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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Political beat Down, Ben Mysella's Michael Cohen. Look

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<v Speaker 1>who better to talk to about what went down today

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<v Speaker 1>than Michael Cohen. I was gonna call you, Cohen and

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<v Speaker 1>just ask you, how are you doing? What went down?

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<v Speaker 1>But I figured let's just do it live, so tell

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<v Speaker 1>us what's going on?

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<v Speaker 2>All right?

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<v Speaker 3>So let me be clear that I literally just came

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<v Speaker 3>home and I received a phone call from Ben and

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<v Speaker 3>all sided.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what happened? What happened? The fireworks, the fireworks?

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<v Speaker 2>What happened?

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<v Speaker 3>I said, you know what, before I share it with you,

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<v Speaker 3>I think we should share it with the entire Brigader family.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, our entire Political Beatdown family. Here's something that

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<v Speaker 3>was interesting. Political Beatdown actually became a topic at the hearing.

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<v Speaker 2>She wanted to know about my two podcasts.

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<v Speaker 3>Wanted to know how successful they are, how much revenue

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<v Speaker 3>is determined?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you have advertisers? So I said to her, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Was like, why, what kind of relevance is my podcasts

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<v Speaker 3>with Ben or on my own? What's the relevance to

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<v Speaker 3>this case? To which the judge acknowledged and it moved on.

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<v Speaker 3>But how stupid because they actually know how successful Political

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<v Speaker 3>Beatdown is how successful patreons it. They're following everything. I

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<v Speaker 3>wouldn't be shocked if one of the people that's on

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<v Speaker 3>there is probably them in disguise. But several things happened today.

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<v Speaker 3>First and foremost, they fell flat and flat on their

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<v Speaker 3>face as it related to impeaching me, my credibility and

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<v Speaker 3>so are yes, I acknowledge there are things that I

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<v Speaker 3>did wrong. I acknowledged it. However, one of the things

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<v Speaker 3>they tried to do is to impeach me. Where I

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<v Speaker 3>turn around and I say it on this podcast, I

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<v Speaker 3>may occulp on television in my books, both disloyal and

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<v Speaker 3>revenge that I did not commit tax evasion I didn't

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<v Speaker 3>and the fact that I did not misrepresent anything to

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<v Speaker 3>the bank in order to determine a he lock. And

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<v Speaker 3>so we tried to get in the Petrillo sentencing memo

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<v Speaker 3>that was my lawyer, which the judge truly ignored, and

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<v Speaker 3>right now that's going to be briefed. So we'll see

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<v Speaker 3>what happens with it down the road. But it makes

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<v Speaker 3>no difference because afterwards the judge was asked by one

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<v Speaker 3>of the attorneys.

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<v Speaker 2>He was asked he was actually they.

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<v Speaker 3>Made a motion in order to dismiss the case a

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<v Speaker 3>directed verdict, and the judge looked and he was like,

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<v Speaker 3>what say, he goes, We're making a motion for a

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<v Speaker 3>directed verdict based on the fact that mister Cohen is

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<v Speaker 3>a convicted perjurer and that I mean, this is definitely

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<v Speaker 3>a Trump play out of a playbook. And it fucking

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<v Speaker 3>fell short, like you can't imagine. They thought they were

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<v Speaker 3>going to get a directed verdict based upon the fact

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<v Speaker 3>that they took one line, which is actually not inaccurate

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<v Speaker 3>though it's it's not clear, but they thought they were

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<v Speaker 3>gonna get one line out of a five hundred page

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<v Speaker 3>congressional hearing and use that to impeach my credibility and

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<v Speaker 3>to get a directed verdict. Not once, but twice they

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<v Speaker 3>made motions for a directed verdict, to which the judge

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<v Speaker 3>ultimately said absolutely not, absolutely denied.

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<v Speaker 2>And with that.

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<v Speaker 3>Trump threw his hands up starts yelling like the diaper

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<v Speaker 3>Donald baby that he is, and you know, oh, I

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<v Speaker 3>to get my way on to get my way. Thinking

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<v Speaker 3>that Michael Cohen is the only witness, He's the key witness.

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<v Speaker 3>The judge turned around said, Michael Cohen may or may

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<v Speaker 3>not be the key witness. There are many witnesses here.

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<v Speaker 3>In fact, there's enough documentation already on this case to

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<v Speaker 3>fill up this courtroom.

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<v Speaker 2>So he goes.

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<v Speaker 3>No, no, and Donald was so fucking angry he picked

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<v Speaker 3>Literally they thought that by trying to denigrate me, if

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<v Speaker 3>I tell you and the record comes out, I'm going

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<v Speaker 3>to do a search. How many times that these fucking

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<v Speaker 3>lawyers for Donald turned around and called me a perjurer,

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<v Speaker 3>a convicted felon, a liar. It's got to be in

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<v Speaker 3>the thousands. Every other word by each and every one

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<v Speaker 3>of them was fell in liar, convicted liar. You know

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<v Speaker 3>that I that I that I don't even know when

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<v Speaker 3>I'm lying because I'm just a liar. Meanwhile, I didn't

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't lie on this why because I accepted the plea.

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<v Speaker 3>I took the plea because, as you all know, when

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<v Speaker 3>I first spoke with the prosecutors of the SDN, Y, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I did I lie to the judge accepted the plea

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<v Speaker 3>when he said, you know, did you commit this crime?

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<v Speaker 3>And I said yes, why because if I didn't. In

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<v Speaker 3>forty eight hours, they were coming to my house with

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<v Speaker 3>an eighty page indictment that was going to include my wife.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I would fucking lie to God.

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<v Speaker 2>To protect her.

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<v Speaker 3>And the fact that they know this and everybody knew this.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not like anything I'm saying now is new. I've

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<v Speaker 3>been saying this since five years ago. So look that

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<v Speaker 3>got shut down. He freaked out. Now here was the

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<v Speaker 3>big kepa of the day. And it should have been dual.

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<v Speaker 3>There should be duality in this. Donald attacked me again

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<v Speaker 3>on his truth social posts, which he was.

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<v Speaker 2>Warned not to do.

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<v Speaker 3>And at the same time, after I left from the

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<v Speaker 3>first break, he goes out and he sees all of

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<v Speaker 3>the cameras, I mean the gaggle there was like four

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<v Speaker 3>or five hundred, and.

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<v Speaker 2>He can't help himself.

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<v Speaker 3>So he stands in front of the gaggle and he

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<v Speaker 3>starts to attack the judge and in so doing calling

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<v Speaker 3>the judge a partisan hack.

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<v Speaker 2>This, that and that's okay.

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<v Speaker 3>The judge doesn't care because the judge doesn't have it

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<v Speaker 3>as part of the gag order. But what the judge

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<v Speaker 3>does have as part of the gag order is the

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<v Speaker 3>it's the law clerk, and he says, I will not

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<v Speaker 3>permit you to abuse my staff you don't realize that

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<v Speaker 3>your words can get somebody.

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<v Speaker 2>Hurt or worse killed.

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<v Speaker 3>Put Donald put that guy's fat ass onto the stand

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<v Speaker 3>and under oath make him explain who the person because

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<v Speaker 3>he doesn't say her by name or even she, He

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<v Speaker 3>just says the person next to the judge that, of

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<v Speaker 3>course is the law clerk. He then turns around and

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<v Speaker 3>lies why because he's a fucking perjurer himself, the biggest

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<v Speaker 3>liar on the planet. He goes ahead and he says,

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<v Speaker 3>I wasn't talking about her, I was talking about Michael Cohen.

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<v Speaker 3>And so the judge, nobody in the courtroom believed a

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<v Speaker 3>single thing that was coming out of his mouth, And

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<v Speaker 3>of course his lawyers start to advocate for him, because

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<v Speaker 3>they're just sycophantic morons themselves. So all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 3>the judge turns around and goes, I don't believe you,

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<v Speaker 3>and finds him ten thousand dollars and also warns him

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<v Speaker 3>that one more time if you do it, there's going

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<v Speaker 3>to be very significant and severe consequences.

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<v Speaker 2>So let's just you know, let's.

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<v Speaker 3>Just all acknowledge that Donald can't keep his mouth shut.

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<v Speaker 3>He had to try to steal the thunder the spotlight.

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<v Speaker 2>He does it. The worst thing is to put him.

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<v Speaker 3>In front of a camera, because every time he does,

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<v Speaker 3>he implicates himself on something. And so those are the

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<v Speaker 3>two big takeaways. I am now finished. I am done.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I've met my obligation. I feel very confident

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<v Speaker 3>in the testimony. I do believe, as I had stated

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<v Speaker 3>on Redirect, that Donald is like a mob boss. He

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<v Speaker 3>does not tell you, for example, oh, go in and flight. No, no,

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<v Speaker 3>he tells you I'm not.

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<v Speaker 2>Worth five and maybe I worth six or eight billion dollars.

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<v Speaker 3>And so go to the YouTube, go to the room

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<v Speaker 3>and go figure it out. You know what he wants

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<v Speaker 3>to do. He may not say it specifically. But then again,

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<v Speaker 3>as I've always said, I've said in the first book Disloyal,

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<v Speaker 3>I said it in the second book, Revenge. I talk

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<v Speaker 3>about it on may O Cult, I talk about it

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<v Speaker 3>here in Political Beatdown. Donald speaks like a mob boss,

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<v Speaker 3>plain and simple, end of story. And you know what,

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<v Speaker 3>they hurt themselves with the attempted impeachment of me on everything.

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<v Speaker 3>It was an absolutely worthless, worthless exercise for them. And

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<v Speaker 3>you know what, I am more certain today than I

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<v Speaker 3>have ever been that Donald Trump is going to face

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<v Speaker 3>very significant accountability.

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<v Speaker 1>You've said afterwards in a very short press conference that

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<v Speaker 1>you gave that when you saw Donald Trump, when you

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<v Speaker 1>looked at him, and you've known him for a very

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<v Speaker 1>long period of time, although you haven't seen him in

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<v Speaker 1>five years being in a room that he looked like

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<v Speaker 1>a defeated man. Can you elaborate on what you meant

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<v Speaker 1>by them?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, especially you know when he went running out of

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<v Speaker 3>there after their motion for a directed verdict was denied twice,

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<v Speaker 3>he throws his hands up, he gets all angry. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>you could you know it's he actually thought that he

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<v Speaker 3>was going to be Victoria's and he built up up

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<v Speaker 3>into his head the fact that they were.

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<v Speaker 2>Going to be victorious.

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<v Speaker 3>So I don't know if Salty, if he has the clip,

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<v Speaker 3>love to show it and then I'll explain a little more.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, let's play that clip. If we got at Salty.

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<v Speaker 2>Would admitted if we won the five.

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<v Speaker 3>And if you.

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<v Speaker 4>What did you make of that coming?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, when was the last time that you ever

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<v Speaker 3>saw Trump in front of a microphone? In under five seconds,

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<v Speaker 3>and listen to the way he's speaking like he ran

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<v Speaker 3>out of oxygen in his lungs.

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<v Speaker 2>Jug and it's really unfair.

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<v Speaker 3>And ultimately you got you know, you got Eric sit

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<v Speaker 3>there Patentum on the back. Oh like, hey, don't worry Dad,

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<v Speaker 3>don't worry dad. You know, yeah, you better start worrying

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<v Speaker 3>because there's gonna be a real problem here.

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<v Speaker 1>What's your final message? And we're gonna go on Political

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<v Speaker 1>And we have a bunch of great exclusive features on Patreon.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna now be announcing as well the live Zoom

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<v Speaker 1>where you could meet Michael Cohen as well. It's one

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<v Speaker 1>of the great Patreon Let's.

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<v Speaker 2>Get that going. Let's get that going real quick.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah we will, we will. Let's figure out the exact

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<v Speaker 1>day to announce that, but we're going to announce that

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<v Speaker 1>of finally, Coen, after you completed your testimony, there's obviously

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<v Speaker 1>a lot more witnesses who are going to be coming,

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<v Speaker 1>And what's your kind of final message to Donald Trump,

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<v Speaker 1>the Trumpkins in general, people who are there.

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<v Speaker 3>So this case, according to Judge and Goron, is over

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<v Speaker 3>December twenty two. And you know, I actually thought I

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<v Speaker 3>was going to be on for more than two days.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I'm thankful that I'm not. It's an exhausting experience.

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<v Speaker 3>But as I said before, I am more certain today

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<v Speaker 3>nothing that they asked me hasn't been asked and answered

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<v Speaker 3>a dozen times a dozen So what they thought they

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<v Speaker 3>were getting out of this? How they thought they were

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<v Speaker 3>mean somewhere along the line, this sea team group of lawyers,

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<v Speaker 3>these bunch of just fucking assholes, especially this Chris Kai

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<v Speaker 3>is God damn, He's sitting there attacking me on on

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I'm a serial liar, and so what.

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<v Speaker 3>My fucking uh you know, uh tricks, you know, uh,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I'm the I'm the I'm a lying rabbit.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I don't even understand what the hell, he's

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<v Speaker 3>talking about everything that I say is a lie? Really,

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<v Speaker 3>I was going to turn around, but I couldn't because

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<v Speaker 3>of course I'm on the stand. Really, was I lying

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<v Speaker 3>when I said before Congress that Donald does not beat Malanga,

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<v Speaker 3>that he never beat her up in an elevator, which

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<v Speaker 3>was a story, It's not true? Was I lying when

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<v Speaker 3>I said that I do not believe that the story

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's a if it's a lie. Was I lying? Then?

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<v Speaker 3>Well about all of the other things that I turned

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<v Speaker 3>around that nobody seems so?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm look, he's just an asshole? Right? How many times?

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<v Speaker 2>Four times? He turned around?

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<v Speaker 3>He told us that he uh has tested that he's

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<v Speaker 3>been before the Supreme Court of the United States. So

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<v Speaker 3>what Neil Katial has been up like what forty times?

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<v Speaker 2>Big deal? I mean, if that's your practice, that's your practice.

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<v Speaker 2>Good for you.

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<v Speaker 3>How about this one missed four time Supreme Court? You know, uh,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, attorney, you lost and you're losing this case

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<v Speaker 3>and you're losing it miserably because whoever it is that's

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<v Speaker 3>coming up with the strategy is as big an asshole

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<v Speaker 3>as you you know, because this isn't even a full beatdown.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't even give him the two fingers salute. So

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<v Speaker 3>you know what, fuck it that there you go. That's

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<v Speaker 3>what you deserve, your stupid asshole, right, keep your fucking

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<v Speaker 3>opinions in your nastiness to yourself. And why don't you

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<v Speaker 3>concentrate on trying to create an argument that.

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<v Speaker 2>Could help your client instead?

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<v Speaker 3>Twice the fucking edyt gets twice sanctioned five grand and

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<v Speaker 3>ten grand and the next one. I won't be surprised

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<v Speaker 3>if and gore on first. So I don't think he's

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<v Speaker 3>coming back. That's number one, because he can't help himself.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't think he's even gonna testify, No, no.

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<v Speaker 2>I do not.

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<v Speaker 3>He can't afford to testify. Any question that he refuses

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<v Speaker 3>to answer becomes major news. And in all fairness, he

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<v Speaker 3>lies about everything. It's funny that they're deflecting on me.

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<v Speaker 3>This fucker even lied today to the judge. He lies

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<v Speaker 3>with impunity. For God's sakes, Google it, my brigaders. Google

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<v Speaker 3>it and see how many times did he lie to

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<v Speaker 3>the American people during his four year administration Greater than

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I lied.

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<v Speaker 3>I said I pled guilty to things I didn't do,

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<v Speaker 3>like the tax evasion. But I've been saying the same

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<v Speaker 3>thing literally in this Petrillo sentencing memo. I ask everybody

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<v Speaker 3>look it up. I mean you could read it, especially

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<v Speaker 3>pages like fourteen to seventeen. It's spelled out right there.

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<v Speaker 3>I haven't changed my story, all right, So look, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>gonna continue to push. I'm going to continue to fight.

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<v Speaker 2>I have more.

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<v Speaker 3>There's as you know, in March, there's the criminal case,

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<v Speaker 3>the District Attorney of New York case, so I gotta,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, think about that too. But I will continue

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<v Speaker 3>to push to ensure that Donald is held accountable because

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<v Speaker 3>you made him. See me yesterday in front of the

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<v Speaker 3>gaggle when I say, this is not Michael Cohen versus

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<v Speaker 3>Donald Trump, or Donald Trump versus Michael Cohen, even if

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<v Speaker 3>that's what he wants. This is all about holding him accountable,

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<v Speaker 3>plain and simple, and we brigators. We will hold him accountable.

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<v Speaker 3>Rest assured, because again I have never been more sure,

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<v Speaker 3>especially after the testimony that I provided on direct that

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<v Speaker 3>Donald Trump will be held accountable. And the number is

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<v Speaker 3>going to be real significant.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, leaven On that note. Tomorrow is our regularly scheduled

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<v Speaker 1>Political beat Down. We will see everybody there one thirty

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<v Speaker 1>and you could meet Michael Cohen when we do our

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<v Speaker 3>You even notice sometimes I'm like answering people at one

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<v Speaker 3>o'clock in the morning.

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<v Speaker 2>I really do answer. I really do have a sleeping problem.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's really I could promise you I give.

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<v Speaker 3>You listen, I'm not lying. I'm telling you it is me.

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<v Speaker 3>I am the one that's doing it. I give you

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<v Speaker 3>my word on that one. You know. Let me just

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<v Speaker 3>say one last thing is I have stated to on

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<v Speaker 3>other episodes that I am going to be moving the

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<v Speaker 3>Political Beatdown, and I am bringing my RSS feed to

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<v Speaker 3>the fastest growing network news network that's out there, and

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<v Speaker 2>I am going to join the.

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<v Speaker 3>certainly will be seeing our brigaders. I will be seeing

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<v Speaker 2>So let's do it, Brigaders.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you Michael Cohen. It's going to be honored to

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