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<v Speaker 1>This is the other side of midnight.

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<v Speaker 2>They running a strange program, y'all with Walter Sterling.

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<v Speaker 3>See the uh the.

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<v Speaker 2>Other side of midnight. It's the right side of midnight.

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<v Speaker 4>Walter Sterley is on the air, Up, Bend, down the

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<v Speaker 4>Dot on powerful, powerful stations with fifty Kilowa smiles midnight

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<v Speaker 4>missfit song.

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<v Speaker 2>No that Walter is always right.

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<v Speaker 4>It's the the the the other side of midnight.

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<v Speaker 5>The biggest all night showing American radios in space space

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<v Speaker 5>is I'll tell you professional radio.

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<v Speaker 6>Lesbians in space space space.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's funny though I look like this a

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<v Speaker 3>dressed like this, but men still hit on me when

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<v Speaker 3>I go out to bars. I'm not bothered by when.

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<v Speaker 2>It comes to dating.

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<v Speaker 3>In relationships, I am on lesbian, but when it comes

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<v Speaker 3>to compliments and free drinks, I can be bisexual.

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<v Speaker 7>You know, wife, During the last year, I have attempted

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<v Speaker 7>to make love to you three hundred and sixty five times.

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<v Speaker 7>I succeeded thirty six times. This averages once every ten days,

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<v Speaker 7>and the following is a list of reasons why I

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<v Speaker 7>did not succeed. It's too hot fifteen times, it's too

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<v Speaker 7>cold three times, I'm too tired, nineteen times, it's too late,

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<v Speaker 7>sixteen times, it's too early nine times, pretending to sleep

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<v Speaker 7>thirty five times, I'm not in the mood twenty one times,

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<v Speaker 7>my hair twenty eight times.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that all you think about?

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<v Speaker 7>Eighty three times?

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<v Speaker 5>And there's this great stand up comic who I adore,

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<v Speaker 5>Christina Mollinary. I have tried to reach Christina Mollinary in

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<v Speaker 5>every powerful way that a major market talk show host

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<v Speaker 5>could reach a stand up comic, to stage her, encourage her,

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<v Speaker 5>promote her manager agent. I have failed to reach her.

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<v Speaker 5>I can reach senators, congressman, not presidents, but I'm not

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<v Speaker 5>being able to reach Christina Mollinary.

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<v Speaker 8>Are you guys dating? If you caught her watching Lesbian Portant,

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<v Speaker 8>would that bother you? You'd be like, oh right, this

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<v Speaker 8>is hot, and I mean it is hot. I even

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<v Speaker 8>watch Lesbian Poran, but I just like seeing women get along.

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<v Speaker 5>Now here's good news for you, Sterling Point. Sterling Point

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<v Speaker 5>is the Amazon primetime series eight episodes that is the

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<v Speaker 5>hottest thing on television streaming right now. It's no Love Island,

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<v Speaker 5>It's much better Sterling Point. This is what it's about.

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<v Speaker 5>I'll try to sum it up in forty five seconds

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<v Speaker 5>as to what it's about, because you haven't seen. It's

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<v Speaker 5>just boring to hear what something's about. It's amazing that

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<v Speaker 5>it has captured America this well.

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<v Speaker 9>All right.

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<v Speaker 5>Here are a group of very attractive teenagers living in

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<v Speaker 5>Manhattan in a triple mint townhouse. And then there's a

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<v Speaker 5>very attractive group of teenagers living in cottage Country, Canada,

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<v Speaker 5>on a pristine glacial lake. Cottage Country, Canada what they

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<v Speaker 5>call cottages you and I would call incredible mansions, ten bedrooms,

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<v Speaker 5>ten bathrooms, insane beautiful on a lake. Turns out that

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<v Speaker 5>a man who owns one of those cottages on the

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<v Speaker 5>lake in Canada dies and he has a grandchild who

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<v Speaker 5>lives nearby in that lake community. But he also has

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<v Speaker 5>two grandchildren that live in Manhattan, and now he is

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<v Speaker 5>in his death. They are all communicated with and told

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<v Speaker 5>that they've inherited this twenty one acre estate in Canada,

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<v Speaker 5>but they don't know each other, the kids, they don't

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<v Speaker 5>know each other existed. The rest of it unfolds as

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<v Speaker 5>to do they find out who existed? Do they find

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<v Speaker 5>out who their mother is, their father is, what's the

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<v Speaker 5>real story? That's the tension? Here are incredibly rich kids

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<v Speaker 5>on a lake and another group of incredibly rich kids

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<v Speaker 5>in Manhattan finding out whether or not they exist. Who

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<v Speaker 5>owns what? Oh my god, that's the tension, rich people

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<v Speaker 5>with rich people problems. However, all of these people look

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<v Speaker 5>like supermodels. They all look like supermodels, and they're all

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<v Speaker 5>between the ages of seventeen and twenty two. And they

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<v Speaker 5>fall in love. I know you wouldn't believe it, but

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<v Speaker 5>they fall in love. That's the story that is sterling point.

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<v Speaker 5>Good news if you watch the eight episodes, as I

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<v Speaker 5>did twice, maybe three times with my twenty one year

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<v Speaker 5>old daughter, we found out today that they're going to

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<v Speaker 5>have a second season. No surprise there. It was like

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<v Speaker 5>twenty million downloads, like twenty million streams. Was insane. And

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<v Speaker 5>the way you know it's a great story is it

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<v Speaker 5>has no known stars. I had never seen any of

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<v Speaker 5>these people before except one of the adults. It must

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<v Speaker 5>be a great story to keep our attention.

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<v Speaker 2>So I found really crazy about like adulting child.

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<v Speaker 10>When I say that because I'm twenty four years old,

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<v Speaker 10>but to return twenty five in like two weeks, and

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<v Speaker 10>I still feel like I have like the mind of

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<v Speaker 10>like a nineteen year old. I blame some of that

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<v Speaker 10>on the COVID college years, right, because it's like we

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<v Speaker 10>all had like two and a half years of like

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<v Speaker 10>our formative development just kind of go on like odd.

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<v Speaker 2>Pause and whatnot.

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<v Speaker 10>I don't know, I'm just kind of yapping about nonsense

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<v Speaker 10>here because want to just kind of talk and hear

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<v Speaker 10>what people have to say. But something about adulting that

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<v Speaker 10>has never, like it's never been something I've gotten used to,

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<v Speaker 10>is that, like the conveyor belt never stops.

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<v Speaker 2>It just as soon.

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<v Speaker 10>As you graduate college and you start that first job,

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<v Speaker 10>and I would say, the first time you either pay

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<v Speaker 10>rents or pay like a student loan or whatever your

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<v Speaker 10>big bill is, it just like starts.

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<v Speaker 2>It just doesn't stop. And there are those months.

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<v Speaker 10>Where you get into a groove and things feel comfortable

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<v Speaker 10>because you're like you're being able to, like, you know,

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<v Speaker 10>keep track of your finances and all that, and your social.

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<v Speaker 2>Life is good and your professional life is good, and.

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<v Speaker 10>All it takes is like one like off day that

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<v Speaker 10>turns into an off week, that turns into an off month,

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<v Speaker 10>and you just feel like behind does that make any sense?

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<v Speaker 10>Like I don't want to use like proper nouns here,

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<v Speaker 10>and specifically say like what uh I'm referencing in my

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<v Speaker 10>life right now, but like I haven't felt normal, I

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<v Speaker 10>haven't felt caught up to that conveyor belt in like

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<v Speaker 10>two months, and then it gives me nothing but like

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<v Speaker 10>a weird sense of dread of like is it gonna

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<v Speaker 10>take two months to catch back up to equilibrium? Or

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<v Speaker 10>am I always gonna be behind by two months? Is

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<v Speaker 10>that gonna turn into three months?

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<v Speaker 2>Four months?

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<v Speaker 10>Am I ever gonna get to a point where like

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<v Speaker 10>I'm a year behind this fake conveyor belt?

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<v Speaker 2>That is life? And it's like.

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<v Speaker 10>Blah, I don't know, but profound quote that I love

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<v Speaker 10>that I always go back to is in the end,

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<v Speaker 10>it will be okay. And if it's not okay, it's

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<v Speaker 10>not the end. And I love that stuff because it's

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<v Speaker 10>just like, yeah, I mean, life gets hard sometimes, but.

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<v Speaker 2>Doesn't mean that what's the word. Things aren't gonna smooth out.

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<v Speaker 5>They don't smooth out once you get on the conveyor belt.

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<v Speaker 5>It never ends. It never ends. And that's the first

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<v Speaker 5>time I ever heard that explained a conveyor belt. That's

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<v Speaker 5>exactly what happens once you start to get an electric bill,

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<v Speaker 5>a phone bill, your first paycheck. When did you first

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<v Speaker 5>When was the first time for you personally that you

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<v Speaker 5>felt you had money. I'm not talking boat money. I'm

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<v Speaker 5>just like a little freedom money. There were two things

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<v Speaker 5>that happened to me where I said, oh, oh, I'm

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<v Speaker 5>getting ahead. I'm getting ahead. Let's see what you think.

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<v Speaker 5>One of them, I bought a roll of stamp pips.

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<v Speaker 5>I didn't buy a stamp for this letter. I bought

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<v Speaker 5>a whole roll. To me, this was an enormous event.

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<v Speaker 5>This meant that I was well on my way. I

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<v Speaker 5>bought a roll of stamps. And I lived in a

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<v Speaker 5>bachelor apartment at the time, top floor walk up. I

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<v Speaker 5>was very lucky. It was a really cute It was

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<v Speaker 5>a good apartment, and there was a bathroom, and the

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<v Speaker 5>bathroom had a sink and a bathtub, and for me,

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<v Speaker 5>wealth was I bought two bars of soap, one for

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<v Speaker 5>the bathtub, one for the sink. To me, that was

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<v Speaker 5>a huge step because I had been using one bar

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<v Speaker 5>of soap for both for quite some time. But now

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<v Speaker 5>I had made it. Now I had a roll of

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<v Speaker 5>stamps and I had two bars of soap.

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<v Speaker 1>You are listening to the biggest all night show in

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<v Speaker 1>American Radio.

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<v Speaker 5>The other side of mid nine, Christina ballin.

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<v Speaker 11>R or anyone growl religious and here.

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<v Speaker 2>Mormon?

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<v Speaker 12>Is that the one with a lot of wives? Oh

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<v Speaker 12>my gosh, so is this one your favorite? You have

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<v Speaker 12>seven wives and you take out the loud ones.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, she's Mexican, so it makes sense.

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<v Speaker 11>I love Mexicans, Italians Mexicans. I feel like we're very

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<v Speaker 11>culturally similar.

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<v Speaker 12>Yeah, tomato salsa.

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<v Speaker 2>You do more than that.

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<v Speaker 11>Oh, yes, yes, of course. I was just it's not

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<v Speaker 11>your fault. It's not your first slavery.

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<v Speaker 12>No, I love Mexicans.

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<v Speaker 2>Hope you don't think I.

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<v Speaker 11>Was trying to No.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I didn't think you cooked. I didn't think.

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<v Speaker 11>Why would you cook your seven other wives?

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<v Speaker 12>You're probably the anal one.

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<v Speaker 11>Right, I'm assuming Spanish is your first language.

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<v Speaker 4>Cool.

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<v Speaker 11>Italian's my first language too, thank you. I think Spanish

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<v Speaker 11>is harder than Italian to learn.

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<v Speaker 2>Man, it's anal night.

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<v Speaker 3>Tonight is.

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<v Speaker 5>Silas Staten Island. Welcome to the Other Side Out of

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<v Speaker 5>Midnight with Walter Sterling at eight hundred eight four eight

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<v Speaker 5>nine two two two high silence.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah. I talk about criminal enterprises the as far as

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<v Speaker 9>the schools go. And Andy Winegarden. I believe she gave

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<v Speaker 9>two hundred.

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<v Speaker 5>She's a lesbian.

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<v Speaker 9>Lesbian, don't the teachers themselves have the power to say,

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<v Speaker 9>don't you give one penny of our money to any

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<v Speaker 9>politician they allow to just do that.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know. I don't know what the bylaws are

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<v Speaker 5>of the teachers' union, but it does seem to me

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<v Speaker 5>to be bizarre that they randomly hand out money to

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<v Speaker 5>people who don't need it.

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<v Speaker 9>Because I say, you know, I have one of those

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<v Speaker 9>air conditions you were talking about. How cool are they

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<v Speaker 9>tell me about air condition every room right now?

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<v Speaker 5>Tell me, no, stop, tell me about that air conditioner

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<v Speaker 5>because I saw it on TikTok and TIMU fascinated by it.

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<v Speaker 9>Oh I have it. Yeah, it's it's one of those Gee,

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<v Speaker 9>why didn't I think.

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<v Speaker 5>Of a thing exactly like, oh my god.

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<v Speaker 9>It's It comes with a bracket that you put right

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<v Speaker 9>on the windowsill and it can It even has two

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<v Speaker 9>arms that will lay against the building if you need it.

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<v Speaker 9>You just sit it on there, close the window down.

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<v Speaker 9>It's fully adjustable and you can just and it comes

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<v Speaker 9>with like this foam stuff to you know, keep the

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<v Speaker 9>air from getting in and bam, you're in and does

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<v Speaker 9>it work as simple as absolutely cool? Room down in

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<v Speaker 9>no time?

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<v Speaker 5>And which size one did you get?

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<v Speaker 9>You know? The thinking about what you said, Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 9>you're thrown away two hundred million on Hillary and she lost.

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<v Speaker 9>the fire fire department. Why couldn't he fund it? Or

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know why they couldn't do it. Of course

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<v Speaker 5>they could do it. Thank you very much for the call.

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<v Speaker 5>I appreciate your French. Our friend Silas on Staten Island.

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<v Speaker 5>Walter Sterling. The other side of Midnight Red Apple Audio Networks, the.

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<v Speaker 1>Other side of Midnight with meter Sterling. It's the other

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<v Speaker 5>I'll tell you a great conspiracy, this nonsense of people

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<v Speaker 5>paying attention to Prince Harry and to Megan Markle. Let

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<v Speaker 5>has not been repeated and reported and gone over, because

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<v Speaker 5>there it is. Sometimes it's right in front of you

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<v Speaker 5>all of a sudden, magically, right before school has to start.

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<v Speaker 5>They're going back to England. They I don't know, maybe

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<v Speaker 5>their private school was not cure enough in Mendocino. But

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<v Speaker 5>they're getting out of California. And the celebrities there, the

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<v Speaker 5>celebrities there, I had to turn up my earphone. Sorry.

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<v Speaker 5>The celebrities there are saying fine. Gwyneth Paltrow, she's like

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<v Speaker 5>thrilled that they're gone. No need to have them around.

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<v Speaker 5>We never saw them in town. They were never part

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<v Speaker 5>of the community. Nobody in Mendocino is going to be

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<v Speaker 5>sad that they're gone. And you and I'm tired of

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<v Speaker 5>hearing about her but that's all very nice. That's not

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<v Speaker 5>the story, and I don't I can't believe any so

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<v Speaker 5>called reporter has not followed up this story. Hi, Megan

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<v Speaker 5>was married before Who is she married to? She was

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<v Speaker 5>married to a successful Hollywood producer, director of like eight

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<v Speaker 5>episode shows, streaming shows like that Tear. Not a big

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<v Speaker 5>husband for her, made perfect sense. They looked right together.

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<v Speaker 5>The ages were similar, similar backgrounds, but she had to

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<v Speaker 5>go up to Canada a lot to make suits that

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<v Speaker 5>TV series, and she was good in that, and she'd

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<v Speaker 5>They grew apart. Blah blah blah. That isn't what happened.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't think that happened for one second. The two

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<v Speaker 5>of them worked on projects together, wrote series together, wrote

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<v Speaker 5>episodic television together, made up stuff. They made up stuff.

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<v Speaker 5>And she has said that the very last thing that

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<v Speaker 5>where a layman, a normal citizen, happy, normal citizen, marries

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<v Speaker 5>a prince. Now I'm not kidding, this is what they

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<v Speaker 5>were working on. They marry a prince, She marries a prince.

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<v Speaker 5>And the eight episodes or ten episodes was going to

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<v Speaker 5>be about this normal civilian marrying a prince, the shift

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<v Speaker 5>in their life, how they adjust, how they don't adjust,

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<v Speaker 5>how the court doesn't like them, how the princes don't

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<v Speaker 5>like them, how all the tensions of bringing a civilian

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<v Speaker 5>into a royal family. That's what she was working on

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<v Speaker 5>with her first husband. Now I watched General Hospital, You

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<v Speaker 5>watched General Hospital, Days of Our Lives, Another World, Well,

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<v Speaker 5>that's a soap proper story, because then she divorces, divorces

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<v Speaker 5>her first husband, and I would check those papers, just

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<v Speaker 5>like I would check Obama's birth certificate. I would check

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<v Speaker 5>those papers, and I would see if she's really divorced.

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<v Speaker 5>And then I'd keep track of the fact that the

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<v Speaker 5>very last thing her and her real husband were working

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<v Speaker 5>on was the story about a normal civilian marrying into

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<v Speaker 5>a royal family. There it is. I believe that's what

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<v Speaker 5>she's always been doing. I believe she's been gathering everything

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<v Speaker 5>she needs to make a spectacular television show, a spectacular series.

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<v Speaker 5>That's what she's collecting. I think we can agree at

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<v Speaker 5>this point with Prince Harry. Maybe not the brightest one

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<v Speaker 5>of the Royal fold maybe not the sharpest one in

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<v Speaker 5>the royal family. My mother would say, My Jersey mother

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<v Speaker 5>would say. When looking at that relationship Megan and Harry,

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<v Speaker 5>my mother would say, well, she must be doing something

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<v Speaker 5>for him, She must be doing something for him. And yes,

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<v Speaker 5>she must be doing something for him.

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<v Speaker 6>Now.

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<v Speaker 5>The interesting thing about British law and royalty, those kids

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<v Speaker 5>of hers, they belong to the king. No, really, they

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<v Speaker 5>belong to the king. Those are the kings literally figuratively.

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<v Speaker 5>He can decide when those kids live where Ultimately they

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<v Speaker 5>belong to the royal family. They are already working royalty.

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<v Speaker 5>Don't you love that phrase? Is there a minimum wage

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<v Speaker 5>on working royalty?

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<v Speaker 9>Oh?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, you get your own mansion. But that's it. I

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<v Speaker 5>believe that she has always had this secret plot to

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<v Speaker 5>take this story, the story of her new life, and

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<v Speaker 5>turn it into a television series, which surprisingly magically, she's

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<v Speaker 5>going to be producing with her first husband, her real husband.

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<v Speaker 5>That's what I think this is about. And it fits

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<v Speaker 5>the logic of General Hospital, of Another World, Days of

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<v Speaker 5>Our Lives, it fits all of that. This is what

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<v Speaker 5>they do with soap operas. And I think Harry, who

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<v Speaker 5>watched no real TV, he wouldn't know he would have

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<v Speaker 5>no idea. I still can't believe that he had these magnificent,

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<v Speaker 5>these gorgeous, incredible women before her and he didn't marry them.

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<v Speaker 5>He had all the right girls before her. Walter Sterling Friday,

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<v Speaker 5>The Other Side of Midnight from the Red Apple Audio Networks.

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<v Speaker 2>Mart Docking Walterston The Other side.

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<v Speaker 5>Of Midnights Walter Sterling The Other Side of Midnight with

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<v Speaker 5>Meghan from News Nation. She puts together the most interesting,

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<v Speaker 5>useful reports News Nation has. She should be on the

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<v Speaker 5>air more and they should pay her more. Meghan, what

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<v Speaker 5>are you working on this week?

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<v Speaker 13>I mean say it, louder Walter.

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<v Speaker 5>They should put her on more. They should put her

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<v Speaker 5>on more. I'll put reverb on it later. They should

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<v Speaker 5>put her on more, and they should pay her more.

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<v Speaker 13>Yeah, that's what we're talking about. It's so good to

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<v Speaker 13>be back with you. You know, we are working on

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<v Speaker 13>a bunch of things. I just walked in the door

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<v Speaker 13>from the studio. I did two interviews today. I did

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<v Speaker 13>part two of our Scientology series. But it's a really

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<v Speaker 13>interesting one that I'm going to bump up to the

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<v Speaker 13>next episode to air. Was this crazy story about Jeffrey Epstein,

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<v Speaker 13>Hugh Hessner, playmates, and the FBI. It's like that's the intersection,

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<v Speaker 13>like that, that's the trifector right there. But apparently Playboy

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<v Speaker 13>playing has come forward saying she told Hugh Hefner that

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<v Speaker 13>Jeffrey Epstein had sectually assaulted her and then trafficked her

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<v Speaker 13>back in two thousand and four, and then Hugh Hefner

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<v Speaker 13>called the FBI and she was like, I heard him

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<v Speaker 13>on the phone with the FBI. He reported it, He

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<v Speaker 13>did the right thing. They never followed up with me,

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<v Speaker 13>They never said anything. The case was never opened, nothing

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<v Speaker 13>ever happened. It went nowhere. So I talked today to

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<v Speaker 13>a former FBI agent, former CIA agent, and I asked

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<v Speaker 13>her to her face Number one, what happened? Why would

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<v Speaker 13>they not take that seriously someone as high profile as

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<v Speaker 13>Hugh Hefner, saying that, Secondly, why would they take it

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<v Speaker 13>seriously about Epstein? Because you know at that time they

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<v Speaker 13>were already building a case against him. You know, they

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<v Speaker 13>had a file on him. So if somebody at that

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<v Speaker 13>high profile would complain and make that call, you would

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<v Speaker 13>think they would fall up on it. So the big

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<v Speaker 13>thing I asked her straight to her face was is

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<v Speaker 13>the FBI corrupt? And she said, well, she said yes,

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<v Speaker 13>but why she said yes? It is the interesting part.

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<v Speaker 13>You know, we got into the different layers of one

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<v Speaker 13>person could be and you know, she asked, She's like, well,

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<v Speaker 13>what do you mean by that? And I'm like, you

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<v Speaker 13>know what I mean is Jeffrey Epstein. Was Jeffrey Epstein

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<v Speaker 13>paying someone within the FBI who was on his payroll?

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<v Speaker 13>Did he have blackmail on somebody? What are the chances

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<v Speaker 13>that this did get brought back straight to him? And

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<v Speaker 13>then he somehow made it go away? And we talked

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<v Speaker 13>about you know, yes that's possible, and here's here's why.

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<v Speaker 13>You know, not only was that his mL blackmail being

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<v Speaker 13>his his m but there's also you know, bad eggs

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<v Speaker 13>in every organization, and that then things can go other ways.

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<v Speaker 13>Into was like there's also a level to it of

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<v Speaker 13>like maybe they didn't report or fall up on it

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<v Speaker 13>because they felt like Epstein, the FBI being they thought

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<v Speaker 13>alive but not in jail and not convicted because he

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<v Speaker 13>had information possibly with you know, international relations aspect of it,

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<v Speaker 13>like hey, this country that you know, we're not too

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<v Speaker 13>friendly with he might find out before us who our

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<v Speaker 13>next president will be, et cetera, et cetera. So, you know,

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<v Speaker 13>we talked a lot about the victim, the accusations, the

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<v Speaker 13>high profile of it, and then our workings of the

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<v Speaker 13>FBI and the CIA and where they really dropped the ball.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, the long rumor is that the FBI and the

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<v Speaker 5>CIA do not coordinate on anything, and that may have

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<v Speaker 5>been the opportunity. That may have been the opportunity that

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<v Speaker 5>was lost. The thing that always strikes me about Epstein

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<v Speaker 5>is this was the busiest man who ever lived. There

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<v Speaker 5>were there are three million, three million emails, there's all

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<v Speaker 5>of this coordination. Half a billion dollars was just handed

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<v Speaker 5>to him by the guy who started the the limited

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<v Speaker 5>I'm like, what the hell? And an extraordinarily busy guy

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<v Speaker 5>without portfolio. Nobody on Wall Street says he did any

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<v Speaker 5>transactions with any firm that anybody knows of. So all

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<v Speaker 5>of this, all of this money came from G. We're

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<v Speaker 5>not sure it went to scoreless activities and G We're

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<v Speaker 5>not sure about that. And anybody who got near him

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<v Speaker 5>in the public eye has been fired and banished instantly.

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<v Speaker 5>The minute they were connected therefore there must be a

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<v Speaker 13>Yeah, and he seems like the fall guy in a

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<v Speaker 13>lot of sense. I mean, like you said, he was

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<v Speaker 13>the busiest man ever. Well, there had to have been

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<v Speaker 13>a lot of other people doing the dirty work and

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<v Speaker 13>just pushing him from ward as the face guy, and

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<v Speaker 13>all that stuff might just still be going on. Seems likely.

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<v Speaker 5>Ironically, there's always been a general belief that at root,

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<v Speaker 5>Hugh Hefner was an honest businessman. You've never heard him

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<v Speaker 5>about fraud, corruption, You haven't. You may not have liked

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<v Speaker 5>his business, but he was running a legal business. And

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<v Speaker 5>the fact that he picked up the phone and called

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<v Speaker 5>the FBI, well that tells you a lot about Hefner.

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<v Speaker 11>YEP.

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<v Speaker 13>I totally agree, and we talked a lot about that

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<v Speaker 13>in the episode today because you had started with I'm

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<v Speaker 13>kind of what os here about the story of Hugh Heffner,

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<v Speaker 13>Because before his death, I say, straight out he was

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<v Speaker 13>the man, right, he did have that legitimate business. People

423
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<v Speaker 13>wanted to be him. He had the mansion, he had

424
00:27:03.759 --> 00:27:05.920
<v Speaker 13>the girlfriends, he had all this stuff and it was

425
00:27:06.000 --> 00:27:08.319
<v Speaker 13>it was legitimate and he was the man. So we

426
00:27:08.359 --> 00:27:10.039
<v Speaker 13>all would he died. We're like, oh my god, an

427
00:27:10.240 --> 00:27:13.319
<v Speaker 13>icon has passed away. But since his past thing, all

428
00:27:13.440 --> 00:27:16.720
<v Speaker 13>these allegations have come out from former girlfriend's ex ex

429
00:27:16.759 --> 00:27:19.920
<v Speaker 13>wives about him not painting him in the best life,

430
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<v Speaker 13>you know, saying that the mansion was really an abusive

431
00:27:22.359 --> 00:27:27.079
<v Speaker 13>and controlled, the psychological damaging place to be and you know,

432
00:27:27.240 --> 00:27:29.880
<v Speaker 13>the quailus and the filming and all this stuff has

433
00:27:29.960 --> 00:27:31.400
<v Speaker 13>kind of come out that's kind of paind in him

434
00:27:31.440 --> 00:27:33.960
<v Speaker 13>in a bad light. So you know, we talked about

435
00:27:34.000 --> 00:27:36.920
<v Speaker 13>that today about how do you reconcile these two different

436
00:27:37.039 --> 00:27:40.759
<v Speaker 13>images of this man that that we're seeing, And you know,

437
00:27:40.799 --> 00:27:43.079
<v Speaker 13>in reality, I mean, maybe it was just both. You know,

438
00:27:43.279 --> 00:27:45.160
<v Speaker 13>maybe he knew like, hey, I'm going to protect one

439
00:27:45.200 --> 00:27:48.960
<v Speaker 13>of my playmates because she moved into the mansion. I've

440
00:27:49.000 --> 00:27:51.559
<v Speaker 13>seen accuser in this scenario, she did move into the

441
00:27:51.599 --> 00:27:56.559
<v Speaker 13>Playboy mansion of course security purposes for she felt scared obviously,

442
00:27:56.839 --> 00:27:58.920
<v Speaker 13>and Hugh had her moved her in to make sure

443
00:27:58.960 --> 00:28:00.920
<v Speaker 13>that she was safe. So you know, I think it

444
00:28:01.000 --> 00:28:03.240
<v Speaker 13>was probably just both. But yeah, we talked about that

445
00:28:03.279 --> 00:28:06.400
<v Speaker 13>a lot because there's a lot of weird parallels there.

446
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<v Speaker 5>Did you learn anything about Part two of Scientology that

447
00:28:10.160 --> 00:28:12.240
<v Speaker 5>has caused you to be concerned.

448
00:28:14.480 --> 00:28:17.160
<v Speaker 13>Yeah, you know, I'm always concerned. You know I've I've

449
00:28:17.160 --> 00:28:18.920
<v Speaker 13>sent to you before, and I did say in the

450
00:28:18.920 --> 00:28:21.759
<v Speaker 13>episode today, I can't even believe I'm doing this series

451
00:28:21.799 --> 00:28:25.000
<v Speaker 13>because I said that I never wanted to really get

452
00:28:25.720 --> 00:28:29.079
<v Speaker 13>that with Scientology. But the guest who I talked to,

453
00:28:29.160 --> 00:28:31.200
<v Speaker 13>I mean, he exposes them every single day. He's got

454
00:28:31.200 --> 00:28:33.440
<v Speaker 13>a great sum stack, and he's written books and he's

455
00:28:33.480 --> 00:28:35.680
<v Speaker 13>covering all the trials and stuff. But you know, we

456
00:28:35.759 --> 00:28:39.640
<v Speaker 13>really talked about the inner workings of how Scientology beat

457
00:28:39.680 --> 00:28:43.200
<v Speaker 13>the irs and how they caught tax exemption status after

458
00:28:43.240 --> 00:28:45.880
<v Speaker 13>it was revoked from them in the first place. And

459
00:28:45.920 --> 00:28:51.720
<v Speaker 13>it really is like government espionage style tactics here that

460
00:28:51.799 --> 00:28:56.160
<v Speaker 13>they used to, you know, breach hundreds of US government offices,

461
00:28:56.319 --> 00:29:01.279
<v Speaker 13>confiscate thousands of confidential documents to really get their attack

462
00:29:01.359 --> 00:29:04.240
<v Speaker 13>exemption status back. So we really talked about the kind

463
00:29:04.240 --> 00:29:09.319
<v Speaker 13>of the inner workings of the Scientology playbook of retaliation,

464
00:29:10.519 --> 00:29:12.680
<v Speaker 13>and you know, we've really given to the celebrity aspect

465
00:29:12.839 --> 00:29:15.799
<v Speaker 13>of it about you know, why these celebrities are useful

466
00:29:15.880 --> 00:29:19.720
<v Speaker 13>to them and the Danny Masterson's case that seventies show

467
00:29:19.759 --> 00:29:22.920
<v Speaker 13>actor who is behind bars for a sexual being convicted

468
00:29:22.920 --> 00:29:26.160
<v Speaker 13>of sexual assaults of multiple women and why they were

469
00:29:26.160 --> 00:29:28.920
<v Speaker 13>having you know, Lisa Marie Presley talked to the victims

470
00:29:28.920 --> 00:29:32.079
<v Speaker 13>about not coming forward, just kind of the weird sense

471
00:29:32.160 --> 00:29:35.079
<v Speaker 13>or stuff that goes on behind the scenes that nobody

472
00:29:35.079 --> 00:29:38.240
<v Speaker 13>in the media really talks about because well, one there

473
00:29:38.279 --> 00:29:43.079
<v Speaker 13>you're intimidated by the retaliation effects of efforts by Scientology

474
00:29:43.440 --> 00:29:45.000
<v Speaker 13>or too. You just don't really think it's a story

475
00:29:45.000 --> 00:29:48.000
<v Speaker 13>because it's past. But that's not true because Scientology is

476
00:29:48.000 --> 00:29:50.920
<v Speaker 13>fighting today right now to get that sex of enter

477
00:29:50.960 --> 00:29:54.319
<v Speaker 13>Danny Masterson out of jail, and they're also in court

478
00:29:54.440 --> 00:29:58.160
<v Speaker 13>right now with Leah Ramini bashing her and shaming her.

479
00:29:58.319 --> 00:30:02.200
<v Speaker 13>So there's a lot going on there that people might

480
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<v Speaker 13>not think is timely or something to be talked about

481
00:30:04.640 --> 00:30:07.039
<v Speaker 13>right now in the news. But there's a lot going on.

482
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<v Speaker 5>When is this getting on the air.

483
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<v Speaker 13>Next week? We'll do so Wednesday, whatever that date is,

484
00:30:15.480 --> 00:30:18.000
<v Speaker 13>maybe the twenty sixth, you know, you know, all the

485
00:30:18.039 --> 00:30:23.519
<v Speaker 13>calendar goes. Next Wednesday we will do the Playboy Ebscene

486
00:30:23.519 --> 00:30:26.680
<v Speaker 13>Accusations episode with Hugh Hefner, and in the following week

487
00:30:26.720 --> 00:30:29.920
<v Speaker 13>we will start the series on the Scientology.

488
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<v Speaker 5>Fantastic good luck with those kids. I appreciate you being

489
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<v Speaker 5>on the other side of midnight.

490
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<v Speaker 3>Thank you, Thank you ns Walter starting out of side.

491
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<v Speaker 2>Of mid now.

492
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<v Speaker 5>Now this weekend. When you're bored, go to my website

493
00:30:47.079 --> 00:30:50.079
<v Speaker 5>learn more about this show. You and I are companions

494
00:30:50.119 --> 00:30:55.960
<v Speaker 5>in being misfits. Walter sterlingshow dot com. Walter sterlingshow dot com.

495
00:30:56.000 --> 00:31:00.359
<v Speaker 5>You'll see interesting pictures of my cats, interesting pick of

496
00:31:00.359 --> 00:31:03.680
<v Speaker 5>my family. The fact is you and I belong to

497
00:31:03.720 --> 00:31:10.359
<v Speaker 5>the same club. We're misfits. That means that the normal people,

498
00:31:10.440 --> 00:31:12.440
<v Speaker 5>the people who are going to come to work in

499
00:31:12.480 --> 00:31:17.039
<v Speaker 5>about ninety minutes, they don't understand us at all. First,

500
00:31:18.000 --> 00:31:21.720
<v Speaker 5>they don't understand why we work at this time. I

501
00:31:21.839 --> 00:31:25.039
<v Speaker 5>work at this time because I want to. Were there

502
00:31:25.079 --> 00:31:27.839
<v Speaker 5>opportunities for you to work in daylight? Yes, there were

503
00:31:27.839 --> 00:31:30.880
<v Speaker 5>many opportunities for me to work in daylight. The fact

504
00:31:30.960 --> 00:31:36.359
<v Speaker 5>is I'd rather work now because I fit in here.

505
00:31:37.480 --> 00:31:40.720
<v Speaker 5>Everybody who chooses to work overnight, we're kind of all

506
00:31:40.799 --> 00:31:42.640
<v Speaker 5>the same, which is we don't want to talk to

507
00:31:42.720 --> 00:31:45.640
<v Speaker 5>each other. And then we step back and go, well,

508
00:31:45.680 --> 00:31:48.960
<v Speaker 5>actually I don't really want to talk to anybody, and

509
00:31:49.000 --> 00:31:50.920
<v Speaker 5>then I look around, I go there's no one here

510
00:31:50.960 --> 00:31:53.200
<v Speaker 5>for me to talk to. This is the best thing.

511
00:31:53.720 --> 00:31:56.279
<v Speaker 5>There's no one outside to talk to, no one inside

512
00:31:56.319 --> 00:31:58.960
<v Speaker 5>to talk to. There was something really interesting that I

513
00:31:59.039 --> 00:32:02.279
<v Speaker 5>learned about New York City, about Manhattan that I'd never

514
00:32:02.400 --> 00:32:06.839
<v Speaker 5>realized until recently. I never looked. When I get off

515
00:32:06.880 --> 00:32:10.279
<v Speaker 5>the air, I wait for a bus. I go across

516
00:32:10.319 --> 00:32:13.599
<v Speaker 5>Third Avenue and I wait for a bus. And here's

517
00:32:13.599 --> 00:32:17.839
<v Speaker 5>what's interesting. It's not three in the morning. It's five thirty,

518
00:32:18.480 --> 00:32:22.279
<v Speaker 5>quarter to six. It might as well be three in

519
00:32:22.319 --> 00:32:27.759
<v Speaker 5>the morning. There is nobody, I mean nobody in Manhattan

520
00:32:27.920 --> 00:32:30.720
<v Speaker 5>at five thirty in the morning. I figured there'd be

521
00:32:30.920 --> 00:32:35.960
<v Speaker 5>some No, there's a bus driver, there's a guy setting

522
00:32:36.000 --> 00:32:38.440
<v Speaker 5>up a coffee shop, but they're no stores open. I

523
00:32:38.480 --> 00:32:40.480
<v Speaker 5>want to get a newspaper. I want to buy a newspaper. No,

524
00:32:40.559 --> 00:32:44.599
<v Speaker 5>there's no place to buy a newspaper. And there's no newsstand.

525
00:32:45.440 --> 00:32:48.839
<v Speaker 5>They don't open until like six thirty. And then the

526
00:32:48.880 --> 00:32:51.759
<v Speaker 5>stores with the coffee and all that, they don't open

527
00:32:51.920 --> 00:32:56.599
<v Speaker 5>till seven. Dunkin Donuts, God bless you, Dunkin Donuts is

528
00:32:57.240 --> 00:33:00.480
<v Speaker 5>like opened at four thirty. I can get Duncan Donuts

529
00:33:00.519 --> 00:33:03.200
<v Speaker 5>at four point thirty, but I was surprised it it's

530
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<v Speaker 5>not a slow roll of people coming into the city.

531
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<v Speaker 5>It's nobody. And then bum six point fifteen, six point thirty,

532
00:33:10.880 --> 00:33:14.000
<v Speaker 5>and they're there. The other thing that's kind of cool

533
00:33:14.039 --> 00:33:17.119
<v Speaker 5>and amazing. Even in New York City, I get a bus.

534
00:33:17.640 --> 00:33:20.400
<v Speaker 5>I like the bus, and I get on a bus,

535
00:33:21.480 --> 00:33:23.440
<v Speaker 5>and because I usually get on a bus at the

536
00:33:23.480 --> 00:33:29.519
<v Speaker 5>same time, I know the bus driver. It's not a

537
00:33:29.559 --> 00:33:32.400
<v Speaker 5>small town. I know the bus driver. Bus driver knows me.

538
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<v Speaker 5>Those are the special things. The person selling the coffee,

539
00:33:37.640 --> 00:33:41.240
<v Speaker 5>the coffee cart guy, he's there. It's a community of

540
00:33:41.240 --> 00:33:44.720
<v Speaker 5>people who work at this special time. I didn't say late,

541
00:33:45.079 --> 00:33:47.400
<v Speaker 5>I didn't say overnight. This is a special time. It's

542
00:33:47.440 --> 00:33:50.319
<v Speaker 5>an intimate time. There's an intimacy. No matter where you live,

543
00:33:50.400 --> 00:33:53.000
<v Speaker 5>no matter where you work, at this time of day,

544
00:33:53.920 --> 00:34:00.559
<v Speaker 5>we're different. And what I've learned is that the later

545
00:34:00.640 --> 00:34:04.519
<v Speaker 5>in the day, the more honest adults become. I can

546
00:34:04.599 --> 00:34:08.119
<v Speaker 5>have honest conversations with a guy at five in the

547
00:34:08.119 --> 00:34:10.440
<v Speaker 5>morning that I will not have at seven in the morning.

548
00:34:11.159 --> 00:34:12.920
<v Speaker 5>And that's why I like being on the radio at

549
00:34:12.920 --> 00:34:15.119
<v Speaker 5>this time, because when you and I talk on the phone,

550
00:34:15.880 --> 00:34:18.440
<v Speaker 5>I know you're telling your truth. And I do the

551
00:34:18.480 --> 00:34:20.840
<v Speaker 5>best to tell mine. I have an email. It's Walter

552
00:34:21.199 --> 00:34:26.960
<v Speaker 5>dot Sterling at wabcradio dot com. And we've learned a

553
00:34:26.960 --> 00:34:29.719
<v Speaker 5>lot this week, none of it we can repeat. I'd

554
00:34:29.760 --> 00:34:32.320
<v Speaker 5>discourage you from sharing it to other people. I'd hate

555
00:34:32.320 --> 00:34:34.480
<v Speaker 5>for a lot of these things to wind up in

556
00:34:34.599 --> 00:34:39.280
<v Speaker 5>FCC complaints, because we have enough trouble. The greatest gift

557
00:34:39.679 --> 00:34:43.280
<v Speaker 5>that you and I can receive is a request for help.

558
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<v Speaker 1>The other Sign of Midnight with Walter Sterling.

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<v Speaker 5>Ross Caultheart from News Nation live in Sydney, Australia. Ross

560
00:34:58.400 --> 00:35:02.880
<v Speaker 5>is surrounded by beautiful women. He's in Sydney, Australia, our expert.

561
00:35:03.280 --> 00:35:06.719
<v Speaker 5>I'm Conspiracies and Mysteries. Welcome, mister Coultart.

562
00:35:07.920 --> 00:35:10.960
<v Speaker 6>I am flattered by your impressions of where I am, Walter.

563
00:35:11.079 --> 00:35:14.239
<v Speaker 6>I wish I was surrounded by beautiful women. But yes,

564
00:35:14.239 --> 00:35:20.480
<v Speaker 6>you're right, Bondi Beach does have a high I thought

565
00:35:20.480 --> 00:35:23.119
<v Speaker 6>i'd talk to you this evening, Walter about a phenomenon

566
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<v Speaker 6>that has been perpetual across the United States, but particularly

567
00:35:27.719 --> 00:35:32.039
<v Speaker 6>in the Midwest, which has reared its ugly head yet again.

568
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<v Speaker 6>And it's one of the most enduring natural mysteries and

569
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<v Speaker 6>source of great conspiracy theories. The phenomenon of cattle mutilations.

570
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<v Speaker 6>So as you would know, right across parts of America,

571
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<v Speaker 6>for many, many years, ranchers have been reporting the weird

572
00:35:50.559 --> 00:35:57.639
<v Speaker 6>phenomenon of cattle completely exanguinated, no blood, but often no

573
00:35:57.880 --> 00:36:02.639
<v Speaker 6>visible injuries. Their body are just completely drained of blood.

574
00:36:02.679 --> 00:36:06.480
<v Speaker 6>And this isn't some idle speculation. This has been reported

575
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<v Speaker 6>and recorded by FBI investigations and by local ranches themselves,

576
00:36:11.719 --> 00:36:16.280
<v Speaker 6>and also by civilian investigators. And what characterizes these so

577
00:36:16.360 --> 00:36:22.079
<v Speaker 6>called mutilations often is the phenomenon where in some cases

578
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<v Speaker 6>the tissue, all of the tissue, not just bits of

579
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<v Speaker 6>the tissue. You'll find animals that are not only completely exanguinated,

580
00:36:31.119 --> 00:36:36.840
<v Speaker 6>but their heads have been completely stripped of flesh. You

581
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<v Speaker 6>literally have a normal looking cow up to the base

582
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<v Speaker 6>of the neck, and then from much of the neck upwards,

583
00:36:44.039 --> 00:36:49.000
<v Speaker 6>every single piece of tissue, the eyeballs, the flesh, even

584
00:36:49.039 --> 00:36:52.960
<v Speaker 6>the difficult bits of flesh in between the tendons, they've

585
00:36:53.119 --> 00:36:56.719
<v Speaker 6>all literally just been removed and all you see is

586
00:36:56.760 --> 00:37:03.119
<v Speaker 6>a listening, moist skull. But there are very recent reports

587
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<v Speaker 6>from Montana, the Teuteau County and Big Sandy, Montana. In

588
00:37:07.239 --> 00:37:10.840
<v Speaker 6>early August, a cow was found dead with its face

589
00:37:10.880 --> 00:37:14.280
<v Speaker 6>area skinned and the tongue removed. And this is very,

590
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<v Speaker 6>very common. But the most interesting one is in the

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<v Speaker 6>San Luis Valley in Colorado, which is an absolute hotbed

592
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<v Speaker 6>of cattle mutilations. If you go back over forty fifty years,

593
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<v Speaker 6>San Luis Valley is where it's always been happening. There

594
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<v Speaker 6>are ten thousand cases going back decades involving a cluster

595
00:37:38.599 --> 00:37:43.599
<v Speaker 6>of cattle mutilations across the Midwest and in middle August.

596
00:37:43.719 --> 00:37:46.920
<v Speaker 6>Just about a week ago, ranchers reported a cattle mutilation

597
00:37:47.039 --> 00:37:51.360
<v Speaker 6>on a property where photos and video evidence presented in

598
00:37:51.400 --> 00:37:55.800
<v Speaker 6>a forum. And again it's the same phenomenon, classic pattern

599
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<v Speaker 6>of clean cuts, organ and tissue removal, little or no blood.

600
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<v Speaker 6>I mean, if you cut open an animal like a cow,

601
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<v Speaker 6>massive animal, it's going to bleed, It's going to drip

602
00:38:07.760 --> 00:38:10.960
<v Speaker 6>blood onto the area, the grass around, and you'd expect

603
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<v Speaker 6>if you went to that site and found the dead animal,

604
00:38:14.000 --> 00:38:17.000
<v Speaker 6>you would expect to find a big pool of blood.

605
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<v Speaker 6>I can tell you in most of these cases there

606
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<v Speaker 6>is absolutely no blood. And I've interviewed a vet here

607
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<v Speaker 6>in Australia, a veterinarian who told me that he went

608
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<v Speaker 6>to an area in northern New South Wales about ten

609
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<v Speaker 6>hours drive from where I am, and the vet found

610
00:38:35.119 --> 00:38:38.480
<v Speaker 6>a cow that was lying on its side dead. It

611
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<v Speaker 6>had no visible entry wounds, there was nothing on its

612
00:38:42.599 --> 00:38:45.079
<v Speaker 6>body to indicate that it had been interfered with in

613
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<v Speaker 6>any way whatsoever. So he did an autopsy. And as

614
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<v Speaker 6>you would know, Walter cows have three stomachs. They have

615
00:38:53.360 --> 00:38:57.000
<v Speaker 6>a particular stomach inside them called the omassum, which some

616
00:38:57.039 --> 00:38:59.599
<v Speaker 6>people call the bible because it looks like a book.

617
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<v Speaker 6>Its folds of tissue and it looks a little bit

618
00:39:02.480 --> 00:39:08.239
<v Speaker 6>like a soggy piece of book. And when he did

619
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<v Speaker 6>the post mortem, he cut the animal open, lifted aside

620
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<v Speaker 6>the first stomach that was there, lifted aside the second

621
00:39:14.679 --> 00:39:18.840
<v Speaker 6>stomach that was there, and he described to me all

622
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<v Speaker 6>he found where the imassim should be was a stub

623
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<v Speaker 6>that had clearly been cut by some kind of electro

624
00:39:27.119 --> 00:39:30.000
<v Speaker 6>cauterizing device. He said it was almost like a laser,

625
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<v Speaker 6>and he couldn't explain it. And he said the most

626
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<v Speaker 6>important and disturbing thing for him was he couldn't provide

627
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<v Speaker 6>any explanation for how something could cauterize a wound in

628
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<v Speaker 6>the way that was described and not leave any evidence

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<v Speaker 6>of burning. You know, one of the interesting analyzes that's

630
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<v Speaker 6>been done by Linda Moulton Howe, who's a celebrated researcher,

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<v Speaker 6>these cuts show evidence of high heat. The hemoglobin is cooked.

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<v Speaker 6>You see cooked globin and coullogen at the excision site,

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<v Speaker 6>but there's no carbon residue that would typically be left

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<v Speaker 6>by a laser or a quarterizing heat wand on carbon

635
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<v Speaker 6>based tissue like animal tissue. And the only explanation that

636
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<v Speaker 6>some can give is that, however these cuts were made,

637
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<v Speaker 6>they were made extremely rapidly, with no inflammatory cell response

638
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<v Speaker 6>that would normally begin within minutes of trauma. And a

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<v Speaker 6>lot of the times, the FBI particularly has been very

640
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<v Speaker 6>central in trying to downplay these mutilations, and they've asserted,

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<v Speaker 6>along with some experts, that these are just normal animal

642
00:40:40.039 --> 00:40:45.239
<v Speaker 6>scavenging events, and experienced ranchers and indeed many sheriffs I've

643
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<v Speaker 6>spoken to, have said that's complete nonsense, that known predators

644
00:40:50.039 --> 00:40:55.719
<v Speaker 6>like coyotes, wolves, birds, they don't produce these kind of uniform,

645
00:40:56.159 --> 00:41:00.000
<v Speaker 6>non torn edges on thick animal hide or soft tissue

646
00:41:00.880 --> 00:41:04.239
<v Speaker 6>and the bloodlessness is the real issue. And these cases

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<v Speaker 6>of bloodlessness go right back to a bull that was

648
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<v Speaker 6>found in nineteen seventy eight with near Dulce in New Mexico,

649
00:41:12.639 --> 00:41:15.960
<v Speaker 6>and fortunately it was investigated by scientists at the time,

650
00:41:16.079 --> 00:41:19.199
<v Speaker 6>and it was the classic case where the blood was

651
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<v Speaker 6>an unusually light pink color and even though several days

652
00:41:24.159 --> 00:41:28.159
<v Speaker 6>had passed since this animal had died, it hadn't plotted.

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<v Speaker 6>And the interesting thing as well was that so many

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<v Speaker 6>times when you find these animals, and this is what's

655
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<v Speaker 6>reported in these latest cases. There's no footprints, there's no

656
00:41:39.360 --> 00:41:43.039
<v Speaker 6>tire tracks, there's no predator tracks, there's not even any

657
00:41:43.039 --> 00:41:48.119
<v Speaker 6>disturbed vegetation around the carcass, including in soft soil, mud

658
00:41:48.239 --> 00:41:51.880
<v Speaker 6>or snow, where you'd expect to find these kind of signs.

659
00:41:52.519 --> 00:41:54.880
<v Speaker 6>And this is often the case, even when the animal's

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<v Speaker 6>large and healthy. And it's interesting because the other thing

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<v Speaker 6>you notice is and this is something that's reported in

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<v Speaker 6>these latest cases. Just witness last couple of weeks. The

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00:42:04.800 --> 00:42:10.760
<v Speaker 6>carcasses are often left completely untouched by birds, flies, coyotes

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<v Speaker 6>or other scavengers after the discovery. Insects stay away, animals

665
00:42:16.000 --> 00:42:20.199
<v Speaker 6>stay away, Coyotes don't go ignore the body. And in

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00:42:20.239 --> 00:42:23.800
<v Speaker 6>one cluster back in twenty twenty three, scientists noticed that

667
00:42:23.920 --> 00:42:26.880
<v Speaker 6>six animals that had been killed in this unusual way,

668
00:42:27.719 --> 00:42:32.559
<v Speaker 6>no scavengers approached the bodies at any stage. And it's

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<v Speaker 6>a real mystery. And the interesting thing, Walter is it's

670
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<v Speaker 6>starting to happen again, not just in America. It's happening

671
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<v Speaker 6>in my country in Australia as well, and it's part

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<v Speaker 6>of i think, a lifelong event that goes back decades.

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<v Speaker 6>It's only been reported in a great deal of detail

674
00:42:51.280 --> 00:42:54.360
<v Speaker 6>since the Second World War. But one of the other

675
00:42:54.599 --> 00:42:58.079
<v Speaker 6>common phenomena that characterizes a lot of these cases, and

676
00:42:58.119 --> 00:43:00.760
<v Speaker 6>this is certainly the case here in Australia and certainly

677
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<v Speaker 6>the case with a lot of these cases in the

678
00:43:03.280 --> 00:43:08.960
<v Speaker 6>Midwest and the United States. Often there are orbs seen

679
00:43:09.159 --> 00:43:13.760
<v Speaker 6>by human witnesses in the area. People describe seeing orb

680
00:43:13.920 --> 00:43:18.960
<v Speaker 6>shaped lights craft hovering over the site. And if anyone

681
00:43:19.079 --> 00:43:22.760
<v Speaker 6>of the Midnight Misfits is listening and they're a watcher

682
00:43:22.840 --> 00:43:26.559
<v Speaker 6>of the Skywatcher Ranch episode, the sorry the skin Watcher

683
00:43:26.679 --> 00:43:30.239
<v Speaker 6>Ranch episode, they would know that skin Walker Ranch, which

684
00:43:30.280 --> 00:43:34.920
<v Speaker 6>is this notorious weird site ranch in Utah, which is

685
00:43:34.920 --> 00:43:40.639
<v Speaker 6>owned Brian billionaire called Brandon Fugel. They've long reported incidents

686
00:43:40.679 --> 00:43:45.639
<v Speaker 6>of weird cattle mutilation where they find again completely exangunated

687
00:43:45.679 --> 00:43:51.199
<v Speaker 6>cattle with organs removed, often dreadful things like their genitals

688
00:43:51.199 --> 00:43:55.480
<v Speaker 6>have been excist or their entire anal region has been

689
00:43:55.760 --> 00:43:59.920
<v Speaker 6>almost surgically removed with such precision that there is no

690
00:44:00.400 --> 00:44:04.480
<v Speaker 6>disturbance of any adjacent tissue that would normally be connected

691
00:44:04.599 --> 00:44:09.880
<v Speaker 6>to that kind of tissue. I don't know why a

692
00:44:09.920 --> 00:44:13.000
<v Speaker 6>little green man from Zeta reticulatee or whatever it is

693
00:44:13.079 --> 00:44:15.760
<v Speaker 6>would come in and want to steal a cow'sanus or

694
00:44:16.199 --> 00:44:20.000
<v Speaker 6>genitals or utdter or rectum, but basically that's what's happening.

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<v Speaker 6>And the interesting thing is it's happening again Walter, that

696
00:44:24.360 --> 00:44:27.840
<v Speaker 6>we're seeing an increase in the number of cattle mutilation events,

697
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<v Speaker 6>and it's a mystery that's been around for literally hundreds of.

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<v Speaker 5>Years and a conspiracy to keep it quiet. It's hard

699
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<v Speaker 5>to imagine where these cows are mutilated with the population

700
00:44:41.280 --> 00:44:45.480
<v Speaker 5>centers around them that it's never been witnessed. And therefore

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<v Speaker 5>the only thing I can conclude is something you mentioned,

702
00:44:48.360 --> 00:44:53.000
<v Speaker 5>which is it must be done incredibly fast, really fast,

703
00:44:53.119 --> 00:44:58.480
<v Speaker 5>perhaps by a light saber, a light scalpel, without any

704
00:44:58.559 --> 00:45:04.679
<v Speaker 5>being there. It's practically through telepathy that these cows are killed,

705
00:45:05.000 --> 00:45:07.480
<v Speaker 5>because it goes it would have to go incredibly fast

706
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<v Speaker 5>for nobody to see it.

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<v Speaker 6>I investigated one of these cases Walter in Northern Queensland,

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<v Speaker 6>which is a couple of hours flight north of me,

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<v Speaker 6>and it's very tropical, subtropical rainforest where they have cattle.

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<v Speaker 6>But their house is on the only road in and

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00:45:24.960 --> 00:45:27.480
<v Speaker 6>the only road art and if you wanted to get

712
00:45:27.480 --> 00:45:30.840
<v Speaker 6>in there with any kind of truck or gear, you

713
00:45:30.960 --> 00:45:34.960
<v Speaker 6>literally have to drive past Bob and Judy's place. And

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<v Speaker 6>Bob and Judy invited his art there and we went

715
00:45:37.320 --> 00:45:39.960
<v Speaker 6>and looked at these cattle and these poor animals, whatever

716
00:45:40.000 --> 00:45:42.880
<v Speaker 6>they had happened to them. Their tongues had been removed,

717
00:45:42.920 --> 00:45:46.039
<v Speaker 6>their eyes had been taken, and then when we examined them,

718
00:45:46.119 --> 00:45:49.760
<v Speaker 6>their organs internal organs had been excited in ways that

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00:45:49.920 --> 00:45:54.239
<v Speaker 6>couldn't be explained. And whatever it was, it came in

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<v Speaker 6>from the air. Because there was no possibility that somebody

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<v Speaker 6>had sneaked in by a truck and pasted the family

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<v Speaker 6>home because the road literally passed within two feet of

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<v Speaker 6>the family home. They would have heard it in the

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<v Speaker 6>middle of the night. And as you say, these cuts,

725
00:46:10.280 --> 00:46:14.679
<v Speaker 6>whenever they happen, they're instantaneous, and it's frankly, I mean

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<v Speaker 6>I stated as a mystery because it really is. It's

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<v Speaker 6>one of the greatest mysteries in the world of anomalous phenomena.

728
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<v Speaker 6>Nobody has ever been able to provide an adequate explanation

729
00:46:25.519 --> 00:46:27.159
<v Speaker 6>for what this phenomenon is.

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<v Speaker 5>I wonder what the next step would be to find

731
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<v Speaker 5>out what it is, what would be the device, the

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<v Speaker 5>research that would be needed to do, and who would

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<v Speaker 5>do it to find out what's causing this.

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<v Speaker 6>I'd like to see cameras, like maybe trail cameras placed

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<v Speaker 6>in locations where a lot of these events are happening.

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<v Speaker 6>The interesting thing is the Skinwalker Ranch people tried the

737
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<v Speaker 6>same thing and they found that they're monitoring devices. They

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<v Speaker 6>couldn't explain how it was done because they had cameras

739
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<v Speaker 6>filming the cameras that were doing the recording, and instantaneously

740
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<v Speaker 6>the wiring was excised. They couldn't explain how it happened,

741
00:47:05.559 --> 00:47:09.400
<v Speaker 6>but the wiring was excised. Something cut the wires without

742
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<v Speaker 6>them being able to record it on a camera. It

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00:47:11.880 --> 00:47:15.679
<v Speaker 6>was it was as if something had intervened within the

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<v Speaker 6>frames of the video to actually stop the wiring from

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<v Speaker 6>connecting to the camera. I have no explanation for this,

746
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<v Speaker 6>but I suspect that there is something unnatural that is

747
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<v Speaker 6>screwing with.

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<v Speaker 5>Us exactly a great mystery presented by the legendary Ross Coulthart,

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<v Speaker 5>journalist with News Nation. Ross, how do we see your work?

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<v Speaker 5>Where can we see you?

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<v Speaker 6>Best place to find me, my friend, is to go

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<v Speaker 6>to YouTube and put in reality check. Ross Coulthart, Thank you, Walter.

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<v Speaker 5>Thank you sir. Live from Sydney, Australia, Ross Coulthart The

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<v Speaker 5>Other Side of Midnight with Walter Sterling from the Red

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