WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:04.040 Objective logic and reason side in an overabundance of woke 2 00:00:04.080 --> 00:00:07.480 philosophy that is irrational, is made up day by day 3 00:00:07.519 --> 00:00:10.279 as people are like I think we should bring racism back, 4 00:00:10.320 --> 00:00:12.640 and then here's a justification, and then it gets woke 5 00:00:12.640 --> 00:00:15.119 afied and spread out, and then all of a sudden 6 00:00:15.160 --> 00:00:18.039 you have a bunch of communist socialist ideas where you 7 00:00:18.160 --> 00:00:20.719 become the property in action. You need to be able 8 00:00:20.719 --> 00:00:22.760 to stand on your own ground. It helps to have 9 00:00:23.440 --> 00:00:26.399 a foundation in philosophy because it's a method to fine 10 00:00:26.399 --> 00:00:28.800 truth when you get down to it. Philosophy is there 11 00:00:29.039 --> 00:00:31.559 because you love truth enough to go and learn how 12 00:00:31.559 --> 00:00:35.039 to find it, because it's valuable. So if you're interested 13 00:00:35.079 --> 00:00:37.920 in things like that. There is the landing page. We'll 14 00:00:37.960 --> 00:00:40.679 link it up in the notes. It is a longer once, 15 00:00:40.719 --> 00:00:43.159 so we'll get a shorter URL for this. I'm sure 16 00:00:43.240 --> 00:00:45.119 Jay has a link on his page. I just wanted 17 00:00:45.119 --> 00:00:46.520 to show it off. Now you know what exists, you 18 00:00:46.520 --> 00:00:49.079 can go look for it and see why this is 19 00:00:49.119 --> 00:00:50.600 not your father's philosophy. 20 00:00:51.000 --> 00:00:53.200 Right, So well done. 21 00:00:53.359 --> 00:00:56.119 I'm proud of everyone who helped to produce and edit 22 00:00:56.119 --> 00:00:58.520 the course, and of course Jay did a flawless job 23 00:00:58.920 --> 00:01:02.799 in presenting the course over those twelve weeks, and he's 24 00:01:02.840 --> 00:01:05.400 a juggernaut. He's another guy just like John Bush, in 25 00:01:05.560 --> 00:01:08.799 action all the time, doing something productive, like very little 26 00:01:08.840 --> 00:01:11.599 wasted time in his week, those one hundred and sixty 27 00:01:11.599 --> 00:01:14.280 eight hours of being harnessed very well. I want to 28 00:01:14.319 --> 00:01:16.760 show off something that we're all proud of. I've got 29 00:01:16.799 --> 00:01:22.079 a browser here. This is Jay Dyers, much vaunted, much 30 00:01:22.159 --> 00:01:26.200 sought after philosophy one oh one. Now he just got 31 00:01:26.200 --> 00:01:28.319 this page up. We are just testing it out. You 32 00:01:28.359 --> 00:01:29.760 guys are some of the first people in the world 33 00:01:29.760 --> 00:01:32.200 to see it. I want to say, for my part, 34 00:01:32.359 --> 00:01:33.920 it's not philosophy want oh one. 35 00:01:34.040 --> 00:01:35.719 I think this is as mistitling. 36 00:01:36.159 --> 00:01:39.920 I really think is as like philosophy unleashed because a 37 00:01:39.920 --> 00:01:42.400 philosophy want on one course, they give you kind of 38 00:01:42.439 --> 00:01:45.280 some useless information that you can't make sense of. Jay 39 00:01:45.359 --> 00:01:48.879 actually lays out, over twelve weeks, dozens and dozens of 40 00:01:48.920 --> 00:01:51.879 hours put into just the presentation of this let alone 41 00:01:51.879 --> 00:01:54.120 the hundreds and thousands of hours of research that it 42 00:01:54.159 --> 00:01:57.840 takes to have a coherent evolution and history of the 43 00:01:57.879 --> 00:02:00.959 origins of philosophy, the uses of philosophy, the different ways 44 00:02:01.000 --> 00:02:03.840 to look at it over time and how that has 45 00:02:04.519 --> 00:02:07.079 been brought about to what we have today, which is 46 00:02:07.319 --> 00:02:11.479 almost an absence of philosophy on the objective, logic and 47 00:02:11.520 --> 00:02:15.599 reason side, in an overabundance of woke philosophy that is 48 00:02:15.599 --> 00:02:18.120 irrational is made up day by day as people are 49 00:02:18.159 --> 00:02:20.599 like I think we should bring racism back, and then 50 00:02:20.639 --> 00:02:24.039 here's the justification, and then it gets wokeified and spread out, 51 00:02:24.360 --> 00:02:25.719 and then all of a sudden you have a bunch 52 00:02:25.759 --> 00:02:29.520 of communist socialist ideas where you become the property in action. 53 00:02:30.120 --> 00:02:31.719 You need to be able to stand on your own ground. 54 00:02:31.960 --> 00:02:35.759 It helps to have a foundation in philosophy because it's 55 00:02:35.759 --> 00:02:37.800 a method to fine truth when you get down to it. 56 00:02:37.840 --> 00:02:41.039 Philosophy is there because you love truth enough to go 57 00:02:41.080 --> 00:02:43.960 and learn how to find it, because it's valuable. So 58 00:02:44.319 --> 00:02:47.120 if you're interested in things like that. There is the 59 00:02:47.199 --> 00:02:49.479 landing page. We'll link it up in the notes. It 60 00:02:49.560 --> 00:02:52.639 is a longer once, so we'll get a shorter URL 61 00:02:52.680 --> 00:02:54.599 for this. I'm sure Jay has a link on his page. 62 00:02:54.680 --> 00:02:56.000 I just wanted to show it off. Now you know 63 00:02:56.039 --> 00:02:58.439 what exists, you can go look for it and see 64 00:02:58.599 --> 00:03:04.560 why this is not your father's philosophy. Right, I want 65 00:03:04.560 --> 00:03:06.960 to show off something that we're all proud of. I've 66 00:03:06.960 --> 00:03:07.800 got a browser here. 67 00:03:11.199 --> 00:03:14.879 Welcome everybody. You may not recognize this man, but you 68 00:03:15.000 --> 00:03:19.719 may only an edva like myself could pull in other 69 00:03:20.120 --> 00:03:24.280 celebrity e divas, ladies and gentlemen. Neil from dirt Port Robins. 70 00:03:24.319 --> 00:03:24.879 Welcome Neil. 71 00:03:25.000 --> 00:03:26.639 Well, so good to be here. I watch it so 72 00:03:26.639 --> 00:03:28.599 many times in the stream. I just want to touch this. 73 00:03:28.840 --> 00:03:31.039 Yes, I'm actually here now. Yeah. Cool. 74 00:03:31.719 --> 00:03:34.080 So it's uh, you know, it's kind of a relicive. 75 00:03:34.599 --> 00:03:34.879 What's that? 76 00:03:36.120 --> 00:03:36.520 I was? 77 00:03:36.800 --> 00:03:36.919 Right? 78 00:03:37.159 --> 00:03:37.319 Yeah? 79 00:03:37.439 --> 00:03:40.680 No, Hey, I feel like did I maybe hint at 80 00:03:40.719 --> 00:03:44.719 this via text when we were chatting earlier? 81 00:03:44.879 --> 00:03:45.280 Oh I did? 82 00:03:45.360 --> 00:03:48.599 I didn't know. I just I went into my news 83 00:03:48.879 --> 00:03:50.840 and I spoke to the Lord, and the Lord told 84 00:03:50.919 --> 00:03:52.520 me that Neil's coming. 85 00:03:52.960 --> 00:03:55.560 Yeah yeah, okay, okay. I call that the librarium. 86 00:03:55.599 --> 00:03:57.520 I tell my wife when I like want her to 87 00:03:57.520 --> 00:04:00.000 do something for me, that I found it in my librarium, 88 00:04:00.080 --> 00:04:02.039 which is like a secret spot. I have access to 89 00:04:02.080 --> 00:04:04.840 true information that I can't know otherwise. So yeah, it's 90 00:04:04.840 --> 00:04:07.879 a similar thing. You could say news. I say librarium, 91 00:04:07.919 --> 00:04:12.840 mind palace, mind palace, mind palace, Mine, Cathedral. 92 00:04:13.199 --> 00:04:17.439 So, guys, we have with us the excellent musician and 93 00:04:17.600 --> 00:04:20.639 as I said, also excellent Orthodox thinker. In fact, I 94 00:04:20.680 --> 00:04:23.759 listened to the Jason Myron Chuck podcast the other day 95 00:04:24.160 --> 00:04:30.240 and Jim Bob and Jim Jatras and Neil and John 96 00:04:30.439 --> 00:04:33.319 Here's John here is not to excuse me. Yes, it 97 00:04:33.399 --> 00:04:35.560 was a great discussion, and I was really impressed with 98 00:04:36.120 --> 00:04:39.040 Neil's answers to a lot of the topics and questions 99 00:04:39.079 --> 00:04:41.959 that came. So Neil is with us today, and if 100 00:04:41.959 --> 00:04:44.560 you have questions or concerns or issues, we're both going 101 00:04:44.639 --> 00:04:47.319 to be answering or Orthodox questions or other types of 102 00:04:47.399 --> 00:04:51.319 questions as well. Whatever Neil feels comfortable discussing, he may 103 00:04:51.360 --> 00:04:52.639 not be comfortable discussing. 104 00:04:52.959 --> 00:04:55.360 I'll discuss anything today, Jay for you. I'm already on 105 00:04:55.399 --> 00:04:57.879 your channel, and so you discuss everything. 106 00:04:57.920 --> 00:04:58.720 I'll just roll with you. 107 00:04:58.839 --> 00:04:59.319 Well we had it. 108 00:04:59.360 --> 00:05:01.439 We might play good cop, bad cop or something like that. 109 00:05:01.439 --> 00:05:04.399 That's a good way to do it. Because Neil once 110 00:05:04.439 --> 00:05:06.680 thought I was mean, and then we went to dinner 111 00:05:06.720 --> 00:05:08.560 and he came away and decided I'm not. 112 00:05:09.120 --> 00:05:13.399 Actually I figured it out before, so I was I 113 00:05:13.399 --> 00:05:15.079 didn't think you were mean. I was told you were 114 00:05:15.120 --> 00:05:18.839 mean by many people, And then I watched your show 115 00:05:18.879 --> 00:05:20.600 and I was like, this is kind of awesome. I 116 00:05:20.600 --> 00:05:23.199 think they're wrong, but I also kind of like there's 117 00:05:23.240 --> 00:05:24.720 a lot of utility in mean right now. 118 00:05:24.879 --> 00:05:26.959 We can get into that later maybe because that's. 119 00:05:26.800 --> 00:05:28.879 Actually a good question though, before we get off, I'm 120 00:05:28.879 --> 00:05:31.600 gonna ask you that question first. So why would you 121 00:05:31.600 --> 00:05:35.600 say there's some utility in being mean at this juncture? 122 00:05:35.600 --> 00:05:38.120 At this stage, Like, shouldn't we just always be cow 123 00:05:38.199 --> 00:05:39.879 towing and just sort of having that. 124 00:05:40.120 --> 00:05:41.199 Yes, always couch shit. 125 00:05:41.199 --> 00:05:43.879 Shouldn't we always just be mats that are walked on? 126 00:05:44.160 --> 00:05:45.959 Oh my gosh, didn't that get us in this mess 127 00:05:46.000 --> 00:05:46.319 we're in? 128 00:05:46.399 --> 00:05:49.360 So I mean, so there's all these agreeable people out 129 00:05:49.399 --> 00:05:52.160 in the world, And then I think in Western Christianity 130 00:05:52.199 --> 00:05:54.759 there's there's a lot more pressure to be nice because 131 00:05:55.600 --> 00:05:56.319 of your witness. 132 00:05:56.399 --> 00:05:57.279 In other words, you. 133 00:05:57.199 --> 00:06:00.439 Are saved, and now the thing you do is you 134 00:06:00.439 --> 00:06:02.199 show your witness, So you clean up your act, you 135 00:06:02.199 --> 00:06:04.759 stop smoking, you stop swearing, you stop those kind of things. 136 00:06:05.199 --> 00:06:08.160 Well, also, if people don't like to hurt people's feelings. 137 00:06:07.759 --> 00:06:10.800 We got this kind of moral therapeutic vibe going on 138 00:06:10.839 --> 00:06:13.120 in a world where we're pickling in this pickle jar 139 00:06:13.279 --> 00:06:17.439 that is of you know, political correctness. And so what's 140 00:06:17.480 --> 00:06:20.680 happened is me, I'm not necessarily the most upfront, aggressive 141 00:06:20.959 --> 00:06:23.800 style of person. I'd rather take a you know, a 142 00:06:23.839 --> 00:06:28.000 more persuasive road instead of going at something directly because 143 00:06:28.000 --> 00:06:30.319 it's important to me, like the person knows I love them, 144 00:06:30.360 --> 00:06:33.160 but at the same time, like nice and love are 145 00:06:33.199 --> 00:06:36.600 not equal, helpful and love can be equal. So what 146 00:06:36.680 --> 00:06:38.600 I've found is I wasn't the person to do it, 147 00:06:38.600 --> 00:06:40.519 but people like you were more than I was in 148 00:06:40.560 --> 00:06:43.079 the sense that we got back. By twenty sixteen twenty seventeen, 149 00:06:43.120 --> 00:06:45.040 we were backed into such a corner we couldn't talk 150 00:06:45.079 --> 00:06:46.360 about anything anymore. 151 00:06:46.680 --> 00:06:47.759 Like it just the. 152 00:06:47.680 --> 00:06:52.360 Most common sense, scientific realities were unsayable because it hurt 153 00:06:52.399 --> 00:06:55.000 someone's feelings. Now I get where these people are coming from, 154 00:06:55.040 --> 00:06:58.160 and I get why this was happening, But you know, 155 00:06:58.240 --> 00:07:00.319 to the average person on the street, they thought they 156 00:07:00.319 --> 00:07:01.879 were trying to find their purpose and trying to find 157 00:07:01.920 --> 00:07:02.279 their meaning. 158 00:07:02.319 --> 00:07:04.160 To the politicians, they're just trying to get votes. 159 00:07:04.480 --> 00:07:07.079 And so I was always really concerned because you know, 160 00:07:07.519 --> 00:07:10.079 people are being manipulated and their desires are being manipulated, 161 00:07:10.079 --> 00:07:13.759 and their narratives being manipulated for the purpose of getting 162 00:07:13.800 --> 00:07:16.759 them to vote a certain way. So what had happened 163 00:07:16.920 --> 00:07:19.160 is they had pushed the things we needed to talk 164 00:07:19.160 --> 00:07:21.879 about behind a paywall of offense. And I'm not the 165 00:07:21.879 --> 00:07:23.279 guy to do it. I'm not going to go out 166 00:07:23.319 --> 00:07:26.680 there and just offend everyone and create rooms. So what 167 00:07:26.800 --> 00:07:29.120 I noticed is that people were complaining about you and 168 00:07:29.160 --> 00:07:31.160 some work that other people were doing. Won't even bring 169 00:07:31.160 --> 00:07:34.240 them up right now, and that was the problem. It 170 00:07:34.279 --> 00:07:36.240 wasn't the problem wasn't what they were talking about. It 171 00:07:36.279 --> 00:07:38.160 wasn't what they were saying, It was how they were 172 00:07:38.199 --> 00:07:40.560 saying it, and they thought they were being mean. And 173 00:07:40.759 --> 00:07:43.720 the thing I realized when I was watching, I was like, oh, man, like, 174 00:07:43.720 --> 00:07:46.839 we actually we need people because we got pushed into 175 00:07:46.839 --> 00:07:49.079 a corner so far and we're behind this paywall of 176 00:07:49.079 --> 00:07:51.319 offense and now you can't say if you're unwilling to 177 00:07:51.319 --> 00:07:53.600 offend people, you can't talk about certain things. And so 178 00:07:54.079 --> 00:07:56.120 I think the content creators that are doing that are 179 00:07:56.160 --> 00:07:59.680 actually creating space for the nice people who are complaining 180 00:07:59.680 --> 00:08:01.079 about it that they're going to baskin. 181 00:08:01.439 --> 00:08:03.120 You're creating a beachhead. 182 00:08:02.839 --> 00:08:04.879 Where people are going to come along who are like, oh, like, 183 00:08:04.920 --> 00:08:06.160 we want to play nice, we want to play an 184 00:08:06.279 --> 00:08:07.680 they're going to get to do it. You know, they're 185 00:08:07.680 --> 00:08:09.199 going to get to do it. But because other people 186 00:08:09.199 --> 00:08:11.279 went out and did the work and ran through the 187 00:08:11.279 --> 00:08:13.639 briers for them in the barbed wire. So that's my 188 00:08:13.720 --> 00:08:14.199 take on it. 189 00:08:14.319 --> 00:08:17.600 Yeah, I feel that way with how could I put 190 00:08:17.639 --> 00:08:20.199 it the way that certain comedians in the last five 191 00:08:20.279 --> 00:08:23.920 years pioneered saying a lot of things that you're not 192 00:08:23.959 --> 00:08:27.519 supposed to say. Words you can't say the hard R 193 00:08:27.680 --> 00:08:30.600 for example, and then that kind of freeing things up, 194 00:08:31.199 --> 00:08:33.840 and the comedians took a lot of hits, a lot 195 00:08:33.840 --> 00:08:35.600 of flak for doing that, but I think in the 196 00:08:35.639 --> 00:08:38.440 long run that was a good thing. Let's read a 197 00:08:38.480 --> 00:08:40.679 couple of super chats here because they're piling up and 198 00:08:40.759 --> 00:08:43.000 I want to be fair to everyone. 199 00:08:43.120 --> 00:08:46.840 Jesse Lee Peers and fans said for two dollars, would 200 00:08:46.879 --> 00:08:49.759 you ever go one Lee Peers some podcast or fall 201 00:08:49.840 --> 00:08:52.519 in the state only if he had missed a women 202 00:08:52.600 --> 00:08:53.720 and the Geisha Hill. 203 00:08:55.720 --> 00:08:57.440 There's even understand what you just said? What was that? 204 00:08:57.559 --> 00:09:01.000 Jesse Lee Pearson says that women are the gates of hell. 205 00:09:01.480 --> 00:09:02.000 Interesting. 206 00:09:02.039 --> 00:09:05.360 I have a song called Welcome to Lady Hell, which 207 00:09:05.399 --> 00:09:08.720 is it's actually it's a description of like what the 208 00:09:08.759 --> 00:09:10.159 life women would want the least. 209 00:09:10.440 --> 00:09:11.639 Okay, so you got to listen to it. 210 00:09:11.679 --> 00:09:13.440 You can go find that song. It's not really like 211 00:09:13.440 --> 00:09:16.519 a roast on feminism. It's it's more like it takes. 212 00:09:16.320 --> 00:09:17.159 Place in the musical. 213 00:09:17.200 --> 00:09:19.840 But the funny thing about that is that Jordan Peterson, 214 00:09:20.159 --> 00:09:22.200 like his name sounds like Jordan, that was like his 215 00:09:22.240 --> 00:09:24.759 favorite song by yeah. Yeah, So he had his come 216 00:09:24.840 --> 00:09:26.519 and play this song live. But we had to kind 217 00:09:26.559 --> 00:09:29.159 of explained it beforehand because we were writing musicals and stories. 218 00:09:29.159 --> 00:09:30.799 So like a lot of the songs if you just 219 00:09:30.840 --> 00:09:32.840 listen to the songs from the perspective of a villain. 220 00:09:33.360 --> 00:09:36.679 But he liked all the villain songs apparently, so oh yeah, well. 221 00:09:36.519 --> 00:09:41.279 There we go, there we go. Yeah. So Jesse Lee Peterson, 222 00:09:41.360 --> 00:09:45.600 for those that don't know, is the sort of cantankerous 223 00:09:45.679 --> 00:09:52.039 and hilarious black guy commentator that he's definitely an oddball. 224 00:09:52.159 --> 00:09:54.679 He is an arian, so he has his own made 225 00:09:54.759 --> 00:09:57.720 up church that I don't care for. He did have 226 00:09:57.759 --> 00:10:01.399 some really funny podcasts though, with you know, sort of 227 00:10:01.519 --> 00:10:03.840 three oh four type figures that he calls out those 228 00:10:03.840 --> 00:10:06.720 are very entertaining. The Jamie Kennedy podcast is one of 229 00:10:06.759 --> 00:10:10.360 the funniest that he did because he told Jamie Kennedy 230 00:10:10.440 --> 00:10:12.679 to create his own laughing club, which I thought was 231 00:10:12.720 --> 00:10:15.559 really funny for a comedian. But I don't know if 232 00:10:15.600 --> 00:10:17.279 I would. I don't think he would have me on. 233 00:10:17.360 --> 00:10:18.759 I know people have been asking him for a long 234 00:10:18.799 --> 00:10:20.159 time to have me on. I don't know if he would, 235 00:10:20.919 --> 00:10:22.840 but I mean maybe if I started an only fans 236 00:10:22.879 --> 00:10:24.559 he would because then you can get on there pretty 237 00:10:24.559 --> 00:10:28.000 easily for you. But James caton three dollars, why do 238 00:10:28.200 --> 00:10:31.960 bishops a few bishops rebuke those that want to join 239 00:10:32.080 --> 00:10:36.840 the ecumenist movement? Well, rokor has still as its policy 240 00:10:36.919 --> 00:10:40.279 the early eighties statement against Ecumenism, so it is part 241 00:10:40.360 --> 00:10:46.320 of our sort of officialists ish statement. There's a lot 242 00:10:46.320 --> 00:10:50.000 of pressure amongst other jurisdictions to go along with this, 243 00:10:50.320 --> 00:10:54.559 so it's a very nuanced, challenging question. And also probably 244 00:10:54.600 --> 00:10:59.399 they want to that. I think that Orthodox bishops, I'm guessing, 245 00:10:59.799 --> 00:11:02.519 view that as kind of the last resort to public 246 00:11:02.720 --> 00:11:07.639 rebuke stuff. But we will probably get to that. Feel 247 00:11:07.679 --> 00:11:09.519 free to jump in on any comment that you want 248 00:11:09.559 --> 00:11:10.039 to jump. 249 00:11:09.879 --> 00:11:11.519 In on humanism sucks. 250 00:11:11.840 --> 00:11:16.200 You know, water malonious seven dollars. You didn't do nothing, 251 00:11:16.200 --> 00:11:20.960 but you invited on. You should invite on Brother Nathaniel 252 00:11:20.960 --> 00:11:25.679 and quash the beef. He is misguided, but he's good faith. Well, honestly, 253 00:11:25.720 --> 00:11:28.480 I just don't think it's worth having that conversation because 254 00:11:28.519 --> 00:11:30.960 I never talked about him or had any interaction and 255 00:11:31.000 --> 00:11:32.879 he just decided to kind of go after me for 256 00:11:32.919 --> 00:11:35.519 no reason. So and again I think that if you're 257 00:11:35.519 --> 00:11:38.720 an Orthodox quote monastic for twenty years, but you don't 258 00:11:38.759 --> 00:11:41.039 know what theosis is to me, that calls everything to 259 00:11:41.120 --> 00:11:46.840 question Orthodox streamer ten dollars. About the Holy Fire, there's 260 00:11:46.840 --> 00:11:54.320 a journalist's named Demetrius Ali Kakos, and there's an archbishop Isidorus, 261 00:11:54.399 --> 00:11:56.519 and they said the Holy Fire is not a miracle 262 00:11:56.559 --> 00:11:59.879 that they all create it. I've seen these videos from 263 00:11:59.879 --> 00:12:02.960 me years. I've never been to the event. But I 264 00:12:02.960 --> 00:12:05.879 also don't make a huge apologetic argument on the basis 265 00:12:05.919 --> 00:12:09.120 of the Holy Fire. So I've left that up in 266 00:12:09.159 --> 00:12:11.120 the air. Father Deacon, do you have any comments on that? 267 00:12:11.159 --> 00:12:13.000 What would you say to somebody who said, oh, this 268 00:12:13.080 --> 00:12:19.080 has been deblooked by a Greek journalist. I would like 269 00:12:19.120 --> 00:12:22.279 to see it. Well, the video, he says, Go watch 270 00:12:22.279 --> 00:12:24.399 the video. It's on YouTube. It's called light I light 271 00:12:24.440 --> 00:12:27.799 the Holy Fire. So apparently they've found the guy who 272 00:12:27.840 --> 00:12:28.840 does it. I supposedly. 273 00:12:29.480 --> 00:12:31.120 Nice about time they found him. 274 00:12:32.080 --> 00:12:36.919 I mean, our faith doesn't hinge on on one miracle, 275 00:12:37.480 --> 00:12:40.200 so I mean it's a I doubt I doubt they have. 276 00:12:41.360 --> 00:12:45.960 And there's all kinds of miracles associated around it too, 277 00:12:47.720 --> 00:12:52.039 so I mean you'd have to go through each one 278 00:12:52.080 --> 00:12:56.039 of those and throughout the entire history of so like 279 00:12:56.080 --> 00:12:56.559 good luck. 280 00:12:57.519 --> 00:12:59.879 You also think that this is a mistake that people 281 00:13:00.080 --> 00:13:03.639 do where they make the argument about this or that miracle, 282 00:13:03.639 --> 00:13:06.519 and if you can debunk that miracle then or prove 283 00:13:06.559 --> 00:13:08.519 it to be the case supposedly, oh well, then that 284 00:13:08.559 --> 00:13:09.320 proves the religion. 285 00:13:09.399 --> 00:13:09.519 Right. 286 00:13:09.519 --> 00:13:11.159 We hear this from a Roman Catholics all the time, 287 00:13:11.279 --> 00:13:13.960 all the miracles of the saints. This proves the Romancalolic position. 288 00:13:14.600 --> 00:13:16.559 And then when we find the same types of claims 289 00:13:16.600 --> 00:13:19.399 amongst the Coptics, like zy Tune in Egypt where Mary 290 00:13:19.399 --> 00:13:22.360 appears supposedly, oh well that doesn't count. That doesn't prove 291 00:13:22.399 --> 00:13:25.639 Coptic stuff, because well it's only the Roman Catholic apparitions 292 00:13:25.679 --> 00:13:28.759 that count, so the goalposts end up moving. And that's 293 00:13:28.799 --> 00:13:31.159 why I don't really ever make that kind of stuff 294 00:13:31.360 --> 00:13:34.279 the definitive proof. I think there will be miracles that 295 00:13:34.720 --> 00:13:36.919 accompany the true faith, but they can't be kind of 296 00:13:36.960 --> 00:13:39.720 the thing that you pivot on to prove or disprove it. 297 00:13:40.639 --> 00:13:43.320 Great question, though, Let's see William Santos five dollars a day? 298 00:13:43.600 --> 00:13:44.960 Do you think I can ask it? By the way, 299 00:13:45.000 --> 00:13:47.200 we're gonna ask you questions. I apologize, We're not trying. 300 00:13:47.039 --> 00:13:48.600 To just no, I'm hanging out. This is great. 301 00:13:48.639 --> 00:13:50.000 We're gonna start asking you questions. 302 00:13:50.080 --> 00:13:52.080 This is the closest seat I ever had for your stream. 303 00:13:52.159 --> 00:13:55.759 We're gonna grill you in a moment. Okay, William Santos, 304 00:13:55.759 --> 00:13:59.679 Can I ask questions about our realism on discord? That's 305 00:13:59.679 --> 00:14:02.120 probably a safer route for that topic. We can't really 306 00:14:02.120 --> 00:14:05.080 do that on YouTube, it won't work. What about IQ 307 00:14:05.279 --> 00:14:08.519 and behavior and yeah, we'll get into that on discord. 308 00:14:08.559 --> 00:14:10.679 We can't really do that here. As you guys know, 309 00:14:11.600 --> 00:14:15.440 things are still very limited. Elijah Safer went on Jimmy 310 00:14:15.440 --> 00:14:17.559 Dore or you saw him on there, and he's wearing 311 00:14:17.679 --> 00:14:20.919 Orthodox cross. I assume he's becoming Orthodox, Well, I don't 312 00:14:20.960 --> 00:14:24.519 know that he is, but he's definitely ask a lot 313 00:14:24.519 --> 00:14:27.279 of questions to me, a lot of Orthodox priests he's 314 00:14:27.320 --> 00:14:33.519 talked to, so he's definitely interested. Probably counts as an inquirer. 315 00:14:33.559 --> 00:14:36.879 I don't think he's become a Catechuman, but definitely pray 316 00:14:36.919 --> 00:14:39.440 for Elijah Shaffer. We'd like to see him become Orthodox. 317 00:14:39.519 --> 00:14:43.759 Kyle is Canada cooked. I mean people ask me the 318 00:14:43.799 --> 00:14:45.360 same thing about the UK, like what do we do 319 00:14:45.360 --> 00:14:46.960 about the UK? What do we do? I don't know, 320 00:14:47.080 --> 00:14:50.000 I don't know what to do. What do you think? 321 00:14:50.039 --> 00:14:50.960 What do we do well? 322 00:14:50.960 --> 00:14:51.519 If Canada? 323 00:14:51.600 --> 00:14:54.240 Like if you start smelling a fresh pine scent in 324 00:14:54.279 --> 00:14:58.080 the air, that's probably Canada is cooked. And I've noticed that. 325 00:14:58.159 --> 00:15:00.519 So I talked about this with Jonathan Pajel over the 326 00:15:00.559 --> 00:15:03.240 weekend because this is this is where he lives, and 327 00:15:03.240 --> 00:15:05.000 I'm always trying to get him out. I'm like, man, 328 00:15:05.000 --> 00:15:09.039 we've got this special talents visa and green card and 329 00:15:09.120 --> 00:15:11.360 citizenship path. It's pretty easy to do. It takes about 330 00:15:11.360 --> 00:15:14.879 three or four years. He would totally qualify for it. 331 00:15:14.879 --> 00:15:16.679 It's just a matter. I mean, if I was there. 332 00:15:16.759 --> 00:15:18.679 So I've been in the same kind of position before 333 00:15:18.720 --> 00:15:21.559 in my life, like even during COVID, my state lockdown 334 00:15:21.679 --> 00:15:23.320 so hard and we're nomads. 335 00:15:23.360 --> 00:15:24.960 In other words, I make all my music with my band. 336 00:15:25.000 --> 00:15:26.879 I can live anywhere. We just sold our houses and 337 00:15:26.879 --> 00:15:29.039 moved to Florida. That was like the solution for it. 338 00:15:29.159 --> 00:15:32.759 So I think that people it depends, Like I mean, 339 00:15:32.799 --> 00:15:35.120 I don't know where God wants people, you know, whatever 340 00:15:35.159 --> 00:15:35.720 they're called to. 341 00:15:35.759 --> 00:15:36.200 Who knows. 342 00:15:36.240 --> 00:15:39.320 You can imagine that there's going to be some countries 343 00:15:39.360 --> 00:15:41.039 that that people are going to be left in that 344 00:15:41.039 --> 00:15:44.120 are too bad for you know, some godly mission. But 345 00:15:44.200 --> 00:15:46.039 outside of that, I mean, vote with your feet. Go 346 00:15:46.039 --> 00:15:47.480 where you're going to be treated well if you can 347 00:15:47.519 --> 00:15:50.320 afford to. So if you're in Canada, like you can 348 00:15:50.360 --> 00:15:51.399 get here, I would get here. 349 00:15:52.519 --> 00:15:54.720 That's actually a really good idea. I mean I know 350 00:15:54.759 --> 00:15:57.000 some people I won't say their names, but they also 351 00:15:57.120 --> 00:16:01.600 left their babyan socialist country to come to the US 352 00:16:01.759 --> 00:16:07.600 as well. Ortho Anglo Crow at twenty five dollars. Here's 353 00:16:07.639 --> 00:16:11.080 a book recommendation, The Master and Emissary Divided Brain in 354 00:16:11.120 --> 00:16:14.559 the Making of the Western World by Ian McGilchrist. It 355 00:16:14.639 --> 00:16:16.960 compliments a lot of what Father again and I springs 356 00:16:17.039 --> 00:16:21.799 up about left brain traps and ties in with Pageo's work. 357 00:16:21.960 --> 00:16:25.840 It's a recommended audio book. The first half is a 358 00:16:25.960 --> 00:16:27.039 very heavy lift. 359 00:16:27.080 --> 00:16:28.240 Oh yeah, for sure. Have you read it? 360 00:16:28.799 --> 00:16:29.039 No? 361 00:16:29.240 --> 00:16:31.240 Okay, So I talked to I talked to Ian mcgilchris 362 00:16:31.240 --> 00:16:32.759 in London in February. 363 00:16:32.919 --> 00:16:35.519 Ok So we were it was kind of a cool event. 364 00:16:35.600 --> 00:16:38.279 We my wife Kate and I were durpoor Robbins the 365 00:16:38.320 --> 00:16:39.879 band have I said that yet we're in the background. 366 00:16:39.919 --> 00:16:40.440 I've got you up. 367 00:16:41.000 --> 00:16:41.600 I love it. I love it. 368 00:16:41.639 --> 00:16:43.960 So anyway, it was nice because there were some members 369 00:16:44.000 --> 00:16:46.320 from the Bulgar and Sip the orchestra, and we arranged 370 00:16:46.360 --> 00:16:47.799 one of our songs for them to play. So we 371 00:16:47.799 --> 00:16:49.960 played with the orchestra. But afterwards that one of the 372 00:16:49.960 --> 00:16:51.720 people I was most excited to talk to was hanging 373 00:16:51.720 --> 00:16:54.120 out in the green room was Ian McGilchrist. And so 374 00:16:54.159 --> 00:16:55.759 what I brought up with the Ian mcgilchris because I 375 00:16:55.840 --> 00:16:58.759 read the Master and his Emissary right at the same 376 00:16:58.799 --> 00:17:01.759 time I was becoming Orthodox, and I noticed this complete 377 00:17:01.799 --> 00:17:04.400 harmony with the way he was talking about the mapping 378 00:17:04.400 --> 00:17:07.480 of the brain, like the way these hemispheres interact, including 379 00:17:07.480 --> 00:17:10.039 the frontal lobe and the backlobe with the architecture of 380 00:17:10.039 --> 00:17:12.680 an Orthodox church. So if you look at the symbolism, 381 00:17:12.839 --> 00:17:14.759 like you can watch we can bring up Pageaux again 382 00:17:14.799 --> 00:17:16.119 he did in a thing. So if you watch one 383 00:17:16.160 --> 00:17:18.480 of his church tours and he talks about like what's 384 00:17:18.519 --> 00:17:21.400 the symbolic east. So in like Orthodoxy, the east is 385 00:17:21.400 --> 00:17:23.480 your head, it's what comes off the pillow in the 386 00:17:23.480 --> 00:17:26.240 morning is what rises. The south is your left hand, 387 00:17:27.160 --> 00:17:29.119 the north is your right hand, and your feet are 388 00:17:29.160 --> 00:17:31.799 the west. This is how the churches are laid out. 389 00:17:31.799 --> 00:17:33.480 This is pretty obvious, Like the church is shaped like 390 00:17:33.559 --> 00:17:36.039 a cross and you're laying on your back looking up. Well, 391 00:17:36.039 --> 00:17:38.480 we talked about the interplay that he was really going 392 00:17:38.519 --> 00:17:42.599 over between the left and the right hemisphere and Orthodox iconography. 393 00:17:42.640 --> 00:17:45.279 The way it's laid out is identical the reasons things 394 00:17:45.319 --> 00:17:48.640 are laid out. So it's like it was actually loved 395 00:17:48.680 --> 00:17:51.960 this idea. He loves Orthodoxy too, but he what I 396 00:17:52.000 --> 00:17:53.960 was saying is that you guys are finally picking up 397 00:17:53.960 --> 00:17:58.319 to what people had intuited with within Orthodoxy about the 398 00:17:58.319 --> 00:18:00.240 symbolically out of the world and what's been review to 399 00:18:00.240 --> 00:18:03.119 a scripture that the scientists are actually find catching up 400 00:18:03.119 --> 00:18:05.759 to realize that even our internal cosmos of our mind 401 00:18:06.079 --> 00:18:08.519