Speaker 1: All right, guys, welcome in. It is Wednesday. It is
time for another edition of Full Court Press, another huge
slate on a Wednesday night, a bunch of games to
talk about. We'll get into it in a second. First, Rob,
you know, how how did your Tuesday go? How'd your
five dollars Tuesday go? For the clients?
Speaker 2: Yeah? The five dollars Tuesday? The play itself wasn't very good.
San Diego State minus twelve against Wyoming one by nine,
and you.
Speaker 3: Learned by eleven and a half, right, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: Get beaten the second You're not supposed to. But you know,
as long as I've been doing this aadam, sometimes you
find that you ignore some things that you shouldn't ignore.
And while I was gung ho, i'm the San Diego
State side of things in that game, I pretty much
disregarded the Wyoming side, which would have been is situationally,
that team needed to play a really good game. They're
free falling in the Mountain West, and it's a better
team than what they had shown, So I didn't necessarily
give Wyoming the proper respect lose by three. Otherwise, we
had a two and two day in college basketball beside that,
which was pretty good. The Murray State game eighty one
and a half Land eighty one team total unbelievable. Another
one of those half points where we got caught. But
I think that the Murray State handicap was right. They
did come out and cover the spread. For those of
you who played them, ats you win with Murray. Trying
to think of what else was you know, it's so
hard to remember today, never mind yesterday. But it was
two and two. NBA brought me to a plus though,
because I had a big inter play that won. So
the full day wound up as the fourth consecutive, sixth
consecutive winning day in a row.
Speaker 1: Robert Service in the chats is great call on usc Adam.
He went to the game, so he got a nice
in in game winner right there with That was it
for me. Yesterday I went I went one and two,
feeling a little bit unfortunate to go one and two.
Speaker 3: I had to Paul plus ten and a half.
Speaker 1: If you watch that game, I don't think Saint John's
really deserved to be a twelve point winner. There was
a it was pretty close throughout of course, DePaul hits
a three to cut it to ten with sixteen seconds
left Rob, and you know, some folks dribble the clock
out right there. But to Paul decided that was going
to be the case. They filed ended up losing by
twelve the other one. Listen, I mean I had Boise
State gave it out on the show. They were up
by twenty in the first half, thirty to ten, they
were up by fourteen in the second half. They came
all the way Nevada came all the way back to
Forrest overtime, and so here I am Rob rarely with
a favorite in ot.
Speaker 3: That rarely happens for me, and I you know, I
have a good memory.
Speaker 1: I remember sitting there earlier this year with Boston College
plus seven and a half, losing that when in overtime
to LSU said, I said, this is the the gambling
gods are going to repay me right here. It's you know,
it's a good time for it. Of course they did not.
Boise State ends up winning by four. I had minus
five and a half, so one and two day.
Speaker 3: But we'll live. It's, you know, it's been going good,
so we can live with that.
Speaker 1: I did like that San Diego State play, though, that
was one I strongly considered and Rob another one thankfully
did not come back with USC. I might be at
the GW Bridge right now if I did that. So
I don't know if you saw the end of that game, but.
Speaker 2: I was watching UCLA at the end of surprised they
got such a high point total. And the reason I
was interested there Adam real quick because we're delay in
the start of what's going to happen today. But the
only reason I was interested in UCLA Indiana was because
the other day I had USC team total against Indiana again,
a game that fell at half point short. USC lipiates
doorstep Ucla not the case. Still less night Mick Cronin
had gone nuts again on his team the prior contest,
and I don't know they responded, so maybe mixed rants
just don't get old at him. You would think it's
something to get old, but you CLA played a great
game again without sky Clark when they get him back.
I know the Big Ten focuses on Michigan, especially in Illinois,
especially rightfully so, but I don't know. There's something about
UCLA when they get sky Clark back that looks pretty good.
Speaker 3: Rob.
Speaker 1: Here's the thing we do what the chat asks for
on the show, and I've been asked in the comments,
I've been asking here, you got to recap the night before.
You know you can't. You know, we want you to
come on and say if you went one in two
or two in one. So that's what we're gonna do.
That's what we do on the show. We do what
you guys ask for. So that was the Tuesday recap.
It's time to get to Wednesday.
Speaker 3: Rob.
Speaker 1: I was having a hard time picking a feature game
tonight because you know, there's a lot of like rank
versus unranked. There's good ones, but they're not like super
marquee games. I landed on UCF Houston. I figured for
two reasons. One, you know, nineteen and two against seventeen
and four, Right, Houston's a top ten team, one of
the best teams in the country. But as I was
handicapping these games, I felt like I felt like UCF
deserved their shine for a second. You know, this is
a team Johnny Dawkins deserves from credit, so we'll give him.
We'll give him a little credit right here on full
Court Press. I thought this was gonna be one of
the worst teams in the Big Twelve coming into the season.
When you looked at all the other teams in the
Big twelve. I in my head, I said, well, there's
UCS got to be one of the bottom two, bottom
three teams in this league. Rob This team right now
is seventeen to four. There's six and three in conference play.
They have wins over Kansas over Texas Tech last time
out over the weekend, a shocking result for some. And
then you know, they hung around with number one Arizona
only lost by seven three in conference play. Very very
impressive for UCF relative to what I thought they were
going to be this year. And then there's Houston nineteen
and two. No surprise there, right. I don't think anyone
had had any reason to think that Houston wouldn't be
a top ten team again this year. And there they
are right at the top of the Big ten, behind Arizona,
who is obviously is not lost yet this year at
seven and one. Robino, do Central Florida have another one
in them here?
Speaker 3: Or is this going to be a blowout?
Speaker 2: You know? My initial reaction was they not that they
have one in them in terms of pushing Houston to
the wire over the course of forty minutes, But do
they have one in them covering this type of number,
which we've seen increase this morning up to fifteen. I
think was the last dice, So I'm gonna check it
for everybody now. Fifteen and a half is what we're
looking at here. Houston opened fourteen and a half total
one to fifteen and a half, which sounds insane for
a Houston game. Down to one forty seven and a half,
one forty eight and a half. So you got a
little bit of shopping room there, But it's Houston under
Kelvin Sampson is a very very predictable team each and
every year. What they're gonna be, what they're gonna look like,
what they're gonna do best, what they're going to maybe
not do best, which is go into scoring droughts, et cetera.
This is the number one offensive efficiency team in the
Big Twelve. It's amazing how much better they are offensively
this year, and they still don't do everything right on
the offensive end. They are a better three point shooting teams,
they're not a great three point shooting team. They don't
turn the ball over. Their guard play is sensational as
far as ball handling is concerned. They they still offensive
rebound like crazy. On the defensive end, they don't defensive rebound.
I feel like with Houston you have to at least
match up halfway decent on the glass if you're going
to have any opportunity whatsoever. And Central Florida does in
my estimation right at seventy two. Kid Bowl in the
pivot there, and Central Florida has been playing pretty good
as far as rebounding numbers are concerned. They're a team
that can score Houston generally, if you have a squad
that on the offensive end isn't quite as efficient or
you know, if they're not top half of the conference
efficiency wise, and if they have a tendency to go
with the scoring droughts, Houston will lock you in a
box and you won't score. And we've seen that at
home so far this year. We've seen three wins at
home inside this league of twenty points are better, So
they're more than capable. But I go back to one
thing that you said really quick here about UCF hanging
tight with Arizona. Nobody rebounds better than Arizona so far
this year. Nobody does anything in this league better than
Arizon so far this year. And if you can play
to within single digits against them, I have to believe,
you know, Houston's off a monster win. Maybe this win
isn't as big. Houston does have lulls at times. So
while I think they're gonna win the ballgame, I just
my tendency here, My lean would be to play Central
Florida plus the points. You know, if you come in
with a seventeen and fourteen and a veteran head coach
like Johnny Dawkins, you come in here and maybe Houston's
the one with the bullseye on their chest, Like Houston's
a team that's gonna get your best effort, your max effort,
and their max effort against Arizona was good enough, So
why wouldn't it be good enough here against Houston to
get within fifteen and a half.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, my my number's been off on UCF
all season, So it doesn't surprise me that that I
make Houston a bigger favorite than that in the fifteen
and a half.
Speaker 3: So like that was not surprising to me.
Speaker 1: I knew before I even started doing calculations for the game,
rob that I was gonna to come out showing an
edge on Houston against the number. But I won't be
laying it in this spot against Central Florida because of
a lot of what you said. The other thing being
there's a lot of tough shot makers on this team.
So two things that are going to be able to
keep you hanging around against a number like fifteen and
a half. And maybe this is also a case for
the over a little bit as well, because I do
think UCF can score some points the ability to hit
the three point shot and then of course the ability
to make tough shots. And Central Florida does both of
those things considerably well. They you know, fortieth nationally in
field goal percentage. They have tough shot makers on the team,
they're twenty first nationally shooting a three thirty eight point
two percent, and like you were saying, you know, they're
statistically comparable to Houston rebounding the basketball, so there might
actually be maybe some second chance points, maybe a tip out,
you know, maybe a rebound and kick for an open three.
That's a way Central Florida can score points. On the
other hand, you know, if Houston can score like the
way that they are capable of, right, like if they
play their best offensive game or what they're better at,
like if they play the offensive game that they're capable of,
capable of rob sorry trying to get that out. They
should score at will here. They should score points hand
over fist in this matchup in my opinion. So I
guess I can't decide which one I like better, but
for me, it would either take a shot with Central
Florida plus the points kind of knowing that they can
hang around.
Speaker 3: You know, you already be the Arizona comparison.
Speaker 1: Listen, beating Kansas and beating Texas Tech are pretty nice
feathers in the cap as well, right, and Houston, I
don't think they're better than all three of those teams,
you know, I think they're right in the They're right
in that sort of grouping. Arizona, Texas Tech, Kansas, Houston.
They're all kind of you know, you can make it
case Arizona's one, but then the others are like two.
Speaker 3: A, two B, two C to an extent.
Speaker 1: So yeah, you SEEFF potentially hanging around, but also some
points because I think you seef at worst will score
in this matchup, and Houston should be able to score
their points as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and real quick, just to specify the stuff on
the glass, Adam is we know under Kelvin Sampson that
Houston lives off of second chance points. They live off
of second chance, third chance, fourth chance. They attack the
glass like crazy. But you see, f is the best
defensive rebounding team in this conference statistically so far. So
that's kind of the case that we're making here on
the glass that Houston doesn't get as many second opportunities
as they're used to against this team, which actually limited
Arizona on their second chance opportunities in that game. I
just pulled up the box while you were talking. They
did a great job there. So again, you know, Arizona
was at home in Orlando. This is on the road.
But I do agree with you that this conference at
the top, boil Boy Arizona has proven to be the best,
but there's a paper thin difference between a couple others,
and Central Florida's proven to hang with every one of
them so far.
Speaker 1: I'll say this on the Central Florida side, I think
you wait, if you want to bet Central Florida let
the market steam the crap out of Houston, which they
almost definitely will. Pretty much happens every game for them,
and so I would almost like no, I wouldn't be
taking fifteen and a half. Now, I'd say, if you
can get seventeen and a half, right, I think I
think I see some places going to sixteen or sixteen
and a half already in this game. So I would
wait if you like Houston or I'm sorry if you
like Central Florida. But again, I think, if just for
the sake of this being the feature game and trying
to give a side and total opinion, if you're gonna
lean Central Florida plus the points, Rob, I will say
the over would be the play playing back at that
early move and taking points. And I think there's a
little bit of correlation there. I think I don't think
you're getting a Central Florida cover that stays under. A
game that stays under is likely a thirty five point
Houston win in my opinion, So maybe some correlation Central
Florida and over. Okay, let's move on. Garth has jumped in.
We appreciate the donation, Garth, and we're going to get
to your game. We'll talk about it right now. Very
interesting one to me, I was I was just at
the Tulsa game over the weekend.
Speaker 3: I was at the Reynolds Center Robbino.
Speaker 1: Tulsa, Oklahoma for Tulsa absolutely destroying Wichita State. Very impressive performance.
I talked on Monday about just a great atmosphere, great
production they had for that game.
Speaker 3: Last year. I went to this building.
Speaker 1: This is the Ellie the Eleanor Baldwin Arena in Boca Raton, Florida,
where this one is going to be played tonight. I
haven't seen. I don't know if Bayou's here yet today.
He's convinced the rims in this building are soft. He
he I don't know where he got that info, but
he Oh here he is, He's there.
Speaker 3: I see here, he's there. But yeah, by by you has.
Speaker 1: Been saying all year that Florida Atlantic has just insanely
soft rims. They play and they and they play better
at home because of it. Their offensive numbers are better
at home because of it. Robino, you know who's who
would benefit greatly from some soft rims, if that's even
the case. That would be Tulsa, who's as good of
an offensive team as any team in this league.
Speaker 3: Rob I got a great stat for you.
Speaker 1: I talked for a while with the the associate A
d uh, the one that's kind of in charge of
men's basketball. He gave me a great tour again. They
first class everything there. They were awesome to me on
Sunday and he threw a stat at me and I said, oh,
I'm definitely gonna use that on the show Tulsa this year.
It's also starting five. The statistic is plus minus, which
I think you would understand that stat.
Speaker 3: Better than me.
Speaker 1: I've never never been able to fully wrap my head
around like plus minus and how to how to like
apply it to you know, like handicapping for myself. But
I know it's a stat. You guys, you NBA guys
love that stat too. Anyway, Tulsa's starters plus minus is
the third highest in the country. The only two teams
that have a higher plus minus for their starters in
college basketball are Arizona and Houston. I listen, it's pretty
good company, Rob. Anytime you're in a group with Arizona
and Houston, that's impressive. Tulsa was very impressive on Sunday.
I've liked this team all year, going way back to
non conference play when I said they were gonna beat
Kansas State and they fell one point short short in
a game they probably should have won.
Speaker 3: So Garth likes Tulsa. I kind of like Tulsa. What
do you think about tall You.
Speaker 2: Well, you don't want to bet against Tulsa right now,
but if you were going to bet against Tulsa and listen,
I got maybe I just was too proactive. On Sunday
it was my only loser with FAU team total over God.
I forget what the number was, but they were playing
ECU and they got into the high seventies and you
need to get me I think eighty one. They didn't
reach that point. And the guessing game there, Adam was
whether or not Vanterpool and Carlisle were going to come
back for FAU. And you know, you dig, you dig,
you dig in this business when you're betting these games,
you dig, you dig, you dig, And I between the lines,
I got the feeling that Vanterpool was coming back, so
I went ahead and played them over because they've been
off a couple of poor offensive performances for FAU. If
there's one thing they do, well, let's score the basketball.
They fell just short on Sundays. My inclination tonight was, well,
I want to come back with them and catch them
over their team total here, which I still wouldn't be
opposed to. It's the second game back for both of
these guys, their whole they're at home by you, says,
everything falls in Boca Ratones, So you know, why.
Speaker 1: Not now the invitational rims, he says, in that building.
Speaker 2: So the problem that you have here is you have
the Tulsa defense, which has been and I'm trying to remember, Okay,
so if we're talking about Saint Louis the way we
talk about Saint Louis being two three, four cuts above
everybody else in the A ten right so far this
season in the American which you're up against here, if
you're me looking to play FAU team total overs, that
Tulsa is showing you that they're more than one cut
above the rest of this league right now. I'm both
ends of the floor. Been good offensively, been good defensively.
But I think the FA you can get to this defense.
I was a little surprised that the full game total
came down, to tell you the truth, because I think
it's going to be up and down here. But I'm
going to stick by my guns and beyond FAU team
total over seventy nine and a half, they're the underdog here.
So that's kind of helpful to me because you're asked
to do a little bit less where scoreboard production is concerned,
because you are the underdog. The team the favorite obviously
is asked to score more, which is Tulsa. Can they
get to eighty three? Of course they can, But I
just think that a fully stocked FAU team at home
can get to eighty and what could wind up being
an up and down track meet. I don't think Tulsa's
defense is incredible in something FAU can't score against. So
that's the way I'm looking at it. Guys. It's very
possible that ends up as my leg of the parlay.
We'll worry about that down the road here this morning,
but FAU team total is where I'm at right now.
Speaker 1: You know, this is the second one in a row
where my number contradicts the way the way I sort
of feel about the game. Right So, first, when we
talked about I number loves Houston, but I would want
the UCF side here. I make FAU a slight favorite,
just just the math makes FAU a slight favorite for me,
But I think Tulsa is just a much better team.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 1: I can't just can't dispute because there's some numerical, uh
you know, data supporting values claim that FAU shoots it
just insanely better at home. So that is certainly, you know,
something that that I think you have to acknowledge. And
this is this is not just this year they've they've
played better in this building, you know, it's also it's
also let's not leave out the fact that that's a
pretty challenging place to play on the road for other
teams in the American The the average so Reynolds Center
in Tulsa holds eighty three hundred.
Speaker 3: There is about fifty five hundred there on Sunday.
Speaker 1: That is mostly what you get in this league in
the American Right, seven eight thousand seat venues, you know,
like not not the huge arenas. Memphis plays in an
NBA arena, right Temple, I was just there. I think
that place but maybe holds ten thousand, ATAU holds twenty
eight hundred. Right, this is a this is a much
different facility than a lot of these teams are used
to playing like league games in. Yeah, the ELI holds
twenty eight hundred people, So it's small, it's you know,
it could be tough on visitors.
Speaker 3: I think you have to at least acknowledge that.
Speaker 1: So again, I maybe lean your way a little bit
in respect that, you know, there might be a lot
of points in this game, but I do think the
books kind of overcompensated for that on that initial number.
That's probably why it came down a little bit. You know,
they threw a one to sixty six out there, because
I think they're sort of looking and saying, well at
the U scores at home, tall scoring on anyone and everyone.
They were insane. That was an insane offensive performance. That
was a good you know, that was a Wichita State
team that's been playing really good ball lately, and Tulsa
just bodied them. There was that second half was as
impressive of a half that I've seen them play all season.
So I wouldn't bet against Tulsa here, Garth. So if
you're on Tulsa, good luck, I'll be rooting for You.
Don't know if I'll be on that side, however, Rob
If Florida Atlanta takes enough money, which it looks like
they're taking money right now, and suddenly I can get
Tulsa at a pick, I may have to at least
consider that Otherwise I don't think I could talk you.
Speaker 3: Off either of these teams scoring points.
Speaker 1: And your look forward FAU makes a lot of sense
because they've been on the road lately, at least the
last couple of games. I think they've had a couple
of road games. Now they're coming back home where they're
much more comfortable offensively. So, Yeah, that's a that's gonna
be a great one. I think Garth nailed it might
be the best game of the day. Yeah, that's gonna
be a great one to watch tonight. And you know,
we'll circle back to this one if Rob's going to
use it before the end.
Speaker 3: Of the show. Rob, you you know, I don't remember
who who requested this.
Speaker 1: I did go out and get the uh purple Haze
bang after I went one and two yesterday on games,
I felt like I should have went at least two
and one. I said, we got to switch it up.
We gotta go with the the bang this time. I
was drinking rain energy for a couple of days. I
gotta say, though, I don't love the purple haze flavor.
That's on me though. It's I've I've had a thing
since I was a young kid. I think it's because
my mother gave me diamond Do you remember dimond tap?
Speaker 3: Is that still a thing? Oh? Dimond taps still around.
Speaker 1: When I was When I would get sick as a kid,
that was the medicine in the house, and I hated it.
Speaker 3: I just I'd spit it out. I couldn't.
Speaker 1: They'd have to hold me down to get me to
take the diamond tap. I hated the liquid. I still
don't do liquid medicines because of that. If I can
avoid it, gotta be a pill form. I can't sit
there and drink a medicine. I'll I'll pretty much throw up.
But this flavor reminds me of that. I'm having flashbacks
to that. So this is probably the last time, probably
the last time for the Purple Hazes flavor. But I
told you I would try it, and there it is.
The other thing before we go to the next game.
Of course, the package that Rob and I have, it's
it's up for the whole season, two days or three days,
double the firepower CBB. It's all of my plays, it's
all of Rob's plays in college basketball. It's been running
pretty good for the most part of late. I had
a really good weekend, kind of a wash yesterday. But
we'll see if we can get it going today. I've
already locked one play in and Rob I have a
feeling with this great board, great slate that I'm gonna
have at least one more. So yeah, we will continue
on here. First of all, I want to really quickly
acknowledge this is this is just a donation from Robert.
You know again, we cashed in person for him last night.
He was at the USC game. They tried their they
tried their Dan dis Rob to choke that one away
at the end. I don't know if you were still
up watching that, but uh, it did get home. So
USC got the job done against Indiana. Appreciate that. And
now it's back to games. I will jump back into
the chat in the second, but I did. My buddy
Jeff is going to this game tonight. He asked me
about it yesterday. I said, you know what, he doesn't
really ask me for games. All that off, and so
I said, we'll hit it on the show. This game
is in Central New York at Cadarell Court. I did
throw the hoodie on and I also hit a Patriot
League game on this show, which someone acknowledged in the
chat here. We hit one on Monday with Boston University,
so Rob Bino, let's head to Central New York.
Speaker 3: Colgate Army.
Speaker 1: We talked about on Monday, the fact that it's Navy,
it's Colgate, and it feels like it's everyone else in
this league.
Speaker 3: I gotta be honest, Army. Army burned me earlier in
this year.
Speaker 1: Army used to be I feel like Army used to
come up on the show on a on a Gate
on a pretty much a daily basis.
Speaker 3: Anytime they played.
Speaker 1: I would almost always make a case against Army, and
they would almost always find a way to make me
look stupid somehow with just, you know, an obnoxious three
point shooting performance when they're a team that can't you know,
that shoots outside the top three hundred from threes. It
was stuff like that for most of the year, Rob.
You know, they hit the road tonight with with a
with a team field goal percentage of forty two, three
hundred and twenty third in the country. Their three point shooting, however,
has improved. They've gotten inside the top two hundred. So
for me, the path here is probably some three point shooting.
But I still think.
Speaker 3: Army's just not a very good team.
Speaker 1: I'm tempted to lay it with colegate, talk me on
to that, talk me off of that, and and do
you have anything on the total here?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it would be simple, probably too simplistic
for me in this one. First of all, you know,
I always look at Colgate from an offensive perspective way
more than defensive. But you have the number one offensive
efficiency team in the conference against the worst defensive efficiency
team in the conference. That just plays into Colgate strengs
if you just run a little bit with them. And
this is a slow tempo league, right Nobody goes quick
in this league. So even though Armies ranked sixth in Temple,
it doesn't mean they're fast, but they're quick enough. They'll
do enough to allow Colgate the opportunities and then they'll play.
You know, the resistance on the defensive end is so
little that Colgate may not need a lot of pace here.
Their team total is eighty and a half right now,
and it just seems so doable for Colgate to get
to eighty one against this team last three games right
in that territory, right Boston, you eighty Holy Cross seventy nine,
le Highs seventy six, nowatted the last two are in overtime.
But those three teams I rattled off are so superior
to Army defensively that you have to figure Colgate at
home gets their way in this one again in laying
points with Colgate, and I'll just you know, we'll requote
a lot of the things we say during the during
the year, but if you can't, if I can't rely
on you for defensive stops, and in this game, I
guess if I can't rely on Colgate, I kind of
have the cushion of relying on Army to misshots. Like
you can't defend, but the other team can't shoot either,
So maybe I'm okay trying to cover this particular number.
It's being steamed up right now. I see eleven and
a half's out there at him at this point in time,
but you can still shop your way to a better number.
My lean would be Colgate team total over. But I
don't think I could talk anybody off of Colgate winning
by twelve here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's kind of where I was at big number,
But I do think Colgate could get there. I think
this My gut tells me that this is a blowout
like that that the eleven or twelve is not gonna
matter in the end. It's gonna be something like a
twenty plus point Colgate win. They come off of So
a couple of things I'll throw out here just to
wrap this one up. One, Colgate comes off a loss
to Lehigh, not necessarily a bad loss, but still they
you know, going on the road. It was probably like
a basket the spread, so not a bad loss, but
they lost by one, and I do think that puts
them in a good, potentially a good spot to bounce
back from that from that loss and maybe maybe want
to extend the lead at some point here. I kind
of think that this whole game goes over, So it
would support your look at the Colgate team. Total, Army
does not play good defense. But one thing Army has
done I'll go back to that, their three point shooting
and conference play has been very good, and I think
Army kind of so remember this was a team last
year that had Josh Skovins is now at Davidson.
Speaker 3: He was kind of the guy that could could get
into the paint and score a little bit.
Speaker 1: They also had Jalen Rutger, who was a guy who
was one of the best players in the league. He
was a guy that could get to the rim. With
the guys they have left, they don't have much. They
can't they don't they don't get to the free throw line,
and they don't have much in the way of interior scoring.
So Colgate likes to play this one three to one
sort of extended zone three quarter court pressure. They they'll
give you, like Matt Langle's gonna give you a like,
numerous different looks defensively. But my as I talk this
one out, Rob, I'm wondering, if you know Colgate's in
that zone a little bit kind of I don't think
Army's gonna be totally upset about that, right Like, even
though even.
Speaker 3: Though they might have to would stand.
Speaker 1: Some three quarter court pressure, I don't think they're gonna
be like totally upset that Colgate's gonna zone them first
at least some or most of this game. Because that's
the one thing Army really does want to do is
shoot the three, and they really can't do anything else.
So if Army's allowed to get, you know, get a
couple of threes up and they go in, well, suddenly
you might have a game that's got some scoring if
they're not falling.
Speaker 3: If those shots are not falling.
Speaker 1: For Army, good night, cold Gate's gonna be up fifteen
before you can blink. And so that that's kind of
how I would look at this game. You know, for
my buddy Jeff, who's going I would say Colgate minus
the points.
Speaker 3: He's going to.
Speaker 1: Root for Colgate anyway, so you know, I know he
wants to hear that. But also the over I think
it gets there one way or the other, because if
you do get that big lead rob with Colgate and
then they kind of go to sleep toward the end
of the game, maybe Army gets a rush of points
late just to you know, just to make it a
little bit closer, and you're probably going way over the
total if that's the case.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And just to put a triple exclamation point onto
what you're saying about Army's tension or maybe just sheared
necessity to have to shoot threes. They're the second most
dependent team in the nation out at three hundred and
sixty five on three pointers where score is concern their
point distribution three pointers, they're the second most dependent upon that,
and they're three hundred and fifty third in two point plays,
So it just shows you we're not going to get
anything inside the arc. Everything we get is going to
be outside the arc. Against Holy Cross last game, they
put it up forty times May fifteen, but they shot
it forty times, so you know, Colcate, maybe if you
throw it up forty times to make fifteen, that's forty
five points right there for Armies. So we'll see how
it goes. But just it's a team that's so reliant
on threes, it's crazy.
Speaker 1: All right, let's move on. I This is Jacob going
from yesterday. Joey Cheese made me laugh with the Twitter
cap or play of the day, and Jake in the
chat says that that play today is going to be Alabama.
He says, today's I lost this comment. He goes to
all the fake sharps will be on Bama today. The
Twitter cap or play of the day is Alabama. Yeah,
you're not wrong about that. My problem is, I don't
know if I disagree with them in this spot. I
kind of think Bama. He's right about that. Everyone's gonna
love Bama. It already steen, it already got hit at
the open, It's already steened before we came on the show.
I think we were up as high as as high
as eight and a half, but ROB like Bucky ball,
doesn't they I don't think that works against Alabama. It's
worked against everyone else in the league. Somehow, Texas A
and M is what seven and one an SEC play?
Speaker 3: That's kind of crazy.
Speaker 1: They've been playing awesome, but can you do that against Bama?
This this does feel like a Bama blowout, But I
also don't disagree. I think it's gonna be everyone's play
of the day. So talk to me, Bama, Texas A
and M.
Speaker 3: How do you see this one?
Speaker 2: You know, just something to consider about Bucky McMillan in
Texas A and M, because I'm going through this this morning,
if you'd have told either of us, Adam, let's just say,
back in August, somebody told us, you know what, swapping
Buzz Williams for Bucky McMillan is the best thing Texas
A and M could possibly do. And if you said,
you know, putting Buzz Williams in Maryland is the best
thing Maryland could do. And neither one is true. Right now,
Bucky McMillan, at thirty two years old, is absolutely tearing
up the SEC. But the one thing, and this is
projecting ahead. We're just I'm gonna go off topic just
for half a second here. I just wonder how much
of Texas A and M's success is running through the
league for the first time, Like when we come to
conference tournament time and people have already seen A and
M and they've seen what he brought from Sanford, will
results be different? And I just feel like maybe the
way his style, the uniqueness of what Texas A and
M does under Bucky McMillan, once it's on tape, once
you have forty minutes of playing against it, maybe things reversed.
So conference tournament time, maybe I'm going the other way.
It's hard to argue against them right now. They both
do the same thing, right, They both want to get
into the same game. What strikes me as crazy this
year and I still can't get over the numbers inside
of conference play that Alabama is the second or the
third worst team enforcing turnovers like NATO's has complained about
the lackadaisical effort of this team quite a bit this year,
But defensively, the good Alabama teams of the past decade,
and especially those under Oats, have thrived off of you know,
hands on ball, steel open, Floyd Dunk, speed up the game,
Let's go, let's go, let's go. And they don't speed
up the game with their defense this year. A and
M does. A and M's one of the best turnover
forcing teams in the league. But Alabama protects the ball well.
The guards are really good. So I don't know how
much that's going to come into play tonight. It just
comes down to listen, a lot of this stuff and
I said it, yes, say when we get this deep
into conference play, a lot of these games are just situational.
You can almost throw your statistical stuff in the garbage
and just say, hey, listen, this is a spot play.
It's gonna work. Don't ask me why, I just know
it works. And that's probably what the reference to the
Twitter play of the day is here. Alabama's desperate, they
need it their home. A and M is you know,
coming in as the you know, over overachieving darling this year. Wow,
it's tough. Bettioco brings a certain presence underneath. But A
and M Adam, they haven't shown me a spot yet
where they've just walked in and been flat like like
they come to play every single game. I don't know
McMillan's getting the most out of all of these guys.
All that being said, I'm not surprised if Alabama wins
here tonight. I'm really not. Phillian and company hit some threes,
get that Coleman Coliseum rocking. We've seen it before. I'm
not involved in the game because I really didn't know
which way to go here. I looked at total, and
if I'm right, I'm going back to just see if
I can get the current total. I believe that total
was bit downward. No, that's actually sitting the same at
one seventy eight and a half. But for these guys
to get to one eighty would be no surprise. Actually
it is about a half point moved down from one
seventy nine to one seventy eight and a half, probably
in a good area. It's not It's a game to
watch for me, not a game to bet. I'm not
going to give eight and a half points or eight
points to Texas A and M tonight.
Speaker 3: Know how, no way, I know what.
Speaker 1: I know what Joey means when he says that he
listen if you if you were able to get Bama
minus six and a half down and in and and
like that's a really good bet. No, no one's no one,
I'm not We're not not making fun of that. That
what he's saying is this is the one that everyone
copies and paste throughout the day. And then they're you know,
they're giving it out at eight and a half, right
when it could have been six and a half, and well,
we'll say, oh, this is this my you know, it's
my play of the day. It's like, well, you missed
that by two points. But that's that's what I think
he means by that. Now, with all of that being said,
you get destroyed by Florida over the weekend. Gators drop
one hundred on Bamo over the weekend, one hundred and seventy,
one hundred and seventy seven.
Speaker 3: Crushed inside.
Speaker 1: Obviously, that Florida front court as good as as good
as you're gonna find in the country. I do think
there's some merit to this game now being in Tuscaloosa.
It's it they're you know, Texas A and M's not
really gonna do that. They're gonna let them get in transition. Bamo,
as we know, loves to play in transition, so so
I do. I do think it's it's safe to say
everything is sort of working in Bama's favor here in
terms of like how they would want a game to
be set up. They're they're playing at home, They're gonna
probably get a bunch of transition. Looks, it's a game
that should favor them. At the same time, though, Texas
A and M's is playing good. So for me, I'm
with you, Rob, I have no interest in I'm not
gonna be playing this game. I really don't want. I
really don't want to give Texas A and M that
kind of number. I'll tell you what there was. There
was one off, off hand similar thing where every everyone
kind of piled onto the one side. I think it
was Tennessee saying that that was a terrible matchup for
Texas A and M.
Speaker 3: And Texas A and M.
Speaker 1: I believe took them into ot and lost. I think
that was their only loss in conference play. They were
roughly like a nine. I think they ended up. I
think it was like a nine point favorite. It steamed
all the way up to eleven and a half. Oh,
this is a horrible matchup for A and M.
Speaker 3: They're on the road.
Speaker 1: Terrible matchup terrible spot A and I went into OT
in that game and should have won, and that's their
only conference loss to this point. So again I think
you know it's but this is one where I'm not
going to sit here and tell you to take Texas
A and M because I do see a lot of
stuff that favors Alabama. But I will go with your sentiment, Rob,
you know, do you Texas A and M playing good ball?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 3: Do you really want to lay that many point? You know?
Do you want to?
Speaker 2: Even?
Speaker 1: Why not pick one of the other games on the board.
There's plenty of them, So interesting discussion there. Alright, let's see,
I I'm trying.
Speaker 3: To think of what I want to do here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll do it.
Speaker 3: I'll give it up.
Speaker 1: I Someone said, I've been generous, Rob, Someone said, I've
been generous with the client plays. And the nice part
about basketball season, the nice part about college basketball as
opposed to like the other my other main sport, which
is baseball, there's just so many more plays. So it's
like it's so much easier to come on and give
out a best bet a client play. Because I know
I'm not I'm not really, I'm not really messing up
the integrity of the service because you know, I'm gonna
have four plays on a day like this, whereas like
in the base during baseball season, it's tough to come
out and give out the client place because I might
only end up with one play right on a given day.
Speaker 3: So I'll go.
Speaker 1: Ahead, I was, I was. I haven't put this up
for sale yet. It will be one of my four
percenters today. I do plan to have multiple again today
because it's a great slate and there's so many different ways.
Speaker 3: You can go with it.
Speaker 1: But we'll head We'll head out west, the Mountain West.
I gave out a Mountain West client played best fit
last night that fell short, so I'm gonna try to
redeem myself here rob I took the new Mexico Lobos
minus one thirty. I think it might be a little
bit higher than that now. I put this in maybe
like half hour an hour before the show. They are
at home tonight against Utah State. It's one of the
games of the day in college basketball, so we should
be talking about it anyway. That is a four percent
client play for me. I love the Lobos at home here.
I got to go to this building last year. I
give them full marks for home core all the time.
What a place that was. That is as good of
a college basketball atmosphere that you're gonna find. And then
the final thing I'll say before I kick it over
to you to sort of break down this game. Eric
Ollen last year beat Utah State when he was at
UC San Diego. He comes over to New Mexico. He
brings one of the key guys from that game with him,
Dayton Albury, and now he's at home. Huge environment, huge
home spot. And the final thing, I don't think they
tax this one properly. We talked about that yesterday with Boise, Like,
I feel like New Mexico probably should be a bigger
favorite here simply because they're at home. Like the bump
that they typically would get for home court is not
as big as I expected it to be here. So
minus one thirty, I just need New Mexico to win.
They haven't lost on this floor yet this year. That's
a client play for me. Are you are you with
me or against me? On the lobos?
Speaker 2: You know where the tax is concerned. It's just not
as flashy this year, right, Eric Oland. It's not the
they're scoring points, they're just not scoring points. I guess
when you expected them in the Richard Patino and in
prior editions, you expected them to be a high flying offense,
and then they were. The tax comes on. But here
under Eric Oland, they started off slow, and I got
to say, thinking about this game a lot this morning,
I got a boatload of notes on it. But they've
come along almost under the radar here Adam New Mexico
until now at this point in time where they're almost
hitting the rest of the mountain west over the head
with a shovel. At this point in time, quiet, quiet, quiet,
and bang the way they're playing right now, Dalton Albert
excuse me, I'm Dayton Albert. It is funny. He's the
starting point guard for Utah State last year and now
he's the starting point guard for New Mexico. Simplistically, I
had written down to my notes. Could be a game
where one side says stop MJ. Collins, Stop Utah State.
The other side says stop J Call stop New Mexico.
You know, both shooting guards are so good for both teams.
We won't go into all of their statistics that they
put up this year, but I mean MJ. Collins is
all everything. Jay Call has been all everything for the
for the other side and for New Mexico. I mean,
and I've seen him quite a bit as of late
the production there. We talked a lot about freshmen, right
but you wouldn't talk about these freshmen. You know, tomaslav
Buon at center for New Mexico, but every time I
turn him on, he's playing outstanding basketball. And right now,
for what it's worth, he's top ten in the nation
in both offensive rebounding percentage and defensive rebounding percentage. Talk
about a guy in the middle that just totally controls
the glass. One of your best, if not the best
rebounder on a personal level in the country right now.
Of course Hall's a freshmen. They've got another combo guard,
Ryah Tennett, who plays both positions and has played like
the second most percentage of minutes on the team. He's
brought all these freshmen along. They played really good defense.
I'm just going to give you because I'm big on
comp games, and let's just add to this situation that
Utah State is off of San Diego State, right that's
going to be your big, maximum focus type game. Utahs
State san Diego State. They won that game. Now they
travel to a team that, actually I don't know. You
could argue they're better than San Diego or at least
just as good as San Diego State this year. But
I just want to talk about the New Mexico offense
for a second because it goes unnoticed. Seven to one
team total over their last eight games eighty ninety one,
eighty seven, eighty three, eighty eighty nine, ninety The one
game that they didn't get to eighty in the last
state was against San Diego State, who's known to be
a great defensive team, and they got the seventy nine.
They almost got eighty against San Diego State, So the
offense way overlooked here comp game here in the pit.
They destroyed Grand Canyon eighty seven sixty four. They beat
Fresno State. The reason why I bring up Fresno State,
they're one of the top four defensive teams in the conference,
as is Utah State. All the good defensive teams San
Diego State, Grand Canyon, Fresno State. The only one I'm
not including there was Utah State because they haven't played
them yet in New Mexico themselves. New Mexico's offense has
scored big on all these teams. Utah State had real
difficulty with Grand Canyon. You know, that end of it
points me towards New Mexico. And there's the other piece
of me that says, you know what, Utah States got
way more options to score the basketball. But then I
stopped myself because had Utah State before Adam. They don't
shoot free throws very well. There's only a couple of
guys on Utah State that you can put on the
free throw line and think you're gonna get both free throws.
The rest of them not so much. I think I
would leave New Mexico here situationally based. I think I
would lead New Mexico here based on prior results against
really good defenses. And I think I would lead New
Mexico here simply because Eric Olin. You see San Diego
last year, that team wound up being everybody's darling, right
and under the radar, he's bringing New Mexico to the
same heights that with better players that he did at
San Diego last year. So I agree kind of with
the line movement up here. A great, great game, but
I just think, you know, the scheduling spot here probably
favors New Mexico along with a couple other things.
Speaker 1: Yeah, first of all, I missed Ski Profit in the chat.
Speaker 2: What's up? Ski?
Speaker 3: I got the super chat checked off.
Speaker 1: I need the Ski Profit is here box checked because
you know, and that's that's a credit to you guys.
The chat is popping off today and it's going so
quickly that it's just scrolling through. I missed him. I
missed him here he said. He said he had usc
the other last night. That's great, and he had Fresno State.
What that is a that that was just an insane
uh last thirty seconds of that game. If you missed that,
I think Fresno State was down six and then somehow
was in the position to win. Like at the buzzer,
it was a wild finish for that game. As far
as the final thing, I'll say about this one, maybe
I'm a little bit biased because I went to the
pit last year. That place is just insane. They will
have it will be sold out. It is going to
be their big one of their biggest games of the year.
It is extremely intimidating. I was there for for New Mexico,
absolutely mopping the floor with Boise. New Mexico hasn't lost
in this building yet this year, interestingly, they don't. They
they've only covered I think they're only like five six
or six and five against the spread at home. But
that's that's I guess the point I wanted to make
at the beginning, where it's like you usually have to
lay at least a couple of possessions when you when
you back New Mexico at home. Very rare do you
get New Mexico at home where you just need to
win the game. But and rightfully so, Utah State deserves
that kind of respect.
Speaker 3: They're a very good basketball team. In this case, you
only need to win the game.
Speaker 1: Finally, the thing I think I like the most about
this rob it did take some effort to beat San
Diego State over the weekend. That was a high effort,
high focus type game. You know, seventy one to sixty six.
It wasn't easy. You know, it was a game that
they they probably had a lot of sort of attention
and focus put into, especially after recent losses to Grand
Canyon and to UNLV and so I just think having
to turn around and go to the pit after that
is very difficult. So I took the home team minus
one thirty that will be my parlay league as well.
All right, Rob, I'm gonna ask you if you if
you want to do a different game, let's talk about
the game you want to do. If you think you're
gonna use that Tulsa game, I'll go to the chat.
Speaker 3: So it's up to you. You're muted, though I am muted.
Speaker 2: You're right. I'm going to bring to the forefront a
team that we haven't talked about much, but I know
you referred to it as the team where you can't
pronounce anybody's name. But it's a team that's been making
me a lot of money quietly under the radar of
the last three games. That's Washington State, and I'm going
to play their offense one more time. I'll just go
back to the well. Those who have bought client packages
have seen Washington State as a play team. Total wise,
we've cashed them. It's the second time around for Washington
State against Oregon State. That's where we're going tonight. This
time it's in Oregon State in corballis the first time around.
Washington State scored eighty one again. This team right now,
they're one of the best offensive teams in this league.
Adam they've gone. Now the only team that has held
them below the number that they're asked to get to tonight,
which is seventy three and a half, So we need
seventy four to win. Their team total is seventy three
and a half. Here, Gonzaga kept them below that and
Seattle kept them below that, and the Seattle matchup it
happened twice. And I think that's just a matchup thing
with Seattle, right, They love to grind, they get you
in those games. Washington State's been able to avoid getting
into those types of games with other teams that are
sort of pedestrian style, but not as you know, poor shooting,
and I would say, willing to just run the shot
clock down as Seattle is. Seattle's is a different breed.
But here they're shooting inside this league third best from
two point, second best from three point, second best effective overall,
fourth best offensive efficient. See, they play with a little
bit of tempo to their game, which Oregon State doesn't
really like. And Oregon State just this isn't a typical
Oregon State like Wayne Tinkle type team. They don't play defense.
Second worst defensive team in the league only Pepperdine's worse.
So for me again, I know I play a lot
of bounce back and that don't often get into a
let's just say, sort of a groove where I'm playing
the same thing over and over and over again because
it's working. I should have done that last night with Yukon.
I sensed that Yukon was going to have another blowout
after what they did in the month of January. But
here with Washington State, it's just been going so smooth
with them scoring points. Just depend on to score points
they need seventy four here, Oregon State doesn't really defend
anybody that we should get enough shots up at the rim.
We've got three three point shooters on the floor that
shoot just about forty percent or better, two that definitely
shoot over forty, one that shoots near forty. And let
me just give you your guy, Adam Tomas thrust Starston.
He's a nice handy dude, but I had to go
and turn him on a couple of games ago just
to get the pronunciation right on his name. Ace Glass. Oh,
before these guys are scores, I'm gonna go that way.
Washington State team total up in over seventy three and
a half.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the other the I'm just gonna add one thing
and then we can get one more game in here
before the end of the show. But like, Washington State
played a tough non conference schedule, and they've come into
the league, they've come into league play, and they've already
had like some of their tougher games. So, you know,
I felt like they were a team that was probably
do a little like offensive positive regression coming into league
play just because of the you know, the non conference
slate they played that was was challenging relative to what
most teams in this league.
Speaker 3: Zaga doesn't count, Gonzaga and Saint Mary's are.
Speaker 1: Like not not you know what the majority of this
league is at this point. But they played a lot
of challenging games and then to come out and in
that first sort of three weeks of conference play have
to play at Saint Mary's, at San Francisco, Gonzaga, Seattle twice. Yeah,
they they may be getting into like the softer part
of their schedule a little bit here, and some of
those quote unquote softer games ninety five to Pepperdine, ninety
five against Pepperdine, one oh four against Portland, so, you know,
eighty one against Oregon State the first time around. So yeah, mate,
you know, it kind of makes sense that they'd be
able to have better offensive outputs against the lower half
of this league, especially because they've played so many tough
games to this point into the season. So I will
be rooting you on tonight. What was that number again?
You got there up.
Speaker 2: Seventy three and a half, And even to accentuate what
you just said, they went to Saint Mary's and scored
eighty two. They went to San Francisco and scored eighty.
It's really only ben Seattle and I guess it's a
matchup thing because it happened twice. And of course Gonzaga,
who you know, out personals everybody in that league. So yeah,
we'll stick with Washington State here. We'll stick with it.
If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Something we used
to or generally.
Speaker 3: And that was give you that number one more time. Sorry,
team total.
Speaker 2: Over seventy three and a half.
Speaker 3: Seventy three and a half.
Speaker 2: Okay, it's got a fifteen cents attached to it, Adam.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll make sure to note that and I'll do
the math on that in a second.
Speaker 1: We still have a couple of So it looks like
we're staying up late for the parlay today, both West
Coast games. Let's go to Let me just make sure
we didn't have any more super chat type deals here.
Let's see don't want to miss don't want to miss
any of those. I'm gonna just pick one of these
games here that's been requested at random and Rob.
Speaker 3: I think I'll go.
Speaker 1: Just trying to get a different Let's go to the
Let's go back to the SEC, Let's go to the
nine pm window. My question to you is Oklahoma ever
gonna win a basketball game again? This team, I believe,
is now lost eight straight and they have to They
hit the road tonight and had to Rup Arena and
it doesn't really look good for them breaking the losing
streak here. Although with that being said, I don't I
don't really care for Kentucky in this spot either. I'm
kind of leaning Sooners plus the point. So do you
like Oklahoma plus the points at all? And is there
any way they break their losing streak on the road tonight?
Speaker 2: I would say, really quick, the same thing I said
about Oklahoma last week. If in fact they just haven't
thrown in the towel and maybe looking for lightning in
a bottle Conference tournament time. Then I would like Oklahoma here.
What happened in Arkansas and Fayetteville the other day was
kind of a surprise. Kentucky walks in. Actually, Arkansas takes
the lead in the second half, and Kentucky shows a
little bit of fortitude, comes back and wins that game
and played up to probably what their potential is. But
they're so up and down at them. Who wants to
lay nine and a half with that team, because they're
the type of team that could come out tonight for
Mark Pope and get beat out right for all we know,
one thing Oklahoma will do is score points. Kentucky's not
adverse to allowing teams score to score points, So I
don't know my inclination would be because they're off the
Arkansas win, because they've been so middling all season long
that I would not want to lay nine and a
half points. I would rather take them. All that being said,
I really think that the movement on the total is correct.
One fifty one and a half up to one fifty
four and a half. Now I don't even think that's enough.
You probably get an over in necking.
Speaker 3: Robino.
Speaker 1: Someone, someone alert Marco D'Angelo, we have a sandwich spot
alert right here. They have the Uh this team just
had to play Vandy and Arkansas back to back. The
big win over Coach cal Over the weekend in Fayette
Bill eighty five to seventy seven, and this weekend they've
got Tennessee coming to town.
Speaker 3: Of course, that was the game. Not only is Tennessee.
Speaker 1: Cracked their way back into the top twenty five, but
that was the game about a week ago, maybe two
weeks ago that Kentucky had a you know, big or
they were down I think by eighteen, came all the
way back to win the game, little scuffle at the
end of the game. So so certainly a team that
is going to have Kentucky's like, you know that that game,
even though even though Kentucky ended up coming back and
winning that that game is a big deal to them,
especially how the first one ended and how intense that
second half was. So yeah, I am this one is
on the short list for me. I'm strongly considering the
Sooners here. You know, I had Arkansas against Oklahoma a
couple of weeks ago as a as a best bet.
Speaker 3: I felt somewhat fortunate to catch that one.
Speaker 1: I believe I was laying two and a half with
Arkansas and they kind of like got a big bucket
and a couple stops late to win that game.
Speaker 3: I think cover. I think they won by four.
Speaker 1: So man, it just feels like Oklahoma's got one in
them at some point, and this one's got quite a
big There's quite a lot of wiggle room here where
even if Oklahoma doesn't win, pretty good chance if they
play a respectable game, they cover the nine and a half.
Speaker 3: So I'm gonna be looking at the Sooners. I'll have to.
Speaker 1: I'll have to think about this one as the day goes.
But yeah, there that is a lot of points in
this game. All right, we'll recap it real quick. Just
a two teamer for us today, I will I think
we'll save. We'll save a three teamer for a mid
major Thursday Tomorrow we'll get crazy and fire a three teamer.
But for today, two team parlay. We've got New Mexico
on the money line. Call it minus one thirty and
you know, give or take, and then I will attach
the minus one fifty ten juice to our other league.
So New Mexico minus one thirty. Washington State team total
over seventy three and a half minus one fifteen. Sorry
for keeping it up late tonight because both of those
games are at eleven eleven pm Eastern.
Speaker 3: But I'll be up, 'rob.
Speaker 1: We'll be up, and then we'll be back here ten
am tomorrow morning for mid Major Thursday, more full court press.
Speaker 3: We'll see you guys then