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and eight, or through PROSI utah Athorprosivvieutah dot com. Let's

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talk about the ticket saga. Now, this has been occurring

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over the last two years as BYU has made its

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transition from independence into the Big twelve. With that has

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come I think a higher expectation, a higher scrutiny, more

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eyeballs on BYU than there has ever been before. And

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with that conference a ffiliation, there's more money coming in,

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but there's also a change. Unfortunately BYU fans, what we

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didn't get to really experience was conference affiliation without ANIL

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and transfer portal. I'm sorry, I really am because and

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I feel bad for the athletic department too, because they

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didn't get to experience it from an organizational design standpoint.

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year head start, right for all these other schools with

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TV revenue, really it's probably been about like twenty five

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years of like glory and filthy Luke or just funneling

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into their athletic departments and they would overspend and be

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in the red and they would just build up these

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behemoth stadiums with the extra money. Because remember they weren't

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giving that money to the student athletes. They weren't given

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the twenty million in payroll to the city. It was

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all facilities, it was all infrastructure, it was all organizational design,

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it was all personnel. They would just hoard it all.

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you have football players like starving going over to Little

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Caesars after practice and they don't have any food, so

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they go get a five dollars pizza, you know what

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care after they were done. They started to guarantee scholarship.

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a certain degree that by you didn't get to really

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enjoy the filthy lucer like some of these other organizations have.

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while you got into the Big twelve, what happened NIL

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figuring out creative ways. Yeah you got extra money and

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that's great, but that extra money had to start going

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to whom your payroll players. I mean so like I

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remember talking with Tom Homo about this at Big twelve

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media days like two years ago, and he's like, look,

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care of our student athletes. But you can kind of

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see in his eyes, like, man, it would have been

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kind of nice to have that for like the organizational design,

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maybe upgrading Lavelle, maybe upgrading all these facilities. Right anyway,

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and they will with an eventual upgrade at like level,

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which that's what we're talking about here. But you have

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Speaker 3: The university multi use.

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Speaker 1: It has to be a multi use facility, put some

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concerts in there. It is already a concert facility right

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but in order to probably to convince of the higher

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ups the board of Trustees, it has to be a

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multi use facility. Can't just be a football facility. And

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there's actually virtue in the fact that the Athletic Department

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doesn't own the IPF or the or the or Levell

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Edwards Stadium, because now you can probably access the border

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trustees if they approve of it into some multi use.

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a certain agree that intramurals kicks us out when we

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want to get some extra working. I don't want to

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get too far into but anyway, Matthew Greenley, the reason

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why we're bringing this up, Matthew Greenlow. Green Hall says,

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will any BYU sports media cover what's going on with

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the handling of season tickets. It's big time football and

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b lawyers responding to the market, but it also feels

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like they're abandoning longtime fans. For those that don't know,

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there's a new structure. It's essentially going up to bid

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and it's all merit based on investments. So corporate sponsors

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and individual donors that are Cougar Club members. You know,

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the more they invest in the program, the better tickets

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selection they get. Okay, So and they have put caps

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on that you can't It used to be like we

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can probably buy like fifty tickets with your life. You know,

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it would kind of undermine everybody behind them. And there

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could still be some of that going on. We don't

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this news dropped earlier this year or even late last year.

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season tickets selection process. There's an interest form, there's a

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sleep seat selection process and they go into it right.

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we look ahead to the twenty twenty six home schedule,

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highlighted by a matchup against Notre Dame and a strong

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slate of home opponents, with the demands expected to be high.

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This page outlines what fans, donors, and sponsors can't expect

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as season tickets selection process approaches, including timelines, priority order,

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and how access is determined for high demand game now

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realize on the on the west side, there has been

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like institutional like donors that help build elevate, you know,

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renovate Cougar Stadium to the Lavelle ed Roots Stadium, and

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they had like the only way to circumvent that particular

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institutional clause with their season tickets that is like in

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perpetuity is if there's like a restructuring renovation that qualifies

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to oust them. But at any rate, I think those

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guys are still safe. But there have been people that

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have had tickets for fifteen, twenty, twenty five, thirty years

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and they're being booted because they're not high level Cougar

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Club donors. So Kilane, you know, gave a message we

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have the best fans in the world and I can't

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say enough to thank you season ticket holders for all

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you do. You guys create the amazing atmosphere in Leveelo,

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every stadium each home game, sharing on our team. Let's

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go Coops now. The reason why this message is important

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and Matthew's message is important is just because you're selling

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tickets early to more corporate sponsors and high level donors

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does not mean you're going to fill the stands. Okay,

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that's the cave yacht here.

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Speaker 3: I mean tuck to Nebraska.

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Speaker 4: They have a somewhat like years of a sellout streak

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and they get half Field Stadium, but.

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Speaker 3: They still list sellouts.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, they're listening sellouts.

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Speaker 3: But because they haven't, they have some donors that just

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buy up the tickets.

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Speaker 1: They're buying up the tickets, and those don't always get sold,

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they don't always get trickled down, they don't always get

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handed off. These are busy corporate sponsors. These are busy people.

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if it's not exhilarating, if it's not really this value

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add to them form a business standpoint, then they don't go.

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So that's where you're gonna get into a sticky, sticky

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situation here by ousting the tried and true, loyal, strong

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and true. But essentially the seat selection process, if you

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are a season ticket holder for the twenty and twenty

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five Seaton will automatically be assigned a selection time and

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it will be communicated to you via email. If you

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had held season tickets in twenty twenty even wants to

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join or upgrade your Coogon club membership, you can do so. Online,

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et cetera. If you were not a season ticket holder

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for twenty and twenty five season, but would like to

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be assigned a selection time, fill out the interest form.

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How is my selection time determined your Coup Club or

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corporate partner membership level? So the more you spend, the

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more you invest, the higher the level. Right, and there

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are thresholds the number of priority points you have within

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your membership level. The general public will select after Cougon

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Club and corporate sponsors have selected with their priority points

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their tickets. Now, the problem is, I don't even know

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if it got to the lowest levels of the Cougar

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Club before these things were all sold out. No, they didn't,

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they didn't, Okay, Obviously, The Coup Club is the official

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booster organization for bu Athletics. Your donation helps pay for

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bo athletics expenses, including student athletes, scholarships, recruiting expenses, and

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funding the facilities and programs associated with each of the

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least twenty one athletic teams. The Krup Club is the

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strongest avenue for individuals to earn season ticket selection, priority

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ticket pre sales, and other promotions. If you are interested

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in joining the Coup Club, then you can, you know,

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become a donor, et cetera. So pros and cons of this, Yeah,

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give me your pros and cons of what this situation

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in some of the hullablu that's occurring within Cougar fandom.

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Speaker 3: Well, so it.

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Speaker 4: Makes sense what they're doing, because if you donate a

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lot of money, you should be rewarded for that.

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Speaker 3: Like, there's gotta be some way.

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Speaker 4: There's got to be an ROI, there's got to be

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something that b why you gets back to you. So

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that makes sense. But the problem right now is you're

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losing out. I think there's a potential to lose out

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on future generations of BYU fans because, like, let's let's

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let's break this down a little bit.

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Speaker 3: Not even all of the donors are getting tickets to

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these games.

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Speaker 4: Like there's people donating to the program who can't get

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a ticket to this game. Now there's a ton more

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fans who can't donate but maybe could go to a

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game that aren't getting tickets because they're just they're gone. Yeah,

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fan is the first time you attend to b Whyu

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game and you're in the stadium and you feel the

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magic of level Edwards stadium that creates lifelong fans. Seeing

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on TV's fun being in the stands is what makes

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a fan. And if there's all these kids, let's say

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Speaker 3: You're you're living a normal life.

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Speaker 4: You don't have excess money that can't go to these games.

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Speaker 3: Now, guess where they're going to go.

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Speaker 4: They're going to go to University of Utah football games

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and they're going to become Utah fan.

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Speaker 1: Do you think they're just gonna automatically just go to Utah? Well,

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Speaker 4: I don't think it's automatic, but it's like, hey, I

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have an opportunity to go to a college game. I

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think there's going to be some who go to that

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environment and like it. Like they they do have a

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good game day environment up there, and I don't know

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if it's as good as b Why. You's like, I've

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been to both of the very different environments. But I

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think you're going to lose out on some BYU fans

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in the next generation because the ticket allotment just isn't

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trickling down very well. And I think there should be

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some talk about maybe do we add some seats to

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the stadium. Yeah, I mean you're not gonna be able

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to add seats until you do an entire redesign, right

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and you're you're five to ten years out from that.

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Speaker 3: But I think I don't know how.

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Speaker 1: Quickly you've already filled in the sides with corporate sponsorship deals.

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So like the northeast end zone is a corporate sponsorship place,

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the south west side is byu TV. Okay, I think

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the northeast sorry, the northwest side and the southeast side

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are like standing room only areas, so you could fill

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in some with standing room only. There are more like

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stadiums now that have standing room only and you have

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to go to you're just just stand you're just standing around.

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where you can kind of lean over and watch. It's

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kind of like at the baseball game. You know, you're

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out in like the in the field in the field

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right at a at a spring training game, standing room

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only and there's kind of like bar spots and you

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can go get a drink and kind of just stand

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and walk around. So you can do it that way.

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getting any seats there. And with the standing room only ticket,

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that's kind of intriguing because if your your theory is true, right,

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and the people don't show up, corporate sponsors and donors

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maybe don't show up mid season or if a cold

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night it's rainy, I don't I don't want to go

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get wet, you know, these hoity toities, right. Uh. Then

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the standing room only, it's like, well, they're there, no

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one's sitting in those seats. You go sit in them,

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you go sit down, you know. And it's like the

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security guy at the top of the ey was like, whoa,

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you know, come on, come on, you know, let them

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go sit down there. The donor he can move these

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seats if if they end up showing up in the

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second half whatever. So this is ann issue, yes, but

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I think, as in all things, you have to you

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have to adopt, you have to adopt a new policy

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and see what happens and then react accordingly. And right

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now they're in the mode of monetization. They're in the

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mode of maximizing the dollar, maximizing because look, they have

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a they have potentially twenty million dollars that they have

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to take from their TV revenue money and they have

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to give it to the players. So they're looking to

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fill those gaps in order to continue to stay competitive

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with their payroll. If you can't say out of one

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side of amount, like hey, I want I want cheaper

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tickets and then be but we wouldn't want to pay

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the players. Yeah, right, you can't say that either, and

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you and they do you want to pay Kilania a

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fair wage too? Do you want to pay the coaches

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of fair wage too? Right? Like, there's an element here

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where you are booing up the infrastructure of your players

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and the personnel that are running the program on the daily.

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Speaker 4: Well, here's where I'm coming from, is I think there

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is a solution to the money of Like you said,

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there would have to be some major structural changes to

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Levelbert Stadium if.

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Speaker 3: You're going to add seats.

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Speaker 4: I I agree to that, and that's gonna cost a

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lot of money. But I think, like, in my opinion,

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the way to do that is to make it corporate sponsored.

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Speaker 3: Like like, for.

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Speaker 4: Example, if you have one of your corporate sponsors, it's like, hey,

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if you help us pay for this, we're gonna name

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part of the Stateium, like it's a Levelbert Stadium, but

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it's like it's the section, it's the student the student

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section sponsored by Crumble or whatever, you know, the Crumble.

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Speaker 1: Rock Crumble cookies.

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Speaker 4: Like it's not it's not like it's not sexy, but

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it gets the I think it gets some money in there,

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and I think you get some it's a creative way

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to get some more donations towards that type of thing.

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Speaker 3: I mean, the only.

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Speaker 1: Opportunity here is, in my opinion, is standing room only.

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It's either renovate and renovate soon or standing room only

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for now. You're not gonna elevate, like, they're not gonna

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be able to add seats all of a side. They're

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not gonna be In fact, they were reducing seats. They're

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giving more chair backs, they're giving more high priority seating

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so that you can sit in a little picnic bench

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like a circular bench. Yeah. Like, but that's what I'm saying.

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They're reducing bench seats that were taken up by traditional

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fans at you know, fifty sixty seventy hundred bucks a

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game or whatever it was that they were buying them at.

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Now it's it's more than that, right, but they were

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they were able to afford for the season, maybe at

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most one thousand bucks for the season, right, and now

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those are being whittled down. Fans are getting fatter, Okay,

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they're not getting any skinnier, and they're complaining about leg room,

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and they're complaining about with so with that. Because of that,

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they're reducing seeding and they're putting more chairbacks in there,

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and and so like we you know, we we'd be

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able to fit more people in there if we were

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all a little bit more skinny too. So we got

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to take that for what it's worth. I'm not trying

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to attack anybody. This is not an assault on on

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on on how much adipost tissue everybody has. Okay, I'm

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just saying, like, these are these are real issues. Like

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there's enough feedback being given to the people that to

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the people at EYU saying like, hey, we want more

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comfortable seating, and they have the money, but right they're

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the ones that are investing too. I do think to

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your point, the loyal, strong and true, the individuals that

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are willing to bring their kids at nine o'clock at night,

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you know, even though there's Sunday school tomorrow morning at

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nine am, and they're like, we're doing it because we

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are loyal strying. I know fans that drive up from

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Ice Canyon, baby, and they've been doing it for decades. Yeah,

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and you know what I mean, they're driving four hours

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from the day. They're driving up from Saint George to

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the game every Saturday, and it's an affair. It's a

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family affair. No matter what time the game is it

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kicks off, they're coming. Are they getting priced out because

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of this? Maybe?

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Speaker 3: Probably?

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Speaker 1: Maybe probably. And those are the loyal, strong and true

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that are showing up, not the ones that are like, oh,

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it's sixty degrees out, it's too cold, my fingers are

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gonna be pros. Oh my gosh, No, I have to

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bring in my my, my, my rain boots for the

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I don't want to wear my rain boots. There's they're

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they're uncomfortable, They're uncomfortable. There's a lot of no.

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Speaker 4: But I mean to your point, in order to expand,

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you do need a renovate. But I'm looking at like,

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look at the stadium. It looks it will happen, guys

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that there there renovation.

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Speaker 1: There will be a renovated. It's not gonna happen. I mean,

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I don't.

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Speaker 3: It's not gonna happen in the next five Bro, You're.

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Speaker 1: Gonna have to You're gonna have to completely No, what

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you're gonna have to do, Like, this is what would

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have to happen. So you have intramural fields over there, right,

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So this is what you have to do. You're gonna

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have a parking issue with this if you want to,

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You're gonna have to build a new stadium. And that

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new stadium is going to have to go in where

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they're the parking lot. Parking lot is probably and so

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you're gonna have to be building that stadium and you

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know as a couple of years, Yeah, you're gonna do

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be billing and you're gonna have a parking issue during

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that time.

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Speaker 3: Well I think, look, so it would be what you'd

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have to do.

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Speaker 1: No, this is what you have. This is how you

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sequence it. You build a high rise structure on the

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intramural fields. Okay, where it's a parking that's the first

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thing that goes in. Why you're building, Like you know, this.

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Speaker 3: Is like an I don't even plan to get back

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at the intermural.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying like, and you gotta be kind of

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because I don't know how long it's gonna take to

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build this. Is it gonna take you?

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Speaker 4: I mean it's taken. Kansas has a two year plan. Yeah,

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a brand new, really nice stadium. I honestly think I

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think BYU fans would take two years of a parking

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headache for a nice, bigger stadium.

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Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. It's it's gonna have to be.

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It's gonna be a parking headache while you're building because

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it's gonna probably take two years or so.

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Speaker 4: I mean, the University of Utah has a massive parking

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headache and they make it work every year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, the kid, Yeah, you're parking in the neighborhood.

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Speaker 4: I mean, try to get place, a mess, trying not

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to get towed. Somehow they make it work every year.

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I think, BA, you can make it work for two Yeah.

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Speaker 1: All right, Well we were kind of get into other

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things in this segment, but we went all in on

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on the tickets scandal. Strong word. Oh anyway, but that's

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your world at BOU Sports. How many amongst you I

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asked the question earlier today, how many amongst you in Cougarnation.

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I've been impacted by the season ticket selection process the

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last two years. Please tell me your stories below. David

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Lumberg chimed in ben season ticket older for two plus decades.

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I've had a good run with great memories with the

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reseating arrangements of the rock got put into our seats.

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I'll admit I don't don't donate much to cugar clubs,

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so that pushed me away down the renewal list. I'll

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use the money to go to a road game. Matthew

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green Hog, who you know, went after me or he said,

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you're a good man, crittle for asking this to your followers.

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My parents have had the same season tickets since your

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senior year. Shout out to Matthew and the fan for

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showing up since two thousand and seven. This year, despite

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being Kog club members, when they went to buy tickets,

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they were all sold out. I guess they aren't at

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the right giving level. I mean, it's hard, man. It

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becomes a competitive, competitive process, right, it really does. And

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I feel for them, Like, look, I buy tickets every

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single year or two, so my intern and I do

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it for business, so some of my clients can go

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over there, some of my you know, my friends and

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family members can go there and then my interns right

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here at or sports and so to have a spot

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because we don't we only get a few, uh press passes,

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and we can't like have like five press passes. We're

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not going to do that anyway. So it's a tough situation.

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And uh, I do think it's good to move forward

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and then you may have to retract a little bit

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after you make this very strategic decision that the b

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A eighty has has made.

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Speaker 3: But no, I do like standing room only as a

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short term solution.

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Speaker 4: I think that's a that's a great way to get

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some cheaper tickets out to the fans that love b

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Yu to go to one game a year and and

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let their kids be b Way fans too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, we could just have like now that we

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have drones and like you know, we're flying drones over

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a little bit like your drone. Yeah, you get a

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ticket to fly, you're like flying the drone over your

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covering it just like covering.

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Speaker 3: That would mean insane.

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Speaker 4: Anyway, someone's drone ran out of that it, oh my god,

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fell down to the thirty five yard line.

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to the hotline and welcome in. It looks like from

517
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the pro day and the combine performs the most athletic

518
00:26:54,519 --> 00:26:57,359
long snapper coming out of the two thy and twenty

519
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six draft class. We got former B one you long

520
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:05,119
snapper specialists and a former tight end at American fork By.

521
00:27:05,319 --> 00:27:07,039
He's not just a loxat. He was a tight end

522
00:27:07,079 --> 00:27:09,240
once part of the time. We got Garrison rhymes on

523
00:27:09,319 --> 00:27:10,759
the like Garrison. How the heck are you, buddy?

524
00:27:11,559 --> 00:27:12,400
Speaker 5: I'm good, I'm good.

525
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:15,119
Speaker 1: Thank you for having me on a pleasure of blessing

526
00:27:15,279 --> 00:27:18,359
talking ball with you today. Number one, kudos man. What

527
00:27:18,519 --> 00:27:19,119
a pro day?

528
00:27:19,279 --> 00:27:19,440
Speaker 5: Man?

529
00:27:19,559 --> 00:27:21,960
Speaker 1: I you know the the the number that came down

530
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from b YU on their laser time. I think it

531
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:27,839
was a four five two that they clocked you at.

532
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:32,160
That is blazing fast for a long snapper. How would

533
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:33,759
you evaluate your pro day? Brother?

534
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:37,480
Speaker 5: I think it was good. I mean obviously, you know,

535
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:40,960
I think God's blessed you with the talents to be

536
00:27:41,079 --> 00:27:45,599
able to perform how I did along with you know,

537
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:49,759
my staff at you I uth phenomenal like Skyler Mayne

538
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:55,319
to st all them got me right. But like I said,

539
00:27:55,359 --> 00:28:01,960
I think I think I performed well. Obviously, with the coaches,

540
00:28:02,079 --> 00:28:06,079
the dad and growing up in that environment, it's hard

541
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:10,279
to feel satisfied about everything, but sure, you know I

542
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:11,039
think I did well.

543
00:28:11,799 --> 00:28:14,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, congratulations. A lot of work, a lot of heart,

544
00:28:14,599 --> 00:28:17,759
the blood, sweat and tears, a lot of coaching by dad,

545
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:21,200
a lot of coaching by coaches throughout all this time,

546
00:28:21,279 --> 00:28:24,400
and the culmination to a degree of your collegiate career.

547
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:26,599
Now moving on to the NFL, tell us a little

548
00:28:26,599 --> 00:28:29,880
bit about the offseason. Then once you got done with

549
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:32,359
the season. What a tremendous season. It was a twelve

550
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:35,519
and two year? Was it everything? Real quick? Was it

551
00:28:35,599 --> 00:28:37,759
everything you hoped for when you arrived at BYU? When

552
00:28:37,799 --> 00:28:39,240
you came out of the portal and ended up at

553
00:28:39,279 --> 00:28:41,880
bay You came from Baylor, you had success there, you

554
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:45,079
had a great experience. But was BYU everything that you

555
00:28:45,119 --> 00:28:47,640
would hoped it would be in that one year?

556
00:28:49,039 --> 00:28:51,559
Speaker 5: Yeah, No, it was. It was awesome, truly a blessing,

557
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:55,160
kind of a homecoming, you know, like you said, went

558
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:58,160
to high school year seven or eight of my high

559
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:01,319
school teammates were on the team. I knew coach Kilani

560
00:29:01,519 --> 00:29:04,279
and a lot of the other coaches from when my

561
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:08,680
dad was here, So it's super easy transition. And then

562
00:29:08,759 --> 00:29:12,440
obviously having a very successful football year two makes it

563
00:29:12,519 --> 00:29:14,799
all worth it too, And it's just such a fun

564
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:17,079
thing to be a part of. But you could be

565
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:19,400
down you know how many points at halftime and not

566
00:29:19,599 --> 00:29:22,480
doubt that you're gonna win. Those are the fun seasons.

567
00:29:22,599 --> 00:29:27,400
So yeah, it was truly a blessing, great staff, awesome environment.

568
00:29:28,079 --> 00:29:29,359
So yeah, it was. It was great.

569
00:29:30,279 --> 00:29:34,039
Speaker 1: Well, we're grateful that you're a part of a monumental season.

570
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:36,640
Tell us what happened at the end of the season,

571
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:38,599
what did you where did you go, Where did you

572
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:41,319
start training, What were the goals, how did you need

573
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:42,480
to improve, et cetera.

574
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:50,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, obviously, for a specialists it's very different than a

575
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:53,599
you know, say a skill position. They can go to

576
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:56,960
one place and kind of get all the training they

577
00:29:57,039 --> 00:30:02,200
need there for me, and and you know, a specialist position,

578
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:07,119
there's so many different coaches that have little things that

579
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:11,839
you can take back with you. So I would travel

580
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:16,839
a lot. I went to Arizona for a showcase type

581
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:20,160
thing and then that was with coach Donner, and then

582
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:25,480
I flew to Orlando and had a showcase there, and

583
00:30:25,559 --> 00:30:29,960
then I went to Frisco for the East West game

584
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:34,119
and that was cool experience. I was there nine days.

585
00:30:34,559 --> 00:30:35,119
Speaker 1: And then.

586
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Speaker 5: I also had a coach that lived in Frisco that

587
00:30:39,119 --> 00:30:41,920
I went and saw a few times, and then obviously

588
00:30:42,559 --> 00:30:47,079
trained for combine up after that, and then came back

589
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and got ready.

590
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Speaker 1: For probeck so pretty quick. I mean it goes by fast.

591
00:30:53,039 --> 00:30:54,319
But did you feel like you made a lot of

592
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:57,160
progress in that time? Did you learn a little bit

593
00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:59,519
more about yourself? Did you refine your skill set?

594
00:31:01,039 --> 00:31:04,480
Speaker 5: I did? I mean, obviously, you know, coming for a

595
00:31:04,599 --> 00:31:08,839
long snapper, I don't think that any you know, rookie

596
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:11,880
will be fully prepared for what the next level brings.

597
00:31:12,079 --> 00:31:17,119
Just it's so different schematically wise. But I think I

598
00:31:17,279 --> 00:31:19,720
learned a lot and I've prepared as much as I

599
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:21,079
can up to.

600
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Speaker 1: This point.

601
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:26,839
Speaker 5: For what's to come. But yeah, I definitely learned a lot.

602
00:31:27,279 --> 00:31:30,519
It's more more than what I thought it was, for sure.

603
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:34,960
But it's it's been a good process. I've really enjoyed it.

604
00:31:35,599 --> 00:31:37,680
And uh, yeah, it's been good.

605
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:41,039
Speaker 1: Who did you end up going with your agent? And why?

606
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:45,039
And are there like specialist agents out there that are

607
00:31:45,519 --> 00:31:49,599
are like really good at at placing getting guys drafted,

608
00:31:49,839 --> 00:31:53,119
finding undrafted free agent best spots out there in the

609
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:55,680
agency world for sure.

610
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:57,960
Speaker 5: Yeah. So the agent I went with, his name is

611
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:02,039
Brits Henderson. Him and his dad have a family business

612
00:32:02,079 --> 00:32:05,799
it's called ISA, But him and Don Henderson they used

613
00:32:05,839 --> 00:32:10,039
to represent kind of the the big names like Patrick

614
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:14,559
Manneley and some of these other big snapper names. But

615
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:16,559
one of the biggest things that stuck out to me

616
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:19,440
with him is there's a lot of agents that will

617
00:32:19,519 --> 00:32:22,480
try to make you kind of verbally commit during season

618
00:32:22,599 --> 00:32:26,720
and stuff, and you're not technically allowed to do that,

619
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:30,519
but everybody kind of does it. And you know, Brooks

620
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:34,079
was like, that's not how we roll, Like, I'm not gonna,

621
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:36,759
you know, twist the rules at all. We're gonna keep

622
00:32:36,799 --> 00:32:38,960
it professional. And he was just very honest through the

623
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:42,920
whole process, which is what kind of drew him to me.

624
00:32:44,119 --> 00:32:47,680
And then I mean, yeah, the thing with snappers and

625
00:32:47,759 --> 00:32:51,599
getting drafted, you know, there might be one every five

626
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:57,160
to ten years that gets drafted, but it's very rare. Obviously,

627
00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:00,480
you know that's the goal, but I also have realistic

628
00:33:00,599 --> 00:33:05,079
expectations and just want to find the best situation for

629
00:33:05,279 --> 00:33:08,880
me and where I'll be able to succeed at I.

630
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 1: Mean, what's the landscape light right now for long snappers?

631
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:15,680
I mean, you got one long snapper on every single

632
00:33:15,759 --> 00:33:20,119
team in the NFL. Is anyone getting old, is anyone

633
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:22,160
injured right now? I mean, we're going to be able

634
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:23,039
to compete right.

635
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, so it's a relatively good year for snappers. The

636
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:31,079
thing is is, you know, you can be a snapper

637
00:33:31,119 --> 00:33:33,000
and you can kind of get onto a team and

638
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:37,160
rot there. Like we had one of the guys that

639
00:33:37,359 --> 00:33:40,759
I look up to. He played at Baylor actually, and

640
00:33:41,079 --> 00:33:44,319
his name is John Weeks. He played for the Texan

641
00:33:44,599 --> 00:33:49,039
for the last fifteen seasons and he was on the

642
00:33:49,119 --> 00:33:52,240
forty nine ers this last year and just signed another

643
00:33:52,359 --> 00:33:55,200
year extension. So you know, you can be in the

644
00:33:55,279 --> 00:33:59,319
league for however long your body allows it, if you're

645
00:33:59,319 --> 00:34:03,559
able to do the job at a high level. But

646
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:06,240
that definitely makes it more difficult to get in. Right,

647
00:34:06,319 --> 00:34:09,159
there's only thirty two in the world, and there's not

648
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:12,719
any snappers that are on the practice squad, so they're

649
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:17,079
truly only is one guy per team. So you know,

650
00:34:17,199 --> 00:34:19,760
wherever I go, obviously I'm going to be competing, whether

651
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:22,960
it's a team bringing in two young guys and I'm

652
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:27,119
competing against another rookie, or if it's a team that

653
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:31,880
just signed a you know, a vet, but they're looking

654
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:35,360
to maybe go younger if the rookie is able to

655
00:34:35,559 --> 00:34:38,280
perform at a high level. So you know, wherever I go,

656
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:40,280
I'm just getting in the mic right or the right

657
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:45,519
mindset to compete. But I'd say it's really there's you know,

658
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:50,199
probably five teams or six teams that will bring on

659
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:53,920
a new snapper, but I'd say by the end of

660
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:57,440
cuts and end of preseason, there'd only be one or

661
00:34:57,519 --> 00:35:00,639
two teams that you know, kept that rookie is their die.

662
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:05,400
So yeah, yeah, yeah, it's tough, tough things to get into.

663
00:35:05,639 --> 00:35:09,000
But you know, like I said, I feel like God

664
00:35:09,079 --> 00:35:10,920
blessing with the talents to be able to do at

665
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:13,760
the next level. So yeah, we'll see.

666
00:35:14,639 --> 00:35:17,639
Speaker 1: It's funny you bring up Josh John Weeks. You said

667
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:21,840
John Weeks, right, Yeah, yeah, he So I went to

668
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:25,199
high school with John. I graduated at oh one, yeah,

669
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:27,639
Mountain Ridge, and I think he was because he was

670
00:35:27,679 --> 00:35:30,119
a four year later. He trying to think, Well, Richie

671
00:35:30,119 --> 00:35:34,280
and Cognito was my long snapper I think my junior year,

672
00:35:35,039 --> 00:35:37,840
and then I think Weeks was my long snapper my

673
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:39,599
senior year when he came in as a true freshman.

674
00:35:39,599 --> 00:35:43,079
Because Richie and John were both coached up by Ben Bernard.

675
00:35:43,159 --> 00:35:45,159
He's like a long snapping guru. He was our strengthen

676
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:47,360
editioning coach and long snapper. I don't know if you've

677
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:50,079
heard that name, Ben Bernard, but he was the coach

678
00:35:50,199 --> 00:35:53,880
for He was like specialty and in long snapping. So

679
00:35:54,199 --> 00:35:56,480
I had forgotten that John had actually attended Baylor as

680
00:35:56,519 --> 00:35:59,320
a walk on and then balled out. Obviously been to

681
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:02,119
the league forever. I mean, it's insane.

682
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:05,599
Speaker 5: He's seventeenth years.

683
00:36:05,679 --> 00:36:11,360
Speaker 1: So it is a sort I think a former BYUH,

684
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:15,199
a former BYU long snapper and defense end John Denny

685
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:17,880
with with with the Miami Dolphins.

686
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:19,159
Speaker 5: For like eighteen years.

687
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:22,760
Speaker 1: Like it's crazy, Like how do you unseat these guys?

688
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:23,400
You know what I mean?

689
00:36:24,519 --> 00:36:28,800
Speaker 5: I know it's crazy. You you gotta be able to

690
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:32,280
do everything they want you to do, and if you

691
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:35,039
can do that as a rookie, then then they'll take you.

692
00:36:35,159 --> 00:36:37,960
But yeah, it's a crazy process.

693
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:40,360
Speaker 1: Well, with that being said, it's like are you going

694
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:42,239
to continue? Like, hey, are you going to continue to

695
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:45,079
long snap? Two three years to say, say, like NFL

696
00:36:45,119 --> 00:36:47,480
doesn't work out this year? Do you keep long snapping

697
00:36:47,559 --> 00:36:50,079
while you're kind of making money doing other things? Right?

698
00:36:50,199 --> 00:36:53,039
And because I remember Matt Hayward, he was another one

699
00:36:53,079 --> 00:36:56,559
of our long snappers. It was maybe it was him

700
00:36:56,599 --> 00:36:59,239
and Richie Matt Hayward ended up at Glendier Community College

701
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:02,920
after he graduate waited from Mount Ridge and then after

702
00:37:03,039 --> 00:37:06,079
one year went to USC and won like two national

703
00:37:06,199 --> 00:37:09,559
championships with USC as a long snapper, and then he

704
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:11,639
was I remember working out with him when he'd come

705
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:16,039
home in Glendale and he was still trying out for

706
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:18,400
an additional two years before He's like, all right now,

707
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:21,039
I'm just gonna move on, So what's the game plan there?

708
00:37:22,639 --> 00:37:27,599
Speaker 5: Yeah, I've I've thought about that. A guy that I

709
00:37:27,679 --> 00:37:31,000
was able to connect with this this postseason. His name

710
00:37:31,039 --> 00:37:36,920
is Zach Triner. He actually did not he played lacrosse

711
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:39,599
in college and kind of knew how to snap, and

712
00:37:39,679 --> 00:37:44,360
then after college he spent four years training but then

713
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:47,280
it get on a team and then he just finished

714
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:50,599
his seventy year snapping in the NFL and he just

715
00:37:50,679 --> 00:37:54,760
signed with the Dolphins just a couple of days ago.

716
00:37:55,039 --> 00:37:58,440
So that's kind of the thing that I'm you know,

717
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:01,199
I'm trying to decide. I say that it'll come down to,

718
00:38:01,639 --> 00:38:04,320
you know, the time being and what I what I

719
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:09,760
feel like they're But like I said, you know, I

720
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:13,840
know that I'd be able to do it, So I

721
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:17,360
think at least you know, one or two years if

722
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:21,960
it doesn't work. But in the moment, you know, I'll

723
00:38:22,039 --> 00:38:24,559
just be praying for God's direction and see what I

724
00:38:24,639 --> 00:38:29,360
feel like his plan is. But yeah, i'd say a

725
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:30,480
couple of years for sure.

726
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:35,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, And you know, in those couple of years, like

727
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:40,679
would you like, what is the mindset of maybe the

728
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:44,760
alternate leagues out there, like the UFL or the Canadian League, Like,

729
00:38:45,079 --> 00:38:48,320
are those viable options for you to be putting out

730
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:51,039
film and showcasing talent?

731
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:54,039
Speaker 3: Does the NFL? Do you know if the NFL notices those,

732
00:38:54,199 --> 00:38:56,159
if they if that's a viable way.

733
00:38:56,039 --> 00:38:56,400
Speaker 1: To do that.

734
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:04,119
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it's definitely possible. I haven't heard of

735
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:07,440
a lot of those situations, you know, the guy going

736
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:09,519
to the UFL or XFL then he gets called up.

737
00:39:10,559 --> 00:39:13,559
I know it does happen, and I'm not super ind

738
00:39:13,599 --> 00:39:16,960
to know with all of that, but I think it

739
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:19,280
would just come down to my situation, what I'm doing

740
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:22,280
for a job at the time, and because the thing

741
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:25,440
with you know, NFL is you've got to stay ready

742
00:39:25,519 --> 00:39:29,559
to like if say I get a couple of workouts

743
00:39:29,679 --> 00:39:32,039
and teams like me, but they want to keep their

744
00:39:32,199 --> 00:39:35,679
vet that they have you know, he may get hurt

745
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:37,480
week four and then they call me and I got

746
00:39:37,599 --> 00:39:40,559
to be ready to go in that week. So that's

747
00:39:40,639 --> 00:39:43,480
kind of the mindset I would have during that time.

748
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:48,199
But again, you know, playing football is playing football. You know,

749
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:51,760
I love the game. So if that opportunity arose and

750
00:39:52,119 --> 00:39:53,519
I feel like that's what I was supposed to do,

751
00:39:53,639 --> 00:39:54,400
then I do it.

752
00:39:55,639 --> 00:39:59,639
Speaker 1: Garrison Grimes b Yu, former BLU long snapper, talking some

753
00:40:00,159 --> 00:40:04,320
Cougar Football NFL Cougar's in the pro segment brought to

754
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you by Dental pros of Utah dentalprosof Utah dot com.

755
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:11,639
You went to the East West Shrine Bowl, you went

756
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:15,599
to the Combine, You've done your pro day. You know,

757
00:40:16,079 --> 00:40:18,840
how cool of an experience has it been. How enriching

758
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:20,719
of an experience has it been? To be at the

759
00:40:21,119 --> 00:40:24,559
the you know, the Senior Bowl, Combine, pro Da. I

760
00:40:24,639 --> 00:40:30,599
mean these are all fun spectacles, like competitive environments. There's

761
00:40:30,599 --> 00:40:33,760
a lot of enrichment and a lot of just quartersoll

762
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:39,119
levels as well. Man, it's stressful, it is, and you know.

763
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:43,519
Speaker 5: To be honest, I haven't really dealt with stress kind

764
00:40:43,559 --> 00:40:46,639
of like I have this offseason. You know, I feel

765
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:49,960
like it's easier to snap in front of you know,

766
00:40:50,199 --> 00:40:54,079
sixty thousand fans, one hundred thousand fans than it is,

767
00:40:54,639 --> 00:40:57,800
you know, with thirty two NFL teams watching every snap

768
00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:02,440
taking notes on them. So it was definitely stressful, but

769
00:41:02,559 --> 00:41:06,199
also like good stress, you know, like to be able

770
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:09,760
to say I'm stressed because the NFL teams are watching me,

771
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:12,079
like that's such a blessing at the end of the day.

772
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:15,480
And that's something that my mom and dad have been

773
00:41:15,519 --> 00:41:19,760
able to keep me grounded during. It's just how much

774
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:22,519
of a blessing it is, and being grateful for every opportunity,

775
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:27,119
and you know, my dad being a coach. I love competing,

776
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:31,360
so whether it's at these showcases or the combine or

777
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:34,320
Pro Day, whatever, it is, like, I'm gonna go out

778
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:36,840
there and compete and have fun. And that's that's kind

779
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:38,199
of what it's come down to at the end of

780
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:41,639
the day for most of these experiences. But now it's

781
00:41:41,679 --> 00:41:44,800
been really fun just seeing like the best of the best,

782
00:41:45,079 --> 00:41:49,280
like the East West game, seeing a couple of my

783
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:52,679
old teammates that were there, and seeing guys against you know,

784
00:41:53,639 --> 00:41:56,760
other teams that I've played against, all their best players

785
00:41:56,840 --> 00:42:00,440
out there, and then watching them play a game, so cool,

786
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:03,920
and then same at the combine too, So definitely blessing

787
00:42:04,039 --> 00:42:05,599
to be a part of all of them. Kind of

788
00:42:05,639 --> 00:42:11,840
surreal too, like my younger self wouldn't. I don't know

789
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:16,079
how surprised he would be. That sounds super bustful. I

790
00:42:16,079 --> 00:42:18,840
don't mean to sound buissful, but obviously that's been my

791
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:21,480
goal as a kid growing up.

792
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:22,320
Speaker 1: But it is.

793
00:42:22,599 --> 00:42:24,679
Speaker 5: It is very surreal. It's cool.

794
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:28,719
Speaker 1: Many blessings to you and your fam. Yeah, what what feedback?

795
00:42:29,119 --> 00:42:33,840
What comments? What coaching? His h his grimy Papa grimey

796
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:35,280
giving you through this process.

797
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:42,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, obviously technique wise, he was, in my opinion,

798
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:45,760
you know, the best the line coach there was there

799
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:51,760
is and now he's offensive coordinator. But he is able

800
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:54,960
to give me some blocking advice because that's the biggest

801
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:57,239
thing going to the next level is are you able

802
00:42:57,320 --> 00:42:59,119
to snap the ball and then get your head up

803
00:42:59,199 --> 00:43:02,840
click and block a you know, starting NFL linebacker that's

804
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:05,039
going to be coming through the A gaps, twisting, whatever

805
00:43:05,119 --> 00:43:08,440
it may be. So having him there is just like

806
00:43:08,599 --> 00:43:10,639
a safety net of like, hey, if there's something that

807
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:14,280
I don't understand, I have a resource easily available right.

808
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:18,159
And but I'd say outside of that, the biggest thing

809
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:22,159
is just mentally and spiritually him being that leader for

810
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:26,000
me because he's had you know, he's at Wisconsin this

811
00:43:26,159 --> 00:43:28,159
last year, in Kansas year before, and he's had some

812
00:43:29,159 --> 00:43:32,519
a couple of tough seasons back to back, but you know,

813
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:36,000
his attitude hasn't really changed. She's still grateful for all

814
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:39,280
the situations he's in and that's just because of his faith.

815
00:43:39,559 --> 00:43:42,559
And that's something that's been able to keep me grounded

816
00:43:42,679 --> 00:43:45,639
during this time of like, hey, you know, if it

817
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:49,440
doesn't work out, that's okay, That's what God's plan is,

818
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:52,639
which kind of takes some of the pressure off and

819
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:54,840
then at that point you're able to perform better. So

820
00:43:55,559 --> 00:43:58,840
it's been great having him in my corner this whole time.

821
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:01,519
And you know, like I said, it's it's truly a lesson.

822
00:44:02,199 --> 00:44:05,159
Speaker 1: What was your favorite experience while you're at b YU

823
00:44:05,599 --> 00:44:08,960
right this year? Like when you ponder on the enriching

824
00:44:09,079 --> 00:44:12,639
experiences you had in Provo and playing for BYU, what

825
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:14,639
are you gonna recall when you, you know, take a

826
00:44:15,199 --> 00:44:18,480
take a glass back and revere those times.

827
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:25,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think most b YU fans would agree with this,

828
00:44:25,639 --> 00:44:28,840
but my dad was here and I think two thousand

829
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:31,480
and five, and I was just a young kid at

830
00:44:31,519 --> 00:44:34,119
that time, and we always called, you know, Utah the

831
00:44:34,519 --> 00:44:37,079
Stinky Utes when I was a kid, so from a

832
00:44:37,159 --> 00:44:40,400
young age, from a young age, I didn't really like him.

833
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:46,239
And then coming back and you know, having that huge

834
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:51,159
rivalry game at home in Provo that you know, I

835
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:53,159
was a part of being able to win that game

836
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:56,559
like that was that was really special. And by our

837
00:44:56,719 --> 00:45:00,760
unit and our team, we're so close and and you know,

838
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:03,360
the brotherhood that we have. Everybody talks about it, but

839
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:05,639
it is truly different here at BYU and it was

840
00:45:05,679 --> 00:45:07,840
so fun to be a part of. And I think

841
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:11,559
that game, you know, it's hard. It's hard to beat

842
00:45:11,599 --> 00:45:14,280
that game. Like obviously there's other games that are fun,

843
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:16,039
you know, the close ones at the end. The pop

844
00:45:16,119 --> 00:45:19,480
Tard Bowl was so fun, but Utah game is probably

845
00:45:19,559 --> 00:45:20,079
my favorite.

846
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:25,599
Speaker 1: Such a great game. Fantastic memories, fantastic time. What is

847
00:45:25,639 --> 00:45:28,119
it like when you're if you're going to pitch these

848
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:32,039
recruits during this process? Obviously you got pitched, You got

849
00:45:32,079 --> 00:45:34,440
recruited to a number of schools. You ended up a Baylor.

850
00:45:34,519 --> 00:45:38,079
What a great school that was educational wise, spiritually, et cetera.

851
00:45:38,519 --> 00:45:41,000
And in football wise, you know, what's the pitch to

852
00:45:41,079 --> 00:45:44,639
come to BYU? Would you say, what's like the marketing

853
00:45:44,679 --> 00:45:47,079
pitch of these recruits that are evaluating b YU over

854
00:45:47,199 --> 00:45:48,920
other power for institutions.

855
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:53,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that. You know, a lot of young

856
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:57,000
guys coming out of high score motivat are motivated by

857
00:45:57,079 --> 00:46:00,880
the money aspect of it, especially now you know nil's

858
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:04,039
kind of out of control and it's just everybody's trying

859
00:46:04,039 --> 00:46:06,760
to get their bag, everybody's trying to get paid. But

860
00:46:07,679 --> 00:46:10,079
you know, the money can only motivate you so much.

861
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:13,079
Like as soon as you get into off season training

862
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:15,960
and you get in the fourth quarter drills and everything,

863
00:46:16,079 --> 00:46:19,480
you know you're going through the heat of it. That

864
00:46:19,639 --> 00:46:22,320
money kind of stakes your mind, right, Like you have

865
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:25,559
to really you have to really love the game, love

866
00:46:25,599 --> 00:46:28,679
where you're at, and love the coaches that are coaching you.

867
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:31,800
And I think that's a big thing. Like there's nowhere

868
00:46:32,199 --> 00:46:34,800
that's more beautiful than here in Provo. I mean, the

869
00:46:35,039 --> 00:46:37,920
stadium's right against the mountains. There's a ton of stuff

870
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:41,199
to do here, it's very you know, family friendly, it's safe.

871
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:44,800
And then the staff who is phenomenal, Like, you're not

872
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:49,000
going to find a head coach that's more brought into

873
00:46:50,119 --> 00:46:54,079
football in the relationships than Torontie Stockey. Like he's truly

874
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:58,119
one of a kind and his fit here is so

875
00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:00,440
perfect a BYU and I think that's why it's so

876
00:47:00,599 --> 00:47:03,960
successful is because the players love him and he loves

877
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:06,000
the players. That's that's kind of what it comes down

878
00:47:06,039 --> 00:47:10,079
to at the end of the day. And obviously the

879
00:47:10,119 --> 00:47:13,480
football part of it, right, Like you can have all

880
00:47:13,559 --> 00:47:18,880
that other stuff, but you know, the science behind why

881
00:47:19,039 --> 00:47:21,840
we do what we do in the lifting world, and

882
00:47:23,199 --> 00:47:28,119
obviously the positional coaches, all of that feeds into having

883
00:47:28,159 --> 00:47:31,920
a successful football program. And I think the you know

884
00:47:32,079 --> 00:47:34,719
by us on their way to creating a dynasty right now.

885
00:47:35,599 --> 00:47:38,880
And I think that you know, stems from Kalamus Stocky.

886
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:42,000
So I think that that's that would be my pitch, Tom.

887
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:45,119
Speaker 1: I think it's a great pitch. I think it's on point,

888
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:50,519
and it comes from a very valid, incredible source, very

889
00:47:50,639 --> 00:47:54,960
articulate one at Dad Garrison Grimes. Great catching up with you, man,

890
00:47:55,119 --> 00:47:58,360
I'll be watching you. Congratulations on all of your success

891
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:00,440
up to this point. I think there's a place for

892
00:48:00,519 --> 00:48:02,519
you in the NFL. And I think that that top

893
00:48:02,639 --> 00:48:05,519
end speed. I mean, you're already a great long snapper.

894
00:48:05,599 --> 00:48:07,480
Obviously you're gonna have to get off blocks, et cetera

895
00:48:07,559 --> 00:48:09,239
and weave your way downfield. I think that top in

896
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:12,800
speed is gonna help and and probably improve your draft stock,

897
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:16,280
your undrafted free agent stock, uh in this process. So

898
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:20,039
congratulations all your success man. Uh and uh you know,

899
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:24,400
grateful that you got to rep the Y your senior year.

900
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:25,880
We wish you could have had you could have been

901
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:29,079
here for four or five years though. All right, you

902
00:48:29,159 --> 00:48:30,840
know we lost out on you for a few years.

903
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:32,840
But he was great having me here in provo. Brother.

904
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:36,960
Speaker 5: Yea, sir, thank youat catching up Garrison sale over to

905
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:37,639
your pots for me.

906
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:40,239
Speaker 1: Always love and appreciate him. All right, man, have a

907
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great rest of your day. Man, thanks for hopping on.

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to the Wu Tang Clan Extravaganza at Utah First Credit

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Union Amphitheater September twenty ninth. That's right, September twenty ninth.

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Don't miss your chance to see the hip hop legends

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take this stage. Even if you're not a Wu Tang

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clan fan, you may like them and you don't even

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know it. Okay, you maybe have an experience