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<v Speaker 1>Hi.

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<v Speaker 2>This is Mike Pokowitz, a golf instructor in Philadelphia, PA,

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<v Speaker 2>and I coach at Five Iron Golf and Play Around Golf.

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<v Speaker 3>This is golf Smarter.

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<v Speaker 2>Golf Smarter number four hundred and seventy one, published on

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<v Speaker 2>January thirteen, twenty fifteen.

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<v Speaker 4>Welcome to Golf Smarter Mulligans, your second chance to gain

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<v Speaker 4>insight and advice from the best instructors featured on the

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<v Speaker 4>Golf Smarter podcast. Great Golf Instruction Never gets Old. Our

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<v Speaker 5>You have to take them on the golf course. I

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<v Speaker 5>don't think you can teach that management standing on the

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<v Speaker 5>driving range. What I would do is get that person

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<v Speaker 5>on the golf course, stand on the tee and look

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<v Speaker 5>down the fairway and have them tell me what's out there,

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<v Speaker 5>What do they see? Where's the trouble? Where don't you

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<v Speaker 5>want to go? And they'll convince themselves they say, well,

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<v Speaker 5>it's all water down the right hand side. I definitely

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<v Speaker 5>don't want to go there. So you get them to

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<v Speaker 5>actually see a picture of the hole and where's the

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<v Speaker 5>best place to play that and then start working on

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<v Speaker 5>club selection. You know, this is a little tight driving hole.

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<v Speaker 5>What club do you have the most confidence in it?

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<v Speaker 5>You know, I really like my seven with Okay, so

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<v Speaker 5>hit your seven with office teeth with the next shot

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<v Speaker 5>and play get it inside one hundred yards to the

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<v Speaker 5>green and then get it on the green to walk away.

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<v Speaker 1>With bogie.

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<v Speaker 3>Letting go of the bad shots with Tom Good.

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<v Speaker 4>This is Golf Smarter, sharing tips and insights from golfers

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<v Speaker 4>and golf professionals to help blower your score. It's worked

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<v Speaker 4>for your host, Fred Green.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to the Golf Smarter Podcast.

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<v Speaker 3>Tom.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, Fred, thanks for having me.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's my pleasure. Thank you so much for reaching

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<v Speaker 2>out to me via LinkedIn. Nope, that's interesting how many

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<v Speaker 2>people will do that. But I appreciate you doing that

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<v Speaker 2>because there were a couple things in your introductory let

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<v Speaker 2>that really stood out to me. That mostly which is

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<v Speaker 2>that you teach golfers how to manage a golf course.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think that is such an important part of

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<v Speaker 2>the game that most people don't really get and I

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<v Speaker 2>want to spend some time on that.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, that sounds good, but before.

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<v Speaker 2>We do that, let's establish who you are, where you

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<v Speaker 2>come from, what you're doing these days, and why in

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<v Speaker 2>the fact, why in the heck that I'm talking to

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<v Speaker 2>you today.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, I'll tell you it's been kind of a long,

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<v Speaker 5>fun journey for me. I've been in this business all

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<v Speaker 5>my life, pretty much as a child.

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<v Speaker 1>I grew up in it. I've played professionally.

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<v Speaker 5>I've played in college, and when I ended up not

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<v Speaker 5>being able to make the money I needed to make professionally,

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<v Speaker 5>I figured I could probably teach the game better than

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<v Speaker 5>I could play it, so I gravitated into teaching. In fact,

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<v Speaker 5>I started my first lessons in nineteen seventy two at

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<v Speaker 5>Lincoln Park Golf Course in San Francisco, and the last

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<v Speaker 5>twenty two years I spent well, actually it's probably a

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<v Speaker 5>little longer ago than that, twenty two years at Almonden

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<v Speaker 5>Country Club as the director of instruction and head golf professional.

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<v Speaker 5>And then four years ago I made a move to

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<v Speaker 5>go strictly back into teaching full time at Center Bar

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<v Speaker 5>Hills Golf Club in San Jose, where I'm the director

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<v Speaker 5>of instruction.

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<v Speaker 3>Very good.

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<v Speaker 2>So, when you said you played professionally, tell me a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit about that. That always is intriguing to me.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, it was you know, I had worked in the

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<v Speaker 5>club business for a little while as a young guy

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<v Speaker 5>right out of college, and decided that I'd like to

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<v Speaker 5>try to play the.

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<v Speaker 1>Game for a living.

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<v Speaker 5>So I did the whole deal of going through the

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<v Speaker 5>tour school qualifying after working for about five years, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>not playing a lot of competitive golf, and I went

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<v Speaker 5>and missed the first stage of the tour school by

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<v Speaker 5>one shot. So I thought, hey, you know, maybe let's

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<v Speaker 5>pursue this. So I played mini tour golf in Arizona

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<v Speaker 5>and around California for about two years, and I'll never

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<v Speaker 5>forget my first first round as a professional. I shot

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<v Speaker 5>sixty seven. I felt absolutely fantastic, and I went into

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<v Speaker 5>the scoreboard and I was six shots behind the lead

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<v Speaker 5>after one round.

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<v Speaker 3>So one of the best rounds of your life. And

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<v Speaker 3>it's like exactly, and you're not.

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<v Speaker 5>Thinking, that's as boud as good as I can play,

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<v Speaker 5>and I was six packs. So and that was quite

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<v Speaker 5>a while ago. That was when everybody wasn't quite as

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<v Speaker 5>good as they are today.

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<v Speaker 1>So but I did play for a.

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<v Speaker 5>While, and you know, then when kind of that kind

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<v Speaker 5>of served its purpose, I got back into the club

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<v Speaker 5>professional business and concentrating a lot on teaching. That was

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<v Speaker 5>when I really decided that was what I wanted to do.

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<v Speaker 5>And so I've been teaching pretty much off and on

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<v Speaker 5>for forty years, the last thirty years exclusively teaching.

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<v Speaker 2>So great, Great, I want to go back to that

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<v Speaker 2>first round that you had when you were playing professionally.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that one a three or four day tournament?

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<v Speaker 5>It was, I, you know, my memories, that was quite

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<v Speaker 5>a few years ago, but I believe they were three

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<v Speaker 5>day tournaments at that time.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So you know, it's so fun to watch recreational

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<v Speaker 2>amateur golfers who get frustrated that they don't get better

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<v Speaker 2>every single round, and they'll go out and shoot a

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<v Speaker 2>eighty five and be ecstatic about it and think that

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<v Speaker 2>they've got everything figured out. And the next day they'll

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<v Speaker 2>go out and shoot a ninety seven and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it can range ten strokes on any given day. Do

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<v Speaker 2>you happen to remember, you know, you shoot a sixty seven,

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<v Speaker 2>you're stoked, you're pumped up, and then the next day

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<v Speaker 2>do you have any recollection of how you did that?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I believe it was somewhere close to PARR. But

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<v Speaker 5>I think what happens is you go out and shoot

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<v Speaker 5>around like that. Then the next day you go back

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<v Speaker 5>out and try to do the same thing.

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<v Speaker 1>And as soon as you start trying to.

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<v Speaker 5>Do something in this game, that's when you get into trouble.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh please expand on that. That's really an interesting concept.

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<v Speaker 2>It's when you try to do something exactly.

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<v Speaker 5>And I kind of use the analogy a lot in teaching.

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<v Speaker 5>When we get in on a car and drive down

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<v Speaker 5>the road or down the street going to the store

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<v Speaker 5>or wherever, we really don't think about the mechanics of

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<v Speaker 5>driving the car. We don't think about getting in, fasten

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<v Speaker 5>get us there. We just end up at our destination

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<v Speaker 5>and sometimes you stop and wonder, oh, wow, here's my exit.

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<v Speaker 5>I got to get off the road right here. Well,

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<v Speaker 5>what happens a lot of times when you get on

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<v Speaker 1>Just had a really good round.

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<v Speaker 5>You go back to the course the next day and

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<v Speaker 5>you say, now, what was I doing?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I think I was.

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<v Speaker 5>I think I must have been turning really well, I

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<v Speaker 5>was using my body well, and you start thinking about

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<v Speaker 5>the mechanics of the golf swing rather than just playing

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<v Speaker 5>the game, looking at the golf course and picking your

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<v Speaker 5>target and.

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<v Speaker 1>Just letting your swing work. What you've been teaching it.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you telling me that we think too much when

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<v Speaker 2>we're on the golf course.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>Probably got ninety nine percent of us do that.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, absolutely, Yeah, you're just trying to figure out And

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<v Speaker 5>I think as humans we have this tendency to always

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<v Speaker 5>be trying to figure things out. Whether we've hit a

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<v Speaker 5>bad shot, we try to figure.

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<v Speaker 1>Out what we did wrong.

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<v Speaker 5>Then when we hit a good shot, we try to

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<v Speaker 5>figure out what we did.

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<v Speaker 3>Well.

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<v Speaker 2>Or you have a good shot and you think it's

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<v Speaker 2>an anomaly and you're going, yeah, but I'm hitting bad

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<v Speaker 2>shots today, and you keep focused on the bad shot exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Well that good shot wasn't me. That was a mistake,

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<v Speaker 1>you know.

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<v Speaker 5>So I'm the guy that hits it out of bounds

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<v Speaker 5>and left all the time, So right right, that was

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<v Speaker 5>someone else in my body.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Where'd you play in college?

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<v Speaker 1>I played at BYU Okay, very good.

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<v Speaker 5>I played for a couple of years there and then

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<v Speaker 5>went to work at my family golf course after that,

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<v Speaker 5>and that was kind of when.

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<v Speaker 1>I got into the business.

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<v Speaker 2>At that time, wea a family golf course. So you

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<v Speaker 2>said you were in at your entire life. What is

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<v Speaker 2>a family golf course?

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<v Speaker 5>My family, my father was a golf professional, and we

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<v Speaker 5>grew up. I can remember as a kid ten eleven

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<v Speaker 5>years old picking the driving range, doing all the work,

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<v Speaker 5>washing the carts. So I've been in it pretty much

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<v Speaker 5>all my life, which is I'm sixty three years old

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<v Speaker 5>right now, so I've been around it a long time,

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<v Speaker 5>seeing a.

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<v Speaker 1>Lot, done a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, all right. So now I'm thinking, you're a

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<v Speaker 2>teenage boy. You're working in You're working for your family,

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<v Speaker 2>You're driving the golf, you know, picking up balls off

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<v Speaker 2>the driving range, and you're saying to yourself, I am not.

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<v Speaker 3>Going to be in this business. This is ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, were there times that you were going, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>this is not going to work for me, I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to be an accountant.

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<v Speaker 1>Nope.

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<v Speaker 5>Never never had that thought I was going to play

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<v Speaker 5>I was going to play professionally. It was I think

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<v Speaker 5>I've had maybe two other part time jobs in my

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<v Speaker 5>entire life outside of golf, which were that was when

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<v Speaker 5>I was in high school. I sold men's clothing for

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<v Speaker 5>a while, and then I got a job one time

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<v Speaker 5>for a fencing company, and I found out that I

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<v Speaker 5>was the only they hired me because I had a

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<v Speaker 5>driver's license. It wasn't anything about building fences.

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<v Speaker 1>I could drive the truck, so you know, that was

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<v Speaker 1>why I was about eighteen years old. So anyway, and

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<v Speaker 1>that was it.

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<v Speaker 5>Then from then on, it's been golf, all aspects of golf.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you have siblings.

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<v Speaker 5>I do.

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<v Speaker 3>Did they go in the business as well?

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<v Speaker 2>Or are they the ones that said I am not

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<v Speaker 5>Let's just say that they started in it. We were

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<v Speaker 5>all in it one time, and they got smart and

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<v Speaker 5>got out of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so you're the bad good right, the bad member

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<v Speaker 5>He Yeah, I had an older brother that went into

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<v Speaker 5>the superintendent business, taking care of the golf courses rather.

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<v Speaker 1>Than than being the golf professional. But yeah, we were

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<v Speaker 1>all in it one time.

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<v Speaker 3>That's awesome.

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<v Speaker 5>At one point, all four of us, my father and

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<v Speaker 3>So awesome.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that's great, great story, Thank you. Let's go back

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<v Speaker 2>to us. Let's let's figure out what we're doing wrong here.

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<v Speaker 2>And I love the idea of talking about thinking too

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<v Speaker 2>much and and you know, I know that there's times

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<v Speaker 3>To knowing what I did right.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So because I I just you know, I hear

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<v Speaker 3>Tell me your thoughts on that.

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<v Speaker 5>I kind of look at it like which which comes first,

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<v Speaker 5>so you start hitting better shots, and then out of.

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<v Speaker 1>Those better shots comes the confidence.

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<v Speaker 5>So you know, it's you know what came first, the

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<v Speaker 5>egg or the chicken, you know, So you have to

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<v Speaker 1>To create the confidence.

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<v Speaker 5>So and then once you feel that confidence on the

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<v Speaker 2>And also, I would think it's really important to understand

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<v Speaker 1>Exactly exactly.

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<v Speaker 5>That's one of the things that it's really hard to

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<v Speaker 1>They, like you say, they bad.

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<v Speaker 5>Shots are as much a part of the game as

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<v Speaker 5>the good shots. And I would sometimes like to have

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<v Speaker 5>eighteen whole round, it's eighteen games and it's maybe going.

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<v Speaker 1>Like going to Las Vegas. The house is going to

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<v Speaker 5>To just kind of manage your mistakes and just realize

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<v Speaker 1>Got to just roll with the punches and have amnesia.

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<v Speaker 5>Let the bad shots go and focus on the next

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<v Speaker 2>How how do you have yeah, how do you get

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<v Speaker 2>that amnesia where you know, how do you focus on

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<v Speaker 2>the good and eliminate the negative and not overthink this?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, how do you teach that well.

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<v Speaker 5>I think I think you've actually got to practice it.

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<v Speaker 5>It's again, it goes back to what I mentioned there before,

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<v Speaker 5>is that we're always trying to figure out what.

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<v Speaker 1>We did wrong.

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<v Speaker 5>And I just share a little story with you. One time,

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<v Speaker 5>getting some nine irons, and so he hit the first

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<v Speaker 5>nine iron abou one hundred and seventy yards absolutely.

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<v Speaker 2>Perfect and seventy yards?

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<v Speaker 3>Is that what you said?

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<v Speaker 1>Really? Yes, that's exactly what I said.

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<v Speaker 5>I watched the ball and I went I said, okay, Nathan,

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<v Speaker 5>I said, is that a pretty normal nine iron?

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<v Speaker 1>And he looked at me and goes mm hm.

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<v Speaker 5>And so he had another one about exactly the same thing,

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<v Speaker 5>land in the same spot. And so he hit five

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<v Speaker 1>Were within five to ten yards of each other.

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<v Speaker 5>And I'm looking and I said, that is you know,

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<v Speaker 5>I says, that's your normal nine iron and he's and

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<v Speaker 5>again man of few words, he said mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 1>So then he hit one.

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<v Speaker 5>I hit about three inches behind it. Okay, hit this

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<v Speaker 5>big chunker. So I said, so, Nathan, what happened there?

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<v Speaker 5>And he looked at me like I was like an idiot.

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<v Speaker 5>He looked at me, he said, well, I hit behind it.

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<v Speaker 5>And I said, okay, go on, you know. So it

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<v Speaker 5>wasn't why did I do that? Why did I hit

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<v Speaker 1>He just accepted that he hit behind it and that

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<v Speaker 1>was what it was. So he went on to the

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<v Speaker 1>next shot and.

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<v Speaker 2>Probably hit the next one one hundred and seventy yards.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he just hit it out there again.

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<v Speaker 5>Right, So it's what we have to practice, is and

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<v Speaker 5>I don't I don't think you can just go out

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<v Speaker 5>our human nature. It's something that you have to work at.

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<v Speaker 5>It's something that you have to practice, and you can

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<v Speaker 5>start practicing it on the driving range and it's really

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<v Speaker 5>really hard to do, you know, to get out of

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<v Speaker 5>our get that out of our mind, that got to

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<v Speaker 5>hit that bad shot, and you've got to stay in

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<v Speaker 5>the present. Okay, all right, that SHOT's gone, and you

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<v Speaker 1>To talk yourself through that.

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<v Speaker 5>You have to say, all right, miss that shot, all right,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm moving on to the next one, and you start

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<v Speaker 5>focusing on the next shot. And that's going to help

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<v Speaker 5>you train yourself to get out of what you just did,

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<v Speaker 5>because you know, there's so much time between shots on.

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<v Speaker 1>The golf course.

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<v Speaker 5>You're either waiting for the people that you're playing with

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<v Speaker 5>or waiting for the group in front of it, and

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<v Speaker 5>the whole time is you're thinking about that last shot

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<v Speaker 5>mentally and physically just say okay, I'm going to the

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<v Speaker 1>I'm moving forward here. And it takes time. You might

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<v Speaker 1>be able to do it for three or four holes.

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<v Speaker 5>In around and then gradually the many the next time

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<v Speaker 5>out you're able to kind of stay in that present

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<v Speaker 5>for six holes. So it's just something that you have

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<v Speaker 5>to work at. It's just like practicing the physical shots,

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<v Speaker 5>you got to practice the mental park.

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<v Speaker 2>We've talked so much on this show about outcome versus process.

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<v Speaker 2>We never forget we had one called Nato, which was

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<v Speaker 2>not attached to outcome. And I find that a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of people get upset. People that I play with, they

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<v Speaker 2>get upset with the result of where the ball landed

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<v Speaker 2>versus their swing, their contact with the ball, and I,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I my friends kind of look at me like,

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<v Speaker 2>what are you talking about? When I'll have a shot

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<v Speaker 2>that I'm not happy with that, I'm more unhappy with

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<v Speaker 2>the swing and with the contact than I am with

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<v Speaker 2>the result the result. You know, once you know I

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<v Speaker 2>can't do much about that. I can have a phenomenal

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<v Speaker 2>drive and it ends up in a bunker. Why should

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<v Speaker 2>I get upset about that? Right?

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<v Speaker 1>Exactly?

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<v Speaker 5>Take on the challenge of trying to get it out

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<v Speaker 5>of the ball.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly. It's like, oh boy, this is exciting something different.

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<v Speaker 5>That's why they you know, they put bunkers out there

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<v Speaker 5>for a reason for people to hit into them. So

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<v Speaker 5>you might as well just say, take on the challenge

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<v Speaker 5>of being able to hit the bunker shot.

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<v Speaker 2>And what cracks me up is that you'll play with

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<v Speaker 2>someone who's played that course over and over and they go, God,

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<v Speaker 2>I hit into the bunker every single time, and you

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<v Speaker 2>just want to go, well, let's there's two things you

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<v Speaker 2>can do here. One you can go from a different

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<v Speaker 2>tea box maybe you're playing the wrong tea box, or

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<v Speaker 2>two just try a different club this time. If you're

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<v Speaker 2>going to do that every time, why are you taking

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<v Speaker 3>Are there other options that I missed?

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<v Speaker 1>They hit right? You know it's I got two things

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<v Speaker 1>I was thinking of.

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<v Speaker 5>One one story college coach was talking to me the

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<v Speaker 5>one time about one of his tail players was standing

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<v Speaker 5>on a part three, one hundred and six bole water

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<v Speaker 5>on the right, Arizona on the left, so there's tons

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 5>First ball goes in the water, right, second ball goes

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<v Speaker 1>You're under a coach and said what do I do?

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<v Speaker 1>And the coach said, aim left.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, if you keep making the same mistake, that's

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<v Speaker 5>you know, you just you got to look at it

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<v Speaker 5>and say God that that you know, you don't have

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<v Speaker 5>to hit driver off every team. You don't have to

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<v Speaker 5>hit three wood on every part five for your second shot.

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<v Speaker 1>Just because it's a long waist from the green.

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<v Speaker 5>But what you're trying to do is keep the golf

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<v Speaker 5>ball in play and hit the club that you have

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<v Speaker 5>the most confidence in.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, and I think another thing.

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<v Speaker 5>Another mistake people make a lot is they don't play

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<v Speaker 5>the way they hit the ball. So you know, if

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<v Speaker 5>they'll stand on the range and they'll practice, and their

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<v Speaker 5>driver ninety eight percent of the time has a left

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<v Speaker 5>to right shape to it, sometimes more than others. Okay,

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<v Speaker 5>So they stand up and they aim down the middle

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<v Speaker 5>of the fairway and the ball slices into the trees

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<v Speaker 5>on the right.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, so I know it, well, yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>If you do it ninety percent of the time, So

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<v Speaker 5>why don't you just aim down the left side and

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<v Speaker 5>play the fade rather than trying to hit it straight,

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<v Speaker 5>which you can't do right. So I think it's it's

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<v Speaker 5>people have to understand their game.

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<v Speaker 1>Know their game.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, if you're a twenty two handicap and you hit

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<v Speaker 5>your ball off the tee one hundred and eighty five yards,

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<v Speaker 5>but in your mind, you should be hitting at two

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<v Speaker 5>hundred and thirty. So then you start trying to hit

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<v Speaker 5>it two hundred and thirty yards and it goes further

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<v Speaker 5>into the trees, further left, missing shots, Okay, rather than

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<v Speaker 5>just playing your normal game, play what your your swing

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<v Speaker 5>is it it's your perfect golf swing is what you create,

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<v Speaker 5>not the one that's in Golf Digest or on Golf Channel.

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<v Speaker 5>And you know, this is what the guys on the tour,

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<v Speaker 5>this is the way they hit their drive. You know,

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<v Speaker 5>use your perfect golf swing and play your own game.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that something that you teach is that everyone has

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<v Speaker 2>their own perfect golf swing or you try to recreate

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<v Speaker 2>what you know Rory does.

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<v Speaker 5>No, I absolutely I do not teach everybody a method.

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<v Speaker 5>In other words, this is you come to see me.

435
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<v Speaker 5>You're going to learn to swing the golf club this way.

436
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<v Speaker 5>What I'm going to do is I'm going to see

437
00:20:11.279 --> 00:20:13.519
<v Speaker 5>what you can do physically. You know where you are

438
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<v Speaker 5>in the game, what you want to try to do.

439
00:20:15.480 --> 00:20:19.799
<v Speaker 5>You know what are your goals and can you physically

440
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<v Speaker 5>do some of the things that you read about or

441
00:20:22.400 --> 00:20:25.559
<v Speaker 5>you know you have certain restrictions to your body, the flexibility,

442
00:20:25.640 --> 00:20:28.680
<v Speaker 5>whatever it is. And you know I've played for forty years.

443
00:20:28.720 --> 00:20:30.359
<v Speaker 5>I need to get better. I need to start hooking

444
00:20:30.400 --> 00:20:32.559
<v Speaker 5>my driver rather than fading it. And I'm going to

445
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<v Speaker 5>try to work with that person with what they've got bring.

446
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<v Speaker 5>Bring to me your game, and we'll make your game

447
00:20:38.000 --> 00:20:41.559
<v Speaker 5>better by by looking at where where are you mismanaging

448
00:20:41.599 --> 00:20:44.640
<v Speaker 5>your game? You know, you stand out there and I

449
00:20:44.680 --> 00:20:48.359
<v Speaker 5>can't hit the drivers. Okay, I'm hitting I hit my driver,

450
00:20:48.480 --> 00:20:49.960
<v Speaker 5>you know bad all the time.

451
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<v Speaker 1>Well, if you really analyze their game, their driver may.

452
00:20:52.559 --> 00:20:54.920
<v Speaker 5>Not be that bad, but they just had forty seven

453
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<v Speaker 5>putts in eighteen.

454
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<v Speaker 1>Holes, you know.

455
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<v Speaker 5>So it's not your driver, it's your putting. So you

456
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<v Speaker 5>have to look at your game and analyze your game.

457
00:21:02.480 --> 00:21:04.799
<v Speaker 5>Is that you know I'm horrible from fifty yards in.

458
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<v Speaker 5>It takes me two shots to get it on the green,

459
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<v Speaker 5>and then I can't get it close on the third shot.

460
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<v Speaker 1>So you better start working on your short game.

461
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<v Speaker 2>That That actually is what happened to me and was

462
00:21:13.960 --> 00:21:17.079
<v Speaker 2>a huge made a huge difference in my game once

463
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<v Speaker 2>I started focusing on my short.

464
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<v Speaker 3>Game in and around the green.

465
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<v Speaker 2>Is what is the most common problem that you come

466
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<v Speaker 2>up with? Is it people don't know the distance they

467
00:21:30.279 --> 00:21:33.359
<v Speaker 2>hit each club that they have. They think they're better

468
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<v Speaker 2>than they are. What do you find not what people

469
00:21:37.279 --> 00:21:39.480
<v Speaker 2>ask you like, I want more consistency, I want to

470
00:21:39.559 --> 00:21:41.920
<v Speaker 2>hit the ball farther. What do you find is the

471
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<v Speaker 2>most common amateur mistake that's going on that they don't

472
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<v Speaker 2>recognize their making?

473
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<v Speaker 1>Well, I think you.

474
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<v Speaker 5>Know the first thing you said there was their distance.

475
00:21:52.400 --> 00:21:55.440
<v Speaker 5>I think a lot of people really have a.

476
00:21:57.359 --> 00:22:00.240
<v Speaker 1>Misconception of how far they actually hit the.

477
00:22:00.079 --> 00:22:03.799
<v Speaker 5>Ball and how far you know, they they think the

478
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<v Speaker 5>ball is going when it's really not.

479
00:22:05.559 --> 00:22:07.359
<v Speaker 1>And then they're you know.

480
00:22:07.319 --> 00:22:10.079
<v Speaker 5>They're always coming up short, or they're trying to hit

481
00:22:10.119 --> 00:22:12.759
<v Speaker 5>the ball harder than they need to rather than playing

482
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<v Speaker 5>within themselves. But I think it's a it's a misunderstanding

483
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<v Speaker 5>of their of their true yardages.

484
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<v Speaker 2>How do you get their ego to accept that.

485
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<v Speaker 3>That's the problem.

486
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<v Speaker 5>I think if I'm working with someone consistently, we're going

487
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<v Speaker 5>to take them out on the golf course and put.

488
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<v Speaker 1>Them at a certain yardage.

489
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<v Speaker 5>It's it's sometimes really hard to see that actual yardage

490
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<v Speaker 5>on the driving range, and then well it's a range ball.

491
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<v Speaker 5>It doesn't go as far as my regular ball that

492
00:22:47.640 --> 00:22:49.880
<v Speaker 5>I play, And then it's so I think the answer

493
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<v Speaker 5>to that is actually getting them on the golf course,

494
00:22:52.400 --> 00:22:55.279
<v Speaker 5>putting them at one hundred and thirty yards and having

495
00:22:55.359 --> 00:22:58.079
<v Speaker 5>them hit their nine iron and dump a twenty yards

496
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<v Speaker 5>short in the bunker. Say, okay, so you're nine iron

497
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<v Speaker 5>really goes one hundred and ten.

498
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<v Speaker 3>No, it doesn't.

499
00:23:03.799 --> 00:23:08.279
<v Speaker 1>I really had no I hit it one thirty exactly exactly.

500
00:23:08.640 --> 00:23:09.599
<v Speaker 1>Hit the ball.

501
00:23:10.000 --> 00:23:13.319
<v Speaker 3>I hit it one thirty once exactly.

502
00:23:13.440 --> 00:23:16.599
<v Speaker 5>It's that, Okay, I can't hit it one thirty and

503
00:23:17.000 --> 00:23:17.960
<v Speaker 5>something happened.

504
00:23:18.000 --> 00:23:20.400
<v Speaker 1>But it's you know, that's not you know that. You know,

505
00:23:20.920 --> 00:23:21.400
<v Speaker 1>it's where you.

506
00:23:21.480 --> 00:23:22.759
<v Speaker 5>Hit the ball, where you hit it on the club

507
00:23:22.799 --> 00:23:25.000
<v Speaker 5>face and all that. So you've just got I think

508
00:23:25.000 --> 00:23:30.720
<v Speaker 5>it's just in coaching and teaching, you you've gone to

509
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<v Speaker 5>get that.

510
00:23:32.359 --> 00:23:35.079
<v Speaker 1>Have the student gained the confidence, you know.

511
00:23:35.119 --> 00:23:38.240
<v Speaker 5>In their coach that that I'm there to help and

512
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<v Speaker 5>and and you know, they've just got to accept the

513
00:23:41.599 --> 00:23:46.880
<v Speaker 5>fact that that numbers don't lie, you know, and you

514
00:23:47.000 --> 00:23:48.599
<v Speaker 5>just have to convince them that if you you might

515
00:23:48.640 --> 00:23:50.279
<v Speaker 5>have to take them out two or three times and

516
00:23:50.640 --> 00:23:52.839
<v Speaker 5>show them that, hey, here's now, you can knock this

517
00:23:53.480 --> 00:23:55.480
<v Speaker 5>seven iron from one hundred and thirty yards. You can

518
00:23:55.519 --> 00:23:57.319
<v Speaker 5>knock it on the green, you know, eight out of

519
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<v Speaker 5>nine times.

520
00:23:58.319 --> 00:23:59.880
<v Speaker 1>And you're going to play better from there.

521
00:24:00.079 --> 00:24:02.920
<v Speaker 5>And you know, if they accept it, they accept it

522
00:24:02.920 --> 00:24:04.279
<v Speaker 5>and they go on to play better golf.

523
00:24:04.160 --> 00:24:05.680
<v Speaker 1>And if they don't, they just keep struggling.

524
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<v Speaker 2>This is a great lead in for something that we

525
00:24:08.359 --> 00:24:10.359
<v Speaker 2>talked about in the very beginning. And I do want

526
00:24:10.400 --> 00:24:12.720
<v Speaker 2>to get to it, and that is how to manage

527
00:24:12.880 --> 00:24:16.759
<v Speaker 2>your game on the golf course. And you said, you know,

528
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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure this is just a start. When you put

529
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<v Speaker 2>the ball one hundred and thirty yards out and say,

530
00:24:21.160 --> 00:24:23.799
<v Speaker 2>give give me your best shot. What does it mean

531
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<v Speaker 2>to teach someone to manage the golf course?

532
00:24:30.640 --> 00:24:32.880
<v Speaker 5>I think you have to you, first of all, start

533
00:24:33.400 --> 00:24:36.599
<v Speaker 5>with their game and their shot shape.

534
00:24:36.680 --> 00:24:38.599
<v Speaker 1>What kind of shots do you hit off the tee?

535
00:24:40.319 --> 00:24:42.079
<v Speaker 1>You know, how far do you hit it? And what

536
00:24:42.440 --> 00:24:43.200
<v Speaker 1>first you know?

537
00:24:43.519 --> 00:24:46.519
<v Speaker 5>So once they understand that, okay, I do play my ball.

538
00:24:46.440 --> 00:24:48.079
<v Speaker 1>Left to right, that's what I play.

539
00:24:48.200 --> 00:24:51.680
<v Speaker 5>Okay, then you actually you have to take them on

540
00:24:51.680 --> 00:24:52.279
<v Speaker 5>the golf course.

541
00:24:52.920 --> 00:24:53.319
<v Speaker 1>You can't.

542
00:24:53.319 --> 00:24:55.240
<v Speaker 5>I don't think you can teach that management standing on

543
00:24:55.240 --> 00:24:59.599
<v Speaker 5>the driving range. But then you what I would do

544
00:24:59.680 --> 00:25:02.640
<v Speaker 5>is get that person on the golf course, stand on

545
00:25:02.680 --> 00:25:05.200
<v Speaker 5>the tee and look down the fairway and have.

546
00:25:05.240 --> 00:25:07.519
<v Speaker 1>Them tell me what's out there? What do they see?

547
00:25:07.400 --> 00:25:08.000
<v Speaker 1>What you know?

548
00:25:08.119 --> 00:25:11.759
<v Speaker 5>What's where's the trouble? Where don't you want to go?

549
00:25:12.440 --> 00:25:16.400
<v Speaker 5>And let them tell themselves. They'll convince themselves. They say, well,

550
00:25:16.480 --> 00:25:18.079
<v Speaker 5>geeze the water, it's all water down the.

551
00:25:18.119 --> 00:25:18.599
<v Speaker 1>Right hand side.

552
00:25:18.640 --> 00:25:21.079
<v Speaker 5>I definitely don't want to go there. So you get

553
00:25:21.079 --> 00:25:24.400
<v Speaker 5>them to actually see a picture of the hole and

554
00:25:24.759 --> 00:25:27.519
<v Speaker 5>where's the best place to play that now? And then

555
00:25:27.880 --> 00:25:29.359
<v Speaker 5>start working on club selection.

556
00:25:29.640 --> 00:25:31.519
<v Speaker 1>You know, where's your you know, this is.

557
00:25:31.519 --> 00:25:33.759
<v Speaker 5>A little tight driving hole. What club do you have

558
00:25:33.839 --> 00:25:37.200
<v Speaker 5>the most confidence in? You know, I really like my

559
00:25:37.279 --> 00:25:39.240
<v Speaker 5>seven wood? Okay, so hit your seven with off this

560
00:25:39.279 --> 00:25:41.559
<v Speaker 5>te put it in play, with the next shot in play,

561
00:25:41.599 --> 00:25:43.599
<v Speaker 5>get it inside one hundred yards to the green, and

562
00:25:43.640 --> 00:25:46.519
<v Speaker 5>then get it on the green to walk away with bogie.

563
00:25:47.519 --> 00:25:49.759
<v Speaker 1>You know. So you just I think you have to

564
00:25:49.759 --> 00:25:50.319
<v Speaker 1>show it to.

565
00:25:50.279 --> 00:25:53.359
<v Speaker 5>Them and prove them. Prove to them there's other ways

566
00:25:53.400 --> 00:25:55.480
<v Speaker 5>to play the golf rather than always hitting driver off

567
00:25:55.480 --> 00:25:58.279
<v Speaker 5>of par fours and par fives, and you.

568
00:25:58.240 --> 00:25:59.839
<v Speaker 1>Know, just understand.

569
00:25:59.400 --> 00:26:04.279
<v Speaker 5>How to back off a little bit, play more within themselves.

570
00:26:05.559 --> 00:26:09.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, And then the whole shot shape idea. There's

571
00:26:09.960 --> 00:26:14.039
<v Speaker 2>a natural shot shape that everybody has. But so often

572
00:26:14.079 --> 00:26:18.079
<v Speaker 2>I'll see middle handicappers and I'm talking, you know, fifteen

573
00:26:18.160 --> 00:26:21.240
<v Speaker 2>to what do you consider a middle handicap?

574
00:26:22.759 --> 00:26:24.160
<v Speaker 1>Probably fifteen to twenty two.

575
00:26:24.359 --> 00:26:30.319
<v Speaker 2>We're in there, all right, So somebody who's shooting high eighties, nineties, okay,

576
00:26:30.720 --> 00:26:33.279
<v Speaker 2>and they're out there and I've seen it so many

577
00:26:33.279 --> 00:26:34.960
<v Speaker 2>times it cracks me up. Say, all I need to

578
00:26:35.000 --> 00:26:36.920
<v Speaker 2>do is hit a slight draw here, and all I

579
00:26:37.000 --> 00:26:38.559
<v Speaker 2>need to do is hit it low.

580
00:26:38.599 --> 00:26:39.720
<v Speaker 3>And it's like.

581
00:26:41.160 --> 00:26:43.480
<v Speaker 2>I've admitted to myself, I don't know how to shape

582
00:26:43.480 --> 00:26:44.000
<v Speaker 2>my shots.

583
00:26:44.519 --> 00:26:47.880
<v Speaker 3>I don't know how. I don't have that many tools

584
00:26:47.880 --> 00:26:48.559
<v Speaker 3>in my bag.

585
00:26:49.200 --> 00:26:53.480
<v Speaker 2>If you will, that my ball has just a natural

586
00:26:53.519 --> 00:26:54.079
<v Speaker 2>fade to it.

587
00:26:54.200 --> 00:26:55.599
<v Speaker 3>And I've accepted.

588
00:26:55.079 --> 00:27:01.480
<v Speaker 2>That my irons go farther right, farther right than I

589
00:27:01.640 --> 00:27:05.799
<v Speaker 2>want them to, and I'm working on that. But there's

590
00:27:05.839 --> 00:27:09.160
<v Speaker 2>so many people that these middle handicappers that are talk

591
00:27:09.240 --> 00:27:12.160
<v Speaker 2>about shaping their shots and talk about knowing what they

592
00:27:12.160 --> 00:27:12.680
<v Speaker 2>did wrong.

593
00:27:12.880 --> 00:27:13.559
<v Speaker 3>I lifted my.

594
00:27:13.519 --> 00:27:19.839
<v Speaker 2>Head, but really, yeah again, but it's like you really

595
00:27:20.079 --> 00:27:22.680
<v Speaker 2>should people be trying to shape their shots if they're

596
00:27:22.720 --> 00:27:24.119
<v Speaker 2>not a single digit handicap.

597
00:27:26.720 --> 00:27:27.319
<v Speaker 1>I don't think so.

598
00:27:27.720 --> 00:27:30.880
<v Speaker 5>I mean I think if you're you know, and I'll

599
00:27:31.519 --> 00:27:33.000
<v Speaker 5>if I really feel.

600
00:27:32.759 --> 00:27:36.000
<v Speaker 1>Confident with my students, you.

601
00:27:35.920 --> 00:27:39.119
<v Speaker 5>Know, and they're and they're talking about, you know, shaping

602
00:27:39.160 --> 00:27:41.039
<v Speaker 5>shots and doing this, I said, if you want to.

603
00:27:41.000 --> 00:27:43.599
<v Speaker 1>Do that, you got to get a lower handicap, you know.

604
00:27:43.640 --> 00:27:46.680
<v Speaker 5>So yeah, I think, you know, if if people who

605
00:27:46.680 --> 00:27:53.279
<v Speaker 5>are averaged to higher handicaps, just trust themselves to play.

606
00:27:53.680 --> 00:27:57.440
<v Speaker 5>What again, their perfect golf swing gives them When they're

607
00:27:57.480 --> 00:27:59.680
<v Speaker 5>swinging right, man, it's a little left to right boom

608
00:27:59.720 --> 00:28:01.359
<v Speaker 5>that goes right in the fairway every time.

609
00:28:01.400 --> 00:28:02.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm never out of the fairway.

610
00:28:03.319 --> 00:28:05.480
<v Speaker 5>And you know, they're just going to play so much

611
00:28:05.519 --> 00:28:07.160
<v Speaker 5>better and have so much more fun.

612
00:28:07.519 --> 00:28:09.000
<v Speaker 1>But I think we're in this.

613
00:28:09.240 --> 00:28:11.680
<v Speaker 5>You know, you've got Golf Channel now and you watch

614
00:28:11.799 --> 00:28:14.799
<v Speaker 5>you watch any of the tournaments on TV, and this

615
00:28:14.839 --> 00:28:16.440
<v Speaker 5>whole Okay, he's got to hit it out there right,

616
00:28:16.440 --> 00:28:18.000
<v Speaker 5>he's got to bring it in right to left here,

617
00:28:18.079 --> 00:28:21.759
<v Speaker 5>and they talk about this. So as a human, we're

618
00:28:21.759 --> 00:28:24.519
<v Speaker 5>out there and we're thinking, man, okay, I'm going.

619
00:28:24.440 --> 00:28:25.599
<v Speaker 1>To hook this ball. Well, they don't have.

620
00:28:25.880 --> 00:28:27.079
<v Speaker 5>First of all, they don't know how to hook it.

621
00:28:27.160 --> 00:28:30.160
<v Speaker 5>They don't know how to do that, okay, but they're

622
00:28:30.160 --> 00:28:32.680
<v Speaker 5>trying it on the golf course. So if they want

623
00:28:32.720 --> 00:28:34.440
<v Speaker 5>to start learning how to work the ball, they've got

624
00:28:34.480 --> 00:28:36.720
<v Speaker 5>to do it on the driving range. And most of

625
00:28:36.759 --> 00:28:41.480
<v Speaker 5>the time, no one ever practices shaping shots or trying

626
00:28:41.519 --> 00:28:44.039
<v Speaker 5>to make a ball go right to left, So they

627
00:28:44.119 --> 00:28:46.000
<v Speaker 5>have no idea how to do it, and they don't

628
00:28:46.000 --> 00:28:47.799
<v Speaker 5>know if they can. So then they're trying it on

629
00:28:47.799 --> 00:28:49.599
<v Speaker 5>the golf course and it ends up into a triple

630
00:28:49.599 --> 00:28:51.640
<v Speaker 5>bow gear or quadruple bogue or something like that because

631
00:28:51.640 --> 00:28:53.759
<v Speaker 5>they they got a shot there trying that they've never

632
00:28:53.839 --> 00:28:54.680
<v Speaker 5>hit in their life.

633
00:28:55.359 --> 00:28:57.279
<v Speaker 2>It brings out I'm going to go a little sidetrack here,

634
00:28:57.279 --> 00:28:59.440
<v Speaker 2>because this came up in my round the other day

635
00:28:59.440 --> 00:29:02.559
<v Speaker 2>with a friend of mine and we were talking about, uh,

636
00:29:03.279 --> 00:29:12.400
<v Speaker 2>fade versus slice or a draw versus a hook, right,

637
00:29:12.519 --> 00:29:16.599
<v Speaker 2>I mean so like so a slice is an exaggerated fade.

638
00:29:16.880 --> 00:29:19.680
<v Speaker 3>Correct. Correct, It's a left to right.

639
00:29:20.440 --> 00:29:22.720
<v Speaker 5>It's a left to right shape and usually starts left

640
00:29:22.720 --> 00:29:23.599
<v Speaker 5>of the target ends.

641
00:29:23.519 --> 00:29:24.319
<v Speaker 1>Up right of the target.

642
00:29:24.759 --> 00:29:26.000
<v Speaker 3>Is this is a slice?

643
00:29:26.160 --> 00:29:28.319
<v Speaker 1>That's a slice, Okay? And a fade A fade, A

644
00:29:28.359 --> 00:29:28.880
<v Speaker 1>lot of fade.

645
00:29:28.880 --> 00:29:30.680
<v Speaker 5>A lot of times will be just it's a it's

646
00:29:30.720 --> 00:29:35.279
<v Speaker 5>a a softer curve maybe starting at the target and

647
00:29:35.319 --> 00:29:37.559
<v Speaker 5>then just drifting off to the right.

648
00:29:37.519 --> 00:29:40.559
<v Speaker 2>Okay, and then going that's left to right, now going

649
00:29:40.640 --> 00:29:41.319
<v Speaker 2>right to left.

650
00:29:41.400 --> 00:29:46.119
<v Speaker 5>We have go ahead, you got the you got a hook, okay, hook,

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<v Speaker 5>big big curve right to left. Usually you know, I

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<v Speaker 5>think most hooks kind of start at the.

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<v Speaker 1>Target in a.

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<v Speaker 5>Curve way left or just a slight draw, it's usually

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<v Speaker 5>a little higher shot drops softly down left.

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<v Speaker 1>Of the target.

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<v Speaker 3>And a cut. What's a cut?

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<v Speaker 2>That's that's where this conversation led the other day. We

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<v Speaker 2>were like, that's a cut. Well, I don't know what's

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<v Speaker 2>a cut?

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, A cut is is more it's it's kind of

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<v Speaker 5>an intentional slice where you never release the golf club,

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<v Speaker 5>you hold on really if you're a right hand or

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<v Speaker 5>you hold on really firm with your left and you

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<v Speaker 5>actually try to hit the ball left with a with

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<v Speaker 5>a h swing path that comes across the ball and

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<v Speaker 5>puts dramatic left to right spin on the.

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<v Speaker 3>Ball, and going the opposite way would be called.

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<v Speaker 5>What a pole hook right to left and kind of

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<v Speaker 5>a pole.

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<v Speaker 1>Draw where you're actually but that's an intentionally.

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<v Speaker 5>That's intentional where you're really trying to close the club

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<v Speaker 5>face over the ball, keep it low and get it

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<v Speaker 5>going around a tree left or something like that.

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<v Speaker 3>Is it dangerous for us?

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<v Speaker 2>I watched tournaments on TV and listen to these guys

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<v Speaker 2>because then we walk out going okay, I got.

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<v Speaker 5>It, yeah, because I think the I'll probably get in

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<v Speaker 5>trouble here to tell you, I think they talked too

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<v Speaker 5>much instead of just letting us watch the tournament and uh,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, they're they're just you know. And the one

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<v Speaker 5>I love when the golf tournament tournaments is when he's

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<v Speaker 5>got no chance here to get this up and down.

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<v Speaker 1>He's in the deep rough.

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<v Speaker 5>He's got it here, he's got green sloping away from me,

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<v Speaker 5>water on the other side, and the guy.

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<v Speaker 1>Hits it up two feet Well okay, well, okay.

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<v Speaker 3>Right in my wildest dream.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, But you know, I think most slices, and I

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<v Speaker 5>see this so much for for I'm kind of talking

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<v Speaker 5>right handed player here, but most most slices come when

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<v Speaker 5>the player is trying to hit the ball straight. And

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<v Speaker 5>I guarantee that everybody that's gone down to the range

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<v Speaker 5>to practice, they're trying to hit the ball straight.

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<v Speaker 2>And you should not try to hit the ball straight.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think so. I think it's the hardest shot

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<v Speaker 1>in golf to hit.

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<v Speaker 3>Really.

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<v Speaker 5>If if you if you take okay, just picture and iron,

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<v Speaker 5>you know anything, seven iron, six iron.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, the face is flat, the ball.

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<v Speaker 5>Is round, and if you look at the contact point

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<v Speaker 5>between the ball and the club face, you know there's

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<v Speaker 5>not a lot of.

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<v Speaker 1>Room for error there. So as soon as you start.

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<v Speaker 5>Trying to guide that ball straight, you get tension in

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<v Speaker 5>your hands. You're trying, you're trying to to keep the

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<v Speaker 5>golf club going straight at the target rather than letting

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<v Speaker 5>it release naturally. And if you happen to line it

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<v Speaker 5>up with good timing, the ball goes relatively straight, but

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<v Speaker 5>it's much easier to curve the ball one way or

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<v Speaker 5>the other.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, you know what, we're out of time, So here's

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<v Speaker 2>what I'd like to do. Can you hang around so

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<v Speaker 2>we can have a continue this conversation. We'll do part two. Sure, awesome, absolutely, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>but before you go, please tell me if people want

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<v Speaker 2>to get in touch with you.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you have a website?

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<v Speaker 2>What's the best way If they're living in the South

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<v Speaker 2>Bay of the Bay Area and they want some lessons,

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<v Speaker 2>or if they want to they've enjoyed this conversation, they

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<v Speaker 2>want to travel to meet you and work with you,

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<v Speaker 2>how's the best way to get in touch with you.

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<v Speaker 5>My website is Tom Goood g o D one word

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<v Speaker 5>at the Good Golf Connection dot com.

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<v Speaker 3>That's your email.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm sorry, A right, sorry, and that's my I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 5>that's my email. See huh, San Jose golf lessons.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, wait it's Tom Tom What wait.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm talking way too fast here.

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<v Speaker 3>That's okay, I do that all the time. Okay, not

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<v Speaker 3>a problem.

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<v Speaker 2>So I just gave you my email, okay, that which

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<v Speaker 2>is Tom Good at what.

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<v Speaker 5>The at the Good Golf Connection.

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<v Speaker 2>Good Golf Connection okay dot com dot com.

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<v Speaker 3>That's your email, all right?

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<v Speaker 1>Right?

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<v Speaker 5>Phone number four zero eight four six zero eight zero

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<v Speaker 5>two five.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, good. And do you have a website?

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<v Speaker 1>I I do.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm going to give you it's it's San Jose, San

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<v Speaker 5>hyphen Jose hyphen golf dot all right, I'm sorry, hyphen

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<v Speaker 5>again lessons dot com.

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<v Speaker 3>Should I be interviewing your wife, sir Sam?

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<v Speaker 5>All right?

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<v Speaker 1>I have.

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<v Speaker 5>I have about three three websites, and I never get

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<v Speaker 5>the right one going because you wanted to if you

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<v Speaker 5>wanted to.

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<v Speaker 1>Go to another.

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<v Speaker 2>It was golf MDS dot com slash Tom Good golf

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<v Speaker 2>MDS okay, uh slash.

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<v Speaker 1>Tom Tom golf MDS dot com.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay dot com lash slash Tom Good Okay, slash Tom Good.

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<v Speaker 3>All right.

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<v Speaker 5>That's that's in my calendar and the whole thing and

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<v Speaker 5>some other information on there.

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<v Speaker 3>That's great.

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<v Speaker 2>So I need to ask you more about that when

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<v Speaker 2>we got for our next show. All right, well, thank

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<v Speaker 2>you so much for your time, and I really appreciate

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<v Speaker 2>you agreeing to do part.

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<v Speaker 3>Two of this, and I hope you're enjoying talk to this.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gon enjoin me. Thanks for letting me babble. Mhm