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Speaker 1: Hello, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome back to the it

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What the did that do something? Hang on and say

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sorry audio listeners, Uh, and welcome to the Welcome to

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Dairy Spoilers review. I am uh the Canadian nightmare.

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Speaker 2: I trust now, Jesus, I am the lifeboat dol' muss.

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Speaker 3: I swear because people know this.

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Speaker 1: If I have with my the video on stream yard,

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it does funny things like I do a peace sign,

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gives me the balloons if I give a thumbs up,

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because thumbs up the heart. But I threw my arm

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up what I did like the you know, welcome back

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and then it did it did, so I have to

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go back and look at that.

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Speaker 2: So I always love the firework one is.

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Speaker 1: Did I just is that what it was with the fireworks?

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Speaker 2: Maybe that's what it was. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't even know.

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Speaker 3: What fireworks is. Oh, it was the two of the spot.

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Speaker 1: Anyway. So we're here a toub ups of five Taylor.

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We'll be here in a second. He's busy and I

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don't know, chasing down road or something. But we are

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over the halfway point now of this series. So we

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are yeah, yeah, good, bad and different. I don't know.

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We'll find out, but lots of stuff on the feeds.

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Last week we had a fun newscast, just a bunch

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of different topics.

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Speaker 3: There's a weekly geek.

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Speaker 1: I was on side quest with.

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Speaker 3: Dylan and uh has told you.

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Speaker 1: I think there's something else that drop but maybe no,

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I can't remember. But this week obviously we got side

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quest to more than records with you and Kirkland. You

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guys got a main topic yet or just a shooting

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the breeze.

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Speaker 2: Not really, There's been a couple like smaller news things,

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but we might have to drum up a topic, so

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it might be it might be a topic y episode.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, best drumming games. You got rock Band, you got

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Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, I wonder there there what's that one on

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like the DS? I don't know if you you played

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that one back in the day. I don't even know

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what it was called. It was like a Japanese game,

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but it was super fun.

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Speaker 1: There you go. Look out for no discussion on that.

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Maybe ask Crkland see if he knows. But yeah, and

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then we got some other big reviews. Me and here

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can be reviewing a Wake Up dead Man and nice

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out story because we're getting that in Colonna somehow, so

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that's exciting. On Tuesday, just a non sports of course,

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we'll do spoilers. We'll drop that closer Tuesday, don't worry.

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But then we got I'll be reviewing the volume one

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of Stranger Things. So that's why I will say to

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all nuts on Patreon, I will be doing the trust

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told you that counts as one. But I don't. I

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haven't figured out days. It's just a Monday and Wednesday.

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But I got a lot of stuff going on. So

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I got baby shots. They're one year vaccinations, which is

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always a good time. Dalan, always a good time sticking

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needles into little babies. You know, it's always a breeze.

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Speaker 2: But it sounds like very dairy related activities.

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Speaker 1: It does. Yeah, so look up for that and then yeah,

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I think that's about it this week. So yeah, still

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lots of good stuff in the feeds describe We very

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much think everybody that does subscribe, whether it's in the

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free feeds or Patreon, I guess it should look. Let

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me quickly look.

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Speaker 3: I will assume maybe this week that poll is gonna

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and two weeks to record the Christmas retrospective so

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I'll be putting that up soon. And yeah, lots of

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good stuff there. We very much think everyone that does that.

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Our page on producers Aaron Braden, April Darkness, Jack Grant,

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Sam Super Bad, Mike Godles, Me sixty nine, Charlie Randale, Cocktail,

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Lots of good stuff coming away next year and in

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the next couple of weeks as well. So, Dylan Muss,

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of a rocky road from you for the review that

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I heard, wasn't digging this one or that one? Are

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you digging this one?

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Speaker 1: Same?

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that it's been very much like back and forth. Keeps

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Speaker 4: It was on fire. It really was. This episode was great.

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it's just it's doing its own really awesome stride forward

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Speaker 3: Fun episodes coming up.

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Speaker 1: Now, right, I think? Good more? Yeah?

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so maybe only three more. So I'll be see interesting

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right back and we are back. So, Dylan, I wanted

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you to start because I want to see where you were.

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What what was that one storyline or one aspect you

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weren't to dig in the most out of this one.

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but I think the one that I wanted to bring up,

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and it's kind of a minor detail. So maybe I'm

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just you know, nitpicking here, but for me, it was

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it was the scene with Ramar and I forget the

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I forget his characters names. I'm just calling him Ramar,

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and then I forget the name of the character he

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was talking to, who's like the person he was friends

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with as a kid.

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Speaker 5: Name.

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Speaker 1: Oh right, it's like alice or something. I can find

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it out, but yeah, I'll find it. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So there's a scene where they're talking and you know,

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they had a big conversation. I think it was the

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last week, maybe it was two weeks ago, just kind

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of catching up on things, and he we find out

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in this episode that he was lying to her that

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he remembered more than he said he did, and the

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solution for that was that the government had given him

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had given him a drug that like helped him accelerate

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to remember the things that he had forgotten and then

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like all rushed back to him, which to me is

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just like super weird because I feel like that's what

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happens even in like it uh chapter two is like yeah,

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the re memories kind of slowly come back over time

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as they see certain situations. But it just felt like

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a really weird, clumsy solution that like the government just

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had this magical drug that helps you specifically remember. Like

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I don't know, is it just specifically for Dairy and

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the weird memory stuff that happened there, because I feel

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like if it's just a memory thing in general, I

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don't know if that makes sense, because it's kind of

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like Pennywise's magic that fucks with people's memory. Right, Yeah, I.

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Speaker 4: Wouldn't say it would be dairy. I wouldn't. I would

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just say the military is doing some weird drug shit,

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you know.

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Speaker 5: Just to like testing shit out, and it probably just like,

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oh my god, I was remembering all these lucid shit

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that went on. I remember this one time I was

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a kid. Oh my god kind of a thing.

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Speaker 2: So like they're testing out on the ramar or they're like, oh,

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we made this drug that helps people remember things, and

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we're just gonna pop it in you. Because I feel

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like he's high enough up. I don't think he'd be

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just taking random experimental drugs, right.

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Speaker 1: This could be before he got higher up though, right

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before well, Like, even though it sounds like a somewhat

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recent I feel like this is the.

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Speaker 3: I'm with you.

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Speaker 1: I don't. I'm with you on two ways. One I

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don't like like to me, the penny Wise with them

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leaving Dairy to me should be more of a supernatural

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spiritual thing. Shouldn't be well, I got this drug that

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can get this stuff back, right, it should be the second.

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Speaker 2: You wouldn't his memories come back anyway? Eventually so it

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also just felt like kind of if.

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Speaker 4: He goes stairy though that's what he did.

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Speaker 5: He did, but only because he had the memory, like

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he remembered some shit from before.

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Speaker 1: Right. Yeah, I guess I'm just waiting to see. And

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that's where I am of two things. One, I don't

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love the penny wise hit thing of the you know,

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kind of the curse or whatnot. And I guess even

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then it's kind of a little bit different though, because

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I remember in chapter two when they phone the adults,

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they start to remember some stuff. But to me, that

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kind of works as far as the character from Darry

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specifically reminding you of, hey, we went through this stuff

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together with this clown and that jogging some stuff kind

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of breaking the curse or this, I don't like that.

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And then also I just need to see these next episodes,

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which I don't think they're going to justify. Why what

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makes it any difference. The original pitch was, Okay, the

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army's going there to look at this project. He sees

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a file and then starts to remember, and he gets

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into dry versus. You know, he brought the army there

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and he remember all the time. I guess it's to

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not have him as like.

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Speaker 3: A trustworthy character.

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Speaker 1: Maybe, but I just don't felt like they made him

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have like a big heel turn then of like, oh,

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he's really screwing rows over like he already did right

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as far as he had him locked up. Maybe that's it.

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this guy something? And they tried to go, oh, while

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he is actually a really bad guy. But then I

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just kind of wish they always did that, because it

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didn't feel like remar a couple episodes ago when he

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went to her shop, it didn't feel like she revealed

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something of oh this is a guy that I trusted

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as a young fellow, I'll give you this information. It

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was kind of like, well, I gotta do this, and

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I'll stay in my lene and you stay in your lane.

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So I need to see more episodes and see maybe

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he's gonna get more shitty and that's the idea behind it,

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but right now feels maybe unnecessary.

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Speaker 5: But you know, that's the big kicker is all these

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people are getting more shitty because they have that brief

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little bit of dialogue where you have this elders meeting

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and they're talking about how the creature discharges, right, and

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the people are drinking the water, and that leads up

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to some massive peak event of just like a shooting

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or some kind of big nasty thing. Then you get

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to twenty seven years a piece, right, So I think

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that's probably this it's the escalation of people getting more shitty.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but he but he's getting more shitty because he's

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revealed something. It's not like because it's like he was

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always right. You're saying these people that are maybe had

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this water, they're getting a little infected. Where this is, Oh,

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he is already manipulating her from day one, right, no

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matter what he lied about his intentions. That's why I

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can't get on board with that. So I just I

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don't know what it serves. But like I said, I'll

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wait and see what happens with Ramar's character and kind

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of go from there. But it was a weird as

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at this point it felt unnecessary to add on, you know.

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Speaker 2: And to me, it's like, you know, obviously we'll see

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how this show ends with this season, and if everyone dies,

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then I guess that makes sense. But if not, it's

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like I just don't understand how they the military doesn't

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like track down, Like, oh yeah, I guess in twenty

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seven years we got to like send a unit to

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like back to Dary to you know, solve this problem

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again that seemingly pops up Like it feels like if

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they have information and they have a drug that can

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help them remember stuff that they normally would forget because

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they've made this mystery drug, then like, how does this

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keep happening? I so obviously have all these characters, you know,

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all the people of interest die in this series. I

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guess that makes sense because they all that info goes

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with them. But I don't know. I guess this just

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to me as a prequel to like chapter one and two.

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I don't know if it's I don't know if it's

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coming together for me, but yeah, maybe I'm speaking too soon.

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On episode five here, I.

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Speaker 1: Think it's always been the worry with the army stuff, right,

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because it's getting it so well known in the government,

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And that's where I guess, Okay, you have to kill

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everybody off, but we know if that's the way you're falling.

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We know Dick's not dying, and we know Hamlin's not

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dying because he actually know we don't. He doesn't die

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because he's in it chapter one. He's like the grandparent

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that's taking and looking after Mike Handling, so we know

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he's gonna make it.

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Speaker 3: So that's where it just feels like, why wouldn't they

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know more?

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Speaker 1: Maybe I guess maybe there's a chance they for some

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reason think they stop said, you know, penny Wise sort

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of thing the same way in the first you know,

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and it they'd say, like the SCHUMANNHETI falls on the

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well and they're like, oh, if it ever comes back.

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So maybe it's like that, But I don't know if

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I love that either of penny Wise.

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Speaker 2: Literally again connecting with the people who have been living

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here for hundreds of years and they're like, oh, yeah,

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this happens every twenty seven years, and like we think

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we've defeated him whatever, but he just keeps coming back.

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I don't know, you think that they would trust some

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of that too, considering that, like all their other information

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seems to be correct and corroborated.

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Speaker 1: And that's a little on the other point where it's

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Rose was her name, the person with hermar when they

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are together and it's yeah, group of at least fifteen

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to maybe twenty of them, and they're talking about all

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this happens and this is the worst that's ever got.

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That does make it feel a little odd when that

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storylines nowhere in it chapter one, right, it's just the

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kids around, and you kind of get that later on

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in it chapter two, but it's almost explained that all

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those folk are all gone, right, And I guess I

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guess maybe by the time we get twenty seven years,

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well of them can pass away or die. But I

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wouldn't think all of them would, but I guess, you know,

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we're just gonna go with maybe they all are. So

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I agree with you where I think, by itself, I

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enjoy the stories, but I think it is tough for

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when you start to connect it to it chapter one,

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there is some as a right now, some kind of

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lucy goosey rules going on, or I guess the army

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just deems it as like, oh, it's too dangerous and

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we're just gonna leave dairy alone, which I'm sure that's

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what they're gonna say. I imagine maybe.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Like once they have like soldiers dying, it seems like, okay, well,

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now we've gone like nuclear with this and we got

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to like make sure that we figure this solution out.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I agree, which I did enjoy all that

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stuff because I think we kind of talked about I

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even said, like, even though I end up liking the

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dick holler and stuff, I said, oh, what's the point

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of when we're doing the army, they're just gonna do aliens.

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And they kind of did that this episode right up.

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A bunch of guys going into the hole and penny

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Wise is gonna take them out, and I almost feel

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like they didn't go. They had some cool scared I

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didn't feel like they went as graph as as I

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thought they were gonna kind of go. It just felt

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like a lot of the shoulders the soldiers seeing something

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scary and then it gets them and then they're gone.

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Speaker 3: I kind of thought they go a little.

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Speaker 1: More, especially like that first episode with the kids in

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the theater, I feel like that was really brutal. So

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I kind of feel like, especially with these as adults,

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they're gonna go really hard. But so yeah, in the

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storyline wise, maybe not. But I liked the idea of

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the kids being down there, the soldiers being down there,

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and I thought that was fun. The sequence is the wells,

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and I think we've seen kind of some places we

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haven't seen before, So.

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Speaker 3: That part when they go in and they're just waist deep.

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Speaker 1: Never good in any scary movie or game to be

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waist deep in the water. But I enjoyed all this stuff.

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Obviously we get the big revealed the yet, but I

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enjoyed all the other people being taken out and whatnot.

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Speaker 2: So what did you guys think of specifically the one

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soldier and his greatest fear being the uncle Sam I

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want you propaganda thing.

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Speaker 1: I took that he's just more he's he was scared

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to join the army, because I guess this is still

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in the air where people are are they by choice?

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They're not by choice, right, they aren't they get drafted.

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Speaker 2: Still, I have to imagine this guy got drafted or

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he's think the Cold War drafted, Like I feel like

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he's already been drafted. So I don't know if he

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was like he's fearing that he was drafted, or or

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if he's being something.

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Speaker 1: From it that just you're scared of being a soldier.

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But even then, I guess like they wouldn't want, like

475
00:20:07,799 --> 00:20:10,680
they should not put anybody that scared down in this situation.

476
00:20:11,039 --> 00:20:11,240
You know.

477
00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:14,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a little little cheesy for my liking.

478
00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:18,680
Speaker 1: I it's I liked it, but I don't think you're

479
00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:20,640
wrong that it was cheesy. But I liked seeing the

480
00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:22,640
like grotest Uncle Sam. I just maybe wish it was

481
00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:24,759
set up better, like maybe if we had some backstorre

482
00:20:24,799 --> 00:20:27,039
on this character of why this would be pert But

483
00:20:27,039 --> 00:20:28,599
I guess they just said, hey, you're going to see

484
00:20:28,599 --> 00:20:32,279
your fears, and you know, hey, Will Hanlin saw his wife,

485
00:20:32,319 --> 00:20:33,839
so I guess he was afraid of her, right because

486
00:20:33,839 --> 00:20:35,640
they said you're gonna see your darkest figures down here,

487
00:20:35,759 --> 00:20:39,279
and he didn't, like didn't they get him because he

488
00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:41,440
had like no fear or something like that.

489
00:20:41,559 --> 00:20:43,000
Speaker 3: Wasn't there a whole test about.

490
00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:47,880
Speaker 2: That for handling? Yeah, that I don't know.

491
00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:51,839
Speaker 1: Because remember he suffered some injury in his brain. I

492
00:20:51,839 --> 00:20:53,759
thought we talked like episode one or two where they're

493
00:20:53,759 --> 00:20:57,160
talking about he like fear doesn't affect him the same

494
00:20:57,160 --> 00:20:59,160
way other people did, and that's why we were talking

495
00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:01,559
about like, oh, why him, why specifically this thing.

496
00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:04,440
Speaker 5: They definitely set that up because Dick has this whole

497
00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:07,799
dialogue with him right like, oh, when I usually when

498
00:21:07,839 --> 00:21:10,680
I scam people's minds, they have fear and this and that.

499
00:21:10,759 --> 00:21:13,559
But you there was just you're scanning and you're figuring

500
00:21:13,559 --> 00:21:15,039
it out and everything like that. I thought, Oh, that

501
00:21:15,039 --> 00:21:17,480
would have been cool to explore, but he just got

502
00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:21,160
Well was he afraid because like, is he supposed to

503
00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:23,119
be afraid of his wife? I don't know, because like

504
00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:24,960
he was reactive like you.

505
00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:27,359
Speaker 1: I think, I just take anybody that Pennywise can give

506
00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:29,759
a vision to is somewhat afraid, right, because that's how

507
00:21:29,759 --> 00:21:32,079
penny Wise, Yeah does that stuff. So he had to

508
00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:34,440
be afraid of something where the guy beside him he

509
00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:36,160
didn't get no vision. So this guy was better than

510
00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:40,759
Holler or yeah handling, he was better than him. He

511
00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:43,079
had no fear whatsoever. He actually took a bullet for

512
00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:46,799
these damn kids. You know. So I thought that was

513
00:21:46,799 --> 00:21:49,599
a subplot that we talked about at some point, with

514
00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:50,759
the fear and stuff.

515
00:21:50,799 --> 00:21:52,000
Speaker 2: So yeah, that makes sense.

516
00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:54,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, what do you think to have the wealth?

517
00:21:58,000 --> 00:21:59,720
Speaker 3: You can try to block her, but we see her

518
00:21:59,759 --> 00:22:00,160
back there.

519
00:22:00,599 --> 00:22:03,640
Speaker 4: I know, I know, I gotta figure out how you.

520
00:22:03,599 --> 00:22:05,000
Speaker 1: Need to get like a sheet you can just pull

521
00:22:05,079 --> 00:22:12,160
down like a little cubic blank. Ye. What do you

522
00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:13,599
think of the soldiers down there and everything?

523
00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:16,799
Speaker 4: I think them going down there, I liked it. I

524
00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:17,400
liked it a lot.

525
00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:21,359
Speaker 5: I thought it was cool seeing them again them facing

526
00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:26,000
their fears was interesting, but it's it's just cool to

527
00:22:26,039 --> 00:22:28,559
get that aspect of just the military going in and

528
00:22:28,599 --> 00:22:31,279
trying to control and deal with this situation.

529
00:22:33,319 --> 00:22:36,400
Speaker 4: Yeah. I I the whole idea of them relying solely

530
00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:42,680
on uh tan Leel what was his name?

531
00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:44,200
Speaker 5: Uh?

532
00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:47,319
Speaker 4: He was the chap with the shard that he dropped

533
00:22:48,079 --> 00:22:48,640
and everything.

534
00:22:49,279 --> 00:22:52,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I thought that was kind of a bold

535
00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:56,160
Uh yeah, Daniel think well his name was spelled the

536
00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:58,160
same as Daniel, but a T instead of a D.

537
00:22:58,839 --> 00:23:02,920
That's Rose is like, was that her nephew, right, nephew, Yeah, nephew.

538
00:23:03,279 --> 00:23:05,119
That's the idea that I guess she gives him that

539
00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:07,000
as some protection because they're gonna use him to go

540
00:23:07,039 --> 00:23:09,440
down there, which was odd because I don't think they

541
00:23:10,279 --> 00:23:12,640
I don't think they needed him, like they got all

542
00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:14,519
the information from his mind, but I guess they just

543
00:23:14,559 --> 00:23:18,680
want him to come along, and he did lose set object,

544
00:23:18,759 --> 00:23:20,319
even though that does help out a character later.

545
00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:22,359
Speaker 3: But yeah, it kind of felt very bold.

546
00:23:22,079 --> 00:23:24,599
Speaker 1: Of them to have him go down and also have

547
00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:27,519
him at many points lead. I feel like you would

548
00:23:27,519 --> 00:23:30,119
have a soldier in front and then him tell you

549
00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:30,480
where to go?

550
00:23:30,599 --> 00:23:32,880
Speaker 2: I mean, I guess yeah, he was leading them. But

551
00:23:33,519 --> 00:23:36,279
it's funny to how that they lost, how like they

552
00:23:36,279 --> 00:23:39,240
got split up somehow too. It feels like they were really.

553
00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:43,759
Speaker 1: Because like all around had been missing for a while

554
00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:46,880
and at one point it was it was Taniel and

555
00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:48,640
it was the guy I can't remember his name, but

556
00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:50,759
he was the guard. He's got like the asshole guard, right,

557
00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:52,599
they'd all be taking this and he's the guy that

558
00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:53,640
made it look like he beat it.

559
00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:57,160
Speaker 3: Will Handlin drops and he's swimming away.

560
00:23:57,240 --> 00:23:59,720
Speaker 1: He's gone with he's having a vision and he's gone

561
00:23:59,799 --> 00:24:02,799
for out five minutes and Liken, the group's broken up,

562
00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:03,440
so see him.

563
00:24:03,519 --> 00:24:04,880
Speaker 3: And then we go back to tangalous guy and he

564
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:07,839
was around. He's like, he's like, Dick, how are.

565
00:24:07,799 --> 00:24:09,759
Speaker 1: On you there? And it's like this guy's been going,

566
00:24:10,079 --> 00:24:11,960
he's been a well and it's not even I know

567
00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,599
he specifically wants him because he's got his shining powers.

568
00:24:14,799 --> 00:24:16,519
But at the same time, aren't you concerned about where

569
00:24:16,519 --> 00:24:18,880
your other people when there's at least three other soldiers

570
00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:20,839
and guards that are just going and missing. So yeah,

571
00:24:20,799 --> 00:24:22,839
I think they should have had like a at least

572
00:24:22,839 --> 00:24:25,640
a rope tied between one another. Their system wasn't great

573
00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:27,359
for this kind of crack team that they were sending

574
00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:27,880
down there.

575
00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:30,640
Speaker 5: So their plan was to go down and start acquiring

576
00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:34,039
the pillars right and then start shoving the pillars closer

577
00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:36,279
to create a smaller perimeter for this thing.

578
00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:39,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess I feel like this was the worst

579
00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:40,359
one to start off with.

580
00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:44,119
Speaker 5: Yeah, this was definitely bad, but it was cool. I'm

581
00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:46,240
going to the Old House and anything like that.

582
00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:50,799
Speaker 4: I like that. But yeah, this was definitely it was brutal.

583
00:24:50,839 --> 00:24:52,599
Speaker 5: It's not well thought out. They could have done a

584
00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:55,759
better job about it, but I'm I like it. I

585
00:24:55,799 --> 00:24:58,720
like seeing the military go into the military versus paranormal.

586
00:24:58,759 --> 00:25:01,160
Situations like this always get it's stoked. And when you

587
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:07,440
deal with like the original it chapter one, not the

588
00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:10,279
original original, but the like on the Scars card, you

589
00:25:10,319 --> 00:25:12,319
got that, and it's just the kids dealing with this thing,

590
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:14,559
and it just seems very small scale. You don't even

591
00:25:14,559 --> 00:25:16,480
feel like the parents are where, Like, no one else

592
00:25:16,559 --> 00:25:17,640
is just present with what's going on.

593
00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:18,279
Speaker 4: It's just the kids.

594
00:25:18,279 --> 00:25:20,039
Speaker 5: And so now we're in this larger world where no

595
00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:22,279
the military is involved in the military has actually seen

596
00:25:22,319 --> 00:25:25,359
action against this thing. That's freaking awesome. I love that.

597
00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:28,559
And with Handlon being in there, and like, actually like

598
00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:30,880
that scene where he doesn't shoot his wife, but it

599
00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:32,960
gets to the point where like the wife starts tripping

600
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:36,319
out and then it's just they didn't shoot her. Classic

601
00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:39,039
he did well after it tripped the freak out, Like,

602
00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:41,599
I mean, would you shoot Emily if Emily turned into

603
00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:42,680
that thing at that point?

604
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:45,240
Speaker 1: Well? Yeah, because they why would Emily be down there?

605
00:25:45,279 --> 00:25:46,759
Why would she just be hanging out on the well?

606
00:25:47,319 --> 00:25:48,640
Speaker 4: Okay, let me rephrase this.

607
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:51,880
Speaker 5: So if you're down there and Emily comes aund Emily

608
00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:53,799
that is still in Emily form saying.

609
00:25:53,559 --> 00:25:55,480
Speaker 4: Help me, help me, you're going to shoot her?

610
00:25:55,559 --> 00:25:55,680
Speaker 1: Then?

611
00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:57,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're going to wait for her to turn into the.

612
00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:01,240
Speaker 1: Dead shopping No why yeah, right in the dome because

613
00:26:01,279 --> 00:26:04,039
they said, don't believe. They don't believe anything you see

614
00:26:04,079 --> 00:26:06,279
down there is Nancy raise fear it's gonna turn against you.

615
00:26:06,319 --> 00:26:06,799
Don't do it.

616
00:26:07,079 --> 00:26:09,599
Speaker 4: So but he wasn't afraid of his wife, was he?

617
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:12,359
Speaker 1: But why would his wife just be walking around in

618
00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:12,720
the well.

619
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:17,519
Speaker 2: Remember Bill kind of has to have that moment with

620
00:26:17,559 --> 00:26:20,680
the with his brother too. In chapter one, he to

621
00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:23,119
shoot him in the head with like the sheep yeah,

622
00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:24,000
cattle gun thing.

623
00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:27,319
Speaker 1: Now your easy counter should be well. Later on, his

624
00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:31,000
actual kid comes around the corner, and that's messed up, right,

625
00:26:31,039 --> 00:26:33,519
But that was an extending circumstances. The kids are also

626
00:26:33,599 --> 00:26:35,559
doing a bunch of stuff, but in reality, you would

627
00:26:35,599 --> 00:26:37,200
not think anyone's there. And that's why he was gonna

628
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,319
shoot this kid. That's why we lost that one guy

629
00:26:39,319 --> 00:26:42,519
who I don't really understand how he got shot. Very

630
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:45,960
awful way to stop a pullet from coming, like just

631
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:48,000
push the gun on the side, pull it up. He

632
00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:51,160
decides to push this full like to a whole U

633
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:53,599
turn in front of the gun to absorb some bold

634
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:56,839
I know there was something where. Okay, you know he's

635
00:26:56,920 --> 00:27:00,200
a struggle and he shot them. So that's the counterpoint of, oh, well, look,

636
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:01,839
if you would have just shot the kid, he would

637
00:27:01,839 --> 00:27:03,440
have been dead. I thought for a second we were

638
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:05,319
gonna go there, but then I forgot that this little

639
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:08,319
kid still has to produce, uh Mike Handlon. But I

640
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:10,039
was kind of hoped, like this sounds bad. I was

641
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:11,920
kind of hoping he's gonna shoot one of the kids

642
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:14,200
because I want there to be like a big I

643
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:15,880
want there to be like because I feel like that

644
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,400
would show how messed up it is down there, right where,

645
00:27:19,079 --> 00:27:21,480
and that would really mess you up because they told you, hey,

646
00:27:21,519 --> 00:27:23,799
no matter what, everything you see down there is not true.

647
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,119
And then there's this kid, and but they they didn't

648
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:26,480
go that.

649
00:27:26,519 --> 00:27:29,880
Speaker 2: Far, so mm hmmm, they very well could have.

650
00:27:30,039 --> 00:27:30,160
Speaker 1: You know.

651
00:27:30,559 --> 00:27:34,000
Speaker 2: I was kind of surprised at how close Pennywise could

652
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:36,640
actually get to that shard thing, like I thought it

653
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:38,680
would be, like, you know, he can get within like

654
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:40,960
inches of it, but then he just can't cross that line.

655
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:42,440
And I'm kind of curious how that works with like

656
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:45,599
the perimeter of it now, because obviously Penwise was like

657
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:48,559
crawling around the tunnels in and around that thing. But

658
00:27:48,599 --> 00:27:50,119
I guess as soon as he gets right up to

659
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:52,359
one directly, but then I don't know. I guess there's

660
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:55,039
like some connection between all the different pieces that are

661
00:27:55,039 --> 00:27:56,720
out there that kind of make that perimeter that we

662
00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:59,599
talked about last week, Taylor. But yeah, I was kind

663
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:01,720
of surprised how close he can get to that thing,

664
00:28:01,799 --> 00:28:03,920
but then it just straight up in visible wall in

665
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:04,920
front of him.

666
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:08,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, I did enjoy seeing him kind of frozen in

667
00:28:08,279 --> 00:28:10,880
the big TV state, Yeah, because they.

668
00:28:10,799 --> 00:28:12,640
Speaker 3: Feel like we always get the because that's always like

669
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:13,279
his last.

670
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:15,799
Speaker 1: Movement right in both it chapter one, chapter two, and

671
00:28:15,839 --> 00:28:17,920
he takes the kids, he kind of grabs and like

672
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:19,000
cuts the black right away.

673
00:28:19,079 --> 00:28:20,599
Speaker 3: So I like that he's kind of frozen.

674
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:23,079
Speaker 1: And first it was sure if he was literally frozen,

675
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:26,119
kind of felt like he was just kind of registering

676
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:28,519
what was going on, like just almost confirming. Is that

677
00:28:28,599 --> 00:28:30,480
because I don't know if he just physically can't cross

678
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:32,400
the line or if he crossed the line, if he

679
00:28:32,519 --> 00:28:34,880
just like like explodes.

680
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:36,200
Speaker 2: Like I don't know, I can't cross it physically.

681
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 1: I agree with you, Yeah, I think so. So I

682
00:28:38,599 --> 00:28:40,559
liked that moment him going back, and I thought the

683
00:28:40,559 --> 00:28:42,079
build up was really good and also we can get

684
00:28:42,119 --> 00:28:44,200
there and that that's what I did, Like I when

685
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:46,559
they found I'll have to what is that kid's name?

686
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:50,039
That was an episode Maddie isn't Maddie. So when he

687
00:28:50,119 --> 00:28:53,160
came back, I enjoyed that because I like, this has

688
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:54,960
to be penny Wise. I was almost like it, this

689
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:58,920
is not penny Wise. This just feels very very easy,

690
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,319
especially when the kid I get it right because they're

691
00:29:01,319 --> 00:29:03,079
talking about you know, he can't go home because his

692
00:29:03,119 --> 00:29:06,039
dad's abusive father. But he was like, oh, I'd rather

693
00:29:06,119 --> 00:29:07,960
go back in that well then go with my dad.

694
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:10,319
And I was like, what you just explained, No way.

695
00:29:10,359 --> 00:29:11,960
You just said you saw a girl down there you

696
00:29:12,039 --> 00:29:14,000
knew had her arm bit off, and you just watch

697
00:29:14,039 --> 00:29:17,880
her die for days, like in the most awful, painful way.

698
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:21,279
He described literal hell in this well, I'd go back

699
00:29:21,319 --> 00:29:23,519
to well anywhere before I go home. So it's okay,

700
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:25,880
this has to be this clown and if it's not,

701
00:29:26,039 --> 00:29:27,359
then it's going to be DGG for me. But I

702
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:29,680
like that. I liked it. He was looking very dishoveled,

703
00:29:29,759 --> 00:29:32,240
very like white, and like he looked pretty much dead right.

704
00:29:32,279 --> 00:29:34,559
Speaker 2: He was looking like Sam Porter freaking bridges. If you

705
00:29:34,599 --> 00:29:36,599
ask me, there you go.

706
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:38,839
Speaker 1: If they do the live action movie, he could play

707
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:41,240
the kid version of him or a flashback. But and

708
00:29:41,359 --> 00:29:43,759
what I really enjoyed this is where the CGI was great.

709
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:48,200
His transformation into Penny Wise was really good. It's like

710
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:50,440
they've spent all the budget on that to be like, okay,

711
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:52,160
we have to make sure you know we got bell

712
00:29:52,279 --> 00:29:52,920
in this is good.

713
00:29:53,119 --> 00:29:55,079
Speaker 3: He just grabs his pull and he's spinning around slowly.

714
00:29:55,079 --> 00:29:56,599
Every time he spins, his head's.

715
00:29:56,319 --> 00:29:58,240
Speaker 1: Like opening more and more. It's the teeth and the

716
00:29:58,279 --> 00:30:01,279
body like transforms. It was really well done, and I

717
00:30:01,279 --> 00:30:03,839
think a very big like great because obviously been waiting

718
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:06,319
for penny Wise, which you did say in the nonsplays.

719
00:30:06,359 --> 00:30:09,599
You're like, oh, we've been waiting to see Bill. But

720
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:11,359
it's okay, we're making out the thumb now people know

721
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:13,519
he had to be coming, but it's just like I

722
00:30:13,559 --> 00:30:15,799
loved the transformation and line, and I thought even the

723
00:30:15,839 --> 00:30:17,039
scene where he's in the well and you.

724
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:19,240
Speaker 3: See the silhouette and he's walking up and he turns

725
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:19,559
in her.

726
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:22,039
Speaker 1: Father and back of the crown the clown, I'm very

727
00:30:22,279 --> 00:30:24,240
I hope that now that they built up to him,

728
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:25,839
I'm not saying he has to be in this whole show,

729
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:28,119
but I hope that we get a lot more good

730
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:30,960
scares and moments with him, because cards still just it

731
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,039
felt like he was just right from the movies. He

732
00:30:33,319 --> 00:30:35,480
felt like he hadn't missed a step, like a Robert

733
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:37,400
England playing Freddy Krueger. It just feels like that character

734
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:39,319
is kind of in his bone. So I'm hoping we

735
00:30:39,319 --> 00:30:40,440
get some more good stuff. But I thought it was

736
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:42,359
a very good reintroduction to him.

737
00:30:42,319 --> 00:30:47,279
Speaker 2: So definitely, yeah, I agreed. Like the him twisting into shape,

738
00:30:47,319 --> 00:30:49,759
that's such a classic Pennywise thing is it's just so weird.

739
00:30:49,799 --> 00:30:52,240
But even that, like earlier on he was when they're

740
00:30:52,279 --> 00:30:54,799
still in that like rooftop or it's not a lighthouse,

741
00:30:54,839 --> 00:30:56,440
what is it that building? I forget what it is,

742
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:58,559
so I think their hideout is in it.

743
00:30:59,079 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 3: I guess something. You're right now a lighthouse, like it's something.

744
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 2: Whatever that tower is. When he was talking about like,

745
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:09,160
oh yeah, I saw penny Wise eating this girl's like

746
00:31:09,279 --> 00:31:11,200
brains out of her skull like a bowl, and that's

747
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:13,839
kind of how his head started opening up first before

748
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:16,559
he fully twisted over. So yeah, that was that was

749
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:19,480
really good. The funny thing because at one point he

750
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,519
like before they went into the well, he was like, oh, yeah,

751
00:31:22,559 --> 00:31:26,240
Pennywise he sleeps during the day and then he's awake

752
00:31:26,319 --> 00:31:28,599
at night, and I was really I was overthinking that

753
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:29,839
so hard, and then it's like, oh yeah, it's just

754
00:31:29,839 --> 00:31:32,279
Pennywise saying random shit. I don't think this is actually

755
00:31:32,359 --> 00:31:34,480
canonically true, but I'm like, I feel like there's so

756
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:36,640
many counterexamples to this. I feel like he's always doing

757
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:39,680
stuff during the day, but I like that, Hey, yeah,

758
00:31:39,799 --> 00:31:41,640
said that as a way to coax them in there.

759
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:43,519
It's that was a good, good trick.

760
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:48,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, what about you, Taylor finally seeing the clown.

761
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, it was fantastic.

762
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:54,799
Speaker 5: I I was apprehensive because I wasn't sure, Like like

763
00:31:54,839 --> 00:31:56,200
when he was coming out of the tent, I thought,

764
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:59,799
this is definitely suspicious. But yeah, those subtle red flags,

765
00:31:59,839 --> 00:32:01,960
like the same as you doing when he's like, oh, pennywise,

766
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:07,440
like he's sharing the eight time. I was just going

767
00:32:07,559 --> 00:32:12,079
through all my I was going through out there.

768
00:32:12,599 --> 00:32:15,279
Speaker 3: You might want to repeat yourself, Taylor. We lost your

769
00:32:15,279 --> 00:32:16,000
for a moment there.

770
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 4: I'm I'm like you, dyling.

771
00:32:21,119 --> 00:32:24,839
Speaker 5: I was going through the uh, the process of trying

772
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:28,319
to recollect everything that you know, him doing things in

773
00:32:28,359 --> 00:32:31,440
the daytime versus like doing things at nighttime. I was

774
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:33,720
just trying to connect those dots and thinking like, uh, no,

775
00:32:33,759 --> 00:32:34,920
he's that's that's a red flag.

776
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 4: And then yeah, him saying.

777
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:38,319
Speaker 5: I'd rather go back on the sewers versus like go

778
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:39,960
back to my dad's like you said, Charles, Like, oh,

779
00:32:40,039 --> 00:32:42,559
that's another weird thing to say as a kid, like,

780
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:45,160
there's those little things, and so when they were going

781
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:49,960
in there, and it's just obviously what convinces you is

782
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:52,839
the fact this kid just starts morphing into the freaking clown.

783
00:32:53,039 --> 00:32:55,200
But that was great, It was really really good. It

784
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:57,880
was freaky and everything like that. So I'm I'm on

785
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:00,640
board for it. And again, I I know kids will

786
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:02,559
be kids. But if you're a kid and you trip

787
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:05,440
and you say wait up, guys, but you stand there

788
00:33:05,519 --> 00:33:08,720
for ten seconds and say wait up, guys, come on,

789
00:33:09,119 --> 00:33:11,720
just run, don't stay weight up, guys, because no one's

790
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:13,519
gonna wait for you. If we were all in that situation,

791
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:15,720
I don't think any of us are waiting. You're all running.

792
00:33:15,759 --> 00:33:17,559
Speaker 1: We're all running for I'm waiting.

793
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:21,119
Speaker 4: You're shot in the head with the first five seconds.

794
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:24,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, because they told me that's a scary thing. They

795
00:33:24,799 --> 00:33:25,920
didn't tell me like that.

796
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:28,440
Speaker 1: They didn't tell me. If they don't give me no

797
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:31,079
preference and they just say, oh, yeah, go down there,

798
00:33:31,119 --> 00:33:32,680
see what's down there, and Emily pops up, then yeah,

799
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:34,160
I'm not sure. But if they say, oh, you see,

800
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:37,319
your worst fear is down there, you know, and you

801
00:33:37,359 --> 00:33:39,920
see Emily, which who is my worst fear. You know

802
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:45,519
so well, but no, and it depends it's wasting because

803
00:33:45,599 --> 00:33:48,720
strengthen numbers, Taylor, if you don't see the numbers, if

804
00:33:48,759 --> 00:33:49,319
you don't say the.

805
00:33:49,319 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 5: Person, you know, I believe in strength and numbers. But

806
00:33:52,519 --> 00:33:54,680
clearly the numbers did not work for the army in

807
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,839
this case. They definitely did not work out for them

808
00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:01,799
because people are disappearing in water and all these other things.

809
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 2: I feel like the kids because they didn't even really

810
00:34:04,279 --> 00:34:06,440
have any weapon or anything, right, Like they were fully

811
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:10,400
banking on drugs. Yeah, yeah, which crazy idea, but they

812
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:14,880
were fully counting on Pennywise just being just slumbery, just

813
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:17,159
sleep mode, full on. Like I guess they really had

814
00:34:17,199 --> 00:34:19,360
no backup plan, but they they really went in there

815
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:22,559
just extremely unprepared. And like the one girl just got

816
00:34:22,599 --> 00:34:25,039
out of the hospital like seven seconds ago. She doesn't

817
00:34:25,039 --> 00:34:27,400
have an eye, so she doesn't have depth perception right now,

818
00:34:27,639 --> 00:34:30,159
and like that just a crazy idea to bring her along.

819
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:31,679
And the fact that she was even allowed to leave

820
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:33,400
the hospital is kind of crazy. I mean, maybe it's

821
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:35,559
been a couple of days since that incident, but it

822
00:34:35,679 --> 00:34:37,800
seemed like, you know, that was her first day after

823
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:38,880
the incident or.

824
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:41,119
Speaker 1: Maybe she snuck out. But I'm off two minds of

825
00:34:41,119 --> 00:34:43,559
that story because I really didn't joy that scene last week,

826
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:46,360
and because you know, need a little karm. This person

827
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:48,760
was being kind of mean to multiple people, especially his

828
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:51,440
friend at first, but I felt that them getting back

829
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:54,400
together way too way too easy. I thought there's gonna

830
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:56,559
be a bit more conversation, like I'm happy was it multiple,

831
00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:59,079
I'm happy they didn't do the whole thing where yeah,

832
00:34:59,119 --> 00:35:01,119
we did bit blame Lily and she is going back

833
00:35:01,159 --> 00:35:03,400
to the asylum where she like, I'm happy it'say, Hey, no,

834
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:05,559
I know it wasn't you. I just covered up that

835
00:35:05,639 --> 00:35:08,199
you were trying to help me. But I wish there's

836
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:09,960
more of a speech for that character. You know what,

837
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:12,159
I really screwed up these past few weeks, Like I

838
00:35:12,199 --> 00:35:13,800
thought these people were my friends, and I found out

839
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:15,239
you can say, they didn't even come visit me in

840
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:17,639
the hospital. Like It's been such a good like and

841
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:19,159
I've liked it for the most part, but it's been

842
00:35:19,159 --> 00:35:21,280
a central part of their show, especially for Lily, and

843
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:23,360
we've all had that in friends groups back in those

844
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:24,320
schools where people.

845
00:35:24,199 --> 00:35:25,440
Speaker 3: Go different ways and whatnot.

846
00:35:25,519 --> 00:35:28,440
Speaker 1: So I thought there was gonna be a little bit

847
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:31,519
more of a you know, reunion there, and it kind

848
00:35:31,519 --> 00:35:33,199
of just like, oh yeah, I didn't tell them at all,

849
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:34,880
Great and you want to go on this venture. Sure,

850
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:37,400
So I kind of wish that happened because now it's

851
00:35:37,679 --> 00:35:39,719
at this point, I don't think there's any reason to

852
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:42,039
have that conversation. They're in a group, they're going to

853
00:35:42,119 --> 00:35:43,800
life or death situation. So I kind of felt that

854
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:48,840
was very just I can't say lazy, because they didn't

855
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:52,719
even do anything just to just non existent parts where

856
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:55,119
the whole show has been this character like last week

857
00:35:55,159 --> 00:35:57,519
she was going to completely embarrass her friend, right, and

858
00:35:57,559 --> 00:36:00,400
I felt she'd even just apologized for that. At this point,

859
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:02,039
Lily didn't even know that was gonna happen, So I

860
00:36:02,079 --> 00:36:04,280
don't know. I was very odd that I liked that

861
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:06,840
they're back together, but odd that there was not much

862
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:10,199
more conversation to it. So that was a hangout for me.

863
00:36:11,599 --> 00:36:14,079
But yeah, she's with the group. You know, all all

864
00:36:14,119 --> 00:36:16,320
the kids made out, except for you know, I think

865
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:18,480
the good revelations to you're seeing all the dead bodies

866
00:36:18,519 --> 00:36:21,360
and whatnot. So now what are we thinking now with anyways?

867
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:23,840
Do we think we are Do you think now the

868
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:25,679
scares that we were getting the show before, when we

869
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:27,280
kind of get like two scares, do you think those

870
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:29,480
are gonna shift to Bill Scar's card. Do you think

871
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:31,519
it's still gonna be small amounts like I've been the finale,

872
00:36:31,599 --> 00:36:32,599
He's gonna be in a lot of that.

873
00:36:32,679 --> 00:36:35,320
Speaker 3: But for was it six and seven?

874
00:36:35,679 --> 00:36:38,960
Speaker 1: What are we thinking whise for screen time or appearances?

875
00:36:39,559 --> 00:36:43,400
Speaker 2: I mean, I think because this episode we had one

876
00:36:43,599 --> 00:36:47,199
like Hallerin's dad through that like dream sequence, and we

877
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:50,760
also had that one cop like in the station when

878
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:54,159
the one like when the bus right situation was happening,

879
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:56,920
And then we also kind of had that hint when

880
00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:00,360
Lily was at that random ass lady's house and then

881
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:02,039
like the husband was coming up and he was drinking

882
00:37:02,039 --> 00:37:04,079
a beer and he was like, where's my mistake? And

883
00:37:04,119 --> 00:37:06,199
I feel like that guy we're leading to, like him

884
00:37:06,639 --> 00:37:09,079
getting some Pennywise effect to him as well, leading up

885
00:37:09,119 --> 00:37:11,400
some like freaky thing that he's going to do. So

886
00:37:11,519 --> 00:37:13,960
I feel like it's not all going to be Pennywise

887
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:15,440
and all scars. God, I think we're just gonna get

888
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:17,719
a lot of more and more of the people of

889
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:20,960
Dairy kind of getting infected and having their weird creepy turns,

890
00:37:21,599 --> 00:37:23,800
whether they're actually those people or if they're just like

891
00:37:24,159 --> 00:37:27,000
Pennywise creations, I think that's what we're gonna get. I

892
00:37:27,039 --> 00:37:29,119
think that's going to really like dial up in these

893
00:37:29,199 --> 00:37:30,199
next few episodes here.

894
00:37:30,519 --> 00:37:35,519
Speaker 5: Okay, well, I think that's where the city event, you know,

895
00:37:35,679 --> 00:37:38,119
chaotic event that happens, is going to come down to Hank.

896
00:37:38,199 --> 00:37:40,920
Because we learned that guy drinking the beer his wife

897
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:43,000
is the one that's sleeping with Hank.

898
00:37:43,119 --> 00:37:43,800
Speaker 4: Right, So you.

899
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 5: I think you're going to get some a whole city

900
00:37:48,519 --> 00:37:51,079
going mad and getting racist and just trying to go

901
00:37:51,119 --> 00:37:53,199
and head hunt this guy and find him, especially now

902
00:37:53,199 --> 00:37:55,880
because you learn, oh, there was something attack the bus,

903
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:58,280
so obviously Pennywise is trying and.

904
00:37:58,199 --> 00:38:00,079
Speaker 2: That one guy just tried to gun him down in

905
00:38:00,159 --> 00:38:03,480
broad daylight as well. So yeah, clearly the town's going crazy.

906
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:05,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was caught off guard when he just had

907
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:08,880
something to attack the process, like something like and then

908
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:10,679
like I'm wondering, I guess it's just the town or

909
00:38:10,679 --> 00:38:13,320
something going on. But yeah, that's why some of the

910
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:16,440
nonsports of that storyline. I like that revealed who the

911
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:19,360
woman was. I'm just wondering if I'm gonna feel satisfied

912
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:23,320
by the end of it. I just there. I just

913
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:26,519
feel I'm hoping next week a few stories get wrapped

914
00:38:26,599 --> 00:38:29,480
up in uh in a good marriage, because I do

915
00:38:29,519 --> 00:38:31,079
feel like there's a lot of characters. And the weird

916
00:38:31,079 --> 00:38:33,519
thing is with this show is we know, if it's successful,

917
00:38:33,559 --> 00:38:34,559
they're gonna get a season two.

918
00:38:34,599 --> 00:38:36,760
Speaker 3: But they said the season two is going.

919
00:38:36,519 --> 00:38:39,400
Speaker 1: Backwards, right, So it's not like, oh, you could leave

920
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:41,719
some stuff dangling and then we'll pick up with it, right,

921
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:43,679
it's the other way, which I am kind of curious.

922
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:43,840
Speaker 5: Now.

923
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:47,119
Speaker 1: You almost feel like, now when I'm watching this, I

924
00:38:47,159 --> 00:38:50,320
feel like, now you'd start from like way twenty three

925
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:53,039
and then fifty sixty whatever the time is right where

926
00:38:53,159 --> 00:38:55,400
it's almost gonna feel weird going backwards, where we have

927
00:38:55,519 --> 00:38:57,880
the Army have people figuring out, and then you go

928
00:38:57,920 --> 00:38:59,840
back twenty seven years, Like, I really hope there's not

929
00:39:00,039 --> 00:39:02,119
in that twenty seven year If we have a season two,

930
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:05,079
it's not the Army discovering it or people of the Army.

931
00:39:05,119 --> 00:39:07,400
And it's just like if each season is a prequel,

932
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:10,360
a prequel, I hope it has its own distinct style

933
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:11,960
where this is Okay, we want to talk about more

934
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:13,880
of the people that live there and Darry and then

935
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:14,840
have this army aspect.

936
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:16,239
Speaker 3: But then if we get the season two, it's gonna

937
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:18,480
be more of a you know, whatever they want to tackle.

938
00:39:18,519 --> 00:39:22,480
Speaker 1: And I also wonder too, I feel for people that

939
00:39:22,599 --> 00:39:25,679
are not educated as far as like us when we

940
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:28,960
read articles and hear stuff. With the whole build up

941
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:31,079
to Penny Wise, I wonder in the season two if

942
00:39:31,079 --> 00:39:32,960
people would deal with that again, Like I feel like

943
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:34,400
in season one you can kind of get rid of

944
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:37,119
it or get away with it because you're reintroducing yourself

945
00:39:37,119 --> 00:39:39,480
back to it. It hasn't been around since twenty nineteen.

946
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:40,920
But if you do the season two, I feel like

947
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:43,760
people would expect him a lot sooner because it's a

948
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:45,920
fall up. So I don't know. I think season two

949
00:39:46,039 --> 00:39:47,960
I'm interested because I like the idea of going back

950
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:50,440
to those really old time periods, but I feel some

951
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:52,840
of the stories kind of paint themselves in the corner.

952
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:54,280
Speaker 3: And then like in some of the stories here, I'm

953
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:55,000
just worried.

954
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:58,639
Speaker 1: Of getting that Disney Plus finale where it's everything's very

955
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:01,079
quick and very one life, and I feel like that

956
00:40:01,079 --> 00:40:03,079
could happen because, like I said, that storyline with Lily

957
00:40:03,079 --> 00:40:05,719
and that girl, the resolution was just oh yeah, you know,

958
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:07,679
I didn't tell him was you and they're best friends again.

959
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:10,519
So it's was very simple. So that is a worry

960
00:40:10,519 --> 00:40:12,920
for we have so many storylines going on at once,

961
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:14,880
you know, because now you have like U, I know,

962
00:40:15,039 --> 00:40:18,400
he she kind of was. But Hanlon's wife has her

963
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:21,800
own side missure. She's actively trying to she's talking to lawyers.

964
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:23,800
Speaker 2: And that side of full on side quest like there's

965
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:24,880
a lot going wrong with them.

966
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:27,480
Speaker 1: Like that's not just as simple. Oh I checked on him.

967
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:29,559
That's she's trying to get them legal representation.

968
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:32,639
Speaker 2: So yeah, at least at least with the with the

969
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:35,599
genre and knowing what happens twenty seven years from now.

970
00:40:35,639 --> 00:40:37,199
Like I guess the easy way out for a lot

971
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:39,039
of that is just killing off a bunch of people.

972
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:42,039
So you can, yes, start doing that next week, I guess,

973
00:40:42,079 --> 00:40:43,880
with more major characters if you want. But I feel

974
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:46,400
like that's how we can wrap things up in a

975
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:48,639
way that maybe isn't wrapped up with a bow, but

976
00:40:48,679 --> 00:40:51,239
it's wrapped up nonetheless in a very horror movie kind

977
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:53,760
of way. Because you're just offing people and normally you

978
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:55,639
don't have like multiple episodes of build up before you

979
00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:57,159
kill them off. Normally, if it's like an hour and

980
00:40:57,199 --> 00:40:59,679
a half long movie, they might die, you know, fifty

981
00:40:59,679 --> 00:41:02,159
minutes or something. But I guess that's just kind of

982
00:41:02,159 --> 00:41:03,679
when you stretch it out, and that's what we'll get.

983
00:41:03,679 --> 00:41:06,280
So maybe that's what we'll be just maybe with next

984
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:08,199
week we'll start killing off a bunch more people. Although

985
00:41:08,199 --> 00:41:09,679
it feels like this would have been the opportunity to

986
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:11,519
kill off a bunch more characters if you wanted to

987
00:41:11,639 --> 00:41:12,920
down in the tunnels.

988
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:14,679
Speaker 3: And even though he's not dead, I would cut.

989
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:16,679
Speaker 1: As much as I like the dick caller and store

990
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:18,800
and the character, I'd actually be kind of fine if

991
00:41:19,119 --> 00:41:20,840
not that we never saw him again. But we didn't

992
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:22,880
see maybe to the finale, and because I feel like

993
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:24,800
he served his purpose. His purpose was to read that

994
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:27,719
guy's mind uses shining and getting down there, right, we

995
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:30,079
know he's not gonna feat penny Wise. I like that

996
00:41:30,119 --> 00:41:32,599
when he was walking the end, looks like he's just

997
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:35,519
on a different planet. He's to shovel these seeing his

998
00:41:35,599 --> 00:41:38,239
grandma get Shaw and his dad's threatening him and again

999
00:41:38,639 --> 00:41:41,159
shout out to twenty seventeen. They did such a good

1000
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:43,960
job of with the smile, the eye and the teeth

1001
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:45,760
because you've mentioned dial in that guy in the prison,

1002
00:41:46,119 --> 00:41:48,480
and then also his whether it's stat or Grandpa.

1003
00:41:48,599 --> 00:41:50,320
Speaker 3: Anytime you know penny Wise around.

1004
00:41:50,159 --> 00:41:51,719
Speaker 1: They just hit that face and it's just like an

1005
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:54,079
iconic Oh, you know, penny Wise is here. But I

1006
00:41:54,159 --> 00:41:56,760
like that it was kind of a we haven't seen

1007
00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:58,280
this in the show yet, but kind of a reference

1008
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:00,800
to the Shining where he's seeing he's a literal person

1009
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:03,119
that just passed right like kind of a lost soul

1010
00:42:03,199 --> 00:42:04,719
sucked there. So it kind of makes sense that when

1011
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:07,119
he is in the Shining, it's like, you know, that's

1012
00:42:07,119 --> 00:42:09,079
some stuff. I don't know if it's happened all the time,

1013
00:42:09,119 --> 00:42:10,800
but I would kind of be fine if we don't

1014
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:13,480
see Dick around for a little bit, because I just

1015
00:42:13,519 --> 00:42:15,880
don't know what else he could he could do everyone,

1016
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:18,880
And because the dad like handling, he knows that penny

1017
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:20,480
Wise is the thing now right, so it's not like

1018
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:21,639
he has to convince the adults.

1019
00:42:21,679 --> 00:42:23,920
Speaker 5: So I don't it felt like a sendoff to be

1020
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:26,440
honest to me too, Yes, they worded his you know,

1021
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:29,320
if anyone could survive it, it's it's Dick calleran and

1022
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:31,400
he just yea, he saunders out of that pipe. So

1023
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:33,199
I think for sure it was a sendoff. I don't

1024
00:42:33,199 --> 00:42:34,840
think we're going to see anymore because he doesn't have

1025
00:42:35,519 --> 00:42:38,719
a purpose anymore, right, and his state of being how

1026
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:42,440
he felt there, it felt like, I don't know, he

1027
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:45,239
felt like a version of himself more relatable to his

1028
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:48,440
version in The Shining I guess much more just kind

1029
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:50,400
of I don't know, like obviously there's a big gap

1030
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:52,400
in a lot of development there, but he just his

1031
00:42:52,599 --> 00:42:56,519
Shining version feels much more like calm and soft spoken and.

1032
00:42:56,559 --> 00:42:58,159
Speaker 1: Just yeah, like that's why I feel like he hasn't

1033
00:42:58,199 --> 00:43:00,199
seen like a dead body like that before. I the

1034
00:43:00,199 --> 00:43:01,840
show is trying to show you that he's seen some stuff,

1035
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:05,960
but he's never literally seen a person just passed walking around,

1036
00:43:06,119 --> 00:43:07,800
you know. And that's where I could seem like on

1037
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:09,960
a bus, out a dairy or something. But even this,

1038
00:43:10,079 --> 00:43:11,480
maybe he's like, I gotta get out of here. There's

1039
00:43:11,519 --> 00:43:14,239
too much. There's too much hot traction going on here,

1040
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:14,519
you know.

1041
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 5: And on top of that, you got the box scenario too.

1042
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:19,519
I don't know how they're going to wrap that up.

1043
00:43:19,519 --> 00:43:21,239
How they're going to tell that kind of a story

1044
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:23,119
if that's going to be done. And I hope they

1045
00:43:23,159 --> 00:43:25,880
don't tackle that in these three episodes. Let's just they

1046
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:28,239
can keep that open, that box open, yeah, and we

1047
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:29,760
can tackle that somewhere else.

1048
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:30,440
Speaker 4: It's fine.

1049
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:32,559
Speaker 5: But I again, that's a big thing that I like

1050
00:43:32,599 --> 00:43:35,039
because it just falls hand in hand with the with

1051
00:43:35,119 --> 00:43:40,960
the Shining and oh why can't I remember the boy's name? Travis, Yes, Danny, Yeah,

1052
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:44,239
just the whole philosophy of you got to keep that box,

1053
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:46,880
you know, close, you got to keep them keep them

1054
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:47,760
bad things in there.

1055
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:48,519
Speaker 4: So I like that.

1056
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:52,840
Speaker 2: I feel like if anything with hallerin Yeah, one of

1057
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:55,400
the interesting parts above the Shining is just like that

1058
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:59,519
kind of creepy but yet really interesting moment in the

1059
00:43:59,519 --> 00:44:02,199
Shining one he's talking with Danny and obviously like the

1060
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:05,000
that's the first time we're seeing like the telepathy going on.

1061
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:07,159
But we haven't seen hal Or and interact with a

1062
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:10,079
child in this show, and it as a franchise is

1063
00:44:10,119 --> 00:44:14,000
a very kid star centric thing, so I feel like

1064
00:44:14,039 --> 00:44:17,760
that's something we could do well to see because yeah,

1065
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:19,320
I think that'd be a fun kind of connection with

1066
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:21,159
The Shining and maybe that would be a good way

1067
00:44:21,159 --> 00:44:23,639
for him to give them, the kids more information or something.

1068
00:44:23,639 --> 00:44:26,039
I don't know how you set that up, because it's

1069
00:44:26,039 --> 00:44:27,639
not like we've been on the trajectory of him like

1070
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:29,199
interacting with these kids in any way.

1071
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:33,199
Speaker 1: But there's one with I think it was last week

1072
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:35,559
when Mike he didn't interact with a kid, but not

1073
00:44:35,639 --> 00:44:39,239
Mike will Cascar. I'm messing up all the handlings. Will's

1074
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:43,199
the main adult, right, Will Handlin is our son. No Leroy, Okay,

1075
00:44:43,199 --> 00:44:46,559
so there's LeRoy's the adult. Will Handlin is the kid.

1076
00:44:46,599 --> 00:44:49,440
And then Mike Hansel he was talking to him about

1077
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:52,119
his son, about him being attacked by something, right, So

1078
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:54,400
not that he's interacted with that kid, but that was

1079
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:56,480
the doorway to him trying to thread going on.

1080
00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:59,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was the thing, like, hey, something happened to him.

1081
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:00,840
Speaker 1: But my whole thing was I kind of thought that

1082
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:02,639
would happen before they went to the well as far

1083
00:45:02,679 --> 00:45:04,679
as like let's talk and figure this out.

1084
00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:04,840
Speaker 5: Now.

1085
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:08,079
Speaker 1: I feel like Leroy he's fully seeing stuff like the kids, right,

1086
00:45:08,199 --> 00:45:10,519
like you know, the wife and all this. So I

1087
00:45:10,599 --> 00:45:12,440
just I don't know, like I think there is a

1088
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:13,840
thread there, but I don't know what is, but like

1089
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:15,760
you said, maybe it's just a gift some information where

1090
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:17,159
he goes, Oh, I know a guy that can help.

1091
00:45:17,159 --> 00:45:19,719
But again I felt like Dick, I don't know if

1092
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:22,280
he's going right back to base anymore, but maybe well,

1093
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:23,840
I don't know, I don't know. For seeing more of them.

1094
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:25,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, it almost like with the amount he's been in

1095
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:28,079
the show and how big that shining element has a

1096
00:45:28,079 --> 00:45:30,039
big been with his character, it almost feels like they're

1097
00:45:31,079 --> 00:45:33,320
building towards like setting up that one of the kids

1098
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:35,480
has the shining as well, and we're gonna get into that.

1099
00:45:35,519 --> 00:45:37,639
But I don't at this point, I don't feel like

1100
00:45:37,679 --> 00:45:39,000
that's where the show is going. I feel like we

1101
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:40,800
would have been tugging on on thread a little bit

1102
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:42,880
more if that was the case. I think it's just him,

1103
00:45:43,159 --> 00:45:44,679
but yeah, like I don't know, I don't know where

1104
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:46,800
the storyline goes from here. For sure.

1105
00:45:47,559 --> 00:45:49,400
Speaker 3: I agree. I definitely thought he was.

1106
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:51,519
Speaker 1: He's in this way more than I thought it was

1107
00:45:51,519 --> 00:45:54,079
gonna be. I thought maybe you might get him in

1108
00:45:54,159 --> 00:45:56,840
it for a little bit and one centric episode, like

1109
00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:59,480
I could have saw that episode last week of him

1110
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:01,960
do in the mind f and getting into him final

1111
00:46:02,039 --> 00:46:04,440
information he does that and then he's on his way.

1112
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:05,880
But I didn't think he was actually gonna be going

1113
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:07,880
down into the well and doing all this stuff. So

1114
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:10,920
I was very surprised that he's been almost like I

1115
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:13,079
think he got interested in episode two. So he's been

1116
00:46:13,079 --> 00:46:15,679
in almost this entire series, and in big scenes and

1117
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:18,119
roles too, not even just always here for a little bit.

1118
00:46:18,159 --> 00:46:20,000
He had that stuff at the bar, he had this,

1119
00:46:20,159 --> 00:46:23,320
he went to the Hamlen's house for dinner, so he's

1120
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:24,639
been all over. So I agree with you, he kind

1121
00:46:24,639 --> 00:46:26,880
of feels now he does need a bigger moment. But

1122
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:29,679
I could also see them just leaving it here. And

1123
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:31,559
same thing with the box. I think you could just

1124
00:46:31,679 --> 00:46:33,320
leave the box along. I think that I don't know

1125
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:35,199
what you can explain in there. I just take it

1126
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:38,239
as like bad stuff, bad memories, you know.

1127
00:46:38,519 --> 00:46:40,280
Speaker 2: I mean, it's the pulp fiction box. It's like the

1128
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:42,599
yellow light coming out of there, so you'll never know.

1129
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:48,360
Speaker 5: Well, yeah, is there a place where let's say penny

1130
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:50,519
Wise wanted to get into that box because there's things

1131
00:46:50,559 --> 00:46:52,039
in there that he could use. And I say that

1132
00:46:52,039 --> 00:46:56,880
because if you look at how they did, oh my god, no,

1133
00:46:57,039 --> 00:46:57,400
I just.

1134
00:46:57,280 --> 00:46:59,559
Speaker 1: Want to see I just want to see no an ai.

1135
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:01,519
I just want to see a cross over the pulp

1136
00:47:01,519 --> 00:47:04,679
fiction characters with penny Wise, Like penny Wise souls in

1137
00:47:04,679 --> 00:47:07,800
that box and you have jewels and I mean Vincent Vega.

1138
00:47:08,039 --> 00:47:10,360
Speaker 2: It's like the same as his eyes, right, like maybe

1139
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:11,320
there is something.

1140
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:17,199
Speaker 5: Yeah, maybe doctor sleep, so you doctor sleep when Danny

1141
00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:20,119
opens up that box back at the Orient Uh, not

1142
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:22,599
the Orient Hotel.

1143
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:24,760
Speaker 1: Express.

1144
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:27,119
Speaker 3: We're just crossing over a bunch of trains.

1145
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:30,679
Speaker 1: That would make sense though that Tom Hanks is definitely

1146
00:47:31,079 --> 00:47:32,239
everyone talks about creepy.

1147
00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:34,920
Speaker 3: He looks he looks like he would be kids like,

1148
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:37,159
but is it?

1149
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:39,239
Speaker 5: I called the Orient Express and there Orient and Polar

1150
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:40,760
Express are very two different trains.

1151
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:42,280
Speaker 3: What's Orient Express from.

1152
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:45,760
Speaker 5: The Orient Express is uh, it's the that's a real train.

1153
00:47:46,199 --> 00:47:48,920
Speaker 2: That's the that's the murder mystery movie. That just sucked

1154
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:51,039
total as thank you.

1155
00:47:51,119 --> 00:47:53,960
Speaker 1: That's what I was thinking. Okay, dang, I thought Pollar

1156
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:56,599
EXPRESSSS makes sense. Always say Tom Hanks looks creepy, so

1157
00:47:56,599 --> 00:47:58,960
I mentioned that it's taking the form of Tom Hanks

1158
00:47:59,039 --> 00:48:01,440
just trying to get kids. Hey, hey, get on this train,

1159
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:01,960
you know.

1160
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:06,880
Speaker 5: But yeah, so you have Danny unlocking his box or

1161
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:09,760
whatever at the Overlook Hotel and they all those spirits

1162
00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:12,840
just go to fucking town on the Evil Chick. So

1163
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:17,280
maybe that's something too, where maybe Dick had a whole

1164
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:19,679
bunch of things locked up in his box and penny

1165
00:48:19,679 --> 00:48:21,480
Wise wanted to open it, and then I don't know,

1166
00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:26,679
maybe it's sentence, maybe it's just it's all fear. So

1167
00:48:26,679 --> 00:48:28,639
maybe penny Wise is able to absorb it to keep

1168
00:48:28,639 --> 00:48:31,159
that box open, and maybe it's just another tool ands

1169
00:48:31,159 --> 00:48:31,639
tool bag.

1170
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:35,920
Speaker 1: But maybe then then it feels like it literally is.

1171
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:38,480
Then it feels like the show becomes more penny Wise

1172
00:48:38,599 --> 00:48:41,599
versus Dick holleran right, and not the kids.

1173
00:48:41,639 --> 00:48:43,679
Speaker 3: So that's where you're kind of an in past.

1174
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:45,360
Speaker 2: He's like as big of a character as the kids

1175
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:45,960
at this point.

1176
00:48:46,119 --> 00:48:51,639
Speaker 1: He is, Yeah he is, So maybe I know, I

1177
00:48:51,679 --> 00:48:54,159
think we have a lot of interesting threads to go down,

1178
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:57,760
and I have enjoyed the show. I just wonder if

1179
00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:02,000
the resolution of these threads is going to be satisfying

1180
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at the end, you know, so, and I feel like

1181
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I'm iffy on that part. So mm hm.

1182
00:49:09,039 --> 00:49:12,840
Speaker 2: Had we been introduced to the affair partner like lady

1183
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that kind of comes to save the day, because the

1184
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way she got introduced in this Okay, Taylor's not and

1185
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:18,400
said yes, Travis is saying no.

1186
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Speaker 1: Oh wait, like it's what do you mean? Like did

1187
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we know this was the lady he was sleeping with.

1188
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Speaker 2: Have we seen her this actress before?

1189
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Speaker 4: Yes?

1190
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Speaker 1: That I well, we saw her in this episode, right,

1191
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And then.

1192
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Speaker 5: She was she's been in the past, that she was

1193
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in an episode last week's I think, and a few

1194
00:49:33,679 --> 00:49:34,239
before that.

1195
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Speaker 1: Okay, I'm interacting with a kid. But yes, so okay,

1196
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so I don't I didn't.

1197
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Speaker 2: Remember her, and Tori say, have a bad memory. I

1198
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:43,599
do not remember her at all. What what?

1199
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Speaker 5: What would she do these other episodes she spent she

1200
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:48,280
had to go to Juniper Hill for a night at

1201
00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:50,719
Lily and then the next day she was talking to

1202
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:53,519
this same woman because they had formed a bond. They

1203
00:49:53,519 --> 00:49:55,960
had disclosed this whole thing, like when her mom went

1204
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:57,360
to pick up the lad at Juniper Hill.

1205
00:49:57,639 --> 00:50:00,599
Speaker 4: The nurse talking to the lady. Yeah she was the nurse. Okay,

1206
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they were talking.

1207
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Speaker 2: She looks very different in her non nurse fit. Okay,

1208
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:05,159
that makes sense.

1209
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:07,960
Speaker 5: This is their third conversation that Lily and the nurse

1210
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have had where they've talked because they talked at a

1211
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:12,320
restaurant before Jesus.

1212
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Speaker 2: So, yeah, yeah, I assume it was that lady, but like,

1213
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:16,519
she looked very different to me, but I don't know.

1214
00:50:16,599 --> 00:50:18,519
My eyes suck, I guess, and so thank you for

1215
00:50:18,559 --> 00:50:18,960
feeling me.

1216
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Speaker 1: I didn't recognize her either till I was like who

1217
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:23,599
is this? I was like, okay, you know. I was

1218
00:50:23,639 --> 00:50:28,519
glad they revealed who this lady was. But yeah, anything else,

1219
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:35,119
I think that was all for me. Heah, yeah, I

1220
00:50:35,159 --> 00:50:40,400
think that's all I got. It's all the juice, solid juice. Well, Leja,

1221
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and we'll be back next week. We'll see what's going

1222
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to happen, See what happens when these people get as well,

1223
00:50:45,079 --> 00:50:47,280
see how much Pennywise is in, see if Dix will

1224
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:49,440
just walk in the earth. And yeah, we'll be back

1225
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and it will not be boring.

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Speaker 2: Good night,