 15 00:00:55.600 --> 00:00:56.799 show comes from today. 16 00:00:58.039 --> 00:01:00.000 You know, I can't tell that apart from a Cracker barrelde, 17 00:01:00.359 --> 00:01:02.159 at least the new cracker barrel, which I guess we're 18 00:01:02.159 --> 00:01:04.280 not going to get. Oh anyway, I. 19 00:01:04.239 --> 00:01:07.400 Can't talk about what eating at McDonald's can do to you. 20 00:01:07.480 --> 00:01:12.879 Based upon that survey you just took of the dining room, John, it. 21 00:01:12.799 --> 00:01:15.599 Makes it makes me want to go out and shoot 22 00:01:15.640 --> 00:01:17.680 foreigners and conquer a new territory. 23 00:01:18.120 --> 00:01:20.280 Now, John, if i'd known you were going to host 24 00:01:20.319 --> 00:01:23.200 from such a you know, Lucretian has been telling me 25 00:01:23.200 --> 00:01:24.599 the last couple of weeks if we're going to be 26 00:01:24.640 --> 00:01:26.640 doing video, I got a dress better, but so I 27 00:01:27.000 --> 00:01:27.920 you know, I wore sure. 28 00:01:27.879 --> 00:01:29.200 You are well. 29 00:01:29.359 --> 00:01:31.359 I'd draft you better than this if i'd known we 30 00:01:31.359 --> 00:01:33.719 were being hosted for McDonald's class Joinney. 31 00:01:34.680 --> 00:01:37.760 Now, this is a great McDonald's is two blocks down 32 00:01:37.799 --> 00:01:41.359 the street from Sloat Avenue. I'm sure that call that 33 00:01:41.439 --> 00:01:43.760 name causes terror amongst the woke. I think that was 34 00:01:43.799 --> 00:01:47.599 the admiral that came out to San Francisco and conquered 35 00:01:47.920 --> 00:01:50.840 the northern California for the United States and the eighteen 36 00:01:50.879 --> 00:01:54.200 forty eight war. And just down from the Naval Postgraduate 37 00:01:54.280 --> 00:01:58.719 Institute where I'd in for the last two days, Steve Lucretia, 38 00:01:58.760 --> 00:02:01.400 how are you and where are you guys? 39 00:02:02.120 --> 00:02:04.920 I'm home, and I want to say we're John's eating 40 00:02:04.920 --> 00:02:09.199 bagels and mcmuffins for breakfast. It is actually breakfast time, 41 00:02:10.479 --> 00:02:13.560 which means that even I can't quite get myself to 42 00:02:13.639 --> 00:02:16.599 be drinking whiskey at this early hour. However, I am 43 00:02:16.639 --> 00:02:20.000 coming through for the three whiskey happy hour podcast with 44 00:02:20.800 --> 00:02:24.439 some amazing tea. The first one is Whiskey Rebellion Tea, 45 00:02:25.120 --> 00:02:31.080 which is Bourbon's smoky tea in celebration of the two 46 00:02:31.159 --> 00:02:36.479 hundred and fiftieth anniversary of the American Revolution. And that's 47 00:02:36.560 --> 00:02:40.319 black tea. And then I put these together. This is 48 00:02:40.439 --> 00:02:48.560 gunpowder tightly rolled explosive green tea, which is also put 49 00:02:48.599 --> 00:02:52.520 out in honor of the American Revolutionary War. So it's 50 00:02:52.560 --> 00:02:56.800 actually the gunpowder and Bourbon in my tea. 51 00:02:58.319 --> 00:03:00.000 Awesome, Steve, how about you. 52 00:03:01.159 --> 00:03:03.719 I'm just drinking coffee, but I am bringing it in 53 00:03:03.800 --> 00:03:06.479 this wonderful Age of Reagan coffee mug that they give 54 00:03:06.479 --> 00:03:10.280 out now the Reagan Library, which you know, not really 55 00:03:10.319 --> 00:03:11.960 in honor of my book, but I'll take it anyway 56 00:03:11.960 --> 00:03:12.800 and claim that it is. 57 00:03:14.520 --> 00:03:17.039 And you know, Stevie should be drinking in the nice 58 00:03:17.039 --> 00:03:18.919 swag You're going to be getting us, right the three 59 00:03:18.919 --> 00:03:22.240 Whiskey Happy Hour slash sub stack merchandise. 60 00:03:22.560 --> 00:03:25.120 Eventually, eventually, one thing in the. 61 00:03:25.280 --> 00:03:29.159 Way Lucretia's hat that says mass deportation on it. In 62 00:03:29.199 --> 00:03:31.319 yours it says the Golden Age has returned. 63 00:03:33.280 --> 00:03:34.439 What does yours say? John? 64 00:03:37.000 --> 00:03:39.919 You know, none of it was clearmont slogan's really hit me. 65 00:03:41.039 --> 00:03:43.919 Imagine that. 66 00:03:44.520 --> 00:03:50.159 I guess they had one that said Nature's law, Nature's God, 67 00:03:50.280 --> 00:03:52.280 or something like that. You guys probably know better than. 68 00:03:52.199 --> 00:03:55.159 The laws of nature and nature's God. That'd be it, 69 00:03:56.520 --> 00:03:59.319 the phrase from the Declaration of Independence. 70 00:03:59.400 --> 00:04:07.000 John that. Okay, that's a great way to start our episode. 71 00:04:07.360 --> 00:04:11.479 So the first issue that we would like to discuss 72 00:04:12.039 --> 00:04:15.319 is the terrible news of the school shooting at the 73 00:04:16.120 --> 00:04:24.959 Denunciation Catholic Church in Minneapolis on Wednesday. Young man slash woman. 74 00:04:25.120 --> 00:04:28.160 I guess there was man transitioning into a woman. 75 00:04:29.079 --> 00:04:32.639 A man full stop, but go ahead. 76 00:04:33.240 --> 00:04:37.040 Got outside a church as a school year was starting 77 00:04:37.759 --> 00:04:42.600 children at prayers. I think right now two children have 78 00:04:42.720 --> 00:04:46.439 been killed and at least eighteen were injured, in addition 79 00:04:46.639 --> 00:04:51.040 to staff and adults who were also sent to the hospital. 80 00:04:51.720 --> 00:04:56.319 And this has led to the same, I think predictable 81 00:04:56.439 --> 00:05:03.040 demands for gun control, tough gun control laws and doing 82 00:05:03.079 --> 00:05:08.959 something about these school terrible school shootings. Lucretia, why don't 83 00:05:09.000 --> 00:05:13.240 you start off what are your thoughts about the shootings 84 00:05:13.360 --> 00:05:16.399 and the coverage and what it means for policy. 85 00:05:17.240 --> 00:05:19.639 Well, so, first of all, it's not just a call 86 00:05:19.720 --> 00:05:24.360 for gun control which is, of course, is ridiculous and 87 00:05:24.399 --> 00:05:27.399 as stupid. Who was it? Stephen King, one of those 88 00:05:27.480 --> 00:05:30.079 idiots who thinks that they have a right to comment 89 00:05:30.160 --> 00:05:34.279 on anything, came out and said, Oh, the problem isn't 90 00:05:34.319 --> 00:05:36.959 that he was trans. The problem is that he had 91 00:05:37.000 --> 00:05:41.560 a gun. No, absolutely, the problem is that he was trans. 92 00:05:41.680 --> 00:05:45.720 I am willing to bet the lucretia compound mortgage on 93 00:05:45.800 --> 00:05:53.160 the fact that the drugs, the hormone therapy, the puberty blockers, 94 00:05:53.199 --> 00:05:56.680 all of the things that they give to already mentally 95 00:05:56.720 --> 00:05:59.240 ill people. By the way, these are people who are 96 00:05:59.439 --> 00:06:03.040 so illusional that they somehow think they are born in 97 00:06:03.120 --> 00:06:07.639 the wrong body. The stupidest thing that has ever become mainstream, 98 00:06:07.720 --> 00:06:10.879 I think in my entire lifetime, is that stupid phrase. 99 00:06:11.319 --> 00:06:14.000 Let me just tell you. I have a friend who's 100 00:06:16.040 --> 00:06:19.279 her friend, her cousin. Actually, I'm going to call cousin grandma. 101 00:06:19.439 --> 00:06:22.279 Grandma has a grandson that she has custody of because 102 00:06:22.279 --> 00:06:25.720 the mother was a drug addict and the son has 103 00:06:25.920 --> 00:06:31.120 now some mental disabilities. He's a teenager and he comes 104 00:06:31.120 --> 00:06:34.759 home from school every day from his special education courses 105 00:06:35.040 --> 00:06:39.120 saying that Nana, they tell me, I'm really supposed to 106 00:06:39.199 --> 00:06:41.920 be a girl, Nana, They tell me, I'm really supposed 107 00:06:41.920 --> 00:06:45.079 to be a girl. So the most evil part of 108 00:06:45.120 --> 00:06:49.120 the less project in destroying nature and destroying you know, 109 00:06:49.199 --> 00:06:52.160 God's beautiful creation of human beings as men and women, 110 00:06:52.800 --> 00:06:58.240 is that they target the mentally ill, the mentally disabled. 111 00:06:58.439 --> 00:07:03.160 They target the call it the genuinely marginalized. I'd have 112 00:07:03.319 --> 00:07:05.800 another anecdote with that I won't share right now, but 113 00:07:06.000 --> 00:07:09.920 the Left is just evil. They are profoundly, profoundly evil. 114 00:07:10.040 --> 00:07:13.839 And the idea that they go after these most vulnerable 115 00:07:13.879 --> 00:07:18.240 people is me, look at what that idiot. I don't 116 00:07:18.240 --> 00:07:23.720 have enough negative, insulting adjectives to describe the left these days. 117 00:07:23.759 --> 00:07:27.680 But what's his name, Frey, fried Brain, whatever his name is? 118 00:07:28.000 --> 00:07:31.879 For the mayor of Minneapolis. Oh, the thing we really 119 00:07:31.920 --> 00:07:33.720 have to make sure that we don't do right now 120 00:07:33.839 --> 00:07:39.199 is call out and put our hatred towards the trans community. Okay, 121 00:07:39.920 --> 00:07:44.439 not towards the trans community, but how about the irresponsible 122 00:07:44.560 --> 00:07:51.040 I don't have enough adjectives responsible leftist politicians who make Minneapolis, 123 00:07:51.040 --> 00:07:57.600 Minnesota a trans sanctuary state, encouraging mental illness. If Steve 124 00:07:57.680 --> 00:08:03.600 told me that he's suddenly identifying as you've heard this before, 125 00:08:03.680 --> 00:08:06.959 this is not mine a pirate? Am I going to 126 00:08:07.360 --> 00:08:10.160 insist that Steve can have his eye gouged out and 127 00:08:10.199 --> 00:08:12.439 his hand cut off and and a parrot stuck on 128 00:08:12.439 --> 00:08:15.720 his shoulder so that he can fully embrace who he is. 129 00:08:16.199 --> 00:08:17.680 I've got the shirt going for it right now. 130 00:08:17.720 --> 00:08:21.800 But okay, it's a good shirt. Anyway, I'm done, and 131 00:08:21.839 --> 00:08:24.279 I'm not going to talk about gun control, and I'm 132 00:08:24.279 --> 00:08:26.360 not even going to talk about mental health. I'm going 133 00:08:26.399 --> 00:08:31.040 to talk about the leftist There are words, but I 134 00:08:31.079 --> 00:08:35.399 can't use them who prey on vulnerable people and then 135 00:08:35.480 --> 00:08:39.960 turn around and also have an entire propaganda campaign about 136 00:08:39.960 --> 00:08:43.279 how Catholics are evil and Trump is evil and Jews 137 00:08:43.360 --> 00:08:44.840 or evil, and you go on and on and on, 138 00:08:45.279 --> 00:08:48.279 and you know, we could talk also about shutting down 139 00:08:48.320 --> 00:08:50.639 mental institutions. Steve probably knows a lot more about that 140 00:08:50.639 --> 00:08:52.200 than I do. And I don't mean it because he 141 00:08:52.240 --> 00:08:56.240 belongs in one, because he follows those policy issues. It's sick. 142 00:08:56.919 --> 00:09:02.960 It's absolutely sick. And of course, despite what jenfist, stupid 143 00:09:03.000 --> 00:09:06.879 Pisak had to say about it, everyone I know has 144 00:09:06.919 --> 00:09:10.519 been praying fervently for the families that you know, that's 145 00:09:10.519 --> 00:09:15.039 what you do when evil strikes you pray because that's 146 00:09:15.279 --> 00:09:18.799 really what you need to do, even on a personal level. 147 00:09:18.799 --> 00:09:21.200 So I'm done, Steve, there's my rant for the day. 148 00:09:23.200 --> 00:09:25.600 Yeah wee. Do you think that this has something to 149 00:09:25.679 --> 00:09:32.240 do with transgender ideology and treatments and what about some 150 00:09:32.279 --> 00:09:34.279 of the things people on the left have said about 151 00:09:34.360 --> 00:09:38.320 stop praying, you should stop praying? Oh, do something about it? Oh? 152 00:09:38.360 --> 00:09:41.600 Yeah? In reverse order, this is really exposing how hostile 153 00:09:41.679 --> 00:09:45.559 the left is to expressions of piety, right, I mean, 154 00:09:46.000 --> 00:09:49.120 I don't even you know. Jd Vance said it best, says, no, Look, 155 00:09:49.639 --> 00:09:53.120 we don't pray as a substitute for action. We pray 156 00:09:53.200 --> 00:09:56.320 because we think God is listening and that's what you need. 157 00:09:56.440 --> 00:09:59.279 And the left hates that they won't. Okay, I'll just 158 00:09:59.320 --> 00:10:02.320 stop there going a long time about that. I agree 159 00:10:02.320 --> 00:10:04.879 with lu Creation about Mayor Jacob Frey of Minnesota, and 160 00:10:04.879 --> 00:10:07.720 I'm a little baffled that he is being so out 161 00:10:08.399 --> 00:10:14.039 aggressive in his allying himself with transgender ideology because his 162 00:10:14.240 --> 00:10:18.159 rival to be mayor is a Somali Muslim, who if 163 00:10:18.200 --> 00:10:20.720 he wins, and who knows he might, I'm kind of 164 00:10:20.720 --> 00:10:22.840 guessing he's not going to be very sympathetic to the 165 00:10:23.600 --> 00:10:27.919 LPGBQ plus agenda. It's been interesting that some of these 166 00:10:27.919 --> 00:10:30.720 cities in Michigan, where you've had a Muslim majority elected, 167 00:10:30.720 --> 00:10:34.960 the local city councils have canceled, you know, rainbow sidewalks 168 00:10:34.960 --> 00:10:36.320 and the flags and all the rest of that, and 169 00:10:36.360 --> 00:10:38.879 suddenly all the liberals and Michigan are saying, what, wait 170 00:10:38.919 --> 00:10:41.759 a minute, we didn't mean this when we embraced diversity. 171 00:10:42.480 --> 00:10:45.679 And then finally, I'll just say two more things. One 172 00:10:45.720 --> 00:10:49.200 is I don't think we know well. I try to 173 00:10:49.440 --> 00:10:52.000 follow the seventy two hour rule of these things, wait 174 00:10:52.120 --> 00:10:55.879 till we get information. First, more information, and then initial 175 00:10:55.879 --> 00:10:59.200 information that is confirmed. So there's a lot we don't 176 00:10:59.240 --> 00:11:01.879 know yet, but a lot is leaked out. Unlike the 177 00:11:01.919 --> 00:11:05.360 transgender shooter in Nashville last year, where they actively suppressed 178 00:11:05.799 --> 00:11:09.000 the manifesto and anything about it. I am watching a 179 00:11:09.080 --> 00:11:14.240 news media tie itself in knots to avoid any consideration 180 00:11:14.279 --> 00:11:17.360 of this issue and the irony. I think I sent 181 00:11:17.399 --> 00:11:19.200 you guys a text about this. I'm watching the NBC 182 00:11:19.320 --> 00:11:21.600 Nightly News the other night when it happened, and of course, 183 00:11:21.639 --> 00:11:25.639 you know, the lead story, no mention at all of 184 00:11:25.679 --> 00:11:28.840 the gender angle of the shooter. And then later in 185 00:11:28.879 --> 00:11:30.879 a segment we get to later in the broadcast, we 186 00:11:30.919 --> 00:11:32.840 get to a segment they're running as a series right 187 00:11:32.840 --> 00:11:36.159 now called cost of Denial, and it's all about health 188 00:11:36.159 --> 00:11:39.200 insurance problems. Hardly a new topic or a new story, 189 00:11:39.639 --> 00:11:42.039 but they're making a big deal about health insurance covers, 190 00:11:42.120 --> 00:11:45.000 denials and so forth. But I thought the title that 191 00:11:45.200 --> 00:11:48.039 cost of Denial, well, we're looking at a very high 192 00:11:48.080 --> 00:11:50.480 cost of denial to refuse to acknowledge that this is 193 00:11:50.559 --> 00:11:54.399 even an issue to be considered. And so you know, here, 194 00:11:54.799 --> 00:11:58.240 the thing I'm following is, while we await more details 195 00:11:58.399 --> 00:12:01.519 to nail down some things, is I'm just amazed at 196 00:12:01.559 --> 00:12:03.720 the media malpractice over this. I shouldn't be. We know 197 00:12:03.799 --> 00:12:06.120 the media is terrible about these things, but this one, 198 00:12:06.679 --> 00:12:09.440 even the media is having trouble keeping a straight face. 199 00:12:10.120 --> 00:12:12.840 Uh you know, So the New York Times NPR, instead 200 00:12:12.840 --> 00:12:16.639 of using she has occasionally lapsed into they because apparently 201 00:12:16.639 --> 00:12:20.159 the shooter used. They then pronouns sometimes right, it changed 202 00:12:20.159 --> 00:12:24.840 from moment to moment, so, uh, you know, to be continued. Yeah, 203 00:12:24.879 --> 00:12:26.039 I'll just stop there. 204 00:12:26.080 --> 00:12:30.480 I think, oh, go ahead, and there, please, John, go ahead. 205 00:12:30.519 --> 00:12:36.200 I actually think this is something that the federal government 206 00:12:36.200 --> 00:12:39.279 could do something about, which is, let's have a study. 207 00:12:39.879 --> 00:12:42.879 One thing that worries me is that I agree with 208 00:12:42.919 --> 00:12:46.000 the creature. The ideological bias is strong, so strong here 209 00:12:46.000 --> 00:12:49.240 about even asking questions that one thing you could do 210 00:12:49.440 --> 00:12:53.720 is do a study and see are these transgender involved 211 00:12:53.799 --> 00:12:56.519 mass shootings occurring at a higher rate than their alleged 212 00:12:56.559 --> 00:12:59.799 part of the population. I was trying to see if 213 00:13:00.120 --> 00:13:05.039 any data. Yeah, we have these stories anecdotal evidence, but 214 00:13:05.120 --> 00:13:08.120 let's see some you know more, you know, rigorous studies. 215 00:13:08.320 --> 00:13:10.960 The Justice Department could do that, the FBI could do that. 216 00:13:11.399 --> 00:13:13.720 The figure out and you can do it. 217 00:13:14.000 --> 00:13:16.919 That's the problem, and it is so small and seriously, 218 00:13:17.279 --> 00:13:20.080 since twenty twenty three, for instance, there have been four 219 00:13:20.440 --> 00:13:26.159 school shootings, two of which are by confirmed self described transgenders, 220 00:13:26.159 --> 00:13:30.639 and two of which are questioned about whether that was 221 00:13:30.639 --> 00:13:33.720 a factor. Out of four, now here's the problem. What 222 00:13:33.919 --> 00:13:37.399 constitutes a mass shooting? If somebody commits suicide, if you 223 00:13:37.440 --> 00:13:40.759 know this or that, But if you look at if 224 00:13:40.759 --> 00:13:43.200 you if you can find mass shootings to a narrow 225 00:13:43.200 --> 00:13:46.519 set of propositions, which are you know, some person who 226 00:13:46.600 --> 00:13:51.279 just goes off on a school There's been four since 227 00:13:51.320 --> 00:13:53.320 twenty twenty three, and two of them have been committed 228 00:13:53.320 --> 00:13:57.919 by transgender persons. So, you know, I think that the 229 00:13:58.000 --> 00:14:02.279 more important thing is to figure out what the drugs 230 00:14:03.120 --> 00:14:10.240 and the scientific experimentation that the what's his name, the 231 00:14:11.159 --> 00:14:16.360 Nazi Bengali left want to carry out on on vulnerable children. 232 00:14:17.159 --> 00:14:18.679 That's where we should be studying too. 233 00:14:18.919 --> 00:14:22.879 This is another thing where the Scrammty case at the 234 00:14:22.879 --> 00:14:26.039 Supreme Court over this summer allows states to go ahead 235 00:14:26.039 --> 00:14:28.679 and do that. Now, so Lucretia's theory is right, then 236 00:14:29.240 --> 00:14:32.840 states should start, as some have like Tennessee and SCRAMMTI, 237 00:14:33.240 --> 00:14:37.399 start banning these kinds of treatments for people who are 238 00:14:37.399 --> 00:14:40.639 minors and maybe even adults if they're having these kind 239 00:14:40.679 --> 00:14:42.000 of consequences. 240 00:14:42.799 --> 00:14:44.960 And all I'd say Steve is I do agree with 241 00:14:45.000 --> 00:14:48.000 you about waiting to hear about everything, and a lot 242 00:14:48.000 --> 00:14:50.879 of things came out. However, they did have a manifesto, 243 00:14:51.039 --> 00:14:55.759 an online YouTube manifesto, so calling him transgender was not 244 00:14:56.960 --> 00:14:58.919 I mean, I would consider it, of course an insult 245 00:14:59.039 --> 00:15:02.679 or a direcatory his term, but he didn't he you know, 246 00:15:03.039 --> 00:15:06.879 so there is there are things out there that A 247 00:15:07.240 --> 00:15:10.720 could not be suppressed and B I guess you might 248 00:15:10.720 --> 00:15:13.159 even go so far as to say elections have consequences 249 00:15:13.200 --> 00:15:17.919 because we are seeing more transparency now that we have 250 00:15:18.000 --> 00:15:20.600 a different administration in charge of the FBI. 251 00:15:22.039 --> 00:15:24.000 Well, Steve, one other question for you, what do you 252 00:15:24.279 --> 00:15:29.960 make about the demands for tighter gun control. Minnesota. I 253 00:15:29.960 --> 00:15:32.279 would have thought probably already has the tightest gun control 254 00:15:32.360 --> 00:15:35.200 laws you have in the country under our federal system. 255 00:15:35.639 --> 00:15:37.519 Well, I don't know if that the tightest gun control laws, 256 00:15:37.519 --> 00:15:39.480 but they've got some very strict ones apparently I'm no 257 00:15:39.519 --> 00:15:42.759 expert on it, and these guns were all apparently purchased legally. 258 00:15:43.320 --> 00:15:45.240 And so notice by the way they are now calling 259 00:15:45.240 --> 00:15:47.000 for I mean, I've always had this problem in Chicago, 260 00:15:47.120 --> 00:15:49.720 New York, Washington, d C. You very tough handgun control 261 00:15:49.799 --> 00:15:53.559 laws and so forth. So pay attention. They are now 262 00:15:53.600 --> 00:15:56.759 saying we need a national band. They want the federal 263 00:15:56.799 --> 00:16:01.320 government to impose something stronger than the controls we've already got, 264 00:16:01.679 --> 00:16:04.559 because you know, the gun grabbers know that what they've 265 00:16:04.559 --> 00:16:06.840 got now isn't working. I don't think a federal law 266 00:16:06.840 --> 00:16:09.720 would make much difference if it survived a Second Amendment 267 00:16:09.759 --> 00:16:10.879 challenge in the first place. 268 00:16:11.840 --> 00:16:15.480 Here's what I think, where the lucretious argument becomes especially 269 00:16:15.519 --> 00:16:18.720 sneaky is because the left has always wanted to have 270 00:16:19.399 --> 00:16:23.000 mental fitness as a requirement to buy guns. But if 271 00:16:23.000 --> 00:16:27.200 you were to define mental fitness here to exclude people 272 00:16:27.279 --> 00:16:30.679 under transgender medical treatment, which would have prevented this person 273 00:16:30.720 --> 00:16:33.159 from getting the guns, I think the Left would go nuts. 274 00:16:34.399 --> 00:16:36.399 Maybe I don't know that we know that he had 275 00:16:36.440 --> 00:16:39.000 the Your your point is well taken. I'm not sure 276 00:16:39.000 --> 00:16:41.840 in this case that he had guns legally. That has 277 00:16:41.879 --> 00:16:44.320 not been determined as far as I am aware. Maybe 278 00:16:44.360 --> 00:16:45.759 I'm wrong, Steve, you're right. 279 00:16:45.879 --> 00:16:50.360 Well, the news stories say that he's right, but that 280 00:16:50.399 --> 00:16:51.960 doesn't mean the new stories are correct. 281 00:16:52.399 --> 00:16:56.879 Again, So yeah, I mean again, Minnesota's gun laws are 282 00:16:56.919 --> 00:17:03.159 are stronger tough then probably every place other than Chicago 283 00:17:03.200 --> 00:17:07.960 and Washington, d C. Which we'll leave that one alone 284 00:17:08.000 --> 00:17:09.759 for now because it'll come up after the break. 285 00:17:10.640 --> 00:17:13.920 Yes, So Lucretia as always one step ahead of me. 286 00:17:14.319 --> 00:17:16.119 We're going to finish this issue, and we're going to 287 00:17:16.200 --> 00:17:19.319 go to a break, and when we come back, we're 288 00:17:19.359 --> 00:17:26.400 going to turn to the Federal Reserve. Welcome back to everybody, 289 00:17:26.559 --> 00:17:29.440 and now we're going to turn from the Second Amendment 290 00:17:29.720 --> 00:17:34.519 to structural features of the Constitution, namely, what does the 291 00:17:34.559 --> 00:17:38.839 president's executive power mean in terms of his control over 292 00:17:39.279 --> 00:17:42.559 the agencies. This has been brought to the fore by 293 00:17:42.880 --> 00:17:47.480 last week's firing of Lisa Cook, a member a governor 294 00:17:47.559 --> 00:17:51.519 of the Federal Reserve Board. The statue creating the Federal 295 00:17:51.559 --> 00:17:57.240 Reserve says that the president cannot remove governors except quote 296 00:17:57.279 --> 00:18:02.000 unquote for cause. President Trump says that Lisa Cook lied 297 00:18:02.079 --> 00:18:06.559 on two mortgage applications claiming that they were her primary residence. 298 00:18:07.319 --> 00:18:09.039 You're not allowed to do that, you know, I allowed 299 00:18:09.079 --> 00:18:12.559 to say I have two primary residences. Being having a 300 00:18:12.559 --> 00:18:16.599 primary residence gets you more favorable mortgage terms, for example, 301 00:18:16.640 --> 00:18:21.279 lower I think, lower home insurance rates and so on. Now, 302 00:18:21.319 --> 00:18:25.240 she hasn't been charged with this crime, she hasn't been prosecuted, 303 00:18:25.440 --> 00:18:29.720 certainly hasn't been convicted, but she's been referred for prosecution 304 00:18:30.000 --> 00:18:33.559 to the Justice Department by William Poulti, who heads of 305 00:18:33.680 --> 00:18:37.839 I think the Federals called the FAJA the Federal Housing 306 00:18:37.880 --> 00:18:40.599 Authority or something like that, but the federal agency does 307 00:18:40.640 --> 00:18:45.359 in charge of home loan mortgages. Lisa Cook has already 308 00:18:45.440 --> 00:18:49.359 filed a lawsuit in court in her today to say 309 00:18:49.400 --> 00:18:53.000 that her firing would be illegal. The reason this raises 310 00:18:53.039 --> 00:18:56.440 a constitutional question is if the courts agree with her 311 00:18:56.440 --> 00:18:58.880 and say this is not a ground for firing, then 312 00:18:58.920 --> 00:19:04.039 President Trump's firing of Cook would have to be constitutional 313 00:19:04.119 --> 00:19:07.799 under his authority as president to fire at will all 314 00:19:07.880 --> 00:19:13.200 members of the executive branch. One last little tidboot before 315 00:19:13.279 --> 00:19:16.039 we go to Lucretian Steve is over the summer of 316 00:19:16.079 --> 00:19:20.720 the Supreme Court upheld President Trump's firing on a temporary basis, 317 00:19:20.839 --> 00:19:24.720 upheld it of members of the NLRB, and they have 318 00:19:24.759 --> 00:19:28.440 a similar for cost protection requirement. And in that case, 319 00:19:28.480 --> 00:19:31.039 the Supreme Court said, we think that in the end 320 00:19:31.079 --> 00:19:33.799 the president will win on the merits. And then it said, 321 00:19:33.960 --> 00:19:36.559 but it's not the case. This would require the Federal 322 00:19:36.599 --> 00:19:39.319 Reserve and its members to also be under the same 323 00:19:39.359 --> 00:19:43.000 presidential control, because the Federal Reserve is kind of like 324 00:19:43.039 --> 00:19:50.400 the First Bank of the United States, Lucretia's favorite federal institution. So, Lucretia, 325 00:19:50.759 --> 00:19:56.279 what do you think about President Trump? Now you have 326 00:19:56.319 --> 00:19:58.839 to explain the difference to the less motif. 327 00:20:00.160 --> 00:20:02.960 Actually I find this Actually, you know me, when it 328 00:20:03.000 --> 00:20:05.759 comes to this economic stuff, I get bored to death. 329 00:20:05.799 --> 00:20:07.759 But I do think that this is a very interesting 330 00:20:07.799 --> 00:20:10.279 case for a variety of reasons. That reasons I know 331 00:20:10.319 --> 00:20:12.400 you both will agree with me, and that is a 332 00:20:13.079 --> 00:20:15.920 what does this actually mean for the the concept of 333 00:20:15.960 --> 00:20:18.200 the federal whatever the hell it's called now I can't 334 00:20:18.279 --> 00:20:21.440 keep up with. I'll call it the Federal Bank. It's 335 00:20:21.559 --> 00:20:28.920 supposedly more quasi independent status than other quasi independent agencies. 336 00:20:28.960 --> 00:20:31.240 And then the Supreme Court actually called it out as 337 00:20:31.319 --> 00:20:40.039 being more quasi independent. But nevertheless, it is my understanding again, 338 00:20:40.240 --> 00:20:42.519 you guys, I'm going to be a blonde when it 339 00:20:42.519 --> 00:20:46.000 comes to this, but it has an incredibly important role 340 00:20:46.720 --> 00:20:50.839 in the execution of the federal government's policies regarding the economy. 341 00:20:50.880 --> 00:20:53.759 That's the simplest way to put it from me from 342 00:20:53.799 --> 00:20:57.880 the blonde. Okay, why is the president not fully in 343 00:20:58.000 --> 00:21:00.519 charge of that? Why is the presid Is it not 344 00:21:00.640 --> 00:21:04.119 the person who gets to decide not just what those policies, 345 00:21:04.160 --> 00:21:07.440 but the people entirely? If he wanted to fire the 346 00:21:07.599 --> 00:21:12.359 entire board, I believe that under a executive power unless 347 00:21:12.400 --> 00:21:15.079 you can explain to me, and I imagine that our 348 00:21:15.119 --> 00:21:17.759 listeners would love to hear this too. A reason why 349 00:21:17.839 --> 00:21:24.039 somehow the federal Reserve Board should be exempt when executing 350 00:21:24.200 --> 00:21:29.160 executive powers from the article to requirement that it be 351 00:21:29.319 --> 00:21:32.640 executed by one person, and so all of those things 352 00:21:32.680 --> 00:21:33.440 make it interesting. 353 00:21:34.400 --> 00:21:37.759 Let me jump in and back to Steve. Is what 354 00:21:38.519 --> 00:21:42.400 you say, John, my expertise and channeling of the left. 355 00:21:42.680 --> 00:21:45.599 So there's they would make two arguments. One is sort 356 00:21:45.599 --> 00:21:48.079 of just a policy argument. One is a constitution arm 357 00:21:48.200 --> 00:21:52.440 The policy argument is everybody knows you don't want politicians 358 00:21:52.440 --> 00:21:55.440 to control the interest rate. The study I think this 359 00:21:55.599 --> 00:21:59.640 is fairly agreat on. The study show that presidents always 360 00:21:59.680 --> 00:22:02.359 want the interest rates to be lowered right before their 361 00:22:02.400 --> 00:22:05.039 reelection campaigns to juice the economy. 362 00:22:05.119 --> 00:22:05.559 Done. 363 00:22:06.160 --> 00:22:09.640 Yeah, which is done Even with these protections. The short 364 00:22:09.720 --> 00:22:14.640 term gain for the politicians is outweighed by the long 365 00:22:14.720 --> 00:22:16.880 term harm to the economy when we vow that to happen. 366 00:22:16.920 --> 00:22:19.119 That's the policy argument. So they would just say everybody 367 00:22:19.200 --> 00:22:22.480 agrees we should have central bank independence. A more interesting 368 00:22:22.559 --> 00:22:27.640 constitutional argument goes back to well, the founders seem to 369 00:22:27.680 --> 00:22:30.079 think the Bank of the United States back in seventeen 370 00:22:30.160 --> 00:22:35.359 eighty nine was constitutional, So why isn't this bank constitutional too? 371 00:22:35.759 --> 00:22:39.880 They allowed the creation of this weird creature back you 372 00:22:39.880 --> 00:22:42.200 know at the time of the founding shows that the 373 00:22:42.279 --> 00:22:44.240 founders might have had a more flexible view of the 374 00:22:44.240 --> 00:22:49.160 separation of powers in the executive than we do today. Steve, 375 00:22:49.519 --> 00:22:53.519 you're a great lover of central bank independence. You're a 376 00:22:53.519 --> 00:22:57.559 big defender of Paul Volker and Reagan in your book. 377 00:22:58.039 --> 00:23:02.759 We see. Yeah, However, I may bring it away. 378 00:23:03.480 --> 00:23:05.480 Let's let's go about a slightly different way. I do 379 00:23:05.519 --> 00:23:08.720 think that the argument for an independent central bank, if 380 00:23:08.720 --> 00:23:10.839 we're going to have one at all, is good in 381 00:23:10.920 --> 00:23:15.640 the abstract. The hypocrisy here is the is the left saying, oh, 382 00:23:15.759 --> 00:23:18.240 Trump's trying to politicize the Federal Reserve and make it 383 00:23:18.279 --> 00:23:21.279 bend to his political will. I am sorry, That's what 384 00:23:21.400 --> 00:23:24.200 the left has been doing forever by expanding the mandate 385 00:23:24.279 --> 00:23:26.519 of the Federal Reserve, like the Humphrey Hawkins Act in 386 00:23:26.559 --> 00:23:29.400 the seventies. And in the particular case of the appointment 387 00:23:29.440 --> 00:23:31.519 of Lisa Cook. Let's just go back from it and 388 00:23:31.559 --> 00:23:35.000 remember why she was appointed, because. 389 00:23:34.640 --> 00:23:39.279 Before she was a brilliant economist. Anything else, you racist. 390 00:23:39.160 --> 00:23:42.680 Hold on a minute, because you're where everyone is forgetting 391 00:23:42.720 --> 00:23:45.759 that she was appointed after I think this is right 392 00:23:45.839 --> 00:23:50.359 after Biden's first nominee was rejected by the democratically controlled Senate. 393 00:23:50.359 --> 00:23:53.039 There was that Sarah Bloom Rascin, woman who's married to 394 00:23:53.119 --> 00:23:57.480 Jamie Raskin, whose father, Marcus Raskin, was a Castro loving Communist. 395 00:23:57.720 --> 00:23:59.559 What did she want to do? She said, I want 396 00:23:59.559 --> 00:24:02.440 to go on a reserve and argue that because we 397 00:24:02.519 --> 00:24:04.440 need to fight climate change, we want to cut off 398 00:24:04.440 --> 00:24:08.279 oil companies from access to federal reserve and other banking facilities. 399 00:24:08.319 --> 00:24:10.240 Oh and by the way, the big banks that are 400 00:24:10.279 --> 00:24:11.759 going along with this, we're going to be tough on 401 00:24:11.799 --> 00:24:15.200