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Speaker 4: All right, so everyone was wondering, like, Okay, BYU didn't make.

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Speaker 3: It to the Sweet sixteen. Okay, they made it to

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the Sweet sixteen last year. You know what's the key

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to success? What's the key to get to the sweet

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sixteen and make that a consistent, bar consistent goal and

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a realistic goal for the future. I think Spencer Lytton

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pontificated on this earlier today on BA Sports Nation.

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Speaker 4: Let's see what he had to say about this.

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Speaker 5: Jason, remember when BYU won nine consecutive games to close

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out the twenty twenty four to twenty twenty five regular

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season plus the Big Twelve Tournament. They won nine consecutive games,

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including at Arizona, at Iowa State, beat Iowa State in

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the Big Twelve Tournament, worked up to a six seed,

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then got through VCU and worked Wisconsin scored ninety points

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You know what was the common theme there?

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Speaker 6: BYU had shooters all over the floor. They had seven guys,

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seven that shot thirty five percent or better from the

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three point line. Richie Saunders at forty three percent, Trevin

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Nell just a hair under that mowit mag You want

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to talk about a critical piece. The Bruce Bowen of

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BYU basketball that year in the corner play defense made three.

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Speaker 5: He shot thirty nine percent. Dallen Hall shot over thirty

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five percent. Dawson Baker shot thirty eight percent from the

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three point line. What's crazy is Yegor Gellman as good

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of a three point shoot in the NBA as he

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he in that stretch run he did. He did he

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found a shot bound his shot late in the season.

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Speaker 3: Enough specialized skill sets that complimented each other.

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Speaker 4: I think is what we're getting at here.

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Speaker 3: You need complimentary skill sets that accent and support each other.

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Speaker 4: Some guys got to be catching shoot guys. Some guys

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a good team. The get old, stay old mentality. We're

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that continuity of care. They get old, stay old, still

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enduring in this new nil transferportal age. But Ronnie, your

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what you can not only get back to the tournament

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the term. I think this was just an unfortunate down

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year ban I think for BAU basketball because of the

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injuries and because of maybe not scouting the team the

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right way or guy's not stepping up. It's two fold, right,

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Speaker 7: So there's there's different things. So I think that's the

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you know, Spencer qualifies these numbers. You know, when you

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of college basketball experience. Now, whether that means you bring

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in a record and you let him develop, you bring

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college basketball to be at to shoot the three and

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feet away from the basket bin and they can be

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physical and they're fouling, and you're yelling at the ref

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Speaker 7: The ref's not gonna de officiating's not gonna change.

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Speaker 4: You need to adjust.

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Speaker 7: Always say this has been when you're playing in a game,

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for not calling something. Get over that, adjust to what

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he's not calling, and let's go win the game. If

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you just want to keep pushing your narrative like they

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hold all the power, the zebras man they got everything,

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so hopefully that is what they look at in the

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offseason is okay, where would the deficiencies what you need

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to do because when you look at a twenty four

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don't lie in Therefore, the wins.

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Speaker 9: Backed it up.

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Speaker 7: So hopefully they get there. I think Kevin Young's a

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Speaker 3: Look, I'm always optimistic about this Cougar Cougar basketball team,

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and I hope they can just stay healthy next year.

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the injury issues. Address that the semi contact non contact injuries,

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to see if you can diagnose and.

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Speaker 4: Treat that to your best.

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Speaker 3: Ability is always your availability when it comes to team sports. Now,

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speaking of team sports, the best team sport that has

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a lot of attrition but not I mean knock on

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Wood hasn't had a whole lot of attrition over the

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last couple of years since doctor Skyler Main Holby Claws

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and Ryan Phillis and Brett Mortsen and the crew just

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have been able to oversee the health and strength of

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this BAYU College football team. We're gonna catch up with

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tight end room. You're not gonna you're not gonna want

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to miss that. I think it had five oh five

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So stay tuned, don't go anywhere. But he was miked

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a lot of tenure faces, and some good talent, no

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doubt about it. Let's listen in as Kevin Gilbright coaches

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Speaker 4: Let's go. Let's go.

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Speaker 9: Tight ends.

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Speaker 4: There we go, tight ends, There we go.

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Speaker 8: Elbows are tight, my thumbs are up right, my eyes

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are up right. And now from here, I'm pounding my

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Speaker 9: I'm not leading them, not pressing. I'm lifting and pounding

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Speaker 4: Set done.

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Speaker 9: Good work, go work and work good.

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Speaker 4: Get the clans of the ground, call.

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Speaker 8: Good, good with the eyes on a good jacob, Hey,

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Speaker 4: Jump cut the hands up, hands all right.

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Speaker 9: Right.

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Speaker 3: But at the same time you're at the you know,

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Speaker 4: You know what. It's gonna be curated on the back end.

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Speaker 4: You know with the mic?

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Speaker 3: You know, oh man, I got to be a little

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tight end SOFPT last year. I think he's up to stuff,

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he's up to speed, he'll be fine and a.

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Speaker 4: Really good blocker.

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Speaker 3: The Need name is is a tight end name in

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Cougar football history. So you know Spencer Deed was a

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former BYU Great so he comes from that lineage. Really

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good football family, really good football players, et cetera. So

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that's what you have. So he's got two jobs right now.

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Bringing you know, the kind of the implementation of the

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skill set and the individual talents and abilities of Walker

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lines in Rochester Apaga obviously four star talents. Now just

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got to get the football like you and the schematics

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up to speed, because we've seen over the years the

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transfer portal gives us great talent, but the players aren't

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always able and capable of getting up to speed. In

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order to make an impact. It's extremely beneficial to have

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Roger and Walker and Springball so they can get up

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to speed, they can have an entire offseason.

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Speaker 4: It still blows my mind.

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Speaker 3: That Bear was able to integrate so seamlessly in so

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little time without Springball under his belt. He only had

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the summer essentially and found his way as the starter

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for this b Cougar football team. Just pretty monumental performance

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on that front. And I know Matt Mitchell, the former

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quarterbacks coach for BUYU now at Colorado State, aided and

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supported in that. But you got almost matrix in that knowledge.

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And so that's a high priority for him because he's

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got to get the most out of his tight end

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room and there's a lot of pressure on him to

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get these tight ends up to speed. But if they're

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not up to speed. I do like Kean Need. I

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think nol Moyaki is a good football player as well.

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a touchdown pass. So that's that the most recent update

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with the tight end room. We'll go to break. Please

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don't go anywhere. Oh we got one more clip. What's

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the next quip? What have you got for us?

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Speaker 7: This is the clip about Bruce Banch excuse me, Bruce.

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Speaker 3: Brand Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, let's talk some more hoop

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U b y U five star commit Bruce Branch the

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third was telling a story.

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Speaker 4: I mean this was.

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Speaker 3: Uh. He's got like a social media team following him around,

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does he not?

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Speaker 4: Yes, he does on a percent Think podcast.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, like his own documentary series, Like Rob has his

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own that follows him as well.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so he's got his own YouTube docu series. That's

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what this is from b A five star commit Bruce

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Speaker 4: Uh told a little story about how the Rock.

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Speaker 3: Was chanting his name, uh behind his commitment to b

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YU for the Curas.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, when they changed my name, I was trying to

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hide a smile.

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Speaker 9: I'll bush you a little bit.

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Speaker 10: I was asked my Mom, what was the BYU sign?

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So I hit the sign and they just all went crazy,

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you know what. I was like, Yeah, this is this

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is home. I see what's the visits over? It just

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just feel like I was to leave a home, so

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can't wait to go back. I remember the week before

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actually made the announcement.

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Speaker 4: Uh, I had a conversation with my mom. I was like,

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it's b Yu.

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Speaker 10: Let's play as simple. I just I just thought her,

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I has remember going answer. I said, Mom has has

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got to be b Yu and Cheerie.

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Speaker 3: Mom agrees, and whatever Mom says goes. He's Bruce Brandt's

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The third said that it was BYU uh and uh

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Speaker 4: So what does it take to be a great tight

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end to be wa you football history?

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Speaker 3: We'll try to get to Byron rex on the line

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number ninety five to six foot two and forty pounds

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out a two hundred forty pounds out of Bellflower, California,

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came to Brigham balled out. He was a great basketball

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player as well in high school and earned letters and track.

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Was All Conference two years in football and basketball, All

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City and football and basketball, Senior year Athlete of the

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Year at Bellflower High School. In his BYU football career,

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eighty six receiving receptions. Excuse me, he played in twenty

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four games, started I believe twenty two of those, and

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then he had I think one two hundred and twenty

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three receiving yards, seven touchdowns.

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Speaker 4: Became kind of an iconic figure in.

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Speaker 3: The early nineties receiving passes from Ty Devmer and others

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along the way. So really good football player that knows

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a thing or two about ball, and he's created some

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great BYU football players that have come through the program.

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Isaac the Elk Rex one of the best tight ends

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in BAU football history, as well as Preston Rex, who

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has been a safety, defensive back and has now converted

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over to running back.

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Speaker 4: Let's welcome in the former BA great.

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Speaker 3: Number ninety five on the football field, but number one

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in our hearts. Today we got Byron Rex on the line.

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Byron how that are you, buddy, Ben?

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Speaker 9: I'm doing great.

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Speaker 3: How are you doing doing fantastic? Man, It's it's spring ball, man.

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Forget March madness. I'm all about Camp Killani twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 9: No, for sure, it's never not football season. Even during

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March manage. They get about four days out of the year.

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The rest is ours for football, so that only no.

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Speaker 4: Doubt about it. You were a hooper though growing Byron, Like, was.

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Speaker 3: It tough for you to kind of transition from you know,

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I know you had a love for hoops, Like when

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did you know you were a football guy rather than

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a basketball guy.

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Speaker 9: Well, you're every tight end and Dennis Fitt and I

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play basketball a couple times a week together. Every tight

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end is just a frustrated basketball player. I'm just telling

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you right now, all of it. I played Matt Bushman

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was supposed to play with us last night, but Matt

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couldn't make it down. But Matt plays with us. Obviously,

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Dennis and I play together a lot. But we're just

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all frustrated basketball players. You happen to play football, and

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so the crossover is amazing. The cross training of a

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sport is perfect. So if you want to play receiver, well,

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really any position. But if you want to play receiver,

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a tight end, definitely play basketball. Chase Roberts will tell

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you the same thing. Great Hooper as well. So we

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played with a lot of the guys and they're all

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good basketball players.

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Speaker 3: So who's the best former BYU football player at basketball

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that you've played with?

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Speaker 9: Myself first, and then Fuka would probably be second. Yes,

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so we played together. Zach's really good, Isaac can play,

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Dennis obviously can play. So people can't play. Don't let

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them tell you anything different. Is Dylan and Austin Colley

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are not basketball players, Okay, really good, very clear, really

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athletes jump out of the gym. No, Austin fancies himself

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with Hooper, but not as good as he thinks he

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actually is, which which is what makes him great. He

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thinks he's better than he actually is.

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Speaker 3: A really I thought Austin was was decent. But yeah,

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but Dennis is a good player. Dennis is a good

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basketball Well, he's got some silky smooth action to him.

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Speaker 9: He's very good. Yeah, he's very good. And he always

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he's guarding all the ex college basketball guys when we play.

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He's like, I'm not Garden. We play with a guy

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named Jakho. We play a lot. I think he played it.

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I know stay or somewhere, but really good young is

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still young, like just finish playing like two or three

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years ago. I make Dennis guard him every time we play,

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because Dennis only one can handle him. So Dennis is

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a really, really good player. But don't tell him I

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told you that, and I'll send you video to prove

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that I'm better than him. I got it, I got

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it on tape.

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Speaker 3: Well, I remember how good Isaac was in his heyday two.

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You're not getting an he loved Isaac. Yeah, he was

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a good hooper.

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Speaker 9: No, I think it's different because I thought if Isaac

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was going to play, and he raised him to play

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basketball just in case, you know, if it wasn't a

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football thing, he could shoot it better than any of

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the guys that I'm telling you. Now. His ankle has

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not done him any favors. But Isaac's the best three

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point shooter. I'm talking little guys, big guys. Anything. Zach's okay,

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but Isaac can shoot it like nobody's business. So he's

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the best shooter. And at six five sixty six, you know,

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if he were to concentrate on the sport. Had I

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known you've been that tall, we might have spent more

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time doing it, but football was an easier route for us.

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So anyway, But yeah, I love the sport of basketball, love.

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Speaker 4: It, love it.

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Speaker 9: Man.

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Speaker 4: Well, were you disappointed in the one and done?

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Speaker 3: Were your expectations a little bit higher or were you

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kind of liking that, like pessimistic mode when they entered

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the NCAA tournament kind of like setting yourself up like

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you didn't want to be two disappointed for like, oh,

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they're probably gonna be one and done.

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Speaker 9: No, it's great about that is. I was so optimistic

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the whole season, right, and then one of our guys

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gets hurt, and then I was so pessimistic. And then

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right and we would forget. I'm like, I'm back on forward.

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I'm in the sweet sixteen on heart alone. And then

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as soon as Texas won, I was like, uh, oh,

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this big dude is going to give us truck problems,

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right because we're not super long. We're very athletic, but

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we weren't super long. And I'm like, this guy's going

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to give us issues. And I was more worried about

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our point guard around the rim being able to finish

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with that big inside guard in the rim. So that

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was my pessimistic side that kind of came out, and

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that kind of played the fruition and then you know,

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AJ kind of got tired, which I get, you know

473
00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:46,319
what I mean, like, how do you not get tired?

474
00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:50,359
You was carrying us, But yeah, you know, as soon

475
00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:52,839
as our leader went down, it was going to be

476
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a real tough road to hope, no.

477
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Speaker 4: Doubt about it.

478
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Speaker 3: Byron Reg's former bucket Getter former b YU. Great time

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Speaker 4: No?

486
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Speaker 9: But I'm doing a different thing. First of all, Odeon,

487
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more compliments on that suit than I've gotten in years,

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493
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494
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495
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496
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497
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501
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502
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Speaker 4: Hey, what's been your opinion on Camp Kilani?

503
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:08,000
Speaker 3: What have you been hearing thus far about how Camp

504
00:24:08,079 --> 00:24:11,559
Killani's going in twenty twenty six springball.

505
00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:16,880
Speaker 9: Yeah, I've had a few discussions with guys around the program,

506
00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:20,799
a couple of coaches, so I'm optimistic obviously, you know,

507
00:24:21,759 --> 00:24:24,920
with Preston's position, you know, LJ not going right, guess

508
00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:27,599
Preston some more reps, so you know, I like that

509
00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:30,799
the young guys or people that maybe aren't at familiar

510
00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:33,559
didn't get as many reps with you know, Bear and

511
00:24:33,599 --> 00:24:36,319
some of the other quarterbacks are getting that opportunity. I

512
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:39,559
don't think we're who we're going to be. I went

513
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to the first scrimmage, which I thought was great. Kilani

514
00:24:42,759 --> 00:24:46,319
kept the ones and twos up, meaning no tackling to

515
00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:48,960
the ground. Not live, but you know, guys end up

516
00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:51,319
on the ground because that's football, and guys end up

517
00:24:51,319 --> 00:24:54,160
a little bit banged up. But I thought everyone moved

518
00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:57,799
pretty well. I was looking forward to seeing Saliapaga right

519
00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:01,680
the tight end. Yeah, her lions moved great, you know,

520
00:25:01,759 --> 00:25:04,519
from a tight end perspective, and had a good scrimmage.

521
00:25:04,519 --> 00:25:07,880
Actually had a clutch touchdown for him in the scrimmage.

522
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And then I think Bear looks great. Right, he's losing

523
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:16,759
some weight. I saw Baron Preston came down to Orange County.

524
00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:20,279
I don't know Midgell January sometime, and I was like, oh, okay,

525
00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:22,880
Bear hasn't been doing much here for last month or

526
00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:26,519
so with that ankle. You could tell. But we were

527
00:25:26,559 --> 00:25:29,119
talking to his mom. She's awesome, and she's like, yeah,

528
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:31,240
they want him down to two thirty five. And he

529
00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:34,119
looks like he's getting close to where that's where his

530
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:36,200
weight is. And obviously he could probably clutch weight, but

531
00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:41,519
I thought you looked good. The receivers are unproven. I

532
00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:45,960
thought Tay looked especially fiery and good and competitive. The

533
00:25:46,039 --> 00:25:49,079
other guys, I mean, if they looked apart at six

534
00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:52,559
six and six five, you know you you you could

535
00:25:52,599 --> 00:25:55,559
be six five or six six, But you got to

536
00:25:55,599 --> 00:25:57,440
play like your six ten, you know what I'm saying, Like,

537
00:25:57,480 --> 00:25:59,279
you got to just go off. You can't play like

538
00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:03,119
your five ten. So we'll see how that goes. That's

539
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:05,960
from an offensive perspective. Defense I wasn't paying as much

540
00:26:06,039 --> 00:26:11,440
attention to, although I know coach Pop is going to

541
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:13,319
get the most out of those guys on defense. I'm

542
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:17,880
super excited for the tweaks that he'll make to the defense.

543
00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:21,039
So all in all, I'm super optimistic on what we got.

544
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, what what do you think Preston brings to the

545
00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:28,640
running back room and his skill set because b YU

546
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:31,920
obviously looking for you know, depth there. He got playing

547
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:37,480
time last year and looked good in those in those moments,

548
00:26:37,799 --> 00:26:41,720
looks pretty scatty quick. He had some injury issues last

549
00:26:41,799 --> 00:26:43,640
year that kind of derailed. I think he was running

550
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:48,039
with the the ones and the two's and fall camp.

551
00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:50,680
Then he had the injury, worked his way back into

552
00:26:50,759 --> 00:26:52,720
the lineup, et cetera. But what type of skill set

553
00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:54,480
does he bring when he's fully healthy?

554
00:26:54,519 --> 00:26:55,000
Speaker 4: Would you say?

555
00:26:56,559 --> 00:27:00,480
Speaker 9: Yeah, good question, man, best ability is a vailed ability.

556
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:04,200
President's heard that a million times, So we got to

557
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:08,559
stay healthy there. That's probably one thing that he has

558
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:12,400
to work on. He certainly is a change of pace guy.

559
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:16,759
I think Lj's patients, like I have an appreciation for

560
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:20,480
the game. I hadn't had an appreciation for the actual

561
00:27:20,559 --> 00:27:24,039
running back position that I got last year, right, and

562
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:29,880
watching LJ. His patience is phenomenal. Actually, it's beautiful thing

563
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:33,000
to watch. He has a good burst, but his patience

564
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:36,759
and knowing when the burst makes them even faster than

565
00:27:36,799 --> 00:27:40,400
he probably really is, you know, just lining up on

566
00:27:40,519 --> 00:27:43,519
a forty. So Preston's certainly got to work on that.

567
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:46,799
He does like he could catch the ball, you know,

568
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:49,960
like a receiver. In fact, that goes with that question.

569
00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:51,880
He had a couple of good catches this week, and

570
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:54,640
you know he give you all that stuff. So I

571
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:57,319
think he brings a change of pace to the backfield.

572
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He has to be able to blow backer, right if

573
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:03,799
you're going to be in there and we're going pass pro, like,

574
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:05,160
you got to stand up to a backer, and I

575
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:06,920
thought he did a really good job of that last

576
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:10,559
year for someone that's two hundred pounds, right, you know,

577
00:28:10,599 --> 00:28:12,519
it's much easier when you're two twenty five or some

578
00:28:12,559 --> 00:28:14,920
of the other guys. So there are definitely things to

579
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:18,519
work on, and he's in no way satisfied with either

580
00:28:18,559 --> 00:28:20,799
what happened last year or his role, so he wants

581
00:28:20,839 --> 00:28:22,880
to expand that a little bit. But I think working

582
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:26,200
on his patience as a runner, making sure he's solid

583
00:28:26,279 --> 00:28:29,720
in the past pro game, knowing his assignments. I think

584
00:28:29,839 --> 00:28:33,680
consistency was the biggest issue, and that stands the reason

585
00:28:33,759 --> 00:28:37,200
he's never lined lined up in the backfield, you know,

586
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:40,839
ever in his whole life except for to come out

587
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:44,640
in motion. So being consistent because he had flashes, no doubt,

588
00:28:44,759 --> 00:28:48,640
Utah Arizona played a ton against Iowa State and then

589
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:50,680
here comes Texas Tech, you know, the best defense in

590
00:28:50,759 --> 00:28:53,000
the country, and then exposed some of the things that

591
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:55,440
he wasn't as consistent as you need to be with.

592
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But he's working on it. I think he's going to

593
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be okay.

594
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Speaker 3: Yeah, No, He's got great talent, great football IQ, great ability.

595
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:04,680
I can't wait to watch him continue to compete in

596
00:29:04,759 --> 00:29:07,279
that running back room. We've been talking a lot about

597
00:29:07,279 --> 00:29:11,480
twelve personnel today and even during Camp Koalani with Roger

598
00:29:11,519 --> 00:29:14,359
sali Apaga Walker Lions. Kia needs in the mix to

599
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:18,839
really good inline blocking tight end with some skill sets there.

600
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:21,240
There's a few other guys that are making their way

601
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:24,640
through the depth chart, et cetera. But what would you say, like,

602
00:29:24,759 --> 00:29:27,759
are are some of the qualities of like a great

603
00:29:27,839 --> 00:29:30,519
tight end and are we going to see a lot

604
00:29:30,599 --> 00:29:32,599
more twelve personnel this season?

605
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Speaker 9: I think with the inexperience a wide receiver at this moment,

606
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I think initially you might see a lot of it,

607
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you know what I mean? And even though Saliapaga and

608
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,680
Lions haven't been in our program, they're gonna have to

609
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:50,119
pick it up quick. And that'll be the hardest part,

610
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:52,240
right because Aaron's not going to put up with not

611
00:29:52,359 --> 00:29:55,000
knowing your assignment that that part doesn't fly. I don't

612
00:29:55,039 --> 00:29:57,000
you know, I don't care how talented you are. You

613
00:29:57,079 --> 00:29:58,680
got to know what you're doing there. So if they

614
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:02,640
can get that part down, that might be our best personnel,

615
00:30:02,799 --> 00:30:05,759
especially with LJ coming back of our offensive line jell

616
00:30:05,799 --> 00:30:08,240
just the way it should. But I mean, versatility is

617
00:30:08,279 --> 00:30:10,279
the name of the game. And I think Walker and

618
00:30:10,519 --> 00:30:15,279
Roger can do like everything, you know, So you got

619
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:18,079
to be able to block somebody, obviously, got to be

620
00:30:18,119 --> 00:30:20,880
able to you know, get down field, stretch the field

621
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:24,119
a little bit, patrol the middle, obviously, catch everything. So

622
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:26,720
there's a lot that goes into playing at tight end.

623
00:30:26,799 --> 00:30:28,079
And if you think about it, they got to know

624
00:30:28,119 --> 00:30:30,160
all the offensive line assignments and this is why I

625
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:32,319
talk about the mental part of it. And they have

626
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:36,400
to know all the wide receiver assignments from a passing game, right,

627
00:30:36,799 --> 00:30:39,279
So sometimes if you're an offensive lineman and like, hey

628
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:41,119
is a runner pass you know, And I'm not gonna

629
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:43,200
simplfy it that easy, but you know what I'm you

630
00:30:43,279 --> 00:30:46,640
know what I mean. But if you're actually, you know,

631
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:49,480
a tight end, you have to know both the pass

632
00:30:49,519 --> 00:30:51,839
game and the run game, and that part is usually

633
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:56,720
the hardest adjustment. But I'm sure Aaron and coach you

634
00:30:56,799 --> 00:30:59,920
will get those guys straight. But I love twelve personnel,

635
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:03,799
the versatility over the years and Dallen and Isaac and

636
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:05,759
you know it was gonna be Matt and Isaac there

637
00:31:05,799 --> 00:31:07,920
for a minute soil Matt went down and I go

638
00:31:08,039 --> 00:31:10,880
way back to you know, when Chad Lewis and he

639
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:13,720
twol Emilia were doing it at the highest of highest levels,

640
00:31:13,799 --> 00:31:16,279
you know, so there's some talent there. I hope they

641
00:31:16,319 --> 00:31:18,119
can take advantage of it, which I'm sure they will.

642
00:31:18,559 --> 00:31:21,759
Speaker 3: Who's your favorite dynamic twelve personnel duo? And b what

643
00:31:21,839 --> 00:31:24,720
you football isturing that tight end row? You can't pick yourself, Okay,

644
00:31:26,559 --> 00:31:29,000
you know you can't do that. But outside of yourself,

645
00:31:29,039 --> 00:31:32,000
I know you're you're number one. But outside of yourself,

646
00:31:32,039 --> 00:31:33,079
who is it and why?

647
00:31:34,599 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 9: Well, I mean it's super simple to me. It's he

648
00:31:37,279 --> 00:31:41,440
Tula in Chad. Yeah, and I went all pro Chad

649
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:43,559
was and he Tula was a twelve year NFL guy.

650
00:31:43,599 --> 00:31:45,359
I mean, yeah, I have to say much more than that.

651
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:48,240
Before he Tulas and Chad will tell you the same thing.

652
00:31:48,279 --> 00:31:52,039
Before he Tula's injury, he was definitely a top two

653
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:54,599
round pick. And that's after coming out back from his

654
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:57,559
mission that injury. I think it was even uncomparable. The

655
00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:00,319
wax championship that he had to when he out his

656
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:04,119
knee was the like one of the saddest things. And

657
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:06,759
you know, I watched Isaac in the coliseum blow out

658
00:32:06,759 --> 00:32:08,640
his ankle, you know what I mean. So I see

659
00:32:08,759 --> 00:32:11,200
the sad one, but he two was his way up there.

660
00:32:11,799 --> 00:32:13,960
But those I'm biased. I love both those guys. They

661
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,359
both I played, you know, they were right behind me.

662
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:19,200
Chad was right right after I came in, and I

663
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:21,000
think he's one of the greatest men on earth. And

664
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:23,359
the two is one of my favorite people of all time,

665
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:26,920
and we played together before his mission. So I'm certainly biased,

666
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:30,519
but I think probably uh, you know, longevity in the

667
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:32,799
game proves that I'm probably right with those two.

668
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, It's it's true like that one. I mean, look,

669
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:38,799
I was a part of the Harlean Coats era. They

670
00:32:39,039 --> 00:32:42,599
they had their time in the NFL and Andrew George

671
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:43,680
Dennis Pitta era.

672
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Speaker 4: That was really good one as well.

673
00:32:46,119 --> 00:32:49,799
Speaker 3: Really, you know what I mean, Like and so, uh

674
00:32:50,119 --> 00:32:52,119
you know that those were great, But you look at

675
00:32:52,119 --> 00:32:55,599
the NFL productivity and it's hard to argue with the

676
00:32:55,799 --> 00:32:57,319
Chad Lewisy two lamely combo.

677
00:32:58,519 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 9: Yeah, and there had been great ones and for a

678
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:05,440
while there you could go back to the late seventies, right,

679
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:09,680
and you could talk about the Brown with the miracle

680
00:33:09,799 --> 00:33:12,920
catch right in the Holiday Bowl, then you're Gordon Hudson

681
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:15,319
and then you're David Mills and then you know, you

682
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:17,960
just go and then you know, I squeeze in there somehow,

683
00:33:18,119 --> 00:33:21,799
and then Christmas before me, and like you just go

684
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:25,720
down and it mirrors weirdly and not weirdly, not coincidentally,

685
00:33:26,119 --> 00:33:29,079
but it bears the quarterback success right along with it.

686
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:30,880
It's just like you don't have to you don't have

687
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:34,240
to go far right back to Harlean, doesn't take Max

688
00:33:34,359 --> 00:33:37,279
to Dennis. Like really, that's no surprise, you know what

689
00:33:37,359 --> 00:33:40,240
I mean? A Zach has Isaac reads the nation in

690
00:33:40,359 --> 00:33:43,079
touchdowns a year. I mean, what you know, his last

691
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:44,839
year before he goes to the NFL, and you know

692
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:48,319
it's the second round, Like it's real. It's a real,

693
00:33:48,799 --> 00:33:51,759
like definitive line. When you had a great tight end.

694
00:33:52,079 --> 00:33:54,440
The quarterbacks were always great. If you wig you right,

695
00:33:54,799 --> 00:33:57,160
you can put the chicken before the egg or however

696
00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:58,720
you want to do it. I don't know which ones which,

697
00:33:58,759 --> 00:34:01,440
but they were both mirrors each other all the way

698
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:02,359
in Bay history.

699
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Speaker 4: No, you're spot on.

700
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Speaker 3: I mean they always coincided and like you get to

701
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:11,519
ten and eleven twelve wins in almost every single one

702
00:34:11,559 --> 00:34:14,079
of those seasons when you have if you have a

703
00:34:14,159 --> 00:34:17,239
great quarter at an NFL professional quarterback and you get

704
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:21,000
an NFL professional tight end, you're right there, you know,

705
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:23,559
getting ten wins. If you got two tight ends that

706
00:34:23,639 --> 00:34:26,440
are that good or they're like borderline NFL guys with

707
00:34:26,559 --> 00:34:29,880
a great quarterback, you're winning eleven games. You're winning ten games.

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That's what it looks like as you go down the list.

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You mentioned Gordon Hudson obviously, I mean Todd Christiansen. I

710
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know he was kind of like a fullback type as well,

711
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but you know, ended up being a tight end. Chris Smith.

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You mentioned him in Tulameae. Matt Bushman. That's maybe a

713
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bit of an outlier, but he was an NFL tight end.

714
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But just didn't you know, he didn't have his senior year.

715
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Remember he got injured in twenty twenty, so it would

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have been I think it would have been Bushman and

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Isaac that year that that would have been. That would

718
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have been a really good duo between Isaac and Matt Bushman.

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I know, Dallan Holker is a young pup came in

720
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and did some good things though too.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, no, it was that If you remember they

722
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went to Hawaii and for the bowl game. I can't

723
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remember who they played, but it was Isaac and Matt.

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And you know, at the time, Coach Clark, the tennant

725
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:24,599
coach and Aaron were like, hey, wait watch that duo

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next year.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, off you go.

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Speaker 9: And you know, I'll never forget. I get a call

729
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:33,519
on a Tuesday or Wednesday and Isaacson tears and I'm like,

730
00:35:34,039 --> 00:35:36,280
I thought, I thought something happened to Isaac. I'm like, okay,

731
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what happened. He's like, yeah, Matt went down. I'm like what.

732
00:35:40,159 --> 00:35:42,960
We couldn't believe it. You know, mad Ha gone down.

733
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So but mattles Right now, MAT's playing basketball with us.

734
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He's such a good guy and it's good to have

735
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him and his wife down here, and like, you know,

736
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he's a happy dude, and I just I love that guy.

737
00:35:53,679 --> 00:35:56,639
He was. He's one of Isaac's best friends. So we

738
00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:59,239
always appreciate what Matt did for the Rex family.

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Speaker 4: You kind of consider Neil power as a flex tight

740
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end because I do.

741
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Speaker 9: He's too. He's a better receiver than you think.

742
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 3: Man, I hate to like, you know, no, no, I mean, look,

743
00:36:11,559 --> 00:36:14,159
he had one hundred and twenty three receive he's six

744
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:17,360
three and a half and two hundred and twenty pounds.

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Speaker 4: I mean that's not a wide receiver.

746
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:22,639
Speaker 9: No, but he wasn't playing into twenty though.

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00:36:22,679 --> 00:36:26,039
Speaker 4: He's like, oh, are you sure? Are you sure?

748
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:29,800
Speaker 9: I'm pretty sure. Hey, Neil probably fattened up about He's

749
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:31,199
a Laker fan like the rest of us, so he

750
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:33,760
probably fattened up after the Lakers won the twenty twenty

751
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:36,039
championship or something like that. But no, I think he

752
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:38,800
I like like Neil. I love the way Neil is

753
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:41,760
too smooth for me as a receiver, Like Neil is

754
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:43,679
underrated as a receiver.

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00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 4: No, no, no, I get it. But he was the

756
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:47,800
He was a big bodied wide receiver.

757
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:51,239
Speaker 3: He would stock block, he would crack, he would run

758
00:36:51,679 --> 00:36:55,039
a lot of those tight end style routes from the flex.

759
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:58,960
Speaker 9: Yeah, but Dallan, then you gotta put Dallen Holker in

760
00:36:59,039 --> 00:37:00,800
the same sentence if.

761
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:03,320
Speaker 4: You No, I agree, That's what I'm saying. That's what

762
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:06,920
I'm saying. Like, I don't know, man, he's a hybrid.

763
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:10,280
Speaker 3: He's a hybrid wide receiver, tight end. He's a flex

764
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:14,519
for me, like Johnny Harlean. If you're gonna say Johnny

765
00:37:14,559 --> 00:37:16,760
Harlean was a tight end. You gotta say Neil Powell

766
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:17,400
was a tight end.

767
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:24,639
Speaker 9: That's the way they played it. Man, right, Robert coach,

768
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:26,960
And I was not missing around with an in line block.

769
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:28,800
And he's like, go catch up football out.

770
00:37:28,679 --> 00:37:31,360
Speaker 3: There, he said, Johnny, we're gonna get We're gonna iso

771
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:34,400
you on the week's side, flexed out one on one

772
00:37:34,559 --> 00:37:37,960
with whoever they put out there against Jen You're gonna win.

773
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:40,280
If it's a corner, we're gonna fifty to fifty over

774
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:43,599
the top. If it's someone like, you know, big or slow,

775
00:37:43,679 --> 00:37:46,039
we're gonna throw a double move in here. And you know,

776
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:48,960
I mean Johnny, Johnny was more of a receiver.

777
00:37:50,559 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 9: No, for sure, that part I agree with, right. And

778
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:56,400
so I'm not ready to move Neil too far in

779
00:37:57,039 --> 00:38:00,639
and I'm not ready to see Neil far out, you

780
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:02,599
know what I mean. So I'm just like, there is

781
00:38:02,679 --> 00:38:04,880
that kind of spot. But hey, if you're not lining

782
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:07,760
up against Texas A and M. It was a top

783
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:10,440
you know, fifteen team in the nation in the Holiday

784
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:13,440
Bowl against you know, Quinton Coreott, who was the first

785
00:38:13,519 --> 00:38:16,320
round pick of the Indianapolis Colts, And you're a freaking

786
00:38:16,639 --> 00:38:19,400
tight end, you know, see me for details on that

787
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:22,280
in the second quarter, and I got a hard time

788
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:24,639
calling you a tight end. Now, I'm not saying you're

789
00:38:24,639 --> 00:38:26,840
gonna do a good job, because I certainly did not

790
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:29,039
do a good job of that. But I could certainly

791
00:38:29,079 --> 00:38:32,039
get in someone's way. Speaking to basketball, I could box

792
00:38:32,119 --> 00:38:34,199
the guy out, if you know what I mean, Facebard,

793
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:38,159
box the guy out. But I wasn't mowing anybody over.

794
00:38:38,599 --> 00:38:40,559
But if you're not lining up with your hand in

795
00:38:40,639 --> 00:38:44,679
the dirt and at least sometime now, hey, if you're

796
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:47,039
tight in the NFL, you want to you want as

797
00:38:47,079 --> 00:38:49,119
many two point stances as you can get because that's

798
00:38:49,119 --> 00:38:51,119
where the money's at. Ause you put your hand in

799
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:53,239
during the NFL and they say you no money, you

800
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:53,840
know what I mean.

801
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Speaker 4: So they're a lot it, you know I just said.

802
00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:59,079
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm looking at your height, weight, and the

803
00:38:59,119 --> 00:39:00,880
way you ran routes kind of round me a little

804
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:04,000
bran keathy, more bran keathy than you were, like a

805
00:39:04,079 --> 00:39:04,679
true in line.

806
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 4: Now I'm gonna say you couldn't block.

807
00:39:06,039 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 3: I'm just saying like you had a little bit of

808
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:10,639
bran keathy to you there running around you a smooth operator.

809
00:39:12,079 --> 00:39:14,360
Speaker 9: No, I would agree with that. I was certainly a

810
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:16,840
better pass catcher than I was ever a blocker. But

811
00:39:17,639 --> 00:39:21,599
like Preston, like Preston, like, hey, oh wow, the Rex

812
00:39:21,679 --> 00:39:24,119
kid's a little undersize as I was at tight end.

813
00:39:24,199 --> 00:39:27,519
But wait, hold on, he's hold his own blocking what's

814
00:39:27,559 --> 00:39:30,199
going on here. So it's a part of being the toughness.

815
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:32,800
But again, if you're not doing that at least sometime now,

816
00:39:33,199 --> 00:39:35,239
Coach Show will tell you. Right, we ran a lot

817
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:38,239
of draw trap and I'm scooping the backside, which is

818
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:41,000
not the hardest block that's ever happened. I'm not, you know,

819
00:39:41,559 --> 00:39:44,599
singleing a defensive end, you know in you know, on

820
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:47,360
power move, so you know, they they set me up

821
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:50,599
for some success. But I'm certainly you got to be

822
00:39:50,639 --> 00:39:52,440
able to get in someone's way and hold your ground.

823
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:55,039
And again I'm not suggesting I was very good at it,

824
00:39:55,159 --> 00:39:58,000
but I just appreciate a guy who could do both

825
00:39:58,079 --> 00:40:00,840
of those things really well. And and that's why you too,

826
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:04,079
La me Lee will freak you out. And you know

827
00:40:04,159 --> 00:40:07,400
what the comp to Saliapaga is the too lame Meite.

828
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Just so you know, from what I've seen on tape

829
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:12,480
and what I watched to him, that's his comp which

830
00:40:12,639 --> 00:40:14,719
is one of the highest comps you can give a

831
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:18,639
tight end in BAU history because Etula could do it

832
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:22,360
all in every single way, including single at d N

833
00:40:23,079 --> 00:40:26,239
and you know, a five to seven tech guy and

834
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:28,480
hold his own at the line of scrimmage and probably

835
00:40:28,599 --> 00:40:30,719
move it. That's how special that dude was.

836
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Speaker 3: I'm excited, man, Byron, appreciate you. Appreciate you hopping off

837
00:40:37,199 --> 00:40:39,800
for a little keeping up with the cougars. Uh, we'll

838
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:41,480
catch up again so soon. Thanks for talking to some

839
00:40:41,599 --> 00:40:43,440
ball with me today, laying some knowledge on us.

840
00:40:44,639 --> 00:40:46,360
Speaker 9: You're the best. I always love toggling you.

841
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:46,559
Speaker 8: Bet.

842
00:40:46,639 --> 00:40:47,679
Speaker 9: I'll see you in a couple of weeks.

843
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:49,840
Speaker 4: All right, all right, man, see you soon. Uh.

844
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:53,559
Speaker 3: That's Byron Rex, Ladies and gentlemen, former b YU great

845
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tight end.

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