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<v Speaker 1>You're watching brand new Faces. I'm your host, Matt, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm joined tonight by a very special guest. Now, we

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<v Speaker 1>just had a discussion before the show started about link tree,

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<v Speaker 1>so we are gonna try and make sure by the

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<v Speaker 1>time this episode comes out. You can go right to

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<v Speaker 1>the link tree in the episode description. But before then,

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<v Speaker 1>if we've not set that up yet, I want to

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<v Speaker 1>direct you to my guest's links. On Twitter, you can

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<v Speaker 1>find her at Raven the mil Milf sixty nine. On

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<v Speaker 1>Loyal Fans, you can find her at Raven the Milf.

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<v Speaker 1>On strip Chat you can find her at Raven the Milf, Chatterbait,

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<v Speaker 1>Raven Old School eleven. And if it's payday just hit

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<v Speaker 1>and you're trying to decide between do I want to

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<v Speaker 1>get my kids braces or do I want to sign

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<v Speaker 1>up for an OnlyFans. I have a suggestion for you.

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<v Speaker 1>Your kids will get along with Crooked Teeth. It's totally fine.

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<v Speaker 1>Head on over to OnlyFans at Raven the sixty nine.

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<v Speaker 1>Ladies and gentlemen, my guests for the evening, Raven the

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<v Speaker 1>Milk Raven, thank you so much for coming on with me.

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<v Speaker 1>I have to start with the third rut is question,

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<v Speaker 1>and you are welcome to lie about it or tell

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<v Speaker 1>the truth and shock everybody. That's your call. Okay. The

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<v Speaker 1>first rude of question you can ask a woman. Don't

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<v Speaker 1>answer these first two is are you pregnant? I've seen

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<v Speaker 1>that in real life. A guy go, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>are you pregnant? And they go goes, no, I'm not,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's just disaster and meltdown. The second rudist question

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<v Speaker 1>is how much do you weigh? And that's a rude question.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't ask that. The third rudist question, and again,

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<v Speaker 1>feel free to lie because no one cares. You are gorgeous.

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<v Speaker 1>You could be one hundred and ten years old and

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<v Speaker 1>people would still love you. Can I ask how old

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<v Speaker 1>you are?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm fifty four.

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<v Speaker 1>That is shocking. Yeah. I won't be a lievet fifty four.

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<v Speaker 1>I just need that to be known. I will be.

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<v Speaker 1>I will be a gravestone gathering moss at that point.

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<v Speaker 1>So you look amazing for fifty.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you so much. I take care of myself.

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<v Speaker 1>You do, I don't. There you go, there you go.

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<v Speaker 1>I got nothing. I got nothing. Uh. I grew up

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<v Speaker 1>listening to rap songs. I always start the show with

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<v Speaker 1>these first two questions, and when they would go thirty

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<v Speaker 1>six twenty four, da da da, I would go, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what that means, but I bet she's hot.

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<v Speaker 1>So I came up with my own type of numbers

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<v Speaker 1>to kind of get a grasp on you. Can I

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<v Speaker 1>ask you what your height is?

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<v Speaker 2>Five floor and three quarters?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay? Can I ask you what your cup size is

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<v Speaker 1>other than enormous? Do they just write that on the

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<v Speaker 1>bron or.

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<v Speaker 2>No, they're thirty two double d's perfect.

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<v Speaker 1>And for my foot guys out there, not necessarily my thing,

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<v Speaker 1>but it is a huge thing. So can I ask

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<v Speaker 1>what your shoe size is?

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<v Speaker 2>Six and a half?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay? You know what, I've been getting a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>eights and eight and a half s lately, and I've

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<v Speaker 1>been wondering, like, are they huge? Because again, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>a I wear thirteen.

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<v Speaker 2>I have my foot, tiny, tiny, tiny little feet.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what it seems like. Yeah, I need a little feet.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a tiny person.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Raven, let me ask you. Let's get right into it.

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<v Speaker 1>How did you initially decide to get into the adult

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<v Speaker 1>entertainment industry? When did you take the step and go

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<v Speaker 1>I've been vanilla for X amount of years, for this long,

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<v Speaker 1>for this part of my life. Maybe you haven't even

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<v Speaker 1>been vanilla part of your life, but you know you've

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<v Speaker 1>lived outside of it, and now you're getting into the industry.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell me how you decided to take that step.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, I'm fifty four, like I said, and

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<v Speaker 2>since the age of twenty one, I've worked in the

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<v Speaker 2>education field as a teacher. So I've been teaching quite

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<v Speaker 2>a long time. Well, a situation happened about two years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>It was very unfortunate, and it had nothing to do

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<v Speaker 2>with the children at all. It was more so the

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<v Speaker 2>administration where I was, and it showed me a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of things about the school system. And there's a lot

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<v Speaker 2>going on there that I can't I can't be part

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<v Speaker 2>of it any longer. I can't watch what it's doing

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<v Speaker 2>to our kids. It's it's it's it was killing my soul.

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<v Speaker 2>And so I resigned, and I tried working a few

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<v Speaker 2>different jobs. Just really wasn't making ends meet. My best

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<v Speaker 2>friend had camped before and was telling me about camming.

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<v Speaker 2>I had no idea what it was at all, and

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<v Speaker 2>then he told me, you would really fit in the

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<v Speaker 2>niche of milf and I said, what the heck is

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<v Speaker 2>a milf? I didn't even know what the terminology was,

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<v Speaker 2>and he told me. I was like, because I don't

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<v Speaker 2>really see myself like that. I said, okay, whatever, So

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<v Speaker 2>I got on one of the platforms and kind of

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<v Speaker 2>dab it a little bit, and sure enough it was.

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<v Speaker 2>It still freaks me out to say to day I

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<v Speaker 2>fit the milk category and found out. I love being

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<v Speaker 2>behind the camera. I'm I don't have any problem with it.

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<v Speaker 2>I love to talk and I love to make people

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<v Speaker 2>happy and smile. Obviously I want to fulfill their sexual desires,

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<v Speaker 2>but at the same time, I want to make them smile.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to make their heart feel happy. I want

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<v Speaker 2>them to feel seen and feel heard, and I think

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<v Speaker 2>that's really that's very important to me. And so this

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<v Speaker 2>job is so much more than just a sex worker

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<v Speaker 2>or a cam go or a cam girl or what

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<v Speaker 2>have you. And I want to make somebody's day and

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like I'm doing that. I'm making people's day better.

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<v Speaker 1>So, you know, there's a lot of commentary in the

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<v Speaker 1>news and just in society in general that you see

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<v Speaker 1>about young men and we'll talk over eighteen in this

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<v Speaker 1>and they're twenties who are maybe lost or lonely or

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<v Speaker 1>confused or not knowing what to do in life. And

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people look at porn as like or

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<v Speaker 1>any aspect of that as like, oh, it's terrible for them,

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<v Speaker 1>And I won't say it's good for them. I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>there's a point where you have to.

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<v Speaker 2>Go like, hey, this moderation.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes, it's a nice glass of whiskey. It's great

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<v Speaker 1>once a week. It's not so great once an hour

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<v Speaker 1>every night when you get home from work. Right, So,

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<v Speaker 1>but what they don't understand when they're looking at these

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<v Speaker 1>young men and they're going like, oh, just get off

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<v Speaker 1>of the point, get off of the chat sites, get

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<v Speaker 1>off of whatever. Don't you know, go go out and

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<v Speaker 1>meet people. People just don't necessarily do that anymore. So, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I understand, you're not gonna likely marry a guy from

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<v Speaker 1>your chat room, unless, of course, maybe you're running a

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<v Speaker 1>promotion that would be pretty cool, right, guys, go sign up,

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<v Speaker 1>But you're not gonna marry guy. You're not gonna fall up.

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<v Speaker 1>You could probably not, but at least you're giving them

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<v Speaker 1>not just a sexy woman to look at. You're doing

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<v Speaker 1>different things on your show but also just a companion

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<v Speaker 1>to kind of like the confidence.

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<v Speaker 2>You wouldn't believe how many younger men, very young, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>obviously over eighteen, but still very young, that have issues

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<v Speaker 2>with anxiety, that have issues with going into public, issues

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<v Speaker 2>talking to girls. I mean, I've I've I've had so

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<v Speaker 2>many conversations with young men about those things. You know.

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<v Speaker 2>So it like you're saying it, it is a benefit

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<v Speaker 2>to them, you know, because I'm giving them confidence, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and talking talking to them about how to talk to girls,

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<v Speaker 2>you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, so yeah, So I think when people make that

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<v Speaker 1>argument in public, when they talk about how bad it

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<v Speaker 1>this and that data, you're probably they're probably picturing the

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<v Speaker 1>ten guy gang bangs on a girl who's getting tossed

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<v Speaker 1>around like a rag doll. And that has its place

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<v Speaker 1>and time, obviously, mostly after all those whiskeys I've had.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know what they don't talk about is, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>there's the chat aspect, which I've just delved into this

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<v Speaker 1>last year, is so interesting that it can really you

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<v Speaker 1>create companions, and people will are you, oh, but that's

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<v Speaker 1>not a real thing. Well, what do you want them

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<v Speaker 1>to do? Just sit there quietly then and like never

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<v Speaker 1>meet women never interact with women, never learn how to

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<v Speaker 1>talk to them. I'm sorry we wait in a different way,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think it's important to kind of talk about

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<v Speaker 1>that stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>It really is and it's so much, it's so much

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<v Speaker 2>more than people understand. I think you know, so the

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<v Speaker 2>people are quick to assume. You know, their perceptions of

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<v Speaker 2>things are skewed, and you know their realities based on

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<v Speaker 2>their perceptions which aren't necessarily actual, realistic and true perceptions.

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<v Speaker 2>You know if they were in my chat room. If

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<v Speaker 2>anyone comes to my room, you will see firsthand, you

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<v Speaker 2>know that it's a comfortable place to be and you

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<v Speaker 2>will feel free to talk about whatever it is you

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<v Speaker 2>want to talk about.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, if you go to a room raven old school

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<v Speaker 1>eleven on chatterbait, make sure you follow her or give

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<v Speaker 1>all the likes, tip a whole bunch if it's payday Ravens.

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<v Speaker 1>So talk me through. You go from being a teacher

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<v Speaker 1>to now Your job is at the time when you

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<v Speaker 1>transitioned and decided to start doing this, your job is

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<v Speaker 1>taking clothes off on the internet. How that first time

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<v Speaker 1>you jump into that chat room and go live? Are

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<v Speaker 1>you petrified? Are you excited? Are you How do you

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<v Speaker 1>feel going into that.

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<v Speaker 2>H To be honest, at first, I felt really bad

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<v Speaker 2>about myself. I've felt because I wasn't looking at it

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<v Speaker 2>like I look at it now, and I had no

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<v Speaker 2>experience doing anything like this, So I was terrified and

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<v Speaker 2>I did feel pretty bad about myself. But then you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I understand now, you know it's a little bit. It's

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<v Speaker 2>a lot different than what I initially thought.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, stuff like that, you always kind of it's

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<v Speaker 1>one of those things where you have to stick your

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<v Speaker 1>feet in it. I guess it's the term, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know for the foot fetish guys out there. You have

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<v Speaker 1>to put your feet in it first and kind of

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<v Speaker 1>start to feel it. But it's not just the initial shock.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like you're learning something new. I assume all the time,

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<v Speaker 1>either what guys are interested in now.

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<v Speaker 2>And let me tell you this, I have never had

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<v Speaker 2>body confidence at all.

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<v Speaker 1>Why are you blind?

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<v Speaker 2>Or I just don't I just never You know, I

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<v Speaker 2>was an abuse of relationship for over twenty years, so

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<v Speaker 2>at the time a couple of years ago when I resigned,

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<v Speaker 2>I had just gotten myself out of that relationship, and

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<v Speaker 2>so all these compliments come flooding in, you know, my

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<v Speaker 2>first few times, and it freaks me out. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>what what are they talking about? Why are so many people?

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<v Speaker 2>What are the i you know? And it still blows

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<v Speaker 2>me away. And man, I'll tell you, I I could

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<v Speaker 2>feel I could wake up feeling like the other leaves

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<v Speaker 2>duckling on are just down in the dumps. I get

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<v Speaker 2>on that cam and these these guys and it's not

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<v Speaker 2>just the compliments you know, of you're so hot and

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<v Speaker 2>I feel so comfortable with you, I can talk with you,

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<v Speaker 2>and they just they have nothing but nice things to say.

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<v Speaker 1>So I I get you saying until you can't do

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<v Speaker 1>what my most successful episode is this last year? D D.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll ever be in my life. Like that's just that's

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<v Speaker 1>And then you pan down and see the four black

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<v Speaker 1>guys she's working with with foot long penises, and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you go, good for you, D D. White? So so

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<v Speaker 1>what that tells me? And it's been my most successful

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<v Speaker 1>episode of the year, Like I had her on. I

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<v Speaker 1>loved it. I thought it was interesting. But the fans

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<v Speaker 1>that flock to this, so I'll say this, you look amazing,

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<v Speaker 1>especially for fifty four. You look amazing for forty two.

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<v Speaker 1>But even as you age, just the piece of advice,

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<v Speaker 1>don't lose that confidence. What I've learned from doing this

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<v Speaker 1>for so long is there is there's there's a girl

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<v Speaker 1>out there that I would probably I'm not naming anyone.

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, not cross lines, but definitely, like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>create environments where people want to go. And it sounds

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<v Speaker 1>like that's what you're kind of trying to work towards. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a job. You want to make money, but it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't sound like you want to quote unquote rob guys

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<v Speaker 1>like you.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, I just want to be able to pay my bills.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not looking to get rich off this at all.

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<v Speaker 2>I just want to be able to pay my bills,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, totally again, and uh, you know it, you

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<v Speaker 2>know I'm just gonna keep plugging away, you know. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>So so let me ask were you and maybe you

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<v Speaker 1>weren't because it sounded like a big change for you.

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<v Speaker 1>Were you into? I'm not ripping you on this, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's funny that you didn't know what milf meant, because

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<v Speaker 1>that's just been in the vernacular for twenty five years

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<v Speaker 1>at this point, like the American pie movies.

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<v Speaker 2>Stood for mother in law freak. That's whold has thought

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<v Speaker 2>it stood for for the past fifty years. I had

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<v Speaker 2>no idea mother I'd like to I didn't know that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so funny my friend when he texts me about

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<v Speaker 1>his mother in law, I keep going, he left the

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<v Speaker 1>know what this is. M I l what are we

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<v Speaker 1>talking about here? Drew? So were you? Were you at

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<v Speaker 1>all into?

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<v Speaker 2>I've always liked porn?

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<v Speaker 1>And I asked the question.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep, I've always liked watching porn. Yes, I mean not

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<v Speaker 2>uh an unnaturally uh reoccurring situation, but once in a while. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, I don't have that. I've never had

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<v Speaker 2>any problems with that at all. Uh. As far as

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<v Speaker 2>me being the naked in front of people. Of course,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, that was that that was definitely a difficult thing,

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<v Speaker 2>like we had discussed. But yeah, you know, I've always

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<v Speaker 2>I've always thought it was just it's natural. Sex is

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<v Speaker 2>a very natural thing. We are sexual beings. Sure, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I think a woman's body I'm not gay, but a

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<v Speaker 2>woman's body is beautiful. It's absolutely gorgeous. I mean, sorry, guys, y'all,

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<v Speaker 2>y'all look good too. I'm not gonna lie, but a

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<v Speaker 2>woman's body, oh my gosh.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, yeah, I get it. Yeah, That's why I've

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<v Speaker 1>never delved the other way because I look at dudes

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<v Speaker 1>and I go, even the hottest guy I'm like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but he probably stinks sometimes too, though, So I don't

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<v Speaker 1>love that. Uh so, how did you get over? You

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<v Speaker 1>were not? No fear? I don't know what's the right

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<v Speaker 1>word interpretation.

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<v Speaker 2>Customers, they you know, they just they're so kind and

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<v Speaker 2>they just really helped me build my confidence.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm thinking, well, if this many people are telling

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<v Speaker 2>you this, that maybe maybe there's some truth to it.

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<v Speaker 2>And then they like me, they're liking what they're getting.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to I want to continue making them happy

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<v Speaker 2>and so I just kind of started grabbing onto things

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<v Speaker 2>that I noticed were working and building off that and

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<v Speaker 2>then letting go of things that maybe weren't working so well.

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<v Speaker 2>And so it just it just kind of it's like

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<v Speaker 2>a fluid thing, you know, where I just trying to

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<v Speaker 2>grasp on to those things that are working and build

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<v Speaker 2>upon that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so give me something that does work and doesn't work.

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<v Speaker 1>What's something you banished? You're like, I don't do this anymore,

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<v Speaker 1>whether it's talking or if you do a game or

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<v Speaker 1>what do you think?

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<v Speaker 2>Well again, game of who who has the longest calm street? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>we don't. We don't do that game anymore because there's

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<v Speaker 2>really no way to measure. We've had some arguments and

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<v Speaker 2>situations where the customers have and I had the longest one. No,

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<v Speaker 2>I had the longest one, and you know, so I

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<v Speaker 2>banished that. I'm like, Okay, we're not playing that game

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<v Speaker 2>guys anymore. That's it. And that's a silly thing. But

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<v Speaker 2>that's just one little thing that I vanished from the room.

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<v Speaker 1>What's something that has worked that you're like, oh shit,

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<v Speaker 1>that was a hit. I'm gonna keep going with that.

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<v Speaker 2>Basically just asking them questions like a fetish questions, for instance,

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<v Speaker 2>asking them, Okay, guys, so what fetish do you want

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<v Speaker 2>to talk about today? Or let's talk about fetishes. What

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<v Speaker 2>are some fetishes that might interest you that you want

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<v Speaker 2>to know more about? But you're kind of you've been

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<v Speaker 2>kind of hesitant to really let yourself or allow yourself

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<v Speaker 2>to go there because a lot of people have fetishes

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<v Speaker 2>about different things. It could be panty sniffing, it could

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<v Speaker 2>be a nose fetish, People have fetishes about another people

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<v Speaker 2>have fetishes. There's so many things that they will blow

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<v Speaker 2>your way and you probably know, but it blows a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of people's minds that there's a lot of king

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<v Speaker 2>shout there and fetishes, and I encourage people to talk

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<v Speaker 2>about those things. There are shadows self. They're the darker

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<v Speaker 2>part of our persona, and we're taught that we stay

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<v Speaker 2>away from that and to banish that. And it's bad,

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<v Speaker 2>and no, it's not bad, and it's okay, and you're

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<v Speaker 2>not a bad person. If you have a fetish about

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<v Speaker 2>an older woman and you're relating it to your mom,

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<v Speaker 2>it's okay. Actually that's completely normal. To be honest with you,

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<v Speaker 2>If you look at psychology, I could go off about that.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, psychologically speaking, and if you're looking at

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<v Speaker 2>feudy and psychology, you know you will find there are

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<v Speaker 2>complexes mother complexes. Your mother is the first one that

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<v Speaker 2>Veggie breastmilk for crying out loud. I mean, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and these so a lot of these guys are thinking

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<v Speaker 2>there's something wrong with me? Why do I you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and just kind of encouraging to talk about these things

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<v Speaker 2>on camera and they don't know the other people in

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<v Speaker 2>the room. But then then they might look and see, oh, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>they're interested in this fetish. I m too, and we

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<v Speaker 2>just kind of bounce ideas around it and get a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit more into that and talk about that.

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<v Speaker 1>If I can be honest about my correc a podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>You stole my line. It's so funny where I was

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<v Speaker 1>about to say, you look like I was literally about

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<v Speaker 1>to say it sounds like you should start a podcast

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<v Speaker 1>because the second half of my thing is a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of fetish question. Let me ask you this, was there

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<v Speaker 1>anything you learned from talking to these guys? Not learned,

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<v Speaker 1>but is there anything you picked up on fetish wise

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<v Speaker 1>or kink wise where you you go? That's kind of interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>I never thought I might like that before. But the

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<v Speaker 1>description of this, yeah, intriguing.

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<v Speaker 2>Being submissive, being degraded. Oh man, I never not me.

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<v Speaker 2>I never thought in a million years I would ever

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<v Speaker 2>be turned on by anything like that. Well, doing this,

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<v Speaker 2>incorporating the things that I've learned into my personal life,

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<v Speaker 2>I've come to realize I really enjoy being submissive and

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<v Speaker 2>I enjoy being kind of degraded and called names. It's

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<v Speaker 2>now in a normal situation, not a sexual situation. I

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<v Speaker 2>will uk somebody up, hey, don't you call me a

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<v Speaker 2>damn name? But in a sexual situation, it's totally different.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's it's it's insane, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Can I can I play the role of you are

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<v Speaker 1>in psychology, but I have a film degree, So let

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<v Speaker 1>me just switch them real quick and ask you. And

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<v Speaker 1>this is too personal, don't you know? Is it? Uh?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think you had a fear of engaging in

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<v Speaker 1>that because of the relationship you had been in before?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh? For sure? Okay, do you think for sure in

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<v Speaker 2>the way the way I was called the names, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>in the situations, Uh, yeah, for sure. Now it's it's

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<v Speaker 2>it's so different, you know, because it comes from such

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<v Speaker 2>a different place, you know, I love it when he

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<v Speaker 1>I was just gonna say, there's a huge difference between Raven,

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<v Speaker 1>You're a fucking slut and raising You're my little slut? Tonight,

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<v Speaker 1>aren't you like that? You know what I mean? Just

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<v Speaker 1>tone and context, it all makes sense. Yeah, I get it.

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<v Speaker 1>I get it. Is there anything you've just been? No

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<v Speaker 1>offense to them, and as long as it's legal, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they're fine to do it. But is there any fetish

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<v Speaker 1>that's popped up where you've just been like, oh, you

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<v Speaker 1>may need to seek help, Like maybe you don't say

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<v Speaker 1>it out loud, but you may be like, hey, hey buddy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes there is. It's the toilet licking, licking the

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<v Speaker 2>inside rim of the toilet. I can't. I just can't

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<v Speaker 2>do it. Not, I can't.

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<v Speaker 1>Didn't want you to do it?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no, no, no, See it's funny. I immediately went

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<v Speaker 1>to like, I don't. I don't even like cleaning the toilet,

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<v Speaker 1>Like why would I want to lick it?

418
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<v Speaker 2>Yes, licking the inside rim of the toilet, drinking my

419
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<v Speaker 2>own urine, eating my own secs. I cannot do. I

420
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<v Speaker 2>will not. I cannot, And there's no amount of money

421
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<v Speaker 2>that could ever change my mind on that.

422
00:22:38.279 --> 00:22:40.480
<v Speaker 1>When I first started the show and I was talking

423
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<v Speaker 1>to mainstream performers, I would do a game called sac

424
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<v Speaker 1>shit Animals, kids, and the idea was, tell me something

425
00:22:47.279 --> 00:22:50.240
<v Speaker 1>you're not interested in, a fetish or whatever, but we're

426
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<v Speaker 1>just going to eliminate those three because initially I would

427
00:22:53.680 --> 00:22:55.319
<v Speaker 1>be like, you know, so, what's something you know you're

428
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<v Speaker 1>definitely not interested in pursue And they would be like, well,

429
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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't fuck a dog, can I be like, yeah,

430
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<v Speaker 1>if you, I wouldn't be on zoom with you, Like,

431
00:23:02.319 --> 00:23:04.279
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm gonna hang up now if you're iffy

432
00:23:04.359 --> 00:23:07.839
<v Speaker 1>on that one. So that's fair. Shit is the one

433
00:23:07.839 --> 00:23:11.319
<v Speaker 1>that's like closest, but I would be so disgusted by it, Like,

434
00:23:11.400 --> 00:23:14.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's not kids or animals. Yeah, but it's

435
00:23:14.480 --> 00:23:17.000
<v Speaker 1>just so it just doesn't do it. And if you

436
00:23:17.160 --> 00:23:19.880
<v Speaker 1>like it out there, you're more than welcome to like it.

437
00:23:20.000 --> 00:23:23.039
<v Speaker 1>I guess maybe you should look into that. I don't know,

438
00:23:23.319 --> 00:23:26.920
<v Speaker 1>enjoy some cumshots once in a while, but no.

439
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<v Speaker 2>One that ish a lot of people have is this one.

440
00:23:30.920 --> 00:23:31.359
<v Speaker 1>Smoking.

441
00:23:34.400 --> 00:23:37.880
<v Speaker 2>A lot of people have a smoking fetish. They like

442
00:23:37.960 --> 00:23:42.279
<v Speaker 2>to watch me stay suck on a dildo while I'm smoking,

443
00:23:42.599 --> 00:23:43.279
<v Speaker 2>while I'm babing.

444
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<v Speaker 1>Can I tell you something I'm gonna get in trouble? Good?

445
00:23:47.599 --> 00:23:50.240
<v Speaker 1>Good thing. My wife, who produces this show doesn't listen.

446
00:23:50.839 --> 00:23:54.160
<v Speaker 1>I like that too. And when we used to smoke

447
00:23:54.200 --> 00:23:57.279
<v Speaker 1>real cigarettes and it was h Yeah, I would get

448
00:23:57.720 --> 00:23:59.599
<v Speaker 1>I would be the dildo on this and it was

449
00:24:00.359 --> 00:24:03.480
<v Speaker 1>so hot. You know, everyone's dying in this situation, like

450
00:24:03.519 --> 00:24:06.640
<v Speaker 1>we're all just rotting our lungs. But something something that.

451
00:24:06.640 --> 00:24:10.039
<v Speaker 2>Works well on cam. Yeah, they should break up the monotony.

452
00:24:10.119 --> 00:24:12.559
<v Speaker 2>I'll just kind of start sucking on my dildo and

453
00:24:12.640 --> 00:24:15.000
<v Speaker 2>vaping and that gets attention real quick.

454
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Uh, let me jump into some of those not

455
00:24:19.240 --> 00:24:22.880
<v Speaker 1>so much fetish, it's just more interests. You said, you're

456
00:24:23.039 --> 00:24:24.839
<v Speaker 1>you're not a lesbian, you're not gay. But are you

457
00:24:24.920 --> 00:24:28.000
<v Speaker 1>into women at all? Or just you admire them from afar?

458
00:24:28.519 --> 00:24:31.759
<v Speaker 2>I could be depending on the on the person. Sure, okay,

459
00:24:31.839 --> 00:24:35.200
<v Speaker 2>I mean you know I've been attracted to women before.

460
00:24:35.599 --> 00:24:39.119
<v Speaker 2>Sure you know I've been with a woman before. So okay,

461
00:24:39.200 --> 00:24:42.000
<v Speaker 2>all right, I'm not against it for sure.

462
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<v Speaker 1>Totally understand. Uh. Let me ask you to rank these

463
00:24:45.039 --> 00:24:49.759
<v Speaker 1>three from favorite to least. Okay, swallowing facials, cream.

464
00:24:49.519 --> 00:24:52.240
<v Speaker 2>Pies, facial swallowing cream pies.

465
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<v Speaker 1>Okay, all right, now is that what's the reason Do

466
00:24:55.799 --> 00:24:58.079
<v Speaker 1>you have a reasoning for why you like those? Let

467
00:24:58.160 --> 00:25:00.440
<v Speaker 1>me just tell you the common one. Cream pie is

468
00:25:00.480 --> 00:25:03.279
<v Speaker 1>always number one. So by the way, I love you,

469
00:25:03.759 --> 00:25:07.240
<v Speaker 1>and uh yeah, it's always number one. But here's the argument.

470
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<v Speaker 2>And as I'll get it, I can't see I want

471
00:25:10.240 --> 00:25:13.279
<v Speaker 2>to see him back off. I want to see it. Come,

472
00:25:13.400 --> 00:25:14.440
<v Speaker 2>I want to see him.

473
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<v Speaker 3>Come.

474
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<v Speaker 2>I don't, I can't see it. If it's I want

475
00:25:19.160 --> 00:25:19.720
<v Speaker 2>to see.

476
00:25:19.480 --> 00:25:21.880
<v Speaker 1>It, just marry me. I mean that's all. I'm just kidding.

477
00:25:24.119 --> 00:25:25.240
<v Speaker 2>I want to see it.

478
00:25:25.400 --> 00:25:27.880
<v Speaker 1>Do you want to know the most enraging argument that

479
00:25:28.000 --> 00:25:30.119
<v Speaker 1>every porn star gives me when they say cream pie

480
00:25:30.240 --> 00:25:32.440
<v Speaker 1>number one? And look from a dude's perspective, I look

481
00:25:32.440 --> 00:25:37.680
<v Speaker 1>at I totally don't get it. The argument. I always hear, well,

482
00:25:37.680 --> 00:25:40.839
<v Speaker 1>the cleanup's easiest, and I'm like, oh my gosh, I'm like,

483
00:25:40.880 --> 00:25:43.160
<v Speaker 1>we didn't get all dialed up here to be clean

484
00:25:43.680 --> 00:25:44.200
<v Speaker 1>clean up.

485
00:25:44.519 --> 00:25:47.680
<v Speaker 2>I want to leave it. And that's number three. And

486
00:25:47.799 --> 00:25:50.079
<v Speaker 2>but even that being said, like I don't even want

487
00:25:50.119 --> 00:25:52.119
<v Speaker 2>to like hurry up and clean it up, because like

488
00:25:53.319 --> 00:25:58.279
<v Speaker 2>you know and also another benefit for number one, it's

489
00:25:58.359 --> 00:26:01.880
<v Speaker 2>so good for your hair on just the face and

490
00:26:02.160 --> 00:26:03.079
<v Speaker 2>it's protein.

491
00:26:03.559 --> 00:26:03.839
<v Speaker 1>Right.

492
00:26:04.160 --> 00:26:07.440
<v Speaker 2>No, but seriously, the turn on for me is watching

493
00:26:07.599 --> 00:26:11.680
<v Speaker 2>these guys you know. I say, these guys Mike or

494
00:26:11.799 --> 00:26:14.920
<v Speaker 2>who I'm with, you know, come to me.

495
00:26:15.160 --> 00:26:17.720
<v Speaker 1>It's like you want to race. And then before you

496
00:26:17.759 --> 00:26:19.599
<v Speaker 1>got your trophy, you kind of just went to your

497
00:26:19.599 --> 00:26:21.720
<v Speaker 1>car and left and you're like, all right, I'll see

498
00:26:21.720 --> 00:26:24.240
<v Speaker 1>you later. No, no, no, get your trophy, ladies.

499
00:26:24.599 --> 00:26:29.519
<v Speaker 2>Right exactly, exactly exactly. You worked hard for that. Colm,

500
00:26:29.960 --> 00:26:31.559
<v Speaker 2>Come on, pitch.

501
00:26:31.359 --> 00:26:34.079
<v Speaker 1>It to your wives that way. Listeners, Okay, say you

502
00:26:34.400 --> 00:26:37.799
<v Speaker 1>get your trophy and then truphy, your RIF will tell

503
00:26:37.799 --> 00:26:40.319
<v Speaker 1>you go back to listening to your podcast. Stupid, And

504
00:26:40.359 --> 00:26:45.079
<v Speaker 1>that's what the wife will say. What about okay, last

505
00:26:45.079 --> 00:26:49.599
<v Speaker 1>one in this interested what is your current working relationship

506
00:26:49.680 --> 00:26:52.799
<v Speaker 1>with anal? Are you on good terms? Are you terrified

507
00:26:52.839 --> 00:26:55.759
<v Speaker 1>of animal as it? I like to what is the

508
00:26:55.839 --> 00:26:59.640
<v Speaker 1>term anthromortalize? What is the thing when you take an

509
00:26:59.640 --> 00:27:01.680
<v Speaker 1>animal make it human characteristics?

510
00:27:01.680 --> 00:27:03.039
<v Speaker 2>Who are personification?

511
00:27:03.359 --> 00:27:05.880
<v Speaker 1>Okay? So I like to pretend anal is like a

512
00:27:05.920 --> 00:27:08.160
<v Speaker 1>person and we're either arguing with them or a friend

513
00:27:08.160 --> 00:27:08.359
<v Speaker 1>with them.

514
00:27:08.519 --> 00:27:10.400
<v Speaker 2>That is what kind of animal is anal to you?

515
00:27:11.000 --> 00:27:11.160
<v Speaker 3>Uh?

516
00:27:12.000 --> 00:27:14.720
<v Speaker 1>A bear, which actually makes me sound kind of gay,

517
00:27:14.880 --> 00:27:21.079
<v Speaker 1>but I'm alright with that. I'm behind the bear though,

518
00:27:21.119 --> 00:27:23.119
<v Speaker 1>if that makes it any better. So it's a.

519
00:27:23.039 --> 00:27:25.799
<v Speaker 2>Million to me. It's always changing because it depends on

520
00:27:25.839 --> 00:27:30.920
<v Speaker 2>my mood. It's totally because the anal's feet. What is

521
00:27:30.960 --> 00:27:35.559
<v Speaker 2>it this fink? Victor? Thank you that those muscles. In

522
00:27:35.680 --> 00:27:38.440
<v Speaker 2>order to have them relaxed and for it to be enjoyable,

523
00:27:38.559 --> 00:27:41.079
<v Speaker 2>I have to be in a certain mood. I have

524
00:27:41.160 --> 00:27:45.440
<v Speaker 2>to be in a certain place mentally, completely and totally relaxed.

525
00:27:45.920 --> 00:27:48.319
<v Speaker 2>And sometimes I am and I can do it, and

526
00:27:48.319 --> 00:27:50.440
<v Speaker 2>but then sometimes I'm not and I can't.

527
00:27:50.799 --> 00:27:54.319
<v Speaker 1>You know, interesting, Yeah, no, I get it. Can I

528
00:27:54.359 --> 00:27:56.680
<v Speaker 1>ask you what your favorite sexual position is?

529
00:27:57.759 --> 00:28:00.279
<v Speaker 2>I like to be on Well, I like to be

530
00:28:00.359 --> 00:28:04.000
<v Speaker 2>on top, even though I'm submitted, I do. I do

531
00:28:04.160 --> 00:28:06.119
<v Speaker 2>like to be on top. But I also like to

532
00:28:06.160 --> 00:28:10.400
<v Speaker 2>be on my stomach flat, you know, on the bed,

533
00:28:10.440 --> 00:28:14.519
<v Speaker 2>with hands around my neck pulling my hair.

534
00:28:14.839 --> 00:28:19.119
<v Speaker 1>Okay, what is your least favorite sexual A guy goes, hey,

535
00:28:19.279 --> 00:28:19.880
<v Speaker 1>can we do this?

536
00:28:19.960 --> 00:28:24.319
<v Speaker 2>And you go, yeah, missionary, So just on the back

537
00:28:24.359 --> 00:28:25.119
<v Speaker 2>with the legs up.

538
00:28:25.599 --> 00:28:27.759
<v Speaker 1>You don't want to look deeply into someone's eyes as

539
00:28:27.799 --> 00:28:30.960
<v Speaker 1>they slowly and romantic. Yeah, no, put your hands around

540
00:28:30.960 --> 00:28:31.319
<v Speaker 1>my neck.

541
00:28:32.319 --> 00:28:37.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, help me out, pull my hener flap me give

542
00:28:37.240 --> 00:28:38.359
<v Speaker 2>me a little flat.

543
00:28:40.640 --> 00:28:45.720
<v Speaker 1>Raven. If the opportunity came along where a site were

544
00:28:45.920 --> 00:28:48.839
<v Speaker 1>to present to you a contract, a deal whatever to

545
00:28:48.880 --> 00:28:52.440
<v Speaker 1>actually shoot a scene, oh tell yeah, that is something

546
00:28:52.440 --> 00:28:53.519
<v Speaker 1>you would be interested in, persue.

547
00:28:53.640 --> 00:28:56.400
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, oh man, that would be amazing. Are you

548
00:28:56.480 --> 00:28:58.519
<v Speaker 2>kidding me? That'd be freaking fantastic.

549
00:28:59.200 --> 00:29:00.960
<v Speaker 1>Do you think you'd become to be working with like

550
00:29:01.119 --> 00:29:04.039
<v Speaker 1>another I don't let me yes, let me pause all

551
00:29:04.119 --> 00:29:05.920
<v Speaker 1>that and let me ask you about your only fans

552
00:29:05.960 --> 00:29:08.480
<v Speaker 1>real quick. That way, your only fan everything you're trying

553
00:29:08.519 --> 00:29:11.200
<v Speaker 1>to do. What type of content are we going to

554
00:29:11.279 --> 00:29:14.799
<v Speaker 1>be producing? Is it strictly solo with you? Which is

555
00:29:14.839 --> 00:29:18.079
<v Speaker 1>totally fine and a lot of people love that. Is it?

556
00:29:18.079 --> 00:29:22.799
<v Speaker 2>It is solo right now? And that's only because I'm

557
00:29:22.839 --> 00:29:26.240
<v Speaker 2>a very reclusive person. I do not go I don't

558
00:29:26.279 --> 00:29:28.559
<v Speaker 2>I just simply don't go out. I have a lot

559
00:29:28.559 --> 00:29:31.799
<v Speaker 2>of anxiety and PTSD from the abuse that I that

560
00:29:31.880 --> 00:29:35.119
<v Speaker 2>I did encounter, and so I literally just stay at home.

561
00:29:36.119 --> 00:29:38.319
<v Speaker 2>You know. I have a few really close friends that

562
00:29:38.599 --> 00:29:41.920
<v Speaker 2>for their own personal reasons choose not to be, you know,

563
00:29:42.079 --> 00:29:44.559
<v Speaker 2>on cam with me, and I get it. So it's

564
00:29:44.640 --> 00:29:47.200
<v Speaker 2>solo for me right now. I mean I have offers,

565
00:29:47.319 --> 00:29:50.440
<v Speaker 2>tons of offers every day, you know, we'll all cam

566
00:29:50.559 --> 00:29:53.480
<v Speaker 2>with you. Well I want to, And okay, you know

567
00:29:53.640 --> 00:29:56.480
<v Speaker 2>that that's great now, And it's not that it's all

568
00:29:56.480 --> 00:29:58.400
<v Speaker 2>about the money. But if someone came to me with

569
00:29:58.440 --> 00:30:03.680
<v Speaker 2>an actual binding contract that's a legal document, and actually

570
00:30:04.359 --> 00:30:08.319
<v Speaker 2>money's going to actually exchange hands, I'm down sure, you

571
00:30:08.319 --> 00:30:10.720
<v Speaker 2>know what I mean. This is a it is it

572
00:30:10.799 --> 00:30:13.519
<v Speaker 2>is a job, you know, and I am looking to

573
00:30:13.519 --> 00:30:17.079
<v Speaker 2>support myself from this, so that that would be amazing

574
00:30:17.079 --> 00:30:18.720
<v Speaker 2>and I wouldn't have a problem with that at all.

575
00:30:19.000 --> 00:30:21.519
<v Speaker 1>What if it was a not so much a company,

576
00:30:21.559 --> 00:30:25.640
<v Speaker 1>but a only fans performed like an established you know,

577
00:30:25.799 --> 00:30:28.799
<v Speaker 1>good references male only fans performers, like, Hey, I'll come

578
00:30:28.799 --> 00:30:31.000
<v Speaker 1>out to you, we'll shoot a scene. We'll both post

579
00:30:31.039 --> 00:30:34.240
<v Speaker 1>it up for whatever. It would be a collaboration. No

580
00:30:34.400 --> 00:30:36.880
<v Speaker 1>set money right off the bat, but we'll both post

581
00:30:36.920 --> 00:30:39.000
<v Speaker 1>it on our thing. I'll give you publicity and what

582
00:30:39.079 --> 00:30:41.759
<v Speaker 1>we sell, we make. You'd be comfortable with something like that.

583
00:30:41.799 --> 00:30:45.480
<v Speaker 2>I would be comfortable with it, Yes, and especially if

584
00:30:46.839 --> 00:30:50.119
<v Speaker 2>they are able to help with the shooting. You know,

585
00:30:50.160 --> 00:30:54.480
<v Speaker 2>that's because I'm I'm That's where I lack experience is

586
00:30:54.480 --> 00:30:57.119
<v Speaker 2>is I'm taking all my own pictures. I'm doing this

587
00:30:57.240 --> 00:30:59.839
<v Speaker 2>all myself, all all my own, you know, not just

588
00:31:00.079 --> 00:31:05.079
<v Speaker 2>I just started the only fans and whatnot. So I'm

589
00:31:05.160 --> 00:31:07.480
<v Speaker 2>just kind of starting to try to figure all this

590
00:31:07.519 --> 00:31:10.759
<v Speaker 2>out and flesh it all out. And it's it's hard

591
00:31:10.799 --> 00:31:13.440
<v Speaker 2>because I think I don't feel like I take pictures well,

592
00:31:13.880 --> 00:31:16.279
<v Speaker 2>you know, so if someone with experience could come out

593
00:31:16.319 --> 00:31:18.799
<v Speaker 2>and do that, that would be amazing.

594
00:31:19.359 --> 00:31:21.880
<v Speaker 1>Well again, if you're a listener to this, because we

595
00:31:21.920 --> 00:31:24.359
<v Speaker 1>actually do have industry people that listen, reach out.

596
00:31:25.200 --> 00:31:27.000
<v Speaker 2>Please be job, Please help me all.

597
00:31:28.359 --> 00:31:33.119
<v Speaker 1>The work you're Raven the Mill sixty nine on Twitter

598
00:31:33.839 --> 00:31:36.720
<v Speaker 1>is where I would recommend reaching out. But you never know,

599
00:31:36.839 --> 00:31:40.000
<v Speaker 1>hit me up and I'll talk to whatever. We'll figure

600
00:31:40.039 --> 00:31:43.640
<v Speaker 1>it out. I just want to see Raven hear work

601
00:31:43.720 --> 00:31:46.839
<v Speaker 1>because she has the right attitude from all the people

602
00:31:46.880 --> 00:31:51.839
<v Speaker 1>I've met on this show. Again, it's a it sucks

603
00:31:51.839 --> 00:31:53.039
<v Speaker 1>to say this. It's a job.

604
00:31:53.240 --> 00:31:56.640
<v Speaker 2>It is, and it's not an easy job. It's really

605
00:31:56.680 --> 00:31:59.000
<v Speaker 2>not it. This is not an easy job. People have

606
00:31:59.079 --> 00:32:02.480
<v Speaker 2>no idea. The amount of hours that that we put in,

607
00:32:03.720 --> 00:32:06.440
<v Speaker 2>and we you just kind of keep plugging away. You know,

608
00:32:06.559 --> 00:32:10.119
<v Speaker 2>you're building your own brand, and it's hard. It's hard

609
00:32:10.119 --> 00:32:11.039
<v Speaker 2>doing it on your own.

610
00:32:11.559 --> 00:32:13.960
<v Speaker 1>That that was actually my next question to you is

611
00:32:14.000 --> 00:32:17.880
<v Speaker 1>did you realize how much back end work was involved

612
00:32:17.960 --> 00:32:18.640
<v Speaker 1>in all of this?

613
00:32:18.960 --> 00:32:20.680
<v Speaker 2>No, not at all.

614
00:32:21.359 --> 00:32:24.359
<v Speaker 1>So many at all, So many gorgeous women come in

615
00:32:24.400 --> 00:32:26.839
<v Speaker 1>and they go like, I'll show up on set, I'll

616
00:32:26.839 --> 00:32:30.079
<v Speaker 1>get fucked, I'll colleck my fifty thousand dollars for this

617
00:32:30.160 --> 00:32:34.640
<v Speaker 1>gang bang and then go home, and it's just not huh.

618
00:32:34.240 --> 00:32:38.480
<v Speaker 2>No, oh no, no, I've never had that. I've never

619
00:32:38.680 --> 00:32:42.039
<v Speaker 2>been able to do anything like that. I mean, it's great,

620
00:32:42.279 --> 00:32:46.359
<v Speaker 2>it's great scrap scratch to get by, you know, work

621
00:32:46.400 --> 00:32:50.240
<v Speaker 2>to the grindstone to get every penny that I can,

622
00:32:50.559 --> 00:32:52.880
<v Speaker 2>you know, totally. I don't want to talk to about

623
00:32:52.880 --> 00:32:56.079
<v Speaker 2>the camsites too much, I know, but it's uh, you know,

624
00:32:56.119 --> 00:32:58.880
<v Speaker 2>they're they're token values there, you know, and as a

625
00:32:58.920 --> 00:33:02.640
<v Speaker 2>model I get I sense a token. So someone tips

626
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<v Speaker 2>you five cents, You've got to get a lot of

627
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<v Speaker 2>five cent tokens. Do you pay a house note or

628
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<v Speaker 2>a car note or an electric mail you know, and

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<v Speaker 2>so the content on OnlyFans and whatnot. I really want

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<v Speaker 2>I really would like to get the subscription base going

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<v Speaker 2>and be able to make those people happy. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>they're gonna get a lot for that subscription price. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>You know I was just listening. You're one hundred percent

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<v Speaker 1>right up? What I Okay? All right, here's what I

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<v Speaker 1>love about talking to you about this again, Like going

636
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<v Speaker 1>back to what I said, you treat it like a job.

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<v Speaker 1>And I've talked to a lot of women who are

638
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<v Speaker 1>in the industry and they're gorgeous and they're working, and

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<v Speaker 1>they almost just kind of like brush it off, like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>this is a you know whatever. I don't care about

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<v Speaker 1>that because they've already made their money. Right. Well, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not saying it's a good I wish you were rich,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, Like, I wish you chose

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<v Speaker 1>not to do. But that's part of the that's part

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<v Speaker 1>of the thing. When you have somebody who is treating

646
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<v Speaker 1>this like a job, who's treating this like almost a career,

647
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<v Speaker 1>You're going to get content from them. You're going to

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<v Speaker 1>get updates.

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<v Speaker 2>You disciplined because they're disciplined right.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, Whereas you may have a hot girl who updates

651
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<v Speaker 1>you know her only fans once every three months and

652
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<v Speaker 1>chats every goes in chatterbase or wherever every two months

653
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<v Speaker 1>or something.

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<v Speaker 2>And yeah, you'll have to write a schedule and stick

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<v Speaker 2>to it, you know. That's been That's been one of

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<v Speaker 2>my biggest names, was realizing this. I have to be

657
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<v Speaker 2>very structured and very disciplined for this to work. I've

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<v Speaker 2>did up and this is what has to happen, damn

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<v Speaker 2>vam vam in this order. And I try to do

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<v Speaker 2>that every day. It's stick to that, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, So we're actually coming to the end here. This

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<v Speaker 1>is how fast it went by. I have I have

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<v Speaker 1>to I tell this is why her room is so

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<v Speaker 1>much fun, folks, Okay, because she loves to talk and

665
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<v Speaker 1>she's good at doing it. This is an odd question,

666
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<v Speaker 1>but I asked us to everyone, and again it's not

667
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<v Speaker 1>at all judgmental. I just like to see where people's

668
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<v Speaker 1>brains are with this. And the answers from like mainstream

669
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<v Speaker 1>performers have been really really surprising to me. What should

670
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<v Speaker 1>the age be that women are allowed to get into porno?

671
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<v Speaker 2>I would say twenty three, twenty four.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, that's I have helped, it would help the current

673
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<v Speaker 3>people that are in the porn industry because the majority

674
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<v Speaker 3>of people are so young.

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<v Speaker 2>It it's saturated. Its completely saturated, and I think that

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<v Speaker 2>they may possibly be getting themselves into something that they're

677
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<v Speaker 2>not realizing how it's going to affect them later. And

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<v Speaker 2>like because when they go to college and they graduate

679
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<v Speaker 2>with that batchelor's or a doctorate or whatever and try

680
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<v Speaker 2>to get that job, they're gonna find out what they've

681
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<v Speaker 2>done and it may be a problem for them. So

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like, you know, they shouldn't be allowed to

683
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<v Speaker 2>do any kind of sex work like that, not at

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<v Speaker 2>at least until they're twenty three at twenty four.

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<v Speaker 1>So the consensus answer that I've kind of come to

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<v Speaker 1>with a lot of these performers is a lot of

687
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<v Speaker 1>them some of them even started at eighteen and they

688
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<v Speaker 1>say twenty one. But we kind of came to a

689
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<v Speaker 1>nice little middle ground, right, because there's also the reverse

690
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<v Speaker 1>or the inverse argument of that, where you go, sixteen

691
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<v Speaker 1>year old girl gets kicked out of her house, she

692
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<v Speaker 1>has nowhere to live. She turns eighteen a couple of

693
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<v Speaker 1>years after they're living on the street and is able

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<v Speaker 1>to start a career out of that. There have been

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<v Speaker 1>stories about that.

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<v Speaker 2>But then she's also going to get these guys that

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<v Speaker 2>are gonna want to do these meetups and that offer her,

698
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<v Speaker 2>you know, money for meetups, and it's going to be

699
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<v Speaker 2>very it's going to look really good to her. And

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<v Speaker 2>you know, that young, being that young, and that Naid

701
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<v Speaker 2>going to a strange place. You know, I can see

702
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<v Speaker 2>bad things happening.

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<v Speaker 1>I've heard bad things have happened, like I've heard those.

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<v Speaker 1>But the kind of the thing that we came to

705
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<v Speaker 1>while still being like pro porn industry and pro women

706
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<v Speaker 1>and this and that was and this is from the

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<v Speaker 1>mainstream girls more eighteen to twenty one, and again I

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<v Speaker 1>understand your point too. Sorry for throwing my hands at

709
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<v Speaker 1>the camera so much. I understand your point too about

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<v Speaker 1>it carries on forever and this and that. But if

711
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<v Speaker 1>you're really dead it, you're really in it. Eighteen to

712
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<v Speaker 1>twenty one solo, just solo, just by yourself shooting content.

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<v Speaker 2>I like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Twenty one maybe twenty three, like you're saying, then you

715
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<v Speaker 1>could start working for companies shooting scenes. It gives you

716
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<v Speaker 1>some time to build a business sense of that.

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<v Speaker 2>And figure out if that's really the way you want

718
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<v Speaker 2>to go hunt.

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<v Speaker 1>But then you know the problem with that.

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<v Speaker 2>Is but you're already out there then yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>But the problem with it really is maturity, because there

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<v Speaker 1>are eighteen year olds that are one hundred times more

723
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<v Speaker 1>mature than I am. There's eighteen year olds who can

724
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<v Speaker 1>have one drink. Okay, Matt can't, So Manch just doesn't anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I'll just refer to myself in the third

726
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<v Speaker 1>person from now on. But but I totally get that

727
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<v Speaker 1>argument too. It's tough to make, you know, the case.

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<v Speaker 1>My view is, if you can join the military at eighteen,

729
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<v Speaker 1>you should be able to shoot solo stuff if you

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<v Speaker 1>need to.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't need to, right, you know. I mean they

732
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<v Speaker 2>might live in a town where there's nothing around and

733
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<v Speaker 2>it can't work, and that's the only way that they can,

734
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<v Speaker 2>you know, make money. So different situations, you.

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<v Speaker 1>Know, and look at yourself. I would never begrudge someone

736
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<v Speaker 1>who needs to make money. I really wouldn't, because it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>what are you gonna do? This is the world we

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<v Speaker 1>live in, right, So Raven, before we go, what last question?

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<v Speaker 1>What is the end goal? Is it to make this

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<v Speaker 1>a full career? Is it to pay off that house

741
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<v Speaker 1>and corner and then leave or okay.

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<v Speaker 2>I you know, I would like to pay off my mortgage,

743
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<v Speaker 2>my car note, and be able to just pay my bills,

744
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<v Speaker 2>make ends meet, you know. And I'm a very naturistic

745
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<v Speaker 2>type person. I really love nature. I'd like to maybe

746
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<v Speaker 2>move to the mountains and build a log cabin one day,

747
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<v Speaker 2>just live peacefully. Maybe even maybe have them and shine

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<v Speaker 2>steal or something in the back down the hall or

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<v Speaker 2>you know. Now I'm just kidding, uh kind of sort

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<v Speaker 2>of not really, but I just I just want I

751
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<v Speaker 2>just want to be happy. And unfortunately in the world

752
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<v Speaker 2>we live in, in this whirl cage, in the hamster wheel,

753
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<v Speaker 2>whatever you want to call it, that we live in,

754
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<v Speaker 2>and we've we've got to work and make money, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean there are so many benefits, you know, to

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<v Speaker 2>to working from home, to be able to work from

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<v Speaker 2>home and make money, but just being able to pay

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<v Speaker 2>the bills as all as my main goal.

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<v Speaker 1>Totally get it, Totally get it, folks. If you are

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<v Speaker 1>a chat person, I'm gonna well first off links in

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<v Speaker 1>the episode description, so make sure you go and click them,

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<v Speaker 1>but let me read them out to you too. If

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<v Speaker 1>you're chat person, on chatter bait. You can find her

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<v Speaker 1>at Raven Old School eleven or strip Chat Raven the

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<v Speaker 1>Milf social media. I'm gonna send you to at Raven

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<v Speaker 1>the Milf sixty nine and you gotta lott cash in

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<v Speaker 1>your pocket you want to head over. Loyal fans Raven

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<v Speaker 1>the Milf and only fans at Raven the sixty nine.

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<v Speaker 1>Raven the Milf, thank you so much for coming on

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<v Speaker 1>with me tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you