Speaker 1: When your old career gives you lemons throwing some ice
mix in some vodka.
Speaker 2: We call it a podcast from.
Speaker 1: The Mac of All Trade Studio in Fairport and driven
by Victor Chrysler Dots jeep Ram. It's Billified, the Bill
Moran Podcast.
Speaker 2: Well, hello and welcome. Thank you for getting your pun on.
Thanks for telling a friend. We're spreading the word. We're
spreading the word. Oh, I say it all the time.
I'll say it again. Our knee jerk reaction, our knee
jerk reaction to any situation is usually the one you go, dang,
I wish I didn't do that. I wish I didn't
do that.
Speaker 3: The irrational mind.
Speaker 4: Billy, Hi, Yeah, I guess.
Speaker 2: I mean I watched a lot a lot of things
today I'm one with my own kid, and uh just
I need a drink.
Speaker 3: But that's why Kevin's shocking.
Speaker 2: What do you mean shocking? What do you mean shocking?
I don't always need a drink? You know you always
wanted I do. I came in here the other night.
Uh no, I did.
Speaker 4: I had to.
Speaker 2: I had two guinness in here and I worked. It
was great. It was fucking awesome. It was one of
the greatest my.
Speaker 4: Words, it means he turned on the fucking nixt game
and I didn't.
Speaker 2: I watched the next game. Last night, I fell asleep
feeling like a seventeen point cushion. Was nice, They're gonna win,
it's at home, blah blah blah, and I go. I
woke up today. I woke up to I don't know
what I I don't know what I felt. I woke
up on the couch to the post game with shot going, yeah,
really the other du no, one's all that coming.
Speaker 4: It's like one of the big we did.
Speaker 2: It's nineteen ninety five. It's very similar to the nineteen
ninety five when and I remember all those you.
Speaker 3: Like because your knee jack drik reaction, there's just the
greatest collapse. It's like, well do you not remember history?
Speaker 2: Well beat him up to what the weird part was.
It's similar, not the same, but similar to what the
Knicks did to the Celtics to get to this point.
So I, yeah, but I did. But to your point,
I didn't fall asleep eating.
Speaker 4: No eating this time?
Speaker 2: Was I eating? You ready for cheatos?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 2: Not cheetos? Even worse, even worse, I thought, because I
have a fifteen year old son living with me, that
I would go to BJ's and buy cereal. So I
thought I would buy cereal that he would like. I thought, no,
not cracking, No Lucky Charms. So now, because I hate
wasting food, I hate it.
Speaker 4: So I ate.
Speaker 2: Maybe two or three bowls of Lucky ch other Arms
with chocolate almond milk as my softener, and I had
such a headache that it was like a hangover.
Speaker 3: Oh that sugar man.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's terrible.
Speaker 3: It's like the worst terrible thing you could eat is.
Speaker 4: All right, fuck you? And yes I know.
Speaker 2: And by the way, this is a guy who studied
for a blood test harder than he did for his SAT.
I crammed, crammed, and Buddy, shush, past, didn't buy the
skin of your teeth.
Speaker 3: Just Past.
Speaker 2: I know you're gonna be fine. You're absolutely fine. You
look good, You're gonna be fine. I'm just saying the
knee jerk action.
Speaker 4: But who do we replace him with? Who gets the
who gets the spot? Doug or Mark?
Speaker 2: Neither?
Speaker 3: That's how memorable I am.
Speaker 2: Neither. No, No, we'd have we'd have to like it
has to go up to the rafters. It doesn't it
for a little while.
Speaker 4: I need the first time that chair was off the
floor in months.
Speaker 2: You do sit low? I do you sit low whenever
you do that microphone? Anytime I have a guest and
I'm doing a one on one and I like him
to sit over there because it's a better, uh line
of sight for me, that microphone will slowly drip down.
So now they're like way back here, and I'm always like,
get it, and I try to tighten and we do everything.
I don't know what you did. It never does that
for you, but it does it.
Speaker 4: For everybody else.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 4: Billy, don't worry about it. You know what.
Speaker 2: It's your magic touch. I'm glad you're here. That's fine.
Speaker 3: I appreciate it.
Speaker 2: But you know what, if he does die, but we
do need a succession. Here was Tyler available. I'm teazing,
you're not going to die. Well, we're all going to die, yes,
I know, but I mean, you're you're fine. Danny's been
trying to, you know, push through some stuff.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm doing all right. I'm doing great.
Speaker 4: Grandmother's not when you get healthy, oh real, he's.
Speaker 3: Got to do today that she's going into hospice. Old Yeah,
but still, yeah, I know.
Speaker 2: You know, we all can go.
Speaker 4: Ah, it's a great run. Yeah, you know, I don't
know if people Well.
Speaker 3: That's the hard part. That's the hard part.
Speaker 2: Was it like at least for the first eighty eight years, I.
Speaker 3: Think for the first six well, I don't know. Like
I love my grandmother dearly, but she she became a bitter,
embittered woman after her divorce and then for my grandfather,
and then over the years there were little tells and
then the family kind of got split over a divorced
situation and it kind of ruined everything. Like she lost
a lot of grandchildren in that divorce, and so not
her divorce or her husband, her daughter's divorce to my uncle,
and so it really like made things tough for all
of us. So, but I mean, I always got along
well with my grandmother. She loved me. I loved her dearly.
I couldn't go see her last time I was in
town because my wife was sick. You can't bring somebody
who's sick into a nursing home with a wife a
dot with you know, I.
Speaker 4: Get a fucking immune system. You'll fucked.
Speaker 3: She was on oxygen the mask. We we saw how
well that works.
Speaker 2: Isn't it? Bill Hicks bit, why not take the old
people and make them stunk people and we'll actually shoot
them at it instead of, you know whatever, put them
in the car that gets grassed.
Speaker 5: Anything.
Speaker 4: At what point when you get old, can you start
getting better? Because I'm getting to that point where I
want to start getting better. But if you're getting there.
Speaker 3: You're off.
Speaker 2: Now Hang on a second, because Danny brings something up.
Danny just talked about his grandmother being ninety eight years
old and that he's not sure it was a good run, right,
not sure it was a good run. I see a lady,
I open TikTok. I'm on the toilet, open TikTok. What happens?
I get a woman who's got a very New York accent,
and she said, I'm ninety nine years old, a couple
months away from my hundredth birthday of August. And her
point was people ask me what's my secret? And she goes,
you want to know what my secret is? I always
look at things. I'm optimistic. I try to stay happy.
Pens no, she said, I try to stay happy. She
got and she went on about the number of people
that she knows who bitch about you know, the weather
or the and she's talking about think of simple things
that old people will get mad at, sending.
Speaker 4: The food back.
Speaker 2: It's cold as well, all right, but you got the food,
enjoy the food, and you got nice companies. So what
you know? And that was her point in big deal.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, and.
Speaker 2: That that's my thing is like all this stress is
what I mean. Look, Jim Ursay was the owner of
the cults. Yes, I know he had some mental health things.
He had talked about it. Yes he was, but it
was incredibly generous. He was extreme, very very wealthy guy,
owner of the Indianapolis Cults. A little eccentric, a little crazy,
maybe partied. I think there was cocaine involved and stuff.
I think there was. Talking wise, he's kind of my
kind of guy. But he died at sixty five years old.
Speaker 3: After the owner's meetings, Like he had to take a
nap but never woke up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, right after that, he didn't die.
Speaker 3: I did to vote against the Tousch push and then
take a nap.
Speaker 2: Tousch Push made it through.
Speaker 4: By the way, I think Jerry Jones had him killed.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry I shouldn't laugh at them, but he could
have who knows, But I mean that was a rugged
looking dude for sixty five.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know in today's.
Speaker 3: David Well I saw sixty five. Was that he died?
It was like sixty five.
Speaker 2: Right he looked.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: It's hard to pin an age on him, to be
honest with you, because I couldn't.
Speaker 4: Now bumps the owner of the ravens up to the
to the worst looking owner. That guy looks like a
fucking strip club owner.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: He looks like dumb and dumber, does he not? He
looks like a mob strip club owner. Yeah, but that
that weird haircut. You're so fucking rich, Hire someone to
make you look better. Get a stylist, get somebody puldn't you?
Speaker 4: Maybe he likes to look like the old Guido. He doesn't,
but he looks I think he looks Jerry Jones won't
fuck with.
Speaker 2: Him, No, he won't. Maybe not probably not all this rambling,
I'm all, we're all over the place.
Speaker 3: But urse was a very giving person and live life
to the fullest.
Speaker 2: And yes he did.
Speaker 3: He was one of those people who just like he
did whatever. M he's like whatever. Like I think he
forced Peyton Manning out of Indianapolis. To be honest with you,
I think that.
Speaker 2: Peyton can't blame.
Speaker 3: I think he had too much power in the organization,
and finally, I gotta I gotta take my team back.
So he fired Bill Pollon and told Peyton listened. We
kept you, Pa, but we kept you on the hurt.
We kept you on the roster all season long. You
knew you weren't going to play, but you had to
have that roster spot, didn't you. I can't do this anymore.
We got to move on. Well, and he ends up
drafted a kid who was supposed to be the future
of the NFL, and then, yeah, I hurt my shoulder.
I quick m.
Speaker 2: I always feel bad for Andrew Luck. I think Andrew
Luck it's like they did nothing to protect him. He
got just clobbered.
Speaker 3: Well or he hired his weightlifting buddy to be his
general manager.
Speaker 2: Yeah right, but they didn't get any It's like Danny,
they didn't protect that.
Speaker 3: He didn't hurt playing football though. That's the secret, that's
the dirty little secret.
Speaker 2: Whatever it is.
Speaker 3: He was snowboarding.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but still, I mean, I know he just was
getting killed, and I go, maybe he saved his life.
And now he's what is he the GM of Stanford
or something?
Speaker 3: Yeah, he could be.
Speaker 4: I think they're putting.
Speaker 2: GM's at the college level now, so to speak, and
I think he is doing that.
Speaker 3: You're basically in charge of food raising and bringing.
Speaker 2: In money for the right right, because you gotta care
all that.
Speaker 3: WO is the guy money money venture right now. Sorry,
we're all over the place. I apologize, you know, that's right.
Speaker 2: It's usually I figured when you were coming in, I'm like,
I don't even worry about it.
Speaker 3: Was fine, I got topics, belly.
Speaker 2: Uh. But back to the knee jerk reaction thing. I
would just tell you to take a moment, because you
make that thing and then then you got to live
with the consequences. And sometimes you can just go right
back to that moment you go one way or the other.
I often think of like back to the future, right
in the what happened the first time Biff beats up McFly?
What happens when he goes back in the future McFly is,
you know, between a rock and a hard place, turns
around and punches Biff knocks him out, and everything has
changed from that moment because you've got confidence, You've got Yeah,
you start to shatter your confidence. I watch somebody today
just worried about their job and all this stuff, and
it's all because you did one thing. You said one thing.
That's all you know, and maybe if you just held
it back, it's easier than done.
Speaker 3: You got to work on that now. So when the
home comes, ready to not react. Take a deep breath.
Speaker 2: HBO hard knocks coming to uh Pittsford, Pittsford for the
Buffalo Bills training camp.
Speaker 3: I oh, it's the Bills. I thought it was, say
chat Fisher.
Speaker 2: I am already getting uh up, huh hit up?
Speaker 3: Hey you think could help me?
Speaker 2: I got one person. I am definitely going to the
mat for for sure. I'm a big fan Kevin yep,
and I'm gonna do everything I can to make sure
Kevin gets it. But I am going to do this
from one person. Uh but I had five total? Of course,
you did five total. I My phone is on do
not disturb I get back in the car this afternoon,
and you had five message Rochester.
Speaker 3: You're so pathetic.
Speaker 4: No, no, Danny, why do you do that?
Speaker 3: Why do I do it? Because it's the truth.
Speaker 4: No, it's not the truth.
Speaker 3: You're not going to be on television, So what to
see if if you were cameras, if you.
Speaker 4: Were in the dream.
Speaker 2: Well, our friend Alex who used to be an intern
for our radio show and now is a producer of
reality all of us, I'm gonna have We're gonna have
her on. I don't know if she's there now. We're
gonna have her on to talk about what to expect
in a sense, what to expect because what happened, you know,
the number of cameras, the access to things, to the
to be in a car.
Speaker 3: It's going to be on lockdown. As far as the players,
I think they're going to open it up for autographs
because they want to give the the pr spin, Hey
we're awesome, we'll great people. Well they're doing, guys, But
I think internally it's gonna be lockdown in terms of
media and stuff. I think it's gonna be even harder
to get interviews and whatnot because now it's like we
got hard knocks. We don't need you guys.
Speaker 4: Greg said, the price went up exponentially. Of course, you
know I was.
Speaker 2: I was debating whether or not to bother Greg tonight
to talk about hard Knocks, and I thought, well, why
don't we go with a different perspective. Someone who's pre
shows like that, what goes into it and how hard
is that?
Speaker 4: But the money will be worth it for him when
him and Jen become the Jordan and Bill Belichick of
Hard Knocks.
Speaker 3: I could see Liv Scribner like doing the whole thing.
Greg Connors is a local attorney. He's been a Bills
fan for fifty years. In the next corner back, you.
Speaker 2: Know, And why did I see that with Jordan Hudson
something like she was trying to Oh, she was trying
to have ownership and saying the content if they were
doing I thought originally they were doing hard Knock.
Speaker 3: Hardocks was supposed to be the un guitar heels. Yeah,
thanks Jordan.
Speaker 4: I don't know that she drove it away.
Speaker 3: I know she drove it away. That's what basically the
lif you connect the dots. She drove it away. Let
me they walked away from her.
Speaker 4: There's no chance they would have walked away from her.
They would have want I would have wanted that ship show.
Yeah that I I don't.
Speaker 3: Know why didn't they Why don't they aren't they still there?
Speaker 4: Who knows what happened? It could have been something pulled out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, somebody pulled out because of her. Maybe somebody pulled
out because of Jordan Hudson.
Speaker 2: No, no one pulled out because Jordan Hudson wouldn't be here.
So when they pulled out, Uh, why do.
Speaker 6: You get so upset with That's like being fair and
honest when rods have no place in fucking no, that's
Heirsday's daughter shouldn't even take over the team, just give
it to Greg.
Speaker 3: They Greg have to root against himself.
Speaker 2: The talk about when you say, like basically like Rochester's
small town, and everybody would be excited if their team
were on hard not to and they had an opportunity to.
Speaker 3: Jimmy Fallon shows up, they have to shut down Fairport.
When Jared Jeter came to High Fall, to shut down High.
Speaker 2: Fall, Jimmy Fallon goes anywhere, they have to shut it down.
I'm dead serious. It's been Nashville. I've seen it. I
saw it in Nashville where he would jump on stage
and people were clamoring to get in there, and you can't.
It just happens. It just happens to be famous. But
when it happens in our town on every not just
you everybody go like, we're this poor pathetic throws a
morsel of entertainment something act.
Speaker 4: That's how everybody everywhere acts right, just but hurt. Nobody
ever wants to go to fucking Silver Creek.
Speaker 3: Nobody does want to go to Silver Creek. It's a
long of the thru Way. Nobody's starting dying to get
the hell out of there.
Speaker 2: But there's not the Uh what about the comedy museum?
That's not far from you, right, James? How far is James?
Speaker 3: Sound about? But an hour south?
Speaker 2: An hour south?
Speaker 3: Yeah, you take root sixty.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh so it's an hour. That's that's fair enough?
Way I I uh no, I I think definitely if
something like hard knocks.
Speaker 4: But I mean, isn't it cool when Jimmy fallon.
Speaker 2: I liked watching the people get excited. I liked watching
the people standing back, and you like watching the people.
Speaker 4: Hey, hey, I want to scra.
Speaker 3: I know all right.
Speaker 2: That was embarrassing.
Speaker 4: That was embarrassing that he's.
Speaker 3: The one that he's the one that betches.
Speaker 4: We never get nice things, but when we get nice things,
the benches.
Speaker 3: We got nice Yeah, what are you doing? What a
I bitched about that time?
Speaker 2: You do you are turning into that guy you are.
Oh my god, you are, and you're gonna you can't
be better if I can't be better.
Speaker 3: To find nice things? Like what what like? What is
it like? Because like big concers don't come here. Yeah
they don't.
Speaker 4: It sucks. Oh yeah, but we get.
Speaker 2: There are things that we get.
Speaker 3: Here's the thing. Every time something happens here, everybody goes, Okay,
what is the point. Don't you want people to go?
Speaker 4: That's how it works.
Speaker 2: What is wrong with you?
Speaker 3: Everybody goes, hey, you go a Lilac festival last weekend.
Speaker 4: You know what. I'm gonna make sure Danny gets fucking
blacklisted from Kim No. I don't want to correct. I
don't want Danny. I don't want Danny black to go.
Speaker 2: I want Danny there. I want him to see I
would go to not.
Speaker 3: Go for hard knocks. We're going to watch the Bills
practice if I if I decide go, that's even worse.
Speaker 4: It's interesting you're watching practice.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you kind of like I've only gone like
once a year.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I used to actually cover the team and write about
the team. I used to be there on the sidelines.
I still do kind of technically cover the team.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I find it very funny that, but I would
like to just don't.
Speaker 3: I just don't understand. He break it down.
Speaker 2: I think we have to make Danny's summer bucket list
or Danny's summer.
Speaker 4: Fucket list, like Willy go not go. I think that's something.
Speaker 2: I'm going to work on the Danny bucket fucket list
and then but we'll have to find ways. You have
me stuff I want to do though, No, no, no,
no no no no no no no.
Speaker 4: I think we're going to determine whether we think you
would do it or not.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Things that are coming up, events that will be around
places that Danny would go or not go.
Speaker 3: Like Okay, here's an example. Here's two examples. I would
love to see the Killers, yes, or I would love
to see uh oh the Black Keys at I'm not
paid six hundred dollars for it?
Speaker 2: Well, why why would you pay six hundred that's the
price for the Killers? Did you see that?
Speaker 3: Did you see the map when you go to c
MAC they have the map or where the tickets are,
so everybody bought the tickets that were cheap, like in
the areas, like, but nobody wants to buy the expensive
seats which are in front of the band, because the
prices are just ridiculous, Like, who's spending three hundred dollars
for one ticket?
Speaker 2: You go the day of Yeah, that's that's exactly what
I was thinking. That was exactly.
Speaker 4: Which a lot of you get a long seat because
you're not going to see sit anyways.
Speaker 3: What's the point that lets you stay home if you're
going a lawn?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 7: Wait, wait a second, Wow, how can you, as a
musician and an appreciator of the art of music, how
can you those words even leave your mouth?
Speaker 3: Because you can't. You're on the you're on the blanket,
on the grass.
Speaker 4: It's before you get a dark hands out.
Speaker 3: Daddy, what is my wife's not giving me that?
Speaker 4: He's living?
Speaker 2: Go to the grand live you're living what goes on
in that smart head? But what goes on in that
smart her dark?
Speaker 3: I appreciate that, Clark.
Speaker 4: What are you trying to see that?
Speaker 3: You're going to a band? Right, you already have their music.
You could hear it because it's an auditory thing, right, Yeah,
you hear music. Now, if you want to see the
band perform, you watch the band perform. But if you
can't see the band perform that. What's the point spending
two dollars you go watch a band you can't see?
Speaker 2: Hang On, am I am?
Speaker 4: I are you hearing me? No? I am.
Speaker 2: We're all hearing you, and I'm going to give you
my we are hearing you. But my thing would be
I wanted to see the Rolling Stones. I sat at
the tippy top of a stadium. I passed out for
portion the show because I stupidly over drank and I
shouldn't have with my brother, which I'm still embarrassed.
Speaker 3: This show have been black ass, but the.
Speaker 4: Point of going.
Speaker 2: I didn't care where I sat The Stones, hang On,
hang On?
Speaker 4: But why because no?
Speaker 2: Hang on? It's the vibe, It's the collective vibe, the
energy you that everybody feels like this could be it. Yes, okay,
so I understand, But I think that's the same thing
with any show. There are shows I prefer to being
on the lawn, be.
Speaker 4: Honest with you.
Speaker 2: If Susan Tedeski came again, I really like that kind
of bluesy, almost jam style, I would go on the lawn.
I'd be if John Hyatt came, fuck both of you,
fuck you not Danny. Danny doesn't make him. Kevin always
makes fun of Johnna. I know I took it back.
I took it back. I would say I would sit
on the lawn because I know the music and just
the vibe and hearing it come out and being there,
and you know what I get joy from. And I
know it sounds silly other people being joys. I love
the people that get up and dance their fat fucking no,
but I love it. And it's not so much to
make even making fun. I go, look at how happy
that person is. We should all like, hi, get good
for them, whatever, and it would be it would be asphalt,
not grasp, because they'd be playing at the Fairport Brewing Company.
Who John Hyatt little stage.
Speaker 4: You can see what you can see.
Speaker 3: I'll stay here.
Speaker 4: You can see the launch out in front of you
can see him from the stop light. Wait, but why
can't you appreciate that?
Speaker 3: Why I appreciate it.
Speaker 4: I hates other people.
Speaker 2: No, that's not.
Speaker 3: I am the least hateful person in this room.
Speaker 2: Wait wait, wait, wait, you have been the darkest person
in this room today, today, today, today.
Speaker 3: Because hard because people I want just let me just
replay the show. Okay, okay, let's rewind the tape. Yeah,
five people have reached out to you, yes, for some
type of access to Bill's camp because HBO's Hard Knocks
is gonna be there.
Speaker 4: But it's exciting. Why because they I don't know. They
think they're gonna give something, that's the point.
Speaker 3: But I don't know.
Speaker 4: It's down from the ten people that usually asking for that.
That's true.
Speaker 2: I've fallen off the wagon. Let's be honest, guys, and not.
Speaker 4: Not what it used to be. I just know.
Speaker 2: But when you and I I don't know, I I
guess there's a little bit of a giggle. I get
with it that I go, oh, that's kind of exciting.
And there is one person, man, I am gonna do
everything I can to get this person tickets a ticket,
But it's.
Speaker 4: Not gonna be any different because Hard Knocks is there.
You're just gonna I don't work cameras, It's still going
to be practice.
Speaker 2: Here's what I'll ask. I wonder if it'll be like
tougher like, will there be less seating, will they have cameras?
Those things take up the lighting in this.
Speaker 3: And I don't know anything, and I shouldn't probably say
anything or speculate, but I know there's some people at
Saint jeff Fisher who are.
Speaker 4: Like, oh, yes, it's a pain in the ass.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but the front office is like yeah, and the
and the people the athletic probably.
Speaker 4: Like, oh it's a pain in the A lot of
hard knocks. Th is not on the field stuff.
Speaker 3: I mean, the dorms, every every bar in Fairport and
Pittsford is going to be like lit for two three weeks.
Speaker 2: Kind of nice, it's kind of fun.
Speaker 3: Is fun?
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, there finally.
Speaker 3: Cover price is going up at Iron Smoke. Finally watch dollars,
get you get your josh as going to get on
stage and sick tape.
Speaker 4: We're gonna take a moment.
Speaker 3: Our friend Alex, we were hanging out, was stoleally the
other night from Bad Babies. Oh yeah, yeah you were too.
Speaker 2: I was yeah, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yes, yes, yes, no, yes,
I was lightly. I I forgot it was he was.
Speaker 3: He was like you know they like in the Presbyterian
church where they sprinkled the water on the baby for
the baptism. He was he was sprinkling the alcohol. He
wasn't really guzzling it.
Speaker 2: I was not. And I told you that the more
I thought about this weekend. I was very glad you
stayed in your cross because I think if I had
an instigator, it would have gone different.
Speaker 4: Why you got to pinch it on me? Yeah?
Speaker 3: He missed you, Kevin, Yes, because I missed you.
Speaker 2: And then and then.
Speaker 3: Our own section roped off.
Speaker 2: We're going to take a moment. Our friend Alex is
going to join us. Uh, reality TV producer? What goes
into things like hard knocks? How hard is it to
film something like that?
Speaker 3: And will there be a cat?
Speaker 2: Do they manufacture the dry I don't know if they
do on hard Knocks or not, But so used to
be useful.
Speaker 3: With the Jets. Cut the Jets. They kind of had
to because Woody Johnson with such an absentee Odor would
he need you with Rex?
Speaker 4: All right, Chris, he's got the updates on a hockey
show too.
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From an intern, once got yelled at to uh to
the Queen of New York.
Speaker 4: To Queen of New.
Speaker 3: York, the producer the next game, I saw her the
third row.
Speaker 2: You were in the next game. You weren't there. Oh,
I wish you were. Yeah, I would have loved to.
I was disappointed in the in the next and one
went on they were they so, Alex, We've been having
a little bit of a debate with our friend Dan
Dan Alex Dan.
Speaker 4: Dan was very uh.
Speaker 2: I love when Dan is like this, because how's your dog, Alex? Okay, okay,
she's nut the dog.
Speaker 8: It's been it's been a tough week in my house.
I don't want to bring down the mood, but I
had to put my dog to sleep this week. He
was he was old. He was like sixteen, so he
was he lived a long life, but it was very sad.
Speaker 9: It was I walked into that.
Speaker 4: I think you said it.
Speaker 3: I've walked into that.
Speaker 2: I think you said, well anyway, Yeah, I'm sorry about that, Alex,
because that sixteen years is a long time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's pretty good for a dog.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, geez, some marriages don't last that long.
Speaker 3: So manriagers still last sixteen months.
Speaker 2: Oh, I don't know anybody like that. Do I went
to when you're doing reality TV shoots, right, and you've
done several of them. Do people get excited random just
you know, people anywhere, any city anywhere? Do people citizens
get excited when they see cameras and lights and sometimes
try to peak at what's happening. Oh?
Speaker 8: Yeah, So it's funny because like in the decade before,
like influencers, Yes, people would get very excited. They would
want to come up and see what you were doing.
There's like this kind of thing in the industry where
if you're shooting something and someone comes over and they're like, hey,
what are you guys shooting? You say Mayonna's commercial because
nobody gives a ship about a man's commercial and nobody
cares who's in a man's comrcial, so they don't really
ask any follow up questions. They go oh cool, and
they kind of keep walking.
Speaker 9: Right, what.
Speaker 3: Are you spreading to us there.
Speaker 8: But I think now in the age of the influencer,
where everyone has a camera and everyone's shooting, you know, themselves,
dancing in the corners of the subways and stuff, it's
like it's now kind of become a bit of a nuisance.
But I think in the reality TV sense, like it
depends on where you are and what you're doing, Like
you're shooting like car racing for example, Oh yeah, everybody
wants to get in on the action. Who are you covering?
Who are you talking to?
Speaker 4: You know what I mean?
Speaker 8: Do you want to interview me? I know everything about racing.
But if it's like everyone's.
Speaker 2: Like, oh god, okay. So because Dan with hard knocks
coming to Saint John Fisher College his alma mana mine
as well, but his alma that's exciting, I thought, so too, Dan, Dan.
Speaker 3: And so hold on. I didn't say it wasn't exciting.
I said, why do you Why does that make you
even want to go to to Fisher More to watch practice?
What is it about? You're not going to get on television.
Speaker 2: Even if you do.
Speaker 3: Who cares?
Speaker 4: Well, that's television, but they care.
Speaker 2: And one of my grandmother in California got to see
it before she departs this dear planet.
Speaker 3: Right, Okay, now for the weather, you can.
Speaker 8: Say how some people are dying to be seen.
Speaker 3: That's called the attention economy.
Speaker 2: How hard is it to shoot a show like? I mean,
I don't know if you well, you did you you
dealt with a lot of football players in the last
reality show you did.
Speaker 8: Yeah, so, uh. What's cool about a show like Hard
Knocks is they do a lot of prep. As soon
as they figure out, like which team is going to
be the team, they spend a lot of their time
doing prep. Like the producers become basically like FBI agents,
and they learn everything there is to know about every
player that's going to be at camp. And then my
understanding is they sort of divide them into tiers. They
have like Tier one players and Tier two players, and
these are like your A stories and your B stories.
So when they go in to start following the players,
they kind of have a sense of like what they
know everything there is to know. They know what their
kindergarten teachers, you know, husband's grandma's name was, and you know,
so they kind of go in and they can follow,
you know. That's how they kind of create the human
story of it all because they know so much about
the players, so it's more than just about their technical
skills and their abilities on the feat.
Speaker 4: So HBO is better a draft than the team than
Brandon Bean.
Speaker 8: I mean, I don't know about Brandon Bean, but he
probably doesn't do as much research as they do.
Speaker 7: Well, I'm not saying anything.
Speaker 2: You know, Buffalo, you gotta instigate this ship, don't you know.
Speaker 3: I gotta get in because you think.
Speaker 2: That's what I mean.
Speaker 4: Get ships there kind of tell you what to do.
Speaker 2: It stirs it stirs it up, and then you I
love it, but you you have you have some deep
rooted thoughts.
Speaker 3: Josh Allen is entering his eighth season in the NFL.
The m v P has yet to win a Super Bowl.
Speaker 2: I think Coleman could become a big star out of that.
Speaker 3: Keon Coleman had disappointing end to twenty twenty four.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he'll I think he'll have an I
think he'll be a big personality.
Speaker 3: I think, yeah, he and Dion Dawkins are gonna be
the two like biggest bows. Yeah, and I don't mean
that in a bad way. They're gonna be the two
biggest characters on the show, and they're gonna focus on
five dudes. The're gonna focus on how They're gonna focus
on Dion, They're gonna focus on Keon, They're gonna focus
on Damar Hamblin. Okay, because that whole back to life
thing is still a huge thing. Yeah, they're gonna focus
on some local like a long shot right to make
the team. And I wouldn't be surprised if they focused
on Kim Pegoula and Kelly Paola the tennis player and
that angle because nis player. I'm sorry, Jesse, but the
point the thing is that I'm not tennis. The point is,
though I misspoke. The point is, though, is that that's
I mean, they might that those are all the angles
are gonna take. They'ren focused on the GM, the head coach,
and then you know iron Smoke Whiskey is where the
players like to go after the practice.
Speaker 2: Well, they used to go how Barbil They went to
bar Bill Yeah last year for one. Here they went
to the one and uh part of the last year. Yeah, yeah,
they were all upstairs all the time.
Speaker 4: He got out on the media and everybody went, no,
it did it did it got out of the meeting and.
Speaker 2: Everybody went, uh, what will we see the Will the
cameras be any more intrusive than what we already see
there because they're filming practice themselves the bills. Then you've
got you know, the local news from both Buffalo and
Rochester there, and sometimes ESPN will show up. I mean,
I wouldn't be surprised if you see a little bit
more of that stuff. I know NFL Network was there
last year or two years ago, so.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean the the production company itself will probably
have it between eight and nine cameras. If they're smart,
they'll probably do like two teams. They'll do like a
morning team and an afternoon team so they can have
the you know, all day coverage because they'll probably shoot
you know. But I don't think I Reality TV shooters
anyway are very good about staying out of the way
of the public because they're trying to get the whole picture,
So I don't think it will be too intrusive. I think,
like the biggest thing for the public is probably you'll
have to sign a release or there'll be some kind
of white area something posted where it's like you're entering
an area that's filming for HBO. If you enter this area,
you give permission to like have your likeness used in
the show.
Speaker 4: Than can they do it like on the ticket.
Speaker 8: The problem is with those is that they don't always
necessarily hold up in court. Uh. They like you to
individually go up to somebody and get them to sign
an actual piece of paper that says, like, I spoke
to someone, I agree to use my likeness. Here's this
document that you know gets scanned.
Speaker 2: Into Yeah, but I have to be somebody who thinks
they can get some dollars.
Speaker 8: What are you going to.
Speaker 4: Use my likeness on me?
Speaker 2: Name, image and likeness buddy money?
Speaker 8: And it's like, oh, well you posted it at the
front door, but there was nothing at the back door,
and so you know, so we always have to like
you put the sign up and then you have to
shoot it on a camera and then you have to mar, oh, well.
Speaker 4: There you go.
Speaker 2: You beat me to it.
Speaker 8: But I think that's like the only like difference is
you'll probably see about eight or nine more cameras kind
of moving around a little bit quicker, you know, news cameras,
sports cameras, they tend to be more static. The reality
TV guys.
Speaker 2: They have and things like, well, I wonder if they'll
set it up the cameras like they do during games,
So what are they going to hang it out?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Or or their own poles, like would they set up
their own grids poles up?
Speaker 8: They'll probably do.
Speaker 2: I mean, I know that sounds funny, but I'm wondering.
Speaker 8: They'll probably do drones for sure.
Speaker 4: Like there you go.
Speaker 2: That makes a lot more sense than what I'm thinking,
Well the drone footage, because it's only.
Speaker 4: What that is, it's.
Speaker 2: Only it's only practice. But you know, still, that's that's interesting.
Speaker 4: Uh, what else are you?
Speaker 2: What have you been working on?
Speaker 8: I have been working on a lot of stuff on
the corporate side. Unfortunately, the TV the TV market right
now is still like really unstable, so there's not a
lot of work. So I've been doing this project for
Amazon Corporate, which has been such an adventure. And I
hate presenting to begin with, and when you present to
a group that tends to like be very quiet, it's
just very awkward, you know. So I often find myself
like talking into a bunch of zoom boxes. It's very right.
Speaker 4: Or when he life coached, somebody sent me a thing
today that they got life.
Speaker 2: I think would be good at life coaching. Now better
because he's better, No, because he's wiser.
Speaker 3: Guys, I'm right here, right here.
Speaker 2: No, I know that's why I'm talking to like, Yeah,
I'm not saying anything bad.
Speaker 8: I I think I need to turn the cameras on
on to this show. I mean, this is where the
real drama is, right here in the Billified studio. I
think the last episode I heard somebody was mad about
not getting invited to a party, and you got all
kinds of something.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we had Mark Mark Hillman, who was a very
bitter man from Greece.
Speaker 2: He was he was very hurt by that. He was
hurt and he gets but hurt when everybody's man.
Speaker 4: When he's in here.
Speaker 2: And he doesn't. He feels like he's not getting enough attention.
Speaker 3: No, No, I don't think it's the attention part. I
think it's that he can't get his his point across.
Speaker 4: No, it's attention, he said it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, but I don't think that's what he meant.
Speaker 2: Uh well, I think sometimes yeah, he feels like he
doesn't have a room to get anything point across, get
point across, yeah, or or I.
Speaker 4: Used to work in radio because he has four points
and we've heard all four of them.
Speaker 3: I actually think Mark's pretty interesting. He can I loved
to show some Mark can be.
Speaker 4: He cant be.
Speaker 3: But Mark has managed bands, Mark's owned a bar. Yes,
Mars traveled, Mars Marx.
Speaker 4: Had hasn't been good at any of it.
Speaker 3: He's had an interesting life.
Speaker 4: GOI Kevin the radio, Yes he did.
Speaker 3: Uh worked in television.
Speaker 2: So what does the corporate stuff mean, Alex is that
you have to go up and present a corporate about
like video ideas.
Speaker 8: Uh. Their Amazon AD division, their B two B AD division,
did a study recently where they are trying to figure out,
like how to get advertisers to understand their customers better.
So they did this whole comprehensive research study and basically
they found that the majority of advertisers go after consumers
based on their generation gen X, gen Y, gen Z millennials.
But what what Amazon has found anyway, is that people
aren't shopping based on their age, They're shopping based on
their interest. So fourteen year old old person is buying
a ring light to do TikTok dances, but so as
a sixty five year old person buying a ring Light
to do TikTok dances with their you know what I mean. Yes,
so it's not generational. So they did this whole study
and now they want to do this video campaign that
they want to take to can in France to kind
of tell their advertisers like and potential advertisers like, hey,
you guys are doing it wrong. We did this whole study.
Here's some highlights of the study. Here's where you can
find the study if you want to research it. And
here's why. You know, being with Amazon Ads is better
for your business. So I'm creating a video for potential
customers of you know, B to B customers and Amazon
Ads to like encourage them to read the study, understand
what it is, and then come and prime.
Speaker 4: What is it included in prime?
Speaker 2: It's actually pretty interesting when you think about a business
to business and the cross generational a thing of interest.
The ring lights a great example because I see, uh,
there's a lot of dancing on TikTok. Now I get
the I get the middle aged mom that that was hot,
like really hot in high school.
Speaker 4: Held on algorithm, yeah yeah, held on to it.
Speaker 2: But then I also get this old couple from Scotland
that do TikTok dances, the trendy dances in their kitchen,
and I love watching him trying to do it. And
it's true all this stuff goes cross generational. So I
think that's a pretty interesting.
Speaker 3: That's why I see all those big Tarvy and A
one c ads I got?
Speaker 2: Where do you see that?
Speaker 3: See it everywhere?
Speaker 2: On your Prime and things?
Speaker 3: I see it like all of the play you bought
something for this?
Speaker 4: Would you like to try? Well?
Speaker 2: See I I don't because you do get some ads
on Prime? Now?
Speaker 3: Uh like does everybody? I don't have aids?
Speaker 4: The I saw your jersey has a magic magic Johnson
and on the wall.
Speaker 2: The What I was gonna say is Prime is stepping up.
They've got the Coca Cola six hundred this weekend. It's
on Prime.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's on Prime. Yeah, but get that.
Speaker 4: You didn't say it right?
Speaker 2: How do you say co CoA.
Speaker 4: Cola co Cola? Uh?
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think that's Charlie in charge.
Speaker 3: They just had the pg A. Now they get the
well the wow, Yeah.
Speaker 2: That's a big back to back weekends there. It's a
different clientele.
Speaker 3: I text our buddy Crowley didn't get back to me.
Speaker 2: Really shocking, and I don't know, this is busy looking
for a job. Uh what I would just everybody, I
don't I love it throwing it around.
Speaker 4: It's right there, that's it.
Speaker 2: You lob it up, right, Alex, I saw it lob
it up.
Speaker 4: That's what happens, Alex. I might have a reality show.
Speaker 2: I've been writing you have what is it?
Speaker 8: Is this different from what?
Speaker 2: No, it's what we're already talking about.
Speaker 8: This I am. I am really looking forward to getting
going on that, Kevin. I would love for your other
constituents to get back to me. One of them said,
I don't have an email from this gentleman. I will
have to send I will send out another round of emails,
but basically I can't really do much with just your interview,
which was very good by the way I cut together
very nicely. It's gonna look great with some hockey footage
just off the rip, you know, talking to some people
in the industry. The only red flag that kind of
everyone has sort of come to me with is the kids,
because kids are such a liability. They can only work
a certain amount of hours and then they you know, shooters,
and there's insurance, but you know, it's it's got a
good buzz. It's gonna be fun. So I just have
to get I have to get some more interviews.
Speaker 2: But Bill, let's make it happen, Alex, let's make it happened.
I need something to happen. Yeah, all right, well then good,
all right. Yeah, necessity is the mother of invention, so
we're going to make that.
Speaker 4: Do you think my neighbor my neighborhood could be a
show to call the Sack?
Speaker 10: Oh?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's the Garagio or yeah it's yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 4: I think Danny could be a show. Bitter old Manuels.
Speaker 3: I'm not a bitter old man.
Speaker 4: You are.
Speaker 3: I'm not, though, Danny, I'm really not.
Speaker 4: You are. You don't trust anybody.
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 2: You don't trust doctors, you don't trust anything. You're not
really I like that. I like it.
Speaker 3: It's a show skeptical, Okay.
Speaker 8: Like YouTube, Like you have a YouTube series where you
can like put your thoughts and you can also do
some like life coaching where you're not necessarily working one
on one with somebody, but you're like offering coaching tips.
You know what I mean. If you want to have
a more successful day, start with making your bed what
about that that would be fun?
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I mean a lot of it's been done,
you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 8: Yeah, but I mean everything what makes me special?
Speaker 3: I don't understand what it will make me more special
than somebody else.
Speaker 2: Well, you better figure that the funk out. Because your
mom thinks you're special. I don't know why she does the.
Speaker 3: Guitar God thinks him special.
Speaker 2: You got to take that hat off and show the hair.
Speaker 4: If you do that, do it.
Speaker 2: Do it? Made a good point. The coach got hot
morning when she saw the head of hair.
Speaker 3: You think so she did? Did you that you would
have gotten watched her?
Speaker 4: You would have gotten that hand job on the loan
and se mag.
Speaker 8: Nice.
Speaker 2: Yes, we've been picking on Danny and Danny's.
Speaker 8: Are you in your feelings? Don't be in your feelings it.
Speaker 3: Means feelings exactly. I'm not in my feelings at all.
Speaker 2: Not no, No, only three people say he is.
Speaker 4: He says he's not.
Speaker 2: Well, Alex, I will get back to you on the
stuff soon, very soon.
Speaker 4: Okay.
Speaker 2: And and yes, we've been taping, uh doing a lot
of different things here again, Necessity is the mother of invention.
I've had to rework the schedule and things because I
have I got to I got some great stories for you.
Speaker 4: I got some great stories that.
Speaker 2: Would make great unuh, great scripted stuff if I could. Yeah,
I think. I think a lot of my life, A
lot of my life just segments. There are certain portions
of my life that I think would make phenomenally scripted television.
Speaker 8: I'm telling you there is a series here. We already
had this conversation, but I'm telling you there's a series here.
It starts in your kitchen, it starts on that fateful day.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, you know what I mean. Can I play me?
Speaker 8: You can play you can play himself.
Speaker 3: Some Asian kids coming and play me.
Speaker 4: Girl, the Asian girl from Modern Family.
Speaker 2: No, I want to know who we want to play?
Who would you want to play?
Speaker 3: Probably Manny from a Modern Family. No, No, I'm just joking, Uh,
David or Coot?
Speaker 4: No, well, I'm thinking of this.
Speaker 2: George Went just died, and I did not know College
Joe could play a good Dan Baralla. Okay, that's a
great one. I was going to say, I did not
realize who his nephew is. Jason Jason Sedeikis is George
Went's nephew.
Speaker 3: Oh, I didn't know that.
Speaker 2: I only found that out through like Entertainment Tonight or something.
But he even did in a little tribute to Norm
the whole thing when they cheered Norm in uh, what.
Speaker 4: Was the show he wrote for Apple?
Speaker 2: Yes, and ted Lasso, he had some little nod to
his uncle, Norm, his uncle.
Speaker 3: I knew something was up when they.
Speaker 2: Thought that he died during that time.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I know something was up when the pulp
was announced. They was from Chicago and Saturday Night Live
didn't do a cold open with the super fans. At
that point, I'm like, okay, that would be the ob
his play to start the show because they love They
didn't do that, and now we know why George was
or George went was probably pretty sick.
Speaker 2: I didn't see George for many years.
Speaker 3: He didn't.
Speaker 2: They showed clips of him on a podcast with Ted Danson.
Speaker 3: Yeah it's awful. Yeah, he looks terrible. He looked like
job with the hut. I mean, he he really looked rough.
But I wrote my column this week in the Times
Wayne County about Norm, not about George went about Norm
mm in a sports section.
Speaker 2: It was kind of cute.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I hope I hope everybody gets to read that.
Speaker 2: All right, Well, Alex, I uh, maybe you'll be up here.
Speaker 4: You should get on the HBO.
Speaker 2: Crew do the hard knocks. Let's do it.
Speaker 8: Money are you are you like freelance like like like
for project to project?
Speaker 3: Are you full time?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 8: Okay, on freelance. I've only been full time once and
I left the full time job to go do a
freelance job.
Speaker 3: But it's this.
Speaker 8: Project Runway in my defense, so I had to.
Speaker 3: I went into the.
Speaker 8: Creative director office and I was like, I'm so so sorry.
It was an agency job, very cushy, and I was like,
I'm so so sorry. I got this opportunity. I have
to take it as Project Redway. And he just went,
I hate you.
Speaker 2: Project Runway. That's right, you did Project Runway.
Speaker 3: Was that with Heidi or was that after Heidi?
Speaker 8: No, that was after Heidi. So it Heidi did it.
It was on Bravo and then it was on Lifetime. Yeah,
and then it went back to Bravo and Heidi left
to go do another show with Tim Gunn from Amazon.
Speaker 3: Amazon and it don't last in one season and then
they never renewed it. I think they left because of
the whole controversy with Harvey Weinstein because.
Speaker 8: Fan to sell the show, and then it went to
another production company, and then Bravo was like, it's a
good it's a good property, we should bring it back.
So when it went back to Bravo, I did those
seasons and now it is it's got a whole new
incarnation with Heidi Gloom on Disney. Oh oh really, yeah,
they'd just finish shooting.
Speaker 3: What about Tim, I don't think so.
Speaker 8: I think it's Christian Ciriano from the Bravo Tim.
Speaker 3: Made the whole show. Yeah, it was a fascinating show.
Tim Gunn made the entire show.
Speaker 2: I didn't watch it's.
Speaker 8: It's I mean working on it. I will tell you,
like it is one of the reality shows I've done
where like producers are very hands off. We're just there
to observe the drama and do the interviews to to
get you know, to understand the process and whatever. But
they really are creating those looks in that time crunch
and a vacuum like that. It's pretty incredible.
Speaker 3: You watch this show with whom I've watched it. Okay,
this show has been on so long. I watched it
with Beth because she watched it. And then remember Megan
when I dated Megan, I watched that show before you
and I even worked together because she was fascinated with it,
and it was It's fascinating, it really is. And Tim
Gunn really is a good mentor, he's a great people guy.
Project lasting longer, but it's a fascinating show.
Speaker 4: Yeah, every really is watched it.
Speaker 2: Here's the thing said that.
Speaker 3: Is there ever about a straight guy on the show.
Speaker 8: Yeah, there's been a couple, a couple. Yeah, it's not
it's just not like it's just.
Speaker 2: An Italian industry for us.
Speaker 4: Well, yes, you're.
Speaker 3: Like straight men designed, you're not gonna find them.
Speaker 4: There's not many. They never want to be on that show.
Speaker 2: No, I I think you're probably right.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 2: It's a very creative business. It does seem to. But
I'm thinking, like you know when you think of Tommy
Hill Figure and Ralph Laren. Yeah, I'm just thinking about
people know.
Speaker 4: Straight But but it.
Speaker 2: Is you're right in on the show for sure.
Speaker 3: But they're flamboyance like makes the fire show.
Speaker 4: The Game make a better show than the straight guys.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna cut these parents.
Speaker 4: Straight guys don't get into the dramas. You guys will
get into the dramas.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna parents.
Speaker 2: They also, Oh no, they have just a better way
of speaking. There's some creative thing.
Speaker 3: I am not even thinking about winning the challenge right now.
I am just trying to survive next week or else.
My dream is it's gonna be.
Speaker 4: The gay guys cut the pants straight.
Speaker 2: All right? All right, right, that was a good one, Alex, Alex,
thank you for giving us your time. I appreciate it.
We'll talk to you soon, and uh maybe maybe you
will see up here, uh scripting some not scripting, creating
some drama around the buffer.
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Speaker 2: They should just do They should just set an HBO
camera up at thirsties. Just leave one there in that
what yeah for eight hours?
Speaker 3: Yeah, if you remember the show, I haven't been the
Diagon William.
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Uh the Who Nanny Who Chananni's coming this summer. And
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to be joining us cool in the studio. We'll get
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Speaker 5: You look, where are you?
Speaker 2: You said you made me gott.
Speaker 4: You encompassing two audiences this one. Who should any in
Sunday Night football all together?
Speaker 3: Buddy Jealous?
Speaker 2: Yeah they didn't, man, they flipped this. I think Joan
did it with Carrie Blny.
Speaker 4: Yes, hey, fast sell for Sunday Night Football.
Speaker 3: I sold out. I sold to just to make a
few bucks. She did. Hey At that point where you
have to at that point, because when it goes to
the public domain, it's gone. You're not gonna get that money.
It's like kiss and everybody sold the rights. Yeah, cash
in one last time.
Speaker 4: She's not sitting on a wheelchair on a stage singing
like the What's Your Name? From Heart? Sitting in a
wheelchair singing on stage.
Speaker 2: Wow, I don't know.
Speaker 3: Well, she's been sick for a while. She had cancer
for a bit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, did not know. I play that because the
Hoochin Anny is coming in August and our friend Sean
McCarthy will be in here and talk a little bit more.
But early tickets, right, the early bird specials on tickets
ends on Saturday, and I thought it would be fun
to have him in, so he should be on his way.
I'm told that today's birthday.
Speaker 3: Oh.
Speaker 2: I probably could verify that with other people, but I
got it from a good source, Tommy Burnett, so I
figured that has to be the case. So I don't
know if he's out drinking and partying. You gonta come
roar in here. I have absolutely no idea.
Speaker 4: If he's over, he's got all the day around.
Speaker 2: But Danny, Yes, I saw something and I thought of
you okay, because I think of you from time to time.
Speaker 3: I appreciate that.
Speaker 2: A viral TikTok trend claims that a specific McDonald's combo
a large coke and large fries is the magic bullet
for migrain relief.
Speaker 3: Large coke and large well savory and sweet. Yeah right,
there's sugar migraine. A lot of people like will recommend
candy for migraines. Okay, because of blood, sugar and whatnot.
Speaker 2: It's never worked for me, but millions of users swear
by this fast food fix, crediting the caffeine and saw
combo for killing their headaches. While medical experts agree that
the caffeine can aid in short term migraine really leave,
and sodium may help replenish lost electrolytes, they caution against
frequent indulgence still, because you'd.
Speaker 4: Be in the ground.
Speaker 2: Still. If a trip through the Golden Arches gives your
brain to break, it might be the most delicious everyone.
You go, fine, Yeah, you just can't turn into a
daily prescription here, he cuts.
Speaker 3: Warren Buffett used to eat that, Yeah, or it still
does regularly.
Speaker 2: Yes, come on in, have a seat. Yes, we're live,
We're on. There's whiskey. Oh no, there's beer we have.
I got a stella in there. I drank all the guinness.
I hear today is a special day for you.
Speaker 5: Every day is a special day.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I heard this is extra special. It's not
moving day. To that beautiful house on the canal that
I drive by. I see it back there, beautiful blue nicely.
Speaker 5: It's not moving day. We don't know what moving day is.
Speaker 3: Really.
Speaker 2: That's gonna be a little frustrating.
Speaker 5: It's gonna be weird.
Speaker 2: That's that's a little frustrated.
Speaker 5: It's a moving target.
Speaker 2: Yes, we were just talking. Danny has migraines, and I
was just saying that I read a thing somebody went
viral on TikTok for talking about the cure being McDonald's
large diye of coke and French fries or large coke, yes, coke.
Speaker 3: I think the weird thing though, is that like when
I when I used to eat McDonald's, if I had
big Max, I would get a migraine really because of
the MSG and I think that's what it was. I
would get it. I would I could count on a
migraine afterwards. So I stopped eating there. Like years ago,
Jesus chrisparts and it could be.
Speaker 4: A little lot over there. Yeah, I'm good.
Speaker 5: I just had I just went out to dinner and
I had a couple of drinks.
Speaker 2: So yeah, keep it going. Where worried?
Speaker 5: I was at Body and Clyde.
Speaker 2: Oh how good?
Speaker 10: They're the best open.
Speaker 5: And used my teeth, don't I've never actually done that.
Speaker 3: Kevin's prepared, of course, So how's the hooch?
Speaker 2: And Andy said, we just played a little jone Jet
just because I think she's maybe the most commercially known
on the on the bill, But how is uh, how
are tickets going? And and the early bird special?
Speaker 5: Great?
Speaker 10: I mean I I think I'm trying to remember, like, no,
it's right before tickets went we did so I I
you know, I won't get into current details, but I'll
say that we sold over a thousand tickets in six hours.
Speaker 4: Wow, okay, day.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean we were like wow, yeah.
Speaker 2: That's pretty good. Yeah, well it's a great lineup. Yeah
you have, especially if you don't. I don't want to
start a rumor about the lineup. But I know somebody
who works for the town of Irondequoit working on the
site over there. Yeah, and he was saying that there's
rumblings that he's heard that there might be somebody who's
touring with Jone Jet that might stop by too.
Speaker 5: Oh, I don't know about that.
Speaker 4: These things.
Speaker 5: So hey, you heard it here.
Speaker 10: And yes it's a rumor, and I'm coow that'd be rare.
I don't expect that. I think he'll be going and
relaxing for the two weeks. I think they're on like
a two week towards. It might be a few weeks.
I can't recall.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you gotta listen.
Speaker 10: If you want Billy Idol to show up, you gotta
you gotta fork over the money.
Speaker 2: But you know, he may come by the House of
Guitars and go, ah, fuck it, I'm right here.
Speaker 10: What I'm here, I might as well help one rock
the cradle or.
Speaker 2: I mean, come on, yeah, what was that was?
Speaker 4: That?
Speaker 2: Was it the Cradle of Love? That Billy Idol got
into such a bad motorcycle accident that the video is
just him in picture frames on the wall, singing because
he could. I think he was in a wheelchair from
the and from this bad motorcycle accent, and I think
that was it.
Speaker 5: I don't know, I didn't know why that? But I
remember the video.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the video was that, and it was because he
couldn't stand.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, stand up. That checks out?
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then what was the other He just had
a some up viral thing going with his throat or
something a while back. Yeah, he's done it all, but
he's still doing it.
Speaker 4: He's still doing it. His grandfather, he's out there kicking ass.
Speaker 5: I love that.
Speaker 4: Yes, that's the way it ought to be.
Speaker 5: I love the rock and rollers that like.
Speaker 10: And I've said this for my festival, like we did
the research right to make sure that these people who
you know, it's like people get up up there in
age and sometimes it's like you go there like, oh man,
they were so good, but we want the people who
are still so good. That's like, and Billy Idol is
still that good.
Speaker 4: And yeah Jone Jetts Jon Jets Ros isn't coming.
Speaker 5: That's a bummer too.
Speaker 4: Man, Vince Steel's not coming.
Speaker 5: Here's the weird thing.
Speaker 3: Rat are they coming?
Speaker 5: Yeah, but here's the weird thing.
Speaker 10: So with guns, like Axel's vocals have been kind of
up and down over the years. But I'll say this
that when Brian Johnson a C d C went went
down and went and he couldn't.
Speaker 5: We went down in twenty sixteen.
Speaker 10: I think an Axle filled in for those last three
three months of the Rock or Bust tour. I went
to Buffalo, but in general, everywhere that they went, everyone
was like, holy shit, this is amazing. And I double checked,
like my memories. I'm like, did I remember being good?
Because sometimes when you're at a show live, you're like
do I Like, you get lost in the moment, right,
So maybe the vocals weren't good, but you're not rocking
out and you're drunk. So but I've watched live footage
and like, dude, Axel on that tour, maybe that's where
he finally fully blew out his high register shriek, which
that's what he always did. Because man, like that tour,
he sounded so good with ac DC.
Speaker 2: That's interesting because I never he sounded so good.
Speaker 5: Really, dude, if you look at just look at a
I have a rose it is.
Speaker 3: And he stayed out of the way too. He didn't
take over the show. He let ac DC do respect.
He just was like, yeah, I'm just here to sing
because ac DC.
Speaker 10: If you've never seen him live, I mean I haven't
about Angus oh, sure, it's about Angus and even and
obviously it's only now Angus and uh that's it.
Speaker 5: And Brian Johnson of course.
Speaker 2: But Brian Johnson is not a real original guy.
Speaker 5: It's not a bond.
Speaker 10: But I still I feel like Brian Johnson is as
he's as valid.
Speaker 5: Of a Yeah, Malcolm.
Speaker 4: He's the Ron Wood of A C D C.
Speaker 10: Uh Fair Cliff Cliff, their bass player, like he's like
when they did that. I actually saw them live at
hang He was a guy the Coachella site. What was
the name of Oh, hang On, I can't get there
right now.
Speaker 5: Power up, power up, power up.
Speaker 10: Yeah, it was. It was like a metal festival a
year and a half ago. I'm like, I'm gonna go
to the Coachella site, Like I bought the tickets six
months in event. So it was like Maiden, Iron Maiden,
h A C d C Metallica tool who I'm like,
I respect to a. It was Guns and Roses where
I was like, oh my god, what happened Axle's voice?
And uh, Judas Priest of all the bands, so tell me,
Judas Priest was the best. So Judas Priest was great.
Rob Halifer still kills it. Yeah, I've always been very
aware of Iron Maiden, but I never was fully down
with Maiden until that show. Was like, like, I'm like, dude,
for years, I've known sure my friends wearing Iron Main shirts.
That was so they're cool, but like, dude, Iron Maiden
is the real deal, and they're like beyond anyone in
their early seventies, like they are killing it more than
anyone else their age.
Speaker 4: Okay by far.
Speaker 2: This is because I would never pick you as a medal.
I just wouldn't think metal was your thing. Yeah, what
do you think is my thing?
Speaker 3: What do you most tattoos?
Speaker 4: If someone yeah, yeah, but if someone said to me,
you've got this boy band look to you. No, but
like Mo Dark Star Orchestra.
Speaker 5: I guess that's not my thing. I'm not into Jams.
Speaker 4: I thought you were. I wouldn't.
Speaker 5: I would have thought jam. No.
Speaker 10: That's only because I like, I just grew my hair out,
but that was like random. When my first kid was born,
I'm like, I'm gonna grow my hair out because I'll
probably lose it in ten years, so I's gonna do
it because I've never done it. And thirteen years later,
I still have hair and it's long No, like I
grew up on my first love for music. First first
love was like Michael Jackson's Thriller.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well that was a great album.
Speaker 10: Because I was like I was six seven years old,
but this is awesome. The first record I owned was
bon Jovi Slippery When what Okay, when I had a
Fisher Price like record player. But then like when I
got into music, truly got into music. It was like
it was the Guns and Roses and Metallica, like between
Guns Use Your Illusion albums and Metallica's Black Album. But
then obviously uh, Nirvana and all that, but really like
punk rock, like was like when I was thirteen, Like
when I got into punk rock, that's when I was like,
this is it? So punk rock is my core music.
Speaker 2: Okay, look at that. Danny's always and always will be forever.
Danny's a big nineties music guy. Loved uh, Pearl.
Speaker 3: Jams, Pearl Jam, Yeah, Tragically Hip Yeah, absolutely those bands.
And then you know something, violets.
Speaker 2: Kevin loves old country.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the older the better.
Speaker 3: I hated country in the eighties as a kid growing up,
but then when I got older, I appreciated it so much.
Speaker 10: Well, you appreciate a lot more went well than it.
I mean, I just think that it's fine. People who
love new country, it's it's whatever.
Speaker 5: Yeah, to be like the country.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's the same four songs.
Speaker 10: Stuff from like the nineties, like John Michael Montgomery and
all that. It was still country. It was fun but
it was yeah, but now it's very pop. Other than
of course, Charles will say, god Win our Friday night
headliner for Hooch and Andy, Who is the real fucking deal.
Speaker 2: So the last day is Saturday for early birth tickets. Correct,
the twenty fifth. That's the twenty fifth.
Speaker 10: I thought, oh no, okay, week after so we're we're close.
We're like ten days out the anime.
Speaker 2: Oh all right, so you got the I thought it was.
I don't know why I had the twenty fifth locked
in my head. It's okay, all right.
Speaker 10: What we're giving people an extra notice that Yeah, it's
like you know, I mean, it's it's not a huge jump,
but it's like a fifteen percent jump or whatever.
Speaker 2: So it's it's it's significant enough.
Speaker 5: It's a jump.
Speaker 10: But you know what what's funny is I'm now promoting
a concert and I'm kind of like, let's sell tickets
and and the ticket sales are growing great, like we're
we're super happy with everything. But then myself, I'm like,
I'm guilty as everyone. I'm like where, you know, like
just buy the tickets before early birds over. But then
I got all kinds of concerts. I know for a fact,
I'm going to be at the summer and I haven't
bother freaking tickets yet. Like so I'm as guilty as
all of our fans, you know, who hopefully welcome to
our festival.
Speaker 5: Like I watched.
Speaker 2: I keep hearing people talking about Eggy. That's one that
I hear a lot about. I'm not all that familiar
with Eggy. Yeah I do. I think there's a band
called Tommy Brunett's All Start Cavalcade of Scoundrels that will
probably play as well.
Speaker 5: Yeah, time is making it happen.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Uh Christina Vane, Yeah, how do I know her?
Speaker 5: She's like she's an Italian uh singer? That makes it.
Speaker 10: She's an Italian country singer. And and like when people
hear her like she kind of actually through I think
Charles Wesley Godwin's agent. They're like, this would be a
good fit for like an opener and she is mind
blowing if anyone looks her up. Okay, every band way
of playing, even there's a few that I never knew about.
But like, I'm confident that everyone will perform and people
will be like, these bands are really good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, how stress will you be that that weekend?
Speaker 5: I think by then I'll be okay.
Speaker 10: I uh, I've not been stressed for years because like,
I've become so comfortable with my other my main company. Right,
everything circles around McCarthy Tenson events, right, and then so
huche and all these things are like we're breaking up
and doing this. I've been kind of an autopilot for years.
So it feels it's kind of cool and also awful
to be like stressed out and into the unknown of
like what am I getting myself into?
Speaker 5: Yeah, but that's kind of still feel it's fun.
Speaker 10: I know everyone's once you get to the event, there's
nothing you can do.
Speaker 4: You just gonna sit back and enjoy.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 10: I will say that the team we have built up,
like I feel pretty damn good about like who's involved
with us, So I think it's all about just getting
that lined up and making sure. I mean really, it's
like make sure your guests are taken care of deliver
what they expect, which we are gonna do. But also
the artists like that's like the big part of it
is like the way festivals become successful. It's not just
for the fans, but it's like the artist. The artists
like gold within reason. You know we're gonna get we'll
give into two thirds of their writer agreements that ask
us for ridiculous things. But but also we're just gonna
like give them a good time.
Speaker 4: And then have you seen any of the riders?
Speaker 5: Yeah? It's crazy, is it?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Can you give us without saying any of the bands?
But one of the weirdest things, because there was always
for example, one of the things that we heard, I
think it was years ago was van Halen.
Speaker 4: There was a reason why they did that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, to make sure you read the rider correct.
Speaker 4: To make sure that if you did, if you took
care of what they asked for, your electrical is going
to handle their show.
Speaker 10: Yeah, everyone knows a classic is right whatever, But I
always thought it was to make sure that someone actually
read the rider and gave a ship about what was
happening with the band and and probably the electrical.
Speaker 2: I don't know, but I mean, what what is one
of the things that would be a little strange Now.
Speaker 5: I think it's like just.
Speaker 10: It's like, uh, one pineapple Lacroix, like sparkly, one pineapple,
one man of an orange, and one like just like
very particular numbers where you're like, you're you.
Speaker 5: Have to this can be real.
Speaker 4: Tommy Branton sits on anaa backstage for really yeah, to
be able to rub before it goes onstage for locke Iguana. Danny,
did you ever have a rider?
Speaker 8: No?
Speaker 4: No, no, I don't mean.
Speaker 3: To want to even get on stage.
Speaker 2: Like Danny's and bands and stuff, but like sometimes local
bands had you know, we two cases of water, case
of beers.
Speaker 3: They never had a rider.
Speaker 4: No, I don't know.
Speaker 2: It wasn't trying to be funny or rude. I'm serious.
I know that there are bands that do. I as
matter of fact, I think I interviewed somebody and I'm
pretty sure their band probably as a rider, you know, And.
Speaker 3: Yea, I think so they might. They might, But I
remember the tragically Hiptos story was that they had to
have at least like twelve cases of beer sure, and
one like just just for I mean, there's five dudes
in the band, right, so much beer, and then they
had to have like eight jars of peanut butter. It's
what are you gonna do with eight jars of peanut butter?
Speaker 10: Well, so a lot of it, a lot of Some
of it is like h like bus bus stocking or whatever,
I forget the name of it, but like like well this,
that and the other.
Speaker 5: Thing, and also like all the splies to stock our boss.
Speaker 10: So it's like, wish I get it though these bands,
I mean especially more so now than six seven years ago.
The costs of touring, the cost of life, everyone knows,
like the cost of everything.
Speaker 5: Everything's fucking nuts.
Speaker 10: But it's like if they can just pay the tour
bus company and all that, that's great. But then if
they can just get their bus stocks with all these promoters.
Speaker 4: That Rochester Butter will get the jeanets, why not getting
bread boys?
Speaker 10: Why not have to you know, you have to spend
money on that. It's it's a nice thing and have
people provide it.
Speaker 5: Great.
Speaker 10: So I think we'll take care of people with some
of the requests too. They know it's like they're not
going to get everything, so you just kind of say.
Speaker 5: This is what we're actually gonna do. I will say too.
Speaker 10: The interesting thing is our booking agent told us in
advance like country artists are always way chiller. Yeah, Friday night,
it's just like, dude, just get us a rug and
Y and Z and we're good.
Speaker 2: I'm like, I wonder why that is, because I've heard
that for years with country artists, even at the biggest
like just or so much more accessible to their fans,
more gracious, almost grateful for the fans and things where
sometimes the rock guys but the rock persona at least
back you know, when I was a kid and stuff
was like fuck, you know, it's giving you the middle finger.
So it was so different. I think this is very exciting.
I haven't seen anybody put something like this together.
Speaker 5: Everyone's excited, man.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 10: And you know it's like the tickets keep moving and
Timmy and me, you know, it's like there's always something
to do to do with it every day.
Speaker 5: Just it's tough.
Speaker 10: I think I think this year will be a lot
harder than future years because it's like you're just getting
everything into place. Sure, it was just like when we
when we did Holiday Village the first year in twenty eighteen,
like you get the whole thing in place, and there's
so much with branding and sponsors and all this, and
then you just after that, it's like it's still work,
but it's easier and we're just in that grind phase man,
where we're just like, I'm just gonna get through it.
But you know, aside from the music and aside from
the early bird ticketing, which everyone get on it before
the end of May, but the whiskey, we have all
the whiskey vendors now lined up and it's thirty amazing distilleries.
And that's been like for us, like no challenge, Like
booking bands is hard, Like the whiskey is like we
had someone in charge of that, but like it's killer,
Like we have like good stuff going on with that.
Speaker 4: So this is the thing. Once you do it the
first or second time and you get your your set up. Yeah,
people and it works. They're coming to you. You don't
have to go to them anymore.
Speaker 5: Correct.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 2: Friday, August eighth, Saturday, August ninth, Sunday August tenth, it's
when the hoo chinanny is Yep, those are the days and.
Speaker 4: The website ticket tickets.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's uh hoo chin Anny Whiskey dot what
it isn't it? Let me see if I'm if I
have the right website whiskey dot com.
Speaker 10: No, no, no, no, skip the whiskey Skip the whiskey
dot com dot com.
Speaker 2: And it's called the huchin Any Whiskey and Music Festival.
That's stumbling, and I apologize, but hoo chinani dot com. Uh,
why don't we take them over? You gotta get out
of I know it's your birthday and stuff.
Speaker 5: So oh yeah, we're ignoring that. I already listened. I
already my wife and I our kids.
Speaker 10: Were a dance and we like did the quick like
hour and twenty minutes, go out to dinner and we
did that.
Speaker 2: No, I'm here, okay because I want to know. I
got to pick your brain on just and I know
we did this before, but just for people who aren't familiar,
it's Sean Owens McCarthy tentson events and then is also
part owner of the Holiday Rock Village Rock Holliday, and
then he's part of the Hoos with Tommy. But these ideas,
these are ideas that people sit around and go that'd
be a fucking great idea, But what is it about
you that goes, yeah, let's do it. And what how
do you put the wheels into motion when there's no
blueprint for this, really, for any of this. Maybe there
is some one with music festivals and Tommy has a
little bit of knowledge, but no one's done a concert
where you guys are doing it, not to this level. Yeah,
just think chew on that for a second. We'll take
a break and we'll come back. And then Kevin has
invented a new game that can he play long? Sure,
all right, we'll get to all that right after this.
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Listeners from syracuse saying how excited? They are they? You
reuys really. That's funny so it's Country more, friday night would,
you say more Rock? On saturday, and.
Speaker 5: Yeah that was.
Speaker 10: Moderately planned it's kind of also like you kind of
just when you're a, new festival you are, newer festival
you kind of just put it out there and see what.
Comes Back so friday, night, Too Though Friday friday night's actually.
Speaker 5: More collected that.
Speaker 10: People think so it's it's definitely a, country guy definitely a.
Country opener but then Like the english beat is just
like classic like late seventies, or eighties like, first WAVE
like ska, like.
Speaker 5: Okay like you KNOW what.
Speaker 10: I mean so it's like but Then obviously saturday is
definitely pretty.
Speaker 5: Rock Orientated but sunday, STRAIGHT.
Speaker 4: Up i got ras looking Forward.
Speaker 10: To sunday sunday it's, just jam, you know there's no debate,
of that but.
Speaker 5: Every, other day but it's a lot of. That too
is like.
Speaker 10: When we first started programming, THE festival i really WAS
like i, want this this day and all. These things
BUT then i also kind of started looking into like
a lot of other festivals and it's like all these
big festivals now are. So eclectic there we just, were
like you, know what let us go. For it just
see what see.
Speaker 2: What happens is that the primary attitude you have sean
with everything BECAUSE as i, said before You Know Rock,
holiday village you've got The, hut nanny your McCarthy. TENSION
events i know that was expanding and growing and just all.
This stuff is there an attitude because so many people
talk about. Doing something they got a, great idea wouldn't this?
Be great and four years to do? A podcast well you,
Know what necessity is the mother. Of invention but but
what is that with you that pushes you, to, go
yeah let's let's. Do it like to even try to present,
the idea to get, the space you got to pitch
the idea, to somebody there's a big chance to go
the fuck are?
Speaker 8: You?
Speaker 10: Nuts well, SO this, i mean this idea was Already
a it's funny that some of the ideas have been, from,
me yes other ideas have been from, other people Like
Rock holiday Village was jenna, my partner one of, Two
partners kelly's my. Mother partner that came. From her but
Like McCarthy Tents, and events was just like me, Being
like i'm gonna try to start my. Own company my
girlfriend at the time, was like she's the one THAT
suggested i should, do, It RIGHT so i.
Speaker 5: Don't know it's, just like, uh.
Speaker 2: Yeah but there's something ELSE that i don't think, you
know we KNOW or. I, know yeah people talk behind.
Your back do you own a museum.
Speaker 4: Of some sort?
Speaker 2: Now somewhere are you invested in The museum.
Speaker 10: I'm an, Investor in and it's not like it's not
a money, Making museum THAT'S what.
Speaker 5: I mean but the Punk, rock, Museum Yes.
Speaker 2: Las vegas so the Punk rock Museum In, las vegas
you're an? Investor, in yeah what WHAT if i? Go
There WHAT am i gonna find a.
Speaker 10: Lot of really cool punk rotter facts that that that
wouldn't matter to a lot, of people but people who
are into punk rockeba, holy, shit.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 10: Guitar yeah so the interesting thing About The Punk rock
Museum In las vegas, is well there's a lot, of
things but the two coolest things are one they have
a jam room where they have guitars or basses or
whatever from the bands that recorded these iconic albums with.
These instruments they're all set up. In there but then
it's like you go and it's like have. At it
grab the guitar and you can play like the Guitar
That tim armstrong Played on alco On The Walls, no
ship Like.
Speaker 5: From rancid you KNOW what.
Speaker 4: I mean that's. Very different it's.
Speaker 10: Really cool and they also do guided tours from huge.
Speaker 5: Names in the punk.
Speaker 10: Rock, world, okay yeah so, you go you go to,
the museum, you pay it's one hundred, dollars tour but
you can go tour WITH uh i think of. An,
example uh there's so Many Like, fat mike who's the
front of the Museum For. No effects you get a
full tour. From him but there's been, big names like
huge names have come, through There Like billy gibbons From
zz top has a love for. Punk Rock So billy
gibbons has done tours At The Punk rock museum where
he walks people through.
Speaker 2: The museum that's interesting because he's a fan is it not.
Speaker 10: A fan punk, rocker now but is always in. Punk
rock so Like Even billy gibbons like respected enough that,
He's like i'm gonna go give tours of the Punk.
Speaker 5: Rock museum how weird?
Speaker 2: Is that is? Very weird did you see it once
AND go i want to put money in or did somebody.
Speaker 10: Like it was just a, you know a different time
a couple of years AGO where i JUST like i could. Do,
It Yeah and i've loved like music has been such
part of my life and punk rock has been such
part of my life, throughout everything throughout like, growing, up,
college everything, Starting companies music's always just. Been there, AND
also I mean i think all music is kind of
like this fucking attitude like for people who like, rock
music punk rock more, than anything even though it's kind of,
like cliche but like the diy ethic of like. Doing
YOURSELF and i feel like being in a punk rock
maybe was part of the REASON why i started. A,
company yeah it's more and more so, my wife but
like being in a punk rock SO like i was,
just like you KNOW what i. CAN invent i can
just throw money at this thing and help them out
and get.
Speaker 5: It GOING and i just.
Speaker 2: Did it that's interesting Because Even joan jet When the runaways,
Broke Up.
Speaker 5: Jon Jets, jone jets Like leather jacket From the runaways
is At The Punk.
Speaker 2: Rock, museum okay that. Makes sense But SHE what i
always Loved About joan, jet was, you know be a
woman in rock in Nineteen eighty she couldn't get a,
record deal so she made. Her own she, people now
it's very easy to produce your own album and send it,
out there put it, on TikTok put, it anywhere and
there's a chance that people are gonna love it and you.
Could explode she didn't have any. Of that and, to
me that is the diy attitude that you're, talking ABOUT
which i. Find AMAZING but i often, think like, no fear,
no trepidation it, doesn't matter.
Speaker 4: It works it.
Speaker 2: Doesn't work, it's okay we're, trying something and this is
what we're. Gonna, Do, yeah yeah and you just go.
ALL in i go. ALL in I mean i. Have,
To YEAH but i mean The Rock holity village has
become a.
Speaker 4: Huge dude people. Love that that.
Speaker 5: Was, Awesome yeah and that, was like. IT'S weird, i man.
Speaker 10: It's weird like when we start, these things because EVEN
when i Started McCarthy Ttens, AND events i WAS like
i had monus goals and it's. Kept going like it
kept Going because i'm, just like let's, Do this let's,
do this let's. Do this, you know it's, just like
let's do the, next, thing right, you know LIKE when
i hired some of my best friends to work with,
my company we did under a million dollars.
Speaker 5: A year, you know it was like not it was a.
Small thing Then Rock.
Speaker 10: Holday village we're, just like let's just see how. It
goes and the first day we opened in, twenty eighteen
it was like you felt like you were In downtown
manhattan the first day, We, opened yeah because there was
enough hype, with it and it also coincided With The,
liberty pool like the whole parade, and everything and it
ended there and we're, Just like.
Speaker 2: I'm just kind of like take. It, in, wow yeah take.
Speaker 5: It in we didn't expect it to be. Quite.
Speaker 2: THIS yeah i Think the huchinani would. Be too what
what other things are your hands in that we don't?
Know about or do you not want to? SAY no
i can other.
Speaker 10: Fun things so ONE thing i talked about this on some,
other Podcasts Was. Evolution dome is This inflatable like, oh
yeah we talked, about yeah yeah a. Little bit yeah
yeah that like so that is a company out OF.
The uk they were like indoor like white. Inflatable products
now you know them as the larger igloo inns At The,
holiday village these large inflatable white domes that we color them.
Like white but they also have like smaller indoor products
that do like break out spaces for like trade, show
floors these inflatable Products that i've been with them for,
Seven years like we're the distributor IN. The, us yeah
we definitely got stunted for three YEARS, during covid so
we kind of like started to make things happen AND then.
Covid happened but so now it grew a little bit.
Speaker 5: The last couple.
Speaker 10: Of years but this last, six months like it is
crazy what's happening? With that where, we're like what is going?
On here so that's blowing. UP too a big part
of that is.
Speaker 4: Big.
Speaker 10: Meeting companies they do these, trade shows big budgets for
like Companies, like pfizer and they'll go into like these
huge hotels with convention like big convention halls and, all
that but they want private spaces to have little like twenty.
Person meetings so. Oh yep so, for years what these
companies do is they pay moving companies that come move
everything out of one hundred and fifty hotel rooms so
the hotel runs out. Of space but then they lose
revenue on the, hotel rooms so they have to charge
the customer or that they.
Speaker 5: Pate people to move stuff out of the hotel.
Speaker 10: Rooms right, into storage and then they decorate the rooms
and put like plants in them in a couple. Of
tables then they have these meetings for like, forty minutes
like all these little like and we have this product where,
we're like well we just do these like little blow
up inflatables where like you have these private meetings on
a trade. Show floor and now like companies like vis,
are like, holy shit like we're spending got like just
millions of dollars to like empty, hotel rooms deck them
out and all.
Speaker 5: This stuff so so that's, another, company yeah.
Speaker 2: Isn't it it's Right like danny like, where yeah like
the ballsiness of, all this let's. Just see but you're
one of these PEOPLE that i. Don't know failure is
not in even in The.
Speaker 5: No i'm totally open. A failure I think i'm gonna
fail any day of.
Speaker 3: THE week i.
Speaker 10: Really DO like I like i am all over the
map emotionally all.
Speaker 4: Right GOOD because i.
Speaker 5: Am too we feel, like YEAH like i.
Speaker 10: Some days, i'm like, HOLY shit i can't believe this
is like my big problem right now IS and i
tell it to my staff when we. Have meetings, i'm
like thank, you Everybody because i've been so Busy with
hoohstanny and then this dome evolution dome is kind of
like blowing up no pun intended and all these, other
Things and i'm like MOVING and Im like i'm in
between houses something in this weird phase Where like i'm
Living in airbnb in the village and we're waiting on
a house to. Be done so we're LIKE like i
just have craziness happening in. My Life but, I'M like,
I like i can't. BELIEVE that i like With McCarthy,
Tenson events i'm not involved in the day to day
sometimes and it just. Keeps going I'm like i'm just
waiting for it all to, blow up LIKE how i
feel Every day, I'M like i can't believe it still
GOES and I but i think everyone, Every day, i'm
like it's amazing with all THIS stuff i have going
On That i'm i'm building all, these things especially like
Hoo chin any is also an amazing thing For McCarthy
tenson events because, it creates, like sure a, symbatic Relationship.
Speaker 5: But, i'm LIKE am? I?
Speaker 4: Am?
Speaker 5: I am? I am i branching out?
Speaker 3: Too?
Speaker 2: Far sometimes would YOU get, i know you get your.
Hands dirty My son jordan did work for you and was, always,
Like yeah sean's on says stuff and he, knows yeah
and he knows and, loved it loved working for, You
GUYS and, i, GO yeah i guess that's what you.
Gotta do and if you, love it he usually works out.
Speaker 10: Just fine my biggest bummer right now and even, last
year like especially With Starting who's STANNY and I and
i love it and it's Awesome and i'm, all In
but i've not been able to go on the road,
as much even, like yesterday it was a horrible day
and we all like like like there's been a shit
just A shitty may and it was just pouring right
all day And like i'm Okay when i'm out on.
The road when IT'S when i know it's A nice sunday,
DAY out i don't feel bad about not being out
there with, my guys, but like what's horrible day? Is out, i'm,
LIKE dude i want to just be out there getting
crushed with THEM because i FEEL like i.
Speaker 2: Feel, Bad yeah i'll tell. You this the party that
you THREW so i Went as jordan's date that year.
WAS huge, i mean.
Speaker 5: People leave them with.
Speaker 4: Big prices it.
Speaker 5: Was insane it.
Speaker 4: Was insane it. Was great it.
Speaker 5: WAS great tv, IS.
Speaker 2: YEAH TVs i think, there words, air friars, people got
and all kinds. Of stuff what's the, Game. Tonight kevin
kevin's come up with a. New one we can.
Speaker 4: Call, it uh we'll call it rule. Of threes rule.
Speaker 2: Of threes i'll.
Speaker 4: Give you, three words and you got to give me
the common. Between them SO if i were, to Say Like, David, Gary, sammy.
Speaker 2: Yep, got it? Got, it okay, all right do we
need a little?
Speaker 5: SOMETHING there i got a.
Speaker 2: Little something right. Here there. We go look.
Speaker 4: At that the next one, is balloon tire.
Speaker 3: And bubble.
Speaker 4: It's the common alley between balloon tire and bubble?
Speaker 2: Got, It yeah i'm gonna crush.
Speaker 4: It this how, about banana rubber duck and? The, sun.
Speaker 5: Okay they'll have potassium.
Speaker 4: Hurricane human and, A needle hurricane humans and. A, needle yeah,
curtain fishermen, Nuclear reactor.
Speaker 2: Burton fishermen and a nuclear.
Speaker 4: About, computer party dip and. Poker, Game OKAY and i
got one more, one, last dentist oil field and basketball? Practice,
sucks dentist oil field and. Basketball practice what was the first?
Speaker 3: One again could you do? That, against balloon tire?
Speaker 4: And bubble?
Speaker 3: Got? IT okay.
Speaker 5: I felt really good about the, first FOUR and i
just the. Last one last two.
Speaker 2: Got ugly LAST one i.
Speaker 4: Can't, get okay balloon tire?
Speaker 5: Are?
Speaker 3: Bubbles air air?
Speaker 5: NEEDS air i said In the flates things that.
Speaker 2: Can, pop oh so we're, all wrong, all right things that.
Speaker 5: Can pop it's BULLSHIT that i.
Speaker 4: Say too inflat, OR air i would. Go, It, okay banana,
rubber duck and the sun all things that are?
Speaker 3: Yellow? Yellow yes didn't they do a story recently right
that the that the sun really, isn't yellow it's just
the way it comes through. THE atmosphere i.
Speaker 2: Don't know danny get it here.
Speaker 4: WE go i guess, you lose you don't get.
Speaker 3: TO play I got i put, yellow.
Speaker 5: Yellow it's, actually purple you know the way it.
Speaker 4: Comes true hurricane humans and a, needle.
Speaker 3: Curtain rod fishing And nuclear.
Speaker 4: Rod's, is correct, computer party dip and, poker games ships
and then dentist oil field and basketball.
Speaker 2: Practice drills, oh, ship good.
Speaker 4: Good, call wow that.
Speaker 10: WAS great, I said cavity to get weird?
Speaker 3: Was five?
Speaker 4: Very good, ALL right I think. I had I think
i only. Got four if he's not giving.
Speaker 2: Us the, First one.
Speaker 4: I'M not i.
Speaker 2: Went again damn fuck this smart ass over here.
Speaker 4: And.
Speaker 2: Negative attitude that's. Very nice, uh well, happy birthday get.
The tickets it's gonna be a big party and make
it great. Free day they actually do, make birthday.
Speaker 5: That's, right yeah it's.
Speaker 10: A bargain i mean we've SAID like, i mean we've
put a lot of thought into what. We're doing we,
have amazing, amazing sponsors and it allows us to do
ticket sales at a really, affordable price which, IT is
i mean fifty dollars a day less if you get
multiple days for the simple, GA pass i mean for
a full day like of action that's.
Speaker 2: Good stuff that's. Good stuff if.
Speaker 5: You want to spend a, little euxtra you can do the,
whiskey thing, if.
Speaker 4: Much just to See, jon jets which you would pay
a c mac right, with less probably more.
Speaker 2: With more unless you're on. The lawn what's? The point.
Speaker 10: No, like tonight No, good yeah, you know and even
EVEN The vip i'll tell you what. One THING the,
VIPs Passes, especially sunday. IT'S exciting i mean, they're moving.
THEY'RE moving i mean they WILL the via people will.
Speaker 5: Sell out that's.
Speaker 10: Really, EXCITING oh vip, is definitely it's crazy and like,
we're like, holy ship.
Speaker 4: You gotta get the folks FROM m j down There
on sunday for the for the jams right FROM m j. Oh,
dispensed yeah little tent up for them. Down, there yeah
that's it.
Speaker 5: Reached out.
Speaker 10: To us, I'M like i, don't, know man not non but,
like marijuana you CAN'T sell i guess there's so many
RULES and i don't know what the old, rules ARE
but i don't think you actually sell marijuana at. Festivals
yet but then they can have a. Presence There but
i'm kind, of like what's, the like like what's the.
Speaker 2: Point then can they give out? FREE samples i.
Speaker 4: Don't know letter get a piece? Of, chocolate.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Exactly Yeah and.
Speaker 5: I'm like we got a lot of vices. THERE already i,
don't know we don't.
Speaker 4: Need anymore, that's it?
Speaker 2: All, Right well happy Birthday to. Sean McCarthy carthy Tents.
And events danny on a, new game hang, ANOTHER banner,
i THINK so i think we got. TO retire i
think if you does not too Bad for i'll find
something you.
Speaker 3: Can win that some day not too bad for a bitter.
Speaker 2: Old, GUY no i didn't, say old, good bet but
we never said Oh next thursday, Beer chugging oh, You,
win yeah. You win i'm not, GOOD enough, I.
Speaker 4: Mean danny at, That One, bill moran we'll See.
Speaker 2: You monday see if they were looking for a kind
of Like with tanna see