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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Parenting Roundabout podcast. I'm Terry Morrow and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Catherine Jileco. As parents and parenting writers, we can't

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<v Speaker 1>help but see everything through a parenting lens. But as

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<v Speaker 1>our kids have become adults, we find ourselves more interested

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<v Speaker 1>in getting caught up on movies and streaming than I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going over the same parenting topics over and over.

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<v Speaker 2>So, since we're pretty sure we can find parenting wisdom anywhere,

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to talk about what we're watching, what we

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<v Speaker 2>thought about it, and maybe what we can learn from it,

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<v Speaker 2>if only what not to do. Watch and listen along,

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<v Speaker 2>and let's all make like we're doing something important for

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<v Speaker 2>our families.

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<v Speaker 1>Each Tuesday, we bring you a watch or rewatch of

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<v Speaker 1>an older entertainment property. And for this week of May

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<v Speaker 1>twenty six, we're continuing with Laws Season two, episode twenty

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<v Speaker 1>three and twenty four. Live Together, Die Alone?

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<v Speaker 3>Nobody dies in this episode?

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<v Speaker 2>Do they there?

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<v Speaker 3>He does?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think so.

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<v Speaker 3>They mostly just lived together, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>But they have They have a funeral.

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<v Speaker 3>In flashback there's a death.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, they're finishing up the funeral when Desmond comes along

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<v Speaker 1>in his boat. The Elizabeth Yes, guess who's that it's

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<v Speaker 1>named after? Would you have recognized that's who it was

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<v Speaker 1>if you hadn't read it and lost pedia?

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<v Speaker 2>No, I recognized her, and my husband completely didn't. I

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<v Speaker 2>recognized her in the coffee shop when he met.

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<v Speaker 1>Her, okay, because I was. I was going to my husband,

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<v Speaker 1>look who it is, and he's like, who is it.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, look, look it's a different wig. But look

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<v Speaker 3>he's like, I still't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I did recognize her.

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<v Speaker 1>Crashing Libby's funeral is Libby's boat? Yeah, vote named after her?

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<v Speaker 2>Right, she's she's led a busy life up to this point.

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<v Speaker 1>She has she's been married and to be pre hospital.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she's been married and widowed and lived in a

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<v Speaker 2>mental hospital. So a lot, a lot that went on

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<v Speaker 2>for our Libby.

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<v Speaker 1>Had a romance with Hurley that ended tragically or never

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<v Speaker 1>really started up. Particularly we say again, make sure to

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<v Speaker 1>bring the blanket to your picnics, don't whisk it.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, thinking about that, like she didn't want him

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<v Speaker 2>to recognize her from the hospital, right, yes, I mean

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<v Speaker 2>she seemed uneasy when he kept saying like, I think I.

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<v Speaker 3>Know you recognize you from somewhere, But so.

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<v Speaker 2>Then why would she continue to pursue him or hang

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<v Speaker 2>around him at all.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I think she would stay at the far

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<v Speaker 1>end of the island, right, Is.

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<v Speaker 2>It just the heart wants what it wants? Or keep

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<v Speaker 2>your friends close but your enemy's closer.

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<v Speaker 3>Like, yeah, maybe that which.

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<v Speaker 2>Cliche are we working with here? I'm not sure.

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<v Speaker 1>It didn't matter because she'd killed before anything came of it.

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<v Speaker 1>So thanks Michael for saving us from having to figure

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<v Speaker 1>that out.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, we'll just work on figuring.

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<v Speaker 3>He does.

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<v Speaker 1>They do sadly figure out he was the one who

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<v Speaker 1>killed them while they're out and about. And uh, now

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot going on in this episode. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know we well these apps. I guess it was one

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<v Speaker 1>episode when it was shown on TV, and it's been

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<v Speaker 1>two episodes on like the DVDs and the netflixes and

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<v Speaker 1>everything like that. So this big glob of show, there's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of lot going on, a lot of plot threads,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of characters that we now need to care about.

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<v Speaker 1>And uh, we uh meet a character that I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think I'm spoiling much to say, is going to be

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<v Speaker 1>a big bad Charles widmore.

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<v Speaker 2>Bo the want to be father in law of Desmond.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean not you don't want to be father.

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<v Speaker 2>No, he doesn't want to.

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<v Speaker 1>Be the over his dead body father in law of Desmond. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>the father of Penny win Moore, Desmond's beloved and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>possibly other things as we go along. But a guy

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<v Speaker 1>your letters that you sent to his daughter and.

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<v Speaker 3>Not a good guy.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and now every time every time we see that

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<v Speaker 1>actor on the birthday list, the bad guy for a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>Ellen Dale I think is his name. But and and

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<v Speaker 1>also Penny, I think this is the first time we

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<v Speaker 1>she also will figure in more as we go forward,

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<v Speaker 1>because what the show needs, I think we've agreed is

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<v Speaker 1>more characters.

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<v Speaker 3>People come and somewhere in the Arctic, there's a couple

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<v Speaker 3>of guys.

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<v Speaker 2>Portuguese playing chess.

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<v Speaker 1>Yea.

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<v Speaker 2>They have a special hotline phone.

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<v Speaker 1>ABC is sending them previews so they can if they

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<v Speaker 1>spot anything. Now, yeah, so something's up there, right. But

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<v Speaker 1>in the meantime, the question of it's important to push

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<v Speaker 1>the button? Do you really need to push the button?

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<v Speaker 1>We could not push the button, right, It's all just

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<v Speaker 1>made up. That question is answered pretty resoundingly.

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<v Speaker 3>Holy blinp.

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<v Speaker 1>Everything comes apart, and Desmond knows this because he didn't

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<v Speaker 1>push the button one time, So why didn't he say

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<v Speaker 1>the lock?

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<v Speaker 3>But he didn't, He didn't, They didn't press the button.

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<v Speaker 2>And then the plane crashed. But he didn't realize that.

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<v Speaker 1>He didn't realize the plane crashing part, but he realized

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<v Speaker 1>metal things flying across the room part, right, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>being system failure and being scared to death as he's

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<v Speaker 1>typing it in so that you can't type it in.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he could mention that, yes, it's not true

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<v Speaker 1>that just nothing happens. So I know now that Henry

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<v Speaker 1>hit the button because none of that happened. So why

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<v Speaker 1>he wasn't a little more forceful in saying yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think so.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but I was really losing the thread that whole

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<v Speaker 2>everything about Desmond in the hatch, like before after flashback

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<v Speaker 2>at present, like when he looked up and saw the

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<v Speaker 2>light and it was lock up there, like, uh, I

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<v Speaker 2>was quite confused, I gotta say.

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<v Speaker 3>Locks.

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<v Speaker 1>I read the recap on lost Pedia just to reinforce

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<v Speaker 1>for myself what everything was about, and I guess he

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<v Speaker 1>was going to kill himself, and then he heard the

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<v Speaker 1>wrapping on the hatch right, and he turned on the

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<v Speaker 1>light and that saved him from doing what he was

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<v Speaker 1>gonna do.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, so that life has meaning, It's sure much life

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<v Speaker 1>has meaning.

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<v Speaker 2>I struggled.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a long way to go.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, if you have to go and read the

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<v Speaker 1>recap from how many years ago to figure out what

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<v Speaker 1>the heck that was all about? But uh, that was

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<v Speaker 1>all very weird, but must have been fun doing that

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<v Speaker 1>scene of everything like metal going crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>Flying all over.

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<v Speaker 1>And the little clock that the countdown clock kind of crumpling.

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<v Speaker 3>In on itself.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, well, I guess they don't have to be worried

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<v Speaker 2>I know. Well, it's just like regenerate itself, like now

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<v Speaker 2>they know they got to keep hitting like button.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I guess Desmond did something that released the energy

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<v Speaker 1>or something like that. So maybe it's it's no longer

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, got the other thing that I was totally killing.

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<v Speaker 1>I only know this because I went and read on

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<v Speaker 1>Lost Pdia because I kind of lost the thread there too.

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<v Speaker 2>They can also, but that doesn't mean.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know, sometimes you have to let art flow

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<v Speaker 1>over you. But apparently there's a key, and if you

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<v Speaker 1>go to the actual magnet or whatever it is and

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<v Speaker 1>turn this fail safe key, then you get that trippy

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<v Speaker 1>white and violet light everywhere in that terrible noise. And

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<v Speaker 1>whether then you never have to worry about it again,

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<v Speaker 1>or whether it resets it, I don't know. We will

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<v Speaker 1>find out, I guess, or maybe not. Who cares, But

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<v Speaker 1>I guess he did something that and that's what presumably

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<v Speaker 1>what pennies people saw, right, Okay, So yeah, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>I guess sometimes you just have to go with it, right.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, let's find it. We need to move on

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<v Speaker 2>from this hatch, like we need to just this we're

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<v Speaker 2>trying to talk about.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, there's lots, there's lots going on for a

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<v Speaker 1>little island. Oh sure, we get the whole meeting the

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<v Speaker 1>others thing, the whole misbegotten truck through the jungle and

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<v Speaker 1>then sun and Gin and say on a boat which

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<v Speaker 1>goes by an enormous statue of a foot with four

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<v Speaker 1>toes because we needed a little more weirdness.

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<v Speaker 2>So big, so big, I mean, yes, if there were

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<v Speaker 2>an entire person there, Yeah, and then I.

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<v Speaker 1>Need the production design people having a little fun.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but we don't.

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<v Speaker 1>They're just they're they're part of it is not been

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<v Speaker 1>addressed in this episode. In these two episodes, they're just

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<v Speaker 1>still out there on the ocean.

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<v Speaker 2>I know. That was another thing that had me confused, like.

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<v Speaker 1>A loose end, because I know some things that happened

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<v Speaker 1>with that, and I thought they were going to happen

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<v Speaker 1>in this episode too, but they didn't, So I guess

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<v Speaker 1>that's saved for next season. But boy, Michael and Walt

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<v Speaker 1>get to go away. Yeah, so long good luck. That

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<v Speaker 1>looks like a super seaworthy vessel and one that you'd

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<v Speaker 1>want to spend a long time in. What's to say,

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<v Speaker 1>there's not a bomb in there that you get like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a mile away from the island and it

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<v Speaker 1>blows up. I Michael is a trusting fellow, although not

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<v Speaker 1>that he has a whole lot of choice. Yeah, but

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<v Speaker 1>I thought it was funny. On lost Pedia, they mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>that they filmed that scene like at the beginning of

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<v Speaker 1>the season because that kid was growing so much, right,

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<v Speaker 1>so they.

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<v Speaker 2>Had to And that's kind of when.

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<v Speaker 1>You still sort of looked like the kid we saw

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<v Speaker 1>the others did something to him that made him grow.

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<v Speaker 2>Well and They just kind of kept him in the

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<v Speaker 2>background and in the shadows, and you know, you didn't,

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<v Speaker 2>you didn't really see that much of him.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I think he already by that time had grown

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<v Speaker 1>a lot since we last saw him, which I think

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<v Speaker 1>is the reason that people figured they got rid of

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<v Speaker 1>Walt because he just you can't you can't do a

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<v Speaker 1>show that happens over a short period a long period

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<v Speaker 1>in our viewing time, but an acting time, but a

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<v Speaker 1>short period in the time of the show. You can't

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<v Speaker 1>have a kid on that show. No, it's not gonna

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<v Speaker 1>work unless you say that the show has magical properties

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<v Speaker 1>that makes kids grow. That they totally could have done.

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<v Speaker 1>If it can heal cancer and make legs locks, legs

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<v Speaker 1>work again multiple times, they could just say, oh, and

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<v Speaker 1>it speeds up growth.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, then they have to speed it up for

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<v Speaker 3>So never mind.

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<v Speaker 2>No?

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<v Speaker 1>And so or I have to say, for Hurley, who

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<v Speaker 1>just for anybody? Yeah, if they him specifically, maybe they do.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. Yeah. Yeah, So at the very end there,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's like the last you see of them. But

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like Jack and Kate exchanged looks. Yes, I

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<v Speaker 2>felt like I meant to think that they're communicating something

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<v Speaker 2>to each other, but then Sawyer just was like what

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<v Speaker 2>the heck? Like he just wasn't.

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<v Speaker 1>He wasn't part of it, so I couldn't.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if that's supposed to be important or not.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought it was just sort of a reassuring look.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Everything about this was highly confusing.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes it was. It was. It was two episodes worth

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, But from a parenting point of view, it got

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<v Speaker 1>me thinking about what would you do for your kid?

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<v Speaker 2>Right?

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<v Speaker 1>Would you betray your friends in this way?

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<v Speaker 3>And you know, if it was just.

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<v Speaker 1>You get to go home, if you do this thing,

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<v Speaker 1>then it's kind of lousy. But it's like you will

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<v Speaker 1>him for doing it, right. I mean, he could have

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<v Speaker 1>He's taken a big risk as it is that these

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I mean I'm trying to think, and I

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<v Speaker 1>terms of, you know, betraying your friends for your kid,

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<v Speaker 1>I remember or my mom losing her best friend because

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<v Speaker 1>my mom defended me and that was it. She lost

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<v Speaker 1>her best friend of many years. And it's like, probably

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<v Speaker 3>Because she's stuck with her daughter.

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<v Speaker 1>But we've all sort of probably had times like that

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<v Speaker 2>Yea.

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<v Speaker 1>It usually doesn't mean leaving them blindfolded with a sack

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<v Speaker 1>over their head as you sail away gag. But it

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<v Speaker 1>probably doesn't usually mean killing a couple of people along

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<v Speaker 1>the way. But it does sometimes feel like that, maybe,

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<v Speaker 1>well I stabbed that person in the bag pretty good.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you ever had situations where you feel like you

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<v Speaker 1>had to make that choice?

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<v Speaker 2>I definitely have never killed anyone for my kids, No, figuratively. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. It's it's hard. I don't think I've ever,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, had something as extreme as as that. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like we're going back to the good place

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<v Speaker 2>and the the ethical you know, it's like the trolley problem.

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<v Speaker 2>Your your child is in one trolley and all these

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<v Speaker 2>other people are are in the other trial. Yeah you do.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I mean as a parent, I think you

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<v Speaker 1>have to protect your child. But I'm thinking of when

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<v Speaker 1>been a very forceful advocate, and so people had gotten

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<v Speaker 1>to the point where they pretty much did what I

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<v Speaker 1>asked them to do. And I liked this teacher and

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted my son to have her the next year,

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<v Speaker 1>and also for his you know, it would be nice

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<v Speaker 1>if his friends were in his class. Turned out later,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, maybe didn't know this at the time, that

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<v Speaker 1>his friends hated this teacher and it specifically told their parents,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want this teacher again. But then, because I

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<v Speaker 1>was orchestrating this thing with my you know, great great

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<v Speaker 1>persuasive pilla, I don't know, because I wanted good for

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<v Speaker 1>my kid, I gave them all a miserable school year.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think they still remember. I think their mother

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<v Speaker 1>is still looking at me like, yeah, yeah, that was

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<v Speaker 1>your fault, and they will occasionally. My son's friend, one

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<v Speaker 1>friend will occasionally just say, you remember that teacher.

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<v Speaker 3>She was so awful.

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<v Speaker 1>I hated her, And I'm like, yeah, I'm the reason

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<v Speaker 1>you had You're like, I'm sorry, I was thinking to

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<v Speaker 1>my kid, leaving you on the dock with a bag

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<v Speaker 1>over your head, friend, But you do what you gotta do.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I'm not sure even he liked.

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<v Speaker 1>Her, but I think she liked him. Yeah, yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I felt so proud of myself for orchestrating something that

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<v Speaker 1>made a lot of people unhappy. But yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>when you're a parent, these are the things years, the

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<v Speaker 1>decisions we make, like Claire apparently injecting the baby with

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<v Speaker 1>with this medieval looking syringe on top of it. Dustment's like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't need to do that. Yeah, that's that's not

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't mean anything.

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<v Speaker 2>As he takes another swag from its bottle, like you're

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<v Speaker 2>you're not exactly inspiring confidence right now, sir.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, yes he is not.

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<v Speaker 1>And uh I was thinking in terms of parenting, the

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<v Speaker 1>whole issue of if I'm not going to do this thing,

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<v Speaker 1>then you can't do it. You know, why does Locke

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<v Speaker 1>care if Echo wants to hit the button? Why does

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<v Speaker 1>it have to be I am not going to do

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<v Speaker 1>it anymore and therefore nobody is going to do it,

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<v Speaker 1>or you know, I am going to do it and

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<v Speaker 1>therefore it is important. Why does it matter if other

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<v Speaker 3>Makes me think of sitting in waiting.

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<v Speaker 1>Rooms for special education services, and it's like, if somebody

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<v Speaker 1>has a therapy they found it is the best thing,

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<v Speaker 1>and if you are not doing it, then what is

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<v Speaker 1>the matter with you?

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<v Speaker 3>Go do it right now.

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<v Speaker 1>If you are not doing it is a personal insult

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<v Speaker 1>to me that you are not doing it because I'm

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<v Speaker 1>telling you it is the thing to do. And sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>it could get pretty testy and it's like, what difference

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<v Speaker 1>I'm my not doing it does not invalidate your doing it?

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<v Speaker 2>Right?

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<v Speaker 3>What do you care?

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<v Speaker 1>Take care of your kid. I'm gonna take care of

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<v Speaker 1>my kid. Why do you need me to validate your

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<v Speaker 1>decision by doing the same thing that you're doing. But

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<v Speaker 1>people do want that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, so.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess, yeah, I guess.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Locke needed to feel validated by everybody else agree with him,

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<v Speaker 1>but that didn't work out so well.

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<v Speaker 2>He definitely took it to an extreme.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, yeah, he did two to the point of

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<v Speaker 1>the entire hatch imploding. But yes, It's like, at some

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<v Speaker 1>point he states the obvious, which is that he was wrong,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, oh, oh, buddy, like the latest in

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<v Speaker 1>a long, long, long series of wrongness in your life.

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<v Speaker 1>Perhaps you should just whatever you think is the right

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<v Speaker 1>thing to do, you should do the opposite thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Do not follow your instincts.

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<v Speaker 1>You are not a guy whose instincts should be followed.

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<v Speaker 2>Untunately, sorry to tell you that sir, yep.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And also from a parenting point of view, when

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<v Speaker 1>Desmond says that they're stuck in a snow globe, which

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<v Speaker 1>is an interesting way to think of the island because

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<v Speaker 1>they can't get very far away from it apparently. But

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes when you're a parent, you feel like you're stuck

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<v Speaker 1>or you're just you know, you're a little round of

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<v Speaker 1>that your kid is taking, and that's your sort of

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<v Speaker 1>your life revolves around this very small, in compact area

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<v Speaker 1>of the world, and you don't dare if something happens

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<v Speaker 1>and you have to go out of it, it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't I don't think I can do that. These

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<v Speaker 1>are my parameters. You want me to come away for

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<v Speaker 1>the weekend. No, No, I'm sorry. I would bump up

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<v Speaker 1>against a plastic wall at some point I'm under.

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<v Speaker 3>The dome, yeah, and then I'm just gonna stay.

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<v Speaker 2>You get the two Portuguese guys, I mean they are

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<v Speaker 2>basically in a snow globe, right, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that was so weird way to end that chat

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<v Speaker 1>that episode.

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<v Speaker 3>These episodes, it's like.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, somebody out there knows what's going on here.

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<v Speaker 2>Lizz Hanger.

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<v Speaker 3>Yep, yep, yep, yep.

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<v Speaker 1>So we had one quick Bernard siding during the weird

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<v Speaker 1>lighting thing, trying like he showed up on you f

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<v Speaker 1>went to Hawaii for that. Really, I think you saw

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<v Speaker 1>his back and uh, Clara and Charlie kissed.

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<v Speaker 2>Ah. But I did not like how Charlie was so

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<v Speaker 2>mean to Locke when you saw him crying outside.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Uh, like he just because he feels that Locke

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<v Speaker 1>abandoned him.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, but like he just was cruel, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>I just didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>I just it bothered me to Yeah, hear him. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't lock pretty sharp towards him though, Ye? Wasn't he

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<v Speaker 1>one of the people who just really rejected Charlie. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's pile on Lockday. Yeah, he just he kind.

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<v Speaker 3>Of deserves it.

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<v Speaker 1>Kind of caused a disaster, and we don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>mister Echo is alive or not he blew or if

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<v Speaker 1>he blew himself up.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, didn't Charlie try kind of No, I guess Charlie

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<v Speaker 2>got out and then.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't remember there being anything about him.

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<v Speaker 3>But I believe that he lives too.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, DIY another day.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, to build another church or something.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, so what else? Weren't expecting poisoned darts? They

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<v Speaker 2>Been a little yep, that's it.

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<v Speaker 3>They're tricky.

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<v Speaker 2>Game over. Yeah. Oh and we got to see what

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<v Speaker 2>happens to the pneumatic tubes.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, that was hilarious.

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<v Speaker 2>It was.

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<v Speaker 3>It took me a minute to realize.

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<v Speaker 1>My husband pointed out to me what those were, and

433
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<v Speaker 1>it's like, oh my gosh.

434
00:24:37.880 --> 00:24:39.839
<v Speaker 3>So about Desmond.

435
00:24:39.519 --> 00:24:42.480
<v Speaker 2>Was throwing stuff out into the void.

436
00:24:42.799 --> 00:24:47.400
<v Speaker 1>That, yeah, and they found you were worried about Locke's map.

437
00:24:47.440 --> 00:24:47.880
<v Speaker 3>They found it.

438
00:24:48.119 --> 00:24:50.519
<v Speaker 2>They found it. I don't know what it is.

439
00:24:51.599 --> 00:24:54.960
<v Speaker 3>Or anything in the time since, but it was.

440
00:24:54.960 --> 00:24:56.880
<v Speaker 1>It was it Desmond who said that maybe the psychic

441
00:24:56.920 --> 00:25:00.640
<v Speaker 1>experiment was in that hatch, which apparently it was, because

442
00:25:00.680 --> 00:25:03.880
<v Speaker 1>they were writing things and and putting them in the

443
00:25:03.920 --> 00:25:05.319
<v Speaker 1>tubes which dumped them.

444
00:25:05.160 --> 00:25:07.039
<v Speaker 2>And build the jungle. Right.

445
00:25:07.799 --> 00:25:12.640
<v Speaker 1>Oh, galy, that's hilarious. It's I have I have had

446
00:25:12.720 --> 00:25:15.480
<v Speaker 1>jobs where it feels like that's what happened.

447
00:25:16.200 --> 00:25:20.200
<v Speaker 3>Yes, here's my thing I've worked on so hard.

448
00:25:23.400 --> 00:25:27.359
<v Speaker 2>Well that cares that could apply to work, children's homework,

449
00:25:28.440 --> 00:25:29.720
<v Speaker 2>could apply to just.

450
00:25:29.720 --> 00:25:32.920
<v Speaker 3>Slide to podcasts. We're gonna dundle this in the tube, but.

451
00:25:32.880 --> 00:25:33.480
<v Speaker 2>It's just good.

452
00:25:35.240 --> 00:25:36.400
<v Speaker 3>It just goes out there.

453
00:25:37.400 --> 00:25:39.440
<v Speaker 1>It's in a pile of pile of our episodes in

454
00:25:39.480 --> 00:25:42.400
<v Speaker 1>a jungle someplace, completely ignored.

455
00:25:42.839 --> 00:25:47.480
<v Speaker 2>Just some of the tasks of parenting, right, I mean, yes,

456
00:25:47.799 --> 00:25:56.759
<v Speaker 2>they just they just seem entirely meaning yes, maybe maybe

457
00:25:56.799 --> 00:26:01.279
<v Speaker 2>they turn out to be something after all. That's right.

458
00:26:01.920 --> 00:26:03.960
<v Speaker 1>It does seem like a lot of your time, you're

459
00:26:04.000 --> 00:26:06.799
<v Speaker 1>just putting stuff in a tube that's going nowhere, But

460
00:26:06.839 --> 00:26:10.839
<v Speaker 1>you gotta do it. It might be important, you never know.

461
00:26:11.160 --> 00:26:16.519
<v Speaker 1>And it did. The printer in the other hatch printing

462
00:26:16.599 --> 00:26:20.720
<v Speaker 1>on and on and on and on improbably did show

463
00:26:20.920 --> 00:26:23.960
<v Speaker 1>Desmond that he crashed the plane. He was able to

464
00:26:23.960 --> 00:26:29.240
<v Speaker 1>go through these how many pages of numbers and find

465
00:26:29.319 --> 00:26:32.880
<v Speaker 1>the exact date of the plane crashing. I guess he

466
00:26:33.000 --> 00:26:35.559
<v Speaker 1>just had to look for system failure, system failure, system failures,

467
00:26:35.559 --> 00:26:36.960
<v Speaker 1>system system failures.

468
00:26:37.720 --> 00:26:39.480
<v Speaker 3>So once he.

469
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<v Speaker 1>Saw that he could look at the date before it oops.

470
00:26:44.640 --> 00:26:49.079
<v Speaker 1>And the guy who was his previous partner, Kelvin, was

471
00:26:49.160 --> 00:26:55.480
<v Speaker 1>also the guy who I think taught Sayid to torture, right, Yeah.

472
00:26:55.119 --> 00:26:58.680
<v Speaker 2>He I knew we had seen him before, and then

473
00:26:58.680 --> 00:27:01.839
<v Speaker 2>when he said something about how he was in the military,

474
00:27:02.440 --> 00:27:04.599
<v Speaker 2>I was like, oh, yeah, we saw him in Iraq

475
00:27:04.759 --> 00:27:07.759
<v Speaker 2>somehow with Sayid. I don't yes, but I didn't.

476
00:27:07.839 --> 00:27:11.559
<v Speaker 1>Quit because people people followed my rules or something like that.

477
00:27:12.000 --> 00:27:15.000
<v Speaker 1>So yes, I believe. I remember reading at the time

478
00:27:15.000 --> 00:27:17.839
<v Speaker 1>of that episode that it was that same guy, Clancy

479
00:27:17.839 --> 00:27:23.720
<v Speaker 1>Brown is the actor. So but they shall never meet

480
00:27:24.000 --> 00:27:27.279
<v Speaker 1>again because he died before anybody got there.

481
00:27:27.880 --> 00:27:32.759
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because Desmond killed him.

482
00:27:32.960 --> 00:27:34.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, a lot of that going around.

483
00:27:35.400 --> 00:27:37.839
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, see is he in the is he in the

484
00:27:37.880 --> 00:27:40.920
<v Speaker 1>Island Cemetery although the Island Cemetery didn't exist then, but

485
00:27:41.920 --> 00:27:43.319
<v Speaker 1>perhaps it has an auxiliary.

486
00:27:45.319 --> 00:27:49.559
<v Speaker 2>Well he yeah, was that at the time. He then

487
00:27:50.240 --> 00:27:52.559
<v Speaker 2>did go back to the hatch. I don't remember.

488
00:27:53.640 --> 00:27:56.240
<v Speaker 1>I yeah, it's all kind of a blur, but no,

489
00:27:56.359 --> 00:28:00.799
<v Speaker 1>he I think he did. He did go back because

490
00:28:00.799 --> 00:28:02.279
<v Speaker 1>at some point he was going to kill himself and

491
00:28:02.279 --> 00:28:05.279
<v Speaker 1>that's when he heard lock tapping and he turned on

492
00:28:05.319 --> 00:28:07.720
<v Speaker 1>the light. So that that had to be after the

493
00:28:07.720 --> 00:28:10.079
<v Speaker 1>plane crashed, and the plane crashed on the day that

494
00:28:10.200 --> 00:28:17.519
<v Speaker 1>Calvin died. So yeah, yeah, he was there until Jack

495
00:28:18.160 --> 00:28:21.960
<v Speaker 1>found him there, right, and then he took off onto

496
00:28:21.960 --> 00:28:23.680
<v Speaker 1>his bat. You couldn't get out of the snow glow.

497
00:28:23.880 --> 00:28:24.200
<v Speaker 2>Right.

498
00:28:25.400 --> 00:28:32.880
<v Speaker 1>Oh, so much story, so much flashbacks, flash forwards.

499
00:28:33.319 --> 00:28:35.839
<v Speaker 2>I'm concerned for when we start getting into the flash

500
00:28:35.880 --> 00:28:39.559
<v Speaker 2>forwards and flash sideways, I'm gonna really, this.

501
00:28:41.039 --> 00:28:42.519
<v Speaker 3>Is why we have lost media.

502
00:28:42.680 --> 00:28:46.519
<v Speaker 1>Explain it to us, please, But you can see, I mean,

503
00:28:46.640 --> 00:28:49.799
<v Speaker 1>there is so much. They throw so much stuff out there,

504
00:28:50.400 --> 00:28:53.240
<v Speaker 1>which is why, and it's more than they can ever

505
00:28:53.279 --> 00:28:56.720
<v Speaker 1>go back and explain. Yeah, and so that's why people

506
00:28:56.759 --> 00:28:59.920
<v Speaker 1>were really running with it and seeing connections and say

507
00:29:00.240 --> 00:29:03.319
<v Speaker 1>things and this person's name is this and that means that,

508
00:29:03.599 --> 00:29:07.599
<v Speaker 1>and you know, storylines for all those others who were

509
00:29:07.640 --> 00:29:11.440
<v Speaker 1>standing there on the deck or the pier or whatever

510
00:29:11.480 --> 00:29:15.759
<v Speaker 1>it was. So we shall be in Otherville next season.

511
00:29:16.319 --> 00:29:16.839
<v Speaker 3>Oh wow.

512
00:29:18.440 --> 00:29:20.680
<v Speaker 1>At least they did get back to Kate knowing that

513
00:29:20.720 --> 00:29:23.400
<v Speaker 1>all the costumes were a fake, by her calling it out,

514
00:29:23.480 --> 00:29:25.480
<v Speaker 1>and then her also telling the guy, I know your

515
00:29:25.480 --> 00:29:32.319
<v Speaker 1>beard is fake, and then why we have captured me

516
00:29:32.359 --> 00:29:35.359
<v Speaker 1>and I'm here humiliated, But dude, lose the beard.

517
00:29:35.440 --> 00:29:37.400
<v Speaker 3>It looks ridiculous beard, It's dumb.

518
00:29:38.000 --> 00:29:44.039
<v Speaker 2>But then then immediately not Henry's like, where's your beard? Like, yeah,

519
00:29:44.079 --> 00:29:45.319
<v Speaker 2>why does anyone care?

520
00:29:47.519 --> 00:29:50.599
<v Speaker 1>Anyway, it's not like he's trying to hide his identity,

521
00:29:50.680 --> 00:29:54.799
<v Speaker 1>is it right? It's nobody here would recognize him otherwise, right,

522
00:29:55.240 --> 00:29:58.480
<v Speaker 1>Oh well, Watts set up for the next season, that

523
00:29:58.640 --> 00:30:02.519
<v Speaker 1>is for sure, Yes, including the three people on a boat.

524
00:30:02.920 --> 00:30:05.200
<v Speaker 1>Three people on a boat, two people in the Arctic,

525
00:30:06.880 --> 00:30:07.799
<v Speaker 1>all sorts.

526
00:30:07.519 --> 00:30:10.599
<v Speaker 2>Of and don't forget two more people on a boat.

527
00:30:10.799 --> 00:30:12.240
<v Speaker 2>Walt and Michael.

528
00:30:12.559 --> 00:30:19.480
<v Speaker 1>Oh, that's right, off they go. Yes, can they get

529
00:30:19.480 --> 00:30:20.440
<v Speaker 1>out of the snow globe?

530
00:30:20.720 --> 00:30:23.759
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's the question I have my toats.

531
00:30:24.519 --> 00:30:27.319
<v Speaker 1>And also where is Vincent?

532
00:30:28.839 --> 00:30:29.279
<v Speaker 3>Vincent?

533
00:30:30.039 --> 00:30:30.799
<v Speaker 2>That's true?

534
00:30:31.359 --> 00:30:33.319
<v Speaker 1>How could he not have brought that I wanted? I

535
00:30:33.359 --> 00:30:34.759
<v Speaker 1>wanted wal to a last say.

536
00:30:34.640 --> 00:30:35.480
<v Speaker 3>Did you bring Vincent?

537
00:30:35.759 --> 00:30:35.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

538
00:30:36.000 --> 00:30:37.039
<v Speaker 2>Where's my dog?

539
00:30:37.319 --> 00:30:40.519
<v Speaker 1>Vincent has forgotten? And honestly, Vincent has kind of become

540
00:30:41.519 --> 00:30:44.400
<v Speaker 1>jungle dog. Yeah, he maybe would not want to go.

541
00:30:44.680 --> 00:30:47.680
<v Speaker 1>It's like in that boat. I don't think so. Right,

542
00:30:49.920 --> 00:30:53.519
<v Speaker 1>he's become an enchanted jungle dog and probably have special

543
00:30:53.519 --> 00:30:56.599
<v Speaker 1>powers by now. So, uh, you know, he's just gonna

544
00:30:56.599 --> 00:31:00.759
<v Speaker 1>pop up every now and then to uh remind people

545
00:31:01.359 --> 00:31:08.400
<v Speaker 1>he exists. Yeah, yeah, I agree. Speak up for the dog,

546
00:31:09.880 --> 00:31:13.559
<v Speaker 1>our our dog podcasters will now come forward and speak

547
00:31:13.599 --> 00:31:21.039
<v Speaker 1>about Vincent our dog correspondent is here, But I mean

548
00:31:21.079 --> 00:31:24.279
<v Speaker 1>the family isn't altogether all right. You're ditch it out

549
00:31:24.319 --> 00:31:26.319
<v Speaker 1>on your friends, but you're also ditch it out and

550
00:31:26.359 --> 00:31:27.079
<v Speaker 1>your dang dog.

551
00:31:27.640 --> 00:31:31.359
<v Speaker 3>Yep, but no room for the dog in that boat.

552
00:31:32.160 --> 00:31:34.559
<v Speaker 3>They'll come back for him, That's what Michael's gonna say.

553
00:31:34.559 --> 00:31:35.160
<v Speaker 3>We'll come back for.

554
00:31:38.119 --> 00:31:40.799
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we'll come back for him and everybody.

555
00:31:45.519 --> 00:31:49.839
<v Speaker 1>Oh, well, you'll pop up every now and then, yes,

556
00:31:50.880 --> 00:31:55.240
<v Speaker 1>just just so we can all say it's it's fdsent.

557
00:31:56.799 --> 00:32:05.319
<v Speaker 1>What a cutie, beautifully clean every time we see him.

558
00:32:06.039 --> 00:32:07.880
<v Speaker 1>My dog can go to the dog park and get

559
00:32:07.960 --> 00:32:10.559
<v Speaker 1>covered with dirt in half an hour. Vincent has been

560
00:32:10.559 --> 00:32:14.799
<v Speaker 1>on this island for months and just looks like he.

561
00:32:14.799 --> 00:32:18.880
<v Speaker 3>Came from the groomer. Yeah, yeah, Okay, it's a weird.

562
00:32:19.880 --> 00:32:23.599
<v Speaker 1>The island can regenerate your clean coat, just as it

563
00:32:23.640 --> 00:32:27.640
<v Speaker 1>can regenerate lock's legs. Don't ask questions. What were you

564
00:32:27.640 --> 00:32:28.559
<v Speaker 1>gonna say about your dog?

565
00:32:28.920 --> 00:32:32.279
<v Speaker 2>Oh, just that she can go outside in the yard

566
00:32:32.359 --> 00:32:36.680
<v Speaker 2>and come back in with green feet from grass.

567
00:32:36.799 --> 00:32:42.160
<v Speaker 1>Yes, so the lock people do not know how dogs work.

568
00:32:42.640 --> 00:32:44.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Vincent's entire body should be.

569
00:32:45.559 --> 00:32:49.880
<v Speaker 1>Yes and covered with birds and dirt and possibly the

570
00:32:49.920 --> 00:32:51.920
<v Speaker 1>blood of small animals. It is eaten because it doesn't

571
00:32:51.920 --> 00:32:55.839
<v Speaker 1>look like anybody's feeding him. But it's magic.

572
00:32:56.519 --> 00:32:58.319
<v Speaker 3>It's magic. That's all we need to know.

573
00:32:59.680 --> 00:33:08.519
<v Speaker 1>So, oh, next week we launch into season three of Lost. Yeah,

574
00:33:09.000 --> 00:33:12.880
<v Speaker 1>called a Tale of two Cities. There are no cities

575
00:33:13.480 --> 00:33:18.079
<v Speaker 1>on the island. Maybe it's the Maybe it's the others

576
00:33:18.160 --> 00:33:22.799
<v Speaker 1>and the and the castaways. Maybe those are the two

577
00:33:22.839 --> 00:33:25.079
<v Speaker 1>cities or was the Is that the one that starts

578
00:33:25.119 --> 00:33:26.359
<v Speaker 1>with it was the best of times, It was the

579
00:33:26.359 --> 00:33:27.359
<v Speaker 1>worst of times.

580
00:33:27.400 --> 00:33:30.160
<v Speaker 2>I think. So there is nothing that was the best

581
00:33:30.200 --> 00:33:31.880
<v Speaker 2>of times in this place.

582
00:33:31.880 --> 00:33:32.480
<v Speaker 3>That's right.

583
00:33:35.200 --> 00:33:35.519
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

584
00:33:35.599 --> 00:33:36.799
<v Speaker 3>They might have a party.

585
00:33:37.599 --> 00:33:43.400
<v Speaker 1>They got darm and nutra bars apparently, so they can

586
00:33:43.480 --> 00:33:46.200
<v Speaker 1>have themselves a good time checking out what happened to

587
00:33:46.279 --> 00:33:49.960
<v Speaker 1>that hatch was putting all the metal objects away, putting

588
00:33:50.000 --> 00:33:51.240
<v Speaker 1>the darts back in the dart board.

589
00:33:51.359 --> 00:33:53.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, maybe don't have darts down there.

590
00:33:55.720 --> 00:33:57.279
<v Speaker 3>It's a giant maget. Magnet.

591
00:33:57.359 --> 00:34:00.720
<v Speaker 1>Let's get some super sharp metal objects and just have

592
00:34:00.839 --> 00:34:09.679
<v Speaker 1>them loosely attached to a corkboard. Oh well, anyway, so

593
00:34:09.880 --> 00:34:11.199
<v Speaker 1>next week, a Tale.

594
00:34:10.920 --> 00:34:11.599
<v Speaker 3>Of two Cities.

595
00:34:12.079 --> 00:34:17.239
<v Speaker 1>Tomorrow the last episode of season one of Running Point

596
00:34:17.960 --> 00:34:22.519
<v Speaker 1>Slightly Less Disastrous. Thank you for listening. You can find

597
00:34:22.559 --> 00:34:26.239
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598
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601
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