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to break down what happened on the bye week Will

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BYU be healthy and strong?

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Speaker 4: Will they be prepped?

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Speaker 2: Will they be ready for a roadmatchup versus Texas Tech.

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Things are getting real and they're getting real fast here

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as we get into championship type of weekends. It could

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be BYU Texas Tech. It could be BYU Utah in

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a rivalry holy war in Arlington. Anything can happen at

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the hotline. Welcome in former bou Great the Quarterback Scientists.

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We got John Beck on the line. John, how the

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heck are you doing?

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Speaker 3: Good man? It's definitely feels like that's that championship time

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of the year, doesn't it.

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Speaker 4: Dude?

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Speaker 2: I get psyched about it, especially now that we're in

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a conference right like you know, we were a part

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of it, Mountain West Conference. It was awesome to be

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able to seal the championship, the regular season championship, you know,

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versus in two thousand and six versus New Mexico was awesome.

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But it's even at a greater scale now, right, college

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football has has changed significantly, and BYU with it. Now

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that Bilway's a part of the Big Boys club, it

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just means more and there's more eyeballs on BYU.

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Speaker 4: The branding, the imaging.

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Speaker 2: The equity that has been built from like nineteen seventy

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two to present day. Now it's finally really paying off

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for BYU.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this is an amazing time to be a student

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athlete at YU, to be a fan for BUYU. The

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Big Twelve Conference is an amazing conference, and November football

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is so exciting, especially when you're sitting there at no

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You're exactly right about being in a conference. It's fun

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to be paying attention to what's going on in other

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conference games. It's fun to know where you are in

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the standings and to be an undefeated team sitting at

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the top of the Big Twelve with a a huge

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game this weekend. As a competitor, as an athlete and

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as a fan of Billia football, it's just all great

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fields right now and November football, Like like we were saying,

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it's just such an amazing time of the year for

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all levels. You go to the high school level, it

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equals playoffs, go to the college level. It's that buying

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for those top spots, you know, the chance to play

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in the conference championship, And it's just such a great

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time right now to be a BIU fan. And I

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think that they've done such a great job of setting

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themselves up for what can really be maybe one of

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the best Novembers that the program has had in a long, long,

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long time.

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Speaker 4: One of the.

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Speaker 2: Difficult schedules that they're having to face two in this

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guntlet They started off with U of A on the road,

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Utah home. They beat Iowas State on the road. Now

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they get Texas Tech on the road. A Rod stated

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that this was the most difficult stretch of games in

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BYU football history, and by has been up to the task,

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having won three straight, one in overtime. One that was

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you know, pretty close versus Utah twenty four to twenty one,

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and then another one on the road versus Iowa State

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being down.

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Speaker 4: You no, not too.

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Speaker 2: Big in the first app but it seemed like it

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was very big in the first half. Now they got

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Texas Tech, TCU, Cincinnati, and UCF. How do you navigate

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this back end of the schedule in order to kind

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of just stay right, stay on task, you know, get healthy,

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be strong. Obviously, the the the bye week came at

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a very fratuitous time. How does BYU navigate this?

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Speaker 4: Do you think?

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Speaker 3: Well? I think the best way is to focus one

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day at a time, to not even look at the

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game that's ahead of you. I always try to tell guys,

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you know, when I'm especially speaking with quarterbacks going into

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big games. Let the game be Saturday. You focus on Monday,

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you focus on Tuesday, you focus on Wednesday. All of

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those things lead up to the game. What can be

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something that pulls you away from it is when you

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start feeling all of the pressures, the worries or whatever

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you need to think about because of the Saturday game,

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the impact. You know, it's like an Olympian going to

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the Olympics. You don't want to think about the week

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of the Olympic, the what ifs. What if it plays

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out this way? What if my training and all of

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this this happens, or what if it doesn't play out

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in the first you know, like let's say it's an

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event where you have like a preliminary and then a finals.

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and then what you don't want to think about the

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what ifs. What you do is you put the work

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in each day of the week and then you just

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let it happen. It's the same with conference play. It

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would be so easy right now. And I think this

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is what fans enjoy. This is why we have talk shows,

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is because you can talk about all the different scenarios. Okay,

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you know, look what happened when we beat Utah, And

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look what happened now that Utah went and beat Cincinnati

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and people thought that Cincinnati might be vying for a

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conference you know, title game, and now because they lost,

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and then after beat Iowa State, Iowa State loses again.

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what is the most important thing. And the most important

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thing on a Monday is preparation Monday and Monday's football practice.

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day of the week just like that. I think it's

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a competitive advantage to the team that has the most

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players and coaches that have that ability to do that

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they can keep the main thing, the main thing and

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just focus on that. And for a BYU team that yes,

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quite honestly, the road ahead of them, like they have

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a big one this weekend, and if they can get

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through that, I think that all of those games that

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are after this they're going to be favored in. And

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so it would be very easy to say, oh my gosh,

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if we can get through Texas Tech, it is a

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road to the conference championship game. And the key is

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to not even worry about that, to let the fans

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think about those things, let them get excited. But as

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a player, you walk in Monday morning and all you

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Speaker 4: YU versus Texas Tech this week.

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Speaker 2: I'm feeling that BA you should be healthier than they

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have been over the last three weeks.

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Speaker 4: I think LJ will be ready to go.

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year than they have been. But Texas Tech is no joke.

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and other than that they've had dominating victories. Like I

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don't know, I'm looking at the closest scores. That may

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have been the Utah game. That was the closest game

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that they've had. Outside of that one loss, everybody else

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they've beaten by like twenty one plus points every single game.

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Speaker 4: What do we know about Texas Tech.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I remember watching the ASU Texas Tech game

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being somebody I like yourself from the state of Arizona,

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great state of Arizona. You know, I grew up watching

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Arizona State football. I still follow ASU football and knowing

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what was being talked about about this Texas Tech team,

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the amount of money that they put into the program,

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the players that they brought in, the fact that they

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were they're going to be on BYU schedule. I paid

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attention to that game, and Texas Tech came out to

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jump and went ahead on Arizona, and then Arizona State

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put together this big comeback at the end, and you

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know what does some of it have to do. It's

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a home game and away game for Texas Tech. A

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little bit that was still early in the season. I

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think it's going to be interesting to see what it

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does when now Texas Tech and both of these teams

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are on this gigantic stage. I know by Youth played

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a big new kickoff game before, but you know, hey,

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this is college game Day, this is on the road,

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this is I'm trying to think the last time game

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day went to Texas Tech. It's got to be almost

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probably way back in the Mahomes era, my guess, in

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some of those games. I mean, it might have even

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been the game when the Baker Mayfield and Patrick Mahomes

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went off for like twelve hundred yards of offense, somewhere

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around that era. But you know, it's going to be

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interesting to see how it shakes down now when both

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of these teams. It feels like there's so much on

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the line. I think for a player like Bear, who

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is still green in terms of college football, He's only

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played eight college football games. Sometimes he's walking out on

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the field and he may just feel like, you know what,

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I'm just going to do what I've always done. I'm

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just going to go out there and be one of eleven.

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I'm going to play the best I can. And you know,

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I think Bear does a great job because it's all

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new to him of just you know what, what can

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I do. I've got nothing to worry about. I'm just

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going to go out there play what I can play.

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it's you know, definitely an exciting game I mean, I

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wish I could get to the stadium in that environment.

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I think it's going to be amazing for the BIU

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fans that travel there to be a part of that.

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Speaker 2: No doubt about it, John, we've seen progress from Bear,

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it seems week over week. This last game on the road,

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he threw for a lot of yards and was very accurate,

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was very good. What have you seen specifically in his

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progress that makes you optimistic that he can head out

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on the road after a bye week and be just

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as good or even better than what he's showcased thus far.

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Speaker 3: Well, I think bye weeks always help you become just

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a little healthier. I think those guys, as you know,

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this time of year, you're playing with something, whether it's

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dealing with bruising in an area that you can't get

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to go away because you keep getting hit on it.

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bye week, it's not ability to just be a little

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more fresh, to let the body heal. And I know,

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look with how much Bears ran the football, I guarantee

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his body's been beat up a little bit, you know,

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without divulging too much information, he's just like everybody else where,

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he's having to play through some things, and so I

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think it's going to be really good for him to

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get healthy. I think Bear has done such a good

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job in decision making, and we've talked about it multiple

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times on the show of just how good he's done

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at it's going to sound silly, but taking good sacks

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and taking off and running with the football when nothing's there,

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and not trying to do too much, especially laid in games. Right.

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play from behind him the fourth quarter, and it's very

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easy as a young quarterback to take some of the

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end up not working out. I see that constantly. Bear's

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just done such a good job again of recognizing is

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and live to play the next play. And I think

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of Bear, the ability to step on a field and

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remain calm, the ability to be in a shootout in

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a college game, and to what I think is Bear

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is just used to this. He's just used to being

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in shootouts because that was literally his high school scenario

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ninety percent of the time, and he's doing it on

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a big stage. I think all of those will benefit

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him this Saturday.

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Speaker 2: What's crazy is you've talked about this from the inception

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of the Bear Bachmeyer era. You said, Bear Bachmeyer throughout

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his entire high school career just found a way to

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win lat In games through you through but also most

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definitely with his running ability. And we continue to see that,

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like he hasn't really changed much. Like the Bear Bachmeyer

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brand is what it is, It's who he is, and

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I'm surprised it's translating to the collegiate level.

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Speaker 4: It doesn't always do that, you know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean here's what I would say. This is

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one of the really cool things about how good this

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BYU football team is and also what this BYU team

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was before Bear got here. This was again, without divulging

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too much information, this is what was part of the

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conversations leading up to Bear looking at BYU was just

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look at how BYU has utilized abilities in the Jaron Halls,

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the j k ret Slash, the Zach Wilson's and how

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Bear's game. That's what his game has been in high

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school football. I mean, you can go to the kids

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highlight tape, or you can look at the stats and

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late in games, go look and see how his legs

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contributed to either keeping his team in the game or

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helping his team win the game. And then so to

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go and place him in a scheme where Aaron utilizes

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that ability with his quarterbacks. I mean, go look at

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some of Jake Retslav's games in his start and how

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his legs helped the team or how the designed You know,

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you have these quick outlet passes or screen passes and

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if they're not there, you take off, and they built

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in QB draw. The line is blocking QB draw, but

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there's quick throws on the edges, and based off of

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the shell and numbers, you either throw the quick pass

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or you take off on the draw. That has fit

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so well in what Bear is doing because it's what

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Bear has always done, and so I think like you

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could not have asked for a better scheme fit with

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also experienced players around him, Like this is not an

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offense that's only been here doing this for a year

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or two. What can be tricky is when a new

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offensive coordinator is trying to instill his offense in players

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that were recruits or that were built by the old system,

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the system that has been at UIU for a long time.

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The players understand it well, you know, it's just the

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timing that's probably the best word, the timing of what

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Bear brings. Because of his experience and what this offense

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has been building, it came together in the right timing

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so well.

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Speaker 2: John Beck here on esp and the Fan. This segment

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Speaker 4: John.

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Speaker 2: The supporting cast has also buoyed up Bear.

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Speaker 4: In my opinion, LJ.

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Speaker 2: Martin got a little deemed up last this last game

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versus Iowa State.

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Speaker 4: LJ.

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Speaker 2: Martin exits the game in the first quarter, Yet a

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Rod and Bear and the supporting cast that remained found

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a way to put up offensively. You know, thirty four points, right,

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You had the defensive score that maybe changed the tides,

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but this offense was actually very productive, very efficient. What

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does that say about a Rod and his play calling,

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ability to have a running back who has essentially been

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the bell cow back and the core of what this

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offense does from an identity standpoint, him ultimately finding a

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way to win without him.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, it's trust. I feel like this was a

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game where they were able to say, Okay, we just

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lost LJ. We're still going to be able to utilize Bear.

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We're going to put Preston back there, a little bit

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different style of back, but time to do the trust

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thing where we're gonna go out there. We're going to

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win this game playing the style of football where we're

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going to throw it for you know, three hundred plus yards.

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We're going to do the things that we have in

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our offense that we haven't had to lean on all

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of the time. But we're going to lean on him

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right now. And I trust that, and and you know what,

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and it showed and I know that, like, well, you know, here,

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here's what's going to happen. There's also going to be

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in the conversation what these teams, like the Iowa States,

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you know, I know that for some oh well, Iowa

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State went out and lost the next game, maybe they're

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not quite the team everybody thought they would at the

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end of the day. Playing on the road at Iowa

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State has been a tough place for a lot of teams,

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and BYU was down early and they had to find

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a way to come back and win. You can't take

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that away from a team just because of the outcome

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of a game the following week. What they did in

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that moment of time, how they had to kind of

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place more on bear shoulders, how a lot of the

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guys stepped up and really made a lot of plays

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in the past game. That's still what BYU is capable

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of doing against any opponent, and it's probably going to

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have to show up this Saturday. You know, Texas Tech

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really is a very strong defensive team. They went out

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and brought guys in, spent a lot of money, and

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they really bolstered their defense. It's going to be a

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challenge for BYU, but it's going to be great because

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these are the types of games that you find out.

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Are we the type of team that can go out

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there and win the Big twelve, go into a collegiate

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playoff game and win that game. Those type of games

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take everything. So if I'm a part of this team,

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if I'm on that staff, I'm saying the opportunity that

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we had to go out and play a game that

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second half without LJ and make the plays that we did,

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that shows us what we are capable of in those

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games where we're gonna need all of the weapons that

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we have. Right. I mean, Ben, you remember that conversation

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we had back in the Bronco era, right when he

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had big team meeting about are you using all of

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your weapons? Right? When I look at teams, that has

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always stuck with me. You want to go win big games,

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you want to go beat really good teams, you have

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to be using all of your weapons. And so to me,

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that Iowa State game was a game that BYU got

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to sharpen some of its other weapons.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I love that that perspective. John. A couple last

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things before we let you go. LJ.

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Speaker 2: Martin's injury to me, now, I'm a physician, but I

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work with a lot of physicians, and I stayed at

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a holiday in last night. It looked like an ac

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joint injury, and they pulled them right, so it could

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have been something worse. But he wasn't like holding his

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shoulder in a way that tells me that it was

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like dislocated or whatever. You I know, you've been in

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the exercise physiology world. You've taken all of your your

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your classes and have your certifications, et cetera. As a

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as a biomechanical coach, but also a person that's familiar

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with the human anatomy.

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Speaker 4: AC joint separations.

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Speaker 2: To me, grade two, grade three, you have a little

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bit of pain there, but you can play through those, right,

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those aren't all that serious if it is an AC

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joint separation.

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Speaker 3: I would say players that are non throwers, you can

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play through AC separations. The impact. You know, they'll shoot

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you up to try to numb it as best they

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can depending on the grade. Some trainers like to use

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also a tape job to kind of help alleviate that

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distance where that that ligament is is spraying or torn.

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You know a lot of the times you can see

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that clasical kind of like sitting up for a thrower.

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This is where it gets. It's interesting. I played through

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an AC separation my sophomore year and had to get

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shot up for a handful of games. There's different levels.

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Some guys they can have very mild AC separations, and

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they don't have the same overhead pain. They fill it

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a little bit, but some of them have more of

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a pain kind of at extension and as if you

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were to raise your arm in front of your body

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and then start to cross to your opposite side, you

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can get a little pinching pain there. Those type of

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guys can still go out and throw the football at

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practice and all they feel is like a little mild

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that bothers a little bit. Other guys when they separate

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their shoulder Grade two maybe even some like grade ones,

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that can be really painful. You can't even get your

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shirt on. You're in a lot of pain just trying

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to put your arm in a position to get your

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shirt on. And so to go out at practice as

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a thrower, it is super painful. And so, but the

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team doesn't want to shoot you up for practice. They

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don't want to shoot you up for a game. So

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your practice reps really get hindered because if your inability

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to throw the ball like you normally do. And so

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you know the whole AC separation. I've been around a

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lot of receivers, a lot of linemen, a lot of

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running backs. Man, they just shoot it up played through it,

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they're the same person. Well, practice quarterbacks, that's where you

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see some of the biggest thing, Like if they're unable

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to go out and practice the same way, that has

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a great effect on the whole team because of what

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practice looks like. And then they go out in games

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and I remember the first time I got shot up,

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I was like, what in the world. I feel like

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I have noodle arm and I'm trying to like be

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accurate in a pregame warm up and the coach is like, hey,

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how you feeling well? I have the ability to move

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my arm now, but man, it's just tough. I'm not

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really accurate. And so that's the kind of the balance

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between throwers and non throwers of AC's. Everybody is capable

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of playing through an AC because you're gonna get it

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shot up, but there is an impact whether you're a

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thrower or non thrower throughout the week of.

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Speaker 2: Practice BYU's offense is going to have to continue to

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put up points. Texas Tech knows knows how to score

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points offensively sixty seven, sixty two, forty five, thirty four,

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thirty five, forty two. Their lowest was twenty two on

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the road versus ASU and that loss, but it was

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only a four point game. They beat Oklahoma State forty

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two to zero, and then they just beat Kansas State

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forty three to twenty. Can this BYU offense keep pace

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with this Texas Tech Red Raiders offense?

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Speaker 4: Is the question?

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Speaker 3: Well, I'm really excited to see what our defense does.

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I know that that was kind of an offensive question

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about the offense, what they're capable of doing. You know,

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I think so much of it is going to be

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what our defense is going to do to that offense.

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You know, this is an interesting case because Texas Tech

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started the season with one quarterback, going back to that

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ASU game. I actually think that when they kind of

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came out the gates rolling a little bit, I wonder

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if they were believing a little bit of maybe their

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own press of like, man, we are a really good team.

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Look we're just steamrolling right now. In the beginning of

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the game, Arizona State team that won the Big Twelve

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last year, and then the tides turned. But then they

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lose their quarterback. The backup steps in plays and now

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he's injured. They go back to their quarterback, and if

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my memory is right, I didn't get to see the

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entire Kansas State game. I got to catch parts of

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it here there between my kids' games, But I don't

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think it was a smooth road the entire time. There

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was a time in the game where it was very

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tight versus Kansas State, and Texas Tech was having a

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little bit of a tough time offensively to be consistent,

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and then because of some turnovers, Like I'm pretty sure

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there was a couple turnovers in that game that really

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turned things in Kansas State then kind of fell apart

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a little bit and Texas Tech ran away with it.

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But I'm really curious what is our BIU defense going

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to look like against a team and now a quarterback

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that is in his second start coming back from the injury.

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Time off for quarterbacks sometimes can be good and sometimes

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can be really difficult when you get thrust back into it.

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So I think so much of this how I'm going

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to answer the question offensively, I think so much much

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of what our offense is going to look like will

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be dictated by what our defense is doing and how

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they're handling the Texas Tech offense. Because there may be

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some schematic things where you can say our ability to

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potentially run the football well with LJ and Bear and

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the other running backs. If we can run the ball well,

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that keeps their offense off of the field, and there

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could be a time of possession game going on if

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BYU's defense is doing a really, really good job. And

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so to me, like as a play caller, so much

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of how you call a game is dependent on the

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other phases as well. Special teams to me, special teams.

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Speaker 2: All right, sounds like we may have lost John, But

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I think the last thing that he was saying is

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intriguing to me, though he's more intrigued by what the

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defense can do to steymy that prolific Texas Tech red

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Raider offense. And I was looking at sp plus rankings

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and efficiency metrics here. They were published yesterday Texas Tech

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offense ranks ninth in the country, their defense is eighth,

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and their special teams is eightieth. Interesting, you heard John

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say special teams.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 2: BYU's offense is twenty fifth in the nation, sixteenth on defense,

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and then number six on special teams. What has BYU

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done so effectively this season? Complementary football, finding a way

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to win games in a I would say a traditional

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football since then, even an untraditional football, since complimentary football

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has always been a part of the game. We tend

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to focus so much on offense, sometimes defense, but never

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the special teams unit. BYU's special teams unit has been

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a leade under Kelly Papinga. Also, Jay Hill was an

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elite special teams coach once upon a time before becoming

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a head coach at Weaver State, so he oversees some

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of that special teams as well.

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Speaker 4: That could be the differentiator.

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Speaker 2: That's the same thing or the same reasons why by

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you found a way to win versus Utah a few

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weeks ago. It was through special teams and I'd say,

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just complimentary football. Guys, great segment. We're gonna take a

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