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<v Speaker 4>Thornton's is so adaptable. I could see them having some

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<v Speaker 2>You know what they might even And I just don't

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<v Speaker 2>realize it, to be honest with you, because I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>it would make sense if they do.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, because that's not that uncommon.

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<v Speaker 2>In fact, uh, there has to be all kinds of

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<v Speaker 2>and really, I mean it's mostly Tesla and uh, those

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<v Speaker 2>cars look like super cool. But I don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>I could ever I mean, I don't know if I would

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<v Speaker 2>ever need one or want one, But like, I do

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<v Speaker 2>think they're cool.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just just not for me.

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<v Speaker 4>I think they look the cyber truck in person is

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<v Speaker 4>so cool. It looks like a dufest design online. But like,

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<v Speaker 4>I've started to see them a lot more around the

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<v Speaker 4>city and I look at them and.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, as cool as hell.

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<v Speaker 4>They're they're tanks, dude, They're awesome. But everybody that everyone

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<v Speaker 4>just has a problem with Elon Musk and they just

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<v Speaker 4>think that I mean, I guess he is a mastermind

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<v Speaker 4>behind all of it. But they do look pretty cool.

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<v Speaker 4>They're futuristic. We're going into a minimalistic society nowadays, and

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<v Speaker 4>it just it's just it's just a car. There's nothing

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<v Speaker 4>fancy about it. But I've seen people get them wrapped

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<v Speaker 4>where they have cool uh, like where they have cool

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<v Speaker 4>designs on them, and they're pretty bad ass.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember I saw I saw one for the first

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<v Speaker 2>time over the summer. I guess it was actually closer

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<v Speaker 2>towards the Bring, and I was when I was traveling

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<v Speaker 2>to Arkansas. We stopped in Missouri and stayed in a

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<v Speaker 2>little town and there were a couple of them were together,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess two people that had them and and I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>it's time maybe, but it looks just so awesome and

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<v Speaker 2>just something like something you've never seen before that you

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I was kind of in all just like

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<v Speaker 2>staring like that looks like a spaceship kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 4>They're like halfway like indestructible to you.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm sure look before, you know, if we live

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<v Speaker 2>a long life, I would imagine that by the time

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<v Speaker 2>we're getting closer to ending these long lives, they'll be everywhere.

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<v Speaker 2>Like that's just kind of that's probably gonna be, How're yep,

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<v Speaker 2>no doubt. All right, So we've got a couple of

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<v Speaker 2>basketball games tomorrow that I know folks around here are

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<v Speaker 2>are interested in, and really, you know, not a whole

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<v Speaker 2>lot to gain for either team this weekend, and certainly

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<v Speaker 2>a lot to lose, given uh, how the schedule sets up.

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<v Speaker 3>But obviously the super.

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<v Speaker 2>Bowl is coming up on Sunday, and we'll get back

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<v Speaker 2>into that a little bit later on. I want to

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<v Speaker 2>talk about some of the prop bets and and really

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<v Speaker 2>just sort of what what appears to be most likely

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<v Speaker 2>to play out here and in the Super Bowl. I

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<v Speaker 2>can't really and I'm sure I'm just blanking on it,

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<v Speaker 2>but I was thinking about it during the break. Have

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<v Speaker 2>we got us? Have we had a Super Bowl result

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<v Speaker 2>in recent years that like really stunned us because I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like, more often than not, when we go in,

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<v Speaker 2>we know, like when's the less time, like the overwhelming favorite?

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<v Speaker 2>And really, I guess there are many overwhelming favorites. But

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<v Speaker 2>like currently, let's see, like, do you know what the

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<v Speaker 2>current spread is right now?

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<v Speaker 4>Is it's still one and a half two, It's still

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<v Speaker 4>one and a half right now.

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<v Speaker 2>According to DraftKings it is Kansas City minus one and

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<v Speaker 2>a half. So again, like, nobody's the overwhelming favorite. But

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<v Speaker 2>the Chiefs are the are the betting favorite, and I

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<v Speaker 2>believe they are. They're the team who most people think

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<v Speaker 2>will win, even if they don't want it to happen.

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<v Speaker 2>So you know what I was getting at is I

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<v Speaker 2>think NFL teams, even though it's the ultimate stage, it's

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<v Speaker 2>the biggest event in sports, and it's a chance to really,

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<v Speaker 2>if you're an pack player, kind of change your legacy.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're a part of a winning Super Bowl team.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean that's a big deal. So despite all that,

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<v Speaker 2>these teams usually come in are the same teams they've

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<v Speaker 2>been all year, right, I mean maybe they maybe they

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<v Speaker 2>don't have a good game necessarily, but I think for

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<v Speaker 2>the most part, you kind of know what you're going

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<v Speaker 2>to get from teams once you get to the Super Bowl,

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<v Speaker 2>and I would imagine it's going to be a competitive game.

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<v Speaker 2>And in those situations, guess who's really good in close

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<v Speaker 2>competitive games down the stretch The Chiefs and Patrick Mahomes.

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<v Speaker 4>So I would like to think that the last shocker

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<v Speaker 4>would probably be twenty seventeen when the Eagles finally won

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<v Speaker 4>it just because they beat the Patriots.

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<v Speaker 3>Shocker, it doesn't matter, I see what you did?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean shocker, Honor cowk Brunner.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Conn, I don't know her.

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<v Speaker 4>But I would have I would have to say the

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<v Speaker 4>Eagles just because it was it was Nick Foles, yeah right?

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<v Speaker 3>What about the Rams one? Who did they beat the Bengals?

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<v Speaker 3>That's right?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>And that was that was both well I mean sold

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<v Speaker 3>yes exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>And and and another thing is that the like the

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<v Speaker 2>Rams were, they were the better team and it wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>as big of a surprise that they were there, so

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<v Speaker 2>when they did win, it was like, yeah, I guess

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<v Speaker 2>it makes sense that the Bengals finally ran out of gas.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, I can't.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean the last like real big shocker that I

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<v Speaker 2>remember in the Super Bowl as far and really there

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<v Speaker 2>aren't that many like wow, can you believe that happened?

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<v Speaker 2>Because very rarely do you have a team that randomly

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<v Speaker 2>gets to the Super Bowl. They're usually pretty good. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>the Falcons had a good year and made it all

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<v Speaker 2>the way there, and then of course they remembered for

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<v Speaker 2>the ultimate choke job. We were in we were watching

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<v Speaker 2>something that I thought was gonna gonna end up being

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<v Speaker 2>a real overwhelming result because again the Patriots were getting

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<v Speaker 3>And then then one so, uh, I think it'll be

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<v Speaker 3>competitive in.

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<v Speaker 4>The Giants one where they beat the undefeated Patriots helmet catch.

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<v Speaker 3>So that was the one I was going to go

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<v Speaker 3>back to.

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<v Speaker 2>But I was trying to think before then, and maybe

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<v Speaker 2>this is just how I remember it because I was

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<v Speaker 2>so disappointed. But when the Saints beat the Colts, Peyton

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<v Speaker 2>and the Colts were great that year, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and the Saints were. The Saints were also good, but

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you had the you had the Colts coming

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<v Speaker 2>off of their first Super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 3>Just what a couple of years before that?

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<v Speaker 1>Hmm?

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe it was was it the year before that the

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<v Speaker 3>Colts because they want it in.

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<v Speaker 4>Two thousand and seven, right, and then it was it

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<v Speaker 4>was two thousand. It was two thousand and nine that that, so, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>it was two thousand and seven. I can't remember.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's what the freaking Philip Rivers and the Chargers

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<v Speaker 2>beat them in in the playoffs in two thousand and

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<v Speaker 2>seven and also two thousand and eight, and let's.

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<v Speaker 3>See what year did they win at all?

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<v Speaker 2>It's so it's listed as two thousand and six, two

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<v Speaker 2>thousand and six, right, yeah, when they beat the Bears

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<v Speaker 2>and it was the next yeah, so then they had

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<v Speaker 2>they had two straight years losing to the Chargers because

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<v Speaker 2>Philip Rivers had had our number.

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<v Speaker 3>I hated that guy.

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<v Speaker 2>And then it was in two thousand and nine when

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<v Speaker 2>they lost to the Saints. And again like again that.

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<v Speaker 4>Hank basket not holding on to that on sidekick.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, do you remember you about the one they

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<v Speaker 3>did at halftime?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? Does that?

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<v Speaker 2>Like Sean Pats those are the kind of guys that

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, yea, I'm not even playing mad with you anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>Like let's let's be real here, like you know.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I just and that was a brilliant move

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<v Speaker 2>and he would do it, and you know, I hated it.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, that that team that year that won the

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<v Speaker 2>Super Bowl, they were really good. They were thirteen and three.

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<v Speaker 2>So but again, I just feel like because of Peyton

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<v Speaker 2>and they had just won a couple of years prior,

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<v Speaker 2>they were the more established team that I would imagine

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, again, I could remember it wrong, but I

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<v Speaker 2>would imagine that the fourteen and two.

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<v Speaker 3>Colts that year were probably probably favorite.

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<v Speaker 4>Cardinals almost had it the year before up against that

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<v Speaker 4>was one of the best Super Bowls.

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<v Speaker 3>That was a really good game, and that was there.

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<v Speaker 4>Were like nine and eights.

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<v Speaker 3>Is that Kurt Warner with the Cardinals.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Kurt Warner was at the very Kurt corner from

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<v Speaker 4>bagging groceries to almost win in a Super Bowl. Larry

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<v Speaker 4>Fitzgerald capped off probably the best postseason a wide receiver

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<v Speaker 4>has ever had. And I remember living in Arizona at

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<v Speaker 4>the time and going to sports bar. I'm watching it.

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<v Speaker 4>I've never seen so much craziness and so much hecticness,

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<v Speaker 4>and Bill Ben Roethlisberger officially entered into that that soul

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<v Speaker 4>snatcher type of quarterback, developing that last drive and hitting

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<v Speaker 4>Santonio Holmes in the corner of the end zone.

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<v Speaker 3>Jim the cool John Jone.

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<v Speaker 4>It was. It was just disgusting. It was a big,

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<v Speaker 4>bad Steelers And once again, I don't think the Cardinals

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<v Speaker 4>should have ever been there. I think they only won

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<v Speaker 4>nine games and just snuck into the playoffs. But that

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<v Speaker 4>had one hell of a run.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the that that is that's the only super Bowl

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<v Speaker 2>win for Tom isn't it.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it is right now?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, and up going and facing the Packers a few

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<v Speaker 4>years later and lost to that too.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, so and Rogers got his only one. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I think we'll get a competitive game. And as far

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<v Speaker 2>as like what this does for for legacies, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>Patrick Mahomes, I feel like I could lose and it's

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<v Speaker 2>still gonna mean that he's one of the best of

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<v Speaker 2>all time.

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<v Speaker 3>And it does.

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<v Speaker 2>And we shouldn't look at a loss here as a

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<v Speaker 2>sign that they're not going to be back once again

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<v Speaker 2>in the Super Bowl, because that's just kind.

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<v Speaker 3>Of what they do.

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<v Speaker 2>So I do feel though the win for the Eagles

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<v Speaker 2>the potential non existent downfall of the Chiefs, right, Like,

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<v Speaker 4>They just lost to U U the Bucks.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right, That's right, I forget about that.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a very weird year.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was so anyways, I mean, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>I clearly I don't think anybody's doubting the Eagles as

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<v Speaker 2>think anybody's out there claiming that they're not, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>a really good team. But when you've got a team

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<v Speaker 2>that's currently where, the Chiefs are the talk of the town,

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<v Speaker 2>right they are the They are the hottest thing in

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<v Speaker 2>the NFL and have been for a while now. That's

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<v Speaker 2>just regardless of what happens with them, it's always they're

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<v Speaker 2>going to continue to kind of lead the conversation. It'll

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<v Speaker 2>be both right, They're gonna be There's gonna be a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of talk about, Man, how huge was that for

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<v Speaker 3>What a moment for his career.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's one of the better storylines you'll see

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<v Speaker 2>in the NFL ever from the running back position.

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<v Speaker 3>If he's to go from a.

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<v Speaker 2>Terrible run in New York where that franchise just set

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<v Speaker 2>him up for failure a by being bombs and losers,

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<v Speaker 2>and then he goes to a successful organization like the

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<v Speaker 2>think there's really not a lot to lose on the

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<v Speaker 2>chief side, and I don't really think there'll be a

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<v Speaker 2>whole lot to lose as far as you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think you blow up the Eagles if they lose

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<v Speaker 2>here and think we got to start over. Because if

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<v Speaker 2>you're getting to the super Bowl, you know, two years

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<v Speaker 2>in a three year period, two times in a three

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<v Speaker 2>year window, and you got better this year when you

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<v Speaker 2>added Barkley, I mean, it doesn't mean that you're really

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<v Speaker 2>even missing some big key piece. I mean you might be,

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<v Speaker 2>but you're really good. You know what the issue is,

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<v Speaker 2>You're running into the Chiefs who are currently a monster,

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<v Speaker 2>and I don't see them slowing down anytime soon.

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<v Speaker 3>But I hope the Eagles win.

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<v Speaker 2>I really do, all right, So the updated bracketology, and

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<v Speaker 2>when it comes to the Super Bowl wagering. But the

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<v Speaker 2>updated bracketology from the One and Only Joey Bracketts came

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<v Speaker 2>out earlier today, and he's now updating it more frequently.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm now noticing that he's updating it. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>he's updating it without really doing much updating, if that

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<v Speaker 2>makes sense. And now you know it does make sense

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<v Speaker 2>because this late in the year, there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>data points out there, a lot of games you've played

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<v Speaker 2>to where you know, if you keep winning or maybe

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<v Speaker 2>if you lose a game, but it's to a really

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<v Speaker 2>good team, you're probably going to be able to stay

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<v Speaker 2>where you are on the line. But as of right now,

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<v Speaker 2>he has Louisville still as a seventh seed. They would

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<v Speaker 2>be taken on Texas and Milwaukee in the Midwest region

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<v Speaker 2>the Indianapolis region, and the one seed in that region

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<v Speaker 2>is Alabama and the two seed who they would play

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<v Speaker 2>if things go chalk would be Purdue.

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<v Speaker 3>So and I'm not going to get in.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, as far as like liking the draw. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not terrible, but I don't even put a whole

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<v Speaker 2>lot of thought into it because it's just.

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<v Speaker 3>A random thing.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, again, when it comes to bracketology, predicting where

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<v Speaker 2>somebody is as far as their seed range is really

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<v Speaker 2>not that hard to do. And predicting who they play,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you're just I mean just random, You're not really,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's not a prediction necessarily. It's really just

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<v Speaker 2>a reference point. Kentucky they are as a I think that, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>they're well, they're a four seed. Some reason I thought

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<v Speaker 2>they had he had him as a three. But Kentucky

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<v Speaker 2>is a four seed and they are taken on Lipscomb,

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<v Speaker 2>who's an auto qualifier, and then if they win, they

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<v Speaker 2>would then play if it goes Chalk Ucla, who's a

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<v Speaker 2>five seed in that region, that that one the one

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<v Speaker 2>seed in that region the East is Duke, So I

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<v Speaker 2>guess you know that's how it played out. That's who

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<v Speaker 2>they would end up going up against. And the bubble

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<v Speaker 2>the last team in according to Lenardi, wake Forest first

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<v Speaker 2>team out cal in Arkansas, and the top overall seed

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<v Speaker 2>is is Auburn. So here's how he has the bubble

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<v Speaker 2>currently the last four in Wake Forest BYU, San Diego State,

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<v Speaker 2>and Vanderbilt, and then the first four out Arkansas, Xavier, SMU,

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<v Speaker 2>Central Florida, the next four out Pittsburgh, North Carolina.

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<v Speaker 3>BCU, and USC.

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<v Speaker 2>So what could happen here is if all of the

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<v Speaker 2>teams currently on the bubble.

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<v Speaker 3>End up.

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<v Speaker 2>Getting you know, a favorable bounce if you will, right,

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<v Speaker 2>they end up being on the right side of the bubble,

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<v Speaker 2>that would give you or five, seven teams in the dance.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I don't predict that that happens, but it

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<v Speaker 2>would also be really misleading because again you'd have a

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<v Speaker 2>one seed with Duke, and then you would have from there,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, your best seed probably maybe be in a

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<v Speaker 2>six or a seven, depending on if it's Clemson or Louisville,

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<v Speaker 2>and then you know, teams that would be barely getting in.

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<v Speaker 2>I would assume also the wrong side of the bubble,

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<v Speaker 2>away from being a team that gets just three teams

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<v Speaker 2>in the tournament and two are not great seeds, and

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<v Speaker 2>then the one. You know, Duke's just propping this league up.

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<v Speaker 2>Right now, so thirteen teams in the tournament according to

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<v Speaker 2>Lonardi right now from the SEC Insane, ten from the

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<v Speaker 2>Big Ten, eight from the Big Twelve, four from the ACC,

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<v Speaker 2>four for the Big East, three from the Mountain West,

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<v Speaker 2>and then two from the WCC. And this weekend with

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<v Speaker 2>Louisville taking on a really bad Miami team and Kentucky

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<v Speaker 2>taking on a not a really bad South Carolina team,

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<v Speaker 2>but certainly not a good South Carolina team, and they

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<v Speaker 2>are winless in the SEC, which again, if you look

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<v Speaker 2>at their schedule, it actually says more about the league

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<v Speaker 2>than anything else. So this is a weekend where you

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<v Speaker 2>have a whole lot to lose and not not much

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<v Speaker 2>to gain really at all. A loss would be devastating

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<v Speaker 2>for both because with Kentucky, I mean it would be

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<v Speaker 2>I mean just the optics and even the numbers wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>be great because South Carolina, despite not having a bad

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<v Speaker 2>NET or a bad kN palm there, I mean, their

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<v Speaker 2>record is not good and they're not they're not doing

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, in fact, I think they are I think

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<v Speaker 2>their last place in the UH, in in in the NET,

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<v Speaker 2>in the in the SEC, and of course that would

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<v Speaker 2>make them that would give them five and their five

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<v Speaker 2>losses in their last six games, and again it would

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<v Speaker 2>be to a bad team so a lot to lose

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<v Speaker 2>there for Kentucky and then Louisville. I mean, look there,

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<v Speaker 2>that would be a loss to Miami would be absolutely

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<v Speaker 2>devastating to your resume. Hard it's hard for me to

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<v Speaker 2>it's hard for me to see that you would like

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<v Speaker 2>fall to being like absolutely on the bubble if you

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<v Speaker 2>lose to Miami, because again you're currently a seventh seed

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<v Speaker 2>according to most.

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<v Speaker 3>But what what what the issue is for Louisville with.

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<v Speaker 2>Losing some of these games is that right now, what's

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<v Speaker 2>helping you is that you have an isolated result, so

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<v Speaker 2>you're getting the benefit of the doubt because you don't

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<v Speaker 2>have any good wins as far as real value in

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<v Speaker 2>every loss of yours, but one five of your six

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<v Speaker 2>losses are all quality losses that really don't do much

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<v Speaker 2>to hurt you. In fact, some of them don't hurt

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<v Speaker 2>you at all. But then Georgia Tech, that's a that's

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<v Speaker 2>a that's a seven point loss at their place, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's not a awful loss, but not a good one.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's a bad loss, trust me, it is

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<v Speaker 2>a bad loss, I'm much, but it could be worse.

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<v Speaker 2>Like if Georgia Tech was Boston College. I mean that

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<v Speaker 2>would be that would be more crushing because Georgia Tech

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<v Speaker 2>happens to be one hundred and fifteen spots ahead of.

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<v Speaker 3>Boston College.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think numbers wise, you're you're in a decent spot,

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<v Speaker 2>right You're top thirty in the kin Palm, top thirty

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<v Speaker 2>in the net. That's where you want to be. But

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<v Speaker 2>a loss here to a team that's ranked one ninety

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<v Speaker 2>two in the in the kin palm would would really

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<v Speaker 2>I mean again, you're talking about a team that is

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<v Speaker 2>nearly one hundred spots below a team meet just lost to,

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<v Speaker 2>and you'd be losing to this team who's a lot

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<v Speaker 2>worse at home. So like that's the kind of thing

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<v Speaker 2>that one would hurt you badly in the metrics with

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<v Speaker 2>the numbers. And also you no longer can say you

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<v Speaker 2>have an isolated data point of a bad loss. You

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<v Speaker 2>would have two really bad losses. So I think it

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<v Speaker 2>could legitimately, and I don't think it'll happen. Eighty eight

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<v Speaker 2>sixty nine is to projected score in kin Pom for

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<v Speaker 2>this game tomorrow and Louisville again that we know they're

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<v Speaker 2>a lot better. The Miami's an absolute mess, Like they're

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<v Speaker 2>they're a team that really you could be making money

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<v Speaker 2>on if if you've been fading them the last couple

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<v Speaker 2>of months. But they did just win against Notre Dame

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<v Speaker 2>last week and they haven't played since then. They only

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<v Speaker 2>have five wins on the season. They're five and seventeen overall,

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<v Speaker 2>one in ten now in the ACC. So they are

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<v Speaker 2>the worst team in the league. And again, like there's

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<v Speaker 2>really no point in saying much more than that. They're

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<v Speaker 2>that bad. So I hope louisll doesn't lose. But again,

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<v Speaker 2>that's that's where you are. You have a lot to

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<v Speaker 2>lose the rest of the way and not very much

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<v Speaker 2>to gain to the way, which is not a fun

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<v Speaker 2>place to be. But look, if you take care of

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<v Speaker 2>business and beat teams that you know you can beat.

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<v Speaker 2>Different conversation now, agatting the issue is that if for

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<v Speaker 2>some reason you're without Chucky Hepburn for you know, a

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<v Speaker 2>few games or longer, can we still say that, like

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<v Speaker 2>we know that Louisville should beat these teams that are bad.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I think we can say that, but let's

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<v Speaker 2>be real, Chucky Hepburn is the single most important player

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<v Speaker 2>on this team and it is not even close. So

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<v Speaker 2>now we wait to see if he's able to go tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 2>Keep a locked right here, it's cofee and company. Feiel

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<v Speaker 1>Now back to coffee and company, fueled by Thornton's on

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<v Speaker 2>That's right, it's coffee and company here on a Friday afternoon,

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<v Speaker 2>getting you set for the weekend.

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<v Speaker 3>A big weekend around here, super Bowl, and of course.

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<v Speaker 2>People talked about these big college basketball games, and again

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<v Speaker 2>I keep saying big just because you know, trying to

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<v Speaker 2>get you excited.

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<v Speaker 3>For the weekend. But they're not big games.

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<v Speaker 2>They're actually games that make me anxious because again, you win,

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<v Speaker 2>it's what you're supposed to do, and you kind of

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<v Speaker 2>need to win big. And if you lose, Man, that's devastating.

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't think Lowe was going to lose to Miami.

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<v Speaker 2>Trust me. I've had a couple of people ask me

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<v Speaker 2>if I'm worried about the game. I mean, I'm worried

427
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<v Speaker 2>about Chucky and he may play. He worried Nick and

428
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<v Speaker 2>if he doesn't play, scared of Miami. I mean, if

429
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<v Speaker 2>he doesn't play, that just kind of I mean, your

430
00:20:05.200 --> 00:20:10.839
<v Speaker 2>confidence level is still good because Louisville, you feel like

431
00:20:11.000 --> 00:20:12.160
<v Speaker 2>is still good to.

432
00:20:12.200 --> 00:20:13.559
<v Speaker 3>Be able to well, I don't know. I mean, I

433
00:20:13.839 --> 00:20:14.839
<v Speaker 3>think I'm lying to myself.

434
00:20:15.079 --> 00:20:18.079
<v Speaker 2>The confidence level tomorrow if Chucky doesn't play, is based

435
00:20:18.119 --> 00:20:20.359
<v Speaker 2>solely off of Miami sucking, right, I mean, that's what

436
00:20:20.400 --> 00:20:21.880
<v Speaker 2>it comes down to. And it's not to say Louislle

437
00:20:21.880 --> 00:20:24.640
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't be able to beat him without Chucky, but really

438
00:20:24.720 --> 00:20:25.960
<v Speaker 2>they played good at the end of the game when

439
00:20:26.000 --> 00:20:27.440
<v Speaker 2>he went out, but it was Boston College and you

440
00:20:27.440 --> 00:20:30.559
<v Speaker 2>already up big whenever he got hurt. And you know,

441
00:20:31.200 --> 00:20:34.759
<v Speaker 2>I think we've seen throughout the year that he's the

442
00:20:34.799 --> 00:20:37.119
<v Speaker 2>most important player on the team, and so it's time

443
00:20:37.160 --> 00:20:39.480
<v Speaker 2>to free Fats. Yeah yeah, I mean, look, that's clearly

444
00:20:39.480 --> 00:20:42.240
<v Speaker 2>who would be running the show. And I want to

445
00:20:42.240 --> 00:20:44.480
<v Speaker 2>give Fat a lot of credit because he's not only

446
00:20:44.519 --> 00:20:46.599
<v Speaker 2>been a good player for Louisville this year, and I

447
00:20:46.640 --> 00:20:49.400
<v Speaker 2>just think even when he stays aggressive and he misses shots,

448
00:20:49.799 --> 00:20:50.559
<v Speaker 2>Louisville is better.

449
00:20:50.680 --> 00:20:51.160
<v Speaker 3>He's better.

450
00:20:51.240 --> 00:20:53.160
<v Speaker 2>It's the best case scenario when he stays aggressive and

451
00:20:53.279 --> 00:20:54.839
<v Speaker 2>start to finish. So he's done a good job there.

452
00:20:54.880 --> 00:20:56.720
<v Speaker 2>But he's been a really good defender. I mean, I

453
00:20:56.759 --> 00:20:58.279
<v Speaker 2>don't think Patton knew he was getting a guy that

454
00:20:58.319 --> 00:21:00.160
<v Speaker 2>would be able to defend the way that he has

455
00:21:00.279 --> 00:21:03.000
<v Speaker 2>at times this year. So he's been great, but man,

456
00:21:03.039 --> 00:21:04.839
<v Speaker 2>you'll have to put a lot more on him. And

457
00:21:05.000 --> 00:21:06.359
<v Speaker 2>you know, it's kind of one of those games where

458
00:21:06.480 --> 00:21:08.559
<v Speaker 2>because Louis had games where Rain doesn't need to just

459
00:21:08.599 --> 00:21:11.559
<v Speaker 2>go crazy from three, right, but Rain would have to.

460
00:21:12.119 --> 00:21:12.920
<v Speaker 4>Like this last game.

461
00:21:12.960 --> 00:21:14.839
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he would have to contribute for sure when it

462
00:21:14.880 --> 00:21:17.200
<v Speaker 2>comes to product producing points, but he can do. But

463
00:21:17.359 --> 00:21:19.759
<v Speaker 2>he also, you know, let's be honest, when it comes

464
00:21:19.799 --> 00:21:22.839
<v Speaker 2>to the amount of assist. This team has a lot

465
00:21:22.880 --> 00:21:24.559
<v Speaker 2>of guys do distribute the ball. I mean, Terrence has

466
00:21:24.559 --> 00:21:26.079
<v Speaker 2>had some games where he's had a lot of times,

467
00:21:26.079 --> 00:21:30.160
<v Speaker 2>so you know, honestly, Trei Orra is a guy who's

468
00:21:30.160 --> 00:21:31.039
<v Speaker 2>a pretty good passer too.

469
00:21:31.279 --> 00:21:33.720
<v Speaker 3>But like Chucky is your leading leading assists.

470
00:21:33.720 --> 00:21:33.839
<v Speaker 1>Man.

471
00:21:33.880 --> 00:21:36.240
<v Speaker 3>He leads the acc and assists. And I just.

472
00:21:36.200 --> 00:21:38.440
<v Speaker 2>Feel like more often than not, when Rain Smith has

473
00:21:38.480 --> 00:21:40.319
<v Speaker 2>made a three point shot, it is because it has

474
00:21:40.359 --> 00:21:43.799
<v Speaker 2>come from Chucky. Hepburn, So you know, it changes a lot.

475
00:21:43.960 --> 00:21:46.759
<v Speaker 2>And again I should have I should have put the

476
00:21:46.960 --> 00:21:49.440
<v Speaker 2>disclaimer out there before now. But like we don't know

477
00:21:49.440 --> 00:21:51.480
<v Speaker 2>if he's gonna play or not. He's he's listed as

478
00:21:51.559 --> 00:21:55.519
<v Speaker 2>day to day and they're gonna see if he can

479
00:21:55.559 --> 00:21:58.519
<v Speaker 2>go tomorrow. And if I could pull up the sound here,

480
00:21:58.599 --> 00:22:00.279
<v Speaker 2>I'll let you hear what Pat Kelsey had to say,

481
00:22:00.319 --> 00:22:03.480
<v Speaker 2>because you know, I think he's telling the honest truth.

482
00:22:03.519 --> 00:22:05.960
<v Speaker 2>I do not believe that, you know, they're trying to

483
00:22:06.079 --> 00:22:09.039
<v Speaker 2>keep information from us. I mean, maybe they're a little

484
00:22:09.079 --> 00:22:11.440
<v Speaker 2>more confident than we realize. Maybe they're a little more

485
00:22:11.440 --> 00:22:15.640
<v Speaker 2>worried when we realize. I don't know, but it's just

486
00:22:15.640 --> 00:22:17.359
<v Speaker 2>gonna be one of those things that you can't get

487
00:22:17.359 --> 00:22:20.440
<v Speaker 2>too caught up in. I mean, I get while you're

488
00:22:20.440 --> 00:22:21.960
<v Speaker 2>thinking about it, I'm thinking about it too. I mean,

489
00:22:22.119 --> 00:22:24.440
<v Speaker 2>I've spent more time thinking about a man's growing than

490
00:22:24.440 --> 00:22:27.319
<v Speaker 2>I ever imagined I would. But here we are, and

491
00:22:27.359 --> 00:22:30.920
<v Speaker 2>I don't regret any of it. But with Chucky, I mean,

492
00:22:31.640 --> 00:22:35.839
<v Speaker 2>we're just gonna have to wait for every every uh,

493
00:22:37.000 --> 00:22:39.559
<v Speaker 2>I mean every update from Pat, every game, and I

494
00:22:39.559 --> 00:22:42.119
<v Speaker 2>think that's when we're going to be getting getting updates.

495
00:22:42.119 --> 00:22:47.559
<v Speaker 2>And if it stays that way, you still never know

496
00:22:47.599 --> 00:22:49.559
<v Speaker 2>how it's gonna work out. But that's the best case

497
00:22:49.559 --> 00:22:52.240
<v Speaker 2>scenario than getting a press release that it's you know,

498
00:22:52.359 --> 00:22:57.519
<v Speaker 2>says really bad news. So I mean, I I'm I'm

499
00:22:57.519 --> 00:23:00.400
<v Speaker 2>a worrier in general. It's an issue of mine. It's

500
00:23:00.400 --> 00:23:03.480
<v Speaker 2>just part of me who I am. So I get

501
00:23:03.480 --> 00:23:04.839
<v Speaker 2>that I'm more worried than others, But a lot of

502
00:23:04.880 --> 00:23:06.680
<v Speaker 2>people are kind of like, well, I mean, he's fine.

503
00:23:06.720 --> 00:23:08.400
<v Speaker 2>You saw him at the end of the bench and

504
00:23:08.240 --> 00:23:10.599
<v Speaker 2>and and I did see it, and that is encouraging.

505
00:23:11.319 --> 00:23:14.240
<v Speaker 2>But I mean, I think the status that they're they're

506
00:23:14.319 --> 00:23:17.160
<v Speaker 2>giving us is real, and it's it's a thing because

507
00:23:17.160 --> 00:23:20.279
<v Speaker 2>if he was okay and it was no biggie and

508
00:23:20.359 --> 00:23:22.240
<v Speaker 2>they were just being safe because they were up and

509
00:23:22.279 --> 00:23:24.200
<v Speaker 2>he might have tweaked something and they didn't want to

510
00:23:24.200 --> 00:23:26.720
<v Speaker 2>even risk it because of how important he is, they

511
00:23:26.799 --> 00:23:28.400
<v Speaker 2>want to make sure and get it looked at before

512
00:23:28.400 --> 00:23:32.240
<v Speaker 2>they let him play again. They mean, if that was

513
00:23:32.279 --> 00:23:34.480
<v Speaker 2>the if that is what truly ended up being the

514
00:23:34.480 --> 00:23:36.799
<v Speaker 2>case against Boston College, then we would have found that

515
00:23:36.799 --> 00:23:40.279
<v Speaker 2>out today and we didn't, So worrying about it isn't

516
00:23:40.279 --> 00:23:41.599
<v Speaker 2>going to help. But I'd be a liar if I

517
00:23:41.680 --> 00:23:43.720
<v Speaker 2>told you that. I'm not gonna be thinking about it

518
00:23:43.720 --> 00:23:46.880
<v Speaker 2>here and there. So my guess will be tomorrow, maybe

519
00:23:46.920 --> 00:23:50.160
<v Speaker 2>around one o'clock they play it too, tips off at too,

520
00:23:50.279 --> 00:23:53.559
<v Speaker 2>so we'll find I mean, I would be, I'd be.

521
00:23:55.160 --> 00:23:55.400
<v Speaker 4>I would.

522
00:23:55.799 --> 00:23:59.160
<v Speaker 2>I think if in fact they end up not playing,

523
00:23:59.200 --> 00:24:01.559
<v Speaker 2>like he won't play, then I think we would. I mean,

524
00:24:01.880 --> 00:24:04.240
<v Speaker 2>I think Dana Brown, the SID would send out that

525
00:24:04.319 --> 00:24:06.519
<v Speaker 2>release probably about an hour before the game. I think

526
00:24:06.519 --> 00:24:09.519
<v Speaker 2>if we get nothing, that's a good sign. But he

527
00:24:09.559 --> 00:24:12.599
<v Speaker 2>also still may not play. That means like he's he's available,

528
00:24:12.599 --> 00:24:14.480
<v Speaker 2>but they're still leting him rest. Which if that's the case,

529
00:24:14.960 --> 00:24:17.559
<v Speaker 2>then I think that that's I mean, it's probably the

530
00:24:17.559 --> 00:24:20.559
<v Speaker 2>best case scenario scenario because he's clearly clearly dealing with something.

531
00:24:21.480 --> 00:24:25.720
<v Speaker 2>And I'm no expert, but you know, a groin injury

532
00:24:26.359 --> 00:24:28.839
<v Speaker 2>regardless of really what it is, I shouldn't say regardless

533
00:24:28.839 --> 00:24:30.400
<v Speaker 2>of what it is, but I know there's been different

534
00:24:30.440 --> 00:24:33.680
<v Speaker 2>There's all kinds of diff There's Taekwondan had something with

535
00:24:33.720 --> 00:24:37.720
<v Speaker 2>his with his groin that ended up being of really

536
00:24:37.799 --> 00:24:40.440
<v Speaker 2>common injury I believe in hockey players. And it was

537
00:24:40.519 --> 00:24:42.799
<v Speaker 2>kind of random how taekwon got it and he played

538
00:24:42.839 --> 00:24:45.960
<v Speaker 2>through it for a long time and then finally ended

539
00:24:46.039 --> 00:24:48.200
<v Speaker 2>up having had had to give had to get some surgery,

540
00:24:48.279 --> 00:24:51.079
<v Speaker 2>and it really I mean, I don't know if if

541
00:24:52.079 --> 00:24:53.880
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if he if he overdid it, but

542
00:24:53.920 --> 00:24:55.640
<v Speaker 2>I mean I remember there was some fear that once

543
00:24:55.720 --> 00:24:57.680
<v Speaker 2>he did actually have to get it taken care of,

544
00:24:57.720 --> 00:24:59.599
<v Speaker 2>that maybe he played on it a little too much

545
00:25:00.160 --> 00:25:02.319
<v Speaker 2>because it's something you can play on and you can

546
00:25:02.359 --> 00:25:03.519
<v Speaker 2>just kind of deal with the pain if you can

547
00:25:03.599 --> 00:25:04.000
<v Speaker 2>manage it.

548
00:25:04.039 --> 00:25:05.640
<v Speaker 3>But you know, you don't want.

549
00:25:05.480 --> 00:25:06.839
<v Speaker 2>To be doing that unless you just you know, you're

550
00:25:06.880 --> 00:25:09.000
<v Speaker 2>in a situation where you're you know, you can fight

551
00:25:09.039 --> 00:25:12.160
<v Speaker 2>through it and your team needs you. So again, we'll

552
00:25:12.160 --> 00:25:15.680
<v Speaker 2>see tomorrow what would ends up happening. All right, speaking

553
00:25:15.720 --> 00:25:17.559
<v Speaker 2>of Taekwonde, Tomorrow, they're going to be honoring the two

554
00:25:17.599 --> 00:25:21.000
<v Speaker 2>thousand and five final four team, a special group. I

555
00:25:21.079 --> 00:25:25.640
<v Speaker 2>believe everybody is is going to be there on that

556
00:25:25.680 --> 00:25:29.240
<v Speaker 2>two thousand and five Final four team. I mean I

557
00:25:29.279 --> 00:25:34.319
<v Speaker 2>can't haven't haven't personally been, you know, looking for RSVPs.

558
00:25:34.400 --> 00:25:37.440
<v Speaker 2>But the folks I've talked to feel like it's going

559
00:25:37.519 --> 00:25:40.240
<v Speaker 2>to be a really good turnout as far as the players,

560
00:25:40.440 --> 00:25:42.559
<v Speaker 2>and you know, they want to have their coach obviously,

561
00:25:42.599 --> 00:25:46.200
<v Speaker 2>and I am curious if Rick would have come back

562
00:25:46.359 --> 00:25:49.799
<v Speaker 2>if he didn't have Well, actually, does Rick play tonight?

563
00:25:50.119 --> 00:25:51.279
<v Speaker 3>I think he plays tonight?

564
00:25:51.680 --> 00:25:54.799
<v Speaker 2>So maybe he could have come, but I think while

565
00:25:54.839 --> 00:25:57.039
<v Speaker 2>he's still coaching, it would be awkward and it would

566
00:25:57.039 --> 00:25:59.759
<v Speaker 2>be weird, but also you know, it wouldn't be the

567
00:25:59.799 --> 00:26:03.519
<v Speaker 2>crazy thing if he was invited and he decided to come. Mean,

568
00:26:03.559 --> 00:26:05.240
<v Speaker 2>I think he's I mean, we heard a couple of

569
00:26:05.240 --> 00:26:07.519
<v Speaker 2>weeks ago that he asked for Pat Kelsey's number. He

570
00:26:07.519 --> 00:26:10.039
<v Speaker 2>has Peyton seevafore it, So I don't know if the

571
00:26:10.039 --> 00:26:12.039
<v Speaker 2>two have talked yet, but I mean that that could

572
00:26:12.039 --> 00:26:13.119
<v Speaker 2>be the scenario.

573
00:26:12.759 --> 00:26:14.880
<v Speaker 3>Where because here's here's the thing. Rick lied.

574
00:26:14.920 --> 00:26:17.200
<v Speaker 2>I mean, when Rick said that he would go back

575
00:26:17.200 --> 00:26:19.400
<v Speaker 2>to Louisville if he was invited back or welcome back, like,

576
00:26:19.440 --> 00:26:22.160
<v Speaker 2>he lied, and that's what he does. He's you know,

577
00:26:22.240 --> 00:26:26.119
<v Speaker 2>he tells his own truth. But I mean, if you remember,

578
00:26:26.119 --> 00:26:28.359
<v Speaker 2>there's some players that tried their best to get him

579
00:26:28.359 --> 00:26:30.720
<v Speaker 2>to be there for the twenty thirteen teams ten year

580
00:26:30.759 --> 00:26:32.880
<v Speaker 2>reunion a couple years ago, and he didn't. You know,

581
00:26:32.920 --> 00:26:36.119
<v Speaker 2>the UFL was completely fine with it and the players

582
00:26:36.119 --> 00:26:38.440
<v Speaker 2>wanted him there and he chose not to come. So anyways,

583
00:26:39.440 --> 00:26:41.279
<v Speaker 2>I wonder if now that maybe he's talked to Pat Kelsey,

584
00:26:41.319 --> 00:26:42.720
<v Speaker 2>he'd be willing to come back. And look, we don't

585
00:26:42.720 --> 00:26:44.279
<v Speaker 2>need him to come back. We've honored this team before,

586
00:26:44.279 --> 00:26:46.960
<v Speaker 2>and you know, I'm happy for these guys. But one

587
00:26:47.039 --> 00:26:50.319
<v Speaker 2>day Rick will be back here, and I part of

588
00:26:50.359 --> 00:26:52.920
<v Speaker 2>me says it'll be a long time, because I think

589
00:26:52.920 --> 00:26:54.240
<v Speaker 2>he's gonna be coaching a long time. And if you're

590
00:26:54.279 --> 00:26:57.240
<v Speaker 2>gonna be honoring a team during the season, rarely will

591
00:26:57.880 --> 00:27:02.000
<v Speaker 2>you know, rarely will the timing workout out. And even

592
00:27:02.039 --> 00:27:03.519
<v Speaker 2>if you don't have a game on the day, it's

593
00:27:03.519 --> 00:27:06.400
<v Speaker 2>still something you're taking away from your you know, your gig.

594
00:27:06.480 --> 00:27:06.960
<v Speaker 3>Right like.

595
00:27:08.480 --> 00:27:10.160
<v Speaker 2>Tomorrow, if Patino was to come here and he does

596
00:27:10.200 --> 00:27:13.279
<v Speaker 2>play yukon the night at eight o'clock, but if Tino

597
00:27:13.359 --> 00:27:14.640
<v Speaker 2>was to come here for tomorrow, I mean he could

598
00:27:14.680 --> 00:27:16.599
<v Speaker 2>come and he's probably got a private planes. He could

599
00:27:16.599 --> 00:27:19.119
<v Speaker 2>probably come and leave right after if he wanted to,

600
00:27:19.359 --> 00:27:21.119
<v Speaker 2>and it wouldn't take up like his whole day. But still,

601
00:27:21.119 --> 00:27:22.519
<v Speaker 2>like it's not ideal when you're in the middle of

602
00:27:22.519 --> 00:27:24.359
<v Speaker 2>the season, and especially when his team's having a really

603
00:27:24.359 --> 00:27:24.720
<v Speaker 2>good year.

604
00:27:24.799 --> 00:27:26.920
<v Speaker 3>So who knows when it'll be, but it'll happen at

605
00:27:26.960 --> 00:27:27.319
<v Speaker 3>some point.

606
00:27:27.960 --> 00:27:30.039
<v Speaker 2>But that two thousand and five Final four team, obviously

607
00:27:30.359 --> 00:27:34.200
<v Speaker 2>the players that that's that that are legends that we

608
00:27:34.279 --> 00:27:37.400
<v Speaker 2>remember for we will remember forever if you were old

609
00:27:37.480 --> 00:27:39.359
<v Speaker 2>enough to watch that team play when we were talking

610
00:27:39.359 --> 00:27:43.759
<v Speaker 2>about Dean Garcia O'Bannon and I think Ellis Smiles is

611
00:27:43.799 --> 00:27:47.079
<v Speaker 2>a really good example of a guy who had a

612
00:27:47.119 --> 00:27:47.960
<v Speaker 2>really good career.

613
00:27:48.680 --> 00:27:53.880
<v Speaker 3>Love Ellis Miles. You know he played here for I think.

614
00:27:53.759 --> 00:27:56.319
<v Speaker 2>It was, yeah, four years, five, he was here five years,

615
00:27:56.319 --> 00:27:58.039
<v Speaker 2>but if you remember, he got hurt and ended up

616
00:27:58.039 --> 00:27:59.839
<v Speaker 2>getting a red shirt because of one of the injuries.

617
00:27:59.880 --> 00:28:02.839
<v Speaker 2>So well play he played four years in five years,

618
00:28:02.880 --> 00:28:05.000
<v Speaker 2>but he was a guy who ended up getting He

619
00:28:05.039 --> 00:28:08.359
<v Speaker 2>had his best season that year, ten points and nine

620
00:28:08.359 --> 00:28:10.559
<v Speaker 2>point two rebounds a game. I mean, just just a

621
00:28:10.599 --> 00:28:13.559
<v Speaker 2>really good, reliable post player, knew who he was as

622
00:28:13.559 --> 00:28:16.279
<v Speaker 2>a player, was a big time leader, real physical player.

623
00:28:16.279 --> 00:28:17.799
<v Speaker 3>I mean, Ellis had a hell of a career. So

624
00:28:17.799 --> 00:28:18.559
<v Speaker 3>I don't want to act.

625
00:28:18.480 --> 00:28:23.000
<v Speaker 2>Like I'm saying that we view him more positively than

626
00:28:23.039 --> 00:28:25.880
<v Speaker 2>we should. But he's a guy that if he wasn't

627
00:28:25.880 --> 00:28:28.559
<v Speaker 2>a part of a Final four, you'd remember him. You'd

628
00:28:28.599 --> 00:28:32.359
<v Speaker 2>say he's a good player. But there's a special something

629
00:28:32.440 --> 00:28:34.599
<v Speaker 2>that comes with being a guy who was as good

630
00:28:34.640 --> 00:28:36.759
<v Speaker 2>as him and you were a big piece to a

631
00:28:36.799 --> 00:28:41.559
<v Speaker 2>Final four team. If that makes sense, Like trying to

632
00:28:41.559 --> 00:28:48.279
<v Speaker 2>think of in twenty twelve, I guess I guess you

633
00:28:48.279 --> 00:28:51.000
<v Speaker 2>could say that Kyle Kurrick has sort of that same

634
00:28:51.079 --> 00:28:53.759
<v Speaker 2>like people remember Kyle Kuirrick. Honestly, maybe he's not a

635
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<v Speaker 2>good example because Kyle has remembered for being a good

636
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<v Speaker 2>player here. But man, the first thing who comes to

637
00:28:58.359 --> 00:28:59.839
<v Speaker 2>mind for people when it comes to Kyle kirk is

638
00:28:59.839 --> 00:29:02.240
<v Speaker 2>the he shut down, free them all and out of nowhere,

639
00:29:02.559 --> 00:29:05.480
<v Speaker 2>came off the bench and you know, looked like Larry

640
00:29:05.480 --> 00:29:08.480
<v Speaker 2>Bird out there. So that's such a random thing that

641
00:29:08.480 --> 00:29:10.519
<v Speaker 2>happened at the time that it and it was so awesome,

642
00:29:11.200 --> 00:29:13.680
<v Speaker 2>such a big win too, that that's probably the first

643
00:29:13.680 --> 00:29:15.519
<v Speaker 2>thing that comes to mind. But he's a guy that

644
00:29:15.599 --> 00:29:19.400
<v Speaker 2>had a good career, had some good numbers, but again

645
00:29:19.960 --> 00:29:24.559
<v Speaker 2>he played in a final four. Trying to think of

646
00:29:24.559 --> 00:29:28.440
<v Speaker 2>an example of somebody that was really good and the

647
00:29:28.480 --> 00:29:31.759
<v Speaker 2>tournament success wasn't there, So you wouldn't say you wouldn't

648
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<v Speaker 2>say they were a bad player. You wouldn't say that,

649
00:29:34.960 --> 00:29:38.559
<v Speaker 2>you know, they weren't good, and they weren't, you know,

650
00:29:38.640 --> 00:29:41.400
<v Speaker 2>really good compared to the history of the program, but

651
00:29:41.480 --> 00:29:45.720
<v Speaker 2>you would put them probably you would kind of forget

652
00:29:45.759 --> 00:29:47.599
<v Speaker 2>about him, and you wouldn't be listing them off as

653
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<v Speaker 2>early as you probably would have if you were basing

654
00:29:50.359 --> 00:29:52.119
<v Speaker 2>it just off like their production and what they did.

655
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<v Speaker 4>I would say, like Jerry Smith comes up in that convo,

656
00:29:55.000 --> 00:29:57.880
<v Speaker 4>Preston Knowles, they were on good teams that didn't happen

657
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<v Speaker 4>to go far.

658
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Preston Knowles is one of those guy that that

659
00:30:01.759 --> 00:30:04.440
<v Speaker 2>you know, he's he's remembered in a major way, but yeah,

660
00:30:04.440 --> 00:30:08.720
<v Speaker 2>I mean there's no big tournament run. Yeah, And honestly,

661
00:30:09.000 --> 00:30:11.880
<v Speaker 2>he actually played and was a good reliable guard off

662
00:30:11.880 --> 00:30:15.000
<v Speaker 2>the bench for those two Elite eight teams that ended

663
00:30:15.079 --> 00:30:17.880
<v Speaker 2>up going to the the lost in North Carolina when

664
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<v Speaker 2>they won the title, and then of course lost to

665
00:30:19.119 --> 00:30:21.119
<v Speaker 2>Michigan State. He was on those teams, and you know,

666
00:30:21.160 --> 00:30:23.480
<v Speaker 2>he wasn't a starting guard, but he played and at times,

667
00:30:23.519 --> 00:30:25.519
<v Speaker 2>you know, had some had some good flashes, and then

668
00:30:25.559 --> 00:30:27.079
<v Speaker 2>of course he just stick around and became a really

669
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<v Speaker 2>good player throughout his entire career.

670
00:30:29.000 --> 00:30:29.640
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, he did.

671
00:30:29.720 --> 00:30:32.799
<v Speaker 2>He didn't specifically have a deep tournament run at all

672
00:30:32.799 --> 00:30:34.400
<v Speaker 2>where because the best team that he was a part

673
00:30:34.440 --> 00:30:36.319
<v Speaker 2>of was that team that lost to Morehead State, and

674
00:30:36.319 --> 00:30:37.960
<v Speaker 2>we probably don't lose to Morehead State if he doesn't

675
00:30:37.960 --> 00:30:41.680
<v Speaker 2>get hurt. But now Jerry Smith, it is probably a

676
00:30:41.680 --> 00:30:43.559
<v Speaker 2>good one too. But Jerry played was so much like

677
00:30:43.599 --> 00:30:45.480
<v Speaker 2>Jerry was never the guy. In fact, when he had

678
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<v Speaker 2>to be the guy, he actually ended up needing to

679
00:30:47.799 --> 00:30:50.400
<v Speaker 2>be benched unfortunately, just because he was starting to really

680
00:30:50.440 --> 00:30:53.160
<v Speaker 2>struggle towards the very end of his career. I got

681
00:30:53.160 --> 00:30:55.920
<v Speaker 2>one for you, and I think this is I mean,

682
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<v Speaker 2>I'll be honestly, I think this is maybe the best example.

683
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<v Speaker 2>Maybe not because the only only played here two years

684
00:31:02.440 --> 00:31:04.160
<v Speaker 2>as far as a lot like as far as you know,

685
00:31:04.200 --> 00:31:06.920
<v Speaker 2>being a big time guy. But Jordan Warre, I mean, yeah,

686
00:31:07.039 --> 00:31:09.359
<v Speaker 2>Jordan Wore averaged seventeen points as a junior. He averaged

687
00:31:09.400 --> 00:31:14.400
<v Speaker 2>eighteen points as a senior. You know, I believe, I

688
00:31:14.440 --> 00:31:16.440
<v Speaker 2>mean he did he I think did he score thousand

689
00:31:16.440 --> 00:31:18.680
<v Speaker 2>points in his career really only playing like I mean

690
00:31:18.680 --> 00:31:22.240
<v Speaker 2>because he played for Paget as freshman season and didn't

691
00:31:22.240 --> 00:31:23.799
<v Speaker 2>get a ton of minutes, but he averaged five points

692
00:31:23.839 --> 00:31:25.839
<v Speaker 2>a game. It was really weird because he would actually,

693
00:31:26.519 --> 00:31:28.279
<v Speaker 2>I mean he would actually produce when he would get in.

694
00:31:28.319 --> 00:31:30.240
<v Speaker 2>It's just didn't he didn't play a whole lot. But yeah,

695
00:31:30.440 --> 00:31:35.039
<v Speaker 2>in his career, let's see, he scored. Yeah, I mean

696
00:31:35.079 --> 00:31:38.119
<v Speaker 2>he had thirteen hundred points and he really did that

697
00:31:38.160 --> 00:31:39.000
<v Speaker 2>in two years time.

698
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<v Speaker 3>Wow, I mean that's a yeah.

699
00:31:40.880 --> 00:31:42.920
<v Speaker 2>Look, this is a perfect example because he had one

700
00:31:42.960 --> 00:31:45.960
<v Speaker 2>hundred and fifty nine points total as a freshman, averaging five.

701
00:31:46.720 --> 00:31:49.960
<v Speaker 2>He scored five hundred and seventy seven a as a sophomore,

702
00:31:49.960 --> 00:31:53.279
<v Speaker 2>and scored five hundred and fifty eight as a junior.

703
00:31:53.319 --> 00:31:56.079
<v Speaker 2>And keep in mind, as a junior, he didn't even

704
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<v Speaker 2>get a tournament game, not even the ACC tournament.

705
00:31:59.000 --> 00:32:00.599
<v Speaker 4>I mean, so it's insane.

706
00:32:00.640 --> 00:32:03.319
<v Speaker 2>And I do I think I think he broke a

707
00:32:03.400 --> 00:32:08.960
<v Speaker 2>record because I could be wrong here, but I believe

708
00:32:09.599 --> 00:32:13.640
<v Speaker 2>his sophomore scoring average in twenty nineteen Max first year,

709
00:32:14.359 --> 00:32:17.559
<v Speaker 2>which again was seventeen points a game. I think that

710
00:32:17.720 --> 00:32:22.039
<v Speaker 2>broke the record for average points for any sophomore in

711
00:32:22.079 --> 00:32:22.759
<v Speaker 2>Louisville history.

712
00:32:22.799 --> 00:32:24.680
<v Speaker 3>And I think the record was rosier.

713
00:32:24.759 --> 00:32:27.079
<v Speaker 2>But if you remember, they pulled his records because of

714
00:32:27.119 --> 00:32:29.359
<v Speaker 2>the vacated stuff, so they didn't count it.

715
00:32:29.759 --> 00:32:32.359
<v Speaker 3>But Terry had the hot Terry broke I think one

716
00:32:32.400 --> 00:32:32.680
<v Speaker 3>of the.

717
00:32:34.920 --> 00:32:38.599
<v Speaker 2>One of the McCrae brothers records for most points averaged

718
00:32:38.599 --> 00:32:40.839
<v Speaker 2>by a sophomore, and then and then yet Jordan got it.

719
00:32:40.880 --> 00:32:42.160
<v Speaker 3>Look, Jordan was an All American.

720
00:32:42.480 --> 00:32:46.359
<v Speaker 2>I mean he's ap All American third team I mean

721
00:32:47.079 --> 00:32:49.839
<v Speaker 2>USA Basketball Writers All American third Team. I mean, that's

722
00:32:50.440 --> 00:32:52.559
<v Speaker 2>an honor that nobody has had at Louisville.

723
00:32:52.960 --> 00:32:55.000
<v Speaker 4>He also played for the Nigerian team in college.

724
00:32:55.400 --> 00:32:58.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's an honor that I don't think anybody has

725
00:32:58.039 --> 00:33:02.119
<v Speaker 2>had since I mean since him, and I don't really

726
00:33:02.119 --> 00:33:04.079
<v Speaker 2>remember who it was before him, probably Russ and Peyton

727
00:33:04.079 --> 00:33:06.400
<v Speaker 2>and those guys. Right, I mean, if you are a

728
00:33:06.440 --> 00:33:09.799
<v Speaker 2>third team All American, you are at least a top

729
00:33:09.839 --> 00:33:12.359
<v Speaker 2>fifteen player in the country. And that's a that's a

730
00:33:12.400 --> 00:33:14.799
<v Speaker 2>hard thing to to. I mean, like, as much as

731
00:33:14.960 --> 00:33:18.279
<v Speaker 2>I thought Carly Jones was really really good in his

732
00:33:18.319 --> 00:33:20.160
<v Speaker 2>one season at Louisville, I don't think he was an

733
00:33:20.319 --> 00:33:22.640
<v Speaker 2>All American player. But maybe he was, because again, that's

734
00:33:22.640 --> 00:33:25.559
<v Speaker 2>a real forgettable season. So Jordan is one of those

735
00:33:25.559 --> 00:33:27.680
<v Speaker 2>guys for some reason. Though he also, like people didn't

736
00:33:27.720 --> 00:33:29.599
<v Speaker 2>like Jordan as much as they would like a guy

737
00:33:29.599 --> 00:33:32.440
<v Speaker 2>who typically is that good, right, Like he he had

738
00:33:32.440 --> 00:33:34.200
<v Speaker 2>a really I mean, I'll just say it. I mean

739
00:33:34.240 --> 00:33:37.480
<v Speaker 2>Mack used to say it. Maybe not publicly, but he

740
00:33:37.519 --> 00:33:40.319
<v Speaker 2>had resting bitch face like Jordan looked like he he

741
00:33:40.359 --> 00:33:42.559
<v Speaker 2>looked like he he looked like he was a powder

742
00:33:42.680 --> 00:33:45.359
<v Speaker 2>like he he did not. You know, I can't think

743
00:33:45.400 --> 00:33:48.000
<v Speaker 2>of what would he call it. He wouldn't call it

744
00:33:48.119 --> 00:33:51.160
<v Speaker 2>energy or even maybe he was body language. But I

745
00:33:51.160 --> 00:33:53.559
<v Speaker 2>feel like there was some other word that that that

746
00:33:54.200 --> 00:33:57.400
<v Speaker 2>Mack would would use to describe sort of Jordan kind

747
00:33:57.400 --> 00:33:59.839
<v Speaker 2>of just he would he'd be playing well and kind

748
00:33:59.839 --> 00:34:03.519
<v Speaker 2>of just floating round and just not looking like he

749
00:34:03.559 --> 00:34:05.279
<v Speaker 2>was totally locked in, like kind of being on his

750
00:34:05.319 --> 00:34:07.599
<v Speaker 2>tippy toes. But man, he was a I mean he

751
00:34:07.720 --> 00:34:10.119
<v Speaker 2>still is. But he was a really talented player, like

752
00:34:10.119 --> 00:34:13.119
<v Speaker 2>a six seven, two hundred and twenty five five guy

753
00:34:13.199 --> 00:34:14.199
<v Speaker 2>that could fill it up.

754
00:34:14.239 --> 00:34:15.880
<v Speaker 3>I mean he could get hot.

755
00:34:16.400 --> 00:34:16.559
<v Speaker 1>Ude.

756
00:34:16.599 --> 00:34:18.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he was athletic enough to dunk on you. He

757
00:34:19.079 --> 00:34:20.719
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I really thought he was gonna be a

758
00:34:20.719 --> 00:34:23.559
<v Speaker 2>star in the NBA. That's a stretch A champion technically, Yeah,

759
00:34:23.559 --> 00:34:25.880
<v Speaker 2>that's true, that's a stretch. I don't think he should

760
00:34:25.880 --> 00:34:27.119
<v Speaker 2>have been a star, but I thought he would have

761
00:34:27.159 --> 00:34:28.760
<v Speaker 2>lasted a long time in the NBA because I just

762
00:34:28.760 --> 00:34:31.960
<v Speaker 2>feel like currently his game actually fits the NBA in

763
00:34:32.000 --> 00:34:34.960
<v Speaker 2>a perfect ways. He's big enough, he's athletic enough, and

764
00:34:35.000 --> 00:34:36.639
<v Speaker 2>he can flat out shoot it. I mean, he's the

765
00:34:36.679 --> 00:34:40.519
<v Speaker 2>best scorer since Russ Smith that Louisville as far as

766
00:34:40.559 --> 00:34:43.760
<v Speaker 2>just being able to have two points at halftime and

767
00:34:43.880 --> 00:34:45.880
<v Speaker 2>end up with twenty seven, Like he could do that

768
00:34:45.960 --> 00:34:47.159
<v Speaker 2>and it wouldn't be a big shock.

769
00:34:48.440 --> 00:34:51.199
<v Speaker 3>And I know some people thinking, well his defense, Yeah,

770
00:34:51.239 --> 00:34:51.519
<v Speaker 3>and no.

771
00:34:51.800 --> 00:34:54.400
<v Speaker 2>I mean that was a frustrating thing about Jordan is

772
00:34:54.400 --> 00:34:56.280
<v Speaker 2>that when he wanted to play defense and he really

773
00:34:56.280 --> 00:34:57.960
<v Speaker 2>got into it, he could defend. I mean he didn't

774
00:34:57.960 --> 00:34:59.840
<v Speaker 2>have any I mean he lost so much weight. He

775
00:35:00.000 --> 00:35:02.000
<v Speaker 2>You're at Louisville and he was pudgy when he first

776
00:35:02.039 --> 00:35:05.039
<v Speaker 2>got here. Ye lost weight, became an athlete. So he's

777
00:35:05.039 --> 00:35:07.719
<v Speaker 2>a really good example of somebody that just isn't going

778
00:35:07.800 --> 00:35:10.400
<v Speaker 2>to be thought of the same as guys who were

779
00:35:10.440 --> 00:35:12.760
<v Speaker 2>part of special tournament runs. And that's why I think,

780
00:35:12.760 --> 00:35:16.679
<v Speaker 2>like Otis George Man, that's a guy you absolutely forget

781
00:35:16.719 --> 00:35:19.760
<v Speaker 2>about if he's not on that special team. They gave

782
00:35:19.800 --> 00:35:22.639
<v Speaker 2>Louisville their first Final four since nineteen what was it,

783
00:35:22.719 --> 00:35:25.400
<v Speaker 2>nineteen eighty six? They get back to one after that title,

784
00:35:25.440 --> 00:35:27.840
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure they did not in the nineties right now.

785
00:35:27.880 --> 00:35:29.400
<v Speaker 2>They did in the nineties, so maybe they didn't after

786
00:35:29.440 --> 00:35:33.719
<v Speaker 2>eighty six. Yeah, but yeah, so special group and the

787
00:35:33.760 --> 00:35:35.440
<v Speaker 2>fact that they're this old makes me feel old, to

788
00:35:35.440 --> 00:35:37.840
<v Speaker 2>be honest with you. But hopefully there's a great turn

789
00:35:37.880 --> 00:35:41.039
<v Speaker 2>out tomorrow and those guys get a big, a big standing.

790
00:35:41.039 --> 00:35:43.079
<v Speaker 3>Oh all right, quick break, we'll keep it locked right here. Well,

791
00:35:43.079 --> 00:35:44.440
<v Speaker 3>actually we want you to keep it locked right here.

792
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<v Speaker 2>We're going to take a break and we're going to

793
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<v Speaker 2>come back talk about the Super Bowl bets that are

794
00:35:47.920 --> 00:35:49.599
<v Speaker 2>out there, So stick with us right here. Coffee and

795
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<v Speaker 2>Company feel about Thornin's Unsports Talk seven.

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<v Speaker 1>Ninety Now back to Coffee and Company. Few by Thornton's

797
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<v Speaker 1>on Sports Talk seven nine day.

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<v Speaker 2>With sportscambling becoming so much more popular every year and

799
00:36:17.320 --> 00:36:20.519
<v Speaker 2>more accessible, and it's directly in your face. These professional

800
00:36:20.559 --> 00:36:23.320
<v Speaker 2>leagues are clearly in bed with the sports books and

801
00:36:23.320 --> 00:36:26.159
<v Speaker 2>everybody's taken all of our money and I'm loving ever

802
00:36:26.199 --> 00:36:28.039
<v Speaker 2>minute of it, to be honest with you. So uh,

803
00:36:28.840 --> 00:36:32.719
<v Speaker 2>we've had stories of this becoming an issue, right you

804
00:36:32.760 --> 00:36:35.480
<v Speaker 2>had the Johntay Porter situation. I mean, there's been a

805
00:36:35.519 --> 00:36:39.559
<v Speaker 2>handful of stories that that I'm sure aren't good looks

806
00:36:39.599 --> 00:36:42.800
<v Speaker 2>that nobody wants happening. But again, as I always say,

807
00:36:43.000 --> 00:36:46.400
<v Speaker 2>anybody who was in favor that had like any legitimate

808
00:36:46.840 --> 00:36:49.639
<v Speaker 2>influence in sports betting becoming legal in so many states,

809
00:36:50.079 --> 00:36:52.880
<v Speaker 2>they didn't. They didn't do this thinking that this would

810
00:36:52.920 --> 00:36:54.599
<v Speaker 2>never happen. They knew that it would. It would happen

811
00:36:54.599 --> 00:36:56.079
<v Speaker 2>at some point, and you just have to hold people.

812
00:36:56.119 --> 00:36:59.480
<v Speaker 2>You have to put every resource possible into making sure

813
00:36:59.519 --> 00:37:03.280
<v Speaker 2>that you're not having guys out here compromising the integrity

814
00:37:03.320 --> 00:37:05.800
<v Speaker 2>of your sport. But also you got to make examples

815
00:37:05.840 --> 00:37:08.360
<v Speaker 2>out of people who do in fact that, because you know,

816
00:37:08.960 --> 00:37:13.320
<v Speaker 2>it should teach people the lesson. So with all that said,

817
00:37:13.840 --> 00:37:16.480
<v Speaker 2>when it comes to these prop bets, because these are

818
00:37:16.559 --> 00:37:22.039
<v Speaker 2>so easy to potentially like manipulate, I'm just surprised that

819
00:37:22.079 --> 00:37:25.760
<v Speaker 2>they still exist. Like will any player or coach cry

820
00:37:25.840 --> 00:37:29.320
<v Speaker 2>during the national anthem? Of course, I mean there could

821
00:37:29.360 --> 00:37:33.639
<v Speaker 2>be a guy that's I mean on a on a

822
00:37:33.679 --> 00:37:37.800
<v Speaker 2>minimum lead contract, which still a lot of money, But

823
00:37:37.800 --> 00:37:40.360
<v Speaker 2>they could tell somebody to, you know, put a crazy

824
00:37:40.400 --> 00:37:45.599
<v Speaker 2>wager on random player to cry. But you know thenn't

825
00:37:45.639 --> 00:37:48.480
<v Speaker 2>you then you'd have to like I didn't get it works.

826
00:37:48.239 --> 00:37:50.840
<v Speaker 4>Like, like do they have to catch them crying on TV?

827
00:37:51.239 --> 00:37:54.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like what if? What if I told the sports book? Yeah,

828
00:37:54.840 --> 00:37:56.360
<v Speaker 2>you didn't get it on TV, but I took a picture.

829
00:37:56.360 --> 00:37:56.920
<v Speaker 2>I was at the game.

830
00:37:56.920 --> 00:37:59.239
<v Speaker 3>He cried like I don't. I mean it's and there's

831
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<v Speaker 3>some of the.

832
00:38:00.039 --> 00:38:01.800
<v Speaker 4>The slide in the Fanduels d.

833
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<v Speaker 2>The most I mean, the most upstanding, I guess, the

834
00:38:06.280 --> 00:38:10.400
<v Speaker 2>most established sports books. They don't really take a lot

835
00:38:10.440 --> 00:38:15.199
<v Speaker 2>of these crazy you know, prop bets, but I mean

836
00:38:15.199 --> 00:38:18.039
<v Speaker 2>there's one here, Drake's Super Bowl curse. What team will

837
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<v Speaker 2>he be representing?

838
00:38:19.079 --> 00:38:19.840
<v Speaker 4>Oh?

839
00:38:20.000 --> 00:38:23.519
<v Speaker 2>I mean it's plus one point thirty for the Eagles,

840
00:38:23.519 --> 00:38:26.360
<v Speaker 2>minus one seventy for the Chiefs. Have you ever bet

841
00:38:26.400 --> 00:38:28.199
<v Speaker 2>on one of these and actually won some money?

842
00:38:28.920 --> 00:38:31.760
<v Speaker 4>I not one of those crazy ones, but I did.

843
00:38:31.920 --> 00:38:34.159
<v Speaker 4>I think a couple of years ago, I think it

844
00:38:34.320 --> 00:38:37.239
<v Speaker 4>was anyone but a quarterback to throw a touchdown pass.

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<v Speaker 4>I can't remember which game, which game it was, but

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<v Speaker 4>I mean you got two very innovative offensive court offensive

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<v Speaker 4>mines at the helm of each team.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think it was two years ago. I came

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<v Speaker 2>up short in a parlay that was just nothing but

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<v Speaker 2>like player prop bets, and it was a bummer, but

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<v Speaker 2>it was a fun ride.

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<v Speaker 3>It ended up coming up just short, but.

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<v Speaker 4>Feel like the Gatorade color one could be easily manipulated to.

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<v Speaker 3>I did whin.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't remember who it was, and I'm actually looking

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<v Speaker 2>up right now because it's going to drive me crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>But the one year there was a female that sang

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<v Speaker 2>the national anthem and I took the I took the

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<v Speaker 2>under it and it hit, but I don't remember. Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I think it was. Oh, it was Demi Levado in

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<v Speaker 2>two thousand. Yeah, so I remember I was doing commercials

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<v Speaker 2>at the time for I Believe FanDuel and I. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>they wanted me to include in my commercials which like

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<v Speaker 2>which picks I had, and I remember I had a

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<v Speaker 2>really like corny line of it's just a very corny delivery,

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<v Speaker 2>I said.

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<v Speaker 3>Demi Levado, give me the under it.

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<v Speaker 2>Just you know, I've had many commercials over the years

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<v Speaker 2>that are, you know, one air out the other. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't feel like they stand out to me. I hear

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<v Speaker 2>my voice enough, and then there's somewhere I'm like, man, I

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<v Speaker 2>should have listened to that back and recut it because

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<v Speaker 2>that sound awful. In fact, awful is how I described

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<v Speaker 2>my voice right now. But can't keep me out of here.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you. I appreciate that.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, it's coffee and company. We're fuel about Thort's

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<v Speaker 2>right here. On Sports Talk seven ninety
