Speaker 1: You're watching brand new Faces. I'm your host, Matt, and
Speaker 1: I'm joined tonight by a very special guest. Now, we
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Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, my guests for the evening, Raven the
Speaker 1: Milk Raven, thank you so much for coming on with me.
Speaker 1: I have to start with the third rut is question,
Speaker 1: and you are welcome to lie about it or tell
Speaker 1: the truth and shock everybody. That's your call. Okay. The
Speaker 1: first rude of question you can ask a woman. Don't
Speaker 1: answer these first two is are you pregnant? I've seen
Speaker 1: that in real life. A guy go, oh my god,
Speaker 1: are you pregnant? And they go goes, no, I'm not,
Speaker 1: and it's just disaster and meltdown. The second rudist question
Speaker 1: is how much do you weigh? And that's a rude question.
Speaker 1: I don't ask that. The third rudist question, and again,
Speaker 1: feel free to lie because no one cares. You are gorgeous.
Speaker 1: You could be one hundred and ten years old and
Speaker 1: people would still love you. Can I ask how old
Speaker 1: you are?
Speaker 2: Well, I'm fifty four.
Speaker 1: That is shocking. Yeah. I won't be a lievet fifty four.
Speaker 1: I just need that to be known. I will be.
Speaker 1: I will be a gravestone gathering moss at that point.
Speaker 1: So you look amazing for fifty.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much. I take care of myself.
Speaker 1: You do, I don't. There you go, there you go.
Speaker 1: I got nothing. I got nothing. Uh. I grew up
Speaker 1: listening to rap songs. I always start the show with
Speaker 1: these first two questions, and when they would go thirty
Speaker 1: six twenty four, da da da, I would go, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know what that means, but I bet she's hot.
Speaker 1: So I came up with my own type of numbers
Speaker 1: to kind of get a grasp on you. Can I
Speaker 1: ask you what your height is?
Speaker 2: Five floor and three quarters?
Speaker 1: Okay? Can I ask you what your cup size is
Speaker 1: other than enormous? Do they just write that on the
Speaker 1: bron or.
Speaker 2: No, they're thirty two double d's perfect.
Speaker 1: And for my foot guys out there, not necessarily my thing,
Speaker 1: but it is a huge thing. So can I ask
Speaker 1: what your shoe size is?
Speaker 2: Six and a half?
Speaker 1: Okay? You know what, I've been getting a lot of
Speaker 1: eights and eight and a half s lately, and I've
Speaker 1: been wondering, like, are they huge? Because again, I'm not
Speaker 1: a I wear thirteen.
Speaker 2: I have my foot, tiny, tiny, tiny little feet.
Speaker 1: That's what it seems like. Yeah, I need a little feet.
Speaker 2: I'm a tiny person.
Speaker 1: Okay, Raven, let me ask you. Let's get right into it.
Speaker 1: How did you initially decide to get into the adult
Speaker 1: entertainment industry? When did you take the step and go
Speaker 1: I've been vanilla for X amount of years, for this long,
Speaker 1: for this part of my life. Maybe you haven't even
Speaker 1: been vanilla part of your life, but you know you've
Speaker 1: lived outside of it, and now you're getting into the industry.
Speaker 1: Tell me how you decided to take that step.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, I'm fifty four, like I said, and
Speaker 2: since the age of twenty one, I've worked in the
Speaker 2: education field as a teacher. So I've been teaching quite
Speaker 2: a long time. Well, a situation happened about two years ago.
Speaker 2: It was very unfortunate, and it had nothing to do
Speaker 2: with the children at all. It was more so the
Speaker 2: administration where I was, and it showed me a lot
Speaker 2: of things about the school system. And there's a lot
Speaker 2: going on there that I can't I can't be part
Speaker 2: of it any longer. I can't watch what it's doing
Speaker 2: to our kids. It's it's it's it was killing my soul.
Speaker 2: And so I resigned, and I tried working a few
Speaker 2: different jobs. Just really wasn't making ends meet. My best
Speaker 2: friend had camped before and was telling me about camming.
Speaker 2: I had no idea what it was at all, and
Speaker 2: then he told me, you would really fit in the
Speaker 2: niche of milf and I said, what the heck is
Speaker 2: a milf? I didn't even know what the terminology was,
Speaker 2: and he told me. I was like, because I don't
Speaker 2: really see myself like that. I said, okay, whatever, So
Speaker 2: I got on one of the platforms and kind of
Speaker 2: dab it a little bit, and sure enough it was.
Speaker 2: It still freaks me out to say to day I
Speaker 2: fit the milk category and found out. I love being
Speaker 2: behind the camera. I'm I don't have any problem with it.
Speaker 2: I love to talk and I love to make people
Speaker 2: happy and smile. Obviously I want to fulfill their sexual desires,
Speaker 2: but at the same time, I want to make them smile.
Speaker 2: I want to make their heart feel happy. I want
Speaker 2: them to feel seen and feel heard, and I think
Speaker 2: that's really that's very important to me. And so this
Speaker 2: job is so much more than just a sex worker
Speaker 2: or a cam go or a cam girl or what
Speaker 2: have you. And I want to make somebody's day and
Speaker 2: I feel like I'm doing that. I'm making people's day better.
Speaker 1: So, you know, there's a lot of commentary in the
Speaker 1: news and just in society in general that you see
Speaker 1: about young men and we'll talk over eighteen in this
Speaker 1: and they're twenties who are maybe lost or lonely or
Speaker 1: confused or not knowing what to do in life. And
Speaker 1: a lot of people look at porn as like or
Speaker 1: any aspect of that as like, oh, it's terrible for them,
Speaker 1: And I won't say it's good for them. I'm sure
Speaker 1: there's a point where you have to.
Speaker 2: Go like, hey, this moderation.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, it's a nice glass of whiskey. It's great
Speaker 1: once a week. It's not so great once an hour
Speaker 1: every night when you get home from work. Right, So,
Speaker 1: but what they don't understand when they're looking at these
Speaker 1: young men and they're going like, oh, just get off
Speaker 1: of the point, get off of the chat sites, get
Speaker 1: off of whatever. Don't you know, go go out and
Speaker 1: meet people. People just don't necessarily do that anymore. So, yes,
Speaker 1: I understand, you're not gonna likely marry a guy from
Speaker 1: your chat room, unless, of course, maybe you're running a
Speaker 1: promotion that would be pretty cool, right, guys, go sign up,
Speaker 1: But you're not gonna marry guy. You're not gonna fall up.
Speaker 1: You could probably not, but at least you're giving them
Speaker 1: not just a sexy woman to look at. You're doing
Speaker 1: different things on your show but also just a companion
Speaker 1: to kind of like the confidence.
Speaker 2: You wouldn't believe how many younger men, very young, you know,
Speaker 2: obviously over eighteen, but still very young, that have issues
Speaker 2: with anxiety, that have issues with going into public, issues
Speaker 2: talking to girls. I mean, I've I've I've had so
Speaker 2: many conversations with young men about those things. You know.
Speaker 2: So it like you're saying it, it is a benefit
Speaker 2: to them, you know, because I'm giving them confidence, you know,
Speaker 2: and talking talking to them about how to talk to girls,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 1: Sure, so yeah, So I think when people make that
Speaker 1: argument in public, when they talk about how bad it
Speaker 1: this and that data, you're probably they're probably picturing the
Speaker 1: ten guy gang bangs on a girl who's getting tossed
Speaker 1: around like a rag doll. And that has its place
Speaker 1: and time, obviously, mostly after all those whiskeys I've had.
Speaker 1: But you know what they don't talk about is, yes,
Speaker 1: there's the chat aspect, which I've just delved into this
Speaker 1: last year, is so interesting that it can really you
Speaker 1: create companions, and people will are you, oh, but that's
Speaker 1: not a real thing. Well, what do you want them
Speaker 1: to do? Just sit there quietly then and like never
Speaker 1: meet women never interact with women, never learn how to
Speaker 1: talk to them. I'm sorry we wait in a different way,
Speaker 1: but I think it's important to kind of talk about
Speaker 1: that stuff.
Speaker 2: It really is and it's so much, it's so much
Speaker 2: more than people understand. I think you know, so the
Speaker 2: people are quick to assume. You know, their perceptions of
Speaker 2: things are skewed, and you know their realities based on
Speaker 2: their perceptions which aren't necessarily actual, realistic and true perceptions.
Speaker 2: You know if they were in my chat room. If
Speaker 2: anyone comes to my room, you will see firsthand, you
Speaker 2: know that it's a comfortable place to be and you
Speaker 2: will feel free to talk about whatever it is you
Speaker 2: want to talk about.
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you go to a room raven old school
Speaker 1: eleven on chatterbait, make sure you follow her or give
Speaker 1: all the likes, tip a whole bunch if it's payday Ravens.
Speaker 1: So talk me through. You go from being a teacher
Speaker 1: to now Your job is at the time when you
Speaker 1: transitioned and decided to start doing this, your job is
Speaker 1: taking clothes off on the internet. How that first time
Speaker 1: you jump into that chat room and go live? Are
Speaker 1: you petrified? Are you excited? Are you How do you
Speaker 1: feel going into that.
Speaker 2: H To be honest, at first, I felt really bad
Speaker 2: about myself. I've felt because I wasn't looking at it
Speaker 2: like I look at it now, and I had no
Speaker 2: experience doing anything like this, So I was terrified and
Speaker 2: I did feel pretty bad about myself. But then you know,
Speaker 2: I understand now, you know it's a little bit. It's
Speaker 2: a lot different than what I initially thought.
Speaker 1: So yeah, stuff like that, you always kind of it's
Speaker 1: one of those things where you have to stick your
Speaker 1: feet in it. I guess it's the term, I don't
Speaker 1: know for the foot fetish guys out there. You have
Speaker 1: to put your feet in it first and kind of
Speaker 1: start to feel it. But it's not just the initial shock.
Speaker 1: It's like you're learning something new. I assume all the time,
Speaker 1: either what guys are interested in now.
Speaker 2: And let me tell you this, I have never had
Speaker 2: body confidence at all.
Speaker 1: Why are you blind?
Speaker 2: Or I just don't I just never You know, I
Speaker 2: was an abuse of relationship for over twenty years, so
Speaker 2: at the time a couple of years ago when I resigned,
Speaker 2: I had just gotten myself out of that relationship, and
Speaker 2: so all these compliments come flooding in, you know, my
Speaker 2: first few times, and it freaks me out. I'm like,
Speaker 2: what what are they talking about? Why are so many people?
Speaker 2: What are the i you know? And it still blows
Speaker 2: me away. And man, I'll tell you, I I could
Speaker 2: feel I could wake up feeling like the other leaves
Speaker 2: duckling on are just down in the dumps. I get
Speaker 2: on that cam and these these guys and it's not
Speaker 2: just the compliments you know, of you're so hot and
Speaker 2: that things like that. It's just just other really nice things.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: I feel so comfortable with you, I can talk with you,
Speaker 2: and they just they have nothing but nice things to say.
Speaker 2: I mean, over the past year and a half, I
Speaker 2: think I've had maybe to read comments at the most
Speaker 2: and uh so, But I'm so comfortable now and I'm
Speaker 2: so thankful that I've had this experience. And you know,
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lie. It's it's a struggle. It's hard,
Speaker 2: but I'm I'm gonna stick with it. I'm gonna give
Speaker 2: it my all. I'm gonna do everything I can to
Speaker 2: be successful because this is a deal. I'm fifty four
Speaker 2: years old. Grapy's taken over. Hey, these girls don't stand
Speaker 2: up the way they used to all right, I don't
Speaker 2: know how long I'm gonna be able to do this,
Speaker 2: so I need to right while the iron's hot. So
Speaker 2: just so, I'm gonna do this until I can't do
Speaker 2: it anymore physically, you know.
Speaker 1: So I I get you saying until you can't do
Speaker 1: it anymore physically. Totally understand that. Can I tell you
Speaker 1: what my most successful episode is this last year? D D.
Speaker 1: White formally Sakah Black is a performer. She is seventy
Speaker 1: one years old. She no, she's in better shape than
Speaker 1: I'll ever be in my life. Like that's just that's
Speaker 1: how it is. Okay, she get arm rustle me now
Speaker 1: and beat the shit out of me, I'm sure. But
Speaker 1: she has her she has an old I don't know
Speaker 1: how to say this nicely, her head. If you just
Speaker 1: looked at her head, you'd be like, oh, Grandma, there's grandma.
Speaker 1: How are you doing, Grandma?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have a nice grandma look sure.
Speaker 1: And then you pan down and see the four black
Speaker 1: guys she's working with with foot long penises, and uh,
Speaker 1: you go, good for you, D D. White? So so
Speaker 1: what that tells me? And it's been my most successful
Speaker 1: episode of the year, Like I had her on. I
Speaker 1: loved it. I thought it was interesting. But the fans
Speaker 1: that flock to this, so I'll say this, you look amazing,
Speaker 1: especially for fifty four. You look amazing for forty two.
Speaker 1: But even as you age, just the piece of advice,
Speaker 1: don't lose that confidence. What I've learned from doing this
Speaker 1: for so long is there is there's there's a girl
Speaker 1: out there that I would probably I'm not naming anyone.
Speaker 1: I'm making up a hypothetical. I would throw up if
Speaker 1: I saw this person naked. This person can have a
Speaker 1: successful only fans if they market it the right way,
Speaker 1: if they're genuine, if they talk to people and interact
Speaker 1: and you know, not cross lines, but definitely, like you know,
Speaker 1: create environments where people want to go. And it sounds
Speaker 1: like that's what you're kind of trying to work towards. Yes,
Speaker 1: it's a job. You want to make money, but it
Speaker 1: doesn't sound like you want to quote unquote rob guys
Speaker 1: like you.
Speaker 2: Now, I just want to be able to pay my bills.
Speaker 2: I'm not looking to get rich off this at all.
Speaker 2: I just want to be able to pay my bills,
Speaker 2: you know, totally again, and uh, you know it, you
Speaker 2: know I'm just gonna keep plugging away, you know. I mean,
Speaker 2: it gets better and better every month.
Speaker 1: So so let me ask were you and maybe you
Speaker 1: weren't because it sounded like a big change for you.
Speaker 1: Were you into? I'm not ripping you on this, but
Speaker 1: it's funny that you didn't know what milf meant, because
Speaker 1: that's just been in the vernacular for twenty five years
Speaker 1: at this point, like the American pie movies.
Speaker 2: Stood for mother in law freak. That's whold has thought
Speaker 2: it stood for for the past fifty years. I had
Speaker 2: no idea mother I'd like to I didn't know that.
Speaker 1: It's so funny my friend when he texts me about
Speaker 1: his mother in law, I keep going, he left the
Speaker 1: elf the f off at the end there. I don't
Speaker 1: know what this is. M I l what are we
Speaker 1: talking about here? Drew? So were you? Were you at
Speaker 1: all into?
Speaker 2: I've always liked porn?
Speaker 1: And I asked the question.
Speaker 2: Yep, I've always liked watching porn. Yes, I mean not
Speaker 2: uh an unnaturally uh reoccurring situation, but once in a while. Yeah,
Speaker 2: And you know, I don't have that. I've never had
Speaker 2: any problems with that at all. Uh. As far as
Speaker 2: me being the naked in front of people. Of course,
Speaker 2: you know, that was that that was definitely a difficult thing,
Speaker 2: like we had discussed. But yeah, you know, I've always
Speaker 2: I've always thought it was just it's natural. Sex is
Speaker 2: a very natural thing. We are sexual beings. Sure, you know,
Speaker 2: I think a woman's body I'm not gay, but a
Speaker 2: woman's body is beautiful. It's absolutely gorgeous. I mean, sorry, guys, y'all,
Speaker 2: y'all look good too. I'm not gonna lie, but a
Speaker 2: woman's body, oh my gosh.
Speaker 1: You know, yeah, I get it. Yeah, That's why I've
Speaker 1: never delved the other way because I look at dudes
Speaker 1: and I go, even the hottest guy I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 1: but he probably stinks sometimes too, though, So I don't
Speaker 1: love that. Uh so, how did you get over? You
Speaker 1: were not? No fear? I don't know what's the right
Speaker 1: word interpretation.
Speaker 2: Customers, they you know, they just they're so kind and
Speaker 2: they just really helped me build my confidence.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: And I'm thinking, well, if this many people are telling
Speaker 2: you this, that maybe maybe there's some truth to it.
Speaker 2: And then they like me, they're liking what they're getting.
Speaker 2: I'm going to I want to continue making them happy
Speaker 2: and so I just kind of started grabbing onto things
Speaker 2: that I noticed were working and building off that and
Speaker 2: then letting go of things that maybe weren't working so well.
Speaker 2: And so it just it just kind of it's like
Speaker 2: a fluid thing, you know, where I just trying to
Speaker 2: grasp on to those things that are working and build
Speaker 2: upon that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so give me something that does work and doesn't work.
Speaker 1: What's something you banished? You're like, I don't do this anymore,
Speaker 1: whether it's talking or if you do a game or
Speaker 1: what do you think?
Speaker 2: Well again, game of who who has the longest calm street? Yeah,
Speaker 2: we don't. We don't do that game anymore because there's
Speaker 2: really no way to measure. We've had some arguments and
Speaker 2: situations where the customers have and I had the longest one. No,
Speaker 2: I had the longest one, and you know, so I
Speaker 2: banished that. I'm like, Okay, we're not playing that game
Speaker 2: guys anymore. That's it. And that's a silly thing. But
Speaker 2: that's just one little thing that I vanished from the room.
Speaker 1: What's something that has worked that you're like, oh shit,
Speaker 1: that was a hit. I'm gonna keep going with that.
Speaker 2: Basically just asking them questions like a fetish questions, for instance,
Speaker 2: asking them, Okay, guys, so what fetish do you want
Speaker 2: to talk about today? Or let's talk about fetishes. What
Speaker 2: are some fetishes that might interest you that you want
Speaker 2: to know more about? But you're kind of you've been
Speaker 2: kind of hesitant to really let yourself or allow yourself
Speaker 2: to go there because a lot of people have fetishes
Speaker 2: about different things. It could be panty sniffing, it could
Speaker 2: be a nose fetish, People have fetishes about another people
Speaker 2: have fetishes. There's so many things that they will blow
Speaker 2: your way and you probably know, but it blows a
Speaker 2: lot of people's minds that there's a lot of king
Speaker 2: shout there and fetishes, and I encourage people to talk
Speaker 2: about those things. There are shadows self. They're the darker
Speaker 2: part of our persona, and we're taught that we stay
Speaker 2: away from that and to banish that. And it's bad,
Speaker 2: and no, it's not bad, and it's okay, and you're
Speaker 2: not a bad person. If you have a fetish about
Speaker 2: an older woman and you're relating it to your mom,
Speaker 2: it's okay. Actually that's completely normal. To be honest with you,
Speaker 2: If you look at psychology, I could go off about that.
Speaker 2: But you know, psychologically speaking, and if you're looking at
Speaker 2: feudy and psychology, you know you will find there are
Speaker 2: complexes mother complexes. Your mother is the first one that
Speaker 2: Veggie breastmilk for crying out loud. I mean, you know,
Speaker 2: and these so a lot of these guys are thinking
Speaker 2: there's something wrong with me? Why do I you know,
Speaker 2: and just kind of encouraging to talk about these things
Speaker 2: on camera and they don't know the other people in
Speaker 2: the room. But then then they might look and see, oh, okay,
Speaker 2: they're interested in this fetish. I m too, and we
Speaker 2: just kind of bounce ideas around it and get a
Speaker 2: little bit more into that and talk about that.
Speaker 1: If I can be honest about my correc a podcast.
Speaker 1: You stole my line. It's so funny where I was
Speaker 1: about to say, you look like I was literally about
Speaker 1: to say it sounds like you should start a podcast
Speaker 1: because the second half of my thing is a lot
Speaker 1: of fetish question. Let me ask you this, was there
Speaker 1: anything you learned from talking to these guys? Not learned,
Speaker 1: but is there anything you picked up on fetish wise
Speaker 1: or kink wise where you you go? That's kind of interesting.
Speaker 1: I never thought I might like that before. But the
Speaker 1: description of this, yeah, intriguing.
Speaker 2: Being submissive, being degraded. Oh man, I never not me.
Speaker 2: I never thought in a million years I would ever
Speaker 2: be turned on by anything like that. Well, doing this,
Speaker 2: incorporating the things that I've learned into my personal life,
Speaker 2: I've come to realize I really enjoy being submissive and
Speaker 2: I enjoy being kind of degraded and called names. It's
Speaker 2: now in a normal situation, not a sexual situation. I
Speaker 2: will uk somebody up, hey, don't you call me a
Speaker 2: damn name? But in a sexual situation, it's totally different.
Speaker 2: It's it's it's it's insane, you know.
Speaker 1: Can I can I play the role of you are
Speaker 1: in psychology, but I have a film degree, So let
Speaker 1: me just switch them real quick and ask you. And
Speaker 1: this is too personal, don't you know? Is it? Uh?
Speaker 1: Do you think you had a fear of engaging in
Speaker 1: that because of the relationship you had been in before?
Speaker 2: Oh? For sure? Okay, do you think for sure in
Speaker 2: the way the way I was called the names, you know,
Speaker 2: in the situations, Uh, yeah, for sure. Now it's it's
Speaker 2: it's so different, you know, because it comes from such
Speaker 2: a different place, you know, I love it when he
Speaker 2: calls me his dirty little whore.
Speaker 1: I was just gonna say, there's a huge difference between Raven,
Speaker 1: You're a fucking slut and raising You're my little slut? Tonight,
Speaker 1: aren't you like that? You know what I mean? Just
Speaker 1: tone and context, it all makes sense. Yeah, I get it.
Speaker 1: I get it. Is there anything you've just been? No
Speaker 1: offense to them, and as long as it's legal, you know,
Speaker 1: they're fine to do it. But is there any fetish
Speaker 1: that's popped up where you've just been like, oh, you
Speaker 1: may need to seek help, Like maybe you don't say
Speaker 1: it out loud, but you may be like, hey, hey buddy.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes there is. It's the toilet licking, licking the
Speaker 2: inside rim of the toilet. I can't. I just can't
Speaker 2: do it. Not, I can't.
Speaker 1: Didn't want you to do it?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 1: Oh no, no, no, See it's funny. I immediately went
Speaker 1: to like, I don't. I don't even like cleaning the toilet,
Speaker 1: Like why would I want to lick it?
Speaker 2: Yes, licking the inside rim of the toilet, drinking my
Speaker 2: own urine, eating my own secs. I cannot do. I
Speaker 2: will not. I cannot, And there's no amount of money
Speaker 2: that could ever change my mind on that.
Speaker 1: When I first started the show and I was talking
Speaker 1: to mainstream performers, I would do a game called sac
Speaker 1: shit Animals, kids, and the idea was, tell me something
Speaker 1: you're not interested in, a fetish or whatever, but we're
Speaker 1: just going to eliminate those three because initially I would
Speaker 1: be like, you know, so, what's something you know you're
Speaker 1: definitely not interested in pursue And they would be like, well,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't fuck a dog, can I be like, yeah,
Speaker 1: if you, I wouldn't be on zoom with you, Like,
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm gonna hang up now if you're iffy
Speaker 1: on that one. So that's fair. Shit is the one
Speaker 1: that's like closest, but I would be so disgusted by it, Like,
Speaker 1: you know, it's not kids or animals. Yeah, but it's
Speaker 1: just so it just doesn't do it. And if you
Speaker 1: like it out there, you're more than welcome to like it.
Speaker 1: I guess maybe you should look into that. I don't know,
Speaker 1: enjoy some cumshots once in a while, but no.
Speaker 2: One that ish a lot of people have is this one.
Speaker 1: Smoking.
Speaker 2: A lot of people have a smoking fetish. They like
Speaker 2: to watch me stay suck on a dildo while I'm smoking,
Speaker 2: while I'm babing.
Speaker 1: Can I tell you something I'm gonna get in trouble? Good?
Speaker 1: Good thing. My wife, who produces this show doesn't listen.
Speaker 1: I like that too. And when we used to smoke
Speaker 1: real cigarettes and it was h Yeah, I would get
Speaker 1: I would be the dildo on this and it was
Speaker 1: so hot. You know, everyone's dying in this situation, like
Speaker 1: we're all just rotting our lungs. But something something that.
Speaker 2: Works well on cam. Yeah, they should break up the monotony.
Speaker 2: I'll just kind of start sucking on my dildo and
Speaker 2: vaping and that gets attention real quick.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Uh, let me jump into some of those not
Speaker 1: so much fetish, it's just more interests. You said, you're
Speaker 1: you're not a lesbian, you're not gay. But are you
Speaker 1: into women at all? Or just you admire them from afar?
Speaker 2: I could be depending on the on the person. Sure, okay,
Speaker 2: I mean you know I've been attracted to women before.
Speaker 2: Sure you know I've been with a woman before. So okay,
Speaker 2: all right, I'm not against it for sure.
Speaker 1: Totally understand. Uh. Let me ask you to rank these
Speaker 1: three from favorite to least. Okay, swallowing facials, cream.
Speaker 2: Pies, facial swallowing cream pies.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, now is that what's the reason Do
Speaker 1: you have a reasoning for why you like those? Let
Speaker 1: me just tell you the common one. Cream pie is
Speaker 1: always number one. So by the way, I love you,
Speaker 1: and uh yeah, it's always number one. But here's the argument.
Speaker 2: And as I'll get it, I can't see I want
Speaker 2: to see him back off. I want to see it. Come,
Speaker 2: I want to see him.
Speaker 3: Come.
Speaker 2: I don't, I can't see it. If it's I want
Speaker 2: to see.
Speaker 1: It, just marry me. I mean that's all. I'm just kidding.
Speaker 2: I want to see it.
Speaker 1: Do you want to know the most enraging argument that
Speaker 1: every porn star gives me when they say cream pie
Speaker 1: number one? And look from a dude's perspective, I look
Speaker 1: at I totally don't get it. The argument. I always hear, well,
Speaker 1: the cleanup's easiest, and I'm like, oh my gosh, I'm like,
Speaker 1: we didn't get all dialed up here to be clean
Speaker 1: clean up.
Speaker 2: I want to leave it. And that's number three. And
Speaker 2: but even that being said, like I don't even want
Speaker 2: to like hurry up and clean it up, because like
Speaker 2: you know and also another benefit for number one, it's
Speaker 2: so good for your hair on just the face and
Speaker 2: it's protein.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: No, but seriously, the turn on for me is watching
Speaker 2: these guys you know. I say, these guys Mike or
Speaker 2: who I'm with, you know, come to me.
Speaker 1: It's like you want to race. And then before you
Speaker 1: got your trophy, you kind of just went to your
Speaker 1: car and left and you're like, all right, I'll see
Speaker 1: you later. No, no, no, get your trophy, ladies.
Speaker 2: Right exactly, exactly exactly. You worked hard for that. Colm,
Speaker 2: Come on, pitch.
Speaker 1: It to your wives that way. Listeners, Okay, say you
Speaker 1: get your trophy and then truphy, your RIF will tell
Speaker 1: you go back to listening to your podcast. Stupid, And
Speaker 1: that's what the wife will say. What about okay, last
Speaker 1: one in this interested what is your current working relationship
Speaker 1: with anal? Are you on good terms? Are you terrified
Speaker 1: of animal as it? I like to what is the
Speaker 1: term anthromortalize? What is the thing when you take an
Speaker 1: animal make it human characteristics?
Speaker 2: Who are personification?
Speaker 1: Okay? So I like to pretend anal is like a
Speaker 1: person and we're either arguing with them or a friend
Speaker 1: with them.
Speaker 2: That is what kind of animal is anal to you?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 1: A bear, which actually makes me sound kind of gay,
Speaker 1: but I'm alright with that. I'm behind the bear though,
Speaker 1: if that makes it any better. So it's a.
Speaker 2: Million to me. It's always changing because it depends on
Speaker 2: my mood. It's totally because the anal's feet. What is
Speaker 2: it this fink? Victor? Thank you that those muscles. In
Speaker 2: order to have them relaxed and for it to be enjoyable,
Speaker 2: I have to be in a certain mood. I have
Speaker 2: to be in a certain place mentally, completely and totally relaxed.
Speaker 2: And sometimes I am and I can do it, and
Speaker 2: but then sometimes I'm not and I can't.
Speaker 1: You know, interesting, Yeah, no, I get it. Can I
Speaker 1: ask you what your favorite sexual position is?
Speaker 2: I like to be on Well, I like to be
Speaker 2: on top, even though I'm submitted, I do. I do
Speaker 2: like to be on top. But I also like to
Speaker 2: be on my stomach flat, you know, on the bed,
Speaker 2: with hands around my neck pulling my hair.
Speaker 1: Okay, what is your least favorite sexual A guy goes, hey,
Speaker 1: can we do this?
Speaker 2: And you go, yeah, missionary, So just on the back
Speaker 2: with the legs up.
Speaker 1: You don't want to look deeply into someone's eyes as
Speaker 1: they slowly and romantic. Yeah, no, put your hands around
Speaker 1: my neck.
Speaker 2: Yeah, help me out, pull my hener flap me give
Speaker 2: me a little flat.
Speaker 1: Raven. If the opportunity came along where a site were
Speaker 1: to present to you a contract, a deal whatever to
Speaker 1: actually shoot a scene, oh tell yeah, that is something
Speaker 1: you would be interested in, persue.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh man, that would be amazing. Are you
Speaker 2: kidding me? That'd be freaking fantastic.
Speaker 1: Do you think you'd become to be working with like
Speaker 1: another I don't let me yes, let me pause all
Speaker 1: that and let me ask you about your only fans
Speaker 1: real quick. That way, your only fan everything you're trying
Speaker 1: to do. What type of content are we going to
Speaker 1: be producing? Is it strictly solo with you? Which is
Speaker 1: totally fine and a lot of people love that. Is it?
Speaker 2: It is solo right now? And that's only because I'm
Speaker 2: a very reclusive person. I do not go I don't
Speaker 2: I just simply don't go out. I have a lot
Speaker 2: of anxiety and PTSD from the abuse that I that
Speaker 2: I did encounter, and so I literally just stay at home.
Speaker 2: You know. I have a few really close friends that
Speaker 2: for their own personal reasons choose not to be, you know,
Speaker 2: on cam with me, and I get it. So it's
Speaker 2: solo for me right now. I mean I have offers,
Speaker 2: tons of offers every day, you know, we'll all cam
Speaker 2: with you. Well I want to, And okay, you know
Speaker 2: that that's great now, And it's not that it's all
Speaker 2: about the money. But if someone came to me with
Speaker 2: an actual binding contract that's a legal document, and actually
Speaker 2: money's going to actually exchange hands, I'm down sure, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean. This is a it is it
Speaker 2: is a job, you know, and I am looking to
Speaker 2: support myself from this, so that that would be amazing
Speaker 2: and I wouldn't have a problem with that at all.
Speaker 1: What if it was a not so much a company,
Speaker 1: but a only fans performed like an established you know,
Speaker 1: good references male only fans performers, like, Hey, I'll come
Speaker 1: out to you, we'll shoot a scene. We'll both post
Speaker 1: it up for whatever. It would be a collaboration. No
Speaker 1: set money right off the bat, but we'll both post
Speaker 1: it on our thing. I'll give you publicity and what
Speaker 1: we sell, we make. You'd be comfortable with something like that.
Speaker 2: I would be comfortable with it, Yes, and especially if
Speaker 2: they are able to help with the shooting. You know,
Speaker 2: that's because I'm I'm That's where I lack experience is
Speaker 2: is I'm taking all my own pictures. I'm doing this
Speaker 2: all myself, all all my own, you know, not just
Speaker 2: I just started the only fans and whatnot. So I'm
Speaker 2: just kind of starting to try to figure all this
Speaker 2: out and flesh it all out. And it's it's hard
Speaker 2: because I think I don't feel like I take pictures well,
Speaker 2: you know, so if someone with experience could come out
Speaker 2: and do that, that would be amazing.
Speaker 1: Well again, if you're a listener to this, because we
Speaker 1: actually do have industry people that listen, reach out.
Speaker 2: Please be job, Please help me all.
Speaker 1: The work you're Raven the Mill sixty nine on Twitter
Speaker 1: is where I would recommend reaching out. But you never know,
Speaker 1: hit me up and I'll talk to whatever. We'll figure
Speaker 1: it out. I just want to see Raven hear work
Speaker 1: because she has the right attitude from all the people
Speaker 1: I've met on this show. Again, it's a it sucks
Speaker 1: to say this. It's a job.
Speaker 2: It is, and it's not an easy job. It's really
Speaker 2: not it. This is not an easy job. People have
Speaker 2: no idea. The amount of hours that that we put in,
Speaker 2: and we you just kind of keep plugging away. You know,
Speaker 2: you're building your own brand, and it's hard. It's hard
Speaker 2: doing it on your own.
Speaker 1: That that was actually my next question to you is
Speaker 1: did you realize how much back end work was involved
Speaker 1: in all of this?
Speaker 2: No, not at all.
Speaker 1: So many at all, So many gorgeous women come in
Speaker 1: and they go like, I'll show up on set, I'll
Speaker 1: get fucked, I'll colleck my fifty thousand dollars for this
Speaker 1: gang bang and then go home, and it's just not huh.
Speaker 2: No, oh no, no, I've never had that. I've never
Speaker 2: been able to do anything like that. I mean, it's great,
Speaker 2: it's great scrap scratch to get by, you know, work
Speaker 2: to the grindstone to get every penny that I can,
Speaker 2: you know, totally. I don't want to talk to about
Speaker 2: the camsites too much, I know, but it's uh, you know,
Speaker 2: they're they're token values there, you know, and as a
Speaker 2: model I get I sense a token. So someone tips
Speaker 2: you five cents, You've got to get a lot of
Speaker 2: five cent tokens. Do you pay a house note or
Speaker 2: a car note or an electric mail you know, and
Speaker 2: so the content on OnlyFans and whatnot. I really want
Speaker 2: I really would like to get the subscription base going
Speaker 2: and be able to make those people happy. You know,
Speaker 2: they're gonna get a lot for that subscription price. You know.
Speaker 1: You know I was just listening. You're one hundred percent
Speaker 1: right up? What I Okay? All right, here's what I
Speaker 1: love about talking to you about this again, Like going
Speaker 1: back to what I said, you treat it like a job.
Speaker 1: And I've talked to a lot of women who are
Speaker 1: in the industry and they're gorgeous and they're working, and
Speaker 1: they almost just kind of like brush it off, like, oh,
Speaker 1: this is a you know whatever. I don't care about
Speaker 1: that because they've already made their money. Right. Well, I'm
Speaker 1: not saying it's a good I wish you were rich,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like, I wish you chose
Speaker 1: not to do. But that's part of the that's part
Speaker 1: of the thing. When you have somebody who is treating
Speaker 1: this like a job, who's treating this like almost a career,
Speaker 1: You're going to get content from them. You're going to
Speaker 1: get updates.
Speaker 2: You disciplined because they're disciplined right.
Speaker 1: Right, Whereas you may have a hot girl who updates
Speaker 1: you know her only fans once every three months and
Speaker 1: chats every goes in chatterbase or wherever every two months
Speaker 1: or something.
Speaker 2: And yeah, you'll have to write a schedule and stick
Speaker 2: to it, you know. That's been That's been one of
Speaker 2: my biggest names, was realizing this. I have to be
Speaker 2: very structured and very disciplined for this to work. I've
Speaker 2: did up and this is what has to happen, damn
Speaker 2: vam vam in this order. And I try to do
Speaker 2: that every day. It's stick to that, you know.
Speaker 1: Sure, So we're actually coming to the end here. This
Speaker 1: is how fast it went by. I have I have
Speaker 1: to I tell this is why her room is so
Speaker 1: much fun, folks, Okay, because she loves to talk and
Speaker 1: she's good at doing it. This is an odd question,
Speaker 1: but I asked us to everyone, and again it's not
Speaker 1: at all judgmental. I just like to see where people's
Speaker 1: brains are with this. And the answers from like mainstream
Speaker 1: performers have been really really surprising to me. What should
Speaker 1: the age be that women are allowed to get into porno?
Speaker 2: I would say twenty three, twenty four.
Speaker 3: Okay, that's I have helped, it would help the current
Speaker 3: people that are in the porn industry because the majority
Speaker 3: of people are so young.
Speaker 2: It it's saturated. Its completely saturated, and I think that
Speaker 2: they may possibly be getting themselves into something that they're
Speaker 2: not realizing how it's going to affect them later. And
Speaker 2: like because when they go to college and they graduate
Speaker 2: with that batchelor's or a doctorate or whatever and try
Speaker 2: to get that job, they're gonna find out what they've
Speaker 2: done and it may be a problem for them. So
Speaker 2: I feel like, you know, they shouldn't be allowed to
Speaker 2: do any kind of sex work like that, not at
Speaker 2: at least until they're twenty three at twenty four.
Speaker 1: So the consensus answer that I've kind of come to
Speaker 1: with a lot of these performers is a lot of
Speaker 1: them some of them even started at eighteen and they
Speaker 1: say twenty one. But we kind of came to a
Speaker 1: nice little middle ground, right, because there's also the reverse
Speaker 1: or the inverse argument of that, where you go, sixteen
Speaker 1: year old girl gets kicked out of her house, she
Speaker 1: has nowhere to live. She turns eighteen a couple of
Speaker 1: years after they're living on the street and is able
Speaker 1: to start a career out of that. There have been
Speaker 1: stories about that.
Speaker 2: But then she's also going to get these guys that
Speaker 2: are gonna want to do these meetups and that offer her,
Speaker 2: you know, money for meetups, and it's going to be
Speaker 2: very it's going to look really good to her. And
Speaker 2: you know, that young, being that young, and that Naid
Speaker 2: going to a strange place. You know, I can see
Speaker 2: bad things happening.
Speaker 1: I've heard bad things have happened, like I've heard those.
Speaker 1: But the kind of the thing that we came to
Speaker 1: while still being like pro porn industry and pro women
Speaker 1: and this and that was and this is from the
Speaker 1: mainstream girls more eighteen to twenty one, and again I
Speaker 1: understand your point too. Sorry for throwing my hands at
Speaker 1: the camera so much. I understand your point too about
Speaker 1: it carries on forever and this and that. But if
Speaker 1: you're really dead it, you're really in it. Eighteen to
Speaker 1: twenty one solo, just solo, just by yourself shooting content.
Speaker 2: I like that.
Speaker 1: Twenty one maybe twenty three, like you're saying, then you
Speaker 1: could start working for companies shooting scenes. It gives you
Speaker 1: some time to build a business sense of that.
Speaker 2: And figure out if that's really the way you want
Speaker 2: to go hunt.
Speaker 1: But then you know the problem with that.
Speaker 2: Is but you're already out there then yeah.
Speaker 1: But the problem with it really is maturity, because there
Speaker 1: are eighteen year olds that are one hundred times more
Speaker 1: mature than I am. There's eighteen year olds who can
Speaker 1: have one drink. Okay, Matt can't, So Manch just doesn't anymore.
Speaker 1: I think I'll just refer to myself in the third
Speaker 1: person from now on. But but I totally get that
Speaker 1: argument too. It's tough to make, you know, the case.
Speaker 1: My view is, if you can join the military at eighteen,
Speaker 1: you should be able to shoot solo stuff if you
Speaker 1: need to.
Speaker 2: I don't need to, right, you know. I mean they
Speaker 2: might live in a town where there's nothing around and
Speaker 2: it can't work, and that's the only way that they can,
Speaker 2: you know, make money. So different situations, you.
Speaker 1: Know, and look at yourself. I would never begrudge someone
Speaker 1: who needs to make money. I really wouldn't, because it's like,
Speaker 1: what are you gonna do? This is the world we
Speaker 1: live in, right, So Raven, before we go, what last question?
Speaker 1: What is the end goal? Is it to make this
Speaker 1: a full career? Is it to pay off that house
Speaker 1: and corner and then leave or okay.
Speaker 2: I you know, I would like to pay off my mortgage,
Speaker 2: my car note, and be able to just pay my bills,
Speaker 2: make ends meet, you know. And I'm a very naturistic
Speaker 2: type person. I really love nature. I'd like to maybe
Speaker 2: move to the mountains and build a log cabin one day,
Speaker 2: just live peacefully. Maybe even maybe have them and shine
Speaker 2: steal or something in the back down the hall or
Speaker 2: you know. Now I'm just kidding, uh kind of sort
Speaker 2: of not really, but I just I just want I
Speaker 2: just want to be happy. And unfortunately in the world
Speaker 2: we live in, in this whirl cage, in the hamster wheel,
Speaker 2: whatever you want to call it, that we live in,
Speaker 2: and we've we've got to work and make money, you know.
Speaker 2: I mean there are so many benefits, you know, to
Speaker 2: to working from home, to be able to work from
Speaker 2: home and make money, but just being able to pay
Speaker 2: the bills as all as my main goal.
Speaker 1: Totally get it, Totally get it, folks. If you are
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Speaker 2: Thank you